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were around last night, things got a little funky in here.
I don't know something else got put out on purpose,
but you got a nice look into the personal life
that I live. Not always you know, it's just it's
it's real. I would have put all the stuff out there,
but out of respect to others, I thought that that
wouldn't be good because even my mother's upset with me
that I said on a podcast when I was talking
about my dad and going up to help move that
she's like a one like a duck, And so she
texted me last night about the one like a duck comment.
So there's always somebody in my life. I just want
you to know that is not usually happy with the
way things get described. But I have just I say
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about everything forever, so I'm not changing now. You're not
putting that GD back in the bottle here. However, there
are other people whose lives do get affected in my family,
namely like my kids, so I try to be a
little more careful with that sort of thing. My dad
apparently made it through the surgery, but then has aspiration pneumonia,
UTI doesn't really know where he is. There's all kinds
of fun with that. We don't want to dwell on
those sorts of things. Tonight, everybody seemed to abandon me
for the podcast, but I went back and I got
our friend Alex, a reality TV producer, creator, content creator,
does all kinds of wonderful things and knows a lot
of the celebrity gossip stuff. So I was very excited
that she would agree to come on. And a little
later we're gonna have another friend of the show, Deputy Hurley,
join us. Not that that's anything that you need to
be around for. But they found a big there's a
big Now, I gotta play this for you, Alex, just
to get your They found like a mountain lion or
something wandering through the streets of Rochester. Okay, do you
like pet? Okay, so immediately I owe this is somebody's
pet that got out or it's an the legal pet
that somebody has because it didn't escape from the zoo.
It's not there. And somebody had ring cam footage of
it walking by, and then they interviewed this dude who
said he came in contact with it.
Speaker 3: I was just walking to the store, you know, an
out here people running and coming back this way.
Speaker 2: Like oh oh. I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker 3: So I just kept walking, mind of my business, and
I keep coming down the street and I just see
some big shs keeping the lud.
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, I just kept im am, I just left.
I'm gone.
Speaker 3: I don't play them type games. I don't play with dogs, snakes,
I don't do the rattles. I don't do none of
that type of wildlife stuff, understand.
Speaker 4: I don't do that.
Speaker 3: I just let it go, kepting finding my business. But
that thing like this, damn, I'm so no police came,
they squatted everything or got this thing cleared up all that.
They just got it blocked off, and I'm just around here.
I'm trying to see what it is. See if I
can get up there, give me a line, as we
should tend to meet. I never had a line.
Speaker 1: Wow, you gotta admit that some people just have a
great attitude no matter what. But that's the We'll have
deputy early. That maybe shed a little more light even
though it's a city related thing. But Alex did a
lot of reality TV stuff. I think there's shows that
are on streaming services now that we can watch that
you produced. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, all the Project Runways I did are on Netflix now.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 5: I did the later seasons when it went back to
Bravo after leaving Lifetime from the Weinstein scandal, so that's
like season seventeen, eighteen and nineteen. I also got the
privilege of producing the Project Runaway After Show, which was
a really fun talk show. You can go to Bravo
dot com and watch those episodes. We played like talk
show games with the contestants and you know, made them
fun drinks and it was just kind of a fun
way of like interacting after the fact and extending the
content and taking some brand money.
Speaker 6: And Miss Dev's House you can find that, ye, Miss
TeX's House coming out pretty soon.
Speaker 1: The what season.
Speaker 6: The second season's coming out pretty soon.
Speaker 1: I think August I saw Okay and you did that?
That was That's a pretty good show. That's fun. Yeah,
that was. I didn't know anything about her, but man,
that ladies on on, I mean, she knows her stuff.
Speaker 5: She sure doesn't don't play with miss Devs.
Speaker 1: You know. But when you do these reality TV shows,
has there been anything that was like, was really truly
shocking to you? You know, you get to be behind
the scenes of things. Did you ever see anything that
was like a.
Speaker 6: Boy, Yeah, I mean there was.
Speaker 5: I did a lot of shows on VH one for
a while, so I did a lot of like The
Love and Hip Hops and The Black Inks, and there's
a lot of fighting on that stuff. And I think
like the first time I ever saw two people like
start physically fighting in an enclosed space like for camera purposes,
not that we made them do it, just clarity, But
that was a little jarring because it was like, oh, man,
like this is some physical violence. And I do remember
that during the like the later end of season three
of Black Ink, there was some tension between two of
the main characters, like real life tension. Some things happened
off camera that ended up on World Star Hip Hop
and all this stuff, like a huge, huge altercation things
like that. So there was some really bad blood and
there were quite a few times when things got like
really tense between them or like you know, and it
just was like wow, you know, you see it on
TV and it feels so sensationalized. It was even more
so like in the moment. And then you know, being
on the first forty eight when I left the break
room and I did the First forty eight and I
was on the scene of live homicides, like in the
field with detectives.
Speaker 1: That was I mean, yeah, that's not too intense for me.
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 1: It was.
Speaker 6: I was so not for pard. I had come from
TV news, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was in I was a producer
and producer stuff onto the field really like I had
never I was like, yes, I'm absolutely qualified to be
on the first forty eight.
Speaker 6: Yes, hire me.
Speaker 5: And then I was just like wow, Wow, what a
what a job. So I really have a lot of
respect for those guys that do it well.
Speaker 1: I don't have I don't think in anything you've got
to jump in, like there's for some jobs, for some things,
And I think for almost any job, yes you can
get trained, Yes you can learn about if you're selling
a product, I got it. But you either you either
got it or you don't. In life, and I think
you know well, being able to carry a conversation actually
truly listen to somebody so you're hearing what they're saying
and you can come back with things. And uh, sometimes
you got to jump into sort of the deep end
to learn, and you got to learn to swim quickly.
And it sounds like the first forty eight man. After that,
maybe things were a lot easier. I don't know.
Speaker 5: I remember right after that, I went and interviewed for
Morgan Spurlock, who did that documentary Mansom, and he did
that Supersize Me where he ate all the McDonald's.
Speaker 6: So I interviewed for a.
Speaker 5: Job at his company and I ended up getting the job,
which was so fun. It was like one of the
first web series ever.
Speaker 6: It was on Yahoo.
Speaker 5: It was a spin off of the documentary Mansom, and
we basically did these like little vignettes for men, like
how to sharpen a steak knife, how to get a
proper shave.
Speaker 6: It was fun, It was really really fun.
Speaker 5: But I went in for the interview and the woman
was like, you know, tell me a little bit about
your experience.
Speaker 6: What have you been doing. I said, I have been
doing homicides.
Speaker 5: I've been following live homicides as they happen and dealing with.
Speaker 6: A lot of death.
Speaker 5: So could you please like let me dress up some
animals and some costumes or something like, I just can't.
It was so because my job on the show was
too essentially convince like next of kin family members and
friends to do interviews on behalf of the deceased person,
to build their story right so that the cops are investigating.
It's like, this is this person, here's all about him,
you know, here's why it's so tragic. Here's his sister,
here's his mom, here's his cousin. And you're in the
city of Rochester, which at the time was the violence
was very territorial. I don't know if it's still that way,
but there were certain neighborhood lines that you just did
not cross. And as a result of that, not a
lot of people wanted to talk to the cops.
Speaker 6: They were going to talk to me.
Speaker 5: I was coming with the cops, you know, So it
was very very challenging, and you catch somebody on their
worst day. They just lost a sibling, a brother, a
best friend. It was you know, it gave me a
lot of respect for the people that do this job.
And I think initially like the show's intention was to
tell the stories of these tragedies, like it's so sad,
we have to do something about the violence.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Alex also is getting into more of the creative
work of things like writing and stuff like that, because,
I mean, why not after being Jason tied tid Hey,
hey got a minute, can you tell me about your brother?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Oh no, you didn't know. They just shot him down
in the corner. We're just trying to build a story
about him. What you have hobbies? Did he do things?
I mean like that, that's what I'm picturing of my head.
Speaker 6: Do you want to know the worst part about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Like so when I when I got they send you
a field kit because you're in the field, So they
sent the production company sends you a big kit and
it has everything you're going to need for your work.
So there was like laptops and certain finders that they
keep certain documents in and stuff like you have to
keep you all organized for the production side of things.
Speaker 6: Also in that.
Speaker 5: Box is a cell phone called a murder phone, and
because it's hooked up to the police station, so you
have a second cell phone. So when a murder called
what a call comes in to the homicide department at
the police station.
Speaker 6: Your phone also ranks, so you know.
Speaker 5: That a call has come in and somebody's dead and
they have to go investigate it, and then you go,
you go and meet them. They also give you a
box of swag like key chains, water bottles, t shirts,
foam fingers.
Speaker 6: I was like, what is this swag?
Speaker 5: Like do they do events were like, do I give
this to the police office?
Speaker 1: No shots? Keys to give to the people that did
the interview. It was' finger number one. Your brother was
number one number one. He was, yeah, hey, you know
what if you turn it this way, it looks like
what took your brother's life?
Speaker 6: I mean, my job.
Speaker 5: There were so many moments during that show. I remember
we went into the police station with the heads of
the production company on the first day of shooting and
in the police station in downtown Rochester, they have a
big or they had at the time, a big whiteboard
in the office with all of the homicides for the
year on it, and they're color coded. This color means solved,
This colored means still in progress. This color means it's
a wrap. You know, it's closed, or it's just happened
or something. I don't exactly remember, but I do remember
that there was four There was a list of four names.
They were all the same name, and they were like
up on the bulletin board.
Speaker 6: And the executive.
Speaker 5: Producer said, oh, what's what's this? What are these four names?
And the officer was like, it was, it's it's it's
really terrible. It was a domestic violence incident. A girl
and her boyfriend got into an argument. She started burning
his stuff in the house, burned the house down, killed
herself and her four children. The executive producer says, oh,
that would have been a great episode.
Speaker 1: Somebody sent me an article that Cardi b and Stephan
Dicks had broken up and part of the reason was
that her BBL, which I did not know what BBL
stood for. I could come up with many things. They
wouldn't be accurate, but it may be fun. But the
BBL is Brazilian butt lift? Is that what that is?
Speaker 6: It? Sure is? I saw one done Live.
Speaker 5: Oh really, yeah, doctor Miami, how bad It's gross. At
the time was he was gaining notoriety on Snapchat. This
is how long ago this was because he does his bbls,
but he does it to a hip hop track, so
he's like in the background like Kanye like sucking the
fat out of yours.
Speaker 1: It is, so what is a BBL that was so
a Brazilian butt lift. It gives you more of a
butt that's like, I don't know, like a shelf.
Speaker 5: Basically, like they do liposuction around all of your like
your fat parts, like around your your under boob and
stuff like that, on your back fat, and then they
inject it into your butt and your hips. If you
you are somebody who doesn't have much of a booty,
you could just like re you know, harvest your fat,
your use your own fat and put in there rather
than doing like injections which could be poisonous and kill people,
and like or silicone, which is like a whole implant,
which can make you sick.
Speaker 6: This is essentially your.
Speaker 5: Own fat, but it's still like not an ideal procedure.
Because I saw this article about Cardi B's butt lift,
and then I saw a woman on Instagram doing a
whole video about how her BBL stinks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay, so he broke up with her because
her big, her Brazilian butt lifts stinks like trash, like garbage.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said, it's not like a garbage can or something.
Speaker 1: I thought that, But you're saying that. He didn't say that.
He's denying it, and they're allegedly still together. However, you're
saying this woman said her BBL stinks, like what like yes?
Speaker 5: Because so then videos later, like once you get into
the algorithm like Instagram serves, So I saw the Cardi
b thing and I was like, what are you talking about?
And then the next video was this woman explaining and
she kept calling it her sit down air, which I
was like, what are you?
Speaker 6: What do you mean.
Speaker 5: Like she would sit down. The few videos later there
was a stitch with a surgeon and he was saying
that if you don't properly take care of your incisions afterwards,
if you happen to now have a much larger backside
than you once did, it.
Speaker 1: Would be hard for you to.
Speaker 6: Clean proper.
Speaker 1: And I am fucking smart when it comes to the ass.
Speaker 5: Also had like fat necrosis, which is like the fat cells.
They put too many in so the fat cells die.
So essentially your butt inside is rotting.
Speaker 1: Yeah, rotting flesh.
Speaker 6: You're basically decomposing composition. It's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Wow. That is oh my god, And you think that's
why she got divorced from the game. Was that offset?
Thank you? Thank you. I don't know what I'm talking about. Wow,
so's it's God damn. Now, the thing is like horribly, horribly.
Men have four years talked about women and smells and
different things, and I just think that I go, let
me say this as a man, I wouldn't want to
smell my balls. I wouldn't want to go down. I mean,
come on, man, let's be an honest, you know. But
the but we're not talking about a shit smell necessarily,
or or a stinky fish. You're talking about rotting flesh,
which is really like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, for somebody like Carti, who has had butt injections
and had them removed because they were problematic, and has
had several procedures, she probably could be in the position
where I don't know that she isn't cleaning herself properly.
She'd probably pay somebody to do it. I think she
has more like if it's true, if the rumors are true,
that offset left because of sticky butt, Like she could
have that in necrosis problem because if you look at
her like.
Speaker 6: Just it just is so it's so round, you know
what I mean. There's so much back there.
Speaker 5: And every time she has a baby, she goes and
gets another procedure and just keeps filling it up. And
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Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a fine cool now.
Speaker 8: Okay, So on July nineteenth, I'm getting promoted and it
will be sergeant Hurly.
Speaker 4: So right, no more deputy, that's right, moving on up.
Speaker 8: But yep, so the plan right now, last I was
told was I'll train my replacement and then we will
be back on the road helping some of our young deputies.
Speaker 1: So that means we don't get to see you anymore.
We don't have you on anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I'm still around.
Speaker 1: But yeah, well, are you allowed? Would you be allowed
to talk to us? Or is this like we got
to go through the police information desk or whatever.
Speaker 4: That's a good no, I think we could probably still talk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, buddy, yes, I love it. Let's be a little rebellious.
It's just a slight bit, I mean, and you know
the stuff. Well, now you're going to see you may
be on some of the calls that we that are
are news or go as a support.
Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, yeah, leading the charge.
Speaker 1: Tell me what what is a sergeant versus you know
kind of what you what you do now? Because I
did have a friend who was a Monroe County sergeant
Jimmy Carroll. Uh yeah, and uh, I don't know what
the different rankings. I would assume there's probably more paperwork.
Speaker 4: I yep, that's more of a.
Speaker 8: It's more of an administrative role, not as much as
say like a lieutenant.
Speaker 4: Right. The higher up the ranking you go, the more
administrative and paperwork stuff like that.
Speaker 8: So you're a frontline supervisor. You're you're leading from the front.
You're you're leading the deputies. You're approving their time off
and making sure that their payroll is all done correctly.
And then you know all the all the videos and
stuff that you see online. As I want to talk
to your supervisor, well that'll that'll be me.
Speaker 1: Well, welcome to Karen. Hell, let me talk to your supervisor, sir,
My God, don't speak to me that way. We are
and what I believe is referred to as the one
hundred deadliest days? Is that accurate?
Speaker 8: So the one hundred deadliest days that I know of
is for driving and for teens. Because it's the time between.
Speaker 4: Labor Day and was it Memorial Day.
Speaker 1: Or Memorial Day in Labor Day? Right?
Speaker 4: Memorial Day and Labor Day?
Speaker 8: Right, it's essentially school when school's out, so you know
there's no school.
Speaker 4: Kids are out and about, they're looking for things to do.
Speaker 8: Just hey watch this, right, Yeah, So that's that's why
it's the hundred deadliest days.
Speaker 4: And it's just warmer.
Speaker 8: People are outside. You know, cabin fever's over. We're cooped
up for what nine months a year, so everybody wants
to be out and about doing things. Motorcycles are out,
you know, all those things that just contribute to disaster.
Speaker 1: Did you as a as a young person, and feel
free to plead the fifth, but did you ever car surf?
Sir alleged? Yeah, where you stand not on the hood,
but the roof of the car while somebody drives. Was
that That's how we did it? That's how I did it.
Speaker 4: So I never did that one.
Speaker 1: Oh I did do that. Yeah, I think we got
up to like thirty five. Oh really, Yeah, yeah, I
have good balance, you know what I mean. You had
a good balance and a hard roof like you couldn't
have one that Sometimes you get those roofs that could
give you go Like my fat buddy got up there
and put some fucking dents in the roof. But it
actually helped. Excuse me, but it did help a little
bit because now you had some places that you could
put your feet or around. It almost gave you a
little more surface area. Yeah, it sounds weird, pre made
dnse Yeah, yeah, yeah, there you got it.
Speaker 4: So now when you look back on that, what do
you think.
Speaker 1: I think that I am lucky to be alive. And
if I ever saw my kids doing it, I would
want to we always say I want to kill them.
I would want to have a discussion, like let's go
to a head trauma center and just see how this
turns out. Possibly. You know, my mom was a speech pathologist,
and I got my motorcycle permit behind their back, and
some of the guys on the street had an extra motorcycle,
so I went and rode with one of them, and
she came home and I think I had a I
did have a helmet on, but man, I got the
you don't understand head trauma victim bah bah bah bah
So I never rode a motorcycle ever again, never ever
did it. And I don't regret that that I don't
regret especially now. I mean, hurly, God, you look around.
First of all, the technology and cars is fantastic. I
have a car now that practically, if you are on
the highway or something, you can set cruise control and
driver assist and it drives itself. It slows down for
cars in front of it. It does all kinds of
stuff you need to be there. It will warn you
to keep your hands on the wheel because I didn't
want to see, like.
Speaker 4: Hey, what happens if I just you know, but it
is testing your limits.
Speaker 1: Well well i'll just see in what I got here.
I need to know. But but the point is everybody's
looking at their phone. And I know we have the
no touch rule in New York State, but there's a
whole lot of touching going on.
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.
Speaker 8: And I remember when I first started twenty years ago,
it was a fifty dollars fine your a cell phone
and no points. Right now you're what like five points
and over three hundred dollars and just the fines, not
the search charges and everything else, but.
Speaker 4: That all stems from the danger that cell phones are.
And we all have done it. We all know. There's
nobody who can argue that a cell phone isn't a distraction.
I mean, we've all done it, you know it. I mean,
how many.
Speaker 8: Mailboxes have you almost taken out because you were answering
a text or whatever?
Speaker 1: That One of the things that is beautiful about our
area is that everything seems to come to life in
the summertime. And some of that come to life is
also wild life. I remember many years ago being on
the radio and a bear had climbed a tree in
the city and they were trying to get the bear out,
and they kept I kept wondering where did the tranquilizer
dart that missed land? I was just always waiting for
someone to go fuck it never never happened, but I remember,
like they shot. We were getting a live play by
play from a guy who it was his house and
the bear was industry and then the poor bear's next
snapped when it fell. I think on that one, on
that one, but you know, are you seeing of course,
we've got this bizarre story out of the city of
Rochester night and you and I will have a nice
moment to listen to the person who observed this cat.
But it sounds to me like it was somebody's pet
that got out, not necessarily.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, you probably shouldn't have had it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the legal pet, I would say, yeah.
Speaker 8: And I'm sorry, but he said the tranquil or darted.
It just made me think of like naked Gun. Yes,
seen out of that movie.
Speaker 1: Right, and they're remaking that by the way with Liam Neeson.
I know, I'm not sure how I feel about these remakes.
The classics were classics? What are we doing? But yeah,
that tranquilideser de Heart was like I always wonder where
did that go? And you know that was the scene
that I thought of where it like hits you in
the day.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question.
Speaker 1: But the cat story, I would assume that the agencies
talk to each other. What is what is the scuttle
butt from the Rochester police on this?
Speaker 8: So my very limited understanding on this because, like you said,
I've been off. You know, somebody said they saw a
large cat, you know, called the police, the police showed up.
Speaker 4: I believe they said that one of the RPD officers
saw something.
Speaker 8: Okay, again what exactly they saw because originally the story
was it was a large bobcat. But again, I'm an
expert on animals. I didn't think bobcat's got that big.
Speaker 1: But I saw I'm sorry interrupt, I saw ring doorbell footage.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and with AI. Now we're trying to figure out.
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, okay, good oil is it not? You know,
because this had a long tail, like a tiger or something,
not a bobcat. Bobcat's tails are stubby.
Speaker 4: So this also happened in twenty twenty during COVID.
Speaker 8: I don't know if you remember, but somehow it got
out that animals were escaping from the zoo and running
through the streets and it ended up being totally false.
But so this happens every now and then, but it
could be true.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 8: They're not ruling anything out, and obviously from what RPD
put out there taking it serious. They said that they
can't quantify it yet. But if anybody sees it, you know,
to be careful, make sure you call nine one one,
back away, slowly, all those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, here is a person who said they did see it.
Speaker 3: I was just walking to the store, and all I
hear is people running and coming back this way like
oh oh, I'm like, what the hell? So I just
kept walking, mind of my business, and I keep coming
down the street and I just see some big shites
keeping the woud Oh.
Speaker 2: I just kept com home. I just left. I'm gone.
Speaker 3: I don't play them type games. I don't play with dogs, snakes,
I don't do the rattles. I don't do none of
that type of wildlife stuff.
Speaker 2: You understand. I don't do that.
Speaker 3: I just let it go, kepting finding my business. But
that thing like this, damn, I'm so no police came,
they squatted everything or got this thing cleared up all that.
They just got it blocked off. And I'm just around here.
I'm trying to see what it is. See if I
can get up head. Give me a lion or something,
Give me some tender meat. I ain't never had no lion.
Speaker 1: Wow, can you find anybody better? There was nobody better
to describe that whole thing. It doesn't It does sound
a little crazy, but if you do see wildlife, you know.
I'm always a maid and it happens more in the
rockies and things. But they warn you about Yellowstone. Stay
away from the bikes and stay away from this. And
every year you'll hear about some yahoo got out, goes hey,
give them a picture, and then the next thing they know,
they're thirty feet in the air, ass over tea kettle
because they got a bull's horn up their ass. And
that that's literally, I mean, these these animals are they're
wild beast. You're in their neighborhood, you know, and they're
just doing what they do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and if it's a mountain lion or a cougar,
whatever you want to call it, it's not.
Speaker 1: Uh well, if it's a cougar, was going for a
drink at Montconnery's. I wasn't worried.
Speaker 4: They're dangerous too.
Speaker 1: Oh god are they ever? Who look out? Oh god,
you don't want to get bit by one of those. No,
throw you in the back of the car and just
take advantage. I heard it for Alex. You gave us
some good insight, and you learned about the BBL and
why stink for Deputy Hurley in the one hundred Most
Dangerous Days and the potential cougar in downtown Rochester. I'm
Bill Moran. We'll see you on Monday. I woke up
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