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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Surely You Can't

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Be Serious Podcast. Shirley Fans, we have an amazing, exciting

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episode for you today. This is literally an album that

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we racked our brains for months trying to come up

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with something to compare it to. And only by comparing

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the movies did we find a way to compare two

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legitimately incredible albums of nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: They're two of the best sellers of nineteen eighty four.

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Purple Rain is one of the best sellers of all time. Yes,

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and actually we are recording this today on June twenty fifth,

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twenty twenty one. It is the thirty seventh anniversary of

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the release of the soundtrack of the movie Peple Rain.

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Speaker 1: You guys want to hear it for a couple of weeks,

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But we are just blessed by divinity to have gotten

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here today. Just I mean, we decided two days ago,

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let's just record this on Friday, and boom, it happened

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to be the exact day that was released.

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Speaker 2: See, there's a legitimate case to be made this is

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the best album of the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Possibly, there's a legitimate case this is the best album

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of all time. I mean, it's it's jump back, it's

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it's incredible. Yes, all right, how'd you like to waste

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some time?

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Speaker 2: I cannot resist.

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Speaker 1: It's really gross. It's not right now, it's not Let

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this jogo any first.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to stop until I reached the top.

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Let's dive into Purple Rain. Track by track.

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Speaker 1: Purple Rain. All right, Before we jump into our first track,

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we need to know that this album was produced, arranged,

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and composed by Prince and the Revolution.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the first album that the Revolution gets any

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kind of credit.

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Speaker 1: Well, on nineteen ninety nine, in the album cover he

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wrote like backwards in like one of the letters the Revolution,

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but this is the one that they actually in the

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album notes they get full credit.

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Speaker 2: Okay, cool.

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Speaker 1: Now, Prince primarily is the composer of all of this stuff.

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Speaker 2: This album won two Grammy Awards and an Academy Award.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: This won the Academy Award for Best Original Song Score

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for the movie Purple Rain. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so before we jump in, okay, let's talk album cover.

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We typically do that, Yeah, iconic album cover. Before we

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get going, I just want to point something out. We

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have been talking to each other now for a couple

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of years face to face. And one of the reasons

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that I can do that is because you don't have

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nose hair. Have you been talking to people and like

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you can't even concentrate on what they're saying because of

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their nose hair.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they like tuck to you.

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Speaker 1: It dangles, yes, it wiggles. It's a total distraction. Absolutely,

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And so let me let me say, if you are

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It's not embarrassing. You just stick it up there and

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna look at people and bother them, right,

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And I'm one of those guys who's self conscious about

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my nose hair. So somebody that you're gonna see me

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that you're looking to trim up. And I'd like to

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point out that a giraffe is easier to see in

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the planes than it is in the forest. So that's

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that's wonderful.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it is so very it's very good around

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sensitive areas, if you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They have also an entire shavekit called the Ultra

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Smooth Package package. You get the idea.

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Speaker 2: So who doesn't want their package ultra smooth?

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Speaker 1: Right? Right, So don't forget to go to manscapes dot

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Speaker 2: Whack it perfect time.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Prince on his motorcycle in New York City. Except

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it's not in New York City. It's a back lot

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at Warner Brothers Studios on Hennessy Street, but made to

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look like one of the tenements in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, okay, I just figured it was Minneapolis. No, okay, no, yeah,

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it's not Minneapolis.

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Speaker 3: It's not New York City.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, it's the back lot of Warner Brothers. I'm

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wondering if they took this picture after they went to

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La to reshoot the skinny dip in the lake, Mini

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talka scenes with her when she got so sick after

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the jumping in the water. Probably so, Minneapolis winter, probably so.

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Speaker 2: Just for the record, Yeah, on this record, yes, thirteen

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times platinum, over twenty five million units sold. Wow, twenty

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five million. I think it was like standard issue to

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everybody in my fourth grade class. I mean just everybody

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got a copy of.

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Speaker 1: Purple rant I got a question for you, so did

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you have this? Because you've talked routinely about how your

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dad would check your song list, and I don't see

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how the this was forgre Filthy fifteen soundtrack would have

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made it past at your dad.

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Speaker 2: This one did not pass inspection at the Calvin household.

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Speaker 1: So this was under the table.

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Speaker 2: This was under the table for sure.

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Speaker 1: Recording songs off the radio, getting stuff from friends.

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Speaker 2: Mostly recording stuff off the radio was how I got

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ahold of this Darling Nikki at my house was against

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the rules, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's dive in, track by track, track.

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Speaker 1: By track, best freaking song for the first song on

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the album Let's Go Crazy.

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Speaker 2: This may be the greatest entry song of any album

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in the nineteen eighties. The intro to this song is

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I'm saying this song like the first track on any album.

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Speaker 1: Eight Oh yeah, it is my favorite song on the album. Okay,

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it's one of the greatest albums of the eighties, So

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potentially this is the greatest song of the eighties. It's

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in the conversation. It is definitely in the conversation. We

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start with this amazing organ. We have dearly beloved, as

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though we're here at a funeral for this thing called life.

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Speaker 2: Whenever I walk by a hot mic or wherever I am,

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it doesn't matter I find a hot mic. I don't

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do check check check, I do daily beloved, gathered hit

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to day.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it just comes out, yeah, and you're locked into

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every word, right, you are wondering what it is he's

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talking about. I mean, if this is your first time

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to hear the song, you're like, what is going on here?

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What's on this rock album? And so you're totally bought in.

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And then the drum comes in just before the organ

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fades out, and then you get this awesome guitar PowerCore.

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It's incredible.

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Speaker 2: This is an amazing song and.

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Speaker 1: It's about God and the devil of all things.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about the Christian overtones to this song.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So going Crazy and going for a higher floor

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is about God. I mean, you can't just say God

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in a song, so you have to disguise it as something.

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And so going crazy and going higher that's about God.

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And then the elevator. It's not just the elevator.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was the elevator, like years and years

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and years.

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Speaker 1: So Prince has you know you. You can see it

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in his song titles like I would die for you,

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Nothing compares to you, like he abbreviates you and uses

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the numeral tow for the word too all the time,

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like even when he's handwriting notes. That book that I

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told you I read, the Beautiful Ones it was it

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was largely composed from notes that he had written. They

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left it in. I mean he would draw the picture

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of an I like a blinking eye for the word I,

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like I would yes for you yes, And so that's

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how that book is written. So D Elevator was the

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way that he wrote the lyrics. He didn't write it

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the elevator. It was devil, and devil got translated into

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D elevator because the devil brings you down.

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Speaker 3: Okay, awesome.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that we should mention that anytime

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we say the words four or two or you, please,

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when you're listening at home, just substitute the numbers or

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the big letter.

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Speaker 1: Make it as short as you can, pretend like your

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teenager is texting you. Prince set the stage in the

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early eighties on how to communicate by text.

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Speaker 2: That's good, Okay, So I want to talk about the

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lyrics on this. This is something I just just discovered.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

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Speaker 2: So you have that big intro, the sort of eulogy

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Speaker 1: George Clinton style.

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Speaker 2: Okay, doctor, everything gonna be all right, yes, right, Yeah,

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I call my old lady for a friendly word. She

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picked up the phone, dropped it on the floor, right, Yes,

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And in the lyrics it says in parentheses sex sex

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was all I heard.

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Speaker 1: He definitely, throughout all of his work equates sex and god.

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It's kind of weird. It is. It's a little bit weird. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So this song was released July eighteenth, nineteen eighty four.

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This is right before the movie is dropped.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We talked in our preceding episode about how Windove's cry

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was blowing the roof off. Yes he drops this one,

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Yes takes it at notch is even higher and it's

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all right before the movie drops, and definitely helped propel

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the movie to its success. This reached number one on

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the Hot one hundred September twenty ninth, nineteen eighty four,

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the second number one song in a row from this.

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Speaker 1: Album, Yeah this one. Interesting things happened with Prince's stuff

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after he passed away. Bruno Mar You remember did you

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see the twenty seventeen Grammys. I remember watching them, Like

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lead out show was Bruno Mars dressed in the old

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purple rayin regalia and he played the song and I

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got to say I was a little nervous. When it's

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not he did a pretty darn good job.

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Speaker 2: Bruno Mars is about the only guy I can think

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of that could pull it off.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did it well. It was respectful, well played, well sung.

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He's a talent guy. But later on the song was

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used in a Capital one commercial and like Prince would

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never ever ever let something like that happen. I mean

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I almost couldn't get his music before he passed away.

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I mean it was on Spotify. You couldn't get it anywhere.

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I couldn't get it anywhere, and so it was nice

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that it was more accessible, Like once he passed away,

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which you know, I hate to say that, but then

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have Capital One, whoever's running the estate, that said, okay,

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capital One, you can use the song that was shocking

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and disheartening about what was being done.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this song is actually shortened. When you watch the movie.

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He plays a long version and it's our intro.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: We talked about the Godfather scene. Yeah, and you have

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a part where he kind of does this weird piano thing,

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you know, and it introduces the characters and all that stuff.

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But back in the day, because they were records, they

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had to trim it up to make sure everything fit,

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and so they had to do some cuts. They cut

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this one along with the beautiful ones and Computer Believe,

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but they cut out that middle piano part, which I

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didn't think was any good anyway.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that part of the movie. But I

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gotta say, my favorite part of this whole song is

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the solo at the end. The guitar solo maybe my

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favorite guitar solo of all time. He kills it and

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he does like with almost that he does with his

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whole album. He is merging thiss Achadelic with this classic

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blues rock style and it is fire.

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Speaker 2: You are one hundred percent of the money with that.

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To me, this is a pop song with awesome guitar. Yes,

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similar I think in spirit to like beat it, yeah,

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very much. Beat it as a pop song with Eddie

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van Halen just shredded.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and from this song, not the song alone, but

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I mean just knowing the man. He doesn't come up

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in the conversation when you're talking about the greatest guitarists

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of all time, but he probably should.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He just was such a rounded musician in everything, and

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such an incredible composer and lyricist and performer, you just

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don't realize. Hey, he's phenomenal. I mean, you've seen the

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my Guitar gently weeps video that that Tom Petty did,

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and he comes in with that solo at the end,

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and it's just holy cow. He can still just shred

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away like he's Eddie van Halen. Like you say, you

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walk by a mic and you're saying, dearly beloved. If

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this guitar solo is I'm gonna stop whatever I'm doing

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might get my knee. I'm gonna way away on the

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air guitar, so good man, and the end, where is

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that down? And that's like one hundred blues songs in

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that way, but he does something so much more with

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that end. It's too good.

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Speaker 2: And you have the big tight yep so that blew

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our doors off.

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Speaker 1: The out of the gate fantastic, and then it drops

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us into this beautiful soft pop song called take Me

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with You. Okay, So we start with this drum and

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synthesizer thing that's almost frantic, like it's just what's going on.

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and then it transitions into this it's like we're going

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for a while in the park. You know.

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Speaker 2: It's unconfirmed, but the urban legend is is that Sheila

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at the beginning of the song.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it definitely has her sound, for sure, definitely has

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her sound. So this one he had written for Apollonia

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six Apollonia singing the co lead in this She's she's

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the female voice that we hear. But they didn't put

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this song in when they first laid these tracks out.

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to take it out of the Apollonia six album.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting. Aberbanguli came to Prince and said, hey, we

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need something to go with the montage of the love

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scene where the romances blooming and they're hanging out and

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they're having fun and they're getting to know each other.

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And he's like, well, that's great, I got this song

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right here. I'm just going to take it right back

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from Apollonia that it was going to go on her album.

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Uh huh, And he started to pull stuff from her.

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more of an actress, you know, so from that album.

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Speaker 1: I thought I was thinking about this today she still

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sings well. I mean, he's not gonna I don't know

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that she's going to be a star singer sometime, but

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she's not a bad singer.

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Speaker 2: Her album Listen, her album had Manic Monday, the Glamorous Life,

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and take Me with You.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she could have gone a different direction, she could

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have that's true.

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Speaker 2: He didn't take those songs away from him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, So this.

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Speaker 2: Was released January twenty fifth, nineteen eighty five. This reached

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number twenty five on the Hot one hundred. This is

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Chris Rock's favorite Prince song.

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Speaker 1: This song has got strings in it, one of the

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first times we hear strings in Prince's music. These were

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not synthesized strings. These were live string musicians. And Novie

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Novage usually just call her nov but she's one of

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the players in this.

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Speaker 2: I heard that the strings were arranged by Wendy and Lisa.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so Lisa Coleman is a classically trained pianist. There's

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actually I remember this that when she met Prince, she

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met him and his dad at the same time, and

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they're like, Okay, we'll play a song for it. She's

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like okay, and she starts playing, and they're like, so,

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what's the point in really learning technique? It's not really necessary,

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is it. And she's like, by learning technique, you're able

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to play any and every style of music. And they're

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like oh, And it totally changed the way that Prince

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approached learning music. All Right, awesome, this little story from

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The Beautiful Ones.

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Speaker 2: Nice, nice, Okay, all right, we done with this one.

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Speaker 1: Yep, Moving on, all right, moving on to track number three.

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Speaker 2: This song is called the Beautiful Ones.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this is the song that he's singing to

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Apollonia whenever she's with Morris Day in the club and

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he's trying to get her to come back, and it's

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also like a challenge to him. And it's interesting because

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he actually probably wrote this for that same reason, but

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with different people involved. So supposedly this was supposed to

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be a song written for Susannah Melvoy and who's Wendy's

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twin sister, right, that was the story for a long time,

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and she had a boyfriend when they first met, and

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so maybe it is that kind of thing of leave him,

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come with me. But in twenty fifteen, just a year

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before he passed, he gave an interview and he said

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this song was for Vanity. Now, if you know the

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story of how he met Vanity for the first time,

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she was with Rick James and I think it was

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at the Grammys or something like that, and Rick James

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comes in with Vanity and you know, she's just this

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B movie actress, but he falls in love with her

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on site, and so it's possi that Vanity is at

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the Apollonia and James James is the Morris Day.

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Speaker 2: Wow. That's awesome, And.

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Speaker 1: Interestingly, I'd like to see if Dave Chappelle play that

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whole scenario out.

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Speaker 2: Because Dave Chappelle bulls in your core, buddy. Yeah, So

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this song to me is enhanced by the movie.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So the.

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Speaker 2: Performance that he gives in the movie, like you said,

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he's singing directly to her heart, and you know, it

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hits those screams and it's intense at the end, and

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it's emotion and it's do you want him or do

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you want me? Because I want you? And I just

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think it's one of those where when I saw the movie,

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I thought this.

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Speaker 3: Is a great song.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So the beginning of the song starts off

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with these drums. It's got a similar sound almost to

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the drum sound in the air tonight. But this was

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an LM one drum machine, and back then there weren't

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very many of them. They cost about five thousand each,

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so not a whole lot of folks had them. He

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had taken that drum machine and he would run it

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through his guitar effects pedals, and he had kind of

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made his own drum sounds by using the effects that

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he would use on the guitar, which is how it

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has that kind of echoey effect at the beginning. So

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he kind of kept using what was old technology because

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he had made it his own interesting.

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Speaker 2: This song actually replaced another song called Electric Intercourse that

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was scheduled to be on the Purple Rain soundtrack. But

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like this one better, and I think that's a good call.

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I've heard Electric gun Course and it's not half the

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song at this one is this one that has been

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covered by Mariah Carey and Beyonce. We talked in our

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def Leopard episode about Mariah Carey covering Bringing On the Heartbreak,

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and I thought it doesn't really work, but her version

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of this song is actually good. All right, everybody, I

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just want to formally invite you to come over and

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listen to our side project, the podcast Bull of kryptonit

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with mister John Reid from the thirty seventy movie podcast,

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and of course you and me.

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile at the Hull of Justice, we are the super Friends.

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Speaker 2: That's right. We cover the TV show Superman and Lois.

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We go over every episode. We have a great time,

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and John knows so much about Superman. It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: If you love Superman, or even if you don't and

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you just want to learn more, come check it out.

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And if you haven't watched Superman and Lois yet you

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need to right now crawl out of your fortress of

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solitude and turn the TV on.

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Speaker 2: Podcast Bull of Crips back, moving on, Moving on. Next

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song on the album is a song called Computer Blue.

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Speaker 1: Wendy, Yes Lisa is the water horma?

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Speaker 4: Yes Lisa?

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Speaker 2: Shall we begin, Yes Lisa, And.

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Speaker 1: Then we have Wendy and Lisa conjuring up images in

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young boys minds back in the eighties of what the

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water was going to be used for.

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Speaker 2: All I know is that the idea of Wendy and

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Lisa in the bathtub was enough to spiral my mind

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out of control an eleven year old.

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Speaker 1: So then we jump into this horrendous scream and a

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entirely different sound, but it is fantastic. It's very computerized,

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it's very synthesizer heavy, and it's about the relationship of

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humans and computers.

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Speaker 2: Interesting at a time when that was on people's minds.

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Speaker 1: You know, yeah, absolutely. This one involved more of the

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band in its composition. The keyboard bass line was something

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that doctor Fink had come up with fun and he

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started playing at one of their sessions. The band kind

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of joined in and jammed over it, and Prince was like,

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I like this and he, I mean for the for

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what the song became. He brought in the bridge from

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this song that he had called Father's Song that was

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written by his dad, John L. Nelson. It was originally

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a much longer song before they put in Windove's Cry

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and and take Me with You.

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Speaker 2: We got to listen to the part where he plays

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on his guitar, that piano part that his father wrote.

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Let's do it right here. It's kind of interesting that

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the Prince's dad gets a credit on the writing of

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this song.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It's really neat. Whole band gets credit

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and John L. Nelson. Okay, so this song was originally

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like seven minutes and thirty seconds long, and I think

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there's like a twelve minute version as well, and when

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they I think they've released that longer version as well.

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There's a hallway speech. Oh yeah, yeah, so he's like

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going down the hallway and each of the doors lead

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to different emotions and it's considered by Prince fans as

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like one of the best parts of the song that

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we didn't even see for a long time, but because

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they got to see it in the live shows, they

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were like, oh, this is a great part of the song.

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But it never made it in the album.

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Speaker 2: I saw an interview with Wendy Melbourne right, and it

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was actually The Revolution minus Prince Is after his death,

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and they were asking her. They're like, what's the deal

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with you know, Wendy, Yes, Lisa is the water warming up? Yes, Lisa?

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: They were asking her directly, what does that mean. She's like, well,

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he wanted to do something kind of alluring with that,

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and so he's like here say this. They're like, okay,

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all right, there's the water warming up.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just thought that was kind of a cool, sexy hook.

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Speaker 1: So well, acting chops go as they do, Wendy's probably

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got the better, the better acting chops. The yes, very computerized.

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Could we do it a little less like a zombie

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this time? Please?

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Speaker 2: Hey, Wendy does a great job in Purple Rain when

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she tells Lisa to shut up, shut up. Lisa was like,

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she said that before.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's feisty. I like her.

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Speaker 2: Okay, are we done with computer blue? Ye?

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Speaker 1: Move on, listen.

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Speaker 2: This is a great song. Yeah, but for me, it's

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the weakest song on the album. Okay, okay, Yeah, it's

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more of an underlying soundtrack song than a song. I

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want to go listen to It's a great song, but

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it's not mind blowingly great, which from this point forward,

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they're all amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, we've got a tent pole song obviously at

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the beginning, and a tent pole song at the end

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of side one. Darling Nikki, I'm sorry, Jason, I have

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to stop this now. You're not allowed to listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Tipper Gore says, press pause on your tape player, kick

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it out and go tell your mom you're grounded.

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Speaker 1: Okay. So Tipper Gore catches her eleven year old daughter

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Karina listening to this song and she's like, she doing

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what with a magazine?

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Speaker 4: I remember hearing that line and I was like, that

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sounds painful. Can you get paper cuts or something that? Oh,

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she's looking at the magazine? Okay, makes so much more.

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Speaker 1: This was the song that led Tipper Gore on her

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crusade where she started the Parents' Music Resource Center, which

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ultimately led to parental advisory stickers and a list of

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songs that you're not allowed to hear.

475
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: You are exactly right, let's not gloss over that.

476
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

477
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: The reason why we have those parental advisory stickers on

478
00:25:56,519 --> 00:25:59,359
every CD now. Yeah, of course nobody buys CDs anymore

479
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,599
because this song.

480
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,799
Speaker 1: Yes, so this song wasn't released as a single, but

481
00:26:04,839 --> 00:26:18,240
it hit number one on the Filthy fifteen chart. Nick right,

482
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,640
this is the this is the top worst song that

483
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:25,960
the Parents Music Resource Center had on their list.

484
00:26:26,319 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: Hey listen, this song committed a couple of sins, Okay,

485
00:26:30,039 --> 00:26:32,960
parental sins. I should say, NICKI was a sex fiend.

486
00:26:33,039 --> 00:26:33,759
Speaker 1: Yes, we know that.

487
00:26:34,519 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 2: It also had back masking. Oh yes, which was you know,

488
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:39,839
the Devil's work back in the day.

489
00:26:40,039 --> 00:26:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, except that if you actually listen to the back

490
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,640
masking backwards, it says, hello, how are you fine? Fine?

491
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,559
Because I know that the Lord is coming soon, coming,

492
00:26:50,599 --> 00:26:53,000
coming soon. Kind of an interesting flip.

493
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I mean you have Christian overtones on a

494
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,440
song called Darling Nicky.

495
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: I told you man, he equates the two. But thank

496
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:05,359
you Tipper Gore for giving us stickers so that we

497
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,279
would know what the album was we wanted to buy

498
00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:08,720
when we were teenagers.

499
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,839
Speaker 2: That's right. We talked about the Filthy fifteen back when

500
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,880
we did ac DC and their song let Me Put

501
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:20,039
My Love Into You. Honestly, though, Darling Nikki maybe one

502
00:27:20,039 --> 00:27:22,799
of the most controversial songs in the nineteen eighties.

503
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,319
Speaker 1: Yep. Turns out Karina Gore went on to seminary and

504
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,920
is now actually a professor at the seminary school, like

505
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,880
a dean maybe, so she made it okay. Well, you know,

506
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,400
even if she listened to Darling Nicky.

507
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: Well, that's good. I'm glad to hear that, you know.

508
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,559
In two thousand and one, when Prince got serious about

509
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:53,680
his Jehovah's witness faith, he moved away from songs like

510
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,279
that and this one in particular. He would not play

511
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:56,799
this when.

512
00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:58,839
Speaker 1: Live, right, And in fact.

513
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 2: I listened to a guy and he went to a

514
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,759
Prince concert and Prince started the song and everybody's like,

515
00:28:05,519 --> 00:28:07,720
here it is, and He's like, no, I can't. I'm

516
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:08,799
not going to play that one for you.

517
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,319
Speaker 1: Oh man. He stopped playing put it on the shelf

518
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,559
yep for six years. Played it again in two thousand

519
00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:13,920
and seven.

520
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,599
Speaker 2: Welcome back.

521
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, sounds.

522
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: Good time to hit stop on your tape player.

523
00:28:19,319 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 2: Kick it out, flip it over side two for Purple Rain.

524
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:53,880
This song is wind Doves Cry.

525
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're gonna be naked in a bathtub? Sorry.

526
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,640
As a throw back to our Sign of the Times episodes.

527
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,519
Go check that out. Another amazing song.

528
00:29:05,599 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 2: The guitar at the beginning. This gives me chills.

529
00:29:07,599 --> 00:29:09,359
Speaker 1: So this one. Do you know how this came about?

530
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:09,759
Speaker 2: Tell me.

531
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: Albert Magnoli, the director of the movie, was like, hey,

532
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:16,680
we need music to go over the parents fighting with

533
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,640
each other in this awkward relationship. And Prince is like, okay,

534
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,559
I'll go write that. And it's supposed to be partially

535
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:26,000
inspired by his relationship with Susan Moonsee, who was a

536
00:29:26,039 --> 00:29:45,039
member of Vanity six and Apollonia six. Right, just looked

537
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:47,359
out the leads and that's the same girl. By the way,

538
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,880
why six there's three girls? I can think of just

539
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,200
a few things that there's six of, and they were

540
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,079
prominently displayed in the live show. Yes, their eyes, their

541
00:29:57,119 --> 00:30:03,839
ears something. Anyway, So he writes this song and Jill Jones,

542
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,960
who had performed with him on Wednesday, which was a

543
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,799
song that was supposed to be on this album, she's

544
00:30:08,839 --> 00:30:12,440
the one that says it sounds too conventional. In the conversation,

545
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,319
the idea was take out the bass, and so we

546
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,759
have this song that becomes a number one hit and

547
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:24,640
becomes the best selling single of nineteen eighty four, and

548
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,079
it has no bass.

549
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,759
Speaker 2: That's really the big story on this. There is no bass.

550
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: When they play the show live, there is a bassline.

551
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,279
He does play the bass when it's live. And not

552
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,440
only was it interesting because of this, but then we

553
00:30:37,519 --> 00:30:42,160
have the video, which is weird. It's Prince crawling naked

554
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,319
on the ground out of the bathtub with doves flying

555
00:30:44,359 --> 00:30:47,160
around him, and he's the one that directed it. Prince

556
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,880
directed this video, but it's controversial because of some strong

557
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,960
sexual overtimes.

558
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:55,839
Speaker 2: This was the song of the summer of nineteen eighty four.

559
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,759
We talked in our Huey Lewis episode where I'm like,

560
00:31:10,839 --> 00:31:13,079
you know, if this was it was like huge for

561
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,799
me the summer of eighty four. But this song reached

562
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,240
number one on July seventh, nineteen eighty four, and was

563
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:21,960
number one for five weeks. It owned that summer and

564
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200
it was on like on my local radio station. They

565
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,279
played it every album. Is it a pop song, is

566
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:28,920
it a guitar song? Is it both? Is it something

567
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,079
we've never heard before? It's amazing, it's incredible.

568
00:31:32,319 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: So because this came along later on, because their request

569
00:31:36,519 --> 00:31:39,079
for the song came later on, this one that was

570
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,480
not performed by The Revolution for the album. This was

571
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,279
all prints wrote, it played, it played every instrument on. Yeah.

572
00:31:47,359 --> 00:31:49,759
Speaker 2: He had actually finished the soundtrack. I think they may

573
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:53,000
have even started the initial pressings of it, and he

574
00:31:53,039 --> 00:31:55,160
came in he said, guys, I got one more song,

575
00:31:55,319 --> 00:31:58,279
and they were like, no, we've barely fit everything in

576
00:31:58,319 --> 00:32:00,400
there as it is, and he's like, no, you're going

577
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,519
to want this one on there. You think, Wow, the

578
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,160
number one single in nineteen eighty four.

579
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,039
Speaker 1: How many stories have we told were the last song

580
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,119
to come up in the process? Is the best song

581
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,559
on the album? Yeah, this one is certainly. I mean,

582
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880
it's the best selling single of nineteen eighty four.

583
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 2: It may be the best song of nineteen eighty four.

584
00:32:19,359 --> 00:32:23,000
In a year where the competition is incredibly high.

585
00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: And this one they changed the rules on how to

586
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,640
get a platinum single. Before they changed the rules to

587
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,880
make it easier, this was the last single to reach

588
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:32,799
platinum steps.

589
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: Okay, let me talk to you about this. Okay, we've

590
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,359
talked about how this song is sounds different. There's no baseline.

591
00:32:40,599 --> 00:32:43,000
You know, you've got two different solos and you've got

592
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,160
these sort of weird sounds at the end. He's kind

593
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,880
of doing some weird vocalization at the end, and it's

594
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,240
five and a half minutes long. It's a risky choice

595
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:52,839
for the first single because we talked about it. If

596
00:32:52,839 --> 00:32:55,200
it bombs out of the gate, do they market Purple

597
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:57,559
Rain like crazy? I would have thought that Let's Go

598
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,759
Crazy would have been a much safer choice for the

599
00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:02,960
first single. Absolutely that this one comes out and it

600
00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:04,839
is a huge smash.

601
00:33:04,599 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: Huge smash number one followed by another number one, followed

602
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,279
by the movie. Of course it's going to do well.

603
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,440
This is why the movie, I mean we talked about

604
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,960
it before. There's no reason this movie should have been

605
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:19,519
a success other than this album coming out first and

606
00:33:19,599 --> 00:33:21,440
these two songs being the lead singles.

607
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:23,359
Speaker 2: The video is like an ad for the movie.

608
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,599
Speaker 1: I mean absolutely, absolutely Okay, So before we finish up

609
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:45,960
with it, we got to talk about this last synthesizer solo. Okay. So,

610
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,039
as I mentioned, Prince did all of the instrumentation on

611
00:33:50,079 --> 00:33:55,559
this right well. He slowed down the track to half speed,

612
00:33:56,119 --> 00:33:59,599
lowered it an octave, and then sped it back up

613
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,319
to get it. Swear it's the same sound. It fits

614
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:05,799
the sound correctly, right, smart, very smart, But doctor Fink

615
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,360
then had to learn how to full speed whenever they

616
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:08,920
did their lives.

617
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:10,559
Speaker 2: Good luck with that, dude.

618
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,519
Speaker 1: When you hear this, you have to be playing the

619
00:34:12,559 --> 00:34:15,519
air piano on your dashboard or your steering wheel or

620
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,280
whatever wherever you are. You're doing that little keyboard bit

621
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,360
with your fingers, for sure. One dred percent.

622
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,039
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what else was a huge hit in

623
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,159
nineteen eighty four, Dancing in the Dark Bebrus Springsteen. Yes,

624
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,039
only made it to number two because it.

625
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,119
Speaker 1: Could not push this one out of the way, couldn't

626
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:32,599
unsea when Dove's cry I hate to leave it.

627
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:35,519
Speaker 2: It literally may be the best song in the nineteen eighties.

628
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: There really is. But the good news is the next

629
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:51,880
song is I Would Die for you. Greater love has

630
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,119
no one than this, to lay down one's life for

631
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,159
one's friends.

632
00:34:56,519 --> 00:35:00,039
Speaker 2: John fifteen thirteen and quoting scripture.

633
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: Well, well that's what this song is about. It is

634
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:06,519
so good. It's I am something you'll never understand. It is,

635
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,440
I'm willing to lay down my life for you. And

636
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,079
you know what, it's such a happy, great song. It's

637
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:14,159
a good way to have a Hollywood end to a

638
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,639
otherwise pretty dark movie.

639
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,599
Speaker 2: It's an amazing pop song. Yeah, and like you said

640
00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,840
in the movie, after we reached that emotional peak of

641
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,400
Purple Rain where Purple Rain comes in, he plays it.

642
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,760
It clears the deck, it solves all the problems that

643
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,840
it is, the awesome climax of Purple Rain. Then you

644
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,159
finish with two super fun songs where you have this

645
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,920
song and then the next song we're going to talk

646
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,679
about and it's just it's just good old fashioned, awesome

647
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:40,320
pop fun.

648
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,039
Speaker 1: Absolutely. I think when he did when he had his conversion,

649
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,760
he stops saying I'm the Messiah. I think he started

650
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,360
saying when he would sing it live, he would say

651
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,239
He's the side. Yep.

652
00:36:01,159 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: This song was released November twenty fourth, nineteen eighty four.

653
00:36:04,039 --> 00:36:06,480
This reached number eight on the Hot one hundred.

654
00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:08,199
Speaker 1: How did this song only get to number eight?

655
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: Another top ten hit, But it.

656
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: Should be I mean it should be closer to number one.

657
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 2: Than is eight Top gold that pop gold.

658
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,199
Speaker 1: So the B side on this one was a song

659
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:22,119
called Another Lonely Christmas. It is a much downer song

660
00:36:22,559 --> 00:36:24,800
than this song. This is happy Go Lucky. The other

661
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,119
side's about a guy spending Christmas alone because his significant

662
00:36:28,159 --> 00:36:31,039
other died. On Christmas Day, therefore it is tragic.

663
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you this. Some people open presents on Christmas.

664
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,800
Other people open their wrists.

665
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: Okay, Gremlin. So that's how I found out there was no.

666
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,039
Speaker 2: Sane flashback to our Gremlins episode.

667
00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 1: We've got Sheila e on this one.

668
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, shei le becoming a prominent member of Princess entourage.

669
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,280
Speaker 1: When they would do this tour. Sheila was a part

670
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,639
of the show and she would come back out for

671
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,119
this song and play the drums and they would sing

672
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:56,039
it together on the song.

673
00:36:56,079 --> 00:37:07,599
Speaker 2: It's a great song. Yeah, what else is there to

674
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:10,800
say other than it's so fun, it's popgold.

675
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,360
Speaker 1: There's nothing else to say. Let's go on to Baby

676
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:12,880
I'm a Star.

677
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,679
Speaker 2: It slides right into Baby I'm a Star.

678
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:37,559
Speaker 1: Okay, So this is the beginning part of this song.

679
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,679
Make you think of the scene in Batman where Jack

680
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,280
Nicholson is dancing around.

681
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,199
Speaker 2: Yes, the Joker parade scene.

682
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: There is a reason for that, right. This is the

683
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,239
song that was supposed to be in that scene, and

684
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,880
it was just going to be the only Prince song

685
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,639
in the soundtrack, But then Prince got signed on to

686
00:37:53,679 --> 00:37:56,880
the entire soundtrack, and so he said, we're going to

687
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,400
take that song out and we're going to put in

688
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,880
a song called two hundred Balloons, and they went, can

689
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,119
we go back to the other song? Was like, ok, I,

690
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,440
we won't do two hundred balloons, but I've got another

691
00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:09,199
song that's much closer to Baby I'm a Star. And

692
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,280
the song is called Trust and we can play that

693
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,960
right here. See how close it is.

694
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,639
Speaker 2: That's exactly like Baby I'm a Star.

695
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,559
Speaker 1: Yes, you got no question when you're hearing this. This

696
00:38:27,639 --> 00:38:30,239
is Brits, right, and so that's how we get that

697
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:34,760
awesome image. But this one, this song actually came about

698
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:37,920
in nineteen eighty one. This whole album other than this

699
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,880
song was written eighty three ish right right, And this

700
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,800
one actually he had written before December of eighty one,

701
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,719
when he had just started to become famous. And he's like,

702
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,400
Baby I'm.

703
00:38:48,239 --> 00:39:10,639
Speaker 2: A Star, that's great, and your your batman reck is awesome.

704
00:39:11,039 --> 00:39:15,079
Somebody tell me he's got one of those things. Okay.

705
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,400
So there's that string part right there, that that little tune,

706
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,280
that musical tune. It reminds me a lot of Raspberry Beret.

707
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the same you got again. I mentioned her before.

708
00:39:24,519 --> 00:39:27,320
This is Nobe Novag. She's the one playing the strings

709
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,719
on this arranged by Winnie Lisa. Right, you get the

710
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,480
same sound, same string sound when you have Raspberry beret.

711
00:39:33,519 --> 00:39:35,480
That's why they sound the same. When Novie came in

712
00:39:35,559 --> 00:39:39,360
to record this, this is like completely the opposite of

713
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,159
what I would expect from Prince. But she came in

714
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,440
and she was like, Okay, I'm going to try it out.

715
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,400
She plays it and she's like, Okay, I think I've

716
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,880
got it. He's like Nope, that's good. She's like, no,

717
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,239
I can do it better than that. He's like, no,

718
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,320
I really like the the energy that you had on

719
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,000
that one. I don't want to use anything else. And

720
00:39:54,039 --> 00:39:56,599
she's like, okay, thanks, because I'll.

721
00:39:56,519 --> 00:40:00,559
Speaker 2: Knock off earlier then. Baby, I'm a star. I would

722
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,920
die for you. Let's go crazy and Purple Rain We're

723
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,800
all played at First Avenue on August third, nineteen eighty three,

724
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:09,440
for that concert.

725
00:40:09,039 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: The benefit for the Minnesota Dance Theater.

726
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 2: Yes, when I think about that, I'm like, man, there's

727
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,440
a few concerts that I would have killed who have

728
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,519
been at right. I mean, we're talking for sure, Live

729
00:40:19,559 --> 00:40:22,679
Aid the Moscow Peace Festival and that night at First

730
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,280
Avenue of Minnesota on August third. To hear these songs

731
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,320
we played for the first.

732
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:29,599
Speaker 1: Time, it's like the lost Arc being opened, well in

733
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:32,280
a good way, not the bad one Lost Arc. I mean,

734
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,119
this is a moment where we get the title song

735
00:40:36,599 --> 00:40:38,760
for the movie. Albert. We talked about it during the

736
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,000
movie episode. Albert Magnolia is in the audience. Here's them

737
00:40:42,039 --> 00:40:45,559
play Purple Rain along with those other songs, and he's like,

738
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,760
that song needs to be the key song to my movie.

739
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,960
They hadn't put live music on an album before this.

740
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 2: It's incredible. These songs were played live. Now, they overdubbed

741
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,840
some and they added some vocalizations and some strings to them,

742
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,760
but these were plucked right out that concert.

743
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:05,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, this song almost always follows I Would Die

744
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:08,039
for You whenever they play it live. They blend together perfectly.

745
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,440
It's kind of like we will rock you and we

746
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,840
are the champions. You've got to hear these two songs.

747
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,159
Speaker 2: You play one, you get the other.

748
00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: You got to have the other. They're they're they're a pair.

749
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,079
Speaker 2: All right, You've done with this one. Were ready to

750
00:41:18,119 --> 00:41:18,920
tackle this beast.

751
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,559
Speaker 1: This talk about saving the best for last man. This

752
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:23,920
is so good.

753
00:41:25,639 --> 00:41:39,159
Speaker 5: I okay, hold on, hold on, push pause, push pause,

754
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:39,559
hold on.

755
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: I just got to talk about this for just a second. Okay.

756
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,840
I've talked about four chords songs before, and how like

757
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:48,559
there there's a million rock pop hits that are the

758
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:51,639
same four chords. Right, Yes, we've got don't stop Believing,

759
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:56,119
We've got Africa, We've got Minute work down under all

760
00:41:56,199 --> 00:41:59,760
kinds of songs, the same four chords, faithfully by Journey,

761
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,559
which we'll talk about here in just a second. Right,

762
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,760
same four chords. So this song is a four chord song. Literally,

763
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,199
the entire song is only four chords long. But what

764
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:13,320
happens is something amazing with these four chords that's unlike

765
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,599
the other songs. Okay. So normally in a four chord song,

766
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:20,880
depending on the key, you're going to have B flat,

767
00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:24,519
G minor, F and E flat. Okay, that's normally what

768
00:42:24,519 --> 00:42:26,800
you would have. There's if you put in a different key,

769
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,920
it'd be a D F sharp minor and E. I mean,

770
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,320
it's just they are they bear the same relationship to

771
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,280
each other on the scales, right, Okay, So this one, though,

772
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,280
you have an entirely different voicing for each of the chords.

773
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,599
So instead of having B flat, you have a B

774
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:49,440
flat nine, which makes it a much prettier sounding chord.

775
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:54,000
Let's listen to the first chord, and then that transitions

776
00:42:54,039 --> 00:42:57,239
into not just a G minor, but a G minor

777
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:04,199
seven suspended four, which is again so beautiful. And then

778
00:43:04,519 --> 00:43:06,519
this one's the basic chord. It goes right into that

779
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,519
F except the other guitar plays an F minor. So

780
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,119
every single chord he's taking these that four chord song,

781
00:43:14,199 --> 00:43:17,800
but he's turning it into something bigger and better and

782
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,880
more beautiful. And then he finishes off not with an

783
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,159
E flat but with an E flat nine, which is

784
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:30,199
this beautiful chord. Okay, now we can just play this song. Wow.

785
00:43:31,519 --> 00:43:32,159
Speaker 2: I never meant to.

786
00:43:39,559 --> 00:43:40,280
Speaker 1: I never meant.

787
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 5: Oh.

788
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:02,599
Speaker 2: You know, they were following Bob Seger around when they

789
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:05,159
were touring, and they were kind of chasing him around

790
00:44:05,199 --> 00:44:08,159
the States, and Prince went to Matt Beek one day

791
00:44:08,159 --> 00:44:10,360
and he's like, man, these white people in the Heartland

792
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,360
they love Bob Seger. I don't really get it. Tell

793
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,360
me why they're so into it. And Matt Veink says, well,

794
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,159
it's just this, It's just this kind of heartland thing, right.

795
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,360
They want to sing along and they want to be

796
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,199
moved and they want to want to feel a part

797
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,920
of it. And so Prince modeled this song Purple Rain

798
00:44:26,119 --> 00:44:27,559
after turn the page.

799
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,519
Speaker 1: So interestingly, this song started out it wasn't going to

800
00:44:31,559 --> 00:44:32,920
be a song for him. It was going to be

801
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,679
a song for Stevie Nicks. Yeah, And it wasn't this

802
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,920
power ballot. It was a country style song. He sends

803
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,199
it to Stevie Nicks and it's about ten minutes. I mean,

804
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:44,880
he gives her ten minutes of these four chords over

805
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,159
and over right. He's like, will you just write some

806
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,280
lyrics to this and you sing it and it'll be

807
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,960
our song together. And it freaks her out and she's like,

808
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,480
this is overwhelming. I can't do this. I'm scared I'm

809
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,000
going to mess it up. It's too beautiful. I don't

810
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,199
want to touch it. Here's it back, yeah, And so

811
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:01,519
they bring it back in to their studio and their

812
00:45:01,519 --> 00:45:04,880
rehearsals and it's one of the first times that they

813
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:09,039
have Wendy rehearsing with them, and they start playing the

814
00:45:09,159 --> 00:45:13,000
kind of country style chord progression and Wendy is the

815
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,360
one who does this voicing with the chords that I

816
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,320
just talked about. And when she does that, it completely

817
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,559
eliminates the country sound and it brings it into that

818
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,679
power ballad world that we.

819
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:41,159
Speaker 3: Love, you know, when you're talking about Stevie Nicks.

820
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 2: She gave it back to him and said, basically, like

821
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,920
you said, it's too epic, it's two grand I can't

822
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,239
handle it. But she also added it was an olive

823
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,559
branch of him giving me that cassette, which was huge,

824
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:53,880
but I think he would have liked to have a

825
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,119
romance with me as well.

826
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,599
Speaker 1: Well, she is Stevie Nicks. That is shocking, Well not really.

827
00:46:00,199 --> 00:46:04,599
So this song spent two weeks in the number two position.

828
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:08,199
It never made it to number one. Do you know

829
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:12,239
what kept it out of the spot?

830
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:21,039
Speaker 6: Jane Jones quick before go go oh Hey, George Michael

831
00:46:21,199 --> 00:46:24,199
and Andrew Ridgeley had some power in nineteen eighty.

832
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: Four Human Beings of the World. I love that song,

833
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,599
but it should not have kept out The Purple Master.

834
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,519
I agree, it's just yeah, it's tragic.

835
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 2: That song was released September twenty sixth, nineteen eighty four

836
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,079
made it to number two, blocked by Wham.

837
00:46:38,119 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: So after he had put this song together, he realized

838
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,199
it sounded a lot like one of those four chord

839
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,360
songs Faithfully Right by Journey.

840
00:46:47,559 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he actually called Jonathan Kane. Yes, he called Jonathan

841
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,519
Caane and he said, hey, here's the tape of this song.

842
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,519
I'm afraid that I copied you. Would you listen to it?

843
00:46:56,599 --> 00:46:58,039
Make sure that you're cool with.

844
00:46:58,039 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 1: This, right and if you if you're trying to figure

845
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,599
that out into your head, listen to those first four

846
00:47:02,679 --> 00:47:07,000
chords and then go down now now no no, no,

847
00:47:07,039 --> 00:47:11,000
down now now no no now, and you will hear it. Yeah.

848
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:13,800
But Jonathan Kane said, no, man, it's just the same

849
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,400
four chords. This is obviously a completely different song.

850
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 3: Okay.

851
00:47:17,079 --> 00:47:20,599
Speaker 1: So the first time that you hear the words purple

852
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,719
and rain put together in music is a song by

853
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,719
this band called America called Ventura Highway.

854
00:47:27,039 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: This Blew Me Away.

855
00:47:28,119 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 1: So it just it's the last it's kind of the

856
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,760
last bit of one of the lyrics in the song.

857
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,519
Prince takes it and obviously makes it his own. You

858
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:38,119
know what purple rain is? Do you know what it's

859
00:47:38,119 --> 00:47:38,719
supposed to be?

860
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I read this where it's talking about

861
00:47:41,039 --> 00:47:43,000
you have a blue sky and you've got blood in

862
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:46,519
the sky and therefore you have purple rain, right, which

863
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,159
for me that was a little bit of a revelation.

864
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,079
I remember the lyrics from nineteen ninety nine was talking

865
00:47:52,119 --> 00:48:01,800
about the sky was all purple, there are people running everywhere.

866
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, could have sworn it was Judgment Day. Sky was

867
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,960
all purple, there were people running everywhere. So it's about

868
00:48:08,039 --> 00:48:09,920
the end of the world. And that's what this song

869
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,360
is about.

870
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,679
Speaker 2: Wow. Back when I was in middle school, we had

871
00:48:12,679 --> 00:48:15,159
this little riddle we used to tell each other. Yes

872
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,400
that blue thunder plus red dawn, eagles, purple rain.

873
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: There you go. How created That's why I'm here.

874
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,639
Speaker 2: Nuggets like that, lady and gentlemen.

875
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: Okay, And so we've mentioned it multiple times now, but

876
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,559
just as a reminder, this was one of the songs

877
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,280
at the benefit for the Minnesota Dance Theater. This was

878
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,920
the first concert that Wendy Melvoyn played. She was only

879
00:48:38,039 --> 00:48:41,239
nineteen years old when she played with them. At the time,

880
00:48:41,639 --> 00:48:44,440
they brought recording equipment with them. They didn't know what

881
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,559
it was going to be about. They just knew Prince

882
00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:49,239
just does this stuff. So David Z, who is the

883
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,119
brother of Bobby Z, brings over recording equipment and thank goodness,

884
00:48:53,199 --> 00:48:55,239
because I mean, Bobby Z said it was one of

885
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,079
the best concerts they've ever ever done, and you're talking

886
00:48:58,119 --> 00:49:00,360
about I've got the drummer for the Revolution and says,

887
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:10,159
one of the best concerts we've ever done.

888
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,639
Speaker 2: So glad that they had the foresight to do that.

889
00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:18,039
Speaker 1: He's got a huge Prince is not what I would

890
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:21,079
describe as a great singer. Like he does. His voice

891
00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:24,280
is good and it's enjoyable to listen to him, but

892
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,599
it's not like he's He's not some amazing Steve Perry

893
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,119
esque kind of singer. But his vocal range on this one,

894
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:35,280
he goes from a B flat to all the way

895
00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:38,840
up to a C sharp six, which is a huge,

896
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,199
huge vocal range for one song.

897
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I was just going to say, you can

898
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:46,719
see that on the beautiful ones. I think that range

899
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:47,119
is there.

900
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:49,239
Speaker 1: Yeah. One of the things I want to talk about, yeah,

901
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,800
just briefly, is the Super Bowl Super Bowl forty one,

902
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,599
two thousand and seven. Do you remember who the teams

903
00:49:56,599 --> 00:49:57,159
were that were playing?

904
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:00,559
Speaker 2: Was the Bears and the Cold Cycle Good.

905
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: It's really hard to remember the teams, but it sure

906
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:04,519
is easy to remember. Prints.

907
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 2: Hey, we posted on Facebook during the Super Bowl. I

908
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,039
was watching the Super Bowl with you at your house. Yeah,

909
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:10,920
and I just threw it out there and I'm like,

910
00:50:11,159 --> 00:50:13,519
we're watching the super Bowl performance. I'm like, what what

911
00:50:13,559 --> 00:50:14,320
are we watching here?

912
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:14,559
Speaker 1: You know?

913
00:50:15,159 --> 00:50:17,079
Speaker 2: So I threw it out there on our Facebook page.

914
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:20,039
I said, if you will, a picture of the world's

915
00:50:20,079 --> 00:50:21,800
best Super Bowl performer ever.

916
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: And the response was unanimous and overwhelming. Thank you all

917
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,440
of our Facebook friends. It blew up. But it was

918
00:50:29,559 --> 00:50:33,119
again this magical moment, like that concert was a magical moment.

919
00:50:33,199 --> 00:50:36,199
The halftime show was a magical moment because he goes

920
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,480
through these songs. He had played Baby I'm a Star,

921
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,400
and the last song that he plays is Purple Rain

922
00:50:42,679 --> 00:50:47,480
and Lo and Behold. It starts to rain on the

923
00:50:47,559 --> 00:50:52,239
concert and there are purple lights making the rain purple.

924
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,519
I mean, you just you can't get any more religious

925
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:56,400
experience than that.

926
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,079
Speaker 2: It was fantastic.

927
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing moment of silence for Prince's SUPO performance. Tragically,

928
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,119
this is also the last song he ever performed live.

929
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,679
He performed this April fourteenth, twenty sixteen, one week before

930
00:51:10,679 --> 00:51:11,039
he died.

931
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:12,039
Speaker 5: Is that right?

932
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,599
Speaker 2: I did not realize.

933
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: That, But what a great way to end that epic career.

934
00:51:17,039 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: Wow, wow, Okay, are we done with Purple Rain? I

935
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,519
just want to throw a couple of songs a bone

936
00:51:23,559 --> 00:51:24,280
here real quick.

937
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: Okay.

938
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 2: They weren't on the Purple Rain soundtrack, which was interesting.

939
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:40,679
So More's Day in the Time have Jungle Love and

940
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:51,320
the Bird, which featured prominently in the movie. But Prince

941
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,360
made it clear to Morris Day. He's like, listen, you

942
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,719
put those songs on your own album. I'm gonna make

943
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,639
my own album and this is going to be my thing, right,

944
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,760
So Jungle Love and the Bird featured prominently in the movie,

945
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:03,800
both great songs. Jumb Be Love was a big hit

946
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,880
in nineteen eighty five. Then, of course you also have

947
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:18,480
sex Shooter by Appolonius six, not a great song. It's okay,

948
00:52:18,639 --> 00:52:20,119
Apolony looks fantastic.

949
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:21,519
Speaker 1: She does, and so there you go.

950
00:52:21,639 --> 00:52:36,079
Speaker 2: Now are we ready for final Judgment Purple Rain?

951
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 1: It is Judgment Day.

952
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 2: The sky was all purple. There are people running everywhere.

953
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:46,719
Footloose soundtrack yep versus Purple Rain soundtrack, the go.

954
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,039
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no question, it's it's overwhelming. You have

955
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:57,480
a phenomenal album, phenomenal Footloose has hit after hit after hit,

956
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,519
it's the album that not Thriller out of the number

957
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:04,719
one spot and then stayed in that spot for ten

958
00:53:05,199 --> 00:53:10,440
solid weeks. You've got performers at the top of their game.

959
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,960
You've got Kenny Loggins, You've got Denise Williams, You've got

960
00:53:14,199 --> 00:53:17,440
Anne Wilson and Mike Reno. I mean, there's just an

961
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,880
amazing amount of talent in this album. But it's a

962
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,519
pop album. It was made. It's a wake me up

963
00:53:25,519 --> 00:53:29,039
before you go go album. It is made to be

964
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,280
accessible to the public, and it's not musically intricate. On

965
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,880
the other hand, you have Prince taking songs that not

966
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:41,400
only have those pop sensibilities, but you have the musicianship

967
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:45,039
of him and the Revolution. I mean, they've got to

968
00:53:45,039 --> 00:53:47,360
get a lot of credit in this one, but it's

969
00:53:47,679 --> 00:53:52,079
conceivably the best album of the decade. In a decade

970
00:53:52,119 --> 00:53:55,599
of great albums, it is conceivably the best. It is

971
00:53:55,639 --> 00:53:57,880
the best album of nineteen eighty four. It is, and

972
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,920
you've got a lot of good stuff that year. So sorry, Footloose,

973
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:04,320
you've got some great stuff. You definitely are a big hitter,

974
00:54:04,519 --> 00:54:07,559
but there's no way you can overcome the Purple One.

975
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,599
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts that's tough to follow up, right there.

976
00:54:09,679 --> 00:54:13,280
That was pretty pretty on the nose. I love the

977
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:16,119
Footloose soundtrack. When you talk about the eighties, the soundtrack

978
00:54:16,199 --> 00:54:18,719
was a really big deal. If you had music videos

979
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,719
and songs that went with your movie. That kind of

980
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,320
went hand in hand and helped each other out. Footloose

981
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,679
hit it right on the nose. And what we say,

982
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,639
they were like six hits of the top forty.

983
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: Something like that.

984
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, six out of nine. Yeah, I mean every song

985
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,440
but one was released as a single. It was a

986
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:37,000
huge album, and it was a number one seller, and

987
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:39,039
it knocked Thriller out of the top spot. And I

988
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,280
love it. If you tell me that Footloose is the

989
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,119
second best soundtrack of the eighties, I'll go with you

990
00:54:44,199 --> 00:54:49,679
on that. But it can't overcome the mass amazing appeal

991
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,760
of Purple Rain. Purple Rain, I'm spiking the Football is

992
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,559
the best album of the nineteen eighties, and since I

993
00:54:55,599 --> 00:54:58,199
only listened to was basically in the eighties and nineties,

994
00:54:58,599 --> 00:55:01,559
it's probably my favorite album of all time.

995
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: Wow, better than Thriller?

996
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 2: Yes, because I like Bad better than Thriller.

997
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 1: Better than Bad?

998
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, Purple Rain is the best album that we've

999
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,920
covered so far and I don't see anything topping it.

1000
00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's hard to argue with that, it really is.

1001
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,119
And we mentioned this frequently. We've got a lot of

1002
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:22,480
Ready Player one fans. You still haven't read Ready Player

1003
00:55:22,519 --> 00:55:25,679
two yet. I have, But I will just say, Prince

1004
00:55:26,119 --> 00:55:31,000
and the Afterworld is a major, faceted part of this book.

1005
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:33,079
You've got to go read it. Awesome, Awesome.

1006
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: Hey, you know what we really didn't do Judgment Day.

1007
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: On movies on movies. Yeah, that's what we got to

1008
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:41,119
do next is Okay, so we are obviously both on

1009
00:55:41,159 --> 00:55:44,719
the same page. Purple Rain far and away the better album, Yes,

1010
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,599
Footloose or Purple Rain movie wise, you go first?

1011
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,599
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, now listen, fully admitting that I am

1012
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:53,719
born and raised in Oklahoma, so there is a soft

1013
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:55,920
spot in my heart for stories that are born here.

1014
00:55:56,039 --> 00:55:58,000
Elmore City is right down the road from where we're

1015
00:55:58,039 --> 00:55:58,960
recording right now.

1016
00:55:59,119 --> 00:56:01,599
Speaker 1: Say thank you again, into Arlin for all of those

1017
00:56:01,679 --> 00:56:02,920
incredible stories that alan.

1018
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,559
Speaker 2: Those were fantastic stories.

1019
00:56:04,639 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1020
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 2: So I love the movie Footloo's probably more than the

1021
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:11,840
average Joe on the street. With that said, the movie Footloose,

1022
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:17,400
the cast alone is amazing, I mean John Lithgow, Kevin Bacon,

1023
00:56:17,639 --> 00:56:20,000
Laurie Singer does a great job. Chris Penn is awesome,

1024
00:56:20,199 --> 00:56:23,000
Sarah Justica Parker and she's on her way up. She

1025
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:25,920
looks great. Diane Weist is awesome, The kids leaving a

1026
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:31,400
church is awesome. Purple Rain is a movie held up

1027
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,440
by the songs. Now you have Prince at the height

1028
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:39,760
of his powers performing amazingly, and Apollonia is gorgeous. But

1029
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,480
this is propped up by the songs. So when it

1030
00:56:43,519 --> 00:56:47,280
comes to the movies, Footloss is clearly the better movie.

1031
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,480
Purple Rain is clearly the better soundtrack. That's where I

1032
00:56:50,519 --> 00:56:51,639
am spiking the football.

1033
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,199
Speaker 1: Well, you don't need to spike the football on me. Man.

1034
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,239
We're again on the exact same page on this one.

1035
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,360
Purple Rain. The movie is, like you said, it's carried

1036
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,440
along by the music. It is a music video followed

1037
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,840
by some boy meets girl, boy loses girl, boy gets

1038
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,480
girl back story. That's great. I mean, it's Prince's story

1039
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,760
and it's entertaining, but it's not a movie that if

1040
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,559
I saw it, I'm gonna be like, Oh, Purple Raen,

1041
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:17,159
I gotta watch that. You know, maybe the lake Mini

1042
00:57:17,199 --> 00:57:18,559
Taka scene. But that's about it.

1043
00:57:22,679 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: You get to the opening scene, let's go crazy, you

1044
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,599
get Lake Mantonka, and you get purple.

1045
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: Ranting, Yeah, you get Yeah. I'm watching that first, those

1046
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:31,159
first two and then I'm like, all right, foot loose,

1047
00:57:31,199 --> 00:57:34,639
on foot Loose, I'll go back and watch again and again.

1048
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,239
Speaker 2: It is.

1049
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't grab a CD of a movie

1050
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:41,559
as you're going out the door. But if I'm finding

1051
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:44,639
things to watch on TV, I'll watch Footloops. I'll watch

1052
00:57:44,719 --> 00:57:46,480
it over and over again. It had been a long

1053
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:48,800
time since I'd seen it. And like you said, the

1054
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,440
performances made this movie. Kevin Bacon, this was his first

1055
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,599
really big breakout role, but he did a phenomenal job

1056
00:57:55,639 --> 00:57:57,360
with it. And we talked about how it was that

1057
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,760
going to the high school for one day, one day

1058
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,480
of being in high school completely changed the way that

1059
00:58:03,519 --> 00:58:05,679
he decided to portray this character and it was a

1060
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,440
key to the movie. And John Lithgow met with the

1061
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,360
Preacher for just one meeting and it completely influenced how

1062
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,719
he played this Preacher. And as a grown man watching

1063
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,519
this movie, I'm like, this guy is not an evil,

1064
00:58:18,639 --> 00:58:22,039
you know, beating thump in the Bible Helen Brimstone preacher

1065
00:58:22,079 --> 00:58:24,559
like I thought he was. He's a guy who is

1066
00:58:24,639 --> 00:58:27,559
concerned about the well being of the people. He lost

1067
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:30,480
a son, and I think you you mentioned this. This

1068
00:58:30,519 --> 00:58:33,519
is about a son who's lost a father and a

1069
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:36,760
father who's lost a son and them making peace with

1070
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,119
each other. And that is a movie that you just

1071
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:42,719
don't see very often. And then the fact that you've got, yeah,

1072
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:46,360
you've got You've got the young kids dancing their hearts

1073
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,880
out trying to beat the oppressor. Brilliant, brilliant movie. Obviously

1074
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:51,280
the winner.

1075
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,480
Speaker 2: Okay, how about this one last curve ball?

1076
00:58:53,639 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: Okay? Rake them one two three four, Okay. Purple Rain soundtrack,

1077
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:05,199
Footloose Movie, Footloose Soundtrack, Purple Raine Movie one two three.

1078
00:59:05,039 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 2: Four, Okay, I'm going Prople Raine soundtrack, Footloose Soundtrack, Footloose Movie,

1079
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,360
Prople Rain Movie. Okay, we would love to hear from you.

1080
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:16,880
Where are you guys on this?

1081
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Rank them one two three four, one two three four.

1082
00:59:20,239 --> 00:59:23,480
Speaker 2: For us, We've had a lot of fun doing a

1083
00:59:23,519 --> 00:59:24,840
four parter on these two.

1084
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 1: Such a good time, such a good time.

1085
00:59:27,159 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 2: Hey, next week we are coming back with Alien Versus Aliens.

1086
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,079
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.

1087
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 2: We are off summer of eighty four.

1088
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,159
Speaker 1: Right, we'll return to eighty four in just a few weeks. Yeah,

1089
00:59:39,159 --> 00:59:42,119
because we're gonna we're gonna throw in Terminator and Terminator

1090
00:59:42,119 --> 00:59:44,920
two after that, and then we're gonna compare all four

1091
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:48,599
of those movies since they're so heavily James Cameron, not all,

1092
00:59:48,639 --> 00:59:52,360
but heavily, and see how they all match up against

1093
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,039
each other. We'll do a one, two, three four on

1094
00:59:54,039 --> 00:59:54,679
that one as well.

1095
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 2: All right, next week nineteen seventy nine, Alien come back

1096
00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,400
to join us.

1097
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:02,239
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1098
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1099
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