Speaker 1: December sixth, twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing
Speaker 1: we call a calendar, This the O'Kelly effect. You they
Speaker 1: are listening to us live. If you're hearing us just
Speaker 1: after eight pm Eastern on a Friarsday Friday, it is
Speaker 1: and it's the open mic night on the Ocelli effect.
Speaker 1: So guess what that means? You can join in my coast,
Speaker 1: be Pete myself. We're here on every Friday night, and
Speaker 1: we're discussing whether we should open up the phone lines.
Speaker 1: I don't know, every Friday, how about that every friday
Speaker 1: we have done that? But how about some other days?
Speaker 1: How about every night? What do you guys think? I
Speaker 1: want to know, Bpete was running this by me, that
Speaker 1: you'd be willing to do more than one night a
Speaker 1: week with me. Plus I could just run the phone
Speaker 1: lines open, not if they're gonna give me the same
Speaker 1: trouble they gave me tonight. But we are trying the
Speaker 1: phone lines in a slightly different configuration, so you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully they're they're gonna work as well. We shall soon
Speaker 1: see it looks like. But hey, join us three one nine,
Speaker 1: five two seven five zero one six. That's three, one nine,
Speaker 1: five two seven, five zero one six. Now we are
Speaker 1: in an age when the news could be interesting. We
Speaker 1: could talk about things that happened this week. You probably
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to listen to most of the
Speaker 1: podcasts from the week. I put out two of them today.
Speaker 1: I think I was a little delayed, but you know,
Speaker 1: still broadcasting every night, and uh hey, I'm done with
Speaker 1: updates on Lancer for now, although I had a meeting
Speaker 1: and maybe I'll be discussing that in coming weeks because
Speaker 1: I have been formally invited back and there might be
Speaker 1: some other news coming out of that where I might
Speaker 1: be a formal part of the organization at some point here.
Speaker 1: But we shall soon see. Anyway, like I said, BPTE
Speaker 1: is with me, we could discuss the news. We are
Speaker 1: in the age of the doggie or doge coin, whatever
Speaker 1: it is you want to call it. There it is right,
Speaker 1: Rami Swami and Elon Musk working together. They're going to
Speaker 1: be all about the financial future. Plenty of picks to
Speaker 1: talk about in the Trump cabinet if you want to
Speaker 1: do that. If not, we could talk about, Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't know whoever it is that killed the health care
Speaker 1: executive there in New York. That looks like a story
Speaker 1: that the media is not going to be all that
Speaker 1: happy to tell when they actually have to get down
Speaker 1: to it, especially if they're marking bullets with messages. And gee,
Speaker 1: would it be a wonder if somebody who is running
Speaker 1: one of those healthcare organizations is getting killed by somebody
Speaker 1: who might be disgruntled? Would it be a wonder at all?
Speaker 1: Probably not. Social media pretty nasty about it. Anyway, There's
Speaker 1: all that happening, and we are in the age of
Speaker 1: great ideas with the wrong reasons. So why not let's
Speaker 1: see how it all goes. And it's all about your
Speaker 1: opinions once again. Three one nine, five two seven five
Speaker 1: zero one six, whatever's on your mind, call in and
Speaker 1: it'll be part of the conversation. And if not, I'll
Speaker 1: just sit here and talk to b Pete. Be Pete.
Speaker 1: How you doing this week?
Speaker 2: Man, Well, we're doing pretty good. But we've been freezing
Speaker 2: our butts off past three days. Supposed to get down
Speaker 2: into about twenty degrees tonight, so it's usually our end
Speaker 2: of January weather.
Speaker 3: We're getting two months early.
Speaker 2: But other than that, I do want to take a
Speaker 2: moment to talk about last week when we left. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I had been throwing football scores for the Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: George game in the room and it was in the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Georgia Tech was up twenty to six. Well
Speaker 2: Georgia who did not want the upset because the playoffs
Speaker 2: are getting ready to start for the championship. They came
Speaker 2: back and we're able to tie the game six over
Speaker 2: times later, Georgia finally won forty four to forty two,
Speaker 2: six one times six overtime. The records eight, but this
Speaker 2: one went six. And the way they do it in
Speaker 2: the college format now, they have a time limit, so
Speaker 2: during that time both of them scored a touchdown, time
Speaker 2: ran out. They went to the second overtime, both of
Speaker 2: them scored six points. That overtime ran out. Then they
Speaker 2: go to what's called I guess quick overtime.
Speaker 3: They put the ball on the five yard.
Speaker 2: Line like you're trying to make a two point conversion
Speaker 2: after a touchdown, and give four downs to score. Once
Speaker 2: the first team attempts. If they score, the other team
Speaker 2: they turn right around same five yard time they get
Speaker 2: their chance.
Speaker 1: It's almost like a sudden death It's almost like a
Speaker 1: sudden death kickoff in soccer. Good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but so they score, then you have another overtime,
Speaker 2: and so you're only getting two points per per score
Speaker 2: once you.
Speaker 3: Get into the sudden death as you want to call it.
Speaker 2: Okay, they went four of those, and finally Georgia Tech
Speaker 2: came out on top one of the best games of
Speaker 2: the year. And it just amazed me that they were
Speaker 2: that far into the fourth quarter, Georgia Tech up by
Speaker 2: fourteen points and it ends up being a forty four
Speaker 2: to forty two win for Georgia.
Speaker 3: It was amazing. Glad to see it.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, you know, I'm not into college ball. I
Speaker 1: never understood the fascination with college sports. People have tried
Speaker 1: to explain it to me over the years. They root
Speaker 1: for this or that. I mean, you know, sometimes they
Speaker 1: root for the colleges they went to or whatever. But
Speaker 1: most times people have just arbitrarily picked a college at
Speaker 1: some point and they just sort of root for their
Speaker 1: teams whatever in basketball, in football, and I just kind
Speaker 1: of go, I don't know, I can't get into it
Speaker 1: these college games. I don't know, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: I got into professional sports a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: don't know. The college thing is just it never never
Speaker 1: got me.
Speaker 3: That's amazing the amount of money that it generates.
Speaker 4: This area.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 3: When you were living here, you're.
Speaker 2: In the middle of the agenc C in the Atlantic
Speaker 2: Coast Conference, and they had a long history, especially when
Speaker 2: it comes to basketball.
Speaker 3: Usually when you move here.
Speaker 2: That one of the first questions people are asking, well,
Speaker 2: do you pull for State or Carolina?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what it comes down to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a big basketball thing, right right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, huge basketball thing.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I'm a Duke fan, so it doesn't fit into
Speaker 2: that dedication very well. But years ago is a huge
Speaker 2: state here. It's got a long tradition in the history.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They expanded the ACC a few years ago. We've got
Speaker 2: Notre Dame and other teams for football. Not all of
Speaker 2: the teams that are in the conference for football are
Speaker 2: in the basketball conference.
Speaker 3: So okay, it's conferences. The past two years have been crazy.
Speaker 2: People have been leaving this conference, going to the Big
Speaker 2: Ten Conference, going to the Big twelve Conference.
Speaker 3: They talk about even disbanding possibly.
Speaker 2: The ACC and all of the teams going to the
Speaker 2: Southeast Conference.
Speaker 3: So it's just a huge missmash.
Speaker 2: But it's amazing amount of money that it generates and
Speaker 2: it's amazing that the fan base that it has for
Speaker 2: for college football. You know, they're basically the breeding ground
Speaker 2: for the NFL.
Speaker 1: Fair enough, But I just I remember being, you know,
Speaker 1: coming out of high school, like my last years of
Speaker 1: high school, and I had, you know, young adult friends.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I had friends who were telling
Speaker 1: me they were like Duke fans for basketball and in
Speaker 1: the nineties, and I'm going, what, what, who did you
Speaker 1: even know where Duke is? You know, these guys in
Speaker 1: Jersey and all of a sudden they're Duke fans and whatever.
Speaker 1: Some people get into it because it's their home state
Speaker 1: or whatever, and I go, Okay, I guess, you know,
Speaker 1: you root for your locals and what not. But I
Speaker 1: didn't give a crap about what Seaton Hall was doing.
Speaker 2: Really, you know what I'm saying that, I'll be honest,
Speaker 2: you know, I would much rather watch college basketball than
Speaker 2: the NBA.
Speaker 3: I just I don't find the NBA very entertaining. Run
Speaker 3: and dump, run and dunk.
Speaker 2: You know, lives guys now all over seven foot, they
Speaker 2: haven't raised the basket, so it's just a run and
Speaker 2: dunk show.
Speaker 3: But college basketball, there have been.
Speaker 2: Some pretty exciting games and like I said, ACC's got
Speaker 2: a long history of good rival he's going on. But
Speaker 2: I've just never been able to get into the NBA.
Speaker 1: But in the nineteen seventies, I thought, you know, they
Speaker 1: put basketball games on. In the seventies and early eighties,
Speaker 1: it was like, oh, great basketball games. Well ESPN's got
Speaker 1: to run something, right, that was it. I enjoyed watching
Speaker 1: hockey on TV. I enjoyed watching baseball on TV. I
Speaker 1: could never watch basketball. Football is fun, you know, But
Speaker 1: I don't know the college games for some reason, I
Speaker 1: just could never get into them. It just wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, we had what we had. Princeton's got teams.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know in Jersey I'm thinking here. I
Speaker 1: know Seaton Hall is a big deal for some people.
Speaker 1: The Pirates, they were a big deal, the Seat and
Speaker 1: all Pirates. I don't know how well they do or not,
Speaker 1: because I don't care.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's got a pretty good following.
Speaker 1: Rutgers there you go, there's another one, Rutgers, Princeton. These
Speaker 1: are the big schools there, right. And I was aware that,
Speaker 1: like say, Mama's College, I think had had a basketball team,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if they were, you know, any
Speaker 1: big deal in the national whatever, you know, because there's
Speaker 1: lots of colleges out there that have teams that don't
Speaker 1: get televised, right, I mean smaller colleges, right, Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Big money goes to the big Well, that's like I'll
Speaker 2: give you an example. Notre Dame joined the ACC for
Speaker 2: football all a few years back when they expanded the conference.
Speaker 2: But they don't share They have an exclusive contract I
Speaker 2: believe it was it's with NBC to air their football game.
Speaker 3: So they don't share any of that TV money that
Speaker 3: they're getting with anybody in the conference.
Speaker 2: And that was one of the conventions of them joining
Speaker 2: that they had to give up some TV money and
Speaker 2: Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: Basically said, we worked this contractor that a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I don't think we'll be discussing that.
Speaker 2: So there's been some issues about wanting to, you know,
Speaker 2: basically tell them put up or leave.
Speaker 3: They'll find another conference.
Speaker 2: Being in a conference helps you when it comes to
Speaker 2: scheduling and things of that nature, share share money and things.
Speaker 3: But you know, Notre.
Speaker 2: Dame has been well established when it comes to football.
Speaker 2: They don't need to be in a conference except to
Speaker 2: be able to find teams to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah. See Notre Dame is one of those legendary college
Speaker 1: things for some reason or other, right, I guess because
Speaker 1: they had they had some of the original best players
Speaker 1: or whatever, or best coaches. I don't know, but it's
Speaker 1: weird to me because again, there were other smaller colleges
Speaker 1: and like there's a Red Man and the Orange Men
Speaker 1: up in the Northeast. I guess that we're at each
Speaker 1: other for a bit, and there was a bit of
Speaker 1: a rivalry regarding a certain I mean, New York's got
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of different colleges.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Syracuse is they're a strong pool. Then their contender.
Speaker 3: They're usually up there. They usually do well, They've had
Speaker 3: a lot of winning seasons. Syracus always tough team to beat.
Speaker 1: See now, if we did a call in sports show, guys,
Speaker 1: I would definitely have to do that one with VPTE, right,
Speaker 1: because I mean, unless it's boxing or baseball, you're probably
Speaker 1: not going to get much out of me. I mean,
Speaker 1: I would do research if we were doing shows on it,
Speaker 1: I'd start keeping track of stuff. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to change with what the audience wants. If
Speaker 1: you guys want an alternative version of you know, something
Speaker 1: like that, let us know. You want a sports show,
Speaker 1: That's what we'll do. If you want to talk you know, look,
Speaker 1: I'm sick of politics. Let's talk about anything. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't know certain kind of business. Cryptocurrency is the
Speaker 1: only thing I'm not going to do a show on.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you because I can't stand
Speaker 1: to even attempt to keep up with it and all
Speaker 1: the madness and all the weird little, uh you know
Speaker 1: things that are going on. People are trying to drag
Speaker 1: me into Skype groups for cryptocurrencies. Now, uh, these big groups,
Speaker 1: you know, get in on this thing and get in
Speaker 1: on that thing. It's the new wave of whatever. And
Speaker 1: we're gonna get you some bitcoin, and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: you some of this and all these weird scams. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of weird stuff going on between them
Speaker 1: and the virtual hookers on Skype. I mean, I'm getting
Speaker 1: constant contacts, most of them ailed.
Speaker 2: The day after last week's show, Saturday morning, some guys
Speaker 2: started sending me a request to join some big coin thing.
Speaker 3: I finally had to block it.
Speaker 2: Who it was right, it's like ooh, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: my photos started going off, and it's like, who is
Speaker 2: this clown?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, and it's somebody you don't even know dragging
Speaker 1: you into somewhere. You know, somehow your contact got shared.
Speaker 3: And it's like I told.
Speaker 2: You, I think we've discussed it last week. That's bitcoin
Speaker 2: is something I just do not understand. I don't understand
Speaker 2: the value of it, how it gets its value.
Speaker 3: I did hear something.
Speaker 2: Though, the other day, the guy that spent you know,
Speaker 2: when the first bitcoin was spent, it was bought to
Speaker 2: buy two Papa John's pizzas.
Speaker 3: Okay, so the value of.
Speaker 2: It was like twenty bucks or whatever it was. They
Speaker 2: took the value of it then the first coin, and
Speaker 2: it would have been if you use today's valuation.
Speaker 3: And I don't know, it wasn't just one bitcoin, but
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 2: Whatever the purchase was, and today's valuation was a billion
Speaker 2: dollars for those two Papa Job pizzas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because here's what happened. Here's the astronomical thing. You
Speaker 1: can go ahead and do an internet search and find
Speaker 1: out what a single whole bitcoin is worth today, Like,
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that, right, and I'm going to
Speaker 1: tell you what I was offered these bitcoin at I
Speaker 1: was offered them for eighty dollars a piece and didn't
Speaker 1: think that there would be any reason for me to
Speaker 1: take them, because there were a lot of things that
Speaker 1: people offered me over the years. Honestly, look get in
Speaker 1: on this because you're gonna make lots of money now.
Speaker 1: The only thing that would have been true that I
Speaker 1: thought was a good idea but couldn't afford was gold.
Speaker 1: I wanted gold coins. I could just never afford them,
Speaker 1: so I bought silver. And silver's gone up a little,
Speaker 1: down a little, you know, et cetera, et cetera, But yeah, gold.
Speaker 1: I remember the bitcoins eighty bucks apiece, and.
Speaker 2: See that was the official award now worth ninety seven thousand,
Speaker 2: four hundred and thirty five dollars and sixty four cents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so think about that. If I had been able
Speaker 1: to buy too bitcoin okay, just too back then for
Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty bucks and hang on to them.
Speaker 1: You know, the trouble is, would I have held on
Speaker 1: to them through the crashes and the booms and the bus.
Speaker 1: Would I have done that? Probably not? But if somehow
Speaker 1: I had been able to buy just two bitcoin and
Speaker 1: hang on to them, right, I'd have one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety thousand dollars today.
Speaker 3: Right, pretty good, pretty good turnover.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know, for the the price back then
Speaker 1: of say, you know, probably going out to dinner twice,
Speaker 1: I could have bought a house right back. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy house too. Yeah. So I mean
Speaker 1: just saying, you know, a nice house in most places.
Speaker 1: You know, if I tried to buy one in Jersey
Speaker 1: back back then I was living in Jersey, I could
Speaker 1: buy part of a house in Jersey for one hundred
Speaker 1: and ninety thousand dollars, but not a whole house. Oh,
Speaker 1: I just saw Jimmy James on the line and then
Speaker 1: he disappeared. So do call in and stick with us
Speaker 1: if you can, and uh, and I will get you
Speaker 1: on now. I don't know. I was having trouble dialing
Speaker 1: into my own phone lines, but I was able to
Speaker 1: with an auxiliary phone and with the computer. So you
Speaker 1: can get on the line at three one nine five
Speaker 1: two seven five zero one six. But bitcoin, we would
Speaker 1: have to bring on an expert, and I'd be willing
Speaker 1: to do that too. Let's bring on an expert to
Speaker 1: talk about bitcoin, explain it to us a little better.
Speaker 1: I mean I learned a few things recently. Remember I
Speaker 1: started talking to you about it. That's how you said
Speaker 1: at that time. Look, I don't understand it, and I
Speaker 1: don't know why it's worth anything. Uh, it is into
Speaker 1: my mind, you know, just like anything else. Though. It's
Speaker 1: the faith put into it by the people using it.
Speaker 1: I mean literally, that's why a dollar is worth what
Speaker 1: somebody says the dollar is worth what it is, right, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I'd be curious to know what the current when
Speaker 2: I say market, you know, actually how much is being
Speaker 2: spent on goods versus trading back and forth, you know,
Speaker 2: playing the price jol.
Speaker 3: I'd be really curious to know actually how much bitcoin
Speaker 3: is spent on things each year.
Speaker 1: Well. See, that's a weird thing because because of it's
Speaker 1: the nature of it, it's hard to track like that
Speaker 1: because it's you know, supposed to be anonymous purchases, so
Speaker 1: you don't know exactly where it's going. But they use
Speaker 1: it on the dark web, you know, and people do.
Speaker 1: There are some websites that accept bitcoin. There are people
Speaker 1: that take donations in bitcoin. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: in the past month, I had two people ask me
Speaker 1: if I would take donations in bitcoin. I told them
Speaker 1: if they could figure out how to give it to
Speaker 1: me without me having to go through some rigormarole. You know, sure,
Speaker 1: I guess I'll take it, but I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with it, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to use it even or where
Speaker 1: to use it. But I would certainly, you know, wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind it if somebody wants to give me some, you.
Speaker 3: Know, I guess.
Speaker 2: The thing is, if you don't have a lot, then
Speaker 2: you watch the market. When the price is up, you
Speaker 2: go ahead and sell it, take your money, walk away,
Speaker 2: or go buy more bitcoin from somebody who's you know,
Speaker 2: take advantage of the price being low. They're one of
Speaker 2: the things I looked at just a second ago, said that,
Speaker 2: you know, in the past twenty four hours has dropped
Speaker 2: quite zero point one four percent or something, you know,
Speaker 2: and then it fluctuates so much that I bet that's
Speaker 2: a hard market to follow and no win to Okay,
Speaker 2: it's at its lowest, it's gonna be let's buy or is.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to get much higher. It's
Speaker 2: probably gonna die for a couple of days. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and sell.
Speaker 3: That would drive me nuts.
Speaker 1: Well, one guy I knew just kind of on the
Speaker 1: internet in another country, and I won't identify who he is,
Speaker 1: but who was a listener of mine for a while
Speaker 1: but doesn't listen anymore. You know, he turned around and
Speaker 1: forgot that he bought a couple of bitcoin many years ago,
Speaker 1: and then about say four years ago, he decided to
Speaker 1: cash them in and see what he could get for them.
Speaker 1: And he got something like fifty grand for his two
Speaker 1: coins that he paid something like three hundred dollars for
Speaker 1: And I was just like, wow, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: great score. Now, it so happened that I was talking
Speaker 1: to him at the time about, you know, making a
Speaker 1: donation to me because I needed help with something in particular.
Speaker 1: And it was actually during a time when I had
Speaker 1: a tooth goo bad be pete, and this guy helped
Speaker 1: me out. Now that's happened more than once, but this
Speaker 1: was like four or five years ago when this happened,
Speaker 1: and the guy had had you know, fifty grand. But
Speaker 1: as you just said, now, you know, his two bitcoins
Speaker 1: and be worth one hundred and ninety if he held
Speaker 1: onto him. So I think, what he did is something
Speaker 1: like cashed in one and kept the other, but you know,
Speaker 1: and picked up like say twenty five thousand and helped
Speaker 1: me out with a couple of hundred to get my
Speaker 1: tooth out, is what he did. But I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that's like, that's a great thing that you forgot that
Speaker 1: you bought bitcoin, you know, fifteen years ago.
Speaker 2: In fact, that was a storyline in one of the
Speaker 2: episodes on The Big Bang Theory. Apparently when bitcoin first
Speaker 2: came out, you know, the nerds get together start doing.
Speaker 3: Some mining and they find some.
Speaker 2: And Seldon gets kicked off at him because of a
Speaker 2: current project they're working on to leave them out, and
Speaker 2: apparently he went, you know, sometime back when they.
Speaker 3: Forgot they had the bitcoin, he took it, moved it
Speaker 3: to a thumb drive, and it was on Leonard's key ring.
Speaker 2: Leonard looks at him and goes, I lost those keys,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. And the next scene they show is
Speaker 2: the Stewart who owns the comic book store signs the
Speaker 2: Star Wars thumb drive and thinks, I could wipe this
Speaker 2: clean and sell it for ten bucks I might meet
Speaker 2: this week, not knowing that.
Speaker 3: There's a ton of bitcoin on the thing.
Speaker 1: Right, that's that's beautiful. And the other thing is part
Speaker 1: of the reason why it's so expensive is because there's
Speaker 1: a finite amount of them that can ever be made. Right,
Speaker 1: And there's something like a trillion dollars worth of bitcoin
Speaker 1: that was created and is now in a locked account
Speaker 1: that was created by the creator of bitcoin and has
Speaker 1: never been used.
Speaker 3: Well, now, I.
Speaker 2: Thought I thought that there was an infinite mound created
Speaker 2: and it was all out there and it just needed
Speaker 2: to be mine.
Speaker 1: No, it's not infinite. Though it is out there. It
Speaker 1: can be mined, but once it's on.
Speaker 3: It I mean a death. I'm not just walk term.
Speaker 2: Okay, there was there was a set amount, finite, a
Speaker 2: finite amount made.
Speaker 3: But I thought it was all out there to be mine.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that somebody you know, was holding back
Speaker 2: a reserve that they can unleash later. Well, but wouldn't
Speaker 2: that wouldn't that affect the value if suddenly a bunch
Speaker 2: of bitcoin hit the not the market, but was suddenly
Speaker 2: put out there, wouldn't it devaluate?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Sure would. But the thing is that since the creation
Speaker 1: of bitcoin, apparently this has been stored and untouched, so
Speaker 1: somebody didn't even take a dollar out of a trillion
Speaker 1: dollars now and some people you know, and it's the
Speaker 1: guy who allegedly created it is the guy who did this.
Speaker 1: So at first that wasn't a trillion dollars, but it
Speaker 1: was just a little cash of you know, bitcoin. But
Speaker 1: now it's like a trillion dollars worth a bitcoin, which
Speaker 1: is insane. So what could you do with a trillion dollars?
Speaker 1: And by the way, how fast could you crash the market?
Speaker 1: Cash it out and be the richest person on the planet.
Speaker 1: See that's the other thing, right, the guy who has
Speaker 1: the code to that, if the code exists to be
Speaker 1: able to get into that wallet, you know, could theoretically
Speaker 1: become the richest person on the planet tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Well, I thought I remembered reading a story a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago about somebody who.
Speaker 6: Had a wallet containing some huge amount and the money
Speaker 6: disappeared and the person disappeared, and they haven't found either.
Speaker 1: Since I don't know that story, but you know, if
Speaker 1: you dig it up, I'll read it for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll have to find it. That is about a
Speaker 3: couple of years ago when I read it.
Speaker 2: Apparently this person was had an exchange and had a
Speaker 2: bunch of deposits and was doing business and then all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, the deposits disappeared and the person disappeared.
Speaker 2: They haven't been able to find the individual since, so
Speaker 2: you know, all this went Apparently it was some huge
Speaker 2: amount worth quite them. But again, you know, that's something
Speaker 2: I understand, the stock market, understand commodities market, bitcoin, and
Speaker 2: it's just something I have never been able to understand.
Speaker 3: One where it gets its value and two how the
Speaker 3: hell is it? How can it be worth so much?
Speaker 2: Because when, like I told you before, your corner of
Speaker 2: the market is suddenly worth it worthless because you got
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 1: And yet, like I said, there's this trillion dollar amount
Speaker 1: that's sitting there credited to the creator a bitcoin, but
Speaker 1: nobody knows who he is and nobody and that wallet
Speaker 1: has never been accessed, so you know, that's a weird thing.
Speaker 1: But anyway, look, Jimmy James is back on the line,
Speaker 1: so I'll take his call, but I would look forward
Speaker 1: to taking any other calls from you guys out there.
Speaker 1: Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six.
Speaker 1: But let's see what's on Jimmy's mind this week. Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you're on the experimental phone lines. Hopefully you can hear me. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's not making any noise according to this, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: got your phone muted. All right, I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: on hold. You know what, I won't put you on hold.
Speaker 1: Figure it out because you're you're hooked up as far
Speaker 1: as I see, And I'm gonna check the regular phone
Speaker 1: line where they should should be able to hear you,
Speaker 1: and they can hear me on the regular phone line,
Speaker 1: but we don't hear you. Jimmy, did you fall asleep?
Speaker 1: Oh well, if we are snoring coming out of there,
Speaker 1: be Pete will know what's happening. But anyway, yeah, I
Speaker 1: would be more than happy to bring a bitcoin expert on,
Speaker 1: but I'm no expert. I'm just starting to learn about
Speaker 1: some of what's happening in bitcoin world. Now he hung up,
Speaker 1: So maybe I had a problem with his phone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just starting to learn this stuff. And like I said,
Speaker 1: there's an interesting documentary. I should probably look it up
Speaker 1: right now. But do you have Netflix b Pete?
Speaker 3: No, and I'm gonna have to get it. I'm still
Speaker 3: kicked off because the NFL has started pirting.
Speaker 2: Out games to Amazon Prime and and ESPN, and now
Speaker 2: you've got to buy four different services to be able
Speaker 2: to watch all the NFL games. It just totally takes
Speaker 2: me off Netflix. I've never I've got max is the
Speaker 2: only thing I've got, and I've got it through a
Speaker 2: streaming box.
Speaker 3: But I can never even watch Netflix once.
Speaker 1: Well, I know there's something called Let's see, maybe it's
Speaker 1: this one, Trust No One. He was buying a plane,
Speaker 1: buying a boat, the Little Island too. Apparently he started
Speaker 1: acquiring properties. All right, I don't know this one, but
Speaker 1: now I think it was. It might have been on Netflix.
Speaker 1: But I'm looking at the bitcoin stuff there, and there's
Speaker 1: like some comedy here called Hotel Bitcoin. There's Bitcoin Trust
Speaker 1: No One, the Hunt for the Crypto King. But I
Speaker 1: know there was something else. Maybe I'll have to look
Speaker 1: it up. The Billion Dollar Code. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's one of these, but there was this documentary was
Speaker 1: very good and I was checking it out, checking out.
Speaker 1: I thought it was on Netflix, but I have to
Speaker 1: find out if it's on another service. So let's see
Speaker 1: the inventor a Bitcoin. Maybe I'll check on anything else
Speaker 1: on your mind, this week be pete before we look
Speaker 1: back at the phone lines and stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, I've been trying to get some work done around
Speaker 2: the house here.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, I go to work all
Speaker 3: day on the construction site.
Speaker 2: I come home to a construction site and it's really
Speaker 2: getting me irritated. I need to I need to change
Speaker 2: locations of jobs so I'm not spending fifteen hours and we've.
Speaker 3: Driving back and forth.
Speaker 2: I'm not even five o'clock in the morning when it's dark,
Speaker 2: and I get home at seven o'clock.
Speaker 3: At night when it's dark. I'm getting tired of it.
Speaker 3: Just trying to get stuff done around the house that
Speaker 3: I've been trying to keep up with the news you
Speaker 3: had mentioned earlier, the.
Speaker 2: United Healthcare guy that got assassinated.
Speaker 3: Oh, I find that one pretty interesting.
Speaker 2: And uh, looking at some of these picks that the
Speaker 2: president's got, and of course listening to the rebels whale
Speaker 2: and moan and mash their teeth over everything Trump, It's
Speaker 2: just it's getting to be a pretty pretty good side show.
Speaker 1: Anyway. There's apparently a bunch of these different things. And
Speaker 1: the guy whose name is Satoshi Nakamoto is the alleged
Speaker 1: name of the guy who invented bitcoin? Right? And in fact,
Speaker 1: there's a there's one on Max. Yeah, HBO had it.
Speaker 1: Let's see Money Electric to Bitcoin Mystery and uh yeah,
Speaker 1: and also they have something who invented Bitcoin the HBO
Speaker 1: documentary right, okay, and uh it looks like that came
Speaker 1: out in October, So those are on Max might want
Speaker 1: to check him out here.
Speaker 3: I'll give him a look. I haven't been on in
Speaker 3: a week or so. I need to crank it up tomorrow.
Speaker 3: See what's all the fact?
Speaker 2: I think I got an email today notification saying what's
Speaker 2: all this week on that?
Speaker 1: There you go? Well anyway, I found that there. But
Speaker 1: I know there's a few documentaries out there that are
Speaker 1: pretty extensive. Let's see if we got Jimmy James on
Speaker 1: the line this time, Jimmy, can you hear me this time? Oh?
Speaker 1: Let's see if I put you back up like this?
Speaker 1: How about now, Jimmy, Yeah, can you hear me? Ah?
Speaker 1: There we go, there we go. Okay, you are on
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 3: Can you hear us?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I always could hear you.
Speaker 3: I kept talking, all right.
Speaker 1: We weren't hearing you, Yeah, we weren't hearing you before.
Speaker 1: But but I got you now and BPT you can
Speaker 1: hear him as well. Right. Oh okay, so I do
Speaker 1: know that this new way of hooking up the phone
Speaker 1: line is working, so where our phones are working anyway, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind this week?
Speaker 8: Yes, my questions for Chuck A. Smith. But the Lions
Speaker 8: having a point nine two three average percentage and.
Speaker 7: Aiden Hutchinson returning soon. My question is, do you or
Speaker 7: do you not believe that the Lions are heading for
Speaker 7: the Super Bowl?
Speaker 9: And if not, why the hell not?
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this, Jimmy James. If you get
Speaker 1: down to the playoffs and we're looking at a super
Speaker 1: Bowl prediction, ask me to predict the super Bowl and
Speaker 1: bet against whatever the hell I say, because I have
Speaker 1: only picked like two super Bowls in my entire life. Correctly,
Speaker 1: all right, that's just the truth of it. But the Lions,
Speaker 1: I don't know. They actually won on Thanksgiving? Didn't they
Speaker 1: be beat Yeah?
Speaker 3: They won. It was close, but they pulled it out.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. That was that game where they were
Speaker 1: like winning like through the first half and they were
Speaker 1: beating their opponents handily, and then the second half they
Speaker 1: just like barely kept themselves from losing it right.
Speaker 10: Thickly discovered the prop and there's some jerk off took
Speaker 10: a picture of himself and gave away all of our plays.
Speaker 1: Could ye, So so the selfie somebody was able to
Speaker 1: like enlarge the selfie and get the plays. Is that
Speaker 1: what happened? Really?
Speaker 8: Yeah? Nobody nobody bothered.
Speaker 7: To mansion it to Dan Campbell until like almost the
Speaker 7: hand of the interview after the game, they're like, sweet,
Speaker 7: thick about that guy taking a picture showing all of your.
Speaker 8: Offensive calls and plays and stuff. He's like, what, Yeah,
Speaker 8: he was not pleased.
Speaker 1: Well, in fairness, how the hell would he know if
Speaker 1: he's occupied with the game. BPTE, did you hear about this?
Speaker 3: No, I hadn't heard anything about that.
Speaker 2: I'm right now going over the division standings, you know, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I think I think the Eagles might give you a
Speaker 2: run for your money when it comes to playoff times.
Speaker 2: So the only thing I see on the AFC side
Speaker 2: is the Bills and the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Chiefs are women and one. The Bills are ten and two,
Speaker 3: Eagles are getting to Vikings are ten and two.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be tough. I mean that you got
Speaker 2: to give the Lions credit now. They have got one
Speaker 2: hell of a team and they have they have really
Speaker 2: worked hard to get themselves on top of the division.
Speaker 2: The Vikings are right behind them, and like I said,
Speaker 2: Vikings and Eagles are the only ones close to them,
Speaker 2: I think, even in ability, even though there's a difference.
Speaker 3: In their record. But yeah, Lions are tough this year.
Speaker 3: It's going to be tough to beat.
Speaker 1: And you know, I tried looking at boxing again recently
Speaker 1: because of that. You know that that that was that
Speaker 1: Jake Paul and Tyson fight got me thinking boxing again. Uh.
Speaker 1: But honestly, I don't see any exciting fighters out there
Speaker 1: that I want to watch. I don't see you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see anything that's catching my attention. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Uh in boxing, I know people like
Speaker 1: the UFC stuff. I don't enjoy UFC.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: When baseball season comes back around, I'll talk a little bit.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I gotta be honest with you. Football
Speaker 1: is gonna get interesting for me around playoff time.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 1: Missus Obi watching it, for sure, and she's been watching games.
Speaker 1: But honestly, she watches a game. I'm doing other work,
Speaker 1: you know, So I I just I don't know. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big follower of any of the teams at
Speaker 1: this point. I barely know any of the players outside
Speaker 1: of Mahomes, who's you know, a media sweetheart right now? Uh.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs are contenders still, right, b bet or what?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're leading there their division. They're eleven and one.
Speaker 2: They're gonna be tough to be but I think they've
Speaker 2: seen some Chiefs in the armor this year.
Speaker 3: They've come close to losing a few.
Speaker 2: My homes have been able to pull them out, you know,
Speaker 2: in the last few seconds.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. It's gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: I'm predicting possibly the Lions and the Bills going against
Speaker 2: each other in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Lions in the Wait a minute, aren't they No? Wait,
Speaker 1: let's see, the Bills are an AFC team. The Lions
Speaker 1: are an NFC team. Yeah, okay, I wasn't even aware
Speaker 1: the Lions.
Speaker 3: Are in the NFC North.
Speaker 2: It's the Lions, the Vikings, Prackers, and the Bears all
Speaker 2: for four teams with you know, huge history, right crammed
Speaker 2: in one conference I've been I have been trying to
Speaker 2: I don't know, lobby the NFL to get the Cowboys
Speaker 2: out of the NFC East and send them down to
Speaker 2: the NFC South and let them deal with Tampa Bay
Speaker 2: and the Saints and put us in the nf see
Speaker 2: East where we belong. But you're not going to get
Speaker 2: the Cowboys out of the NFC East. I don't know
Speaker 2: why they're still there. When they expanded the league, they
Speaker 2: should have relign.
Speaker 1: No sense to me because where are the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 2: We're in the same We're in the NFC South with
Speaker 2: the Atlanta Falcons, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 2: You should be We're closer to d C than Dallas is.
Speaker 2: We're closer to Philadelphia than Dallas is. They should move
Speaker 2: us up to the NFC East and put Dallas in
Speaker 2: the NFC South.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with you there that that alignment geographically.
Speaker 1: I mean, it makes no sense that Texas is not
Speaker 1: in the South.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they said, but you know it was.
Speaker 2: We saw the Cowboys Redskins rivalry for years and years
Speaker 2: and years. They're in the NFC East with the Eagles,
Speaker 2: the Washington and the Giants. I think we need to
Speaker 2: just shove the Cowboys back to Texas and you know,
Speaker 2: let them build a new ego balloon down there with
Speaker 2: the Saints. Yeah, well, I mean, and that's because that's
Speaker 2: who kills us every year. Of course, Saints don't have
Speaker 2: a good team this year.
Speaker 3: We're bottom of the barrel. So you know, it really
Speaker 3: don't matter to us.
Speaker 2: But I do think we need to realign some things
Speaker 2: and put Dallas down there where they belong.
Speaker 1: Well, Texas got themselves another team though, right, so where.
Speaker 3: You got there? You got the Houston Texans.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now where are they are in Houston? You know
Speaker 1: what division are they in?
Speaker 2: Like, they're they're a FC So let me pull that
Speaker 2: up real quick. They are in the a f C South.
Speaker 3: I think let's.
Speaker 1: See, oh, it would makes sense if they were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, a f C South.
Speaker 2: You got the Texas, the Colts, and that I don't
Speaker 2: understand how the Colts in Indianapolis or in the a
Speaker 2: f C South. I think you got the uh the
Speaker 2: Jaguars in Jacksonville, Florida. You got the Titans in Tennessee,
Speaker 2: you got the Texans in Houston, and the Colts go
Speaker 2: figure the cold.
Speaker 1: See. Yeah, there's some weird stuff going on there geographically
Speaker 1: that makes no sense, right, Yeah, that is weird. And
Speaker 1: why in the hell, Dallas should be in the east
Speaker 1: is just beyond it.
Speaker 2: You got and that's another Well, you got dolphins in
Speaker 2: the AFC East. You would think they'd be in the
Speaker 2: AFC South and the Colts would be, you know, in
Speaker 2: a different section, the AFC North or somewhere.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, well at all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but see that's the thing. You putting the Dolphins
Speaker 1: in the South or the East would make sense because
Speaker 1: it's the southeastern corner of the country, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, It makes sense. But this Dallas in the
Speaker 1: East is just dumb. I don't know what the point
Speaker 1: of that is.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, you try to understand they're thinking behind some
Speaker 2: of this. It's gonna be an interesting set of playoffs though,
Speaker 2: especially with the lines as tough as they are right now.
Speaker 3: It's really gonna throw kink in the NFC.
Speaker 1: I mean, that'd be like Chargers in the South Southern Conference.
Speaker 1: You know, like, well, why would you do that?
Speaker 2: You know, they're they're Chargers in the AFC West rights
Speaker 2: and the Waiters in Vegas.
Speaker 1: Well that makes sense though, you know, because I mean,
Speaker 1: at least it's in the western half of the country.
Speaker 1: But I mean, how do you align Dallas to the
Speaker 1: east at all?
Speaker 2: Sensibly, we are not the absolute bottom of the NFL.
Speaker 3: That's the Jacksonville Jaguars and they're two and ten here.
Speaker 1: Fair enough. So anyway, Jimmy, you were saying.
Speaker 11: Go ahead, odds, because then Jerkey Jerry of the Dallas
Speaker 11: Cowboys is the guy running the NFL.
Speaker 8: Is just a puppet of mister Jerry.
Speaker 1: Don't you know that? I did not know that, but
Speaker 1: I've heard jokes to that effect in the past. But
Speaker 1: don't they also make a joke that his eyes are
Speaker 1: too far apart too they the Cowboys. Isn't that? Isn't
Speaker 1: that another joke? Right?
Speaker 8: I didn't heard that one. Wouldn't surprised me.
Speaker 12: Okay, another another interesting Lions Lions fact, they have scored
Speaker 12: almost one hundred points more than their.
Speaker 2: Closest competitor, which would be the Eagles. The Lions this
Speaker 2: year have scored four hundred and seventeen points versus only
Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty four points against them.
Speaker 1: M Well, that's pretty that's pretty vicious. I mean you're
Speaker 1: talking well, that means that you're looking at least what
Speaker 1: thirty five a game minimally, right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: See, so that that game on Thanksgiving being a squeaker,
Speaker 2: that was an anomaly. They're usually just beating the living
Speaker 2: hell out of their opponents.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what can you do again? But so so, you
Speaker 1: definitely think the Lions will be going to the Ball,
Speaker 1: which will make Jimmy James happy for sure.
Speaker 12: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think, I honestly think they've got a good shot
Speaker 2: going with the Bowl.
Speaker 3: It's just gonna be whether they're playing the Chiefs or
Speaker 3: the Pills.
Speaker 1: Hell of a year for you, Jimmy James. Look, Trump
Speaker 1: won and maybe the Lions will take the Bowl. How
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 8: Yes, th Rell apocalypto stuff there.
Speaker 1: Well, it's not like the Browns are going to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, is it? Did they even exist anymore?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're They're three and nine, just like the Panthers.
Speaker 2: Pretty pathetic this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but aren't they pathetic every year? The Browns? I mean,
Speaker 1: have they gone last year?
Speaker 2: They were up there, They had a good record. Last year,
Speaker 2: they were really they were playing some good football. Really
Speaker 2: think I think the injuries have killed them this year.
Speaker 1: Okay, My understanding is it's like the Browns is always
Speaker 1: the team you can write off immediately. But yeah, good Jimmy.
Speaker 7: The Browns that got big the quarterbacks like a criminal.
Speaker 8: I think it's causing some problems here.
Speaker 1: Which one is the criminal quarterback with the Browns.
Speaker 3: Browns?
Speaker 8: Well, the guy that's apparently not playing.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I don't know. I was just asking. I
Speaker 1: was asking an honest, open question. I don't know who
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 7: I don't know the guys man because he rarely plays
Speaker 7: to soon trouble.
Speaker 1: So there's a Browns quarterback that's in trouble a lot
Speaker 1: b Pete. What do you know about that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: Well, now I'm trying to look up that right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: realize you know, the Browns will remember Auto Graham. I
Speaker 2: mean that's a name that goes back centuries. Browns joined
Speaker 2: in fifty Let's see what their roster is, their fifty
Speaker 2: three man roster.
Speaker 3: Jervis Jernis Winston is currently the quarterback.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a name I don't recognize.
Speaker 2: Even becourse they don't have their pedal record next to
Speaker 2: the name.
Speaker 3: No, so I can't look up whether they made bail
Speaker 3: or not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a different website. You got to check the
Speaker 1: bail on a different website, you know.
Speaker 3: Now, Jimmy, which what's the.
Speaker 2: Was this an old quarterback or is he somebody still
Speaker 2: currently on the team or is he fulling time?
Speaker 8: They might have just stitched him like a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, James Wilson is still there.
Speaker 2: Bailey Zapp is a backup, and they had another one
Speaker 2: listed as Dorian Thompson.
Speaker 3: Robinson went to E C. L A.
Speaker 1: You know, I kept seeing commercials for the Aaron Rodgers story.
Speaker 1: Who did he play for?
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was there, the Patriots guy who ended up
Speaker 2: going to jail for shooting Patriots.
Speaker 13: Right, yeah, a Rogers, you play.
Speaker 8: For the Packers. Now he plays for the Jets.
Speaker 3: Oh that's well, who am I taking up? Who's the
Speaker 3: guy with the Patriots to?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: That's uh that Aaron Hernandez.
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez was throwing me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's some rumblings about Rogers now want He wanted
Speaker 2: to go to the Jets, and now apparently the Jets
Speaker 2: don't want him.
Speaker 3: He's had a pretty pretty crappy year.
Speaker 2: Of course, he was injured all last year, so they
Speaker 2: were hoping he'd come out, you know, gangbusters this year,
Speaker 2: but it didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Well, again, though, the Jets is exactly where you know,
Speaker 1: careers go to die, so you know, I'm not not
Speaker 1: surprised there because that even when I was watching it
Speaker 1: a lot as a kid. I mean, it was like
Speaker 1: every time they got a good play, it's like the Mets,
Speaker 1: when they get a great player, they're no longer great
Speaker 1: as soon as they put on that uniform.
Speaker 3: That's the end of it. Was a guy hard Jets fan.
Speaker 2: He was a Joe Willie Namath fan, and he stuck
Speaker 2: with him year after year after year. So I kind
Speaker 2: of know how he feels this year watching the Panthers play.
Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm looking for this docu dramas about Oh,
Speaker 1: it was Aaron Hernandez who I was thinking of. I said,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and I met Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, twenty twenty
Speaker 1: Netflix series that explores the life of former NFL player
Speaker 1: Aaron Hernandez. For some reason, they were really pushing this
Speaker 1: thing recently, but apparently it's a twenty twenty series from Netflix. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I was seeing commercials for it for some reason. But
Speaker 1: it was Aaron Hernandez. Now that's the guy I think
Speaker 1: did shoot somebody.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, he got nailed for apparently a drive by
Speaker 2: and in investigating that going through his trial and all.
Speaker 3: Apparently they came across some evidence where he was involved
Speaker 3: in an earlier shooting that they hadn't tied him to.
Speaker 3: So I think they took placed two names on him
Speaker 3: as victims.
Speaker 1: Wow, so there you go.
Speaker 7: Remember of the gang, he was a gang member while
Speaker 7: being in the NFL.
Speaker 8: He was a career criminal.
Speaker 1: Uh was what was the MS thirteen? Just I'm guessing
Speaker 1: with the uh you know, mind of Aaron Hernandez the
Speaker 1: killer inside. I mean, I'm looking at all these listings.
Speaker 1: It's pretty wild.
Speaker 8: We're calling out fib he was with sounds right, mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think it was thirteen.
Speaker 3: I think he was. Uh, I'll see if we can
Speaker 3: find it now. I don't think it was MS thirteen.
Speaker 1: Like a lot of familiar like Mexican mafia or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm thinking. Crip a crip, no kidding, I.
Speaker 8: Think I don't know. It's not normal football stuff. He's
Speaker 8: kind of an odd at heat usually.
Speaker 3: Remember of the Bloods.
Speaker 1: He was a member of the Bloods.
Speaker 8: Okay, yeah, oh my bad.
Speaker 1: Jimmy was close. You know, Crips and Bloods they're they're
Speaker 1: kind of uh inexorably tied together, right, Yeah, he was.
Speaker 2: A member of the Bloods and apparently he just got
Speaker 2: nailed for having some gang paraphernia or something in jail.
Speaker 1: M Let's see, I'm looking into the chat room here.
Speaker 1: We could uh street cream because when anybody asks, we
Speaker 1: can tell him about aot. Okay, an uncle, of course
Speaker 1: you need to print up some retro trans resistor radio shirts.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's talking to Aaron in the chat room there. Okay,
Speaker 1: selfie captures lions intel. Yeah, I had not heard this story,
Speaker 1: but have you have you found that story yet? Be
Speaker 1: pete about the lions and the selfie problem there?
Speaker 3: Well, let me see fong.
Speaker 1: M And anyway, anybody wants to join in the conversation
Speaker 1: and change it up any which way you want, Three
Speaker 1: one nine five two seven five zero one six is
Speaker 1: the number to call, and I'll be more than happy
Speaker 1: to add you right onto the line. Actually, it looks
Speaker 1: like I got to switch these things up here real quick,
Speaker 1: and I am going to do that right now. Jimmy,
Speaker 1: hang on a second, all participants are muted. Okay, now
Speaker 1: that will put Jimmy back on the line. Jimmy you're
Speaker 1: back right. Here we go, there we go. Okay, so
Speaker 1: now we're set up correctly. That's weird.
Speaker 3: Okay, I found the story.
Speaker 1: So you got the story on the Lions getting getting Uh.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is uh now, this is from MSN and
Speaker 2: it's dated December. A. No, that's I'm sorry, that's the
Speaker 2: schedule coming up.
Speaker 3: Says uh.
Speaker 2: The ta Lions boss Day Campbell, and highest concerned effort
Speaker 2: emerged that Savere Gibbs might have accidentally given away team
Speaker 2: secrets on social media. In the wake of the Lions
Speaker 2: now biting twenty three to twenty twenty victory over the
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears on Thanksgiving, Gibshild shared a celebratory snap of
Speaker 2: teammate Jamar Jefferson online. The young star was buzzing from
Speaker 2: the win, having racked up an impressive eighty seven yards
Speaker 2: in just nine garys, contributing to Detroit's assent to an
Speaker 2: eleven to one record, but the photo inadvertently showcased more
Speaker 2: than just team spirit. A whiteboard in the background seemed
Speaker 2: to reveal the Lions dropped back protections for running backs.
Speaker 3: When quizzed about the potentially.
Speaker 2: Revealing post featuring some of their plays, Lions head coach Campbell,
Speaker 2: who had been unaware of the leak, was clearly concerned.
Speaker 1: I bet he was, Jimmy, But you heard about this
Speaker 1: like right after the game.
Speaker 7: Oh, I was watching the press conference and then like
Speaker 7: the last thing, someone asks, do you think it's bad
Speaker 7: that this guy put all your stuff out there before
Speaker 7: the game?
Speaker 8: And dam Campbell's like, what what are you talking about?
Speaker 8: And then they gave him the names. He goes, no,
Speaker 8: I did. Obviously didn't know about this. Obviously it's better that.
Speaker 7: Our stuff now be out all over the place.
Speaker 8: This this interview is over, and he walked away. He
Speaker 8: wasn't happy at all.
Speaker 1: Wow, so this happened before the game. He takes a
Speaker 1: selfie and all the players get out there. That is hilarious.
Speaker 1: I mean, and they still won. That's the even weirder
Speaker 1: part about it.
Speaker 3: Right, Well, yeah, I will you know, I'll be honest
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 2: I thought that game was going to go to overtime.
Speaker 2: They pulled it out right in the last second.
Speaker 8: That game would have been blowout. If they had had
Speaker 8: some little cheating help there, it might be right.
Speaker 1: I I you know, I can't contest what you're saying there,
Speaker 1: because that is just hilarious to me that, you know,
Speaker 1: people got to be careful with these. Social media is
Speaker 1: a dangerous thing. You never know what you could be
Speaker 1: exposing in the background of any given picture.
Speaker 2: Well if you if you watch a game, then they
Speaker 2: show you know, sideline shots, and the coaches and all
Speaker 2: the majority of them when they go to either put
Speaker 2: a play in talking into their microphone, and that all
Speaker 2: of them hold their play sheets and that up over
Speaker 2: their face so that you can't lip read.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what they're telling. I mean, it's stealing info.
Speaker 2: You know, we used to think that stealing signs in
Speaker 2: baseball was about the worst case of it. But as
Speaker 2: we see now, you know, guys are really worried about
Speaker 2: someone sitting there watching the broadcast or even the lips
Speaker 2: going okay, fast play coming up.
Speaker 3: You know it's going to be deep get your back
Speaker 3: or you know, a blit, it's coming up. We're gonna
Speaker 3: we're gonna run a screen, okay, guys. Blitzing just amazing.
Speaker 2: Technology is so quick to give us those images and
Speaker 2: that you can relay a response to somebody instantaneous and
Speaker 2: basically change your entire defense in a matter of seconds.
Speaker 1: You know, absolutely, Hey, listen. I'm gonna go ahead and
Speaker 1: put Jimmy James on hold. But don't worry, Jimmy, We'll
Speaker 1: come back to here because I want to go to
Speaker 1: a break. We are almost out of an hour here.
Speaker 1: I got it started a little late, but I want
Speaker 1: to take a little break here at least get one
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Speaker 1: For the second segment of the Live Friday Night Open
Speaker 1: Mike and Call in show the o'cell effect. But hey, look,
Speaker 1: I want to hear from you guys. Look you don't
Speaker 1: want to call in tonight, fine, send me an email, okay,
Speaker 1: info at ocelli dot com or you can send it
Speaker 1: to blind JFK researcher at gmail dot com. Message BPT
Speaker 1: on Facebook whatever. Don't message me on Facebook because I'm
Speaker 1: kind of locked out of my account right now. But
Speaker 1: I got I'm able to get through in one device
Speaker 1: and it's a very bad device. So anyway, for some reason,
Speaker 1: they got me secured out of my Facebook account, but
Speaker 1: you can contact me on X contact me anywhere. Let
Speaker 1: me know if you think another night would be better
Speaker 1: for call ins, I'll add it. You know, if you
Speaker 1: think that my Monday night show, I could go back
Speaker 1: to doing a Monday night show. I could probably do
Speaker 1: a call in show on Mondays. I could do it
Speaker 1: on Tuesdays Wednesdays and just start taking calls on other nights.
Speaker 1: If you guys are into the call in thing, let's
Speaker 1: get it going and let's get calls rolling. But that
Speaker 1: requires live participation, which has really been gone downhill the
Speaker 1: past few years. So you know, let me know. We'll
Speaker 1: make more calling nights. I mean, I like doing the
Speaker 1: Friday night thing, but I want more callers. So you know,
Speaker 1: I'm happy Jimmy James calls in every Friday, and some
Speaker 1: other people join us from time to time, but yeah,
Speaker 1: we need more? Is it because it's Friday night? Be Pete?
Speaker 1: What do you think? Oh? Before I get to what
Speaker 1: do you think? Three one nine five, two seven five
Speaker 1: zero one six? And we'll keep that number the same
Speaker 1: every night we do call ins three one nine five
Speaker 1: to two seven five zero one six. B Pete, what
Speaker 1: do you think about all this.
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at Friday nights and I see people
Speaker 2: at work, and you know, especially people with kids, and
Speaker 2: that it seems like Friday's is tonight that you know,
Speaker 2: they go out, they do something, or kids got something
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: Just I don't know.
Speaker 2: Fot is probably a hard time right now. Just get
Speaker 2: people that are sitting around listening to the show. You know,
Speaker 2: I don't know if they'd be more available during the
Speaker 2: week or not. I'm busy every night, so you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's like having a house full
Speaker 2: of kids and trying to listen to a show and
Speaker 2: participate when you know you've got stuff going on.
Speaker 1: Well fair enough, but I mean I'd even do a
Speaker 1: Sunday I was, you know, playing with doing Sundays on here,
Speaker 1: but didn't seem like it caught much interest. I would
Speaker 1: do a Sunday call in show. I do a Monday
Speaker 1: call in show, even though I'm not currently broadcasting on
Speaker 1: those nights. If there's a night that you think would
Speaker 1: be better, you, the listener out there, think would be
Speaker 1: better for call ins, tell me and I'll do it.
Speaker 1: We'll see if we can make it happen. And you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday,
Speaker 1: any day, because I'm looking to switch things up here
Speaker 1: and I'm willing to split it into different topics. You
Speaker 1: got a topic that's not being discussed anywhere else, tell
Speaker 1: me about it. There's an area of interest, but you
Speaker 1: want covered in a different way.
Speaker 3: We can do it.
Speaker 1: I can do it even on nights when I can't
Speaker 1: get BPT to co host, even if I'm not well
Speaker 1: read on the subject. I told you I'll do a
Speaker 1: sports show, and I'll just have to, you know, refamiliarize
Speaker 1: myself with sports. I used to do it. I used
Speaker 1: to be well aware of sports. I used to listen
Speaker 1: to Wfan and New York all the time. I actually
Speaker 1: used to call in on the overnights at WFAN And
Speaker 1: have you ever heard of wfan and New York PP. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was one of the first, like all
Speaker 1: sports radio stations like in the country.
Speaker 3: But no, I don't.
Speaker 2: I'm wondering though, if part of it is people have
Speaker 2: gotten so used now to just pick it up the
Speaker 2: podcast and listening to it while they're communing. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's usually when I listen to your stuff is when
Speaker 2: I'm on my way to work, I don't have anything
Speaker 2: going on, and I'm tired of listening to radio. I'll
Speaker 2: pull yours up listen to a podcast. I'm just wondering
Speaker 2: if people have gotten used to the podcast form of
Speaker 2: things now and I don't have to call in and
Speaker 2: listen to the show because I can always listen to
Speaker 2: it later.
Speaker 1: See, that's the thing. That's why the live shows. Everybody's
Speaker 1: live numbers and I do mean everybody's live numbers are down,
Speaker 1: you know, And a lot of these podcasters don't bother
Speaker 1: to do a live show at all where people even
Speaker 1: have access to it. I mean, I don't think Joe
Speaker 1: Rogan does a live show, and you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I know he's well supported and sponsored and all that,
Speaker 1: and you know, people like that. They're in a different
Speaker 1: strata than me. But even guys that are, you know,
Speaker 1: doing pretty successful independent shows, for the most part, their
Speaker 1: live show is not the big attraction. It's not where
Speaker 1: most of their listeners are. I mean, are we at
Speaker 1: a time when the call in show is no longer necessary?
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I like the idea of
Speaker 1: being able to commune and call in and you know,
Speaker 1: either argue or share ideas or hear from other people
Speaker 1: in other parts of the country, you know, especially when
Speaker 1: things are going on and you know somebody's local to
Speaker 1: an area. I mean, I've enjoyed those kind of calls
Speaker 1: on this show, like where we found out about what
Speaker 1: was happening in uh in Uh where was it in
Speaker 1: Wisconsin when it was happening You remember that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, or where we found out about what
Speaker 1: was happening in Minnesota. We we had you know, ace
Speaker 1: Lynn Miller went and uh, you know, appeared at the
Speaker 1: Fetzer trial, right he called in. I love that.
Speaker 3: I need to update too. I need to check in
Speaker 3: and see where Fetzer's saw this settled part of his
Speaker 3: Amateur Awards.
Speaker 1: Oh and you know a weird thing. Now, I wasn't
Speaker 1: sure if I was going to mention this on air,
Speaker 1: but you know what, I think you'll enjoy the controversy
Speaker 1: of it, or controversy be pete as they say on
Speaker 1: the other side of the pond. Did you know that
Speaker 1: this year there was an attempted boycott of Lancer And
Speaker 1: I didn't know about it until after the conference.
Speaker 3: No, I hadn't heard anything. Give us the details.
Speaker 1: Okay, check this out now, I don't know who you
Speaker 1: follow on Facebook. But I find it strange that you
Speaker 1: didn't find out about this, but others did. Apparently there
Speaker 1: was a Facebook group even that was created to boycott Lancers. See,
Speaker 1: I knew our numbers were low, they weren't as low
Speaker 1: as some people thought they were going to be. And
Speaker 1: from what I understand, we did better than any other
Speaker 1: conference this year. And you have the other JFK conferences,
Speaker 1: and there were two that were competing with us. One
Speaker 1: of them dropped the in person event entirely, and the
Speaker 1: other one was Judy Baker's. You know, she won't drop
Speaker 1: that event. If five people show up, She's going to
Speaker 1: do it right, right, I mean, that's her whole life.
Speaker 1: So anyway, Judy did her thing. We supposedly had better
Speaker 1: attendance than her, and there was no WET conference. And
Speaker 1: like I said, the Kappa conference was canceled in person,
Speaker 1: they only did an online thing. But it turns out
Speaker 1: that because of the objection to one presenter at at Lancer.
Speaker 1: Guess who, and it's a name, you know, be Pete.
Speaker 1: Guess who decided to try and get a boycott rolling
Speaker 1: against Lancer. I want you to try and guess and
Speaker 1: then I'm going to try and get Jimmy James to guess.
Speaker 3: Of who would start a boycott. Yeah, I haven't a clue,
Speaker 3: no clue.
Speaker 1: Bro All right, let me let me get Jimmy and
Speaker 1: ask him the same question. Say, Jimmy, you were listening
Speaker 1: to what I said, right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, swear up the bet. My guess would be Jimmy d.
Speaker 1: And Jimmy James for the win. Can you believe that?
Speaker 3: Be?
Speaker 1: Pete?
Speaker 3: Well? What what Stako?
Speaker 1: Did he have an issue with Fred Litwyn?
Speaker 3: Are you serious?
Speaker 1: Dead serious?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: We spoke and you know that sounds like some parton
Speaker 2: my friend, some dickhead moved that Fetcher would.
Speaker 1: Pull instead de Eugenio pulled it. So yeah, is that
Speaker 1: too much?
Speaker 3: Jimmy did you that's just playing being petty?
Speaker 1: I agree with you. But Jimmy James, did you hear
Speaker 1: about this? Did you know? Or was that just your
Speaker 1: calculated guests.
Speaker 7: Just listening to you? I, I reasoned out, I just
Speaker 7: knew the answer. He's the only person that does things
Speaker 7: like this.
Speaker 1: You know, agreed. I'll tell you another weird thing about
Speaker 1: him which has gotten strange in the past few years.
Speaker 1: And I was unaware of this until recently.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 1: Apparently he did a couple JFK presentations in the past
Speaker 1: year or two where he is kind of doing the
Speaker 1: Jews were responsible for killing Kennedy thing.
Speaker 3: Oh, he's been hitting down.
Speaker 16: I'd have to tie him back at.
Speaker 2: Least into probably two thousand and sixteen maybe. Okay, when
Speaker 2: he started that spout, did he really I.
Speaker 1: Didn't realize that because I always thought that Jim.
Speaker 3: D was a liberal, so braak about it. Then he
Speaker 3: would slide a little comment in. You know, the Fetzer.
Speaker 2: Defetcher is one of those the Jews did it about
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff and a lot of the people
Speaker 2: that were tied with Fetcher back when he was doing
Speaker 2: his show with Mike King and the rest of them.
Speaker 3: You know, you just used to irritate the living hell
Speaker 3: out of me.
Speaker 2: I asked him one time in a chat room or something,
Speaker 2: if you know some Jews stoles go right back when
Speaker 2: he was in high school or something, because it's always
Speaker 2: been the Jews did it.
Speaker 1: Well, you heard that freak out he did on Ground
Speaker 1: zero radio right where he was like Holocaust denial and
Speaker 1: all that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been, he's been. I don't know what. I
Speaker 3: don't know how people go off in that spiral.
Speaker 2: They think that the Jews are responsible for everything that
Speaker 2: goes on in the world that they don't like.
Speaker 1: Well, no, there was that book.
Speaker 9: There was the way last week after we guys, after
Speaker 9: we talked and I started thinking about these mysterious alleged
Speaker 9: q N and Ninja's Yeah, everything taken into consideration.
Speaker 7: I'll tell you who they were working with their court.
Speaker 7: Jude's very baker. They were harassing your conference.
Speaker 1: No, no, they were actually well here's the here's the
Speaker 1: thing I got to counter your your claim me and
Speaker 1: here's why. At the time, Judy was on stage and
Speaker 1: she's part of that moment of silence and all that. Now, okay,
Speaker 1: so they were actually disrupting something that Judy was involved with.
Speaker 7: So doesn't that just doesn't that just make more publicity
Speaker 7: than her mind for her?
Speaker 1: Well, I didn't see any additional publics. That's the other
Speaker 1: funny thing is find it online outside of my reporting
Speaker 1: about it that it happened. Yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 8: Haven't heard it.
Speaker 7: I heard it from you, I guess I did hear
Speaker 7: it from one. I heard it from one other person
Speaker 7: that went, oh uh, your buddy.
Speaker 8: There was Doug Her, Bob Clark went down there. He
Speaker 8: mentioned the q Adam then just well, well.
Speaker 1: You're talking about the guy who doesn't want gunman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but wasn't Rob wasn't in Dallas this year. Are you
Speaker 1: sure it wasn't Joe over there?
Speaker 8: Oh well, maybe it's him. He was probably talking it
Speaker 8: on he's on Rock Clark.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, yes, okay, that's what happened. Well, you know,
Speaker 1: Joe might have been there, but I didn't see him,
Speaker 1: but I believe if he was there, I believe him.
Speaker 1: But outside of us too reporting on it, you don't
Speaker 1: see an article. You don't see anybody else complaining about it.
Speaker 1: It's just something that happened. I don't even I mean
Speaker 1: I can't you know, I don't have access to Judy's
Speaker 1: groups online or whatever. Maybe she said something about it,
Speaker 1: but I didn't see anybody else report about it, nobody,
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know. If she was gonna
Speaker 1: do it for publicity's sake, then she, you know, didn't use.
Speaker 8: That under her ass. You're uffarts and look at the impact,
Speaker 8: and one pisses me off. Look how Professor Mellon has.
Speaker 7: Treated the JFK community community since this same incident. Just
Speaker 7: happened to happen right before COVID with the same characters
Speaker 7: Judy Baker.
Speaker 8: And I tell you there is no Q and there
Speaker 8: are no such people, so what the hell's going on there? Well,
Speaker 8: attackled one of them.
Speaker 7: I had borrowed one of them people and had a
Speaker 7: little talkie poo with them.
Speaker 1: Well maybe you should go with me this coming year,
Speaker 1: Jimmy James, because I'm being invited back. And you know,
Speaker 1: it seems like they've had a presence on the knoll
Speaker 1: every year now around the anniversary, so I don't know,
Speaker 1: And that started happening, that's true. That is the one
Speaker 1: thing that freaked Jone Mellon out and told her to
Speaker 1: you know, it basically got her to finally say, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do any more conferences. And then when
Speaker 1: she was invited this year to do a conference and
Speaker 1: I'm not saying which conference invited her, but a conference
Speaker 1: invited her to speak, and she told them that she
Speaker 1: would do a presentation about how pointless conferences were. So,
Speaker 1: you know, she was enraged by the QA non people.
Speaker 1: But those people made the news because they were there
Speaker 1: was a large group of them that year, and they
Speaker 1: made you know, national news. Because they were, you know,
Speaker 1: literally chanting out there on the noll for JFK. Junior
Speaker 1: to show back up. The guys I saw had signs,
Speaker 1: you know, but there wasn't a hundred of them. There
Speaker 1: was barely enough of them to make that human chain
Speaker 1: across Elm Street. So it's a small number that was
Speaker 1: there this year. But yeah, but a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago they were all like they occupied the noll pretty much.
Speaker 8: Well this time next year, don't worry about it.
Speaker 9: I'll take care of it.
Speaker 8: I'll have my own plumbers group. We'll make sure that
Speaker 8: this don't happen again.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, send him my way. I know
Speaker 1: exactly where to get caught me in donuts on a Friday.
Speaker 1: So and we're going to try and make a special
Speaker 1: restaurant deal with Lancer. We're going to see what we
Speaker 1: can do. So, you know, send you plumbers my way.
Speaker 1: I'll try and get him fed for cheap, all right. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: So can you believe that though Diugenio wanted to, you know, like,
Speaker 1: don't you know, boycott Lancer, he was trying to pull
Speaker 1: off on Facebook.
Speaker 8: I can't understand.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I mean, yes, I appreciate Jim d Genio traditionally.
Speaker 7: I'm sad to hear that he's going anti Semitic.
Speaker 8: If that is the case, I have a person I
Speaker 8: heard him saying anything.
Speaker 7: Well, he wasn't known how fetzer SOA's Leno Sana Hell,
Speaker 7: they were so broadcasting together.
Speaker 3: Well, now I've never.
Speaker 2: Heard d Geno say anything, you know, even remotely. It
Speaker 2: was the Jews falt, that's a fetcher thing that he started.
Speaker 3: I want to stay back. I don't know. I came
Speaker 3: back from.
Speaker 2: Switzerland and it even started way back, probably twenty twelve. Yes,
Speaker 2: little influences, little comments that would be made in his book,
Speaker 2: his podcast or his blobs and things like that.
Speaker 1: Well in twenty twelve, right in twenty twelve, I was
Speaker 1: still listening to his show at the time, it was
Speaker 1: called The Real Deal. Yeah, and I used to listen
Speaker 1: to his JFK shows because I used to consume any
Speaker 1: JFK show that showed up on the podcast, you know Landscape, right,
Speaker 1: and I was listening to his shows. And he went
Speaker 1: from not believing you know that one guy who wrote
Speaker 1: the whole you know, Israel is responsible for Kennedy's assassination.
Speaker 1: It's the Masad that one guy who wrot wrote that book, right,
Speaker 1: People keep bringing it up when they want to blame
Speaker 1: the Jews for everything. And Fetzer had read it at
Speaker 1: one time, or said he read it at one time
Speaker 1: and disagreed with it. And somewhere around twenty twelve he
Speaker 1: started saying, you know, some of these things are starting
Speaker 1: to make sense to me.
Speaker 2: It was after he started popping off about nine to
Speaker 2: eleven and that group that he was involved with, Mike
Speaker 2: King and.
Speaker 3: What is it, Dennis Semino and a few others, Larry Rivera.
Speaker 3: You know, he started the Jews.
Speaker 2: The Jews did it became his mantra during nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: and from there it creeped into his JFK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it took a few years because it.
Speaker 3: Took a while. It was slow, and it was gradual,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't a lot. It was just a comment
Speaker 3: here or there. And then he got involved who is it?
Speaker 3: Was it? Somebody wrote the.
Speaker 2: Book about the Holocaust never happened and it was a
Speaker 2: buddy of FETs.
Speaker 4: Okay, And I think I know the answer to this
Speaker 4: because there's a guy that's been talking like this crazy
Speaker 4: crap that Fetcher does for thirty years and.
Speaker 8: I think that's where he got it from.
Speaker 7: And I think the guy that wrote the book you're
Speaker 7: thinking of, is that crazy David Ike.
Speaker 3: No, it's not David Ike, not I I well, I
Speaker 3: can't think of the guy's name. I'll have to see.
Speaker 3: I'll have to look in some of my old block
Speaker 3: posts in that. But I think that's where it came from.
Speaker 3: It started on the nine to.
Speaker 2: Eleven side and then worked its way in and then
Speaker 2: that's when Fetcher started hanging out with these people that
Speaker 2: were claiming, yeah, the Holocaust never happened, and there's no
Speaker 2: evidence of any sinide or anything being used.
Speaker 3: It's no cyclone being that was for de lausing. You
Speaker 3: know the numbers.
Speaker 2: It's funny how six million comes up and all these
Speaker 2: references even before the Holocaust, of victims.
Speaker 3: Of this and that, and it was just it just
Speaker 3: started snowballing.
Speaker 2: It got bigger and bigger and bigger, and Fetcher started
Speaker 2: getting into well, you know, you know, Fetcher has a
Speaker 2: habit of making a statement.
Speaker 3: In the form of a question, like instead of saying,
Speaker 3: I don't believe that they.
Speaker 2: Could have functionally gotten rid of six million people, as
Speaker 2: just too many people to get rid of in that
Speaker 2: amount of time into is it possible that six million
Speaker 2: people were annihilated during the Holocaust?
Speaker 3: Question mark?
Speaker 2: He's in, Fetcher is real good for that making a
Speaker 2: statement in the form of a question. Judith Baker and
Speaker 2: Ed Haslam are the same way. You know, they put
Speaker 2: a question mark behind something and then Clay Well, what
Speaker 2: making a statement?
Speaker 3: I was just asking the question. What was some serious
Speaker 3: debate about it?
Speaker 1: Okay, I figured it out. It is the book that
Speaker 1: Fetzer read that he started following and believing in was
Speaker 1: by Michael Collins Piper, and it was called Final Judgment. Okay,
Speaker 1: and he is not the only guy. But since Michael
Speaker 1: Collins Piper's death, Okay, many people had picked up on this.
Speaker 1: President Kennedy was killed not because of the CIA, not
Speaker 1: because of the military intelligence in the US, but it
Speaker 1: is the Masade who had him killed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he was going to make Israel give up
Speaker 2: their nukes. And I'm sitting here thinking, like Kennedy could
Speaker 2: do that. You know, the Israelis to this day have
Speaker 2: not admitted that they have. Well the first time, the
Speaker 2: hell is Kennedy going to make them give them up?
Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. The first trouble with that whole
Speaker 1: you know, giving up the nukes or not get the bomb.
Speaker 1: Theory is that, honestly, Israel already had the bomb by
Speaker 1: the time Kennedy was assassinated. Yeah, there was nothing to prevent.
Speaker 1: Now do they admit it, not necessarily, but we know
Speaker 1: this already. Factually, they they had great, great espionage and
Speaker 1: they picked up on this stuff before anybody shared it
Speaker 1: with them freely, So you know they were able to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 7: Read I've read a lot of documents, and I'm telling
Speaker 7: you Jesus James Jesus Ankleton was working to give them
Speaker 7: the information. So I disagreeably, I don't think they got
Speaker 7: the bomb until the late sixties early seventies.
Speaker 8: And that was what James Jesus Ankleton did. Why Israel
Speaker 8: to this day revere him and apparently Masade has a
Speaker 8: shrine to the guy.
Speaker 3: Literally, Yeah, Well do the US liberty happen?
Speaker 1: Well, that's like what sixty seven.
Speaker 8: Sixty six, sixty seven and six up there.
Speaker 2: I think I think they.
Speaker 3: Hit the bomb before then.
Speaker 1: They did. I'm telling you they did, and we know
Speaker 1: this from other intelligence reports from other nations. We know
Speaker 1: they already had it by then.
Speaker 2: Well, see when did d'mona go into service, Demona nucular site.
Speaker 1: Let's see USS liberty. When did this occur? Let me
Speaker 1: just double check on that.
Speaker 3: In sixty seven? Yeah, I just looked it up.
Speaker 1: I just I blurted that out off the top of
Speaker 1: my head. But apparently on June eight, nineteen sixty seven. Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just want to make sure because because I don't
Speaker 1: want to misquote or something, but there it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was sixty seven that that happened. And my understanding
Speaker 1: is they had it by then. You know, even if
Speaker 1: you go with some of the controversial claims, like again
Speaker 1: Joan Mellon's book Blood in the Water, you check out
Speaker 1: the whole issue with what was going on between Israel
Speaker 1: and Egypt at that time, you kind of have to
Speaker 1: have Sorry.
Speaker 8: I've read that, I've read the documents. They're I'm very fair.
Speaker 7: Why and the how was Ankleton working so hard with
Speaker 7: Massad to give them the materials then?
Speaker 8: If they already had it now it could be.
Speaker 7: The United States before that just flat out gave them
Speaker 7: a bomb and said here, don't talk about it.
Speaker 8: Well, you could easily see that happening during the Cold War.
Speaker 1: I would say that that's a very good supposition, Jimmy James.
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I'm not making a claim as
Speaker 1: to how they got it before that. I'll tell you
Speaker 1: that they had great espionage and they were able to
Speaker 1: spy on US plenty, and they did very well with
Speaker 1: it almost immediately, you know. But however they got it,
Speaker 1: whether it was handed to him or not, here's the
Speaker 1: relevant point. Kennedy wasn't going to be able to prevent
Speaker 1: them having something they already had.
Speaker 2: Here was my only point about And this is according
Speaker 2: to the Wilson Center. Okay, the US government first learned
Speaker 2: the Visiel secret secret nuclear partment, the motive from an
Speaker 2: American corporate official talking to US diplomats in television.
Speaker 3: During the mid summer of nineteen sixty There you go
Speaker 3: was up and running afore.
Speaker 1: So, but there you go with that facility. And all
Speaker 1: I'm saying is that by the time November twenty second,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three rolls around, if they're killing Kennedy, so
Speaker 1: he doesn't stop them from getting the bomb, it's kind
Speaker 1: of pointless because they already had it. I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: I've had plenty of indicators with this. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody would argue realistically, they already had it. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I don't even speak to exactly how they
Speaker 1: got it, or if it didn't come from multiple sources,
Speaker 1: or if it wasn't that they needed some more materials
Speaker 1: or whatever, and Angleton wanted them to have more materials
Speaker 1: so they could build more bombs or whatever. They already
Speaker 1: had the bomb by then, That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I disagree that they had the bomb, but I in
Speaker 7: no way think that Massade, Israel, the Jews or any
Speaker 7: of them had anything to do with the JFK assassination.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, and I agree with you there.
Speaker 13: Just like Africa, it's like Jim dg Know, like I
Speaker 13: was going to say, I just don't get his Okay,
Speaker 13: He's done a lot of great work, Like I started
Speaker 13: to say, I do appreciate the things that he's done, especially.
Speaker 7: With Oliver Stone as far as you.
Speaker 8: Know, working to get the doctors released, but he I
Speaker 8: don't know what the anyone that goes off of his official.
Speaker 10: Well, that's it.
Speaker 7: I guess he thinks he is the official caretaker of
Speaker 7: the one True Pilgrim Way, and anytime anyone writes a
Speaker 7: book that says anything he doesn't.
Speaker 8: Agree with, he goes off his way to write an
Speaker 8: attack article. It's the same kind of thing as trying
Speaker 8: to protests this conference. That's why when you said someone
Speaker 8: was doing that, as like, well, that's not a hard guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah the way it is, Yeah, fair enough, But it's
Speaker 1: weird to me because you know, again, he's supposed to
Speaker 1: be mister liberal I thought not too long ago, right,
Speaker 1: And if he was, then he wouldn't be out to
Speaker 1: silence people, and he also wouldn't be screaming about the Jews.
Speaker 1: But apparently he has. And you know again, I was
Speaker 1: told that Brent Holland got pretty upset even with one
Speaker 1: of his presentations. And Brent Holland used to be somebody
Speaker 1: who was, you know, plenty friendly with Jim, and other
Speaker 1: people have been plenty friendly with Jim. But I don't
Speaker 1: remember Fetzer and Jim ever getting along. However, here's what's
Speaker 1: interesting is that you know, Fetzer didn't know.
Speaker 3: I thought the Geneo and Fetzer just really didn't like
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, That's what I'm saying is because somebody
Speaker 1: earlier said that, you know that Fetzer and Jim were
Speaker 1: you know, at some point working together. The only common
Speaker 1: link you have here is len o'sanik. Before he had
Speaker 1: Jim Deugenio as his regular go to JFK guy, he
Speaker 1: had Jim Fetzer as his regular go to JFK guy
Speaker 1: back in like two thousand and one, two thousand and two,
Speaker 1: when len was first starting black Op Radio. Fetzer was
Speaker 1: there until he went kind of nuts and started, you know,
Speaker 1: buying into Judy Baker and all these other things, and
Speaker 1: then when kind of backed away I mean for the
Speaker 1: beginning of black Op Review excuse me, black Op Radio,
Speaker 1: but Judy Baker was actually a guest on there at
Speaker 1: one point too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of people to back away from
Speaker 2: Fetcher when he started hugging onto Judy, right, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, because of that and also Judy those two things,
Speaker 1: and then screaming that the Zeppruder film has all been
Speaker 1: fabricated and he knows it's a fake because whatever, and
Speaker 1: you know, and all these things. I mean, I've even
Speaker 1: literally seen him give a presentation where you know, even
Speaker 1: though this is a blurry videotape of the driver looking
Speaker 1: like he might have shot Kennedy, it's still true that
Speaker 1: the driver shot Kennedy. You know, according to jim because
Speaker 1: they removed those frames from the Subbruder film, there's.
Speaker 2: An fyi for Jimmy, apparently that the monal reactor became
Speaker 2: operational in sixty two.
Speaker 3: And they are projecting, and this is from an engineering organization.
Speaker 2: They're saying that by sixty six, Israel had reportedly produced
Speaker 2: his first nuclear weapon.
Speaker 1: But here we go again. They'll be pete. What the
Speaker 1: public is able to see and what the reality is
Speaker 1: may not necessarily comport with one another. Let's never Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, the Friends held them, they helped them build
Speaker 2: the Moona and got them on their nuclear program going.
Speaker 2: So you know, once the thing was operational, they if
Speaker 2: they if Demona was operational in sixty two, they could
Speaker 2: have had a new a warhead by sixty three.
Speaker 1: Right, So there's nothing that Kennedy was gonna do unless
Speaker 1: we were going to go in and bomb Demona, Right,
Speaker 1: I mean even not only.
Speaker 2: That, but you know, they make it sound like, you know,
Speaker 2: Kennedy had, you know, really had issues with Israel and
Speaker 2: this and that, you think about it, even during the
Speaker 2: Sixth Day War because during the US liberty we didn't
Speaker 2: consider Israel and an ally they were an independent nation
Speaker 2: that we didn't really have anything to do with. It
Speaker 2: was after the Sixth Day War when we started working
Speaker 2: together with the Israelis.
Speaker 3: So even at that time, you know, what could Kennedy do.
Speaker 2: That's like telling France they'd have to give up their
Speaker 2: news or telling Great Britain you'll have to give up
Speaker 2: your nukes.
Speaker 3: What are you only country that you know should have?
Speaker 3: The Russia's got them. We can't hear anything about that,
Speaker 3: but you got to give yourself. Israel would have flipped
Speaker 3: them the finger and told them to hit the trail.
Speaker 1: Well either way, I can't see placing any known Massad
Speaker 1: person or anything else. And they try and do this.
Speaker 1: Oh Meyer Lansky was the head of the Jewish Mopian.
Speaker 1: It's the Jewish Tapia along with Massad that killed Kennedy.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you guys are way overreaching, you know,
Speaker 1: But it all started with that Michael Collins Piper character.
Speaker 7: Really, now here's a fascinating thing that I really wish
Speaker 7: Oliver Stone would have put in his film Nixon. I've
Speaker 7: only heard about this in church a long time ago.
Speaker 8: It just so happens.
Speaker 7: You remember his character or his mother's character played by Mary.
Speaker 8: Well Anyways, the lady from Back to the Future. You
Speaker 8: remember her?
Speaker 1: She yeah, Mary Steve Virgin Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8: Boy she did good, Yes she did. You remember how
Speaker 8: they talked even ye, well done shoes, hardcore.
Speaker 1: Quicker, Absolutely true.
Speaker 3: And it's what's.
Speaker 8: Interesting that I heard this from a missionary long time ago,
Speaker 8: fifty years ago.
Speaker 7: He was talking about how once when Nixon's when Nixon
Speaker 7: was a child, his mother came to him and said, Richard,
Speaker 7: the Lord has spoken to me. He has said that someday, somehow.
Speaker 8: You are going to be in a position where you
Speaker 8: are going to be able to help the Jews, and
Speaker 8: you need to help them.
Speaker 3: And that stuck with me.
Speaker 8: And Nixon's why you've heard him speak.
Speaker 7: He called Jews horrible names. Even that crazy Henry Kissinger,
Speaker 7: a so called Jude, was saying, do not help Israel.
Speaker 8: And yet Nixon.
Speaker 7: About back of what his mother had said, and that's
Speaker 7: what I ultimately allowed him to assist his ruin that
Speaker 7: sixth day.
Speaker 3: Ward.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy, because
Speaker 1: I just realized I've had callers holding a long time
Speaker 1: and was not looking at the board because nobody else
Speaker 1: was calling in. So let me get them on and
Speaker 1: your live brand new caller. I'm sorry for the long hold.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind tonight, No worries, It's Danny.
Speaker 3: I'm glad you had a great trip out in Dallas.
Speaker 3: And then I would like to.
Speaker 8: Add on to to VP talking about that Georgia Georgia
Speaker 8: Tech game.
Speaker 5: Do you remember there in the fourth quarter as Georgia
Speaker 5: Tech was was driving, there was still ahead.
Speaker 3: Do you remember that fumble BPTE.
Speaker 5: Oh yes, okay, yes, did you Did you see the
Speaker 5: review on that If you look at the definition of
Speaker 5: targeting that was that was the target. The Georgia Tech player,
Speaker 5: i mean the Georgia player led with his helmet that
Speaker 5: knocked that ball out and it was a no call.
Speaker 3: And then they.
Speaker 2: I've heard some discussions about that because he led with
Speaker 2: his helmet, but he didn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't helmet the.
Speaker 2: Helmet contact, and they I don't know how they couldn't
Speaker 2: call it like speary. You know, they used to call
Speaker 2: it speary when you gave the helmet in somebody's body parts.
Speaker 2: But there were several no calls in that game. They
Speaker 2: pretty much let those guys play. I'm surprised there weren't
Speaker 2: more calls, especially when it came to interference.
Speaker 3: Some of them was just blatant. They monked the guy
Speaker 3: gave him his wallet back before he got off off
Speaker 3: the ground. But they played hard. That was a hard
Speaker 3: funk game. Georgia Tech wanted to upset him so bad, Danny.
Speaker 1: I'm going to bring you back shortly because we got
Speaker 1: another caller. I want to try and get on the air.
Speaker 1: But anybody shocked him. When I was playing pop I
Speaker 1: wander football, I probably got called for spearing, uh more
Speaker 1: often than any other penalty anyway. Yeah, probably he's taking
Speaker 1: some blows to the head. Sure, so uh eight six
Speaker 1: fibe area code you're on? And uh, what's happening? What's
Speaker 1: on your mind?
Speaker 3: All right, Chuck, this is Harlan.
Speaker 1: I might pull over to get my yamaka and tow
Speaker 1: it on, you know, all right? Hey, hey do you
Speaker 1: do you?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 16: Yeah, you know, I'd announce how anti Semitism real imagine
Speaker 16: ramplaid excellent.
Speaker 2: If you were a good Jew, you'd have a yamaka
Speaker 2: on underneath your trucker's cap.
Speaker 1: Oh is that so? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is that the order you have to put that in?
Speaker 12: Now?
Speaker 1: Where is that officially noted? That the trucker's cap must
Speaker 1: go on atop the yamica.
Speaker 3: Well, because you can't put the yamaca on top of
Speaker 3: the trucker's cap. It's just common sense.
Speaker 1: Okay, sorry, I guess it is. I never had to
Speaker 1: deal with the issues. Go ahead.
Speaker 2: It's like if you had a choice between putting on
Speaker 2: a bathing cap and then a football helmet. Would you
Speaker 2: put on a bathing cap and the football helmet or
Speaker 2: would you put on a football helmet and try to
Speaker 2: stretch the bathing.
Speaker 3: Cap over it.
Speaker 1: It depends on what your level of style is. My brother, good,
Speaker 1: go ahead, Harlem.
Speaker 16: It might not be a good idea to be running around,
Speaker 16: you know, for yamica and somebody chunched out so many
Speaker 16: folks we got from the Middle East.
Speaker 1: You know, now there's out here and there.
Speaker 2: Put a propeller on top of it, and they'll think
Speaker 2: it's just a beanie from the fifties.
Speaker 1: Yeah maybe, yeah, true, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 16: But you know, for the records, you know, I'm not Jewish,
Speaker 16: because if it was, I wouldn't met her work, and
Speaker 16: I'd be smart enough. You know, I've done found me
Speaker 16: at griff to just set back to the house.
Speaker 1: Well, sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. Right, no work, isn't
Speaker 1: that the way? That is? Something like that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I got a few points I.
Speaker 16: Want to throw out here, so I can't stay the
Speaker 16: rest of the show.
Speaker 1: I've been over on the two lane.
Speaker 16: But one thing that I want to mention forhy I
Speaker 16: move on.
Speaker 1: To Chris Graves.
Speaker 16: Is Jimmy and you all mentioned something other about the
Speaker 16: shooting from the I've been listening for probably about ten minutes,
Speaker 16: the driver shooting and.
Speaker 3: What Fetcher said and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, Bill Cooper had that video way back when.
Speaker 16: That supposedly you know, showed it. I've actually seen the video.
Speaker 16: It's probably been got ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I got one of those vhss in the mail in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight or eighty nine, Harlan, So I know,
Speaker 1: go ahead, and.
Speaker 16: You know I've got it on good account from somebody
Speaker 16: that knowed him that you know, eventually he had to
Speaker 16: get away from it.
Speaker 1: And you know, Bill even figured that it was bullshit.
Speaker 1: You know, it looked like I was kind of described
Speaker 1: it as the.
Speaker 16: Pink Panther, you know, style of a cartoon armed Maddy
Speaker 16: in there, like somebody was reaching out behind, you know,
Speaker 16: a curtain on a cartoon or something is what it
Speaker 16: looked like to me, and was very fuzzled and very
Speaker 16: shitty on top of that.
Speaker 3: That's just my opinion what I member saying of it,
Speaker 3: you know, but.
Speaker 16: Something I will mentioning real quick and I'll get out
Speaker 16: of the way. Unless you guys got any questions, I'm
Speaker 16: gonna count tho out hear what wanted to know? You know,
Speaker 16: folks that's listening that you know knows Chris Graves that
Speaker 16: used to be here on No Chilly Effect. I had
Speaker 16: a show with Chuck. He had a bad wreck sometime
Speaker 16: ufin the last week. He flipped the car over and
Speaker 16: rolled it a few times, and he's messed up pretty bad.
Speaker 16: So you know, if if anybody out there wants to
Speaker 16: say a prayer for hear him. I'm sure you know,
Speaker 16: he really appreciated. I've not had a change to talk
Speaker 16: to him yet because I just found this out, basically, yes,
Speaker 16: And I've talked to a few people that has talked
Speaker 16: to him. And by the time you know today that
Speaker 16: I kind of got the phone number and everything, it
Speaker 16: was already almost eight o'clock. In most of these hospitals
Speaker 16: used to they didn't either like or would let him
Speaker 16: by Kyle after seven or eight, and he's in Massachusetts,
Speaker 16: so you know he's in the Eastern time though, but
Speaker 16: it sounds like, you know, he is messed up, you know.
Speaker 1: Pretty bad.
Speaker 16: Broke back, pens in his arms, nose messed up. I've
Speaker 16: got a message here that you know, kind of told
Speaker 16: me what.
Speaker 1: Most of it was. Let me see if I can
Speaker 1: go back. Well, Harlan, why don't you do me a
Speaker 1: favor real quick? Why do you do me a favor
Speaker 1: and send me that number? He was trying to get
Speaker 1: in touch with me recently, and I kind of wasn't
Speaker 1: listening to him, but I certainly don't wish him any
Speaker 1: pain or anything. And why don't you email me that
Speaker 1: number so I can call him over the week? Can uh? Okay?
Speaker 16: Because he has lost his phone from what I understand
Speaker 16: that I felt him, but the message here. He's in
Speaker 16: the Boston Medical Center. He's alive, but badly damaged. Brain damage,
Speaker 16: nine crack ribs, screws in his left arm, nose shattered,
Speaker 16: lower back broken, the bones of one of his eye
Speaker 16: sockets has smashed, and he's lost his cell phone. That's
Speaker 16: pretty much you know, I know he's fussing going around
Speaker 16: the curve and lost control and you know, turned it.
Speaker 1: Over from what I understand. What's my to me on
Speaker 1: the phone today. Well, that's a terrible thing, and I
Speaker 1: certainly I hope everybody will say a prayer for him,
Speaker 1: for sure. Definitely. Yeah, I looked.
Speaker 16: I looked over on his Twitter page. It's at Sea
Speaker 16: Graves mask guy. Go down his page a little bit.
Speaker 16: He's got a cash app and a PayPal there.
Speaker 1: But anybody, you know, wants to help him out.
Speaker 16: But I don't know if he'll be able to get it,
Speaker 16: you know, anytime soon, especially if it's uh, if he's
Speaker 16: lost his phone, right until he's able you know, to
Speaker 16: get hold of another phone or another way to get online.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I would I would wait on that. I
Speaker 1: would wait on that because you don't know if somebody
Speaker 1: else got a hold of his phone, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Uh yeah, you know, and sometimes we're automatically
Speaker 1: signed into stuff. So I wouldn't suggest that just yet, Harlan. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe waiting until we get that's what That's what I'm
Speaker 1: That's what I'm.
Speaker 16: Saying, you know, I mean, I wouldn't do it, right now,
Speaker 16: but you know, we find out a little bit more
Speaker 16: in the next week or something other you know, it
Speaker 16: might be you know, nice to help him out, but you.
Speaker 1: Know I've not seen him anything because you know.
Speaker 16: Here again, I'm like you, I hate to send something
Speaker 16: to somebody else is gonna get or he's not gonna
Speaker 16: be able to get back a hope of well.
Speaker 1: Right, like I said, didn't find his fast or whatever. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: like I said, if you can get me that phone number,
Speaker 1: I'll give them a call over the weekend because obviously
Speaker 1: he ain't getting out of the hospital over the weekend.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh, and see if I can get an
Speaker 1: update on it. And if not, you can always update me.
Speaker 1: Let me know what's happening, and I'll be more than
Speaker 1: happy to put out that message when we know it'll
Speaker 1: be secure, you know what I mean.
Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm will try to see what I can find
Speaker 16: out tomorrow evening, and I'll try.
Speaker 1: To make a post on Twitter. Okay, a real harlem.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, just please message me, because I don't
Speaker 1: always see everybody's posts and all that. Just message me
Speaker 1: directly and I'll let people know too.
Speaker 16: Okay, Okay, Well, well I'll send you to stuff over
Speaker 16: Twitter because okay, I might be able to find your email,
Speaker 16: and all.
Speaker 1: Right, whichever way you want to go, if you want
Speaker 1: to send me a direct message on there, I'll take
Speaker 1: it there. You know how to get in touch with me,
Speaker 1: So whichever way you want, Okay, Okay, well up.
Speaker 16: Out there and let you guys go because I need
Speaker 16: to get on down the road and you just got
Speaker 16: about fifteen minutes left, and I'm sure that everybody else
Speaker 16: has got, you know, more to talk about one out,
Speaker 16: no problem.
Speaker 1: But appreciate you giving us that update. I had no
Speaker 1: idea about any of this, so it's the first I'm
Speaker 1: hearing about it. And uh yeah, do do private message
Speaker 1: me the information so we can find out what's going on. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, all right, Harlan. I appreciate you anyway. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to Danny real quick before we
Speaker 1: probably jump back to Jimmy James and let him finish
Speaker 1: out the show because we only got, like you said,
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes left here. But anyway, let's see, Danny.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to cut you off quick, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to get around everybody, So go ahead. If there's
Speaker 1: something else you want to talk about outside of that game,
Speaker 1: or you want to keep talking about that game. It's
Speaker 1: up to you.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, just a couple more comments.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry to hear about anybody Chris getting hurt.
Speaker 3: That's that's He'll be in my prayers.
Speaker 5: About the game after that, after that targeting on that
Speaker 5: drive where Georgia went and scored, there was there was
Speaker 5: a hole, there was an offensive line he had, he
Speaker 5: had the arm of a defender and he basically dragged
Speaker 5: him the ground. I mean, there was some pretty bad
Speaker 5: calls there to get that game to go into overtime.
Speaker 5: But other than that, that was that was a great
Speaker 5: effort by both teams. I'm glad to hear that you
Speaker 5: had a good trip out in Dallas. And you can't
Speaker 5: go wrong when you stay at a Marriott. I've always
Speaker 5: had good experiences every time I stay in the the Marriot.
Speaker 5: But it was that the first time you were in
Speaker 5: the actual sixth floor museum.
Speaker 1: That was the first time I was in the sixth
Speaker 1: floor museum.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I went there probably, Oh my mother in law.
Speaker 5: I was out there for a couple of days, and
Speaker 5: before I went to go, you know, visit her, I
Speaker 5: went there to de Ley Plaza and I went in
Speaker 5: that sixth floor museum. I think it's a nice They
Speaker 5: say it's about a ninety minute virtual and audio tour.
Speaker 3: I spent about three and a half hours. I was
Speaker 3: really really enjoyed myself there.
Speaker 5: Probably spent probably good four or five hours in the
Speaker 5: whole whole area, just just kind of walk them through
Speaker 5: and imagine. I don't have the expertise of the JFK
Speaker 5: assassination as you gentlemen, but I've read a lot of
Speaker 5: books and been very fascinated by the subject.
Speaker 3: Some of the books that I enjoyed. What did you
Speaker 3: think of The Unspeakable? What were your thoughts on that book?
Speaker 1: JFK and the Unspeakable? You know, unfortunately I can't argue
Speaker 1: with the critics. I think it was one of the
Speaker 1: best books written probably in the past twenty years on
Speaker 1: the case. It's interesting. I don't necessarily agree with everything
Speaker 1: that doctor Douglas says in there. He, you know, puts
Speaker 1: a little bit of weight on certain accounts that I
Speaker 1: would not.
Speaker 12: Like.
Speaker 1: In the case of Richard Case Neguel, who I've learned
Speaker 1: quite a bit more about, and uh, I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: see as the same figure I once did you know
Speaker 1: with with certain things coming out, you know, but Dick
Speaker 1: Russell wrote that book The Man Who Knew Too Much
Speaker 1: on him and uh, unfortunately, I think I wish Doctor
Speaker 1: Douglas did not use him so often in the narrative,
Speaker 1: but it's it's one of the best narratives out there
Speaker 1: to introduce somebody to the case and also not bored
Speaker 1: to death somebody who is familiar with a lot so.
Speaker 1: And actually the funny thing is I have something to
Speaker 1: do with the fact that the uh that the audiobook exists,
Speaker 1: because oh yeah, I was complaining to James directly. I
Speaker 1: was calling him up in I think it's Alabama, where
Speaker 1: he lives, and I was complaining to him that not
Speaker 1: only had that first Catholic publishing house printed it kind
Speaker 1: of rough, but also Simon and Schuster printed it and
Speaker 1: their version was hard to read as well. So I'm like, listen,
Speaker 1: if you can at some point when you're done, you know,
Speaker 1: making money, and I want you to make money, can
Speaker 1: you make this you know available through the Talking Books
Speaker 1: for the Blind, please, because this book is very hard
Speaker 1: to read. And the next thing I know is about
Speaker 1: I don't know, six or eight weeks later, I got
Speaker 1: a package in the mail and it was the CDs
Speaker 1: of the book, which James Douglas himself commissioned with his
Speaker 1: original copyright through the Catholic House. That's why it mentions
Speaker 1: the first publisher's name in the audiobook is because he
Speaker 1: personally commissioned it, because Simon and Schuster wasn't necessarily going
Speaker 1: to do it, but he made it happen. And there
Speaker 1: was a little note in there that said thanks for
Speaker 1: being part of making making this a reality.
Speaker 3: So congratulation.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean, you know, but I valued that
Speaker 1: book even when I was straining to read it, just
Speaker 1: so you know. Uh, yeah, so I think it's one
Speaker 1: of the best. Yeah, absolutely, Be Pete, what do you well,
Speaker 1: I was going to get bet Pete's take on it.
Speaker 1: Be Pete. You read JFK in The Unspeakable, right, Yeah, that.
Speaker 3: Was that was Douglas's book, right, yes, Douglas. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm like you. There's a lot of information in there.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: I think it was put together well, it.
Speaker 2: Reads well, but I can't I can't buy some of
Speaker 2: his deductions put that way.
Speaker 1: Well, some things are a little unfortunate, you know, I
Speaker 1: think in good faith he believed certain things that I
Speaker 1: would not necessarily find credible. But overall, uh, it's actually
Speaker 1: way better than a hell of a lot of other
Speaker 1: books out there. I mean, definitely.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good read. I enjoyed reading it.
Speaker 2: It's just like I said, you know, there's some things
Speaker 2: that he latches onto that I really can't put a
Speaker 2: lot of faith in.
Speaker 3: But I mean, but that's every search are out there.
Speaker 2: Everybody's got something that somebody else disagrees with or can't
Speaker 2: agree with, or you know, we'll give him the benefit
Speaker 2: of the doubt, but but really you know.
Speaker 3: Taking his faith.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the way that the legend of Richard case
Speaker 1: Neguell has been built up, and by the way he
Speaker 1: came up during the conference big time. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: there was two different presentations that kind of had to
Speaker 1: do with Richard case Negel. Dick Russell was there, and
Speaker 1: also I think Fred Litwin talked about him. So I
Speaker 1: don't know what to say except that I think over
Speaker 1: the years, I've found that his credibility has gone downhill,
Speaker 1: and I think there's more legend to the Dick Russell
Speaker 1: version of the story than fact. Unfortunately, because certain things
Speaker 1: don't pan out to be true. You know, when they
Speaker 1: they arrested him, he wasn't sitting on the steps of
Speaker 1: the bank, you know, stuff like that to begin with. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot too, but the way it was presented
Speaker 1: at first, it was meant to look like he just shot,
Speaker 1: you know, shot his gun inside the bank and went
Speaker 1: outside and surrendered to the police. Well that's not what
Speaker 1: he did, according to the cops. And I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: always believe the cops version of things, but in this case,
Speaker 1: it's a little hard to kind of put somebody in
Speaker 1: a car if they sat down and just were waiting
Speaker 1: for them to show up.
Speaker 2: Well, just out of curiosity, how much faith do you
Speaker 2: put into Mabel claiming that, you know, Oswald was a
Speaker 2: name that was used throughout the agencies for different things.
Speaker 2: And that's why we ended up hearing so many references
Speaker 2: to Oswald supposedly being in none different places at the
Speaker 2: same time.
Speaker 1: Well, we have different Here's the thing about that. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much of that is really Richard case
Speaker 1: Miguel's claim or if it's stuff, because there is evidence
Speaker 1: that his name was being used in a couple of
Speaker 1: places that have nothing to do with Miguel, so it's
Speaker 1: possible that it was being used in more than one place.
Speaker 2: What do you think about the connection between the name
Speaker 2: Alec Hidell.
Speaker 3: And Oswald using it?
Speaker 2: I didn't there was some I think I remember a
Speaker 2: reference in the original Russell Playboy articles that supposedly Alex
Speaker 2: Hidell was a name that was used and through that
Speaker 2: name you could track down what section was doing that work.
Speaker 2: It was a name that was not common, but everybody
Speaker 2: knew that if that name was used, it was used
Speaker 2: for different things.
Speaker 3: It never could make the connection as to how Oswald
Speaker 3: started using it.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm wondering, is how that I've never been
Speaker 2: able to really get into detail on that.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not sure evidence exists to back that up.
Speaker 1: You know, that's one of those claims. And again, you know,
Speaker 1: Miguel had a bad head injury too, which caused him
Speaker 1: some problems medically, and that's now provable, you know. And
Speaker 1: is it a matter of his memory is kind of
Speaker 1: scrambled because of his head injury. Is it a matter
Speaker 1: of you know, Russell making the story better for consumption?
Speaker 1: Who knows, right? So it's a tough thing anyway, We've
Speaker 1: only got a few minutes left, and I know what
Speaker 1: we ended up going on and on a bit with
Speaker 1: Danny here, but we gave him full answer about JFK
Speaker 1: and the Unspeakable for sure.
Speaker 3: Excellent book. Yeah, it is a good book. I enjoyed it.
Speaker 5: So I've read it twice and saw my shelf, and
Speaker 5: I also listened to it on Amazon, so I've gotten
Speaker 5: three times in it. But I was not expecting to
Speaker 5: have Thomas Merton in there. And I read Thomas Murton's
Speaker 5: Seventh Story Mountain decades ago, right, and I always found
Speaker 5: him a Trappis Monk, is a good spirit writers.
Speaker 3: So absolutely, yeah, the the legitimacy and the you know
Speaker 3: how relevant. I thought it was a good book. I
Speaker 3: enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: No, and I agree with that that's a that's a
Speaker 1: fascinating uh uh you know device that he used there
Speaker 1: to begin, because the book begins with with the Thomas
Speaker 1: Merton thing, uh and it is essential to framing things.
Speaker 1: And I like it. And I only disagree that Kennedy
Speaker 1: was not turning toward peace. It wasn't some new thing
Speaker 1: that he was getting into. I think that he always
Speaker 1: had a slightly different view on foreign policy that wasn't necessarily,
Speaker 1: you know, the dove. I don't think it was ever
Speaker 1: that he was a dove, but he wasn't a warhawk either.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: So to me, he didn't turn away and turned toward peace.
Speaker 1: I think he always had ideas that lent themselves to
Speaker 1: that to begin with. So there's the only disagreement I
Speaker 1: have with his narrative. But I love the fact that
Speaker 1: he framed it with Merton. Sorry, good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, no, no, no.
Speaker 5: What I got to my understanding is I believe James
Speaker 5: Douglas and I understand his thought process. I think he
Speaker 5: comes out of what's called the Catholic Worker movement, which
Speaker 5: is a piece piece group like in Pacts Christie and
Speaker 5: the same with Thomas Merton.
Speaker 1: Absolutely he lives in a Catholic.
Speaker 3: Up be John Kennedy.
Speaker 5: In the first Catholic president, I think there was a
Speaker 5: lot of whisper thinking that they were going to kind
Speaker 5: of like change the foreign policy to more of a
Speaker 5: peace instead of a cold war.
Speaker 3: Yes policy, that's just that's I think what was being
Speaker 3: inserted there.
Speaker 1: Well, absolutely true, And James Douglas is a guy who,
Speaker 1: you know, not only was part of the Catholic worker thing,
Speaker 1: he lives in a Catholic workerhouse, I think to this day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's today.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm very familiar, like I kind of lean politics,
Speaker 5: but that makes sense.
Speaker 1: There you go. And literally Douglas is a guy who literally,
Speaker 1: you know, through his body in front of uh you know,
Speaker 1: nuclear nukes being transferred, uh, you know, and things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a whole history to Douglas. You might
Speaker 1: want to look into uh some more too. Yeah, yeah, uh, which,
Speaker 1: thank you. I appreciate that. Absolutely questions absolutely so, Danny,
Speaker 1: thanks for calling in, and of course thanks to Harlan,
Speaker 1: but also Jimmy James. Gonna try and squeeze in a
Speaker 1: final word with you here. Uh, what do you want
Speaker 1: to drop in before we're all done?
Speaker 8: Well, Jim Douglas, this book was be it book before
Speaker 8: Jim Mars's Crossfire.
Speaker 1: M Well, Crossfire came out way before JFK and The Unspeakable.
Speaker 1: Though Crossfire was a huge thing. It was part of
Speaker 1: what the JFK movie was.
Speaker 8: Oh that's true. Yeah, yeah, Douglas late dankies well none
Speaker 8: the last.
Speaker 7: Somehow in the early two thousands, all of the sudden,
Speaker 7: I just started seeing that guy everywhere with that book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jim Mars, though, to be fair, Jim Mars that
Speaker 1: Crossfire was available to be optioned for the JFK movie,
Speaker 1: and Jim Douglas's book didn't come out until what two
Speaker 1: thousand and eight? Maybe? No, no, no, no late Uh no,
Speaker 1: I know it's not the late nineties, because again, like
Speaker 1: I said, I was, I was talking to Jim Douglas personally.
Speaker 1: Let me see when it came out exactly, b Pete,
Speaker 1: anything you want to add here?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I was running out of time here quickly.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say gold, we'd get another weekend
Speaker 3: and looking forward to doing it next week.
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, and me too, And I just want to
Speaker 1: get this through.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: Let me see when this book was released, because I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, I know factually it didn't come out until
Speaker 1: two thousand and something.
Speaker 7: Let's see, what was the big book in the late
Speaker 7: nineties where they talk about the JFK's body being monkeyed
Speaker 7: with them the plane, well, in.
Speaker 1: The nineteen eighties, Best Evidence, Best Evidence in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 3: No book came out was published in two thousand and eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have the and then again it was republished
Speaker 1: by Simon and Schuster in twenty ten. But the thing is, no,
Speaker 1: you're thinking about his body being monkeyed with. That's best evidence.
Speaker 1: That's David Lifton's book.
Speaker 7: Okay, it's the best step of it's that's the book
Speaker 7: that was so huge in the late nineties.
Speaker 1: It was huge, Yeah, but it came out in the eighties,
Speaker 1: but it remained huge for a long time.
Speaker 3: Best where I found my copy of that book.
Speaker 2: I was getting discharged from the army in two thousand
Speaker 2: and what was this two.
Speaker 3: Thousand and three, now two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Okay, I had to wait a week for my
Speaker 2: records to catch up with me coming over from Germany.
Speaker 3: I was in the South Carolina.
Speaker 2: Fort Jackson is where I got out, So I was
Speaker 2: getting demal work stuff done for.
Speaker 3: That week, and it happened to be sitting on a
Speaker 3: book shelf. Oh when was it? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I picked it up to read it and ended up
Speaker 2: taking it with me on the plane home. And that
Speaker 2: was the first time I'd come into contact with distant stuff.
Speaker 1: Well fair enough, but unfortunately we're over at a time,
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