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<v Speaker 1>You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report

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<v Speaker 1>a UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to.

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<v Speaker 3>Report every thirty one.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you wish to report a.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you wish to find a report of any kind

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<v Speaker 3>of it? I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

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<v Speaker 1>Time areas thirty one me neither there. See if it

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<v Speaker 1>was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>Seconds ago, we were sending one of golf negative.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, OFFI the UFO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's murder two nine o'clock.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I'll passed over, I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what it was, but it's from at

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<v Speaker 1>least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed

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<v Speaker 1>right over the top of us ninety one one.

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<v Speaker 4>You just called both to me before rest.

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<v Speaker 1>They're after staying the airplanes he is.

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<v Speaker 2>I sere to God more Calm on an unidentified object

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<v Speaker 2>every Liberty four call or calm on an Unidentified flying object.

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<v Speaker 3>A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share

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<v Speaker 3>Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you

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<v Speaker 3>Christian about his mortial UFO sightings and other strange experiences.

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<v Speaker 3>Hello Christian, Welcome to the show. Hello, thank you, thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for coming on today. And you're calling from California.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, calling from California, Southern California.

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<v Speaker 3>Great stuff. Now, Christian, you have some experiences to share

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<v Speaker 3>with us. Would you like style a beginning please, sir?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm going to try to do this in order

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<v Speaker 1>of from my youth to present time, and that way

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<v Speaker 1>I won't hopefully leave anything out. It'll just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>flow from how things went, you know, from one stage

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<v Speaker 1>to the next. So as a child. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>came from a pretty pretty poor family. My parents were,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the States, what you consider like hippies. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in my fifties, so this was probably back in

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<v Speaker 1>the sixties, and you know, there was different types of

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<v Speaker 1>hippies at that time. There was the heavy religious type

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was the atheists. And my parents were

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<v Speaker 1>the atheists, and so they had we had no religion

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<v Speaker 1>growing up. No God, no spirits, no no ghosts, no aliens,

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<v Speaker 1>no anything. They they didn't believe in anything. And so

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<v Speaker 1>that trickled down to me and just was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>my my lifestyle as well, and so I didn't experience

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<v Speaker 1>any of these things that we're going to be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>So things that would happen, I didn't really understand what

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<v Speaker 1>they meant. So, you know, growing up and being a child,

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<v Speaker 1>at night, I would have what I would call now

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like night terrors, fear waking up and I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there was something maybe in the room with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, my parents just took it as just

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<v Speaker 1>me just being a silly kid. So this continued and

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<v Speaker 1>never really understanding what it was. My personality was always

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<v Speaker 1>my parents would make jokes that I had this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a sense of urgency to my personality. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>just it never really quite made sense. I remember getting

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<v Speaker 1>up at night and trying to sleep in my parents' bedroom,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they wouldn't want me to bother them,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'd sleep in the hallway. And I never really

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<v Speaker 1>understood what it was that was scaring me so intensely

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<v Speaker 1>because it started at one point and I never had

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<v Speaker 1>a problem before, and then it faded out at one point.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, there's that I you know, went along

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<v Speaker 1>with my life, you know, grew up, got married, had

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<v Speaker 1>started changing things. I had a friend that passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a sleeved tattoos tattooed on both arms, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>explain to some minutes, and he had passed away, and

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<v Speaker 1>since it was my first time experiencing death like that,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't go to his funeral. And I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was probably two or three months or somewhere, maybe two

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<v Speaker 1>or three weeks after he had passed away. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a dream where I'm in the dark and I see

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<v Speaker 1>this image in front of me, and something's telling me

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<v Speaker 1>that it's that it's him, And I have this vision

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<v Speaker 1>of these tattoos and the image just coming closer to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see this arm fling up in the air

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<v Speaker 1>and take a swing at me, and I Jolton, and

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up from you know, the dreams, and I

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<v Speaker 1>being disappointed in me because I didn't go to his funeral,

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<v Speaker 1>and so from me coming from a non religious background,

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<v Speaker 1>this was just the beginning of something sort of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, triggering in me, you know. And so a

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<v Speaker 1>year later, I actually had another friend pass away, and

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<v Speaker 1>go to the funeral, and a buddy of mine that

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<v Speaker 1>and it was very emotional, and we left and I

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<v Speaker 1>had gone home, and for that next few weeks, I

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<v Speaker 1>time to think, and I kept having these really off

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<v Speaker 1>the wall thoughts about my buddy where I could almost

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<v Speaker 1>feel like this not telepathy, but this strange communication type thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was almost leading me to some things where

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<v Speaker 1>I went and visited some old friends of his that

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<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't even acquainted with. And then one evening,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was leaving work, I heard I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>it was telepathy, but just something form of communication of

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<v Speaker 1>someone saying of him saying goodbye, and I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>jolted to myself and said out loud, okay, goodbye, and

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<v Speaker 1>the feelings left and more are gone. I didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>any more of experiences with that. So again I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>something that's sort of leading me with this spirituality thing

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<v Speaker 1>that I really wasn't associated with my life. It was

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<v Speaker 1>pointing towards something, you know, that I you know, that

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't grow up with. Again, I had a third friend,

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<v Speaker 1>which who was my best friend, who had passed away

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<v Speaker 1>probably like another year or so after this, and this was,

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<v Speaker 1>grown up with, and I didn't even know that he

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<v Speaker 1>had passed away for the first year, but we had

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<v Speaker 1>had a falling out and we hadn't been speaking. And

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<v Speaker 1>then I decided I want to get a hold of him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was having trouble getting ahold of him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I called his ex girlfriend and she had said to

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<v Speaker 1>me that she was having trouble getting ahold of him

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and so I said to her, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can, you know, figure out where he is,

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<v Speaker 1>if he moved, or what's going on. So I put

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<v Speaker 1>my feelers out and I started doing my homework a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Come to find out that he had passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as we had both found that out,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, me and his ex girlfriend, within days, I

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<v Speaker 1>started having these strange experiences. My Ben's ex wife would

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<v Speaker 1>come to visit me and our kid, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>telling me that she was seeing some form of like

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<v Speaker 1>shadow figures in my kitchen, and when I would wash

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<v Speaker 1>felt like there was somebody standing behind me, that feeling

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<v Speaker 1>that you get when there's someone there, even though you

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<v Speaker 1>don't know they're there. And it just kept happening for weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>and my kid was having strange dreams about my buddy

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<v Speaker 1>and was acting very emotional about it. My buddy's ex

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<v Speaker 1>girlfriend had called me and said that toys like that

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<v Speaker 1>she had on her mantle that didn't even have batteries

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<v Speaker 1>in them were going off and moving and it was

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<v Speaker 1>scaring her. She was feeling very uncomfortable. One night, I

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<v Speaker 1>had fallen asleep on the couch after work, and in

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<v Speaker 1>my kitchen, i'm a refrigerator. I have pictures all over

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<v Speaker 1>it of friends and familying in different events and things,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm laying on the ca How can I hear this?

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<v Speaker 1>Wrap this sounds and I think, what the heck can

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<v Speaker 1>I say out loud? I don't want to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>this right now? And I don't even know why I

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<v Speaker 1>said that. And I get up and I go in

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen, and laying on the floor is a picture

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<v Speaker 1>of my ex wife. It's the only thing that has

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<v Speaker 1>fallen off the refrigerator. And I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>use the words fall off because it was like ripped off.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it just smacked into the wall. So that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of tripped me out a little bit. And then

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<v Speaker 1>two or three maybe four days after that, once again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm washing the dishes, my kids in the living room

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<v Speaker 1>watching television, and I'm wearing a tank top, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting this feeling again that there's someone behind me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel on the shoulder part of my tank top,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel something. Someone lifts the shoulder and tug on

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<v Speaker 1>my shirt for reached me out man. I turned a

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<v Speaker 1>and yelled at my kids. Somebody just touched me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was obvious, just bizarre, and you know, I was

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<v Speaker 1>putting the pieces to get together of what I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, with my friend passing away and

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<v Speaker 1>all that. After that, everything stopped, it didn't happen anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know, once again, you know, that was

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<v Speaker 1>so extreme. I was having these feelings of geez, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there is something much more going on out there, much larger,

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<v Speaker 1>like this is just so obvious, and all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that I had been taught going up just seemed long

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<v Speaker 1>like it would just you know, with my family and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>they just sort of like miss missed the road on

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<v Speaker 1>the bigger picture. So with those three things happening, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing else, you know, ever happened with you know, deaths

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. But it kind of put me

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<v Speaker 1>in a state of mind where I started looking into

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<v Speaker 1>people that had experienced near death experiences and I started

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<v Speaker 1>watching videos on it, stuff going on the Internet, and

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<v Speaker 1>just just you know, out of curiosity and wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>learn more, and that coincidentally, I guess it's coincidentally. I

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<v Speaker 1>started bumping into videos about UFOs and aliens and different

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<v Speaker 1>things like that, and it was something that I'd never

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<v Speaker 1>really put any thought or time into. You know. There

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<v Speaker 1>was stuff about what people called the graves and I

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<v Speaker 1>had never even heard that word before. I'd never even

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<v Speaker 1>had even thought of anything of that that there was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a title put to what these characters were, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was just really intrigued. I started watching lots of

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<v Speaker 1>see a UFO. I really would like to experience something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. And then, you know, I just finished meditating

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<v Speaker 1>or four days later, I'm taking my dog for a

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<v Speaker 1>walk like I always did, and I'm walking and I

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<v Speaker 1>look up in the sky and I see frozen. It

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<v Speaker 1>looked like frozen in time, like a painting. There's this

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<v Speaker 1>what am I looking at here? So I had brought

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<v Speaker 1>know how I can explain this. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen the show Star Trek, the old Star Trek,

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<v Speaker 1>there's the large ships that you know that you always

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<v Speaker 1>and then they had these little craft that they would

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<v Speaker 1>boxy looking, world generic looking ship. That's what this thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky, and it just blew my mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't believe what I was looking at and I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that's what it was. I mean, it was obvious. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I'm looking at it with the binoculars. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>my neck started getting kind of stiff, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>looked down just for a foot second to stretch my

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<v Speaker 1>was gone, nothing there. So now this just leads one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to another. After that, I was just my mind

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<v Speaker 1>was just blown away. In between what I had experienced

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<v Speaker 1>with my friends and the near death stuff and looking

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<v Speaker 1>into the UFOs and having this experience, I just went

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<v Speaker 1>off the rails, like just completely into it. I started

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<v Speaker 1>watching reading, you know, David Jacobs's books. I looked into

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<v Speaker 1>more reading that I've ever had done in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>And why I was day and night, you know, being

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<v Speaker 1>listen to stuff while I was at work. I was

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<v Speaker 1>probably driving my family crazy. I started looking into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot crop circles, ancient Aliens, pyramids, and it was things

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<v Speaker 1>that other people had been in the head, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>had known about, but because of my upbringing, I was

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<v Speaker 1>just completely ignorant to the things, like I almost felt

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<v Speaker 1>stupid that I had missed all this, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>story of Barney and Betty and Travis Walton. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>nothing of it. I even had mentioned it to my

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<v Speaker 1>family and they're like, ass, it's all fake. So as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm experiencing all these things and becoming a more in

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<v Speaker 1>tune with myself and the subjects, other things that had

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the past started making more sense, like dreams

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<v Speaker 1>and things that I just I'd always go back to them,

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<v Speaker 1>wondering how that was weird, you know, but never understanding why,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what it was, you know, I don't. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess I call them dreams, but I don't even know

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<v Speaker 1>if that's even what they were. But I'll tell you

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<v Speaker 1>a few of them that I had had and I

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<v Speaker 1>carried with me all these years. So one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was a dream that I had had, and I never

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<v Speaker 1>understood what it meant. What I thought it was me undressed,

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<v Speaker 1>looking standing in a corner of a room and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of my body, trying to hold my body up

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm on the ground with my hands on my sighs.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how I saw it. But then once I started

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<v Speaker 1>understanding all these things. I thought, oh my god, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not what this dream was. This is my body

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<v Speaker 1>lying on a table with no clothes on in this white,

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<v Speaker 1>white room, and I'm floating above the body with my

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<v Speaker 1>hands on the sighs, trying to get back into my body,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes sense to you, And I thought, my god, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is exactly what that is. I can see the

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<v Speaker 1>room is kind of a well lit white white and

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a mistiness to it, like a

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<v Speaker 1>dampness to it. I can't see anybody around me, but

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<v Speaker 1>I feel that there's a presence. And you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously people can't float above their bodies, so I I'm assuming,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with what I gathered, mollness, that I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>like a spirit form in some way or something. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know that, you know, that started making sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>A dream that I had when I was just a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember me and my my dad falling asleep on

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<v Speaker 1>the couch late at night one night, and us waking

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<v Speaker 1>up and having to go to bed, and me getting

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<v Speaker 1>up and saying to my dad as we're walking into

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<v Speaker 1>the kitchen to get like a glass of water or something.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad while we were sleeping. I left. I left

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<v Speaker 1>my body and he's like, what I said, when we

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<v Speaker 1>were sleeping, I left my body, and he's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>that's nice. Let's go to bed, and just you know

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<v Speaker 1>that it just was forgotten about. I always carried it

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<v Speaker 1>along with me, but he didn't remember. And then another one,

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<v Speaker 1>another one that a little bit more significant that I

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<v Speaker 1>really didn't understand until just recently. I had had a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>flash vision, whatever you want to call it. Where I'm looking.

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<v Speaker 1>This is hard to hard for probably someone, for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>to envision this. I'm looking downwards and I see what

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<v Speaker 1>is really brownish red looking dirt, and I'm moving closer

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and I'm not completely understanding what this is.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can see what I thought were people lying

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<v Speaker 1>on a beach around me. They looked like they were

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<v Speaker 1>lying in this dirt. And then something like encloses, like

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<v Speaker 1>a line going across the dirt, and I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was a wave of water. So what I figured out

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<v Speaker 1>what this all was is me lying face down on

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<v Speaker 1>a table looking downward. The craft has some type of

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<v Speaker 1>invisibility ability, like where you can see through it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing it coming down landing in this cave and

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<v Speaker 1>what I thought were people lying on a beach or

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<v Speaker 1>other people lying sitting laying on tables unconscious, and what

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<v Speaker 1>I thought was a wave. Is the craft, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ALIGNE went across, you know, it reappearing and turning into

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<v Speaker 1>a solid object, if that makes sense. And once it

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<v Speaker 1>turns into a solid object, the whole room turns white,

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<v Speaker 1>like the white white with these like beams going in

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<v Speaker 1>a circle around me, and I can see myself getting

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<v Speaker 1>up and turning around, getting off the table, and then bam,

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<v Speaker 1>something changes. And when I look back at the table,

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<v Speaker 1>I see myself on the table, but I'm not on

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<v Speaker 1>the table, but I'm looking back at myself, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm like nine feet tall, like I'm looking down

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<v Speaker 1>on myself, and I can see myself drift away from

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<v Speaker 1>the table. I see the other people. I can see

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<v Speaker 1>somebody I don't know what you know, I can't tell

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<v Speaker 1>their features. I can see someone almost sitting at like

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<v Speaker 1>a desk or something looking up at me. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I just sort of fall out of the craft. And

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm in the cave and I can see around

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<v Speaker 1>me like this large opening of this real red dirt,

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<v Speaker 1>this cave, and I can see tunnels, and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like they have like these metal platform things on the

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<v Speaker 1>ground that you can walk on, so, you know, so

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<v Speaker 1>you don't get dirt on you. And I can see

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<v Speaker 1>like a railing, and there's three tunnel openings and it

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<v Speaker 1>gets dark, you know, going into these tunnels. I'm standing

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<v Speaker 1>there or floating there or whatever you want to call it,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see two figures coming towards me, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>a girl with some young men. And the girl is

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<v Speaker 1>completely nude. Her skin is chalk chalky white. She's maybe

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<v Speaker 1>five and a half feet or so. I'm not very tall,

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<v Speaker 1>and she walks right basically like right through me, and

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<v Speaker 1>I turn and look behind me, and I can see

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<v Speaker 1>her from the back and the person walking with her,

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<v Speaker 1>and I see everything around me, and then bloosh, it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>I wake up and I'm in my room looking around completely,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just off the wall. But now that I

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<v Speaker 1>understand things more, it makes makes sense. So then another

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<v Speaker 1>one that I had had is I'm standing there. My

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<v Speaker 1>surroundings seem very like a war almost typesetting, where things

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<v Speaker 1>are leveled to the ground and it looks, gosh, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know just what you see like in movies like

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<v Speaker 1>in you know, type of war type movies. And I

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<v Speaker 1>look up at the sky and the sky looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it's on fire. It's red. The whole sky is a

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<v Speaker 1>clouds and they're blood red like a flame. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking up and I see this giant craft move across

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<v Speaker 1>the sky in front of me, going from left to right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it looks like if you took an aircraft carrier

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<v Speaker 1>that you see in the ocean and flipped it upside

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<v Speaker 1>down and made it about six times larger, longer, and wider,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just moving across the sky. Boom, Dream's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Then another one I had where I'm sitting and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at a very large screen, almost like almost a

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<v Speaker 1>TV screen, Like I'm sitting there watching something, and I

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<v Speaker 1>see behind the screen it's dark out like nighttime. I

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<v Speaker 1>see this giant wave, ocean waves that's coming coming, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's coming, and it crashes over the screen and comes

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<v Speaker 1>and crashes over me and whoever's there. The Dream's over.

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<v Speaker 1>Then My final one that relates to all this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm the dream starts and I'm at my home.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm outside once again. It's nighttime, and I'm standing there

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm looking to the sky and I see this individual.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks like me, but he's green. He has golden

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<v Speaker 1>like God, how will I explain this? Almost like an angel,

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<v Speaker 1>He's got these giant golden wings, he's floating, he's green.

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<v Speaker 1>His arms are patched out like in the wings, and

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<v Speaker 1>in each of the golden wings, he has these green emeralds.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's looking at me and he almost has like

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<v Speaker 1>a disappointed look on his face, and he is I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>at least he looks like he's me. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>go to my knees and I start crying and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this individual and I'm calling out to my

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife saying, you know, you've got to come, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to come see this. And I'm getting more and

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<v Speaker 1>more emotional, and then click, it's over. The dream's over. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, those things just sort of had an effect

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<v Speaker 1>on me. Originally, when I had the dreams, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were nothing, but it just all felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was all like leading, leading towards something. You know, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes more sense now that I see it from a

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<v Speaker 1>different perspective. So during this time and moving on forward,

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<v Speaker 1>I had other UFO experiences other than that one, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you know those I'll just kind of put

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<v Speaker 1>them all together in one story. Multiple times, when I

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<v Speaker 1>first started having the experiences, in the morning, I would

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<v Speaker 1>go check on my ex wife's pets because she'd be

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<v Speaker 1>at work, and I would always be my binoculars with me.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever since I had that one experience, I'd always just

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<v Speaker 1>keep them around. I keep them in the car or

418
00:25:43.240 --> 00:25:47.279
<v Speaker 1>just keep them available. And I'm in her backyard and

419
00:25:47.319 --> 00:25:49.319
<v Speaker 1>I look in the sky and I see this early

420
00:25:49.400 --> 00:25:53.559
<v Speaker 1>in the morning. I see this. It looks like an egg,

421
00:25:54.319 --> 00:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>but it's made out of metal floating in the sky.

422
00:25:57.880 --> 00:26:00.359
<v Speaker 1>I grabbed my binoculars. I'm looking at that, at it,

423
00:26:01.000 --> 00:26:04.319
<v Speaker 1>and this thing is it's still. That's way way up

424
00:26:04.359 --> 00:26:06.799
<v Speaker 1>their stillson, you know, I mean, it's not moving. And

425
00:26:06.839 --> 00:26:12.079
<v Speaker 1>then it just starts real slowly glank like at a

426
00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:16.519
<v Speaker 1>forty five degree angle going up. It starts tumbling like

427
00:26:16.599 --> 00:26:20.480
<v Speaker 1>it's slowly rotating. And I'm thinking, my God, like other

428
00:26:20.519 --> 00:26:22.480
<v Speaker 1>people have got to see this, but you know who

429
00:26:22.559 --> 00:26:25.440
<v Speaker 1>knows if they did. So I sit there and my

430
00:26:25.559 --> 00:26:27.440
<v Speaker 1>next hurting, I try to like lay on the ground

431
00:26:27.440 --> 00:26:29.559
<v Speaker 1>almost to try to sit there and watch it, and

432
00:26:29.599 --> 00:26:33.079
<v Speaker 1>it just keeps going. It keeps tumbling and then it

433
00:26:33.160 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>kind of goes up up into the clouds a little bit,

434
00:26:35.920 --> 00:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>and then I see a flash of red. Wow, wow,

435
00:26:39.440 --> 00:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>the big flash, and then posts gone. I started every

436
00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 1>so often seeing what I called orbs. And it's hard

437
00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.000
<v Speaker 1>to explain because I use the word orbs. But there

438
00:26:50.079 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 1>was like two tights. There was what people call orbs

439
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that I would say were like like spiritual white little

440
00:26:58.440 --> 00:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>miniature clouds besides of like a pool table ball floating

441
00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:06.880
<v Speaker 1>through the sky. And their shapes would change sometimes it

442
00:27:07.039 --> 00:27:09.440
<v Speaker 1>was almost they were they had intelligence behind them, like

443
00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:11.759
<v Speaker 1>they could communicate. I'd be watching them through my binoculars

444
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and they could make themselves look like a square. They

445
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.160
<v Speaker 1>could kind of move up and down. I had one

446
00:27:18.279 --> 00:27:23.599
<v Speaker 1>one time that it had stretched itself into like two

447
00:27:23.759 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 1>eggs but attached in the middle and was spinning in

448
00:27:28.519 --> 00:27:31.039
<v Speaker 1>the sky. And it just sat there, spinning, and I

449
00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:33.079
<v Speaker 1>kept looking at it in the binoculars and I put

450
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.759
<v Speaker 1>my head down because my neck would hurt, and then

451
00:27:34.960 --> 00:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>look back up. Jesus, things just it's not leaving, it's

452
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:41.279
<v Speaker 1>just staying there. And then what also what I would

453
00:27:41.359 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 1>call orbs, but they weren't orbs. I just don't know

454
00:27:43.359 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>what else to call them. These things that were they

455
00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>were round and they produced light, but they were not

456
00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.559
<v Speaker 1>spiritual looking things. They were like metal. They're like a

457
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>metal ball, and they would come in different colors sometimes,

458
00:27:57.680 --> 00:28:00.279
<v Speaker 1>and I could see them, you know, shooting across they

459
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:01.920
<v Speaker 1>or if I was looking at something, I could see

460
00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.799
<v Speaker 1>them blast across the sky. Well, one time, when I

461
00:28:04.880 --> 00:28:07.000
<v Speaker 1>was at work, this is just shortly after I started

462
00:28:07.000 --> 00:28:11.039
<v Speaker 1>seeing these things, I was working outside and I saw

463
00:28:11.319 --> 00:28:14.640
<v Speaker 1>one of these, you know, orb looking I don't know,

464
00:28:14.680 --> 00:28:17.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're ghosts or something that looking things, And it

465
00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.720
<v Speaker 1>was massive, and I'm looking at that and I think,

466
00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:24.640
<v Speaker 1>is that is that a plastic bag that is drifting

467
00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.079
<v Speaker 1>in the wind. I mean, it's got it's huge. I

468
00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.039
<v Speaker 1>mean it's just a freaking trash bag, like a big one.

469
00:28:30.480 --> 00:28:33.200
<v Speaker 1>And this thing is stretching like a like a thick

470
00:28:33.240 --> 00:28:35.720
<v Speaker 1>cloud moving and it's just staying there like way up

471
00:28:35.720 --> 00:28:38.039
<v Speaker 1>in the sky, you know, but it's staying with me.

472
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:42.279
<v Speaker 1>And I just thought, God, this is this has got

473
00:28:42.319 --> 00:28:44.440
<v Speaker 1>to mean something, you know, this is just really too

474
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.119
<v Speaker 1>this is not normal, you know, so you know, I

475
00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:50.359
<v Speaker 1>just sort of made a note of it. It eventually

476
00:28:50.440 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 1>just drifted away, and another night this was the big one.

477
00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:59.559
<v Speaker 1>Once again. I go to my ex wife's house. Was

478
00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:01.440
<v Speaker 1>at night, I think she once again was out of town,

479
00:29:01.839 --> 00:29:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and I go in the backyard. I was checking on

480
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:08.519
<v Speaker 1>the animals. It was pure blackout, dark night time, and

481
00:29:08.599 --> 00:29:12.799
<v Speaker 1>I look in the sky and I see way way

482
00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:14.839
<v Speaker 1>of like you know, like you're looking into the stars.

483
00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I see this looks like a flame and it's getting closer.

484
00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 1>It's coming at like a downward forty five degree angle

485
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.039
<v Speaker 1>and it's like this fireball. And I think to myself, oh,

486
00:29:26.240 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a meteor or you know, it's something like that.

487
00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:31.359
<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't know what to think it is.

488
00:29:32.319 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 1>It's coming down, but then it looks like it's the

489
00:29:34.400 --> 00:29:36.839
<v Speaker 1>forty five degree angle. It's turning. It's almost like it's

490
00:29:36.839 --> 00:29:39.799
<v Speaker 1>trying to level out, and I think, oh man, this

491
00:29:39.920 --> 00:29:42.240
<v Speaker 1>is something. I got to get my binocular So I

492
00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>run to the car. I grabbed the binoculars. I come

493
00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:49.200
<v Speaker 1>back and I throw the binoculars up to look and

494
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.759
<v Speaker 1>it's whatever it was is no longer a fireball. You know,

495
00:29:52.799 --> 00:29:56.920
<v Speaker 1>this is amazing. It it turned into this. How do

496
00:29:57.000 --> 00:30:02.240
<v Speaker 1>I explain it? An arrow head crafts that's the size

497
00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of two or three football fields. So if you can

498
00:30:05.039 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 1>imagine a triangle shape, but an arrowhead has a the

499
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:15.440
<v Speaker 1>back end to it that sticks out. So that's that's

500
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:19.559
<v Speaker 1>what this object looks like. And on each corner there's

501
00:30:19.599 --> 00:30:24.960
<v Speaker 1>a circular white like light that's attached on each of

502
00:30:25.000 --> 00:30:30.599
<v Speaker 1>the corners, and they're lighting up and then dimming, and

503
00:30:30.640 --> 00:30:34.039
<v Speaker 1>then lighting up and then dimming. And this thing is

504
00:30:34.119 --> 00:30:37.799
<v Speaker 1>just gliding across the sky how almost how a jet

505
00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:41.759
<v Speaker 1>plane would be, just smoothest filt moving across the sky.

506
00:30:43.200 --> 00:30:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm watching it, and then on the back end of it,

507
00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 1>behind it, you can see like it looks like fireworks

508
00:30:51.519 --> 00:30:54.440
<v Speaker 1>on the back of it, the red fireworks that are

509
00:30:54.480 --> 00:30:59.119
<v Speaker 1>like crisscrossing in the sky. Some type of energy or something.

510
00:30:59.160 --> 00:31:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I can't even discribe what it is. And I'm just

511
00:31:02.160 --> 00:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>watching it and just you know, I'm thinking myself, God,

512
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>my god, other people must be seen this. It's going

513
00:31:06.799 --> 00:31:09.200
<v Speaker 1>to try to like go away at some point or something,

514
00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:13.440
<v Speaker 1>but it just casually just goes along its way till

515
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I can't see it anymore. I mean, chess blew my mind,

516
00:31:18.440 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 1>just amazing.

517
00:31:27.799 --> 00:31:31.359
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<v Speaker 1>So you can imagine, as I've progressed there with these stories,

525
00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.400
<v Speaker 1>it's just becoming, you know, more and more relevant all

526
00:32:08.400 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>these things. And as these things are happening in my life,

527
00:32:11.920 --> 00:32:16.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm still you know, watching videos, reading books, you know,

528
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:20.200
<v Speaker 1>trying to trying to learn things, you know, information gathering

529
00:32:20.400 --> 00:32:23.720
<v Speaker 1>other experiences that people have had. I ended up finding

530
00:32:23.799 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 1>on me, which is, you know, what some other people

531
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.559
<v Speaker 1>have described as a scoop mark, which is something on

532
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>you that on your skin that looks like if you

533
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:37.039
<v Speaker 1>were to take an ice cream scooper it would have

534
00:32:37.079 --> 00:32:40.319
<v Speaker 1>to be like a tiny, little miniature one and a

535
00:32:40.319 --> 00:32:43.319
<v Speaker 1>little scoop of your flesh is taken out and it

536
00:32:43.400 --> 00:32:46.759
<v Speaker 1>leaves a little tiny indentation, and then you know, a

537
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:49.000
<v Speaker 1>smooth over the top. I've seen it on other people,

538
00:32:49.799 --> 00:32:52.240
<v Speaker 1>and I remember when my mom had told me when

539
00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:54.359
<v Speaker 1>I was born that the doctor had said, oh, that's

540
00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 1>kind of odd that he whatever this is that he

541
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>has on him. You know, we never thought about it then,

542
00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.079
<v Speaker 1>but after I've heard from other abductees, I put two

543
00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>and two together, and sure enough, you know, that's that's

544
00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:07.680
<v Speaker 1>what it seemed like it was. You've had some other

545
00:33:08.039 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 1>people on the show that had also talked about this.

546
00:33:10.240 --> 00:33:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I have two very strange scars on my lower part

547
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>of my back. They are thin, They're probably each of

548
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.599
<v Speaker 1>them are two inches long, just paper thin and perfectly straight.

549
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where they came from, but I've always

550
00:33:27.480 --> 00:33:30.519
<v Speaker 1>had them there, and I have just horrible back pain.

551
00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>And I have heard that from other people, and I

552
00:33:33.960 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 1>kind of just kind of put two and two together

553
00:33:36.119 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>on it. So, you know, as all these things are

554
00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>collecting in my life, I came to a spot where

555
00:33:42.680 --> 00:33:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought, you know, I've heard many stories from other abductees.

556
00:33:46.440 --> 00:33:49.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, am I an abductee? You know? You know,

557
00:33:49.519 --> 00:33:51.839
<v Speaker 1>I have these things that have happened, but nothing is

558
00:33:52.480 --> 00:33:55.720
<v Speaker 1>really clear telling me that I'm a part of some thing.

559
00:33:55.799 --> 00:33:57.599
<v Speaker 1>I just you know, maybe I'm just some guide. It's

560
00:33:57.599 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>had some experiences so I make the decision to do

561
00:34:02.799 --> 00:34:07.160
<v Speaker 1>hypnosis because I'm thinking, you know, this could maybe open

562
00:34:07.200 --> 00:34:11.239
<v Speaker 1>my eyes to some things that maybe are hidden underneath

563
00:34:11.360 --> 00:34:13.599
<v Speaker 1>the surface and I just haven't gotten to them yet.

564
00:34:14.199 --> 00:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>I do some research and I find a pretty well

565
00:34:17.280 --> 00:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>known I'm not going to see their name, but a

566
00:34:19.480 --> 00:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>very well known hypnotherapist that does, you know, the stuff

567
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:28.639
<v Speaker 1>for abductees. And it was kind of strange because before

568
00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I even made the connection with this person, I started

569
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:34.320
<v Speaker 1>feeling very ill, and it was almost felt like something

570
00:34:34.360 --> 00:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>was trying to distract me from doing this. And I'll

571
00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:39.280
<v Speaker 1>get to why I'm telling you this. So I ended

572
00:34:39.320 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 1>up just talking to the person on the phone and

573
00:34:41.760 --> 00:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>not having a session, and we talked about my experiences

574
00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>and the things I'm telling you about, and they talk

575
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 1>about other things and tell me their stories that they've heard,

576
00:34:52.199 --> 00:34:56.039
<v Speaker 1>and we have a pretty long conversation about everything, and

577
00:34:56.119 --> 00:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I don't really take it any further than that. But

578
00:34:58.800 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 1>like I said, I was feeling it extremely ill prior

579
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>to connecting this is with this person, to the point

580
00:35:03.440 --> 00:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>where I almost felt like I needed to go to

581
00:35:05.440 --> 00:35:07.679
<v Speaker 1>the hospital to day before I actually made the phone

582
00:35:07.679 --> 00:35:10.599
<v Speaker 1>call to this person, and it felt like something was

583
00:35:10.639 --> 00:35:14.039
<v Speaker 1>trying to like stop me. So I felt like, if

584
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:16.519
<v Speaker 1>there is something out that they were just being mean

585
00:35:16.559 --> 00:35:18.639
<v Speaker 1>to me and trying to keep me from having my

586
00:35:19.519 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>experience that I felt like I deserved. But what ended

587
00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 1>up happening, this is really bizarre. I started having after

588
00:35:27.719 --> 00:35:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I had talked to this person. It probably was just

589
00:35:29.679 --> 00:35:33.239
<v Speaker 1>within a week or so, you know, going to work,

590
00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:39.199
<v Speaker 1>taking the dog for a walk, I started noticing helicopters

591
00:35:39.760 --> 00:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>and I thought, oh, no, no, no, no, this is silly.

592
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.119
<v Speaker 1>You know. I heard these stories about the helicopters and whatnot,

593
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:49.400
<v Speaker 1>and I don't even believe this stuff. So I didn't

594
00:35:49.440 --> 00:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>say anything about it to anybody, you know, even though

595
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>I noticed these things happening. So one day I'm that

596
00:35:57.119 --> 00:36:01.519
<v Speaker 1>way ex wife's house and it's the weekend or something.

597
00:36:01.719 --> 00:36:05.440
<v Speaker 1>She's on her back porch and she's having a glass

598
00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.320
<v Speaker 1>of wine or something, you know, just out in the

599
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:10.800
<v Speaker 1>backyard area. And I'm in her house and I'm washing

600
00:36:10.880 --> 00:36:12.440
<v Speaker 1>like a cup or something, and I can see her

601
00:36:12.519 --> 00:36:14.559
<v Speaker 1>through the window in the kitchen. It looked out to

602
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:17.920
<v Speaker 1>the backyard. She's sitting out there and I'm looking at her,

603
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:21.519
<v Speaker 1>and she says out loud. She goes Hey, I know

604
00:36:21.639 --> 00:36:25.039
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna sound weird, but I think there's a helicopter

605
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:28.920
<v Speaker 1>watching me and I about to do a back flip.

606
00:36:30.280 --> 00:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I go off, and I'm like what, she goes, Yeah,

607
00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm spending hereving wine, and it looks like going in

608
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:41.119
<v Speaker 1>a very large, like one mile round circle. This helicopter

609
00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:45.440
<v Speaker 1>keeps coming back to this position where it's in front

610
00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:47.440
<v Speaker 1>of me, you know, far far away, and it's just

611
00:36:47.519 --> 00:36:50.960
<v Speaker 1>sitting there, and then I'll do it again, and I think,

612
00:36:51.199 --> 00:36:55.320
<v Speaker 1>oh my goodness. So then I tell her my stories.

613
00:36:56.239 --> 00:36:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean I would be on a walk with my

614
00:36:58.199 --> 00:37:01.679
<v Speaker 1>dog and they would just go up. If I was

615
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:05.159
<v Speaker 1>trying to make contact in the backyard with you know,

616
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 1>with crafts or something looking with my binoculars, they would

617
00:37:08.519 --> 00:37:11.800
<v Speaker 1>come flying, you know, almost over the house and not

618
00:37:11.880 --> 00:37:14.159
<v Speaker 1>even try to hide themselves, just be obvious to stop

619
00:37:14.239 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>and let and look at me. I had one where

620
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:21.000
<v Speaker 1>I was in the back watering the lawns and I

621
00:37:21.039 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 1>could hear, very faintly, just this real slight, just this

622
00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>what's that noise?

623
00:37:28.199 --> 00:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>What is that?

624
00:37:29.679 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 1>And I look up and I see just this dot

625
00:37:33.480 --> 00:37:36.920
<v Speaker 1>straight above me in the sky, and I think I

626
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:39.159
<v Speaker 1>can't even see what this is. So I once again,

627
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.679
<v Speaker 1>I grabbed the binoculars and it's this help. I didn't

628
00:37:42.679 --> 00:37:44.760
<v Speaker 1>even know it was this this helicopter. I didn't even

629
00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 1>know helicopters should fly this high. This thing is so

630
00:37:48.599 --> 00:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>far up there, and it looks like this pretty high

631
00:37:51.199 --> 00:37:56.440
<v Speaker 1>text type helicopter and they're just sitting their stations. So,

632
00:37:57.159 --> 00:37:59.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, I put two and two together, and I think,

633
00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't understanding bad about the you know,

634
00:38:01.480 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 1>the hypnotherapist person, but either somebody was like tapping her phone,

635
00:38:07.199 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, or or something, and they thought that they

636
00:38:09.760 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 1>could kind of like catch up with me when I

637
00:38:13.199 --> 00:38:17.079
<v Speaker 1>was having an experience or something. Whoever they are, you know,

638
00:38:17.199 --> 00:38:19.119
<v Speaker 1>a three letter agency or something.

639
00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:19.920
<v Speaker 2>You know.

640
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>This continued for a little while, and then one day

641
00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:26.159
<v Speaker 1>it just stopped, and I actually tried back away from

642
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:29.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, going going out and using the binoculars and

643
00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:32.840
<v Speaker 1>looking for UFOs and stuff. I kind of like tried

644
00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:34.599
<v Speaker 1>to play dumb for a while and just you know,

645
00:38:34.719 --> 00:38:36.519
<v Speaker 1>step away from it was kind of freaking me out.

646
00:38:36.880 --> 00:38:40.599
<v Speaker 1>And that, you know, the helicopters that did eventually stop,

647
00:38:41.000 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>or at least I think it stopped unless they got

648
00:38:42.880 --> 00:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>more self but that those experiences ended So that was

649
00:38:47.000 --> 00:38:49.599
<v Speaker 1>really weird because I would hear stories from other people

650
00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 1>and think that they are just crazy or they are

651
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:56.280
<v Speaker 1>making it up, but no, it's real. So after that

652
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:59.239
<v Speaker 1>faded out, I got more comfortable with, you know, going in,

653
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:03.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, sitting out back and looking for stuff in

654
00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.719
<v Speaker 1>the sky. One day, I'm sitting back in the backyard

655
00:39:06.800 --> 00:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not having much luck looking for anything in

656
00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the sky, and I fall asleep, just sitting there in

657
00:39:13.320 --> 00:39:17.159
<v Speaker 1>my lounge chair, and I not I not off for

658
00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:21.039
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and I start hearing this noise like

659
00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>like a commercial airplane. Think, oh, okay, you know we

660
00:39:24.840 --> 00:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>have planes that fly over the house. I look up

661
00:39:27.960 --> 00:39:32.519
<v Speaker 1>enough in the sky, is this all white commercial plane?

662
00:39:32.599 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Big plane that has no markings on it. The windows

663
00:39:36.960 --> 00:39:41.119
<v Speaker 1>look like they're kind of like, uh, fogged out. You know.

664
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:44.119
<v Speaker 1>There's no numbers, there's no brand, there's no stripe, it's

665
00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:49.239
<v Speaker 1>just white. And on each wing there's smoke coming off

666
00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the wings. And this thing flies directly over me and

667
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:56.800
<v Speaker 1>just you know, keeps going and goes off and it

668
00:39:56.920 --> 00:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>leaves this trail of the smoke that stays stays in

669
00:40:00.480 --> 00:40:03.159
<v Speaker 1>the sky for a long time. I think, kind of

670
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.599
<v Speaker 1>stuffing out it's kind of weird. This is not you know,

671
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm looking the sky all the time. I see commercial

672
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:11.079
<v Speaker 1>planes as not normal. So then that night goes by

673
00:40:11.880 --> 00:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>next day, next the next evening. In the evening, I'm

674
00:40:15.079 --> 00:40:17.239
<v Speaker 1>going to my house, I just come back from somewhere.

675
00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:19.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm taking the keys that I'm off the door to

676
00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:23.800
<v Speaker 1>night time, and I hear that sound again and I think, oh,

677
00:40:23.880 --> 00:40:27.199
<v Speaker 1>then just sounds like another commercial plane. Say look, and

678
00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.559
<v Speaker 1>it's dark out, it's night. I see this white commercial

679
00:40:30.599 --> 00:40:34.440
<v Speaker 1>plane again. That's the same thing, comes straight over me.

680
00:40:34.519 --> 00:40:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It's really high in the sky this time, and it's

681
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:41.760
<v Speaker 1>got smoke coming off of each wing. Goes directly over

682
00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:46.000
<v Speaker 1>me and continues on same plane like no markings on it. No,

683
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's just too obvious that it is the

684
00:40:48.079 --> 00:40:51.519
<v Speaker 1>same thing. And I think for myself, gosh, you know,

685
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know why I'm feeling this way,

686
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:58.440
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it's a message. And I think

687
00:40:58.519 --> 00:41:00.639
<v Speaker 1>the message is something to do with what we would

688
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:04.599
<v Speaker 1>call chemtrails. And I, you know, I can only make assumptions.

689
00:41:04.639 --> 00:41:07.119
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I don't know why that there this

690
00:41:07.280 --> 00:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>is being you know, brought to my attention. But there's

691
00:41:09.960 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>something there with that. You know, I have my my

692
00:41:13.519 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 1>views on it, but I won't get all into that

693
00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:18.719
<v Speaker 1>right now. But definitely felt like somebody was trying to

694
00:41:18.760 --> 00:41:22.199
<v Speaker 1>tell me something. So the orbs that I would see

695
00:41:22.400 --> 00:41:24.400
<v Speaker 1>once in a while, like I said, some of those,

696
00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:27.079
<v Speaker 1>not the ghostly looking arms, with just the regular metal

697
00:41:27.199 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 1>looking orbs, they would come, and sometimes they would come

698
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.159
<v Speaker 1>in different colors. There was like a few different colors

699
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:36.880
<v Speaker 1>that whatever was lighting them up, they would be kind

700
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:38.679
<v Speaker 1>of glowing in that color, you know, whether it be

701
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.400
<v Speaker 1>like red or blue or you know, like a yellowish,

702
00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:45.920
<v Speaker 1>you know color. And how I thought of this, I

703
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know, but I thought, I wonder if I can

704
00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>communicate a question and say, you know, if this question

705
00:41:57.199 --> 00:42:01.079
<v Speaker 1>is white, you know, whatever I'm asking, send me one

706
00:42:01.119 --> 00:42:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of those orbs in that color. And then and then,

707
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:05.880
<v Speaker 1>as you know, if I'm wrong and you just don't

708
00:42:05.920 --> 00:42:09.280
<v Speaker 1>do anything. And I kept trying to do it for

709
00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 1>a while, and eventually it worked and I got to

710
00:42:12.880 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>where I was. Every so often I would think of

711
00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 1>just a real, you know, simple question, and then get

712
00:42:19.719 --> 00:42:23.000
<v Speaker 1>my binoculars and look up into the sky and look

713
00:42:23.079 --> 00:42:25.320
<v Speaker 1>to see if they would, you know, answer my questions,

714
00:42:26.360 --> 00:42:28.559
<v Speaker 1>and so I'll tell you a few of the things

715
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:31.159
<v Speaker 1>that you know, this took months to do this because

716
00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:32.800
<v Speaker 1>sometimes if I had asked the question, it would take

717
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:35.559
<v Speaker 1>days for them to come. These are some of the

718
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.519
<v Speaker 1>questions I asked and and God a reply. So I

719
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 1>had asked questions about, you know, because at this point

720
00:42:41.239 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I was wondering if I was an abductee. And you know,

721
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.400
<v Speaker 1>you can call people abductees or experiences or contact ease

722
00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:52.079
<v Speaker 1>whatever what all this is. And the replies I got were,

723
00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:58.960
<v Speaker 1>an abductee is not from Earth. Abductees are from neighboring planets.

724
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And you hear sometimes people talking about this, you know,

725
00:43:02.960 --> 00:43:06.000
<v Speaker 1>if abductees will say that the beings would tell them

726
00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:09.840
<v Speaker 1>that they're they're from the Pleiades, or they're from O'Ryan

727
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:13.239
<v Speaker 1>or serious. And I don't know why they don't take

728
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.800
<v Speaker 1>them more serious when they're told this, but that's what

729
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>I was told, and that abductees weren't invited or volunteered

730
00:43:23.159 --> 00:43:27.119
<v Speaker 1>to come here and to help with what they call

731
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:33.039
<v Speaker 1>the change, and as well to help with providing you know,

732
00:43:33.159 --> 00:43:37.320
<v Speaker 1>women would help to provide with with eggs and men

733
00:43:37.679 --> 00:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>for sexual fluids for you know, creating children, and as

734
00:43:43.519 --> 00:43:48.360
<v Speaker 1>well abductees were here to like learn about human culture

735
00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:51.159
<v Speaker 1>and just the whole you know, just the way of

736
00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 1>life here. And so I had asked, you know, various

737
00:43:55.320 --> 00:43:57.559
<v Speaker 1>questions on that subject. You know, some people probably already

738
00:43:57.599 --> 00:44:00.400
<v Speaker 1>know about these things. And then I even got into

739
00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>I had asked a few questions about Bigfoot or sasquatch,

740
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want to call it. This is what I

741
00:44:08.639 --> 00:44:11.519
<v Speaker 1>got out of it. This is very interesting. Bigfoot is

742
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:16.920
<v Speaker 1>not from this planet. Bigfoot is brought here by the aliens,

743
00:44:17.840 --> 00:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and it is used as like a helper or something.

744
00:44:20.920 --> 00:44:23.400
<v Speaker 1>It can look out, you know, because they're so healthy

745
00:44:23.440 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>and so agile, they can you know, cone to the forests,

746
00:44:27.079 --> 00:44:29.440
<v Speaker 1>and you know, they can use it as a way

747
00:44:29.559 --> 00:44:33.519
<v Speaker 1>to have oh the check on the environment. You know, actually,

748
00:44:33.519 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it actually check on the health of the

749
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:38.679
<v Speaker 1>environment and you know, checking out rivers, streams, the animals,

750
00:44:38.840 --> 00:44:43.039
<v Speaker 1>all all various things. And is even used to scare

751
00:44:43.199 --> 00:44:48.760
<v Speaker 1>the heck out of abduct these slash experiencers. And I thought,

752
00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, I asked, why, you know, why would you

753
00:44:51.119 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>want to scare the abductees, And I guess it's to

754
00:44:56.639 --> 00:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>help them to accept who they are and to start

755
00:45:01.559 --> 00:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>opening their eyes to who they are, you know, because

756
00:45:05.280 --> 00:45:08.360
<v Speaker 1>it's such an extreme, strange experience that kind of starts

757
00:45:08.400 --> 00:45:11.559
<v Speaker 1>sending you down this path that I got sent down

758
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:15.239
<v Speaker 1>with my friend's death, and so they can use it

759
00:45:15.480 --> 00:45:19.679
<v Speaker 1>for that purpose, So hopefully that makes sense. And then

760
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:23.519
<v Speaker 1>other things that I had learned were when you talk

761
00:45:23.559 --> 00:45:28.880
<v Speaker 1>about the grays, they're black eyes that people always talk

762
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:32.519
<v Speaker 1>about those those aren't their eyes. Those are lenses. They're

763
00:45:32.639 --> 00:45:37.239
<v Speaker 1>like sunglasses. It's a thing that suction cuts over their

764
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 1>actual eyes that protects their eyes. They have trouble being

765
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:45.760
<v Speaker 1>in extreme light lit areas, and as well, these lenses

766
00:45:45.880 --> 00:45:48.320
<v Speaker 1>can do, you know, probably things that we don't understand,

767
00:45:48.719 --> 00:45:50.880
<v Speaker 1>as well as like you know, night vision and other

768
00:45:50.960 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 1>types of things. And I know this response that they

769
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:56.360
<v Speaker 1>gave me to be true because when I looked into

770
00:45:56.400 --> 00:46:00.159
<v Speaker 1>the Travis Walton case, he had said that when he

771
00:46:00.239 --> 00:46:02.360
<v Speaker 1>had gotten off the table and it had this experience

772
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.199
<v Speaker 1>with the grays, they just had regular eyes. They had

773
00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:09.119
<v Speaker 1>big eyes, and the pupil was kind of like you know,

774
00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:11.800
<v Speaker 1>cat eye shapes, but they didn't have black eyes. And

775
00:46:11.920 --> 00:46:14.320
<v Speaker 1>other people have said the same thing. But like Travis

776
00:46:14.480 --> 00:46:18.400
<v Speaker 1>said that that the lighting was kind of dim and

777
00:46:19.360 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, wasn't you know, a little well lit. So

778
00:46:23.280 --> 00:46:26.400
<v Speaker 1>when people talk about these black eyes that it is

779
00:46:26.519 --> 00:46:28.760
<v Speaker 1>not what people think this it is that is not

780
00:46:28.880 --> 00:46:32.079
<v Speaker 1>their eyeball other things that they had told me. I know,

781
00:46:32.199 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I hear people talking about the tall blondes or the Nordic.

782
00:46:35.840 --> 00:46:40.679
<v Speaker 1>They are hybrids. They're not some creature from another planet

783
00:46:40.840 --> 00:46:43.320
<v Speaker 1>with a whole race of them that are coming. I

784
00:46:43.360 --> 00:46:45.920
<v Speaker 1>think there was a guy that wrote a book on it. Now,

785
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they're hybrids. They as they're doing the hybridization process with people,

786
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the stages that we go through is almost like evolution,

787
00:46:56.840 --> 00:47:01.559
<v Speaker 1>as they're adding alien DNA to human DNA. If you

788
00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 1>you know, say, if you started at point one and

789
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.599
<v Speaker 1>point ten is a mantis being or one of the grays,

790
00:47:09.800 --> 00:47:12.519
<v Speaker 1>you start out as like a caveman to a person,

791
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, like the hybrid type. And then as it

792
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.360
<v Speaker 1>progresses forward, people say that the beings kind of look

793
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>like a tall blonde or a Nordic, and then more

794
00:47:24.000 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 1>alien DNA they kind of look like what people would

795
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:28.800
<v Speaker 1>call cat people. I know people have said, oh, they

796
00:47:28.840 --> 00:47:31.880
<v Speaker 1>look like cat people, and it's just because the nose

797
00:47:32.760 --> 00:47:34.800
<v Speaker 1>is starting to fade out and the mouth is becoming

798
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.599
<v Speaker 1>more like a split and the eyes are kind of

799
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>getting larger and maybe a little bit more and so

800
00:47:40.480 --> 00:47:43.480
<v Speaker 1>they have that impression of cat like and then as

801
00:47:43.599 --> 00:47:45.760
<v Speaker 1>there's more DNA added to the next day, it would

802
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:50.159
<v Speaker 1>be someone that's like a tall gray and then probably,

803
00:47:50.280 --> 00:47:52.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, this is just my speculation, something more like

804
00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:57.079
<v Speaker 1>a mantis type creature, almost something similar to like what

805
00:47:58.159 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 1>Barney and Betty experienced. I know, she like a trick

806
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:03.559
<v Speaker 1>play cask of one of them. So that's that's what

807
00:48:03.639 --> 00:48:05.559
<v Speaker 1>I got out of them. Out of that, those are

808
00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:09.719
<v Speaker 1>like the stages of the changes. Oh. Men in black. Yeah,

809
00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 1>this is a subject that I hear people talking about

810
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:14.760
<v Speaker 1>all the time too. They didn't tell me this, but

811
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.000
<v Speaker 1>this is my personal opinion from what I've gathered out

812
00:48:18.000 --> 00:48:21.559
<v Speaker 1>of everything. The men in black from what I you know,

813
00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:25.320
<v Speaker 1>from stories and things I've put together, they are some

814
00:48:25.760 --> 00:48:30.480
<v Speaker 1>type of a worker bee for some higher up being

815
00:48:31.159 --> 00:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>that's sort of regulating overseeing what is going on here.

816
00:48:36.320 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 1>As far as you know, what I'm calling the change,

817
00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:41.840
<v Speaker 1>it's almost like they show up when something happens and

818
00:48:41.920 --> 00:48:44.119
<v Speaker 1>they make sure that things don't get too far out

819
00:48:44.159 --> 00:48:47.519
<v Speaker 1>of hands. And you know, people say they show up

820
00:48:47.559 --> 00:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>in suit and tie, and it's always in black, and

821
00:48:51.000 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 1>it's always something like a vintage almost type style. So

822
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.679
<v Speaker 1>be in a black car and it's like a Cadillac

823
00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:01.320
<v Speaker 1>from the nineteen fifties or something, you know. And people

824
00:49:01.400 --> 00:49:04.159
<v Speaker 1>say that sometimes the men are kind of tall, thin

825
00:49:04.239 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 1>and just look kind of odd, you know, I mean,

826
00:49:07.480 --> 00:49:10.519
<v Speaker 1>our three letter agencies. They aren't going to do something

827
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:13.599
<v Speaker 1>silly like that that. This is just something that totally

828
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>fits with how they do things. So I've heard other

829
00:49:16.039 --> 00:49:19.119
<v Speaker 1>people talk about seeing the beings on the craft and

830
00:49:19.159 --> 00:49:21.599
<v Speaker 1>when they see them in clothing sometimes it would almost

831
00:49:21.639 --> 00:49:25.119
<v Speaker 1>look they're wearing something from the cowboy type age. Is

832
00:49:25.159 --> 00:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>something that's just completely outdated, misstated, and so to me

833
00:49:31.039 --> 00:49:32.800
<v Speaker 1>that just kind of fits with that. But like I said,

834
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>that's just my opinion. And there is no evil aliens

835
00:49:37.239 --> 00:49:41.800
<v Speaker 1>or an alien war, or aliens coming here that are

836
00:49:41.960 --> 00:49:45.719
<v Speaker 1>in search of gold, or the aliens are dying and

837
00:49:45.800 --> 00:49:48.840
<v Speaker 1>they need our DNA to save their race, Aliens wanting

838
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.519
<v Speaker 1>to take over the earth, none of that. Those are

839
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.599
<v Speaker 1>just stories you know, from I from I've gathered from

840
00:49:54.639 --> 00:49:56.960
<v Speaker 1>them and then my research combined with what I've gathered

841
00:49:57.000 --> 00:49:59.800
<v Speaker 1>from them. None of that stuff. No, it just doesn't

842
00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:03.000
<v Speaker 1>make sense. And let's see, like one of my final

843
00:50:03.119 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 1>things on this topic that I had figured out was

844
00:50:06.599 --> 00:50:10.199
<v Speaker 1>count mutilations and from what I gathered from them, and

845
00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:15.079
<v Speaker 1>you know what I've put together for myself, it's something

846
00:50:15.239 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to do with our health because we eat meat and

847
00:50:18.559 --> 00:50:20.800
<v Speaker 1>we drink milk, and you know, cows are a big

848
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:24.360
<v Speaker 1>part of society as far as in food. They are

849
00:50:24.519 --> 00:50:27.840
<v Speaker 1>taking these cows and they're testing them and they can

850
00:50:27.960 --> 00:50:30.960
<v Speaker 1>find out through the cows stages of what the planet

851
00:50:31.079 --> 00:50:33.840
<v Speaker 1>is going through as far as the health of the planet,

852
00:50:33.920 --> 00:50:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, and you know there's always that saying you

853
00:50:35.880 --> 00:50:38.039
<v Speaker 1>are what you eat. You know, I know I know

854
00:50:38.199 --> 00:50:40.880
<v Speaker 1>this to be true. But beyond that, my opinion is

855
00:50:41.519 --> 00:50:44.159
<v Speaker 1>because people say, well they have they look like they've

856
00:50:44.159 --> 00:50:47.719
<v Speaker 1>been mutilated. I think that some of these, like laser

857
00:50:47.840 --> 00:50:51.880
<v Speaker 1>line cuts on the cows and the precisionry, it's to

858
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:56.760
<v Speaker 1>leave that question in people, for them to look at

859
00:50:56.840 --> 00:50:59.239
<v Speaker 1>it and make a conversation about it and say this

860
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:04.599
<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense to create a form of disclosure, but

861
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.079
<v Speaker 1>leave that question mark there. You know. That's what I

862
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:11.039
<v Speaker 1>gather from it. So I know that one of the

863
00:51:11.079 --> 00:51:13.280
<v Speaker 1>things that they have tried to really explain is that

864
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, people take their life so seriously. This is

865
00:51:16.400 --> 00:51:18.119
<v Speaker 1>just the end of the road. And I really have

866
00:51:18.199 --> 00:51:20.639
<v Speaker 1>experienced that with my parents. This is what I've gathered

867
00:51:20.639 --> 00:51:22.320
<v Speaker 1>from them, and I really want people to pay attention

868
00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to this. Living your life is like going to school.

869
00:51:25.599 --> 00:51:29.239
<v Speaker 1>This is school time, and then when you die, that

870
00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.400
<v Speaker 1>is home. What I've gathered from what they've explained to me.

871
00:51:32.880 --> 00:51:36.199
<v Speaker 1>The soul goes home after it's gone to school basically,

872
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:41.199
<v Speaker 1>and death, the soul goes home. And your time here

873
00:51:41.480 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 1>is education time, and it's not your you know, your

874
00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.519
<v Speaker 1>final destination, and it isn't all that you have. And

875
00:51:47.599 --> 00:51:50.559
<v Speaker 1>you're going to go to school many many times. As

876
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>your soul grows and strengthens and becomes more capable, you're

877
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.679
<v Speaker 1>learning is or experiences, and you let go of say

878
00:51:58.760 --> 00:52:01.599
<v Speaker 1>you've had a million experiences, you have all these memories,

879
00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 1>You let go of that, all of that for that

880
00:52:03.199 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 1>time being that you hear so you can focus on

881
00:52:05.840 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 1>your now time experience and then you take that back

882
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:12.280
<v Speaker 1>with you and add that to all the other experiences

883
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.239
<v Speaker 1>that you've had. But death is not the ending. Death

884
00:52:15.320 --> 00:52:19.239
<v Speaker 1>is nothing near to that. It's a much larger picture.

885
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:22.840
<v Speaker 1>It is who you are your soul is who you are.

886
00:52:23.440 --> 00:52:26.840
<v Speaker 1>Your body is merely a container. If you were driving

887
00:52:26.960 --> 00:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>a car, the car is the container and you're driving

888
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 1>the car. That's basically what it is. You know. I

889
00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:36.760
<v Speaker 1>really want to, you know, emphasize that because growing up

890
00:52:36.920 --> 00:52:39.760
<v Speaker 1>with how I experience things that I did not see

891
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:42.559
<v Speaker 1>anything that way, and it can be very depressing to

892
00:52:42.639 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 1>see things as so final. That's not how things are.

893
00:52:46.480 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 1>I know this to be true with everything I've experienced,

894
00:52:49.519 --> 00:52:52.119
<v Speaker 1>and so to get to you know, I'm getting closer

895
00:52:52.159 --> 00:52:55.000
<v Speaker 1>to the bigger picture here, and you know, what all

896
00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:58.199
<v Speaker 1>this adds up to in the end is the point

897
00:52:58.280 --> 00:53:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of this soul of them coming here, of abductees and

898
00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 1>the hybrids and the whole big picture. What I've gathered

899
00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 1>from them and what they've explained and I've learned from

900
00:53:07.760 --> 00:53:12.960
<v Speaker 1>other abductees and my experiences, is that human beings are

901
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:15.639
<v Speaker 1>like the people have the saying of the kids have

902
00:53:15.760 --> 00:53:21.239
<v Speaker 1>found the matches. Humans have discovered nuclear energy can blow

903
00:53:21.360 --> 00:53:25.039
<v Speaker 1>up this planet. Have had you know, we've dropped the bombs,

904
00:53:25.599 --> 00:53:30.960
<v Speaker 1>We've tested nuclear weapons. This is hard to believe that

905
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>this is this is a fact. Almost two thousand times

906
00:53:34.000 --> 00:53:37.280
<v Speaker 1>we've lit off a nuclear weapons for testing, whether it

907
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:41.239
<v Speaker 1>be in the ocean, underground, above grounds, you know, wherever.

908
00:53:41.880 --> 00:53:45.599
<v Speaker 1>And from what I gathered from these beings that caused

909
00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:51.280
<v Speaker 1>serious damage, irreversible damage, they were given literally no choice

910
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:53.960
<v Speaker 1>but to come here. And from what I've gathered from them,

911
00:53:54.440 --> 00:53:59.880
<v Speaker 1>the abductees that are from neighboring planets, you know, serious pleated.

912
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:04.159
<v Speaker 1>They've treated some type of link between them and Earth,

913
00:54:04.239 --> 00:54:07.320
<v Speaker 1>whether it be portals or wormholes or whatever it is.

914
00:54:08.360 --> 00:54:11.880
<v Speaker 1>And if we destroy Earth, it can be like a

915
00:54:12.000 --> 00:54:16.280
<v Speaker 1>domino effect, like a chain reaction and do serious damage

916
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.360
<v Speaker 1>to them. And so coming here and trying to help

917
00:54:19.519 --> 00:54:22.159
<v Speaker 1>humans and bance and change their ways and become more

918
00:54:22.199 --> 00:54:25.760
<v Speaker 1>people is for selfish reasons as well, because they don't

919
00:54:25.800 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 1>want to see you know, their own place, you know, destroyed,

920
00:54:29.480 --> 00:54:31.079
<v Speaker 1>you know. And on top of the fact that you know,

921
00:54:31.159 --> 00:54:33.960
<v Speaker 1>with us creating you know, pollution and toxic waste, and

922
00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:36.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, all all the things that we have done.

923
00:54:37.599 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 1>And I think that people, you know, even people that

924
00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:44.679
<v Speaker 1>kind of understand this stuff, they don't understand that. Just

925
00:54:44.760 --> 00:54:47.079
<v Speaker 1>like what I was talking about about life being a

926
00:54:47.239 --> 00:54:51.280
<v Speaker 1>school and death being where you go your soul's destination.

927
00:54:51.920 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 1>My personal opinion, they didn't they didn't tell me this,

928
00:54:54.039 --> 00:54:56.360
<v Speaker 1>but you know, here we live on Earth in the

929
00:54:56.440 --> 00:55:01.280
<v Speaker 1>three dimensional world, and the soul world lean up against

930
00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:05.199
<v Speaker 1>that three dimensional world. The two are basically, you know,

931
00:55:05.360 --> 00:55:07.760
<v Speaker 1>two cars get the cards leaning on each other, and

932
00:55:07.840 --> 00:55:11.039
<v Speaker 1>if you damage one, the other one falls over. We

933
00:55:11.199 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 1>have these two worlds that are leaning on each other

934
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:17.440
<v Speaker 1>that we bounce back and forth from. If we destroy

935
00:55:17.559 --> 00:55:21.599
<v Speaker 1>this planet, we destroy both those worlds and leave ourselves

936
00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:25.159
<v Speaker 1>completely homeless and as well as we could do the

937
00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>same to the others. And so that leaves them no

938
00:55:28.920 --> 00:55:32.360
<v Speaker 1>choice but to step in and come up with an

939
00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:36.119
<v Speaker 1>idea of what they call the change. And I'll try

940
00:55:36.159 --> 00:55:38.639
<v Speaker 1>to explain that as best as I can. So what

941
00:55:38.800 --> 00:55:42.480
<v Speaker 1>they call the change is there's some type of rule.

942
00:55:42.880 --> 00:55:45.639
<v Speaker 1>Apparently there's some type of beings that are above them

943
00:55:45.920 --> 00:55:48.679
<v Speaker 1>that create the rules for them. And it's a little

944
00:55:48.679 --> 00:55:50.840
<v Speaker 1>bit of a mystery to the aliens to what even

945
00:55:50.920 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 1>they are, like how we feel like the aliens are

946
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:55.679
<v Speaker 1>a mystery to us. But they know enough to know

947
00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:58.519
<v Speaker 1>that there's rules and they're not to mess with the humans.

948
00:55:58.519 --> 00:56:01.480
<v Speaker 1>They're not to step on the path that the humans

949
00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:04.760
<v Speaker 1>are going on. So the beings have devised its way

950
00:56:04.840 --> 00:56:08.639
<v Speaker 1>to send out a message into the galaxy to bring

951
00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:13.079
<v Speaker 1>aliens in to come here as humans and to work

952
00:56:13.199 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 1>on repairing this, you know, to get people humans on

953
00:56:17.320 --> 00:56:20.559
<v Speaker 1>the right track. And part of that is hybrid which

954
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:25.559
<v Speaker 1>is on crafts are hybrids that are human looking. It's

955
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the new future human body, and they're learning on craft

956
00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:33.920
<v Speaker 1>about you know, alien life and somewhat of human culture.

957
00:56:34.360 --> 00:56:36.920
<v Speaker 1>And then the abductees are here on Earth, you know,

958
00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>like myself or other abductees, living human life and living

959
00:56:40.880 --> 00:56:45.440
<v Speaker 1>human culture. And I think there's more and more abductees

960
00:56:46.000 --> 00:56:48.719
<v Speaker 1>being born coming here each state to where my personal

961
00:56:48.800 --> 00:56:51.760
<v Speaker 1>opinion is there might even be more abductees than there

962
00:56:51.880 --> 00:56:56.880
<v Speaker 1>is humans. And so as the change comes, which is

963
00:56:57.000 --> 00:57:03.320
<v Speaker 1>also incorporated with disclosure, but what people call disclosure, from

964
00:57:03.400 --> 00:57:08.800
<v Speaker 1>what I understand, is just abductees waking up to the change,

965
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:13.239
<v Speaker 1>remembering what they were here for, why they're here, and

966
00:57:13.320 --> 00:57:18.880
<v Speaker 1>what the mission is. And eventually, as hybrids come to

967
00:57:19.599 --> 00:57:25.800
<v Speaker 1>being here on Earth, abductees and hybrids will come together

968
00:57:26.000 --> 00:57:31.119
<v Speaker 1>and have children, and those children will be hybrids but

969
00:57:31.280 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 1>will be human. Souls will be born into the hybrids,

970
00:57:36.679 --> 00:57:40.400
<v Speaker 1>and those abductees and you know, alien abductees will raise

971
00:57:40.440 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 1>those children and teach them just like a parent does,

972
00:57:44.119 --> 00:57:48.480
<v Speaker 1>but will teach them the new ways, the new peaceful ways,

973
00:57:48.920 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>and to learn how to use these new abilities that

974
00:57:51.039 --> 00:57:53.280
<v Speaker 1>they have, which would be not like one of the

975
00:57:53.320 --> 00:57:56.679
<v Speaker 1>grays or the magazines, but like a basic form of telepathy.

976
00:57:57.360 --> 00:58:00.519
<v Speaker 1>And with this telepathy is going to will bring on

977
00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 1>other much larger things. Oh and as well, everything's going

978
00:58:04.519 --> 00:58:06.559
<v Speaker 1>to change. That planet is going to move into a

979
00:58:06.679 --> 00:58:11.000
<v Speaker 1>much higher vibration where the animals as well are going

980
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.840
<v Speaker 1>to be hybrids. Different plants are going to be introduced.

981
00:58:14.239 --> 00:58:18.079
<v Speaker 1>The humans will be taught that all things are energy.

982
00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:22.840
<v Speaker 1>That people, plants, animals, we are all a part of

983
00:58:22.880 --> 00:58:27.679
<v Speaker 1>this energy and all linked together, and we like that

984
00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 1>bond that you have creates this incredible energy, this strength,

985
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and unites us with the universe and makes us a

986
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:41.079
<v Speaker 1>part of the universe instead of so isolated. And I

987
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.039
<v Speaker 1>really truly believe that from when I'm gathering from them,

988
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.599
<v Speaker 1>that they're going to teach people this and hopefully, you know,

989
00:58:47.679 --> 00:58:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the goal is that with that knowledge and with that information,

990
00:58:52.880 --> 00:58:56.559
<v Speaker 1>it'll make people more peaceful. They'll see the bigger picture

991
00:58:57.039 --> 00:59:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and'll be taught ways to do things with more logic

992
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:04.760
<v Speaker 1>as far as you know, transportation and pollution and different things.

993
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:08.079
<v Speaker 1>You know. The final goal would be, too, when I

994
00:59:08.159 --> 00:59:12.079
<v Speaker 1>gathered from them, is for humans to join with the

995
00:59:12.199 --> 00:59:15.039
<v Speaker 1>Milky Way galaxies. What would you call it, like, you know,

996
00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:18.159
<v Speaker 1>the galactic you know federation almost kind of like you know,

997
00:59:18.360 --> 00:59:23.039
<v Speaker 1>saying where everybody is knows of each other and is united. Now,

998
00:59:23.079 --> 00:59:25.960
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to happen tomorrow, but over time the

999
00:59:26.000 --> 00:59:28.079
<v Speaker 1>planets will come together, and you know, the goal would

1000
00:59:28.079 --> 00:59:30.440
<v Speaker 1>be for the for all the planets to be united

1001
00:59:30.519 --> 00:59:33.159
<v Speaker 1>as one, to be a part of this much larger picture.

1002
00:59:33.800 --> 00:59:36.000
<v Speaker 1>And beyond that, I don't know what's going on with it.

1003
00:59:36.559 --> 00:59:38.920
<v Speaker 1>So that's how that all stands as far as my

1004
00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:40.679
<v Speaker 1>opinion and what information I've gathered.

1005
00:59:47.719 --> 00:59:50.760
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<v Speaker 1>Now the close of all this, I haven't talked a

1014
01:00:26.320 --> 01:00:28.519
<v Speaker 1>whole lot about myself and where I fit into all

1015
01:00:28.599 --> 01:00:31.480
<v Speaker 1>this and what I have learned. And they've told me this,

1016
01:00:31.760 --> 01:00:35.960
<v Speaker 1>this is coming from their mouths. There's different types of abductees.

1017
01:00:36.400 --> 01:00:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I know it too, but there may be more the

1018
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:43.159
<v Speaker 1>abductees that are from neighboring planets. And I thought, when

1019
01:00:43.199 --> 01:00:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I was going through all learning all this, I thought, oh, hey,

1020
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I'm probably from the Pleiades or something,

1021
01:00:48.159 --> 01:00:50.880
<v Speaker 1>and oh, how neat is all that you know? And

1022
01:00:51.000 --> 01:00:52.800
<v Speaker 1>so when I got to ask them questions and them

1023
01:00:52.880 --> 01:00:55.519
<v Speaker 1>sending me things to try to respond, They're like, no,

1024
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not from here. You're not from the most of

1025
01:00:57.960 --> 01:01:01.519
<v Speaker 1>Way galaxy. I thought, what And so what I'd gathered

1026
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:04.719
<v Speaker 1>from them is that me and others that I have

1027
01:01:05.239 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 1>met are from a completely different galaxy and have come

1028
01:01:09.719 --> 01:01:13.639
<v Speaker 1>as a guest to participate in this, and that since

1029
01:01:13.719 --> 01:01:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not and others like me aren't from here, obviously

1030
01:01:17.559 --> 01:01:21.079
<v Speaker 1>I won't be part of the bigger picture of uniting

1031
01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 1>with the galaxy. You know, maybe we'll get the Way

1032
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:26.239
<v Speaker 1>galaxy because I'm not from this galaxy. So I wouldn't

1033
01:01:26.280 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 1>be a part of the longer standing process. And I

1034
01:01:30.920 --> 01:01:34.760
<v Speaker 1>know this because I have seen, you know, abductees that

1035
01:01:34.880 --> 01:01:38.000
<v Speaker 1>tell stories about how the beings that said, oh you're

1036
01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 1>from the pleats and you know this net, and they

1037
01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.679
<v Speaker 1>seem to almost baby them, you know, help them get

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01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:46.039
<v Speaker 1>through steps in life and whatnot stuff. And I've always

1039
01:01:46.039 --> 01:01:47.800
<v Speaker 1>said to myself, my god, nobody's ever helped me in

1040
01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:50.840
<v Speaker 1>my life's spent a nightmare. It's nothing but worse. Well,

1041
01:01:50.840 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it's because I'm not It's not to their advantage to

1042
01:01:52.800 --> 01:01:56.159
<v Speaker 1>help me. I'm just a guest. And by helping the

1043
01:01:56.199 --> 01:01:58.280
<v Speaker 1>other adductees it helps the bigger picture of what their

1044
01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:00.239
<v Speaker 1>plan is, to make sure they're successful in life and

1045
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.960
<v Speaker 1>make sure they don't you know, accidentally freaking hurt themselves

1046
01:02:03.079 --> 01:02:07.000
<v Speaker 1>or different things. But with me, it's like he, you know,

1047
01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:09.599
<v Speaker 1>he's just a guest. And I've asked them, you know,

1048
01:02:09.760 --> 01:02:12.519
<v Speaker 1>are you guys not helping me because I'm an outsider,

1049
01:02:12.800 --> 01:02:16.559
<v Speaker 1>and they have said yes and no, So there's there's

1050
01:02:16.599 --> 01:02:19.079
<v Speaker 1>something more to it. But I've always had that feeling,

1051
01:02:19.719 --> 01:02:23.119
<v Speaker 1>you know, just an outsider looking in basically, and I've

1052
01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 1>met others that that are like me and for me

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01:02:26.119 --> 01:02:28.320
<v Speaker 1>to even have gathered as much information as I have

1054
01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:32.280
<v Speaker 1>as odd for the type that I am, because it's

1055
01:02:32.400 --> 01:02:35.840
<v Speaker 1>difficult to gather that information. And as far as what

1056
01:02:35.960 --> 01:02:38.599
<v Speaker 1>I had said about the bigger picture with abductees, I

1057
01:02:38.679 --> 01:02:41.719
<v Speaker 1>think there's millions of abductees out there that don't even

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01:02:41.800 --> 01:02:45.239
<v Speaker 1>know their abductees and will never know that their abductees.

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01:02:45.719 --> 01:02:48.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, the goal would be for you to never

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01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 1>know for the most part until it's time and just

1061
01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:55.000
<v Speaker 1>go through your life smoothly and not you know, be

1062
01:02:55.519 --> 01:02:59.199
<v Speaker 1>stressed over this and you know, confused, and you know,

1063
01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:02.840
<v Speaker 1>some you knowes always feel like the Boogeyman's out to

1064
01:03:02.880 --> 01:03:05.000
<v Speaker 1>get me and they're trying to hurt me, and you know,

1065
01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:08.920
<v Speaker 1>which is completely untrue. And the majority of the abductions

1066
01:03:09.039 --> 01:03:12.440
<v Speaker 1>are actually a positive thing because that part of the

1067
01:03:12.480 --> 01:03:14.360
<v Speaker 1>purpose is to it's like a check up. It's like

1068
01:03:14.400 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 1>a doctor's check up. They bring you up and they

1069
01:03:17.719 --> 01:03:20.519
<v Speaker 1>check your help and make sure everything's going okay, and

1070
01:03:20.639 --> 01:03:23.760
<v Speaker 1>then drop you back off. And so what people call

1071
01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 1>this horrible experience is actually for a good purpose. So

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01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.360
<v Speaker 1>all that and who I am and the experiences I've had,

1073
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:33.360
<v Speaker 1>now it's starting to die off, and I haven't had

1074
01:03:33.400 --> 01:03:35.599
<v Speaker 1>the experiences like that I've had in the past, and

1075
01:03:35.840 --> 01:03:39.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm not having it so much anymore. But I feel

1076
01:03:39.719 --> 01:03:44.480
<v Speaker 1>very confident in what I'm saying, and other people that

1077
01:03:45.159 --> 01:03:47.519
<v Speaker 1>have experiences and they seem kind of confused and not

1078
01:03:47.800 --> 01:03:50.719
<v Speaker 1>know what you know how to perceive all of this.

1079
01:03:52.000 --> 01:03:53.840
<v Speaker 1>And I can't say that that you know everything I'm

1080
01:03:53.840 --> 01:03:56.960
<v Speaker 1>saying is written in stone, but it's pretty close. And

1081
01:03:57.079 --> 01:04:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope that with what I'm saying help some people

1082
01:04:00.880 --> 01:04:04.280
<v Speaker 1>that feel confused and a little bit unsure of like

1083
01:04:04.480 --> 01:04:07.360
<v Speaker 1>what they're going through and what it all means. It's

1084
01:04:07.400 --> 01:04:11.480
<v Speaker 1>all something extremely positive and may not always feel positive,

1085
01:04:12.400 --> 01:04:16.519
<v Speaker 1>but it is the purpose of it is extremely good

1086
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:19.480
<v Speaker 1>meaning and in the end, it's going to be something

1087
01:04:19.559 --> 01:04:23.519
<v Speaker 1>extremely beautiful. So Nick, that's that's my story for the

1088
01:04:23.559 --> 01:04:24.039
<v Speaker 1>most part.

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01:04:24.400 --> 01:04:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Great job, Christian oh Man.

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01:04:26.239 --> 01:04:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate that. Yeah, you know, Nick, I don't. I

1091
01:04:28.840 --> 01:04:31.280
<v Speaker 1>can't say I know this, but you know, part of

1092
01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the reason why I did this is I feel like

1093
01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you're a special individual and I feel that you know

1094
01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that connection that feeling with you. I can't say I

1095
01:04:40.559 --> 01:04:43.280
<v Speaker 1>know that for a fact, but there's definitely something there,

1096
01:04:43.320 --> 01:04:45.679
<v Speaker 1>and I hope that you're taking the time out when

1097
01:04:45.719 --> 01:04:47.800
<v Speaker 1>you have time to investigate.

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01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.760
<v Speaker 3>That always good to hear someone saying that you're special.

1099
01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I like that, Yeah, definitely. So Yeah, that's pretty much

1100
01:04:54.880 --> 01:04:57.360
<v Speaker 1>all I have to give you. That's the whole barrel

1101
01:04:57.400 --> 01:04:57.760
<v Speaker 1>of it all.

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01:04:57.960 --> 01:05:01.159
<v Speaker 3>It always reminds you of mankind, destructive we are and

1103
01:05:01.320 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 3>all the problems that we have in the world. Always

1104
01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.360
<v Speaker 3>reminds me of the very beginning of two thousand and

1105
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 3>one Space Odyssey. Oh my god, the primate first discovers

1106
01:05:10.239 --> 01:05:12.639
<v Speaker 3>fire and then he starts to attack all the other

1107
01:05:12.719 --> 01:05:15.280
<v Speaker 3>animals that he'd lived in peace with, you know, in

1108
01:05:15.360 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 3>the Golden Age at the very very beginning. You know,

1109
01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.599
<v Speaker 3>you get this power and all of a sudden, that's.

1110
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:25.639
<v Speaker 1>It destruction that movie. How did he know so much?

1111
01:05:25.840 --> 01:05:29.360
<v Speaker 1>That's how did he just taps into this whole subject.

1112
01:05:29.599 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's there's a lot of hidden meanings and a

1113
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:35.760
<v Speaker 3>lot of esoteric symbolism within that film, even right from

1114
01:05:35.840 --> 01:05:38.000
<v Speaker 3>the very beginning, you know, it's all the way through.

1115
01:05:38.280 --> 01:05:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Now I look at that movie it's from in

1116
01:05:40.760 --> 01:05:45.599
<v Speaker 1>a completely different perspective. Now, it just really taps into

1117
01:05:45.760 --> 01:05:47.760
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing, and you know, just like what I

1118
01:05:47.840 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 1>had said, you know, I'm simplifying it. Of course. You know,

1119
01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:53.760
<v Speaker 1>the humans have found the matches, you know, the kids

1120
01:05:53.800 --> 01:05:56.760
<v Speaker 1>have found the matches. Yeah, it's pretty sad. I really

1121
01:05:56.920 --> 01:05:59.400
<v Speaker 1>hope for more for us in the future that will

1122
01:05:59.480 --> 01:06:03.159
<v Speaker 1>start waking up to the Bologny and start you know,

1123
01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:07.239
<v Speaker 1>having this sort of accountability for things, and start you know,

1124
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:10.760
<v Speaker 1>taking responsibility and try to grab hold of the world

1125
01:06:10.880 --> 01:06:13.679
<v Speaker 1>and you know, make things right. Yeah.

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01:06:13.760 --> 01:06:16.159
<v Speaker 3>I think the problem with facing these days is if

1127
01:06:16.239 --> 01:06:19.400
<v Speaker 3>people are too suggestible. That's not a shot at people's

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01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.480
<v Speaker 3>intelligence or anything like that, because there's a lot of

1129
01:06:21.599 --> 01:06:25.559
<v Speaker 3>very intelligent people which are getting bombarded with information constantly.

1130
01:06:25.639 --> 01:06:28.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you know yourself with the Internet and ads,

1131
01:06:28.800 --> 01:06:32.440
<v Speaker 3>and you're constantly being told something, sold something.

1132
01:06:32.599 --> 01:06:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1133
01:06:32.800 --> 01:06:36.320
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, it's not always the truth. People can change things

1134
01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.119
<v Speaker 3>and to build their own narrative, and I think that's

1135
01:06:40.119 --> 01:06:42.880
<v Speaker 3>the biggest problem. Because we're bombarded with so much information

1136
01:06:43.039 --> 01:06:46.679
<v Speaker 3>these days, people don't know what to believe, and I

1137
01:06:46.760 --> 01:06:48.599
<v Speaker 3>think a lot of time people end up believing the

1138
01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:49.400
<v Speaker 3>wrong thing.

1139
01:06:49.800 --> 01:06:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it seems like a lot of it in

1140
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:53.079
<v Speaker 1>the end is all about money.

1141
01:06:53.239 --> 01:06:56.039
<v Speaker 3>And that's what it boils down to. Money and power.

1142
01:06:56.400 --> 01:06:58.760
<v Speaker 1>Money and power, you know, I see the bigger picture

1143
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:03.079
<v Speaker 1>nowadays and allowed people to get so insanely filthy rich

1144
01:07:04.480 --> 01:07:08.440
<v Speaker 1>that it seems like they've just gotten bored and the

1145
01:07:08.519 --> 01:07:10.800
<v Speaker 1>money's just not even good enough anymore. They want power,

1146
01:07:11.159 --> 01:07:14.039
<v Speaker 1>they want to they feel this entitlement that they want

1147
01:07:14.079 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 1>to play god.

1148
01:07:15.000 --> 01:07:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely, I mean, you have people in power now,

1149
01:07:18.159 --> 01:07:22.039
<v Speaker 3>which it's just because they just have vast amounts of money,

1150
01:07:22.159 --> 01:07:25.000
<v Speaker 3>and they can just change public opinion, and you know

1151
01:07:25.079 --> 01:07:27.960
<v Speaker 3>they can. They can be experts of things and have

1152
01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:31.760
<v Speaker 3>their little fingers involved in things which they you know,

1153
01:07:32.079 --> 01:07:36.159
<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't be anywhere near. And I think until people

1154
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:38.480
<v Speaker 3>realize that they are people out there which are changing

1155
01:07:38.519 --> 01:07:41.760
<v Speaker 3>the world not for the better but for their own interests,

1156
01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:42.719
<v Speaker 3>belief or whatever.

1157
01:07:43.039 --> 01:07:46.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I always say to myself, you know, there's you

1158
01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.679
<v Speaker 1>can be the bad guy, and you can do horrible things,

1159
01:07:49.840 --> 01:07:51.760
<v Speaker 1>and you can be what you would call the good

1160
01:07:51.840 --> 01:07:55.400
<v Speaker 1>guy and say, you know that person's bad, they're doing

1161
01:07:55.440 --> 01:07:59.159
<v Speaker 1>all these horrible things. I'm the good guy. I don't

1162
01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:04.559
<v Speaker 1>do those things. But the reality is is that in

1163
01:08:04.760 --> 01:08:07.079
<v Speaker 1>order for things to change, for things to get better,

1164
01:08:08.559 --> 01:08:11.320
<v Speaker 1>you can't just be the good guy. You have to

1165
01:08:11.519 --> 01:08:15.679
<v Speaker 1>have accountability, you have to you have to do something

1166
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:19.600
<v Speaker 1>about the bad guy. You can't just sit there. You

1167
01:08:19.760 --> 01:08:24.319
<v Speaker 1>have to do something to create a create something positive, and.

1168
01:08:24.359 --> 01:08:25.560
<v Speaker 3>That's what people should be doing.

1169
01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know it dates back to

1170
01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:32.159
<v Speaker 1>the you know, the kings and queens days of you know,

1171
01:08:32.319 --> 01:08:34.880
<v Speaker 1>the peasants that are just living in the poorhouses, wanting

1172
01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:39.920
<v Speaker 1>to just meekly be left alone. You know, things never

1173
01:08:40.079 --> 01:08:43.960
<v Speaker 1>actually change until they get so fed up and then

1174
01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:48.640
<v Speaker 1>they start uniting together, and nothing happens until that finally happens.

1175
01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:51.760
<v Speaker 3>And well, the kings and the queens of old you

1176
01:08:51.800 --> 01:08:54.159
<v Speaker 3>should do is they would divide the people, and that

1177
01:08:54.319 --> 01:08:58.000
<v Speaker 3>is what we've sinned for Like forever, nothing's changed. We're

1178
01:08:58.079 --> 01:09:01.680
<v Speaker 3>constantly divided. That's why you can't group because we hate

1179
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:02.079
<v Speaker 3>each other.

1180
01:09:02.199 --> 01:09:02.319
<v Speaker 2>You know.

1181
01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:04.840
<v Speaker 3>That's the thing. Until people realize that, you know, if

1182
01:09:04.880 --> 01:09:07.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to make change, you have to all come

1183
01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:09.000
<v Speaker 3>together and do things the right way.

1184
01:09:09.640 --> 01:09:13.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's been there in our faith forever. None

1185
01:09:13.159 --> 01:09:14.800
<v Speaker 1>of what we're seeing in front of us now is

1186
01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:18.279
<v Speaker 1>anything new. Like you said before, it's the same, you know,

1187
01:09:18.520 --> 01:09:21.720
<v Speaker 1>dialogue or whatever you want to call it, regurgitated again.

1188
01:09:22.399 --> 01:09:24.600
<v Speaker 1>It's like, I think our kids need to go into

1189
01:09:24.680 --> 01:09:28.159
<v Speaker 1>the history books and learn from the past to not

1190
01:09:28.359 --> 01:09:29.399
<v Speaker 1>repeat in the future.

1191
01:09:29.640 --> 01:09:31.239
<v Speaker 3>And I think this is what they rely on. They

1192
01:09:31.279 --> 01:09:33.399
<v Speaker 3>rely on the fact that when new generations come out,

1193
01:09:34.199 --> 01:09:37.319
<v Speaker 3>they've just thrown the same crap and then accept it.

1194
01:09:37.520 --> 01:09:40.680
<v Speaker 3>And you're absolutely right about learning from the past. People

1195
01:09:40.760 --> 01:09:41.399
<v Speaker 3>don't seem to.

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01:09:41.920 --> 01:09:44.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's sad. I really I have high hopes and

1197
01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:49.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, and everything that I've talked about, maybe we've

1198
01:09:49.479 --> 01:09:51.920
<v Speaker 1>reached the point where there is no hope and there's

1199
01:09:51.960 --> 01:09:54.800
<v Speaker 1>going to have to be something, you know, drastic that happens.

1200
01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:57.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't say I know the future, but

1201
01:09:58.239 --> 01:09:59.920
<v Speaker 1>it just seems to be pointing in that direct.

1202
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:02.960
<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes things have to get really, really bad

1203
01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:05.479
<v Speaker 3>before they get better.

1204
01:10:06.199 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 1>You know. I think part of the reason why people

1205
01:10:07.600 --> 01:10:10.039
<v Speaker 1>are attracted to you and this show is in between

1206
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you and the people that are attracted to the show

1207
01:10:13.960 --> 01:10:17.960
<v Speaker 1>are this you know, more positive thing, and it definitely

1208
01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:21.960
<v Speaker 1>radiates out and makes people feel better and makes people

1209
01:10:22.039 --> 01:10:25.000
<v Speaker 1>feel like they're not alone, and you know, there's others

1210
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:27.520
<v Speaker 1>out there like them, and like you had said to me,

1211
01:10:27.600 --> 01:10:31.039
<v Speaker 1>there's you're getting more people contacting you. You know. Hopefully

1212
01:10:31.039 --> 01:10:32.600
<v Speaker 1>it just keeps progressing in that way.

1213
01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:35.239
<v Speaker 3>So the people that contact. I mean the people have

1214
01:10:35.520 --> 01:10:39.000
<v Speaker 3>as guests. There are no particular type, you know that

1215
01:10:39.239 --> 01:10:42.920
<v Speaker 3>they're not only males and not only females. It's every

1216
01:10:43.399 --> 01:10:45.800
<v Speaker 3>type of person you can imagine from so many different

1217
01:10:45.920 --> 01:10:51.359
<v Speaker 3>religions and locations and levels of education, different background. Yeah,

1218
01:10:51.560 --> 01:10:54.960
<v Speaker 3>it is such a cross section. It's all about about learning,

1219
01:10:55.159 --> 01:10:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I think, you know, and if people can all come

1220
01:10:58.039 --> 01:11:00.880
<v Speaker 3>to the table and share what they've exped experienced, and

1221
01:11:01.039 --> 01:11:03.840
<v Speaker 3>then people do connect, and people do connect with the show,

1222
01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:06.119
<v Speaker 3>and they do connect with the guests and stuff, and

1223
01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:07.880
<v Speaker 3>they want to know more and they want to learn more.

1224
01:11:08.119 --> 01:11:10.600
<v Speaker 3>Like yourself, you were kind of shielded from this this

1225
01:11:10.720 --> 01:11:11.960
<v Speaker 3>subject when you're youngest.

1226
01:11:12.239 --> 01:11:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh man, Absolutely, you.

1227
01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.399
<v Speaker 3>Came to it later. You've definitely caught up now though.

1228
01:11:16.560 --> 01:11:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh I had to really get in there and

1229
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:23.000
<v Speaker 1>get going on it. I just felt like the a

1230
01:11:23.159 --> 01:11:25.319
<v Speaker 1>veil had been lifted over the top of my head.

1231
01:11:25.479 --> 01:11:27.319
<v Speaker 3>And I often see that of a lot of my guests.

1232
01:11:27.359 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 3>You know, they grew up in a particular background.

1233
01:11:30.600 --> 01:11:30.760
<v Speaker 2>You know.

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01:11:30.880 --> 01:11:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes an example would be said that they were brought

1235
01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.720
<v Speaker 3>up as Catholics. This kind of stuff was just wasn't

1236
01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:39.600
<v Speaker 3>spoken about as a child. They were you know, completely

1237
01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:43.560
<v Speaker 3>separated from any of the actual possibilities in life.

1238
01:11:43.720 --> 01:11:45.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's exactly how you know it was for me,

1239
01:11:45.880 --> 01:11:47.680
<v Speaker 1>and I see it with others, you know, and what

1240
01:11:47.800 --> 01:11:49.760
<v Speaker 1>you had said about the all walks of light, you know,

1241
01:11:50.600 --> 01:11:54.279
<v Speaker 1>writers and hypno therapist people like you know Jacobs and

1242
01:11:54.960 --> 01:11:57.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, Bud Hopkins, they'd say it had said exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what you said, all walk the life, I mean people

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<v Speaker 1>from one spectrum to the complete other end of the spectrum,

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<v Speaker 1>from police officers, the doctors, the homeless people to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>living on a reservations. I mean, just every type of life.

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<v Speaker 3>Even though we don't always publicize, you know what the

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<v Speaker 3>person does, a lot of people do. Talk to me

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<v Speaker 3>off al and yeah, it's the whole spectrum of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it just it wrapped around every type.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't discriminate, no, wonderful Christie.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>When you began, you know, you're you're talking about your

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<v Speaker 3>friend that had passed. And then later on, yeah, your

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<v Speaker 3>best friend that had passed. You know, you can certainly

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<v Speaker 3>categorize that as being unfinished business, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 3>the very Oh you know, when you when your friend

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<v Speaker 3>passed away, you didn't you didn't know you didn't go

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<v Speaker 3>to the funeral, which is you know, that's normal, and

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01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.039
<v Speaker 3>it could just be that your friend wanted to simply

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<v Speaker 3>say goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what his intentions were,

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<v Speaker 1>but I sure felt his personality because he was kind

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01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.600
<v Speaker 1>of a boisterous person. It just for me left a

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01:12:59.640 --> 01:13:01.920
<v Speaker 1>feeling of that, you know, it would have been okay

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the funeral. It's it's a you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>At that point in time, I just thought it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter because there is nothing happening out there anyways. But

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<v Speaker 1>as time went by and I learned more, it does matter.

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<v Speaker 1>Not you know, not necessarily like you have to go

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<v Speaker 1>to someone's funeral, but it does matter. They mattered, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Yeah, of course, yeah, And so

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<v Speaker 1>it just it just it taught me a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>And then that put you on a particular path.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, the three you know situations completely. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>who would have guessed? You know here, I feel so silly,

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<v Speaker 1>like how I didn't even know what the word the

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<v Speaker 1>grays was. I had no idea, and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know you didn't. You didn't have any interest in this

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe it's just like anybody else. I loved

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01:13:48.119 --> 01:13:50.520
<v Speaker 1>watching Star Trek and Star Wars and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But no matter how much I liked those things, there

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01:13:55.319 --> 01:13:58.199
<v Speaker 1>was always something pulling me back because of what my

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01:13:58.359 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 1>parents had taught me that it was just fiction, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So I never really took it to that next level

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01:14:05.039 --> 01:14:06.600
<v Speaker 1>of what I could see within it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that does make sense. Yeah, I said a lot

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<v Speaker 3>you know a lot of people in their you know,

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01:14:12.000 --> 01:14:15.319
<v Speaker 3>their past, it was exactly the same. You know, they

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01:14:15.359 --> 01:14:17.960
<v Speaker 3>were very late. And sometimes my guests, you know, have

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01:14:18.079 --> 01:14:21.199
<v Speaker 3>had zero interest in the subjects, and a lot of

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01:14:21.239 --> 01:14:23.319
<v Speaker 3>them just want to come on and just just share

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01:14:23.399 --> 01:14:25.600
<v Speaker 3>it and be done with it. They have no interest

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<v Speaker 3>in investigating it further.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I see that. I see some people that they

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01:14:29.439 --> 01:14:31.880
<v Speaker 1>have their story, and they have stories that are more, way,

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01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:34.960
<v Speaker 1>more intense than mine, and they just wanted to go away.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So I had a guest on a while ago

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01:14:37.920 --> 01:14:40.159
<v Speaker 3>and he said to me, goes, listen, I've got a

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01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 3>good job, I've got a good family life. I don't

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01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.560
<v Speaker 3>want to jeopardize any of that. I just want to

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01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.720
<v Speaker 3>share this and be completely done with it and just

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01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:51.680
<v Speaker 3>carry on with my life. I'm happy in that life.

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01:14:51.720 --> 01:14:53.720
<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't want anything to change, but I

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01:14:53.800 --> 01:14:55.000
<v Speaker 3>have to get this off my chest.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's okay. You know, that's okay. You're on

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01:14:58.600 --> 01:15:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this journey and it's not like, you know, you have

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01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:03.760
<v Speaker 1>to focus on any of this. It's always going to

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01:15:03.840 --> 01:15:05.680
<v Speaker 1>be out there. It's not like it's going to go

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01:15:05.720 --> 01:15:07.880
<v Speaker 1>away because you didn't focus on it. It's good to

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01:15:08.000 --> 01:15:11.079
<v Speaker 1>have your family life and your friends and your job,

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01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and you came here to have this learning experience, so hey, great,

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01:15:15.880 --> 01:15:17.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, focus and do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think for him it was it was a twofold thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was he wanted to get off his

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<v Speaker 3>chest and tell and tell someone, and he also wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to tell someone that, you know, he knew it was

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<v Speaker 3>then going to be played to people and shared with

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01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:34.560
<v Speaker 3>people and then in turn they can take what they

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<v Speaker 3>need from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, I understand that because that was part of

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01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:40.119
<v Speaker 1>my purpose, is that I was. I'm hopeful a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of times when I hear your show and other people,

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01:15:43.039 --> 01:15:46.560
<v Speaker 1>they seem to have a little bit of this underlying

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01:15:46.760 --> 01:15:49.399
<v Speaker 1>stress in them because they'll say this and this happened,

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01:15:49.479 --> 01:15:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and I just don't understand. And so I'm hopeful that

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<v Speaker 1>by telling My perspective on it that it'll help people

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01:15:57.920 --> 01:16:01.279
<v Speaker 1>to close that gap or to motivate them to do

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more other research and fill in those

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01:16:04.800 --> 01:16:07.520
<v Speaker 1>gaps for them and make a more complete picture, and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully in the end it'll be a positive picture, you know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's.

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<v Speaker 3>What we want really.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>You know a lot of people they go for these

1339
01:16:15.560 --> 01:16:18.039
<v Speaker 3>experiences and the first thing they think of, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm losing my mind. I'm going crazy, that this this

1341
01:16:21.319 --> 01:16:22.239
<v Speaker 3>stuff can be real.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I see people that or hear people that,

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01:16:26.399 --> 01:16:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, they say, you know, I was sleeping, I

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01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.000
<v Speaker 1>felt paralysis. I was taken up on a craft and

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01:16:32.920 --> 01:16:35.159
<v Speaker 1>they were so mean to me, and they were so

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01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:38.439
<v Speaker 1>they were degrading to me and treated me poorly, and

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01:16:39.520 --> 01:16:41.600
<v Speaker 1>and that sucks to have that for someone have to

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01:16:41.640 --> 01:16:43.640
<v Speaker 1>feel that way. But if they understand the bigger picture

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01:16:43.720 --> 01:16:46.319
<v Speaker 1>and what's going on, you know, maybe they weren't. They're

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01:16:46.319 --> 01:16:48.880
<v Speaker 1>in a hurry. They got to get you back, you know,

1351
01:16:49.000 --> 01:16:51.880
<v Speaker 1>they don't want you to know what's going on. You know,

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01:16:52.039 --> 01:16:55.840
<v Speaker 1>the freaking Air Force has got a plane coming this way,

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01:16:55.880 --> 01:16:58.720
<v Speaker 1>and they got to get this done. You know, there

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01:16:58.840 --> 01:17:03.359
<v Speaker 1>is no negative intentions, you know, there's always going to

1355
01:17:03.399 --> 01:17:06.399
<v Speaker 1>be something else that's going on that creates that, and

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01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:08.880
<v Speaker 1>hopefully people can understand it a little better and be

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01:17:08.960 --> 01:17:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a little more accepting of why it went down the

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01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:12.479
<v Speaker 1>way it did.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's great, Okay, my friend. Well, I appreciate everything, Christian.

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<v Speaker 3>I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

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01:17:20.279 --> 01:17:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thanks very much, and stay in contact.

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<v Speaker 3>With me absolutely, Keep in contact all right, and I

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01:17:25.319 --> 01:17:26.159
<v Speaker 3>will talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah by bye, Okay, take care.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all for this week. Keep updated and connected with

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01:17:31.479 --> 01:17:34.640
<v Speaker 3>the show on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if you

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01:17:34.680 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 3>have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,

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01:17:41.800 --> 01:17:43.840
<v Speaker 3>or you can reach out to me via the contact

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01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:48.039
<v Speaker 3>page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

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<v Speaker 3>big than to Christian for sharing tonight, and thank you

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<v Speaker 3>all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then,

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<v Speaker 3>stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.
