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<v Speaker 1>At a Women's Society, Walking in the Shadows The Cult

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<v Speaker 1>Edition at a Women's Society.

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<v Speaker 2>Or Walking in the Shadows the Culturition.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome to Crypto Women's Society and our new series as

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<v Speaker 3>Stories from the Arcane Library.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Juliette and I'm Lisa, and today's first episode is

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<v Speaker 2>about Poltergeist. We are so excited to talk to you

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<v Speaker 2>about this because we've had our own personal experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, yeah, yeah, we definitely had. We lived in

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<v Speaker 3>a house in Wellington and Nio and we had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of activity, so we can't wait to kind of

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<v Speaker 3>chat about that and also, you know, kind of other

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<v Speaker 3>bits and pieces that we've learned.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, one hundred percent, you know, and poltr guys

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<v Speaker 2>can be really scary, and I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the media that we've had kind of dumped into our

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<v Speaker 2>brains with Hollywood and that sort of stuff, is that

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<v Speaker 2>poltergeists are evil and demonic and really really super scary.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think one of the things that we want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk to today about is kind of what sort

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<v Speaker 2>of levels of Poltergeist activity there are and the differences

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<v Speaker 2>between them. Not everything is demonic and not everything is

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<v Speaker 2>super scary as Juliet keeps telling me and teaching me

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<v Speaker 2>about you know, I'm not really well versed in the

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<v Speaker 2>whole paranormal thing. Juliet is far more knowledgeable than I am,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she's forever saying to me, not everything's bad, Lisa.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's it, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, we had you know what we're saying,

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<v Speaker 3>We had our own activity in the house, which was like,

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<v Speaker 3>it was super scary, but it was also like you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of got to the point where're like, we got again,

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<v Speaker 3>ye yeah, yeah, and I think.

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<v Speaker 2>We can tell them to just go away, right, We

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<v Speaker 2>just got to the point where were like, seriously, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>go away. You just didn't realize I'm tired, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to go to sleep. I've had enough of you. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but no, it's it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>So looking into this, we did like a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of research and you know, kind of looking everything from

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<v Speaker 3>you know, where does the word poltergeist come from? And

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<v Speaker 3>pop culture and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the things that.

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<v Speaker 3>We learned is that the weird polta guys originates from

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<v Speaker 3>the German language, which is something that I did not know.

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<v Speaker 3>So polta means to make a noise, and geist means

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<v Speaker 3>spirit or ghost, so so polter guyst literally means noisy

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<v Speaker 3>spirit or rattling ghost in English. So that's where the

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<v Speaker 3>weird poltar ghist came from. So that's quite yeah. I

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<v Speaker 3>found that quite interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>So and I think, you know, there's been so many

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<v Speaker 2>stories and encounters, you know, poltergeist or poltergeist activities been

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<v Speaker 2>around for what eons generations all throughout the world, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not centered on one specific location. Globally, you get

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<v Speaker 2>that sort of activity everywhere, right, And one of the

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<v Speaker 2>interesting things that I kind of researched and found out

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<v Speaker 2>was the viewpoint that poltergeist activity is attached to certain

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<v Speaker 2>people of certain ages. And I thought that was really

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting. And I don't know if that's correct, because

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<v Speaker 2>the more I think about the theory around pre pubescent

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<v Speaker 2>children and girls specifically that this poltergeist activity centered around,

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<v Speaker 2>I think to myself, well, actually, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>poltergeist activity that is a centered around older women and

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<v Speaker 2>men as well, And the stories that we're encountering and

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<v Speaker 2>starting to be told makes me kind of question that

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<v Speaker 2>theory altogether, that this poltergeist activity is really focused on

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<v Speaker 2>these young their children. So what are your thoughts on there, Juliette.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so it's literally like, yeah, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 3>all down to pibcent girls and stuff like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and like we're saying from our own experiences, but also

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<v Speaker 3>from encounters that you know, we've read about and heard about.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I think, you know, there's there's possibly two

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<v Speaker 3>sides of it, like you know, like there is with

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<v Speaker 3>the activity, there could be some maybe some of it

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<v Speaker 3>is demonic activity, some of it as polter guy, some

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<v Speaker 3>of it as spirits, you know, or somebody just trying

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<v Speaker 3>basically on the other side, trying to get our attention.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, so I don't think everything is malevolent. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so I mean that's kind of what we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>a little little chat about and yeah, kind of have

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<v Speaker 3>a have a few stories and kind of see where

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<v Speaker 3>they fit, I reckon, Yeah, and see if we can

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<v Speaker 3>make those connections, I guess, And I guess like this

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<v Speaker 3>whole like this whole space, the supernatural space is.

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<v Speaker 2>Really about kind of trying to find your own direction,

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<v Speaker 2>find your own way, and how do you make these

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<v Speaker 2>connections make sense with your belief systems, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not you believe in seances or ouiji boards

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<v Speaker 2>or you know, anything kind of around that sort of space.

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<v Speaker 2>It's how do I make those connections and what parts

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<v Speaker 2>are relevant to me and what parts resonate with me?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah. So one of the things, sorry to interrupt

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<v Speaker 2>you there, One of the things that I've been looking

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<v Speaker 2>into as well, is is kinetic energy and how spirits

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<v Speaker 2>use kinetic energy to you know, emf and that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff, to rimpods, to make spirit boxes work, to

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<v Speaker 2>all of those sort of things where you have lights

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<v Speaker 2>going off or music sounding. How do these spirits use

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<v Speaker 2>the energy or how do they gather that energy to

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<v Speaker 2>then create a poltergeist activity where something's flying across the

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<v Speaker 2>room or you know, you see the these videos where

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<v Speaker 2>these chairs are sliding across the room. I've never been

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<v Speaker 2>experienced experienced anything like that before, Thank goodness. I think

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<v Speaker 2>that would scare a living shit out of me, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'd run away. But I saw a video the other

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<v Speaker 2>day of a of a woman who put a baby

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<v Speaker 2>into a you know, one of those play pens inside

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<v Speaker 2>the lounge, and the whole thing slid itself down towards

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<v Speaker 2>the front door along the lounge, and I just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of think there's so that must house so much kinetic

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<v Speaker 2>energy to be able to create that sort of force.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a massive amount of built up energy within that

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<v Speaker 2>space that that that spirit's using. So that was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of my question.

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<v Speaker 3>A few cases in there where like very young children

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<v Speaker 3>have been kind of you could say attacked, but you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like kind of knocked over. And you know, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>another one with a young a young child probably about

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen months old, basically knocked off their feet.

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<v Speaker 2>You can you can literally see this.

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<v Speaker 3>Cad go flying. So yeah, you know, so stuff like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're kind of like, yeah, you're you're kind of getting

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit on the nasty side. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it.

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<v Speaker 2>All depends on you know, is it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, then you've got to think about are they

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<v Speaker 3>connected to you, are they connected to your family as

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<v Speaker 3>this you know, an upset spirit, or is it just

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<v Speaker 3>somewhere that's kind of from that place, from the area,

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<v Speaker 3>or have they just popped in you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that's what we had right at the NaIO House.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a giant portal funnel that would just spit

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<v Speaker 2>out spirits left, right and center, and we had the

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<v Speaker 2>occasional that would hang around and that were kind of

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<v Speaker 2>bound to the house, and then others that would just

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<v Speaker 2>show up and pop their hidden and then leave, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, open a cupboard and you know some stuff. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>some stuff around and then leave. Yeah, we had a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of activities.

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<v Speaker 3>So we got some professionals to and basically that was

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<v Speaker 3>their view is that this is just and it wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>just one. There were a couple totally totally different said

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing that there was almost like this portal

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<v Speaker 3>that they're all coming here. And yeah, I mean, so

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<v Speaker 3>we had a range of different activity. We definitely had

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<v Speaker 3>some nasty stuff in that house. Nearly everyone that came

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<v Speaker 3>into that house saw something, even my mum. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 3>it was yeah, it was the whole Nio house.

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<v Speaker 2>Was oh yeah yeah. And I mean I've had some

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<v Speaker 2>other experiences that we can talk about, and I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>you have as well, Juliet, outside of that house as well.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of the things that I researched was the

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<v Speaker 2>idea that there's an EPI center. Yeah, so can I

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<v Speaker 2>just read you this real quickly because I found this

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<v Speaker 2>quite interesting. This person wrote Poultergeist are centered on one

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<v Speaker 2>person known as the epi center. The epicenter is typically

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<v Speaker 2>an adolescent going through puberty, usually girls or adoless. It's

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<v Speaker 2>going through a lot of emotional distress. So that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of my research that I came from. But once an

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<v Speaker 2>epicenter releases a vast amount of negative emotions of polder

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<v Speaker 2>Geist can can sorry, so it can form the epicenter's

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<v Speaker 2>kinetic energy, so it can take that epicenter's kinetic energy.

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<v Speaker 2>Another instance can occur if a spirit feeds off this

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<v Speaker 2>a negative energy and becomes Poltergeist like entities. So I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that's kind of what you were talking about in

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<v Speaker 2>regards to kind of, you know, something a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>more negative and a little bit more angry.

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<v Speaker 3>That's kind of like what they're saying, Like they don't

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<v Speaker 3>see poltar geyst as traditional ghosts or spirits of the decease,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're thought to be more manifestations of like psychic energy.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's basically what you're descented. Yes, so centered on

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<v Speaker 3>that one person, Yeah, which is which is really interesting

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, we read some cases where that hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>really been the cases. You know, there's been a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of people in the houses you know, we've got a

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<v Speaker 3>very famous case here in Australia and that's the same

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<v Speaker 3>thing I just forgot the name of it in the

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<v Speaker 3>Northern Territories called the Humpty Do Politics started my story.

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<v Speaker 2>Hope you do polar guys. Yeah, so he will do.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a kind of a story that we will do

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<v Speaker 3>like a we'll do a short story on it and

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<v Speaker 3>we'll put that up as well, because that's really really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>And we also have the Guyraghos, which was they think

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<v Speaker 3>was manifested around a twelve year old girl called Mini.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so it.

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<v Speaker 3>Was really kind of interesting interesting stories.

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<v Speaker 2>So I wait to put those up. And it was interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>We had this conversation like yesterday or the day before,

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about Poltergeist and kind of getting ready

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<v Speaker 2>for this episode, and Juliet and I were talking about

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<v Speaker 2>kind of why we had so much activity in the

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<v Speaker 2>Nio house and was it centered around us or was

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<v Speaker 2>it centered around her and we had children in the

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<v Speaker 2>house and what did that look like and why was

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<v Speaker 2>there so much activity. I mean, we saw full apparitions there.

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<v Speaker 2>We had a lot of Poltergeist movement and activity around

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<v Speaker 2>and I think the thing that we kind of looked

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<v Speaker 2>at as we started pinpointing, going oh yeah, oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a bit of financial struggle, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of emotional struggle. There was teenagers and kids, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was a lot of stuff going on in that house, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So when you kind of step out and you look

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<v Speaker 2>into it from the outside perspective, we were able to go, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand why.

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<v Speaker 3>Now at that point, we were just loving at We

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<v Speaker 3>were just like, you know, we were surviving. We were

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we were young, we had kids, we were

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<v Speaker 3>trying to survive, and you know, everybody else that was

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's the same thing. But yeah, yeah, really

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<v Speaker 3>really really interesting. But yeah, I mean we you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we even physically got hurt the you know, I was hat.

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<v Speaker 3>I was basically went downstairs trying to do a blessing

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<v Speaker 3>will never forget that, And that was like such a

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<v Speaker 3>shock to me. I was just like it was a

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<v Speaker 3>extra out now. So we left the house, like I

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<v Speaker 3>basically chucked the kids in the car and I left,

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was just like I was so shocked. I

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<v Speaker 3>me was really not nice. Yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, like we said, we had a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of activity in that house, but it wasn't always bad,

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<v Speaker 2>It was just sometimes it became very annoying. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean, this is the thing. It's unnerving right

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<v Speaker 2>allow you to settle right. It's moving things and it's

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<v Speaker 2>showing its presence, and it's really unnerving to have to

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<v Speaker 2>live in that space. I'm sure anyone that's had any

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<v Speaker 2>sort of politiceist experience in there in their house that

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<v Speaker 2>they've lived with, it's it's a really unnerving thing and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to get help with it. Do you have

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<v Speaker 2>any stories, real quick jewels that you want to go into.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you want to go into those Australian ones?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so Overview would be really well girl, what is

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<v Speaker 3>it called it?

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<v Speaker 2>The Guira Ghost?

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<v Speaker 3>So this was in early nineteen twenty one, This was

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<v Speaker 3>a new South Wales. So the guyra Goes terrorized William Bowen,

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<v Speaker 3>his wife Catherine and their three children, and they're like

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<v Speaker 3>little cottage. It started up started with like loud thumping,

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<v Speaker 3>and over days they started to become knocking.

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<v Speaker 2>On the walls.

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<v Speaker 3>Stones were being thrown onto the roof and outside the

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<v Speaker 3>walls of the house. On the third night, shut bangs

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<v Speaker 3>were heard on the inside of the house and it

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<v Speaker 3>literally shook the cottage. Almost all the windows in the

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<v Speaker 3>cottage were smashed out. None of the family could find

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<v Speaker 3>the source of what was going on, although they were

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<v Speaker 3>saying most of the activity was around twelve year old

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<v Speaker 3>daughter Mini. So Ben Davy he was a student of spiritualism,

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<v Speaker 3>and he visited the bow And house and he learned

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<v Speaker 3>that May, their other daughter, Catherine, had died about three

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<v Speaker 3>months earlier. So again there was a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there was tragedy. There was a lot of emotions and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like this. He told the Sunday Times that he

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<v Speaker 3>suspected that May, the deceased sister, was trying to get

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<v Speaker 3>in contact with Minnie. So that was kind of what

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<v Speaker 3>he went on. So when he was kind of with

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<v Speaker 3>Minnie one night and he said to he said, look,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you hear any knocking, he says, I

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<v Speaker 3>want you to speak to her and ask her if

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<v Speaker 3>it's your sister May. And she was very, very reluctant

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<v Speaker 3>to do this to start with, but then some knocks

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<v Speaker 3>started happening, and so he said, like literally all the

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<v Speaker 3>hair stood up on the back of his neck and hands,

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<v Speaker 3>and he was just like, oh my god. So he

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<v Speaker 3>continued to kind of say to Minnie, please, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>ask her if it was May.

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<v Speaker 2>So she turned around.

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<v Speaker 3>She goes, is that you May, you speak to me?

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<v Speaker 3>And then she went really really quiet for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she just started crying. And he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>did May speak to you? And she goes, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>tell you. It's a message for my mum. And so

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<v Speaker 3>she ran to her mum and said the message and

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<v Speaker 3>she said, tell mother that I am in heaven and

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<v Speaker 3>I am quite happy her.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell her it was her prayers.

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<v Speaker 3>That got me here, and I will look after her

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<v Speaker 3>for the rest of my life. So which was really yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the family ended up holding seances try and contact

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<v Speaker 3>the ghosts they believed it to be the daughter. The

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<v Speaker 3>police even arrived at the house and kept watch over

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<v Speaker 3>the house because basically it just became so extreme. So

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<v Speaker 3>they were trying to figure out as if somebody from

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<v Speaker 3>the outside doing this or you know, and the locals

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<v Speaker 3>were absolutely terrified. They armed themselves. They were sleeping with

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<v Speaker 3>guns and weffons.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So, and also within that time, a five year old

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<v Speaker 3>boy found a pistol on the bedroom tape he thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was a toy and accidentally shot his six year

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<v Speaker 3>old sister. That kind of like went on. Yeah, so it.

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<v Speaker 2>Was in the same house or the same time.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the same town because this was almost like

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<v Speaker 3>this hysteria kind of took over the town.

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<v Speaker 2>I understand. So the so the father or the mother

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<v Speaker 2>was so worried they left their gun on the table

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping with them.

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<v Speaker 3>So upset about all this activity, I know. But the

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<v Speaker 3>little spiked but she apparently has a bulletin head, so

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<v Speaker 3>she laughed at it isn't amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>How so much hysteria can take over, you know, over

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<v Speaker 2>something that is just not not tangible. You can't hold

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<v Speaker 2>it in your hands.

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<v Speaker 3>You know. So, I mean, so when the police arrived,

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<v Speaker 3>apparently one of the policemen was so affected by the

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<v Speaker 3>activity he had to be sent away because it just

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<v Speaker 3>like he couldn't deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so, you know, so it's really interesting that the

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<v Speaker 3>police were brought in in this case as well. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so so basically, yeah, it just finally kind of went through.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a little thing about Minnie basically saying that

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<v Speaker 3>she was They explained that she was a poltergeist medium

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<v Speaker 3>and this is what they see, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>you know, back in this time, he considered like a

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<v Speaker 3>general said, he considered her a little odd. She was

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<v Speaker 3>tall and thin, dark hair, She had introspective eyes that

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<v Speaker 3>never seemed to miss any movement in the room, and

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<v Speaker 3>when she speaks, she never smiled and seems to look

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<v Speaker 3>beyond or through you. And she said she had a

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<v Speaker 3>rather and kenny aptitude for anticipating questions before they were asked.

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<v Speaker 2>So maybe psychic abilities.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so maybe psychic abilities. So and the thing about

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<v Speaker 3>May's deaths, so this is where it kind of gets

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit thingy because there they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>Really sure how she died. So one story.

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<v Speaker 3>So she was a single mum, she had a childhod wedlock,

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<v Speaker 3>so again you know, that was a stress on the family.

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<v Speaker 3>So they there were two accounts of May's death. One

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<v Speaker 3>was that she died after a botched aborshit and one

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<v Speaker 3>that she threw herself into a water hole and drowned herself.

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<v Speaker 3>So again, you know, again it's that, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 3>that kind of activity of that stress, those you know, emotions,

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<v Speaker 3>So there is quite you know, a possibility that that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of went on, but a few So here's another

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<v Speaker 3>thing to it is a few days before the haunting began,

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<v Speaker 3>there had been an unexplained disappearance of an eighty seven

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<v Speaker 3>year old Irish woman, missus Doran. So on the fifth

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<v Speaker 3>of April, a farm worker reported seeing mister Ram walking

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<v Speaker 3>across the fields with a potato in each hand. She

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<v Speaker 3>topped over her eyes and then she was just basically gone.

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<v Speaker 3>After search parties had thoroughly searched the entire area she

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<v Speaker 3>there was just no trace of her.

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<v Speaker 2>She just basically disappeared.

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<v Speaker 3>So so that's kind of a yeah, potatoes, So she

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<v Speaker 3>had a potato in each hand and basically.

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<v Speaker 2>Just walked off into the distance and disappeared, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of And then I heard another disturbing thing, which

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's true, so I have not

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<v Speaker 3>been able to find anything, but it's about how Minie died,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was basically that she was hit by a

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<v Speaker 3>vehicle and decapitated when she was like in her eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just like, well, okay, yeah, I mean that

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<v Speaker 3>there is a lot of stories and evidence around people

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<v Speaker 3>that have poldergeist activity and this sort of stuff when

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<v Speaker 3>they're younger.

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<v Speaker 2>It follows them through life, you know, And it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like Mini had some sort of psychic ability to end

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<v Speaker 2>a channel or connect or whatever, and she probably experienced

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<v Speaker 2>that throughout her.

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<v Speaker 3>Whole life, right, And it'd be really interesting to talk to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, and try and find information of people around

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<v Speaker 3>her at that time, you know, if anything else kind

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<v Speaker 3>of happened. But you know, but you know, like back then,

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<v Speaker 3>it was seen. It's such a bad thing, you know it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was almost like you're a watch. You

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<v Speaker 3>were shunned, you were basically you're chucked into mental hospitals.

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<v Speaker 2>You know all that kind of stuff. Well, that whole family, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>that whole family. I mean, like, you know, Minie's mum

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<v Speaker 2>being a solo mother out of wedlock, that's you know, strike.

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<v Speaker 3>Mini sister may that died, so a bigger pardon.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mini's sister out of wedlock, that's your first you know,

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<v Speaker 2>negative cross, especially back in Australia in those times where

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<v Speaker 2>Juliet was saying there's so many mental asylums and psychiatric

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<v Speaker 2>units that that women were just shoved into. There was

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<v Speaker 2>something like I think the numbers were above five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty a year women that were put into asylums.

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<v Speaker 2>That's five hundred and fifty women a year. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>huge number that were just put in. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the reasons that you could go to being committed to

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<v Speaker 2>an asylum was if you read novels, if you were

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<v Speaker 2>a novel reader and thought, Juliet, she's a goner, especially

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<v Speaker 2>the novels I read. That's the dungeon talk. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>know there was ridiculous reasons to put women in these

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<v Speaker 2>asylums and in these mental hospitals to be lobotomized, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we went to an asylum and it was

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<v Speaker 2>just horrendous and to think that, you know, these women

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<v Speaker 2>were thrown in there for what having sex, out of marriage,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, out of wedlocks, feeling or yeah, just or

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<v Speaker 2>the kids stole something and then they got put in

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<v Speaker 2>with them and oh yeah, but being too excited about life,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you dare get too excited about life? You go

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<v Speaker 2>to well, if you're a novel reader as well, obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you're too excited about life.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the other things was like with May's daughter,

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<v Speaker 3>I think she was about eighteen months old, basically was

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<v Speaker 3>given to Minnie to raise, so Minnie had to look

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<v Speaker 3>after her, you know. So again it's yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 5>Very much trauma and negative energy and oh yeah, yeah, yeah, gosh,

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<v Speaker 5>you can understand why there was so much, like just

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<v Speaker 5>such full on polder Geist activity.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have those different levels of polder Geist activity,

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<v Speaker 2>and as those stresses become, you know, more and more

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<v Speaker 2>and more, then obviously that feeds into that energy that

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit needs. Right, Yeah, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>But one thing we have learned is you know, with

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<v Speaker 3>some activity, you can actually manifest your own activity. So

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<v Speaker 3>maybe there could have been a few things happening, but

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<v Speaker 3>you know, but the family suddenly.

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<v Speaker 2>Became focused on it.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you know, then the neighbors became focused on it,

422
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<v Speaker 3>then the town became focused on it. The police were there,

423
00:24:22.599 --> 00:24:25.680
<v Speaker 3>so you know that they could have manifested you know,

424
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<v Speaker 3>even more activity.

425
00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Easily, Yeah, easily. It's that neurolinguistics, right, when everyone's thinking

426
00:24:32.960 --> 00:24:36.000
<v Speaker 2>of the same thing, then you manifest that it happens.

427
00:24:36.039 --> 00:24:38.519
<v Speaker 2>It's like the you know when you're in church or

428
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<v Speaker 2>whatever and you will pray for someone and they miraculously

429
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.880
<v Speaker 2>get healed. Well, a lot of that theory comes from

430
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:48.119
<v Speaker 2>so many people thinking in the same way, you know,

431
00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.240
<v Speaker 2>trying to manifest that and that's what you know, I

432
00:24:52.279 --> 00:24:54.880
<v Speaker 2>guess universal consciousness. Isn't it all connected?

433
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<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

434
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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's a little story, but there's but we will

435
00:24:59.880 --> 00:25:05.000
<v Speaker 3>do some amazing pictures and stuff to add to So

436
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:09.640
<v Speaker 3>that'll be amazing for our Strange Tales of the South Pacific.

437
00:25:09.759 --> 00:25:11.960
<v Speaker 2>It's such a cool story to do, and we'll put

438
00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.480
<v Speaker 2>that one together. I've got a quick story. Do you

439
00:25:14.480 --> 00:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>want to hear it? We tell me so. My story

440
00:25:19.839 --> 00:25:24.039
<v Speaker 2>comes from a news article called Pooka Koe Poltergeist. Pooka

441
00:25:24.160 --> 00:25:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Koe is in New Zealand and the North Ireland. It

442
00:25:27.359 --> 00:25:31.559
<v Speaker 2>says terrified residents call in which after ghostly encounters. And

443
00:25:31.599 --> 00:25:34.839
<v Speaker 2>I'll just read through this really quickly just to give

444
00:25:34.839 --> 00:25:38.240
<v Speaker 2>you a bit of an idea. So ghostbusters are being

445
00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.000
<v Speaker 2>brought into rid of Pooka Koe home of evil spirits

446
00:25:42.079 --> 00:25:47.480
<v Speaker 2>after terrified Filipino workers complained that it's haunted by ghules.

447
00:25:47.759 --> 00:25:52.000
<v Speaker 2>And we know Filipino people are very religious and have

448
00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>a very strong superstition when it comes to the supernatural.

449
00:26:00.240 --> 00:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>The scared men reported the troubling presence of three female

450
00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>spirits at the Old Pooka Koe Villa and have engaged

451
00:26:08.680 --> 00:26:10.880
<v Speaker 2>in services of a good witch to cast them out.

452
00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll just take you down to where they talk about

453
00:26:15.279 --> 00:26:18.359
<v Speaker 2>what's going on, so they said. The first few days

454
00:26:18.400 --> 00:26:21.960
<v Speaker 2>they were there, they came back to us and said, hey, boss, boss,

455
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:24.960
<v Speaker 2>the place is haunted. There's ladies in there, three ladies,

456
00:26:25.400 --> 00:26:30.240
<v Speaker 2>lady ghosts. And we were like, yeah, okay. But after

457
00:26:30.440 --> 00:26:33.359
<v Speaker 2>that a few things started happening and it's been non

458
00:26:33.440 --> 00:26:37.359
<v Speaker 2>stop since then. One man reported feeling a slap to

459
00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:42.000
<v Speaker 2>his face in the middle of the night, walking waking

460
00:26:42.079 --> 00:26:44.640
<v Speaker 2>up to find out that he was completely alone. That's

461
00:26:44.640 --> 00:26:49.400
<v Speaker 2>pretty scary being slapped around. The men also reported lights

462
00:26:49.400 --> 00:26:52.759
<v Speaker 2>getting turned on and off, footsteps and then running in

463
00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:56.599
<v Speaker 2>the rooms. Some of the men have claimed to hear

464
00:26:56.720 --> 00:27:02.000
<v Speaker 2>constant crying, woman crying, and one man reported experiencing a

465
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>form of sleep paralysis, you know where you can't move

466
00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.480
<v Speaker 2>when you're asleep or when you wake up and you

467
00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 2>still can't move. He said it was like something was

468
00:27:11.400 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 2>holding his legs and pinning them down to the bed.

469
00:27:16.279 --> 00:27:22.799
<v Speaker 2>And one poor guy had an uncanny encounter while he

470
00:27:22.880 --> 00:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>was on a video call to his wife in the Philippines.

471
00:27:26.000 --> 00:27:29.880
<v Speaker 2>He said, his wife got shitty at him and has

472
00:27:29.920 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 2>got stars beeping it out. His wife got shitty at

473
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.839
<v Speaker 2>him because she saw another woman behind him, and he

474
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:39.720
<v Speaker 2>swore black and blue that there was no one in there.

475
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:43.079
<v Speaker 2>The wife initially refused to believe the man's denials and

476
00:27:43.079 --> 00:27:45.799
<v Speaker 2>insisted that he was lying. She was on video call

477
00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 2>with him she saw a woman behind him. He said

478
00:27:49.599 --> 00:27:52.920
<v Speaker 2>that the workers had leaned on their strong Catholic faith

479
00:27:52.960 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 2>to deal with the issue. Relating in a conversation with

480
00:27:56.279 --> 00:27:59.079
<v Speaker 2>one of the terrified men, he said, in the name

481
00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.119
<v Speaker 2>of Jesus, please just leave us alone. And it didn't work.

482
00:28:05.119 --> 00:28:09.359
<v Speaker 2>So now so now the men are praying every night

483
00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:12.119
<v Speaker 2>to try and keep them safe. They're, you know, holding

484
00:28:12.119 --> 00:28:13.880
<v Speaker 2>the Bible and all this sort of stuff nice and

485
00:28:13.920 --> 00:28:16.880
<v Speaker 2>close to their beds, but basically they just keep the

486
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:22.839
<v Speaker 2>wardrobe closed door the wardrobe door closed, and they try

487
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 2>desperately to not call their wives.

488
00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:34.880
<v Speaker 4>On video call from the Philippe, that poor man, we

489
00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 4>shouldn't laugh because they're obviously pictures fight of it, but

490
00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:39.680
<v Speaker 4>they said.

491
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:43.279
<v Speaker 2>They're still getting you know, woman's crying and crying voices

492
00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:45.720
<v Speaker 2>in the night and all of that sort of stuff.

493
00:28:45.759 --> 00:28:49.160
<v Speaker 2>So obviously whoever's in that house did not want them

494
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.799
<v Speaker 2>to come in to be there. When was this? So

495
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:56.599
<v Speaker 2>I think this is quite recent. I'm sorry, I'll just

496
00:28:56.920 --> 00:29:01.359
<v Speaker 2>pull this back up again. This will was published a

497
00:29:01.480 --> 00:29:10.000
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and twenty. Ah, you poor boys. Yeah, so

498
00:29:10.240 --> 00:29:14.119
<v Speaker 2>it's quite interesting that the conversation or the article is

499
00:29:14.200 --> 00:29:16.559
<v Speaker 2>kind of written like a conversation, and it goes into

500
00:29:16.640 --> 00:29:18.599
<v Speaker 2>like kind of what the good witch is going to do.

501
00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 2>It's going to go in and you know, cleanse the

502
00:29:20.599 --> 00:29:22.880
<v Speaker 2>house and all that sort of stuff. There hasn't been

503
00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:27.759
<v Speaker 2>a follow up report yet, track them down, track down

504
00:29:27.759 --> 00:29:30.440
<v Speaker 2>the house. I might do. I might do, But I

505
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>just kind of thought it really highlights when there is

506
00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:39.319
<v Speaker 2>spiritual activity in a house and it's associated and connected

507
00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 2>to that house. If you walk into their unknowingly, then

508
00:29:43.599 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>you're going to get the wrath of whatever energy is

509
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 2>in that space. And I find there's a lot of

510
00:29:49.240 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 2>people that walk straight into these sort of spaces and

511
00:29:51.960 --> 00:29:55.799
<v Speaker 2>don't pay respect to the house itself and to the

512
00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:58.119
<v Speaker 2>energy that's already in there. They just walk straight in

513
00:29:58.160 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 2>and pick up on it straight away, whereas they don't

514
00:30:01.880 --> 00:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>pick up on it straight away, and whereas like sometimes

515
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:05.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, you and I have.

516
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:09.319
<v Speaker 3>Walked into buildings and go oh oh oh.

517
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be here. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah absolutely,

518
00:30:13.640 --> 00:30:16.440
<v Speaker 2>and you know, like you know, you get the spine

519
00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:20.079
<v Speaker 2>tingly kind of goose bumps and you know when you're

520
00:30:20.119 --> 00:30:22.920
<v Speaker 2>not meant to be there. I remember we were sitting

521
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>there and the cats.

522
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:27.160
<v Speaker 3>Remember we had all three cats that were on the

523
00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:29.920
<v Speaker 3>couch with us with the fire going watching TV, and

524
00:30:30.519 --> 00:30:34.640
<v Speaker 3>all three cats literally just jumped up like they.

525
00:30:34.880 --> 00:30:38.079
<v Speaker 6>Sucked up and they were like and We're all like

526
00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 6>ohkay yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, very much so, right, And

527
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:49.279
<v Speaker 6>it's interesting, right, those cats, they never they were pretty worldly.

528
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Cats, right. They spent a lot of time outside. They

529
00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>used to bring in bush rents and wetters and all

530
00:30:55.440 --> 00:30:56.519
<v Speaker 2>of those sort of things.

531
00:30:57.319 --> 00:31:05.079
<v Speaker 3>They and what's right, yabby, but many crayfish what the

532
00:31:05.119 --> 00:31:05.839
<v Speaker 3>hell are they called?

533
00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Crayfish? Shrimp?

534
00:31:12.000 --> 00:31:16.359
<v Speaker 3>I don't yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right, yeah, absolutely, So

535
00:31:16.440 --> 00:31:19.240
<v Speaker 3>they were really, you know, they were worldly cats.

536
00:31:19.279 --> 00:31:22.000
<v Speaker 2>They knew what everything was. But men they had a

537
00:31:22.000 --> 00:31:26.039
<v Speaker 2>few moments where they were puffed up like little puff

538
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.839
<v Speaker 2>balls and hiding in a corner and all of a

539
00:31:28.880 --> 00:31:32.440
<v Speaker 2>sudden disappeared, right yeah, yeah, and their eyes would be

540
00:31:32.440 --> 00:31:35.640
<v Speaker 2>like booms when you're like, oh, what they seeing? What

541
00:31:35.799 --> 00:31:38.880
<v Speaker 2>are they saying? Yeah, what's going on? Yeah? What's going

542
00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 2>on over there? Anyway, good story without being in storytime yet? Yeah, okay,

543
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:48.160
<v Speaker 2>my bad. So Juliet, you're going to do first. Yeah.

544
00:31:48.200 --> 00:31:50.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I'm just doing a little bit.

545
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:53.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, this is our version.

546
00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.160
<v Speaker 3>If it's wrong, then let us know. But no, kind

547
00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:01.440
<v Speaker 3>of like the differences between like Polterguy's activity and like

548
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.680
<v Speaker 3>demonic activity, you know that they can be very similar

549
00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 3>in some parts, but it's just a kind of like

550
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a difference. You know that they

551
00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:16.319
<v Speaker 3>can manifest almost in the same way. So like as

552
00:32:16.359 --> 00:32:21.039
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about Poltergeist kind of like manifestations of psychic energy,

553
00:32:21.359 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 3>you know, we kind of an individual possibly focused on that,

554
00:32:25.440 --> 00:32:28.799
<v Speaker 3>you know that they're doing, whereas your demons are quite

555
00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:30.920
<v Speaker 3>manlevolent and.

556
00:32:30.440 --> 00:32:31.880
<v Speaker 2>They're spiritual entities.

557
00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:37.160
<v Speaker 3>Even though like the Poltargeist activity is it involves you know,

558
00:32:37.240 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 3>physical disturbances, objects, moving noises, you know, all that kind

559
00:32:42.920 --> 00:32:48.440
<v Speaker 3>of stuff disruptions and electrical equipment demon activity can be

560
00:32:48.480 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 3>similar where like the physical manifestations, but it's it's generally

561
00:32:54.519 --> 00:32:58.000
<v Speaker 3>a more sinister kind of occurrence kind of behind it.

562
00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 3>You know, you can get everything from possession and like

563
00:33:02.759 --> 00:33:05.559
<v Speaker 3>dark apparitions, you know that that kind of stuff. I

564
00:33:05.559 --> 00:33:08.599
<v Speaker 3>think that the feel kind of generally if you really

565
00:33:08.640 --> 00:33:10.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of feel it in the house, you would probably

566
00:33:10.759 --> 00:33:13.599
<v Speaker 3>sense that there's like a bit of a darker entity there.

567
00:33:13.720 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, are we talking shadow people as far as like

568
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 2>those of manifest that.

569
00:33:20.880 --> 00:33:23.599
<v Speaker 3>That's a you know there are you know, there are

570
00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:25.319
<v Speaker 3>a lot of shadow people. I mean, we we had

571
00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:26.240
<v Speaker 3>one in the Naia.

572
00:33:26.079 --> 00:33:30.839
<v Speaker 2>House who we named George. Talk about George. We we

573
00:33:31.039 --> 00:33:32.359
<v Speaker 2>literally had a.

574
00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 3>Shadow he was a hat man and as we found

575
00:33:35.240 --> 00:33:40.079
<v Speaker 3>out from Heidi Hollis. Yeah, so that that's our whole

576
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:41.119
<v Speaker 3>different story of that one.

577
00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:44.079
<v Speaker 2>And that was such a funny conversation, right. We we

578
00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:48.680
<v Speaker 2>had this conversation with Heidi Hollis, who essentially named hat

579
00:33:48.759 --> 00:33:53.240
<v Speaker 2>man and shadow people, and she said, ah, sounds like

580
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:55.160
<v Speaker 2>you had a hat man and we were like, oh,

581
00:33:55.559 --> 00:33:58.720
<v Speaker 2>he was, and we have never heard of it before.

582
00:33:58.759 --> 00:34:00.240
<v Speaker 2>We just called him George.

583
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.160
<v Speaker 3>We just called him George because everybody's saw George, and

584
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:06.279
<v Speaker 3>if George gave you a fright, you'd be like, George,

585
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:08.079
<v Speaker 3>would you just stop at can you just go.

586
00:34:08.119 --> 00:34:09.559
<v Speaker 2>Away to freak out?

587
00:34:10.000 --> 00:34:10.199
<v Speaker 6>You know?

588
00:34:10.280 --> 00:34:12.960
<v Speaker 3>And that was literally kind of our attitude towards him

589
00:34:12.960 --> 00:34:13.559
<v Speaker 3>in the end, was.

590
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:18.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, George, stop it. Yeah, And so what would

591
00:34:18.280 --> 00:34:20.960
<v Speaker 2>you what would you call George? Where would he fit

592
00:34:21.119 --> 00:34:26.000
<v Speaker 2>into that kind of list that you've got, Oh, God.

593
00:34:26.039 --> 00:34:28.519
<v Speaker 3>Like, I wouldn't call him a pold guys, but I

594
00:34:28.559 --> 00:34:33.119
<v Speaker 3>also wouldn't call him like a demon like you know what.

595
00:34:33.360 --> 00:34:36.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like, I don't think he was either, even though

596
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:40.519
<v Speaker 3>hat Man is supposed to be around when there is

597
00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:42.679
<v Speaker 3>like kind of he's on the darker side.

598
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:43.960
<v Speaker 2>He's like a darker entity.

599
00:34:45.719 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean, apart from scaring the crap out of us

600
00:34:48.960 --> 00:34:53.800
<v Speaker 3>on occasions, we never really felt any And I think that's,

601
00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:55.639
<v Speaker 3>you know, because because that's why we named him, and

602
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:59.280
<v Speaker 3>that's why when it's like, oh, it's just George, I think,

603
00:34:59.360 --> 00:35:04.079
<v Speaker 3>you know it, we never got that real menacing, menacing

604
00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:05.679
<v Speaker 3>kind of feel about having.

605
00:35:06.199 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

606
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:10.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So whereas you know, there was definitely other and

607
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:15.119
<v Speaker 3>other stuff in the house that was extremely menacing or

608
00:35:15.199 --> 00:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, possibly the demonic activity, which you know you

609
00:35:18.000 --> 00:35:24.559
<v Speaker 3>look back now and kind of go okay, yeah, like

610
00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.559
<v Speaker 3>so you know, so pot of guys are kind of

611
00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:32.159
<v Speaker 3>they're associated with being a little bit mischievous and they

612
00:35:32.440 --> 00:35:34.360
<v Speaker 3>you know, I was saying, they're kind of linked to

613
00:35:34.440 --> 00:35:38.159
<v Speaker 3>emotional and psychological kind of turmoil and stuff like that.

614
00:35:39.880 --> 00:35:43.519
<v Speaker 3>So and your demons are kind of like they're they're

615
00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 3>there to harm you. They're there to kind of cause you,

616
00:35:47.320 --> 00:35:53.320
<v Speaker 3>like just stress that, to scare you, to frighten you,

617
00:35:53.320 --> 00:35:55.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, and the position side of it, you know,

618
00:35:55.440 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 3>which is absolutely terrifying, you know, to to kind of

619
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.599
<v Speaker 3>be in that kind of stuff. And also you know,

620
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.519
<v Speaker 3>your demons are kind of they're more interpreted with a

621
00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 3>religious kind of context and framework around them, you know,

622
00:36:09.519 --> 00:36:12.599
<v Speaker 3>where you end up having to bring in you know,

623
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.559
<v Speaker 3>like your Catholic priests and you know, anything to Christianity

624
00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:19.719
<v Speaker 3>and stuff where you know, they're considered agents of evil,

625
00:36:19.760 --> 00:36:21.639
<v Speaker 3>aren't they. So you know, so it's like, you know,

626
00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:23.719
<v Speaker 3>so you bring in priests and you know, you can

627
00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:26.800
<v Speaker 3>do your exorcisms and you know, or bless your house

628
00:36:26.880 --> 00:36:30.679
<v Speaker 3>and that kind of stuff, you know, whereas you you know,

629
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:34.159
<v Speaker 3>your pod guys activity. You don't necessarily need to do that,

630
00:36:35.199 --> 00:36:38.320
<v Speaker 3>even though there's been some you know, some cases, you know,

631
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:41.639
<v Speaker 3>like the case that we spoke about before and the

632
00:36:41.679 --> 00:36:45.599
<v Speaker 3>Northern Territories, what was it called the the boot one?

633
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, I forgot the name. Humpty do house

634
00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:52.800
<v Speaker 3>you do case, we're basically priest Swinton and had knights

635
00:36:52.840 --> 00:36:53.639
<v Speaker 3>thrown at them.

636
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.760
<v Speaker 2>So but the knight that was thrown at.

637
00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:00.599
<v Speaker 3>The priest literally stopped about half of it away from

638
00:37:00.639 --> 00:37:04.159
<v Speaker 3>him and dropped to the ground.

639
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:07.639
<v Speaker 2>The humpy case, we haven't been through that.

640
00:37:08.199 --> 00:37:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Maybe that thing we'll talk about later, so that that

641
00:37:12.199 --> 00:37:14.039
<v Speaker 3>is like a case that you know that we're going

642
00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:15.559
<v Speaker 3>to do with the short story. But yeah, they were

643
00:37:15.599 --> 00:37:18.480
<v Speaker 3>pre sprought into that and a lot of a lot

644
00:37:18.519 --> 00:37:21.039
<v Speaker 3>of paranormal activity activity.

645
00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.440
<v Speaker 2>And but this priest that came.

646
00:37:24.280 --> 00:37:27.880
<v Speaker 3>In seemed to think his view was like the polar

647
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 3>guice activity will never harm you. So if you had

648
00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.280
<v Speaker 3>something thrown at you, like you know, say somebody had

649
00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 3>a stone through at them, it would be like a

650
00:37:36.239 --> 00:37:39.599
<v Speaker 3>marshmallow hitting you. And I'm you know, I'm a little

651
00:37:39.639 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 3>bit kind of dubious about that.

652
00:37:41.400 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know that's a question for for our

653
00:37:44.840 --> 00:37:47.280
<v Speaker 2>watches and the comments have you ever been hit by

654
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:52.480
<v Speaker 2>something from by a poltergeist before? I'm sure those cheers

655
00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:53.920
<v Speaker 2>flying across.

656
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 7>The room wouldn't have hurt at all, you know, like

657
00:37:58.119 --> 00:38:00.840
<v Speaker 7>or you know, people being you know, the kids being dragged,

658
00:38:00.920 --> 00:38:04.800
<v Speaker 7>people being grabbed and pulled, and you know, so then

659
00:38:05.519 --> 00:38:06.639
<v Speaker 7>is that or.

660
00:38:06.519 --> 00:38:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Is that demonic?

661
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:11.199
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's a very it's a really really tricky

662
00:38:11.280 --> 00:38:12.400
<v Speaker 3>and there's.

663
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.440
<v Speaker 2>So much crossover in it, right, and I guess that's

664
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.679
<v Speaker 2>where people get confused. And it all just depends on

665
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:20.039
<v Speaker 2>what your belief system is. If you come from a

666
00:38:20.119 --> 00:38:23.880
<v Speaker 2>religious belief system, then you're immediately going to go to

667
00:38:24.039 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 2>it must be demonic, because my belief system states. So

668
00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.960
<v Speaker 2>if you come from a different belief system around you know,

669
00:38:32.079 --> 00:38:37.239
<v Speaker 2>some sort of paganism or anything else that's not generalized religion,

670
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:39.920
<v Speaker 2>then all of a sudden you're thinking, well, it's probably

671
00:38:39.960 --> 00:38:42.559
<v Speaker 2>some sort of a spirit that hasn't crossed over yet

672
00:38:42.639 --> 00:38:45.880
<v Speaker 2>or you know whatever around that sort of message.

673
00:38:46.800 --> 00:38:52.599
<v Speaker 3>Sure, yeah, and sang here just a you know, to

674
00:38:52.639 --> 00:38:55.880
<v Speaker 3>cause a bit of strife, you know, just a trickster.

675
00:38:56.079 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>Right, So then how do you categorize you categorize this stuff?

676
00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:03.679
<v Speaker 2>Or is it more guestimation.

677
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:09.119
<v Speaker 3>I think it's more guessing and also kind of your encounters,

678
00:39:09.559 --> 00:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, so if you know, like us, we had

679
00:39:11.760 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 3>our Poulter Guy's activity in the Naire house, as you know,

680
00:39:16.480 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 3>and it was scary, but it never got to the

681
00:39:19.559 --> 00:39:23.880
<v Speaker 3>point where the polterguy se activity made us run out

682
00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:28.079
<v Speaker 3>of the house. Other things did. But you know, I

683
00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:30.840
<v Speaker 3>kind of think, you know, when we look back, I

684
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 3>think it was like definitely two different things there. But yeah,

685
00:39:35.960 --> 00:39:38.679
<v Speaker 3>we were never it was more you know, like we're saying,

686
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, you'd be sitting there and stuff would go

687
00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:43.800
<v Speaker 3>flying or you hear a smash or the doors would open,

688
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 3>and you know, and you know, we do look back

689
00:39:46.599 --> 00:39:48.920
<v Speaker 3>because you know, we lived in Wellington and Wellington has

690
00:39:48.920 --> 00:39:52.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot of earthquakes, and you know, and you know,

691
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.480
<v Speaker 3>we were so used to earthquakes there, and you know

692
00:39:55.480 --> 00:39:57.599
<v Speaker 3>we had them on a regular basis, so you know,

693
00:39:57.679 --> 00:39:59.559
<v Speaker 3>some of it you kind of go, could it have

694
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:03.000
<v Speaker 3>been you know, a quick earthquake, because you do, we

695
00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:05.679
<v Speaker 3>would get jolts. You wouldn't just be like, oh, here's

696
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.880
<v Speaker 3>a lot of rumbling. It would just be one job

697
00:40:08.280 --> 00:40:11.960
<v Speaker 3>that's a boom and then like everything in the cupboards

698
00:40:11.960 --> 00:40:14.599
<v Speaker 3>the glasses. All we hear is bang and ching, and

699
00:40:14.639 --> 00:40:18.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, everything and then it's done, you know, so

700
00:40:18.280 --> 00:40:19.840
<v Speaker 3>that you know, so you do kind of take in

701
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.639
<v Speaker 3>that kind of thing, you know what.

702
00:40:22.880 --> 00:40:26.039
<v Speaker 2>I so wish that we took notes around that. I

703
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:29.119
<v Speaker 2>wonder if there was a connection with the Poldergeist activity

704
00:40:29.840 --> 00:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>and the earthquake and the volcanic activity underneath us. I mean,

705
00:40:34.400 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 2>there must have been like this build up and release

706
00:40:37.039 --> 00:40:41.719
<v Speaker 2>of energy. Damn it. We should have taken notes, I.

707
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:43.880
<v Speaker 3>Know, like the more we learn, you know, like even

708
00:40:43.920 --> 00:40:46.440
<v Speaker 3>when we lived down the South Island, we lived in Pectin,

709
00:40:46.880 --> 00:40:50.400
<v Speaker 3>and going driving from Pectin to Blenham, which was like

710
00:40:50.440 --> 00:40:53.199
<v Speaker 3>the closest big town, it's like a twenty minute drive,

711
00:40:53.760 --> 00:40:56.480
<v Speaker 3>but you can guarantee you got this little area like

712
00:40:56.559 --> 00:41:00.519
<v Speaker 3>in between it and you're crossing over this bridge, and

713
00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.480
<v Speaker 3>the odometer like on the car would spin, like it

714
00:41:03.519 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 3>would just go crazy every time said there's such a

715
00:41:07.559 --> 00:41:12.599
<v Speaker 3>huge magnetic field or lay line or fault line there

716
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.079
<v Speaker 3>that it always went off. And it was really funny

717
00:41:16.119 --> 00:41:18.000
<v Speaker 3>because like sometimes you go across it and just be

718
00:41:18.119 --> 00:41:21.679
<v Speaker 3>like a little spin and other times go absolutely insane.

719
00:41:21.800 --> 00:41:22.880
<v Speaker 2>And it got to the point.

720
00:41:22.760 --> 00:41:24.679
<v Speaker 3>Where you're like yeah, we're gonna have an earthquakes soon,

721
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:27.559
<v Speaker 3>because you just kind of knew, and like even I say,

722
00:41:27.599 --> 00:41:29.599
<v Speaker 3>you know, you've been willing to go, oh, we haven't

723
00:41:29.639 --> 00:41:31.559
<v Speaker 3>really had a little shake for a while, because we

724
00:41:31.559 --> 00:41:33.599
<v Speaker 3>were quite happy if we had lots of little shakes.

725
00:41:33.880 --> 00:41:36.239
<v Speaker 3>But then you like, we haven't had one for a while,

726
00:41:36.320 --> 00:41:38.360
<v Speaker 3>so we're probably going to have a bigger one. And

727
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:40.320
<v Speaker 3>sure enough we did. You know, you would have like

728
00:41:40.360 --> 00:41:42.480
<v Speaker 3>a like a bigger kind of a rumble and stuff

729
00:41:42.519 --> 00:41:44.719
<v Speaker 3>that would go on, and then you're kind.

730
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:47.760
<v Speaker 2>Of like, oh and we relax, yeah, and you can feel,

731
00:41:47.840 --> 00:41:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you know. I was talking to Kathy, who's a clear

732
00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>when that lives in an upper hut, who we're going

733
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:54.760
<v Speaker 2>to work with soon, and she actually messaged me and said,

734
00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:59.440
<v Speaker 2>can you feel it? And I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

735
00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.360
<v Speaker 2>you can. Let you feel the whole. Oh my god,

736
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:01.920
<v Speaker 2>here we go.

737
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

738
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so interesting. And I don't know that you know,

739
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.519
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing that tells you there's earthquakes coming, but there's

740
00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:13.800
<v Speaker 2>definitely this feeling of built up energy that you get

741
00:42:13.800 --> 00:42:16.119
<v Speaker 2>if you have any sort of connection to that sort

742
00:42:16.119 --> 00:42:19.880
<v Speaker 2>of I guess to Earth. You know that you're connected to.

743
00:42:21.440 --> 00:42:23.920
<v Speaker 3>We were in cobb and coat and the hat I

744
00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>come with you. We had glasses of wine, nice read

745
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.320
<v Speaker 3>wine and basically an earthquake hat. I can't remember her.

746
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:33.760
<v Speaker 3>It was like because we were so usedful it used

747
00:42:33.840 --> 00:42:36.239
<v Speaker 3>to it. Basically the first thing we did was grab

748
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:42.239
<v Speaker 3>our wine. We're like, whoa save the wine that I

749
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:44.000
<v Speaker 3>think it was Michelle and like we just grabbed a

750
00:42:44.039 --> 00:42:45.920
<v Speaker 3>wi We're like, way, I've got the wiel like well sway,

751
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:49.039
<v Speaker 3>Like okay, we're good. But what happened was like on

752
00:42:49.079 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 3>a table, like a couple of tables away from us

753
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:55.719
<v Speaker 3>was an American family and basically they just wanted defull

754
00:42:55.800 --> 00:42:58.280
<v Speaker 3>mode panic and just dropped.

755
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:05.400
<v Speaker 2>We were like, oh it's okay, guys. And the way

756
00:43:05.480 --> 00:43:07.840
<v Speaker 2>it just runs past is like good on your girls.

757
00:43:09.679 --> 00:43:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, that's it right. You know, we get to

758
00:43:12.000 --> 00:43:14.719
<v Speaker 2>the point where we go we're not gonna Should I

759
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.360
<v Speaker 2>get up? Now? Are you going to continue? Should I

760
00:43:17.360 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 2>get up and go underneath my doorway?

761
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:22.079
<v Speaker 3>That is like, oh okay, it's been going for longer

762
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:23.880
<v Speaker 3>than like, you know, because we've been kind of gauging

763
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:24.920
<v Speaker 3>thirty seconds.

764
00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:27.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe it's going to pick up a little bit,

765
00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:31.519
<v Speaker 2>but are you going to keep going? But isn't that interesting.

766
00:43:31.599 --> 00:43:35.679
<v Speaker 2>I think, what a what an interesting connection that we

767
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.199
<v Speaker 2>we definitely have to go a little bit further into

768
00:43:38.840 --> 00:43:42.800
<v Speaker 2>talking about, you know, energy lines, lay lines, portals, all

769
00:43:42.840 --> 00:43:44.920
<v Speaker 2>of those sort of things and whether or not that

770
00:43:45.039 --> 00:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>affects Poultergeist activity. So I think that's a really cool

771
00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.679
<v Speaker 2>connection that mad energy.

772
00:43:50.800 --> 00:43:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, a lot of electrical issues in that house,

773
00:43:55.760 --> 00:43:58.519
<v Speaker 3>say so many electrical issues in that house.

774
00:43:58.760 --> 00:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Like, hey, do you want to do you want to

775
00:44:00.760 --> 00:44:03.639
<v Speaker 2>tell some stories? Now? I think we're kind of getting

776
00:44:03.679 --> 00:44:06.840
<v Speaker 2>in there. Let's tell our stories, our little personal stories.

777
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Okay, okay, So I've had some recent activity kind of

778
00:44:12.320 --> 00:44:16.119
<v Speaker 3>like last year, which I just I have no idea.

779
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it is. But it started with

780
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:22.400
<v Speaker 3>a I was in the bathroom. I was in the shower.

781
00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:24.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you love it when they come to you in

782
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.800
<v Speaker 3>the shower? And like literally I got out. I was

783
00:44:27.840 --> 00:44:29.360
<v Speaker 3>like looking in the mirror. I was doing me here

784
00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and stuff, and this like large black thing just like

785
00:44:33.280 --> 00:44:35.400
<v Speaker 3>dropped down behind me, and all I could see in

786
00:44:35.400 --> 00:44:37.800
<v Speaker 3>the back of miles like this big, big drop. And

787
00:44:37.840 --> 00:44:40.039
<v Speaker 3>because the first thing that jumps into your into your

788
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:42.400
<v Speaker 3>head is oh my god, that was a Huntsman, so

789
00:44:42.679 --> 00:44:47.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, so like a giant spider spider. So I'm

790
00:44:47.159 --> 00:44:49.599
<v Speaker 3>like going through and like moved all the kids toys.

791
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.199
<v Speaker 3>There was literally nothing near and it was just like

792
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:53.960
<v Speaker 3>the here in the back of my neck just kind

793
00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:56.760
<v Speaker 3>of stood up. I'm like, okay, I'm just like what's

794
00:44:56.800 --> 00:44:58.760
<v Speaker 3>going on here? So it didn't I was like, okay,

795
00:44:58.800 --> 00:45:02.280
<v Speaker 3>whatever it was, I'm just like, no, bugger off. And

796
00:45:02.320 --> 00:45:04.719
<v Speaker 3>then things just kind of progressively got words like we've

797
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 3>got like curtains I don't even know how to explain,

798
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:10.119
<v Speaker 3>just like kind of slack curtains, so they will kind

799
00:45:10.119 --> 00:45:12.840
<v Speaker 3>of come down, and so they got string at the bottom,

800
00:45:12.880 --> 00:45:14.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, it kind of holds them together and so

801
00:45:14.719 --> 00:45:17.519
<v Speaker 3>you pull them across. We would be sitting there watching

802
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 3>TV and these curtains, like no heaters or anything, would

803
00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:26.280
<v Speaker 3>literally start swaying, and it was just like and you're

804
00:45:26.320 --> 00:45:29.559
<v Speaker 3>sitting there watching it and you're like, can you like

805
00:45:29.639 --> 00:45:30.599
<v Speaker 3>stop that now?

806
00:45:30.800 --> 00:45:32.719
<v Speaker 2>It's just like what's going on?

807
00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.199
<v Speaker 3>And that happened like many times, like probably a good

808
00:45:37.239 --> 00:45:39.679
<v Speaker 3>dozen times that happened. Like it was like either in

809
00:45:39.679 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 3>the kitchen, it was like in the bedrooms. I was

810
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.559
<v Speaker 3>laying in bed one night and the same thing, like

811
00:45:45.639 --> 00:45:48.000
<v Speaker 3>nothing on, no heater is on, and I got woken

812
00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.079
<v Speaker 3>to like the swishing noise. I'm like, what's going on?

813
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.760
<v Speaker 3>And I'm literally sitting in bed and my curtains are

814
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:57.000
<v Speaker 3>doing this. It was just like I'm like, Okay, You've

815
00:45:57.000 --> 00:46:02.239
<v Speaker 3>got my attention, can you please leave? But then I

816
00:46:02.440 --> 00:46:05.159
<v Speaker 3>just like every time, and I spoke to Lisa about this,

817
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 3>like I would go into the bathroom and just like

818
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:09.920
<v Speaker 3>here in the back of my neck would stand up,

819
00:46:10.000 --> 00:46:13.480
<v Speaker 3>and I just didn't feel like I was alone. And

820
00:46:15.000 --> 00:46:17.599
<v Speaker 3>what Lisa and I have called them a dirty ghost

821
00:46:17.760 --> 00:46:19.760
<v Speaker 3>because we've had a few encounters, especially in the.

822
00:46:19.800 --> 00:46:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Nio house as well.

823
00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 3>But I had my toothpaste, like I brushed through with

824
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:27.639
<v Speaker 3>think but I brush my teeth in the shower. That's

825
00:46:27.639 --> 00:46:30.239
<v Speaker 3>how I do it every morning, and so it kind

826
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:32.039
<v Speaker 3>of hops in the slat and then it just kind

827
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:34.159
<v Speaker 3>of sits here kind of like on the bathroom rack.

828
00:46:35.599 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 3>And I just sat noticing that my toothpaste started moving,

829
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:43.000
<v Speaker 3>and like I'm in the shower like going, what's going

830
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:46.000
<v Speaker 3>on and the toothpaste bom bom bom bom just started

831
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:47.800
<v Speaker 3>doing this, and I like I kind of grabbed it

832
00:46:47.800 --> 00:46:50.599
<v Speaker 3>and I stopped it and like, you know, just just stop,

833
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.559
<v Speaker 3>and it just kept going. And this continued for about

834
00:46:54.559 --> 00:46:56.960
<v Speaker 3>a month. Every time I had a shower.

835
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:01.159
<v Speaker 2>My toothpaste, I've always got to the point.

836
00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:03.360
<v Speaker 3>Where I wanted to wear a bikini or dogs into

837
00:47:03.400 --> 00:47:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the shower and I'm just like, well, you just like

838
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:06.039
<v Speaker 3>go away.

839
00:47:06.119 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 2>This is like really rude, you know, it's like but

840
00:47:10.119 --> 00:47:10.960
<v Speaker 2>then yeah.

841
00:47:10.840 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Then it eventually, you know, I don't know what happened.

842
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.599
<v Speaker 3>And and then I rang Lisa.

843
00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:17.000
<v Speaker 2>One day.

844
00:47:17.079 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 3>I was I was making myself a hot dog for lunch, right,

845
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 3>so I had my barn, put my cheese and my mustard,

846
00:47:23.519 --> 00:47:27.239
<v Speaker 3>my tomato sauce, and put my sausage on and so

847
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:30.440
<v Speaker 3>it was there already on the plate. And then I

848
00:47:30.480 --> 00:47:33.079
<v Speaker 3>went to make a drink and then I turned around

849
00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.639
<v Speaker 3>and the sausage was literally out of my hot dog

850
00:47:37.800 --> 00:47:40.039
<v Speaker 3>and I come off the plate where it hadn't.

851
00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Tipped over anything, and it was on the bench.

852
00:47:43.360 --> 00:47:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I'm just like, oh my god, like leave my food alone,

853
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 3>and Lisa going.

854
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, published trying to steal.

855
00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:00.400
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I mean, but I mean that's kind of

856
00:48:00.400 --> 00:48:01.800
<v Speaker 3>our attitude towards.

857
00:48:01.480 --> 00:48:04.639
<v Speaker 2>It was just what is going on? But I have no.

858
00:48:04.679 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Idea what kind of brought up that activity, but it's

859
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:08.480
<v Speaker 3>now gone.

860
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 2>It was around for about a good month and a bit,

861
00:48:11.719 --> 00:48:13.519
<v Speaker 2>but it's literally stopped.

862
00:48:13.559 --> 00:48:16.760
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I was literally just like just whatever you are,

863
00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:22.360
<v Speaker 3>just I know you're here, please leave, like I did

864
00:48:22.400 --> 00:48:25.760
<v Speaker 3>do like I do do my cards and I do

865
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:28.599
<v Speaker 3>do pendulum and stuff like that. And I was telling

866
00:48:28.639 --> 00:48:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Lisa about it, and it basically came up, you know

867
00:48:31.440 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 3>from what I kind of interpreted that. It was like

868
00:48:34.239 --> 00:48:36.880
<v Speaker 3>a kid and it was like playful energy. It wasn't

869
00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:40.079
<v Speaker 3>like nasty, but it was like playful and it's just like, hey,

870
00:48:40.119 --> 00:48:43.039
<v Speaker 3>I'm here and carry on.

871
00:48:43.320 --> 00:48:45.599
<v Speaker 2>That's right. Yeah, And didn't it come up with it

872
00:48:45.639 --> 00:48:49.599
<v Speaker 2>wanted to play with the kids because it wasn't the grandkids, right,

873
00:48:50.559 --> 00:48:53.119
<v Speaker 2>grandkids and stuff. And there was a few little kind of.

874
00:48:54.800 --> 00:48:58.280
<v Speaker 3>A few little incidences where the kids got really frightened

875
00:48:58.320 --> 00:49:01.880
<v Speaker 3>because something was in the room and you know, things

876
00:49:01.960 --> 00:49:04.599
<v Speaker 3>were moving and yeah, so they you know, so we

877
00:49:04.599 --> 00:49:07.800
<v Speaker 3>were kind of like, you know, it's I basically said themself,

878
00:49:07.880 --> 00:49:10.440
<v Speaker 3>you please need you need to leave because you're actually

879
00:49:10.480 --> 00:49:11.559
<v Speaker 3>scaring the kids.

880
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Can you please leave?

881
00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:15.199
<v Speaker 3>And it worked, you know, there was no like, oh

882
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:18.159
<v Speaker 3>you're bad I'm just like, you're freaking them out, you know.

883
00:49:18.199 --> 00:49:20.960
<v Speaker 2>So whether it was like just something passing.

884
00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 6>Through or.

885
00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know, but like, like the very first

886
00:49:26.559 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 3>I think within the first six months of us living

887
00:49:28.639 --> 00:49:34.119
<v Speaker 3>in this house was one of there's an operation that

888
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.960
<v Speaker 3>I saw, which is the most it was the I've

889
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:41.840
<v Speaker 3>never seen an operation like it. Like it was so clear,

890
00:49:41.920 --> 00:49:43.480
<v Speaker 3>it was so thing, and it was like of a

891
00:49:43.599 --> 00:49:46.719
<v Speaker 3>young well I think was an Aboriginal girl with like

892
00:49:46.760 --> 00:49:51.159
<v Speaker 3>a big cloak on little bobcat here beer feet and

893
00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:56.920
<v Speaker 3>she literally walked past my door and like I was like,

894
00:49:57.079 --> 00:49:59.800
<v Speaker 3>by the time my daughter came home about fifteen minutes later,

895
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:03.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm literally running around the house with a baseball back

896
00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 3>in the house because I knew in my kid what

897
00:50:07.039 --> 00:50:11.000
<v Speaker 3>I saw, but it was still like that that freaked

898
00:50:11.039 --> 00:50:14.719
<v Speaker 3>me out. So because I've never seen an operation so clear,

899
00:50:14.960 --> 00:50:16.119
<v Speaker 3>so so vivid.

900
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:20.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so crazy, really really interesting.

901
00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:22.840
<v Speaker 3>But there's you know, there's been like five years five

902
00:50:22.920 --> 00:50:26.280
<v Speaker 3>six years between that operation and you know what kind

903
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:28.239
<v Speaker 3>of thing it kind of happened here.

904
00:50:28.400 --> 00:50:31.599
<v Speaker 2>So the best part about this whole thing happening to

905
00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.519
<v Speaker 2>Juliet was the phone calls that I got in New

906
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Zealand funny. Oh my god, my toothpaste keeps moving. Why

907
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:41.559
<v Speaker 2>won't I stop moving?

908
00:50:43.800 --> 00:50:45.960
<v Speaker 3>It was just it was just the artist thing. I'm like,

909
00:50:46.039 --> 00:50:48.039
<v Speaker 3>why are you moving my toothpaste? And then why are

910
00:50:48.079 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 3>you watching me in the shower? You know?

911
00:50:53.639 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's something we'll talk about now, Dungeon

912
00:50:56.360 --> 00:50:59.519
<v Speaker 2>talk episodes and we'll go into that sort of dirty

913
00:50:59.559 --> 00:51:01.440
<v Speaker 2>purv girl and that sort of stuff, because we've got

914
00:51:01.440 --> 00:51:06.719
<v Speaker 2>a fair few stories of encounters with spirits and showers,

915
00:51:06.800 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 2>which is just not okay. Yeah, yeah, I suppose it's

916
00:51:10.039 --> 00:51:13.320
<v Speaker 2>that water thing, isn't it, you know, show conductivity. I

917
00:51:13.360 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 2>don't want to share my showers. Yeah, I draw the

918
00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 2>line at sharing my shower. Okay, sharing my food maybe,

919
00:51:21.559 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 2>but sharing my shower about that definite no.

920
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:25.239
<v Speaker 6>No.

921
00:51:26.559 --> 00:51:29.800
<v Speaker 3>So so that was my story. So Lisa, tell me

922
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:31.840
<v Speaker 3>your little poltergeist encounters.

923
00:51:32.599 --> 00:51:35.079
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, as you know, I've had a few, especially

924
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.440
<v Speaker 2>with you, and I do wonder that you're the catalyst. Okay,

925
00:51:38.519 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's me at all. Definitely that one.

926
00:51:43.199 --> 00:51:45.679
<v Speaker 2>I hope I'm pointing to the right side. You've got

927
00:51:45.679 --> 00:51:50.519
<v Speaker 2>to point down. I don't know who you're pointing to.

928
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:54.679
<v Speaker 2>Just George over there, guy. So I have a couple

929
00:51:54.679 --> 00:51:56.880
<v Speaker 2>of stories, only two stories that I wanted to share.

930
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:00.320
<v Speaker 2>Number one was in a house that we had just

931
00:52:00.360 --> 00:52:02.960
<v Speaker 2>moved into after the Nio house. So I do wonder

932
00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:06.679
<v Speaker 2>if maybe I took something with me from the Nio house.

933
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 2>I took them with me. So we moved into a

934
00:52:12.360 --> 00:52:15.960
<v Speaker 2>house in Avalon, which is a really old area in

935
00:52:16.039 --> 00:52:21.159
<v Speaker 2>Lower Hut. It's been settled for probably a good hundred years.

936
00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:24.079
<v Speaker 2>It's one of the first settlements through Lower Hut, so

937
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:26.920
<v Speaker 2>been there for quite a while. And we moved into

938
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a really old house. And so we knew that because

939
00:52:30.840 --> 00:52:36.079
<v Speaker 2>it had these pull out kind of diagonal container drawers

940
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:39.000
<v Speaker 2>wooden drawers that they used to put flour into and

941
00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:41.119
<v Speaker 2>onions and that sort of stuff. And next day they

942
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:44.880
<v Speaker 2>would keep the really old Yeah, yeah, really old. And

943
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:48.760
<v Speaker 2>it was an amazing pink color. That's how we know

944
00:52:48.840 --> 00:52:50.760
<v Speaker 2>it was really that.

945
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:53.440
<v Speaker 3>The pastial pink blues and greens in New Zealand, which

946
00:52:53.480 --> 00:52:56.119
<v Speaker 3>is also through all the psychiatric hospitals on my ad.

947
00:52:56.239 --> 00:52:59.239
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, and I wonder why people were crazy because

948
00:52:59.239 --> 00:53:02.400
<v Speaker 2>they have to live in that, right, I mean seriously. Anyway,

949
00:53:02.400 --> 00:53:06.599
<v Speaker 2>So that was our kitchen pastor pink, and so I remember,

950
00:53:06.639 --> 00:53:08.599
<v Speaker 2>and I was living there with my little boy at

951
00:53:08.639 --> 00:53:12.360
<v Speaker 2>the time, who was probably about three by that point,

952
00:53:12.840 --> 00:53:14.800
<v Speaker 2>I think, after we moved out of the Nio house,

953
00:53:15.719 --> 00:53:18.360
<v Speaker 2>and so we were living in this house and that

954
00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:22.320
<v Speaker 2>was fine, no problems, everything was all good. Until one

955
00:53:22.400 --> 00:53:24.400
<v Speaker 2>day I woke up and I felt sick, kind of

956
00:53:24.480 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 2>like how I'm sounding now, and I thought, right, I'm

957
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:29.639
<v Speaker 2>going to go and get my This isn't my normal voice,

958
00:53:29.679 --> 00:53:31.559
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I hope you know. I don't think

959
00:53:31.599 --> 00:53:34.199
<v Speaker 2>this is normal. So I thought, right, I'm going to

960
00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:36.760
<v Speaker 2>go get some oranges. I'll go down to the supermarket,

961
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.119
<v Speaker 2>get me some nice oranges. I'll make myself feel better,

962
00:53:40.159 --> 00:53:42.960
<v Speaker 2>and I'll fix whatever's trying to get me, right. So

963
00:53:43.000 --> 00:53:45.320
<v Speaker 2>I went down and I bought this beautiful bag of

964
00:53:45.400 --> 00:53:47.559
<v Speaker 2>like kind of six or eight oranges, and I popped

965
00:53:47.599 --> 00:53:50.400
<v Speaker 2>them on top of my table in the fruit bowl,

966
00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:53.840
<v Speaker 2>still in the bag, mind you, in the dining room.

967
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:58.119
<v Speaker 2>And my bedroom was down the hallway and then right

968
00:53:58.119 --> 00:53:59.719
<v Speaker 2>at the end of the house, so it was a

969
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:03.320
<v Speaker 2>fair amount of walk away from the dining room, and

970
00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:05.519
<v Speaker 2>so I popped those there, and I went around and

971
00:54:05.559 --> 00:54:08.039
<v Speaker 2>I did whatever else I was doing, and I came

972
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:11.360
<v Speaker 2>back probably about an hour or two later to find

973
00:54:11.360 --> 00:54:14.719
<v Speaker 2>my oranges and do some squeezing and make myself healthy.

974
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:17.119
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, where the hell have my oranges gone.

975
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.679
<v Speaker 2>I was the only person in my house. My baby

976
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:23.480
<v Speaker 2>was at preschool, at kindergarten, and I was like, the

977
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:26.159
<v Speaker 2>cat's not big enough and she's got no opposable thumbs.

978
00:54:26.199 --> 00:54:28.360
<v Speaker 2>She can't take it anyway. So I was a bit

979
00:54:28.960 --> 00:54:30.800
<v Speaker 2>miffed by it, and I was like, where are my oranges?

980
00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I know I put them right here, So I started

981
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.079
<v Speaker 2>looking for them. Right So I was like, oh, we

982
00:54:36.159 --> 00:54:38.440
<v Speaker 2>look through the lounge and then through the kitchen, because

983
00:54:38.440 --> 00:54:40.920
<v Speaker 2>that's the obvious place that you find your oranges is

984
00:54:40.960 --> 00:54:43.360
<v Speaker 2>probably I put them in the kitchen. Sure, And so

985
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I walked around, no oranges, no oranges. Walked into my

986
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:50.760
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and I was like, it's not in my bedroom,

987
00:54:51.000 --> 00:54:53.280
<v Speaker 2>and so I thought, I'll just have a quick look around.

988
00:54:53.760 --> 00:54:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Opened the wardrobe, not in there, opened a couple of

989
00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:59.639
<v Speaker 2>my drawers, thinking you're an idiot, why are you even

990
00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:02.760
<v Speaker 2>looking at the drawers? For looked under my bed and

991
00:55:02.880 --> 00:55:04.599
<v Speaker 2>I was like, are you joking?

992
00:55:05.440 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 8>And literally under my bed, in the middle of my

993
00:55:09.519 --> 00:55:13.639
<v Speaker 8>bed was my oranges in the bag that I had

994
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:15.400
<v Speaker 8>left them in on the dining room and I was

995
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:18.199
<v Speaker 8>just like, I'm just trying to get healthy.

996
00:55:18.320 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 2>You give me back my oranges. And so that's probably

997
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:28.519
<v Speaker 2>the biggest like poldergeist activity I've ever experienced.

998
00:55:28.880 --> 00:55:33.079
<v Speaker 3>That's that's quite a Yeah, it's a massive amount of

999
00:55:33.119 --> 00:55:36.159
<v Speaker 3>space that it moved, right, and that was really kind

1000
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:37.280
<v Speaker 3>of what it was.

1001
00:55:37.320 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 2>More annoying and trickster than anything. But I was just like,

1002
00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:42.920
<v Speaker 2>how the hell did you make this happen? And who

1003
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:47.360
<v Speaker 2>are you get out of my house? So, yeah, I

1004
00:55:47.360 --> 00:55:49.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know if it was something that was already in

1005
00:55:49.599 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 2>the house when we moved in or something that maybe

1006
00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:55.920
<v Speaker 2>we brought with us on our journeys, but that was

1007
00:55:56.000 --> 00:55:58.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty crazy. And nothing else happened. We didn't have any

1008
00:55:58.599 --> 00:56:02.679
<v Speaker 2>slamming doors or anything crazy town like that going on.

1009
00:56:02.719 --> 00:56:08.039
<v Speaker 2>But my oranges were put under my bed and that. Yeah,

1010
00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 2>And anytime it comes to like you all.

1011
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 3>Your little stalker's like, oh, I'm just gonna eat oranges

1012
00:56:13.159 --> 00:56:14.039
<v Speaker 3>under a bed and watching.

1013
00:56:16.559 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>That's the freaky thing, right when things happen in the

1014
00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 2>shower or when you're in your sleeping space, in your

1015
00:56:24.400 --> 00:56:28.480
<v Speaker 2>vulnerable areas, it freaks you out way more you know,

1016
00:56:29.239 --> 00:56:33.440
<v Speaker 2>yeah it does. Like the kitchen, kitchen doesn't matter so much,

1017
00:56:33.519 --> 00:56:36.320
<v Speaker 2>but in your bed or in the shower, it's just

1018
00:56:36.360 --> 00:56:44.519
<v Speaker 2>not okay, a little play with me. But my second

1019
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 2>story is from actually a different place. When I got

1020
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:49.199
<v Speaker 2>back from London, i'd moved over there with my son

1021
00:56:49.239 --> 00:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>and we'd come home to stay without with my partner

1022
00:56:52.920 --> 00:56:55.800
<v Speaker 2>and his family. And the house that we lived in

1023
00:56:55.960 --> 00:57:01.239
<v Speaker 2>was a makeshift what do you call it, like a

1024
00:57:01.239 --> 00:57:05.000
<v Speaker 2>a semi office building set up one of those not

1025
00:57:05.119 --> 00:57:12.719
<v Speaker 2>real buildings building like a building, but like it's like, yeah,

1026
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:17.119
<v Speaker 2>it's like a set up office kind of oh gosh,

1027
00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it's a special name for them that are kind of

1028
00:57:19.960 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 2>like pop up buildings. So it was very much run

1029
00:57:25.440 --> 00:57:28.119
<v Speaker 2>for an office set up, and so we kind of

1030
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.400
<v Speaker 2>emptied it all and used it as our house. And

1031
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:33.199
<v Speaker 2>there was a couple of real nasty things going on

1032
00:57:33.280 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 2>in that place, which I did not like at all,

1033
00:57:36.159 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 2>especially in the shower there. And my son also had

1034
00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:43.800
<v Speaker 2>a very horrible encounter with a ghost in the bathroom

1035
00:57:43.840 --> 00:57:46.320
<v Speaker 2>as well, and he refused to go back in there.

1036
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 2>And he's a big boy, like he's a big salmon boy.

1037
00:57:49.159 --> 00:57:51.320
<v Speaker 2>He's six foot and he was just like no, I'm

1038
00:57:51.320 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>not going back in there, but this is this happened

1039
00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:58.679
<v Speaker 2>when we first got back here. My partner had built

1040
00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:03.119
<v Speaker 2>us a bedroom in this off this building and this

1041
00:58:03.159 --> 00:58:05.239
<v Speaker 2>is amazing, and he's built the walls and da da

1042
00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:07.320
<v Speaker 2>da da dah, and laid out this brand new carpet

1043
00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:09.920
<v Speaker 2>and it was nice and squishy, but basically it was

1044
00:58:10.000 --> 00:58:12.360
<v Speaker 2>so thick and it had such a thick underlay that

1045
00:58:12.400 --> 00:58:15.400
<v Speaker 2>when you tried to close the door, you had to

1046
00:58:15.519 --> 00:58:19.480
<v Speaker 2>physically push the door really hard across the carpet because

1047
00:58:19.519 --> 00:58:22.360
<v Speaker 2>the carpet was so high, right, so it couldn't be

1048
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:25.880
<v Speaker 2>blown by the wind or buy anyone. Apart from being

1049
00:58:25.960 --> 00:58:29.920
<v Speaker 2>really physically pushed with your hand, you couldn't even kick

1050
00:58:29.960 --> 00:58:31.639
<v Speaker 2>it and let it swing, and you had to really

1051
00:58:31.719 --> 00:58:34.400
<v Speaker 2>kind of give it a good go. Anyway, So my

1052
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:36.320
<v Speaker 2>son and I were sitting in that room because we

1053
00:58:36.519 --> 00:58:40.360
<v Speaker 2>just got a new kitten and our pussy cats also

1054
00:58:40.440 --> 00:58:42.800
<v Speaker 2>had joined our family, and she was in a cardboard

1055
00:58:42.840 --> 00:58:45.239
<v Speaker 2>box in that room. We literally, I think, brought her

1056
00:58:45.239 --> 00:58:48.559
<v Speaker 2>home that day and the door was open, so into

1057
00:58:48.599 --> 00:58:52.480
<v Speaker 2>this bedroom, the door was open. We were sitting on

1058
00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:55.400
<v Speaker 2>the carpet next to the door, and the cat was

1059
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.440
<v Speaker 2>in the little box and all of a sudden behind

1060
00:58:58.599 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 2>my son and I was looking at the door in

1061
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 2>that direction, and my son was looking at me with

1062
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.480
<v Speaker 2>his back to the door, and all of a sudden,

1063
00:59:07.480 --> 00:59:13.719
<v Speaker 2>the door shut itself. And I said to Hunter, did

1064
00:59:13.719 --> 00:59:16.599
<v Speaker 2>you shut that door? Mate? And he goes, no, Mum.

1065
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:19.440
<v Speaker 2>And he was sitting cross legged looking at the cat

1066
00:59:19.480 --> 00:59:22.360
<v Speaker 2>in the box. And I was like, Oh, the door

1067
00:59:22.440 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>just shut and he goes, oh, that's weird because you

1068
00:59:25.440 --> 00:59:26.519
<v Speaker 2>have to push that door.

1069
00:59:28.800 --> 00:59:29.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1070
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:32.119
<v Speaker 2>And the more I think about it, the more I go, Wow,

1071
00:59:32.159 --> 00:59:34.800
<v Speaker 2>that was crazy because it also made a really crazy sound,

1072
00:59:34.880 --> 00:59:38.599
<v Speaker 2>like you know that pushing sound of wood over carpet.

1073
00:59:38.920 --> 00:59:43.480
<v Speaker 2>It didn't make any sound when it closed. That's the

1074
00:59:43.559 --> 00:59:44.559
<v Speaker 2>weird thing, isn't it.

1075
00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, like there's some activity that you've had where

1076
00:59:47.440 --> 00:59:50.880
<v Speaker 3>something happens and there is no sound and you're like,

1077
00:59:51.000 --> 00:59:55.400
<v Speaker 3>I just this happened, but there's literally no sound.

1078
00:59:55.920 --> 01:00:00.960
<v Speaker 2>And then other activity is like bang goes a cubo door,

1079
01:00:01.039 --> 01:00:01.679
<v Speaker 2>or bang.

1080
01:00:01.480 --> 01:00:04.760
<v Speaker 3>There goes something flying off the bench, or he goes a.

1081
01:00:04.800 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Knife block or yeah yeah, and it's so odd. It's

1082
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.159
<v Speaker 2>like there's something just not quite right with it, right,

1083
01:00:11.199 --> 01:00:15.679
<v Speaker 2>There's something missing about that occurrence or that kind of activity.

1084
01:00:15.760 --> 01:00:19.679
<v Speaker 3>It's so much there must be so much power behind

1085
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.880
<v Speaker 3>to kind of do it, and that kind of Yeah. Yeah, well,

1086
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:26.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean I know how much how much.

1087
01:00:25.920 --> 01:00:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Effort I had to put in to push that door

1088
01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:35.199
<v Speaker 2>shut so for it to simply shut itself, And yeah,

1089
01:00:35.239 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 2>that that freaked us out, like pretty good and proper.

1090
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:42.039
<v Speaker 2>And then we started getting some pretty, as you put it,

1091
01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:46.440
<v Speaker 2>sinister sort of vibes going on, especially with some things

1092
01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:49.159
<v Speaker 2>that were happening outside the house and then inside that

1093
01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:53.039
<v Speaker 2>bathroom kind of area, and we were like, yeah, noop,

1094
01:00:55.960 --> 01:00:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And I got very angry, you know, at the entity

1095
01:00:59.280 --> 01:01:03.079
<v Speaker 2>for you know, violating my kind of my privacy. You know,

1096
01:01:03.119 --> 01:01:07.559
<v Speaker 2>I got really really grumpy at it. So yeah, and

1097
01:01:07.719 --> 01:01:09.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, we did all I did a cleanse and

1098
01:01:09.239 --> 01:01:11.000
<v Speaker 2>that sort of stuff, and I kind of felt like

1099
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:15.360
<v Speaker 2>it probably wasn't the same thing. I think the thing

1100
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:17.960
<v Speaker 2>that was happening in the bathroom was situated in the

1101
01:01:18.000 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 2>bathroom and was stuck in there probably due to the

1102
01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 2>water as well that energy, and the thing that shut

1103
01:01:24.960 --> 01:01:27.599
<v Speaker 2>the door and was causing little issues in the house

1104
01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 2>was probably more of a trickster sort of poltergeist activity

1105
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:34.920
<v Speaker 2>sort of thing. But Yeah, it was really that. It

1106
01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.199
<v Speaker 2>was very off putting. I was like, what I did

1107
01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:38.039
<v Speaker 2>shut that door?

1108
01:01:38.440 --> 01:01:40.559
<v Speaker 3>Like I don't think so, but I mean, I mean

1109
01:01:40.639 --> 01:01:42.199
<v Speaker 3>this is that you know, it's like we're saying, there

1110
01:01:42.239 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 3>are a lot of incidents where there's been activity and

1111
01:01:46.519 --> 01:01:51.840
<v Speaker 3>stuff and not that things happening in bathrooms and people's bathrooms. Yeah,

1112
01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.199
<v Speaker 3>and if you've had any encounters like that, please let

1113
01:01:54.280 --> 01:01:57.000
<v Speaker 3>us know, you know, right down in the like right

1114
01:01:57.039 --> 01:01:59.320
<v Speaker 3>down underneath and message us and stuff, you know, because

1115
01:01:59.320 --> 01:02:03.159
<v Speaker 3>we would love to hear your stories as well, any

1116
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:07.719
<v Speaker 3>older guys activity that you've had, especially through you know.

1117
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Like our stories range through the Wellington region. So if

1118
01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you've got any stories, if you're a Kiwi and you've

1119
01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.480
<v Speaker 2>lived in Wellington, I know there's a few people that

1120
01:02:15.599 --> 01:02:19.119
<v Speaker 2>follow us that know the Nio house. So if you've

1121
01:02:19.119 --> 01:02:21.559
<v Speaker 2>got any stories around that area, man like send them

1122
01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.800
<v Speaker 2>to us or drop them in the comments below, because

1123
01:02:23.880 --> 01:02:26.840
<v Speaker 2>that's mental that house.

1124
01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:32.159
<v Speaker 3>But anyone else, yeah, like you know, Australia, you know anything.

1125
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:35.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, we love hearing these stories and kind of

1126
01:02:35.199 --> 01:02:37.039
<v Speaker 3>how you guys dealt with them as well. You know,

1127
01:02:37.639 --> 01:02:41.639
<v Speaker 3>we've kind of learned that well, you know, as we've

1128
01:02:41.679 --> 01:02:43.679
<v Speaker 3>gone on here because like a lot of activity used

1129
01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:46.320
<v Speaker 3>to really scare me, and like it was just like

1130
01:02:46.559 --> 01:02:47.480
<v Speaker 3>how do I deal with this?

1131
01:02:47.679 --> 01:02:50.800
<v Speaker 2>And I spoke to a really loved guy who was

1132
01:02:50.840 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 2>a bit.

1133
01:02:51.039 --> 01:02:54.599
<v Speaker 3>Of a psychic person and like I cannot put the

1134
01:02:54.639 --> 01:02:56.880
<v Speaker 3>life and me remember his name, but he was an

1135
01:02:56.920 --> 01:02:59.679
<v Speaker 3>alder gentleman and he'd had a lot of kind of

1136
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 3>experience and kind of this kind of stuff, and he

1137
01:03:03.280 --> 01:03:06.760
<v Speaker 3>was literally just like, stand up to them. You have

1138
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:08.960
<v Speaker 3>to stand up to them. You have to show that

1139
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 3>you're strong, because the more you kind of like you

1140
01:03:12.320 --> 01:03:14.960
<v Speaker 3>show fear, they're just like, hey, I'm in you know,

1141
01:03:15.360 --> 01:03:17.239
<v Speaker 3>psychologically weak, right.

1142
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, so you know.

1143
01:03:19.079 --> 01:03:21.119
<v Speaker 3>So so that's what I do now. You know, if

1144
01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.880
<v Speaker 3>we come across anything that basically you know, is on

1145
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:26.199
<v Speaker 3>that kind of paranormal realm and it's kind of being

1146
01:03:26.199 --> 01:03:28.920
<v Speaker 3>a little bit threatening, I insonally, I'm back at it.

1147
01:03:28.960 --> 01:03:31.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm at it straight away, and it's like back off.

1148
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.159
<v Speaker 3>You can't, you know, you're not missing with me, Just

1149
01:03:34.199 --> 01:03:37.480
<v Speaker 3>back off, and you know, try and teach the kids

1150
01:03:37.519 --> 01:03:40.920
<v Speaker 3>the same thing. It's just like you've got to stay strong,

1151
01:03:41.079 --> 01:03:43.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, you call on your angels or whatever, and

1152
01:03:43.840 --> 01:03:45.280
<v Speaker 3>you will, you know, you tell.

1153
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:45.880
<v Speaker 2>Them to back off.

1154
01:03:47.159 --> 01:03:51.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a big thing for people, you know who

1155
01:03:51.760 --> 01:03:54.960
<v Speaker 3>are having these experiences who are absolutely terrified and you know,

1156
01:03:55.119 --> 01:03:58.559
<v Speaker 3>fear enough. You know, they are terrifying, but you have

1157
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:01.199
<v Speaker 3>to stand up. You've got to kind of find that

1158
01:04:01.320 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 3>kind of in a strength.

1159
01:04:02.480 --> 01:04:04.159
<v Speaker 2>And go, you know what, get lost.

1160
01:04:04.960 --> 01:04:08.360
<v Speaker 3>You know, many times, ay, we just want to get out, just.

1161
01:04:08.400 --> 01:04:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, And I think you know, these

1162
01:04:12.280 --> 01:04:16.719
<v Speaker 2>spirits are bound to the laws of earth, the spiritual

1163
01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:19.679
<v Speaker 2>realm or this dimension of earth, and they have to

1164
01:04:19.760 --> 01:04:22.480
<v Speaker 2>do what the law states they have to do, right,

1165
01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:26.719
<v Speaker 2>and you have the right as a human to tell

1166
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:29.039
<v Speaker 2>them to go away and be in the name of

1167
01:04:29.119 --> 01:04:32.159
<v Speaker 2>Jesus Christ or the name of your angels or whatever

1168
01:04:32.280 --> 01:04:34.960
<v Speaker 2>for protection. You have the right to tell them to

1169
01:04:35.000 --> 01:04:37.800
<v Speaker 2>go away, and they have to abide by that. Yeah.

1170
01:04:37.880 --> 01:04:40.519
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And there's many different ways, you know, and this

1171
01:04:40.599 --> 01:04:42.079
<v Speaker 3>is kind of one of the areas that you know

1172
01:04:42.119 --> 01:04:43.960
<v Speaker 3>that we are going to look into it.

1173
01:04:43.960 --> 01:04:45.159
<v Speaker 2>It's like how.

1174
01:04:45.039 --> 01:04:50.039
<v Speaker 3>Different religions and how different spiritual people and non spiritual

1175
01:04:50.079 --> 01:04:53.800
<v Speaker 3>people when they're having these kind of experiences, you know,

1176
01:04:53.920 --> 01:04:56.960
<v Speaker 3>different ways to protect yourself. You know, it's not you

1177
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:00.280
<v Speaker 3>don't have to be a religious person to protect yourself.

1178
01:05:00.320 --> 01:05:04.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, there are ways out there that you can

1179
01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:07.719
<v Speaker 3>so yeah, it's yeah, there's lots of different things to

1180
01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:10.519
<v Speaker 3>kind of look into it, and that will be something

1181
01:05:10.559 --> 01:05:11.000
<v Speaker 3>that we go.

1182
01:05:11.000 --> 01:05:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Into as that protection side of things. So it will

1183
01:05:14.440 --> 01:05:17.559
<v Speaker 2>be very interesting, very very interesting.

1184
01:05:18.519 --> 01:05:22.159
<v Speaker 3>So we're talking to like religious leaders and people like

1185
01:05:22.679 --> 01:05:28.280
<v Speaker 3>pagan the witchcraft communities and just spiritual people and yeah,

1186
01:05:28.360 --> 01:05:30.519
<v Speaker 3>so it's so you can kind of take a little

1187
01:05:30.519 --> 01:05:33.239
<v Speaker 3>bit of everything. It's just like, you know, I'm gonna

1188
01:05:33.320 --> 01:05:35.000
<v Speaker 3>hit you with us, and I'm gonna hit you with that.

1189
01:05:37.599 --> 01:05:42.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got to really hit you with this. Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely,

1190
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:44.519
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's so important to have a really

1191
01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.480
<v Speaker 2>solid toolkit of things that you can use.

1192
01:05:51.000 --> 01:05:55.480
<v Speaker 1>A woman's society of walking in the shadows, the cultetition