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back to the Peking Yona's show. I met him and

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he was calling himself all but Durandala is here with me, Harriet, Dad,

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I'm good staring you doing good, doing good. We recently

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we recently hung out in Portland, well not in Portland,

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in Portland, I mean, we did spend some time in

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Portland and it wasn't it wasn't what people said it

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is that was that was nice. And but you spoke

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at it at an event I was at recently, and

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then we had a chance to talk a little bit

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at the after party. I wanted to invite you on

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to talk about the subject of your your talk and

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a little bit about what we talked about privately. But

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before we do that, you give yourself an introduction, anything

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you want to share with people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure. First of all, Pete, it's an honor to

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be here. You know, I've listened to you for years.

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I've tried to get away from YouTube, so it's been

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a little bit less, but honestly, it's it's great to

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have the opportunity to chat.

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm an Orgonia native, you know. It's it's a state.

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I've you know, lived here for much of my life.

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I love it. I feel a very deep connect into it.

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college in a couple of different states, bounced around and

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of degrees that are you know, just worthless, of course,

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and now I work in an industry where I don't

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use those degrees at all. And you know, as I've

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kind of built my career, I've become very passionate about

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just building local communities. I've seen that, you know, the

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meme that you can just do things is a very

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real thing, and I've witnessed it in my own life

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and in my own community. And so I hope that

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tonight we have the opportunity to kind of encourage other

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guys to do the same.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole you can just do things. I think

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people relied too much upon politics. I want to apply

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that to politics, but really, when it comes down to it,

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in your life, you really can just do things if

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you're relying on somebody else for employment, you know, you're

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stating the obvious, but you know I can't. I don't

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corporatized environment that we live in is really unusual in

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historic record, and so I do think that this is

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the stock market and they're like, Okay, well, if the

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stock market's doing well, then the economy is doing well.

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skillless millennial, you know from crayleedn till now. I wasn't

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collar skills and was kind of making things in his youth.

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how to do basic things like fixing their cars or

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talk about lament they sound like tropes, but it's it's real,

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and it reflects the state of the economy where nobody

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knows how to do anything anymore. And one of the

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don't know how we maintain any of these things at all.

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you know, there have been no stories in the news

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about like the Koreans that they've been using to quote

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unquote you know, train people, but you know, they're just

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there to stay permanently. And I think that that's a serious,

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serious issue. And the other thing I want to bring

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threatened by this AI revolution simply with you know, because

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I use my mind for most of my work. You know, granted,

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I do a lot of investing in other things, but

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my i'm career I think could at some point in

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the future be replaced. Whether that's now or in ten years,

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I definitely think that that's there. And so I started

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working alongside my contractors trying to learn some of the

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more physical skills part, you know, just as a kind

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of a safeguard. I mean, not I also want to

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learn and know and be able to work alongside my guys.

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trying to shore up and hedge my bets and kind

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of move into more physical space. Kind of an interesting transition,

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kind of the opposite of where everything's been flowing for

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the last eighty years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of crazy that we've gotten to the

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point where it was like, well, figure out a side hustle. Well,

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you know, if you'll work from home, that's probably best.

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Well figure out something to do. That's AI proof.

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Speaker 2: You know that the truth is. I don't think. I

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don't think there's anything that he is a I prove

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ultimately now I'm no tech guy. I have one of

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my best friends as a very high quality eye programmer,

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so a lot of what I get is from him.

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year that the world is going to completely change. I mean,

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a lot of people are talking about twenty twenty seven

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as a big year and as a milestone, And I

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don't know the truth of the matter, to be honest, Pete,

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it's really hard to discern. But it's hard to know

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if we've been completely light to about you know, where

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to go and what to do, or if it's just

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kind of the flow of information people trying to adjust

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to these changes that are happening so rapidly that nobody

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can keep up. It's hard to know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've heard the accusations that the a lot

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of companies are just wanting to cut jobs, so they're

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using AI as an excuse. So yeah, yeah, I do.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, you read all these articles about oh,

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you know these companies they feel like they made a

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big mistake and letting people go to early and so

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they try and beg for their people to come back,

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and you know, just like everything else. And we can

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talk about this in a bit. This is why I

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understand the truth when there's just so much information out

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there that's conflicting, and I'm just not there. I'm not involved.

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I don't know people in the industries that are, you know,

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involved in these hiring and firing practices. For all I know,

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none of this is actually happening, you know.

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Speaker 1: So what you talked about at the at the event

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had a lot to do with your own form of patronage.

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And that's you know, that's something like like the whole

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Good Old If you ever listened to the Good Old

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Boys podcast, Yeah, it's like the whole thing is about patronage.

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I mean, that's their thing. And I think that people

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a lot of people try to figure out, well, you know,

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how can I help? So, you know, what, what have

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you found, uh in some ways that you can help

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our you know, our guys or you know, even your community. Yeah, well, yeah, it's.

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to address it briefly in my speech and then again

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what I have to say isn't universal, Like some things

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are going to be more specific to some people, and

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life recently, you know, the one that I brought up,

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four dozen employees over the last two years. You know,

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the there is some real truth to the lack of

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quality blue collar guys that that is a problem. But anyways,

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you know, I found this young guy and he started

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begging me for work, and he actually showed up on time,

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and he's been very consistent, and you know, I started

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to really appreciate that, and I decided to take him

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underneath my wing. You know, I I've got multiple projects

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that are going but I can't always keep him busy

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because he doesn't have skills. So one of the first

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things I did was help him get his driver's permit.

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I have him drive me around to get his hours.

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and I ended up having to pay for the costs

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and fees to get his permit, and I helped him

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fix his jeep. So he drives me around from job

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landscaper buddies. And this landscaper guy owns a pretty successful

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business and has been teaching him a more specific heartscaping,

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so building patios and retaining walls, and we kind of

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but the most important thing to me is that he

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actually shows up and cares and wants to do good work.

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and you know I've already made more than enough on

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my investment in him. And I don't even think about

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it that way. I just see a young kid who

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has a single mom and wants to do better and

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wants to be better. But you know, he was floundering

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before I met him, and it literally all it took

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was for another man to just tell him he needs

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to get his license and to show him how to work.

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And he's been great. And then I've got another example.

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Speaker 1: If you don't mind, no, please go ahead. Okay, good.

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Speaker 2: So I have another guy, and I actually just dealt

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with this yesterday. He's in his mid thirties, lives in

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a trailer park and was in the process of getting

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evicted because he was, you know, four or five months

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behind you in like four thousand bucks. I mean, it

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was not a good deal, and it was a place

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that he lived there for about ten years. Anyways, he's

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been my drywall and he's a he's a really good guy.

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And you know, he's another one of those guys you

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can tell he's down on his luck, you know, his

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waters you can tell that his water's been shut off,

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you know, he catch my drift, you know. But he's

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a good guy and he works hard, and I you know,

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I know that he if just given a little bit

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of love, you know. So anyways, I ended up getting

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ahold of his park manager and having a conversation with

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the guy, and we were able to negotiate a deal

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to kind of at least buy him some time to

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figure things out. And this guy, he didn't cry, but

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you could tell and his voice was a little emotional.

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And all I did was make a phone call and

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you know, work something out. And he told me that

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he just it was the first time in his life

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that anybody has, you know, even tried to stand up

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for him. And you know, and I told him, I

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wish that he'd told me about his situation sooner, and

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maybe we could have prevented a lot of the pressure

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that he's under. So anyways, you know, those are just

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two examples, you know, of guys and situations that I

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actually do with quite frequently where I actually don't have

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to do very much, but it means the world to

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these guys. And I know, Pete, that they will be

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loyal to me, probably for life or as long as

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we live in the same area.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's important, and yeah, it just I

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guess it feels right, you know, the to be able

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to will help somebody who's in a in a bad situation,

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you know, especially if they're the kind of people that

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this culture and this government and the academia everyone hates

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and says is evil. Yeah. If if we don't take

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try to take care of them, you know, no one's

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going to at this point, especially especially if their family

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is you know, if they're derascinator from their family or

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you know, well, I live.

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Speaker 2: In an area that has been absolutely devastated by the

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you know, the drug epidemic. You know, I we don't

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need to get into it, but I hate the word

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epidemic when it's applied to this. But you know, there

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have been a lot of families who have been absolutely

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and utterly destroyed by this, and a lot of men

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that I've met. You know, there are a lot of

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loggers out here, and a lot of these guys are

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heavy drug users. Unfortunately, some of them can keep it

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together and work hard, and a lot of guys, you know,

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they get hurt on the job or they go crazy.

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I see that a lot. But what I've noticed, Pete

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when in talking to these guys is that there's so

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much energy under the surface with them. I Mean, it's

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one of the reasons that I'm actually really excited and

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passionate about this is because these guys have a lot

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that they want to give. They just need somebody who

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cares about them. And as gay as that may sound like,

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it's the absolute truth. If they sense that there's another

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man who's just there to look out for him and

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it actually means it and will stand by it, they

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I just you can see it in their faces and

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the way that they act, right, I mean, even if

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it's not necessarily spoken. Again, going back to the gentleman

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and his house, I make this phone call and I

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know that he's going to be more willing to show

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up and help me do whatever that I need, and

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he's gonna cut me breaks in the future. And there

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are a lot of these guys that are like that.

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They just need like somebody to look out for and

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somebody to lead them.

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Speaker 1: Well, what do you do you think it is is

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that people more people would try to help them, but

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they see them because of the situation they're in. The

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assumption is is that they're lazy. They're not going to

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be a good worker, and you know, why would I.

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It may just be a waste of time trying to

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do this.

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Speaker 2: I think there's a number of factors, you know, I

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putting the race one aside, which is kind of the

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obvious one and the easy one. I think there really

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is a real class component to this that I know. Again,

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we've explored this and talked about this, but I see

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a lot of people that have just discussed and disdain

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for this class of men. You know, these blue collar guys.

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They're a little dirty, you know, maybe a little on kempt.

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They work long hours, they work unusual hours, they drive

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beat up pickup trucks. You know, they chew tobacco, they're rough,

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they swear. I mean, I live in a town where

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guys still getting fights at the bars regularly, just over

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stupid stuff, you know, like and people. I think people

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just find them uncouth and disgusting. And for me, I

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don't understand that attitude. You know, I can understand being

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a little bit report, you know, I got I have

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my guilty pleasures, you know, I very much am maybe

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not and I'm definitely not an intellectual right. I would

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not consider myself one, but I definitely find company with professors,

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and I enjoy engaging in some of these deeper conversations

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that some of these guys don't necessarily want to talk

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to me about. Not that they can't, by the way,

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I've found a lot of these guys are very capable

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of deep thoughts just given the chance. But there's just

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there's an essence and a soul to these guys that

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it's just it's part and I'm sorry, I'm trying to

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reach for the words and I don't have it, But

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there's something real to these men that could just again,

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given some attention and some real leadership. I think this

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is why I mean, again, I don't want to go

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too far afield here at Pete, but this is why Trump,

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the Trump Revolution seemed to have happened. This is why

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he had so much power and energy the first time

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and the second time, you know, because these guys were

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latching on to somebody who they actually genuinely thought was

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looking out for their interests, you know. So it's I

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don't know, I just again so I to bring it back.

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I just think it's a besides the race thing, it's

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a class thing and people are separated from them too, right.

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I mean, it's it's when we talk about the role

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versus the urban it very much is that there aren't

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nearly as many of these blue collar guys where you're

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gonna find these left wing or just intellectuals in general,

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because I have a hunch that a lot of you,

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even more conservative or right leading people, have the same

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general reaction to these guys and they don't take the

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time to get to know them or talk to them.

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Speaker 1: Well, I remember, you know, a while a while ago,

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probably nineties, when all you know, black crime was like

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all over the TV, because in the eighties it was there,

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but you know, TV wasn't as white spread. You were

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still at like three channels. And then in the nineties

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you start getting cable channels and you start having national news,

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national news channels, and you know, whenever they brought an

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expert on, it would be like, well, you know, where

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are the fathers? Where are the fathers? Do you think that?

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Do you think that's made its way into into the

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white communities too, now, where there's just yeah, if there's

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no father there there's no no one to teach responsibility,

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and no one to teach basically how to Okay, you

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fall down, get the hell up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see this a lot. Unfortunately in these you know,

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these kind of poor white rural communities. I definitely think

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those same trends are there. And I think this follows

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a basic biological pattern, as you just noted, in that

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these young men they don't from a young age, they

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don't have any man to look up to. And here's

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the other failing outside of just having somebody who's there

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to tell them, as you said, to just get up,

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to stop being weak and not cry, not that those

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things are bad, and good fathers, you know, should be

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able to teach their sons, whether you know, by telling

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them or showing them that, you know, being a man

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isn't always about getting in fights and being aggressive and

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all that, right, There's a lot more. There's a much

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broader depth of being a man than just being you know,

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mister macho alpha. But I do think too that when

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these young guys they go through school, and I the

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school system is not designed for young men. You know,

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I'm speaking as a guy who really struggled until I

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matured in my early twenties. But they don't have any

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heroes to look up to. So not only do they

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not have any father to look up to, they probably

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don't have an uncle or anybody else in their lives,

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maybe an older brother or sibling or something. But you know,

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they're not taught about Caesar or you know, George Washington

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or Napoleon or any of these men that they might

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look up to and grasp on to something great, something,

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you know, just something to emulate, and instead they're I

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don't even know what they're taught anymore.

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Speaker 1: Man, Honestly, I really think it goes towards something that

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you know, Thomas seven seven seven talks about the social

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engineering regime that you know that we've suffered for over

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eighty years now, where it's meant at base, what it's

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meant to do is it's meant to tear any kind

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of identity that you have, any kind of connection to

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your past, any kind of connection to your family, any

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kind of connection to any kind of heritage that you have,

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and you have a tendency to like you know, I

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know people who I know kids who are nineteen twenty

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years old, they're getting married, they're having kids, they're buying houses,

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and they grew up in a family that was there

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for them and pushed them, and it was just a

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given that you were screw college, You're going to we

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have a network of friends, a community. You'll get a

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job at a high school and you'll start right away,

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start a family, get a house. If someone we know

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has to build the house for you, however big, it'll

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be there. And I just think that that is so

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so much the exception now that when you hear about that,

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people don't believe it because that doesn't really it doesn't

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sound real unless you're in that kind of community. And

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you know, the further the closer you get to a city,

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you get to the ex serbs and the suburbs, and

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then you get into the city, a lot of that,

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you know, unless people have been in that city for

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generations and they do have family around them. I mean,

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it's just lost. It's just lost. The I don't know,

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I'm thoroughly frustrated because I see how it can be done,

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and I see how it's always been done, and I

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see how there are certain people and certain families that

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continue to do that and not talk about wealthy families either,

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And then you look around and it's like you'll see

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a family that's well to do, and the children just

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fall away. And just I mean I live in South Florida.

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South Florida is one of the wealthiest. You're talking about wealth,

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big time wealth, Broward County, West Palm Beach. You have

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forty five year old men who are working in warehouses,

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like just waiting for the family, their parents to die

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so that they can inherit money. And it's like, how

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do we get to that? How do we what happened

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that they weren't raise in a way where it's like, Okay,

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you're going to come into the family business. I'll get

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you a job at the company. I'll do it, you know.

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And and I'm not talking about like off like this is.

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I mean I knew a lot of people like that.

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I know a lot of people who would come through

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my bit, come through my company, who were just looking

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for Yeah, I just I probably only work here for

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a few months and everything, but you know, I'm just

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And then when you guys know them, it's like, yeah,

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I'm just you know my parents, my parents are very

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well off, and you know I'm gonna inherit it one day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's funny growing up where I did you know

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I was exposed to a lot of these kind of

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Bay Area California families that were moving up until I

475
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,079
too saw a lot of what you're describing, and I

476
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:46,119
still see it quite frequently, and I think this is

477
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,440
part of that larger theme of boomers and the older generation.

478
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,680
I really hate just blaming boomers, even though as a

479
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,119
generation right there's plenty to despise, But in this area,

480
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,720
I do think that they objectly failed. I mean, you know,

481
00:26:00,079 --> 00:26:03,240
I was again, I was very blessed with the good Father,

482
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:06,640
but even he shares some of these tendencies. You know,

483
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,519
I'd mentioned that he didn't pass on a lot of

484
00:26:08,519 --> 00:26:10,240
the blue collar skills that he had picked up when

485
00:26:10,279 --> 00:26:12,599
he was younger that I wish that he had taught me.

486
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,160
To his credit, he you know, he brought me in

487
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,240
as an apprentice and taught me his you know, his field.

488
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,839
So I in some ways, I actually got to participate

489
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,240
in something that that's actually quite historically normal. But as

490
00:26:25,319 --> 00:26:27,640
you said, I've noticed that that's the exception. And when

491
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,240
I look around, especially to a lot of these young

492
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,119
guys around here, they're just getting tossed in the meat grinder,

493
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,359
and a lot of a lot of the most successful

494
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,119
people that I have met in my area. They have

495
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,160
a deep connection to the land. I live in a

496
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,119
place where people are still living in the same house

497
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,759
that their ancestors that settled here, you know, one hundred and fifty,

498
00:26:46,839 --> 00:26:48,960
one hundred and sixty years ago lived in, or maybe

499
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,759
not the same house exactly, but on the same parcel

500
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:54,400
of land. That's actually very common and they so there's

501
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,240
some very for the at least for the West Coast

502
00:26:56,319 --> 00:26:58,400
deep roots here. And what you'll notice with a lot

503
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,079
of these more established families is happy as you described

504
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,000
is it's much more common for the uncle to come

505
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,519
over and help build something, or I've seen a lot

506
00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:09,160
of times where somebody has some excavation skills, or they've

507
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,279
got they own heavy equipment, and somebody else in the

508
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:13,839
family knows how to run it, and they all work

509
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,440
as these coordinated units. And these are some of the

510
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,480
most deeply in frenched and successful families in my area.

511
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,559
And whereas you know, you take a guy like me,

512
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,359
I'm coming in. I'm a total outsider and I've been

513
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,240
able to get a foothold, but only because the career

514
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,920
that I have chosen, and you know, there aren't very

515
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,160
many people I don't have very many competitors, and that

516
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,519
wasn't why we moved here, but it just happened to

517
00:27:36,519 --> 00:27:39,119
work out that way, thankfully. But it wasn't easy. It's

518
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:40,839
taken me four and a half years to get to

519
00:27:40,839 --> 00:27:43,519
the point where I actually feel comfortable. I feel like

520
00:27:43,559 --> 00:27:45,960
I'm plugged in and everybody's not looking at me like

521
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,599
an outsider. But it was difficult, and so I got

522
00:27:47,599 --> 00:27:49,079
a bit of a taste of what it's like to

523
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,160
not have anybody to help me out. Whereas if I

524
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,119
had family here who could plug me in right away,

525
00:27:54,319 --> 00:27:55,759
I wouldn't have had to spend four and a half

526
00:27:55,839 --> 00:27:58,200
years and thousands of dollars building connections.

527
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's transition, and to I mean, it's

528
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,440
not a total transition. I think that this is a

529
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,000
subject that plays into a lot of this too, And

530
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:15,680
it's something that we you had mentioned in your speech passing,

531
00:28:15,759 --> 00:28:19,000
but we were talking about at the after party, and

532
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:21,400
I think some of my some of the listeners are

533
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,440
probably sickond tired to me hearing me say this. But

534
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,799
how much do you think that feminization, the feminization of

535
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,160
society and the feminizing of men plays into this.

536
00:28:34,839 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 2: It's devastating, Pete, it's so bad, and it's such a

537
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:45,279
broad topic. You know, it's you know, I don't like

538
00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:47,920
I'll say this over and over again. I have nothing

539
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,279
new to say, right because I don't think we need

540
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:55,079
to say anything new. It's very obvious how detrimental and

541
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,599
damaging the feminization of not just men, but society as

542
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,279
a whole has been to our quality of living, the

543
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,240
way that we think, the way that we act. I mean,

544
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:06,240
you know when people talk about, oh, you know, losing freedoms,

545
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,960
one of the reasons for that is this culture of

546
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:12,400
safetysm that we've been subjected to. And it's absolutely devastating.

547
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,599
When people wonder why the world is becoming a less

548
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,079
interesting place, let's spiritually interesting place, it's because it's safe.

549
00:29:19,119 --> 00:29:20,799
I mean, I was on a hike the other day

550
00:29:21,119 --> 00:29:23,960
out in the middle of the woods, and as I

551
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,640
come up to the trail, I've got signs all over

552
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,559
the beginning of the trail telling me to pick up

553
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:31,160
my dog poop and giving me all the rules for

554
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,680
hiking on this path. And then you get another sign

555
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,680
just a little bit further down, giving you a detailed

556
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,440
history of the local tribe and what they used to

557
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,039
do with this this waterfall. I mean, it's it's fascinating,

558
00:29:41,079 --> 00:29:44,440
but all of a sudden you realize, like this place

559
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,759
that had some real deep spiritual meaning to the people

560
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:50,039
that previously inhabited it, now it's just it's totally vandalized

561
00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:52,240
by all these signs making sure that I stay safe,

562
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:54,839
and quite frankly, I don't think it's about me, so

563
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:56,880
they don't have to spend you know, money coming to

564
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,839
pick me up if I fall down a cliff side

565
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,559
or something. I mean, it's and it's deeper than that.

566
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:08,039
But anyways, it's so frustrating just because and this is

567
00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:09,559
one of the things as a man, right as I've

568
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,480
developed my sense of self, and you know, especially as

569
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:13,920
I've gone off on my own over the last six

570
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,279
years of my life, one of the things that I

571
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,319
come up again so frequently that frustrates me to my

572
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,960
core is that I feel bounded and in changed by

573
00:30:25,359 --> 00:30:28,079
this modern world. I find it to be absolutely suffocating

574
00:30:28,079 --> 00:30:30,680
and unbearable. A COVID, I'm sure has a part to

575
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,640
play in that, but even without COVID, you know, we've

576
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,160
been a couple years past it. Now I just there's

577
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,440
this oppressive feeling in the air. And I know you

578
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,400
feel it too. I think we all do, and but

579
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,000
I don't know how to quite push against it, right.

580
00:30:46,039 --> 00:30:48,160
I just I just feel like every day it shrinks

581
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,200
a little bit more and I get a little more

582
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,839
frustrated with it, and every time I try to break

583
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,480
those bounds and do something, I feel constrained again. It's yeah,

584
00:30:58,559 --> 00:30:59,440
it's just oppressive.

585
00:31:02,359 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, it's it's massive, and it's basically

586
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:20,240
infected everything. The way people argue, the way I think

587
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,640
a lot of it has to do with being terminally

588
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:28,640
online as well, because when you're people do not realize that.

589
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:33,319
Like so many of the comments and I'm and I'm

590
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,440
probably just as guilty as everybody else. But the comments

591
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,599
that some people make and the way they attack other

592
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:49,440
people is it's what you used to hear. I used

593
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,720
to hear my mom talk about her friends and be like,

594
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:59,200
well that person's caddie, you know, like they they just

595
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,000
want to start drama. They just want I mean, you

596
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:06,799
have no idea on my live streams on Sunday. My

597
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,000
live streams on my on Sunday are me interacting with

598
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:12,519
the chat. That's what it is. It's for me to

599
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:14,799
hang out with, hang out with the listeners, the people

600
00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:22,799
who drop by every week, every week without fail. Somebody

601
00:32:23,039 --> 00:32:27,559
asks a question that if I were to answer it,

602
00:32:27,559 --> 00:32:29,640
it would be me. They're trying to get me to

603
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,599
start drama with somebody else.

604
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,799
Speaker 2: And it's like, I've noticed you slowly start losing your

605
00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,000
mind over the course of those streams. I've tuned into

606
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:40,119
a few.

607
00:32:40,759 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm very stoic in the beginning, normally unless I

608
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,160
go into unless I'm unless I'm ready to do a

609
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,000
rant in the beginning, and then it's like, I mean,

610
00:32:51,119 --> 00:32:54,200
it's what what what do you? What do you? What

611
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,240
are you trying to do to me? And it's not everyone.

612
00:32:56,279 --> 00:32:58,319
Most of the people are in the stream are perfectly fine,

613
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:03,519
perfectly fine. But it's like, oh, so what do you

614
00:33:03,559 --> 00:33:07,359
think about this person? And it's like do you realize. Look,

615
00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,119
I know I'm old, but one good thing about being

616
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:18,319
old is I've seen this. Like I've been alive when

617
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,119
people weren't like this. I've been alive when there was

618
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,759
no internet. I've been alive when there was no cell phones.

619
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,160
I've been alive when there was three, you know, like

620
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:32,519
three channels and a couple of local channels on TV.

621
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,519
I've been alive where if you I mean where cable

622
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:41,960
TV just came out and like, you know, maybe you

623
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,160
could pay a guy one hundred bucks to get you

624
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:53,079
some illegal HBO And when you when you look like

625
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,160
if you go on Twitter and you scroll a timeline,

626
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,960
if you could just ignore the names of the people,

627
00:34:03,119 --> 00:34:09,159
you would think almost every single person on there was

628
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:15,199
a like forty five to fifty year old woman responding

629
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,400
to another forty five to fifty year old woman and

630
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:29,159
they're gossiping and fighting around a kitchen table, playing you know, canasta.

631
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, this is one of the things that

632
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,840
has kept me away from the online space and having

633
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,480
any sort of digital footprint is I have kind of

634
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:42,719
picked it up d Osmosis, you know, listening to you

635
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,960
and some of the other guys who I enjoyed listening

636
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,280
to and appreciate, and every once in a while I

637
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,480
catch snippets of drama here, drama there, and if I

638
00:34:49,559 --> 00:34:52,920
read substack, you know, I'll sometimes guys write articles about

639
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,239
each other and honestly, Pete, it's just total rank faggotry.

640
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,599
It just disgusted me and I find it repulsive because

641
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,440
that's exactly what it seems like is you've got a

642
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,760
bunch of middle aged women who are in church and

643
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,480
are gods me about Becky down the street. And it's

644
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:12,360
pathetic for me to see ostensibly men guys on our

645
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,920
side who fancy themselves great men, perhaps just lower themselves

646
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:23,199
is such a base level. It's pathetic, and I you know,

647
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,559
I don't want to rant for too long on this,

648
00:35:24,639 --> 00:35:27,960
but because you get the point right, it's just, you know,

649
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,719
one of the things I wanted to talk about in

650
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,400
this regard is that energy is a currency, right. Energy

651
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,039
is a thing that you spend in order to get

652
00:35:35,039 --> 00:35:38,639
things done. And when you're spending all of this currency

653
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,239
and wasting your energy online, that's energy that you're not

654
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,920
getting back that could be you know, done or used

655
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,199
for something that's in real life. I mean it's time

656
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:49,559
that you're using online. It's mental energy that you're using

657
00:35:49,559 --> 00:35:51,880
coming up with a comeback or whatever it might be.

658
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400
And this complete and utter waste of energy, it's just

659
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,760
like waves dashing upon rocks. I mean, it just does nothing.

660
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,079
It dissipates, and then you know, the energy that you

661
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,840
might have had that could have been done for used

662
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,400
for something in your own personal life or to better

663
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,639
your community is gone and wasted. And I think that

664
00:36:08,639 --> 00:36:11,800
that even above how gay it actually is, that that's

665
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,760
the biggest sin of it all. It's just you're wasting

666
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,119
this energy, this very limited resource that anybody has.

667
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think that basically it's a syop that I

668
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,360
think a lot of people have been convinced and I

669
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:34,199
was at one time so Maya Kulpa, that if you

670
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,880
go on social media, especially if you go on Twitter,

671
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,960
because you know that's where world leaders are and politicians are,

672
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:50,840
and you make an argument or you chimp out, you're

673
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,920
like you're making a difference. No, And it's like, wait

674
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:07,679
a minute, So you think that a little political victory

675
00:37:08,559 --> 00:37:10,440
something that's not going to move the needle at all.

676
00:37:10,519 --> 00:37:14,480
Mind you, it makes you feel good. But I think

677
00:37:14,519 --> 00:37:17,760
we all know the kind of change that we would

678
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,559
need politically in order for our lives to like transform

679
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:29,360
is impossible at this point, impossible at a national level.

680
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:36,719
So basically people have been psyoped into spending their whole

681
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:43,519
time online. And that also that ties into you know,

682
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,039
convincing convincing men that there are no women out there

683
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,840
that they can get with. You know, I I you know,

684
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,119
people and I'll say that, and young guys will be

685
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:55,440
like all the girls I know, they're all shit lives.

686
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:58,000
You know, they're all liberals, they're they're like leftists, and

687
00:37:58,039 --> 00:38:01,079
I'm like, I mean, literally, the purpose of dating is

688
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:02,679
to find out if a woman is going to adopt

689
00:38:02,679 --> 00:38:05,719
your politics, because women have no political women have no

690
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,440
political agency onto themselves. And as soon as you accept

691
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,719
that that they better be adopting your politics or you're

692
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,920
going to be divorced and you're going to be miserable,

693
00:38:17,679 --> 00:38:21,159
then you can start figuring this out. But it's also

694
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,320
you know, the feminization of men is it's like, well,

695
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,679
I don't you know, why would I want to change

696
00:38:27,679 --> 00:38:32,480
her mind? Well? Why would I? Because that's that's your

697
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:38,000
fucking job, because you know, they leave their dad and

698
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:42,880
they go to you, and that's like biblical or.

699
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,639
Speaker 2: It's like, well, dude, I mean, you shouldn't even have

700
00:38:46,679 --> 00:38:50,039
to change their mind. Honestly, I've noticed this just in

701
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,400
my own relationship with my wife. You know, she and

702
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,960
I we weren't very different people, let's say, but I

703
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:01,639
definitely had a more realistic perspective about a lot of

704
00:39:01,639 --> 00:39:03,239
the things that we see. And a lot of these

705
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,360
are born through my own personal observations and living situations.

706
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,320
And you know, just I never had to change her mind.

707
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,239
We never had a debate. It just we got you know.

708
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:14,480
And this is before we got married too.

709
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: It just happens, like it happenssmosis. It just happens. I'm

710
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:22,000
not saying that you have to you have to actively

711
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:28,320
get into a debate and hammer and yeah, no, you're no,

712
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,639
she is going to adopt your beliefs because she doesn't

713
00:39:32,679 --> 00:39:35,360
have any concrete beliefs or room. She thinks she does,

714
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,280
but she doesn't.

715
00:39:39,159 --> 00:39:42,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is That's one of the things that frustrates

716
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,800
me so much about how men perceive their relationships with women.

717
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,599
I mean, I'm not gonna I don't want to do

718
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,360
the whole bloomer stick of pretending like things are the

719
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,400
same as they were, you know. And like I said,

720
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,639
this confidence, I've been out of the game for ten years.

721
00:39:53,639 --> 00:39:58,280
But I don't think that women haven't just fundamentally changed

722
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,519
all of a sudden because of technology. Some things are

723
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:02,920
certainly different, and there's no denying that there are certainly

724
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:05,840
difficulties that might have to be overcome, But by and large,

725
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,960
most women they're going to follow your lead. It just happens.

726
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:11,840
I don't know how else to explain it. I'm sure

727
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,639
that there are people out there in some academic articles.

728
00:40:13,679 --> 00:40:16,239
I don't care. I just I've seen this enough in

729
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,679
real life where and it's not just with my wife, right,

730
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:22,119
I've you know, we have our friends and and my

731
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:25,000
buddies wives, and I've noticed much of the same thing

732
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:27,159
with them. You know, some women are a bit different.

733
00:40:27,519 --> 00:40:29,840
My wife can be stubborn in certain areas, and that's fine, right,

734
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,400
she has her own personality, and that's one of the

735
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,719
reasons I love her. But you know, by and large,

736
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,079
I never debated her, We never argued. I just you know,

737
00:40:39,079 --> 00:40:40,719
there are a few things I told her before I

738
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,079
proposed to her that you know, they were going to

739
00:40:43,119 --> 00:40:45,320
be this way, or we weren't getting married, and that

740
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:45,760
was it.

741
00:40:47,559 --> 00:40:52,039
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and it's just I think that goes back

742
00:40:52,079 --> 00:41:00,239
to the feminization. It's like you're you're scared to you're

743
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:04,760
so feminized that you you don't see that you have

744
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,639
to actually be a leader, you know. It's that whole

745
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:12,519
thing about oh yeah, here's another one. If you're saying, oh,

746
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,159
my wife's my best friend, you bought into a syop,

747
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,559
you bought into a fucking syop. Oh believe me, I've

748
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:25,880
bought this is my I'm on my last marriage, my

749
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:31,079
second one, it was. I've bought into that bullshit before too,

750
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,760
So learn from my fucking mistakes. Your your wife's not

751
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,440
your best friend, it's your fucking wife.

752
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 2: Well, there's there's a hierarchument in order to things now.

753
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,559
I completely agree, you know, it's you know what we

754
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:45,360
talked about debates and arguments. I mean, we did have

755
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,239
an argument about this a little while ago because I

756
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,119
made a comment very similar to that and that I

757
00:41:50,119 --> 00:41:51,840
don't you know, I don't be her as my best friend.

758
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,079
I love her, I take care of her and uh,

759
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,880
you know, and we have a great relationship. She's she's

760
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,920
a wonderful woman. But consider your I don't you know,

761
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:02,719
I don't go drink beers with my wife and cus

762
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,800
and do whatever. You know, you know I'm going to

763
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,440
go do in my free time with the boys. You know,

764
00:42:06,519 --> 00:42:08,280
I'm just not gonna do it with my wife. I've

765
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,320
got friends for that and we're not going to do that.

766
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,760
And I'm also not going to try and procreate with

767
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,280
my buddies. It's just not going to happen. Oh, it's

768
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,519
like it's just people forget that they have duties and

769
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:20,760
responsibilities to each other that they're not going to have

770
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,599
with their friends. It's really not a complicated concept. Again,

771
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,360
it's just so frustrating that these things have become so convoluted.

772
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,000
I just I mean, pete, Honestly, I've grown so tired of,

773
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,400
you know, the ideologies of the twentieth century that have

774
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,320
bled over into the twenty first century, when it's so

775
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,199
obvious that these things have nothing to do with how

776
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:39,119
people actually live.

777
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: How do you think that all bleeds over into people's

778
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:49,239
professional lives men not people's How does that flow over

779
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,159
into men's personal lives?

780
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: The ideology or the feminization.

781
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: The feminization.

782
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 2: I think one of the things that I've been lamenting,

783
00:43:00,039 --> 00:43:02,960
well forgive me for using another example from you know,

784
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:04,599
my own personal life, but this is where I draw

785
00:43:04,639 --> 00:43:06,360
a lot of experience, honestly, and I think it's been

786
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,480
very informative. Is I've noticed that there is no honor

787
00:43:10,079 --> 00:43:13,000
among contractors and the other men that I've had to

788
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,000
work with. You know, guys will tell me they're going

789
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:16,719
to show up at a certain time and they don't,

790
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,079
and we're talking about professionals here, I'm not just kicking

791
00:43:19,079 --> 00:43:22,320
the guy who's in, you know, working for a basic wage.

792
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:22,559
Speaker 1: Here.

793
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:25,199
Speaker 2: I had a guy who told me he was going

794
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,760
to do a thing, and I trusted that he was

795
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,840
going to do that thing and complete it by the

796
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,320
time that he said he was going to complete it,

797
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,199
by I showed up when he was supposed to be

798
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,719
done to meet with him and talk to him about it,

799
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,199
and nothing. He hadn't even touched it and hadn't told

800
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,159
me nothing. There was no responsibility. It just again it

801
00:43:41,159 --> 00:43:42,760
goes back to the sense of honor that I think

802
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,639
has been lost between men and and something is basic

803
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:48,159
as just keeping to your word. I think that this

804
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,599
is one of the most frustrating things that has disappeared

805
00:43:50,599 --> 00:43:53,440
in our culture, is the fact that words mean nothing anymore.

806
00:43:54,199 --> 00:43:56,599
You know, someone might say an oath, but what is that?

807
00:43:56,639 --> 00:43:58,920
It's just air, right. I think that's how a lot

808
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,000
of people view this, and that, to me is one

809
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,880
of the strongest indicators of just this hyperfeminization that is

810
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,280
snuck in. And we're talking about hard men too, that

811
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,239
will do this right, Guys who you wouldn't normally call effeminate.

812
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,679
But again, you know, if you say something and you

813
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,800
promise something and you fail to deliver or even to

814
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,039
attempt to deliver, and then don't communicate those things like

815
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:23,440
to me that that's just weak.

816
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. I can't remember who I was talking

817
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,280
with a few years ago. It was when I was

818
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,519
really starting to understand just how evil and fucked up

819
00:44:34,679 --> 00:44:40,199
liberalism was and how it just it is. Basically, it's

820
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,920
there to destroy a society. It's there to weaken a

821
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:50,320
society so that those who know exactly how it's affecting

822
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,320
society can actually rule society while everybody else is being

823
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,519
drunk on liberalism and getting derascinated and falling apart. Get

824
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,320
you can get a organized group come in and basically

825
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,880
be able to take over and destroy what the society

826
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:14,800
that's been built. And I remember asking, you know, it's

827
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,760
like people talk about we want freedom, and it's like,

828
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,960
and you know, before, before the Enlightenment, there was no freedom.

829
00:45:25,679 --> 00:45:29,079
And I don't remember who it was you said, he said,

830
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:34,119
it might have been Orn said, Yeah, there was freedom

831
00:45:34,599 --> 00:45:37,639
before the Enlightenment. There was freedom when they were kings.

832
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,119
There was even freedom when they were when people were serfs,

833
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:47,559
it was called responsibility, and people took it seriously. And

834
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:50,719
a lot of those people who were even serfs, if

835
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:56,239
they took responsibility and they did what they needed to do,

836
00:45:57,039 --> 00:46:00,320
they actually have more They actually have more free freedom,

837
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:04,119
actually have more free time a lot than the average

838
00:46:04,159 --> 00:46:05,880
person does today.

839
00:46:06,639 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the average the average peasant farmer in fourteenth century Europe,

840
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:12,280
I think, worked like an average of three months tending

841
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,639
to their fields and then and this is why you

842
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:18,159
get all those beautiful cathedrals all throughout northern, southern, and

843
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,679
western Europe, well really everywhere in Europe. But that's how

844
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,960
you get that is as men who they they, You know,

845
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:27,760
they were able to work and to provide for their families,

846
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,639
and it only required a couple of months of time

847
00:46:29,679 --> 00:46:31,519
at most, and then they were able to dedicate the

848
00:46:31,519 --> 00:46:33,559
rest of the time to building and to actually enhancing

849
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,880
their communities. Again, it goes back to the beginning of

850
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,599
our conversation where I mean we are slaves in the

851
00:46:38,639 --> 00:46:42,639
truest sense, not just to money and worshiping Moloch, but

852
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,800
also to our passions. And this is one of the

853
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,599
things that frustrates me the most is that people are

854
00:46:46,599 --> 00:46:50,320
so attached this idea of freedom, well not recognizing as

855
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,519
you said that it's truly it's responsibility that actually provides

856
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:56,440
for freedom. You know. One of the things that I

857
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440
really it opened my eyes to a lot of the

858
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,159
perversions of realism when I was in college is when

859
00:47:01,159 --> 00:47:03,679
I started reading Aristotle and I started to really start

860
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,400
to understand the four cardinal virtues, and I started to

861
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,800
apply them. You start to realize that these base tenets

862
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,119
of living life actually free you for the bounds of

863
00:47:13,159 --> 00:47:16,719
a lot of those things that might accidently slave your minds.

864
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,679
I mean, I think this is one of the things

865
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,880
that has been so devastating for modern society, and it's

866
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,599
one of the things that we are facing and people

867
00:47:24,639 --> 00:47:29,000
who shouldn't I mean again, like not the heart of

868
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:32,039
this issue in particular, but people who are you know, transsexuals.

869
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:34,840
These are people who I actually have a lot of

870
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,920
pity for them because I think that their minds have

871
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,280
been so warped by lust and other probably deeper and

872
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:44,079
more nasty and perverse desires that they've just let run rampant.

873
00:47:44,199 --> 00:47:46,320
And this is what happens at the end, is they

874
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,039
become twisted and turn into these these unfortunate and pitiable creatures,

875
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:53,840
dangerous creatures. Even so, I totally agree with you. There's

876
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,840
this idea of freedom that modern Americans have is just

877
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,800
it's it's completely perverted and inverted quite frankly.

878
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: Well, I mean I think that it's just one of

879
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:13,280
those things where it's because you're completely deracinated. Because I

880
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:16,559
think I've been listening to a couple appearances. I think

881
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,440
first with Orrin and then with Jay Burden is a

882
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:29,719
gentleman Johann Kurtz. He's written this book on Yeah, I

883
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:34,400
gotta I gotta look it up, but the uh basically

884
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:40,679
talking about how if you're not raising your if you're

885
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,320
if you're not trying, it's you know, basically how to

886
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:50,639
build a legacy m and that's something that is completely lost.

887
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:54,400
I mean when you sure there are some families, you know,

888
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,559
legacy families who their their kids get caught up in

889
00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:04,800
caught up like the the Pritzker family. I mean, they

890
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,079
have a fucking you know, one of the kids is

891
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,800
a fucking freak, and they're also, you know, funding one

892
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,519
of the biggest funders of this whole transgender thing. But

893
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:20,119
you know, if you raise somebody with in Okay, this

894
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:23,400
is what you're this is who we are, this is

895
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,079
what we do, and this is what you're going to do.

896
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:29,960
If you want to go away to college, it's going

897
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:32,639
to be for a specific purpose. But we have a

898
00:49:32,679 --> 00:49:35,119
family business, we have this, we have that, and this

899
00:49:35,199 --> 00:49:37,719
is the way things are going to be done. And

900
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,280
it's not you're not doing it as a tyrant. You're

901
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,239
doing it as this is the way it's always been.

902
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,840
This is a we are a you know, this family

903
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,440
is a unit. This family is something historic, and you're

904
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,760
a part of it. And you raise people like that

905
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:58,440
they have I would assume they have less of a

906
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:00,880
tendency to run off off and be like, oh, yeah,

907
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,920
I should cut my dick off because I have no opportunity.

908
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:08,079
I have no identity. I'm not going to become a

909
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:12,079
you know, run out and like politics, like a political

910
00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:16,039
ideology is going to become my identity and my morality

911
00:50:16,519 --> 00:50:19,800
because I have no I haven't grown up with an identity.

912
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,519
I haven't been given an identity. I haven't been taught

913
00:50:22,519 --> 00:50:25,320
that I have an identity and that it's something historic

914
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:28,159
and it's something that my ancestors have and it's something

915
00:50:28,199 --> 00:50:31,920
that I'm supposed to pass on to, you know, to

916
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:37,800
my progeny. It's so if you don't have that. Yeah,

917
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,800
and I didn't grow up with that at all, then

918
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,719
you you know, I mean I didn't cut my dick off,

919
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,960
but a lot of people are doing that. A lot

920
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,599
of people are doing that because I mean, what kind

921
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:53,519
of grounding can they have? What kind of identity can

922
00:50:53,559 --> 00:50:58,079
they have? If you do that, you don't know who

923
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:01,519
you are. You have an eye idea of what you are.

924
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:06,880
You don't know who you are, and you just you

925
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:13,239
think that you're just a I don't know, well what

926
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,840
am I? I'm a sex a sexual. Everything's about my dick,

927
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:24,280
everything's about my genitals. What kind of society? How do

928
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,079
you build something off of that? How do you build

929
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:28,079
a legacy off of that? How do you build a society?

930
00:51:28,119 --> 00:51:29,679
How do you have a society where you have people

931
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,840
running around going I'm going to get laws passed that

932
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:39,480
because I'm I'm so damaged that I cut my dick off,

933
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,519
I'm going to get a law pass that. If you

934
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,559
don't call me what I want you to call me,

935
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,480
you're going to go to jail. Apparently some reading today,

936
00:51:49,159 --> 00:51:53,400
some guy in freakin' Ireland is being sentenced to life

937
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,960
in prison because you misgendered somebody was.

938
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:05,079
Speaker 2: This the teacher. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna refrain

939
00:52:05,079 --> 00:52:12,000
from fed posting Pete. Uh. But but because yes, I

940
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,280
the short the short answer, and the only answer, quite frankly,

941
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,039
is you can't. Right. It's like I said, I while

942
00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:22,559
I may have pity for them, these people, and they're

943
00:52:22,559 --> 00:52:24,719
going to continue to prove it time and again, they

944
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,559
are dangerous. Uh, They've proven dangerous already. They're being filled

945
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:31,840
with hatred for people like you and I and just

946
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,639
for children. And this hatred could take a number of

947
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:37,679
different forms. Right. It isn't just in the use of

948
00:52:37,679 --> 00:52:40,840
of actual you know, gun violence or or knife violence. Right,

949
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,280
it could be in very sexual in nature. Again, we

950
00:52:44,519 --> 00:52:47,320
talk about the passions, and these people have completely submitted

951
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,800
to lust and to rage and to any other number

952
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:56,679
of of these you know, deadly sins. And as a result,

953
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,280
I I don't know, I don't know what you do

954
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:04,880
with them, Pete, or at least I won't say it here. Oh,

955
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,320
but it's a sign of where we are, right, It's

956
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,519
just a sign of how degraded we have become as

957
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,559
a country. And again, you know, to kind of bring

958
00:53:12,559 --> 00:53:14,320
it back to a lot of the things that I

959
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,880
really want to focus on before I get myself in trouble,

960
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,000
is just that I just want to build, man Like,

961
00:53:19,079 --> 00:53:21,000
that's all I want to do. I want to love

962
00:53:21,039 --> 00:53:23,519
the people in my community. I want to build for them,

963
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:27,480
I want to fight for them. And that's kind of

964
00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:30,400
how I want to think about the world. Is. Yes,

965
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,000
there are a lot of these terrible things going on,

966
00:53:32,159 --> 00:53:34,920
you know, but I'm just a random guy, right and

967
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,920
I can't deal with all these crazy things happening at

968
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,239
the national level, but I can ostensibly deal with these

969
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,639
things at the local level, just again by trying to

970
00:53:43,639 --> 00:53:46,440
protect these families, protect these schools, paying attention to what

971
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:48,639
is going on in them, and hopefully, you know, doing

972
00:53:48,679 --> 00:53:51,199
the best that I can and with the people around

973
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,840
me to kind of protect these children's minds, because that's

974
00:53:54,159 --> 00:53:56,239
that's where a lot of the starts is these children

975
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,599
lose their innocence at an age that's far too young.

976
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:00,760
And that's one of the great agities of all of this.

977
00:54:02,679 --> 00:54:06,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the I think what a lot of people don't realize,

978
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:08,760
and this is something that I've been stressed. I did

979
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:13,719
a two hour spaces with with some gentleman today on

980
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:18,239
Twitter and what and it's what I'm stressing there is

981
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:24,400
no top down solution to this. There is no we

982
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:27,880
get the right guy elected in Washington, DC, we get

983
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:32,719
the right guy elected a governorship, and they're going to

984
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,519
fix all of this. No, no, what you're doing. What

985
00:54:37,599 --> 00:54:43,159
you're doing fixes this. Going out and seeing that there's

986
00:54:43,199 --> 00:54:48,239
a guy who people just giving up on and you're like, yeah,

987
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,599
I think he deserves a chance. Sure he might let

988
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:54,400
me down, Sure my fox some shut up, but I'm

989
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,360
gonna give him a chance. And you know, there's a

990
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,320
chance that you could just absolutely turns somebody's life around.

991
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,840
And I'm not saying that, you know, you're going to

992
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,960
change the world, You're going to change your part of

993
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,119
the world, but I think that's you know, and this

994
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,960
is starting to sound like some kind of freaking motivational bullshit,

995
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,920
But if everybody just started concentrating on doing that, who

996
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,760
the fuck cares? Who's president? Yeah, I mean I hear

997
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,159
people go that, well, you know, they'll come and get

998
00:55:23,199 --> 00:55:27,599
you at some point and everything like that. It's like you, okay, well,

999
00:55:27,639 --> 00:55:31,000
I mean I've been saying that forever. It's like, oh,

1000
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:34,599
they're you know, they're coming get and they haven't. They're

1001
00:55:34,639 --> 00:55:36,800
probably not going to You're probably not going to come

1002
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,519
and get most people any other the budgets to do

1003
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:44,119
stuff like that much less the will you just fucking

1004
00:55:44,119 --> 00:55:48,079
making excuses. We just fucking making excuses for not doing anything.

1005
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,079
Speaker 2: No, I agree. I mean, look, this is the thing.

1006
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:53,280
That's how I look at it. Pete is, well, there,

1007
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,880
I guess there are a couple of ways. But if

1008
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,599
they're going to come, if somebody's got to come after

1009
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,159
me and kick in my door and take me away

1010
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,480
just because I want to legitimately help the people in

1011
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,320
my community and I want to take care of them

1012
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:05,760
and do right by them, then we're fucked anyways, Like

1013
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,760
what else are you supposed to do at that point?

1014
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,559
If it's somebody who And the thing is, you know,

1015
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,880
if guys like us are working and starting to set

1016
00:56:16,159 --> 00:56:19,119
examples that run counter to the narrative, and people start

1017
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:22,719
to notice, there is a good chance that maybe some

1018
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:25,559
people get knocks on the door. But I think that's

1019
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:27,480
that's just something that we have to accept. That's the

1020
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,039
world we live in, whether or not you like it.

1021
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,639
And I often I try to you know that the

1022
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:36,719
Latin phrase momentum morge remembering death. I try to think

1023
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,920
about how I would think about my life if I

1024
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:40,880
were to dive right now, and then also how I

1025
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,679
would perfect on my life as I've lived it up

1026
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,480
to this point when I'm you know, if I make

1027
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:46,199
it to my deathbed and I get to think about

1028
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,159
these things, and if I knew the things that I

1029
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,199
know and I didn't try to do something to protect

1030
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:54,400
the people in my community. And again, I'm just talking

1031
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,559
about building things about you know, starting businesses, funding businesses,

1032
00:56:58,599 --> 00:57:01,599
giving people some money, giving people opportunities, you know, just

1033
00:57:01,639 --> 00:57:03,719
beating them. Like, I'm not talking about anything other than

1034
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,119
those things. If I don't do those things, then I

1035
00:57:06,199 --> 00:57:08,519
lived a miserable and failed life at the end of it.

1036
00:57:08,639 --> 00:57:10,000
And I think that that's how a lot of us

1037
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:14,000
really need to start thinking. It's just that things are happening,

1038
00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:16,800
and they're happening at a rapid pace, and if you

1039
00:57:17,119 --> 00:57:19,199
understand that there is something that is off and you've

1040
00:57:19,199 --> 00:57:22,639
seen it, you absolutely have a responsibility to start to

1041
00:57:22,719 --> 00:57:28,519
act against that. And again I'm just just go down.

1042
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,880
I mean, it can be as simple as picking up

1043
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,760
trash or going down and volunteering at your homeless shelter.

1044
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:36,079
You don't need to build a big, multi million dollar

1045
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:38,960
business and employ a bunch of people. But not everybody's

1046
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,360
going to do that. Not everybody's cut out for that,

1047
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,000
And there's nothing wrong with that. Just picking up the

1048
00:57:43,039 --> 00:57:45,719
trash and helping the old lady carry in her groceries

1049
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,519
is all you got to do. It's you know, I'm

1050
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,800
not talking about anything massive here.

1051
00:57:53,079 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's I think a lot of

1052
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,400
people are a lot of guys are defeated. They feel defeated.

1053
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:08,039
They feel like they've been taught that anything that they

1054
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:11,400
try to change is going is not going to make

1055
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,920
a difference, and somebody else is going to have to

1056
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:17,880
make the change. And you know, it's one one of

1057
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,360
the great things I like about Thomas is Thomas is

1058
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:26,880
just like, well, I mean, this isn't this isn't salvagable.

1059
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:33,400
You know, Washington, DC, basically politics, the regime isn't salvageable.

1060
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:37,400
So anything you're doing to try to like fix it,

1061
00:58:38,159 --> 00:58:41,800
you're basically like the enemy. You're trying to fix something

1062
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:46,480
that is, you know, your enemy. You're just hoping that

1063
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:50,000
you get someone elected who isn't even going to help you.

1064
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,840
It's just going to leave you alone. And while you're

1065
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,079
doing that you're thinking that you're down in the dumps.

1066
00:58:58,119 --> 00:59:01,039
You're not doing anything. You're not building social capital with people,

1067
00:59:02,039 --> 00:59:09,119
you're not building a community. And oh, go ahead's right,

1068
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:10,320
go ahead.

1069
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh I'm just gonna say. It's like I said on

1070
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,559
my speech, it's just live historical lives. Just go be

1071
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:18,440
a local. Go get to know your local bartender, or

1072
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,280
go get to know a couple of your you know,

1073
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:23,440
business owners and just make friends with them. Go. It's

1074
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:26,039
again like it's just participating in that community, this idea

1075
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:28,559
that's just been completely obliterated over the last eighty years.

1076
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,320
And I'm fully aware of the difficulties of these things.

1077
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,039
You know, the place my hometown has been completely destroyed

1078
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:40,239
by overdevelopment and completely, I mean it's been demographically replaced, okay,

1079
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,159
Like It's one of the things that troubles my soul

1080
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,480
very deeply is the fact that because I'm very much

1081
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,920
a homebody, right, I had a very deep love for

1082
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,760
the marshes and the forests and the fields and the

1083
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:53,559
hills that I played in as a boy, and they

1084
00:59:53,559 --> 00:59:56,559
are all gone, and they've all been built on with

1085
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,280
massive apartment complexes. It's impossible to drive around. I don't

1086
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:04,199
recognize any faces anymore. So in that place, I don't

1087
01:00:04,199 --> 01:00:06,119
know how you build community anymore. I don't know in

1088
01:00:06,159 --> 01:00:08,119
my hometown, I don't know how you do it. Okay,

1089
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,599
but I do know because of where I've lived and

1090
01:00:10,639 --> 01:00:13,159
lots of other places. This isn't just a small town thing.

1091
01:00:13,239 --> 01:00:15,360
I've lived in a big city in which I started

1092
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:18,840
to do this very similar thing, and I've seen it,

1093
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:22,679
so I know it is possible. It's just it's literally

1094
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,400
just being local and paying attention to those things. Again,

1095
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:32,559
I think people over complicate things far too greatly. And

1096
01:00:32,599 --> 01:00:34,760
here's another thing, and I don't want to be hypercritical

1097
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,960
of guys, because I've been there, Pete. You know, I

1098
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:41,559
I was. I've been really I still battled depression from

1099
01:00:41,559 --> 01:00:44,719
time to time, and I made a decision about five

1100
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,280
years ago that I just I wasn't going to wallow

1101
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,519
in this misery. But I do understand it. And what

1102
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:53,239
I always ask myself was what was the point. But

1103
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,519
one of the things that really helped to put things

1104
01:00:55,559 --> 01:00:58,480
into perspective is the truth that you know, as a Christian,

1105
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:01,159
you know there is this idea that we're transient and

1106
01:01:01,199 --> 01:01:02,760
Heaven is to come, and that's fine. Right, But I

1107
01:01:03,039 --> 01:01:05,800
don't just believe and just disappearing in some flash of

1108
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,159
light and going away, like we need to do things

1109
01:01:08,159 --> 01:01:09,880
and build things. Here we're called to build and to

1110
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,000
love and to do those things. But you know, I

1111
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,519
studied the Romans. I have a deep love for the ancients,

1112
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,159
and almost nothing that those great men that many of

1113
01:01:20,239 --> 01:01:23,280
us might admire, none of it still really exists. Nothing

1114
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,760
that they've really built still is there, at least tangibly.

1115
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:27,880
I mean, all things kind of fall away into kay

1116
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,760
over time. So but that doesn't matter. That wouldn't have

1117
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,840
stopped Alexander from conquering Persia, wouldn't have stopped Caesar from

1118
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:38,079
conquering Goal. It didn't matter, you know. And I think

1119
01:01:38,119 --> 01:01:39,760
that's what guys need to stop worrying about. They just

1120
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,880
need to understand yet, Okay, things may not be permanent,

1121
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,400
doesn't matter, right, It is your duty to look out

1122
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,719
for your people and to try and build your community

1123
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,800
and do right by those around you. It doesn't matter

1124
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:50,880
what ultimately is going to happen. And you know, if

1125
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,679
everything falls apart and you get destroyed, well you fought

1126
01:01:54,679 --> 01:01:57,400
the good fight, and you know you deserve to be honored.

1127
01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:59,840
And maybe yeah, you probably won't be remembered, but so

1128
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,639
what you know, like I think, just I think this

1129
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:05,159
is the biggest problem with people on the right. And

1130
01:02:05,239 --> 01:02:07,000
I apologize for going too long here, but it's just

1131
01:02:07,199 --> 01:02:10,079
people are stuck in their own minds and the world

1132
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:12,480
really isn't. In some ways it is that bad and

1133
01:02:12,519 --> 01:02:14,480
otherwise it's not. But either way it doesn't matter. It

1134
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,679
shouldn't stop people from getting out there from our guys,

1135
01:02:16,679 --> 01:02:18,880
from getting out there and fighting for what is right,

1136
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:20,840
for building for something better.

1137
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, it's I mean, it's breaking through

1138
01:02:33,639 --> 01:02:40,039
you know, conditioning, breaking through brainwashing, and you know, just fear.

1139
01:02:41,719 --> 01:02:47,480
You know, you can never discount how just how fearful

1140
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:52,480
people are to try and how fearful people are to fail,

1141
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:58,679
and you just can't have any success without it. You

1142
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:02,480
can't have any success with failing. And people just don't

1143
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:04,840
want to hear that. And that probably goes back to

1144
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,880
the feminization thing where it's like you feel like if

1145
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,639
you fail, you're it's like, oh, I'm I'm a you know,

1146
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,920
I'm weak. Somewhile it's like no, actually, it's a lot more.

1147
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:23,119
It's a lot weaker to not not even try and

1148
01:03:23,199 --> 01:03:25,440
to just give up at this point. Yeah, the black

1149
01:03:25,519 --> 01:03:30,000
pilling is Yeah, I mean I moved to where I

1150
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:35,800
moved because I just feel like being here, it's a

1151
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,519
lot easier to operate in the world than it was

1152
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:43,679
than it is in a city. And I don't have

1153
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:48,119
any ties to cities, you know, I know people. I'm

1154
01:03:48,119 --> 01:03:51,440
going to talk to a buddy of mine about cities

1155
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:56,960
possibly next week, I think, And yeah, he lives in

1156
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:01,119
a city and he's talked about taking cities back, and

1157
01:04:01,199 --> 01:04:03,280
we're going to talk about, you know what, his how

1158
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:06,519
he would plan to do that. But you know, it

1159
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:11,480
comes down to it, it's it's hard to if if

1160
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,719
that's your goal. You know, you don't want to have

1161
01:04:13,719 --> 01:04:16,559
a family, you know, you don't even you might not

1162
01:04:16,599 --> 01:04:18,920
even want to have a wife because you're putting yourself

1163
01:04:19,519 --> 01:04:21,880
you know, you're putting a painting a bullseye on yourself.

1164
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,880
But I mean that's just stuff that takes. It just

1165
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:28,519
takes will. It takes will, It takes, it takes effort

1166
01:04:28,639 --> 01:04:31,800
to you know, be like all right, well, I mean, yeah,

1167
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:36,039
this small town I live in is great, but that

1168
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:40,000
doesn't mean people, you know, because it's so insular, someone

1169
01:04:40,039 --> 01:04:43,079
can sneak in from the outside and can start really

1170
01:04:43,119 --> 01:04:47,119
fucking ship up. So maybe we need to you know,

1171
01:04:47,159 --> 01:04:50,960
set it up so that we can you know, be

1172
01:04:51,119 --> 01:04:55,360
on guard for that. And yeah, it's just at this point,

1173
01:04:55,440 --> 01:05:00,800
it's all just getting off your ass and doing doing stuff,

1174
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:04,639
and you know, part of that is getting together with people.

1175
01:05:04,679 --> 01:05:06,719
And I think that was you know, one of the

1176
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best things about the event, the event in Oregon and

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any event I've gone to, you know, the Old Glory

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Club's events, our national events the last couple of years,

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and our local events here is you're around people who

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are like, Okay, what are you doing. Oh that's awesome.

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You know what kind of ideas you have? Yeah, I

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want to do this. I mean, was on the phone

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yesterday with someone. He's like, yeah, I was just basically

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messing around and I built this. What do you think

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we can do with it? And I'm like, what can't

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we do with it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like holy shit. I mean it's like

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you just built something that, I mean, are is going

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to help our guys and help our guys in ways

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that are you know where you know for certain things

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you'll be canceled proof.

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Speaker 2: H m hmm.

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Speaker 1: It's like Okay, Yeah, how many people are concentrating on

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that and yeah, and that's just someone who's like, hey,

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I just need, you know, get down the phone with me,

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you know, a couple of minutes of your time. What

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do you think. I'm like, I think you're knocking it

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out of the fucking park. Yeah, it's just it's it's

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amazing what you can what you can accomplish if you

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just stop looking at the stop looking at the world,

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stop looking at national politics, stop looking at you know,

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all of this, and just be like, you know, be

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aware of it because it can be dangerous and it

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can affect you, but you're not going to let it

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stop you. Nothing, it's gonna nothing's going to stop us.

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Speaker 2: There are a few things I find more invigorating, Pete

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than these, you know, these get togethers with guys, because

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it's such a positive thing. I mean, especially after this

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most recent one, I was really impressed with every guy

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that I met. A lot of people. It's some very

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interesting things is going on. I have, you know, grown

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fonder of the local guys. I've started to build better

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relationships with them. I don't see them as often I

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would like, especially the Portland guys, but there really are

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an amazing group of young men, and it's just it

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brings just such joy to see, you know, these things

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going on and these guys getting together and just sharing

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the same passions that I have, just this desire to build.

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As I said, there is this energy, There is this undercurrent.

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This is one of those things where you know, a

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lot of times, you know, I know, you and a

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lot of the guys that you talk about will talk

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about kind of civilizational energy. And you know, I've heard

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people talk about this and people saying, oh, well, the

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West is spent or christ and Dunn is done, and

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I quite frankly, I don't think that's the case. I

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still think there's something there. It just needs to be

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tapped into. Trump is a demonstration of that. And I

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don't know how much time left there is. I don't know.

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But again I don't want to sound overly optimistic, but

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I do sense something there. There are these undercurrents of

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just people desperately wanting something better but not knowing what

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it is that they want. Again, as we talked about,

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they just they need to be led. But you know,

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going back briefly to getting off your ass and doing things,

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it I think One of the big issues with a

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lot of guys in just I think in general, is

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that there's a lack of sense of purpose, and thus

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doing the things that we've already talked about will give you.

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It starts to help you understand your place in the world,

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and it gives you that general sense of purpose, and

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I think that that's incredibly important for starting to build

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that desire and the will that you're talking about. It's

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it's really hard when you're you know, you're sitting on

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your ass listening to how the world is ending, or

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this or that thing didn't pass in the Senate to

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want to get up and do something right. You just

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why would you have the willders there's no reason for

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you to do anything because there's nothing you can affect.

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But you know, if you're going and working at your

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local home the shelter, or you're donating money, or you're

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helping your neighbor build this thing, and you're seeing the

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tangible effects of your your efforts manifest themselves in the

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real world, that over time is going to build the

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will and the desire to continue pushing. And it also

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gives you that sense of purpose. I mean, these things

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all happen at the same time.

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Speaker 1: All right, Darrendal, I really appreciate you coming on good talk.

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I I question whether you know we talked about a

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lot of things, and we also got a lot off

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of our chest. He's getting a lot off of our chest. Feminine.

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Speaker 2: No, there's much more to being a man than than just,

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you know, beating the shit out of somebody and yelling

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and all that. I think that sometimes people need to

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be told the truth, or at least you know, some

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things need to be set and hopefully some people listen

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and you know that it's actionable what we've said the night.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, all right, plug away, I know what you're

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gonna plug that?

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, yep. So if anybody wants to check us out,

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you know I have no digital footprint. The most part.

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I publish an article and I've got a couple of

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my speeches over at the Cascade Frontier Substack. It's a

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great place find great work. And then also over on

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x we've got Skilo's rising. This is one of our

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best guys. He's an incredible guy, great mind, a lot

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of energy, and he's got lots of great stuff that

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he posts on there. So if anybody wants to go

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check those things out, I'd highly recommend it.

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Speaker 1: All right, I appreciate it, Thank you, and yah it's

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old the next time.

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Speaker 2: Take care you too, CPE