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Speaker 2: You hear me say this pretty often that although I
Speaker 2: mentioned weather every now and then on the show, I
Speaker 2: mean it's pretty normal, I would say in broadcasting. But
Speaker 2: where we are I learn that really more so in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, because I've been on the air in this
Speaker 2: building where we are broadcasting, really in my own cave.
Speaker 2: I was doing mornings here for a little while, and
Speaker 2: then I've been in the afternoons for almost two years now.
Speaker 2: But for some reason, in the afternoon, like you really
Speaker 2: see how different weather can be, and you know when
Speaker 2: you haven't seen outside for you know, four and a
Speaker 2: half five hours. So I'm meant to during the break
Speaker 2: there go run and check and see if we have
Speaker 2: snow coming down.
Speaker 3: And then I realize where we are.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't really be able to tell anyway, because we're
Speaker 2: inside here at four Street Live. But I don't know
Speaker 2: where everybody's listening, hopefully all across the world, but if
Speaker 2: you're in the region, sounds like there's some snow north
Speaker 2: of us, maybe even right now outside here in Louisville.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to be anything crazy as
Speaker 2: far as the amount of snow, but winter is here again.
Speaker 2: I can't tell you if it's snow and right now,
Speaker 2: I can't tell you, you know, if it's sunny, or if
Speaker 2: it's gloomy, or if it's dark. But I do know
Speaker 2: that it's cold because I was outside today and I
Speaker 2: talked about this at the beginning of the show.
Speaker 3: Usually I'm ready for cold weather.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't like being brutally cold, but usually
Speaker 2: I you know, I'm not somebody that just knows cold
Speaker 2: weather's gonna be there and I'm gonna be miserable. But
Speaker 2: today I'm like, man, if this is the first day
Speaker 2: of cold weather, it's mid and is now late November,
Speaker 2: I've gotten soft because I'm not built for the cold
Speaker 2: weather like I once was, because hey, this is the fifties,
Speaker 2: this isn't that bad. And then I realized, oh, the
Speaker 2: chills crazy. It felt like twenty two degrees at one
Speaker 2: point earlier today, So yeah, the cold weather is here.
Speaker 2: We had to turn on the heat in our house
Speaker 2: for the first time.
Speaker 3: You guys done that?
Speaker 4: Really? Yes, it's always cold in our house.
Speaker 5: Anyway, So I'm always turning the AC off, but I
Speaker 5: had to turn on the heat this morning.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was it was cold out there, man, So
Speaker 2: stay warm, everybody. And you know, if you are somebody
Speaker 2: that gets the seasonal depression, I get it.
Speaker 3: It's a real thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I get like depressed when the
Speaker 2: good weather gets here in the spring. I think that
Speaker 2: my like seasonal depression is more so off of sports
Speaker 2: season and not like seasons of the weather, because yeah,
Speaker 2: once once really Derby's over, I realize.
Speaker 3: What is my life?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and I hate to say that, because,
Speaker 2: like you know, I do have a life, and I'm
Speaker 2: very fortunate, and there are things much bigger to me
Speaker 2: in the world than sports. But I guess not that
Speaker 2: many things, because it is like, what am I supposed
Speaker 2: to do other than you know, the obvious things like,
Speaker 2: you know, take care of my children and you know,
Speaker 2: provide for my family. What am I supposed to do
Speaker 2: when college basketball's over and football's over and the you know,
Speaker 2: the Derby season is coming gone. So you guys are
Speaker 2: probably really bummed that we're here. I'm actually really happy.
Speaker 2: So yeah, my condolences to you. But I'll be I'll
Speaker 2: be right there in your shoes before you know it.
Speaker 2: Because I can't believe how quick everything goes by. How
Speaker 2: is it almost five? I'm like saying, crazy, man. I
Speaker 2: know I say that all the time and I'm a
Speaker 2: broken record, but it's just the truth. That's what I'm
Speaker 2: paid to do, is to tell you my honest opinions
Speaker 2: and and things that you know come to mind. And
Speaker 2: it comes to mind to me a lot that life
Speaker 2: goes by way too fast. So let's enjoy what we can.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: Does your car have because you do have the nice
Speaker 5: Volkswagen and it is all finally fixed. Autism tried to
Speaker 5: kill it, but on the biggest piece of what I
Speaker 5: can find in this studio.
Speaker 3: But does it I'm such a joke. We said we're
Speaker 3: gonna be childish. Yeah the rest of the way.
Speaker 5: Well, get your I mean your mind out of the gutterry.
Speaker 5: Does your car have a push to start like or
Speaker 5: not to go out and physically start it?
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah?
Speaker 2: So I in fact I learned that during the UH
Speaker 2: during the rental phase whenever I was using a Volkswagen
Speaker 2: vvehicle while they were fixing mine. Thanks to AutoZone, who
Speaker 2: again tried to kill it. I realized that, like I would,
Speaker 2: I would take a while for me to get used
Speaker 2: to the keyless entry because I'm always programmed to just
Speaker 2: take my key out of my car and put it
Speaker 2: in my pocket and then you know I have it.
Speaker 2: But like I would get I wouldn't need to remove
Speaker 2: the key because you know, I didn't have to put
Speaker 2: it in anything to drive it, where I would just
Speaker 2: get out and leave the key in there and feel
Speaker 2: like I lost it, not remembering. So, you know, I
Speaker 2: have a newer car, but for some reason, like I
Speaker 2: don't know, it's almost like mine is. I guess it's
Speaker 2: not that rare. Mine's a twenty twenty, and I feel
Speaker 2: like most cars that range or newer, most of them
Speaker 2: are pushed to start. But I'm fine with my old school. Baby,
Speaker 2: Don't I like.
Speaker 4: Cranking the key?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, putting it into the ignition right.
Speaker 2: And so like I I mean, it was like you're
Speaker 2: it feels like you're honestly like using your muscle to
Speaker 2: start your car and not pushing a button.
Speaker 4: Right, It's it just starts off pure.
Speaker 3: Man American muscle.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 5: My, I mean, I've been without a car for a
Speaker 5: minute now. Because you still don't have your volts wine. No, No,
Speaker 5: that's it's it's done. No, I had to sell it,
Speaker 5: so me and the girlfriend are kind of trading off
Speaker 5: her car. She works from home like ninety five percent
Speaker 5: of the time anyways, but she's got like a four Nissan,
Speaker 5: so it's still the old school with like the key
Speaker 5: that you put.
Speaker 4: In actually into the ignition.
Speaker 5: But I've been spoiled because my mom got a brand
Speaker 5: new Nissan not that long ago, and it's just she
Speaker 5: can literally start the car from like inside the house.
Speaker 4: And when you're just talking.
Speaker 5: About weather, it's it's it's that weather to where I
Speaker 5: have to run outside real quick, start the car, get
Speaker 5: in the freezing car, then run back in.
Speaker 4: I'll finish what I'm doing and then But.
Speaker 5: I just envy everybody that has one of those push
Speaker 5: to starts, or just the one from the key where
Speaker 5: you could just start it up from from inside your house.
Speaker 5: Cause and I'm pretty sure we talked about this in
Speaker 5: the summer, doing the dog days of the ninety degree humidity,
Speaker 5: I hate getting into a car when it's just been
Speaker 5: any types of weather.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, I was literally getting ready to say
Speaker 2: that I've had our first house did not have a garage,
Speaker 2: and the last two that we by the way, I
Speaker 2: don't I don't own three houses. I've bought one, sold one,
Speaker 2: and sold another, and my wife each time just made
Speaker 2: a rational decision, Yeah we're moving, and then we did,
Speaker 2: and I just do what she tells me.
Speaker 3: So we got you know, we probably still live in
Speaker 3: our first house.
Speaker 2: If it was me that had to like initiate things
Speaker 2: because I just you know, in my own world, in
Speaker 2: my own bubble. But getting a garage was awesome because one,
Speaker 2: you know, I think people would prefer to have a
Speaker 2: garage rather than not. But I never realized that the
Speaker 2: biggest benefit of garage is not about space or storage
Speaker 2: or you know, the look, because they can certainly make
Speaker 2: a home look nice. Sure, it's because of what you
Speaker 2: just mentioned. Like in the summer, my car, you know,
Speaker 2: when it's one hundred degrees outside and I go in
Speaker 2: the morning to get in my car or in the afternoon,
Speaker 2: it's not cool in my car, but it's nowhere near
Speaker 2: what it's like if it had been baking in the sun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's shaded.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the in the winter time, again, I got
Speaker 2: to turn my heat on. But man, if my car
Speaker 2: was out there in the hold, whether not in a garage,
Speaker 2: I mean, depending on where I'm going, even my car,
Speaker 2: which again is relatively newer, it would it would take
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't be warm and comfortable until you know,
Speaker 2: maybe what I maybe to the time I pulled in
Speaker 2: the parking lot of wherever I was going. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that's and when I think of like, man if I
Speaker 2: didn't have a garage, what I would miss? I would
Speaker 2: miss that more than anything.
Speaker 5: And you also have the thing where everyone does, and
Speaker 5: a pure procrastinator knows exactly what I'm talking about, where
Speaker 5: they're either trying to get to work on time, so
Speaker 5: they're like they have just where the whole windshield is
Speaker 5: still has ice on it. Oh yeah, and then you
Speaker 5: just got to carve out that little enough in the
Speaker 5: tunnel where you can.
Speaker 2: You've given you you've given yourself very little time to
Speaker 2: where you literally just are gonna have time to carve
Speaker 2: out one window, a little space to where you can
Speaker 2: see something, to where you don't wreck and it's still
Speaker 2: dangerous and you might even get pulled over if the
Speaker 2: cops see you. But hey, shout out to the procrastinators
Speaker 2: because I've been there before. That's right, I've done it.
Speaker 2: In fact, I usually push it so close for for time,
Speaker 2: and I look, I'm sure if my wife, if my
Speaker 2: family they're listening, you know, they'll tell you you're full
Speaker 2: of crap. You're late all the time, because I look,
Speaker 2: I'm not the most punctual, but I have for the
Speaker 2: most part managed like places I go, maybe not regularly,
Speaker 2: but like like I know what kind of time I need, Like,
Speaker 2: for example, whenever I leave the house to get my
Speaker 2: daughter to school, she's got to be there by eight thirty.
Speaker 2: If my wife is still at home and we leave
Speaker 2: for school, she's like, or do I need.
Speaker 3: To send a note? Do we need to check her in?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, chill, like, you don't, don't you don't
Speaker 2: know how I got this down, Like there's no way
Speaker 2: we're gonna be like we're gonna get We're gonna walk
Speaker 2: to that door at eight twenty nine and she's gonna
Speaker 2: be right on time. Like so I usually am am
Speaker 2: on time for the most part. But I do have
Speaker 2: a story about, you know, pushing it close like I
Speaker 2: always have, and it led to me getting pulled over.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't because of ice, so whenever I was
Speaker 2: in high school. I don't know why this became a thing.
Speaker 2: Like I know that, you know, you're not as mature
Speaker 2: when you're when you're a teenager as you are when
Speaker 2: you're a grown adult like I am now, although some
Speaker 2: people probably don't think of me as a grown adult,
Speaker 2: but I am, uh, you know kind of. But we
Speaker 2: would not, you know, I can't say that I didn't
Speaker 2: do it myself a time or two, but I don't
Speaker 2: know how it became a thing. But we would prank
Speaker 2: our friends or just people we went to school with
Speaker 2: there maybe sometimes even strangers because we were dumb idiots.
Speaker 2: But doing that, you know, pranking people is not why
Speaker 2: we were dumb. It's the prank that we did. It
Speaker 2: was rather harmless, but it was so childish and immature,
Speaker 2: and like why we thought it was funny, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I can't say what we called it because you know,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be appropriate on the radio. But it rhymes
Speaker 2: with my name but starts with a D. We would
Speaker 2: call it that that in that in something like Hey
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go that word somebody's car.
Speaker 2: It meant that you would take window chalk like that.
Speaker 2: You would, you know, put on a car to put
Speaker 2: a price tag on it or to you know, or congratulations, yeah, graduates.
Speaker 3: We would we would draw.
Speaker 2: Chefts, I mean, you know, and we just thought we
Speaker 2: would just we would think it was funny that somebody
Speaker 2: would come out to their car after work or after
Speaker 2: school or maybe when they leave in the morning, and
Speaker 2: there'd be a big, you know, a big male body
Speaker 2: part on on their on their windshield or on their
Speaker 2: driver's side, uh door like window. And again, why we
Speaker 2: did it, I don't know, but it's funny. We thought
Speaker 2: it was funny. We were childish, and all I was
Speaker 2: I was really late one morning it was actually fall break.
Speaker 2: Basketball practice had just started. We had practice during the
Speaker 2: day because school was out, and I woke up late
Speaker 2: already and I knew I had to be at the gym.
Speaker 2: And I walked out and they got me, and I had,
Speaker 2: you know, I had them everywhere.
Speaker 4: I had one.
Speaker 2: I had one on the in the in the rear
Speaker 2: view a window or the review window, and then I
Speaker 2: had one on each side of each door, and then
Speaker 2: one on the wind shield.
Speaker 4: I mean, and you know what.
Speaker 2: Wasn't much coverage, so I just wiped off like half
Speaker 2: of it, uh where I could see out of the
Speaker 2: wind shield and I could see because you know, they
Speaker 2: didn't it didn't completely cover the entire window.
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a block of ice.
Speaker 2: But you know, I could see well enough, and I
Speaker 2: wasn't worried about getting it cleaned up, and I wasn't
Speaker 2: worried about, you know, looking like a fool, because I
Speaker 2: didn't want to be late to practice, you know, that's
Speaker 2: the last thing I wanted. But by leaving these you know,
Speaker 2: big penises drawn on the window of my car, I
Speaker 2: got pulled over Bullet County. You know, you can't be
Speaker 2: driving around like that, and I expect for the for
Speaker 2: the Bullet County brass to cut you know, pull you
Speaker 2: over and let you know that you know you can't
Speaker 2: you can't do that.
Speaker 3: Uh So I ended up being late anyway.
Speaker 2: And then when I explained to my coach what happened,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, I'm sure he was like, what
Speaker 2: is wrong with your generation? And he had a valid
Speaker 2: question and I can't give you a good answer. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that was a long win in way of me saying, yeah,
Speaker 2: shout out to us procrastinators out there. Yeah, probably not
Speaker 2: a good trait to have, but you know, we we
Speaker 2: make it work.
Speaker 4: And shafted from the front and the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was. It was everywhere, man, it was.
Speaker 2: And again, many years later, I still wonder why we
Speaker 2: thought that was so funny, but.
Speaker 3: You know we did.
Speaker 4: I think you're just giving me some ideas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you could get away with it, and yeah you're
Speaker 2: an adult, but like you're younger than me. You know
Speaker 2: you can, you know, you can get away with a
Speaker 2: little more of the of the childish behavior and you know,
Speaker 2: probably not look as bad as me.
Speaker 3: But it's fun, isn't it. I don't want to grow up?
Speaker 4: You kidding me? Absolutely?
Speaker 5: We used to get well, I guess this doesn't have
Speaker 5: to do with uh, what partisables or anything like that.
Speaker 4: You like that word.
Speaker 3: The big words are being thrown at me here.
Speaker 4: That's right, very big on this show.
Speaker 5: But like we used to Uh my friend bought a
Speaker 5: thing from Amazon and it was like a card that
Speaker 5: says congratulations, you parked like an a hole. And then
Speaker 5: just when people just were just like the slightest bit
Speaker 5: off the line, they would just set those on the
Speaker 5: windshield and that used to get people mad.
Speaker 4: All the time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but like that's also something that maybe you could
Speaker 2: chalk it up as childish behavior, but like I know
Speaker 2: grown adults that are old enough to be my grandparents
Speaker 2: that would do that if they could, because there's nothing
Speaker 2: worse than something like now you're making me look even worse.
Speaker 2: Mine was just childish, immature and gross. You know, you
Speaker 2: and your buddies are you know, potentially doing something that
Speaker 2: probably people are like, that's a damn good idea. I
Speaker 2: need to get some of those cards because there's people
Speaker 2: taking up two spots because they feel like their car
Speaker 2: is more valuable than others. They don't want somebody touching it.
Speaker 2: Those people are the worst, are they not?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: They are.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 5: When I worked at UPS, like we all shared the
Speaker 5: same community parking lot, and sometimes I mean, I guess
Speaker 5: there's people on our crew and in your group that
Speaker 5: if you came out last or if you weren't walking
Speaker 5: with the group, then they would set like a couple
Speaker 5: of like parking cones on your car and then just
Speaker 5: dump a bunch of trash on your car.
Speaker 3: So that's that's kind of that's that's over the line.
Speaker 4: That's me. That's over the line. I've done it a
Speaker 4: few times.
Speaker 3: Pouring trash on somebody's car. Yeah, and that's just well,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know.
Speaker 5: Like the someone's like McDonald's bag or like a coke
Speaker 5: thing in there and just kind.
Speaker 4: Of propped it up.
Speaker 3: It's not the worst thing.
Speaker 2: I get you made sure. It's not the worst thing
Speaker 2: missed off. No, I mean you mean like if somebody
Speaker 2: did it to you, Yeah, yeah, to me, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, but you did it as well. But yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a good feeling about doing it for someone else.
Speaker 2: You have to go with the penises next time. Yeah,
Speaker 2: roll with that instead of the trash that was you know.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, that probably won't make him as angry. They'll
Speaker 2: probably be like, what whos did this?
Speaker 4: Like this? What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 3: What message are they sending me?
Speaker 2: You may not want to get caught being the one
Speaker 2: who did that, because they may think that you might
Speaker 2: have meant, you know, something else. But anyways, let's get
Speaker 2: this thing back on the rails. Better late than never.
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Speaker 2: On Sports Talk seven ninety we did talk some high
Speaker 2: school football recruiting, and typically that would not be something
Speaker 2: you'd expect to hear on this show, and I wouldn't
Speaker 2: really know how to make it a really entertaining topic.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't about any players specifically in the recruiting ranks,
Speaker 2: So it's more so just about Louisville's current situation with
Speaker 2: high school recruits. So they lost to recruit today from
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five class, which drops them now to
Speaker 2: eleven commitments in twenty twenty five. And even before this
Speaker 2: commitment or this de commitment and another de commitment last week,
Speaker 2: they were already ranked last in the ACC which there's
Speaker 2: no way to say that and it not sound, I
Speaker 2: mean look like that's something that you never want to
Speaker 2: see and that's like's just hard for me to think
Speaker 2: there's any scenario where that's not a really bad look.
Speaker 2: You don't want to be last. So it's prettye opening.
Speaker 2: But depending upon how these rankings are put together, it
Speaker 2: may actually not be as bad as you'd think, because
Speaker 2: if it's rankings like they're typically put together based more
Speaker 2: on quan quality or i'm sorry, quantity and quality, then
Speaker 2: you know that's how you could end up. You could
Speaker 2: have a good class with an average rating that's pretty solid.
Speaker 2: But if you only have eleven and everybody in your
Speaker 2: conference has twenty something, then you're probably going to be
Speaker 2: towards the bottom. That's just how it works. So again,
Speaker 2: doesn't look great, and I'm choosing to believe. I can't
Speaker 2: prove it, but I'm choosing to believe that would happened
Speaker 2: against Stanford. Maybe the most embarrassing loss as far as
Speaker 2: how it happened is one of the worst losses ever
Speaker 2: for Louisville fans. I mean, that's it's still something I
Speaker 2: can't wrap my head around as far as it happening
Speaker 2: the way it did. So that doesn't help when it
Speaker 2: comes to the recruiting rankings being not good and then
Speaker 2: losing commitments. But if you consider where they're losing recruits
Speaker 2: and who these guys are, it makes sense. And the
Speaker 2: one today that decommitted as a running back, I mean
Speaker 2: imagine seeing Duke Watson and Isaac Brown, one of the
Speaker 2: best running backs in the country regardless of class. Like,
Speaker 2: if you're committed to come to Louisville next season and
Speaker 2: these two guys are killing it as true freshmen right now,
Speaker 2: I would be concerned about your mental health if you
Speaker 2: didn't decommit.
Speaker 3: I mean, I say that jokingly.
Speaker 2: But like you gotta really just love lot all that much,
Speaker 2: or you have to be that confident in your game
Speaker 2: to where you're not worried about, you know, playing time
Speaker 2: when it comes to a guy coming back just a
Speaker 2: year ahead of you that is an All American caliber player,
Speaker 2: so you know that. Again, Tommy's not great. I'm not
Speaker 2: saying that losing a recruit is ever something you're happy about,
Speaker 2: but I mean it makes sense that this kid would decommit.
Speaker 2: And I think Jeff Brohm is going to always lean
Speaker 2: more so on the biggest addition to his roster every
Speaker 2: offseason will be from the portal rather than from the
Speaker 2: high school recruiting ranks. Maybe there's years where it's not
Speaker 2: the case, but I think he is good at using
Speaker 2: the portal. He's proven that again louisll didn't lose to Stanford.
Speaker 2: Like Louis those issues this year. I mean, maybe you
Speaker 2: could chalk it up to where they're making mental mistakes
Speaker 2: and they have shortfalls because they're all playing together for
Speaker 2: the first time this season. Their experience is there, but
Speaker 2: it's not together like it's all new maybe you could
Speaker 2: claim that's the case, but I don't believe that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can't prove that, but I don't think Louisville this
Speaker 2: year is losing games the way they are because of
Speaker 2: having too many guys in the from the portal, and
Speaker 2: in fact, louis is good. Louisville is good, and you're
Speaker 2: more frustrated about the season being where it is because
Speaker 2: you know, they went to the portal and got really
Speaker 2: good players like Jacry Brooks, who, by the way, is
Speaker 2: a finalist for the Blinking Off Award. I think that's
Speaker 2: the award that that I don't know now I got
Speaker 2: to look it up. It's not even relevant because we
Speaker 2: all know Jacory Brooks is great, but he is a
Speaker 2: finalist for one of the awards that goes to the
Speaker 2: best receivers in the countries, meaning he's now I think
Speaker 2: one of you know by this bullet cast, is it yet, right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean, I know that's an award, but I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's for a receiver or not. I could
Speaker 2: be wrong, but either way, it doesn't matter. He's up
Speaker 2: for the big award that goes to the best receiver
Speaker 2: in the country, meaning he's one of the best receivers
Speaker 2: in the country. So you have him and Chuck and
Speaker 2: you got him in the portal. I mean, Brooks may
Speaker 2: be one of the most talented receivers we've ever had here.
Speaker 2: Like that sounds crazy and it sounds like some recency bias,
Speaker 2: but like you can tell he was a five star recruit.
Speaker 2: You can tell he was a really good player at
Speaker 2: Bama until he got hurt in law to spot because
Speaker 2: they have other really good players.
Speaker 4: It is a wide receiver reward.
Speaker 2: Okay, God, should I just trusted my gut, But anyways,
Speaker 2: like the portal has not been a problem for Louis
Speaker 2: for the.
Speaker 3: Last couple of years.
Speaker 2: It's been a factor and why you've had good years
Speaker 2: and this year is not as good as last year,
Speaker 2: but it's not because of the portal. So you never
Speaker 2: want to see your school in dead last in recruiting
Speaker 2: rankings because recruiting still doesn't matter, but it's not the
Speaker 2: end all, be all, and right now, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think Jeff Brown would be fine with taking a really
Speaker 2: small class every year if he can pull off getting
Speaker 2: guys like Isaac Brown and Duke Watson. So you know,
Speaker 2: I wasn't even thinking about it. But somebody made a
Speaker 2: point that coaches will use it against you in recruiting
Speaker 2: high school players, that hey, why would you go there?
Speaker 2: He never even you never, He doesn't even emphasize freshmen.
Speaker 2: He only goes to the portal. The majority of his
Speaker 2: roster newcomers are going to be transfers that are you know, four,
Speaker 2: four or five years older than you. Yeah, you can
Speaker 2: use that against brom but BROMP can also say, yeah,
Speaker 2: but look at Isaac Isaac Brown and Duke Watson and oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, also, you know, look at the small
Speaker 2: class that I bring in and know that we don't
Speaker 2: go after just anybody. We'll go after guys who we
Speaker 2: know are ready to play, so come and play for us.
Speaker 2: And that may not be the truth, like maybe it
Speaker 2: will take these guys some time, but like you can,
Speaker 2: you can spin it whichever way you want. So I
Speaker 2: think you know two things as to why this has
Speaker 2: become a legitimate talking point where fans are worried about recruiting.
Speaker 2: One of those one of those reasons is because this
Speaker 2: is still relatively new. We're not used to seeing recruiting
Speaker 2: rankings and seeing them be this bad and thinking, oh
Speaker 2: my god, we're gonna like we're gonna we're gonna suck. Well, no,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean it doesn't mean you're gonna suck at all.
Speaker 2: You could be really good. But another factor is because
Speaker 2: of what happened on Saturday, you won't convince me otherwise.
Speaker 2: All right, quick break, We'll talk about the college football
Speaker 2: plaoff rankings coming up here on the other side, because
Speaker 2: everybody's yelling about the same few teams Texas and Indiana
Speaker 2: making the case for teams like BYU and Boise State
Speaker 2: as well as SMU on my side, but there are
Speaker 2: some teams that have some crazy stats and facts about
Speaker 2: their resume as of now that I'm not saying these
Speaker 2: should be talked about more than the others, but I
Speaker 2: think it'll let you know that because of this new
Speaker 2: format and how they go about it, you're gonna have
Speaker 2: all kinds of teams that are in contention that you
Speaker 2: look at the resume top to bottom and you don't
Speaker 2: feel like they're worthy of it because we're still used
Speaker 2: to it being four teams. They got up a twelve
Speaker 2: in and there's gonna be a lot of teams fighting
Speaker 2: for a handful of spots, and they got you know,
Speaker 2: some people are gonna.
Speaker 3: Get left out. All right, stick with us.
Speaker 2: We'll finish strong here in the five o'clock hour. I
Speaker 2: had fun, though hopefully you guys didn't, you know, get
Speaker 2: too turned off by our childish humor.
Speaker 1: There.
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Speaker 2: All right, we'll go back to the text line before
Speaker 2: we get out of here. And also, I want to
Speaker 2: revisit the college football playoff rankings, and really it isn't
Speaker 2: about the rankings. It's just about a guess to the field,
Speaker 2: those that are still alive for a spot on this
Speaker 2: twelve team playoff. There's some facts about teams that nobody's
Speaker 2: talking about. That Again, I don't think it proves really anything.
Speaker 2: It's just that what you're doing with Miami, what you're
Speaker 2: doing with Texas and Indiana, you know, you could do
Speaker 2: the same thing with a lot of these teams. Maybe
Speaker 2: not for the same reason, but there's things you could
Speaker 2: pick apart that you'd be like, wait a second, that
Speaker 2: doesn't add up. How are they ranked here? Whether it
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Speaker 2: So before we get to the text line, I do
Speaker 2: want to share these numbers because you know, I feel
Speaker 2: like I've talked about it here and there to where
Speaker 2: maybe I've overplayed it to where it's not as interesting
Speaker 2: as I think it is. But when it comes to
Speaker 2: teams that are still alive in the playoff, let's see here,
Speaker 2: let me pull it up. By the way, this is
Speaker 2: a great I love finding information on Twitter.
Speaker 3: For the show.
Speaker 2: In fact, it's probably my biggest resource as far as
Speaker 2: favoriting a tweet or sending it to myself into direct messages,
Speaker 2: because I want to make sure that I've got it
Speaker 2: here to reference on the show. Well, this this account,
Speaker 2: it is Vern dumb Quist, like a parody college football account,
Speaker 2: but they actually crank out some pretty good information and
Speaker 2: of course it's hence the name of Verne Lundquist.
Speaker 3: In fact, I lied.
Speaker 2: I just thought Vern dumb Quist was the name of
Speaker 2: a parody account that is the handle, but it's actually
Speaker 2: a guy named Chris Marler who I follow and I
Speaker 2: see as good content, but I didn't realize that he's
Speaker 2: actually he's a radio host himself. But he puts together
Speaker 2: graphics that are really cool in formative that you know,
Speaker 2: you know, that make it easier for me to prepare
Speaker 2: for my show. So thank you, mister vern dum quid
Speaker 2: Chris Marler. But when you look at stats in facts
Speaker 2: of the contenders here for the college football playoff, so
Speaker 2: this is something you probably did know because a lot
Speaker 2: of people have talked about Indiana. They've only played one
Speaker 2: team with a winning record all year, So take away
Speaker 2: the fact that they're not getting really really good wins
Speaker 2: and they don't have any To be honest with you,
Speaker 2: but the teams they're beating aren't even like average.
Speaker 3: They're all bad.
Speaker 2: Even the teams that were you know, nonpower comp like
Speaker 2: non Big ten games, like those teams are bad for
Speaker 2: who they are. And it doesn't mean Indiana isn't good.
Speaker 2: It also isn't as convincing to believe that they're good
Speaker 2: knowing that, like they've beaten up on everybody and they're undefeated,
Speaker 2: but they hasn't let me again strength of schedule comes
Speaker 2: up so often as if it proves anything, and it doesn't, because,
Speaker 2: in fact, Michigan is the best example. Michigan had the
Speaker 2: same type of schedule that Indiana did until the very
Speaker 2: end last year. Now, they ended up playing Penn State
Speaker 2: and then they played Ohio State, so therefore they did
Speaker 2: have two really good opponents. Indiana is only gonna have one,
Speaker 2: and that's what High State this weekend. So but Michigan,
Speaker 2: everybody knew they were really good and thought they were
Speaker 2: championship contenders, and they won the whole thing, but nobody
Speaker 2: brought up the fact that their schedule was insanely light
Speaker 2: until the very end of the year. So string of
Speaker 2: the schedule doesn't prove, you know, it just it leaves
Speaker 2: open the opportunity for people to question if your results
Speaker 2: are as impressive as the you know, as the numbers
Speaker 2: make them look. So again, Indiana has an awful schedule.
Speaker 2: That's not a debate, that's not a conversation. That's the facts.
Speaker 2: Are they actually as good as you know? Some Indiana
Speaker 2: fans choose to believe they're gonna find out soon enough,
Speaker 2: But it is crazy to think that they didn't just
Speaker 2: get a light schedule they got. I mean it's in
Speaker 2: you know again, it's not their fault, doesn't mean they're
Speaker 2: not great, but like facts are facts. Also Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: I don't know why Notre Dame. We had somebody calling
Speaker 2: yesterday and bring up like them being undeserving a team
Speaker 2: that's gonna end up getting in because they're not in
Speaker 2: a conference and they've got a really good record and
Speaker 2: their Notre Dame, but they don't have a shot of
Speaker 2: winning the whole thing.
Speaker 3: And I totally agree.
Speaker 2: But usually Notre Dame is the team everybody's complaining about
Speaker 2: because they would get in and steal a four team
Speaker 2: playoff spot, or they play for a national championship during
Speaker 2: the BCS era, and everybody would claim it's because they're
Speaker 2: you know, they're not in a conference. Why are we
Speaker 2: gonna do this? Anytime they get in the postseason at
Speaker 2: the high level, they get embarrassed. Are we doing this again?
Speaker 2: And now I think they're a target more than they've
Speaker 2: ever been. But yet all I'm hearing is Big ten
Speaker 2: fans in SEC fans yelling at each other, or the
Speaker 2: conversation about you know, the most deserving G five. So
Speaker 2: you know, Notre Dame they're in, but like I think
Speaker 2: they could be discussed as maybe the biggest. Like again,
Speaker 2: I don't know how good they are. They do have
Speaker 2: some decent wins that, in my opinion, you know, have
Speaker 2: lost a little bit of their luster. But like when
Speaker 2: they did have the NIU loss, when they beat Louisville,
Speaker 2: and Louisville ended up being a top twenty team, and
Speaker 2: Texas A and M has been a top twenty team
Speaker 2: really all year. That made it to where you didn't
Speaker 2: focus as much on the NIU loss, But I mean
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. They haven't played a true road game since
Speaker 2: Week three when they want it one and nine perdue,
Speaker 2: so you know, they have a you know, somewhat of
Speaker 2: a solid resume. But again, their best wins don't look
Speaker 2: as good as they did two weeks ago, and they
Speaker 2: have a glaringly bad loss that nobody else ever has.
Speaker 2: And yet again, I don't think people should claim that
Speaker 2: the NIU loss is like proof that.
Speaker 3: They shouldn't be in. But I'm surprised.
Speaker 2: It's not like I'm encouraging everybody to have this conversation,
Speaker 2: but I am surprised there hasn't been more people that
Speaker 2: realized if they played in a real league or any
Speaker 2: league in general. They don't play in a league at all,
Speaker 2: you'd have more like they'd have more opportunities to kind
Speaker 2: of really show if they're good or they're not. They're
Speaker 2: not playing in a conference. There's no consistency within their schedule.
Speaker 2: They don't have that extra data point to potentially take
Speaker 2: a loss and lose out. Like again, there's legitimate worry
Speaker 2: that whoever loses the SEC championship game is going to
Speaker 2: just to be eliminated. And those coaches in the SEC,
Speaker 2: of course, don't feel like that should be held against
Speaker 2: him because you know, they're playing in the SEC Championship.
Speaker 2: Like Notre Dame shouldn't be given the treatment that they're
Speaker 2: given by.
Speaker 3: The committee. I get why they do, but like they
Speaker 3: should be in a legue like everybody else. But that's
Speaker 3: just me.
Speaker 4: I know it's not just me.
Speaker 2: But again, if they were gonna be forced to go
Speaker 2: into a league, it would have happened long ago. All right,
Speaker 2: Boise State, a lot of people talking about Bois Right,
Speaker 2: They're looking like they're in pretty good shape to represent
Speaker 2: the g five. Six of their last eight games were
Speaker 2: against teams with four wins or less. So think about that. Now,
Speaker 2: they're not only you know, they're not only playing against
Speaker 2: teams that aren't very good, they're playing against teams that
Speaker 2: are terrible. And yet Boise again, we all know. Maybe
Speaker 2: the reason people are complaining about Bois as much is
Speaker 2: because you just know that they're probably gonna get take
Speaker 2: care of business and get in and there's really no debate,
Speaker 2: like there's not like again, that level gets a spot anyway,
Speaker 2: meaning nonpower leagues. So that's probably why they're not being taught. Like,
Speaker 2: if anything, I hear more people saying that they should
Speaker 2: be getting more love. I don't know if I agree
Speaker 2: with that, but with Boise, you know, somebody's gonna get
Speaker 2: that spot, regardless if it's State or anybody else. Like,
Speaker 2: that's not a spot that's going to go to somebody
Speaker 2: when it's all said and done. That is in the
Speaker 2: big ten of the sec of the acc of the
Speaker 2: Big twelve. Texas I think has turned in. I don't
Speaker 2: know why it took this long. I feel like a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago when we saw where Texas was slotted,
Speaker 2: it hit me that, yeah, their one loss is not
Speaker 2: a bad one. It's to Georgia. Who's great, but it
Speaker 2: wasn't that close. It was in Austin, Texas, and Texas
Speaker 2: has no good wins. So Texas right now, the only
Speaker 2: two teams that Texas has beat with a winning record
Speaker 2: Colorado State and Vandy. In Miami, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's because Miami, you know, Miami is is a team
Speaker 2: that people probably feel like has already eliminated themselves. They
Speaker 2: could get in, but like you know, I think Miami
Speaker 2: having so many near losses and then finally losing, I
Speaker 2: think people are just kind of writing them off.
Speaker 3: But I haven't heard a whole lot of like debate about.
Speaker 2: Where they are in the playoff rankings, if it's legit
Speaker 2: or if it's you know, if the ranked too high
Speaker 2: or too low. But they also again don't have it.
Speaker 2: I mean, they have two wins over teams with the
Speaker 2: winning with winning records, and their best win is now.
Speaker 2: This is sad for Louisville, but Miami's best win now
Speaker 2: is not Louisville. It's Duke, Who's seven and three where
Speaker 2: Louisville sits at six and four. Another thing when it
Speaker 2: comes to Texas, Texas six of Texas's eight SEC games
Speaker 2: this year, are against teams in the bottom seven of
Speaker 2: the SEC standings. I'm going to defend Texas like I'll
Speaker 2: defend Indiana. That's not a good look for Texas, Texas
Speaker 2: being ranked with AAR like but Texas, but again, these
Speaker 2: are similar situations. It doesn't prove really much of anything.
Speaker 2: But Texas is also gonna show us where they are
Speaker 2: when they take on Texas A and M in a
Speaker 2: couple of weeks, or if they lose to Kentucky. We'll
Speaker 2: find out on Saturday. Because that that happens, we know
Speaker 2: that they're not nearly as good as the rankings indicate.
Speaker 2: But it's not their fault that the seven, yeah, six
Speaker 2: of the eight teams they play in league player in
Speaker 2: the bottom seven of the conference. Like that doesn't mean
Speaker 2: they're bad. It's just, you know, hard for them to
Speaker 2: go out and prove that they're very good.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 3: Georgia, of course, is.
Speaker 2: A team that is still as dangerous as anybody like
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be shocked at all they win the whole thing,
Speaker 2: but you know, they have more losses than they typically
Speaker 2: have this time of year. They have their loss to
Speaker 2: Ole Miss, they have their loss to Alabama, and is
Speaker 2: that it I think that's it. But either way, they've
Speaker 2: played five games against current top twenty teams this year
Speaker 2: and only one of those was at home, So you know,
Speaker 2: Georgia has some losses, but man, they've played a damn
Speaker 2: tough schedule against really good teams. And this is really
Speaker 2: is It has nothing to do with the playoff, But like,
Speaker 2: if you want to know why people aren't giving Penn
Speaker 2: State the benefit of the doubt, because I look, Penn
Speaker 2: State always wins games they're supposed to win, never wins
Speaker 2: the tough game against a team that at the time
Speaker 2: they're believed to be like on par with. Like Penn
Speaker 2: State just feels like a wasted playoff spot because of
Speaker 2: James Franklin is now two and twelve against top twenty
Speaker 2: five teams on the road during his time at Penn State.
Speaker 2: Now top twenty five opponents on the road. Very few
Speaker 2: coaches are going to have a good record. But you're
Speaker 2: the coach of Penn State and you're two and twelve
Speaker 2: all time, Like you should be better than that. And
Speaker 2: that is why I think you've shown that you don't
Speaker 2: really deserve the benefit of the doubt to be expected
Speaker 2: to win those games in Penn State's resume is pretty
Speaker 2: lousy too, right, last one of them, we'll take our
Speaker 2: final break. Tennessee and Indiana have the two worst opponent
Speaker 2: win percentage of the entire power For Tennessee opponents rank
Speaker 2: one to seventeenth nationally with a forty two percent winning percentage,
Speaker 2: and Indiana ranks one hundred and twenty fifth when it
Speaker 2: comes to winning percentage. That is quite literally an example
Speaker 2: of brand and conference benefit of the doubt and biased
Speaker 2: Tennessee's Tennessee Joshippel has taken them to where they're now
Speaker 2: way better than they were for a long stretch. And
Speaker 2: they don't you know, they're not you know they're there.
Speaker 3: They're good.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying that they're frauds, but like you
Speaker 2: could pick apart their resume as well. If people don't
Speaker 2: do it because they're in the SEC and their Tennessee,
Speaker 2: it's Indiana. When people are wondering, you know, they weren't
Speaker 2: paying close attention to the thinking to themselves how the
Speaker 2: Indiana and up the playoff conversation? Wait kidding, Indiana is
Speaker 2: a top five team in football. You then go look
Speaker 2: at the schedule and say, okay, well that explains it
Speaker 2: they didn't play nobody, which again is true, but clearly
Speaker 2: they're good. Now how good they are again, we will
Speaker 2: find out when they go to Columbus, Ohio on Saturday,
Speaker 2: which I have no clue what to expect out of that,
Speaker 2: but what I do know is that that's got to
Speaker 2: be the biggest Indian football game of all time and
Speaker 2: probably not much competition, to be honest with you, all right,
Speaker 2: quick break, we'll come back on the other side, wrap
Speaker 2: this thing up, get you out of here. Coffee and Company.
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Speaker 2: Day, we are wrapping up the afternoon here, but tomorrow
Speaker 2: Friday good vibes of course, and also it's game day
Speaker 2: Louisville and Winthrop tomorrow night. So we didn't talk a
Speaker 2: whole lot about it in the five o'clock hour, but
Speaker 2: there was an Instagram post or I guess a story
Speaker 2: as technically what it was from Corain Johnson that has
Speaker 2: understandably made fans worry about him coming back sooner rather
Speaker 2: than later when it comes to that shoulder injury, and
Speaker 2: you know, I would imagine that, well, in fact, I
Speaker 2: would expect now just imagine that they'll He'll be asked
Speaker 2: that before the game, maybe by Paul Rodgers on the radio,
Speaker 2: or maybe after the game in the postgame press conference,
Speaker 2: or maybe Corn Johnson plays and like this is all
Speaker 2: for nothing. But he posted a picture that says and
Speaker 2: I wonder minor setback for a major comeback, which then
Speaker 2: he has like the praying emoji and says God's plan.
Speaker 2: So again, not an encouraging sign for somebody that has
Speaker 2: already injured and missed a game. And Pat Kelsey couldn't
Speaker 2: give us much of a timeline earlier this week. Maybe
Speaker 2: they got info that you know isn't good, but we
Speaker 2: won't know until we know, so you know, I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna act like this is good news. It's terrible news
Speaker 2: for everybody involved. And where I think you really one,
Speaker 2: you just lose, You lose an experienced guard, and you
Speaker 2: lose one of your guards that was going to play
Speaker 2: a lot of minutes regardless if he starts. But I
Speaker 2: think Koran, despite not really showing it a whole lot,
Speaker 2: I mean, he's shown it at times, but this is
Speaker 2: the PAC twelve Rookie of the Year or not Rookie Year,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, PAC twelve six man of the Year.
Speaker 3: So you know, he's as proven.
Speaker 2: And again, I don't know if you can compare the
Speaker 2: careers of you know, Chucky Hepburn and Cooran Johnson, because
Speaker 2: you know, both have have played at the higher level,
Speaker 2: higher levels than the majority of this roster, and both
Speaker 2: were good but in different ways. So I'm not saying
Speaker 2: that one is better than the other. I'm just saying
Speaker 2: Korn is as proven at you know it, being the
Speaker 2: player he is at this level as Chucky, so losing.
Speaker 3: Him would be a real big bummer.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no doubt and he's just when it
Speaker 2: comes to pure talent meaning and talent can mean a
Speaker 2: lot of different things for different people, So you know,
Speaker 2: I guess I'll try my best to explain what I
Speaker 2: mean when I say talent. I mean you can have
Speaker 2: good players that have talent, but like then, you can
Speaker 2: see guys who don't play a lot of minutes, but
Speaker 2: they're on a roster like Tennessee and they never have
Speaker 2: made a big impact, but they were highly ranked recruits
Speaker 2: because of talent. Because that's how you end up at
Speaker 2: a program like Tennessee. So you know, with that said,
Speaker 2: at times we're going to see guys on the Louisvels team,
Speaker 2: and we did against Tennessee. You realize, okay, yeah, that
Speaker 2: you know, I know why this guy probably had the
Speaker 2: numbers he had at the place he was that wasn't
Speaker 2: the same level of Tennessee. Corn is one of the
Speaker 2: guys you'd have to worry about that the least, not
Speaker 2: because he's a super talented guy that's going to play
Speaker 2: in the NBA, but because you know he's the former
Speaker 2: four star recruit himself.
Speaker 3: So it's not good news.
Speaker 2: But I will say, if there's something that can be
Speaker 2: taken from this that could potentially be beneficial down the line,
Speaker 2: it is that Pat Kelsey's now going to you know,
Speaker 2: have a backcourt that'll have a little bit more rhythm
Speaker 2: of anything, because there's just not those minutes to give out,
Speaker 2: Like you're not handing off Cooran Johnson's minutes to one
Speaker 2: specific guy. What you're gonna do is you know, rely
Speaker 2: on the other three guards a little bit more than.
Speaker 3: You typically do. So we'll see.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm talking as if it's already like confirmed
Speaker 2: that it's terrible news, and you know I don't know that, but.
Speaker 4: Don't know.
Speaker 3: We'll see, all right, you guys, have a good night.
Speaker 3: Stay warm. It's cold and it might be snowing, so
Speaker 3: be careful.
Speaker 4: Have a good night.