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Speaker 3: Hello Christian, Welcome to the show. Hello, thank you, thank
Speaker 3: you for coming on today. And you're calling from California.
Speaker 1: Yes, calling from California, Southern California.
Speaker 3: Great stuff. Now, Christian, you have some experiences to share
Speaker 3: with us. Would you like style a beginning please, sir?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to try to do this in order
Speaker 1: of from my youth to present time, and that way
Speaker 1: I won't hopefully leave anything out. It'll just kind of
Speaker 1: flow from how things went, you know, from one stage
Speaker 1: to the next. So as a child. You know, I
Speaker 1: came from a pretty pretty poor family. My parents were,
Speaker 1: you know, in the States, what you consider like hippies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm in my fifties, so this was probably back in
Speaker 1: the sixties, and you know, there was different types of
Speaker 1: hippies at that time. There was the heavy religious type
Speaker 1: and then there was the atheists. And my parents were
Speaker 1: the atheists, and so they had we had no religion
Speaker 1: growing up. No God, no spirits, no no ghosts, no aliens,
Speaker 1: no anything. They they didn't believe in anything. And so
Speaker 1: that trickled down to me and just was you know,
Speaker 1: my my lifestyle as well, and so I didn't experience
Speaker 1: any of these things that we're going to be talking about.
Speaker 1: So things that would happen, I didn't really understand what
Speaker 1: they meant. So, you know, growing up and being a child,
Speaker 1: at night, I would have what I would call now
Speaker 1: maybe like night terrors, fear waking up and I feel
Speaker 1: like there was something maybe in the room with me,
Speaker 1: and you know, my parents just took it as just
Speaker 1: me just being a silly kid. So this continued and
Speaker 1: never really understanding what it was. My personality was always
Speaker 1: my parents would make jokes that I had this sort
Speaker 1: of a sense of urgency to my personality. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: just it never really quite made sense. I remember getting
Speaker 1: up at night and trying to sleep in my parents' bedroom,
Speaker 1: and you know, they wouldn't want me to bother them,
Speaker 1: so I'd sleep in the hallway. And I never really
Speaker 1: understood what it was that was scaring me so intensely
Speaker 1: because it started at one point and I never had
Speaker 1: a problem before, and then it faded out at one point.
Speaker 1: So you know, there's that I you know, went along
Speaker 1: with my life, you know, grew up, got married, had
Speaker 1: a child, and I had two or three experiences that
Speaker 1: started changing things. I had a friend that passed away.
Speaker 1: He was a sleeved tattoos tattooed on both arms, I'll
Speaker 1: explain to some minutes, and he had passed away, and
Speaker 1: since it was my first time experiencing death like that,
Speaker 1: I didn't go to his funeral. And I think it
Speaker 1: was probably two or three months or somewhere, maybe two
Speaker 1: or three weeks after he had passed away. I had
Speaker 1: had a dream and I don't really I'm calling it
Speaker 1: a dream, but I don't know if it was really
Speaker 1: a dream where I'm in the dark and I see
Speaker 1: this image in front of me, and something's telling me
Speaker 1: that it's that it's him, And I have this vision
Speaker 1: of these tattoos and the image just coming closer to me,
Speaker 1: and I see this arm fling up in the air
Speaker 1: and take a swing at me, and I Jolton, and
Speaker 1: I wake up from you know, the dreams, and I
Speaker 1: knew it was him, and I took it as him
Speaker 1: being disappointed in me because I didn't go to his funeral,
Speaker 1: and so from me coming from a non religious background,
Speaker 1: this was just the beginning of something sort of like
Speaker 1: you know, triggering in me, you know. And so a
Speaker 1: year later, I actually had another friend pass away, and
Speaker 1: this was a buddy of mine's brother, and I did
Speaker 1: go to the funeral, and a buddy of mine that
Speaker 1: was also friend of us. He went to the funeral
Speaker 1: and it was very emotional, and we left and I
Speaker 1: had gone home, and for that next few weeks, I
Speaker 1: was commuting to the San Diego area from where I
Speaker 1: lived to work, and so it took almost a couple
Speaker 1: hours to get to work and then you know, a
Speaker 1: couple hours get home. So I had a lot of
Speaker 1: time to think, and I kept having these really off
Speaker 1: the wall thoughts about my buddy where I could almost
Speaker 1: feel like this not telepathy, but this strange communication type thing,
Speaker 1: and it was almost leading me to some things where
Speaker 1: I went and visited some old friends of his that
Speaker 1: I really wasn't even acquainted with. And then one evening,
Speaker 1: when I was leaving work, I heard I can't say
Speaker 1: it was telepathy, but just something form of communication of
Speaker 1: someone saying of him saying goodbye, and I kind of
Speaker 1: jolted to myself and said out loud, okay, goodbye, and
Speaker 1: the feelings left and more are gone. I didn't have
Speaker 1: any more of experiences with that. So again I'm having
Speaker 1: something that's sort of leading me with this spirituality thing
Speaker 1: that I really wasn't associated with my life. It was
Speaker 1: pointing towards something, you know, that I you know, that
Speaker 1: I didn't grow up with. Again, I had a third friend,
Speaker 1: which who was my best friend, who had passed away
Speaker 1: probably like another year or so after this, and this was,
Speaker 1: you know, this was my best friend that I had
Speaker 1: grown up with, and I didn't even know that he
Speaker 1: had passed away for the first year, but we had
Speaker 1: had a falling out and we hadn't been speaking. And
Speaker 1: then I decided I want to get a hold of him,
Speaker 1: and I was having trouble getting ahold of him. So
Speaker 1: I called his ex girlfriend and she had said to
Speaker 1: me that she was having trouble getting ahold of him
Speaker 1: as well, and so I said to her, well, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe we should try to get this figured out and
Speaker 1: see if we can, you know, figure out where he is,
Speaker 1: if he moved, or what's going on. So I put
Speaker 1: my feelers out and I started doing my homework a
Speaker 1: little bit. Come to find out that he had passed away.
Speaker 1: And as soon as we had both found that out,
Speaker 1: you know, me and his ex girlfriend, within days, I
Speaker 1: started having these strange experiences. My Ben's ex wife would
Speaker 1: come to visit me and our kid, and she was
Speaker 1: telling me that she was seeing some form of like
Speaker 1: shadow figures in my kitchen, and when I would wash
Speaker 1: the dishes when I'd come up from work, I always
Speaker 1: felt like there was somebody standing behind me, that feeling
Speaker 1: that you get when there's someone there, even though you
Speaker 1: don't know they're there. And it just kept happening for weeks,
Speaker 1: and my kid was having strange dreams about my buddy
Speaker 1: and was acting very emotional about it. My buddy's ex
Speaker 1: girlfriend had called me and said that toys like that
Speaker 1: she had on her mantle that didn't even have batteries
Speaker 1: in them were going off and moving and it was
Speaker 1: scaring her. She was feeling very uncomfortable. One night, I
Speaker 1: had fallen asleep on the couch after work, and in
Speaker 1: my kitchen, i'm a refrigerator. I have pictures all over
Speaker 1: it of friends and familying in different events and things,
Speaker 1: and I'm laying on the ca How can I hear this?
Speaker 1: Wrap this sounds and I think, what the heck can
Speaker 1: I say out loud? I don't want to deal with
Speaker 1: this right now? And I don't even know why I
Speaker 1: said that. And I get up and I go in
Speaker 1: the kitchen, and laying on the floor is a picture
Speaker 1: of my ex wife. It's the only thing that has
Speaker 1: fallen off the refrigerator. And I don't even want to
Speaker 1: use the words fall off because it was like ripped off.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just smacked into the wall. So that
Speaker 1: kind of tripped me out a little bit. And then
Speaker 1: two or three maybe four days after that, once again,
Speaker 1: I'm washing the dishes, my kids in the living room
Speaker 1: watching television, and I'm wearing a tank top, and I'm
Speaker 1: getting this feeling again that there's someone behind me, and
Speaker 1: I feel on the shoulder part of my tank top,
Speaker 1: I feel something. Someone lifts the shoulder and tug on
Speaker 1: my shirt for reached me out man. I turned a
Speaker 1: and yelled at my kids. Somebody just touched me. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was obvious, just bizarre, and you know, I was
Speaker 1: putting the pieces to get together of what I thought
Speaker 1: it was, you know, with my friend passing away and
Speaker 1: all that. After that, everything stopped, it didn't happen anymore.
Speaker 1: And then you know, once again, you know, that was
Speaker 1: so extreme. I was having these feelings of geez, you know,
Speaker 1: there is something much more going on out there, much larger,
Speaker 1: like this is just so obvious, and all the things
Speaker 1: that I had been taught going up just seemed long
Speaker 1: like it would just you know, with my family and whatnot,
Speaker 1: they just sort of like miss missed the road on
Speaker 1: the bigger picture. So with those three things happening, you know,
Speaker 1: nothing else, you know, ever happened with you know, deaths
Speaker 1: or anything like that. But it kind of put me
Speaker 1: in a state of mind where I started looking into
Speaker 1: people that had experienced near death experiences and I started
Speaker 1: watching videos on it, stuff going on the Internet, and
Speaker 1: just just you know, out of curiosity and wanting to
Speaker 1: learn more, and that coincidentally, I guess it's coincidentally. I
Speaker 1: started bumping into videos about UFOs and aliens and different
Speaker 1: things like that, and it was something that I'd never
Speaker 1: really put any thought or time into. You know. There
Speaker 1: was stuff about what people called the graves and I
Speaker 1: had never even heard that word before. I'd never even
Speaker 1: had even thought of anything of that that there was
Speaker 1: actually a title put to what these characters were, and
Speaker 1: I was just really intrigued. I started watching lots of
Speaker 1: videos and trying to gain information on it and learn
Speaker 1: different things I could about it. So while I'm on
Speaker 1: that path, one day, I'm sitting at home alone and
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, you know, I haven't meditated in
Speaker 1: a long time. You know, we used to do it
Speaker 1: once in a great while. And there was nobody home.
Speaker 1: I was home alone. So I sat down on the
Speaker 1: living room floor and I got myself relaxed, and I
Speaker 1: started meditating a little bit. And I said to myself,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm looking into all these subjects and whatnot.
Speaker 1: It's something kind of new to me. If there is
Speaker 1: anybody out there. I really would I really want to
Speaker 1: see a UFO. I really would like to experience something
Speaker 1: like that. And then, you know, I just finished meditating
Speaker 1: and went on with my day. I think about three
Speaker 1: or four days later, I'm taking my dog for a
Speaker 1: walk like I always did, and I'm walking and I
Speaker 1: look up in the sky and I see frozen. It
Speaker 1: looked like frozen in time, like a painting. There's this
Speaker 1: object just sitting there, frozen, and I'm looking and I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: what am I looking at here? So I had brought
Speaker 1: my binoculars I would keep them with me, and I
Speaker 1: look up at this thing and it's like, I don't
Speaker 1: know how I can explain this. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've ever seen the show Star Trek, the old Star Trek,
Speaker 1: there's the large ships that you know that you always
Speaker 1: see the Star Trek show with the people flying in
Speaker 1: and then they had these little craft that they would
Speaker 1: use to go to the planet. And it was this
Speaker 1: boxy looking, world generic looking ship. That's what this thing
Speaker 1: looked like. It looked like a white shoe box tilted
Speaker 1: in the sky, and it just blew my mind. I
Speaker 1: couldn't believe what I was looking at and I knew
Speaker 1: that's what it was. I mean, it was obvious. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm looking at it with the binoculars. So anyways,
Speaker 1: my neck started getting kind of stiff, and so I
Speaker 1: looked down just for a foot second to stretch my
Speaker 1: neck out, and I looked back up and if it
Speaker 1: was gone, nothing there. So now this just leads one
Speaker 1: thing to another. After that, I was just my mind
Speaker 1: was just blown away. In between what I had experienced
Speaker 1: with my friends and the near death stuff and looking
Speaker 1: into the UFOs and having this experience, I just went
Speaker 1: off the rails, like just completely into it. I started
Speaker 1: watching reading, you know, David Jacobs's books. I looked into
Speaker 1: Bob Lazare, but Hopkins, all all of them. I did
Speaker 1: more reading that I've ever had done in my life.
Speaker 1: And why I was day and night, you know, being
Speaker 1: a construction worker. I had my EarPods on. I would
Speaker 1: listen to stuff while I was at work. I was
Speaker 1: probably driving my family crazy. I started looking into you know,
Speaker 1: Bigfoot crop circles, ancient Aliens, pyramids, and it was things
Speaker 1: that other people had been in the head, you know,
Speaker 1: had known about, but because of my upbringing, I was
Speaker 1: just completely ignorant to the things, like I almost felt
Speaker 1: stupid that I had missed all this, you know, the
Speaker 1: story of Barney and Betty and Travis Walton. I knew
Speaker 1: nothing of it. I even had mentioned it to my
Speaker 1: family and they're like, ass, it's all fake. So as
Speaker 1: I'm experiencing all these things and becoming a more in
Speaker 1: tune with myself and the subjects, other things that had
Speaker 1: happened in the past started making more sense, like dreams
Speaker 1: and things that I just I'd always go back to them,
Speaker 1: wondering how that was weird, you know, but never understanding why,
Speaker 1: you know what it was, you know, I don't. I
Speaker 1: guess I call them dreams, but I don't even know
Speaker 1: if that's even what they were. But I'll tell you
Speaker 1: a few of them that I had had and I
Speaker 1: carried with me all these years. So one of them
Speaker 1: was a dream that I had had, and I never
Speaker 1: understood what it meant. What I thought it was me undressed,
Speaker 1: looking standing in a corner of a room and I'm
Speaker 1: out of my body, trying to hold my body up
Speaker 1: like I'm on the ground with my hands on my sighs.
Speaker 1: That's how I saw it. But then once I started
Speaker 1: understanding all these things. I thought, oh my god, no,
Speaker 1: that's not what this dream was. This is my body
Speaker 1: lying on a table with no clothes on in this white,
Speaker 1: white room, and I'm floating above the body with my
Speaker 1: hands on the sighs, trying to get back into my body,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense to you, And I thought, my god, yes,
Speaker 1: that is exactly what that is. I can see the
Speaker 1: room is kind of a well lit white white and
Speaker 1: a little bit of a mistiness to it, like a
Speaker 1: dampness to it. I can't see anybody around me, but
Speaker 1: I feel that there's a presence. And you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously people can't float above their bodies, so I I'm assuming,
Speaker 1: you know, with what I gathered, mollness, that I'm in
Speaker 1: like a spirit form in some way or something. So
Speaker 1: you know that, you know, that started making sense to me.
Speaker 1: A dream that I had when I was just a kid.
Speaker 1: I remember me and my my dad falling asleep on
Speaker 1: the couch late at night one night, and us waking
Speaker 1: up and having to go to bed, and me getting
Speaker 1: up and saying to my dad as we're walking into
Speaker 1: the kitchen to get like a glass of water or something.
Speaker 1: My dad while we were sleeping. I left. I left
Speaker 1: my body and he's like, what I said, when we
Speaker 1: were sleeping, I left my body, and he's just like,
Speaker 1: that's nice. Let's go to bed, and just you know
Speaker 1: that it just was forgotten about. I always carried it
Speaker 1: along with me, but he didn't remember. And then another one,
Speaker 1: another one that a little bit more significant that I
Speaker 1: really didn't understand until just recently. I had had a dream,
Speaker 1: flash vision, whatever you want to call it. Where I'm looking.
Speaker 1: This is hard to hard for probably someone, for anybody
Speaker 1: to envision this. I'm looking downwards and I see what
Speaker 1: is really brownish red looking dirt, and I'm moving closer
Speaker 1: to it, and I'm not completely understanding what this is.
Speaker 1: And I can see what I thought were people lying
Speaker 1: on a beach around me. They looked like they were
Speaker 1: lying in this dirt. And then something like encloses, like
Speaker 1: a line going across the dirt, and I thought it
Speaker 1: was a wave of water. So what I figured out
Speaker 1: what this all was is me lying face down on
Speaker 1: a table looking downward. The craft has some type of
Speaker 1: invisibility ability, like where you can see through it, and
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it coming down landing in this cave and
Speaker 1: what I thought were people lying on a beach or
Speaker 1: other people lying sitting laying on tables unconscious, and what
Speaker 1: I thought was a wave. Is the craft, you know,
Speaker 1: ALIGNE went across, you know, it reappearing and turning into
Speaker 1: a solid object, if that makes sense. And once it
Speaker 1: turns into a solid object, the whole room turns white,
Speaker 1: like the white white with these like beams going in
Speaker 1: a circle around me, and I can see myself getting
Speaker 1: up and turning around, getting off the table, and then bam,
Speaker 1: something changes. And when I look back at the table,
Speaker 1: I see myself on the table, but I'm not on
Speaker 1: the table, but I'm looking back at myself, and I'm
Speaker 1: now I'm like nine feet tall, like I'm looking down
Speaker 1: on myself, and I can see myself drift away from
Speaker 1: the table. I see the other people. I can see
Speaker 1: somebody I don't know what you know, I can't tell
Speaker 1: their features. I can see someone almost sitting at like
Speaker 1: a desk or something looking up at me. And then
Speaker 1: I just sort of fall out of the craft. And
Speaker 1: now I'm in the cave and I can see around
Speaker 1: me like this large opening of this real red dirt,
Speaker 1: this cave, and I can see tunnels, and it looks
Speaker 1: like they have like these metal platform things on the
Speaker 1: ground that you can walk on, so, you know, so
Speaker 1: you don't get dirt on you. And I can see
Speaker 1: like a railing, and there's three tunnel openings and it
Speaker 1: gets dark, you know, going into these tunnels. I'm standing
Speaker 1: there or floating there or whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 1: and I see two figures coming towards me, and it's
Speaker 1: a girl with some young men. And the girl is
Speaker 1: completely nude. Her skin is chalk chalky white. She's maybe
Speaker 1: five and a half feet or so. I'm not very tall,
Speaker 1: and she walks right basically like right through me, and
Speaker 1: I turn and look behind me, and I can see
Speaker 1: her from the back and the person walking with her,
Speaker 1: and I see everything around me, and then bloosh, it's over.
Speaker 1: I wake up and I'm in my room looking around completely,
Speaker 1: I mean, just off the wall. But now that I
Speaker 1: understand things more, it makes makes sense. So then another
Speaker 1: one that I had had is I'm standing there. My
Speaker 1: surroundings seem very like a war almost typesetting, where things
Speaker 1: are leveled to the ground and it looks, gosh, I
Speaker 1: don't know just what you see like in movies like
Speaker 1: in you know, type of war type movies. And I
Speaker 1: look up at the sky and the sky looks like
Speaker 1: it's on fire. It's red. The whole sky is a
Speaker 1: clouds and they're blood red like a flame. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking up and I see this giant craft move across
Speaker 1: the sky in front of me, going from left to right,
Speaker 1: and it looks like if you took an aircraft carrier
Speaker 1: that you see in the ocean and flipped it upside
Speaker 1: down and made it about six times larger, longer, and wider,
Speaker 1: and it's just moving across the sky. Boom, Dream's over.
Speaker 1: Then another one I had where I'm sitting and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at a very large screen, almost like almost a
Speaker 1: TV screen, Like I'm sitting there watching something, and I
Speaker 1: see behind the screen it's dark out like nighttime. I
Speaker 1: see this giant wave, ocean waves that's coming coming, and
Speaker 1: it's coming, and it crashes over the screen and comes
Speaker 1: and crashes over me and whoever's there. The Dream's over.
Speaker 1: Then My final one that relates to all this stuff
Speaker 1: is I'm the dream starts and I'm at my home.
Speaker 1: I'm outside once again. It's nighttime, and I'm standing there
Speaker 1: and I'm looking to the sky and I see this individual.
Speaker 1: He looks like me, but he's green. He has golden
Speaker 1: like God, how will I explain this? Almost like an angel,
Speaker 1: He's got these giant golden wings, he's floating, he's green.
Speaker 1: His arms are patched out like in the wings, and
Speaker 1: in each of the golden wings, he has these green emeralds.
Speaker 1: And he's looking at me and he almost has like
Speaker 1: a disappointed look on his face, and he is I mean,
Speaker 1: at least he looks like he's me. And then I
Speaker 1: go to my knees and I start crying and I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this individual and I'm calling out to my
Speaker 1: ex wife saying, you know, you've got to come, You've
Speaker 1: got to come see this. And I'm getting more and
Speaker 1: more emotional, and then click, it's over. The dream's over. So,
Speaker 1: you know, those things just sort of had an effect
Speaker 1: on me. Originally, when I had the dreams, I thought
Speaker 1: they were nothing, but it just all felt like it
Speaker 1: was all like leading, leading towards something. You know, it
Speaker 1: makes more sense now that I see it from a
Speaker 1: different perspective. So during this time and moving on forward,
Speaker 1: I had other UFO experiences other than that one, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you know those I'll just kind of put
Speaker 1: them all together in one story. Multiple times, when I
Speaker 1: first started having the experiences, in the morning, I would
Speaker 1: go check on my ex wife's pets because she'd be
Speaker 1: at work, and I would always be my binoculars with me.
Speaker 1: Ever since I had that one experience, I'd always just
Speaker 1: keep them around. I keep them in the car or
Speaker 1: just keep them available. And I'm in her backyard and
Speaker 1: I look in the sky and I see this early
Speaker 1: in the morning. I see this. It looks like an egg,
Speaker 1: but it's made out of metal floating in the sky.
Speaker 1: I grabbed my binoculars. I'm looking at that, at it,
Speaker 1: and this thing is it's still. That's way way up
Speaker 1: their stillson, you know, I mean, it's not moving. And
Speaker 1: then it just starts real slowly glank like at a
Speaker 1: forty five degree angle going up. It starts tumbling like
Speaker 1: it's slowly rotating. And I'm thinking, my God, like other
Speaker 1: people have got to see this, but you know who
Speaker 1: knows if they did. So I sit there and my
Speaker 1: next hurting, I try to like lay on the ground
Speaker 1: almost to try to sit there and watch it, and
Speaker 1: it just keeps going. It keeps tumbling and then it
Speaker 1: kind of goes up up into the clouds a little bit,
Speaker 1: and then I see a flash of red. Wow, wow,
Speaker 1: the big flash, and then posts gone. I started every
Speaker 1: so often seeing what I called orbs. And it's hard
Speaker 1: to explain because I use the word orbs. But there
Speaker 1: was like two tights. There was what people call orbs
Speaker 1: that I would say were like like spiritual white little
Speaker 1: miniature clouds besides of like a pool table ball floating
Speaker 1: through the sky. And their shapes would change sometimes it
Speaker 1: was almost they were they had intelligence behind them, like
Speaker 1: they could communicate. I'd be watching them through my binoculars
Speaker 1: and they could make themselves look like a square. They
Speaker 1: could kind of move up and down. I had one
Speaker 1: one time that it had stretched itself into like two
Speaker 1: eggs but attached in the middle and was spinning in
Speaker 1: the sky. And it just sat there, spinning, and I
Speaker 1: kept looking at it in the binoculars and I put
Speaker 1: my head down because my neck would hurt, and then
Speaker 1: look back up. Jesus, things just it's not leaving, it's
Speaker 1: just staying there. And then what also what I would
Speaker 1: call orbs, but they weren't orbs. I just don't know
Speaker 1: what else to call them. These things that were they
Speaker 1: were round and they produced light, but they were not
Speaker 1: spiritual looking things. They were like metal. They're like a
Speaker 1: metal ball, and they would come in different colors sometimes,
Speaker 1: and I could see them, you know, shooting across they
Speaker 1: or if I was looking at something, I could see
Speaker 1: them blast across the sky. Well, one time, when I
Speaker 1: was at work, this is just shortly after I started
Speaker 1: seeing these things, I was working outside and I saw
Speaker 1: one of these, you know, orb looking I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe they're ghosts or something that looking things, And it
Speaker 1: was massive, and I'm looking at that and I think,
Speaker 1: is that is that a plastic bag that is drifting
Speaker 1: in the wind. I mean, it's got it's huge. I
Speaker 1: mean it's just a freaking trash bag, like a big one.
Speaker 1: And this thing is stretching like a like a thick
Speaker 1: cloud moving and it's just staying there like way up
Speaker 1: in the sky, you know, but it's staying with me.
Speaker 1: And I just thought, God, this is this has got
Speaker 1: to mean something, you know, this is just really too
Speaker 1: this is not normal, you know, so you know, I
Speaker 1: just sort of made a note of it. It eventually
Speaker 1: just drifted away, and another night this was the big one.
Speaker 1: Once again. I go to my ex wife's house. Was
Speaker 1: at night, I think she once again was out of town,
Speaker 1: and I go in the backyard. I was checking on
Speaker 1: the animals. It was pure blackout, dark night time, and
Speaker 1: I look in the sky and I see way way
Speaker 1: of like you know, like you're looking into the stars.
Speaker 1: I see this looks like a flame and it's getting closer.
Speaker 1: It's coming at like a downward forty five degree angle
Speaker 1: and it's like this fireball. And I think to myself, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's a meteor or you know, it's something like that.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know what to think it is.
Speaker 1: It's coming down, but then it looks like it's the
Speaker 1: forty five degree angle. It's turning. It's almost like it's
Speaker 1: trying to level out, and I think, oh man, this
Speaker 1: is something. I got to get my binocular So I
Speaker 1: run to the car. I grabbed the binoculars. I come
Speaker 1: back and I throw the binoculars up to look and
Speaker 1: it's whatever it was is no longer a fireball. You know,
Speaker 1: this is amazing. It it turned into this. How do
Speaker 1: I explain it? An arrow head crafts that's the size
Speaker 1: of two or three football fields. So if you can
Speaker 1: imagine a triangle shape, but an arrowhead has a the
Speaker 1: back end to it that sticks out. So that's that's
Speaker 1: what this object looks like. And on each corner there's
Speaker 1: a circular white like light that's attached on each of
Speaker 1: the corners, and they're lighting up and then dimming, and
Speaker 1: then lighting up and then dimming. And this thing is
Speaker 1: just gliding across the sky how almost how a jet
Speaker 1: plane would be, just smoothest filt moving across the sky.
Speaker 1: I'm watching it, and then on the back end of it,
Speaker 1: behind it, you can see like it looks like fireworks
Speaker 1: on the back of it, the red fireworks that are
Speaker 1: like crisscrossing in the sky. Some type of energy or something.
Speaker 1: I can't even discribe what it is. And I'm just
Speaker 1: watching it and just you know, I'm thinking myself, God,
Speaker 1: my god, other people must be seen this. It's going
Speaker 1: to try to like go away at some point or something,
Speaker 1: but it just casually just goes along its way till
Speaker 1: I can't see it anymore. I mean, chess blew my mind,
Speaker 1: just amazing.
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Speaker 1: So you can imagine, as I've progressed there with these stories,
Speaker 1: it's just becoming, you know, more and more relevant all
Speaker 1: these things. And as these things are happening in my life,
Speaker 1: I'm still you know, watching videos, reading books, you know,
Speaker 1: trying to trying to learn things, you know, information gathering
Speaker 1: other experiences that people have had. I ended up finding
Speaker 1: on me, which is, you know, what some other people
Speaker 1: have described as a scoop mark, which is something on
Speaker 1: you that on your skin that looks like if you
Speaker 1: were to take an ice cream scooper it would have
Speaker 1: to be like a tiny, little miniature one and a
Speaker 1: little scoop of your flesh is taken out and it
Speaker 1: leaves a little tiny indentation, and then you know, a
Speaker 1: smooth over the top. I've seen it on other people,
Speaker 1: and I remember when my mom had told me when
Speaker 1: I was born that the doctor had said, oh, that's
Speaker 1: kind of odd that he whatever this is that he
Speaker 1: has on him. You know, we never thought about it then,
Speaker 1: but after I've heard from other abductees, I put two
Speaker 1: and two together, and sure enough, you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: what it seemed like it was. You've had some other
Speaker 1: people on the show that had also talked about this.
Speaker 1: I have two very strange scars on my lower part
Speaker 1: of my back. They are thin, They're probably each of
Speaker 1: them are two inches long, just paper thin and perfectly straight.
Speaker 1: I don't know where they came from, but I've always
Speaker 1: had them there, and I have just horrible back pain.
Speaker 1: And I have heard that from other people, and I
Speaker 1: kind of just kind of put two and two together
Speaker 1: on it. So, you know, as all these things are
Speaker 1: collecting in my life, I came to a spot where
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, I've heard many stories from other abductees.
Speaker 1: You know, am I an abductee? You know? You know,
Speaker 1: I have these things that have happened, but nothing is
Speaker 1: really clear telling me that I'm a part of some thing.
Speaker 1: I just you know, maybe I'm just some guide. It's
Speaker 1: had some experiences so I make the decision to do
Speaker 1: hypnosis because I'm thinking, you know, this could maybe open
Speaker 1: my eyes to some things that maybe are hidden underneath
Speaker 1: the surface and I just haven't gotten to them yet.
Speaker 1: I do some research and I find a pretty well
Speaker 1: known I'm not going to see their name, but a
Speaker 1: very well known hypnotherapist that does, you know, the stuff
Speaker 1: for abductees. And it was kind of strange because before
Speaker 1: I even made the connection with this person, I started
Speaker 1: feeling very ill, and it was almost felt like something
Speaker 1: was trying to distract me from doing this. And I'll
Speaker 1: get to why I'm telling you this. So I ended
Speaker 1: up just talking to the person on the phone and
Speaker 1: not having a session, and we talked about my experiences
Speaker 1: and the things I'm telling you about, and they talk
Speaker 1: about other things and tell me their stories that they've heard,
Speaker 1: and we have a pretty long conversation about everything, and
Speaker 1: I don't really take it any further than that. But
Speaker 1: like I said, I was feeling it extremely ill prior
Speaker 1: to connecting this is with this person, to the point
Speaker 1: where I almost felt like I needed to go to
Speaker 1: the hospital to day before I actually made the phone
Speaker 1: call to this person, and it felt like something was
Speaker 1: trying to like stop me. So I felt like, if
Speaker 1: there is something out that they were just being mean
Speaker 1: to me and trying to keep me from having my
Speaker 1: experience that I felt like I deserved. But what ended
Speaker 1: up happening, this is really bizarre. I started having after
Speaker 1: I had talked to this person. It probably was just
Speaker 1: within a week or so, you know, going to work,
Speaker 1: taking the dog for a walk, I started noticing helicopters
Speaker 1: and I thought, oh, no, no, no, no, this is silly.
Speaker 1: You know. I heard these stories about the helicopters and whatnot,
Speaker 1: and I don't even believe this stuff. So I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything about it to anybody, you know, even though
Speaker 1: I noticed these things happening. So one day I'm that
Speaker 1: way ex wife's house and it's the weekend or something.
Speaker 1: She's on her back porch and she's having a glass
Speaker 1: of wine or something, you know, just out in the
Speaker 1: backyard area. And I'm in her house and I'm washing
Speaker 1: like a cup or something, and I can see her
Speaker 1: through the window in the kitchen. It looked out to
Speaker 1: the backyard. She's sitting out there and I'm looking at her,
Speaker 1: and she says out loud. She goes Hey, I know
Speaker 1: it's gonna sound weird, but I think there's a helicopter
Speaker 1: watching me and I about to do a back flip.
Speaker 1: I go off, and I'm like what, she goes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm spending hereving wine, and it looks like going in
Speaker 1: a very large, like one mile round circle. This helicopter
Speaker 1: keeps coming back to this position where it's in front
Speaker 1: of me, you know, far far away, and it's just
Speaker 1: sitting there, and then I'll do it again, and I think,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness. So then I tell her my stories.
Speaker 1: I mean I would be on a walk with my
Speaker 1: dog and they would just go up. If I was
Speaker 1: trying to make contact in the backyard with you know,
Speaker 1: with crafts or something looking with my binoculars, they would
Speaker 1: come flying, you know, almost over the house and not
Speaker 1: even try to hide themselves, just be obvious to stop
Speaker 1: and let and look at me. I had one where
Speaker 1: I was in the back watering the lawns and I
Speaker 1: could hear, very faintly, just this real slight, just this
Speaker 1: what's that noise?
Speaker 3: What is that?
Speaker 1: And I look up and I see just this dot
Speaker 1: straight above me in the sky, and I think I
Speaker 1: can't even see what this is. So I once again,
Speaker 1: I grabbed the binoculars and it's this help. I didn't
Speaker 1: even know it was this this helicopter. I didn't even
Speaker 1: know helicopters should fly this high. This thing is so
Speaker 1: far up there, and it looks like this pretty high
Speaker 1: text type helicopter and they're just sitting their stations. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I put two and two together, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't understanding bad about the you know,
Speaker 1: the hypnotherapist person, but either somebody was like tapping her phone,
Speaker 1: you know, or or something, and they thought that they
Speaker 1: could kind of like catch up with me when I
Speaker 1: was having an experience or something. Whoever they are, you know,
Speaker 1: a three letter agency or something.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: This continued for a little while, and then one day
Speaker 1: it just stopped, and I actually tried back away from
Speaker 1: you know, going going out and using the binoculars and
Speaker 1: looking for UFOs and stuff. I kind of like tried
Speaker 1: to play dumb for a while and just you know,
Speaker 1: step away from it was kind of freaking me out.
Speaker 1: And that, you know, the helicopters that did eventually stop,
Speaker 1: or at least I think it stopped unless they got
Speaker 1: more self but that those experiences ended So that was
Speaker 1: really weird because I would hear stories from other people
Speaker 1: and think that they are just crazy or they are
Speaker 1: making it up, but no, it's real. So after that
Speaker 1: faded out, I got more comfortable with, you know, going in,
Speaker 1: you know, sitting out back and looking for stuff in
Speaker 1: the sky. One day, I'm sitting back in the backyard
Speaker 1: and I'm not having much luck looking for anything in
Speaker 1: the sky, and I fall asleep, just sitting there in
Speaker 1: my lounge chair, and I not I not off for
Speaker 1: a little bit, and I start hearing this noise like
Speaker 1: like a commercial airplane. Think, oh, okay, you know we
Speaker 1: have planes that fly over the house. I look up
Speaker 1: enough in the sky, is this all white commercial plane?
Speaker 1: Big plane that has no markings on it. The windows
Speaker 1: look like they're kind of like, uh, fogged out. You know.
Speaker 1: There's no numbers, there's no brand, there's no stripe, it's
Speaker 1: just white. And on each wing there's smoke coming off
Speaker 1: the wings. And this thing flies directly over me and
Speaker 1: just you know, keeps going and goes off and it
Speaker 1: leaves this trail of the smoke that stays stays in
Speaker 1: the sky for a long time. I think, kind of
Speaker 1: stuffing out it's kind of weird. This is not you know,
Speaker 1: I'm looking the sky all the time. I see commercial
Speaker 1: planes as not normal. So then that night goes by
Speaker 1: next day, next the next evening. In the evening, I'm
Speaker 1: going to my house, I just come back from somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm taking the keys that I'm off the door to
Speaker 1: night time, and I hear that sound again and I think, oh,
Speaker 1: then just sounds like another commercial plane. Say look, and
Speaker 1: it's dark out, it's night. I see this white commercial
Speaker 1: plane again. That's the same thing, comes straight over me.
Speaker 1: It's really high in the sky this time, and it's
Speaker 1: got smoke coming off of each wing. Goes directly over
Speaker 1: me and continues on same plane like no markings on it. No,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just too obvious that it is the
Speaker 1: same thing. And I think for myself, gosh, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know why I'm feeling this way,
Speaker 1: but I feel like it's a message. And I think
Speaker 1: the message is something to do with what we would
Speaker 1: call chemtrails. And I, you know, I can only make assumptions.
Speaker 1: I you know, I don't know why that there this
Speaker 1: is being you know, brought to my attention. But there's
Speaker 1: something there with that. You know, I have my my
Speaker 1: views on it, but I won't get all into that
Speaker 1: right now. But definitely felt like somebody was trying to
Speaker 1: tell me something. So the orbs that I would see
Speaker 1: once in a while, like I said, some of those,
Speaker 1: not the ghostly looking arms, with just the regular metal
Speaker 1: looking orbs, they would come, and sometimes they would come
Speaker 1: in different colors. There was like a few different colors
Speaker 1: that whatever was lighting them up, they would be kind
Speaker 1: of glowing in that color, you know, whether it be
Speaker 1: like red or blue or you know, like a yellowish,
Speaker 1: you know color. And how I thought of this, I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I thought, I wonder if I can
Speaker 1: communicate a question and say, you know, if this question
Speaker 1: is white, you know, whatever I'm asking, send me one
Speaker 1: of those orbs in that color. And then and then,
Speaker 1: as you know, if I'm wrong and you just don't
Speaker 1: do anything. And I kept trying to do it for
Speaker 1: a while, and eventually it worked and I got to
Speaker 1: where I was. Every so often I would think of
Speaker 1: just a real, you know, simple question, and then get
Speaker 1: my binoculars and look up into the sky and look
Speaker 1: to see if they would, you know, answer my questions,
Speaker 1: and so I'll tell you a few of the things
Speaker 1: that you know, this took months to do this because
Speaker 1: sometimes if I had asked the question, it would take
Speaker 1: days for them to come. These are some of the
Speaker 1: questions I asked and and God a reply. So I
Speaker 1: had asked questions about, you know, because at this point
Speaker 1: I was wondering if I was an abductee. And you know,
Speaker 1: you can call people abductees or experiences or contact ease
Speaker 1: whatever what all this is. And the replies I got were,
Speaker 1: an abductee is not from Earth. Abductees are from neighboring planets.
Speaker 1: And you hear sometimes people talking about this, you know,
Speaker 1: if abductees will say that the beings would tell them
Speaker 1: that they're they're from the Pleiades, or they're from O'Ryan
Speaker 1: or serious. And I don't know why they don't take
Speaker 1: them more serious when they're told this, but that's what
Speaker 1: I was told, and that abductees weren't invited or volunteered
Speaker 1: to come here and to help with what they call
Speaker 1: the change, and as well to help with providing you know,
Speaker 1: women would help to provide with with eggs and men
Speaker 1: for sexual fluids for you know, creating children, and as
Speaker 1: well abductees were here to like learn about human culture
Speaker 1: and just the whole you know, just the way of
Speaker 1: life here. And so I had asked, you know, various
Speaker 1: questions on that subject. You know, some people probably already
Speaker 1: know about these things. And then I even got into
Speaker 1: I had asked a few questions about Bigfoot or sasquatch,
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it. This is what I
Speaker 1: got out of it. This is very interesting. Bigfoot is
Speaker 1: not from this planet. Bigfoot is brought here by the aliens,
Speaker 1: and it is used as like a helper or something.
Speaker 1: It can look out, you know, because they're so healthy
Speaker 1: and so agile, they can you know, cone to the forests,
Speaker 1: and you know, they can use it as a way
Speaker 1: to have oh the check on the environment. You know, actually,
Speaker 1: you know, it actually check on the health of the
Speaker 1: environment and you know, checking out rivers, streams, the animals,
Speaker 1: all all various things. And is even used to scare
Speaker 1: the heck out of abduct these slash experiencers. And I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, I asked, why, you know, why would you
Speaker 1: want to scare the abductees, And I guess it's to
Speaker 1: help them to accept who they are and to start
Speaker 1: opening their eyes to who they are, you know, because
Speaker 1: it's such an extreme, strange experience that kind of starts
Speaker 1: sending you down this path that I got sent down
Speaker 1: with my friend's death, and so they can use it
Speaker 1: for that purpose, So hopefully that makes sense. And then
Speaker 1: other things that I had learned were when you talk
Speaker 1: about the grays, they're black eyes that people always talk
Speaker 1: about those those aren't their eyes. Those are lenses. They're
Speaker 1: like sunglasses. It's a thing that suction cuts over their
Speaker 1: actual eyes that protects their eyes. They have trouble being
Speaker 1: in extreme light lit areas, and as well, these lenses
Speaker 1: can do, you know, probably things that we don't understand,
Speaker 1: as well as like you know, night vision and other
Speaker 1: types of things. And I know this response that they
Speaker 1: gave me to be true because when I looked into
Speaker 1: the Travis Walton case, he had said that when he
Speaker 1: had gotten off the table and it had this experience
Speaker 1: with the grays, they just had regular eyes. They had
Speaker 1: big eyes, and the pupil was kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: cat eye shapes, but they didn't have black eyes. And
Speaker 1: other people have said the same thing. But like Travis
Speaker 1: said that that the lighting was kind of dim and
Speaker 1: you know, wasn't you know, a little well lit. So
Speaker 1: when people talk about these black eyes that it is
Speaker 1: not what people think this it is that is not
Speaker 1: their eyeball other things that they had told me. I know,
Speaker 1: I hear people talking about the tall blondes or the Nordic.
Speaker 1: They are hybrids. They're not some creature from another planet
Speaker 1: with a whole race of them that are coming. I
Speaker 1: think there was a guy that wrote a book on it. Now,
Speaker 1: they're hybrids. They as they're doing the hybridization process with people,
Speaker 1: the stages that we go through is almost like evolution,
Speaker 1: as they're adding alien DNA to human DNA. If you
Speaker 1: you know, say, if you started at point one and
Speaker 1: point ten is a mantis being or one of the grays,
Speaker 1: you start out as like a caveman to a person,
Speaker 1: you know, like the hybrid type. And then as it
Speaker 1: progresses forward, people say that the beings kind of look
Speaker 1: like a tall blonde or a Nordic, and then more
Speaker 1: alien DNA they kind of look like what people would
Speaker 1: call cat people. I know people have said, oh, they
Speaker 1: look like cat people, and it's just because the nose
Speaker 1: is starting to fade out and the mouth is becoming
Speaker 1: more like a split and the eyes are kind of
Speaker 1: getting larger and maybe a little bit more and so
Speaker 1: they have that impression of cat like and then as
Speaker 1: there's more DNA added to the next day, it would
Speaker 1: be someone that's like a tall gray and then probably,
Speaker 1: you know, this is just my speculation, something more like
Speaker 1: a mantis type creature, almost something similar to like what
Speaker 1: Barney and Betty experienced. I know, she like a trick
Speaker 1: play cask of one of them. So that's that's what
Speaker 1: I got out of them. Out of that, those are
Speaker 1: like the stages of the changes. Oh. Men in black. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a subject that I hear people talking about
Speaker 1: all the time too. They didn't tell me this, but
Speaker 1: this is my personal opinion from what I've gathered out
Speaker 1: of everything. The men in black from what I you know,
Speaker 1: from stories and things I've put together, they are some
Speaker 1: type of a worker bee for some higher up being
Speaker 1: that's sort of regulating overseeing what is going on here.
Speaker 1: As far as you know, what I'm calling the change,
Speaker 1: it's almost like they show up when something happens and
Speaker 1: they make sure that things don't get too far out
Speaker 1: of hands. And you know, people say they show up
Speaker 1: in suit and tie, and it's always in black, and
Speaker 1: it's always something like a vintage almost type style. So
Speaker 1: be in a black car and it's like a Cadillac
Speaker 1: from the nineteen fifties or something, you know. And people
Speaker 1: say that sometimes the men are kind of tall, thin
Speaker 1: and just look kind of odd, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: our three letter agencies. They aren't going to do something
Speaker 1: silly like that that. This is just something that totally
Speaker 1: fits with how they do things. So I've heard other
Speaker 1: people talk about seeing the beings on the craft and
Speaker 1: when they see them in clothing sometimes it would almost
Speaker 1: look they're wearing something from the cowboy type age. Is
Speaker 1: something that's just completely outdated, misstated, and so to me
Speaker 1: that just kind of fits with that. But like I said,
Speaker 1: that's just my opinion. And there is no evil aliens
Speaker 1: or an alien war, or aliens coming here that are
Speaker 1: in search of gold, or the aliens are dying and
Speaker 1: they need our DNA to save their race, Aliens wanting
Speaker 1: to take over the earth, none of that. Those are
Speaker 1: just stories you know, from I from I've gathered from
Speaker 1: them and then my research combined with what I've gathered
Speaker 1: from them. None of that stuff. No, it just doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. And let's see, like one of my final
Speaker 1: things on this topic that I had figured out was
Speaker 1: count mutilations and from what I gathered from them, and
Speaker 1: you know what I've put together for myself, it's something
Speaker 1: to do with our health because we eat meat and
Speaker 1: we drink milk, and you know, cows are a big
Speaker 1: part of society as far as in food. They are
Speaker 1: taking these cows and they're testing them and they can
Speaker 1: find out through the cows stages of what the planet
Speaker 1: is going through as far as the health of the planet,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know there's always that saying you
Speaker 1: are what you eat. You know, I know I know
Speaker 1: this to be true. But beyond that, my opinion is
Speaker 1: because people say, well they have they look like they've
Speaker 1: been mutilated. I think that some of these, like laser
Speaker 1: line cuts on the cows and the precisionry, it's to
Speaker 1: leave that question in people, for them to look at
Speaker 1: it and make a conversation about it and say this
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense to create a form of disclosure, but
Speaker 1: leave that question mark there. You know. That's what I
Speaker 1: gather from it. So I know that one of the
Speaker 1: things that they have tried to really explain is that
Speaker 1: you know, people take their life so seriously. This is
Speaker 1: just the end of the road. And I really have
Speaker 1: experienced that with my parents. This is what I've gathered
Speaker 1: from them, and I really want people to pay attention
Speaker 1: to this. Living your life is like going to school.
Speaker 1: This is school time, and then when you die, that
Speaker 1: is home. What I've gathered from what they've explained to me.
Speaker 1: The soul goes home after it's gone to school basically,
Speaker 1: and death, the soul goes home. And your time here
Speaker 1: is education time, and it's not your you know, your
Speaker 1: final destination, and it isn't all that you have. And
Speaker 1: you're going to go to school many many times. As
Speaker 1: your soul grows and strengthens and becomes more capable, you're
Speaker 1: learning is or experiences, and you let go of say
Speaker 1: you've had a million experiences, you have all these memories,
Speaker 1: You let go of that, all of that for that
Speaker 1: time being that you hear so you can focus on
Speaker 1: your now time experience and then you take that back
Speaker 1: with you and add that to all the other experiences
Speaker 1: that you've had. But death is not the ending. Death
Speaker 1: is nothing near to that. It's a much larger picture.
Speaker 1: It is who you are your soul is who you are.
Speaker 1: Your body is merely a container. If you were driving
Speaker 1: a car, the car is the container and you're driving
Speaker 1: the car. That's basically what it is. You know. I
Speaker 1: really want to, you know, emphasize that because growing up
Speaker 1: with how I experience things that I did not see
Speaker 1: anything that way, and it can be very depressing to
Speaker 1: see things as so final. That's not how things are.
Speaker 1: I know this to be true with everything I've experienced,
Speaker 1: and so to get to you know, I'm getting closer
Speaker 1: to the bigger picture here, and you know, what all
Speaker 1: this adds up to in the end is the point
Speaker 1: of this soul of them coming here, of abductees and
Speaker 1: the hybrids and the whole big picture. What I've gathered
Speaker 1: from them and what they've explained and I've learned from
Speaker 1: other abductees and my experiences, is that human beings are
Speaker 1: like the people have the saying of the kids have
Speaker 1: found the matches. Humans have discovered nuclear energy can blow
Speaker 1: up this planet. Have had you know, we've dropped the bombs,
Speaker 1: We've tested nuclear weapons. This is hard to believe that
Speaker 1: this is this is a fact. Almost two thousand times
Speaker 1: we've lit off a nuclear weapons for testing, whether it
Speaker 1: be in the ocean, underground, above grounds, you know, wherever.
Speaker 1: And from what I gathered from these beings that caused
Speaker 1: serious damage, irreversible damage, they were given literally no choice
Speaker 1: but to come here. And from what I've gathered from them,
Speaker 1: the abductees that are from neighboring planets, you know, serious pleated.
Speaker 1: They've treated some type of link between them and Earth,
Speaker 1: whether it be portals or wormholes or whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And if we destroy Earth, it can be like a
Speaker 1: domino effect, like a chain reaction and do serious damage
Speaker 1: to them. And so coming here and trying to help
Speaker 1: humans and bance and change their ways and become more
Speaker 1: people is for selfish reasons as well, because they don't
Speaker 1: want to see you know, their own place, you know, destroyed,
Speaker 1: you know. And on top of the fact that you know,
Speaker 1: with us creating you know, pollution and toxic waste, and
Speaker 1: you know, all all the things that we have done.
Speaker 1: And I think that people, you know, even people that
Speaker 1: kind of understand this stuff, they don't understand that. Just
Speaker 1: like what I was talking about about life being a
Speaker 1: school and death being where you go your soul's destination.
Speaker 1: My personal opinion, they didn't they didn't tell me this,
Speaker 1: but you know, here we live on Earth in the
Speaker 1: three dimensional world, and the soul world lean up against
Speaker 1: that three dimensional world. The two are basically, you know,
Speaker 1: two cars get the cards leaning on each other, and
Speaker 1: if you damage one, the other one falls over. We
Speaker 1: have these two worlds that are leaning on each other
Speaker 1: that we bounce back and forth from. If we destroy
Speaker 1: this planet, we destroy both those worlds and leave ourselves
Speaker 1: completely homeless and as well as we could do the
Speaker 1: same to the others. And so that leaves them no
Speaker 1: choice but to step in and come up with an
Speaker 1: idea of what they call the change. And I'll try
Speaker 1: to explain that as best as I can. So what
Speaker 1: they call the change is there's some type of rule.
Speaker 1: Apparently there's some type of beings that are above them
Speaker 1: that create the rules for them. And it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a mystery to the aliens to what even
Speaker 1: they are, like how we feel like the aliens are
Speaker 1: a mystery to us. But they know enough to know
Speaker 1: that there's rules and they're not to mess with the humans.
Speaker 1: They're not to step on the path that the humans
Speaker 1: are going on. So the beings have devised its way
Speaker 1: to send out a message into the galaxy to bring
Speaker 1: aliens in to come here as humans and to work
Speaker 1: on repairing this, you know, to get people humans on
Speaker 1: the right track. And part of that is hybrid which
Speaker 1: is on crafts are hybrids that are human looking. It's
Speaker 1: the new future human body, and they're learning on craft
Speaker 1: about you know, alien life and somewhat of human culture.
Speaker 1: And then the abductees are here on Earth, you know,
Speaker 1: like myself or other abductees, living human life and living
Speaker 1: human culture. And I think there's more and more abductees
Speaker 1: being born coming here each state to where my personal
Speaker 1: opinion is there might even be more abductees than there
Speaker 1: is humans. And so as the change comes, which is
Speaker 1: also incorporated with disclosure, but what people call disclosure, from
Speaker 1: what I understand, is just abductees waking up to the change,
Speaker 1: remembering what they were here for, why they're here, and
Speaker 1: what the mission is. And eventually, as hybrids come to
Speaker 1: being here on Earth, abductees and hybrids will come together
Speaker 1: and have children, and those children will be hybrids but
Speaker 1: will be human. Souls will be born into the hybrids,
Speaker 1: and those abductees and you know, alien abductees will raise
Speaker 1: those children and teach them just like a parent does,
Speaker 1: but will teach them the new ways, the new peaceful ways,
Speaker 1: and to learn how to use these new abilities that
Speaker 1: they have, which would be not like one of the
Speaker 1: grays or the magazines, but like a basic form of telepathy.
Speaker 1: And with this telepathy is going to will bring on
Speaker 1: other much larger things. Oh and as well, everything's going
Speaker 1: to change. That planet is going to move into a
Speaker 1: much higher vibration where the animals as well are going
Speaker 1: to be hybrids. Different plants are going to be introduced.
Speaker 1: The humans will be taught that all things are energy.
Speaker 1: That people, plants, animals, we are all a part of
Speaker 1: this energy and all linked together, and we like that
Speaker 1: bond that you have creates this incredible energy, this strength,
Speaker 1: and unites us with the universe and makes us a
Speaker 1: part of the universe instead of so isolated. And I
Speaker 1: really truly believe that from when I'm gathering from them,
Speaker 1: that they're going to teach people this and hopefully, you know,
Speaker 1: the goal is that with that knowledge and with that information,
Speaker 1: it'll make people more peaceful. They'll see the bigger picture
Speaker 1: and'll be taught ways to do things with more logic
Speaker 1: as far as you know, transportation and pollution and different things.
Speaker 1: You know. The final goal would be, too, when I
Speaker 1: gathered from them, is for humans to join with the
Speaker 1: Milky Way galaxies. What would you call it, like, you know,
Speaker 1: the galactic you know federation almost kind of like you know,
Speaker 1: saying where everybody is knows of each other and is united. Now,
Speaker 1: it's not going to happen tomorrow, but over time the
Speaker 1: planets will come together, and you know, the goal would
Speaker 1: be for the for all the planets to be united
Speaker 1: as one, to be a part of this much larger picture.
Speaker 1: And beyond that, I don't know what's going on with it.
Speaker 1: So that's how that all stands as far as my
Speaker 1: opinion and what information I've gathered.
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Speaker 1: Now the close of all this, I haven't talked a
Speaker 1: whole lot about myself and where I fit into all
Speaker 1: this and what I have learned. And they've told me this,
Speaker 1: this is coming from their mouths. There's different types of abductees.
Speaker 1: I know it too, but there may be more the
Speaker 1: abductees that are from neighboring planets. And I thought, when
Speaker 1: I was going through all learning all this, I thought, oh, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm probably from the Pleiades or something,
Speaker 1: and oh, how neat is all that you know? And
Speaker 1: so when I got to ask them questions and them
Speaker 1: sending me things to try to respond, They're like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not from here. You're not from the most of
Speaker 1: Way galaxy. I thought, what And so what I'd gathered
Speaker 1: from them is that me and others that I have
Speaker 1: met are from a completely different galaxy and have come
Speaker 1: as a guest to participate in this, and that since
Speaker 1: I'm not and others like me aren't from here, obviously
Speaker 1: I won't be part of the bigger picture of uniting
Speaker 1: with the galaxy. You know, maybe we'll get the Way
Speaker 1: galaxy because I'm not from this galaxy. So I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be a part of the longer standing process. And I
Speaker 1: know this because I have seen, you know, abductees that
Speaker 1: tell stories about how the beings that said, oh you're
Speaker 1: from the pleats and you know this net, and they
Speaker 1: seem to almost baby them, you know, help them get
Speaker 1: through steps in life and whatnot stuff. And I've always
Speaker 1: said to myself, my god, nobody's ever helped me in
Speaker 1: my life's spent a nightmare. It's nothing but worse. Well,
Speaker 1: it's because I'm not It's not to their advantage to
Speaker 1: help me. I'm just a guest. And by helping the
Speaker 1: other adductees it helps the bigger picture of what their
Speaker 1: plan is, to make sure they're successful in life and
Speaker 1: make sure they don't you know, accidentally freaking hurt themselves
Speaker 1: or different things. But with me, it's like he, you know,
Speaker 1: he's just a guest. And I've asked them, you know,
Speaker 1: are you guys not helping me because I'm an outsider,
Speaker 1: and they have said yes and no, So there's there's
Speaker 1: something more to it. But I've always had that feeling,
Speaker 1: you know, just an outsider looking in basically, and I've
Speaker 1: met others that that are like me and for me
Speaker 1: to even have gathered as much information as I have
Speaker 1: as odd for the type that I am, because it's
Speaker 1: difficult to gather that information. And as far as what
Speaker 1: I had said about the bigger picture with abductees, I
Speaker 1: think there's millions of abductees out there that don't even
Speaker 1: know their abductees and will never know that their abductees.
Speaker 1: You know, the goal would be for you to never
Speaker 1: know for the most part until it's time and just
Speaker 1: go through your life smoothly and not you know, be
Speaker 1: stressed over this and you know, confused, and you know,
Speaker 1: some you knowes always feel like the Boogeyman's out to
Speaker 1: get me and they're trying to hurt me, and you know,
Speaker 1: which is completely untrue. And the majority of the abductions
Speaker 1: are actually a positive thing because that part of the
Speaker 1: purpose is to it's like a check up. It's like
Speaker 1: a doctor's check up. They bring you up and they
Speaker 1: check your help and make sure everything's going okay, and
Speaker 1: then drop you back off. And so what people call
Speaker 1: this horrible experience is actually for a good purpose. So
Speaker 1: all that and who I am and the experiences I've had,
Speaker 1: now it's starting to die off, and I haven't had
Speaker 1: the experiences like that I've had in the past, and
Speaker 1: I'm not having it so much anymore. But I feel
Speaker 1: very confident in what I'm saying, and other people that
Speaker 1: have experiences and they seem kind of confused and not
Speaker 1: know what you know how to perceive all of this.
Speaker 1: And I can't say that that you know everything I'm
Speaker 1: saying is written in stone, but it's pretty close. And
Speaker 1: I hope that with what I'm saying help some people
Speaker 1: that feel confused and a little bit unsure of like
Speaker 1: what they're going through and what it all means. It's
Speaker 1: all something extremely positive and may not always feel positive,
Speaker 1: but it is the purpose of it is extremely good
Speaker 1: meaning and in the end, it's going to be something
Speaker 1: extremely beautiful. So Nick, that's that's my story for the
Speaker 1: most part.
Speaker 3: Great job, Christian oh Man.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Yeah, you know, Nick, I don't. I
Speaker 1: can't say I know this, but you know, part of
Speaker 1: the reason why I did this is I feel like
Speaker 1: you're a special individual and I feel that you know
Speaker 1: that connection that feeling with you. I can't say I
Speaker 1: know that for a fact, but there's definitely something there,
Speaker 1: and I hope that you're taking the time out when
Speaker 1: you have time to investigate.
Speaker 3: That always good to hear someone saying that you're special.
Speaker 1: I like that, Yeah, definitely. So Yeah, that's pretty much
Speaker 1: all I have to give you. That's the whole barrel
Speaker 1: of it all.
Speaker 3: It always reminds you of mankind, destructive we are and
Speaker 3: all the problems that we have in the world. Always
Speaker 3: reminds me of the very beginning of two thousand and
Speaker 3: one Space Odyssey. Oh my god, the primate first discovers
Speaker 3: fire and then he starts to attack all the other
Speaker 3: animals that he'd lived in peace with, you know, in
Speaker 3: the Golden Age at the very very beginning. You know,
Speaker 3: you get this power and all of a sudden, that's.
Speaker 1: It destruction that movie. How did he know so much?
Speaker 1: That's how did he just taps into this whole subject.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's there's a lot of hidden meanings and a
Speaker 3: lot of esoteric symbolism within that film, even right from
Speaker 3: the very beginning, you know, it's all the way through.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now I look at that movie it's from in
Speaker 1: a completely different perspective. Now, it just really taps into
Speaker 1: the whole thing, and you know, just like what I
Speaker 1: had said, you know, I'm simplifying it. Of course. You know,
Speaker 1: the humans have found the matches, you know, the kids
Speaker 1: have found the matches. Yeah, it's pretty sad. I really
Speaker 1: hope for more for us in the future that will
Speaker 1: start waking up to the Bologny and start you know,
Speaker 1: having this sort of accountability for things, and start you know,
Speaker 1: taking responsibility and try to grab hold of the world
Speaker 1: and you know, make things right. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think the problem with facing these days is if
Speaker 3: people are too suggestible. That's not a shot at people's
Speaker 3: intelligence or anything like that, because there's a lot of
Speaker 3: very intelligent people which are getting bombarded with information constantly.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know yourself with the Internet and ads,
Speaker 3: and you're constantly being told something, sold something.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's not always the truth. People can change things
Speaker 3: and to build their own narrative, and I think that's
Speaker 3: the biggest problem. Because we're bombarded with so much information
Speaker 3: these days, people don't know what to believe, and I
Speaker 3: think a lot of time people end up believing the
Speaker 3: wrong thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it seems like a lot of it in
Speaker 1: the end is all about money.
Speaker 3: And that's what it boils down to. Money and power.
Speaker 1: Money and power, you know, I see the bigger picture
Speaker 1: nowadays and allowed people to get so insanely filthy rich
Speaker 1: that it seems like they've just gotten bored and the
Speaker 1: money's just not even good enough anymore. They want power,
Speaker 1: they want to they feel this entitlement that they want
Speaker 1: to play god.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, you have people in power now,
Speaker 3: which it's just because they just have vast amounts of money,
Speaker 3: and they can just change public opinion, and you know
Speaker 3: they can. They can be experts of things and have
Speaker 3: their little fingers involved in things which they you know,
Speaker 3: they shouldn't be anywhere near. And I think until people
Speaker 3: realize that they are people out there which are changing
Speaker 3: the world not for the better but for their own interests,
Speaker 3: belief or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I always say to myself, you know, there's you
Speaker 1: can be the bad guy, and you can do horrible things,
Speaker 1: and you can be what you would call the good
Speaker 1: guy and say, you know that person's bad, they're doing
Speaker 1: all these horrible things. I'm the good guy. I don't
Speaker 1: do those things. But the reality is is that in
Speaker 1: order for things to change, for things to get better,
Speaker 1: you can't just be the good guy. You have to
Speaker 1: have accountability, you have to you have to do something
Speaker 1: about the bad guy. You can't just sit there. You
Speaker 1: have to do something to create a create something positive, and.
Speaker 3: That's what people should be doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know it dates back to
Speaker 1: the you know, the kings and queens days of you know,
Speaker 1: the peasants that are just living in the poorhouses, wanting
Speaker 1: to just meekly be left alone. You know, things never
Speaker 1: actually change until they get so fed up and then
Speaker 1: they start uniting together, and nothing happens until that finally happens.
Speaker 3: And well, the kings and the queens of old you
Speaker 3: should do is they would divide the people, and that
Speaker 3: is what we've sinned for Like forever, nothing's changed. We're
Speaker 3: constantly divided. That's why you can't group because we hate
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: That's the thing. Until people realize that, you know, if
Speaker 3: you want to make change, you have to all come
Speaker 3: together and do things the right way.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's been there in our faith forever. None
Speaker 1: of what we're seeing in front of us now is
Speaker 1: anything new. Like you said before, it's the same, you know,
Speaker 1: dialogue or whatever you want to call it, regurgitated again.
Speaker 1: It's like, I think our kids need to go into
Speaker 1: the history books and learn from the past to not
Speaker 1: repeat in the future.
Speaker 3: And I think this is what they rely on. They
Speaker 3: rely on the fact that when new generations come out,
Speaker 3: they've just thrown the same crap and then accept it.
Speaker 3: And you're absolutely right about learning from the past. People
Speaker 3: don't seem to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sad. I really I have high hopes and
Speaker 1: you know, and everything that I've talked about, maybe we've
Speaker 1: reached the point where there is no hope and there's
Speaker 1: going to have to be something, you know, drastic that happens.
Speaker 1: You know, I can't say I know the future, but
Speaker 1: it just seems to be pointing in that direct.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes things have to get really, really bad
Speaker 3: before they get better.
Speaker 1: You know. I think part of the reason why people
Speaker 1: are attracted to you and this show is in between
Speaker 1: you and the people that are attracted to the show
Speaker 1: are this you know, more positive thing, and it definitely
Speaker 1: radiates out and makes people feel better and makes people
Speaker 1: feel like they're not alone, and you know, there's others
Speaker 1: out there like them, and like you had said to me,
Speaker 1: there's you're getting more people contacting you. You know. Hopefully
Speaker 1: it just keeps progressing in that way.
Speaker 3: So the people that contact. I mean the people have
Speaker 3: as guests. There are no particular type, you know that
Speaker 3: they're not only males and not only females. It's every
Speaker 3: type of person you can imagine from so many different
Speaker 3: religions and locations and levels of education, different background. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it is such a cross section. It's all about about learning,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, and if people can all come
Speaker 3: to the table and share what they've exped experienced, and
Speaker 3: then people do connect, and people do connect with the show,
Speaker 3: and they do connect with the guests and stuff, and
Speaker 3: they want to know more and they want to learn more.
Speaker 3: Like yourself, you were kind of shielded from this this
Speaker 3: subject when you're youngest.
Speaker 1: Oh man, Absolutely, you.
Speaker 3: Came to it later. You've definitely caught up now though.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh I had to really get in there and
Speaker 1: get going on it. I just felt like the a
Speaker 1: veil had been lifted over the top of my head.
Speaker 3: And I often see that of a lot of my guests.
Speaker 3: You know, they grew up in a particular background.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Sometimes an example would be said that they were brought
Speaker 3: up as Catholics. This kind of stuff was just wasn't
Speaker 3: spoken about as a child. They were you know, completely
Speaker 3: separated from any of the actual possibilities in life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly how you know it was for me,
Speaker 1: and I see it with others, you know, and what
Speaker 1: you had said about the all walks of light, you know,
Speaker 1: writers and hypno therapist people like you know Jacobs and
Speaker 1: you know, Bud Hopkins, they'd say it had said exactly
Speaker 1: what you said, all walk the life, I mean people
Speaker 1: from one spectrum to the complete other end of the spectrum,
Speaker 1: from police officers, the doctors, the homeless people to somebody
Speaker 1: living on a reservations. I mean, just every type of life.
Speaker 3: Even though we don't always publicize, you know what the
Speaker 3: person does, a lot of people do. Talk to me
Speaker 3: off al and yeah, it's the whole spectrum of people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it just it wrapped around every type.
Speaker 3: It doesn't discriminate, no, wonderful Christie.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: When you began, you know, you're you're talking about your
Speaker 3: friend that had passed. And then later on, yeah, your
Speaker 3: best friend that had passed. You know, you can certainly
Speaker 3: categorize that as being unfinished business, you know, you know
Speaker 3: the very Oh you know, when you when your friend
Speaker 3: passed away, you didn't you didn't know you didn't go
Speaker 3: to the funeral, which is you know, that's normal, and
Speaker 3: it could just be that your friend wanted to simply
Speaker 3: say goodbye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what his intentions were,
Speaker 1: but I sure felt his personality because he was kind
Speaker 1: of a boisterous person. It just for me left a
Speaker 1: feeling of that, you know, it would have been okay
Speaker 1: to go to the funeral. It's it's a you know that.
Speaker 1: At that point in time, I just thought it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter because there is nothing happening out there anyways. But
Speaker 1: as time went by and I learned more, it does matter.
Speaker 1: Not you know, not necessarily like you have to go
Speaker 1: to someone's funeral, but it does matter. They mattered, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Yeah, of course, yeah, And so
Speaker 1: it just it just it taught me a lot.
Speaker 3: And then that put you on a particular path.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, the three you know situations completely. I mean,
Speaker 1: who would have guessed? You know here, I feel so silly,
Speaker 1: like how I didn't even know what the word the
Speaker 1: grays was. I had no idea, and you.
Speaker 3: Know you didn't. You didn't have any interest in this
Speaker 3: kind of thing.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe it's just like anybody else. I loved
Speaker 1: watching Star Trek and Star Wars and things like that.
Speaker 1: But no matter how much I liked those things, there
Speaker 1: was always something pulling me back because of what my
Speaker 1: parents had taught me that it was just fiction, you know,
Speaker 1: So I never really took it to that next level
Speaker 1: of what I could see within it.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that does make sense. Yeah, I said a lot
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people in their you know,
Speaker 3: their past, it was exactly the same. You know, they
Speaker 3: were very late. And sometimes my guests, you know, have
Speaker 3: had zero interest in the subjects, and a lot of
Speaker 3: them just want to come on and just just share
Speaker 3: it and be done with it. They have no interest
Speaker 3: in investigating it further.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I see that. I see some people that they
Speaker 1: have their story, and they have stories that are more, way,
Speaker 1: more intense than mine, and they just wanted to go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I had a guest on a while ago
Speaker 3: and he said to me, goes, listen, I've got a
Speaker 3: good job, I've got a good family life. I don't
Speaker 3: want to jeopardize any of that. I just want to
Speaker 3: share this and be completely done with it and just
Speaker 3: carry on with my life. I'm happy in that life.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't want anything to change, but I
Speaker 3: have to get this off my chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's okay. You know, that's okay. You're on
Speaker 1: this journey and it's not like, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to focus on any of this. It's always going to
Speaker 1: be out there. It's not like it's going to go
Speaker 1: away because you didn't focus on it. It's good to
Speaker 1: have your family life and your friends and your job,
Speaker 1: and you came here to have this learning experience, so hey, great,
Speaker 1: you know, focus and do that.
Speaker 3: I think for him it was it was a twofold thing.
Speaker 3: I think it was he wanted to get off his
Speaker 3: chest and tell and tell someone, and he also wanted
Speaker 3: to tell someone that, you know, he knew it was
Speaker 3: then going to be played to people and shared with
Speaker 3: people and then in turn they can take what they
Speaker 3: need from it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I understand that because that was part of
Speaker 1: my purpose, is that I was. I'm hopeful a lot
Speaker 1: of times when I hear your show and other people,
Speaker 1: they seem to have a little bit of this underlying
Speaker 1: stress in them because they'll say this and this happened,
Speaker 1: and I just don't understand. And so I'm hopeful that
Speaker 1: by telling My perspective on it that it'll help people
Speaker 1: to close that gap or to motivate them to do
Speaker 1: a little bit more other research and fill in those
Speaker 1: gaps for them and make a more complete picture, and
Speaker 1: hopefully in the end it'll be a positive picture, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: because that's.
Speaker 3: What we want really.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of people they go for these
Speaker 3: experiences and the first thing they think of, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm losing my mind. I'm going crazy, that this this
Speaker 3: stuff can be real.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I see people that or hear people that,
Speaker 1: you know, they say, you know, I was sleeping, I
Speaker 1: felt paralysis. I was taken up on a craft and
Speaker 1: they were so mean to me, and they were so
Speaker 1: they were degrading to me and treated me poorly, and
Speaker 1: and that sucks to have that for someone have to
Speaker 1: feel that way. But if they understand the bigger picture
Speaker 1: and what's going on, you know, maybe they weren't. They're
Speaker 1: in a hurry. They got to get you back, you know,
Speaker 1: they don't want you to know what's going on. You know,
Speaker 1: the freaking Air Force has got a plane coming this way,
Speaker 1: and they got to get this done. You know, there
Speaker 1: is no negative intentions, you know, there's always going to
Speaker 1: be something else that's going on that creates that, and
Speaker 1: hopefully people can understand it a little better and be
Speaker 1: a little more accepting of why it went down the
Speaker 1: way it did.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: That's great, Okay, my friend. Well, I appreciate everything, Christian.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks very much, and stay in contact.
Speaker 3: With me absolutely, Keep in contact all right, and I
Speaker 3: will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Ah by bye, Okay, take care.
Speaker 3: That's all for this week. Keep updated and connected with
Speaker 3: the show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if you
Speaker 3: have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,
Speaker 3: you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,
Speaker 3: or you can reach out to me via the contact
Speaker 3: page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A
Speaker 3: big than to Christian for sharing tonight, and thank you
Speaker 3: all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then,
Speaker 3: stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.