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Speaker 1: This is Spunky Comstock.

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Speaker 2: I'm here with Wolfman Mike.

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Speaker 3: We're from the seventies versus the Eighties podcast, and we

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want to introduce you to a little album called Hotel California.

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So you could hear this album absolutely everywhere when it

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first came out, and the only thing worse if you

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weren't a huge Eagles fan. They split up, and then

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they all took up solo careers, and then they started

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assaulting you on different fronts. I remember as a kid,

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when i'd go with my dad to the auto parts story,

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you'd hear the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: You'd go with your mom to the grocery store, you'd

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hear the Eagles.

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Speaker 4: You go with your grandparents to the proctologists, you'd hear

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the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: These nice dudes at the Shirley Campy Serious podcast invite

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it to sign, and I think we're just wrecking it.

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All right, let's go to the guys from Shirley Can't

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Be Serious.

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Speaker 2: Well, everybody, welcome back to the Shirley You Can't Be

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Serious podcasts. Jason, there are i would say three American

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bands that defined the seventies sound. Okay, okay, Number three

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I'm gonna say is Lennard Skinner. Okay, okay, haven't covered

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them yet, right, but would love to. Florida band Southern rock,

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right yeah, sure. Number two Aerosmith Oh okay, yeah, I

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mean and we have that, we have covered them, but

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they have Boston boys from Boston, totally different sound.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then the band that we're here today, I think

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is the American band that defined what the seventies sounded like,

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and that is the Eagles. And you know the that article.

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It's interesting because we've had some talk about it. It's not

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the Eagles, it's Eagles, but I just watched the documentary.

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Every one of those guys calls themselves the EA. I

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know every one of them, So I'm gonna call them

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the Eagles because if they can do it, I can

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do it, right. That's right, That's right.

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Speaker 4: Here's my trivia question for you before we get started.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, give me the top six selling albums in the

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United States all time?

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Speaker 4: Ready go uh?

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Speaker 2: Thriller.

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Speaker 5: Thriller's number two, Covered It Back in Black. Back in

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Black is number four.

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Speaker 2: Covered It Hotel California.

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Speaker 5: Hotel California is number three. Getting Ready to Cover It?

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Eagle's Greatest Hits, Volume one number one.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so I've what I've gotten?

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Speaker 2: Two more five and number six? Okay?

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Speaker 4: Are they?

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Speaker 2: This is of all time in the United States in

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the United States Bodyguard soundtrack.

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Speaker 4: No, but that's a good guess. How you get a hint?

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Uh here?

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Speaker 5: Well, both are from the seventies. Okay, we haven't covered

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either one of these yet, but we will next week.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So rumors rumors.

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Speaker 5: By Fleetwood Mac number six all time in the United.

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Speaker 2: States, okay. And then what's the other one on?

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Speaker 5: And then the number five spot is led Zeppelin four?

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, okay, yeah, of course, of course.

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Speaker 2: Right. So interestingly this album come out, they had greatest

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Hits released while they were recording this album, kind of against.

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Speaker 4: Their will, kind of without their knowledge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, sorry band that we released the

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greatest selling album of all time.

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Speaker 4: It means an extra one hundred million dollars in.

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Speaker 2: Your pocket, yeah, or whatever it might be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And so then they record this in seventy six, release

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it late seventy six. This has to be This is

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nominated for Album the Year, right, it had to win, right,

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It did not win.

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Speaker 4: It did not win.

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Speaker 2: Hotel California, which is literally a Greatest Hits album by itself,

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By Itself did not.

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Speaker 5: Win, did not win Album of the Year, what one

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rumors by Fleetwood Mac.

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Speaker 2: So what you're saying is we've got a hefty match

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up here, right, It's going to be one for the ages. Guys,

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if you don't know how we do are, if this

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is your first time to listen to us, the way

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that we do things is we picked two heavy hitters,

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like two icons, and we compare them and we just said, hey,

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these guys share a relationship. I mean, you've got Don

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Henley and Stevie Nicks having a relationship together. These albums

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both came out with just like in a few months

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of each other, both huge, But I did not realize

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that it was that close. That Album of the Year

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Hotel California is nominated but loses to Rumors, which we

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will be covering on our next episodes.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, I think you overlooked one connection that's kind

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of under the radar. Stevie Nicks and Joe Walsh were

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together for three years and she called him the love

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of her life.

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Speaker 2: Let me say this. I'm going to say this right now.

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Joe Walsh is an American treasure. And the fact that

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we don't talk about him more. Is a travesty, all right.

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He is one of the greatest human beings I've ever

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had the chance to study in my life. Okay, So

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nineteen sixty seven, the guitarist for a band called the

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James Gang is a wall from the Armony and decided

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he wants to leave his wife, so he itches the

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band and goes out to California start his own band.

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And then they like a little while later, they get

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to knock at the door and it's this kind of

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crazy looking guy who's like, hey man, hey man, you

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need a guitarist, and they bring him in and he's

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obviously phenomenal. It's a five piece band again for about

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a week, like, they lose two of their members, try

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to replace one of them, he's gone again, and they

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have this show set up and they're like, we don't

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have all of our people, but we really need the money.

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So they perform it as a three piece band, and

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they're like, hey, we're pretty dang good as a three

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piece band. And so, then of course time goes on,

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they developed, they get signed. James Gang has a couple

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of great tunes really off their second album, but Funk

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forty nine is an icon. He shows what kind of

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guitarist Joe Walsh is and do you know who produced

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those albums? That's correct, yes, And so fast forward about

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eight years and Bernie Leeden is kind of pissed off

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about the direction that the Eagles is headed, and Glenn

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Fry is particularly excited about the way that the Eagles

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are headed right, and he's talking it up and Bernie

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Leeden says, you need to cool off, buddy, and dumps

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a beer on his head. And that was just effectively

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the decision that terminated him from the band.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, just hearing that disrespect, even if it

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was kind of meant jokingly.

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Speaker 4: I mean, Glenn Fry, these guys are uptight. I told

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you they are the least taking it easy people.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Glenn Fry and Don Henley do not take it easy.

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Speaker 4: They do not. They take it to the limit.

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Speaker 2: So Bernie's out of the band and they've been doing

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this joke thing for a while because Joe Walsh was

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opening for them. Where when they get done with their

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as a joke, they bring out this guitar case and

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woman out of a cake. They play a couple of

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James Gang songs and they play some Eagle songs together,

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and when Bernie's gone, Bill Simsuck's like, why don't you

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have Joe joined the band? And they said that sounds

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freaking phenomenal, you.

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Speaker 5: Know, just on that note. Glenn Fry is a demanding, tough,

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street smart, tu fisted, profit driven, no taking it easy

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kind of guy, and Don Henley is a perfectionist, absolute,

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can hear every mistake, tight malcontent, and then you bring

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Speaker 4: Guy what the band needed.

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Speaker 2: He is the end of their Yang mans.

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Speaker 5: Hey, I sent you the beginning of the Joe Walsh

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song Meadows.

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Speaker 4: Did you listen to it? Them? We play this for

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you well, so I can't remember.

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Speaker 2: Was it Rocky Mountain Way or was it Life's Been

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Good to Me so far? That ends in this kind

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of weird cacophony of bizarre animal noises.

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Speaker 4: I think it's Life's been good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my gosh so so. In that interim, in

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the middle of the time of James Gang's success and

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him joining the Eagles, he opens for a band called

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the Who Yes and the drummer for the band The Who.

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Is a guy named Keith Moon who is known as

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the ultimate party rock and roll machine, world famous, resulting

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in his own demise right, you know, famously found in

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a swimming pool, face down, right, who knows exactly what

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Royce into a pool a lake, I don't remember, just

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just full of crazy stuff. But while Joe is touring

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with The Who, Keith Moon's like, I like you, you

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are going to now beat my protegee.

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Speaker 4: We're buddies.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so Joe then becomes the ultimate hotel trash

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master and an epic end to a story that we

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when he met Jim Belushi. They decided to go to

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a fancy restaurant. They wouldnt let him in because they

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were blue jeans, so they sprayed painted their jeans black,

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and realized the back of their jeans were blue again,

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but the seats were now black on these chairs, and

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they backed out and ran away. But then that night

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they decided to see if they could set the record

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for the most hotel damage. And in nineteen whatever it

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was seventy seven dollars. It was twenty eight thousand dollars

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Speaker 5: That doesn't even come close to my favorite Joe Walsh's story.

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And well, this is before we've even got to the album.

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But he was on Jeopardy a few years ago and

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he was playing against Mark McGrath from Sugar Ray, who

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is cleaning up yeah, and Graham Nash, who also it's

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all foggy because of the sixties and seventies, but the

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question was somehow related to who was Joe Walsh's first wife,

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Mark McGrath's, like out of respect, he was waiting.

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Speaker 4: That's great, that's great.

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Speaker 2: Well, we've blathered on a bit, but the important thing

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to note is this is the first album to feature

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Joe Walsh on it. We had lost Bernie Leadon after

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the beer incident. And it is also the last album

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to feature Randy Meisner. That's right, and we'll get into

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that whole story once we get further along in the album.

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Speaker 4: Okay, before we.

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Speaker 5: Do, I've got just a couple of tidbits. Overall on

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the album, Okay, Okay, third most selling album in the

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United States of all time, twenty six times platinum. It

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went platinum in one week.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 5: It was released December eighth, nineteen seventy six. Before the

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year is over, it's already platinum. The cover of this

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album is so iconic. It's actually there you go, right there,

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That is the Beverly Hills Hotel, shot at Golden Hour.

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I just love this cover so much. David Alexander's the photographer.

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They actually got a cherry picker rose up over Sunset

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Boulevard to take this picture. And when the Beverly Hills

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Hotel was looking at They're like.

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Speaker 4: Hey, wait a minute, that's our hotel. They tried to sue.

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By the way, I checked Beverly Hills Hotel.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, just to see what are going rates, you know,

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Speaker 4: Between four and you know, two thousand dollars a night.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so is it the same hotel that

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Axle Foley was trying to check into. I was going

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to do a piece on Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 5: That's right, but they don't let any Yeah. This album

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was nominated for five Grammys in nineteen seventy eight. It

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Hotel California, WHI we're going to talk about here in

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a second. But they refused to show up unless they

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were guaranteed to win.

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Speaker 4: That's weird these guys.

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Speaker 5: For as much as I respect them as artists and musicians,

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they are capital D douches about some things.

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Speaker 2: Take it easy, guys, they do not easy. Get a peaceful,

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easy feeling. Oh my gosh. So in nineteen seventy six,

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Don Felder is fiddling around on his guitar, which he does.

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He was told by Bernie who I mean childhood friends.

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Speaker 5: They played on the same high school band together.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell that story in a bit. But Bernie says, hey,

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just record your musical ideas. Put them on tape. Give

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him to Glenn and and they will figure out what

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they like, right, and they'll put words to They'll make

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good words to whatever music you're putting down. Make a

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musical bed for them and so on one of probably

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a dozen songs on a tape he had given them,

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of probably dozens of tapes he had given them, they

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listened to a song that they describe as a mix

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between Mexican Latin music and reggae, and it strikes them

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and they start to write a song. And Henley is

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probably the main songwriter for this about the well you

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put it in many different ways, about the disillusionment of

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America and thinking that you want success and then finding

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out that it's not as good as you thought it was.

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But I think he summed it up perfectly on the

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Howard Sterns Show. He said, it's about that thin line

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between the American dream and the American nightmare. And that

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song is called Hotel California.

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Speaker 5: The we're talking about one of the greatest songs of

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all time.

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Speaker 2: It is the hub of the wheel that this album

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was conceived around. Okay, they did this song first, and

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every other song on this album is involved in the

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concept of this first song, and they didn't even release

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it as the first single. This was the second single

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that they released on A.

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Speaker 6: Way in the Distance, Right.

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Speaker 1: Down Night.

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Speaker 5: It doesn't make any sense, I mean it does make

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sense because at the time radio would not play six

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minute songs. It had to be three and a half minutes.

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And it certainly you better be singing by the thirty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you need to radio edit this. No, No, I'm

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not going to No, it's got to be shorter. No,

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not doing it. If you don't want to play it,

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don't play it.

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Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, there's a two minute and thirty

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second guitar dueling guitar solo at the end.

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Speaker 2: I gotta say this, there are a handful of guitar

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solos from the seventies that belong on the Mount rushmore

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of best guitar solos of the decade. This is unquestionably

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in the conversation and might be number one.

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Speaker 5: Joe Walsh and Felder shredding at the end of this,

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And that doesn't even discuss the kind of cryptic lyrics,

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the kind of the mystery and the tone in Henley's voice.

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Speaker 2: The lyrics are cryptic, as you've said, and that led

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to all kinds of weird interpretations. Glenn Fry said, we

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like to kind of keep the mystery of the song,

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you know, like put it out there and let people

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do with it, what they want to do with it,

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and man, people went crazy with this. One talks about

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the Church of Satan based on images in the photograph

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that are not actually those images at all. It's just

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crazy stuff.

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Speaker 5: I know when I grew up, my parents were uncomfortable

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a little bit with the line, you know, you could

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stab it with your steely knives, but you just can't

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kill the beast and then sort of running for the door.

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It's kind of this weird ghost story, the shining type

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of thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a journey, yeah, yeah, I mean it's the hero's journey.

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You're he's gone into a place that is the underworld

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and he's just trying to escape.

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Speaker 4: I think it's brilliant, and I think people read into

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it way too much.

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Speaker 5: I just think it's kind of a cool story that

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they were kind of pushing the limits on. Glenn Frey

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talked about how they wanted to create like a Twilight Zone.

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Speaker 4: Type of thing.

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Speaker 2: That's I certainly got that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: By the way, this song reached number one. It was

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the second single, as you said, which still seems crazy

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to me. This was released February twenty second, nineteen seventy seven.

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It reached number one May seventh, nineteen seventy seven, stayed

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number one for one week. Do you want to hear

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the top five real quick?

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Speaker 4: You know that I do?

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Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna start with number six Right Time of

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the Night by Jennifer warrens Okay. We talked about her

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on our Dirty Dancing soundtrack.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 5: Number five Don't Leave Me This Way by Thelma Houston.

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Speaker 4: Great disco song.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, Number four maybe the only Stevie Wonder song I.

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Speaker 2: Actually like, Sir Duke.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, yep, all right?

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Speaker 5: Number three Southern Nights by Glenn Campbell and number two

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When I Need You by Leo Sayer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, man, I would two. No, I was one. I

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was yeah, I wasn't even two yet when these when

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these things were happening.

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Speaker 4: But here's an interesting thing.

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Speaker 2: This album is really where the band cracks and they

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get one more album out before they're done. But this

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is when they really crack. And what's crazy is it is,

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in my mind, unquestionably the best Eagles album ever. Oh

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it is it is. We you know, we talk about

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albums that are that are good from beginning to end,

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and we've talked about albums that don't have any skippers,

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but this is so far beyond that. I think you

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should put it like that. It's not that there are

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no skippers, it's every single song is perfect, like it

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is just a blend, perfect blend, perfect music. Like it's

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not only no skippers, it's like you have to listen

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to every song. You can't skip anything.

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Speaker 5: So I told you that this was in my house,

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Like my parents listen to this music, my uncle listen

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to this music. And when I was a little kid,

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it was kind of around and then I as I

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grew it kind of became rear view mirror type of

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thing for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I went on a ski trip with Chris Alexander, Chris Bauer,

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I call him Bomber. My buddy Eric wenton and they

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popped in a tape of Eagles Greatest Hits Volume one

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on one side, Eagles Greatest Hits Volume two on the

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other side, and I came crashing back into the Eagles

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as a super fan.

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Speaker 2: I remember this song specifically was not my introduction to

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the Eagles, because I had heard their music, but I

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didn't know anything about them. I couldn't have told you

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that any particular song was an Eagles song. I'd heard

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them before, but it was just like things on the radio,

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and you just don't not right. But I would have

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been thirteen or fourteen years old. I had recently been

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teaching myself how to play the guitar. I can remember

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being mom had just passed the year before. I'm hanging

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out with my dad. He had a TV in his bedroom.

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We're sitting there. I don't know why we would have

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been watching MTV, but literally, the video, the live performance

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of this song comes on and I'm like, oh, I

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love this song. I'd seen it several times. I love

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this song. And my dad says, this is a great song.

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Speaker 4: He didn't.

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Speaker 2: It was kind of like a new discovery like you're

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talking about as well. But he's like, let's see if

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we can figure out how to play it. And I said,

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I think we have this album. And I went and

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looked at our albums and we had Eagles Live. Never

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had listened to it before. I just remembered a Eagles.

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I remembered seeing that. Right, it's like a trunk. It's

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like a trunk with stickers on it.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: He pulls it out, he starts playing, and he's like, Okay, well,

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I think need to slow it down, and so the

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record players you could slow them down, right. And so

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this song starts in B minor, right, and had actually

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the original song had started with Felder writing in an

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E minor, but Don Henley's voice wouldn't fit in that,

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and so they kept dropping it until it hits B minor.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 2: But for somebody who's not a prolific guitar player, my

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dad was not a prolific guitar player, it's a whole

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lot easier to play a minor, right, okay, And so

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we slowed the record down a full note, right, you

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go from B down to A, and he plays an

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A minor. And I watched, I listened to my dad

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figure out how to play all all of the chords

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to this song, and I'm kind of blown away and

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inspires me to do this later on. But that was

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also when we began playing music together because once he

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had figured it out, he figured out how to play

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it on the piano, and I could play it on

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the guitar because he had taught me how to do it.

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And so this and for the next thirty something years,

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every time we got together, we would play music together.

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That was the thing that we shared and this song

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was the inspiration for that.

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Speaker 4: Wow, that's a great story. Yeah, that's a great story.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have to give a shout out to our

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Speaker 5: Back to what we were talking about, how Felder, you

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know the other guys would write musically a bed for

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Hinley and Fry to write lyrics for yes.

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Speaker 4: So that happened on this song.

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Speaker 5: So felders, as you said, created seventeen eighteen nineteen songs,

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and Lee goes Nope, crap crap, crap, crap, crap, except

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for two Yeah. One turns into victim of love, which

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we'll talk about here in a second. Yes and one

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turns into Hotel California, Welcome.

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Speaker 7: To that.

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Speaker 1: Things.

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Speaker 5: It came time to record and Hindley's like, Okay, let's

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do this, and Felder starts playing it and Hindley's like, no, no, no, no, no,

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you're not doing any of it right. He's like, oh really,

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I thought I was, so start to play it again.

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He's like no, no, no, no, no, like the demo and

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he's like, guy's been like a year since I sent

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that to you. He didn't remember, so he was just

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kind of filling around. So Henley's like, you have to

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figure out how you did it on the demo because

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that's the way it's going on the record. So they

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were in Miami recording at Criterion. He had to call

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his housekeeper back in Malibu and tell her to put

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the tape in, turn it way up, and he had

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the telephone. He had to listen to himself playing this.

477
00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:37,839
Speaker 2: To figure it out. Now, So you've you've pointed out

478
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,759
something interesting. They're recording in Miami. They're recording a Hotel

479
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:47,240
California in Miami. No, No, the did do some recording in California.

480
00:24:47,319 --> 00:24:48,200
Speaker 4: They were back and forth.

481
00:24:48,279 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 5: But do you know why, Well, it's because their producer,

482
00:24:51,039 --> 00:24:55,319
Bill Simsk, had this weird fear of earthquakes.

483
00:24:55,519 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 4: I don't think it's weird.

484
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,119
Speaker 2: He was in an earthquake as a young person and

485
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:01,039
was like, I am I'm going to do that again.

486
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:04,519
Speaker 5: He was like, I'm out, guys, I'm in Florida. So

487
00:25:04,759 --> 00:25:09,200
Simsk insisted on recording in Miami, and he even said

488
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,000
it was good to get the guys out of La,

489
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,200
get him away from the crowd, get him away from

490
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:13,839
the partying.

491
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 4: And I told you, I'm like, I mean, who's partying

492
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,000
in Miami. I'm no drugs in Miami.

493
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,559
Speaker 5: If going to Miami is the better option, La was

494
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:23,559
crazy in the sun.

495
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 2: You could check out, but you can never leave.

496
00:25:28,319 --> 00:25:30,559
Speaker 5: One more thing I wanted to mention, Yeah, back to

497
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200
the You can stab it with your steely knives, but

498
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,240
you just can't kill the beast. That is a direct

499
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,079
reference to Steely Dan.

500
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:41,079
Speaker 2: You know this. Steely Okay, Yeah, now Steely Knives. Okay,

501
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:41,920
I got you.

502
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:45,759
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, So Steely Dan in Steely Dan. Walter Becker

503
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,920
is a member of Steely Dan. His girlfriend was a

504
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,640
big fan of the Eagles and to drive him crazy.

505
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:56,079
She used to crank the Eagles. Okay, so come on, man,

506
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:03,319
I've had a long night. And so in their song

507
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,359
Everything You Did, there's a line that says, turn up

508
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,160
the Eagles, the neighbors are listening.

509
00:26:08,559 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 4: Isn't a shout out or is it a disc?

510
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 2: It's the it's a you were you're making radio popcorn

511
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,160
discs by the Steely Dance Newts.

512
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:23,079
Speaker 5: So anyway, so to reciprocate, they have the Steely Knives.

513
00:26:23,279 --> 00:26:25,319
Speaker 2: I got you, I Got you. I hate to leave

514
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:25,720
this one.

515
00:26:26,079 --> 00:26:29,759
Speaker 5: This is truly one of the greatest songs of all time.

516
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can't I can't say that there's another

517
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,039
song on here that's better than this song. But this

518
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:41,519
song is so ubiquitous, it's so just like everybody knows

519
00:26:41,599 --> 00:26:44,839
this song that I'm going to I'm going to say

520
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,440
there's another song on here. I want you to pick

521
00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:50,160
the other song. If we've got to take Hotel California

522
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,599
off of the list, Oh, okay, what is going to

523
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,599
be your This is the best song on the album,

524
00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:56,119
Spikael Football song.

525
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 4: I like it, like it? Okay, do it all right?

526
00:26:58,079 --> 00:27:00,319
Speaker 5: You? I've got one more Hotel California store that I

527
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,440
want to tell you has to do with Glenn Fry,

528
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,720
Don Henley, and Don Felder, but it happens in nineteen

529
00:27:07,759 --> 00:27:11,279
ninety four, so I'm gonna save that one in case

530
00:27:11,319 --> 00:27:14,640
we want to talk about it on a Health Freezes

531
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,640
Over episode.

532
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,839
Speaker 2: So you're being very subtle about this, But I said

533
00:27:20,839 --> 00:27:22,559
to this, and you know you guys are listening. You

534
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,359
tell us where whether this is a good idea or not.

535
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:28,119
I said, we should probably not talk about the reunion

536
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:31,039
because I think we need a third episode. We've done

537
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,759
greatest hits. We're doing Hotel California. We need to do

538
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,920
Health Freezes Over. And then I said, we probably should

539
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,240
compare it to another great American band who released another

540
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:46,079
great American band from the seventies who released an album

541
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,240
in nineteen ninety four. How about Aerosmith Big Ones.

542
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 4: It's a great one, man, Okay, it's a great one,

543
00:27:51,759 --> 00:27:53,519
so let it be written. So let it be done.

544
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 2: Next to see this time next year?

545
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: All right?

546
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,319
Speaker 5: Are we done with Hotel California.

547
00:27:59,559 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: We could go on four years just on this song,

548
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:03,519
but we got to do the whole album in less

549
00:28:03,519 --> 00:28:03,960
than an hour.

550
00:28:04,599 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 4: All right.

551
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,559
Speaker 2: Next song on the album is called New Kid in town.

552
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,799
Speaker 1: There's talk on the streets.

553
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 6: It sounds so.

554
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 4: Familiar Johnny cum Lately.

555
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Every freaking lyric on this album is poetry. They will

556
00:28:42,559 --> 00:28:45,559
never forget you until somebody new comes along.

557
00:28:45,599 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 3: That's it.

558
00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 2: Like, So this goes to the heart of the song,

559
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,720
which is this. They're at the height of their fame.

560
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,599
I mean the greatest hits is out right. They know

561
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,640
what's happening, Like it's like ding ding ding ding ding ding,

562
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,680
and what's going to happen when a new kid comes along.

563
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:06,640
They know you can't last river. They thought this band

564
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:07,799
might last a couple of years.

565
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:11,319
Speaker 5: The Eagles only recorded together for nine years before they're right.

566
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,039
Speaker 2: Well, that's nearly twice as long as the Beatles, So

567
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,079
that's pretty impressive. It's insane, right crazy.

568
00:29:17,119 --> 00:29:20,279
Speaker 5: So this was the first single, released December seventh, nineteen

569
00:29:20,319 --> 00:29:23,720
seventy six. It did reach number one on February twenty sixth,

570
00:29:23,799 --> 00:29:25,759
nineteen seventy seven. I Got I Gotta read these to

571
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:28,240
you real quick. This is the top five.

572
00:29:28,519 --> 00:29:32,359
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Top five February twenty sixth, nineteen seventy seven.

573
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: That's right, okay, I.

574
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 2: Like Dreaming by Kenny Nolan. I Got nothing No.

575
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 5: Number four, Fly Like an Eagle Steve Miller.

576
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,839
Speaker 2: Band, heck of a song, love It, Okay, yep.

577
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 5: Number three Blinded by the Light Manford.

578
00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 2: Man, Manford Man, Yeah, written by for springste three Springsteen. Yeah,

579
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:51,279
talk about a better cover than the original. That's right.

580
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 5: Number two Evergreen by Barbar Streisand Okay, my mom liked

581
00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,480
that saying okay, and then number one New in Town

582
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,039
love It. I just wanted to point something out that's

583
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,880
sort of obvious and sort of not obvious. This is

584
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,559
the only song on the album that Glenn Fry sings

585
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:08,920
lead on.

586
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

587
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: Well, and you know we're going to talk about the

588
00:30:13,079 --> 00:30:15,400
song that was promised to Don Felder a little bit

589
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,720
later and get into why this is the only song

590
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:20,200
that Glenn Fry sings in this album.

591
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,279
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know, we can point out the obvious

592
00:30:23,319 --> 00:30:26,160
and say, when you have Don Henley on your team,

593
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:28,279
he kind of needs to be center Mike.

594
00:30:28,599 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

595
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,799
Speaker 5: But to relegate Glenn Fry, I mean he has the

596
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,240
same number of songs that Randy Meiser has on this

597
00:30:34,319 --> 00:30:37,079
album and that Joe Walsh has on this album.

598
00:30:36,799 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: One more than Don fel Yeah, we'll talk about that right.

599
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,039
Speaker 5: This one the Grammy for Best Vocal Arrangement for two

600
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,759
or more voices. We told a story on Our Eagle's

601
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:52,319
Greatest Hits Volume one episode that we did last summer.

602
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:52,599
Speaker 4: Yeah.

603
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 5: Now, Glen Fry got his start in Detroit and he

604
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:57,400
was hanging around with this guy called Bob Seeger.

605
00:30:57,519 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever heard of him.

606
00:30:58,799 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 4: I did.

607
00:30:59,319 --> 00:31:01,079
Speaker 5: I have heard of him, and Bob Seger took an

608
00:31:01,079 --> 00:31:03,799
interest in Glenn Fry, took him under his wing, wanted

609
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,240
him to join the band, but Bob Seeger's band, Glenn

610
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,519
Fry's mom told him he could not do that. You

611
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:12,599
know why got him smoking pot with Bob Singer and

612
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,599
she was like, nope, not my son.

613
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: Uh huh.

614
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: So anyway, he moves out to la and he meets

615
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:19,440
this guy named JD.

616
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:20,559
Speaker 4: Souther. JD.

617
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:21,839
Speaker 2: Souther wrote some of.

618
00:31:21,759 --> 00:31:25,119
Speaker 5: The songs on Greatest Hits Volume one. He even has

619
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:30,279
the Golden Wiener Award we talked about for Peaceful Easy

620
00:31:30,279 --> 00:31:33,880
Feeling because at the Der Wiener Schnitzel and San Diego

621
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:35,680
he wrote that song in that booth.

622
00:31:35,799 --> 00:31:39,759
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, that's right. They awarded him the Golden Wiener.

623
00:31:40,839 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 5: Go back and listen to that episode that was a

624
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,839
great fun But this song was originally written by JD. Souther,

625
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,480
but he couldn't finish it. JAD Souther was this great

626
00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:51,200
starter but couldn't finish, so he brought it to Don

627
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,240
and Glenn. About a year later, they wrapped it up.

628
00:31:54,319 --> 00:31:56,599
By the way, JAD Souther helped write Best of My

629
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,640
Love and Heartache Tonight as well. Yeah, one more thing

630
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,039
about this song. You know, Glen Fry had made friends

631
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,880
with this guy named Jeane Carr who played hockey for

632
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,519
the La Kings. This is before Wayne Gretzky Okay, So

633
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:11,559
the Kings were like nothing right, I mean, you had

634
00:32:11,599 --> 00:32:16,200
the Lakers and then Kings. We play hockey in La Okay.

635
00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:19,039
But he was this guy that they brought in. They

636
00:32:19,079 --> 00:32:22,880
had big expectations for him and supposedly he was the

637
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,480
inspiration for new kid in Town.

638
00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:29,319
Speaker 2: Supposedly according to him. Well he did say that, but

639
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:31,279
I mean he was friends with Glenn Froy.

640
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 5: He was French with Glen Fry, and Glen Fry would

641
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,880
wear his jersey and concert.

642
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:38,759
Speaker 2: That's true, that's true. Maybe maybe I don't know.

643
00:32:41,519 --> 00:32:51,359
Speaker 8: Homeless movements here we talking, but after.

644
00:32:52,839 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: Luke it stoss Hart the.

645
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: Man Okay, So one of the things I love about

646
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:13,440
this song is the different transitions that they use from

647
00:33:13,599 --> 00:33:16,559
verse to chorus. Right, So, the first time, as you're

648
00:33:16,599 --> 00:33:20,279
listening to and it goes into the chorus, it's nothing.

649
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,400
It's just like a I'm just a smooth The guitar

650
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:27,559
just keeps playing. It's strumming, no big deal. Second time

651
00:33:27,799 --> 00:33:30,960
we get to the chorus, you hear Don Henley, even

652
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:36,240
though Glynn Fry is singing, yes, he goes does his

653
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,319
little Don Henley sprinkle of magic on there?

654
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:39,599
Speaker 1: Right?

655
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

656
00:33:40,079 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

657
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: And then the next time we get to the chorus,

658
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,720
you've gett Now. I'm pretty sure on this one. I'm

659
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,960
pretty sure that Joe Walsh is actually playing the keyboards

660
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,799
on this one. If i'm I might be mistaken. But

661
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:56,160
if it's not Joe Walsh, it's got to be Don

662
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,799
Felder who does this awesome Darren Aaron Arrow moves into

663
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:04,680
this dark you know. And then the end, I love

664
00:34:04,759 --> 00:34:07,920
the end. Everybody's talking. I don't want to hear it.

665
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:12,000
Everybody's talking. I don't want to hear it while, which

666
00:34:12,039 --> 00:34:14,159
is to me is like a little kid going la

667
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,119
la la la. I'm not doing that beautiful. It's a brilliant,

668
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:21,119
amazing song. It is, Yeah, it is.

669
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:40,119
Speaker 4: Just okay.

670
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:44,079
Speaker 2: So I know that Joe Walsh had a significant substance

671
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:48,199
abuse issue. That's putting a mildly. I also know that

672
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,559
Don Felder, who was probably the more straight laced of

673
00:34:51,639 --> 00:34:54,239
all of the guys in the band, starts off his

674
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,519
book with I walk on the stage for the Hotel

675
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:02,039
California tour, white powder still on my nostrils, and we

676
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,880
play I play that opening cord riff for Hotel California,

677
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,039
and I can see the crowd go wild because they

678
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:10,000
think we're going to close with it and we're opening

679
00:35:10,039 --> 00:35:12,519
with it. So he's doing some cocaine. Yes, Were they

680
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:13,800
all doing cocaine at this time?

681
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: Yeah?

682
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 5: In fact, Geezer Butler, who was in Black Sabbath, said

683
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,119
when they went to record in the same studio they

684
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:24,400
they had enough cocaine on the mixing board to have

685
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,559
a party.

686
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 2: On the mixing board. On the mixing board, not even

687
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:33,880
in with the instruments, that's where you need it, Like,

688
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:34,880
what are we doing here?

689
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 4: Just shake it all on to the table.

690
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Okay, So they must have had some pretty close friends.

691
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:39,159
There are drug dealers, I'm.

692
00:35:39,039 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 5: Guessing absolutely, So Glenn Fry had this buddy of his

693
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,519
named the Count, the Count, And you know why they

694
00:35:44,559 --> 00:35:45,000
called him the.

695
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,199
Speaker 2: Count because he counted the money, because he.

696
00:35:47,199 --> 00:35:51,599
Speaker 5: Did a poor job of counting, so they all called

697
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:54,079
him the Count. And he and the Count were in

698
00:35:54,119 --> 00:35:56,719
a car and they were going to a Eagles poker

699
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,719
game and the Count was driving like ninety miles an

700
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,760
hour on the freeway. This is back in the fifty

701
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,920
five miles per hour. You know, I can't drive fifty

702
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,039
five days, right right?

703
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 4: And Glynn Fry is like, dude, what you're driving like

704
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,039
a maniac. They're loaded up too, right right? Oh yeah,

705
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:11,960
they're not sobers.

706
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: The drug dealer is carrying right, he's fried and dirty.

707
00:36:15,039 --> 00:36:16,440
Oh yeah.

708
00:36:16,519 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 5: And Glyn Fry's like, dude, chill and this guy's like whatever, dude.

709
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:34,199
Speaker 9: There's Life in the fast Lane baby.

710
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,559
Speaker 2: That is flipping awesome.

711
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,079
Speaker 5: This song was the third single reached number eleven, did

712
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:41,239
not even crack.

713
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 4: The top ten. That's nice.

714
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, the opening riff. I told you the other day.

715
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,719
I called you and I said, what does Life in

716
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,000
the fast Lane by the Eagles and Sweet Child of

717
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Mine by Guns and Roses have in common?

718
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 4: Did I get it right?

719
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:51,559
Speaker 1: You?

720
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:53,199
Speaker 4: Did, Okay, I thought I did.

721
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,639
Speaker 2: I remembered specifically because we discussed the origin of Sweet

722
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,199
Child of Mine when we cover Guns and Roses Appetite

723
00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,440
for Destruction. Yes, I remember that it came from a

724
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:05,440
dumb warm up rift and all of a sudden that

725
00:37:05,559 --> 00:37:07,719
was like, oh wait, that's the same way that this

726
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,400
came up. Joe Walsh had a finger exercise that he

727
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,320
did to like it's difficult to do. This is a

728
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,679
hard freaking song to play. And he's over there practicing

729
00:37:17,039 --> 00:37:19,960
warming up, and Glenn Fry says, wait, what was that?

730
00:37:20,519 --> 00:37:22,679
Play that again? Yes, the.

731
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:26,199
Speaker 4: Great job.

732
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 2: It's Glen Air guitar.

733
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 4: Thank you.

734
00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 5: You know when you envision it, Glenn Fry says, whoa

735
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,599
what was that? In my envisioning, I think of like

736
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:39,239
cocaine all over his face, Like, dude.

737
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: What is that you just played?

738
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 4: That is a song? Yeah? Yeah, you know.

739
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:47,199
Speaker 5: The term life in the fast Lane in the American

740
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,880
lexicon comes from this song.

741
00:37:49,039 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: Really yes, no, yes, so lines on the mirror and

742
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:56,400
lines on their face as they're recording the song, Yes, for.

743
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 5: Sure, life in the fast Linge Baby, I love call

744
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:18,840
the doctor.

745
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,599
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna crash. Doctor said he's coming, but

746
00:38:21,679 --> 00:38:23,880
you gotta pay him cash. What doctor are we talking

747
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440
about here? Will this be doctor?

748
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:28,039
Speaker 4: Feel good? Doctor?

749
00:38:28,039 --> 00:38:28,599
Speaker 2: Feel good?

750
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 4: Hey?

751
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,679
Speaker 5: You know there's some there's some people mentioned in this song.

752
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: You know they were good and bad. You know he

753
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:38,239
was too tired to make it. She was too tired

754
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,559
to fight about it. You know.

755
00:38:39,639 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 5: It's rumored that this song was inspired by Lindsey Buckingham

756
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,639
and Stevie Nicks.

757
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,199
Speaker 4: Hm, I can see that.

758
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, third and final single off of this album.

759
00:38:52,639 --> 00:38:54,119
Speaker 2: Three singles, three singles.

760
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,519
Speaker 4: What I know? I've heard every song on this album

761
00:38:57,559 --> 00:38:58,639
on the radio at least once.

762
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: Is this the third best song on the album?

763
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:01,519
Speaker 1: No?

764
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:07,559
Speaker 5: I think there are It could be there. They're all fantastic. Yeah,

765
00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,800
but I will say this, if you are an Eagle's

766
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,920
Greatest Hits Volume two, guy, and that's all you know

767
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,920
from Hotel California, you're in for a treat.

768
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right.

769
00:39:15,559 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 2: Next song on the album is called Wasted Time.

770
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,599
Speaker 1: Well, babe, their youth game.

771
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 6: With your little hair down in your hand.

772
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,039
Speaker 5: We have a contender for greatest song outside of Hotel.

773
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:52,639
Speaker 4: California right here.

774
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so we've moved from life in the fast Lane

775
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,639
to life in the slow Lane, like if you're listening

776
00:39:58,679 --> 00:40:05,639
to that high Hat at the beginning that it's so slow,

777
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:09,480
but give me life in the slow lane because I

778
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:14,039
am spiking the football. This is outside of Hotel, California.

779
00:40:14,119 --> 00:40:15,840
The best song on the album.

780
00:40:18,159 --> 00:40:22,119
Speaker 4: I can't argue with that. It's be beautiful the.

781
00:40:22,119 --> 00:40:25,400
Speaker 5: Strings with Henley's voice, and actually it goes from really

782
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:30,400
slow to sort of really full, like finish is really strong.

783
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: The tempo does change a bit in the song, as

784
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,480
does the mood of the song. It's this concern when

785
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:39,360
you've reached the end of a relationship of you know,

786
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,280
was why did we do all this? Like why do

787
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,840
we go through all of this heartache? Why do we

788
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,119
spend all of this time together only for it to

789
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,280
be over? And then you have this kind of uplifting

790
00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:52,960
end to the song where it's like, well, even if

791
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,360
it's over, maybe we learned something. Maybe we became somebody

792
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,559
better because of it. Right, maybe it wasn't all just

793
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:00,400
waste time.

794
00:41:01,519 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 8: And the way in Math is Waytad's coming Gone.

795
00:41:24,559 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 2: I love it.

796
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,199
Speaker 4: It's poetic. Yeah, in fact I called you and told you.

797
00:41:28,559 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 5: Like the very last of the song, it changes and

798
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:33,639
I don't know how to describe it musically, you know.

799
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:34,199
Speaker 2: Better than I do.

800
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 4: But it becomes optimistic about the future.

801
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 2: Well, and I looked at the chord progression because I thought,

802
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,719
as I was listening to it, I'm like, melodically, it's

803
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,360
still the same melody. That the melody doesn't change, and

804
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,280
as he sings, maybe it wasn't all just wasted time.

805
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,679
As he sings that line, and it's like, oh, okay, maybe

806
00:41:52,679 --> 00:41:55,159
this is maybe think there's hope, right, you have that hope.

807
00:41:55,199 --> 00:41:57,480
But it's the same melody, same chord progression. But what

808
00:41:57,679 --> 00:42:01,159
changes is what comes after. And the the first time,

809
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,199
it transitions right back into the verse. Second time it

810
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,760
transitions into a bridge, and the bridge goes from a

811
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,760
flat to C and it's kind of melancholy even with that.

812
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,199
But what they do the last time, after they're done

813
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,800
with the verse, he goes from still a flat to

814
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,199
see but there's a chord in the middle. He plays

815
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,519
a B flat in the middle, which is how you

816
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:32,119
get that dome dome, dome, dome that build that doom doom,

817
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:33,440
doom doom.

818
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,039
Speaker 4: Like, oh, there's hope.

819
00:42:34,159 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: It's like the end of the movie, like, hey, I've

820
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,840
discovered this. Maybe there's still hope out there. It's that

821
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,440
little change, that subtle, little change to the chord progression

822
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,320
and building up to that sea that makes it hope.

823
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 4: I love it.

824
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 5: I heard Don Henley talking about how initially when he

825
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:55,880
recorded Desperado, they brought in the London Symphony yep. And

826
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,639
he was like, man, I gotta get this right. The

827
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,119
London Symphonies here. We're paying them a lot of money

828
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:03,760
and I've got to nail these notes. And he looked

829
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,159
around and he realized these guys are bored out.

830
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:07,559
Speaker 4: Of their minds.

831
00:43:09,159 --> 00:43:12,639
Speaker 5: He said, he's stressed and like trying to not, you know,

832
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:14,599
save money and save time and get these people where

833
00:43:14,599 --> 00:43:17,400
they need be. And he's he noticed that two guys

834
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,519
who are like trumpet players or whatever, they had.

835
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,159
Speaker 4: A chessboard between them and.

836
00:43:22,039 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 5: They they went between things, they would move the chess

837
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,360
piece so and I can kind of see it on

838
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,000
this one now.

839
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: I asked you if you knew who Laurie Redkin was.

840
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:33,519
I do not know.

841
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 5: Okay, Laurie Redkin was Don Henley's girlfriend that he was

842
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,199
going through a breakup with. And listen to this girl,

843
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,480
so I was as I looked into her, I'm like,

844
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:48,400
this is a this is a top shelf woman. Okay,

845
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,360
this is the girl that when you breaking up with her,

846
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:52,639
you're like, please don't leave me.

847
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 2: Right.

848
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 5: So she has made jewelry for Elizabeth Taylor and Michelle

849
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,079
Obama that she actually wore in the inauguration. Okay, so

850
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:07,840
this is like not nobody, right. She designed homes for

851
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,840
Alice Cooper, Rod Stewart, and Bernie Toppin who she also

852
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,440
dated and she managed Brad Pitt got him the part

853
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:20,239
in Thelma and Louise managed Robert Downey Junior during his

854
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:25,239
drugging days Wow, and Alexander Goodenoff during his diehard days.

855
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 4: Wow.

856
00:44:26,599 --> 00:44:30,159
Speaker 5: She also dated Richard gear and she inspired the lyrics.

857
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,679
Her mind is Tiffany twisted, and she got the Mercedes Benz.

858
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 4: So she's a slacker. What the heck? What a resume,

859
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:39,400
I'm telling you, man.

860
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:42,639
Speaker 2: Wow, Like talk about somebody who could keep up with

861
00:44:42,679 --> 00:44:45,880
Don Henley, I mean his need for perfection. Like there's

862
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,239
a go getter right there. My god, that's right.

863
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 5: I've got another funny Don Henley dating story.

864
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,559
Speaker 4: Okay, you want to drop it right here? Yeah.

865
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:54,559
Speaker 5: So Don Henley was at a party in the Hollywood

866
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,719
Hills eighty eight eighty nine somewhere in there, okay, and

867
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,360
Michelle Pfeiffer is there, and Don Henley thinking I'm gonna

868
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,960
shoot my shot. I'm gonna take my shot with Michelle Pfiffer.

869
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:09,239
I'm Don freaking Henley. Yeah, that's Michelle Pfeiffer. And apparently

870
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,039
she had just gone through a breakup, so she was

871
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:13,960
a little down, she was a little discouraged. And Jack

872
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:18,079
Nicholson is also in the room, right, So Don Henley

873
00:45:18,119 --> 00:45:21,400
goes up to Michelle Pfeiffer tries to kind of comfort

874
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,280
her in sort of a hey, do you want to

875
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,559
go out with me kind of way, and she totally

876
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:28,639
not interested.

877
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 4: Get away from me, U creep like, like I get

878
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,079
out of here, eles man.

879
00:45:35,679 --> 00:45:37,880
Speaker 5: So and she gets up and leaves, and he is

880
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,119
totally like embarrassed, humiliated at this party and he's sitting

881
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:50,800
there and Jack Nicholson goes nice, try Hanley, And that

882
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,480
story inspired the Don Henley song Last Worthless Evening.

883
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:05,360
Speaker 1: That's so.

884
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 2: The guy who arranged the strings for this album is

885
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,440
a guy named Jim ed Norman. We talked about him

886
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,920
back when we did our Greatest Hits album. Yes, he

887
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:15,239
of course, also arranged the strings for the next song

888
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,440
that we're about to listen to right, and the next year,

889
00:46:17,519 --> 00:46:20,559
nineteen seventy eight, he arranged the strings for Glenn Fry's

890
00:46:20,599 --> 00:46:23,960
good friend Bob Seeker and We've got Tonight, another great

891
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:24,679
string arrangement.

892
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:27,159
Speaker 5: Love it, Yeah, all right, it's stop at your tape player,

893
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,119
kick it out, flip it over for side two, and

894
00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:53,400
we start off side too with wasted Time reprise. I'm

895
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,599
an odd place for the reprise, don't.

896
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,119
Speaker 4: You think so?

897
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,519
Speaker 2: I know what the reasoning is behind this. Don Henley

898
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:02,639
talked about how this was a concept album and so

899
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,559
because it's a concept album, he wanted to not you know,

900
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,920
you don't want the division, and so he wanted to

901
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,880
tie side one inside two together. So that's why you

902
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:14,480
have the end of side one marrying up with the

903
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:17,280
beginning of side two in this reprise.

904
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 4: Which is fan fre fantastic.

905
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,559
Speaker 2: I mean it's awesome. I mean it totally reminds me

906
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,920
stylistically of eleanor Rigby by the Beatles. Just this beautiful

907
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,840
little it's such a good and it demonstrates that this

908
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:36,280
song is like it's like Broadway musical worthy instrumentation arrangement

909
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:37,199
all of this stuff.

910
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 5: These guys are no longer just country rock guys.

911
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,760
Speaker 2: No, Bernie's gone see you, Bernie, See Bernie, take your

912
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,960
banjo with you. Just kidding. I love all that stuff.

913
00:47:47,039 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do have one more story from Wasted Time.

914
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:54,320
So Black Sabbath would use the same studio as the

915
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,239
Eagles in Miami at Criterion when they would go to

916
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,000
la at a party whatever, right, and we talked about

917
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,559
how there was cocaine Oliver the mixer.

918
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:03,519
Speaker 1: Uh.

919
00:48:04,039 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 2: But when they were together.

920
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,159
Speaker 5: At the same time in Criterion, Black Sabbath was in

921
00:48:10,199 --> 00:48:12,440
the studio next to the Eagles and they were working

922
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,519
really hard on Wasted Time, which of course is a

923
00:48:14,519 --> 00:48:17,599
soft song, and Black Sabbath was playing so loud that

924
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:19,800
it interfered with the recording of Wasted Time.

925
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 2: When you when you build a recording studio, you build

926
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,119
it so that you don't hear stuff between the walls.

927
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,760
Black Sabbath said, hold my beer.

928
00:48:29,079 --> 00:48:31,199
Speaker 5: Okay, next song on the album. Next song on the

929
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:33,280
album is called Victim of Love.

930
00:48:56,199 --> 00:48:58,559
Speaker 1: Kind of have you got?

931
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: Around About nineteen sixty two, a young fifteen year old

932
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:07,400
Don Felder gets off the bus at the bus station

933
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,280
and is met by this guy with crazy curly hair

934
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,719
and a really cool car that says, hey, you don Yeah,

935
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:20,079
and he's like yeah. He's like, my name's Bernie. Bernie

936
00:49:20,119 --> 00:49:23,800
leading shakes hands and he's like okay, and he's like,

937
00:49:24,159 --> 00:49:26,159
I just came from your house. Your mom said that

938
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,280
you're getting dropped off by the bus over here. You

939
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,800
are ride home. And he's like yeah. Because kids didn't

940
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,639
know any better than not getting the car with strangers

941
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:36,119
back then, and they looked pretty close to the same age,

942
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:37,840
So I figured out, okay, all right, it's gonna be

943
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,519
all right. So what Bernie had done Bernie had just

944
00:49:40,599 --> 00:49:43,800
moved to Gainesville, Florida. He went to the local guitar

945
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,320
store that was the best guitar store in sat town

946
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:49,199
and said, who's the best guitarist in town? And what

947
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,000
they told him was Don.

948
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 5: Feld Don fingers Felder.

949
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,119
Speaker 2: Now what happened after that was that they formed a

950
00:49:57,119 --> 00:50:00,239
band together, and then Bernie got tired of trying to

951
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,400
make it in Gainesville and said, we got to get

952
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,039
out of here. We got to either go to New

953
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:07,320
York or we gotta go to California. And Don Felder,

954
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,599
who had already had trouble with his love life. I'll

955
00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:12,960
tell that story in a minute. Also with his parents,

956
00:50:13,159 --> 00:50:15,679
I was like, sheeese man, I can't. I just can't.

957
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,639
I can't leave everything at this point, so Bernie leaves

958
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,960
and Don's left alone until eventually he comes out to California,

959
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,880
works as a session musician a little bit, and Bernie,

960
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:29,760
when Glenn Fry says, listen, we keep playing these country

961
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,400
songs and you're the country guitarist, but when you sing

962
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,119
these country songs, I'm the one that has to play

963
00:50:34,119 --> 00:50:36,519
the lead guitar. That doesn't make any sense. We need

964
00:50:36,519 --> 00:50:40,760
another guitarist. We need to have three guitars. And Bernie says, well,

965
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,599
I know a guy and brings Don Felder and the

966
00:50:43,679 --> 00:50:48,960
band Throughout this story. The through line is great guitarist,

967
00:50:49,400 --> 00:51:05,039
maybe not the best singer.

968
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,760
Speaker 5: So along with that, this is one of the songs

969
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:13,039
that Don Felder created the bed of musical pillows for

970
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,039
Don Henley to lay the lyrics song.

971
00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 2: When JD.

972
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:19,159
Speaker 5: Souther, Glenn Fry, and Don Henley got together to write

973
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:24,719
lyrics on Don Felder's musical idea, they talked about.

974
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 2: How you know, what are we going to write about?

975
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:27,159
And JD.

976
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 5: Souther made the comedy said, you know, breaking up with

977
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,360
somebody is sort of like being a victim of.

978
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:34,320
Speaker 4: A car crash.

979
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 5: And they are like, I really like that term victim,

980
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,519
And so that's where they came up with victim of love.

981
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they wrote the lyrics.

982
00:51:41,519 --> 00:51:45,559
Speaker 5: To Don Felder's song Now because Don Felder had brought

983
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,480
this song to the guys. He was under the impression

984
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:51,760
that he was going to sing lead vocal on this song.

985
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

986
00:51:52,360 --> 00:51:56,679
Speaker 2: His idea was, I had been promised to finally get

987
00:51:56,679 --> 00:51:59,159
to sing a song on one of these albums.

988
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 4: Now keep him.

989
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,519
Speaker 2: He joined the band after they were already a success,

990
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,440
that's right. They had already had plenty of success with

991
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:11,760
just the with the four original guys, Randy, Bernie, Don

992
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,920
and Glenn. And so he comes in and he's think

993
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:17,599
he thinks he's just gonna play as assessin musician. So

994
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:20,199
Glenn calls him and says, hey, man, do you want

995
00:52:20,199 --> 00:52:22,800
to join the band? And I mean, duh, of course,

996
00:52:23,559 --> 00:52:27,840
but he wants to sing and he's fine as a

997
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:32,039
backup harmony singer. But they keep saying, no, we got

998
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:35,039
a couple of guys who can sing pretty good, you know,

999
00:52:35,679 --> 00:52:38,000
And and they're not and even the third guy is

1000
00:52:38,039 --> 00:52:40,280
a better singer than you, like, I mean, Randy's a

1001
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:41,119
really good singer.

1002
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 5: I mean Don, Glenn, Randy, and Joe can sing.

1003
00:52:46,199 --> 00:52:49,159
Speaker 4: Joe has a weird voice, but yeah, but yeah.

1004
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Glynn was like, well, our

1005
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,960
harmonies won't quite be quite as good.

1006
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 4: But the man, are we gonna rock?

1007
00:52:55,559 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: That's it. That's so yeah. So he gets the idea

1008
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,119
that he's gonna be singing a song on this album,

1009
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:05,079
which Joe had one, Randy had one, Randy had one,

1010
00:53:05,159 --> 00:53:08,400
Glenn had one, Glenn had one, Don had the rest.

1011
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,760
Speaker 4: But there's a reason. It's Don freaking Henley.

1012
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,519
Speaker 2: And this goes back to what you were saying about

1013
00:53:16,519 --> 00:53:20,320
Glenn only having one song on this album. Even Glenn realized, hey,

1014
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,119
I don't need to sing the songs because we have

1015
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,119
Don Henley. We have Don Henley, that's right.

1016
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,599
Speaker 5: So Felder was intent on singing Victim of Love yep,

1017
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,639
and and did and did and tried and.

1018
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: Took a dozen dimes.

1019
00:53:34,039 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 5: It took a lot of shots at it. And then

1020
00:53:36,599 --> 00:53:37,320
when he had his.

1021
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: Back turned well, Irving Azof is like, it was my

1022
00:53:40,519 --> 00:53:42,599
job to take to take him to lunch or dinner

1023
00:53:42,639 --> 00:53:45,599
and go this is not really gonna work out. And literally,

1024
00:53:45,679 --> 00:53:48,719
while he was being broken up with in a way,

1025
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,760
you know, while he was having his heart broken, they're

1026
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,800
gonna go ahead it. They're they're in the studio with

1027
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,960
Don singing the lead to the song, and you know what,

1028
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:57,480
they made the right choice.

1029
00:53:57,559 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 5: They made the right choice. But isn't the right to

1030
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:03,159
always let Don sing? We talked about in private eyes

1031
00:54:03,199 --> 00:54:06,440
with Hall of Oates, like Daryl Hall should sing every song.

1032
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:07,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

1033
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,079
Speaker 5: Here's my take on this. Yeah, So in one hand,

1034
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,599
I'm like, I could listen to Don Henley sing the

1035
00:54:12,639 --> 00:54:15,320
phone Book and I just think his voice is just

1036
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:16,079
so amazing.

1037
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:16,599
Speaker 4: I love it.

1038
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, And so on one hand, I do see that

1039
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:23,360
argument that Don should sing everything. And if you want

1040
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,559
to give Glenn Glenn should Glenn's a great singer.

1041
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 2: Well, the thing is is that Glenn started singing, Like

1042
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,440
Glenn's been singing with him since the beginning, and so

1043
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:35,400
has Randy and Joe has had a successful career where

1044
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,480
he sang that's it. Like they all have a track

1045
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:42,639
record of success. Randy's first song that he sang is

1046
00:54:42,679 --> 00:54:43,960
their first number one.

1047
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 5: Hit, Take It to the Limit is one of the

1048
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,400
greatest Eagles songs. Absolutely, and that's a Randy Meisner song

1049
00:54:49,519 --> 00:54:51,400
through and through. Yeah, we'll talk about that here in

1050
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:54,559
just a second. Shure, Okay, But I just think taking

1051
00:54:54,639 --> 00:54:57,320
him out to lunch and recording the vocals while he's

1052
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:01,119
you know, distracted, is not cool at all. And these

1053
00:55:01,159 --> 00:55:04,199
guys are far from cool, and a lot of respects

1054
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:05,280
not about being cool to them.

1055
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 4: I know, Yeah, I know.

1056
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:08,599
Speaker 2: And so I understand why Felder's upset.

1057
00:55:08,679 --> 00:55:12,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, but even he was like, I understand because we

1058
00:55:12,599 --> 00:55:16,039
had Henley right, my voice was not going to stand

1059
00:55:16,119 --> 00:55:17,079
up to that kind of screaty.

1060
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 2: But he but his his thought was, nobody's voice does

1061
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:24,519
like you're saying, nobody's voice, and that's fair. But I

1062
00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:27,840
don't know, like depending on the type of music, like

1063
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,079
Pretty Maids All in a Row wouldn't sound right if

1064
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,960
Don Henley was singing it, you needed that weird sounding

1065
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:34,840
voice to sing it. I will tell you this.

1066
00:55:35,039 --> 00:55:38,599
Speaker 5: When I heard Glenn fry went on David Letterman and

1067
00:55:38,639 --> 00:55:40,519
Glenn Fryes sang Desperado.

1068
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:41,519
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

1069
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:43,119
Speaker 2: Now, keep in mind Glen fry.

1070
00:55:43,159 --> 00:55:48,760
Speaker 5: Great singer, successful solo artist, number one hits even or close.

1071
00:55:48,679 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 4: Heat is on I think number two whatever.

1072
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,079
Speaker 5: It when seeing listen to somebody else sing Desperado, it

1073
00:55:55,119 --> 00:55:56,239
doesn't quite work as.

1074
00:55:56,119 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: Well, you know, so it doesn't sound like the Eagles.

1075
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,079
It's not what's best for the Eagles, was was the

1076
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:03,760
answer he got to his complaint.

1077
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.

1078
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: And I still think they're right.

1079
00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 4: They're right, of course they're right. Yeah, just not very cool.

1080
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:12,159
Speaker 2: If you if you have Don Velder singing this song,

1081
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,320
you now have a flawed album. And this this album

1082
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:20,360
is a flawless album. So it would be the scratch

1083
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:21,960
on the brand new Mercedes bins.

1084
00:56:22,199 --> 00:56:24,599
Speaker 5: That's fair, And it doesn't make Greatest Hits Volume two.

1085
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:27,000
This song was the b side by the way to

1086
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,119
New Kid in Town.

1087
00:56:28,519 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 2: Oh, which, of course that makes sense that they would

1088
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:31,920
get lots of radio play.

1089
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:34,840
Speaker 5: Back then, they expected both songs to get radio play.

1090
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,559
It wasn't like it's a trash song, right. I love

1091
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:40,320
this song. I know every word to this song. It

1092
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,480
may be my least favorite song on the album, though,

1093
00:56:42,679 --> 00:56:44,719
oh wow, but I still think it's great.

1094
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: Absolutely. That's how good this album is.

1095
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair.

1096
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 5: The worst song on the album makes still greatest hits.

1097
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:54,519
Speaker 2: Absolutely ugliest Playboy play me, Yeah, great, right whatever.

1098
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 5: Right, by the way, I just want to throw this

1099
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,480
out there because we we have mentioned this, but July thirty,

1100
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,000
first night, Senator Alan Cranston is having a benefit concert

1101
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,840
that Glenn is intent on the Eagles supporting.

1102
00:57:07,079 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Don he's a big environmental guy. That's Don

1103
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,719
obviously is We will get to that in just a minute,

1104
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,880
Don Henley. Don Henley is a big environmental guy, and

1105
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:16,519
so yeah.

1106
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,239
Speaker 4: And Felder is like, whatever, what are we doing? Who's

1107
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:19,719
this guy?

1108
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,679
Speaker 2: You know, he didn't want to be doing stuff that

1109
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,000
wasn't making the money. They were doing this for charity,

1110
00:57:24,119 --> 00:57:25,840
and he was like, I don't understand. I don't see

1111
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,119
the point. He's like, it never was political. Still not political. Yeah,

1112
00:57:29,159 --> 00:57:31,960
and but this is the moment, like this is the

1113
00:57:32,079 --> 00:57:34,920
pen and this is the nail in the coffee, this

1114
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:38,840
is the straw that broke it. But Alan Cranston is

1115
00:57:39,039 --> 00:57:42,679
saying thank you, greeting everybody, right, you know, he's thanking

1116
00:57:42,719 --> 00:57:46,119
the band one by one, says to Don Felder, thank you,

1117
00:57:46,159 --> 00:57:49,519
and Don Felder's like, you're welcome, and then he turns

1118
00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,519
and is continuing his thank yous, and Don Felder goes,

1119
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:58,599
I guess yeah, and Glenn Fried just the fuse gets

1120
00:57:58,599 --> 00:58:02,000
slit and it just gets hot and hotter, and they're

1121
00:58:02,039 --> 00:58:07,559
playing the benefit concert that night, hotter and hot. He's like,

1122
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,039
I walked and I was just going for a walk,

1123
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:12,760
and I just kept getting madder and madder.

1124
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:13,719
Speaker 4: And then we're on.

1125
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,239
Speaker 2: Stage and I just kept looking at him like I'm

1126
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:19,639
as soon as this concert is over, like he was.

1127
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,079
Speaker 4: He was salivating to beat his ass.

1128
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 5: Three more songs to like kick your ass, pal, and

1129
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,559
he was and Felder's like, bring it, let's go, dude,

1130
00:58:30,679 --> 00:58:32,920
let's get it on. And I think part of that

1131
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,159
frustration may come from a.

1132
00:58:35,199 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 4: Victim of love.

1133
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:40,960
Speaker 5: Oh of course, I mean it's years of disagreements, but yeah,

1134
00:58:41,079 --> 00:58:42,320
there's hard feelings.

1135
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: Here for sure.

1136
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:45,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I love that Like that Bill Simsic was

1137
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,679
recording the banter that was going on between them on

1138
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,400
the stage. The last is their last concert, right, And

1139
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,480
I mean I didn't know it, but that way it was,

1140
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,280
that's right. They didn't know that this was it the

1141
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,119
Travis Trippan right until well.

1142
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 4: We'll get there, okay.

1143
00:59:03,639 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 2: But but one of the guys is like, yeah, he

1144
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,360
was like I'm gonna I'm gonna kick your ass and

1145
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,599
then it cuts him and he's not what he says.

1146
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:13,480
He says, I'm.

1147
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:18,639
Speaker 4: Going to kill you. I love it.

1148
00:59:18,719 --> 00:59:19,119
Speaker 2: I love it.

1149
00:59:19,159 --> 00:59:21,719
Speaker 5: And then when that it finally does end, and like,

1150
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:22,639
let's get it on.

1151
00:59:22,719 --> 00:59:25,039
Speaker 2: I mean, let's see this fight. He makes a bake,

1152
00:59:25,199 --> 00:59:26,239
he makes a break for it.

1153
00:59:26,519 --> 00:59:30,079
Speaker 5: He smashes his guitar for what and jumps in the

1154
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:31,480
limo and speeds off.

1155
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, why why smash the guitar? What does that mean?

1156
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:36,719
I mean, are you gonna are you gonna hit.

1157
00:59:36,679 --> 00:59:38,039
Speaker 4: Him with it? You're gonna hit it with it?

1158
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 2: Don't smash it first, smash it over him, and then

1159
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,599
he high tails it into a limo, and and and

1160
00:59:43,639 --> 00:59:44,840
with his tail between his legs.

1161
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 5: And Glenn Fry's parting shot was just like you to

1162
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:51,840
smash your cheap guitar, Felders like whatever that brand name.

1163
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,599
Speaker 4: Is, Takamini.

1164
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you because you said that Glenn had struck

1165
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,559
a deal Takamini, which I mean, I own a Tacamini

1166
00:59:57,559 --> 01:00:00,199
twelve string and I love it. They're great guitar, but

1167
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:04,119
they're not expensive guitars. They're cheap guitars comparatively speaking, something

1168
01:00:04,159 --> 01:00:05,440
like a Martin or something like that.

1169
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,559
Speaker 5: And so and Felder says, I don't I don't play

1170
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:12,800
a Martin because of your stupid record deal. So it's

1171
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,119
a lot of back and forth, and that was the

1172
01:00:15,239 --> 01:00:17,239
end of the Eagles at that moment for a while,

1173
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:17,800
for a while.

1174
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:18,719
Speaker 2: Next song on the album.

1175
01:00:19,719 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 5: Next song on the album is called Pretty Maids All

1176
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:26,280
in a Row.

1177
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: It's been a lot, so you tell me that the

1178
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,360
next song is going to be a Joe Walsh song.

1179
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,239
I'm shocked as crap that it starts off with this

1180
01:00:52,519 --> 01:00:56,199
slow piano riff. It's beautiful, it's wonderful, but it's just

1181
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:59,800
like I'm expecting. I'm expecting guitar guitar riff. I'm expecting

1182
01:01:00,199 --> 01:01:02,599
in this batfast Lane or Rocky Mountain High, something like that.

1183
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:08,360
But you get this slow, beautiful piano introduction and then Joe.

1184
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:11,079
He doesn't sound like the rest of the guys, but

1185
01:01:11,159 --> 01:01:14,679
he's perfect on this song. This is perfect for him. Somehow.

1186
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,559
It reminds, you know what it does. It reminds me

1187
01:01:16,599 --> 01:01:18,760
of a Randy Newman song. Like I never thought Randy

1188
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,159
Newman was that great of a singer, but he just

1189
01:01:21,559 --> 01:01:24,440
the character that he has in his voice makes his

1190
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,639
songs great, which, by the way, I didn't realize this.

1191
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:28,719
The Eagles freaking sang on Little People.

1192
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 4: Did you know this?

1193
01:01:29,639 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, Randy Newman's the little People they were. They

1194
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,760
were helping him out with it. They're playing, playing, me,

1195
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,679
playing and singing in the background. I had no idea

1196
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:38,840
until like an hour ago that was the case.

1197
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: Wow.

1198
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,239
Speaker 2: But anyway, sidebar there this song.

1199
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:43,199
Speaker 4: I can remember.

1200
01:01:43,239 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 2: I've listened to this album, you know, in preparation, I've

1201
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,480
listened to this album many times, but in preparation, I've

1202
01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:50,559
listened to it three or four times, Yes, all the

1203
01:01:50,599 --> 01:01:53,199
way through it. Yeah, gets to this song every single time.

1204
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:55,719
I just kind of stop and I just soak in

1205
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,840
the beauty of the music of this song.

1206
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 4: It's one. It is so good. It is so ridiculously good.

1207
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1208
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,719
Speaker 5: And it goes back to what we were saying. It's

1209
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,679
not enough to say there are no skippers on this album, right,

1210
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,760
Every song could be a hit. Yes, And they released

1211
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,599
three out of whatever ten or whatever it is.

1212
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean this was a song that they

1213
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,360
kept on playing when Hell froze over fourteen years later,

1214
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:20,639
I heard him play this yeah.

1215
01:02:20,679 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1216
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,760
Speaker 5: By the way, in twenty twenty, Bob Dylan said this

1217
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:26,840
could be one of the best songs ever written. It's

1218
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,880
great and it's it's not even good enough to be

1219
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:29,760
released as a single.

1220
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,239
Speaker 2: Well, three out of all of the songs on this album,

1221
01:02:34,039 --> 01:02:37,519
we're singles, like they're all potentially chart toppers.

1222
01:02:37,679 --> 01:02:43,559
Speaker 5: Yes, tell me the Joe Walsh Jimmy Page story.

1223
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,679
Speaker 2: Oh so this would have been I can't remember if

1224
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:49,360
it's sixty seven, sixty nine?

1225
01:02:49,519 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 4: Yep?

1226
01:02:50,039 --> 01:02:54,599
Speaker 2: Okay, So sixty nine was the year that Zeppelin released

1227
01:02:54,599 --> 01:02:57,920
its first album. Okay, right, yep. You ask any guitar

1228
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,760
player who knows who led Zeppelin is what did Jimmy

1229
01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,400
Page play? And he played a bunch of stuff, but

1230
01:03:02,519 --> 01:03:05,199
you saw him ninety percent of the time he is

1231
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:08,400
playing a gibson less Paul, which I mean, big deal.

1232
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,000
Speaker 4: That's what a whole bunch of people play. But Jimmy

1233
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:13,239
Page is just known for this gibson less Paul.

1234
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,239
Speaker 2: That's right. Turns out he bought it from Joe Walsh

1235
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:16,480
for like.

1236
01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:18,639
Speaker 4: Twelve twelve hundred bucks.

1237
01:03:18,719 --> 01:03:20,960
Speaker 2: But it's twelve hundred and sixty nine dollars, so you know,

1238
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,599
I don't know what that is. Now, Hold on a chick,

1239
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:26,599
it's close to eleven thousand dollars, So it wasn't I mean,

1240
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,360
the James Gang had had their hits and Zeppelins obviously

1241
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,599
on the road to becoming big, so it was not nothing.

1242
01:03:34,719 --> 01:03:38,639
Speaker 5: Joe Walsh sold Jimmy Page his iconic guitar.

1243
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,639
Speaker 4: It's crazy that nineteen fifty nine list, Paul Yep. All right,

1244
01:03:42,719 --> 01:03:44,320
I got a couple of Joe Walsh storys for you

1245
01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:45,960
and I love. Okay.

1246
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:50,159
Speaker 5: So does the name Patrick Laberteaux ring a bell with

1247
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:50,599
you at all?

1248
01:03:51,199 --> 01:03:51,519
Speaker 4: Okay?

1249
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 5: You've seen him. He's a working actor. He was in

1250
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:58,239
the TV show Jag, he was in the movie Summer School,

1251
01:03:58,519 --> 01:03:59,840
and he was on Little House in.

1252
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,119
Speaker 4: The p when he was a little kid.

1253
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:06,039
Speaker 5: Okay, And being that he was a child actor, super

1254
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:07,679
famous for being on a Little House on the prairie.

1255
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:08,239
Speaker 4: Okay.

1256
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:11,119
Speaker 5: But transitioning from a child actor to an adult actor

1257
01:04:11,199 --> 01:04:15,199
is sometimes hard, sure, and so he had some down years.

1258
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,920
And while he was trying to stay alive in La,

1259
01:04:18,239 --> 01:04:22,119
he was delivering food to pay the bills. And when

1260
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:24,320
he showed up at this house, he rang the doorbell

1261
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:26,559
and the lady invited him in. He said, she had

1262
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:29,800
the biggest sex hair you've ever seen, and just like barely.

1263
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:32,079
Speaker 2: Had any clothes on. Come on in, you know whatever.

1264
01:04:32,199 --> 01:04:33,239
Speaker 4: So he goes in and.

1265
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:36,239
Speaker 5: He's handing her the pizzas or whatever, and she looks

1266
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:36,880
at him and she.

1267
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,440
Speaker 4: Goes, hey, you were on Little House on the Prairie.

1268
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:43,239
And he's like, oh god, somebody recognized me, you know, yeah,

1269
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,599
delivering pizza, delivering pizzas. And she recognized me from a

1270
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:47,079
Little House.

1271
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 2: And she's like, I love Little House. I used to

1272
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:50,320
watch it all the time.

1273
01:04:51,159 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: What in the world are you delivering pizza for?

1274
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 5: And he's just embarrassed and humiliated, and she's going on

1275
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,480
and on about this yeah, and she calls up to

1276
01:05:00,519 --> 01:05:01,000
her boyfriend.

1277
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 4: She's like, get down here.

1278
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:03,119
Speaker 2: You're not even gonna believe it.

1279
01:05:03,639 --> 01:05:05,719
Speaker 4: The guy from the Little House in the Prairie delivered

1280
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:06,320
our pizza.

1281
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 5: And so the boyfriend comes down the stairs and is like,

1282
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,199
what are you railing about.

1283
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,199
Speaker 4: She's like, this dude was in.

1284
01:05:16,159 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 1: Little Ouls on the Prairie.

1285
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: Now he's delivered pizzas. Can you believe it?

1286
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:24,599
Speaker 5: And Patrick Laborata looks up and he says, that's Joe Walsh.

1287
01:05:25,559 --> 01:05:27,840
And Joe Walsh looks at him and goes, you're in

1288
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,599
a little house in the prairie and he's like, yeah,

1289
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:34,000
he goes I used to be in the Eagles, takes

1290
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:39,400
the pizza, goes in and eats, and he talked about

1291
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,440
how that really let him off the hook.

1292
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:43,519
Speaker 4: Oh it felt great. That's wonderful.

1293
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: I just can't I can't not talk about how awesome

1294
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,440
Joe Walsh is. Like he's obviously this party animals. He's

1295
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:55,760
funny and quirky. I mean, you see him wearing a

1296
01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,440
bug mask made out of tinfoil and some of the

1297
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,280
old interviews and then and convulsing and dying on Don

1298
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,280
Felder's lap. He's just such a crazy dude. But he

1299
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:10,039
has this wonderful part at the beginning of the History

1300
01:06:10,039 --> 01:06:12,880
of the Eagles documentary where he's like talking about this

1301
01:06:13,239 --> 01:06:17,719
philosopher and he kind of rambles it a bit, but basically,

1302
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,000
it's like, as things are happening to you in your life,

1303
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:25,199
you know, it's just like you think they're chaotic and unrelated,

1304
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:28,039
and this happens, and that happens. These things happen, and

1305
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:31,000
you're just thinking, oh, it's just chaos and madness in

1306
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:33,159
my life. And then you reach a certain age and

1307
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:37,000
you look back and you think, wow, it's like the

1308
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:42,519
perfectly crafted novel, and I was like, man, Joe Walsh

1309
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:47,119
is a smart dude. He just hides his intelligence behind

1310
01:06:47,159 --> 01:06:49,400
all that crazy wacky behavior that he does.

1311
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:53,559
Speaker 5: I got Joe Walsh's story that involves our buddy, our

1312
01:06:53,639 --> 01:06:56,400
co friend, Jay Hudson, Okay, who we play poker with

1313
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:57,880
over at Matt Mercer's house.

1314
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,119
Speaker 4: Hey, j what's that Jay?

1315
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 5: Jay was working at a company, and Jay's like the

1316
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:05,800
company account He's like the CFO. He's a big wig

1317
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,119
at the company. And he had on his iTunes on shuffle.

1318
01:07:10,039 --> 01:07:12,239
He went to the bathroom or whatever, and he came back.

1319
01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:15,119
His assistant was in their office waiting on him, and

1320
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:19,559
as his iTunes are shuffling through the songs. As he

1321
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,800
walks in, he realizes that Joe Walsh's song I Like

1322
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:28,360
Big Tits is playing trying to call him.

1323
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: Here comes that's a.

1324
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,079
Speaker 5: At like eighty decimals. Well, his assistant is in there

1325
01:07:42,159 --> 01:07:45,760
asking what to do about this project. So, uh, Joe

1326
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,199
Walsh is an American treasure.

1327
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I didn't realize it until you sent me

1328
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:53,960
this thing. But if you watch David Letterman on any

1329
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:57,599
regular basis, which I did as a young man at

1330
01:07:57,639 --> 01:08:00,559
some point he develops this catchphrase, like, and he's doing

1331
01:08:00,599 --> 01:08:03,360
his opening monologue at the beginning, if things are awkward

1332
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:05,719
and and the joke doesn't go well, or he just

1333
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:07,800
doesn't like the joke or whatever, he's he's just kind

1334
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,559
of aust his tie, like Rodney Dangerfielding's like, you got

1335
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:13,599
any gum? Yeah, you got any gum? I had no

1336
01:08:13,719 --> 01:08:16,760
idea that this came from the Joe wall story behind

1337
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,760
his album Got Any Gum. That's exactly right, So tell

1338
01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:20,199
that story.

1339
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:23,119
Speaker 5: So Joe Walsh was talking about how he was working

1340
01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:24,640
on this album. They didn't have a name for it,

1341
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,800
but he was walking to the studio and he sees

1342
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,600
a homeless guy coming and he's like, oh crap, I

1343
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:31,920
don't want to get bogged down with this. And so

1344
01:08:32,079 --> 01:08:34,359
as the guy's approaching, he's already reaching in his pocket

1345
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,279
for change to just kind of throw at him and

1346
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:38,439
go away and leave me alone. And he reaches in

1347
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,760
his pocket and as he approaches this homeless guy, he

1348
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,720
pulls out his hand. He's got change in his pocket,

1349
01:08:43,119 --> 01:08:46,039
and the homeless guy goes, Oh, I don't need any money,

1350
01:08:46,079 --> 01:08:47,600
I just want to see if you had any gump.

1351
01:08:48,199 --> 01:08:49,039
Speaker 4: He got any gump.

1352
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, that's great, all right.

1353
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 5: Next song on the album, this song is called try

1354
01:08:57,039 --> 01:08:57,600
and Love Again.

1355
01:09:32,039 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 2: So this song is fantastic.

1356
01:09:34,039 --> 01:09:35,079
Speaker 4: I love it.

1357
01:09:35,079 --> 01:09:38,119
Speaker 2: It's I love it wonderful and I would probably put

1358
01:09:38,119 --> 01:09:40,439
it at the bottom of the list of those songs

1359
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:42,399
on this album if I had to rank them all,

1360
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,439
it's on the bottom.

1361
01:09:43,560 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 4: I'd listen to it every day.

1362
01:09:45,159 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 2: It's fantastic.

1363
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:46,800
Speaker 4: It's crazy, right.

1364
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,840
Speaker 2: It's not Take It to the Limit, but it is.

1365
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:49,439
It's still a.

1366
01:09:49,399 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 4: Great, great and it's so bittersweet.

1367
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,600
Speaker 2: It's this moment where you realize your relationship is coming

1368
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:59,039
to an end and you're you're thinking about when.

1369
01:09:58,880 --> 01:09:59,359
Speaker 4: It was good.

1370
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 2: You were remembering when it was good. And maybe that's

1371
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,880
a love relationship between a man and a woman, or

1372
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:07,760
maybe it's between a bass player and his band.

1373
01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 5: So this is Randy's last album with the Eagles, and

1374
01:10:11,359 --> 01:10:14,760
one of the problems that he had was every night

1375
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,960
it was expected. One of their encore songs was take

1376
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:28,640
It to the Limit. Yeah, and take It to the

1377
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,760
Limit has a lot of high notes, and if you

1378
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,520
are out partying and not taking care of yourself, it

1379
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:35,920
can be hard to hit those notes.

1380
01:10:36,039 --> 01:10:38,319
Speaker 2: All of vodka and a couple of lovely ladies and

1381
01:10:38,399 --> 01:10:39,119
a lot of blow.

1382
01:10:39,399 --> 01:10:43,479
Speaker 5: So they're backstage one night and he tells the guys

1383
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:47,319
like they've performed the concert. He's backstage, they're waiting to encore,

1384
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,199
and he's like, guys, I can't do it tonight, and

1385
01:10:49,239 --> 01:10:53,119
Glenn Fry's like, dude, there's fifty thousand screaming people out

1386
01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:54,399
there who are expecting you.

1387
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 2: It's more than it. And Glenn Fry is right, it's

1388
01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,079
more than that at least. I mean, you think, how

1389
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:02,800
many times did you watch the Eagles, like once, me too,

1390
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:06,520
one time. Yeah, So for that one moment in my life,

1391
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:10,000
It's true, I wanted to hear certain songs and for

1392
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:13,319
people in the seventies who were coming to an Eagles concert,

1393
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,600
for a lot of them, I mean there were probably

1394
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,680
people that saw many shows, but for a lot of them,

1395
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,520
this would be the only show that they ever got

1396
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:19,840
to see.

1397
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,239
Speaker 4: It's true, a song that.

1398
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:23,279
Speaker 2: Has stood the test of time doesn't matter if it's

1399
01:11:23,279 --> 01:11:25,680
a year or two later. Right, they came, and they

1400
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,439
all they want is to hear that song. And to

1401
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:31,600
deny them that because you decided to party too hard

1402
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,439
the night before is bull crap.

1403
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 4: It is bull crap.

1404
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,640
Speaker 2: It's bull crap. It's you're not doing your job.

1405
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 5: That's true, that's true. I don't necessarily think that Glenn

1406
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:46,880
Fry is a pep you up kind of guy, Like

1407
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,239
he's like, if you do your job.

1408
01:11:49,319 --> 01:11:51,119
Speaker 2: I think he led with I think he lied with

1409
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:53,520
come on, these these people have spent a lot of

1410
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,640
money to hear you play that song. And he was

1411
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:57,760
just like, and Randy was just like, I just don't

1412
01:11:57,760 --> 01:11:59,479
want to sing it. You know, he's not the alpha,

1413
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,159
he's the one guy who was not an outpha in

1414
01:12:01,159 --> 01:12:03,600
this group. He was being want to sing it. And

1415
01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:06,359
after he's trying to stand his ground for the one

1416
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:08,520
time you know that he's going to do it, and

1417
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,640
Glenn Fry, after trying to reason with him, just says,

1418
01:12:12,119 --> 01:12:15,760
well you then, yeah, why don't you quit? And and

1419
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:19,880
like bows up and gets ready to yeah, And and

1420
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:24,159
the cops come over and Don Henley, of all people, stay.

1421
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 4: Out of this. This is personal band business, and it's private.

1422
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 2: It's really private.

1423
01:12:29,119 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, And they freaking got it on fisticuffs and that's

1424
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:33,880
the end.

1425
01:12:34,199 --> 01:12:34,479
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1426
01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 5: And so that's the last that Randy Meiser's ever in

1427
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:41,239
the band. So in I think it was like twenty sixteen. Okay,

1428
01:12:41,359 --> 01:12:47,159
twenty sixteen, Randy's kids were trying to become like executors

1429
01:12:47,319 --> 01:12:49,800
of his estate, and they were trying to get around

1430
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:52,399
his wife. They didn't like his wife. Felt like her

1431
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,840
name is Lana. She was manipulating him because after he's passed. No, no, no,

1432
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,279
this is right before he passed, okay, and he they said,

1433
01:13:01,279 --> 01:13:05,199
he's a severe alcoholic and she's manipulating him and she's

1434
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,840
gonna take him for all his worth, and we want

1435
01:13:08,079 --> 01:13:10,600
to take control of his estate.

1436
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So they didn't win that.

1437
01:13:14,399 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 5: A year later, she's moving a gun in their house,

1438
01:13:18,079 --> 01:13:21,800
like transporting it like from here to there, and bumps

1439
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:24,600
into something and it goes off and it kills her.

1440
01:13:26,399 --> 01:13:30,960
Whoa Randy Meisner's wife accidentally shoots herself in the head,

1441
01:13:31,279 --> 01:13:33,720
and the police come and they've got to like determine

1442
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:34,800
did he kill her?

1443
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:37,239
Speaker 4: Oh, so he's he's still alive too.

1444
01:13:37,399 --> 01:13:38,840
Speaker 2: This is before he passed.

1445
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: Wow.

1446
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,399
Speaker 5: And they actually found like they looked at like security

1447
01:13:42,399 --> 01:13:45,720
footage and they have him like on camera in another

1448
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:48,159
part of the house, and we're able to verify that

1449
01:13:48,199 --> 01:13:51,199
this was not his fault. But they still they had

1450
01:13:51,199 --> 01:13:53,119
to they like put him in the psych Unit and

1451
01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:56,600
like he was on suicide Watch, and so it wasn't

1452
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,960
all flowers and roses for Randy Beiser after this.

1453
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: It's tragic.

1454
01:14:01,079 --> 01:14:04,000
Speaker 5: So just a little side note. They pulled him out

1455
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,479
of the band Poco. Yeah, when he was in the

1456
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:08,439
band Poco, they asked him and joined the Eagles. He

1457
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:09,319
joins the Eagles.

1458
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:13,159
Speaker 4: His replacement in Poco was Timothy B. Schmidt Corre.

1459
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 5: When he leaves the Eagles in nineteen seventy six whatever

1460
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,640
it is, seventy seven, he is replaced by Timothy B.

1461
01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:22,359
Speaker 2: Smidt Well obviously, like it's the perfect choice and the

1462
01:14:22,399 --> 01:14:24,079
way that this goes, and I realized we're getting a

1463
01:14:24,079 --> 01:14:27,000
little past the album we're covering. But Glenn Frye is

1464
01:14:27,119 --> 01:14:30,159
like listen, he replaced him in Poco. He can sing

1465
01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:32,079
the songs that he sang in Poco. He can play

1466
01:14:32,079 --> 01:14:34,319
the bass lines that he played in Poco. He's the

1467
01:14:34,319 --> 01:14:38,000
perfect replacement. And Irving as Off is like listen, I

1468
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:40,800
saw him like a week ago and he was drunk

1469
01:14:40,800 --> 01:14:44,199
out of his mind and gacking, you know, and and

1470
01:14:44,399 --> 01:14:46,439
I just don't know, you really think he's the right fit.

1471
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:49,800
And Glenn fry said listen, Irving. If you've been playing

1472
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:53,279
music for eleven years and you're still making two hundred

1473
01:14:53,279 --> 01:14:56,720
and fifty dollars a week, wouldn't you be drunk out

1474
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:58,000
of your gourd and gacking too.

1475
01:14:58,119 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 4: It's fair.

1476
01:14:59,039 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, So Timothy Schmidt joins the Eagles just in time

1477
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:03,640
for them to break up.

1478
01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was with them for just under three years,

1479
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:08,159
I think, yeah.

1480
01:15:07,319 --> 01:15:10,680
Speaker 5: But he has since rejoined and he plays with them.

1481
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:12,880
So this day they're playing the Sphere and we looked

1482
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:17,439
at tickets. Yeah, a thousand bucks. I didn't even look.

1483
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:21,079
I just figured they were about a thousand, all right.

1484
01:15:21,319 --> 01:15:24,439
Last song on the album, This song is the epic

1485
01:15:25,279 --> 01:15:28,399
Don Henley masterpiece, the Last Respect.

1486
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:37,239
Speaker 7: She came from broods One in Road, where the old

1487
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:41,359
world shadows hanging heavy.

1488
01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:45,399
Speaker 1: She packed her.

1489
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:53,600
Speaker 10: Hopes and dreams like a refugee, just as her father

1490
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:56,920
came across the sea.

1491
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,159
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna shout out our longtime listener and my

1492
01:16:05,159 --> 01:16:08,079
good friend Areln Bullard on this one. Every time I hear,

1493
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:12,159
every time I hear this song and it hits the line.

1494
01:16:12,399 --> 01:16:15,479
It put up a bunch of ugly boxes, and Jesus

1495
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,399
people bought them. I can remember him saying that line

1496
01:16:18,439 --> 01:16:22,960
to me, and that's funny stuff right there. This is

1497
01:16:23,119 --> 01:16:26,199
such a well crafted song and Don Heiley was never

1498
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:30,279
satisfied with it. It's a bit abstract but still creates

1499
01:16:30,319 --> 01:16:32,560
such concrete images that you don't know what to do

1500
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,760
with it. But this goes back to the thing I

1501
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,439
said when we started talking about this whole album.

1502
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 4: This is really that thin.

1503
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 2: Line that we are jumping over between the American dream

1504
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:47,560
and the American nightmare, where we take something beautiful and

1505
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,720
we turn it into something ugly or we just destroy it.

1506
01:16:50,640 --> 01:17:04,560
Speaker 1: Out right, good place. They watched the easy song second.

1507
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:25,399
Speaker 5: So Dunn Hiley became very involved in environmental groups and

1508
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,159
started the Walden Woods Project. He's on the Throw Institute.

1509
01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:32,079
That's what he cares about the environment. This was his

1510
01:17:32,439 --> 01:17:34,960
epic we need to take care of what we have

1511
01:17:35,039 --> 01:17:37,680
been given. And if you'll notice, in the song, talks

1512
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,079
about how came across the sea, Providence, Malibu and then

1513
01:17:42,119 --> 01:17:43,520
he mentions Lahina.

1514
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:44,520
Speaker 2: Which is in Hawaii.

1515
01:17:45,159 --> 01:17:47,439
Speaker 4: So you can just see throughout the.

1516
01:17:47,399 --> 01:17:51,239
Speaker 2: Song You're moving west yep. Perfect song to end the album.

1517
01:17:51,279 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 4: Two yeah, so beautiful. What else can we say? This

1518
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,560
is a perfect album?

1519
01:17:56,600 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: Indeed, Okay, So there's one more album that comes out

1520
01:18:00,079 --> 01:18:00,760
after this one.

1521
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 4: It's called The Long Run.

1522
01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:05,560
Speaker 2: The band was in such a state after they recorded

1523
01:18:05,560 --> 01:18:08,560
this album that they called it the Long One. Everything

1524
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,279
comes to a stop in July nineteen eighty.

1525
01:18:11,079 --> 01:18:11,399
Speaker 4: That's right.

1526
01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:14,359
Speaker 2: And then I can remember as a kid just thinking,

1527
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,399
I'll never get to see the bands that I love

1528
01:18:17,479 --> 01:18:19,960
the most in concert because I love led Zeppelin the most,

1529
01:18:20,399 --> 01:18:22,800
I loved When You're Skinned the most, and I loved

1530
01:18:23,039 --> 01:18:24,960
the Eagles the most, and I'll never get to see

1531
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,399
him in a concert until until the nineties.

1532
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:27,960
Speaker 4: That's right.

1533
01:18:28,039 --> 01:18:30,560
Speaker 2: So join us next season, and we're going to talk

1534
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,720
about how Freeze is over. We'll talk about the new

1535
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:36,079
versions of songs, and we'll talk about the new songs,

1536
01:18:36,439 --> 01:18:38,600
many of which are great songs.

1537
01:18:39,079 --> 01:18:41,359
Speaker 5: After we've gone through all these songs, how in the

1538
01:18:41,399 --> 01:18:44,560
world is there another album that can somehow stack up

1539
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:45,039
against this.

1540
01:18:45,359 --> 01:18:47,399
Speaker 2: It beat it in nineteen seventy seven. We just got

1541
01:18:47,399 --> 01:18:48,680
to see if it's going to beat it again.

1542
01:18:49,039 --> 01:18:51,800
Speaker 5: Rumors has been called the greatest rock and roll album

1543
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:52,439
of all time.

1544
01:18:53,239 --> 01:18:56,439
Speaker 4: We will figure that out. Yes, So yeah, guys, join us.

1545
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,079
Speaker 2: Then don't forget to hit that subscribe button, hit that

1546
01:18:59,119 --> 01:19:02,640
follow button and join us on Patreon. I love you guys,

1547
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:09,359
and we will see you next week. This is freaking sorry.

1548
01:19:10,720 --> 01:19:15,840
What was said said fricking I was trying to not

1549
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,159
say yeah right like battle start collected freaking

1550
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 4: Okay,