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<v Speaker 1>Gather around children, Let's hear the sordid tale of Republican incompetence.

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<v Speaker 1>A Democrat elected to what should be a Republican state

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<v Speaker 1>Senate seat, and a turn on a dime conversion from

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat to Republican. This is the story of Senator Marie

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarado Gill. Now her district is the fourth state Senate district,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is kind of a new state Senate district.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a monstrously large state Senate district. It covers. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things for us to remember as Californians

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<v Speaker 1>is that our state senators in California represent an absurdly

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<v Speaker 1>large number of people. We have forty million Californians and

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<v Speaker 1>forty state senators, so each state senator represents a very

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<v Speaker 1>large number of people. And the state Senator Alvarado Gill

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<v Speaker 1>her district encompasses a huge portion of the California Nevada border,

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<v Speaker 1>just this enormous mountainous area with very few residents, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a good chunk of the North Valley, so the

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<v Speaker 1>northeastern portion of the Central Valley, the Central Sierra Nevada Mountains,

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<v Speaker 1>all of Death Valley, portions of Stanislaus Calveris, Amador, El Dorado,

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<v Speaker 1>Placer Alpine to Illumini, Mariposa, Madera, Mono, and Inyo Counties

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<v Speaker 1>a right. So it's this geographically monstrously large district, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is a district that should be Republican. Should be Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>This district voted for Trump fifty one to forty six

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty. This district voted for John Cox for

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<v Speaker 1>governor in twenty eighteen, fifty six to forty three. It

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<v Speaker 1>voted for Brian Dolly for governor most recently fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>to forty. This is a very conservative leaning district. In

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two, this seat was up for reelection. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this seat was largely created anew after the redistricting. We

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<v Speaker 1>have redistricting that happens every ten years. Per the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty census, this new district was sort of carved up.

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<v Speaker 1>But other Republicans had been holding a seat sort of

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<v Speaker 1>similar to this, with a similar kind of geography and

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<v Speaker 1>demographic So this is a Republican seat. And there aren't

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of safe Republican seats in the state Senate. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>there are maybe eight or nine out of forty that

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<v Speaker 1>could be safe Republican districts. So in twenty twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>they have a primary. Twenty twenty two, they have a

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<v Speaker 1>primary for this state Senate seat. And as you all know,

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<v Speaker 1>we in California have this ridiculous jungle primary system. So basically,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do the math this way. There are about it's

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<v Speaker 1>about a sixty forty split between Republicans and Democrats. Within

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<v Speaker 1>this district. Four Republicans ran, two Democrats ran. The Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>each averaged about fifteen percent of the vote, and the

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<v Speaker 1>two Democrats averaged twenty percent of the vote. So what

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<v Speaker 1>happens in a top two primary system. All the Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>were shut out. None of the Republicans made it to

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<v Speaker 1>the general election because the two Democrats each got more

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<v Speaker 1>votes than any individual Republican. This includes, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>George Radanovich, who is now running for the state Assembly seat.

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<v Speaker 1>He's running for Jim Patterson's old state Assembly seat. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is you know, I have I don't have much

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<v Speaker 1>bad to say about George Danovich at all, other than

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's disappointing how he couldn't I guess, get

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<v Speaker 1>the momentum going enough for this state Senate race to

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<v Speaker 1>get over that twenty percent hump. It was an enormous

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<v Speaker 1>embarrassment that Republicans couldn't get somebody in the top two.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a sixty to forty Republican to Democrat district.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically four Republicans ran. Nobody had the common sense to

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<v Speaker 1>just drop out so that somebody could kind of pull

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and win this thing. And this led to the

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous situation of two Democrats being the top two vote

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<v Speaker 1>getters in the twenty twenty two primary and Marie Alvarado

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<v Speaker 1>Gill winning this seat. A Democrat winning this very heavily

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<v Speaker 1>conservative seat, so state senators have four year long terms

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<v Speaker 1>of office. She was elected in twenty twenty two. We

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<v Speaker 1>are approaching twenty twenty four. She is probably looking ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>She is certainly looking ahead to the twenty twenty six elections.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of California politicians are starting this look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty twenty six. Right now. We're going to have

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<v Speaker 1>another governor's race in twenty twenty six. A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>our statewide offices will be up for reelection. Twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six will be an important year for many many Californians,

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<v Speaker 1>including all the half of the state senators that will

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<v Speaker 1>be up for reelection in twenty twenty six. So Marie

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<v Speaker 1>Alvarado Gill was a Democrat. She was a member of

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Caucus within the California State Legislature. She endorsed

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<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris, She co sponsored a resolution within the California

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<v Speaker 1>State Senate giving their appreciation to Joe Biden about what

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful and historic and consequential president he was. And

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, just a few days ago, she

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<v Speaker 1>announces she's leaving the Democrat Party. She's becoming a Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>The party has just moved too far to the left.

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<v Speaker 1>It's abandoned her, and she needs to she needs she

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<v Speaker 1>can't she can't tell all right this anymore. So she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to become a Republican and run for reelection as

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican in twenty twenty six. Now this has pleased

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much nobody. Obviously, the Democrats are upset. You ran

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<v Speaker 1>as a Democrat. We supported you as a Democrat. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing. You just endorsed Kamala Harris last week,

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<v Speaker 1>you just co authored this resolution talking about what a

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<v Speaker 1>historically significant president, wonderful president Joe Biden is. Are sort

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<v Speaker 1>of like, thanks Joe for dropping out from the California legislature.

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<v Speaker 1>You just endorsed these things, and now you're a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden. Similarly, the response from the Republican

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<v Speaker 1>Party has been muted. I think some Republicans have sort

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<v Speaker 1>of had to put some kind of a smiling face

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<v Speaker 1>on it, because, well, look, we don't have a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of state senators. She's just you know, increased the number

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<v Speaker 1>of state senators by twelve and a half percent. We

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<v Speaker 1>only had eight of the forty state senators before. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we have nine of the forty. So I think to

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<v Speaker 1>a certain extent, the Republican powers that be had to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of say, well, okay, well we welcome you in.

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<v Speaker 1>But other Republicans with a bit more freedom to speak

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<v Speaker 1>their minds, and I think the leading Republican on this

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<v Speaker 1>front has been Bill Asie, who's a state assembly member

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<v Speaker 1>from I think like Corona, California. Bill Assie comes out

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<v Speaker 1>and says, this is obvious, BS, this is obvious. Sheer nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not a Republican. She just talked about how she's

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<v Speaker 1>endorsing Kamala Harris for president. She is endorsing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she's giving this love note that she's helped co author

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<v Speaker 1>to Joe Biden. This is like a week before she

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<v Speaker 1>made her decision to switch parties. She's doing these things,

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<v Speaker 1>so Essale is pointing out like this is obvious nonsense.

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<v Speaker 1>She wants to get reelected in twenty twenty six. She

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<v Speaker 1>knows that the odds of the Republicans screwing this up

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<v Speaker 1>again in the twenty twenty sixth primary are are going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fairly low. Republicans have hopefully learned their lesson

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<v Speaker 1>from the disastrous debacle of again running four people who

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<v Speaker 1>all got about fifteen percent of the vote. So why

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, of course that's what she's doing. But again

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<v Speaker 1>it goes back to why are we in this situation

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<v Speaker 1>in the first place. We're in this situation in the

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<v Speaker 1>first place because the California Republican Party is inept. The

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<v Speaker 1>California Republican Party was so inept that they couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>at least one of these four people to drop out

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<v Speaker 1>of the race. And it's this thing where Democrats fall

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<v Speaker 1>in line. Democrats fall in line, Republicans don't, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the California and the reason that happens in California is

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<v Speaker 1>because the California Democratic Party actually has power. The California

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party can actually threaten people credibly. They can actually

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<v Speaker 1>say hey, if they have both carrots and sticks, they

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<v Speaker 1>can say, hey, if you run in the recall election

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<v Speaker 1>against Gavin Newsom, we will end your career. Or they

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<v Speaker 1>can say listen, in this race, it makes sense for

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<v Speaker 1>you to drop out. If you do, maybe there's something

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<v Speaker 1>else that we can kind of carve out for you,

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<v Speaker 1>some other position we can carve out for you. The

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<v Speaker 1>Democrat Party in California has the power to dangle a

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<v Speaker 1>carrot in front of you to tempt you for something good.

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<v Speaker 1>They have the power to menace you with a stick,

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<v Speaker 1>ruin your life, ruin your career if you don't do

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<v Speaker 1>what they want, and the California Republican Party has no

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<v Speaker 1>such power. We have nothing to entice people with because

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<v Speaker 1>our ability to get people jobs or get people elected

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<v Speaker 1>is fairly weak, and we have nothing to threaten people with.

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<v Speaker 1>As a result. You know you do this, you'll never

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<v Speaker 1>run for statewide office as a Republican. Again, well knows

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<v Speaker 1>statewide Republican's going to win anyway. Your threats don't matter

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<v Speaker 1>to me. What is the California GOP going to do

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<v Speaker 1>the California GOP, which by the way, has its own

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<v Speaker 1>problems left right and center. So that is the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of the problem, is the California GOP. We're still living

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<v Speaker 1>with the consequences of the most ineftly run primary campaign

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<v Speaker 1>humanly possible. That we had four people splitting sixty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the vote going up against two Democrats who split

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<v Speaker 1>forty percent of the vote. It was just an unbelievable

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<v Speaker 1>episode of incompetence leading to this vast majority Republican district

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<v Speaker 1>electing a Democrat because two Democrats were going head to

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<v Speaker 1>head against each other. So now we have to decide

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<v Speaker 1>what we're going to do. Are we going to allow

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<v Speaker 1>Marie Alvarado Guil to stay in office? And then Alvarado

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<v Speaker 1>Gill had an interview with Ashley Zavala, who's this big

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<v Speaker 1>time journalist who covers what goes on in Sacramento really

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most a great follow if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to follow anything that happens with Sacramento politics, Ashley Zavalla,

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<v Speaker 1>and Zavala asked her such point of questions that Alvarado

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<v Speaker 1>gil just stormed out of the interview. It's really it's

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<v Speaker 1>an unbelievably comedic episode. But yeah, this is the most

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<v Speaker 1>glaring example possible of a politician just kind of licking

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<v Speaker 1>their finger, holding it up to the wind and going

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<v Speaker 1>which way the wind blows to such an absurd degree

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<v Speaker 1>that she's actually changing her political party one week after

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<v Speaker 1>endorsing Kamala Harris. Wait, we return my theory about why

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<v Speaker 1>politicians become Republicans or Democrats in the first place. Next

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<v Speaker 1>on The John Girardi Show. Senator Marie Alvarado Gill the

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<v Speaker 1>California State Senator representing the fourth Senatorial District, which includes

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<v Speaker 1>pretty much a huge chunk of the central California Nevada border,

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<v Speaker 1>all the mountainous areas around there, plus some chunks of

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<v Speaker 1>the North Valley, chunks of Madera Mariposa to Alumni, Stanislaus County,

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<v Speaker 1>all of Death Valley too. It's a massive, massive geographical area.

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Marie Alvarado Gill has announced declared to all to

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<v Speaker 1>all in Sundry that she is now a Republican. She's

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<v Speaker 1>going to run as a Republican in twenty twenty six

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<v Speaker 1>for her re election for her state Senate seat. This

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<v Speaker 1>is because Republicans were so stupid that in the twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two Senate primary for this state Senate seat, they

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<v Speaker 1>ran four Republicans who each got about fifteen percent of

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<v Speaker 1>the vote, and the Democrats ran two Democrats who got

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<v Speaker 1>about twenty percent of the vote each. And in a

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<v Speaker 1>top two primary system, the two Democrats won, the two

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats got to advance, and the four Republicans didn't. This

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<v Speaker 1>in a seat that is about sixty forty Republican leaning.

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<v Speaker 1>So this sixty to forty Republican district, this very safe

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<v Speaker 1>Republican district, winds up electing having to choose on election

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<v Speaker 1>Day twenty twenty two between two Democrats, Marie Alvarado Gill

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<v Speaker 1>gets elected. Marie Alvarado Gill wants to get re elected,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she declares one week after signing this resolution

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<v Speaker 1>from the legislature about how wonderful and consequential a president

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden is and how and announcing that she was

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<v Speaker 1>endorsing Kamala Harris for president, she announces that she is

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<v Speaker 1>now a Republican. Oh, the Democratic Party has left her,

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<v Speaker 1>amazing how it left her right at the moment when

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<v Speaker 1>it became most politically expedient. And this gets me to

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<v Speaker 1>my sort of pet theory about politicians. I think most

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<v Speaker 1>elected politicians, most I'm not saying all, but most most

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<v Speaker 1>elected politicians don't have a very strong grounding for why

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<v Speaker 1>and blah blah blah blah blah, and she completely changes

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<v Speaker 1>week talking about what a wonderful president Joe Biden's been

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<v Speaker 1>and endorsing Kamala Harris to the very next week declaring

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<v Speaker 1>anything like a sincere Republican. Because I don't think she

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<v Speaker 1>you guys remember Michael Steel. He was the former head

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<v Speaker 1>former Republicans who are now anti Trumpers, and not just

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<v Speaker 1>pro Harris, but aggressively pro choice, aggressively just a complete

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<v Speaker 1>and he's now like an aggressive liberal cheerleader. And I

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<v Speaker 1>And he has so thoroughly flipped that he's posting memes

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<v Speaker 1>was he totally insincere the whole time? What was he doing?

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<v Speaker 1>political viewpoints to get themselves avenues towards power. He had

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<v Speaker 1>a certain avenue to power as a Republican in Maryland,

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<v Speaker 1>abandons all of his viewpoints so that he can talk

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<v Speaker 1>smack about Donald Trump, but not just talks back about

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, completely repudiate all this Republican stuff he used

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<v Speaker 1>politicians lately. You take the same guy and you have

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<v Speaker 1>him grow up in Clovis, California, or run for an

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<v Speaker 1>office in clothes California. Oh yeah, I'm a Republican. You

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<v Speaker 1>same office in Boston, Massachusetts. Oh yeah, I'm a Democrat.

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<v Speaker 1>I think people just kind of chameleon camouflage themselves towards

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<v Speaker 1>power when we return, when we return. Some commentary on

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<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit that was filed against Community Hospital for diverting

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<v Speaker 1>money from the Fresno downtown community to the Clovis downtown community. Allegedly.

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<v Speaker 1>This is next on the John Girardi Show. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit that's gotten some coverage in local media. A lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>that was filed against Community health system. And basically the

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<v Speaker 1>long and short of the lawsuit is that Community Health,

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<v Speaker 1>which receives medical money and part of the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>Community Hospital or Community Health, the reason why it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lots of medical patients and thereby receive medical funding. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit is arguing that Community Hospital was unlawfully diverting

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<v Speaker 1>sure about. This was diverting funding away from Community Hospital

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<v Speaker 1>Downtown to Community Hospital Clovis, that that was the focus

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<v Speaker 1>of what Community was trying to do, was to make

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<v Speaker 1>the community hospital in Clovis, which has fewer medical patients

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<v Speaker 1>more private insurance patients, is therefore more profitable to divert

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<v Speaker 1>more and more funding to that, and that this was

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<v Speaker 1>done on lawfully or inequitably. Now, a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>I want to note about this lawsuit. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to judge a book by its cover. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to judge based on appearance. I understand in all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you should look at this stuff on the merits,

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<v Speaker 1>get it. However, the group filing this lawsuit is none

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<v Speaker 1>other than Fresno Building Healthy Communities, under the leadership of

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<v Speaker 1>an old favorite on this show, Sandra Celadon. Yes, that's right, Sandra,

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<v Speaker 1>burn it all down Celadon. So Presno Building Healthy Communities

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<v Speaker 1>is this nonprofit left wing activist group that basically exists

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<v Speaker 1>to hang around city hall advocate for some altruistic liberal cause.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's always with a handout. It's always well, you

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<v Speaker 1>a contract to do it. Oh, we were gonna help

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<v Speaker 1>the city with contact tracing during COVID. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the It was either them or Barriosunidos

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<v Speaker 1>cause but also get money. They Presno Building Healthy Communities.

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<v Speaker 1>This nonprofit are suing Community Health System for this alleged

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<v Speaker 1>inequity of not diverting enough resources to Community Hospital Downtown,

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<v Speaker 1>diverting too much to Community Hospital in Clovis, so Presno

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<v Speaker 1>Building Healthy Communities and Cultiva la Salute this is the

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<v Speaker 1>other nonprofit that they are the two plaintiffs in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>The lawsuit claims that Community Health funneled. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if they are they funneling or just moving or allocating

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<v Speaker 1>whatever billion dollars to the Clovis facility instead of providing

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<v Speaker 1>better staffing and facility upgrades at Community Regional Medical Center.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the write up by Edward Smith in GV wire, which,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, Edward Smith or anyone from gv wire,

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys are reading this, if you are writing

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<v Speaker 1>about a lawsuit or a legal a decision that's issued

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<v Speaker 1>by a judge, a complaint that was filed in a lawsuit,

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<v Speaker 1>a charging document, and a criminal prosecution, provide the link

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<v Speaker 1>to the pdf. Okay, don't just write a story about it.

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<v Speaker 1>If your post, you're publishing it online, provide a link

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<v Speaker 1>to the pdf. I hate. There's nothing I hate more.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not just GV wire that does this, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, or the Fresno b or whoever, like major

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<v Speaker 1>to the judge's decision so that you can read it yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>which is insane, asinine, and for any lawyer who's trying

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<v Speaker 1>some other piece that final actually links to it. So

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<v Speaker 1>GB wire, next time you talk about any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit anything, provide the link to the PDF. Hopefully someone listens. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually pulled up the PDF of the complaint and

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<v Speaker 1>I won't say I read every single word, but I

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<v Speaker 1>read most of it. The thing that I immediately was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to determine was this issue called standing. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>standing is this kind of bedrock principle of American law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's basically, why are you in this courtroom? What right

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<v Speaker 1>do you have to file this lawsuit? Why are you

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<v Speaker 1>the person filing this lawsuit? Why is it your business?

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<v Speaker 1>I asked that about Sandra Celadon and her building presno

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<v Speaker 1>way or another? What business is it of hers? How

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<v Speaker 1>is she harmed by this? Because generally, for standing, you

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<v Speaker 1>always give for this is, Okay, if someone crashes a

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<v Speaker 1>my buddy, Agent Squire's intrepid producer of the John Girardi Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I would feel bad for him. I'd feel upset on

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<v Speaker 1>his behalf. I'd be angry at the guy who negligently

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<v Speaker 1>actually suffered the harm. Okay, if I try to file

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit, I am suing this man for negligence causing damage,

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<v Speaker 1>for crashing an Agent Squire's house, and the judge would

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<v Speaker 1>ask me why are you here? Why are you suing?

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<v Speaker 1>What harm did you suffer? Its all, I was really

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<v Speaker 1>upset your honor. Well, that doesn't count, so I immediately asked,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this, well, what standing does Fresno Building Healthy

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<v Speaker 1>communities have to sue Community Hospital for its decisions of

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<v Speaker 1>Are at federal law, and for individual kinds of claims,

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<v Speaker 1>it easy to sue. Basically, California seems to have a

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that's preposterous. And from the complaint itself,

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<v Speaker 1>it's saying, well, people who work for Presno building healthy communities,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them live in South Fresno and they

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<v Speaker 1>they've been harmed by not having downtown community be as

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<v Speaker 1>nice a hospital as Clovis community, which again is very vague,

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<v Speaker 1>it's very non specific, like like okay, well, what happened?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have a medical event that was harmed because

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<v Speaker 1>the facilities at Fresno Community are not as nice. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't mention anything. The other thing that and this

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<v Speaker 1>is another aspect of this that I find obnoxious. This

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<v Speaker 1>is another aspect of how these nonprofits behave that I

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<v Speaker 1>find obnoxious. Is you know who died and made you

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<v Speaker 1>the representative for everyone who lives in South Fresno, basically

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno building healthy communities, saying well, we and the people

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<v Speaker 1>whom we represent, the clients whom we serve that we

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<v Speaker 1>help to try to get healthcare, have been adversely impacted

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<v Speaker 1>by the allocation of money away from downtown community towards

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<v Speaker 1>Clovis community. So this is a thing called third party standing.

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<v Speaker 1>Third party standing is it's kind of what the name implies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not the primary person harmed, but you have standing

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<v Speaker 1>to sue on behalf of this group of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are harmed. Ordinarily, though, if you're a third party, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have the right to sue on behalf of someone else. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't sue on behalf of agent Squires. When someone

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<v Speaker 1>crashes a car into his house, Agent Squires has to sue. Now, sometimes, though,

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<v Speaker 1>you can have third party standing if you have close

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<v Speaker 1>ties to a group of people, that group of people

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<v Speaker 1>are prevented from filing a lawsuit in some way, shape

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<v Speaker 1>or form. So again, you have to have some close connection,

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<v Speaker 1>and the people on whose behalf you're trying to sue

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<v Speaker 1>have to be sort of prevented in some way from

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<v Speaker 1>filing the lawsuit themselves. I guess I'm sort of not

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<v Speaker 1>thinking that the people whom Fresno Building Healthy Communities purports

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<v Speaker 1>to represent, why couldn't some of them be plaintiffs? Seems

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<v Speaker 1>ridiculous to me, you know, why can't Okay, Marie Alvarez,

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<v Speaker 1>a resident of Tower District in Fresno, is suing because

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<v Speaker 1>Marie Alvarez and this group of this class of former

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<v Speaker 1>patients who used to who received care at Fresno Community

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<v Speaker 1>between this in this date, who receive substandard care, they

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<v Speaker 1>are all suing for this misallocation of medical funds. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is a thing beyond just the scope of this

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit and the specific question of third party standing. Does

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno Building Healthy Communities actually have the standing legally to

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<v Speaker 1>sue on behalf of people who live in South Fresno

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<v Speaker 1>beyond just the legal standing question. I feel like they

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<v Speaker 1>always present themselves as like the official spokespersons of South Fresno,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're not. It's this sort of act they put on, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the constituency they represent. No, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, you know, Miguel Arius represents the interests of

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<v Speaker 1>that group of people, Okay, that's fair. He was duly

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<v Speaker 1>elected by the people of whatever his at, whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>boundaries of his city council district are. Or Analisa Perea

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<v Speaker 1>who represents kind of tower district area. You want to

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<v Speaker 1>say she represents that group of people, Okay, she was

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<v Speaker 1>elected to represent that group of people. But don't look

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<v Speaker 1>at me with a straight face and tell me, oh ah, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Fresno building healthy communities. We're the true representatives of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>Get out of here when we return the Belogney sandwich

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<v Speaker 1>of Jordan Chiles, the American gymnast being forced or told

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<v Speaker 1>to return her bronze medal next on The John Girardi Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a fun conversation earlier with Ck of Our iHeartMedia

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<v Speaker 1>ck on Sports, which is on Fox Sports thirteen forty

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<v Speaker 1>k is of Ck and Carmen on b ninety five.

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<v Speaker 1>He's one of the main guys for our coverage via

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<v Speaker 1>iHeart of Fresno State Sports, Fresno State Football. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he'll be doing pregame and postgame stuff for Frisno State

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<v Speaker 1>football this year. And he was asking me about Jordan Chiles. So,

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Chiles is the Olympic gymnast and in the contest

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<v Speaker 1>for the floor exercise, Jordan Chiles did a routine. She

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<v Speaker 1>was given a certain score. The American coaches appealed that score,

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<v Speaker 1>Giles was given a better score. Chiles goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>win the bronze medal days later. A week later, the

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<v Speaker 1>folks from the Olympics say, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>we have I don't know what for an accent they

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<v Speaker 1>would have. We have screwed up this going. And they say, no, America,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't file your appeal for the score quickly enough.

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<v Speaker 1>It was only supposed to be within like I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was sixty seconds, and you took sixty seven seconds,

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<v Speaker 1>like a matter of mere seconds. You were too late.

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<v Speaker 1>So we have to take back her school. And she's

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<v Speaker 1>not supposed to get the bronze medal. This Romanian girl

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<v Speaker 1>is supposed to. So now the whole thing is tied

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<v Speaker 1>up in litigation with this International Tribunal for Sport. So

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say, hey, Jordan Chiles, just hold on

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<v Speaker 1>to your bronze medal. They can't send an army to

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<v Speaker 1>take it from you. That'll do it, John Girlready show

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<v Speaker 1>see you next time on Power Talk
