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Speaker 1: is a CTAA accredited cognitive behavioral therapist, hypnotherapist, nutrition coach,
Speaker 1: mindfulness teacher, and specialist in the area of subconscious self sabotage. Jahann,
Speaker 1: welcome back. How you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Thanks for having me back, so much.
Speaker 1: For coming back on. With so many independent content creators
Speaker 1: now presenting the observations about the state of society, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of fundamental problems being revealed about the systems
Speaker 1: we operate under. And while there are amazing researchers presenting
Speaker 1: this information, there's still seemingly very few tangible solutions being offered,
Speaker 1: which is exactly what we'll be discussing today, as we
Speaker 1: try to do with every episode, but your work focuses
Speaker 1: on personal solutions to help people navigate the realm. Looking
Speaker 1: forward to sharing your insights with the audience. Before we
Speaker 1: get into this, it has been a while since you've
Speaker 1: been on. Remind us a little bit about yourself and
Speaker 1: let the audience know how they can find out more.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm just a regular guy that went through some stuff,
Speaker 2: and through experiencing that stuff, I had a rapid awakening
Speaker 2: process and I became very interested in hypnotherapy. So that's
Speaker 2: what I do. That's my main tool that I use,
Speaker 2: and I guess some people consider me an expert on
Speaker 2: subconscious self sabotage. It's not for everyone. It's for people
Speaker 2: who are really just tired of repeating the same patterns
Speaker 2: over and over. And you know, I used to be
Speaker 2: a musician. I still dabble in it a little bit,
Speaker 2: and you can find me on the Bonus Authenticity podcast.
Speaker 2: I release episodes at least once a week.
Speaker 1: And yeah, right on, man, So let's start with your
Speaker 1: observations of the state of society. With everything that's unfolded,
Speaker 1: there seems to be a lot of chaos, a lot
Speaker 1: of unsureness, a lot of people looking for spiritual answers
Speaker 1: and solutions, and unfortunately a little bit of psychosis in
Speaker 1: there as well. But I have to look at the
Speaker 1: course that we've taken over the past couple of decades
Speaker 1: and wonder if this is a natural course of evolution
Speaker 1: at all, or if it's been completely steered by these
Speaker 1: parasitic forces that we know of as a ruling class.
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on where we're at.
Speaker 2: Well, you just said it. It's the parasitic ruling class.
Speaker 2: It's the conglomerates, corporations. They're pulling the strings we often
Speaker 2: hear about, you know, the Fritz spring Meyer theory, bloodlines
Speaker 2: of the Illuminati and all that. It's more than thirteen
Speaker 2: it's it's more than just a few families doing this.
Speaker 2: It's a consolidated, deliberate attempt to steer humanity in any
Speaker 2: direction that is away from personal sovereignty, autonomy, any sense
Speaker 2: of real internal freedom. Everything has been co opted. I'm
Speaker 2: sure you might have listened to my podcast episode The
Speaker 2: Cult of Psychotherapy, where I unpack how that too was
Speaker 2: never intended to help anyone with their emotional or mental health.
Speaker 2: Everything around us is by design, and the issue with that,
Speaker 2: like you were saying, is that there's this spiritual component
Speaker 2: that usually accompanies desire for more freedom. Right with that,
Speaker 2: we have the New Age which has been co opted
Speaker 2: and would I would offend a lot of people by
Speaker 2: saying in this and I'm afraid to do so. Of
Speaker 2: what you hear in the New Age is useless stuff.
Speaker 2: People need to come to the point of awareness now
Speaker 2: where religion is also useless. It has done some things,
Speaker 2: like it's given us the Ten Commandments, et cetera. But
Speaker 2: in reality, the majority of spiritual knowledge that can be
Speaker 2: passed down lives within those ten commandments. It is how
Speaker 2: you apply those things that makes the difference. If you
Speaker 2: read all of the spiritual texts and you make comparisons,
Speaker 2: they're all essentially giving you one critical insight, and it
Speaker 2: is that all is within you. Everything is mind, and
Speaker 2: it is all inside of you. How well you can
Speaker 2: navigate depends on your internal relationship. And so the virtual
Speaker 2: seekers are now being guided towards the Internet, which you
Speaker 2: and I know is exactly what it sounds like, a net.
Speaker 2: It catches your attention and it's hard to pull away
Speaker 2: from them. So people who are well intentioned, like the
Speaker 2: listeners of this podcast, or the listeners of Boundless Authenticity podcast,
Speaker 2: or whoever else, will gravitate towards whoever appears to be
Speaker 2: an expert, because we've been conditioned since nineteen forty seven
Speaker 2: to accept this idea of expertise as a solution. There's
Speaker 2: a leader that will basically have all of the information,
Speaker 2: and that's coming from ancient archetypes. But it was perfected
Speaker 2: at the birth of Tavistock in nineteen forty seven in London,
Speaker 2: and it was just the Tavistock Clinic started in World
Speaker 2: War One, and it really began by research shell shock
Speaker 2: and soldiers, So that's what we now call PTSD, But
Speaker 2: that was never really about helping anybody. All it boils
Speaker 2: down to is we're going to run a series of
Speaker 2: experiments to figure out what are the common threads between
Speaker 2: humans and their relationship to trauma and how that changes behavior.
Speaker 2: And out of that came mass persuasion, how to change
Speaker 2: morale of the population, how to use propaganda techniques. Obviously,
Speaker 2: coming out of the World War a lot of that
Speaker 2: was focused around how do you keep populations obedient during
Speaker 2: wartime and in increasing moments of stress. How do you
Speaker 2: stop them from rebelling when they're under stress. So, when
Speaker 2: you understand that that everything in this world is geared
Speaker 2: around stopping you from rebelling, when you wake up to
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even use the term wake up, when you
Speaker 2: become aware that something in your environment is actually causing
Speaker 2: you to feel like a victim. Right, you could say
Speaker 2: that a lot of the you're not a victim of
Speaker 2: circumstances programming that you see repetitively in the spiritual and
Speaker 2: coaching arena is actually more tabs. Stop having their fingers
Speaker 2: in that pie as well, trying to divert your attention
Speaker 2: to radical self growth because it's a trick. It's a
Speaker 2: mirror look at yourself, so that all you see is
Speaker 2: yourself fundamentally. Then, because you're under stress, you're in survival
Speaker 2: mode and you're only focusing on the development of your
Speaker 2: quote unquote spiritual self, which fuels you towards narcissism. The
Speaker 2: same thing, there was a really stupid clip going around
Speaker 2: the internet viral about don't love your job, job your
Speaker 2: love with that dude from mind Valley and some weird lady.
Speaker 2: It is as stupid as it sounds okay. So the
Speaker 2: intention behind that is to use the idea that you
Speaker 2: shouldn't be working for someone else. You need to turn
Speaker 2: the thing that you love into a form of income.
Speaker 2: But that's not ideal for everyone. We need street sweepers,
Speaker 2: we need maids, nurses, doctors, we need people who can
Speaker 2: do the hard jobs that often are thankless, often may
Speaker 2: not lead to a life full of passion and purpose
Speaker 2: and all of that. Sometimes the you know, you talk
Speaker 2: to those people and they're burnt out all the time
Speaker 2: and they want to do something else, but they know
Speaker 2: that what they're doing is necessary. It may not necessarily
Speaker 2: check all their boxes. That's just an example. So that
Speaker 2: is a way of diverting people's attention and focus and
Speaker 2: who they are on the insight, and again they get
Speaker 2: us because most people are actually good. Most people just
Speaker 2: want to be loved. They just want to create love
Speaker 2: from whatever they experience, and they don't know that we
Speaker 2: have just been turned into you know, the smashing Pumpkins line.
Speaker 2: In spite of my rage, I'm just a rat in
Speaker 2: a cage. Right, So that's where we're at. And then
Speaker 2: you have the media, of course, which is more Tavistock
Speaker 2: and three letter agencies that they know that the most
Speaker 2: effective way to shape society is not through force, but
Speaker 2: actually through these moving pictures. It began with radio and newspapers.
Speaker 2: Who wants that fear of what you can hear on
Speaker 2: the radio war off and they realized they needed something stronger.
Speaker 2: Then they realized that the repetition of the images and
Speaker 2: stories and slogans could be easier implanted without you realizing
Speaker 2: it through the TV. Right, So, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2: they just use these three basic techniques, which would been
Speaker 2: number one, the repetition principle, which is you say something
Speaker 2: often enough and people are gonna accept that as truth.
Speaker 2: It only takes the subconscious mind two to three repetitions. Okay,
Speaker 2: when I say subconscious, I'm still talking in those terms
Speaker 2: as though there's a difference between conscious and subconscious. But realistically,
Speaker 2: when a person is stressed out to the max, which
Speaker 2: is what we're seeing right now in this present global culture,
Speaker 2: all is mind. There's very little critical thinking whatsoever. And
Speaker 2: so in hypnosis we talk about the critical faculty, which
Speaker 2: is the doorway to the unconscious processes that run everything.
Speaker 2: But that doorway becomes wide open when you're under this
Speaker 2: much stress, right. The other principle is the authority principle
Speaker 2: that I spoke about a little bit earlier. Put somebody
Speaker 2: in a butcher coat or a lab coat or a
Speaker 2: general's uniform, and the public is going to obey that.
Speaker 2: That's why programming from Gray's Anatomy and medical shows and
Speaker 2: stuff work and sell so well because of the authority principle.
Speaker 2: They can tell you anything. There's also the reason why
Speaker 2: you watch certain TV shows, from The Walking Dead to
Speaker 2: anything on the CW superhero shows, you notice that they
Speaker 2: dress a very particular way and compare the way that
Speaker 2: they're dressed to like Dean and Sam in Supernatural. It's
Speaker 2: a very particular color scheme, a particular dress code, usually
Speaker 2: a well tailored T shirt and a long sleeve shirt
Speaker 2: or a jacket or something over the top, using certain
Speaker 2: colors and hues, and that all also engages the authority
Speaker 2: principle causes you to follow that person as though there're
Speaker 2: somewhat I guess like you, but they know a lot
Speaker 2: more about a particular topic or something within an emotional context.
Speaker 2: So then nicking news emotional triggers like fear and sex
Speaker 2: or outrage to just basically bypass any rational faculties that
Speaker 2: you have, right, And that's actually just the formula of
Speaker 2: modern advertising and the twenty four hour news cycles. That's
Speaker 2: why CNN changed their name from CNN to breaking News
Speaker 2: on paper. Right. You hardly ever hear this is CNN anymore.
Speaker 2: You'll always hear breaking news and they go right into something,
Speaker 2: and a lot of the time, if you sit there,
Speaker 2: you realize, wait a minute, this actually isn't even urgent.
Speaker 2: But just because they've said breaking news before, that limbic
Speaker 2: system gets activated and you blindly accept information. Whether you
Speaker 2: can try to accept or reject that depends on your
Speaker 2: level of stress at the moment, depends on what you
Speaker 2: put in your body. I like to use the example
Speaker 2: of Gosh his name escapes me because I haven't talked
Speaker 2: about this in a while, but he was the producer
Speaker 2: and creator of Gilligan's Island and people were reaching out
Speaker 2: to him sending letters basically saying, why do you have
Speaker 2: those people trapped on that island? We have the resources,
Speaker 2: we can go and save them. And that was the
Speaker 2: moment he realized that people were stupid. I think his
Speaker 2: name is Sherwood Schwartz or something. Like that, and that
Speaker 2: goes to show you the effect of television back in
Speaker 2: a time period where the technology wasn't that advanced, you know,
Speaker 2: when people were not.
Speaker 1: They can make anyone an expert, anyone that they handpick
Speaker 1: that is willing to carry a certain narrative. They don't
Speaker 1: even have to be educated in whatever they're trying to promote.
Speaker 1: They just have to be the one that plays the
Speaker 1: part of the expert. And you can have an entire
Speaker 1: population swaying their opinion on one thing or another because
Speaker 1: of this douchebag that they decided was an expert. It's crazy.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to something you were saying
Speaker 1: about the new age spirituality traps new age or otherwise.
Speaker 1: Right now it's being promoted is the information and the
Speaker 1: knowledge and the spiritual wisdom, but zero application, only the
Speaker 1: rewarding of understanding certain spiritual concepts to a certain degree.
Speaker 1: But those that are preaching these same concepts are addicted,
Speaker 1: are sexual devians, or have other huge, major problems in
Speaker 1: their life, but they know some heavy duty spiritual stuff.
Speaker 1: So there are going to be the new face of
Speaker 1: whatever spiritual movement is come about. So this is another
Speaker 1: problem that I see we're facing right now.
Speaker 2: Well, you and I share that common bond. We came
Speaker 2: up in you know, the Age of Awakening. We were
Speaker 2: both spurred very much by our interests in fringe topics,
Speaker 2: paranormal conspiracy, and spirituality. Right we both are very, according
Speaker 2: to the narrative, spiritually aware, but also aware on a
Speaker 2: level outside of that due to our ability to critically think.
Speaker 2: So I don't feel like you and I probably have
Speaker 2: fallen into the traps that everyone else has. The issue
Speaker 2: with the New Age programming is that if that information
Speaker 2: was inherently empowering at all, we would not have any
Speaker 2: access to it. Okay, it's that it's that simple and
Speaker 2: sad in the reality of it, and a lot of
Speaker 2: people will argue. Probably people are arguing and turning this
Speaker 2: episode off right now because I've touched on something that
Speaker 2: they don't want to accept. Ultimately, no one should be
Speaker 2: able to tell you what your reality is, how to worship,
Speaker 2: who to worship. Ultimately, if you get right down to
Speaker 2: the deepest, darkest parts of you and you figure out
Speaker 2: how to remove those things, there's a part of your
Speaker 2: brain that needs to be connected to your spiritual self
Speaker 2: or you will die. It has been measured in atheists
Speaker 2: that these parts of your brain, they will shut off
Speaker 2: over time if you constantly deny the concept of God
Speaker 2: to a degree that you just you know, you don't
Speaker 2: even want to acknowledge anything in that way. And so
Speaker 2: there's so many different ways that we get sucked into that.
Speaker 2: There's tons of psychological manipulation between the New Age spirituality
Speaker 2: and other sources of worship as well. It's all the same,
Speaker 2: and it's the allure of belonging. Humans are literally wired
Speaker 2: for connection. We want to have family, we want to
Speaker 2: have a tribe, we want to have a purpose. New
Speaker 2: Age and religious organizations know that, and they use it
Speaker 2: against us. The New Age is basically offering things like
Speaker 2: we see a lot of the cosmic family type deal
Speaker 2: and it's the best way I can describe it. For
Speaker 2: this purpose, it's promising you that you're a part of
Speaker 2: a chosen generation. We hear the chosen ones a lot
Speaker 2: in so many different places. We're supposed to be here
Speaker 2: to raise the planet's vibration. Right, logically, we live and
Speaker 2: we die. Okay, if there is a group of us
Speaker 2: that are supposed to raise the vibration, what happens when
Speaker 2: we die? Who comes along after that. If you don't
Speaker 2: ask those questions and actually just be honest about it,
Speaker 2: then you're not gonna want to hear anything else. And
Speaker 2: so it preys on our deep need to be accepted
Speaker 2: and loved and put on a pedestal and seen as
Speaker 2: something special above others. Right, it's like identity fusion. Really,
Speaker 2: it's your sense of self is going to merge with
Speaker 2: this group, and you can't leave or deny the information
Speaker 2: or allow yourself, the patient's and the grace to think
Speaker 2: critically about it, because you don't want to leave the community.
Speaker 2: You don't want to upset the community because they've gotten
Speaker 2: in your head and now you're convinced that somehow, if
Speaker 2: you put that to the site, even just to think
Speaker 2: about it, you would abandon your soul's mission. Way right,
Speaker 2: anybody could listen to what I'm saying, then go back
Speaker 2: and scroll through your Instagram feed and listen to what
Speaker 2: they say, and you realize exactly what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: You know, if you don't resonate, your vibration is high enough.
Speaker 2: You know, you also see that with the conspiracy trying
Speaker 2: too where it's like you know, you have cognitive dissonance
Speaker 2: if you don't blindly accept what I'm telling you about
Speaker 2: the parasitic elites, you should be able to actually look
Speaker 2: around and see it on your own, look at how
Speaker 2: everything is just set up in a way that it's
Speaker 2: a carrot on a string and it's taken from us.
Speaker 2: If you can't see that basic thing, then you're gonna
Speaker 2: have a hard time understanding anything about manipulation, because people
Speaker 2: do that when they're interpersonal relationships too. They just get
Speaker 2: puppeted by other people, and there's an unconscious component to that.
Speaker 2: You know, I if I if I lose this person,
Speaker 2: or if I get excluded from a group, then you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm going to do. So many
Speaker 2: people will stay in a toxic relationship with toxic dynamics
Speaker 2: or in a toxic group when doubts arise, because losing
Speaker 2: that it feels like losing yourself. You build your identity
Speaker 2: around everything. But then you know, you exploit people's vulnerability
Speaker 2: with that kind of stuff, Like nobody is waking up
Speaker 2: one day and they're like, oh, I want to be
Speaker 2: a part of a spiritual movement. Usually, and within the
Speaker 2: context of psychology and hypnotherapy, we understand that a crisis
Speaker 2: is a transition from one point in life to another,
Speaker 2: and in between there's change, and that change is difficult
Speaker 2: to accept and implement. So when people arrive at a
Speaker 2: point of spirituality, they're usually at rock bottom. They're feeling broken,
Speaker 2: they're feeling like that spiritual part of themselves that you
Speaker 2: spoke about is now the catalyst for a search, right,
Speaker 2: So that's exactly when they're the most vulnerable. So you're
Speaker 2: talking about grief, trauma, divorce, illness. Those are the usual
Speaker 2: gateways that the New Age space will get its teeth
Speaker 2: in you, or religion will find you. You know, you
Speaker 2: find religion. So instead of healing, that pain then gets monetized,
Speaker 2: you're sucked into the cycle of endless courses. If you're
Speaker 2: fucking up your chakras and you got to get them healed,
Speaker 2: you got to go to a spiritual retreat, and you
Speaker 2: got to do like DNA activations and that crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: I just want people to be aware of pain point marketing,
Speaker 2: that's what I call it. You're identifying somebody's wound and
Speaker 2: then you're offering an expensive fix. So people in crisis
Speaker 2: kind of accept extreme ideas more easily, and they're desperate
Speaker 2: for relief. And I know there's gonna be assholes that
Speaker 2: are going to be like, well, that's the same thing
Speaker 2: that you do. You're a coach to those people, I
Speaker 2: would say, I'm actually in the book as a hypnotherapist.
Speaker 2: I charge one fifty per hour because that's the going
Speaker 2: rate in that field. And oftentimes the people that want
Speaker 2: to do the deep self sabotage coaching, they're willing to
Speaker 2: pay you big bucks. But they're also they have the
Speaker 2: money available and they want to change, so they'll pay you.
Speaker 2: And imagine you're sitting with someone that is in such
Speaker 2: a state of crisis. Let's say they're rich. They think
Speaker 2: they've had it all, but they're empty on the inside.
Speaker 2: They have all these traumas and fears on this surface,
Speaker 2: and they're going to fight you to keep those traumas
Speaker 2: in fears. Somebody comes to me for hypnotherapy in general counseling,
Speaker 2: we're gonna mostly talk for an hour, and that person
Speaker 2: moves on whether they do anything or not. It's none
Speaker 2: of my damn business because I can't steal anyone's learning
Speaker 2: from them. How they learn is by doing so. They
Speaker 2: have to implement the revelations. The insights and the tips
Speaker 2: that I give them in the hour and move on
Speaker 2: and come back and tell me the next week here's
Speaker 2: what I learned or whatever. But nobody wants to fight.
Speaker 2: It's very low return on investment to fight with someone, right,
Speaker 2: So people need to take that into to consideration too,
Speaker 2: because there's a lot of well intentioned counselors and coaches
Speaker 2: and people who have private practices, whether they're psychiatrists or
Speaker 2: conventional license psychologists, etc. That are doing the same work.
Speaker 2: And you're looking for who is knowledgeable, who has a
Speaker 2: high emotional intelligence and cares about you, and maybe certain
Speaker 2: services that they have might be steep, but it will
Speaker 2: be worth it because you want somebody that's going to
Speaker 2: be on your team and fight for you. A lot
Speaker 2: of these guys just don't give a shit about you.
Speaker 2: They know you're desperate for relief, and so they'll tell
Speaker 2: you any old thing. They probably got a twenty five
Speaker 2: dollars certificate from some where or woke up one day
Speaker 2: and they were like, Hey, you know what if I
Speaker 2: just spend a little bit of my money and I
Speaker 2: make it look like I'm rich, I can sell you
Speaker 2: something you know, and then convince you I have insight, and
Speaker 2: like you were speaking about, I know you see it
Speaker 2: because you interview a lot of people. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of regurgitators out there, there's a lot of fakers and frauds,
Speaker 2: and you're just doing the interview because you're trying to
Speaker 2: get content out there and you're hoping that people can
Speaker 2: exercise their own discernment. But what the fuck is discernment?
Speaker 2: Discernment is common sense, and when you're in stress, you
Speaker 2: don't have common sense. You're operating solely out of fear.
Speaker 2: So it's not that you're stupid or dumb, is that
Speaker 2: you're so stressed your limpic system is turned on you
Speaker 2: can't ask the relevant questions beyond a certain point to
Speaker 2: save yourself from getting scammed. Right, So that's the way
Speaker 2: it goes. I'll let you ask.
Speaker 1: Un let's talk a little bit more about common programming
Speaker 1: and permission giving beliefs as you have here in your
Speaker 1: talking points. Tell us a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, the interesting thing about the common programming
Speaker 2: is that there's kind of like the resistance around this
Speaker 2: topic because of the cultural conditioning. So I always talk
Speaker 2: about how anything you watch on a screen, the prefrontal
Speaker 2: cortex deactivates, and that just allows information to become the
Speaker 2: direct input into other areas of the brain. It's difficult
Speaker 2: to reject information even when you disagree with it. I
Speaker 2: talk about how the limbic system is a recording device,
Speaker 2: and it wants you to stay the same. It wants
Speaker 2: to keep you from having a painful experience that you
Speaker 2: had before. And so that becomes problematic because if you
Speaker 2: are also just trying to do your best and you
Speaker 2: feel like you're doing something that is good for you
Speaker 2: and it turns out to be bad, well, naturally you
Speaker 2: don't want to hear that at all. Right, So you
Speaker 2: have these I guess, these pathways that are activated in
Speaker 2: the brain. The main one that I would talk about
Speaker 2: is the stress fear memory pathway, and it's from your
Speaker 2: prefrontal cortex to the nuclear cuccumbents through something called the
Speaker 2: ventro tech mental area, which very simply deals with the
Speaker 2: distribution of different neurotransmitters, and then it reaches your hippocampus.
Speaker 2: So imagine you come across a new scenario in your
Speaker 2: life and you don't have a reference from childhood, then
Speaker 2: you can't just say that that's childhood trauma because I
Speaker 2: couldn't tell you how many times I've sat with a
Speaker 2: person poked around in their subconscious mind and there was
Speaker 2: no trauma to link back to this thing. Right. So
Speaker 2: you see a lot of that these days, where people
Speaker 2: are coming up with responses to life based on what
Speaker 2: they've recorded in their hippocampus, which would be like a
Speaker 2: tape recording, right, records everything you've seen in your childhood,
Speaker 2: your teenage years, in a movie on YouTube, a social
Speaker 2: media clip. Right, your brain just believes that you're the
Speaker 2: person on the screen. So adding that to the category
Speaker 2: of regular childhood trauma, then you get the basic common programming, right.
Speaker 2: And so the reason why you're self sabotaging is either
Speaker 2: because you learn something in childhood as you went through
Speaker 2: Jean Pj's Lovely stages of cognitive development from zero to seven.
Speaker 2: You want to take in all this as much information
Speaker 2: as you can so you can survive from seven to fourteen.
Speaker 2: You're testing that in the environment to see whether it
Speaker 2: gives you a reward or not. The reward is often
Speaker 2: any motion or the behavior triggers certain neurotransmitter responses in
Speaker 2: the brain, so you say, okay, that's good. Your LIMITX
Speaker 2: system says, okay, that's good, even if it was bad
Speaker 2: for me, And from fourteen to twenty one you're doing
Speaker 2: the same thing. You're just testing and discarding programming. I
Speaker 2: like to differentiate between programming and conditioning. We know BF.
Speaker 2: Skinner's work on conditioning shows us how everything is behavior based,
Speaker 2: reward based, so you execute behaviors because you get a reward.
Speaker 2: Programming is usually linguistic, language based, the things that we
Speaker 2: think of inside of our head. I'm laying the groundwork
Speaker 2: for everything that's going to come next. So it's like
Speaker 2: from twenty one then to about thirty, what's happening is
Speaker 2: that your brain has learned a whole lot of stuff,
Speaker 2: but it's not fully developed. So this is why teenagers
Speaker 2: are so difficult to deal with. They don't have fully
Speaker 2: developed brains. In your twenties, what do they teach you.
Speaker 2: They condition you to live fast and die young. So
Speaker 2: you make all of these choices that destroy your brain,
Speaker 2: destroy your serotonin, destroy your dopamine. We are now surrounded
Speaker 2: by a sea of screens which destroy the prefrontal cortex.
Speaker 2: Rational thinking and willpower becomes incredibly weakened. And so those
Speaker 2: are basically the ways that you get programmed after thirty five.
Speaker 2: We've had all the different experts. I like to give
Speaker 2: credit where it's where it's due. Joe Dispense it has
Speaker 2: a body of work on this, even though I'm not
Speaker 2: completely sold on him because of the whole new age
Speaker 2: thing I just talked about. But the point is that
Speaker 2: he can present scientific evidence on paper that shows brain scans, etc.
Speaker 2: Which is what you need to look at. And you
Speaker 2: know that it's very hard to make changes to your
Speaker 2: default conditioning and programming because you're so set in your
Speaker 2: ways after thirty five because of the development of the
Speaker 2: brain being finalized. Okay, but that doesn't mean that nothing
Speaker 2: can change. We also have all of the research that
Speaker 2: says that meditation can slowly rewire the brain. Changing repetitive
Speaker 2: patterns of behavior can slowly rewire the brain. And all
Speaker 2: of that goes together with understanding where your trauma comes from.
Speaker 2: Is it implanted through culture or is it your childhood
Speaker 2: traumas following and so you know, along with that then rejection, resentment,
Speaker 2: the grudges that you hold, the regret that you have
Speaker 2: formed in your life from missing out on certain things
Speaker 2: or realizing that you made the best choice that you
Speaker 2: could have, but it wasn't necessarily good. In a lot
Speaker 2: of ways, you lose relationships with people, etc. Onliness that
Speaker 2: you feel in society. A lot of my clients are men.
Speaker 2: They feel alone as a man, because, let's face it,
Speaker 2: women and men are two different entities altogether. They're wired differently,
Speaker 2: their brains are different, and communication between people is so
Speaker 2: difficult now because of all of the things that I've
Speaker 2: mentioned before that are dividing us. So you have people
Speaker 2: that have fear of success and fear of failure that
Speaker 2: are all coming from different places, and they're all working
Speaker 2: together in the same group of programming, and these things
Speaker 2: can become apparent at any point in your life. People
Speaker 2: will tend to any kind of belief. Sorry, they will
Speaker 2: tend to hold on as hard as they can to
Speaker 2: any kind of belief just because they feel comfortable with that,
Speaker 2: even when those beliefs are detrimental to growth and being.
Speaker 2: So you have people with the most common linguistic programming,
Speaker 2: which is I'm a victim, I've been molested, i am broken,
Speaker 2: I'm abused, I'm traumatized, and they don't have any emotional
Speaker 2: reference for what it's like to be safe, and therefore
Speaker 2: they have no programming for that either, so it's hard
Speaker 2: to condition them or program them or deprogram them out
Speaker 2: of that in any way. Permission giving beliefs comes in
Speaker 2: where a lot of the self sabotage stuff is based
Speaker 2: around that. Because it's the exact same as addictive thinking.
Speaker 2: This model has been used by the Beck Institute to
Speaker 2: basically determine the ways that people will justify beliefs and behaviors.
Speaker 2: It's insidious because it's it's behind that attraction to have
Speaker 2: that second or third cup of coffee when you're already
Speaker 2: woken up. You know, after one cup of coffee you're
Speaker 2: into very dangerous territory in terms of the dose of caffeine,
Speaker 2: probably moving into an unhealthy dose of caffeine, which while
Speaker 2: on a cognitive level you don't notice anything, your body's
Speaker 2: screaming for help. Right, I'll just have that cookie that
Speaker 2: I want. You know, I'm craving a cookie. Then you
Speaker 2: eat the whole fucking package, and you know, you say, oh, well,
Speaker 2: I didn't gain it in any way yesterday, So I'll
Speaker 2: just eat another pack of Oreos today, and so on
Speaker 2: and so forth. You're way above your calorie intake for
Speaker 2: the day. And then two or three weeks later you
Speaker 2: realize how the hell did I gain fifteen pounds, right,
Speaker 2: and you begin to spiral out because you don't know
Speaker 2: how to correct that, because you have people that literally
Speaker 2: sit around in labs and make everything more addictive, from
Speaker 2: the alcohol to the energy drinks, to the coffee, to
Speaker 2: the tea, to the the popcorn and the cookies and
Speaker 2: the chips and everything. People get addicted through the breaking
Speaker 2: down of the neurotransmitter pathways to YouTube or Netflix, so
Speaker 2: they're like, I'll just watch another episode. Whatever I get
Speaker 2: emotionally from that feels great, and it's hard to override
Speaker 2: the addictive properties of the chemicals themselves. So couple that
Speaker 2: with beliefs about it. Imagine if you're thinking like core ideas,
Speaker 2: like if I feel or think something unpleasant, I can
Speaker 2: get rid of that by avoiding it with food or drink,
Speaker 2: core drugs or television. And really what a person's saying is,
Speaker 2: I just don't understand how to process unpleasant feelings, right,
Speaker 2: And that's the Actually, the emotional language has a lot
Speaker 2: to do with understanding. I can't tolerate those unpleasant feelings,
Speaker 2: so I'm just gonna avoid that. A lot of people
Speaker 2: like to narrow that down to avoidant personality, but in essence,
Speaker 2: human beings are the same as rats. In science, they
Speaker 2: call it risk version, so both humans and rats are
Speaker 2: risk conversive. That's why rats work so well. In every experiment, right,
Speaker 2: you get a lot of beliefs, permission giving beliefs like
Speaker 2: I can't cope as others can. I'm needy and weak.
Speaker 2: It's usually what becomes before putting something in your mouth
Speaker 2: or smoking weed. Other hard drugs also follow that line.
Speaker 2: Those beliefs get activated to by anxiety or some kind
Speaker 2: of fear. Everyone's pretty much a victim of these. Will
Speaker 2: tell ourselves it's not hurting anyone, so what's the problem.
Speaker 2: You use that to give yourself permission to numb yourself
Speaker 2: or indulge in something bad. People with that belief running
Speaker 2: tend to think of themselves as rebels or nonconformists as well.
Speaker 2: That's how they will look at a person that you know,
Speaker 2: they've got blue or green hair and they're dressed like
Speaker 2: a goth or something. They see themselves as a nonconformist.
Speaker 2: And a lot of those guys are really sweet, really nice,
Speaker 2: and very intelligent. But then there's the other side of
Speaker 2: that too, where they feel like going along with that
Speaker 2: means they have to be an addict. I fell victim
Speaker 2: to that myself in the music industry. I felt like
Speaker 2: being an addict meant I was a tortured artist, and
Speaker 2: I could operate from that. But a lot of it
Speaker 2: is just about seeking to neglect the obligations and responsibilities
Speaker 2: of being a functional human. It's difficult to be a
Speaker 2: functional sober human. People will use permission giving beliefs like
Speaker 2: my way is the best way. I need to be
Speaker 2: in complete control. People will self sabotage because of those,
Speaker 2: because they believe that they're always right and so they're
Speaker 2: in control. They believe that sex, drugs, and sugar and
Speaker 2: alcohol aren't a problem. People tell themselves in addiction a
Speaker 2: lot of the time, this isn't a problem for me.
Speaker 2: I can stop whenever I want. Because behind that, they're
Speaker 2: protecting the sense of omnipotence that they get when they're
Speaker 2: running on caffeine or sniffing coke or whatever the case is.
Speaker 2: You just see it a lot. That's why people can
Speaker 2: do heroine and function at an office job and you
Speaker 2: would not know that your buddy across the hall from
Speaker 2: you John is a heroin addict, or he's on fentanyl
Speaker 2: or anything like that. You know, people find ways of
Speaker 2: using just enough permission giving beliefs are I can't tolerate boredom.
Speaker 2: Everyone can do whatever they want. If I feel like
Speaker 2: doing something, I am free to go ahead and do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the the way that people weaponize free
Speaker 2: will against themselves, and our.
Speaker 1: Systems just perpetuate this, especially our medical system and our
Speaker 1: healthcare system, the mental health care system provide band aid
Speaker 1: solutions which actually add to the problems and contribute to
Speaker 1: the addictions that people have as well. So it's a
Speaker 1: vicious cycle that's almost impossible to get out of if
Speaker 1: you're looking for solutions from the system itself.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, any idea that's based around entitlement that you
Speaker 2: can do whatever you want, or anybody can do whatever
Speaker 2: they want, regardless of anybody else's needs, or regardless of
Speaker 2: what is morally, ethically and spiritually righting. That's an attack
Speaker 2: on you as a spiritual being. That's a part of
Speaker 2: the spiritual warfare. Permission giving beliefs can be any idea
Speaker 2: or automatic thought that sound like just one ice cream,
Speaker 2: just one coffee, one beer, one slice of chocolate cake.
Speaker 2: As long as I'm careful, drugs won't hurt me. A
Speaker 2: lot of people with caffeine addiction or alcoholism are like,
Speaker 2: without it, life be boring. You know, I need something
Speaker 2: to perk me up or calm me down. Nobody will
Speaker 2: find out it's going to help me to relax. Like
Speaker 2: I could go on and on and on, but I
Speaker 2: know that people are listening to this right now, like,
Speaker 2: oh fuck, that's me or that has been me. Right
Speaker 2: as you were saying, there's a lot of people in
Speaker 2: the spiritual community that are fakers, and they think that
Speaker 2: they can get away with it. So they think that
Speaker 2: they can drink or use drugs or do whatever because
Speaker 2: their fucking vibration is going to alchemize it. Right, Spiritual
Speaker 2: people don't get fat, sick or cancer or heart disease.
Speaker 2: Right Because you're saying that because you're grateful, you're selling
Speaker 2: other people the idea that just because you're grateful and
Speaker 2: you meditate and you do ayahuasca, that you're better than
Speaker 2: everyone else and you're hardware now doesn't work the same
Speaker 2: as everyone else. It's very egotistical, very immature, dangerous ideas
Speaker 2: to share with people, because most people are already looking
Speaker 2: for excuses to self destruct or to numb some pain,
Speaker 2: or whatever the case is, to justify unhealthy lifestyle choices,
Speaker 2: et cetera. You know, so permission giving beliefs to some
Speaker 2: that up are just these linguistic statements that we used
Speaker 2: to self justify any pattern of behavior, and they're all
Speaker 2: linked and to the documented beliefs about addictive behavior. So
Speaker 2: you can literally check. You can literally read a textbook
Speaker 2: called Cognitive Therapy of Substance Abuse is by the Back Institute.
Speaker 2: And you know, that's how we we justify porn and
Speaker 2: shopping and destroying our relationships and everything else. That's how
Speaker 2: we tear the whole chance at a good life down.
Speaker 1: You know, this is the kind of information that should
Speaker 1: be taught to children before anything else. The awareness of
Speaker 1: the programming, the awareness of the things that could lead
Speaker 1: us into all the traps that you just mentioned. Being
Speaker 1: aware of this from a very young age could save
Speaker 1: people from going through a lot of the problems that
Speaker 1: most of society is facing right now. So super important information.
Speaker 1: If we could only translate that to some kind of
Speaker 1: education for younger people, that be absolutely amazing. I want
Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about the serial box hypothesis.
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 2: The serial box hypothesis is just a name that I've
Speaker 2: given to all of that that I mentioned before. It's
Speaker 2: that every program, every linguistic challenge in your mind is
Speaker 2: like a serial box. Every belief is like a serial box.
Speaker 2: Imagine emptying a box of fruity pebbles, and each pebble
Speaker 2: is an idea or a thought or an emotional response
Speaker 2: that is linked to a program called fruity Pebbles. So
Speaker 2: that's the same as I'm not enough. When you are
Speaker 2: faced with stress and it triggers that program Fruity Pebbles,
Speaker 2: you're basically going to have a thought that is linked
Speaker 2: to that program. So, like I said, you replace that
Speaker 2: with I'm not enough, then you're going to have every
Speaker 2: thought possible that's linked to that knocking around in your head.
Speaker 2: And until you become aware of it and question it,
Speaker 2: it's not going to empty out. So it's like pouring
Speaker 2: a bowl of fruity pebbles, right, You empty that box
Speaker 2: by eating the cereal and you get rid of it.
Speaker 2: Then eventually you throw away the box. And so there
Speaker 2: needs to be more emphasis within the entire mental and
Speaker 2: emotional health industry around unpacking using correct questioning frameworks, so
Speaker 2: that through the process of self realization and self insight,
Speaker 2: remember that internal wisdom that is the driving force between
Speaker 2: all deep spiritual breakthroughs and just being normal that we
Speaker 2: were referencing at the beginning. That's how you grow. The
Speaker 2: information out there is not inherently empowering at all. So
Speaker 2: you must delete those linguistic, programmed thought patterns that are
Speaker 2: linked to those blanket headings I'm not enough, I'm not
Speaker 2: safe enough, et cetera, et cetera. Those permission giving beliefs
Speaker 2: all fall into that category. Okay, so the work isn't
Speaker 2: done just because you get hypnotized. The real work begins
Speaker 2: when you come out of it and you talk about
Speaker 2: what you experience. Then you ask questions about that. The
Speaker 2: work is in journaling and realizing, oh shit, this repetitive thing,
Speaker 2: this self justification, or this way that I see this
Speaker 2: other person, whatever it is, that's all coming from inside
Speaker 2: of me, and Okay, I'm gonna get really curious about
Speaker 2: what that is. In meditation, it's not just glorified breathing.
Speaker 2: It's saying, okay, what do I see? What do I smell?
Speaker 2: What do I hear? What am I thinking in relationship
Speaker 2: to that? What impulses seemed to come from different direct
Speaker 2: in my mind? And within that landscape, people experience those
Speaker 2: things differently through their visual faculty. People have smells, people
Speaker 2: have auditory responses. Question all of those things, for what
Speaker 2: purpose do I have that thought? What does that mean
Speaker 2: to me? Because what and why are actually two different
Speaker 2: categories inside of the landscape of the mind. Why usually
Speaker 2: tells you the meaning that you assign to things, and
Speaker 2: what tells you the reward that you get for the
Speaker 2: behavior or the emotional response. So when people are asking
Speaker 2: themselves questions like that, you will grow at a much
Speaker 2: faster rate than taking some fuck cards course online. Okay,
Speaker 2: and I'm not necessarily crying down my colleagues, but this
Speaker 2: is why I've been banned on the internet since twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: because I very simply became aware of what I wasn't
Speaker 2: aware of by asking questions through reading these cognitive psychology books,
Speaker 2: Cognitive Therapy for Substance abuse, Cognitive Therapy for Anxiety and depression,
Speaker 2: Dialectical behavior therapy textbooks, CBT THAT textbooks asking questions about
Speaker 2: the discrepancies that I noticed in the protocols that were
Speaker 2: assigned to certain things. Okay, and a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't do that because they don't want to lose their license,
Speaker 2: or if they do that and they ask questions, they
Speaker 2: get hauled into somebody else's office and they're told don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So, self responsibility is how we break free and we
Speaker 2: learn to speak to ourselves with more respect and more curiosity.
Speaker 2: Curiosity is a form of love. I say that all
Speaker 2: the time. Okay, there's nothing wrong with asking questions.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about how people can exist
Speaker 1: in the realm and feel comfortable. We're discussing about how
Speaker 1: so many people are running away from their feelings depression,
Speaker 1: turning to drugs, because once you start becoming aware of
Speaker 1: the nature of our systems, it can get a bit depressing.
Speaker 1: I went through some depression whenever I started becoming aware
Speaker 1: of things. A lot of people are looking at gnostic
Speaker 1: spiritual concepts, wondering if we're recycled, if we're reincarnated to
Speaker 1: come back to this shithole of a realm that's controlled
Speaker 1: by lizard people, why would I want to do that?
Speaker 1: What is the point of this realm? What would you
Speaker 1: tell people that may snap them out of that negative
Speaker 1: thought pattern.
Speaker 2: Well, Chris, I'm gonna gas let you right now. You
Speaker 2: chose to come here and have that experience. Listen, listen,
Speaker 2: these people are very clever and they have explanations for
Speaker 2: everything because they understand, and if they don't have an
Speaker 2: explanation for it, the power power grid slips. Okay, that
Speaker 2: I call spiritual gaslighting. How dare you tell a woman
Speaker 2: that was raped by three men in a gang rape
Speaker 2: in an alley that she chose that and came to
Speaker 2: this reality to experience that. How disgusting of you? You
Speaker 2: understand that that just doesn't cut it. I love Dolora Scannon.
Speaker 2: I like her work, but I fundamentally do not agree
Speaker 2: that something happened and you were floating around in the
Speaker 2: spiritual realm and you said, hey, I want to get
Speaker 2: fucking rape today. You know that's not that. Nobody does that.
Speaker 2: Nobody does that. That is incredibly unloving to put that
Speaker 2: on people. Now, self responsibility is important, and that is
Speaker 2: how you break the power grid. Like I said before,
Speaker 2: because nobody's in charge of your healing and your level
Speaker 2: of intelligence except for you. You realize that they put
Speaker 2: us in front of cartoons when we're young, because that's
Speaker 2: the earliest mass media conditioning technique that they can come
Speaker 2: across besides conventional schooling. So you're being shaped by this
Speaker 2: power grade through various means to basically teach you when
Speaker 2: to laugh, what to laugh at, who to trust, what's normal.
Speaker 2: I like to call it like the Tom and Jerry
Speaker 2: programming thing, because in Tom and Jerry, if Tom ever
Speaker 2: caught Jerry, the show would be over in the first episode, right,
Speaker 2: And so that's how the system works. The system is
Speaker 2: Tom and we're all running around knowing that we have
Speaker 2: this deep discomfort with the way that things are set up.
Speaker 2: And so that's how you end up with people who
Speaker 2: are operating within let's say environmental institutions, environmental protection institutions.
Speaker 2: They're in stress, they're in fear. There's protocols, but you
Speaker 2: can't follow those protocols because if you actually did anything
Speaker 2: to save the environment, conglomerates and rich businessmen would suffer
Speaker 2: and lose a lot of money. Yeah, what do they
Speaker 2: need the money for if they print the money in
Speaker 2: the first place, You ask, well, without the illusion of money,
Speaker 2: without the illusion of an energy exchange, you can't be
Speaker 2: controlled because if we all lived in common unity in
Speaker 2: spite of our differences, which differences can make us stronger.
Speaker 2: If we agree to disagree, and we agree that whatever
Speaker 2: we do agree on, we can use that as a
Speaker 2: strength to build something new from. Then we can survive
Speaker 2: and thrive without having the experts and the businessmen and
Speaker 2: the government and all that. Traditionally we have all this
Speaker 2: information coming through the pipeline about government actually meaning mind control,
Speaker 2: and whether that's true or not true is neither here
Speaker 2: nor there. The point is is that you have people
Speaker 2: that want to run your life for you. They want
Speaker 2: to now put us in digital enslavement using the illusion
Speaker 2: of the energy exchange. You need money, but that is
Speaker 2: just so that they can continue to harvest your attempts
Speaker 2: at being a good person and then you get nothing
Speaker 2: out of it. If you look at like if you
Speaker 2: look at how threat is always leveraged in every arena
Speaker 2: and understand that that's not normal. That's not normal. If
Speaker 2: you look at the relationship between a lion and a gazelle,
Speaker 2: you know that gazelle knows that it has to play
Speaker 2: the game and it will be eaten. It is food. Okay,
Speaker 2: So there's at a certain level. There's that level of
Speaker 2: consent between the lion and the gazelle. The gazelle knows
Speaker 2: one day I'll get caught and get eaten, and if
Speaker 2: I get to live my life, then okay, so be it.
Speaker 2: So they have positioned themselves at the top of the
Speaker 2: food chain as the lions, so that they can use
Speaker 2: that against us and trick us into thinking, oh, you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm just doing a job, for example, So
Speaker 2: I have to feed my family, so I have to
Speaker 2: go along with this. The doctor knows what's best for me,
Speaker 2: so I have to go along with this, because who
Speaker 2: am I. I don't know anything about medicine. Right. You
Speaker 2: could easily just turn that on its head and say, okay,
Speaker 2: when I eat fried chicken, is my stomach get upset? Yeah?
Speaker 2: If the answer is yes, for you, that's damaging you.
Speaker 2: That's common sense. Don't fucking eat the fried chicken. Okay.
Speaker 2: If you know that when you wake up in the
Speaker 2: morning and you need ten cups of coffee to get
Speaker 2: through the day and you're wired but tired at night
Speaker 2: and you can't sleep and you're on that path, why
Speaker 2: are you doing that? That's common sense? I should just
Speaker 2: stick to the one cup. What are the reasons why
Speaker 2: I can't stick to the one cup? Why do I
Speaker 2: go to the pub every evening and drink a pint
Speaker 2: with my buddies and then I stumble home? What is
Speaker 2: damaging you yourself doing? What is the reward for that?
Speaker 2: That's common sense. If you know you're working a job
Speaker 2: and you don't like doing it, and you feel like
Speaker 2: you would be better off doing something else, don't quit
Speaker 2: your job. Think about what that something else is. Is
Speaker 2: that something you can make into a hobby and maybe
Speaker 2: making a few extra dollars to feed your family and
Speaker 2: have a great Christmas, or the perks that go along
Speaker 2: with having extra money to throw around? You know what
Speaker 2: is that? But don't quit your job because the New
Speaker 2: Age said so, or some coach on the internet said so,
Speaker 2: or because a conspiracy theorist said the government sucking us. Try. Yes,
Speaker 2: they are right, but use your common sense. Common sense
Speaker 2: is not so common. I used to hear that when
Speaker 2: I was growing up, and I wondered what it meant,
Speaker 2: and I realized as I got older, that's what it means.
Speaker 2: It's where we steal from ourselves. So to defeat that system,
Speaker 2: we have to take responsibility for ourselves, because at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, if digital id gets implemented and
Speaker 2: we don't speak out and strike back against it, start
Speaker 2: petitions in our neighborhood, push against the government. Don't vote
Speaker 2: for them, okay, don't vote for them. Nobody votes, because
Speaker 2: then that would force the system to say, okay, well,
Speaker 2: you know, is it rigged or not. You see a
Speaker 2: certain number of votes showing up, you realize did you vote?
Speaker 2: Did you vote, Chris John?
Speaker 1: Did you vote? No?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, something's wrong. Get angry at these people because,
Speaker 2: as David Ike says, as much as I don't like
Speaker 2: to reference him so much, it's the many versus the few. Right,
Speaker 2: Why don't we want to be in charge of our
Speaker 2: lives completely? All of that is stuff that we need
Speaker 2: to consider because it's not leading to progress. It's not
Speaker 2: going to be a good environment for our children. We
Speaker 2: complain about how the generations do this, that and the other,
Speaker 2: and we're always dividing ourselves between the generations, and we
Speaker 2: see that generations get dumber and more passive. Why is
Speaker 2: that because we complicit? We are complicit and complacent with
Speaker 2: our own mental and emotional slavery. It's because we say
Speaker 2: that we're just going to go along to get along.
Speaker 2: But it's not working for us. It never has, right
Speaker 2: of course, there you get these people that come along
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, but we need someone to lead
Speaker 2: us and guide us and do that. Okay, So why
Speaker 2: can't we all just communicate and share the burden? Okay?
Speaker 2: Because ultimately with leadership there's a lot of pressure on
Speaker 2: one person or a few people. And we have you know,
Speaker 2: too many podcasts, too many influencers, too many new stations,
Speaker 2: too many musicians on a stage yelling their beliefs at you,
Speaker 2: too many actors on a screen leveraging they're perceived expertise
Speaker 2: and importance, and we don't and we love it. We
Speaker 2: don't want to think about all of that and what
Speaker 2: it's actually pushing us towards. So I'll stop there, you know,
Speaker 2: think about Tom and Jerry and realizes that the cat
Speaker 2: chases the mouse, chaos ensues. There's no words needed, but
Speaker 2: the simplicity of that is where the conditioning is, and
Speaker 2: that's exactly what we're doing. Stop chasing the mouse, right.
Speaker 1: There's some wonderful insights. I want to get your thoughts
Speaker 1: on one more thing before we close out there seems
Speaker 1: to be this rise of people that are attempting to
Speaker 1: use magic and ritual to solve all their problems without
Speaker 1: doing any inner work or healing or of any kind,
Speaker 1: just relying on the esoteric knowledge that they heard on
Speaker 1: TikTok to do spells and get ahead in life.
Speaker 2: Well, that's coming from the people that are trying to
Speaker 2: kill us. That's that's what they use. And I know
Speaker 2: that for some people this is difficult to wrap your
Speaker 2: mind around, but there are energies that exist beyond the veil,
Speaker 2: if you will. There are these energies that are more
Speaker 2: than willing to help us. But the reason they're willing
Speaker 2: to help us is because we give them life by
Speaker 2: using them. One of the worst things that experiences that
Speaker 2: I ever had in my life was reading the Grand
Speaker 2: Keys of Solow just not even reading it out loud,
Speaker 2: but reading the incantations and stuff in that and trying
Speaker 2: to understand what was going on for the purpose of understanding,
Speaker 2: not for my own personal use. Called in these energies
Speaker 2: because they love when you pay them attention. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: why manifesting is dangerous. You know, I jokingly say, you're
Speaker 2: not going to squeeze your asshole together and manifest a
Speaker 2: million dollars. Yeah, Okay. How it actually works is you
Speaker 2: do things and you are thinking differently, so you act differently.
Speaker 2: You come across people in circumstances because you did something
Speaker 2: slightly different, and then all of a sudden, you make
Speaker 2: connections with other people. We need each other, we need
Speaker 2: that community. That's why I say we would survive and
Speaker 2: thrive on TikTok, the witchcraft thing. They're teaching all of
Speaker 2: the elements that they use in their secret meetings to
Speaker 2: bring in these energies that enhance their ability to do
Speaker 2: things quickly. That's why even when they do get negative
Speaker 2: repercussions to what they do, they never stop. They just
Speaker 2: continue and go again. Will just sacrifice another baby, We'll
Speaker 2: just kill another person. Will just get people to think
Speaker 2: negatively and distract them and use that energy. Because these
Speaker 2: beings that live beyond the spiritual and metaphysical planes that
Speaker 2: we can perceive only through personal insight are just willing
Speaker 2: to come across and give you something in a exchange.
Speaker 2: And that's why oftentimes when people manifest, you will if
Speaker 2: you research it, you will hear instances where somebody manifests
Speaker 2: a certain amount of money, like a thousand dollars in
Speaker 2: a week or two hundred thousand dollars or something like that.
Speaker 2: It comes at a cost. The person that's offering it
Speaker 2: wants something morally or spiritually valuable to you, and they
Speaker 2: want to take that from you, okay, And it's usually
Speaker 2: along the lines of sexual depravity and perversion, usually along
Speaker 2: the lines of getting stuck in a contractual cycle where
Speaker 2: they own you your imagery or likeness. I know that
Speaker 2: sounds about like the music and Hollywood industry, but it
Speaker 2: goes beyond. It goes right up the chain in businesses
Speaker 2: and things like that too. We'll give you what you
Speaker 2: need in exchange for all of you, all the best
Speaker 2: parts of you. So there's a lot that you can
Speaker 2: say about that, but people need to be acutely aware
Speaker 2: that slow and steady wins the race. Integrity wins the race.
Speaker 2: But people are allergic to integrity because we love quick fixes.
Speaker 2: We want it all now, and that's not wise because
Speaker 2: when those things come into your life, they will violate
Speaker 2: your mind and your body through spiritual warfare. They will
Speaker 2: co opt your thinking. That's why we have so many
Speaker 2: undiagnosed and diagnosed schizophrenics and bipolars and all that stuff,
Speaker 2: and they make this stuff up about brain chemistry when
Speaker 2: in reality, the very smallest percentage of it is brain
Speaker 2: chemistry and a large part of it is spiritual warfare.
Speaker 2: So the ones who can be helped with some small
Speaker 2: doses of medication can manage it, and the others are
Speaker 2: completely lost to the dark forces because they're difficult to
Speaker 2: deal with. You know, they're difficult. Nobody acknowledges except what
Speaker 2: Jerry Marzinski and his buddies. You know, there's a very
Speaker 2: small group of people combined that readily acknowledge this stuff,
Speaker 2: and they have the appropriate tools to solve these challenges.
Speaker 2: But essentially it's just another form of conditioning that takes
Speaker 2: away from us and who we are. You have to
Speaker 2: give of your best self to have those things using
Speaker 2: those methods, and it's just not wise.
Speaker 1: To go that route. Right on, this was fantastic information.
Speaker 1: Before we close out, remind the audience about what you
Speaker 1: do and if they're interested, how they can find out more.
Speaker 2: Well. I am a hypnoti therapists. I offer coaching. I
Speaker 2: use various tools cognitive behavioral therapy to get to the
Speaker 2: bottom of things. You can find me on Boundless Authenticity
Speaker 2: podcast that's available on Spreaker, Rumble, YouTube, Spotify, Apple, and
Speaker 2: all you gotta do is just send me an email
Speaker 2: at self Sabotage info at proton dot me. I also
Speaker 2: have a secondary podcast called Shadows of Curiosity where I
Speaker 2: strictly look at fringe topics and stories documented incidents of
Speaker 2: UFO contact and other things. If you have a story
Speaker 2: you want to share, you could email me at Shadows
Speaker 2: of Curiosity at ProtonMail dot com and I'm on Instagram
Speaker 2: at Boundless Authenticity.
Speaker 1: Awesome, Jay, and thank you so much. We'll definitely be
Speaker 1: doing this again. So much more we can discuss and
Speaker 1: until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk
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