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I think it's 10 00:00:38.159 --> 00:00:41.159 just going to get weirder and weirder and weirder, and 11 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.439 finally it's going to be so weird that people are 12 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:46.679 going to have to talk about how weird it is. 13 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.200 Eventually people are going to say, what the hell is 14 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:55.759 going on. It's not enough to say it's nuts. You 15 00:00:55.840 --> 00:01:01.280 have to explain why it's so nuts. The invention artificial life, 16 00:01:01.359 --> 00:01:08.040 the cloning of human beings, possible contact with extraterrestrials. The 17 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:13.439 systems which are in place to keep the world sane 18 00:01:13.959 --> 00:01:18.959 are in utterly inadequate to the forces that have been unleashed. 19 00:01:21.760 --> 00:01:25.519 Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew. Today, 20 00:01:25.560 --> 00:01:28.599 my guest is Jahan stur. Be sure and check out 21 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:31.920 my films Doors of Perception on Amazon Prime. I called 22 00:01:31.959 --> 00:01:35.799 Louisianas on two b We are booking guests for January. 23 00:01:35.840 --> 00:01:38.239 If you have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest, 24 00:01:38.400 --> 00:01:42.200 email me Forbidden Knowledge neews at gmail dot com. Be 25 00:01:42.239 --> 00:01:45.439 sure to visit our website Forbidden Knowledge dot news. It's 26 00:01:45.480 --> 00:01:47.959 also the home of the Forbidden Knowledge Network. We feature 27 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:52.079 some of your favorite podcasts and content creators. Today, I 28 00:01:52.120 --> 00:01:54.959 want to welcome back to the show, Jahan Stur. He 29 00:01:55.120 --> 00:02:01.200 is a CTAA accredited cognitive behavioral therapist, hypnotherapist, nutrition coach, 30 00:02:01.599 --> 00:02:08.520 mindfulness teacher, and specialist in the area of subconscious self sabotage. Jahann, 31 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:09.759 welcome back. How you doing. 32 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.000 I'm doing great. Thanks for having me back, so much. 33 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:17.240 For coming back on. With so many independent content creators 34 00:02:17.280 --> 00:02:20.879 now presenting the observations about the state of society, there's 35 00:02:21.400 --> 00:02:25.319 a lot of fundamental problems being revealed about the systems 36 00:02:25.319 --> 00:02:29.680 we operate under. And while there are amazing researchers presenting 37 00:02:29.719 --> 00:02:35.319 this information, there's still seemingly very few tangible solutions being offered, 38 00:02:35.719 --> 00:02:39.159 which is exactly what we'll be discussing today, as we 39 00:02:39.240 --> 00:02:42.400 try to do with every episode, but your work focuses 40 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:46.879 on personal solutions to help people navigate the realm. Looking 41 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:50.479 forward to sharing your insights with the audience. Before we 42 00:02:50.560 --> 00:02:52.479 get into this, it has been a while since you've 43 00:02:52.479 --> 00:02:55.319 been on. Remind us a little bit about yourself and 44 00:02:55.400 --> 00:02:57.400 let the audience know how they can find out more. 45 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:03.759 Well, I'm just a regular guy that went through some stuff, 46 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:10.319 and through experiencing that stuff, I had a rapid awakening 47 00:03:10.400 --> 00:03:15.439 process and I became very interested in hypnotherapy. So that's 48 00:03:15.439 --> 00:03:18.240 what I do. That's my main tool that I use, 49 00:03:19.280 --> 00:03:23.319 and I guess some people consider me an expert on 50 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:29.520 subconscious self sabotage. It's not for everyone. It's for people 51 00:03:29.599 --> 00:03:33.159 who are really just tired of repeating the same patterns 52 00:03:33.199 --> 00:03:37.520 over and over. And you know, I used to be 53 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:40.280 a musician. I still dabble in it a little bit, 54 00:03:41.199 --> 00:03:46.319 and you can find me on the Bonus Authenticity podcast. 55 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:49.560 I release episodes at least once a week. 56 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:55.159 And yeah, right on, man, So let's start with your 57 00:03:55.199 --> 00:04:00.840 observations of the state of society. With everything that's unfolded, 58 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.280 there seems to be a lot of chaos, a lot 59 00:04:03.280 --> 00:04:07.800 of unsureness, a lot of people looking for spiritual answers 60 00:04:07.840 --> 00:04:10.840 and solutions, and unfortunately a little bit of psychosis in 61 00:04:10.919 --> 00:04:14.080 there as well. But I have to look at the 62 00:04:14.240 --> 00:04:18.279 course that we've taken over the past couple of decades 63 00:04:18.319 --> 00:04:21.480 and wonder if this is a natural course of evolution 64 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:25.680 at all, or if it's been completely steered by these 65 00:04:26.240 --> 00:04:29.319 parasitic forces that we know of as a ruling class. 66 00:04:29.920 --> 00:04:32.600 What are your thoughts on where we're at. 67 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:39.399 Well, you just said it. It's the parasitic ruling class. 68 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:45.720 It's the conglomerates, corporations. They're pulling the strings we often 69 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:51.199 hear about, you know, the Fritz spring Meyer theory, bloodlines 70 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.279 of the Illuminati and all that. It's more than thirteen 71 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:58.519 it's it's more than just a few families doing this. 72 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:06.399 It's a consolidated, deliberate attempt to steer humanity in any 73 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:13.519 direction that is away from personal sovereignty, autonomy, any sense 74 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:17.920 of real internal freedom. Everything has been co opted. I'm 75 00:05:17.959 --> 00:05:20.879 sure you might have listened to my podcast episode The 76 00:05:20.879 --> 00:05:26.399 Cult of Psychotherapy, where I unpack how that too was 77 00:05:26.600 --> 00:05:32.160 never intended to help anyone with their emotional or mental health. 78 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:40.879 Everything around us is by design, and the issue with that, 79 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:44.680 like you were saying, is that there's this spiritual component 80 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:52.120 that usually accompanies desire for more freedom. Right with that, 81 00:05:52.199 --> 00:05:56.040 we have the New Age which has been co opted 82 00:05:56.399 --> 00:05:59.759 and would I would offend a lot of people by 83 00:05:59.800 --> 00:06:04.600 saying in this and I'm afraid to do so. Of 84 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.240 what you hear in the New Age is useless stuff. 85 00:06:09.199 --> 00:06:11.920 People need to come to the point of awareness now 86 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:16.399 where religion is also useless. It has done some things, 87 00:06:16.439 --> 00:06:19.360 like it's given us the Ten Commandments, et cetera. But 88 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:24.839 in reality, the majority of spiritual knowledge that can be 89 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:30.199 passed down lives within those ten commandments. It is how 90 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:33.680 you apply those things that makes the difference. If you 91 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:38.439 read all of the spiritual texts and you make comparisons, 92 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:45.240 they're all essentially giving you one critical insight, and it 93 00:06:45.319 --> 00:06:50.639 is that all is within you. Everything is mind, and 94 00:06:50.680 --> 00:06:53.959 it is all inside of you. How well you can 95 00:06:54.040 --> 00:07:00.399 navigate depends on your internal relationship. And so the virtual 96 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:06.000 seekers are now being guided towards the Internet, which you 97 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:10.920 and I know is exactly what it sounds like, a net. 98 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.480 It catches your attention and it's hard to pull away 99 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:17.680 from them. So people who are well intentioned, like the 100 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.800 listeners of this podcast, or the listeners of Boundless Authenticity podcast, 101 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:27.480 or whoever else, will gravitate towards whoever appears to be 102 00:07:27.519 --> 00:07:33.959 an expert, because we've been conditioned since nineteen forty seven 103 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:39.639 to accept this idea of expertise as a solution. There's 104 00:07:39.680 --> 00:07:44.480 a leader that will basically have all of the information, 105 00:07:45.279 --> 00:07:48.759 and that's coming from ancient archetypes. But it was perfected 106 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:52.319 at the birth of Tavistock in nineteen forty seven in London, 107 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:56.439 and it was just the Tavistock Clinic started in World 108 00:07:56.519 --> 00:08:00.879 War One, and it really began by research shell shock 109 00:08:00.959 --> 00:08:04.680 and soldiers, So that's what we now call PTSD, But 110 00:08:05.360 --> 00:08:10.279 that was never really about helping anybody. All it boils 111 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.920 down to is we're going to run a series of 112 00:08:12.959 --> 00:08:15.560 experiments to figure out what are the common threads between 113 00:08:15.720 --> 00:08:19.160 humans and their relationship to trauma and how that changes behavior. 114 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:27.199 And out of that came mass persuasion, how to change 115 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:32.480 morale of the population, how to use propaganda techniques. Obviously, 116 00:08:32.519 --> 00:08:34.480 coming out of the World War a lot of that 117 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:38.200 was focused around how do you keep populations obedient during 118 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:43.559 wartime and in increasing moments of stress. How do you 119 00:08:43.600 --> 00:08:48.919 stop them from rebelling when they're under stress. So, when 120 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.399 you understand that that everything in this world is geared 121 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:58.519 around stopping you from rebelling, when you wake up to 122 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.759 I shouldn't even use the term wake up, when you 123 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.559 become aware that something in your environment is actually causing 124 00:09:05.600 --> 00:09:09.799 you to feel like a victim. Right, you could say 125 00:09:09.879 --> 00:09:13.200 that a lot of the you're not a victim of 126 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:17.200 circumstances programming that you see repetitively in the spiritual and 127 00:09:17.240 --> 00:09:21.360 coaching arena is actually more tabs. Stop having their fingers 128 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.960 in that pie as well, trying to divert your attention 129 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:30.200 to radical self growth because it's a trick. It's a 130 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.120 mirror look at yourself, so that all you see is 131 00:09:33.159 --> 00:09:37.960 yourself fundamentally. Then, because you're under stress, you're in survival 132 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:41.240 mode and you're only focusing on the development of your 133 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:48.120 quote unquote spiritual self, which fuels you towards narcissism. The 134 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:53.159 same thing, there was a really stupid clip going around 135 00:09:53.200 --> 00:09:57.759 the internet viral about don't love your job, job your 136 00:09:57.799 --> 00:10:02.759 love with that dude from mind Valley and some weird lady. 137 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:08.679 It is as stupid as it sounds okay. So the 138 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.519 intention behind that is to use the idea that you 139 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:14.879 shouldn't be working for someone else. You need to turn 140 00:10:14.960 --> 00:10:18.039 the thing that you love into a form of income. 141 00:10:18.519 --> 00:10:22.159 But that's not ideal for everyone. We need street sweepers, 142 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:28.799 we need maids, nurses, doctors, we need people who can 143 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:36.600 do the hard jobs that often are thankless, often may 144 00:10:36.639 --> 00:10:40.440 not lead to a life full of passion and purpose 145 00:10:41.399 --> 00:10:43.480 and all of that. Sometimes the you know, you talk 146 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.840 to those people and they're burnt out all the time 147 00:10:46.919 --> 00:10:50.360 and they want to do something else, but they know 148 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:54.799 that what they're doing is necessary. It may not necessarily 149 00:10:54.840 --> 00:10:59.200 check all their boxes. That's just an example. So that 150 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:03.840 is a way of diverting people's attention and focus and 151 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.639 who they are on the insight, and again they get 152 00:11:06.720 --> 00:11:10.639 us because most people are actually good. Most people just 153 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:12.879 want to be loved. They just want to create love 154 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:17.000 from whatever they experience, and they don't know that we 155 00:11:17.159 --> 00:11:21.200 have just been turned into you know, the smashing Pumpkins line. 156 00:11:21.639 --> 00:11:23.279 In spite of my rage, I'm just a rat in 157 00:11:23.320 --> 00:11:28.679 a cage. Right, So that's where we're at. And then 158 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.320 you have the media, of course, which is more Tavistock 159 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:35.120 and three letter agencies that they know that the most 160 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:39.519 effective way to shape society is not through force, but 161 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:45.080 actually through these moving pictures. It began with radio and newspapers. 162 00:11:45.600 --> 00:11:49.440 Who wants that fear of what you can hear on 163 00:11:49.480 --> 00:11:52.720 the radio war off and they realized they needed something stronger. 164 00:11:53.279 --> 00:11:56.240 Then they realized that the repetition of the images and 165 00:11:56.320 --> 00:12:02.200 stories and slogans could be easier implanted without you realizing 166 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:09.440 it through the TV. Right, So, yeah, you know, and 167 00:12:10.200 --> 00:12:13.000 they just use these three basic techniques, which would been 168 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.720 number one, the repetition principle, which is you say something 169 00:12:17.000 --> 00:12:20.080 often enough and people are gonna accept that as truth. 170 00:12:20.799 --> 00:12:25.159 It only takes the subconscious mind two to three repetitions. Okay, 171 00:12:26.440 --> 00:12:29.440 when I say subconscious, I'm still talking in those terms 172 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:35.399 as though there's a difference between conscious and subconscious. But realistically, 173 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:38.840 when a person is stressed out to the max, which 174 00:12:38.879 --> 00:12:42.120 is what we're seeing right now in this present global culture, 175 00:12:43.000 --> 00:12:48.000 all is mind. There's very little critical thinking whatsoever. And 176 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.440 so in hypnosis we talk about the critical faculty, which 177 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:55.080 is the doorway to the unconscious processes that run everything. 178 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.320 But that doorway becomes wide open when you're under this 179 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:03.080 much stress, right. The other principle is the authority principle 180 00:13:03.120 --> 00:13:05.759 that I spoke about a little bit earlier. Put somebody 181 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.639 in a butcher coat or a lab coat or a 182 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:12.799 general's uniform, and the public is going to obey that. 183 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:19.360 That's why programming from Gray's Anatomy and medical shows and 184 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:23.360 stuff work and sell so well because of the authority principle. 185 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:26.639 They can tell you anything. There's also the reason why 186 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.799 you watch certain TV shows, from The Walking Dead to 187 00:13:30.480 --> 00:13:35.360 anything on the CW superhero shows, you notice that they 188 00:13:35.519 --> 00:13:38.559 dress a very particular way and compare the way that 189 00:13:38.559 --> 00:13:44.120 they're dressed to like Dean and Sam in Supernatural. It's 190 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:48.759 a very particular color scheme, a particular dress code, usually 191 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:52.240 a well tailored T shirt and a long sleeve shirt 192 00:13:52.320 --> 00:13:55.639 or a jacket or something over the top, using certain 193 00:13:55.639 --> 00:14:01.840 colors and hues, and that all also engages the authority 194 00:14:01.879 --> 00:14:06.519 principle causes you to follow that person as though there're 195 00:14:06.519 --> 00:14:11.399 somewhat I guess like you, but they know a lot 196 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.399 more about a particular topic or something within an emotional context. 197 00:14:15.559 --> 00:14:18.840 So then nicking news emotional triggers like fear and sex 198 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:23.879 or outrage to just basically bypass any rational faculties that 199 00:14:23.919 --> 00:14:28.240 you have, right, And that's actually just the formula of 200 00:14:28.399 --> 00:14:32.480 modern advertising and the twenty four hour news cycles. That's 201 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:37.720 why CNN changed their name from CNN to breaking News 202 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:43.440 on paper. Right. You hardly ever hear this is CNN anymore. 203 00:14:43.720 --> 00:14:47.639 You'll always hear breaking news and they go right into something, 204 00:14:48.279 --> 00:14:49.679 and a lot of the time, if you sit there, 205 00:14:49.720 --> 00:14:52.919 you realize, wait a minute, this actually isn't even urgent. 206 00:14:53.440 --> 00:14:57.200 But just because they've said breaking news before, that limbic 207 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:01.000 system gets activated and you blindly accept information. Whether you 208 00:15:01.039 --> 00:15:04.879 can try to accept or reject that depends on your 209 00:15:04.960 --> 00:15:07.600 level of stress at the moment, depends on what you 210 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.120 put in your body. I like to use the example 211 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:14.720 of Gosh his name escapes me because I haven't talked 212 00:15:14.720 --> 00:15:18.120 about this in a while, but he was the producer 213 00:15:18.120 --> 00:15:21.480 and creator of Gilligan's Island and people were reaching out 214 00:15:21.480 --> 00:15:25.679 to him sending letters basically saying, why do you have 215 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:28.960 those people trapped on that island? We have the resources, 216 00:15:28.960 --> 00:15:31.320 we can go and save them. And that was the 217 00:15:31.320 --> 00:15:34.000 moment he realized that people were stupid. I think his 218 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:39.080 name is Sherwood Schwartz or something. Like that, and that 219 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:41.799 goes to show you the effect of television back in 220 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.879 a time period where the technology wasn't that advanced, you know, 221 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:46.399 when people were not. 222 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:52.080 They can make anyone an expert, anyone that they handpick 223 00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.360 that is willing to carry a certain narrative. They don't 224 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:02.480 even have to be educated in whatever they're trying to promote. 225 00:16:02.480 --> 00:16:05.240 They just have to be the one that plays the 226 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:08.679 part of the expert. And you can have an entire 227 00:16:08.799 --> 00:16:13.159 population swaying their opinion on one thing or another because 228 00:16:13.159 --> 00:16:17.120 of this douchebag that they decided was an expert. It's crazy. 229 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:19.600 I want to go back to something you were saying 230 00:16:19.799 --> 00:16:24.799 about the new age spirituality traps new age or otherwise. 231 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:29.360 Right now it's being promoted is the information and the 232 00:16:29.519 --> 00:16:36.039 knowledge and the spiritual wisdom, but zero application, only the 233 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:42.159 rewarding of understanding certain spiritual concepts to a certain degree. 234 00:16:42.720 --> 00:16:47.919 But those that are preaching these same concepts are addicted, 235 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:53.080 are sexual devians, or have other huge, major problems in 236 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:57.440 their life, but they know some heavy duty spiritual stuff. 237 00:16:57.799 --> 00:17:00.399 So there are going to be the new face of 238 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:04.839 whatever spiritual movement is come about. So this is another 239 00:17:04.920 --> 00:17:09.039 problem that I see we're facing right now. 240 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:13.039 Well, you and I share that common bond. We came 241 00:17:13.160 --> 00:17:18.440 up in you know, the Age of Awakening. We were 242 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.359 both spurred very much by our interests in fringe topics, 243 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:30.160 paranormal conspiracy, and spirituality. Right we both are very, according 244 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:34.119 to the narrative, spiritually aware, but also aware on a 245 00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.359 level outside of that due to our ability to critically think. 246 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:39.519 So I don't feel like you and I probably have 247 00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:43.079 fallen into the traps that everyone else has. The issue 248 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:47.720 with the New Age programming is that if that information 249 00:17:48.640 --> 00:17:53.400 was inherently empowering at all, we would not have any 250 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:58.960 access to it. Okay, it's that it's that simple and 251 00:17:59.000 --> 00:18:01.440 sad in the reality of it, and a lot of 252 00:18:01.480 --> 00:18:04.519 people will argue. Probably people are arguing and turning this 253 00:18:04.559 --> 00:18:08.799 episode off right now because I've touched on something that 254 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:14.319 they don't want to accept. Ultimately, no one should be 255 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:20.480 able to tell you what your reality is, how to worship, 256 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:26.400 who to worship. Ultimately, if you get right down to 257 00:18:26.519 --> 00:18:29.880 the deepest, darkest parts of you and you figure out 258 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:33.279 how to remove those things, there's a part of your 259 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:38.400 brain that needs to be connected to your spiritual self 260 00:18:38.599 --> 00:18:42.799 or you will die. It has been measured in atheists 261 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:47.240 that these parts of your brain, they will shut off 262 00:18:47.240 --> 00:18:50.799 over time if you constantly deny the concept of God 263 00:18:50.839 --> 00:18:55.480 to a degree that you just you know, you don't 264 00:18:55.480 --> 00:19:00.519 even want to acknowledge anything in that way. And so 265 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.880 there's so many different ways that we get sucked into that. 266 00:19:04.319 --> 00:19:08.680 There's tons of psychological manipulation between the New Age spirituality 267 00:19:08.720 --> 00:19:12.559 and other sources of worship as well. It's all the same, 268 00:19:13.519 --> 00:19:18.079 and it's the allure of belonging. Humans are literally wired 269 00:19:18.200 --> 00:19:21.960 for connection. We want to have family, we want to 270 00:19:22.000 --> 00:19:24.920 have a tribe, we want to have a purpose. New 271 00:19:24.960 --> 00:19:28.799 Age and religious organizations know that, and they use it 272 00:19:28.839 --> 00:19:35.440 against us. The New Age is basically offering things like 273 00:19:35.519 --> 00:19:38.519 we see a lot of the cosmic family type deal 274 00:19:38.559 --> 00:19:40.279 and it's the best way I can describe it. For 275 00:19:40.319 --> 00:19:43.880 this purpose, it's promising you that you're a part of 276 00:19:43.880 --> 00:19:47.079 a chosen generation. We hear the chosen ones a lot 277 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.880 in so many different places. We're supposed to be here 278 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:58.759 to raise the planet's vibration. Right, logically, we live and 279 00:19:58.799 --> 00:20:02.559 we die. Okay, if there is a group of us 280 00:20:02.599 --> 00:20:05.000 that are supposed to raise the vibration, what happens when 281 00:20:05.079 --> 00:20:09.559 we die? Who comes along after that. If you don't 282 00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:14.680 ask those questions and actually just be honest about it, 283 00:20:15.279 --> 00:20:17.759 then you're not gonna want to hear anything else. And 284 00:20:17.839 --> 00:20:22.799 so it preys on our deep need to be accepted 285 00:20:23.079 --> 00:20:25.680 and loved and put on a pedestal and seen as 286 00:20:25.720 --> 00:20:31.920 something special above others. Right, it's like identity fusion. Really, 287 00:20:32.039 --> 00:20:34.559 it's your sense of self is going to merge with 288 00:20:34.640 --> 00:20:39.519 this group, and you can't leave or deny the information 289 00:20:40.279 --> 00:20:44.519 or allow yourself, the patient's and the grace to think 290 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:47.279 critically about it, because you don't want to leave the community. 291 00:20:47.319 --> 00:20:50.799 You don't want to upset the community because they've gotten 292 00:20:50.799 --> 00:20:54.559 in your head and now you're convinced that somehow, if 293 00:20:54.599 --> 00:20:57.039 you put that to the site, even just to think 294 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:02.160 about it, you would abandon your soul's mission. Way right, 295 00:21:02.720 --> 00:21:04.720 anybody could listen to what I'm saying, then go back 296 00:21:04.759 --> 00:21:06.880 and scroll through your Instagram feed and listen to what 297 00:21:06.920 --> 00:21:09.920 they say, and you realize exactly what I'm talking about. 298 00:21:10.440 --> 00:21:14.079 You know, if you don't resonate, your vibration is high enough. 299 00:21:16.680 --> 00:21:19.160 You know, you also see that with the conspiracy trying 300 00:21:19.279 --> 00:21:23.359 too where it's like you know, you have cognitive dissonance 301 00:21:23.400 --> 00:21:25.839 if you don't blindly accept what I'm telling you about 302 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.359 the parasitic elites, you should be able to actually look 303 00:21:29.359 --> 00:21:31.720 around and see it on your own, look at how 304 00:21:31.759 --> 00:21:34.200 everything is just set up in a way that it's 305 00:21:34.200 --> 00:21:36.039 a carrot on a string and it's taken from us. 306 00:21:36.079 --> 00:21:39.480 If you can't see that basic thing, then you're gonna 307 00:21:39.480 --> 00:21:45.240 have a hard time understanding anything about manipulation, because people 308 00:21:45.279 --> 00:21:50.319 do that when they're interpersonal relationships too. They just get 309 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:55.200 puppeted by other people, and there's an unconscious component to that. 310 00:21:55.279 --> 00:21:58.400 You know, I if I if I lose this person, 311 00:21:58.519 --> 00:22:02.359 or if I get excluded from a group, then you know, 312 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:04.240 I don't know what I'm going to do. So many 313 00:22:04.279 --> 00:22:08.839 people will stay in a toxic relationship with toxic dynamics 314 00:22:08.920 --> 00:22:12.880 or in a toxic group when doubts arise, because losing 315 00:22:12.920 --> 00:22:16.160 that it feels like losing yourself. You build your identity 316 00:22:16.200 --> 00:22:23.319 around everything. But then you know, you exploit people's vulnerability 317 00:22:23.519 --> 00:22:26.519 with that kind of stuff, Like nobody is waking up 318 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.839 one day and they're like, oh, I want to be 319 00:22:28.880 --> 00:22:33.559 a part of a spiritual movement. Usually, and within the 320 00:22:33.599 --> 00:22:38.440 context of psychology and hypnotherapy, we understand that a crisis 321 00:22:39.200 --> 00:22:42.720 is a transition from one point in life to another, 322 00:22:42.880 --> 00:22:46.279 and in between there's change, and that change is difficult 323 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:50.240 to accept and implement. So when people arrive at a 324 00:22:50.279 --> 00:22:55.000 point of spirituality, they're usually at rock bottom. They're feeling broken, 325 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.640 they're feeling like that spiritual part of themselves that you 326 00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:02.759 spoke about is now the catalyst for a search, right, 327 00:23:04.200 --> 00:23:07.440 So that's exactly when they're the most vulnerable. So you're 328 00:23:07.480 --> 00:23:11.400 talking about grief, trauma, divorce, illness. Those are the usual 329 00:23:11.480 --> 00:23:14.759 gateways that the New Age space will get its teeth 330 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:17.559 in you, or religion will find you. You know, you 331 00:23:17.640 --> 00:23:22.359 find religion. So instead of healing, that pain then gets monetized, 332 00:23:23.000 --> 00:23:26.640 you're sucked into the cycle of endless courses. If you're 333 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:28.920 fucking up your chakras and you got to get them healed, 334 00:23:29.160 --> 00:23:32.680 you got to go to a spiritual retreat, and you 335 00:23:32.759 --> 00:23:36.640 got to do like DNA activations and that crazy stuff. 336 00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:41.319 I just want people to be aware of pain point marketing, 337 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:45.200 that's what I call it. You're identifying somebody's wound and 338 00:23:45.240 --> 00:23:49.359 then you're offering an expensive fix. So people in crisis 339 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:55.079 kind of accept extreme ideas more easily, and they're desperate 340 00:23:55.119 --> 00:23:56.799 for relief. And I know there's gonna be assholes that 341 00:23:56.799 --> 00:23:58.160 are going to be like, well, that's the same thing 342 00:23:58.160 --> 00:24:01.400 that you do. You're a coach to those people, I 343 00:24:01.400 --> 00:24:04.480 would say, I'm actually in the book as a hypnotherapist. 344 00:24:05.279 --> 00:24:08.720 I charge one fifty per hour because that's the going 345 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:14.119 rate in that field. And oftentimes the people that want 346 00:24:14.119 --> 00:24:17.079 to do the deep self sabotage coaching, they're willing to 347 00:24:17.240 --> 00:24:21.319 pay you big bucks. But they're also they have the 348 00:24:21.359 --> 00:24:25.039 money available and they want to change, so they'll pay you. 349 00:24:25.519 --> 00:24:28.759 And imagine you're sitting with someone that is in such 350 00:24:28.759 --> 00:24:31.319 a state of crisis. Let's say they're rich. They think 351 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:34.400 they've had it all, but they're empty on the inside. 352 00:24:34.480 --> 00:24:37.839 They have all these traumas and fears on this surface, 353 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:40.519 and they're going to fight you to keep those traumas 354 00:24:40.519 --> 00:24:44.839 in fears. Somebody comes to me for hypnotherapy in general counseling, 355 00:24:45.359 --> 00:24:48.799 we're gonna mostly talk for an hour, and that person 356 00:24:48.880 --> 00:24:51.279 moves on whether they do anything or not. It's none 357 00:24:51.279 --> 00:24:54.960 of my damn business because I can't steal anyone's learning 358 00:24:55.000 --> 00:24:58.400 from them. How they learn is by doing so. They 359 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:02.960 have to implement the revelations. The insights and the tips 360 00:25:02.960 --> 00:25:04.960 that I give them in the hour and move on 361 00:25:05.039 --> 00:25:07.440 and come back and tell me the next week here's 362 00:25:07.480 --> 00:25:12.319 what I learned or whatever. But nobody wants to fight. 363 00:25:13.640 --> 00:25:16.920 It's very low return on investment to fight with someone, right, 364 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:20.119 So people need to take that into to consideration too, 365 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:23.359 because there's a lot of well intentioned counselors and coaches 366 00:25:23.440 --> 00:25:26.880 and people who have private practices, whether they're psychiatrists or 367 00:25:27.680 --> 00:25:33.480 conventional license psychologists, etc. That are doing the same work. 368 00:25:34.039 --> 00:25:38.359 And you're looking for who is knowledgeable, who has a 369 00:25:38.400 --> 00:25:44.680 high emotional intelligence and cares about you, and maybe certain 370 00:25:44.720 --> 00:25:47.000 services that they have might be steep, but it will 371 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.640 be worth it because you want somebody that's going to 372 00:25:49.640 --> 00:25:51.319 be on your team and fight for you. A lot 373 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.079 of these guys just don't give a shit about you. 374 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.000 They know you're desperate for relief, and so they'll tell 375 00:25:56.039 --> 00:25:58.759 you any old thing. They probably got a twenty five 376 00:25:58.799 --> 00:26:02.200 dollars certificate from some where or woke up one day 377 00:26:02.240 --> 00:26:04.680 and they were like, Hey, you know what if I 378 00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:07.000 just spend a little bit of my money and I 379 00:26:07.119 --> 00:26:09.680 make it look like I'm rich, I can sell you 380 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:13.880 something you know, and then convince you I have insight, and 381 00:26:14.359 --> 00:26:17.440 like you were speaking about, I know you see it 382 00:26:17.480 --> 00:26:19.240 because you interview a lot of people. There's a lot 383 00:26:19.279 --> 00:26:22.880 of regurgitators out there, there's a lot of fakers and frauds, 384 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:25.480 and you're just doing the interview because you're trying to 385 00:26:25.480 --> 00:26:27.640 get content out there and you're hoping that people can 386 00:26:27.680 --> 00:26:30.799 exercise their own discernment. But what the fuck is discernment? 387 00:26:30.920 --> 00:26:34.599 Discernment is common sense, and when you're in stress, you 388 00:26:34.640 --> 00:26:38.440 don't have common sense. You're operating solely out of fear. 389 00:26:39.359 --> 00:26:41.519 So it's not that you're stupid or dumb, is that 390 00:26:42.039 --> 00:26:45.960 you're so stressed your limpic system is turned on you 391 00:26:46.000 --> 00:26:50.240 can't ask the relevant questions beyond a certain point to 392 00:26:50.319 --> 00:26:54.519 save yourself from getting scammed. Right, So that's the way 393 00:26:54.519 --> 00:26:55.359 it goes. I'll let you ask. 394 00:26:55.519 --> 00:27:01.119 Un let's talk a little bit more about common programming 395 00:27:01.559 --> 00:27:05.079 and permission giving beliefs as you have here in your 396 00:27:05.079 --> 00:27:06.960 talking points. Tell us a little bit more. 397 00:27:09.240 --> 00:27:14.440 Oh, you know, the interesting thing about the common programming 398 00:27:14.559 --> 00:27:23.759 is that there's kind of like the resistance around this 399 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:28.359 topic because of the cultural conditioning. So I always talk 400 00:27:28.359 --> 00:27:31.440 about how anything you watch on a screen, the prefrontal 401 00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:35.799