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Speaker 1: Edition at a Women's Society.
Speaker 2: Or Walking in the Shadows the Culturition.
Speaker 3: Welcome to Crypto Women's Society and our new series as
Speaker 3: Stories from the Arcane Library.
Speaker 2: I'm Juliette and I'm Lisa, and today's first episode is
Speaker 2: about Poltergeist. We are so excited to talk to you
Speaker 2: about this because we've had our own personal experiences.
Speaker 3: Right yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely had. We lived in
Speaker 3: a house in Wellington and Nio and we had a
Speaker 3: lot of activity, so we can't wait to kind of
Speaker 3: chat about that and also, you know, kind of other
Speaker 3: bits and pieces that we've learned.
Speaker 2: So yeah, one hundred percent, you know, and poltr guys
Speaker 2: can be really scary, and I think a lot of
Speaker 2: the media that we've had kind of dumped into our
Speaker 2: brains with Hollywood and that sort of stuff, is that
Speaker 2: poltergeists are evil and demonic and really really super scary.
Speaker 2: And I think one of the things that we want
Speaker 2: to talk to today about is kind of what sort
Speaker 2: of levels of Poltergeist activity there are and the differences
Speaker 2: between them. Not everything is demonic and not everything is
Speaker 2: super scary as Juliet keeps telling me and teaching me
Speaker 2: about you know, I'm not really well versed in the
Speaker 2: whole paranormal thing. Juliet is far more knowledgeable than I am,
Speaker 2: and so she's forever saying to me, not everything's bad, Lisa.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's it, you know.
Speaker 3: And you know, we had you know what we're saying,
Speaker 3: We had our own activity in the house, which was like,
Speaker 3: it was super scary, but it was also like you
Speaker 3: kind of got to the point where're like, we got again,
Speaker 3: ye yeah, yeah, and I think.
Speaker 2: We can tell them to just go away, right, We
Speaker 2: just got to the point where were like, seriously, dude,
Speaker 2: go away. You just didn't realize I'm tired, I want
Speaker 2: to go to sleep. I've had enough of you. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 2: but no, it's it's good.
Speaker 3: So looking into this, we did like a little bit
Speaker 3: of research and you know, kind of looking everything from
Speaker 3: you know, where does the word poltergeist come from? And
Speaker 3: pop culture and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: So one of the things that.
Speaker 3: We learned is that the weird polta guys originates from
Speaker 3: the German language, which is something that I did not know.
Speaker 3: So polta means to make a noise, and geist means
Speaker 3: spirit or ghost, so so polter guyst literally means noisy
Speaker 3: spirit or rattling ghost in English. So that's where the
Speaker 3: weird poltar ghist came from. So that's quite yeah. I
Speaker 3: found that quite interesting.
Speaker 2: So and I think, you know, there's been so many
Speaker 2: stories and encounters, you know, poltergeist or poltergeist activities been
Speaker 2: around for what eons generations all throughout the world, and
Speaker 2: it's not centered on one specific location. Globally, you get
Speaker 2: that sort of activity everywhere, right, And one of the
Speaker 2: interesting things that I kind of researched and found out
Speaker 2: was the viewpoint that poltergeist activity is attached to certain
Speaker 2: people of certain ages. And I thought that was really
Speaker 2: really interesting. And I don't know if that's correct, because
Speaker 2: the more I think about the theory around pre pubescent
Speaker 2: children and girls specifically that this poltergeist activity centered around,
Speaker 2: I think to myself, well, actually, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: poltergeist activity that is a centered around older women and
Speaker 2: men as well, And the stories that we're encountering and
Speaker 2: starting to be told makes me kind of question that
Speaker 2: theory altogether, that this poltergeist activity is really focused on
Speaker 2: these young their children. So what are your thoughts on there, Juliette.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's literally like, yeah, I don't think it's
Speaker 3: all down to pibcent girls and stuff like that, you know,
Speaker 3: and like we're saying from our own experiences, but also
Speaker 3: from encounters that you know, we've read about and heard about.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think, you know, there's there's possibly two
Speaker 3: sides of it, like you know, like there is with
Speaker 3: the activity, there could be some maybe some of it
Speaker 3: is demonic activity, some of it as polter guy, some
Speaker 3: of it as spirits, you know, or somebody just trying
Speaker 3: basically on the other side, trying to get our attention.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I don't think everything is malevolent. And yeah,
Speaker 3: so I mean that's kind of what we're gonna have
Speaker 3: a little little chat about and yeah, kind of have
Speaker 3: a have a few stories and kind of see where
Speaker 3: they fit, I reckon, Yeah, and see if we can
Speaker 3: make those connections, I guess, And I guess like this
Speaker 3: whole like this whole space, the supernatural space is.
Speaker 2: Really about kind of trying to find your own direction,
Speaker 2: find your own way, and how do you make these
Speaker 2: connections make sense with your belief systems, you know, and
Speaker 2: whether or not you believe in seances or ouiji boards
Speaker 2: or you know, anything kind of around that sort of space.
Speaker 2: It's how do I make those connections and what parts
Speaker 2: are relevant to me and what parts resonate with me?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So one of the things, sorry to interrupt
Speaker 2: you there, One of the things that I've been looking
Speaker 2: into as well, is is kinetic energy and how spirits
Speaker 2: use kinetic energy to you know, emf and that sort
Speaker 2: of stuff, to rimpods, to make spirit boxes work, to
Speaker 2: all of those sort of things where you have lights
Speaker 2: going off or music sounding. How do these spirits use
Speaker 2: the energy or how do they gather that energy to
Speaker 2: then create a poltergeist activity where something's flying across the
Speaker 2: room or you know, you see the these videos where
Speaker 2: these chairs are sliding across the room. I've never been
Speaker 2: experienced experienced anything like that before, Thank goodness. I think
Speaker 2: that would scare a living shit out of me, and
Speaker 2: I'd run away. But I saw a video the other
Speaker 2: day of a of a woman who put a baby
Speaker 2: into a you know, one of those play pens inside
Speaker 2: the lounge, and the whole thing slid itself down towards
Speaker 2: the front door along the lounge, and I just kind
Speaker 2: of think there's so that must house so much kinetic
Speaker 2: energy to be able to create that sort of force.
Speaker 2: That's a massive amount of built up energy within that
Speaker 2: space that that that spirit's using. So that was kind
Speaker 2: of my question.
Speaker 3: A few cases in there where like very young children
Speaker 3: have been kind of you could say attacked, but you know,
Speaker 3: like kind of knocked over. And you know, because there's
Speaker 3: another one with a young a young child probably about
Speaker 3: eighteen months old, basically knocked off their feet.
Speaker 2: You can you can literally see this.
Speaker 3: Cad go flying. So yeah, you know, so stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you're kind of like, yeah, you're you're kind of getting
Speaker 3: a little bit on the nasty side. So but yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean it.
Speaker 2: All depends on you know, is it.
Speaker 3: You know, then you've got to think about are they
Speaker 3: connected to you, are they connected to your family as
Speaker 3: this you know, an upset spirit, or is it just
Speaker 3: somewhere that's kind of from that place, from the area,
Speaker 3: or have they just popped in you know.
Speaker 2: Well that's what we had right at the NaIO House.
Speaker 2: We had a giant portal funnel that would just spit
Speaker 2: out spirits left, right and center, and we had the
Speaker 2: occasional that would hang around and that were kind of
Speaker 2: bound to the house, and then others that would just
Speaker 2: show up and pop their hidden and then leave, or
Speaker 2: you know, open a cupboard and you know some stuff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: some stuff around and then leave. Yeah, we had a
Speaker 2: lot of activities.
Speaker 3: So we got some professionals to and basically that was
Speaker 3: their view is that this is just and it wasn't
Speaker 3: just one. There were a couple totally totally different said
Speaker 3: the same thing that there was almost like this portal
Speaker 3: that they're all coming here. And yeah, I mean, so
Speaker 3: we had a range of different activity. We definitely had
Speaker 3: some nasty stuff in that house. Nearly everyone that came
Speaker 3: into that house saw something, even my mum. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: it was yeah, it was the whole Nio house.
Speaker 2: Was oh yeah yeah. And I mean I've had some
Speaker 2: other experiences that we can talk about, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: you have as well, Juliet, outside of that house as well.
Speaker 2: And one of the things that I researched was the
Speaker 2: idea that there's an EPI center. Yeah, so can I
Speaker 2: just read you this real quickly because I found this
Speaker 2: quite interesting. This person wrote Poultergeist are centered on one
Speaker 2: person known as the epi center. The epicenter is typically
Speaker 2: an adolescent going through puberty, usually girls or adoless. It's
Speaker 2: going through a lot of emotional distress. So that's kind
Speaker 2: of my research that I came from. But once an
Speaker 2: epicenter releases a vast amount of negative emotions of polder
Speaker 2: Geist can can sorry, so it can form the epicenter's
Speaker 2: kinetic energy, so it can take that epicenter's kinetic energy.
Speaker 2: Another instance can occur if a spirit feeds off this
Speaker 2: a negative energy and becomes Poltergeist like entities. So I
Speaker 2: guess that's kind of what you were talking about in
Speaker 2: regards to kind of, you know, something a little bit
Speaker 2: more negative and a little bit more angry.
Speaker 3: That's kind of like what they're saying, Like they don't
Speaker 3: see poltar geyst as traditional ghosts or spirits of the decease,
Speaker 3: and they're thought to be more manifestations of like psychic energy.
Speaker 3: And that's basically what you're descented. Yes, so centered on
Speaker 3: that one person, Yeah, which is which is really interesting
Speaker 3: because you know, we read some cases where that hasn't
Speaker 3: really been the cases. You know, there's been a bunch
Speaker 3: of people in the houses you know, we've got a
Speaker 3: very famous case here in Australia and that's the same
Speaker 3: thing I just forgot the name of it in the
Speaker 3: Northern Territories called the Humpty Do Politics started my story.
Speaker 2: Hope you do polar guys. Yeah, so he will do.
Speaker 3: That's a kind of a story that we will do
Speaker 3: like a we'll do a short story on it and
Speaker 3: we'll put that up as well, because that's really really interesting.
Speaker 3: And we also have the Guyraghos, which was they think
Speaker 3: was manifested around a twelve year old girl called Mini.
Speaker 2: And yeah, so it.
Speaker 3: Was really kind of interesting interesting stories.
Speaker 2: So I wait to put those up. And it was interesting.
Speaker 2: We had this conversation like yesterday or the day before,
Speaker 2: we were talking about Poltergeist and kind of getting ready
Speaker 2: for this episode, and Juliet and I were talking about
Speaker 2: kind of why we had so much activity in the
Speaker 2: Nio house and was it centered around us or was
Speaker 2: it centered around her and we had children in the
Speaker 2: house and what did that look like and why was
Speaker 2: there so much activity. I mean, we saw full apparitions there.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of Poltergeist movement and activity around
Speaker 2: and I think the thing that we kind of looked
Speaker 2: at as we started pinpointing, going oh yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: There was a bit of financial struggle, there was a
Speaker 2: lot of emotional struggle. There was teenagers and kids, and
Speaker 2: there was a lot of stuff going on in that house, right,
Speaker 2: So when you kind of step out and you look
Speaker 2: into it from the outside perspective, we were able to go, oh, okay,
Speaker 2: I understand why.
Speaker 3: Now at that point, we were just loving at We
Speaker 3: were just like, you know, we were surviving. We were
Speaker 3: you know, we were young, we had kids, we were
Speaker 3: trying to survive, and you know, everybody else that was
Speaker 3: you know, it's the same thing. But yeah, yeah, really
Speaker 3: really really interesting. But yeah, I mean we you know,
Speaker 3: we even physically got hurt the you know, I was hat.
Speaker 3: I was basically went downstairs trying to do a blessing
Speaker 3: in the house to try and get rid of whatever
Speaker 3: activity was going on, and basically got hat. So I
Speaker 3: will never forget that, And that was like such a
Speaker 3: shock to me. I was just like it was a
Speaker 3: full handed hat like across my shoulder, and yeah, that
Speaker 3: was like, okay, we need to go and get some
Speaker 3: extra out now. So we left the house, like I
Speaker 3: basically chucked the kids in the car and I left,
Speaker 3: Like I was just like I was so shocked. I
Speaker 3: was really shaken up because I could tell whatever hit
Speaker 3: me was really not nice. Yeah, I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: like you know, like we said, we had a lot
Speaker 3: of activity in that house, but it wasn't always bad,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: It was just sometimes it became very annoying. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: And I mean, this is the thing. It's unnerving right
Speaker 2: to know that there's something in your house that won't
Speaker 2: allow you to settle right. It's moving things and it's
Speaker 2: showing its presence, and it's really unnerving to have to
Speaker 2: live in that space. I'm sure anyone that's had any
Speaker 2: sort of politiceist experience in there in their house that
Speaker 2: they've lived with, it's it's a really unnerving thing and
Speaker 2: you have to get help with it. Do you have
Speaker 2: any stories, real quick jewels that you want to go into.
Speaker 2: Did you want to go into those Australian ones?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay, so Overview would be really well girl, what is
Speaker 3: it called it?
Speaker 2: The Guira Ghost?
Speaker 3: So this was in early nineteen twenty one, This was
Speaker 3: a new South Wales. So the guyra Goes terrorized William Bowen,
Speaker 3: his wife Catherine and their three children, and they're like
Speaker 3: little cottage. It started up started with like loud thumping,
Speaker 3: and over days they started to become knocking.
Speaker 2: On the walls.
Speaker 3: Stones were being thrown onto the roof and outside the
Speaker 3: walls of the house. On the third night, shut bangs
Speaker 3: were heard on the inside of the house and it
Speaker 3: literally shook the cottage. Almost all the windows in the
Speaker 3: cottage were smashed out. None of the family could find
Speaker 3: the source of what was going on, although they were
Speaker 3: saying most of the activity was around twelve year old
Speaker 3: daughter Mini. So Ben Davy he was a student of spiritualism,
Speaker 3: and he visited the bow And house and he learned
Speaker 3: that May, their other daughter, Catherine, had died about three
Speaker 3: months earlier. So again there was a lot of you know,
Speaker 3: there was tragedy. There was a lot of emotions and
Speaker 3: stuff like this. He told the Sunday Times that he
Speaker 3: suspected that May, the deceased sister, was trying to get
Speaker 3: in contact with Minnie. So that was kind of what
Speaker 3: he went on. So when he was kind of with
Speaker 3: Minnie one night and he said to he said, look,
Speaker 3: you know, if you hear any knocking, he says, I
Speaker 3: want you to speak to her and ask her if
Speaker 3: it's your sister May. And she was very, very reluctant
Speaker 3: to do this to start with, but then some knocks
Speaker 3: started happening, and so he said, like literally all the
Speaker 3: hair stood up on the back of his neck and hands,
Speaker 3: and he was just like, oh my god. So he
Speaker 3: continued to kind of say to Minnie, please, you know,
Speaker 3: ask her if it was May.
Speaker 2: So she turned around.
Speaker 3: She goes, is that you May, you speak to me?
Speaker 3: And then she went really really quiet for a little bit,
Speaker 3: and then she just started crying. And he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: did May speak to you? And she goes, I can't
Speaker 3: tell you. It's a message for my mum. And so
Speaker 3: she ran to her mum and said the message and
Speaker 3: she said, tell mother that I am in heaven and
Speaker 3: I am quite happy her.
Speaker 2: Tell her it was her prayers.
Speaker 3: That got me here, and I will look after her
Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. So which was really yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the family ended up holding seances try and contact
Speaker 3: the ghosts they believed it to be the daughter. The
Speaker 3: police even arrived at the house and kept watch over
Speaker 3: the house because basically it just became so extreme. So
Speaker 3: they were trying to figure out as if somebody from
Speaker 3: the outside doing this or you know, and the locals
Speaker 3: were absolutely terrified. They armed themselves. They were sleeping with
Speaker 3: guns and weffons.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So, and also within that time, a five year old
Speaker 3: boy found a pistol on the bedroom tape he thought
Speaker 3: it was a toy and accidentally shot his six year
Speaker 3: old sister. That kind of like went on. Yeah, so it.
Speaker 2: Was in the same house or the same time.
Speaker 3: That was the same town because this was almost like
Speaker 3: this hysteria kind of took over the town.
Speaker 2: I understand. So the so the father or the mother
Speaker 2: was so worried they left their gun on the table
Speaker 2: sleeping with them.
Speaker 3: So upset about all this activity, I know. But the
Speaker 3: little spiked but she apparently has a bulletin head, so
Speaker 3: she laughed at it isn't amazing.
Speaker 2: How so much hysteria can take over, you know, over
Speaker 2: something that is just not not tangible. You can't hold
Speaker 2: it in your hands.
Speaker 3: You know. So, I mean, so when the police arrived,
Speaker 3: apparently one of the policemen was so affected by the
Speaker 3: activity he had to be sent away because it just
Speaker 3: like he couldn't deal with it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, you know, so it's really interesting that the
Speaker 3: police were brought in in this case as well. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: so so basically, yeah, it just finally kind of went through.
Speaker 3: They had a little thing about Minnie basically saying that
Speaker 3: she was They explained that she was a poltergeist medium
Speaker 3: and this is what they see, you know, kind of
Speaker 3: you know, back in this time, he considered like a
Speaker 3: general said, he considered her a little odd. She was
Speaker 3: tall and thin, dark hair, She had introspective eyes that
Speaker 3: never seemed to miss any movement in the room, and
Speaker 3: when she speaks, she never smiled and seems to look
Speaker 3: beyond or through you. And she said she had a
Speaker 3: rather and kenny aptitude for anticipating questions before they were asked.
Speaker 2: So maybe psychic abilities.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe psychic abilities. So and the thing about
Speaker 3: May's deaths, so this is where it kind of gets
Speaker 3: a little bit thingy because there they're not.
Speaker 2: Really sure how she died. So one story.
Speaker 3: So she was a single mum, she had a childhod wedlock,
Speaker 3: so again you know, that was a stress on the family.
Speaker 3: So they there were two accounts of May's death. One
Speaker 3: was that she died after a botched aborshit and one
Speaker 3: that she threw herself into a water hole and drowned herself.
Speaker 3: So again, you know, again it's that, you know, there's
Speaker 3: that kind of activity of that stress, those you know, emotions,
Speaker 3: So there is quite you know, a possibility that that
Speaker 3: kind of went on, but a few So here's another
Speaker 3: thing to it is a few days before the haunting began,
Speaker 3: there had been an unexplained disappearance of an eighty seven
Speaker 3: year old Irish woman, missus Doran. So on the fifth
Speaker 3: of April, a farm worker reported seeing mister Ram walking
Speaker 3: across the fields with a potato in each hand. She
Speaker 3: topped over her eyes and then she was just basically gone.
Speaker 3: After search parties had thoroughly searched the entire area she
Speaker 3: there was just no trace of her.
Speaker 2: She just basically disappeared.
Speaker 3: So so that's kind of a yeah, potatoes, So she
Speaker 3: had a potato in each hand and basically.
Speaker 2: Just walked off into the distance and disappeared, so you know,
Speaker 2: so that's.
Speaker 3: Kind of And then I heard another disturbing thing, which
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's true, so I have not
Speaker 3: been able to find anything, but it's about how Minie died,
Speaker 3: and it was basically that she was hit by a
Speaker 3: vehicle and decapitated when she was like in her eighties.
Speaker 3: So it's just like, well, okay, yeah, I mean that
Speaker 3: there is a lot of stories and evidence around people
Speaker 3: that have poldergeist activity and this sort of stuff when
Speaker 3: they're younger.
Speaker 2: It follows them through life, you know, And it sounds
Speaker 2: like Mini had some sort of psychic ability to end
Speaker 2: a channel or connect or whatever, and she probably experienced
Speaker 2: that throughout her.
Speaker 3: Whole life, right, And it'd be really interesting to talk to,
Speaker 3: you know, and try and find information of people around
Speaker 3: her at that time, you know, if anything else kind
Speaker 3: of happened. But you know, but you know, like back then,
Speaker 3: it was seen. It's such a bad thing, you know it.
Speaker 3: You know, it was almost like you're a watch. You
Speaker 3: were shunned, you were basically you're chucked into mental hospitals.
Speaker 2: You know all that kind of stuff. Well, that whole family, sorry,
Speaker 2: that whole family. I mean, like, you know, Minie's mum
Speaker 2: being a solo mother out of wedlock, that's you know, strike.
Speaker 3: Mini sister may that died, so a bigger pardon.
Speaker 2: So Mini's sister out of wedlock, that's your first you know,
Speaker 2: negative cross, especially back in Australia in those times where
Speaker 2: Juliet was saying there's so many mental asylums and psychiatric
Speaker 2: units that that women were just shoved into. There was
Speaker 2: something like I think the numbers were above five hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty a year women that were put into asylums.
Speaker 2: That's five hundred and fifty women a year. That's a
Speaker 2: huge number that were just put in. And you know,
Speaker 2: the reasons that you could go to being committed to
Speaker 2: an asylum was if you read novels, if you were
Speaker 2: a novel reader and thought, Juliet, she's a goner, especially
Speaker 2: the novels I read. That's the dungeon talk. Okay, you
Speaker 2: know there was ridiculous reasons to put women in these
Speaker 2: asylums and in these mental hospitals to be lobotomized, and
Speaker 2: you know, we went to an asylum and it was
Speaker 2: just horrendous and to think that, you know, these women
Speaker 2: were thrown in there for what having sex, out of marriage,
Speaker 2: you know, out of wedlocks, feeling or yeah, just or
Speaker 2: the kids stole something and then they got put in
Speaker 2: with them and oh yeah, but being too excited about life,
Speaker 2: don't you dare get too excited about life? You go
Speaker 2: to well, if you're a novel reader as well, obviously
Speaker 2: you're too excited about life.
Speaker 3: One of the other things was like with May's daughter,
Speaker 3: I think she was about eighteen months old, basically was
Speaker 3: given to Minnie to raise, so Minnie had to look
Speaker 3: after her, you know. So again it's yeah, so.
Speaker 5: Very much trauma and negative energy and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, gosh,
Speaker 5: you can understand why there was so much, like just
Speaker 5: such full on polder Geist activity.
Speaker 2: I mean, you have those different levels of polder Geist activity,
Speaker 2: and as those stresses become, you know, more and more
Speaker 2: and more, then obviously that feeds into that energy that
Speaker 2: the spirit needs. Right, Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: But one thing we have learned is you know, with
Speaker 3: some activity, you can actually manifest your own activity. So
Speaker 3: maybe there could have been a few things happening, but
Speaker 3: you know, but the family suddenly.
Speaker 2: Became focused on it.
Speaker 3: Then you know, then the neighbors became focused on it,
Speaker 3: then the town became focused on it. The police were there,
Speaker 3: so you know that they could have manifested you know,
Speaker 3: even more activity.
Speaker 2: Easily, Yeah, easily. It's that neurolinguistics, right, when everyone's thinking
Speaker 2: of the same thing, then you manifest that it happens.
Speaker 2: It's like the you know when you're in church or
Speaker 2: whatever and you will pray for someone and they miraculously
Speaker 2: get healed. Well, a lot of that theory comes from
Speaker 2: so many people thinking in the same way, you know,
Speaker 2: trying to manifest that and that's what you know, I
Speaker 2: guess universal consciousness. Isn't it all connected?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a little story, but there's but we will
Speaker 3: do some amazing pictures and stuff to add to So
Speaker 3: that'll be amazing for our Strange Tales of the South Pacific.
Speaker 2: It's such a cool story to do, and we'll put
Speaker 2: that one together. I've got a quick story. Do you
Speaker 2: want to hear it? We tell me so. My story
Speaker 2: comes from a news article called Pooka Koe Poltergeist. Pooka
Speaker 2: Koe is in New Zealand and the North Ireland. It
Speaker 2: says terrified residents call in which after ghostly encounters. And
Speaker 2: I'll just read through this really quickly just to give
Speaker 2: you a bit of an idea. So ghostbusters are being
Speaker 2: brought into rid of Pooka Koe home of evil spirits
Speaker 2: after terrified Filipino workers complained that it's haunted by ghules.
Speaker 2: And we know Filipino people are very religious and have
Speaker 2: a very strong superstition when it comes to the supernatural.
Speaker 2: The scared men reported the troubling presence of three female
Speaker 2: spirits at the Old Pooka Koe Villa and have engaged
Speaker 2: in services of a good witch to cast them out.
Speaker 2: I'll just take you down to where they talk about
Speaker 2: what's going on, so they said. The first few days
Speaker 2: they were there, they came back to us and said, hey, boss, boss,
Speaker 2: the place is haunted. There's ladies in there, three ladies,
Speaker 2: lady ghosts. And we were like, yeah, okay. But after
Speaker 2: that a few things started happening and it's been non
Speaker 2: stop since then. One man reported feeling a slap to
Speaker 2: his face in the middle of the night, walking waking
Speaker 2: up to find out that he was completely alone. That's
Speaker 2: pretty scary being slapped around. The men also reported lights
Speaker 2: getting turned on and off, footsteps and then running in
Speaker 2: the rooms. Some of the men have claimed to hear
Speaker 2: constant crying, woman crying, and one man reported experiencing a
Speaker 2: form of sleep paralysis, you know where you can't move
Speaker 2: when you're asleep or when you wake up and you
Speaker 2: still can't move. He said it was like something was
Speaker 2: holding his legs and pinning them down to the bed.
Speaker 2: And one poor guy had an uncanny encounter while he
Speaker 2: was on a video call to his wife in the Philippines.
Speaker 2: He said, his wife got shitty at him and has
Speaker 2: got stars beeping it out. His wife got shitty at
Speaker 2: him because she saw another woman behind him, and he
Speaker 2: swore black and blue that there was no one in there.
Speaker 2: The wife initially refused to believe the man's denials and
Speaker 2: insisted that he was lying. She was on video call
Speaker 2: with him she saw a woman behind him. He said
Speaker 2: that the workers had leaned on their strong Catholic faith
Speaker 2: to deal with the issue. Relating in a conversation with
Speaker 2: one of the terrified men, he said, in the name
Speaker 2: of Jesus, please just leave us alone. And it didn't work.
Speaker 2: So now so now the men are praying every night
Speaker 2: to try and keep them safe. They're, you know, holding
Speaker 2: the Bible and all this sort of stuff nice and
Speaker 2: close to their beds, but basically they just keep the
Speaker 2: wardrobe closed door the wardrobe door closed, and they try
Speaker 2: desperately to not call their wives.
Speaker 4: On video call from the Philippe, that poor man, we
Speaker 4: shouldn't laugh because they're obviously pictures fight of it, but
Speaker 4: they said.
Speaker 2: They're still getting you know, woman's crying and crying voices
Speaker 2: in the night and all of that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: So obviously whoever's in that house did not want them
Speaker 2: to come in to be there. When was this? So
Speaker 2: I think this is quite recent. I'm sorry, I'll just
Speaker 2: pull this back up again. This will was published a
Speaker 2: two thousand and twenty. Ah, you poor boys. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's quite interesting that the conversation or the article is
Speaker 2: kind of written like a conversation, and it goes into
Speaker 2: like kind of what the good witch is going to do.
Speaker 2: It's going to go in and you know, cleanse the
Speaker 2: house and all that sort of stuff. There hasn't been
Speaker 2: a follow up report yet, track them down, track down
Speaker 2: the house. I might do. I might do, But I
Speaker 2: just kind of thought it really highlights when there is
Speaker 2: spiritual activity in a house and it's associated and connected
Speaker 2: to that house. If you walk into their unknowingly, then
Speaker 2: you're going to get the wrath of whatever energy is
Speaker 2: in that space. And I find there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that walk straight into these sort of spaces and
Speaker 2: don't pay respect to the house itself and to the
Speaker 2: energy that's already in there. They just walk straight in
Speaker 2: and pick up on it straight away, whereas they don't
Speaker 2: pick up on it straight away, and whereas like sometimes
Speaker 2: you know, you and I have.
Speaker 3: Walked into buildings and go oh oh oh.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be here. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely,
Speaker 2: and you know, like you know, you get the spine
Speaker 2: tingly kind of goose bumps and you know when you're
Speaker 2: not meant to be there. I remember we were sitting
Speaker 2: there and the cats.
Speaker 3: Remember we had all three cats that were on the
Speaker 3: couch with us with the fire going watching TV, and
Speaker 3: all three cats literally just jumped up like they.
Speaker 6: Sucked up and they were like and We're all like
Speaker 6: ohkay yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, very much so, right, And
Speaker 6: it's interesting, right, those cats, they never they were pretty worldly.
Speaker 2: Cats, right. They spent a lot of time outside. They
Speaker 2: used to bring in bush rents and wetters and all
Speaker 2: of those sort of things.
Speaker 3: They and what's right, yabby, but many crayfish what the
Speaker 3: hell are they called?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Crayfish? Shrimp?
Speaker 3: I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, absolutely, So
Speaker 3: they were really, you know, they were worldly cats.
Speaker 2: They knew what everything was. But men they had a
Speaker 2: few moments where they were puffed up like little puff
Speaker 2: balls and hiding in a corner and all of a
Speaker 2: sudden disappeared, right yeah, yeah, and their eyes would be
Speaker 2: like booms when you're like, oh, what they seeing? What
Speaker 2: are they saying? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah? What's going
Speaker 2: on over there? Anyway, good story without being in storytime yet? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: my bad. So Juliet, you're going to do first. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm just doing a little bit.
Speaker 2: You know, this is our version.
Speaker 3: If it's wrong, then let us know. But no, kind
Speaker 3: of like the differences between like Polterguy's activity and like
Speaker 3: demonic activity, you know that they can be very similar
Speaker 3: in some parts, but it's just a kind of like
Speaker 3: a little bit of a difference. You know that they
Speaker 3: can manifest almost in the same way. So like as
Speaker 3: we're talking about Poltergeist kind of like manifestations of psychic energy,
Speaker 3: you know, we kind of an individual possibly focused on that,
Speaker 3: you know that they're doing, whereas your demons are quite
Speaker 3: manlevolent and.
Speaker 2: They're spiritual entities.
Speaker 3: Even though like the Poltargeist activity is it involves you know,
Speaker 3: physical disturbances, objects, moving noises, you know, all that kind
Speaker 3: of stuff disruptions and electrical equipment demon activity can be
Speaker 3: similar where like the physical manifestations, but it's it's generally
Speaker 3: a more sinister kind of occurrence kind of behind it.
Speaker 3: You know, you can get everything from possession and like
Speaker 3: dark apparitions, you know that that kind of stuff. I
Speaker 3: think that the feel kind of generally if you really
Speaker 3: kind of feel it in the house, you would probably
Speaker 3: sense that there's like a bit of a darker entity there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, are we talking shadow people as far as like
Speaker 2: those of manifest that.
Speaker 3: That's a you know there are you know, there are
Speaker 3: a lot of shadow people. I mean, we we had
Speaker 3: one in the Naia.
Speaker 2: House who we named George. Talk about George. We we
Speaker 2: literally had a.
Speaker 3: Shadow he was a hat man and as we found
Speaker 3: out from Heidi Hollis. Yeah, so that that's our whole
Speaker 3: different story of that one.
Speaker 2: And that was such a funny conversation, right. We we
Speaker 2: had this conversation with Heidi Hollis, who essentially named hat
Speaker 2: man and shadow people, and she said, ah, sounds like
Speaker 2: you had a hat man and we were like, oh,
Speaker 2: he was, and we have never heard of it before.
Speaker 2: We just called him George.
Speaker 3: We just called him George because everybody's saw George, and
Speaker 3: if George gave you a fright, you'd be like, George,
Speaker 3: would you just stop at can you just go.
Speaker 2: Away to freak out?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 3: And that was literally kind of our attitude towards him
Speaker 3: in the end, was.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, George, stop it. Yeah, And so what would
Speaker 2: you what would you call George? Where would he fit
Speaker 2: into that kind of list that you've got, Oh, God.
Speaker 3: Like, I wouldn't call him a pold guys, but I
Speaker 3: also wouldn't call him like a demon like you know what.
Speaker 3: It's like, I don't think he was either, even though
Speaker 3: hat Man is supposed to be around when there is
Speaker 3: like kind of he's on the darker side.
Speaker 2: He's like a darker entity.
Speaker 3: I mean, apart from scaring the crap out of us
Speaker 3: on occasions, we never really felt any And I think that's,
Speaker 3: you know, because because that's why we named him, and
Speaker 3: that's why when it's like, oh, it's just George, I think,
Speaker 3: you know it, we never got that real menacing, menacing
Speaker 3: kind of feel about having.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So whereas you know, there was definitely other and
Speaker 3: other stuff in the house that was extremely menacing or
Speaker 3: you know, possibly the demonic activity, which you know you
Speaker 3: look back now and kind of go okay, yeah, like
Speaker 3: so you know, so pot of guys are kind of
Speaker 3: they're associated with being a little bit mischievous and they
Speaker 3: you know, I was saying, they're kind of linked to
Speaker 3: emotional and psychological kind of turmoil and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: So and your demons are kind of like they're they're
Speaker 3: there to harm you. They're there to kind of cause you,
Speaker 3: like just stress that, to scare you, to frighten you,
Speaker 3: you know, and the position side of it, you know,
Speaker 3: which is absolutely terrifying, you know, to to kind of
Speaker 3: be in that kind of stuff. And also you know,
Speaker 3: your demons are kind of they're more interpreted with a
Speaker 3: religious kind of context and framework around them, you know,
Speaker 3: where you end up having to bring in you know,
Speaker 3: like your Catholic priests and you know, anything to Christianity
Speaker 3: and stuff where you know, they're considered agents of evil,
Speaker 3: aren't they. So you know, so it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: so you bring in priests and you know, you can
Speaker 3: do your exorcisms and you know, or bless your house
Speaker 3: and that kind of stuff, you know, whereas you you know,
Speaker 3: your pod guys activity. You don't necessarily need to do that,
Speaker 3: even though there's been some you know, some cases, you know,
Speaker 3: like the case that we spoke about before and the
Speaker 3: Northern Territories, what was it called the the boot one?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I forgot the name. Humpty do house
Speaker 3: you do case, we're basically priest Swinton and had knights
Speaker 3: thrown at them.
Speaker 2: So but the knight that was thrown at.
Speaker 3: The priest literally stopped about half of it away from
Speaker 3: him and dropped to the ground.
Speaker 2: The humpy case, we haven't been through that.
Speaker 3: Maybe that thing we'll talk about later, so that that
Speaker 3: is like a case that you know that we're going
Speaker 3: to do with the short story. But yeah, they were
Speaker 3: pre sprought into that and a lot of a lot
Speaker 3: of paranormal activity activity.
Speaker 2: And but this priest that came.
Speaker 3: In seemed to think his view was like the polar
Speaker 3: guice activity will never harm you. So if you had
Speaker 3: something thrown at you, like you know, say somebody had
Speaker 3: a stone through at them, it would be like a
Speaker 3: marshmallow hitting you. And I'm you know, I'm a little
Speaker 3: bit kind of dubious about that.
Speaker 2: So I don't know that's a question for for our
Speaker 2: watches and the comments have you ever been hit by
Speaker 2: something from by a poltergeist before? I'm sure those cheers
Speaker 2: flying across.
Speaker 7: The room wouldn't have hurt at all, you know, like
Speaker 7: or you know, people being you know, the kids being dragged,
Speaker 7: people being grabbed and pulled, and you know, so then
Speaker 7: is that or.
Speaker 2: Is that demonic?
Speaker 3: So it's it's a very it's a really really tricky
Speaker 3: and there's.
Speaker 2: So much crossover in it, right, and I guess that's
Speaker 2: where people get confused. And it all just depends on
Speaker 2: what your belief system is. If you come from a
Speaker 2: religious belief system, then you're immediately going to go to
Speaker 2: it must be demonic, because my belief system states. So
Speaker 2: if you come from a different belief system around you know,
Speaker 2: some sort of paganism or anything else that's not generalized religion,
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden you're thinking, well, it's probably
Speaker 2: some sort of a spirit that hasn't crossed over yet
Speaker 2: or you know whatever around that sort of message.
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, and sang here just a you know, to
Speaker 3: cause a bit of strife, you know, just a trickster.
Speaker 2: Right, So then how do you categorize you categorize this stuff?
Speaker 2: Or is it more guestimation.
Speaker 3: I think it's more guessing and also kind of your encounters,
Speaker 3: you know, so if you know, like us, we had
Speaker 3: our Poulter Guy's activity in the Naire house, as you know,
Speaker 3: and it was scary, but it never got to the
Speaker 3: point where the polterguy se activity made us run out
Speaker 3: of the house. Other things did. But you know, I
Speaker 3: kind of think, you know, when we look back, I
Speaker 3: think it was like definitely two different things there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: we were never it was more you know, like we're saying,
Speaker 3: you know, you'd be sitting there and stuff would go
Speaker 3: flying or you hear a smash or the doors would open,
Speaker 3: and you know, and you know, we do look back
Speaker 3: because you know, we lived in Wellington and Wellington has
Speaker 3: a lot of earthquakes, and you know, and you know,
Speaker 3: we were so used to earthquakes there, and you know
Speaker 3: we had them on a regular basis, so you know,
Speaker 3: some of it you kind of go, could it have
Speaker 3: been you know, a quick earthquake, because you do, we
Speaker 3: would get jolts. You wouldn't just be like, oh, here's
Speaker 3: a lot of rumbling. It would just be one job
Speaker 3: that's a boom and then like everything in the cupboards
Speaker 3: the glasses. All we hear is bang and ching, and
Speaker 3: you know, everything and then it's done, you know, so
Speaker 3: that you know, so you do kind of take in
Speaker 3: that kind of thing, you know what.
Speaker 2: I so wish that we took notes around that. I
Speaker 2: wonder if there was a connection with the Poldergeist activity
Speaker 2: and the earthquake and the volcanic activity underneath us. I mean,
Speaker 2: there must have been like this build up and release
Speaker 2: of energy. Damn it. We should have taken notes, I.
Speaker 3: Know, like the more we learn, you know, like even
Speaker 3: when we lived down the South Island, we lived in Pectin,
Speaker 3: and going driving from Pectin to Blenham, which was like
Speaker 3: the closest big town, it's like a twenty minute drive,
Speaker 3: but you can guarantee you got this little area like
Speaker 3: in between it and you're crossing over this bridge, and
Speaker 3: the odometer like on the car would spin, like it
Speaker 3: would just go crazy every time said there's such a
Speaker 3: huge magnetic field or lay line or fault line there
Speaker 3: that it always went off. And it was really funny
Speaker 3: because like sometimes you go across it and just be
Speaker 3: like a little spin and other times go absolutely insane.
Speaker 2: And it got to the point.
Speaker 3: Where you're like yeah, we're gonna have an earthquakes soon,
Speaker 3: because you just kind of knew, and like even I say,
Speaker 3: you know, you've been willing to go, oh, we haven't
Speaker 3: really had a little shake for a while, because we
Speaker 3: were quite happy if we had lots of little shakes.
Speaker 3: But then you like, we haven't had one for a while,
Speaker 3: so we're probably going to have a bigger one. And
Speaker 3: sure enough we did. You know, you would have like
Speaker 3: a like a bigger kind of a rumble and stuff
Speaker 3: that would go on, and then you're kind.
Speaker 2: Of like, oh and we relax, yeah, and you can feel,
Speaker 2: you know. I was talking to Kathy, who's a clear
Speaker 2: when that lives in an upper hut, who we're going
Speaker 2: to work with soon, and she actually messaged me and said,
Speaker 2: can you feel it? And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you can. Let you feel the whole. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: here we go.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so interesting. And I don't know that you know,
Speaker 2: there's nothing that tells you there's earthquakes coming, but there's
Speaker 2: definitely this feeling of built up energy that you get
Speaker 2: if you have any sort of connection to that sort
Speaker 2: of I guess to Earth. You know that you're connected to.
Speaker 3: We were in cobb and coat and the hat I
Speaker 3: come with you. We had glasses of wine, nice read
Speaker 3: wine and basically an earthquake hat. I can't remember her.
Speaker 3: It was like because we were so usedful it used
Speaker 3: to it. Basically the first thing we did was grab
Speaker 3: our wine. We're like, whoa save the wine that I
Speaker 3: think it was Michelle and like we just grabbed a
Speaker 3: wi We're like, way, I've got the wiel like well sway,
Speaker 3: Like okay, we're good. But what happened was like on
Speaker 3: a table, like a couple of tables away from us
Speaker 3: was an American family and basically they just wanted defull
Speaker 3: mode panic and just dropped.
Speaker 2: We were like, oh it's okay, guys. And the way
Speaker 2: it just runs past is like good on your girls.
Speaker 2: Oh well, that's it right. You know, we get to
Speaker 2: the point where we go we're not gonna Should I
Speaker 2: get up? Now? Are you going to continue? Should I
Speaker 2: get up and go underneath my doorway?
Speaker 3: That is like, oh okay, it's been going for longer
Speaker 3: than like, you know, because we've been kind of gauging
Speaker 3: thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it's going to pick up a little bit,
Speaker 2: but are you going to keep going? But isn't that interesting.
Speaker 2: I think, what a what an interesting connection that we
Speaker 2: we definitely have to go a little bit further into
Speaker 2: talking about, you know, energy lines, lay lines, portals, all
Speaker 2: of those sort of things and whether or not that
Speaker 2: affects Poultergeist activity. So I think that's a really cool
Speaker 2: connection that mad energy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, a lot of electrical issues in that house,
Speaker 3: say so many electrical issues in that house.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, do you want to do you want to
Speaker 2: tell some stories? Now? I think we're kind of getting
Speaker 2: in there. Let's tell our stories, our little personal stories.
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So I've had some recent activity kind of
Speaker 3: like last year, which I just I have no idea.
Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. But it started with
Speaker 3: a I was in the bathroom. I was in the shower.
Speaker 3: Do you love it when they come to you in
Speaker 3: the shower? And like literally I got out. I was
Speaker 3: like looking in the mirror. I was doing me here
Speaker 3: and stuff, and this like large black thing just like
Speaker 3: dropped down behind me, and all I could see in
Speaker 3: the back of miles like this big, big drop. And
Speaker 3: because the first thing that jumps into your into your
Speaker 3: head is oh my god, that was a Huntsman, so
Speaker 3: you know, so like a giant spider spider. So I'm
Speaker 3: like going through and like moved all the kids toys.
Speaker 3: There was literally nothing near and it was just like
Speaker 3: the here in the back of my neck just kind
Speaker 3: of stood up. I'm like, okay, I'm just like what's
Speaker 3: going on here? So it didn't I was like, okay,
Speaker 3: whatever it was, I'm just like, no, bugger off. And
Speaker 3: then things just kind of progressively got words like we've
Speaker 3: got like curtains I don't even know how to explain,
Speaker 3: just like kind of slack curtains, so they will kind
Speaker 3: of come down, and so they got string at the bottom,
Speaker 3: you know, it kind of holds them together and so
Speaker 3: you pull them across. We would be sitting there watching
Speaker 3: TV and these curtains, like no heaters or anything, would
Speaker 3: literally start swaying, and it was just like and you're
Speaker 3: sitting there watching it and you're like, can you like
Speaker 3: stop that now?
Speaker 2: It's just like what's going on?
Speaker 3: And that happened like many times, like probably a good
Speaker 3: dozen times that happened. Like it was like either in
Speaker 3: the kitchen, it was like in the bedrooms. I was
Speaker 3: laying in bed one night and the same thing, like
Speaker 3: nothing on, no heater is on, and I got woken
Speaker 3: to like the swishing noise. I'm like, what's going on?
Speaker 3: And I'm literally sitting in bed and my curtains are
Speaker 3: doing this. It was just like I'm like, Okay, You've
Speaker 3: got my attention, can you please leave? But then I
Speaker 3: just like every time, and I spoke to Lisa about this,
Speaker 3: like I would go into the bathroom and just like
Speaker 3: here in the back of my neck would stand up,
Speaker 3: and I just didn't feel like I was alone. And
Speaker 3: what Lisa and I have called them a dirty ghost
Speaker 3: because we've had a few encounters, especially in the.
Speaker 2: Nio house as well.
Speaker 3: But I had my toothpaste, like I brushed through with
Speaker 3: think but I brush my teeth in the shower. That's
Speaker 3: how I do it every morning, and so it kind
Speaker 3: of hops in the slat and then it just kind
Speaker 3: of sits here kind of like on the bathroom rack.
Speaker 3: And I just sat noticing that my toothpaste started moving,
Speaker 3: and like I'm in the shower like going, what's going
Speaker 3: on and the toothpaste bom bom bom bom just started
Speaker 3: doing this, and I like I kind of grabbed it
Speaker 3: and I stopped it and like, you know, just just stop,
Speaker 3: and it just kept going. And this continued for about
Speaker 3: a month. Every time I had a shower.
Speaker 2: My toothpaste, I've always got to the point.
Speaker 3: Where I wanted to wear a bikini or dogs into
Speaker 3: the shower and I'm just like, well, you just like
Speaker 3: go away.
Speaker 2: This is like really rude, you know, it's like but
Speaker 2: then yeah.
Speaker 3: Then it eventually, you know, I don't know what happened.
Speaker 3: And and then I rang Lisa.
Speaker 2: One day.
Speaker 3: I was I was making myself a hot dog for lunch, right,
Speaker 3: so I had my barn, put my cheese and my mustard,
Speaker 3: my tomato sauce, and put my sausage on and so
Speaker 3: it was there already on the plate. And then I
Speaker 3: went to make a drink and then I turned around
Speaker 3: and the sausage was literally out of my hot dog
Speaker 3: and I come off the plate where it hadn't.
Speaker 2: Tipped over anything, and it was on the bench.
Speaker 3: I'm just like, oh my god, like leave my food alone,
Speaker 3: and Lisa going.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, published trying to steal.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, but I mean that's kind of
Speaker 3: our attitude towards.
Speaker 2: It was just what is going on? But I have no.
Speaker 3: Idea what kind of brought up that activity, but it's
Speaker 3: now gone.
Speaker 2: It was around for about a good month and a bit,
Speaker 2: but it's literally stopped.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I was literally just like just whatever you are,
Speaker 3: just I know you're here, please leave, like I did
Speaker 3: do like I do do my cards and I do
Speaker 3: do pendulum and stuff like that. And I was telling
Speaker 3: Lisa about it, and it basically came up, you know
Speaker 3: from what I kind of interpreted that. It was like
Speaker 3: a kid and it was like playful energy. It wasn't
Speaker 3: like nasty, but it was like playful and it's just like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm here and carry on.
Speaker 2: That's right. Yeah, And didn't it come up with it
Speaker 2: wanted to play with the kids because it wasn't the grandkids, right,
Speaker 2: grandkids and stuff. And there was a few little kind of.
Speaker 3: A few little incidences where the kids got really frightened
Speaker 3: because something was in the room and you know, things
Speaker 3: were moving and yeah, so they you know, so we
Speaker 3: were kind of like, you know, it's I basically said themself,
Speaker 3: you please need you need to leave because you're actually
Speaker 3: scaring the kids.
Speaker 2: Can you please leave?
Speaker 3: And it worked, you know, there was no like, oh
Speaker 3: you're bad I'm just like, you're freaking them out, you know.
Speaker 2: So whether it was like just something passing.
Speaker 6: Through or.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know, but like, like the very first
Speaker 3: I think within the first six months of us living
Speaker 3: in this house was one of there's an operation that
Speaker 3: I saw, which is the most it was the I've
Speaker 3: never seen an operation like it. Like it was so clear,
Speaker 3: it was so thing, and it was like of a
Speaker 3: young well I think was an Aboriginal girl with like
Speaker 3: a big cloak on little bobcat here beer feet and
Speaker 3: she literally walked past my door and like I was like,
Speaker 3: by the time my daughter came home about fifteen minutes later,
Speaker 3: I'm literally running around the house with a baseball back
Speaker 3: in the house because I knew in my kid what
Speaker 3: I saw, but it was still like that that freaked
Speaker 3: me out. So because I've never seen an operation so clear,
Speaker 3: so so vivid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so crazy, really really interesting.
Speaker 3: But there's you know, there's been like five years five
Speaker 3: six years between that operation and you know what kind
Speaker 3: of thing it kind of happened here.
Speaker 2: So the best part about this whole thing happening to
Speaker 2: Juliet was the phone calls that I got in New
Speaker 2: Zealand funny. Oh my god, my toothpaste keeps moving. Why
Speaker 2: won't I stop moving?
Speaker 3: It was just it was just the artist thing. I'm like,
Speaker 3: why are you moving my toothpaste? And then why are
Speaker 3: you watching me in the shower? You know?
Speaker 2: And I think that's something we'll talk about now, Dungeon
Speaker 2: talk episodes and we'll go into that sort of dirty
Speaker 2: purv girl and that sort of stuff, because we've got
Speaker 2: a fair few stories of encounters with spirits and showers,
Speaker 2: which is just not okay. Yeah, yeah, I suppose it's
Speaker 2: that water thing, isn't it, you know, show conductivity. I
Speaker 2: don't want to share my showers. Yeah, I draw the
Speaker 2: line at sharing my shower. Okay, sharing my food maybe,
Speaker 2: but sharing my shower about that definite no.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 3: So so that was my story. So Lisa, tell me
Speaker 3: your little poltergeist encounters.
Speaker 2: Well, well, as you know, I've had a few, especially
Speaker 2: with you, and I do wonder that you're the catalyst. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't think it's me at all. Definitely that one.
Speaker 2: I hope I'm pointing to the right side. You've got
Speaker 2: to point down. I don't know who you're pointing to.
Speaker 2: Just George over there, guy. So I have a couple
Speaker 2: of stories, only two stories that I wanted to share.
Speaker 2: Number one was in a house that we had just
Speaker 2: moved into after the Nio house. So I do wonder
Speaker 2: if maybe I took something with me from the Nio house.
Speaker 2: I took them with me. So we moved into a
Speaker 2: house in Avalon, which is a really old area in
Speaker 2: Lower Hut. It's been settled for probably a good hundred years.
Speaker 2: It's one of the first settlements through Lower Hut, so
Speaker 2: been there for quite a while. And we moved into
Speaker 2: a really old house. And so we knew that because
Speaker 2: it had these pull out kind of diagonal container drawers
Speaker 2: wooden drawers that they used to put flour into and
Speaker 2: onions and that sort of stuff. And next day they
Speaker 2: would keep the really old Yeah, yeah, really old. And
Speaker 2: it was an amazing pink color. That's how we know
Speaker 2: it was really that.
Speaker 3: The pastial pink blues and greens in New Zealand, which
Speaker 3: is also through all the psychiatric hospitals on my ad.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and I wonder why people were crazy because
Speaker 2: they have to live in that, right, I mean seriously. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So that was our kitchen pastor pink, and so I remember,
Speaker 2: and I was living there with my little boy at
Speaker 2: the time, who was probably about three by that point,
Speaker 2: I think, after we moved out of the Nio house,
Speaker 2: and so we were living in this house and that
Speaker 2: was fine, no problems, everything was all good. Until one
Speaker 2: day I woke up and I felt sick, kind of
Speaker 2: like how I'm sounding now, and I thought, right, I'm
Speaker 2: going to go and get my This isn't my normal voice,
Speaker 2: by the way, I hope you know. I don't think
Speaker 2: this is normal. So I thought, right, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go get some oranges. I'll go down to the supermarket,
Speaker 2: get me some nice oranges. I'll make myself feel better,
Speaker 2: and I'll fix whatever's trying to get me, right. So
Speaker 2: I went down and I bought this beautiful bag of
Speaker 2: like kind of six or eight oranges, and I popped
Speaker 2: them on top of my table in the fruit bowl,
Speaker 2: still in the bag, mind you, in the dining room.
Speaker 2: And my bedroom was down the hallway and then right
Speaker 2: at the end of the house, so it was a
Speaker 2: fair amount of walk away from the dining room, and
Speaker 2: so I popped those there, and I went around and
Speaker 2: I did whatever else I was doing, and I came
Speaker 2: back probably about an hour or two later to find
Speaker 2: my oranges and do some squeezing and make myself healthy.
Speaker 2: And I was like, where the hell have my oranges gone.
Speaker 2: I was the only person in my house. My baby
Speaker 2: was at preschool, at kindergarten, and I was like, the
Speaker 2: cat's not big enough and she's got no opposable thumbs.
Speaker 2: She can't take it anyway. So I was a bit
Speaker 2: miffed by it, and I was like, where are my oranges?
Speaker 2: I know I put them right here, So I started
Speaker 2: looking for them. Right So I was like, oh, we
Speaker 2: look through the lounge and then through the kitchen, because
Speaker 2: that's the obvious place that you find your oranges is
Speaker 2: probably I put them in the kitchen. Sure, And so
Speaker 2: I walked around, no oranges, no oranges. Walked into my
Speaker 2: bedroom and I was like, it's not in my bedroom,
Speaker 2: and so I thought, I'll just have a quick look around.
Speaker 2: Opened the wardrobe, not in there, opened a couple of
Speaker 2: my drawers, thinking you're an idiot, why are you even
Speaker 2: looking at the drawers? For looked under my bed and
Speaker 2: I was like, are you joking?
Speaker 8: And literally under my bed, in the middle of my
Speaker 8: bed was my oranges in the bag that I had
Speaker 8: left them in on the dining room and I was
Speaker 8: just like, I'm just trying to get healthy.
Speaker 2: You give me back my oranges. And so that's probably
Speaker 2: the biggest like poldergeist activity I've ever experienced.
Speaker 3: That's that's quite a Yeah, it's a massive amount of
Speaker 3: space that it moved, right, and that was really kind
Speaker 3: of what it was.
Speaker 2: More annoying and trickster than anything. But I was just like,
Speaker 2: how the hell did you make this happen? And who
Speaker 2: are you get out of my house? So, yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know if it was something that was already in
Speaker 2: the house when we moved in or something that maybe
Speaker 2: we brought with us on our journeys, but that was
Speaker 2: pretty crazy. And nothing else happened. We didn't have any
Speaker 2: slamming doors or anything crazy town like that going on.
Speaker 2: But my oranges were put under my bed and that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And anytime it comes to like you all.
Speaker 3: Your little stalker's like, oh, I'm just gonna eat oranges
Speaker 3: under a bed and watching.
Speaker 2: That's the freaky thing, right when things happen in the
Speaker 2: shower or when you're in your sleeping space, in your
Speaker 2: vulnerable areas, it freaks you out way more you know,
Speaker 2: yeah it does. Like the kitchen, kitchen doesn't matter so much,
Speaker 2: but in your bed or in the shower, it's just
Speaker 2: not okay, a little play with me. But my second
Speaker 2: story is from actually a different place. When I got
Speaker 2: back from London, i'd moved over there with my son
Speaker 2: and we'd come home to stay without with my partner
Speaker 2: and his family. And the house that we lived in
Speaker 2: was a makeshift what do you call it, like a
Speaker 2: a semi office building set up one of those not
Speaker 2: real buildings building like a building, but like it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like a set up office kind of oh gosh,
Speaker 2: it's a special name for them that are kind of
Speaker 2: like pop up buildings. So it was very much run
Speaker 2: for an office set up, and so we kind of
Speaker 2: emptied it all and used it as our house. And
Speaker 2: there was a couple of real nasty things going on
Speaker 2: in that place, which I did not like at all,
Speaker 2: especially in the shower there. And my son also had
Speaker 2: a very horrible encounter with a ghost in the bathroom
Speaker 2: as well, and he refused to go back in there.
Speaker 2: And he's a big boy, like he's a big salmon boy.
Speaker 2: He's six foot and he was just like no, I'm
Speaker 2: not going back in there, but this is this happened
Speaker 2: when we first got back here. My partner had built
Speaker 2: us a bedroom in this off this building and this
Speaker 2: is amazing, and he's built the walls and da da
Speaker 2: da da dah, and laid out this brand new carpet
Speaker 2: and it was nice and squishy, but basically it was
Speaker 2: so thick and it had such a thick underlay that
Speaker 2: when you tried to close the door, you had to
Speaker 2: physically push the door really hard across the carpet because
Speaker 2: the carpet was so high, right, so it couldn't be
Speaker 2: blown by the wind or buy anyone. Apart from being
Speaker 2: really physically pushed with your hand, you couldn't even kick
Speaker 2: it and let it swing, and you had to really
Speaker 2: kind of give it a good go. Anyway, So my
Speaker 2: son and I were sitting in that room because we
Speaker 2: just got a new kitten and our pussy cats also
Speaker 2: had joined our family, and she was in a cardboard
Speaker 2: box in that room. We literally, I think, brought her
Speaker 2: home that day and the door was open, so into
Speaker 2: this bedroom, the door was open. We were sitting on
Speaker 2: the carpet next to the door, and the cat was
Speaker 2: in the little box and all of a sudden behind
Speaker 2: my son and I was looking at the door in
Speaker 2: that direction, and my son was looking at me with
Speaker 2: his back to the door, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: the door shut itself. And I said to Hunter, did
Speaker 2: you shut that door? Mate? And he goes, no, Mum.
Speaker 2: And he was sitting cross legged looking at the cat
Speaker 2: in the box. And I was like, Oh, the door
Speaker 2: just shut and he goes, oh, that's weird because you
Speaker 2: have to push that door.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And the more I think about it, the more I go, Wow,
Speaker 2: that was crazy because it also made a really crazy sound,
Speaker 2: like you know that pushing sound of wood over carpet.
Speaker 2: It didn't make any sound when it closed. That's the
Speaker 2: weird thing, isn't it.
Speaker 3: You know, like there's some activity that you've had where
Speaker 3: something happens and there is no sound and you're like,
Speaker 3: I just this happened, but there's literally no sound.
Speaker 2: And then other activity is like bang goes a cubo door,
Speaker 2: or bang.
Speaker 3: There goes something flying off the bench, or he goes a.
Speaker 2: Knife block or yeah yeah, and it's so odd. It's
Speaker 2: like there's something just not quite right with it, right,
Speaker 2: There's something missing about that occurrence or that kind of activity.
Speaker 3: It's so much there must be so much power behind
Speaker 3: to kind of do it, and that kind of Yeah. Yeah, well,
Speaker 3: I mean I know how much how much.
Speaker 2: Effort I had to put in to push that door
Speaker 2: shut so for it to simply shut itself, And yeah,
Speaker 2: that that freaked us out, like pretty good and proper.
Speaker 2: And then we started getting some pretty, as you put it,
Speaker 2: sinister sort of vibes going on, especially with some things
Speaker 2: that were happening outside the house and then inside that
Speaker 2: bathroom kind of area, and we were like, yeah, noop,
Speaker 2: And I got very angry, you know, at the entity
Speaker 2: for you know, violating my kind of my privacy. You know,
Speaker 2: I got really really grumpy at it. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: you know, we did all I did a cleanse and
Speaker 2: that sort of stuff, and I kind of felt like
Speaker 2: it probably wasn't the same thing. I think the thing
Speaker 2: that was happening in the bathroom was situated in the
Speaker 2: bathroom and was stuck in there probably due to the
Speaker 2: water as well that energy, and the thing that shut
Speaker 2: the door and was causing little issues in the house
Speaker 2: was probably more of a trickster sort of poltergeist activity
Speaker 2: sort of thing. But Yeah, it was really that. It
Speaker 2: was very off putting. I was like, what I did
Speaker 2: shut that door?
Speaker 3: Like I don't think so, but I mean, I mean
Speaker 3: this is that you know, it's like we're saying, there
Speaker 3: are a lot of incidents where there's been activity and
Speaker 3: stuff and not that things happening in bathrooms and people's bathrooms. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and if you've had any encounters like that, please let
Speaker 3: us know, you know, right down in the like right
Speaker 3: down underneath and message us and stuff, you know, because
Speaker 3: we would love to hear your stories as well, any
Speaker 3: older guys activity that you've had, especially through you know.
Speaker 2: Like our stories range through the Wellington region. So if
Speaker 2: you've got any stories, if you're a Kiwi and you've
Speaker 2: lived in Wellington, I know there's a few people that
Speaker 2: follow us that know the Nio house. So if you've
Speaker 2: got any stories around that area, man like send them
Speaker 2: to us or drop them in the comments below, because
Speaker 2: that's mental that house.
Speaker 3: But anyone else, yeah, like you know, Australia, you know anything.
Speaker 3: You know, we love hearing these stories and kind of
Speaker 3: how you guys dealt with them as well. You know,
Speaker 3: we've kind of learned that well, you know, as we've
Speaker 3: gone on here because like a lot of activity used
Speaker 3: to really scare me, and like it was just like
Speaker 3: how do I deal with this?
Speaker 2: And I spoke to a really loved guy who was
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 3: Of a psychic person and like I cannot put the
Speaker 3: life and me remember his name, but he was an
Speaker 3: alder gentleman and he'd had a lot of kind of
Speaker 3: experience and kind of this kind of stuff, and he
Speaker 3: was literally just like, stand up to them. You have
Speaker 3: to stand up to them. You have to show that
Speaker 3: you're strong, because the more you kind of like you
Speaker 3: show fear, they're just like, hey, I'm in you know,
Speaker 3: psychologically weak, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so you know.
Speaker 3: So so that's what I do now. You know, if
Speaker 3: we come across anything that basically you know, is on
Speaker 3: that kind of paranormal realm and it's kind of being
Speaker 3: a little bit threatening, I insonally, I'm back at it.
Speaker 2: I'm at it straight away, and it's like back off.
Speaker 3: You can't, you know, you're not missing with me, Just
Speaker 3: back off, and you know, try and teach the kids
Speaker 3: the same thing. It's just like you've got to stay strong,
Speaker 3: you know, you call on your angels or whatever, and
Speaker 3: you will, you know, you tell.
Speaker 2: Them to back off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big thing for people, you know who
Speaker 3: are having these experiences who are absolutely terrified and you know,
Speaker 3: fear enough. You know, they are terrifying, but you have
Speaker 3: to stand up. You've got to kind of find that
Speaker 3: kind of in a strength.
Speaker 2: And go, you know what, get lost.
Speaker 3: You know, many times, ay, we just want to get out, just.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I think you know, these
Speaker 2: spirits are bound to the laws of earth, the spiritual
Speaker 2: realm or this dimension of earth, and they have to
Speaker 2: do what the law states they have to do, right,
Speaker 2: and you have the right as a human to tell
Speaker 2: them to go away and be in the name of
Speaker 2: Jesus Christ or the name of your angels or whatever
Speaker 2: for protection. You have the right to tell them to
Speaker 2: go away, and they have to abide by that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's many different ways, you know, and this
Speaker 3: is kind of one of the areas that you know
Speaker 3: that we are going to look into it.
Speaker 2: It's like how.
Speaker 3: Different religions and how different spiritual people and non spiritual
Speaker 3: people when they're having these kind of experiences, you know,
Speaker 3: different ways to protect yourself. You know, it's not you
Speaker 3: don't have to be a religious person to protect yourself.
Speaker 3: You know, there are ways out there that you can
Speaker 3: so yeah, it's yeah, there's lots of different things to
Speaker 3: kind of look into it, and that will be something
Speaker 3: that we go.
Speaker 2: Into as that protection side of things. So it will
Speaker 2: be very interesting, very very interesting.
Speaker 3: So we're talking to like religious leaders and people like
Speaker 3: pagan the witchcraft communities and just spiritual people and yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's so you can kind of take a little
Speaker 3: bit of everything. It's just like, you know, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: hit you with us, and I'm gonna hit you with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to really hit you with this. Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 2: And I think that's so important to have a really
Speaker 2: solid toolkit of things that you can use.
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