Speaker 1: Weird things happened in.
Speaker 2: The weird weird weird.
Speaker 1: Yo. Hey, I just wanted to give a little kind
Speaker 1: of a little muted hello this time. Do you ever
Speaker 1: feel that?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think in music it's called staccato really, where
Speaker 3: it's like short and just like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I like that. That that that resonates with me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So how are we doing? Boys?
Speaker 3: I'm good. I'm very full of Japanese food right now.
Speaker 3: I'm stuffed.
Speaker 1: How about you call me over there? I'm good, you're good? Yeah, man,
Speaker 1: a few words, yeah, right off into the sunset me
Speaker 1: on the back. You know what, You're looking good in that?
Speaker 1: What's your name that hat there? It's Jackie and Jimmy Jimmy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: having a horse would be pretty cool. I'm reliving the
Speaker 1: glory days thinking about our younger years. What were you
Speaker 1: saying just now?
Speaker 3: I just love Alex's hat.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty fresh. It is pretty fresh omy society.
Speaker 1: What's up with that? Yeah? What is up with that?
Speaker 1: I don't know much about it. I just found this
Speaker 1: hat on my desk.
Speaker 3: I wish I could get it somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wish I could too. I wish I
Speaker 1: could just go to our website, and yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: Like if there was a website called bloodsosaid so dot
Speaker 3: com where you could get like some really sick merch,
Speaker 3: including the Omy Society, or.
Speaker 1: Maybe including all of our hats. Dude, I like a jacket. Me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a hoodie.
Speaker 3: But thank you?
Speaker 1: Are they not setting it? I mean, if we're being technical,
Speaker 1: if we're yeah, and I am yeah, No, I feel
Speaker 1: like a hoodie's a hoodie, like a square is a square,
Speaker 1: but it's also a jacket, Like it's also a rectangle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could call it a hooded jacket and I
Speaker 3: would be okay with it. So thanks.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I like the colors that we picked. I really do
Speaker 3: like that too. It's very collegiate.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So obviously we are going to open this door
Speaker 1: of conversation right now and address the fact that we
Speaker 1: have a completely new product line out. We are very
Speaker 1: happy about it. It is on bledsos said so dot com.
Speaker 1: We nick had the idea, or I don't know if
Speaker 1: it was you were a Casey or both of you.
Speaker 1: They came and y'all were like, how cool would be
Speaker 1: to have something like college style? And it was obviously
Speaker 1: a hit, and we were just like you know what
Speaker 1: only society. Yeah, it's a society.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 1: It is kind of like a thing. It's it's this
Speaker 1: bigger thing.
Speaker 3: So yeah. It was from the genius mind of Casey,
Speaker 3: our our incredible designer, our teaste.
Speaker 1: And she was like something like the Me Club or
Speaker 1: I don't know, and I was like the society. It
Speaker 1: just kind of it just kind of came together one
Speaker 1: by one and here we are.
Speaker 3: And we've been chilling since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, can you do
Speaker 1: me a favor? Can you cross Bob's legs over there? Oh? Yeah, absolutely, thanks, brother, Bob.
Speaker 1: Come on, it should be a little decent. You're showing
Speaker 1: too much. Do you want to cross his legs? No? No,
Speaker 1: not like that, like at the ankle, at the at
Speaker 1: the ankle with the Catholic school girls across.
Speaker 3: Nobody nobody does.
Speaker 1: That's not Yeah, he's chilling. He's crossing. Okay, he's got
Speaker 1: one leg yeah, like us exactly.
Speaker 3: That's how we do.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get him like me, like my feet
Speaker 1: over he Well, he's over here with us, man, he's
Speaker 1: with us. You gonna have to accept it.
Speaker 3: Bob is with us.
Speaker 1: That's right, he's one of us.
Speaker 3: He not with you.
Speaker 1: So moving on past the Omi Society thing, it's something
Speaker 1: that we've been working on for a while, so check
Speaker 1: it out. We have some other stuff too. If you
Speaker 1: might have noticed, I have a five panny sigil hat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: earlier pulled that brim down for the audience.
Speaker 3: Earlier. He was like, I gotta go put my panty on,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, you gotta go.
Speaker 1: Put your what and you got the snap back? Dude,
Speaker 1: that thing is fresh, and me and Alex had the
Speaker 1: five panties. I like panties. The hat, right, it's sick, dude, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's fashionable.
Speaker 3: I love a five panel too. My head's just too
Speaker 3: fucking big to wear a five panel. So I'm gonna
Speaker 3: let I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 1: That deala So. Anyway, look, we have a topic to
Speaker 1: cover here today, and I think now is as good
Speaker 1: a time as any. So it's been a while since
Speaker 1: we did the Genesis episode and what happened. Something's been
Speaker 1: going on where we couldn't well. Alex went on his honeymoon,
Speaker 1: yeah you know, so he was gone for a while
Speaker 1: and then something else. I think maybe I had guests
Speaker 1: come stay with us.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, there episodes should be out by now.
Speaker 1: You're Minroe friends. Yeah that are out. Oh yeah, Chris
Speaker 1: and Hannah. It's been a while, but anyway, so we're
Speaker 1: gonna finally get around to talking about Revelations today.
Speaker 3: Revelations is We've said it so many times on the show.
Speaker 3: It's like one of our favorite books in the Bible,
Speaker 3: Like it's it was always a go to when I
Speaker 3: would like sit in church in the pew and just
Speaker 3: sit there like listening to the freaking pastor just like
Speaker 3: go on and on about whatever. I'd be like, man,
Speaker 3: it's lame. I'm about to rea Revelations again. Yeah, for
Speaker 3: like the twentieth time.
Speaker 1: Every read is good every time because it's a mystery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's got the dopest stuff, and it's got
Speaker 3: dragons and shit and like giant like falling inman warriors, and.
Speaker 1: It's so sick locusts and things rising from the grave.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's really pretty crazy, That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I just remember being a kid being so obsessed with it,
Speaker 1: like trying to understand the mystery, right, And I remember
Speaker 1: about two thousands or something like that when the Internet
Speaker 1: was getting more popular. We had YouTube, we had Facebook,
Speaker 1: and it was kind of like becoming a household thing,
Speaker 1: you know. I remember just getting on there and starting
Speaker 1: to google interpretations of the Book of Revelation, watching YouTube
Speaker 1: videos on it. What does it mean? What does it mean?
Speaker 1: Like trying to figure it out, and this pastor has
Speaker 1: this opinion about this meaning this, and you know, they
Speaker 1: all had these different ideas.
Speaker 3: It's super abstract. It's like very very abstract. So I mean,
Speaker 3: everybody's got like a different interpretation of it. But I
Speaker 3: mean I never felt like I really really clicked with
Speaker 3: one of the like the explanations that I would hear,
Speaker 3: like at least not in church. It wasn't until I
Speaker 3: started going like on the Internet and listening to some
Speaker 3: deep dives on like you know, YouTube essay, like video
Speaker 3: essays and stuff where they can really like cite sources
Speaker 3: and pull from all sorts of different material and also
Speaker 3: through a more open lens than just like within the
Speaker 3: context of the words of the Book of the Bible.
Speaker 3: You know, it's like it's it's it's a bigger book
Speaker 3: than that. It is a way bigger book than the Bible.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, for sure, it's it's it's like you said,
Speaker 1: it's very abstract. It's it's very uh, it's very mysterious.
Speaker 1: Like literally, no two Christians, no different people like agree
Speaker 1: on the actual meaning of this text. So it's basically
Speaker 1: like this mystical revelatory vision that comes to John of
Speaker 1: Patmos and he a dream, right or I don't think
Speaker 1: it's it's more like an out of body he just
Speaker 1: kind of he just pops up to heaven and he's
Speaker 1: speaking to an angel of the Lord, and they're like,
Speaker 1: you know, behold, you know, pay attention. There's things that
Speaker 1: are going to come to pass, right. So I guess
Speaker 1: we could like maybe just do a general overview of
Speaker 1: some of the prophecies of the Book of Revelation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that helped me out a lot. Yeah, well yeah, because
Speaker 1: in true Catholic fashion, I've never read.
Speaker 3: It really is true Catholic fashion.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I might get a burned to the
Speaker 1: steak for that one, but na, bro, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: it's pretty pretty common from what I've seen. Not yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm just saying, what's.
Speaker 3: Up, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And also like even in church, it was like rarely
Speaker 3: talked about, well at least at least you, you know,
Speaker 3: you being Pentecostal, I'm not, I'm not sure, but.
Speaker 1: It was like never talked about.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, so Alex, uh, what about in like your church,
Speaker 3: Like was Revelation brought up a lot? Like do you
Speaker 3: remember it being talked about very much?
Speaker 1: No? But yeah, I was also very young, so I
Speaker 1: don't think the Book of Revelation is a hot topic
Speaker 1: for school mass. Yeah, where the oldest person there is thirteen.
Speaker 3: And also it just kind of felt like like pastors
Speaker 3: didn't really want to touch it. Yeah, it was like,
Speaker 3: what is the lesson that we can.
Speaker 1: Because nobody understood it? And in my opinion, it's it's
Speaker 1: I don't want to say esoteric, but it's like metaphorical.
Speaker 1: It's allegorical. I think that like the whole point of
Speaker 1: it is, you know, we grow up and we're like
Speaker 1: it's literal. There's gonna be dragons in the sky and
Speaker 1: there's gonna be these locust hordes rising from the freaking
Speaker 1: seas and beneath the ground, and they're gonna you know,
Speaker 1: slaughter billions of people. But I really think it's allegorical.
Speaker 1: And something really cool is that there are some early
Speaker 1: Christian writers, some of the most influential ones like Origin
Speaker 1: did works, and I think it was Augustine as well.
Speaker 1: Right about how it was an allegorical work, like basically metaphors,
Speaker 1: metaphors about like the triumph of good over evil. That
Speaker 1: there's like individual battles of the soul, like on the
Speaker 1: personal level against evil, but then in the collective how
Speaker 1: you know, it's like not supposed to be taken literally.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a battle. Bruh, it's about it's such. It's
Speaker 3: gotta be like the most epic book in the Bible.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it starts, isn't this in Revelation,
Speaker 3: the book where there's like the sea of glass in
Speaker 3: the sky where all the like orchestra of heaven is
Speaker 3: sitting and playing the score to the end of the world. Yes,
Speaker 3: with the secret chords and ship like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the souls rise from the grave, the ones
Speaker 1: who were followers of Christ, and then the ones who
Speaker 1: are alive, who are caught up in a twinkling of
Speaker 1: an eye, which, by the way, you know what's crazy.
Speaker 1: The whole scripture, or like the whole idea of the
Speaker 1: Rapture is not taken from Revelation. What. I didn't know that, right,
Speaker 1: it's actually from Thessalonians. Oh really, Yeah, when they talk
Speaker 1: about being caught up in the twinkling of an eye
Speaker 1: at the final.
Speaker 3: I always thought it was in revelations.
Speaker 1: Nobody knows, bro. Yeah, there's so many misinterpretations and over time.
Speaker 1: It's the telephone game. Yep, but exactly. Yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's what were we saying just.
Speaker 3: Before that about the like sea of glass and the
Speaker 3: dragons and the dragon.
Speaker 1: And it's metaphorical, yeah, metaphorical.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So there's like a series of prophecies that take place.
Speaker 1: There's like a ton of numerology packed into it. But yeah,
Speaker 1: so we have these seven trumpets, right, So you have
Speaker 1: the seven Seals of Revelation, and then you have the
Speaker 1: Woman in the Dragon, which is this great like celestial
Speaker 1: event that appears in the sky, which some people believe
Speaker 1: that has already happened. Okay, elaborate, like I think it
Speaker 1: was twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. I'll have
Speaker 1: to see if I can find that real quick. September.
Speaker 1: What am I looking for? The Great Sign? September twenty third,
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. This is believed to have happened the revelation
Speaker 1: twelve sign, which is the woman in the dragon. A
Speaker 1: great sign appeared in having a woman clothed with the sun,
Speaker 1: with the Moon under her feet, in a crown of
Speaker 1: twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried
Speaker 1: out in pain as she was about to give birth.
Speaker 1: Then another sign appeared in heaven, an enormous red dragon
Speaker 1: with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on
Speaker 1: its head. On its heads its tail swept a third
Speaker 1: of the stars out of the sky and flung them
Speaker 1: to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the
Speaker 1: woman who was about to give birth, so that it
Speaker 1: might devour her child. The moment he was born, she
Speaker 1: gave birth to a son, a male child who will
Speaker 1: rule all the nations with an iron scepter, and her
Speaker 1: child was snatched up to God into his throne. The
Speaker 1: woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for
Speaker 1: her by God, where she might be taken care of
Speaker 1: for twelve one hundred and sixty days. It's already so abstract,
Speaker 1: I know, right, so abstract. So I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: you're looking at this. You want to celestial event. I
Speaker 1: want to give a description of Yeah, so what's going
Speaker 1: on is you have the constellation Virgo, the Virgin, yeah,
Speaker 1: with the sun or off of the left shoulder, and
Speaker 1: then you have the constellation Leo direct above the constellation Virgo.
Speaker 1: And then this it's hard to read because which Leo's
Speaker 1: the ruler? Right, let's see.
Speaker 3: Do you have pictures?
Speaker 1: Yes, the saying.
Speaker 3: I want to see. Yeah, it's but it's also like
Speaker 3: if immediately when you hear that, you're like, this is
Speaker 3: a celestial event. This is constellations. She's got twelve stars
Speaker 3: around her head, the moon is below her feet, Like
Speaker 3: it sounds like an alignment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're kind of blurry pictures because it's on my phone,
Speaker 1: but these are from twenty seventeen. There was an alignment
Speaker 1: that occurred. It'd be better on a computer screen. But
Speaker 1: it's like constellation, and like I said, it's a little blurry,
Speaker 1: but it shows you how all the planets are aligned
Speaker 1: in a certain way, and then it shows you the
Speaker 1: scripture to talk about the different bodies and what they
Speaker 1: mean and everything. But dude, there's been a lot of
Speaker 1: things unfolding over the last few years that are like
Speaker 1: in the day's prophecy, like, for example, Jerusalem becoming a
Speaker 1: nation or I'm sorry, Jerusalem becoming the capital right right, yeah, Israel.
Speaker 1: That just happened like what three or four years ago?
Speaker 3: Yeah, very recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So there's there's a lot of things, like I know, Alex,
Speaker 1: maybe you could help me out with this one because
Speaker 1: I think we talked about it on full disclosure, but
Speaker 1: we did a thing when we were talking about like
Speaker 1: the Hope Blue Star and the what the Hope, like
Speaker 1: the the Hope Native Americans. Yeah, we did talk about
Speaker 1: that must have been full disclosure. Yeah, there was there
Speaker 1: was something recently. It was like a great comet, and
Speaker 1: then there was something else that happened, and it was
Speaker 1: like the red heifer, the white Buffalo calf. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that's been happening lately that are like
Speaker 1: a part of different eschatological systems. Yeah. So the Hope
Speaker 1: Blue Stars a prophecy that the Hope people believed will
Speaker 1: signal the end of the Fourth World and the beginning
Speaker 1: of the fifth world.
Speaker 3: Bo. Yeah, another like Cosmo, Yeah, like like an alignment
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 1: It was a comet that came I earlier this year.
Speaker 1: I just can't remember. Uh. Kachina Kachina yeah, I just care.
Speaker 3: That's a comment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, that's the hoping name for it, I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: hang out, let me, let me keep higging. But my
Speaker 1: point is there's all these different things that are happening
Speaker 1: that are pointing to, Okay, maybe something really is going on.
Speaker 1: Like remember, for example, three years ago, we had the monoliths.
Speaker 1: Oh you remember that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I completely forgot about that.
Speaker 1: Now do you know the December of that year. I
Speaker 1: want to say it was twenty twenty one, might have
Speaker 1: been twenty twenty. Whenever that monolith occurred. Someone could easily
Speaker 1: google that. When that monolith occurred that December, there was
Speaker 1: the Bethlehem Star for the first time in like hundreds
Speaker 1: of years. There's all these crazy things happening. We had
Speaker 1: that crazy eclipse this year. Like, there's so many celestial
Speaker 1: events happening. Dug in the Utah monolith. Yeah that was
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, weren't there. No, there's no way, dude, No, No,
Speaker 1: it was definitely post like COVID yeah, or during. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there may have been multiple during. It was definitely recent
Speaker 1: because yeah, uh well the article let's see this is saying.
Speaker 1: Originally published on December fourth, twenty twenty yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 1: that's the month of the the star Bethelhem occurred.
Speaker 3: What there was multiple monolists were there or not?
Speaker 1: It was one this year. What's there in London?
Speaker 3: I don't even know.
Speaker 1: I think I heard about that. Yeah, there was another one.
Speaker 1: The Georgia guidestones were destroyed too. I saw that that
Speaker 1: was around the same time as a monolist.
Speaker 3: That was a big deal.
Speaker 1: So anyway, my point is there's a lot of conversation
Speaker 1: right now about you know, the end of times. I
Speaker 1: have people messaging me about the rapture. I have people
Speaker 1: messaging me about shifting to five D and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So I thought it'd be fun to just talk generally
Speaker 1: about ascatology, about the end of the world, about the theme,
Speaker 1: and and give it like our takes on it, right,
Speaker 1: but just like a brief overview of the Book of Right.
Speaker 1: So it's John, like I said earlier, John of Patmos.
Speaker 1: He has a vision of Christ, and Christ is like
Speaker 1: write letters to the seven churches in Asia Minor. Each
Speaker 1: letter addresses, you know, whether the church was faithful, or
Speaker 1: if they have any areas they need work in or whatever.
Speaker 1: It provides warnings, encouragement, promises. He's taken up to heaven
Speaker 1: and he sees God on the throne. He's surrounded by
Speaker 1: angels elders, which I always wondered what that means.
Speaker 3: Elders.
Speaker 1: Yeah, every time they have a vision of heaven, there's
Speaker 1: like twenty four elders that sit around God on thrones.
Speaker 1: Granted it's symbolic, right, but sure as a kid, I
Speaker 1: was always like, what does that mean?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's references to like beings in the throne room
Speaker 3: of God, like the seraphim. Yeah, the seraphim is another thing.
Speaker 3: But I remember us a long long time ago, we
Speaker 3: were in your backyard talking to your dad about like
Speaker 3: elohem and how that word is technically plural. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: he was like telling us about like I remember very
Speaker 3: vividly your dad saying, like, you know how Jesus had
Speaker 3: his disciples, Well, God had his disciples too. God had
Speaker 3: a counsel of people in his throne, in his throne
Speaker 3: room that work his counsel, and they all together were
Speaker 3: the lo Heen. They all are the yello Heen.
Speaker 1: You know, Kashmere with the elders of a gentle race. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: It just now. That conversation always stuck out to me
Speaker 3: like whoa, Like, yea, God has disciples too, there's like
Speaker 3: disciples of elder celestial beings.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's crazy to think about, like, well, because
Speaker 1: you're always taught like it's God and that's it.
Speaker 3: It's God, and then below him are the angels and
Speaker 3: you don't got to worry about nothing.
Speaker 1: Else, right, Yeah, And again, like I do think a
Speaker 1: lot of this is symbolic. I don't know, you know
Speaker 1: what I've been thinking about lately, ever since we did
Speaker 1: the Journey to the West episode and we talked about
Speaker 1: how like in the Confucian view, the spirit world is
Speaker 1: like bureaucratic. Yeah, right, Yeah, I've been reading Journeys out
Speaker 1: of the Body, which is Robert Monroe's book, his first book,
Speaker 1: and he talks about how he goes to this place
Speaker 1: called Local three, which is like another dimension of consciousness
Speaker 1: where you go when you go out of body, and
Speaker 1: it's like crudely reminiscent of our world, where like they
Speaker 1: have these primitive machines and trains and apartments and things,
Speaker 1: but they're like even more primitive than our stuff, Like
Speaker 1: they have wooden wheels and they don't even have like electricity.
Speaker 1: But it's like this completely other plane of reality that
Speaker 1: he visits over and over and over, and he observes
Speaker 1: like life there, and he theorizes like, is this like
Speaker 1: some collective subconscious memory of a precursor civilization, you know,
Speaker 1: before we existed here. He doesn't know. He's like, is
Speaker 1: it another dimension? I don't know, But that just got
Speaker 1: me thinking, like, wow, I wonder like if when we
Speaker 1: leave the body, you do psychedelic trips, right, and you
Speaker 1: think it's all like abstract energy and all this stuff,
Speaker 1: and you see all this material, you know, with fractals,
Speaker 1: and I tend to think it's like that, But then
Speaker 1: it's also like, man, what if we do leave the
Speaker 1: body and we go to some other place and it's
Speaker 1: like like dragon Ball when you know King Yemma's got
Speaker 1: the file book and he's he's you know, like, what
Speaker 1: if it really is kind of like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, no, we have no way
Speaker 3: of knowing. But you know, you hear stories about like, yeah,
Speaker 3: you're your consciousness like the only experience you've ever known
Speaker 3: is of this like material world, and so it's like
Speaker 3: after death, like your consciousness projects this abstract version of
Speaker 3: what you experienced in real life and it's similar and
Speaker 3: dissimilar at the same time. Like I've read a lot
Speaker 3: of accounts of like like uh, you know, post death experiences,
Speaker 3: people who die and then come back, and it's all
Speaker 3: there's a lot of stuff like that, Like, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: like it seemed familiar but not familiar at the same time, right,
Speaker 3: a lot of.
Speaker 1: Stuff like yeah, thinking about the park a lot. Oh
Speaker 1: that was so cool. Yeah, And if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: didn't Amy talk about her house she built in the
Speaker 1: park in the swamp in the swamp and she didn't
Speaker 1: elaborate Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh oh right right on Amy's episode. But but did
Speaker 3: she refer to it as the park? She did? She did? Yeah,
Speaker 3: because I know, oh no, no, no, I was getting
Speaker 3: a mixed up. Yeah, Amy talked about the park, not Emily.
Speaker 1: So like that that whole thing just made so much
Speaker 1: sense for me in like how you can explain ghosts
Speaker 1: and how you can explain like everything else and why
Speaker 1: it does matter, you know what I mean? And like
Speaker 1: like there's this whole argument against atheism. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: what's it gonna hurt? Right, Like, what's it gonna hurt?
Speaker 1: Just believing in God? You know, you don't have to practice,
Speaker 1: you don't have to do this, but like, you know,
Speaker 1: if you're wrong, that sucks. If you're right, if you're wrong, like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm got confused. My it's like I
Speaker 1: know what you're saying. But yeah, it's like if you're wrong,
Speaker 1: you lose it, right, the fool's gamble. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: so interesting to think that, like it's a classic. No,
Speaker 1: it's actually what you believe, because like, depending on what
Speaker 1: you think of the afterlife when you die, that could
Speaker 1: exactly be where you go. Yeah, your consciousness could create that. Well,
Speaker 1: that night after you guys left too, me and Archie
Speaker 1: and Emily and Jenny stayed up like quite a while
Speaker 1: talking to and they were really like amped about recording
Speaker 1: and obviously we had a great time, you know, and
Speaker 1: we were just talking a little more deeply about some
Speaker 1: of these things, and he was just saying like, well
Speaker 1: he was elaborating on that and his opinion on life
Speaker 1: after death, and he was like, it's physics. It's like
Speaker 1: he was like, people think that it's about you know,
Speaker 1: what you believe and what your your religion is, or
Speaker 1: you know, even if it's about being good. But he
Speaker 1: was like, but if you take a rock and you
Speaker 1: drop it in the water, it's so dense it just
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna float. It's gonna sink because it's too dense.
Speaker 1: So it's about making sure that you are le dense
Speaker 1: spiritually at the time of death. So in other words,
Speaker 1: to to like elaborate that on that even more, it's
Speaker 1: about being as high vibration as possible at the point
Speaker 1: of death. But guess what, you don't know when the
Speaker 1: point of death is so you really got to be
Speaker 1: that way all the time. How do you how are
Speaker 1: you vibrational? How do you reach that state? How do
Speaker 1: you get less dense? Well, it's through becoming lighter, right,
Speaker 1: through becoming enlightened, through you know, being good, through eating
Speaker 1: better foods, through better habits, through you know. And people
Speaker 1: would say, well, what does food have to do with it? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. We have a thousand what
Speaker 1: you eat, Yeah, you are what you eat, and we
Speaker 1: have glyphosate, monsanto and all this poisonous stuff in our
Speaker 1: food all the time that like, yeah, we're not even
Speaker 1: aware of it, but it harms us. Right, So it's
Speaker 1: like we at least should try to you know, if
Speaker 1: you go back to what you're talking about or what
Speaker 1: you'r I think your dad has said about the body
Speaker 1: being an antenna. Yeah, multiple people have said that, right, right,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're literally thinking of your geez, it
Speaker 1: must be a leap ye, I know it's lately every
Speaker 1: time we get together, right feeling it if your if
Speaker 1: your body is a piece of equipment or a temple
Speaker 1: or whatever, why would you not keep it clean or
Speaker 1: take care of it or like have it working optimally
Speaker 1: right or at least, you know, at least make steps
Speaker 1: right right right, But there's a goal it positively inclined steps.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody's perfect, right, but we should we should
Speaker 1: all just you know, try. But yeah, so it's it's
Speaker 1: that's why it's important to be good. It's because it's physics.
Speaker 1: It's because in the human experience, your your your vibration
Speaker 1: is a reflection of your your thoughts, your feelings, your actions,
Speaker 1: your emotions. We were talking about this on Full Disclosure
Speaker 1: last week. Nick missed this conversation and the majority of
Speaker 1: people haven't heard it either. But but we were talking
Speaker 1: about what were we talking about? We were it's on
Speaker 1: the tip of my tongue it's like we were you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, right, No, I'm trying to remember.
Speaker 1: Everyone in the discord loved it. Yeah, No, it was.
Speaker 1: I mean we talked about like the beauty in the
Speaker 1: world and the lack thereof, and it was basically just
Speaker 1: locking in. I mean that's kind of like it was
Speaker 1: about like getting focused on like trying to be high vibrational.
Speaker 1: Oh right, yeah, yeah, I had a hard heart with
Speaker 1: the camera, Nick, you did. Yeah. I told people that
Speaker 1: they're children of God and they should love themselves.
Speaker 3: Well, that's that's very important.
Speaker 1: That's true, and that's a sweet thing that you gave
Speaker 1: to those people. I'll tell everybody listening now, you're a
Speaker 1: child of God, and step one is to love yourself,
Speaker 1: because you can't. If that's not there, then you can't
Speaker 1: love others properly. You can't be this light that you
Speaker 1: that you are right like it's in there, you know.
Speaker 1: And it was basically that. So yeah, for like an hour, man,
Speaker 1: it was just yeah, Ryan got me keyed up, that's
Speaker 1: what happened. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's how we
Speaker 1: do it. He's got a gift. Anyway, moving on from that,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about it related to something we
Speaker 1: were just saying. But then I was just like, I
Speaker 1: can't remember the specifics of what we talked about, but
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just have to go listen to the
Speaker 1: recent episode of Full Disclosure, which can be found where
Speaker 1: uh patreon dot com, slash bledsos said, so sign up, subscribe,
Speaker 1: get discord, get Full Disclosure, and maybe some other things.
Speaker 1: It's November, so there might be something out there. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so check out there, check out the tears of what's
Speaker 1: there at patreon dot com, slash bloods has said, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: there might be something else there pretty soon, and if
Speaker 1: not on this episode, maybe we'll talk about it on
Speaker 1: the next one. All right, So, anyway, back to Revelation.
Speaker 1: He's taken up to Heaven. He's he's got on the throne,
Speaker 1: surrounded by angels, elders, and living creatures worshiping him. A
Speaker 1: scroll sealed with seven seals. I mentioned this briefly earlier.
Speaker 1: It's presented and only the Lamb is worthy to open them.
Speaker 1: Right as the lamb opens the seals, judgments are released
Speaker 1: on Earth, including war, famine, death, and cosmic disturbances like
Speaker 1: the Great Dragon in the Sky and the woman right
Speaker 1: The sixth seal brings a great earthquake and other terrifying
Speaker 1: sons like the sun I said sons I meant to
Speaker 1: say signs, and the sun is blackened and the moon
Speaker 1: becomes blood red. And it's like this major sign. When
Speaker 1: the sixth seal is loose, there will be an earthquake
Speaker 1: and then the sun will turn black like sackcloth. Right,
Speaker 1: the blood moon rises once again?
Speaker 3: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, a little Zelda.
Speaker 3: Reference dropping a nerdy reference for once. I love it,
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 1: Man. After the seventh seal, there is silence in heaven,
Speaker 1: followed by the angels giving the seven trumpets. The blowing
Speaker 1: of each trumpet brings further judgments such as hail fire,
Speaker 1: the poisoning of waters, darkness, and a plague of locusts. See,
Speaker 1: we told you this was epic.
Speaker 3: It's so epic.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The seventh trumpet announces the establishment of God's Kingdom
Speaker 1: on Earth. John sees a vision of a woman symbolizing
Speaker 1: Israel or the Church, who gives birth to a child Christ.
Speaker 1: We just talked about that though, where we think maybe
Speaker 1: it's more like a star alignment, maybe both. Maybe it's metaphorical, right,
Speaker 1: a dragon or otherwise known as Satan, tries to devour
Speaker 1: the child, but fell fails. The dragon is cast out
Speaker 1: of heaven and wages war against the Saints. Two beasts
Speaker 1: rise from the sea, one of them symbolizing political power
Speaker 1: or empire, also commonly called the Antichrist, and one from
Speaker 1: the earth, symbolizing false religion or a false prophet. These
Speaker 1: forces work together to deceive and dominate the whole world.
Speaker 1: And then they've got the seven bowls of Wrath. These
Speaker 1: seven angels pour out these seven bowls of wrath, and
Speaker 1: they're full of like incense or some mysterious liquid that
Speaker 1: they just pour into the bowls.
Speaker 3: The numerology pops off right in Revelation seven seven seven seven.
Speaker 3: It's all over the place.
Speaker 1: Where when does wormwood show up? That's with I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if it's the trumpets or the seals, but it's like.
Speaker 3: That's one of my favorite parts, you know about wormwood?
Speaker 3: Alex Bright as giant google it. Yeah, this giant angel
Speaker 3: falls to the earth and has like poisons one foot
Speaker 3: on the earth, one foot in the water, and he
Speaker 3: poisons all the water and he like proclaims like God
Speaker 3: time does not exist or something like that, like and
Speaker 3: and and it's kind of like the the initiation of
Speaker 3: the final battle of the end of the world, right,
Speaker 3: and like like so epic, like.
Speaker 1: A third of the population the entire planet dies because
Speaker 1: of the water being poisoned. Yeah. Uh, star falls from
Speaker 1: heaven turns a third of the world's water bitter, killing
Speaker 1: many people. Yeah. And honestly, as far as like if
Speaker 1: you think about it like poetry or like an epic, right,
Speaker 1: Revelation goes hard, dude, it goes so hard. It is
Speaker 1: very poetic. It is so poetic and lo an Angel
Speaker 1: of Death, Like the way that it's written is just
Speaker 1: like it's so powerful. It's hard.
Speaker 3: It's so hard. It's like mythology. It's like like is
Speaker 3: one of the only times it's like Revelation and Genesis.
Speaker 3: The other episode we did are like the two books
Speaker 3: in the Bible where it feels like you're reading mythology.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the other ones are kind of like stories.
Speaker 1: And you know, there are some differences there, like sosngs
Speaker 1: a bunch of songs. There's other exceptions like that for sure,
Speaker 1: but yeah, for the most part, Revelation and Genesis they
Speaker 1: really do stand out because singing is praying twice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what does that mean.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's just what they told us in Catholic Schoolday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like prayer's worth one, the song is worth two. That's
Speaker 1: why y'all be doing all them hymns. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I was in an Anglican church for
Speaker 3: quite a few years, which is like Catholicism light, and
Speaker 3: so we had hymns.
Speaker 1: We did the nice in Creed.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I could recite the whole thing right now.
Speaker 1: I won't, but if you started it, I could finish,
Speaker 1: but I couldn't start it. Lord's Prayer we did all
Speaker 1: that stuff too. I like the Lord's Prayer. Yeah, every
Speaker 1: now and then I'll say it like in my head. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just recite it. I like to have it memorized. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm almost done with the generic prophecies of revelation, right.
Speaker 1: So we have the seven bowls with these, so there's
Speaker 1: like a vision shown of the victory of God's kingdom
Speaker 1: and then seven angels pour out seven bowls of God's wrath,
Speaker 1: bringing plagues, scorching heat. There's like this event where this
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the sun or something. There's
Speaker 1: just like this heat that blasts the earth and kills
Speaker 1: almost everybody. So it's so cataclysmic, well it is, but
Speaker 1: all the good people are caught up, remember, and there's
Speaker 1: they're standing on like this sea of glass like you
Speaker 1: talked about earlier.
Speaker 3: What's the I know, I'm this is a tangent, but like,
Speaker 3: what's the deal with the one hundred and forty four thousand?
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, Like I've heard a million different
Speaker 3: descriptions for those of you who don't know, there's like
Speaker 3: this passage it's in revelations, yep, and the rapture. It's
Speaker 3: just you know, like all the good people are raptured
Speaker 3: up to heaven whatever. But they give you a number,
Speaker 3: they give a number of the like number of people
Speaker 3: that will be raptured. Yeah, and it's like one hundred
Speaker 3: and forty four thousand, or.
Speaker 1: It's like the elect the ones who will be saved.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they never really say like the whole idea
Speaker 1: of the rapture just kind of came together over time,
Speaker 1: Like it doesn't straight up say in revelation like the
Speaker 1: chosen ones will be you know, saved, and the whole
Speaker 1: idea of like people leaving from the living in the
Speaker 1: in the twinkling of an eye, like you might hear
Speaker 1: my pastor was saying, we'll be caught up in the
Speaker 1: twinkling of an eye and that final day that comes
Speaker 1: from Thessalonians, you know, and then there's some text about
Speaker 1: it in Revelation where it talks about, you know, the
Speaker 1: ones standing on to sea a glass to escape.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's already happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's like it comes from different texts and
Speaker 1: they just kind of threw this whole idea together about
Speaker 1: the rapture and it's like its own doctrine, and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: where did that doctrine even come from? Yeah, it's actually
Speaker 1: a few different texts that it's all different things. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, there's there's a lot of interpretation.
Speaker 1: There's so much in fact that Jehovah's witnesses believe literally
Speaker 1: only one hundred and forty four thousand people I'll ever
Speaker 1: go to heaven mm hmm, and everyone else would just
Speaker 1: be in their grave for the rest of the time.
Speaker 3: I've even met like traditional Christians that believe that that's insane,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, that is a fraction, that's a tiny,
Speaker 3: little infinitesimal fraction of the number of Christians in the world.
Speaker 1: So you know what's gonna happen when they die. What
Speaker 1: They're gonna lay there thinking they're in their grave forever right,
Speaker 1: or they'll believe wholeheartedly they're one of the one hundred
Speaker 1: and forty four thousands, and they'll be like, I'm in heaven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll be partying with you know, the few other people
Speaker 1: that believe it too or something. I don't know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but yeah.
Speaker 3: I used to have nightmares about the rapture. Yeah, like
Speaker 3: straight up I did. I would have nightmares that like
Speaker 3: my whole family we were all like floating up to
Speaker 3: the sky and like I like looked over it because
Speaker 3: my grandparents live next door. I would like see them
Speaker 3: floating up and then I would just start floating back down.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, it is so scary, Like the concept
Speaker 3: of the rapture is actually terrifying.
Speaker 1: How crazy though, that the child would be spared and
Speaker 1: then like I mean not spared, condemned.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 1: I was like ten years old. That's like the opposite thing.
Speaker 1: I know, like no shade to your grandparents. And I
Speaker 1: feel like if God had to pick, it'd be like
Speaker 1: let's take the child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like they were fine with me just descending back.
Speaker 3: They were like, bye, should have.
Speaker 1: Went to church. Yeah, fun watch Pokemon. Yes, yes, if
Speaker 1: it happens and it genuinely plays some people like that,
Speaker 1: that would just be rude. I know, like it's like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, psych, I got you, and just.
Speaker 3: Drop my ass back. I'm like, what the.
Speaker 1: Fuck God just playing? Yeah, I'm joking. I'm joking.
Speaker 3: I'm joking.
Speaker 1: That'd be crazy. All right. So we're down to the
Speaker 1: finale here, right, the Fall of Babylon, which that is
Speaker 1: some very interesting because they talk about the Great Horror
Speaker 1: Babylon right, like, but it's spelled like b A b
Speaker 1: A l O N And there's a lot of really
Speaker 1: fascinating tangents there with like Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons. They
Speaker 1: believed that they were trying to incarnate this being or no,
Speaker 1: they didn't believe they were trying. They were trying. They
Speaker 1: believed they did it. Yeah, right. They believed that they
Speaker 1: conjured the Horror of Babylon into the world. And I
Speaker 1: think they believed her name was Marjorie Cameron or something
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know. That's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 1: So Babylon symbolizes the corrupt world system opposed to God,
Speaker 1: which historically that kind of was always true. Depicted as
Speaker 1: a Harlot writing a beast, her downfall is described in
Speaker 1: vivid term as king's merchants and others mourning her destruction. Right, Like,
Speaker 1: all the people who were in these positions of power
Speaker 1: are like in whoa, oh, no, Babylon, the great Mysterious
Speaker 1: Harlot or whatever they call her, I think they called
Speaker 1: there's a phrase that it says in the Bible that's
Speaker 1: written it's like, I think the Great Mystery of Babylon
Speaker 1: or some really epic title like that, and they're all like,
Speaker 1: oh no, oh, she's fallen, And it's like symbolic of,
Speaker 1: you know, the corruption being destroyed.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: Heaven rejoices over Babylon's fault. Then the Second Coming of Christ,
Speaker 1: the main character Jesus returns as a conquering king, riding
Speaker 1: a white horse and leading the armies of Heaven. He
Speaker 1: defeats the Beast, the Antichrist, right the false prophet who
Speaker 1: are thrown into the Lake of Fire. Satan is bound
Speaker 1: for a thousand years. There is literally like a thousand
Speaker 1: years of peace, right, yes, So most people don't know this.
Speaker 1: They think the whole revelation thing is like, when most
Speaker 1: people think of the end of the world, they think
Speaker 1: of Hollywood programming, like it's literally the end of the
Speaker 1: world and we're going to crash and burn. But the
Speaker 1: Biblical perspective is like, actually, it's going to be a
Speaker 1: final war. Yeah, right, there's going to be this like
Speaker 1: judgment thrown out to all the evil of the earth.
Speaker 1: There's this great war and then actually we live in
Speaker 1: peace for a thousand years, a thousand years of peace.
Speaker 1: Then there's another final war. Oh, then it's peace forever
Speaker 1: and ever and ever, no more death aware. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: we're definitely not in the thousand years of.
Speaker 3: No for sure or not. No, I think we're approaching.
Speaker 3: I don't know who what the fuck do I know?
Speaker 3: I'm just some dude, But like.
Speaker 1: Well, what do you think you'd like to know? I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I think I mean, I think we're certainly closer to
Speaker 3: a cataclysmic war than we are to a thousand years
Speaker 3: of peace.
Speaker 1: But then what's the difference?
Speaker 3: What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Well, after I've finished going over revelation, which I'm like
Speaker 1: literally the last two or three bullet points here, I
Speaker 1: wanted to segue into a reminder to the listener. I'll
Speaker 1: just go ahead and say it now that the lady
Speaker 1: told my dad that those in power are using this
Speaker 1: text as a script, right right, So some of these
Speaker 1: events are unfolding. Do I think the angels are gonna
Speaker 1: calm in poor fucking fire on the earth?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think. I think that is symbolic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's symbolic.
Speaker 1: But obviously the world is crazy, you know, yeah it.
Speaker 3: I think about that a lot, Like is it just
Speaker 3: that I'm getting a and noticing it more or is
Speaker 3: it actually getting crazier? But it seems it seems like
Speaker 3: it's absolutely getting crazier.
Speaker 1: I think it's both.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so what's the difference. If we are close
Speaker 1: to like a cataclysmic war scenario, then yeah, if they're
Speaker 1: using this as a script, and you know, the lady
Speaker 1: said to my dad, as it has written, so Sharlotte
Speaker 1: beat like the main events of the story are going
Speaker 1: to play out. So if that's true, then yeah, we
Speaker 1: would be close to an age of piece. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: kind of what she promised.
Speaker 3: It's like the badness and the chaos swells up and
Speaker 3: then levels out.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Peace, I would love to see that in my lifetime.
Speaker 3: I remain hopeful. I certainly this world certainly needs it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah I would. I would love a thousand
Speaker 3: years of peace for this world.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't know the future, right,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I do have a good feeling. I think
Speaker 1: that I think that great change is coming. I think
Speaker 1: it's already coming. I think it's hard to deny. After
Speaker 1: being on the beach with two hundred people the other
Speaker 1: weekend and seeing what we saw, I think that that's
Speaker 1: confirmation for everybody there. Look, dude, think about it like this,
Speaker 1: this stuff could have happened to us. What is It's
Speaker 1: October right now. Next week basically is November, right, So
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna estimate, you know, two months from now
Speaker 1: is the new year. Yeah, two months in a week.
Speaker 1: That's eighteen years eighteen years ago. This stuff could have
Speaker 1: started happening to us and we could have never saw
Speaker 1: it again.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: No, absolutely. But on the contrary, every single moment in
Speaker 1: history that there was a need for this thing to appear,
Speaker 1: it did, And every single moment in the history of
Speaker 1: all of this that there would be an opportunity for
Speaker 1: it to grow and it actually benefit us and getting
Speaker 1: our story out. It has. So it's like, I think
Speaker 1: two hundred people experiencing what we experienced together, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty plus orbs plus everything we talked about on
Speaker 1: the Riverfest episode. I don't want to give it away
Speaker 1: if you haven't seen it yet, if you're coming in,
Speaker 1: you know, in random timing, it's just hard to deny
Speaker 1: that something isn't being orchestrated on a bigger level here.
Speaker 1: So things like that tend to embolden me to believe, Okay,
Speaker 1: we are heading towards something right, it's not just things
Speaker 1: accidentally falling into place. But as I look back, I'm like, dang,
Speaker 1: the whole time, something has been unfolding, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean.
Speaker 3: So, yeah, I have I have real faith and hope
Speaker 3: in my heart that if where humanity fails, the greater
Speaker 3: power will swoop in, and like when when all else fails,
Speaker 3: the greater power will swoop in and be like hey, hey, hey,
Speaker 3: hey hey, let's let's calm down and and kind of
Speaker 3: give us a reminder of like love, positivity and kind
Speaker 3: of course correct us a little bit. Yeah, because when
Speaker 3: we're in a world where the humans at the very
Speaker 3: very top in power are just they just don't give
Speaker 3: a shit about anyone in this world except themselves and
Speaker 3: their own selfish desires. They hate us absolutely and it
Speaker 3: feels so hopeless. It's like these people rule everything. What
Speaker 3: can we even do? What can anyone do? We are
Speaker 3: completely and totally powerless. That's when the greater power comes
Speaker 3: in and it's like this is wrong and it's time
Speaker 3: to course correct.
Speaker 1: But it's really like we're not powerless, right. It's like
Speaker 1: when you watch the Matrix that was a small group
Speaker 1: of people fighting the resistance and day one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think our form of resistance is
Speaker 3: having faith and hope, right, and that manifests those powers
Speaker 3: of good.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's like, well, it's just a movie, so
Speaker 1: what Like sometimes there's messages and movies. My point is like,
Speaker 1: even if there's you know, a billion, six billion, seven
Speaker 1: billion whatever people in the world who are bad, you
Speaker 1: be good and you're making a difference. You focus on
Speaker 1: you know, the one, the one where you can control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what you can control, what's what's in your locus of reality?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Like I think you know when when you do your
Speaker 1: best to shine a light, I think it has a
Speaker 1: ripple in the collective. Yeah, and I was gonna kind
Speaker 1: of say that to Nick's point, right, I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't think something's just going to come in and save
Speaker 1: everybody if we don't play our part. Absolutely, like, you
Speaker 1: can't save somebody that doesn't want to be saved.
Speaker 3: Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So if there if it hits, if it hits critical
Speaker 1: mass to where no one cares, right, we all lose.
Speaker 1: That's how the lady explained. It's a rap if we lose,
Speaker 1: because you lose heart.
Speaker 3: If we lose heart, it's a rap. You've lost you have, dude.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like Elf, like Sleigh the Slave,
Speaker 1: the slave clause. No one believed, right, no one believed
Speaker 1: in the sleigh couldn't fly. The reindeer can't do it
Speaker 1: by themselves. Y's slay too big, you know, so you
Speaker 1: gotta believe. And what's what's his name? He wanted to skateboard,
Speaker 1: Chrissy something she wanted a Barbie doll. I can't remember. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: but I agree. Yeah, sometimes you got to take the
Speaker 1: big book and you got to get on camera and
Speaker 1: you got to just read it to people, you know,
Speaker 1: so they believe.
Speaker 3: I think the whole like the whole allegory of like
Speaker 3: Santa Claus is believing in good you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: like believing. It's all about believing.
Speaker 1: Yeah you know, well he's really crashing in the movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, everybody, Yeah, that is true. We did see
Speaker 3: it on camera, but absolutely I fully agree with that.
Speaker 3: Like it's not like it's just like, well, you all
Speaker 3: suck and no one cares, but we'll fix it anyway.
Speaker 3: It's like no, no, no, no, they look into that
Speaker 3: that higher power looks into our hearts, the hearts of
Speaker 3: the people in this realm, and it's like they actually
Speaker 3: care and they want this world to be better. But
Speaker 3: the people are like the bad people are overpowering them.
Speaker 3: And because they want it to be better, they deserve
Speaker 3: it to be better, and so we're gonna do what
Speaker 3: we can to make it better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I can't help. But think of Noah
Speaker 1: in the Ark, you know, like there was plenty of
Speaker 1: people not on that arc, right, oh yeah, most people.
Speaker 1: You can't swim for forty days? I tried, right, did
Speaker 1: you for forty days?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: I tried. I lasted a couple hours. Oh really, when
Speaker 1: I were young and I got tired and I got out, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: You had the thought I'm gonna try to swim for
Speaker 3: forty days.
Speaker 1: No, I did have the thought of how long can
Speaker 1: I sit here and tread water? Yeah, I've tried that
Speaker 1: when I was younger. But no, I totally agree. It's
Speaker 1: like that's how the lady explained it to my dad.
Speaker 1: But people need to understand that the fraction that he
Speaker 1: wrote about in the book is literally like a fraction
Speaker 1: of the entire thing. And I think it's time has
Speaker 1: gone on. He's felt more comfortable sharing more and more
Speaker 1: of it because it's like it's this thing where he's
Speaker 1: he's always been like, how do I share this? How
Speaker 1: do I share this? I go out and I say
Speaker 1: things and then he's like I wasn't ready to say that,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh shit, sorry. But I think he's
Speaker 1: he's getting a lot more to where he's like I
Speaker 1: don't care anyway. Yeah, she basically showed him like the
Speaker 1: only way that it's going to change here is like
Speaker 1: if we change, like if we shift and start being
Speaker 1: loving and start being good, that then you know there
Speaker 1: would be intervention essentially that if we don't change that,
Speaker 1: you know, it could be the end of us. But
Speaker 1: she said, but it won't be, because it was written
Speaker 1: thousands of years ago that the light would win. And
Speaker 1: as it was written, so shall it be. That's not
Speaker 1: in the book, but that's what she said to him,
Speaker 1: as it is written, So shall it be? There will
Speaker 1: be peace. There's going to be a complete change, and
Speaker 1: you know, it's going to be the Age of Aquarius.
Speaker 1: That's why we started talking about it, and you know,
Speaker 1: talking about it for twelve years and getting that stuff
Speaker 1: out there. I didn't even know about the Age of Aquarius.
Speaker 1: I thought it was a song. I didn't know what
Speaker 1: that shit meant. Yeah, I didn't know that there were
Speaker 1: texts for hundreds of years talking about this, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I have one hundred percent faith
Speaker 1: that we're on the good timeline. And I could sit
Speaker 1: here and give a thousand reasons why I think, so
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. We don't have that much time. But
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's important for people to hear that. Absolutely. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the end, just so I can close the revelation thing.
Speaker 1: And then I wanted to talk about a little bit
Speaker 1: of comparative eschatology too, because that's fun stuff. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to give me a definition eschatology. It's like the
Speaker 1: study of the end of the world from a religion perspective. Cool,
Speaker 1: the Eschaton, the great event, the end.
Speaker 3: I like that word.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we already talked about Christ reigning for a thousand
Speaker 1: years after the millennium. Satan has released got there's armies
Speaker 1: for a final rebellion, but as swiftly defeated. I think
Speaker 1: I already did read this. The debtor judged before the
Speaker 1: great White Throne, and those whose names are not found
Speaker 1: in the Book of Life are also cast into the
Speaker 1: lake of fire. There's a new heaven and a new Earth.
Speaker 1: Right John sees a new heaven and a new Earth
Speaker 1: where God dwells with his people in the New Jerusalem.
Speaker 1: There is no more suffering, death or sin. The book
Speaker 1: ends with a vision of eternal life in God's presence
Speaker 1: and a final call to be ready for Christ's return.
Speaker 1: It presents a dramatic and symbolic vision of the end
Speaker 1: of times. But actually, you know it's crazy. I think
Speaker 1: it's in the Book of Matthew right when Jesus is
Speaker 1: doing his whole ministry during the Gospels. Let me see
Speaker 1: if I can find this. But in the original translation,
Speaker 1: he didn't say the end of time. It was the
Speaker 1: end of an age.
Speaker 3: That's an important distinction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gee, I'm gonna see if I can find this real.
Speaker 3: Quick, because in the time is into all of the ages.
Speaker 3: And I got two cousins named Matthew, yeah, and John,
Speaker 3: and I got a drawn up in there. Yeah, actually
Speaker 3: we got we got infinite number of John's in my family.
Speaker 3: It's a family name going back many, many, many, many
Speaker 3: generations to Greece.
Speaker 1: My family name going back many generations is like I
Speaker 1: think it's like Henry William James. Is that deed? Is
Speaker 1: he going crazy over there? Yeah? Matthew twenty eight, Chapter
Speaker 1: twenty eight, Verse twenty and lo I am with you always,
Speaker 1: even into the end of the age.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm end of the age. Important distinction, Yeah, very important.
Speaker 1: Talks about the end of the age. Huh what age?
Speaker 3: Age before the Age of Aquarius?
Speaker 1: Maybe, yeah, I don't know the age where you know?
Speaker 1: His symbol to fish?
Speaker 3: What right? Yes?
Speaker 1: Why Why are we on Pisces? Why are the symbol
Speaker 1: of the fish we have the miracle of spreading five
Speaker 1: thousand fish yep to the people, you know. But anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I want to reiterate that I do think that
Speaker 1: the events of the Book of Revelations are symbolic. I
Speaker 1: do not think that what we are going to see
Speaker 1: is going to play out literally like it has written
Speaker 1: the text. I think it works like this. We have
Speaker 1: an alignment in twenty seventeen that matches the description of
Speaker 1: the text and the prophecy. Oh great, look we have
Speaker 1: a there's the Woman in the Red Dragon. Right this April,
Speaker 1: there is a five something five point two or whatever
Speaker 1: magnitude earthquake in New York City, and then there's this
Speaker 1: major eclipse. Right, well, guess what the sixth seal is.
Speaker 1: There's going to be a great earthquake and then the
Speaker 1: sun turns black. Oh cool, that's the six Seal. That's
Speaker 1: how I think it is. I think it's like things
Speaker 1: will happen synchronistically that are like reminiscent of events in
Speaker 1: the text. I don't think demons are going to come
Speaker 1: out of the ground by the billions. I think it's
Speaker 1: very It might be silly to say this, but I
Speaker 1: think that there are a lot of people out there
Speaker 1: who do believe in this stuff literally, and it's important
Speaker 1: you know what you know exactly what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: A lot of people believe.
Speaker 1: I get messages being like, what do you think We're
Speaker 1: going to be raptured? And I'm like, no, I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't think so it just doesn't make sense, but
Speaker 1: it don't click up.
Speaker 3: But hey, what do I know? What is anybody? You know?
Speaker 1: What is happening though right now an alien deception And
Speaker 1: that's to me, the most insidious thing of them all
Speaker 1: is the inception that they're playing with the UFO story.
Speaker 1: I have noticed a huge uptick in people messaging me
Speaker 1: saying I'm in aliens now because the last year's Congress hearing. Really,
Speaker 1: your whole life is devoted to learning about aliens now
Speaker 1: because of what the government said a year ago. I've
Speaker 1: been in the game almost eighteen years. I met a
Speaker 1: lot of people who didn't give a shit about aliens
Speaker 1: until last year. See what I'm saying, Like, people are
Speaker 1: really impacted by what they're saying and the lies that
Speaker 1: they're pushing. And word on the street is they're going
Speaker 1: to have another Who knows by the time this episode airs,
Speaker 1: it might already be out. There's supposed to be another
Speaker 1: congressional thing in November about that about aliens.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like like the last time when they had the
Speaker 1: uh the grush guy, remember the one reading a piece
Speaker 1: of paper saying he you know, oh yeah, yeah, who
Speaker 1: had all these answers that everybody was freaking out about
Speaker 1: but it was all on a piece of paper and
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, but I never seen any of those.
Speaker 3: Mm hm.
Speaker 1: Well they have another one of those coming apparently in November.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting here anticipating, like, how many more
Speaker 1: people are going to be fooled? How many more people
Speaker 1: are going to be fooled by this beast system? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the one that it talks about with the ten heads
Speaker 1: or you know, the seven heads and the ten crowns,
Speaker 1: the one holding these congressional hearings. Yeah, and you know,
Speaker 1: running these elections and fucking doing all this stuff. And
Speaker 1: you see what I'm saying, right, Yeah, I don't know, bro,
Speaker 1: I seen a lot of light beings. I ain't never
Speaker 1: seen an alien, That's all I'm saying. So I'm saying, dude,
Speaker 1: I think I think, like now it's it's getting down
Speaker 1: to the wire.
Speaker 3: I never seen no green booger man.
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen no green booger man smoking no
Speaker 1: dope woods, so I thought this would be really cool
Speaker 1: to talk about, just to hit home the notion that
Speaker 1: this biblical story of the end of Times is actually
Speaker 1: older than the Bible, that this is a prophecy that
Speaker 1: has existed potentially as little as a thousand years before.
Speaker 3: So we're talking you're talking Mesopotamian, you're talking Zoroastrian.
Speaker 1: Zoroastrianism and Mithraism. So Mithraism is it's this, To put
Speaker 1: it simply, at the time of Christ, there was this
Speaker 1: Roman mystery school where a lot of like influential, powerful,
Speaker 1: wealthy people would meet in secret and they had this
Speaker 1: secret god, this secret mystery system that like very little
Speaker 1: is known about today still like ever ever will be
Speaker 1: known and it's Mithraism, right, So they have all these
Speaker 1: archaeological finds of this statue and it's Mythrus and he's
Speaker 1: this being with this cape that's like full of the
Speaker 1: twinkling stars, and it's always like he's slain the bull.
Speaker 1: But when you look at the bull, it has this
Speaker 1: like cosmic star map. So it's pretty clear that they
Speaker 1: used astro theology right, So like they determined their spiritual beliefs,
Speaker 1: religious beliefs, whatever on the positioning of the stars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there is no telling how the system is. There's not
Speaker 1: like much that's really known about them today other than
Speaker 1: like archaeological digs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know.
Speaker 1: So in the theme of the final judgment, which takes
Speaker 1: place in the Book of Revelation. This occurs in Mithraism.
Speaker 1: With a final judgment, the souls of the righteous are rewarded,
Speaker 1: the wicked are punished. And then you also have Zoroastrian eschatology,
Speaker 1: which is like at the end of time, there's a
Speaker 1: final judgment, the dead will be resurrected, the souls will
Speaker 1: be judged, the righteous will cross the chin bridge to paradise,
Speaker 1: while the wicked will fall into a chasm of suffering.
Speaker 1: But then in the end, all the souls are purified
Speaker 1: and then the evil is like completely eradicated, which is
Speaker 1: kind of what I believe. I believe that it's like
Speaker 1: kind of like hermeticism, right, like we all have that chance.
Speaker 1: Like I don't believe in a final hell. Like, dude,
Speaker 1: it can't be a real it can't it can't be.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: It makes zero sense you get a fraction of an
Speaker 3: amount of time in like the material world, and based
Speaker 3: off of that, you are condemned to eternal suffering.
Speaker 1: It is just bogus that that is a very kind
Speaker 1: of like nihilistic negative view of the universe. It's so
Speaker 1: emo and I'm not like it is. And I'm not hating.
Speaker 1: I want to make it very clear. I'm not hating
Speaker 1: on God or Christ. I'm not saying that they are
Speaker 1: bad things. I'm saying that the system we have today
Speaker 1: cannot be correct. Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do want to be compassionate and careful,
Speaker 3: and you know I don't. I don't judge anybody for
Speaker 3: what they believe, truly, I don't. I just I'm speaking
Speaker 3: my truth and the things that I believe in, so don't.
Speaker 3: I hope nobody takes any judgment from what I say.
Speaker 3: But personally, I think the whole health thing is bullshit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just me. Like I was telling this to somebody
Speaker 1: on the phone the other day, like, I'm not Christian,
Speaker 1: but I try to be christ Like, you know, I
Speaker 1: I think like I think Christ is amazing, and I
Speaker 1: think for anyone to say I'm spiritual Okay, Well, if
Speaker 1: you're spiritual, if you're you know, a mystic, or if
Speaker 1: you're somebody who is inclined to open yourself to learn
Speaker 1: the secrets of the universe, then you're not really that spiritual.
Speaker 1: If you say, I like Jesus, but oh fuck Buddha. No,
Speaker 1: you you have to recognize what is good from all
Speaker 1: things you know, And I take issue with that when
Speaker 1: people are like you, who I like, you know, crystals
Speaker 1: in taro in this, but oh Jesus, no, I hate that.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, I'm sorry, but you're just you're just like
Speaker 1: you're closing one eye and then you're looking out with
Speaker 1: half sight, like you're not being genuine and your approach
Speaker 1: to everything, the mysteries of the universe, spirituality, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that too comes from probably
Speaker 1: like religious trauma. People.
Speaker 3: People are so traumatized by their religious upbringing, and I
Speaker 3: think they want to cast it aside.
Speaker 1: I think Hell has a lot of play in that,
Speaker 1: because Hell, to me, is just a control mechanism. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: and then then it becomes Christianity is just a control
Speaker 1: mechanism because you've taken one slice of what some Christians
Speaker 1: believe in and now they are throwing Jesus Christ himself
Speaker 1: is a control mechanism. But that doesn't bathwater baby. Everybody's
Speaker 1: gone yeah, yeah, well, I mean, you know, it doesn't
Speaker 1: take a big brain to see that. You have billions
Speaker 1: of people over the last thousands of years like twisting
Speaker 1: the idea, and then you read the text of what
Speaker 1: the actual person said and it's completely different. It's pretty
Speaker 1: good stuff. It's great, you know what I'm saying. That's
Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Not so I'm down with boy jac
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong. Jesus is dope. I think. I
Speaker 1: think when it comes to this particular conversation, it's very
Speaker 1: important to be clear because people get really you know,
Speaker 1: really I had a conversation, but yeah, they get really touchy,
Speaker 1: and it's very clear to say, like I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to be disrespectful or anything like that, just I just
Speaker 1: believe it different, for sure. I believe that shit different.
Speaker 3: I think Jesus is he was one of the many stages.
Speaker 3: He was one of the many mystics of this this realm,
Speaker 3: And like, I don't think we should throw that baby
Speaker 3: out with that bathom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all I'm saying. I think that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I think there's some really good stuff there.
Speaker 1: Get some hot, fresh new bath water. Yeah, yeah, particularly
Speaker 1: never mind clean clean. I was not going to say
Speaker 1: from any game or girls, all right, because it would
Speaker 1: sell out. That's good. You weren't going to say that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm glad you didn't say and I didn't.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't saying I didn't say it, right,
Speaker 1: So anyway, so then you have the knock.
Speaker 3: The by Jesus bath water in the jar.
Speaker 1: Bro Dude, it's what do you think holy water is? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What do you think wine is? Its blood? Spoken like
Speaker 1: a true Catholic, Right, I'm skipping flesh. Shut me with
Speaker 1: a grape juice.
Speaker 3: These sounds have fledged, that's what they think.
Speaker 1: I know. So on the doctrine, we think yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And on the doctrine of the resurrections dead. Right now,
Speaker 1: you'll like this one, Alex. You might not have known
Speaker 1: this one, even though we did an entire episode on
Speaker 1: it might not have the ideas of the final Judgment,
Speaker 1: the resurrection of the dead, heaven and Hell, a god
Speaker 1: and a Satan dual system actually come from Zoroastrianism. Well,
Speaker 1: it all sounds very hermetic, right, Well, yes it does.
Speaker 1: But Zoroastrianism, particularly what no Zoroastrianism is three thousand years ago.
Speaker 3: Oh, I thought Zoroastrianism was like one of the oldest
Speaker 3: monotheistic Really.
Speaker 1: I'm getting Hermes trace Magistus and Zoroaster confews. That's my problem.
Speaker 1: They're both amazing individuals. Yeah, but if the legends are correct,
Speaker 1: which I tend to believe they are, hermis Trusts was
Speaker 1: before all of them, you know, so true that anyway,
Speaker 1: So Zoroastrianism was in Persia in one thousand BC. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I forgot to even mention this that they talked
Speaker 1: about the star that would herald the birth of the Saoshan,
Speaker 1: which is you know, the story of the Magi. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the story of the Magi in the Book of Matthew.
Speaker 1: So there's this like clear historical connection between Zoroastrianism and Christianity,
Speaker 1: and the text is not necessarily acknowledged, but you can
Speaker 1: just kind of have an overview of history and see it.
Speaker 1: What's up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the in the story like of the Birth
Speaker 3: of Jesus, it's like these three magi, but they don't
Speaker 3: say there's Zoroastrian magi. Like they're they're from Zoroastrianism, don't
Speaker 3: never say nothing about that.
Speaker 1: So anyway, So the resurrection of the dead doctrine in Zoroastrianism,
Speaker 1: they believed that it would be resurrected in a physical
Speaker 1: form at the time of final judgment, and after the
Speaker 1: resurrection there will be a final purification. And then in
Speaker 1: the Christian version, it's like there's the resurrection of the dead.
Speaker 1: Believers in Christ will be resurrected to eternal life and
Speaker 1: non believers to eternal damnation. There's that eternal hell thing
Speaker 1: that will take issue with. I don't like that part.
Speaker 1: Myth Raism believes. It's not actually very clear what they
Speaker 1: believe on the resurrection of the dead. It could involve
Speaker 1: the souls of the dead being raised. They're not sure
Speaker 1: because there's very little really known about myth Raism. The
Speaker 1: concept of a cosmic struggle between good and evil. Zoroastrianism
Speaker 1: was I think one of the first genuine belief systems
Speaker 1: that had the notion of a like a demonic figure,
Speaker 1: you know, in the sense that it is like an
Speaker 1: oposing force to God. Horror Mazda no, no, no, that
Speaker 1: was God, and Mazda was a light what was the
Speaker 1: dark one? Are also known as ariman. Right. There's a
Speaker 1: book called Rudolph Steiner called The Arimanic Deception, which is
Speaker 1: really cool that talks about how that like literally influenced
Speaker 1: esoteric thought for thousands of years. When you know Araman
Speaker 1: was introduced, well yeah, and uh, you know, if you
Speaker 1: think about it biblically, there really wasn't the notion of
Speaker 1: like one satan in the Old Testament?
Speaker 3: Yeah, there wasn't.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't. In the Book of Genesis there was,
Speaker 1: Uh the serpent, who's that? I don't know. People think
Speaker 1: it's Lucifer, people think it's Satan. You don't know, just
Speaker 1: says the serpent.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was always taught that it was because they're speculating, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're speculating based on thousands of years of people saying
Speaker 1: that there's there's no can you shut the door, thank you,
Speaker 1: there's no proof of that. And and then again in
Speaker 1: the Book of Job there is this, uh they might
Speaker 1: even call him Satan, but even the form a in
Speaker 1: of the devil or whatever. In the Book of Job,
Speaker 1: he comes up to God and they're like kind of homies,
Speaker 1: and they're like, you want to.
Speaker 3: Make a bet, made a friendly wager exactly.
Speaker 1: And then by the time you get to the New
Speaker 1: Testament there which is way past you know, Zoroastronism being out,
Speaker 1: they have all these doctrines of a Messiah and uh
Speaker 1: you know this, this whole fleshed out idea of life
Speaker 1: after death and a Satan and a dark force, and
Speaker 1: like the the whole system completely changed. So that's what
Speaker 1: I was getting at. But anyway, so you have Ahura
Speaker 1: Mazda and then the evil reflection or the shadow Angri Minu.
Speaker 1: At the end of time, a Huramasta will triumph over
Speaker 1: Angri Minu and evil will be eradicated from the world.
Speaker 1: Christianity positives, there's a cosmic struggle between God and Satan.
Speaker 1: At the end of time, Christ will defeat Satan. So
Speaker 1: Christ is like the Avatar of God in Earth. In Hinduism,
Speaker 1: you also have a similar idea that there will be
Speaker 1: a tenth and final Avatar. I believe his name is
Speaker 1: cal Key, and he incarnates on earth and then destroys
Speaker 1: the forces of evil and ends the Cali Yuga and
Speaker 1: saves mankind. You guys getting out what I'm putting down here.
Speaker 1: There's systems all over the world that have the same
Speaker 1: story that they come in and they say there's this
Speaker 1: savior type force that.
Speaker 3: Wipes out the bad force and saves us.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, Mithraism, there's a final cosmic battle
Speaker 1: between good and evil. Mythriss obviously is like their version
Speaker 1: of Jesus. He's like this human incarnated Avatar. The forces
Speaker 1: of good come out on the other side, and then
Speaker 1: there's a new era in Age of Piece.
Speaker 3: You know what Gandalf's Elvish name is, what methrend you?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Really, it could be some sort of synchronistic connection, and.
Speaker 3: Like he is explained like they are explained. The wizards,
Speaker 3: the Istari are explained as avatars of Illuvitar, which is God. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so that's pretty wild.
Speaker 1: That's sick saying, yeah, there could be a connection there.
Speaker 1: Zoroastrianism on the nature of like the world being, you know,
Speaker 1: because they always talk about the new Jerusalem, right thousand
Speaker 1: years of Piece and then we live with God forever
Speaker 1: right Age of Aquari is well, this is the or
Speaker 1: Zoroastrian take. After the final judgment, the world is purified
Speaker 1: by fire, than a new, perfect world is created. The
Speaker 1: righteous live in eternal bliss, there will be no more
Speaker 1: evil or suffering Christianity. Obviously, there's a final judgment, there's
Speaker 1: a new heaven, a new earth. God reigns for eternity,
Speaker 1: and the righteous will live in peace and happiness with God.
Speaker 1: Mithraism likely includes some form of cosmic renewal or restoration
Speaker 1: after the final battle, although obviously there's not much detail
Speaker 1: on it. A new age of righteousness and peace follows
Speaker 1: victory over evil. Yeah, so I thought it would be
Speaker 1: really cool to show like systems much older that have
Speaker 1: this same story. Ha out and then just a little
Speaker 1: bit on astrotheology. I think I wrote down a few things, but.
Speaker 3: Astro theology, which is like pulling theological concepts from the stars. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like kind of mythology type stuff, pulling it from constellations
Speaker 3: and alignments.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so if you see here the depiction of Mythrus,
Speaker 1: he's always shown slang a bull. Now I know they
Speaker 1: can't see it. But and then when you find like
Speaker 1: archaeological dig sites where they had worship of Mythraism or
Speaker 1: you know, myth Rate worshipers whatever, there was a star
Speaker 1: map on the bull, like they would literally have some
Speaker 1: sort of compass that was like pointing out constellations and stuff.
Speaker 1: They're always depicting mythrs with a cape of stars. They're
Speaker 1: showing you like the it's in the stars, the macrocosmic
Speaker 1: kind of parallel. Yeah, the bull was believed to literally
Speaker 1: be a star map with the zodiac.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Wow. So basically like so the Persian Mystics. This is
Speaker 1: what I wrote down weeks ago when we were about
Speaker 1: to do this episode involving Mithraism and the connection with Christianity.
Speaker 1: The Persian Mystics invaded Italy during the first century after Christ,
Speaker 1: and the early history of both cults was closely interwoven.
Speaker 1: The Encyclopedia Britannica makes the following statement concerning the Mithraic
Speaker 1: and Christian mysteries. The fraternal and democratic spirit of the
Speaker 1: first communities and their humble origin. The identification of the
Speaker 1: object of adoration with light and the sun, the legends
Speaker 1: of the shepherds with their gifts of adoration, the flood
Speaker 1: and the arc, the representation and art of the fiery chariot,
Speaker 1: the drawing of water from the rock, the use of
Speaker 1: bell and candle, holy water and communion in the sanctification
Speaker 1: of Sunday and of the twenty fifth of December. The
Speaker 1: insistence on moral conduct, the emphasis placed on abstinence and
Speaker 1: self control, the doctrine of heaven and Hell, a primitive
Speaker 1: revelation of the mediation of the logos emanating from the divine,
Speaker 1: the atoning sacrifice, the constant warfare between good and evil,
Speaker 1: the final triumph of the former, the immortality of the soul,
Speaker 1: the last judgment, the resurrection of the flesh, and the
Speaker 1: fiery destruction of the universe. These are some of the
Speaker 1: resemblances which real or only apparent, enabled Mithraism to prolong
Speaker 1: its resistance to Christianity. The rites of Mythris were performed
Speaker 1: in caves. Porphyry, in his Cave of the Nymphs the Nymphs,
Speaker 1: states that Zarathustra, which was the real human name of Zoroaster,
Speaker 1: was the first to consecrate a cave to the worship
Speaker 1: of God, because a cavern symbolic of the earth or
Speaker 1: the lower world of darkness. John P. Lundy, in his
Speaker 1: Monumental Christianity, describes the Cave of Mithras as follows. But
Speaker 1: this cave was adorned with the signs of the zodiac,
Speaker 1: cancer and Capricorn, the summer and winter solstices were chiefly
Speaker 1: conspicuous as the gates of souls descending into this life
Speaker 1: or passing out of it in their ascent to the gods,
Speaker 1: Cancer being the gate of descent and Capricorn of ascent.
Speaker 1: These are the two avenues of the immortals, passing up
Speaker 1: and down from Earth to heaven and from Heaven to Earth.
Speaker 1: Also important to note this is not me reading anymore.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, I'm just telling you off the top
Speaker 1: of the dome. Over time, a horamazda or you could
Speaker 1: say zoroastronism came to develop this idea that there was
Speaker 1: the spirit of the fire known as Mithra. Mmmm, WHOA, right,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Thousand years later, yeh Rome they had this
Speaker 1: whole its myth Russ. I mean, it's this savior figure
Speaker 1: born and for.
Speaker 3: It to have only changed that much in a thousand years,
Speaker 3: it's like, my whole.
Speaker 1: Point is that there is some mysterious connection between systems
Speaker 1: that the majority of the world does not really fathom,
Speaker 1: that maybe there's something more to the story than just
Speaker 1: like our recent take on it. But like this is
Speaker 1: a this is a cosmological story, this is an astro
Speaker 1: theological story. This this could be a cycle that happens
Speaker 1: over and over and over. Infinitely, yeah, infinitely exactly. And
Speaker 1: they're giving us the story from the stars. It's metaphor.
Speaker 1: We have the Revelation story, you know, and it's this
Speaker 1: metaphor about dragons and crowns and horrors from Babylon and
Speaker 1: angels and balls of incense and blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: But this the key, the key template of this story,
Speaker 1: that there is an age of darkness that ramps up
Speaker 1: and ramps up and ramps up, and then it's just
Speaker 1: snuffed out and then there's this whole brand new age
Speaker 1: of light and piece like this is told over and
Speaker 1: over and over for god knows how many eons, dude,
Speaker 1: since uh, you know, like we said with Hinduism, with Kyalki,
Speaker 1: this this final avatar coming in and that that's my point.
Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to kind of end up at,
Speaker 1: was to give people hope to say, like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe there's something to it. Maybe there is something to
Speaker 1: the notion that we are truly approaching an age of piece,
Speaker 1: you know, like m which.
Speaker 3: I think is a much much more happy ending than
Speaker 3: like a ten headed dragon, and like fire and a
Speaker 3: third of the world dying and like you know all
Speaker 3: that stuff, Like Revelations is kind of a scary book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. You know, it's death metal and it's
Speaker 1: very deffa. It's like black metal.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hardcore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's it was kind of used in
Speaker 3: the churches that I went to it it was kind
Speaker 3: of used to scare. When it was mentioned, it was like,
Speaker 3: you know, oh, like, dude, I remember this one time
Speaker 3: they gave this sermon about Revelations.
Speaker 1: And dude, this when I was like a kid, like
Speaker 1: eight years old to ten years old.
Speaker 3: They made every kid come up to the stage and
Speaker 3: one by one they asked us all like, uh, when
Speaker 3: the end of the world happens, what are you gonna
Speaker 3: tell God? Like, what are you gonna when when God
Speaker 3: asks you if you should be raptured or not? What
Speaker 3: are you gonna tell him? It's like, what the fuck?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's messing up saying this to children, like specifically
Speaker 1: bringing kids up giving them nightmares. Yes, it's crazy. What
Speaker 1: did you say? Oh, dude, I I did is still
Speaker 1: poke them on car.
Speaker 3: I know that what I did say, I was kind
Speaker 3: of I don't remember what I said, but I do
Speaker 3: know that their reaction was like wrong answer, which was yeah, which.
Speaker 1: Was like what like a sorting hat for heaven or hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly. I think it was something they said, something
Speaker 3: to the effect of like, uh, who when they ask you,
Speaker 3: when God asked you, who's gonna pay for your sins?
Speaker 3: What are you gonna say? And I was like me,
Speaker 3: and they were like, yep, You're going to hell.
Speaker 1: Shit, that's crazy, man, it was.
Speaker 3: But anyway, it's like it's used to It was used
Speaker 3: to scare, but it's I think the much more important
Speaker 3: message that we're trying to kind of get through to
Speaker 3: people is that this is a much, much, much much
Speaker 3: older story than revelations. It's a prophecy that's been written
Speaker 3: in the stars an infinite amount of time ago, and
Speaker 3: it's about the triumph of good over evil and how
Speaker 3: good will always triumph over evil.
Speaker 1: I do think we're in the end of times. I
Speaker 1: think we're in the end of bad times right really,
Speaker 1: Like I think that. I mean just private conversations I
Speaker 1: have with Dad where I'm like asking them, like, you know,
Speaker 1: how he interprets what that shift will be, like, what
Speaker 1: he thinks, what we think. Really What I think too,
Speaker 1: is here's how I see it plan out. I think
Speaker 1: that there is going to be a rapid shift in
Speaker 1: our under standing of things, and I think that more
Speaker 1: people around the world are going to begin to see
Speaker 1: the lights, and there's going to be more rapid advancements
Speaker 1: of technology. I mean, AI is hitting the scene now,
Speaker 1: We're talking about having robots and all this kind of
Speaker 1: crazy stuff. I think that everything is going to accelerate,
Speaker 1: sof like, we're going to hit this what's the word,
Speaker 1: We're going to hit a singularity of just growth where
Speaker 1: our technology explodes, our understanding of consciousness and everything explodes.
Speaker 1: Where I think we're going to completely shift in our
Speaker 1: understanding of like what we are in the universe and
Speaker 1: what we can do. And I think the next generation
Speaker 1: of kids, like the little Teddies and the Maddies, I
Speaker 1: think they're going to grow up and they're going to
Speaker 1: be able to just be like fully psyched people. I
Speaker 1: think that it's something that we're going to develop very
Speaker 1: It's like it's like they you know, they started messing
Speaker 1: around with rocket proposal type stuff in the forties, you know,
Speaker 1: like really like for the first time, and then by
Speaker 1: the sixties they went to the moon. I know a
Speaker 1: lot of people believe they didn't, But I'm just saying
Speaker 1: they can go fast.
Speaker 3: It can.
Speaker 1: You get started on something and then it accelerates and
Speaker 1: it accelerates and accelerates. And I think that that's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen with consciousness. Yes, with consciousness, when when
Speaker 1: people around the world begin to see and dude, this
Speaker 1: is why they're spreading the alien lie. They do not
Speaker 1: want people to have the notion that it's something that
Speaker 1: involves our mind. They desperately want people to disconnect from
Speaker 1: that notion.
Speaker 3: I also think they just want us to fully sink
Speaker 3: into materialism.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course, yeah.
Speaker 3: They don't want us to body.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, because you know,
Speaker 1: they don't want us to rapidly evolve. They want us
Speaker 1: to be dumb, little subjugated slaves. Yeah exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And they want us to be sick and low vibrational
Speaker 1: and stupid and and completely blind to the reality of
Speaker 1: the universe and natural law. And you know, they just
Speaker 1: want us to be completely disconnected from our source. But
Speaker 1: I think that the universe has another plan. Yes, it's
Speaker 1: not gonna work, It's not no, and it's worked for
Speaker 1: a long time. But I think that now we've entered
Speaker 1: a shift. I think that God is closer than ever,
Speaker 1: and I think like, woe unto those who suppress the light.
Speaker 1: I would hate to be on that fucking team. I
Speaker 1: would hate to be on the team that actively. This
Speaker 1: is what we were talking about in full disclosure the
Speaker 1: other day. Woe unto the motherfuckers who suppress the light
Speaker 1: and prevent people from evolving. I think that there's gonna
Speaker 1: be repercussions on them, all the people out there spreading
Speaker 1: the lies and harming people. I think there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a very rapid shift and there's gonna be repercussions on
Speaker 1: those people, and they're gonna get what they deserve. And
Speaker 1: that's all I'm gonna say.
Speaker 3: Yeah, be on the team of the light, y'all. The
Speaker 3: will of human consciousness is undying, Like we ain't gonna
Speaker 3: let it happen to us. We ain't gonna sit idly by.
Speaker 1: That's all I'm gonna say about that.
Speaker 3: Let the corruption take over, have heart, have hope. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be all right, Gonna be all right, Yeah, man,
Speaker 3: We're gonna be all right.
Speaker 1: I'm tired of whipping a dead horse, bro. But I
Speaker 1: just I just felt like, you know, I'm getting a
Speaker 1: lot of messages about you know, the raptures come in
Speaker 1: and all kinds of stuff like that. So I mean
Speaker 1: it's fun to talk about too. Oh yeah, I think it.
Speaker 3: Was an important episode. I think this is going to
Speaker 3: give people some hope.
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that or they'll you know, they'll just be like,
Speaker 1: you know, cool, never read it, like Alex, never read
Speaker 1: the Book of Revelations. I mean, it's an arly book, bro,
Speaker 1: because you got to think, man, there's like two billion
Speaker 1: people in this world. I believe it. Literally, that's kind
Speaker 1: of you know, people might be like, why, a, you're
Speaker 1: wasting your time on biblical scripture. I don't know, because
Speaker 1: that's the majority of the population, you know, Yeah, Christianity,
Speaker 1: Islam and Judaism. That's like literally the bulk of the
Speaker 1: whole planet. I'd say that's a pretty fair listener base
Speaker 1: to address. I think that thing they kind of deserve
Speaker 1: whole segments.
Speaker 3: Most of the world, the majority of our play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. Yeah, anyway, I think
Speaker 1: it's worth talking. I'm out of steam, and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm out of gas.
Speaker 3: All right, cool, my guys, I guess what ut bonmies.
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