WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.000 --> 00:00:17.320 December sixth, twenty twenty four, allegedly according to that thing 2 00:00:17.320 --> 00:00:21.000 we call a calendar, This the O'Kelly effect. You they 3 00:00:21.000 --> 00:00:23.399 are listening to us live. If you're hearing us just 4 00:00:23.480 --> 00:00:26.879 after eight pm Eastern on a Friarsday Friday, it is 5 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:30.440 and it's the open mic night on the Ocelli effect. 6 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:34.560 So guess what that means? You can join in my coast, 7 00:00:34.640 --> 00:00:37.920 be Pete myself. We're here on every Friday night, and 8 00:00:38.079 --> 00:00:40.560 we're discussing whether we should open up the phone lines. 9 00:00:40.640 --> 00:00:44.399 I don't know, every Friday, how about that every friday 10 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.359 we have done that? But how about some other days? 11 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:52.320 How about every night? What do you guys think? I 12 00:00:52.399 --> 00:00:54.679 want to know, Bpete was running this by me, that 13 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:56.479 you'd be willing to do more than one night a 14 00:00:56.479 --> 00:00:58.920 week with me. Plus I could just run the phone 15 00:00:58.960 --> 00:01:01.399 lines open, not if they're gonna give me the same 16 00:01:01.399 --> 00:01:04.879 trouble they gave me tonight. But we are trying the 17 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.359 phone lines in a slightly different configuration, so you know, 18 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.799 hopefully they're they're gonna work as well. We shall soon 19 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:16.439 see it looks like. But hey, join us three one nine, 20 00:01:16.480 --> 00:01:20.560 five two seven five zero one six. That's three, one nine, 21 00:01:20.599 --> 00:01:24.599 five two seven, five zero one six. Now we are 22 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:26.879 in an age when the news could be interesting. We 23 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:29.319 could talk about things that happened this week. You probably 24 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:31.000 didn't get a chance to listen to most of the 25 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:34.239 podcasts from the week. I put out two of them today. 26 00:01:34.280 --> 00:01:37.560 I think I was a little delayed, but you know, 27 00:01:37.799 --> 00:01:41.519 still broadcasting every night, and uh hey, I'm done with 28 00:01:41.640 --> 00:01:46.400 updates on Lancer for now, although I had a meeting 29 00:01:46.560 --> 00:01:50.159 and maybe I'll be discussing that in coming weeks because 30 00:01:50.159 --> 00:01:53.280 I have been formally invited back and there might be 31 00:01:53.319 --> 00:01:55.879 some other news coming out of that where I might 32 00:01:55.920 --> 00:01:59.120 be a formal part of the organization at some point here. 33 00:01:59.680 --> 00:02:05.120 But we shall soon see. Anyway, like I said, BPTE 34 00:02:05.200 --> 00:02:07.480 is with me, we could discuss the news. We are 35 00:02:07.519 --> 00:02:10.240 in the age of the doggie or doge coin, whatever 36 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:13.199 it is you want to call it. There it is right, 37 00:02:13.599 --> 00:02:16.960 Rami Swami and Elon Musk working together. They're going to 38 00:02:17.000 --> 00:02:19.520 be all about the financial future. Plenty of picks to 39 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.960 talk about in the Trump cabinet if you want to 40 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:24.479 do that. If not, we could talk about, Oh, I 41 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:28.479 don't know whoever it is that killed the health care 42 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:32.240 executive there in New York. That looks like a story 43 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:34.080 that the media is not going to be all that 44 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:36.240 happy to tell when they actually have to get down 45 00:02:36.280 --> 00:02:42.000 to it, especially if they're marking bullets with messages. And gee, 46 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:44.120 would it be a wonder if somebody who is running 47 00:02:44.159 --> 00:02:47.280 one of those healthcare organizations is getting killed by somebody 48 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:50.280 who might be disgruntled? Would it be a wonder at all? 49 00:02:51.120 --> 00:02:55.479 Probably not. Social media pretty nasty about it. Anyway, There's 50 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:58.360 all that happening, and we are in the age of 51 00:02:58.439 --> 00:03:02.960 great ideas with the wrong reasons. So why not let's 52 00:03:02.960 --> 00:03:06.240 see how it all goes. And it's all about your 53 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:09.759 opinions once again. Three one nine, five two seven five 54 00:03:09.879 --> 00:03:13.240 zero one six, whatever's on your mind, call in and 55 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.159 it'll be part of the conversation. And if not, I'll 56 00:03:16.159 --> 00:03:18.719 just sit here and talk to b Pete. Be Pete. 57 00:03:18.759 --> 00:03:19.759 How you doing this week? 58 00:03:19.800 --> 00:03:23.759 Man, Well, we're doing pretty good. But we've been freezing 59 00:03:23.759 --> 00:03:26.000 our butts off past three days. Supposed to get down 60 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:30.599 into about twenty degrees tonight, so it's usually our end 61 00:03:30.599 --> 00:03:31.479 of January weather. 62 00:03:31.520 --> 00:03:33.280 We're getting two months early. 63 00:03:33.719 --> 00:03:36.000 But other than that, I do want to take a 64 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:39.319 moment to talk about last week when we left. Yeah, 65 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:42.319 I had been throwing football scores for the Georgia Tech 66 00:03:42.319 --> 00:03:44.680 George game in the room and it was in the 67 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:49.840 fourth quarter. Georgia Tech was up twenty to six. Well 68 00:03:50.879 --> 00:03:54.479 Georgia who did not want the upset because the playoffs 69 00:03:54.479 --> 00:03:59.759 are getting ready to start for the championship. They came 70 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:04.000 back and we're able to tie the game six over 71 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:09.719 times later, Georgia finally won forty four to forty two, 72 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:15.280 six one times six overtime. The records eight, but this 73 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:17.839 one went six. And the way they do it in 74 00:04:17.879 --> 00:04:21.879 the college format now, they have a time limit, so 75 00:04:22.319 --> 00:04:25.879 during that time both of them scored a touchdown, time 76 00:04:25.959 --> 00:04:29.319 ran out. They went to the second overtime, both of 77 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:35.040 them scored six points. That overtime ran out. Then they 78 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:38.959 go to what's called I guess quick overtime. 79 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:41.240 They put the ball on the five yard. 80 00:04:41.040 --> 00:04:43.000 Line like you're trying to make a two point conversion 81 00:04:43.040 --> 00:04:47.199 after a touchdown, and give four downs to score. Once 82 00:04:47.759 --> 00:04:51.959 the first team attempts. If they score, the other team 83 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:55.839 they turn right around same five yard time they get 84 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:56.439 their chance. 85 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:58.879 It's almost like a sudden death It's almost like a 86 00:04:58.920 --> 00:05:01.079 sudden death kickoff in soccer. Good. 87 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:07.600 Yeah, yeah, but so they score, then you have another overtime, 88 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:11.560 and so you're only getting two points per per score 89 00:05:11.839 --> 00:05:12.240 once you. 90 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:14.879 Get into the sudden death as you want to call it. 91 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.480 Okay, they went four of those, and finally Georgia Tech 92 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.079 came out on top one of the best games of 93 00:05:22.199 --> 00:05:25.720 the year. And it just amazed me that they were 94 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:28.639 that far into the fourth quarter, Georgia Tech up by 95 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.199 fourteen points and it ends up being a forty four 96 00:05:31.240 --> 00:05:32.639 to forty two win for Georgia. 97 00:05:32.759 --> 00:05:34.720 It was amazing. Glad to see it. 98 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:37.639 Okay, well, you know, I'm not into college ball. I 99 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:41.279 never understood the fascination with college sports. People have tried 100 00:05:41.279 --> 00:05:42.920 to explain it to me over the years. They root 101 00:05:42.959 --> 00:05:45.279 for this or that. I mean, you know, sometimes they 102 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:48.120 root for the colleges they went to or whatever. But 103 00:05:48.759 --> 00:05:51.800 most times people have just arbitrarily picked a college at 104 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:54.279 some point and they just sort of root for their 105 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:59.519 teams whatever in basketball, in football, and I just kind 106 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.040 of go, I don't know, I can't get into it 107 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:05.079 these college games. I don't know, you know, I mean 108 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:08.399 I got into professional sports a little bit, but I 109 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:11.079 don't know. The college thing is just it never never 110 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:11.439 got me. 111 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.879 That's amazing the amount of money that it generates. 112 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:17.639 This area. 113 00:06:17.720 --> 00:06:17.920 Here. 114 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:19.199 When you were living here, you're. 115 00:06:19.079 --> 00:06:20.759 In the middle of the agenc C in the Atlantic 116 00:06:20.759 --> 00:06:23.160 Coast Conference, and they had a long history, especially when 117 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:24.079 it comes to basketball. 118 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:26.079 Usually when you move here. 119 00:06:26.000 --> 00:06:28.079 That one of the first questions people are asking, well, 120 00:06:28.079 --> 00:06:29.800 do you pull for State or Carolina? 121 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:31.639 I mean, that's what it comes down to. 122 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:34.519 Yeah, it's a big basketball thing, right right. 123 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:35.839 Yeah, huge basketball thing. 124 00:06:35.920 --> 00:06:39.959 Unfortunately, I'm a Duke fan, so it doesn't fit into 125 00:06:40.000 --> 00:06:44.680 that dedication very well. But years ago is a huge 126 00:06:44.680 --> 00:06:47.839 state here. It's got a long tradition in the history. 127 00:06:48.079 --> 00:06:48.360 Right. 128 00:06:49.519 --> 00:06:52.120 They expanded the ACC a few years ago. We've got 129 00:06:52.199 --> 00:06:56.519 Notre Dame and other teams for football. Not all of 130 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:59.120 the teams that are in the conference for football are 131 00:06:59.160 --> 00:07:01.199 in the basketball conference. 132 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:05.439 So okay, it's conferences. The past two years have been crazy. 133 00:07:05.480 --> 00:07:07.800 People have been leaving this conference, going to the Big 134 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:09.959 Ten Conference, going to the Big twelve Conference. 135 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:13.560 They talk about even disbanding possibly. 136 00:07:13.160 --> 00:07:15.199 The ACC and all of the teams going to the 137 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:16.160 Southeast Conference. 138 00:07:16.199 --> 00:07:18.680 So it's just a huge missmash. 139 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:21.120 But it's amazing amount of money that it generates and 140 00:07:21.160 --> 00:07:24.319 it's amazing that the fan base that it has for 141 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:27.360 for college football. You know, they're basically the breeding ground 142 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:28.040 for the NFL. 143 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:32.079 Fair enough, But I just I remember being, you know, 144 00:07:32.240 --> 00:07:34.319 coming out of high school, like my last years of 145 00:07:34.399 --> 00:07:36.959 high school, and I had, you know, young adult friends. 146 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:38.920 All of a sudden, I had friends who were telling 147 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.680 me they were like Duke fans for basketball and in 148 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:46.360 the nineties, and I'm going, what, what, who did you 149 00:07:46.399 --> 00:07:49.399 even know where Duke is? You know, these guys in 150 00:07:49.480 --> 00:07:52.000 Jersey and all of a sudden they're Duke fans and whatever. 151 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:55.519 Some people get into it because it's their home state 152 00:07:55.720 --> 00:07:58.439 or whatever, and I go, Okay, I guess, you know, 153 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.240 you root for your locals and what not. But I 154 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.759 didn't give a crap about what Seaton Hall was doing. 155 00:08:03.839 --> 00:08:06.959 Really, you know what I'm saying that, I'll be honest, 156 00:08:07.000 --> 00:08:10.680 you know, I would much rather watch college basketball than 157 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:11.480 the NBA. 158 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:15.000 I just I don't find the NBA very entertaining. Run 159 00:08:15.040 --> 00:08:16.079 and dump, run and dunk. 160 00:08:16.360 --> 00:08:19.399 You know, lives guys now all over seven foot, they 161 00:08:19.439 --> 00:08:22.199 haven't raised the basket, so it's just a run and 162 00:08:22.279 --> 00:08:22.759 dunk show. 163 00:08:22.839 --> 00:08:25.920 But college basketball, there have been. 164 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:28.560 Some pretty exciting games and like I said, ACC's got 165 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.879 a long history of good rival he's going on. But 166 00:08:32.799 --> 00:08:34.799 I've just never been able to get into the NBA. 167 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.279 But in the nineteen seventies, I thought, you know, they 168 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:40.080 put basketball games on. In the seventies and early eighties, 169 00:08:40.080 --> 00:08:43.120 it was like, oh, great basketball games. Well ESPN's got 170 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:47.519 to run something, right, that was it. I enjoyed watching 171 00:08:47.559 --> 00:08:50.480 hockey on TV. I enjoyed watching baseball on TV. I 172 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:54.440 could never watch basketball. Football is fun, you know, But 173 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:56.759 I don't know the college games for some reason, I 174 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.919 just could never get into them. It just wasn't a thing. 175 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:04.039 And you know, we had what we had. Princeton's got teams. 176 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.840 I'm sure you know in Jersey I'm thinking here. I 177 00:09:06.879 --> 00:09:08.960 know Seaton Hall is a big deal for some people. 178 00:09:09.000 --> 00:09:10.840 The Pirates, they were a big deal, the Seat and 179 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.159 all Pirates. I don't know how well they do or not, 180 00:09:13.240 --> 00:09:14.000 because I don't care. 181 00:09:14.159 --> 00:09:16.440 Yeah, you know, it's got a pretty good following. 182 00:09:16.639 --> 00:09:20.480 Rutgers there you go, there's another one, Rutgers, Princeton. These 183 00:09:20.519 --> 00:09:23.840 are the big schools there, right. And I was aware that, 184 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:27.519 like say, Mama's College, I think had had a basketball team, 185 00:09:27.519 --> 00:09:28.960 But I don't know if they were, you know, any 186 00:09:29.000 --> 00:09:32.200 big deal in the national whatever, you know, because there's 187 00:09:32.240 --> 00:09:35.080 lots of colleges out there that have teams that don't 188 00:09:35.080 --> 00:09:41.399 get televised, right, I mean smaller colleges, right, Yeah, the. 189 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:43.840 Big money goes to the big Well, that's like I'll 190 00:09:43.879 --> 00:09:47.639 give you an example. Notre Dame joined the ACC for 191 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:51.200 football all a few years back when they expanded the conference. 192 00:09:52.080 --> 00:09:55.799 But they don't share They have an exclusive contract I 193 00:09:55.840 --> 00:09:59.960 believe it was it's with NBC to air their football game. 194 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:03.200 So they don't share any of that TV money that 195 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:05.159 they're getting with anybody in the conference. 196 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.399 And that was one of the conventions of them joining 197 00:10:07.840 --> 00:10:10.919 that they had to give up some TV money and 198 00:10:11.039 --> 00:10:11.720 Notre Dame. 199 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.840 Basically said, we worked this contractor that a long time ago. 200 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:16.360 I don't think we'll be discussing that. 201 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:19.480 So there's been some issues about wanting to, you know, 202 00:10:19.519 --> 00:10:20.919 basically tell them put up or leave. 203 00:10:21.120 --> 00:10:22.360 They'll find another conference. 204 00:10:23.480 --> 00:10:25.320 Being in a conference helps you when it comes to 205 00:10:25.399 --> 00:10:31.360 scheduling and things of that nature, share share money and things. 206 00:10:31.399 --> 00:10:32.799 But you know, Notre. 207 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.559 Dame has been well established when it comes to football. 208 00:10:36.120 --> 00:10:38.399 They don't need to be in a conference except to 209 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.000 be able to find teams to play. 210 00:10:40.480 --> 00:10:43.720 Yeah. See Notre Dame is one of those legendary college 211 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:47.440 things for some reason or other, right, I guess because 212 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:50.679 they had they had some of the original best players 213 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:54.879 or whatever, or best coaches. I don't know, but it's 214 00:10:54.919 --> 00:10:58.360 weird to me because again, there were other smaller colleges 215 00:10:58.440 --> 00:11:00.840 and like there's a Red Man and the Orange Men 216 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:04.000 up in the Northeast. I guess that we're at each 217 00:11:04.039 --> 00:11:05.799 other for a bit, and there was a bit of 218 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:09.559 a rivalry regarding a certain I mean, New York's got 219 00:11:09.559 --> 00:11:11.159 a whole bunch of different colleges. 220 00:11:11.720 --> 00:11:15.840 Oh yeah, Syracuse is they're a strong pool. Then their contender. 221 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:19.080 They're usually up there. They usually do well, They've had 222 00:11:19.080 --> 00:11:21.960 a lot of winning seasons. Syracus always tough team to beat. 223 00:11:22.279 --> 00:11:24.720 See now, if we did a call in sports show, guys, 224 00:11:25.159 --> 00:11:27.679 I would definitely have to do that one with VPTE, right, 225 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.879 because I mean, unless it's boxing or baseball, you're probably 226 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:32.120 not going to get much out of me. I mean, 227 00:11:32.120 --> 00:11:34.759 I would do research if we were doing shows on it, 228 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.519 I'd start keeping track of stuff. To be honest with you, 229 00:11:38.120 --> 00:11:40.840 I'm willing to change with what the audience wants. If 230 00:11:40.879 --> 00:11:45.200 you guys want an alternative version of you know, something 231 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:47.279 like that, let us know. You want a sports show, 232 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:51.360 That's what we'll do. If you want to talk you know, look, 233 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:55.200 I'm sick of politics. Let's talk about anything. You know, 234 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:59.799 I don't know certain kind of business. Cryptocurrency is the 235 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:01.519 only thing I'm not going to do a show on. 236 00:12:01.960 --> 00:12:04.679 I gotta be honest with you because I can't stand 237 00:12:04.679 --> 00:12:06.799 to even attempt to keep up with it and all 238 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:10.399 the madness and all the weird little, uh you know 239 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:13.000 things that are going on. People are trying to drag 240 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:17.320 me into Skype groups for cryptocurrencies. Now, uh, these big groups, 241 00:12:17.360 --> 00:12:19.080 you know, get in on this thing and get in 242 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.559 on that thing. It's the new wave of whatever. And 243 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.000 we're gonna get you some bitcoin, and we're gonna get 244 00:12:24.000 --> 00:12:27.399 you some of this and all these weird scams. I mean, 245 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.600 there's a lot of weird stuff going on between them 246 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:32.600 and the virtual hookers on Skype. I mean, I'm getting 247 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.639 constant contacts, most of them ailed. 248 00:12:36.000 --> 00:12:39.240 The day after last week's show, Saturday morning, some guys 249 00:12:39.240 --> 00:12:43.240 started sending me a request to join some big coin thing. 250 00:12:43.279 --> 00:12:44.360 I finally had to block it. 251 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:47.080 Who it was right, it's like ooh, all of a sudden, 252 00:12:47.159 --> 00:12:49.120 my photos started going off, and it's like, who is 253 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:49.840 this clown? 254 00:12:50.200 --> 00:12:53.039 Yeah? Right, and it's somebody you don't even know dragging 255 00:12:53.080 --> 00:12:55.759 you into somewhere. You know, somehow your contact got shared. 256 00:12:56.360 --> 00:12:58.080 And it's like I told. 257 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:00.519 You, I think we've discussed it last week. That's bitcoin 258 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:03.759 is something I just do not understand. I don't understand 259 00:13:03.759 --> 00:13:06.919 the value of it, how it gets its value. 260 00:13:07.759 --> 00:13:09.120 I did hear something. 261 00:13:08.799 --> 00:13:13.159 Though, the other day, the guy that spent you know, 262 00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:16.080 when the first bitcoin was spent, it was bought to 263 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:18.679 buy two Papa John's pizzas. 264 00:13:19.240 --> 00:13:21.159 Okay, so the value of. 265 00:13:21.080 --> 00:13:25.440 It was like twenty bucks or whatever it was. They 266 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:28.759 took the value of it then the first coin, and 267 00:13:29.000 --> 00:13:32.200 it would have been if you use today's valuation. 268 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:35.039 And I don't know, it wasn't just one bitcoin, but 269 00:13:35.200 --> 00:13:35.519 I mean. 270 00:13:35.480 --> 00:13:38.600 Whatever the purchase was, and today's valuation was a billion 271 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:40.559 dollars for those two Papa Job pizzas. 272 00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:44.759 Yeah, because here's what happened. Here's the astronomical thing. You 273 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:46.799 can go ahead and do an internet search and find 274 00:13:46.840 --> 00:13:50.519 out what a single whole bitcoin is worth today, Like, 275 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:53.320 go ahead and do that, right, and I'm going to 276 00:13:53.399 --> 00:13:56.600 tell you what I was offered these bitcoin at I 277 00:13:56.720 --> 00:14:01.200 was offered them for eighty dollars a piece and didn't 278 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:03.799 think that there would be any reason for me to 279 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:05.559 take them, because there were a lot of things that 280 00:14:05.600 --> 00:14:09.440 people offered me over the years. Honestly, look get in 281 00:14:09.559 --> 00:14:12.600 on this because you're gonna make lots of money now. 282 00:14:12.639 --> 00:14:14.279 The only thing that would have been true that I 283 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.799 thought was a good idea but couldn't afford was gold. 284 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.240 I wanted gold coins. I could just never afford them, 285 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:22.879 so I bought silver. And silver's gone up a little, 286 00:14:22.919 --> 00:14:26.960 down a little, you know, et cetera, et cetera, But yeah, gold. 287 00:14:27.240 --> 00:14:31.399 I remember the bitcoins eighty bucks apiece, and. 288 00:14:31.519 --> 00:14:36.399 See that was the official award now worth ninety seven thousand, 289 00:14:36.519 --> 00:14:39.480 four hundred and thirty five dollars and sixty four cents. 290 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:41.559 Yeah, so think about that. If I had been able 291 00:14:41.600 --> 00:14:46.639 to buy too bitcoin okay, just too back then for 292 00:14:46.720 --> 00:14:49.519 one hundred and sixty bucks and hang on to them. 293 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:52.080 You know, the trouble is, would I have held on 294 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:54.320 to them through the crashes and the booms and the bus. 295 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.360 Would I have done that? Probably not? But if somehow 296 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:00.879 I had been able to buy just two bitcoin and 297 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:04.120 hang on to them, right, I'd have one hundred and 298 00:15:04.159 --> 00:15:05.840 ninety thousand dollars today. 299 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:10.200 Right, pretty good, pretty good turnover. 300 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:15.600 Yeah. Well, you know, for the the price back then 301 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:20.120 of say, you know, probably going out to dinner twice, 302 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:25.480 I could have bought a house right back. Yeah. So 303 00:15:25.600 --> 00:15:29.360 I mean it's crazy house too. Yeah. So I mean 304 00:15:29.559 --> 00:15:31.960 just saying, you know, a nice house in most places. 305 00:15:32.039 --> 00:15:33.759 You know, if I tried to buy one in Jersey 306 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.759 back back then I was living in Jersey, I could 307 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:38.639 buy part of a house in Jersey for one hundred 308 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:42.840 and ninety thousand dollars, but not a whole house. Oh, 309 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:44.759 I just saw Jimmy James on the line and then 310 00:15:44.759 --> 00:15:48.399 he disappeared. So do call in and stick with us 311 00:15:48.440 --> 00:15:51.000 if you can, and uh, and I will get you 312 00:15:51.080 --> 00:15:53.240 on now. I don't know. I was having trouble dialing 313 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:56.080 into my own phone lines, but I was able to 314 00:15:56.200 --> 00:16:00.279 with an auxiliary phone and with the computer. So you 315 00:16:00.320 --> 00:16:02.759 can get on the line at three one nine five 316 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.600 two seven five zero one six. But bitcoin, we would 317 00:16:06.600 --> 00:16:08.559 have to bring on an expert, and I'd be willing 318 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.399 to do that too. Let's bring on an expert to 319 00:16:11.440 --> 00:16:14.039 talk about bitcoin, explain it to us a little better. 320 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.360 I mean I learned a few things recently. Remember I 321 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.240 started talking to you about it. That's how you said 322 00:16:20.080 --> 00:16:21.960 at that time. Look, I don't understand it, and I 323 00:16:21.960 --> 00:16:25.879 don't know why it's worth anything. Uh, it is into 324 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:28.440 my mind, you know, just like anything else. Though. It's 325 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:31.919 the faith put into it by the people using it. 326 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:34.960 I mean literally, that's why a dollar is worth what 327 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.320 somebody says the dollar is worth what it is, right, you. 328 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:41.639 Know, I'd be curious to know what the current when 329 00:16:41.639 --> 00:16:45.639 I say market, you know, actually how much is being 330 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:50.879 spent on goods versus trading back and forth, you know, 331 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:52.480 playing the price jol. 332 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.399 I'd be really curious to know actually how much bitcoin 333 00:16:56.519 --> 00:16:58.879 is spent on things each year. 334 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.759 Well. See, that's a weird thing because because of it's 335 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.400 the nature of it, it's hard to track like that 336 00:17:07.079 --> 00:17:09.920 because it's you know, supposed to be anonymous purchases, so 337 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:12.000 you don't know exactly where it's going. But they use 338 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:15.519 it on the dark web, you know, and people do. 339 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:19.119 There are some websites that accept bitcoin. There are people 340 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:23.000 that take donations in bitcoin. As a matter of fact, 341 00:17:23.000 --> 00:17:25.000 in the past month, I had two people ask me 342 00:17:25.240 --> 00:17:29.079 if I would take donations in bitcoin. I told them 343 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:30.759 if they could figure out how to give it to 344 00:17:30.799 --> 00:17:35.359 me without me having to go through some rigormarole. You know, sure, 345 00:17:35.519 --> 00:17:37.039 I guess I'll take it, but I don't know what 346 00:17:37.079 --> 00:17:40.240 to do with it, you know what I mean, Like, 347 00:17:40.279 --> 00:17:42.680 I don't know how to use it even or where 348 00:17:42.680 --> 00:17:45.920 to use it. But I would certainly, you know, wouldn't 349 00:17:45.920 --> 00:17:48.640 mind it if somebody wants to give me some, you. 350 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:49.880 Know, I guess. 351 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:53.039 The thing is, if you don't have a lot, then 352 00:17:53.960 --> 00:17:57.480 you watch the market. When the price is up, you 353 00:17:57.559 --> 00:18:00.680 go ahead and sell it, take your money, walk away, 354 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:05.640 or go buy more bitcoin from somebody who's you know, 355 00:18:05.759 --> 00:18:09.440 take advantage of the price being low. They're one of 356 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:11.240 the things I looked at just a second ago, said that, 357 00:18:11.279 --> 00:18:13.279 you know, in the past twenty four hours has dropped 358 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:16.680 quite zero point one four percent or something, you know, 359 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:20.759 and then it fluctuates so much that I bet that's 360 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:23.640 a hard market to follow and no win to Okay, 361 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:27.680 it's at its lowest, it's gonna be let's buy or is. 362 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:29.480 I don't think it's going to get much higher. It's 363 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:31.599 probably gonna die for a couple of days. Let's go 364 00:18:31.599 --> 00:18:32.480 ahead and sell. 365 00:18:32.880 --> 00:18:34.079 That would drive me nuts. 366 00:18:34.240 --> 00:18:36.119 Well, one guy I knew just kind of on the 367 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:39.000 internet in another country, and I won't identify who he is, 368 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:41.920 but who was a listener of mine for a while 369 00:18:41.960 --> 00:18:46.200 but doesn't listen anymore. You know, he turned around and 370 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:50.480 forgot that he bought a couple of bitcoin many years ago, 371 00:18:50.759 --> 00:18:55.359 and then about say four years ago, he decided to 372 00:18:55.480 --> 00:18:58.119 cash them in and see what he could get for them. 373 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:01.440 And he got something like fifty grand for his two 374 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:04.480 coins that he paid something like three hundred dollars for 375 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:08.359 And I was just like, wow, that's a that's a 376 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.440 great score. Now, it so happened that I was talking 377 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:13.319 to him at the time about, you know, making a 378 00:19:13.400 --> 00:19:16.079 donation to me because I needed help with something in particular. 379 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:19.240 And it was actually during a time when I had 380 00:19:19.359 --> 00:19:22.559 a tooth goo bad be pete, and this guy helped 381 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.680 me out. Now that's happened more than once, but this 382 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:30.519 was like four or five years ago when this happened, 383 00:19:30.599 --> 00:19:33.200 and the guy had had you know, fifty grand. But 384 00:19:33.359 --> 00:19:35.759 as you just said, now, you know, his two bitcoins 385 00:19:35.759 --> 00:19:37.279 and be worth one hundred and ninety if he held 386 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.519 onto him. So I think, what he did is something 387 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:45.000 like cashed in one and kept the other, but you know, 388 00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.720 and picked up like say twenty five thousand and helped 389 00:19:47.720 --> 00:19:49.559 me out with a couple of hundred to get my 390 00:19:49.599 --> 00:19:54.279 tooth out, is what he did. But I was like, wow, 391 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:56.720 that's like, that's a great thing that you forgot that 392 00:19:56.799 --> 00:20:00.440 you bought bitcoin, you know, fifteen years ago. 393 00:20:00.640 --> 00:20:03.400 In fact, that was a storyline in one of the 394 00:20:03.400 --> 00:20:07.200 episodes on The Big Bang Theory. Apparently when bitcoin first 395 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.839 came out, you know, the nerds get together start doing. 396 00:20:09.680 --> 00:20:11.400 Some mining and they find some. 397 00:20:12.039 --> 00:20:15.720 And Seldon gets kicked off at him because of a 398 00:20:15.759 --> 00:20:18.160 current project they're working on to leave them out, and 399 00:20:18.279 --> 00:20:21.359 apparently he went, you know, sometime back when they. 400 00:20:21.200 --> 00:20:23.920 Forgot they had the bitcoin, he took it, moved it 401 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:27.319 to a thumb drive, and it was on Leonard's key ring. 402 00:20:28.119 --> 00:20:30.839 Leonard looks at him and goes, I lost those keys, 403 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:34.240 blah blah blah. And the next scene they show is 404 00:20:35.119 --> 00:20:39.119 the Stewart who owns the comic book store signs the 405 00:20:39.319 --> 00:20:43.519 Star Wars thumb drive and thinks, I could wipe this 406 00:20:43.640 --> 00:20:46.200 clean and sell it for ten bucks I might meet 407 00:20:46.279 --> 00:20:47.920 this week, not knowing that. 408 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:49.759 There's a ton of bitcoin on the thing. 409 00:20:50.039 --> 00:20:53.400 Right, that's that's beautiful. And the other thing is part 410 00:20:53.440 --> 00:20:55.920 of the reason why it's so expensive is because there's 411 00:20:55.960 --> 00:20:58.880 a finite amount of them that can ever be made. Right, 412 00:20:59.799 --> 00:21:03.440 And there's something like a trillion dollars worth of bitcoin 413 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:08.559 that was created and is now in a locked account 414 00:21:09.160 --> 00:21:13.559 that was created by the creator of bitcoin and has 415 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:14.640 never been used. 416 00:21:16.240 --> 00:21:17.799 Well, now, I. 417 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:21.480 Thought I thought that there was an infinite mound created 418 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.279 and it was all out there and it just needed 419 00:21:24.319 --> 00:21:25.039 to be mine. 420 00:21:25.400 --> 00:21:28.680 No, it's not infinite. Though it is out there. It 421 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:30.400 can be mined, but once it's on. 422 00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.480 It I mean a death. I'm not just walk term. 423 00:21:33.720 --> 00:21:37.279 Okay, there was there was a set amount, finite, a 424 00:21:37.319 --> 00:21:38.960 finite amount made. 425 00:21:39.319 --> 00:21:41.920 But I thought it was all out there to be mine. 426 00:21:42.680 --> 00:21:45.559 I didn't know that somebody you know, was holding back 427 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:49.799 a reserve that they can unleash later. Well, but wouldn't 428 00:21:49.839 --> 00:21:53.079 that wouldn't that affect the value if suddenly a bunch 429 00:21:53.160 --> 00:21:57.559 of bitcoin hit the not the market, but was suddenly 430 00:21:57.559 --> 00:21:59.359 put out there, wouldn't it devaluate? 431 00:21:59.559 --> 00:21:59.720 Oh? 432 00:21:59.759 --> 00:22:02.640 Sure would. But the thing is that since the creation 433 00:22:02.759 --> 00:22:08.000 of bitcoin, apparently this has been stored and untouched, so 434 00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:10.359 somebody didn't even take a dollar out of a trillion 435 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:16.160 dollars now and some people you know, and it's the 436 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:20.559 guy who allegedly created it is the guy who did this. 437 00:22:21.960 --> 00:22:24.079 So at first that wasn't a trillion dollars, but it 438 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:26.599 was just a little cash of you know, bitcoin. But 439 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:29.839 now it's like a trillion dollars worth a bitcoin, which 440 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.799 is insane. So what could you do with a trillion dollars? 441 00:22:33.839 --> 00:22:36.160 And by the way, how fast could you crash the market? 442 00:22:36.240 --> 00:22:38.720 Cash it out and be the richest person on the planet. 443 00:22:39.480 --> 00:22:42.759 See that's the other thing, right, the guy who has 444 00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.000 the code to that, if the code exists to be 445 00:22:45.000 --> 00:22:49.839 able to get into that wallet, you know, could theoretically 446 00:22:49.880 --> 00:22:52.160 become the richest person on the planet tomorrow. 447 00:22:52.720 --> 00:22:55.319 Well, I thought I remembered reading a story a couple 448 00:22:55.359 --> 00:22:57.839 of years ago about somebody who. 449 00:22:57.799 --> 00:23:03.559 Had a wallet containing some huge amount and the money 450 00:23:03.599 --> 00:23:07.880 disappeared and the person disappeared, and they haven't found either. 451 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.599 Since I don't know that story, but you know, if 452 00:23:11.640 --> 00:23:13.240 you dig it up, I'll read it for sure. 453 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.519 Yeah, I'll have to find it. That is about a 454 00:23:16.559 --> 00:23:17.759 couple of years ago when I read it. 455 00:23:17.799 --> 00:23:22.759 Apparently this person was had an exchange and had a 456 00:23:22.759 --> 00:23:25.319 bunch of deposits and was doing business and then all 457 00:23:25.359 --> 00:23:28.400 of a sudden, the deposits disappeared and the person disappeared. 458 00:23:29.200 --> 00:23:31.839 They haven't been able to find the individual since, so 459 00:23:32.839 --> 00:23:36.440 you know, all this went Apparently it was some huge 460 00:23:36.440 --> 00:23:40.880 amount worth quite them. But again, you know, that's something 461 00:23:41.200 --> 00:23:46.720 I understand, the stock market, understand commodities market, bitcoin, and 462 00:23:47.440 --> 00:23:50.200 it's just something I have never been able to understand. 463 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:53.720 One where it gets its value and two how the 464 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:56.039 hell is it? How can it be worth so much? 465 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:58.319 Because when, like I told you before, your corner of 466 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:01.839 the market is suddenly worth it worthless because you got 467 00:24:01.880 --> 00:24:02.160 it all. 468 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:05.759 And yet, like I said, there's this trillion dollar amount 469 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:09.680 that's sitting there credited to the creator a bitcoin, but 470 00:24:10.559 --> 00:24:14.759 nobody knows who he is and nobody and that wallet 471 00:24:14.799 --> 00:24:19.400 has never been accessed, so you know, that's a weird thing. 472 00:24:20.039 --> 00:24:22.279 But anyway, look, Jimmy James is back on the line, 473 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:24.279 so I'll take his call, but I would look forward 474 00:24:24.359 --> 00:24:26.559 to taking any other calls from you guys out there. 475 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.559 Three one nine, five two seven five zero one six. 476 00:24:29.880 --> 00:24:33.920 But let's see what's on Jimmy's mind this week. Jimmy, 477 00:24:33.920 --> 00:24:37.319 you're on the experimental phone lines. Hopefully you can hear me. Okay, 478 00:24:37.400 --> 00:24:38.000 what's going on? 479 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:45.200 Uh? 480 00:24:45.240 --> 00:24:52.720 Oh no, he's not making any noise according to this, Jimmy, 481 00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:58.400 got your phone muted. All right, I'm gonna put you 482 00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:01.599 on hold. You know what, I won't put you on hold. 483 00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.200 Figure it out because you're you're hooked up as far 484 00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:08.119 as I see, And I'm gonna check the regular phone 485 00:25:08.119 --> 00:25:10.559 line where they should should be able to hear you, 486 00:25:11.440 --> 00:25:13.559 and they can hear me on the regular phone line, 487 00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:18.839 but we don't hear you. Jimmy, did you fall asleep? 488 00:25:19.880 --> 00:25:22.319 Oh well, if we are snoring coming out of there, 489 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.160 be Pete will know what's happening. But anyway, yeah, I 490 00:25:25.160 --> 00:25:27.759 would be more than happy to bring a bitcoin expert on, 491 00:25:28.039 --> 00:25:31.000 but I'm no expert. I'm just starting to learn about 492 00:25:31.039 --> 00:25:34.160 some of what's happening in bitcoin world. Now he hung up, 493 00:25:34.200 --> 00:25:37.799 So maybe I had a problem with his phone. Yeah, 494 00:25:37.839 --> 00:25:40.079 I'm just starting to learn this stuff. And like I said, 495 00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:44.000 there's an interesting documentary. I should probably look it up 496 00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:47.599 right now. But do you have Netflix b Pete? 497 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:52.240 No, and I'm gonna have to get it. I'm still 498 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.799 kicked off because the NFL has started pirting. 499 00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:04.319 Out games to Amazon Prime and and ESPN, and now 500 00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:08.319 you've got to buy four different services to be able 501 00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:11.240 to watch all the NFL games. It just totally takes 502 00:26:11.240 --> 00:26:14.640 me off Netflix. I've never I've got max is the 503 00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:17.000 only thing I've got, and I've got it through a 504 00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:18.000 streaming box. 505 00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.160 But I can never even watch Netflix once. 506 00:26:23.079 --> 00:26:29.000 Well, I know there's something called Let's see, maybe it's 507 00:26:29.039 --> 00:26:33.079 this one, Trust No One. He was buying a plane, 508 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:39.799 buying a boat, the Little Island too. Apparently he started 509 00:26:39.799 --> 00:26:42.359 acquiring properties. All right, I don't know this one, but 510 00:26:43.799 --> 00:26:46.720 now I think it was. It might have been on Netflix. 511 00:26:46.799 --> 00:26:50.880 But I'm looking at the bitcoin stuff there, and there's 512 00:26:50.960 --> 00:26:54.920 like some comedy here called Hotel Bitcoin. There's Bitcoin Trust 513 00:26:55.000 --> 00:26:57.799 No One, the Hunt for the Crypto King. But I 514 00:26:57.880 --> 00:27:03.480 know there was something else. Maybe I'll have to look 515 00:27:03.519 --> 00:27:06.559 it up. The Billion Dollar Code. I don't know. Maybe 516 00:27:06.559 --> 00:27:09.279 it's one of these, but there was this documentary was 517 00:27:09.400 --> 00:27:11.559 very good and I was checking it out, checking out. 518 00:27:11.599 --> 00:27:13.400 I thought it was on Netflix, but I have to 519 00:27:13.440 --> 00:27:18.279 find out if it's on another service. So let's see 520 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:26.000 the inventor a Bitcoin. Maybe I'll check on anything else 521 00:27:26.079 --> 00:27:28.440 on your mind, this week be pete before we look 522 00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:29.920 back at the phone lines and stuff. 523 00:27:31.039 --> 00:27:33.920 Well, I've been trying to get some work done around 524 00:27:33.960 --> 00:27:34.519 the house here. 525 00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:36.519 But I mean, you know, I go to work all 526 00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:37.880 day on the construction site. 527 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:40.079 I come home to a construction site and it's really 528 00:27:40.119 --> 00:27:44.799 getting me irritated. I need to I need to change 529 00:27:44.920 --> 00:27:48.359 locations of jobs so I'm not spending fifteen hours and we've. 530 00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:49.119 Driving back and forth. 531 00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:52.200 I'm not even five o'clock in the morning when it's dark, 532 00:27:52.240 --> 00:27:54.440 and I get home at seven o'clock. 533 00:27:54.160 --> 00:27:56.319 At night when it's dark. I'm getting tired of it. 534 00:27:58.200 --> 00:28:00.160 Just trying to get stuff done around the house that 535 00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:02.920 I've been trying to keep up with the news you 536 00:28:02.960 --> 00:28:04.119 had mentioned earlier, the. 537 00:28:04.319 --> 00:28:08.279 United Healthcare guy that got assassinated. 538 00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:11.119 Oh, I find that one pretty interesting. 539 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.960 And uh, looking at some of these picks that the 540 00:28:14.039 --> 00:28:19.240 president's got, and of course listening to the rebels whale 541 00:28:19.279 --> 00:28:23.119 and moan and mash their teeth over everything Trump, It's 542 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.279 just it's getting to be a pretty pretty good side show. 543 00:28:28.759 --> 00:28:32.359 Anyway. There's apparently a bunch of these different things. And 544 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:36.440 the guy whose name is Satoshi Nakamoto is the alleged 545 00:28:36.519 --> 00:28:40.160 name of the guy who invented bitcoin? Right? And in fact, 546 00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:45.480 there's a there's one on Max. Yeah, HBO had it. 547 00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:51.279 Let's see Money Electric to Bitcoin Mystery and uh yeah, 548 00:28:51.279 --> 00:28:54.039 and also they have something who invented Bitcoin the HBO 549 00:28:54.160 --> 00:28:57.920 documentary right, okay, and uh it looks like that came 550 00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:01.599 out in October, So those are on Max might want 551 00:29:01.599 --> 00:29:03.079 to check him out here. 552 00:29:03.119 --> 00:29:04.880 I'll give him a look. I haven't been on in 553 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:06.920 a week or so. I need to crank it up tomorrow. 554 00:29:06.960 --> 00:29:07.799 See what's all the fact? 555 00:29:07.799 --> 00:29:10.240 I think I got an email today notification saying what's 556 00:29:10.279 --> 00:29:11.119 all this week on that? 557 00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.359 There you go? Well anyway, I found that there. But 558 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:17.640 I know there's a few documentaries out there that are 559 00:29:17.680 --> 00:29:21.119 pretty extensive. Let's see if we got Jimmy James on 560 00:29:21.119 --> 00:29:31.720 the line this time, Jimmy, can you hear me this time? Oh? 561 00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.440 Let's see if I put you back up like this? 562 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:37.519 How about now, Jimmy, Yeah, can you hear me? Ah? 563 00:29:37.599 --> 00:29:40.279 There we go, there we go. Okay, you are on 564 00:29:40.319 --> 00:29:40.640 the line. 565 00:29:40.680 --> 00:29:42.880 Can you hear us? 566 00:29:43.240 --> 00:29:43.480 Yeah? 567 00:29:43.519 --> 00:29:44.599 I always could hear you. 568 00:29:44.799 --> 00:29:46.599 I kept talking, all right. 569 00:29:46.640 --> 00:29:49.119 We weren't hearing you, Yeah, we weren't hearing you before. 570 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.160 But but I got you now and BPT you can 571 00:29:51.160 --> 00:29:54.279 hear him as well. Right. Oh okay, so I do 572 00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:56.359 know that this new way of hooking up the phone 573 00:29:56.400 --> 00:30:00.599 line is working, so where our phones are working anyway, Jimmy, 574 00:30:00.599 --> 00:30:01.680 what's on your mind this week? 575 00:30:03.359 --> 00:30:07.359 Yes, my questions for Chuck A. Smith. But the Lions 576 00:30:07.440 --> 00:30:12.759 having a point nine two three average percentage and. 577 00:30:12.559 --> 00:30:17.599 Aiden Hutchinson returning soon. My question is, do you or 578 00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.359 do you not believe that the Lions are heading for 579 00:30:20.440 --> 00:30:21.279 the Super Bowl? 580 00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:23.960 And if not, why the hell not? 581 00:30:26.480 --> 00:30:28.799 Well, I'll tell you this, Jimmy James. If you get 582 00:30:28.839 --> 00:30:33.000 down to the playoffs and we're looking at a super 583 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:37.000 Bowl prediction, ask me to predict the super Bowl and 584 00:30:37.319 --> 00:30:41.079 bet against whatever the hell I say, because I have 585 00:30:41.160 --> 00:30:44.160 only picked like two super Bowls in my entire life. Correctly, 586 00:30:46.039 --> 00:30:51.400 all right, that's just the truth of it. But the Lions, 587 00:30:51.440 --> 00:30:54.079 I don't know. They actually won on Thanksgiving? Didn't they 588 00:30:54.319 --> 00:30:55.839 be beat Yeah? 589 00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:59.400 They won. It was close, but they pulled it out. 590 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:02.640 Oh that's right. That was that game where they were 591 00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:06.160 like winning like through the first half and they were 592 00:31:06.200 --> 00:31:10.000 beating their opponents handily, and then the second half they 593 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:16.440 just like barely kept themselves from losing it right. 594 00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:19.079 Thickly discovered the prop and there's some jerk off took 595 00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:25.119 a picture of himself and gave away all of our plays. 596 00:31:23.519 --> 00:31:29.400 Could ye, So so the selfie somebody was able to 597 00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.519 like enlarge the selfie and get the plays. Is that 598 00:31:33.559 --> 00:31:34.440 what happened? Really? 599 00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.839 Yeah? Nobody nobody bothered. 600 00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:42.759 To mansion it to Dan Campbell until like almost the 601 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:47.079 hand of the interview after the game, they're like, sweet, 602 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:51.079 thick about that guy taking a picture showing all of your. 603 00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:57.839 Offensive calls and plays and stuff. He's like, what, Yeah, 604 00:31:57.839 --> 00:31:58.960 he was not pleased. 605 00:31:59.200 --> 00:32:00.960 Well, in fairness, how the hell would he know if 606 00:32:00.960 --> 00:32:03.680 he's occupied with the game. BPTE, did you hear about this? 607 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:06.480 No, I hadn't heard anything about that. 608 00:32:06.640 --> 00:32:11.680 I'm right now going over the division standings, you know, Jimmy, 609 00:32:11.720 --> 00:32:14.400 I think I think the Eagles might give you a 610 00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:16.599 run for your money when it comes to playoff times. 611 00:32:16.640 --> 00:32:19.640 So the only thing I see on the AFC side 612 00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:21.759 is the Bills and the Chiefs. 613 00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:24.319 Chiefs are women and one. The Bills are ten and two, 614 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.839 Eagles are getting to Vikings are ten and two. 615 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:31.319 So it's gonna be tough. I mean that you got 616 00:32:31.319 --> 00:32:33.799 to give the Lions credit now. They have got one 617 00:32:33.880 --> 00:32:36.480 hell of a team and they have they have really 618 00:32:36.519 --> 00:32:38.880 worked hard to get themselves on top of the division. 619 00:32:39.720 --> 00:32:42.960 The Vikings are right behind them, and like I said, 620 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:44.920 Vikings and Eagles are the only ones close to them, 621 00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:49.000 I think, even in ability, even though there's a difference. 622 00:32:50.079 --> 00:32:53.279 In their record. But yeah, Lions are tough this year. 623 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:54.440 It's going to be tough to beat. 624 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:00.759 And you know, I tried looking at boxing again recently 625 00:33:00.799 --> 00:33:03.559 because of that. You know that that that was that 626 00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:07.839 Jake Paul and Tyson fight got me thinking boxing again. Uh. 627 00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:12.400 But honestly, I don't see any exciting fighters out there 628 00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:15.000 that I want to watch. I don't see you know, 629 00:33:15.319 --> 00:33:18.039 I don't see anything that's catching my attention. You know 630 00:33:18.039 --> 00:33:21.519 what I'm saying. Uh in boxing, I know people like 631 00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:23.920 the UFC stuff. I don't enjoy UFC. 632 00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:24.920 Uh. 633 00:33:24.960 --> 00:33:27.519 When baseball season comes back around, I'll talk a little bit. 634 00:33:27.599 --> 00:33:30.160 But I mean, I gotta be honest with you. Football 635 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:32.880 is gonna get interesting for me around playoff time. 636 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:33.359 Uh. 637 00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:37.279 Missus Obi watching it, for sure, and she's been watching games. 638 00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:39.839 But honestly, she watches a game. I'm doing other work, 639 00:33:40.880 --> 00:33:45.240 you know, So I I just I don't know. I'm 640 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:48.440 not a big follower of any of the teams at 641 00:33:48.440 --> 00:33:51.480 this point. I barely know any of the players outside 642 00:33:51.519 --> 00:33:55.559 of Mahomes, who's you know, a media sweetheart right now? Uh. 643 00:33:55.599 --> 00:33:57.960 The Chiefs are contenders still, right, b bet or what? 644 00:33:58.839 --> 00:34:02.680 Yeah, they're leading there their division. They're eleven and one. 645 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:04.960 They're gonna be tough to be but I think they've 646 00:34:05.000 --> 00:34:07.000 seen some Chiefs in the armor this year. 647 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:08.679 They've come close to losing a few. 648 00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.280 My homes have been able to pull them out, you know, 649 00:34:11.320 --> 00:34:12.519 in the last few seconds. 650 00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.280 But I don't know. It's gonna be tough. 651 00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:19.360 I'm predicting possibly the Lions and the Bills going against 652 00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.960 each other in the Super Bowl. 653 00:34:23.599 --> 00:34:26.639 Lions in the Wait a minute, aren't they No? Wait, 654 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:29.480 let's see, the Bills are an AFC team. The Lions 655 00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:33.239 are an NFC team. Yeah, okay, I wasn't even aware 656 00:34:33.320 --> 00:34:34.079 the Lions. 657 00:34:33.760 --> 00:34:34.800 Are in the NFC North. 658 00:34:34.880 --> 00:34:38.239 It's the Lions, the Vikings, Prackers, and the Bears all 659 00:34:38.320 --> 00:34:42.760 for four teams with you know, huge history, right crammed 660 00:34:42.800 --> 00:34:48.440 in one conference I've been I have been trying to 661 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.280 I don't know, lobby the NFL to get the Cowboys 662 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:54.519 out of the NFC East and send them down to 663 00:34:54.559 --> 00:34:57.719 the NFC South and let them deal with Tampa Bay 664 00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.320 and the Saints and put us in the nf see 665 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:04.159 East where we belong. But you're not going to get 666 00:35:04.199 --> 00:35:06.400 the Cowboys out of the NFC East. I don't know 667 00:35:06.440 --> 00:35:08.800 why they're still there. When they expanded the league, they 668 00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:09.599 should have relign. 669 00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:13.880 No sense to me because where are the Carolina Panthers. 670 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:16.840 We're in the same We're in the NFC South with 671 00:35:17.280 --> 00:35:20.719 the Atlanta Falcons, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and the New Orleans Saints. 672 00:35:21.519 --> 00:35:25.559 You should be We're closer to d C than Dallas is. 673 00:35:26.079 --> 00:35:29.199 We're closer to Philadelphia than Dallas is. They should move 674 00:35:29.280 --> 00:35:31.719 us up to the NFC East and put Dallas in 675 00:35:31.800 --> 00:35:32.840 the NFC South. 676 00:35:33.599 --> 00:35:37.079 Yeah, I agree with you there that that alignment geographically. 677 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:39.119 I mean, it makes no sense that Texas is not 678 00:35:39.239 --> 00:35:39.760 in the South. 679 00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:43.119 Yeah, they said, but you know it was. 680 00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:47.480 We saw the Cowboys Redskins rivalry for years and years 681 00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:51.840 and years. They're in the NFC East with the Eagles, 682 00:35:51.840 --> 00:35:55.480 the Washington and the Giants. I think we need to 683 00:35:56.639 --> 00:35:59.159 just shove the Cowboys back to Texas and you know, 684 00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.719 let them build a new ego balloon down there with 685 00:36:02.800 --> 00:36:05.480 the Saints. Yeah, well, I mean, and that's because that's 686 00:36:05.480 --> 00:36:07.880 who kills us every year. Of course, Saints don't have 687 00:36:07.880 --> 00:36:08.679 a good team this year. 688 00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:12.360 We're bottom of the barrel. So you know, it really 689 00:36:12.360 --> 00:36:13.280 don't matter to us. 690 00:36:13.400 --> 00:36:16.159 But I do think we need to realign some things 691 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:17.760 and put Dallas down there where they belong. 692 00:36:17.920 --> 00:36:22.000 Well, Texas got themselves another team though, right, so where. 693 00:36:21.840 --> 00:36:23.679 You got there? You got the Houston Texans. 694 00:36:23.760 --> 00:36:27.480 Yeah, now where are they are in Houston? You know 695 00:36:27.519 --> 00:36:28.599 what division are they in? 696 00:36:28.679 --> 00:36:31.199 Like, they're they're a FC So let me pull that 697 00:36:31.280 --> 00:36:35.039 up real quick. They are in the a f C South. 698 00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:36.239 I think let's. 699 00:36:36.039 --> 00:36:38.280 See, oh, it would makes sense if they were. 700 00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:40.119 Yeah, a f C South. 701 00:36:40.119 --> 00:36:42.719 You got the Texas, the Colts, and that I don't 702 00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:45.320 understand how the Colts in Indianapolis or in the a 703 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:49.239 f C South. I think you got the uh the 704 00:36:49.360 --> 00:36:53.320 Jaguars in Jacksonville, Florida. You got the Titans in Tennessee, 705 00:36:53.480 --> 00:36:57.800 you got the Texans in Houston, and the Colts go 706 00:36:58.000 --> 00:36:59.960 figure the cold. 707 00:37:00.199 --> 00:37:03.159 See. Yeah, there's some weird stuff going on there geographically 708 00:37:03.239 --> 00:37:07.159 that makes no sense, right, Yeah, that is weird. And 709 00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.719 why in the hell, Dallas should be in the east 710 00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:10.800 is just beyond it. 711 00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.119 You got and that's another Well, you got dolphins in 712 00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:16.519 the AFC East. You would think they'd be in the 713 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:21.079 AFC South and the Colts would be, you know, in 714 00:37:21.159 --> 00:37:24.000 a different section, the AFC North or somewhere. 715 00:37:24.239 --> 00:37:26.159 It's crazy, well at all. 716 00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:29.239 Yeah, but see that's the thing. You putting the Dolphins 717 00:37:29.400 --> 00:37:32.400 in the South or the East would make sense because 718 00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:34.960 it's the southeastern corner of the country, you know what 719 00:37:35.000 --> 00:37:39.039 I'm saying, It makes sense. But this Dallas in the 720 00:37:39.039 --> 00:37:42.599 East is just dumb. I don't know what the point 721 00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:43.079 of that is. 722 00:37:44.880 --> 00:37:45.400 I don't know. 723 00:37:45.599 --> 00:37:49.320 I mean, you try to understand they're thinking behind some 724 00:37:49.400 --> 00:37:52.239 of this. It's gonna be an interesting set of playoffs though, 725 00:37:53.920 --> 00:37:56.440 especially with the lines as tough as they are right now. 726 00:37:56.800 --> 00:37:59.039 It's really gonna throw kink in the NFC. 727 00:37:59.280 --> 00:38:02.519 I mean, that'd be like Chargers in the South Southern Conference. 728 00:38:02.559 --> 00:38:04.000 You know, like, well, why would you do that? 729 00:38:04.599 --> 00:38:09.000 You know, they're they're Chargers in the AFC West rights 730 00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:11.320 and the Waiters in Vegas. 731 00:38:11.679 --> 00:38:15.199 Well that makes sense though, you know, because I mean, 732 00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:17.360 at least it's in the western half of the country. 733 00:38:17.360 --> 00:38:19.599 But I mean, how do you align Dallas to the 734 00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:20.360 east at all? 735 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:27.400 Sensibly, we are not the absolute bottom of the NFL. 736 00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.480 That's the Jacksonville Jaguars and they're two and ten here. 737 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.480 Fair enough. So anyway, Jimmy, you were saying. 738 00:38:33.239 --> 00:38:39.119 Go ahead, odds, because then Jerkey Jerry of the Dallas 739 00:38:39.199 --> 00:38:44.039 Cowboys is the guy running the NFL. 740 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:46.960 Is just a puppet of mister Jerry. 741 00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:50.880 Don't you know that? I did not know that, but 742 00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.920 I've heard jokes to that effect in the past. But 743 00:38:55.440 --> 00:38:57.320 don't they also make a joke that his eyes are 744 00:38:57.360 --> 00:39:02.280 too far apart too they the Cowboys. Isn't that? Isn't 745 00:39:02.280 --> 00:39:03.320 that another joke? Right? 746 00:39:06.519 --> 00:39:09.000 I didn't heard that one. Wouldn't surprised me. 747 00:39:09.800 --> 00:39:16.440 Okay, another another interesting Lions Lions fact, they have scored 748 00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:21.519 almost one hundred points more than their. 749 00:39:21.320 --> 00:39:24.440 Closest competitor, which would be the Eagles. The Lions this 750 00:39:24.599 --> 00:39:29.440 year have scored four hundred and seventeen points versus only 751 00:39:29.480 --> 00:39:34.880 two hundred and thirty four points against them. 752 00:39:33.239 --> 00:39:37.119 M Well, that's pretty that's pretty vicious. I mean you're 753 00:39:37.159 --> 00:39:40.519 talking well, that means that you're looking at least what 754 00:39:40.639 --> 00:39:42.519 thirty five a game minimally, right? 755 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:42.840 Yeah? 756 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.840 See, so that that game on Thanksgiving being a squeaker, 757 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.280 that was an anomaly. They're usually just beating the living 758 00:39:49.360 --> 00:39:51.119 hell out of their opponents. 759 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:56.280 Yeah, what can you do again? But so so, you 760 00:39:56.280 --> 00:39:58.199 definitely think the Lions will be going to the Ball, 761 00:39:58.239 --> 00:39:59.920 which will make Jimmy James happy for sure. 762 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:00.719 Yeah. 763 00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:02.960 I think, I honestly think they've got a good shot 764 00:40:03.039 --> 00:40:03.639 going with the Bowl. 765 00:40:03.679 --> 00:40:05.400 It's just gonna be whether they're playing the Chiefs or 766 00:40:05.440 --> 00:40:06.079 the Pills. 767 00:40:06.760 --> 00:40:09.079 Hell of a year for you, Jimmy James. Look, Trump 768 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:12.519 won and maybe the Lions will take the Bowl. How 769 00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:13.000 about that? 770 00:40:16.800 --> 00:40:21.079 Yes, th Rell apocalypto stuff there. 771 00:40:23.599 --> 00:40:25.519 Well, it's not like the Browns are going to the 772 00:40:25.559 --> 00:40:30.119 Super Bowl, is it? Did they even exist anymore? 773 00:40:31.000 --> 00:40:33.960 Yeah, they're They're three and nine, just like the Panthers. 774 00:40:34.039 --> 00:40:35.199 Pretty pathetic this year. 775 00:40:35.320 --> 00:40:37.519 Yeah, but aren't they pathetic every year? The Browns? I mean, 776 00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.079 have they gone last year? 777 00:40:39.119 --> 00:40:41.000 They were up there, They had a good record. Last year, 778 00:40:41.000 --> 00:40:43.320 they were really they were playing some good football. Really 779 00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.599 think I think the injuries have killed them this year. 780 00:40:46.119 --> 00:40:48.920 Okay, My understanding is it's like the Browns is always 781 00:40:48.920 --> 00:40:53.239 the team you can write off immediately. But yeah, good Jimmy. 782 00:40:54.400 --> 00:40:59.199 The Browns that got big the quarterbacks like a criminal. 783 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.760 I think it's causing some problems here. 784 00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.599 Which one is the criminal quarterback with the Browns. 785 00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:08.679 Browns? 786 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.119 Well, the guy that's apparently not playing. 787 00:41:12.639 --> 00:41:15.599 Oh okay, I don't know. I was just asking. I 788 00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:17.639 was asking an honest, open question. I don't know who 789 00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:17.920 he is. 790 00:41:19.119 --> 00:41:21.800 I don't know the guys man because he rarely plays 791 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.920 to soon trouble. 792 00:41:26.880 --> 00:41:29.239 So there's a Browns quarterback that's in trouble a lot 793 00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:31.239 b Pete. What do you know about that? 794 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:33.239 Oh? 795 00:41:33.280 --> 00:41:38.519 Well, now I'm trying to look up that right now. Yeah, 796 00:41:38.599 --> 00:41:41.599 realize you know, the Browns will remember Auto Graham. I 797 00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:45.679 mean that's a name that goes back centuries. Browns joined 798 00:41:45.719 --> 00:41:49.159 in fifty Let's see what their roster is, their fifty 799 00:41:49.199 --> 00:41:50.119 three man roster. 800 00:41:53.519 --> 00:41:59.039 Jervis Jernis Winston is currently the quarterback. 801 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:02.760 Okay, that's a name I don't recognize. 802 00:42:02.320 --> 00:42:04.880 Even becourse they don't have their pedal record next to 803 00:42:04.960 --> 00:42:05.360 the name. 804 00:42:06.159 --> 00:42:09.320 No, so I can't look up whether they made bail 805 00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:09.599 or not. 806 00:42:11.599 --> 00:42:13.639 Yeah, that's a different website. You got to check the 807 00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:15.440 bail on a different website, you know. 808 00:42:15.679 --> 00:42:17.239 Now, Jimmy, which what's the. 809 00:42:18.960 --> 00:42:21.519 Was this an old quarterback or is he somebody still 810 00:42:21.679 --> 00:42:23.599 currently on the team or is he fulling time? 811 00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:28.639 They might have just stitched him like a few weeks ago. 812 00:42:29.599 --> 00:42:32.239 Okay, yeah, James Wilson is still there. 813 00:42:33.239 --> 00:42:35.960 Bailey Zapp is a backup, and they had another one 814 00:42:36.039 --> 00:42:38.039 listed as Dorian Thompson. 815 00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.320 Robinson went to E C. L A. 816 00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:45.239 You know, I kept seeing commercials for the Aaron Rodgers story. 817 00:42:46.320 --> 00:42:47.199 Who did he play for? 818 00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:49.400 Aaron Rodgers? 819 00:42:49.599 --> 00:42:52.880 Yeah, he was there, the Patriots guy who ended up 820 00:42:52.880 --> 00:42:55.760 going to jail for shooting Patriots. 821 00:42:55.840 --> 00:43:01.079 Right, yeah, a Rogers, you play. 822 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:03.559 For the Packers. Now he plays for the Jets. 823 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.639 Oh that's well, who am I taking up? Who's the 824 00:43:06.679 --> 00:43:07.920 guy with the Patriots to? 825 00:43:10.239 --> 00:43:10.280 No? 826 00:43:10.519 --> 00:43:13.599 That's uh that Aaron Hernandez. 827 00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:16.519 Aaron Hernandez was throwing me. 828 00:43:16.920 --> 00:43:21.400 Yeah, here's some rumblings about Rogers now want He wanted 829 00:43:21.400 --> 00:43:24.679 to go to the Jets, and now apparently the Jets 830 00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:25.480 don't want him. 831 00:43:26.360 --> 00:43:28.199 He's had a pretty pretty crappy year. 832 00:43:28.280 --> 00:43:30.719 Of course, he was injured all last year, so they 833 00:43:30.719 --> 00:43:33.320 were hoping he'd come out, you know, gangbusters this year, 834 00:43:33.400 --> 00:43:35.079 but it didn't happen. 835 00:43:35.519 --> 00:43:39.039 Well, again, though, the Jets is exactly where you know, 836 00:43:39.760 --> 00:43:43.480 careers go to die, so you know, I'm not not 837 00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:46.960 surprised there because that even when I was watching it 838 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:48.440 a lot as a kid. I mean, it was like 839 00:43:48.840 --> 00:43:50.599 every time they got a good play, it's like the Mets, 840 00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.719 when they get a great player, they're no longer great 841 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.159 as soon as they put on that uniform. 842 00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:57.119 That's the end of it. Was a guy hard Jets fan. 843 00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:00.800 He was a Joe Willie Namath fan, and he stuck 844 00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:04.320 with him year after year after year. So I kind 845 00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:07.599 of know how he feels this year watching the Panthers play. 846 00:44:10.800 --> 00:44:15.079 Let's see, I'm looking for this docu dramas about Oh, 847 00:44:15.159 --> 00:44:17.599 it was Aaron Hernandez who I was thinking of. I said, 848 00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:21.519 Aaron Rodgers and I met Aaron Hernandez. Yeah, twenty twenty 849 00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:24.480 Netflix series that explores the life of former NFL player 850 00:44:24.559 --> 00:44:28.639 Aaron Hernandez. For some reason, they were really pushing this 851 00:44:28.679 --> 00:44:35.599 thing recently, but apparently it's a twenty twenty series from Netflix. Anyway, 852 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:39.159 I was seeing commercials for it for some reason. But 853 00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.519 it was Aaron Hernandez. Now that's the guy I think 854 00:44:41.559 --> 00:44:43.000 did shoot somebody. 855 00:44:43.119 --> 00:44:47.400 Right, Yeah, he got nailed for apparently a drive by 856 00:44:48.039 --> 00:44:52.320 and in investigating that going through his trial and all. 857 00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:54.840 Apparently they came across some evidence where he was involved 858 00:44:54.880 --> 00:44:57.119 in an earlier shooting that they hadn't tied him to. 859 00:44:57.400 --> 00:45:00.320 So I think they took placed two names on him 860 00:45:01.360 --> 00:45:02.239 as victims. 861 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.639 Wow, so there you go. 862 00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:08.800 Remember of the gang, he was a gang member while 863 00:45:08.880 --> 00:45:10.119 being in the NFL. 864 00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:11.719 He was a career criminal. 865 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.599 Uh was what was the MS thirteen? Just I'm guessing 866 00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:19.159 with the uh you know, mind of Aaron Hernandez the 867 00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:21.599 killer inside. I mean, I'm looking at all these listings. 868 00:45:21.639 --> 00:45:22.400 It's pretty wild. 869 00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:30.440 We're calling out fib he was with sounds right, mm hmm. 870 00:45:30.760 --> 00:45:33.840 Okay, I don't think it was thirteen. 871 00:45:33.960 --> 00:45:37.480 I think he was. Uh, I'll see if we can 872 00:45:37.480 --> 00:45:39.320 find it now. I don't think it was MS thirteen. 873 00:45:39.719 --> 00:45:42.280 Like a lot of familiar like Mexican mafia or something. 874 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:49.639 I mean, that's what I'm thinking. Crip a crip, no kidding, I. 875 00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:55.679 Think I don't know. It's not normal football stuff. He's 876 00:45:55.840 --> 00:45:58.440 kind of an odd at heat usually. 877 00:45:58.960 --> 00:45:59.920 Remember of the Bloods. 878 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:01.519 He was a member of the Bloods. 879 00:46:01.559 --> 00:46:04.599 Okay, yeah, oh my bad. 880 00:46:05.519 --> 00:46:10.239 Jimmy was close. You know, Crips and Bloods they're they're 881 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:14.840 kind of uh inexorably tied together, right, Yeah, he was. 882 00:46:14.840 --> 00:46:16.760 A member of the Bloods and apparently he just got 883 00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:19.599 nailed for having some gang paraphernia or something in jail. 884 00:46:20.440 --> 00:46:24.119 M Let's see, I'm looking into the chat room here. 885 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.880 We could uh street cream because when anybody asks, we 886 00:46:26.920 --> 00:46:31.119 can tell him about aot. Okay, an uncle, of course 887 00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.920 you need to print up some retro trans resistor radio shirts. 888 00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:36.400 You know. 889 00:46:37.119 --> 00:46:40.760 Maybe he's talking to Aaron in the chat room there. Okay, 890 00:46:41.480 --> 00:46:45.400 selfie captures lions intel. Yeah, I had not heard this story, 891 00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.360 but have you have you found that story yet? Be 892 00:46:49.480 --> 00:46:53.639 pete about the lions and the selfie problem there? 893 00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:57.639 Well, let me see fong. 894 00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:04.880 M And anyway, anybody wants to join in the conversation 895 00:47:05.039 --> 00:47:07.360 and change it up any which way you want, Three 896 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.360 one nine five two seven five zero one six is 897 00:47:10.400 --> 00:47:12.880 the number to call, and I'll be more than happy 898 00:47:12.920 --> 00:47:16.960 to add you right onto the line. Actually, it looks 899 00:47:16.960 --> 00:47:19.360 like I got to switch these things up here real quick, 900 00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.519 and I am going to do that right now. Jimmy, 901 00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.679 hang on a second, all participants are muted. Okay, now 902 00:47:26.719 --> 00:47:29.440 that will put Jimmy back on the line. Jimmy you're 903 00:47:29.480 --> 00:47:32.679 back right. Here we go, there we go. Okay, so 904 00:47:32.800 --> 00:47:35.519 now we're set up correctly. That's weird. 905 00:47:36.079 --> 00:47:38.440 Okay, I found the story. 906 00:47:40.880 --> 00:47:45.679 So you got the story on the Lions getting getting Uh. 907 00:47:45.719 --> 00:47:51.079 Yes, this is uh now, this is from MSN and 908 00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:55.280 it's dated December. A. No, that's I'm sorry, that's the 909 00:47:55.320 --> 00:47:56.360 schedule coming up. 910 00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:57.440 Says uh. 911 00:47:58.199 --> 00:48:01.239 The ta Lions boss Day Campbell, and highest concerned effort 912 00:48:01.280 --> 00:48:06.239 emerged that Savere Gibbs might have accidentally given away team 913 00:48:06.400 --> 00:48:09.760 secrets on social media. In the wake of the Lions 914 00:48:09.840 --> 00:48:13.079 now biting twenty three to twenty twenty victory over the 915 00:48:13.159 --> 00:48:18.400 Chicago Bears on Thanksgiving, Gibshild shared a celebratory snap of 916 00:48:18.559 --> 00:48:23.239 teammate Jamar Jefferson online. The young star was buzzing from 917 00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.199 the win, having racked up an impressive eighty seven yards 918 00:48:26.239 --> 00:48:29.519 in just nine garys, contributing to Detroit's assent to an 919 00:48:29.519 --> 00:48:33.440 eleven to one record, but the photo inadvertently showcased more 920 00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.920 than just team spirit. A whiteboard in the background seemed 921 00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:41.400 to reveal the Lions dropped back protections for running backs. 922 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:44.960 When quizzed about the potentially. 923 00:48:44.559 --> 00:48:49.039 Revealing post featuring some of their plays, Lions head coach Campbell, 924 00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:51.960 who had been unaware of the leak, was clearly concerned. 925 00:48:53.239 --> 00:48:56.719 I bet he was, Jimmy, But you heard about this 926 00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:58.039 like right after the game. 927 00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:03.239 Oh, I was watching the press conference and then like 928 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.599 the last thing, someone asks, do you think it's bad 929 00:49:07.800 --> 00:49:11.199 that this guy put all your stuff out there before 930 00:49:11.280 --> 00:49:11.719 the game? 931 00:49:12.400 --> 00:49:15.199 And dam Campbell's like, what what are you talking about? 932 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:18.119 And then they gave him the names. He goes, no, 933 00:49:18.400 --> 00:49:22.800 I did. Obviously didn't know about this. Obviously it's better that. 934 00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:26.000 Our stuff now be out all over the place. 935 00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:30.039 This this interview is over, and he walked away. He 936 00:49:30.239 --> 00:49:31.440 wasn't happy at all. 937 00:49:31.880 --> 00:49:34.920 Wow, so this happened before the game. He takes a 938 00:49:35.039 --> 00:49:39.280 selfie and all the players get out there. That is hilarious. 939 00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:44.320 I mean, and they still won. That's the even weirder 940 00:49:44.400 --> 00:49:45.000 part about it. 941 00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:49.480 Right, Well, yeah, I will you know, I'll be honest 942 00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:49.679 with you. 943 00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:51.360 I thought that game was going to go to overtime. 944 00:49:55.719 --> 00:49:57.400 They pulled it out right in the last second. 945 00:49:59.000 --> 00:50:01.960 That game would have been blowout. If they had had 946 00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.519 some little cheating help there, it might be right. 947 00:50:06.760 --> 00:50:09.800 I I you know, I can't contest what you're saying there, 948 00:50:09.880 --> 00:50:13.559 because that is just hilarious to me that, you know, 949 00:50:13.639 --> 00:50:16.119 people got to be careful with these. Social media is 950 00:50:16.159 --> 00:50:18.760 a dangerous thing. You never know what you could be 951 00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:21.159 exposing in the background of any given picture. 952 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.280 Well if you if you watch a game, then they 953 00:50:24.360 --> 00:50:26.920 show you know, sideline shots, and the coaches and all 954 00:50:27.119 --> 00:50:30.639 the majority of them when they go to either put 955 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:33.719 a play in talking into their microphone, and that all 956 00:50:33.840 --> 00:50:35.679 of them hold their play sheets and that up over 957 00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.320 their face so that you can't lip read. 958 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:41.920 Yeah, what they're telling. I mean, it's stealing info. 959 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:44.639 You know, we used to think that stealing signs in 960 00:50:44.719 --> 00:50:48.599 baseball was about the worst case of it. But as 961 00:50:48.639 --> 00:50:51.239 we see now, you know, guys are really worried about 962 00:50:51.760 --> 00:50:54.400 someone sitting there watching the broadcast or even the lips 963 00:50:54.440 --> 00:50:56.239 going okay, fast play coming up. 964 00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.519 You know it's going to be deep get your back 965 00:50:59.280 --> 00:51:00.880 or you know, a blit, it's coming up. We're gonna 966 00:51:01.039 --> 00:51:05.039 we're gonna run a screen, okay, guys. Blitzing just amazing. 967 00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:10.599 Technology is so quick to give us those images and 968 00:51:10.760 --> 00:51:15.000 that you can relay a response to somebody instantaneous and 969 00:51:15.159 --> 00:51:18.880 basically change your entire defense in a matter of seconds. 970 00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:23.119 You know, absolutely, Hey, listen. I'm gonna go ahead and 971 00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.639 put Jimmy James on hold. But don't worry, Jimmy, We'll 972 00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:27.320 come back to here because I want to go to 973 00:51:27.400 --> 00:51:30.679 a break. We are almost out of an hour here. 974 00:51:30.760 --> 00:51:32.519 I got it started a little late, but I want 975 00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:34.159 to take a little break here at least get one 976 00:51:34.280 --> 00:51:36.840 in on the Friday Night call in show and give 977 00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:38.840 you guys a chance to also join us, because we 978 00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.519 got one more hour left before the Age of Transitions 979 00:51:41.559 --> 00:51:45.239 begins at ten pm Eastern. So three one nine five 980 00:51:45.280 --> 00:51:48.000 to two seven five zero one six is the number 981 00:51:48.039 --> 00:51:50.280 to call and join us. And you can change the 982 00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.440 topic at any moment just by showing up three one 983 00:51:53.599 --> 00:51:56.800 nine five two seven five zero one six and the 984 00:51:56.880 --> 00:52:00.840 o'celli effect open mic Friday Night return after this. 985 00:52:23.920 --> 00:52:25.760 Revelation through conversation. 986 00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:28.360 Go ahead, calin, I'm interested in the truth about the 987 00:52:28.440 --> 00:52:29.440 Jafay assassination. 988 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:30.639 Right, Well, what do you want to know? 989 00:52:30.880 --> 00:52:34.239 Dy Baker's wild claim oswell, girlfriends he knew Ruby and 990 00:52:34.320 --> 00:52:35.719 Barry answer weapons? 991 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:38.039 Really, I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. 992 00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:41.719 It doesn't make me a wagon, But okay, on Zilby. 993 00:52:41.559 --> 00:52:43.599 And trying to prevent the murder of John Kennedy. 994 00:52:43.679 --> 00:52:44.599 Come on now has a. 995 00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:47.599 Real effort on the day of Hey assassination reclaim. 996 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:51.800 Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her 997 00:52:51.880 --> 00:52:54.679 own words. 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Message BPT 1033 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:20.960 on Facebook whatever. Don't message me on Facebook because I'm 1034 00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:23.360 kind of locked out of my account right now. But 1035 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:26.719 I got I'm able to get through in one device 1036 00:58:26.920 --> 00:58:30.719 and it's a very bad device. So anyway, for some reason, 1037 00:58:30.760 --> 00:58:33.960 they got me secured out of my Facebook account, but 1038 00:58:34.119 --> 00:58:37.159 you can contact me on X contact me anywhere. Let 1039 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.960 me know if you think another night would be better 1040 00:58:40.079 --> 00:58:42.840 for call ins, I'll add it. You know, if you 1041 00:58:42.880 --> 00:58:45.039 think that my Monday night show, I could go back 1042 00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.440 to doing a Monday night show. I could probably do 1043 00:58:47.519 --> 00:58:49.239 a call in show on Mondays. I could do it 1044 00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:54.360 on Tuesdays Wednesdays and just start taking calls on other nights. 1045 00:58:54.599 --> 00:58:57.599 If you guys are into the call in thing, let's 1046 00:58:57.639 --> 00:59:00.840 get it going and let's get calls rolling. But that 1047 00:59:01.039 --> 00:59:04.360 requires live participation, which has really been gone downhill the 1048 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:08.920 past few years. So you know, let me know. We'll 1049 00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:12.400 make more calling nights. I mean, I like doing the 1050 00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:17.159 Friday night thing, but I want more callers. So you know, 1051 00:59:17.440 --> 00:59:21.000 I'm happy Jimmy James calls in every Friday, and some 1052 00:59:21.159 --> 00:59:24.679 other people join us from time to time, but yeah, 1053 00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:27.880 we need more? Is it because it's Friday night? Be Pete? 1054 00:59:28.119 --> 00:59:30.000 What do you think? Oh? Before I get to what 1055 00:59:30.079 --> 00:59:33.039 do you think? Three one nine five, two seven five 1056 00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:35.559 zero one six? And we'll keep that number the same 1057 00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.599 every night we do call ins three one nine five 1058 00:59:38.679 --> 00:59:42.119 to two seven five zero one six. B Pete, what 1059 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:43.079 do you think about all this. 1060 00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:45.039 Oh, I don't know. 1061 00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:47.599 I'm just looking at Friday nights and I see people 1062 00:59:47.679 --> 00:59:50.360 at work, and you know, especially people with kids, and 1063 00:59:50.440 --> 00:59:53.239 that it seems like Friday's is tonight that you know, 1064 00:59:53.400 --> 00:59:56.280 they go out, they do something, or kids got something 1065 00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:57.400 going on. 1066 00:59:58.239 --> 00:59:59.119 Just I don't know. 1067 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:02.360 Fot is probably a hard time right now. Just get 1068 01:00:02.440 --> 01:00:06.519 people that are sitting around listening to the show. You know, 1069 01:00:06.559 --> 01:00:08.360 I don't know if they'd be more available during the 1070 01:00:08.400 --> 01:00:12.039 week or not. I'm busy every night, so you know, 1071 01:00:12.119 --> 01:00:13.719 I don't know what it's like having a house full 1072 01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.320 of kids and trying to listen to a show and 1073 01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:19.360 participate when you know you've got stuff going on. 1074 01:00:19.760 --> 01:00:21.800 Well fair enough, but I mean I'd even do a 1075 01:00:21.920 --> 01:00:24.840 Sunday I was, you know, playing with doing Sundays on here, 1076 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:27.360 but didn't seem like it caught much interest. I would 1077 01:00:27.400 --> 01:00:29.480 do a Sunday call in show. I do a Monday 1078 01:00:29.559 --> 01:00:31.880 call in show, even though I'm not currently broadcasting on 1079 01:00:31.960 --> 01:00:35.119 those nights. If there's a night that you think would 1080 01:00:35.159 --> 01:00:38.440 be better, you, the listener out there, think would be 1081 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:41.920 better for call ins, tell me and I'll do it. 1082 01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:46.679 We'll see if we can make it happen. And you know, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, 1083 01:00:46.800 --> 01:00:49.639 any day, because I'm looking to switch things up here 1084 01:00:50.079 --> 01:00:53.079 and I'm willing to split it into different topics. You 1085 01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:57.119 got a topic that's not being discussed anywhere else, tell 1086 01:00:57.159 --> 01:01:00.280 me about it. There's an area of interest, but you 1087 01:01:00.400 --> 01:01:01.760 want covered in a different way. 1088 01:01:02.000 --> 01:01:02.559 We can do it. 1089 01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:05.760 I can do it even on nights when I can't 1090 01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:08.519 get BPT to co host, even if I'm not well 1091 01:01:08.559 --> 01:01:10.280 read on the subject. I told you I'll do a 1092 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.760 sports show, and I'll just have to, you know, refamiliarize 1093 01:01:13.800 --> 01:01:16.400 myself with sports. I used to do it. I used 1094 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:18.199 to be well aware of sports. I used to listen 1095 01:01:18.199 --> 01:01:22.679 to Wfan and New York all the time. I actually 1096 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:26.760 used to call in on the overnights at WFAN And 1097 01:01:26.840 --> 01:01:29.960 have you ever heard of wfan and New York PP. Yeah, 1098 01:01:31.559 --> 01:01:33.360 I think it was one of the first, like all 1099 01:01:33.480 --> 01:01:35.719 sports radio stations like in the country. 1100 01:01:37.440 --> 01:01:38.320 But no, I don't. 1101 01:01:38.880 --> 01:01:41.599 I'm wondering though, if part of it is people have 1102 01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:44.599 gotten so used now to just pick it up the 1103 01:01:44.679 --> 01:01:47.320 podcast and listening to it while they're communing. I mean, 1104 01:01:47.360 --> 01:01:49.440 that's usually when I listen to your stuff is when 1105 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.800 I'm on my way to work, I don't have anything 1106 01:01:51.880 --> 01:01:54.639 going on, and I'm tired of listening to radio. I'll 1107 01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:57.800 pull yours up listen to a podcast. I'm just wondering 1108 01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.320 if people have gotten used to the podcast form of 1109 01:02:00.440 --> 01:02:02.960 things now and I don't have to call in and 1110 01:02:03.039 --> 01:02:04.559 listen to the show because I can always listen to 1111 01:02:04.679 --> 01:02:04.960 it later. 1112 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:09.039 See, that's the thing. That's why the live shows. Everybody's 1113 01:02:09.119 --> 01:02:12.199 live numbers and I do mean everybody's live numbers are down, 1114 01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:15.679 you know, And a lot of these podcasters don't bother 1115 01:02:16.039 --> 01:02:18.920 to do a live show at all where people even 1116 01:02:18.960 --> 01:02:20.599 have access to it. I mean, I don't think Joe 1117 01:02:20.719 --> 01:02:24.480 Rogan does a live show, and you know, I mean, 1118 01:02:24.519 --> 01:02:26.719 I know he's well supported and sponsored and all that, 1119 01:02:26.920 --> 01:02:29.480 and you know, people like that. They're in a different 1120 01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:32.199 strata than me. But even guys that are, you know, 1121 01:02:32.360 --> 01:02:36.039 doing pretty successful independent shows, for the most part, their 1122 01:02:36.119 --> 01:02:40.039 live show is not the big attraction. It's not where 1123 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.920 most of their listeners are. I mean, are we at 1124 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.360 a time when the call in show is no longer necessary? 1125 01:02:46.440 --> 01:02:49.800 I mean, I don't know. I like the idea of 1126 01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.480 being able to commune and call in and you know, 1127 01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:56.440 either argue or share ideas or hear from other people 1128 01:02:56.519 --> 01:02:59.719 in other parts of the country, you know, especially when 1129 01:02:59.760 --> 01:03:01.920 things are going on and you know somebody's local to 1130 01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:04.679 an area. I mean, I've enjoyed those kind of calls 1131 01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:07.320 on this show, like where we found out about what 1132 01:03:07.519 --> 01:03:10.440 was happening in uh in Uh where was it in 1133 01:03:10.519 --> 01:03:12.880 Wisconsin when it was happening You remember that? 1134 01:03:13.639 --> 01:03:13.760 Oh? 1135 01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.559 Yeah, you know, or where we found out about what 1136 01:03:16.719 --> 01:03:19.960 was happening in Minnesota. We we had you know, ace 1137 01:03:20.039 --> 01:03:23.480 Lynn Miller went and uh, you know, appeared at the 1138 01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:27.320 Fetzer trial, right he called in. I love that. 1139 01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:29.639 I need to update too. I need to check in 1140 01:03:29.760 --> 01:03:35.159 and see where Fetzer's saw this settled part of his 1141 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:39.559 Amateur Awards. 1142 01:03:40.679 --> 01:03:44.360 Oh and you know a weird thing. Now, I wasn't 1143 01:03:44.440 --> 01:03:46.519 sure if I was going to mention this on air, 1144 01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:49.639 but you know what, I think you'll enjoy the controversy 1145 01:03:49.719 --> 01:03:52.119 of it, or controversy be pete as they say on 1146 01:03:52.159 --> 01:03:56.079 the other side of the pond. Did you know that 1147 01:03:56.239 --> 01:03:59.840 this year there was an attempted boycott of Lancer And 1148 01:04:00.079 --> 01:04:02.800 I didn't know about it until after the conference. 1149 01:04:03.920 --> 01:04:07.239 No, I hadn't heard anything. Give us the details. 1150 01:04:07.440 --> 01:04:10.280 Okay, check this out now, I don't know who you 1151 01:04:10.440 --> 01:04:12.800 follow on Facebook. But I find it strange that you 1152 01:04:12.920 --> 01:04:17.239 didn't find out about this, but others did. Apparently there 1153 01:04:17.400 --> 01:04:23.400 was a Facebook group even that was created to boycott Lancers. See, 1154 01:04:23.480 --> 01:04:25.920 I knew our numbers were low, they weren't as low 1155 01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:28.039 as some people thought they were going to be. And 1156 01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:30.639 from what I understand, we did better than any other 1157 01:04:30.760 --> 01:04:34.000 conference this year. And you have the other JFK conferences, 1158 01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:36.360 and there were two that were competing with us. One 1159 01:04:36.440 --> 01:04:40.280 of them dropped the in person event entirely, and the 1160 01:04:40.360 --> 01:04:42.440 other one was Judy Baker's. You know, she won't drop 1161 01:04:42.519 --> 01:04:45.079 that event. If five people show up, She's going to 1162 01:04:45.119 --> 01:04:49.199 do it right, right, I mean, that's her whole life. 1163 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:53.960 So anyway, Judy did her thing. We supposedly had better 1164 01:04:54.039 --> 01:04:58.199 attendance than her, and there was no WET conference. And 1165 01:04:58.400 --> 01:05:01.880 like I said, the Kappa conference was canceled in person, 1166 01:05:02.000 --> 01:05:05.079 they only did an online thing. But it turns out 1167 01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:10.559 that because of the objection to one presenter at at Lancer. 1168 01:05:11.559 --> 01:05:13.840 Guess who, and it's a name, you know, be Pete. 1169 01:05:14.599 --> 01:05:18.599 Guess who decided to try and get a boycott rolling 1170 01:05:18.719 --> 01:05:21.079 against Lancer. I want you to try and guess and 1171 01:05:21.119 --> 01:05:23.119 then I'm going to try and get Jimmy James to guess. 1172 01:05:24.599 --> 01:05:31.639 Of who would start a boycott. Yeah, I haven't a clue, 1173 01:05:32.280 --> 01:05:33.159 no clue. 1174 01:05:33.719 --> 01:05:35.719 Bro All right, let me let me get Jimmy and 1175 01:05:35.760 --> 01:05:39.760 ask him the same question. Say, Jimmy, you were listening 1176 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:40.639 to what I said, right? 1177 01:05:42.280 --> 01:05:45.519 Yeah, swear up the bet. My guess would be Jimmy d. 1178 01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:52.480 And Jimmy James for the win. Can you believe that? 1179 01:05:52.719 --> 01:05:52.760 Be? 1180 01:05:52.960 --> 01:05:53.239 Pete? 1181 01:05:54.000 --> 01:05:55.800 Well? What what Stako? 1182 01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:59.199 Did he have an issue with Fred Litwyn? 1183 01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:02.400 Are you serious? 1184 01:06:02.639 --> 01:06:03.320 Dead serious? 1185 01:06:04.400 --> 01:06:04.559 Oh? 1186 01:06:04.719 --> 01:06:07.559 We spoke and you know that sounds like some parton 1187 01:06:07.639 --> 01:06:10.000 my friend, some dickhead moved that Fetcher would. 1188 01:06:09.760 --> 01:06:24.119 Pull instead de Eugenio pulled it. So yeah, is that 1189 01:06:24.320 --> 01:06:24.800 too much? 1190 01:06:25.039 --> 01:06:28.960 Jimmy did you that's just playing being petty? 1191 01:06:29.920 --> 01:06:32.239 I agree with you. But Jimmy James, did you hear 1192 01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:34.440 about this? Did you know? Or was that just your 1193 01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:35.760 calculated guests. 1194 01:06:37.400 --> 01:06:42.280 Just listening to you? I, I reasoned out, I just 1195 01:06:42.440 --> 01:06:47.119 knew the answer. He's the only person that does things 1196 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:47.559 like this. 1197 01:06:48.559 --> 01:06:51.639 You know, agreed. I'll tell you another weird thing about 1198 01:06:51.719 --> 01:06:55.920 him which has gotten strange in the past few years. 1199 01:06:55.960 --> 01:06:57.960 And I was unaware of this until recently. 1200 01:06:58.599 --> 01:06:58.639 That. 1201 01:06:58.760 --> 01:07:03.199 Apparently he did a couple JFK presentations in the past 1202 01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:08.239 year or two where he is kind of doing the 1203 01:07:09.000 --> 01:07:11.480 Jews were responsible for killing Kennedy thing. 1204 01:07:12.480 --> 01:07:14.039 Oh, he's been hitting down. 1205 01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:19.159 I'd have to tie him back at. 1206 01:07:19.280 --> 01:07:26.400 Least into probably two thousand and sixteen maybe. Okay, when 1207 01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:29.519 he started that spout, did he really I. 1208 01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:32.280 Didn't realize that because I always thought that Jim. 1209 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.519 D was a liberal, so braak about it. Then he 1210 01:07:35.559 --> 01:07:38.840 would slide a little comment in. You know, the Fetzer. 1211 01:07:40.519 --> 01:07:43.159 Defetcher is one of those the Jews did it about 1212 01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:44.840 a lot of stuff and a lot of the people 1213 01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:47.960 that were tied with Fetcher back when he was doing 1214 01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:50.519 his show with Mike King and the rest of them. 1215 01:07:52.440 --> 01:07:54.800 You know, you just used to irritate the living hell 1216 01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:55.239 out of me. 1217 01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:57.719 I asked him one time in a chat room or something, 1218 01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:00.599 if you know some Jews stoles go right back when 1219 01:08:00.639 --> 01:08:03.320 he was in high school or something, because it's always 1220 01:08:03.360 --> 01:08:04.440 been the Jews did it. 1221 01:08:05.719 --> 01:08:07.639 Well, you heard that freak out he did on Ground 1222 01:08:07.719 --> 01:08:10.920 zero radio right where he was like Holocaust denial and 1223 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:11.280 all that. 1224 01:08:12.119 --> 01:08:16.800 Yeah, he's been, he's been. I don't know what. I 1225 01:08:16.920 --> 01:08:19.520 don't know how people go off in that spiral. 1226 01:08:19.640 --> 01:08:22.159 They think that the Jews are responsible for everything that 1227 01:08:22.279 --> 01:08:23.880 goes on in the world that they don't like. 1228 01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:26.239 Well, no, there was that book. 1229 01:08:27.399 --> 01:08:30.760 There was the way last week after we guys, after 1230 01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:36.119 we talked and I started thinking about these mysterious alleged 1231 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:43.279 q N and Ninja's Yeah, everything taken into consideration. 1232 01:08:45.000 --> 01:08:48.159 I'll tell you who they were working with their court. 1233 01:08:48.600 --> 01:08:53.239 Jude's very baker. They were harassing your conference. 1234 01:08:53.760 --> 01:08:56.960 No, no, they were actually well here's the here's the 1235 01:08:57.079 --> 01:09:00.359 thing I got to counter your your claim me and 1236 01:09:00.439 --> 01:09:05.199 here's why. At the time, Judy was on stage and 1237 01:09:05.359 --> 01:09:08.479 she's part of that moment of silence and all that. Now, okay, 1238 01:09:09.199 --> 01:09:13.239 so they were actually disrupting something that Judy was involved with. 1239 01:09:14.840 --> 01:09:18.960 So doesn't that just doesn't that just make more publicity 1240 01:09:19.439 --> 01:09:20.760 than her mind for her? 1241 01:09:21.800 --> 01:09:24.520 Well, I didn't see any additional publics. That's the other 1242 01:09:24.600 --> 01:09:27.600 funny thing is find it online outside of my reporting 1243 01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:32.760 about it that it happened. Yeah, okay, I. 1244 01:09:32.800 --> 01:09:33.319 Haven't heard it. 1245 01:09:33.760 --> 01:09:36.520 I heard it from you, I guess I did hear 1246 01:09:36.560 --> 01:09:41.920 it from one. I heard it from one other person 1247 01:09:42.039 --> 01:09:46.199 that went, oh uh, your buddy. 1248 01:09:46.279 --> 01:09:52.000 There was Doug Her, Bob Clark went down there. He 1249 01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:57.880 mentioned the q Adam then just well, well. 1250 01:09:58.520 --> 01:10:03.520 You're talking about the guy who doesn't want gunman. Yeah, 1251 01:10:03.920 --> 01:10:08.399 but wasn't Rob wasn't in Dallas this year. Are you 1252 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:10.359 sure it wasn't Joe over there? 1253 01:10:12.079 --> 01:10:16.079 Oh well, maybe it's him. He was probably talking it 1254 01:10:16.279 --> 01:10:19.560 on he's on Rock Clark. 1255 01:10:20.439 --> 01:10:23.520 Right, Yes, yes, okay, that's what happened. Well, you know, 1256 01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:25.399 Joe might have been there, but I didn't see him, 1257 01:10:26.079 --> 01:10:28.439 but I believe if he was there, I believe him. 1258 01:10:29.079 --> 01:10:32.520 But outside of us too reporting on it, you don't 1259 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.800 see an article. You don't see anybody else complaining about it. 1260 01:10:36.640 --> 01:10:38.800 It's just something that happened. I don't even I mean 1261 01:10:38.880 --> 01:10:41.159 I can't you know, I don't have access to Judy's 1262 01:10:41.199 --> 01:10:44.039 groups online or whatever. Maybe she said something about it, 1263 01:10:44.319 --> 01:10:47.640 but I didn't see anybody else report about it, nobody, 1264 01:10:48.680 --> 01:10:52.159 So you know, I don't know. If she was gonna 1265 01:10:52.279 --> 01:10:56.640 do it for publicity's sake, then she, you know, didn't use. 1266 01:10:56.560 --> 01:11:02.199 That under her ass. You're uffarts and look at the impact, 1267 01:11:02.279 --> 01:11:06.239 and one pisses me off. Look how Professor Mellon has. 1268 01:11:06.279 --> 01:11:12.279 Treated the JFK community community since this same incident. Just 1269 01:11:12.560 --> 01:11:17.359 happened to happen right before COVID with the same characters 1270 01:11:17.479 --> 01:11:18.720 Judy Baker. 1271 01:11:19.760 --> 01:11:21.800 And I tell you there is no Q and there 1272 01:11:21.840 --> 01:11:25.319 are no such people, so what the hell's going on there? Well, 1273 01:11:25.399 --> 01:11:26.479 attackled one of them. 1274 01:11:27.079 --> 01:11:29.399 I had borrowed one of them people and had a 1275 01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:31.039 little talkie poo with them. 1276 01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:33.840 Well maybe you should go with me this coming year, 1277 01:11:34.000 --> 01:11:39.439 Jimmy James, because I'm being invited back. And you know, 1278 01:11:39.560 --> 01:11:42.520 it seems like they've had a presence on the knoll 1279 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:47.359 every year now around the anniversary, so I don't know, 1280 01:11:47.640 --> 01:11:50.000 And that started happening, that's true. That is the one 1281 01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:52.960 thing that freaked Jone Mellon out and told her to 1282 01:11:53.680 --> 01:11:56.039 you know, it basically got her to finally say, I'm 1283 01:11:56.079 --> 01:11:58.960 not going to do any more conferences. And then when 1284 01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:03.199 she was invited this year to do a conference and 1285 01:12:03.279 --> 01:12:06.520 I'm not saying which conference invited her, but a conference 1286 01:12:06.600 --> 01:12:10.159 invited her to speak, and she told them that she 1287 01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:14.159 would do a presentation about how pointless conferences were. So, 1288 01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:18.039 you know, she was enraged by the QA non people. 1289 01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:21.800 But those people made the news because they were there 1290 01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:25.159 was a large group of them that year, and they 1291 01:12:25.239 --> 01:12:28.479 made you know, national news. Because they were, you know, 1292 01:12:28.640 --> 01:12:31.479 literally chanting out there on the noll for JFK. Junior 1293 01:12:31.560 --> 01:12:35.359 to show back up. The guys I saw had signs, 1294 01:12:37.159 --> 01:12:38.920 you know, but there wasn't a hundred of them. There 1295 01:12:39.000 --> 01:12:40.960 was barely enough of them to make that human chain 1296 01:12:41.039 --> 01:12:45.760 across Elm Street. So it's a small number that was 1297 01:12:45.840 --> 01:12:49.079 there this year. But yeah, but a couple of years 1298 01:12:49.079 --> 01:12:52.119 ago they were all like they occupied the noll pretty much. 1299 01:12:53.920 --> 01:12:57.439 Well this time next year, don't worry about it. 1300 01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:58.600 I'll take care of it. 1301 01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:02.960 I'll have my own plumbers group. We'll make sure that 1302 01:13:03.119 --> 01:13:04.399 this don't happen again. 1303 01:13:05.479 --> 01:13:07.560 All right, Well, look, send him my way. I know 1304 01:13:07.720 --> 01:13:10.079 exactly where to get caught me in donuts on a Friday. 1305 01:13:10.359 --> 01:13:12.840 So and we're going to try and make a special 1306 01:13:12.920 --> 01:13:15.560 restaurant deal with Lancer. We're going to see what we 1307 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.359 can do. So, you know, send you plumbers my way. 1308 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:27.600 I'll try and get him fed for cheap, all right. Anyway, Yeah, 1309 01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:31.960 So can you believe that though Diugenio wanted to, you know, like, 1310 01:13:32.119 --> 01:13:34.479 don't you know, boycott Lancer, he was trying to pull 1311 01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:35.479 off on Facebook. 1312 01:13:36.960 --> 01:13:38.279 I can't understand. 1313 01:13:38.439 --> 01:13:44.319 I'm sorry, I mean, yes, I appreciate Jim d Genio traditionally. 1314 01:13:45.800 --> 01:13:49.760 I'm sad to hear that he's going anti Semitic. 1315 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:52.439 If that is the case, I have a person I 1316 01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:54.840 heard him saying anything. 1317 01:13:55.239 --> 01:14:00.279 Well, he wasn't known how fetzer SOA's Leno Sana Hell, 1318 01:14:00.359 --> 01:14:03.640 they were so broadcasting together. 1319 01:14:03.880 --> 01:14:05.359 Well, now I've never. 1320 01:14:05.359 --> 01:14:10.319 Heard d Geno say anything, you know, even remotely. It 1321 01:14:10.479 --> 01:14:14.600 was the Jews falt, that's a fetcher thing that he started. 1322 01:14:15.199 --> 01:14:18.239 I want to stay back. I don't know. I came 1323 01:14:18.319 --> 01:14:18.720 back from. 1324 01:14:18.680 --> 01:14:23.520 Switzerland and it even started way back, probably twenty twelve. Yes, 1325 01:14:23.680 --> 01:14:27.279 little influences, little comments that would be made in his book, 1326 01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:29.880 his podcast or his blobs and things like that. 1327 01:14:30.119 --> 01:14:34.239 Well in twenty twelve, right in twenty twelve, I was 1328 01:14:34.640 --> 01:14:37.319 still listening to his show at the time, it was 1329 01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:40.600 called The Real Deal. Yeah, and I used to listen 1330 01:14:40.680 --> 01:14:42.920 to his JFK shows because I used to consume any 1331 01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:46.439 JFK show that showed up on the podcast, you know Landscape, right, 1332 01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.159 and I was listening to his shows. And he went 1333 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:53.119 from not believing you know that one guy who wrote 1334 01:14:53.159 --> 01:14:57.479 the whole you know, Israel is responsible for Kennedy's assassination. 1335 01:14:57.600 --> 01:15:00.880 It's the Masad that one guy who wrot wrote that book, right, 1336 01:15:01.800 --> 01:15:04.079 People keep bringing it up when they want to blame 1337 01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:08.159 the Jews for everything. And Fetzer had read it at 1338 01:15:08.199 --> 01:15:10.159 one time, or said he read it at one time 1339 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:14.239 and disagreed with it. And somewhere around twenty twelve he 1340 01:15:14.399 --> 01:15:17.600 started saying, you know, some of these things are starting 1341 01:15:17.680 --> 01:15:18.520 to make sense to me. 1342 01:15:19.239 --> 01:15:22.319 It was after he started popping off about nine to 1343 01:15:22.359 --> 01:15:26.479 eleven and that group that he was involved with, Mike 1344 01:15:26.600 --> 01:15:27.079 King and. 1345 01:15:29.239 --> 01:15:34.439 What is it, Dennis Semino and a few others, Larry Rivera. 1346 01:15:35.800 --> 01:15:37.640 You know, he started the Jews. 1347 01:15:37.920 --> 01:15:41.840 The Jews did it became his mantra during nine to eleven, 1348 01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:44.560 and from there it creeped into his JFK. 1349 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.840 Yeah, but it took a few years because it. 1350 01:15:47.880 --> 01:15:50.279 Took a while. It was slow, and it was gradual, 1351 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:52.000 and it wasn't a lot. It was just a comment 1352 01:15:52.119 --> 01:15:57.960 here or there. And then he got involved who is it? 1353 01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.199 Was it? Somebody wrote the. 1354 01:16:00.239 --> 01:16:03.600 Book about the Holocaust never happened and it was a 1355 01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:04.680 buddy of FETs. 1356 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.840 Okay, And I think I know the answer to this 1357 01:16:08.199 --> 01:16:12.960 because there's a guy that's been talking like this crazy 1358 01:16:13.119 --> 01:16:15.920 crap that Fetcher does for thirty years and. 1359 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:18.039 I think that's where he got it from. 1360 01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:20.840 And I think the guy that wrote the book you're 1361 01:16:20.880 --> 01:16:23.279 thinking of, is that crazy David Ike. 1362 01:16:23.880 --> 01:16:28.199 No, it's not David Ike, not I I well, I 1363 01:16:28.279 --> 01:16:31.039 can't think of the guy's name. I'll have to see. 1364 01:16:31.159 --> 01:16:32.720 I'll have to look in some of my old block 1365 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:35.520 posts in that. But I think that's where it came from. 1366 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:36.960 It started on the nine to. 1367 01:16:36.920 --> 01:16:39.479 Eleven side and then worked its way in and then 1368 01:16:39.560 --> 01:16:42.840 that's when Fetcher started hanging out with these people that 1369 01:16:43.000 --> 01:16:46.199 were claiming, yeah, the Holocaust never happened, and there's no 1370 01:16:46.359 --> 01:16:49.640 evidence of any sinide or anything being used. 1371 01:16:49.920 --> 01:16:54.239 It's no cyclone being that was for de lausing. You 1372 01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:55.079 know the numbers. 1373 01:16:55.279 --> 01:16:57.680 It's funny how six million comes up and all these 1374 01:16:57.760 --> 01:17:01.479 references even before the Holocaust, of victims. 1375 01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.239 Of this and that, and it was just it just 1376 01:17:03.319 --> 01:17:04.439 started snowballing. 1377 01:17:04.479 --> 01:17:08.439 It got bigger and bigger and bigger, and Fetcher started 1378 01:17:08.479 --> 01:17:11.960 getting into well, you know, you know, Fetcher has a 1379 01:17:12.039 --> 01:17:14.359 habit of making a statement. 1380 01:17:14.039 --> 01:17:18.920 In the form of a question, like instead of saying, 1381 01:17:19.359 --> 01:17:20.520 I don't believe that they. 1382 01:17:20.479 --> 01:17:24.920 Could have functionally gotten rid of six million people, as 1383 01:17:25.039 --> 01:17:27.000 just too many people to get rid of in that 1384 01:17:27.119 --> 01:17:31.760 amount of time into is it possible that six million 1385 01:17:31.840 --> 01:17:34.359 people were annihilated during the Holocaust? 1386 01:17:34.600 --> 01:17:35.319 Question mark? 1387 01:17:36.960 --> 01:17:38.840 He's in, Fetcher is real good for that making a 1388 01:17:38.880 --> 01:17:42.159 statement in the form of a question. Judith Baker and 1389 01:17:43.039 --> 01:17:45.479 Ed Haslam are the same way. You know, they put 1390 01:17:45.479 --> 01:17:47.279 a question mark behind something and then Clay Well, what 1391 01:17:47.439 --> 01:17:48.079 making a statement? 1392 01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:50.039 I was just asking the question. What was some serious 1393 01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:50.720 debate about it? 1394 01:17:50.920 --> 01:17:53.920 Okay, I figured it out. It is the book that 1395 01:17:54.079 --> 01:17:59.319 Fetzer read that he started following and believing in was 1396 01:17:59.399 --> 01:18:04.319 by Michael Collins Piper, and it was called Final Judgment. Okay, 1397 01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:09.000 and he is not the only guy. But since Michael 1398 01:18:09.039 --> 01:18:15.199 Collins Piper's death, Okay, many people had picked up on this. 1399 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:18.680 President Kennedy was killed not because of the CIA, not 1400 01:18:18.840 --> 01:18:21.600 because of the military intelligence in the US, but it 1401 01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:23.439 is the Masade who had him killed. 1402 01:18:24.079 --> 01:18:26.119 Yeah, because he was going to make Israel give up 1403 01:18:26.119 --> 01:18:28.840 their nukes. And I'm sitting here thinking, like Kennedy could 1404 01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:31.720 do that. You know, the Israelis to this day have 1405 01:18:31.880 --> 01:18:34.520 not admitted that they have. Well the first time, the 1406 01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:36.399 hell is Kennedy going to make them give them up? 1407 01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:38.600 Well, here's the thing. The first trouble with that whole 1408 01:18:38.840 --> 01:18:41.840 you know, giving up the nukes or not get the bomb. 1409 01:18:42.520 --> 01:18:46.199 Theory is that, honestly, Israel already had the bomb by 1410 01:18:46.279 --> 01:18:49.880 the time Kennedy was assassinated. Yeah, there was nothing to prevent. 1411 01:18:50.239 --> 01:18:53.760 Now do they admit it, not necessarily, but we know 1412 01:18:53.920 --> 01:19:01.560 this already. Factually, they they had great, great espionage and 1413 01:19:01.720 --> 01:19:04.199 they picked up on this stuff before anybody shared it 1414 01:19:04.279 --> 01:19:07.520 with them freely, So you know they were able to 1415 01:19:07.560 --> 01:19:07.760 do that. 1416 01:19:08.279 --> 01:19:12.960 Read I've read a lot of documents, and I'm telling 1417 01:19:13.000 --> 01:19:20.479 you Jesus James Jesus Ankleton was working to give them 1418 01:19:22.920 --> 01:19:27.039 the information. So I disagreeably, I don't think they got 1419 01:19:27.319 --> 01:19:30.640 the bomb until the late sixties early seventies. 1420 01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:37.159 And that was what James Jesus Ankleton did. Why Israel 1421 01:19:37.239 --> 01:19:41.319 to this day revere him and apparently Masade has a 1422 01:19:41.880 --> 01:19:43.039 shrine to the guy. 1423 01:19:43.600 --> 01:19:46.800 Literally, Yeah, Well do the US liberty happen? 1424 01:19:47.439 --> 01:19:49.119 Well, that's like what sixty seven. 1425 01:19:50.359 --> 01:19:53.479 Sixty six, sixty seven and six up there. 1426 01:19:54.000 --> 01:19:55.079 I think I think they. 1427 01:19:55.119 --> 01:19:56.319 Hit the bomb before then. 1428 01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:00.560 They did. I'm telling you they did, and we know 1429 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:05.079 this from other intelligence reports from other nations. We know 1430 01:20:05.199 --> 01:20:06.279 they already had it by then. 1431 01:20:06.880 --> 01:20:11.039 Well, see when did d'mona go into service, Demona nucular site. 1432 01:20:11.840 --> 01:20:16.600 Let's see USS liberty. When did this occur? Let me 1433 01:20:16.720 --> 01:20:17.600 just double check on that. 1434 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:19.880 In sixty seven? Yeah, I just looked it up. 1435 01:20:21.199 --> 01:20:23.279 I just I blurted that out off the top of 1436 01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:26.800 my head. But apparently on June eight, nineteen sixty seven. Yes, Okay, 1437 01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:31.720 I just want to make sure because because I don't 1438 01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:34.560 want to misquote or something, but there it is. Yeah, 1439 01:20:34.560 --> 01:20:38.640 it was sixty seven that that happened. And my understanding 1440 01:20:38.760 --> 01:20:41.319 is they had it by then. You know, even if 1441 01:20:41.319 --> 01:20:43.520 you go with some of the controversial claims, like again 1442 01:20:43.760 --> 01:20:47.439 Joan Mellon's book Blood in the Water, you check out 1443 01:20:47.520 --> 01:20:50.560 the whole issue with what was going on between Israel 1444 01:20:50.640 --> 01:20:53.399 and Egypt at that time, you kind of have to 1445 01:20:53.479 --> 01:20:55.199 have Sorry. 1446 01:20:55.439 --> 01:20:59.840 I've read that, I've read the documents. They're I'm very fair. 1447 01:21:00.560 --> 01:21:03.399 Why and the how was Ankleton working so hard with 1448 01:21:03.600 --> 01:21:05.840 Massad to give them the materials then? 1449 01:21:05.960 --> 01:21:08.600 If they already had it now it could be. 1450 01:21:08.640 --> 01:21:11.880 The United States before that just flat out gave them 1451 01:21:11.920 --> 01:21:14.680 a bomb and said here, don't talk about it. 1452 01:21:15.199 --> 01:21:18.039 Well, you could easily see that happening during the Cold War. 1453 01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:21.960 I would say that that's a very good supposition, Jimmy James. 1454 01:21:22.039 --> 01:21:23.840 But here's the thing. I'm not making a claim as 1455 01:21:23.880 --> 01:21:25.720 to how they got it before that. I'll tell you 1456 01:21:25.840 --> 01:21:28.319 that they had great espionage and they were able to 1457 01:21:28.359 --> 01:21:30.920 spy on US plenty, and they did very well with 1458 01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:35.600 it almost immediately, you know. But however they got it, 1459 01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:37.359 whether it was handed to him or not, here's the 1460 01:21:37.439 --> 01:21:40.199 relevant point. Kennedy wasn't going to be able to prevent 1461 01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:41.800 them having something they already had. 1462 01:21:42.880 --> 01:21:45.680 Here was my only point about And this is according 1463 01:21:45.760 --> 01:21:49.399 to the Wilson Center. Okay, the US government first learned 1464 01:21:49.399 --> 01:21:52.640 the Visiel secret secret nuclear partment, the motive from an 1465 01:21:52.640 --> 01:21:56.159 American corporate official talking to US diplomats in television. 1466 01:21:55.720 --> 01:21:58.800 During the mid summer of nineteen sixty There you go 1467 01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:02.159 was up and running afore. 1468 01:22:04.119 --> 01:22:06.840 So, but there you go with that facility. And all 1469 01:22:06.880 --> 01:22:09.600 I'm saying is that by the time November twenty second, 1470 01:22:09.680 --> 01:22:12.880 nineteen sixty three rolls around, if they're killing Kennedy, so 1471 01:22:13.000 --> 01:22:15.520 he doesn't stop them from getting the bomb, it's kind 1472 01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:18.640 of pointless because they already had it. I'm telling you, 1473 01:22:18.640 --> 01:22:20.560 I've had plenty of indicators with this. I don't think 1474 01:22:20.600 --> 01:22:24.880 anybody would argue realistically, they already had it. That's all 1475 01:22:24.920 --> 01:22:27.600 I'm saying. I don't even speak to exactly how they 1476 01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.920 got it, or if it didn't come from multiple sources, 1477 01:22:31.199 --> 01:22:34.680 or if it wasn't that they needed some more materials 1478 01:22:34.800 --> 01:22:37.159 or whatever, and Angleton wanted them to have more materials 1479 01:22:37.199 --> 01:22:40.279 so they could build more bombs or whatever. They already 1480 01:22:40.359 --> 01:22:43.479 had the bomb by then, That's all I'm saying. 1481 01:22:45.159 --> 01:22:50.079 I disagree that they had the bomb, but I in 1482 01:22:50.199 --> 01:22:53.920 no way think that Massade, Israel, the Jews or any 1483 01:22:55.000 --> 01:22:58.439 of them had anything to do with the JFK assassination. 1484 01:22:59.279 --> 01:23:01.680 Yeah, I agree, and I agree with you there. 1485 01:23:02.199 --> 01:23:05.640 Just like Africa, it's like Jim dg Know, like I 1486 01:23:05.880 --> 01:23:11.279 was going to say, I just don't get his Okay, 1487 01:23:11.600 --> 01:23:15.840 He's done a lot of great work, Like I started 1488 01:23:15.880 --> 01:23:20.640 to say, I do appreciate the things that he's done, especially. 1489 01:23:21.960 --> 01:23:25.359 With Oliver Stone as far as you. 1490 01:23:25.439 --> 01:23:33.760 Know, working to get the doctors released, but he I 1491 01:23:33.800 --> 01:23:38.760 don't know what the anyone that goes off of his official. 1492 01:23:40.800 --> 01:23:41.520 Well, that's it. 1493 01:23:41.880 --> 01:23:46.920 I guess he thinks he is the official caretaker of 1494 01:23:47.039 --> 01:23:50.960 the one True Pilgrim Way, and anytime anyone writes a 1495 01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:53.399 book that says anything he doesn't. 1496 01:23:53.079 --> 01:23:56.039 Agree with, he goes off his way to write an 1497 01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.800 attack article. It's the same kind of thing as trying 1498 01:23:59.840 --> 01:24:03.800 to protests this conference. That's why when you said someone 1499 01:24:03.960 --> 01:24:07.159 was doing that, as like, well, that's not a hard guess. 1500 01:24:07.800 --> 01:24:11.159 Yeah the way it is, Yeah, fair enough, But it's 1501 01:24:11.199 --> 01:24:14.199 weird to me because you know, again, he's supposed to 1502 01:24:14.279 --> 01:24:16.920 be mister liberal I thought not too long ago, right, 1503 01:24:17.800 --> 01:24:20.680 And if he was, then he wouldn't be out to 1504 01:24:20.800 --> 01:24:24.079 silence people, and he also wouldn't be screaming about the Jews. 1505 01:24:24.159 --> 01:24:29.920 But apparently he has. And you know again, I was 1506 01:24:29.960 --> 01:24:33.560 told that Brent Holland got pretty upset even with one 1507 01:24:33.600 --> 01:24:36.159 of his presentations. And Brent Holland used to be somebody 1508 01:24:36.159 --> 01:24:39.319 who was, you know, plenty friendly with Jim, and other 1509 01:24:39.359 --> 01:24:42.520 people have been plenty friendly with Jim. But I don't 1510 01:24:42.520 --> 01:24:46.239 remember Fetzer and Jim ever getting along. However, here's what's 1511 01:24:46.319 --> 01:24:49.640 interesting is that you know, Fetzer didn't know. 1512 01:24:49.800 --> 01:24:52.359 I thought the Geneo and Fetzer just really didn't like 1513 01:24:52.439 --> 01:24:52.800 each other. 1514 01:24:52.960 --> 01:24:55.520 No, no, no, That's what I'm saying is because somebody 1515 01:24:56.000 --> 01:24:59.880 earlier said that, you know that Fetzer and Jim were 1516 01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:03.239 you know, at some point working together. The only common 1517 01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:06.760 link you have here is len o'sanik. Before he had 1518 01:25:06.840 --> 01:25:11.000 Jim Deugenio as his regular go to JFK guy, he 1519 01:25:11.199 --> 01:25:13.960 had Jim Fetzer as his regular go to JFK guy 1520 01:25:14.800 --> 01:25:17.199 back in like two thousand and one, two thousand and two, 1521 01:25:18.199 --> 01:25:21.920 when len was first starting black Op Radio. Fetzer was 1522 01:25:22.000 --> 01:25:26.199 there until he went kind of nuts and started, you know, 1523 01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:28.760 buying into Judy Baker and all these other things, and 1524 01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:31.720 then when kind of backed away I mean for the 1525 01:25:32.039 --> 01:25:34.960 beginning of black Op Review excuse me, black Op Radio, 1526 01:25:35.039 --> 01:25:37.840 but Judy Baker was actually a guest on there at 1527 01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:38.479 one point too. 1528 01:25:38.760 --> 01:25:40.960 Yeah, there's a lot of people to back away from 1529 01:25:41.000 --> 01:25:43.880 Fetcher when he started hugging onto Judy, right, I. 1530 01:25:43.920 --> 01:25:48.520 Mean, because of that and also Judy those two things, 1531 01:25:48.680 --> 01:25:51.119 and then screaming that the Zeppruder film has all been 1532 01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:55.560 fabricated and he knows it's a fake because whatever, and 1533 01:25:55.800 --> 01:25:58.079 you know, and all these things. I mean, I've even 1534 01:25:58.199 --> 01:26:01.279 literally seen him give a presentation where you know, even 1535 01:26:01.319 --> 01:26:04.039 though this is a blurry videotape of the driver looking 1536 01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:06.600 like he might have shot Kennedy, it's still true that 1537 01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:10.079 the driver shot Kennedy. You know, according to jim because 1538 01:26:10.079 --> 01:26:13.680 they removed those frames from the Subbruder film, there's. 1539 01:26:13.439 --> 01:26:17.000 An fyi for Jimmy, apparently that the monal reactor became 1540 01:26:17.079 --> 01:26:18.600 operational in sixty two. 1541 01:26:18.960 --> 01:26:24.840 And they are projecting, and this is from an engineering organization. 1542 01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:29.920 They're saying that by sixty six, Israel had reportedly produced 1543 01:26:29.920 --> 01:26:31.079 his first nuclear weapon. 1544 01:26:33.720 --> 01:26:36.119 But here we go again. They'll be pete. What the 1545 01:26:36.279 --> 01:26:39.159 public is able to see and what the reality is 1546 01:26:39.560 --> 01:26:42.880 may not necessarily comport with one another. Let's never Yeah. 1547 01:26:42.920 --> 01:26:45.319 I mean, the Friends held them, they helped them build 1548 01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:48.279 the Moona and got them on their nuclear program going. 1549 01:26:48.479 --> 01:26:52.720 So you know, once the thing was operational, they if 1550 01:26:52.760 --> 01:26:55.840 they if Demona was operational in sixty two, they could 1551 01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.039 have had a new a warhead by sixty three. 1552 01:26:59.319 --> 01:27:02.840 Right, So there's nothing that Kennedy was gonna do unless 1553 01:27:02.880 --> 01:27:04.880 we were going to go in and bomb Demona, Right, 1554 01:27:05.039 --> 01:27:07.079 I mean even not only. 1555 01:27:06.960 --> 01:27:08.520 That, but you know, they make it sound like, you know, 1556 01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.560 Kennedy had, you know, really had issues with Israel and 1557 01:27:12.680 --> 01:27:15.520 this and that, you think about it, even during the 1558 01:27:15.600 --> 01:27:20.279 Sixth Day War because during the US liberty we didn't 1559 01:27:20.439 --> 01:27:24.520 consider Israel and an ally they were an independent nation 1560 01:27:24.680 --> 01:27:27.000 that we didn't really have anything to do with. It 1561 01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:31.479 was after the Sixth Day War when we started working 1562 01:27:31.520 --> 01:27:32.720 together with the Israelis. 1563 01:27:32.840 --> 01:27:35.560 So even at that time, you know, what could Kennedy do. 1564 01:27:35.720 --> 01:27:37.520 That's like telling France they'd have to give up their 1565 01:27:37.600 --> 01:27:40.199 news or telling Great Britain you'll have to give up 1566 01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:40.600 your nukes. 1567 01:27:40.640 --> 01:27:42.319 What are you only country that you know should have? 1568 01:27:42.439 --> 01:27:44.720 The Russia's got them. We can't hear anything about that, 1569 01:27:44.880 --> 01:27:47.159 but you got to give yourself. Israel would have flipped 1570 01:27:47.159 --> 01:27:49.840 them the finger and told them to hit the trail. 1571 01:27:50.319 --> 01:27:53.960 Well either way, I can't see placing any known Massad 1572 01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:56.359 person or anything else. And they try and do this. 1573 01:27:56.560 --> 01:27:59.119 Oh Meyer Lansky was the head of the Jewish Mopian. 1574 01:27:59.199 --> 01:28:02.760 It's the Jewish Tapia along with Massad that killed Kennedy. 1575 01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:06.720 And I'm like, you guys are way overreaching, you know, 1576 01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.079 But it all started with that Michael Collins Piper character. 1577 01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:16.560 Really, now here's a fascinating thing that I really wish 1578 01:28:16.720 --> 01:28:21.640 Oliver Stone would have put in his film Nixon. I've 1579 01:28:21.720 --> 01:28:26.000 only heard about this in church a long time ago. 1580 01:28:27.279 --> 01:28:28.600 It just so happens. 1581 01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:35.760 You remember his character or his mother's character played by Mary. 1582 01:28:37.960 --> 01:28:40.760 Well Anyways, the lady from Back to the Future. You 1583 01:28:40.840 --> 01:28:41.359 remember her? 1584 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:45.359 She yeah, Mary Steve Virgin Yeah, yeah. 1585 01:28:46.560 --> 01:28:50.000 Boy she did good, Yes she did. You remember how 1586 01:28:50.119 --> 01:28:57.000 they talked even ye, well done shoes, hardcore. 1587 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:59.399 Quicker, Absolutely true. 1588 01:29:01.479 --> 01:29:02.920 And it's what's. 1589 01:29:02.800 --> 01:29:07.199 Interesting that I heard this from a missionary long time ago, 1590 01:29:08.239 --> 01:29:09.199 fifty years ago. 1591 01:29:10.720 --> 01:29:16.960 He was talking about how once when Nixon's when Nixon 1592 01:29:17.199 --> 01:29:23.560 was a child, his mother came to him and said, Richard, 1593 01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:30.479 the Lord has spoken to me. He has said that someday, somehow. 1594 01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:33.640 You are going to be in a position where you 1595 01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:37.239 are going to be able to help the Jews, and 1596 01:29:37.399 --> 01:29:38.640 you need to help them. 1597 01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:41.279 And that stuck with me. 1598 01:29:42.520 --> 01:29:46.039 And Nixon's why you've heard him speak. 1599 01:29:46.840 --> 01:29:51.800 He called Jews horrible names. Even that crazy Henry Kissinger, 1600 01:29:52.359 --> 01:29:56.319 a so called Jude, was saying, do not help Israel. 1601 01:29:57.079 --> 01:29:58.600 And yet Nixon. 1602 01:29:58.279 --> 01:30:02.600 About back of what his mother had said, and that's 1603 01:30:02.720 --> 01:30:07.319 what I ultimately allowed him to assist his ruin that 1604 01:30:08.560 --> 01:30:09.119 sixth day. 1605 01:30:09.199 --> 01:30:09.439 Ward. 1606 01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:13.359 Okay, well, I'm gonna put you on hold, Jimmy, because 1607 01:30:13.520 --> 01:30:16.399 I just realized I've had callers holding a long time 1608 01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.920 and was not looking at the board because nobody else 1609 01:30:19.000 --> 01:30:21.399 was calling in. So let me get them on and 1610 01:30:22.359 --> 01:30:25.720 your live brand new caller. I'm sorry for the long hold. 1611 01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:30.159 What's on your mind tonight, No worries, It's Danny. 1612 01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:32.960 I'm glad you had a great trip out in Dallas. 1613 01:30:35.159 --> 01:30:36.039 And then I would like to. 1614 01:30:37.720 --> 01:30:41.199 Add on to to VP talking about that Georgia Georgia 1615 01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:41.840 Tech game. 1616 01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:46.279 Do you remember there in the fourth quarter as Georgia 1617 01:30:46.399 --> 01:30:48.680 Tech was was driving, there was still ahead. 1618 01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:51.119 Do you remember that fumble BPTE. 1619 01:30:51.479 --> 01:30:55.319 Oh yes, okay, yes, did you Did you see the 1620 01:30:55.399 --> 01:30:57.720 review on that If you look at the definition of 1621 01:30:57.840 --> 01:31:02.159 targeting that was that was the target. The Georgia Tech player, 1622 01:31:02.359 --> 01:31:04.960 i mean the Georgia player led with his helmet that 1623 01:31:05.079 --> 01:31:08.279 knocked that ball out and it was a no call. 1624 01:31:09.119 --> 01:31:10.439 And then they. 1625 01:31:11.760 --> 01:31:15.960 I've heard some discussions about that because he led with 1626 01:31:16.079 --> 01:31:18.520 his helmet, but he didn't. 1627 01:31:18.840 --> 01:31:19.720 It wasn't helmet the. 1628 01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:23.439 Helmet contact, and they I don't know how they couldn't 1629 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:25.159 call it like speary. You know, they used to call 1630 01:31:25.239 --> 01:31:29.319 it speary when you gave the helmet in somebody's body parts. 1631 01:31:30.880 --> 01:31:33.880 But there were several no calls in that game. They 1632 01:31:34.000 --> 01:31:37.479 pretty much let those guys play. I'm surprised there weren't 1633 01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:39.720 more calls, especially when it came to interference. 1634 01:31:41.079 --> 01:31:43.039 Some of them was just blatant. They monked the guy 1635 01:31:43.159 --> 01:31:45.319 gave him his wallet back before he got off off 1636 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:48.479 the ground. But they played hard. That was a hard 1637 01:31:48.560 --> 01:31:54.039 funk game. Georgia Tech wanted to upset him so bad, Danny. 1638 01:31:54.039 --> 01:31:55.840 I'm going to bring you back shortly because we got 1639 01:31:55.880 --> 01:31:57.680 another caller. I want to try and get on the air. 1640 01:31:57.760 --> 01:32:00.039 But anybody shocked him. When I was playing pop I 1641 01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:03.800 wander football, I probably got called for spearing, uh more 1642 01:32:03.920 --> 01:32:09.720 often than any other penalty anyway. Yeah, probably he's taking 1643 01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:12.960 some blows to the head. Sure, so uh eight six 1644 01:32:13.039 --> 01:32:16.640 fibe area code you're on? And uh, what's happening? What's 1645 01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:17.239 on your mind? 1646 01:32:19.439 --> 01:32:20.800 All right, Chuck, this is Harlan. 1647 01:32:20.840 --> 01:32:23.039 I might pull over to get my yamaka and tow 1648 01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:26.399 it on, you know, all right? Hey, hey do you 1649 01:32:26.560 --> 01:32:26.840 do you? 1650 01:32:28.800 --> 01:32:29.039 Yeah? 1651 01:32:29.399 --> 01:32:34.079 Yeah, you know, I'd announce how anti Semitism real imagine 1652 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:35.800 ramplaid excellent. 1653 01:32:36.600 --> 01:32:38.600 If you were a good Jew, you'd have a yamaka 1654 01:32:38.760 --> 01:32:40.840 on underneath your trucker's cap. 1655 01:32:41.640 --> 01:32:43.439 Oh is that so? Yeah? 1656 01:32:43.640 --> 01:32:43.840 Yeah? 1657 01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:45.760 Is that the order you have to put that in? 1658 01:32:45.960 --> 01:32:46.079 Now? 1659 01:32:46.159 --> 01:32:49.039 Where is that officially noted? That the trucker's cap must 1660 01:32:49.079 --> 01:32:50.800 go on atop the yamica. 1661 01:32:52.199 --> 01:32:54.479 Well, because you can't put the yamaca on top of 1662 01:32:54.560 --> 01:32:56.720 the trucker's cap. It's just common sense. 1663 01:32:56.920 --> 01:32:59.520 Okay, sorry, I guess it is. I never had to 1664 01:32:59.600 --> 01:33:00.880 deal with the issues. Go ahead. 1665 01:33:01.039 --> 01:33:03.239 It's like if you had a choice between putting on 1666 01:33:03.279 --> 01:33:05.399 a bathing cap and then a football helmet. Would you 1667 01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:07.439 put on a bathing cap and the football helmet or 1668 01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:09.600 would you put on a football helmet and try to 1669 01:33:09.680 --> 01:33:10.920 stretch the bathing. 1670 01:33:10.680 --> 01:33:11.239 Cap over it. 1671 01:33:11.479 --> 01:33:14.720 It depends on what your level of style is. My brother, good, 1672 01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:15.760 go ahead, Harlem. 1673 01:33:18.520 --> 01:33:21.079 It might not be a good idea to be running around, 1674 01:33:21.319 --> 01:33:23.960 you know, for yamica and somebody chunched out so many 1675 01:33:24.319 --> 01:33:25.840 folks we got from the Middle East. 1676 01:33:25.920 --> 01:33:28.000 You know, now there's out here and there. 1677 01:33:28.960 --> 01:33:30.880 Put a propeller on top of it, and they'll think 1678 01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:32.680 it's just a beanie from the fifties. 1679 01:33:32.840 --> 01:33:35.560 Yeah maybe, yeah, true, yeah. 1680 01:33:35.520 --> 01:33:36.079 Yeah yeah. 1681 01:33:36.119 --> 01:33:38.840 But you know, for the records, you know, I'm not Jewish, 1682 01:33:38.960 --> 01:33:41.239 because if it was, I wouldn't met her work, and 1683 01:33:41.800 --> 01:33:43.800 I'd be smart enough. You know, I've done found me 1684 01:33:43.840 --> 01:33:45.760 at griff to just set back to the house. 1685 01:33:47.840 --> 01:33:51.600 Well, sundown Friday to sundown Saturday. Right, no work, isn't 1686 01:33:51.640 --> 01:33:53.199 that the way? That is? Something like that? 1687 01:33:54.199 --> 01:33:55.800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1688 01:33:56.680 --> 01:33:58.600 Anyway, I got a few points I. 1689 01:33:58.680 --> 01:34:01.640 Want to throw out here, so I can't stay the 1690 01:34:01.920 --> 01:34:02.720 rest of the show. 1691 01:34:03.000 --> 01:34:04.359 I've been over on the two lane. 1692 01:34:05.479 --> 01:34:09.960 But one thing that I want to mention forhy I 1693 01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:10.479 move on. 1694 01:34:10.600 --> 01:34:12.000 To Chris Graves. 1695 01:34:13.359 --> 01:34:17.479 Is Jimmy and you all mentioned something other about the 1696 01:34:17.640 --> 01:34:21.399 shooting from the I've been listening for probably about ten minutes, 1697 01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:23.720 the driver shooting and. 1698 01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:25.359 What Fetcher said and stuff. 1699 01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:29.479 You know, Bill Cooper had that video way back when. 1700 01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:35.199 That supposedly you know, showed it. I've actually seen the video. 1701 01:34:35.399 --> 01:34:39.520 It's probably been got ten years ago. 1702 01:34:39.920 --> 01:34:42.000 I got one of those vhss in the mail in 1703 01:34:42.119 --> 01:34:45.880 nineteen eighty eight or eighty nine, Harlan, So I know, 1704 01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:48.159 go ahead, and. 1705 01:34:49.800 --> 01:34:53.119 You know I've got it on good account from somebody 1706 01:34:53.199 --> 01:34:55.119 that knowed him that you know, eventually he had to 1707 01:34:55.119 --> 01:34:55.880 get away from it. 1708 01:34:55.960 --> 01:34:58.439 And you know, Bill even figured that it was bullshit. 1709 01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:01.720 You know, it looked like I was kind of described 1710 01:35:01.760 --> 01:35:02.119 it as the. 1711 01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:06.359 Pink Panther, you know, style of a cartoon armed Maddy 1712 01:35:06.479 --> 01:35:08.760 in there, like somebody was reaching out behind, you know, 1713 01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.119 a curtain on a cartoon or something is what it 1714 01:35:11.199 --> 01:35:14.159 looked like to me, and was very fuzzled and very 1715 01:35:14.199 --> 01:35:15.199 shitty on top of that. 1716 01:35:15.479 --> 01:35:17.600 That's just my opinion what I member saying of it, 1717 01:35:18.600 --> 01:35:20.239 you know, but. 1718 01:35:22.079 --> 01:35:25.359 Something I will mentioning real quick and I'll get out 1719 01:35:25.359 --> 01:35:28.079 of the way. Unless you guys got any questions, I'm 1720 01:35:28.119 --> 01:35:31.119 gonna count tho out hear what wanted to know? You know, 1721 01:35:31.560 --> 01:35:34.560 folks that's listening that you know knows Chris Graves that 1722 01:35:34.720 --> 01:35:37.760 used to be here on No Chilly Effect. I had 1723 01:35:37.800 --> 01:35:41.199 a show with Chuck. He had a bad wreck sometime 1724 01:35:41.319 --> 01:35:44.720 ufin the last week. He flipped the car over and 1725 01:35:44.880 --> 01:35:48.079 rolled it a few times, and he's messed up pretty bad. 1726 01:35:49.439 --> 01:35:51.479 So you know, if if anybody out there wants to 1727 01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:53.439 say a prayer for hear him. I'm sure you know, 1728 01:35:53.560 --> 01:35:56.039 he really appreciated. I've not had a change to talk 1729 01:35:56.119 --> 01:35:59.800 to him yet because I just found this out, basically, yes, 1730 01:36:00.720 --> 01:36:03.239 And I've talked to a few people that has talked 1731 01:36:03.279 --> 01:36:06.079 to him. And by the time you know today that 1732 01:36:06.520 --> 01:36:08.560 I kind of got the phone number and everything, it 1733 01:36:08.720 --> 01:36:12.680 was already almost eight o'clock. In most of these hospitals 1734 01:36:13.479 --> 01:36:16.439 used to they didn't either like or would let him 1735 01:36:16.479 --> 01:36:20.880 by Kyle after seven or eight, and he's in Massachusetts, 1736 01:36:21.000 --> 01:36:23.840 so you know he's in the Eastern time though, but 1737 01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.279 it sounds like, you know, he is messed up, you know. 1738 01:36:26.399 --> 01:36:27.000 Pretty bad. 1739 01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:34.359 Broke back, pens in his arms, nose messed up. I've 1740 01:36:34.399 --> 01:36:37.840 got a message here that you know, kind of told 1741 01:36:37.880 --> 01:36:38.119 me what. 1742 01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:41.239 Most of it was. Let me see if I can 1743 01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:43.279 go back. Well, Harlan, why don't you do me a 1744 01:36:43.359 --> 01:36:45.119 favor real quick? Why do you do me a favor 1745 01:36:45.199 --> 01:36:46.880 and send me that number? He was trying to get 1746 01:36:46.920 --> 01:36:48.960 in touch with me recently, and I kind of wasn't 1747 01:36:49.359 --> 01:36:52.439 listening to him, but I certainly don't wish him any 1748 01:36:52.479 --> 01:36:55.279 pain or anything. And why don't you email me that 1749 01:36:55.439 --> 01:37:02.239 number so I can call him over the week? Can uh? Okay? 1750 01:37:02.239 --> 01:37:05.039 Because he has lost his phone from what I understand 1751 01:37:06.199 --> 01:37:10.079 that I felt him, but the message here. He's in 1752 01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:16.439 the Boston Medical Center. He's alive, but badly damaged. Brain damage, 1753 01:37:16.600 --> 01:37:20.119 nine crack ribs, screws in his left arm, nose shattered, 1754 01:37:20.199 --> 01:37:24.439 lower back broken, the bones of one of his eye 1755 01:37:24.520 --> 01:37:31.520 sockets has smashed, and he's lost his cell phone. That's 1756 01:37:31.600 --> 01:37:35.720 pretty much you know, I know he's fussing going around 1757 01:37:35.760 --> 01:37:39.439 the curve and lost control and you know, turned it. 1758 01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:41.560 Over from what I understand. What's my to me on 1759 01:37:41.600 --> 01:37:45.840 the phone today. Well, that's a terrible thing, and I 1760 01:37:45.960 --> 01:37:49.159 certainly I hope everybody will say a prayer for him, 1761 01:37:49.199 --> 01:37:52.560 for sure. Definitely. Yeah, I looked. 1762 01:37:53.760 --> 01:37:56.840 I looked over on his Twitter page. It's at Sea 1763 01:37:56.920 --> 01:37:59.920 Graves mask guy. Go down his page a little bit. 1764 01:38:00.039 --> 01:38:03.239 He's got a cash app and a PayPal there. 1765 01:38:03.359 --> 01:38:05.680 But anybody, you know, wants to help him out. 1766 01:38:05.720 --> 01:38:07.119 But I don't know if he'll be able to get it, 1767 01:38:07.239 --> 01:38:11.359 you know, anytime soon, especially if it's uh, if he's 1768 01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:14.600 lost his phone, right until he's able you know, to 1769 01:38:14.640 --> 01:38:17.039 get hold of another phone or another way to get online. 1770 01:38:17.920 --> 01:38:20.840 But yeah, I would I would wait on that. I 1771 01:38:20.920 --> 01:38:22.880 would wait on that because you don't know if somebody 1772 01:38:22.920 --> 01:38:24.520 else got a hold of his phone, you know what 1773 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:29.079 I mean? Uh yeah, you know, and sometimes we're automatically 1774 01:38:29.159 --> 01:38:34.199 signed into stuff. So I wouldn't suggest that just yet, Harlan. Yeah, 1775 01:38:34.359 --> 01:38:36.319 maybe waiting until we get that's what That's what I'm 1776 01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:37.119 That's what I'm. 1777 01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:40.399 Saying, you know, I mean, I wouldn't do it, right now, 1778 01:38:41.399 --> 01:38:43.520 but you know, we find out a little bit more 1779 01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:45.800 in the next week or something other you know, it 1780 01:38:45.960 --> 01:38:48.000 might be you know, nice to help him out, but you. 1781 01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:51.199 Know I've not seen him anything because you know. 1782 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:53.479 Here again, I'm like you, I hate to send something 1783 01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:56.119 to somebody else is gonna get or he's not gonna 1784 01:38:56.159 --> 01:38:58.000 be able to get back a hope of well. 1785 01:38:57.920 --> 01:39:01.119 Right, like I said, didn't find his fast or whatever. Right, Well, 1786 01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:03.279 like I said, if you can get me that phone number, 1787 01:39:03.319 --> 01:39:05.520 I'll give them a call over the weekend because obviously 1788 01:39:05.520 --> 01:39:07.239 he ain't getting out of the hospital over the weekend. 1789 01:39:08.199 --> 01:39:10.479 Uh and uh, and see if I can get an 1790 01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:12.680 update on it. And if not, you can always update me. 1791 01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:15.239 Let me know what's happening, and I'll be more than 1792 01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:17.479 happy to put out that message when we know it'll 1793 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:18.840 be secure, you know what I mean. 1794 01:39:20.600 --> 01:39:22.760 Yeah, I'm will try to see what I can find 1795 01:39:22.960 --> 01:39:26.159 out tomorrow evening, and I'll try. 1796 01:39:26.000 --> 01:39:30.800 To make a post on Twitter. Okay, a real harlem. 1797 01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:35.840 All right, Well, just please message me, because I don't 1798 01:39:35.880 --> 01:39:38.800 always see everybody's posts and all that. Just message me 1799 01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:40.399 directly and I'll let people know too. 1800 01:39:40.800 --> 01:39:46.000 Okay, Okay, Well, well I'll send you to stuff over 1801 01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:49.479 Twitter because okay, I might be able to find your email, 1802 01:39:49.520 --> 01:39:50.640 and all. 1803 01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:52.159 Right, whichever way you want to go, if you want 1804 01:39:52.159 --> 01:39:53.840 to send me a direct message on there, I'll take 1805 01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:55.439 it there. You know how to get in touch with me, 1806 01:39:55.600 --> 01:40:00.319 So whichever way you want, Okay, Okay, well up. 1807 01:40:00.199 --> 01:40:02.479 Out there and let you guys go because I need 1808 01:40:02.600 --> 01:40:04.800 to get on down the road and you just got 1809 01:40:04.880 --> 01:40:08.359 about fifteen minutes left, and I'm sure that everybody else 1810 01:40:08.399 --> 01:40:10.479 has got, you know, more to talk about one out, 1811 01:40:11.359 --> 01:40:12.359 no problem. 1812 01:40:12.079 --> 01:40:14.239 But appreciate you giving us that update. I had no 1813 01:40:14.359 --> 01:40:16.520 idea about any of this, so it's the first I'm 1814 01:40:16.560 --> 01:40:19.520 hearing about it. And uh yeah, do do private message 1815 01:40:19.560 --> 01:40:25.319 me the information so we can find out what's going on. Okay, okay, 1816 01:40:25.680 --> 01:40:30.520 thank you, all right, Harlan. I appreciate you anyway. So 1817 01:40:30.720 --> 01:40:32.680 I'm gonna go back to Danny real quick before we 1818 01:40:32.760 --> 01:40:35.079 probably jump back to Jimmy James and let him finish 1819 01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:37.039 out the show because we only got, like you said, 1820 01:40:37.039 --> 01:40:41.920 about fifteen minutes left here. But anyway, let's see, Danny. 1821 01:40:42.720 --> 01:40:44.159 I didn't mean to cut you off quick, but I 1822 01:40:44.239 --> 01:40:46.920 wanted to get around everybody, So go ahead. If there's 1823 01:40:46.960 --> 01:40:49.159 something else you want to talk about outside of that game, 1824 01:40:49.239 --> 01:40:50.880 or you want to keep talking about that game. It's 1825 01:40:50.960 --> 01:40:51.239 up to you. 1826 01:40:51.359 --> 01:40:54.680 Go ahead, just a couple more comments. 1827 01:40:54.760 --> 01:40:58.479 I'm sorry to hear about anybody Chris getting hurt. 1828 01:40:58.560 --> 01:41:01.960 That's that's He'll be in my prayers. 1829 01:41:02.319 --> 01:41:06.079 About the game after that, after that targeting on that 1830 01:41:06.319 --> 01:41:09.199 drive where Georgia went and scored, there was there was 1831 01:41:09.279 --> 01:41:11.720 a hole, there was an offensive line he had, he 1832 01:41:11.840 --> 01:41:15.159 had the arm of a defender and he basically dragged 1833 01:41:15.199 --> 01:41:17.039 him the ground. I mean, there was some pretty bad 1834 01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:19.399 calls there to get that game to go into overtime. 1835 01:41:19.439 --> 01:41:22.079 But other than that, that was that was a great 1836 01:41:22.119 --> 01:41:26.399 effort by both teams. I'm glad to hear that you 1837 01:41:26.520 --> 01:41:30.439 had a good trip out in Dallas. And you can't 1838 01:41:30.479 --> 01:41:32.520 go wrong when you stay at a Marriott. I've always 1839 01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:36.159 had good experiences every time I stay in the the Marriot. 1840 01:41:36.279 --> 01:41:37.800 But it was that the first time you were in 1841 01:41:37.920 --> 01:41:40.560 the actual sixth floor museum. 1842 01:41:41.199 --> 01:41:42.680 That was the first time I was in the sixth 1843 01:41:42.680 --> 01:41:43.319 floor museum. 1844 01:41:43.439 --> 01:41:48.600 Yeah, yeah, I went there probably, Oh my mother in law. 1845 01:41:48.640 --> 01:41:50.439 I was out there for a couple of days, and 1846 01:41:50.840 --> 01:41:54.159 before I went to go, you know, visit her, I 1847 01:41:54.279 --> 01:41:56.800 went there to de Ley Plaza and I went in 1848 01:41:56.920 --> 01:42:00.479 that sixth floor museum. I think it's a nice They 1849 01:42:00.560 --> 01:42:04.800 say it's about a ninety minute virtual and audio tour. 1850 01:42:05.359 --> 01:42:07.720 I spent about three and a half hours. I was 1851 01:42:08.520 --> 01:42:10.680 really really enjoyed myself there. 1852 01:42:11.520 --> 01:42:14.199 Probably spent probably good four or five hours in the 1853 01:42:14.239 --> 01:42:16.920 whole whole area, just just kind of walk them through 1854 01:42:17.000 --> 01:42:20.399 and imagine. I don't have the expertise of the JFK 1855 01:42:20.600 --> 01:42:24.439 assassination as you gentlemen, but I've read a lot of 1856 01:42:24.520 --> 01:42:27.920 books and been very fascinated by the subject. 1857 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.239 Some of the books that I enjoyed. What did you 1858 01:42:31.359 --> 01:42:37.279 think of The Unspeakable? What were your thoughts on that book? 1859 01:42:37.680 --> 01:42:43.000 JFK and the Unspeakable? You know, unfortunately I can't argue 1860 01:42:43.039 --> 01:42:44.720 with the critics. I think it was one of the 1861 01:42:44.800 --> 01:42:48.159 best books written probably in the past twenty years on 1862 01:42:48.359 --> 01:42:53.119 the case. It's interesting. I don't necessarily agree with everything 1863 01:42:53.319 --> 01:42:57.079 that doctor Douglas says in there. He, you know, puts 1864 01:42:57.119 --> 01:42:59.119 a little bit of weight on certain accounts that I 1865 01:42:59.199 --> 01:42:59.600 would not. 1866 01:43:01.119 --> 01:43:01.159 Like. 1867 01:43:01.279 --> 01:43:05.119 In the case of Richard Case Neguel, who I've learned 1868 01:43:05.159 --> 01:43:08.119 quite a bit more about, and uh, I don't necessarily 1869 01:43:08.319 --> 01:43:11.520 see as the same figure I once did you know 1870 01:43:11.680 --> 01:43:15.319 with with certain things coming out, you know, but Dick 1871 01:43:15.399 --> 01:43:17.359 Russell wrote that book The Man Who Knew Too Much 1872 01:43:17.439 --> 01:43:20.960 on him and uh, unfortunately, I think I wish Doctor 1873 01:43:21.000 --> 01:43:24.720 Douglas did not use him so often in the narrative, 1874 01:43:25.359 --> 01:43:27.680 but it's it's one of the best narratives out there 1875 01:43:28.239 --> 01:43:31.479 to introduce somebody to the case and also not bored 1876 01:43:31.520 --> 01:43:35.199 to death somebody who is familiar with a lot so. 1877 01:43:36.279 --> 01:43:37.960 And actually the funny thing is I have something to 1878 01:43:38.039 --> 01:43:40.960 do with the fact that the uh that the audiobook exists, 1879 01:43:42.039 --> 01:43:47.920 because oh yeah, I was complaining to James directly. I 1880 01:43:48.000 --> 01:43:50.359 was calling him up in I think it's Alabama, where 1881 01:43:50.359 --> 01:43:53.560 he lives, and I was complaining to him that not 1882 01:43:53.680 --> 01:43:56.720 only had that first Catholic publishing house printed it kind 1883 01:43:56.760 --> 01:44:00.199 of rough, but also Simon and Schuster printed it and 1884 01:44:01.239 --> 01:44:04.239 their version was hard to read as well. So I'm like, listen, 1885 01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:07.880 if you can at some point when you're done, you know, 1886 01:44:08.039 --> 01:44:11.079 making money, and I want you to make money, can 1887 01:44:11.119 --> 01:44:14.319 you make this you know available through the Talking Books 1888 01:44:14.359 --> 01:44:17.319 for the Blind, please, because this book is very hard 1889 01:44:17.359 --> 01:44:21.000 to read. And the next thing I know is about 1890 01:44:21.239 --> 01:44:24.359 I don't know, six or eight weeks later, I got 1891 01:44:24.800 --> 01:44:27.960 a package in the mail and it was the CDs 1892 01:44:28.039 --> 01:44:32.640 of the book, which James Douglas himself commissioned with his 1893 01:44:32.760 --> 01:44:37.000 original copyright through the Catholic House. That's why it mentions 1894 01:44:38.239 --> 01:44:42.479 the first publisher's name in the audiobook is because he 1895 01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:45.880 personally commissioned it, because Simon and Schuster wasn't necessarily going 1896 01:44:45.960 --> 01:44:49.039 to do it, but he made it happen. And there 1897 01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:51.800 was a little note in there that said thanks for 1898 01:44:51.920 --> 01:44:54.520 being part of making making this a reality. 1899 01:44:55.640 --> 01:44:56.680 So congratulation. 1900 01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:59.680 Yeah. So, I mean, you know, but I valued that 1901 01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:01.800 book even when I was straining to read it, just 1902 01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:04.399 so you know. Uh, yeah, so I think it's one 1903 01:45:04.439 --> 01:45:08.239 of the best. Yeah, absolutely, Be Pete, what do you well, 1904 01:45:09.039 --> 01:45:10.479 I was going to get bet Pete's take on it. 1905 01:45:10.600 --> 01:45:14.079 Be Pete. You read JFK in The Unspeakable, right, Yeah, that. 1906 01:45:14.239 --> 01:45:19.600 Was that was Douglas's book, right, yes, Douglas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1907 01:45:20.000 --> 01:45:23.399 I'm like you. There's a lot of information in there. 1908 01:45:24.159 --> 01:45:24.359 It was. 1909 01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:26.319 I think it was put together well, it. 1910 01:45:26.439 --> 01:45:30.039 Reads well, but I can't I can't buy some of 1911 01:45:30.159 --> 01:45:33.000 his deductions put that way. 1912 01:45:33.439 --> 01:45:35.960 Well, some things are a little unfortunate, you know, I 1913 01:45:36.039 --> 01:45:39.279 think in good faith he believed certain things that I 1914 01:45:39.359 --> 01:45:44.520 would not necessarily find credible. But overall, uh, it's actually 1915 01:45:45.000 --> 01:45:46.880 way better than a hell of a lot of other 1916 01:45:46.920 --> 01:45:48.680 books out there. I mean, definitely. 1917 01:45:48.840 --> 01:45:51.000 Yeah, it was a good read. I enjoyed reading it. 1918 01:45:52.319 --> 01:45:54.640 It's just like I said, you know, there's some things 1919 01:45:54.680 --> 01:45:57.840 that he latches onto that I really can't put a 1920 01:45:57.880 --> 01:45:58.479 lot of faith in. 1921 01:45:58.640 --> 01:46:00.880 But I mean, but that's every search are out there. 1922 01:46:00.960 --> 01:46:05.399 Everybody's got something that somebody else disagrees with or can't 1923 01:46:05.399 --> 01:46:08.359 agree with, or you know, we'll give him the benefit 1924 01:46:08.399 --> 01:46:10.640 of the doubt, but but really you know. 1925 01:46:10.920 --> 01:46:11.640 Taking his faith. 1926 01:46:12.199 --> 01:46:14.920 Yeah, like the way that the legend of Richard case 1927 01:46:15.000 --> 01:46:16.640 Neguell has been built up, and by the way he 1928 01:46:16.760 --> 01:46:22.000 came up during the conference big time. Yeah, you know, 1929 01:46:22.079 --> 01:46:25.239 there was two different presentations that kind of had to 1930 01:46:25.319 --> 01:46:29.000 do with Richard case Negel. Dick Russell was there, and 1931 01:46:29.199 --> 01:46:33.279 also I think Fred Litwin talked about him. So I 1932 01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:36.880 don't know what to say except that I think over 1933 01:46:36.920 --> 01:46:39.880 the years, I've found that his credibility has gone downhill, 1934 01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:43.279 and I think there's more legend to the Dick Russell 1935 01:46:43.359 --> 01:46:47.880 version of the story than fact. Unfortunately, because certain things 1936 01:46:48.000 --> 01:46:50.600 don't pan out to be true. You know, when they 1937 01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:53.039 they arrested him, he wasn't sitting on the steps of 1938 01:46:53.079 --> 01:46:57.279 the bank, you know, stuff like that to begin with. Yeah, 1939 01:46:57.399 --> 01:46:59.800 there's a lot too, but the way it was presented 1940 01:46:59.840 --> 01:47:03.000 at first, it was meant to look like he just shot, 1941 01:47:03.239 --> 01:47:05.319 you know, shot his gun inside the bank and went 1942 01:47:05.359 --> 01:47:09.279 outside and surrendered to the police. Well that's not what 1943 01:47:09.399 --> 01:47:11.920 he did, according to the cops. And I don't necessarily 1944 01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:16.560 always believe the cops version of things, but in this case, 1945 01:47:16.800 --> 01:47:18.680 it's a little hard to kind of put somebody in 1946 01:47:18.760 --> 01:47:20.760 a car if they sat down and just were waiting 1947 01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:21.600 for them to show up. 1948 01:47:22.359 --> 01:47:24.760 Well, just out of curiosity, how much faith do you 1949 01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:30.720 put into Mabel claiming that, you know, Oswald was a 1950 01:47:30.880 --> 01:47:37.720 name that was used throughout the agencies for different things. 1951 01:47:38.199 --> 01:47:40.800 And that's why we ended up hearing so many references 1952 01:47:40.840 --> 01:47:43.840 to Oswald supposedly being in none different places at the 1953 01:47:43.880 --> 01:47:44.399 same time. 1954 01:47:44.880 --> 01:47:47.840 Well, we have different Here's the thing about that. I 1955 01:47:47.920 --> 01:47:50.760 don't know how much of that is really Richard case 1956 01:47:50.840 --> 01:47:55.760 Miguel's claim or if it's stuff, because there is evidence 1957 01:47:55.880 --> 01:47:57.640 that his name was being used in a couple of 1958 01:47:57.680 --> 01:48:02.199 places that have nothing to do with Miguel, so it's 1959 01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:05.880 possible that it was being used in more than one place. 1960 01:48:07.239 --> 01:48:09.920 What do you think about the connection between the name 1961 01:48:10.039 --> 01:48:11.319 Alec Hidell. 1962 01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:14.199 And Oswald using it? 1963 01:48:14.439 --> 01:48:17.000 I didn't there was some I think I remember a 1964 01:48:17.119 --> 01:48:27.319 reference in the original Russell Playboy articles that supposedly Alex 1965 01:48:27.399 --> 01:48:31.800 Hidell was a name that was used and through that 1966 01:48:32.079 --> 01:48:37.079 name you could track down what section was doing that work. 1967 01:48:37.359 --> 01:48:41.079 It was a name that was not common, but everybody 1968 01:48:41.159 --> 01:48:43.119 knew that if that name was used, it was used 1969 01:48:43.199 --> 01:48:44.039 for different things. 1970 01:48:44.920 --> 01:48:47.520 It never could make the connection as to how Oswald 1971 01:48:48.199 --> 01:48:49.079 started using it. 1972 01:48:49.359 --> 01:48:51.760 That's what I'm wondering, is how that I've never been 1973 01:48:51.760 --> 01:48:53.600 able to really get into detail on that. 1974 01:48:53.840 --> 01:48:56.520 Well, I'm not sure evidence exists to back that up. 1975 01:48:58.359 --> 01:49:00.439 You know, that's one of those claims. And again, you know, 1976 01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:04.720 Miguel had a bad head injury too, which caused him 1977 01:49:04.760 --> 01:49:09.680 some problems medically, and that's now provable, you know. And 1978 01:49:10.479 --> 01:49:12.319 is it a matter of his memory is kind of 1979 01:49:12.359 --> 01:49:14.640 scrambled because of his head injury. Is it a matter 1980 01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:18.920 of you know, Russell making the story better for consumption? 1981 01:49:20.319 --> 01:49:24.760 Who knows, right? So it's a tough thing anyway, We've 1982 01:49:24.800 --> 01:49:27.000 only got a few minutes left, and I know what 1983 01:49:27.319 --> 01:49:29.560 we ended up going on and on a bit with 1984 01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:32.479 Danny here, but we gave him full answer about JFK 1985 01:49:32.600 --> 01:49:33.800 and the Unspeakable for sure. 1986 01:49:34.920 --> 01:49:38.119 Excellent book. Yeah, it is a good book. I enjoyed it. 1987 01:49:38.640 --> 01:49:41.560 So I've read it twice and saw my shelf, and 1988 01:49:41.640 --> 01:49:45.439 I also listened to it on Amazon, so I've gotten 1989 01:49:45.520 --> 01:49:49.760 three times in it. But I was not expecting to 1990 01:49:49.880 --> 01:49:52.840 have Thomas Merton in there. And I read Thomas Murton's 1991 01:49:52.840 --> 01:49:57.159 Seventh Story Mountain decades ago, right, and I always found 1992 01:49:57.239 --> 01:50:00.600 him a Trappis Monk, is a good spirit writers. 1993 01:50:00.640 --> 01:50:06.279 So absolutely, yeah, the the legitimacy and the you know 1994 01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:08.039 how relevant. I thought it was a good book. I 1995 01:50:08.239 --> 01:50:08.640 enjoyed it. 1996 01:50:08.960 --> 01:50:11.720 No, and I agree with that that's a that's a 1997 01:50:11.840 --> 01:50:15.119 fascinating uh uh you know device that he used there 1998 01:50:15.359 --> 01:50:18.119 to begin, because the book begins with with the Thomas 1999 01:50:18.199 --> 01:50:22.600 Merton thing, uh and it is essential to framing things. 2000 01:50:22.640 --> 01:50:26.920 And I like it. And I only disagree that Kennedy 2001 01:50:27.760 --> 01:50:30.920 was not turning toward peace. It wasn't some new thing 2002 01:50:31.119 --> 01:50:34.079 that he was getting into. I think that he always 2003 01:50:34.199 --> 01:50:39.399 had a slightly different view on foreign policy that wasn't necessarily, 2004 01:50:39.960 --> 01:50:43.159 you know, the dove. I don't think it was ever 2005 01:50:43.359 --> 01:50:46.680 that he was a dove, but he wasn't a warhawk either. 2006 01:50:47.359 --> 01:50:47.560 You know. 2007 01:50:48.039 --> 01:50:51.920 So to me, he didn't turn away and turned toward peace. 2008 01:50:52.079 --> 01:50:55.439 I think he always had ideas that lent themselves to 2009 01:50:55.560 --> 01:50:58.479 that to begin with. So there's the only disagreement I 2010 01:50:58.560 --> 01:51:02.239 have with his narrative. But I love the fact that 2011 01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:04.119 he framed it with Merton. Sorry, good. 2012 01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:06.840 Yeah, well, no, no, no. 2013 01:51:06.960 --> 01:51:09.479 What I got to my understanding is I believe James 2014 01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:13.199 Douglas and I understand his thought process. I think he 2015 01:51:13.319 --> 01:51:15.840 comes out of what's called the Catholic Worker movement, which 2016 01:51:15.960 --> 01:51:18.880 is a piece piece group like in Pacts Christie and 2017 01:51:18.960 --> 01:51:20.279 the same with Thomas Merton. 2018 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:23.039 Absolutely he lives in a Catholic. 2019 01:51:24.439 --> 01:51:25.479 Up be John Kennedy. 2020 01:51:25.520 --> 01:51:27.560 In the first Catholic president, I think there was a 2021 01:51:27.600 --> 01:51:30.399 lot of whisper thinking that they were going to kind 2022 01:51:30.439 --> 01:51:33.319 of like change the foreign policy to more of a 2023 01:51:33.479 --> 01:51:35.600 peace instead of a cold war. 2024 01:51:36.079 --> 01:51:38.840 Yes policy, that's just that's I think what was being 2025 01:51:38.920 --> 01:51:39.600 inserted there. 2026 01:51:39.800 --> 01:51:42.720 Well, absolutely true, And James Douglas is a guy who, 2027 01:51:43.079 --> 01:51:45.199 you know, not only was part of the Catholic worker thing, 2028 01:51:45.279 --> 01:51:47.720 he lives in a Catholic workerhouse, I think to this day. 2029 01:51:49.479 --> 01:51:50.560 Yeah, that's today. 2030 01:51:50.720 --> 01:51:55.640 Yeah, I'm very familiar, like I kind of lean politics, 2031 01:51:56.000 --> 01:51:57.159 but that makes sense. 2032 01:51:57.079 --> 01:51:59.880 There you go. And literally Douglas is a guy who literally, 2033 01:52:00.119 --> 01:52:03.119 you know, through his body in front of uh you know, 2034 01:52:03.520 --> 01:52:08.279 nuclear nukes being transferred, uh, you know, and things like that. 2035 01:52:08.439 --> 01:52:10.680 I mean, there's a whole history to Douglas. You might 2036 01:52:10.760 --> 01:52:15.840 want to look into uh some more too. Yeah, yeah, uh, which, 2037 01:52:15.920 --> 01:52:20.720 thank you. I appreciate that. Absolutely questions absolutely so, Danny, 2038 01:52:20.800 --> 01:52:23.000 thanks for calling in, and of course thanks to Harlan, 2039 01:52:23.319 --> 01:52:25.880 but also Jimmy James. Gonna try and squeeze in a 2040 01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:28.359 final word with you here. Uh, what do you want 2041 01:52:28.399 --> 01:52:30.000 to drop in before we're all done? 2042 01:52:34.119 --> 01:52:39.800 Well, Jim Douglas, this book was be it book before 2043 01:52:40.159 --> 01:52:41.920 Jim Mars's Crossfire. 2044 01:52:43.800 --> 01:52:48.600 M Well, Crossfire came out way before JFK and The Unspeakable. 2045 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:51.399 Though Crossfire was a huge thing. It was part of 2046 01:52:51.479 --> 01:52:52.720 what the JFK movie was. 2047 01:52:55.039 --> 01:53:00.560 Oh that's true. Yeah, yeah, Douglas late dankies well none 2048 01:53:00.600 --> 01:53:01.039 the last. 2049 01:53:01.199 --> 01:53:05.000 Somehow in the early two thousands, all of the sudden, 2050 01:53:05.079 --> 01:53:08.159 I just started seeing that guy everywhere with that book. 2051 01:53:08.600 --> 01:53:12.079 Yeah, Jim Mars, though, to be fair, Jim Mars that 2052 01:53:12.239 --> 01:53:15.439 Crossfire was available to be optioned for the JFK movie, 2053 01:53:15.880 --> 01:53:18.439 and Jim Douglas's book didn't come out until what two 2054 01:53:18.439 --> 01:53:23.920 thousand and eight? Maybe? No, no, no, no late Uh no, 2055 01:53:24.119 --> 01:53:26.159 I know it's not the late nineties, because again, like 2056 01:53:26.279 --> 01:53:29.119 I said, I was, I was talking to Jim Douglas personally. 2057 01:53:29.760 --> 01:53:32.520 Let me see when it came out exactly, b Pete, 2058 01:53:32.600 --> 01:53:33.720 anything you want to add here? 2059 01:53:35.159 --> 01:53:38.359 Oh no, I was running out of time here quickly. 2060 01:53:38.359 --> 01:53:40.479 I was just gonna say gold, we'd get another weekend 2061 01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:42.119 and looking forward to doing it next week. 2062 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:47.199 Oh absolutely, and me too, And I just want to 2063 01:53:47.199 --> 01:53:47.840 get this through. 2064 01:53:48.079 --> 01:53:48.199 Uh. 2065 01:53:49.039 --> 01:53:51.119 Let me see when this book was released, because I'm 2066 01:53:51.119 --> 01:53:54.079 telling you, I know factually it didn't come out until 2067 01:53:54.079 --> 01:53:55.079 two thousand and something. 2068 01:53:56.239 --> 01:53:59.920 Let's see, what was the big book in the late 2069 01:54:00.239 --> 01:54:05.439 nineties where they talk about the JFK's body being monkeyed 2070 01:54:05.520 --> 01:54:07.560 with them the plane, well, in. 2071 01:54:07.600 --> 01:54:13.039 The nineteen eighties, Best Evidence, Best Evidence in the nineteen eighties. 2072 01:54:14.920 --> 01:54:18.399 No book came out was published in two thousand and eight. 2073 01:54:19.079 --> 01:54:21.760 Yeah, I have the and then again it was republished 2074 01:54:21.800 --> 01:54:25.920 by Simon and Schuster in twenty ten. But the thing is, no, 2075 01:54:26.119 --> 01:54:29.640 you're thinking about his body being monkeyed with. That's best evidence. 2076 01:54:29.760 --> 01:54:31.000 That's David Lifton's book. 2077 01:54:32.000 --> 01:54:34.920 Okay, it's the best step of it's that's the book 2078 01:54:35.079 --> 01:54:37.359 that was so huge in the late nineties. 2079 01:54:37.880 --> 01:54:40.079 It was huge, Yeah, but it came out in the eighties, 2080 01:54:40.159 --> 01:54:42.600 but it remained huge for a long time. 2081 01:54:43.000 --> 01:54:45.319 Best where I found my copy of that book. 2082 01:54:45.439 --> 01:54:49.359 I was getting discharged from the army in two thousand 2083 01:54:49.560 --> 01:54:50.920 and what was this two. 2084 01:54:50.840 --> 01:54:54.600 Thousand and three, now two thousand and four. 2085 01:54:54.600 --> 01:54:56.840 Anyway, Okay, I had to wait a week for my 2086 01:54:56.960 --> 01:54:59.399 records to catch up with me coming over from Germany. 2087 01:54:59.479 --> 01:55:01.000 I was in the South Carolina. 2088 01:55:01.079 --> 01:55:03.399 Fort Jackson is where I got out, So I was 2089 01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:05.800 getting demal work stuff done for. 2090 01:55:05.920 --> 01:55:08.920 That week, and it happened to be sitting on a 2091 01:55:09.199 --> 01:55:16.199 book shelf. Oh when was it? Yeah? 2092 01:55:16.359 --> 01:55:18.239 I picked it up to read it and ended up 2093 01:55:18.319 --> 01:55:23.119 taking it with me on the plane home. And that 2094 01:55:23.279 --> 01:55:27.119 was the first time I'd come into contact with distant stuff. 2095 01:55:28.319 --> 01:55:33.159 Well fair enough, but unfortunately we're over at a time, 2096 01:55:33.439 --> 01:55:35.920 and I want to thank everybody for calling in and 2097 01:55:36.159 --> 01:55:37.960 absolutely at all times, I want you to know that 2098 01:55:38.039 --> 01:55:40.239 I am merely o'ceelly. All of you are. Indeed the 2099 01:55:40.319 --> 01:55:43.960 effect the Age of Transitions begins after a short break 2100 01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:47.319 here on ocelly dot com radio. 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