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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's Not Metal. We are

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your weekly rock, hardcore, heavy metal, heavy music podcast, and

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we are here today for another episode of Hyperblast. This

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will actually our final Hyperblasts of the year, if you

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can believe it, because the remainder of November, I think

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going into December, we've got some bigger stuff planned the

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year really begins to wind down. So this is our

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final relatively short form news bulletin we have of the year.

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I say relatively because we've got a whole load of

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singles that dropped in the past couple of days to

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kind of like speed run our way through. But that

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what we are here to do today. My name is

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Parry and Haish opposite me to do all of just that,

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we have Sam Dignon and Mark Sanderson. You two had

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a nice experience in the last week of you know,

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on separate nights and separate places, but you both went

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to go see Jim Eat World on their UK tour

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with with pup in support as well, and you know,

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with a bill like that, and I still the last

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time I saw Jim Eat World was still prior to

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us doing that special and I was fully like, I'm

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gonna make it to the next tour and then the

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date here like sold out in an instant and with

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a support like that, it would have been abolutely the

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time to do it. So I'm genuinely jealous, but rather quickly,

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and let's start with PUP first, I guess because this

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is I mean, I'm sure they would have done something

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like this before in terms of some larger venues and stuff.

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But I guess you know, if you go see PUP headline,

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it's going to be not in a place like you know,

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for example, in London Elexandra Palace, So how did they

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manage in terms of like big room?

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Speaker 2: I mean in London.

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Speaker 3: What I'll say is I I've been seeing PUP for

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a decade and it was just like, oh bless them,

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I'm seeing them on Alexandra Palace on a big stage

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and they were their tiny little postage stamp back drop

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on on the stage.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this rocks.

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Speaker 3: They had a really nice, kind of solid, dedicated group

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of PUP fans down the front going off for the

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entire set in London, which.

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Speaker 2: And like they were.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because Jimmy World, a lot of their fans

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are quite nice. Papa are a bit spiky for some

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Jimmy World fans at Yaz, which was which was quite funny,

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specially they do songs like Waiting and like the newest

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of that is like really weird and unhinged when those hits,

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but I mean Reservoir on a stage at Alexandria Palace,

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I was like, this is where like a song like

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this good should be cranked out.

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Speaker 2: And they were just really like Papa's so endearing.

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Speaker 3: They are just genuinely just like four very lovely Canadian

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dudes who can't go on stage and they rip it

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and they rock and I was just like, yeah, gone, Pup.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm not necessarily a pop fan, not that I

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dislike them. I've just never connected to them in the

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same way everyone now seems to have, which is annoying

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because I like a lot of Pup adjacent things. So

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I've never seen them live, but it was so much fun.

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I don't really know the song. I know a couple

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of the songs obviously, but it was just really infectious

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and even a corode full of like people folding their

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arms couldn't dissuade me from having a boogoo with my brother.

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Speaker 1: Well that is very good to hear and then Jimmy

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will which I suppose. I mean in a way, there's

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not a lot to kind of write home about in

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terms of like they're not supporting a particular album or anything.

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It's just kind of Jimmy wild toll. But am I

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right in saying that these are like basically the biggest

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venues that Jimmy at World have done, at least in

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the UK. London was their biggest however, Yeah, I mean

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so considering there's not much again, there's no real I

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don't know, swell or anything behind them right now, that's

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kind of impressive to just decide to do, like, you know,

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thirty years into their career or whatever. So I guess

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how did that go down?

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Speaker 3: London sold out, sold out well in advance. This was

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there was just kind of some sort of everyone kind

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of like, let's go see Jimmy World. I want to,

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you know, like they never man who sidly said let's

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be a big let's let's find anyone how big we are.

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But they were fantastic, best I've ever seen them, absolutely

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just gorgeous, stunning, wonderful set list, like very focused on

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necessarily do all the obvious things of that, like opening

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with pain was like fucking yeah, le let's go.

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Speaker 2: What an opener.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, they did work really on, but

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then they did like night drives and like stuff like that,

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like like deeper like cuts off of Futures, good amount

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of stuff off Clarity Coward's version of Goodbye Sky Harbor.

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I will say, not doing the full sixteen minutes come

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on now, but yeah, they just they came on.

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Speaker 2: They just ninety minutes, ripped through.

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Speaker 3: Twenty plus songs, sounded incredible, had again just the most

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infectious energy.

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Speaker 2: Crowd loved it.

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Speaker 3: Crowd really went off for like the big hits, and

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they were like still into the kind of lesser obvious

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sort of songs. It was just such a great time.

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I like just it flew by. I was just sort

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of singing.

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Speaker 2: My heart out the entire time.

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Speaker 3: Sweetness five songs in, I was like, fucking, let's go.

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Ending the main set on the opening run of Bleed American.

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You cannot end U set a better way if you're

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going to crank out the title track. Praise across the

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middle to close out your main set just perfect. You

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can't you can't thought that, but I had just a

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wonderful time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, best band ever. I love them so much. They

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also did the coverage version of five five five by

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making it acoustic.

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Speaker 2: And that was that was really nice though, I did

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I did like that, like it was nice.

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Speaker 4: I really like that song.

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Speaker 3: And then going straight to Hear You Me was just

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like my Cinderella Story moment.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was torn my football helmet done on.

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Speaker 3: The girls thinking about you when we like say our

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little like time we went to that, we went for

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lunch together and he came on as we walked into

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the cafe.

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is it.

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Speaker 4: This is the perfect moment, and that was magical. I

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think about that all the time. But yeah, I mean

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to move rather point twenty three and Big Casino. These

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are like my favorite songs ever.

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Speaker 1: I have the best night Like Yeah was the encore

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that looked really yeah. That was like the slightly more.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah night drive and the world Yeah so long

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as the Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That was like too deeper track two deeper cuts off

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of futures.

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Speaker 2: I was like, fucking this is so cool, Like.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, two songs I never expected to see live. No

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one else in the crowd cared like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like for the on call when they've

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already done the middle and all that is a bit

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like this is for the the really really like the

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hardcore fans who really know I like.

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Speaker 3: That, though I kind of wish more bands would treat

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encores like that, as do like, end your main set

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on the big hitters and then do something cool and

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interesting for the encore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think me and most people there were thinking, okay,

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OnCore is probably gonna be like my best theory and

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then maybe always be. But no, it was two like rarities.

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Speaker 1: I was buzzing, Yeah, sounds lovely, and like I said,

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I really next time they do, I really do need

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to sort of that out. Okay, as said, we have

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one of I guess because we're like starting to get

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all the announcements for albums earlier next year. It's one

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of those weeks where a lot of the big bands

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are all at once dropping their their singles and album announcements.

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So we are going to do our best who kind

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of like speed gauntlet our way through. I think a

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lot of these songs there's not necessarily like a actual

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ton to say about them musically, but we can kind

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of give you the like, right, what can we expect

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from an album based on this kind of move through

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the approach? First off, I guess I say why some

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of these songs maybe don't have the most amount the

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musical is because a lot of these are those like

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we've already released two singles from our album, but here's

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the actual announcement to go with it. Lead single. Kind

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of deal very much in that. Guys. We have spirit

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Box who have released the first single that is tied

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to the announcement of an album. I should say the

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album is called Tsunami Sea. I guess a bit of

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like a water theme developing with their titles so far.

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It's going to be out on March the seventh of

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twenty twenty five. It will be four years between a term,

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like maybe three and a half if you've been really

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strict about it, but twenty twenty one to twenty five.

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the middle, so they've always been around, but quite a

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gap for a band as like you know, Propelled to

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the Moon on their debut as a spirit Box were

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because we already had Soft Spine fairly recently, which is

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going to be on this album. But this follow up

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single that we have, which is called Perfect Soul, I'm

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at a stage of a spirit box right Like every

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single I hear I go like, yeah, that's very good,

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like not particularly revolutionary, and it's you know, not something

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that I've immediately gone like, oh wow, that's like them

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really I don't know, come with the bit between their teeth,

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but I've just repeatedly gone, yeah, that's very very good. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So it's like spirit Box.

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more on the melodic side, like Corney Hurclean. Vocal is

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really nice on it. It's very like pretty vocally. The

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riff is still kind of punching, hard hitting, it doesn't

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feel too heavily processed. I'm still kind of wishing they'd

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do a bit more of that kind of rotoscope like

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dance sort of thing. I really want more of that

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from my spirit Box and they they've kind of left

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that as a one off, and I'm like, you were.

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Speaker 2: So good at that, do more of it. But no,

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this is I think this is.

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Speaker 3: This is a good like first like proper lead single,

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I say, oh, no, you are getting that nice contrast

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Speaker 2: Yeah, singles that are like, yeah, that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: I think Soft Spine and Circle with Me, sorry soft

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Spine in this one. They almost feel a bit like

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Holy Roller and Circle with Me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: From the previous one it was like, here's the really

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heavy one, here's the really nice maddit one. I think

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these songs again that they're not quite hitting the like,

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oh shit, there's something really big here Ripple that you

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felt with like Holy Roller or Circle with Me. But

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kind of break through and introduce yourself once, you know.

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Speaker 4: But even then, like the first time I heard Jade

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did I that blew my screw up? I love that song.

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That's like one of my favorite Spurrobox songs. Now, I

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do think this is. I mean I like it obviously

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because I think I like every single Spurrobox song.

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Speaker 4: Like top tier from me, it's just another Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think these singles are again, very very good.

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to follow up something that was, as you know, everywhere

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and unavoidable. As Eternal Blue was speaking of unavoidable. We

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week before the spirit Box album comes out. Album number

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eleven from Architects, they have wrapped them up, haven't they,

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And they at least a single to go along with

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this announcement, which is called Whiplash. Once again, we can

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look down at this track list and we can see

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that Seeing Red and Curse are both in there. So

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we have, I guess, you know, a pretty good idea

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from like a trio of singles of kind of how

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this album might be shaping up again in that kind

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of vein with this being the third single, now, not

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a lot of kind of like huge curve balls to

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be found, I suppose in this and so much is

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said about Architects are so much conversation around a band

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who have in the last couple of years largely released

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the same couple of song templates, you know, kind of

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repeatedly that we had a huge conversation on our discord

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about it. Even though again I hear this song and

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I go like, yeah, that's kind of what I would

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expect an Architects song in twenty twenty four to do.

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I think this song it has some nice kind of

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bouncy rifts in it, like I was maybe expecting more

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of that, Like you know, they really tried like the

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Ramstein thing last time around, and this has a bit

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more of that gent back into it, which was I

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guess the biggest thing to a surprise involved. And then

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the switch into the chorus was like, ah, there's the

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like machine Bread Architects that we now kind of know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the chorus is the moment where I switch off

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on this one, and it's it's the fish chorus. As

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I'm kind of just sort of yeah, Jordan Fish has

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one chorus and he just he trots it out on

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the bands he works.

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Speaker 2: Now it's that.

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Speaker 3: It's I was like, okay, so the only real I

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was like, yeah, there's some bounce there the first verse,

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Sam is like really at it, and then of course

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and then that second verse it's all the kind of

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like glitchy electronics and I was just like, ah, we

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are in twenty twenty four metal core territory and we

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are happy and like we are just sticking to that.

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for that sound for me. And I won't go up

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with the poppy at the kind of like thing that

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really did it for me.

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Speaker 1: But well there's Fish again, isn't it. So yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 3: It's the Fish thing. But like and then it was

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like the build up to the breakdown. It was kind

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of the same kind of like quiet build into the

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into then the big like Mosscow breaking.

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Speaker 2: I was like, Architects, you're you.

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Speaker 3: Are better this And again it's a big stompy of

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arena rock song cool or arena metal song cool that

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like and it does like I'm sure it will sound huge,

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but I'm like, there's there's so much more you could

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do with this formula to be bigger and better with it.

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And it feels if this feels like architect's kind of

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settling into a groove now that they probably I mean,

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they'd say it feels like they've been there for a

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couple of years.

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Speaker 2: But this is just like the kind of like nailing

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it on.

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Speaker 4: I have no idea what I think of this, because

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like it comes in, the riff is big and like

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thick as far as daft thick, and I do enjoy it.

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And I enjoyed the breakdown where Sam throws out mother fucker.

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Speaker 1: Like does he say bitch before he goes into the breakdown?

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Speaker 2: I think he does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was clutching my pearls. But I was like, Samuel,

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there's a weird light no deploying swear words in this,

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like a teenager who's just discovered limp biscuit for the

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first time, you know, Like if the chorus is you

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know what that is? The world done fucking around? It's

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a bit like, I don't know, there's a touch of

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fever three through three lyrics, Like it's a little bit

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like mass appeal to to like a gen z audience

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of like feels a little like basic, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, dropping bitch before a breakdown, like our king Frankie

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pow Mary many a time. I think the chorus.

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Speaker 1: Architects being compared to him with like not without good reason.

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Speaker 2: Says it all, doesn't it really?

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Speaker 4: I mean it's the biggest, thickest bounty. It is basically

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a fucking a mirror song with a bring me the

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Horizon chorus.

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Speaker 1: Stapled on it. Yeah, I basically agree, and I thought

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that again the riff don't dislike the sound of the

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riff is pretty decent. I just think this is, you know,

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if this is where they're like they're really angry, material

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is at, you know, in twenty twenty four. It's it's

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a long way from the real I don't know. I

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felt very little during it, like it's it's a long

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way from the real like scathing properly galvanizing thing that

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they were once able to do when they were angry.

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And it's still sound so I don't know, again, octane

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in that kind of chorus, I mean lyrically with the

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like you know, tribalism, unable to kind of speak with

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anyone outside of your own circle, which again Archtets have

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kind of done before and like Discourse is dead, haven't they?

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But this, weirdly it struck me. It's like a stupid

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version of Endarkenment by an Alna Thrack, which, while we're

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at it had a big chorus, didn't it. So But yeah,

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like it's I don't I'm not writing off the album

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because again, all these like songs that have been released, I

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thought Curse was really good, like that has a chorus

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that I think is in line with the best of

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these like more radio ready architect songs that they've been

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plugging in the twenty twenties. Like in theory, I think

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we say this a lot. We're not actually against them

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doing that move if they don't just kind of like

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recycle themselves a lot. But I guess it's on them

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to disprove the idea that the album will kind of

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just be a bunch of these because I think the idea,

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Dear that they have turned into a one trick pony

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is kind of it's had weight added to it in

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the last couple of years, and it balls in their

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court now to really kind of do that. That is

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the pairing of very you know, kind of contemporary metalcore

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work where it's all that. We also have had the

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return though of Killswitch Engage, who again, this feels like

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a long time coming in terms of, like, you know,

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Killswitch Engage another band we've done like a special on

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and that was one of the I don't know the

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earlier ones we did after like launching the Patreon and

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that was years ago. We still this is the first

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thing we've heard from Killswitch in that time. It's been

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Atonement was twenty nineteen, so this is the first Killswitch Engage, So.

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Speaker 2: Six years basically, like yeah, it album comes.

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Speaker 1: Like half a decade we haven't heard from Killswitch Engage.

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It really has been like a bit of a slumbering

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period from them. But they've also got a record again.

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Moving back the week's next year, February the twenty first,

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a record called This Consequence, and the single from this

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is out called Forever Aligned, And I guess, you know,

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obviously we're moving away from the very twenty twenty four

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idea of metalcore again here back to something more kind

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of classic. I never know where my expectations are for

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Killswitch Engage these days, because there are on a few

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albums in a row that haven't lit the world on

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fire again. When we did our special, I think a

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lot of us agreed that a Tonguement was a bit

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better than Incarnate was. And there's some songs on I

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mean both those records, but particularly on Atonement, there's a

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few songs that I think are really really great. But

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I remember that when they released the lead single from

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that album, I was like, hmm, you know, not really

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again doing it majorly for me, So I don't really

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know how I expected the kills which engage someone to

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kind of sound even and this starts with like a

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death cord chug, and I was like.

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Speaker 3: What, I couldn't believe how hard the first like minute

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of this is.

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Speaker 2: For the chorus, I was like.

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Speaker 3: Oh, oh, kill Switch, Oh you there's really just like

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guitars and like almost like a definitely growl on Jesse,

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like he's vote like really like ripping it. I was like, ah,

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after just you know, with my twenty four middle call Black,

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I was like, oh, this is this is doing something

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to me, Like there are a few things I want more.

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Speaker 2: In this world than kills which engaged to be at it.

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Speaker 3: I love this band and I want them to be

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and again, like for an album, I don't know if

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I'm going to expect this from the album.

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Speaker 2: I think as a leader, this is fucking great.

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Speaker 3: It's so hard on the verses, and when that chorus hits,

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I'm like, and there we go, big league guitar Jesse

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belting out a big kind of emotional chorus.

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Speaker 2: It does everything I want kills Which Engaged to do.

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I think this is so good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kill Switch are one of my bands.

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Like I like everything they've done pretty much press and

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play on this. It's just it's just so comfy. I

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don't know if the chorus is the most memorable thing

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in the world, but I can listen to kill Stitch

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Engage all day and have done many times in my life.

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I think. I do think the production on the chorus

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sounds a bit more flat compared to the rest of it.

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It's like the track takes a noticeable dip.

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Speaker 1: Because I listen to the architects so literally immediately beforehand.

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But the switch did not feel so drastic to me.

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I like the little, the little of the guitars you

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get in the chorus that kind of fills the sound

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out for me. I'm not saying this in terms of like,

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you know, quality, in terms of taking some kind of

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out of context like it's right off of Alive or

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just breathing or whatever. But like it musically, maybe it's

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that little touch of again brutality. Yeah, it has some

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of those vibes, and in the verse, Jesse does that

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like a new vatality and it's that that kind of

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like half shouting. Yeah. Yeah, it had a bit of

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that fucking like you know, fixation of the darkness or

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whatever to me. So again it is you know again

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a twenty five years in whatever Killswitch engaged kind of

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doing it. That has an effect. But like, yeah, I

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feel just on a purely lead single basis, I'm not

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saying it's one of their greatest songs, but it's the

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most positive we've been about a kill Switch lead single

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in like a hot minute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, I think it's like even like Strength

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of the Man, which was a good single, I think

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I might prefurtheres to Strength of the Mine because it

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just it caught me off guard in how like brutish

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that opening part is and then like again just nice

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big chorus. It was like yeah, cool and just stood

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out in a way I was like, kills You, you're

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showing up some of the younger bands now by just

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sounding more at it than a lot of these kind

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of like very processed, tired sounding bands.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just weird to press play on a

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kill Switch and Gage song and be surprised by the

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first sounds I heard, you know, because like kills from

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are a lot of things, they're not usually surprising. So

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that was like cool and fun and I am, you know,

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more intrigued by this Kilt child, I suppose especially it

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has been a several years. We then move on to

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machine Head and Sam, I bet you've had enough of

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machine Heads, given the what we were about on the Patreon.

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Speaker 3: This week, and mouth shut when it comes to machine

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because I'm just gonna upset someone like with my heart

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takes that maybe we're a little too hot even my standards,

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and I've had to kind of wheel back a tiny.

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Speaker 1: But Yeah, they've released a song that is from an

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album that they have not actually announced, but they've said

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it will be coming next year. I think they might

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have said April next year, we might be looking at

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a machine Head alum, which is it's been about was

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it two and a half years now since the previous

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one and Kingdom and Crown, so lining up just just right.

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I suppose they've songs a song here called These Scars

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Won't Define Us, which this song. It's weird to me

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the idea that this song will be on and on

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the album, because this song reeks of me to like

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when Mastodon and the Lamb of God did their like collab

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single as a One of God and created the exactly

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this feels to me like it should be one of those.

476
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,319
And the idea that this is actually going to be

477
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,640
on an album, I mean, maybe it won't be. I

478
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,720
don't know, but I think they've said it is, so

479
00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:35,599
the idea has been abb is very strange to me

480
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:40,680
because this is machine Heads all star touring line up

481
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:42,920
from the US tour all come together on the song,

482
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,000
which means that Inflamed, Lacuna, Coil, and Unearth are also

483
00:21:47,279 --> 00:21:51,720
all part of this song. And I guess again, just

484
00:21:51,759 --> 00:21:54,759
from a first couple listens, I was just I almost

485
00:21:54,759 --> 00:21:56,359
couldn't judge it as a song by itself because I

486
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,680
was a bit just sort of taken aback by like

487
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,519
it's a bit disorientating having like THEO was quite different

488
00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:04,559
elements like fucking Christina Scabia from Lacuna Coil turny up

489
00:22:04,599 --> 00:22:05,759
and then You've got met your boy from an Earth

490
00:22:05,799 --> 00:22:06,720
yelling at you. Was like, oh.

491
00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, this feels like a kind of weird grab bag

492
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,200
of different things, but quite a big chorus. Like I

493
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,759
think the chorus is like it's very like kind of cheesy,

494
00:22:16,839 --> 00:22:19,559
kind of rallying machine head, but it's it's fast, it's frashy.

495
00:22:19,599 --> 00:22:20,559
Speaker 2: The chorus is pretty big.

496
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,039
Speaker 3: Again the amount diferent vocals that come at you, and

497
00:22:23,079 --> 00:22:25,519
some of them do just sound like slightly more ridiculous

498
00:22:25,519 --> 00:22:27,279
when we put up against some of the others.

499
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: And it's just all over the place. But yeah, you know,

500
00:22:28,839 --> 00:22:29,480
I didn't mind this.

501
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 4: I think it's a bunch of fun. Like in terms

502
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,519
of these ahead of a tour cool lab tracks, this

503
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,319
is probably one of the better ones I've heard. I

504
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,519
just think it's just a laugh. And especially when you

505
00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:48,920
have this many bands involved with this many different elements,

506
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,599
like when the Book from the Earth turns up, it's like,

507
00:22:51,759 --> 00:22:55,119
fucking hell, what is he doing? Nicely Christinascavier, it just

508
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,640
doesn't it just shouldn't happen.

509
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I've not got my head around it.

510
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,440
Yet I think the thrashy riff is like pretty decent.

511
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,000
I think otherwise as a song, it's not my favorite.

512
00:23:05,079 --> 00:23:08,559
The chorus to me feels very like we wrote to

513
00:23:08,799 --> 00:23:10,880
this to play it like rock on the Range or whatever.

514
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:12,559
Kind of maybe maybe that's just a guest effect of

515
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:14,720
getting you know, highly mallred at people like you know,

516
00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:17,839
Christina or whatever kind of involved with it. But it

517
00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,559
reminded me a little bit of like a faster, thrashier

518
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,400
version of like, what's that is it? Is there anybody

519
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,799
out there? The Machine Head song, it's like you know,

520
00:23:26,599 --> 00:23:29,160
radio rock one that they've did a couple of years ago. Yeah, yeah,

521
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:30,880
I mean it's it's inexplicable that their most players some

522
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,519
one Spotify. But like again, the chorus gave me like

523
00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:35,960
a little bit like oh but while the rest of

524
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,880
it was again quite disorientating, you throw you around all

525
00:23:38,839 --> 00:23:40,279
over places. I mean, maybe it or really grow on

526
00:23:40,279 --> 00:23:41,480
me by the time we get to the album, but

527
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,160
I was a bit like hmm, okay, there's a lot

528
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,200
going on there. And then finally, Cohen and Cambria have

529
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:51,039
announced that their new album, Vaxis Part Three, The Father

530
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,480
of Make Believe, is going to be out on March

531
00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:57,279
the fourteenth of next year. The Vaxis album so far

532
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,880
have been rather good. Mark you, we are a part

533
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,319
A big fan of Part two a couple years ago.

534
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,720
Weren't you so very exciting surely for you to be

535
00:24:05,759 --> 00:24:08,279
getting Part three with this with the lead single in

536
00:24:08,319 --> 00:24:11,200
the bag here, which is called what is it called?

537
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,200
It's called Searching for Tomorrow.

538
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe they're going forward with there's five

539
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:18,079
parts of Vaxes.

540
00:24:18,839 --> 00:24:21,319
Speaker 3: I'm here for it, bring it, bring this nonsense, five

541
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,160
parts sci fi bollocks.

542
00:24:24,039 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: As long as we hear more about that robot man

543
00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:31,079
from the cover of Part two. I yeah, I'm always

544
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,240
excited for Coheed stuff. They're one of my bands I do.

545
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:39,200
This isn't one of my favorite songs from this Vaxis cycle,

546
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:45,039
but it is very listenable, I guess. But you know,

547
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,720
I wasn't a big fan of I mean, I liked it,

548
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:49,640
but I wasn't as big a fan of Shoulders when

549
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:53,200
that came ahead of Part two. But within the record,

550
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,359
I loved that, and that always happens with Cohed album.

551
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,000
So I'm expecting to like this now and love it later.

552
00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:01,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this was decent. The main thing that

553
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,519
stuck out me again from one kind of cursory list

554
00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:06,039
before coming on out here is there's a mad bridge

555
00:25:06,079 --> 00:25:08,079
when it's suddenly like you're sucked out of the window

556
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:09,920
into space, Like what's going on there?

557
00:25:11,279 --> 00:25:13,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, it starts with really weird sense as well. They're

558
00:25:13,839 --> 00:25:16,880
really leaning into this like keyboard stuff.

559
00:25:17,599 --> 00:25:18,279
Speaker 2: I really like this.

560
00:25:18,599 --> 00:25:20,799
Speaker 3: I think this is like just a really good kind

561
00:25:20,799 --> 00:25:23,920
of punchy, three minute, cohed like melodic rock song.

562
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:25,799
Speaker 2: I think they've been on just a really good run

563
00:25:25,839 --> 00:25:26,480
since the sort.

564
00:25:26,319 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Of the second half of the twenty tens, Like now

565
00:25:29,039 --> 00:25:32,640
I'm into the Vats trilogy or however many back sounds.

566
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 2: Are going to get in. They've just really been kind

567
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:35,960
of just like at it.

568
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 3: And again I don't think this is the best song

569
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,200
I've heard from the sort of Vaxe project, but I

570
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:42,319
just you know, in and out kind of just like

571
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,680
punchy rate like like pop rock coheed.

572
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm all for it.

573
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep doing the depeche mode y keyboard thing, go

574
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,400
eighties rush. Now that they're in that kind of stage

575
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,519
of their career, why not. Yeah, So I do look

576
00:25:53,519 --> 00:25:55,519
forward to hearing the rest of that record. I think

577
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:58,279
in general, It's a kind of a gauntlet of largely

578
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:02,319
sort of decent, if not incredible singles. That's kind of

579
00:26:02,319 --> 00:26:04,079
what happens when you have a lot of the bands

580
00:26:04,079 --> 00:26:06,039
who are all aiming for like radio airplay with their

581
00:26:06,079 --> 00:26:08,960
songs or releasing songs in one week against the odds.

582
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,519
I think i'd say kill Switch is the kind of

583
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,279
winner of those, which isn't necessarily what I would have expected,

584
00:26:14,319 --> 00:26:17,920
but yeah, good on them. This is a funny, slash

585
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,160
baffling piece of news. So remember that every single member

586
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,200
of asil A Dying, apart from Tim lambisis left the band.

587
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:28,960
Tim lanbisis is finding more band members to leave his bands.

588
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,119
It's still because Austrian death Machine, which I didn't even

589
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,039
realize was still going. I remember that from like the

590
00:26:35,079 --> 00:26:39,079
early twenty tens, but Austrian Death Machine is now also imploding,

591
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:42,920
with the drummer of that band releasing a statement very

592
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,400
similar to what was released by all the members of

593
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,559
asil A Dying, citing kind of personal integrity in the

594
00:26:48,599 --> 00:26:52,200
idea that whatever Tim is doing behind the scenes here,

595
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,400
like I think you can probably tell here that a

596
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,559
lot of people took a gamble on Tim of like

597
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,039
you say, you're doing better, so we'll trust you. And

598
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480
I don't know. A few years in, everyone's going something's

599
00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:06,559
happening behind the scenes here and to make everybody be like, actually, no,

600
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,039
fuck this guy. But I couldn't believe it when I

601
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,480
saw a headline that was like, now Austrian Death Machines

602
00:27:11,519 --> 00:27:12,240
members leaving.

603
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,759
Speaker 3: It was the realizing the auction death Machine are still

604
00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:21,200
functioning was like, I was that that's a surprise, but yeah,

605
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,559
it is the like, oh, my integrity, my morals have

606
00:27:24,599 --> 00:27:25,359
been like questioned.

607
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, you took the job in the

608
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,000
first place.

609
00:27:29,079 --> 00:27:32,039
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to judge, but yeah, it's

610
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,720
just quite funny that it's happening again.

611
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,079
Speaker 4: I mean, I for one, I'm shocked. He's the world's

612
00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:38,079
most innocent man.

613
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:44,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of innocent men, normal men. Another headline

614
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,400
that was like, for Fox Sake WASP this past week

615
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,279
on their tour that you may remember, was going to

616
00:27:50,319 --> 00:27:52,599
be Death Angel and unto others supporting them, and then

617
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,160
Death Angel like dropped off and unto others got kicked off,

618
00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,240
and I bet they're rather pleased that right now. They

619
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,960
played in New York City this past week and at

620
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,279
the very end of their show, they literally made half

621
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:08,680
their audience get up and leave by unveiling Big Trump

622
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:12,000
twenty twenty four backs all over it are very big,

623
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:16,599
you know speech from Blackie about free speech and so on,

624
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,480
and Sam, I guess I want to just say what again.

625
00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:21,960
We discussed this off there or whatever, and I think

626
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,400
you nailed it when you said that. Not only is

627
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:31,880
you know, personally we're not particularly you know, in favor yeah, science,

628
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,920
politics or whatever, but just in general, doing this for

629
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,039
whoever was the president, if you were here doing this

630
00:28:37,079 --> 00:28:39,960
forever the prime minister is just not very cool. It's

631
00:28:40,039 --> 00:28:43,400
not very like you know, rebellious metal all the things

632
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,599
that Wasp is kind of supposed to be literally going

633
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:49,599
not fuck the man, but like, yeah, the man who

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,680
is currently in power. Yeah, it is not very cool.

635
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,119
Speaker 2: This is it.

636
00:28:54,119 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 3: It just the whole thing just feels just like like

637
00:28:56,279 --> 00:28:58,119
I would feel the same way if a band I

638
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,279
like did it, if like the Democrats, like, guys, come on,

639
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,480
you're better than this, don't be like yeah, the people

640
00:29:03,519 --> 00:29:08,240
in power, like it's just cringe. And and again this

641
00:29:08,319 --> 00:29:11,519
is this is a thing with like particularly they no

642
00:29:11,599 --> 00:29:13,519
matter for their in power, they think they're the rebellion.

643
00:29:13,559 --> 00:29:16,440
They think they're you know, fighting like against the power.

644
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,519
It's like, no, you are the author. You are like

645
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,880
the machine. Yeah, just tone deaf and stupid and cringe

646
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:23,079
whichever way you spin it.

647
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:28,319
Speaker 4: Your fucking wasp, what are you doing. They're supposed to

648
00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:31,000
be having boundards with naked ladies on or whatever the funk.

649
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: You exactly bring back the naked ladies less of the

650
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,519
big orange men. And uh yeah, obviously we've been we've

651
00:29:39,519 --> 00:29:42,319
had WASP on our mind recently. We've done WASP on

652
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:44,440
the podcasts and stuff. And my first thing I saw

653
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,079
when someone posted in the TNN group, I was like,

654
00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:50,440
I was like, okay, look, we never said Wasp were smart.

655
00:29:52,599 --> 00:29:55,839
I think we may have said exactly the opposite. So

656
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,039
everything still stands.

657
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: It tracks, And then a lot of cases, that's why

658
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,720
we liked WASP in the first place, because they weren't smart.

659
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame our things go, but is what

660
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:10,799
it is. Right, We've got a couple of huge for

661
00:30:10,839 --> 00:30:13,200
their standards, I mean considering where what they were doing,

662
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,039
you know, just before they broke Upnal for a Friend

663
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:20,599
have announced two massive UK shows in twenty twenty five,

664
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,319
This is of course the Funeral Friend that is currently

665
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:25,480
still being fronted by Lucas Woodland from a holding absence,

666
00:30:25,519 --> 00:30:27,839
who I heard did a sterling job when it came

667
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,240
to the various places where they've done that before. So

668
00:30:30,279 --> 00:30:32,440
it's nicely that continuing on, I suppose, until they find

669
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:35,640
someone more permanent. But they are playing a big show

670
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,960
in the Millennium Square in Leeds, which is where slam

671
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:42,759
Dunk used to happen, and also one at the Cardiff Castle.

672
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:44,480
Now there's been a bit of controversy here because I'm

673
00:30:44,519 --> 00:30:46,319
I right in saying that the Cardiff show is meant

674
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:49,400
to be Funeral and Skindred co headlining, and then Skindred

675
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,599
have dropped off the mourning. The tickets of like God

676
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,000
on Sale or something, so.

677
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, schedule were on the initial lineup poster and then

678
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,599
I think this morning after like pre Saal or something

679
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,359
like that happened, Skindred cerdadenly disappeared off the poster and

680
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:05,680
there was another schedule look Pleasure and to like rub

681
00:31:05,839 --> 00:31:14,559
salt into the wound, Skindren's replacement Punk Rock Factory. I

682
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:16,599
would be putting a hit on punk Rock Factory if

683
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,039
I bought a teat, and that happened.

684
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,519
Speaker 1: I would much rather see Benji Webb's solo barbecue album

685
00:31:21,599 --> 00:31:26,279
during COVID performing novelgy covers than punk rock factories. I say,

686
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,160
just get into that instead. The thing I liked about

687
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,839
this even before Skindred dropped off, is you know, okay, sure,

688
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,920
funeral and Skindred is a good time. I looked at

689
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:37,880
the rest of the lotime went are poor whales If

690
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,039
this is what you've got to offer, the blackout and

691
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,559
kill the lights poor whales?

692
00:31:43,799 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: Hey, the blackout, I mean the blackout come out. There's

693
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,319
looking like champs if you ask me, like they always do.

694
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

695
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 4: I'm sort of glad about the Skindred thing because I

696
00:31:55,079 --> 00:31:58,279
was this close to buying a ticket for Gardens and

697
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,640
though I just have to go to the leads and said, yeah,

698
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:02,160
so that's good.

699
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: I can just go back to what I just sort

700
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,599
of alluded to earlier. I guess this is, you know,

701
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,440
the nostalgia thing, the way things come in waves or whatever.

702
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720
But it's crazy to think a funeral for a friend

703
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,960
on their last couple of albums before they broke up

704
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,079
the first time where they were playing like non existent

705
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,400
venues like complete Yeah, like tiny shows for about at

706
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,839
this and then they could just come out and be like, yeah,

707
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,519
just kind of on our own name, We're just gonna

708
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:28,079
do a castle and the Square in the middle of leads.

709
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,079
Speaker 4: Yeah. Like when I first started seeing them, I was

710
00:32:32,079 --> 00:32:35,319
seeing them in like half empty, four hundred capacity venues.

711
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: It's mad.

712
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 4: I'm so tough for them, Like and I normally like,

713
00:32:43,599 --> 00:32:46,759
I'm so sick of all this nostalgia stuff, but part

714
00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,240
of me does want to go because I want to

715
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,839
see them while they still have Lucas on vocals, Like

716
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,279
he's a powerful vocalist. I want to see those songs

717
00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:54,880
with that guy.

718
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an intrigue thing for sure. Speaking of something

719
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,240
in a similar vein, Frank Carter fronted you know, version

720
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:03,880
of the Sex Pistols. I've also announced a few more shows.

721
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,119
There were, of course announced Ford Download last week, weren't they.

722
00:33:07,559 --> 00:33:10,000
But if like that's the one thing that you've really

723
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,599
really got to see but you're not quite drawn to

724
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,039
the rest of Download, you have a couple of other

725
00:33:13,079 --> 00:33:16,160
opportunity to do so, namely at kind of big old

726
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,880
punk all day of things that are occurring, there's one

727
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,160
happening at the Margate Summer Series with the Stranglers and

728
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,160
the buzz Cocks. There there's also a similar event hanging

729
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,720
It happening at the Glasgow Summer Sessions, which again the Stranglers,

730
00:33:29,759 --> 00:33:32,920
the Undertones, the Buzztop, the Rizilo's, all sorts of things

731
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,160
going on with the kind of the I said, sort

732
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,880
of classic seventies style punk all dayers, which again I'll

733
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,680
just reiterate there are not many times you would be

734
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,279
going to a classic seventies punk all day and see

735
00:33:45,279 --> 00:33:48,680
a band play with as much like Venom as the

736
00:33:48,759 --> 00:33:52,599
current Frank Carnter fronted version of the Sex Fittle, So

737
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,920
worth seeing while you're at it if you want to

738
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,960
jump forward, like one decade I suppose in punk. The

739
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,960
Descendants and the Circle Jerks have all so announced a

740
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,799
big co headline tour for Europe and the UK across

741
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,239
March and April twenty twenty four. Where are the dates

742
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,079
in the UK, The whole load of them actually like

743
00:34:10,119 --> 00:34:10,760
a full on.

744
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,079
Speaker 2: It's like the middle of March in the UK.

745
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean in terms of I remember the

746
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,159
Descendants before if they've come and they've played like one

747
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,039
London show or whatever, But like there's a full you

748
00:34:19,079 --> 00:34:23,519
know Bell it's a proper toy. Yeah, yeah, so negative

749
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,280
a pro supporting as well. That is quite a bill

750
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,920
if you like your eighties us.

751
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen the sense or circle jokes.

752
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: I think this might be the time I have to,

753
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,800
you know, get in on that, because I'd like to

754
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,639
see both and just have a fun punk time.

755
00:34:36,559 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I already got my ticket. I'm going to

756
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,679
be skipping around like a little maniac.

757
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:46,159
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sounds very very interesting indeed, and Clutch all the

758
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:48,719
way over in November and December here in the UK

759
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,119
of twenty twenty five, I were getting some really like

760
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:53,559
early announced tours for next year, aren't we But they

761
00:34:53,559 --> 00:34:56,000
have announced what I guess it's intriguing for them because Clutch,

762
00:34:56,519 --> 00:34:58,480
you don't normally know what the fun they're gonna play,

763
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,920
and Clutch are doing a rare you know exactly what

764
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,760
we're gonna play at least for a majority of the

765
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:07,599
sets tour because they are doing a thirtieth anniversary tour

766
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,880
for their self titled album Again is coming through most

767
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,679
of the usual places in the UK and Europe as well.

768
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,800
And it's kind of interesting because you know, they didn't

769
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,760
do for example, this year, would have been the twentieth

770
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,880
of Blast Iron when they could have done something along

771
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,199
those lines. I guess it's kind of interesting that the

772
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,559
band who are so fame for like turn up and

773
00:35:26,559 --> 00:35:28,519
see what we do on the day are deciding to

774
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:29,880
go like, no, this is a record that we're going

775
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,360
to actually do the full anniversary treatment for.

776
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the self titled It's a vibe record,

777
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,480
isn't it. It's one you're gonna you know, as a

778
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,440
body of work. Like if people were to get you know,

779
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,960
stoned and have a lovely times like the.

780
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:44,519
Speaker 2: Vibes, you could.

781
00:35:45,519 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not like praise about the idea of clutch

782
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:49,400
during an album though, Like I get why this might

783
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,800
be the abum they want to do it for. Yeah,

784
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,400
that's a thing, but just it's just it's odd to

785
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,119
see you considering, as you say, they're the band who

786
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,360
like they make up their set list on the day

787
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,119
and then they rock with it.

788
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you might still have that with the encore,

789
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,599
you know. Yeah, be a surprised interesting to see what

790
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,079
kind of surprises they whip out once they're done with

791
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:07,519
an hour of like you know, stonery kind of vibing

792
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:09,639
around and then startlingly they turn up fucking first then

793
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:14,159
did whatever yeah right questions. As said, this is our

794
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,480
final hyperblass of this year, so this is actually gonna

795
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,280
be our final questions section of this year. If you've

796
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,000
got another question to ask, got right till January come

797
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:26,280
back in a very whole while to submit that. But

798
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,559
thank you to everybody who did submit questions for this

799
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:32,480
last round. In the that's the focused group, which is

800
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,800
where we always go to for these, and we have

801
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,000
a few here. We're going to start with Grant Lloyd,

802
00:36:38,159 --> 00:36:40,760
who asks have you ever got into a band on

803
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,400
arguably their worst album? My example is getting into Architects

804
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,320
on the Here and Now. I still really like that album,

805
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:47,960
and it's only really been in the last few years

806
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,159
I've realized it's probably the opinion held by the minority

807
00:36:50,199 --> 00:36:53,159
of fans. So I this is actually my the first

808
00:36:53,199 --> 00:36:54,920
alm that came into my head in terms of like

809
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,360
I the example popped in my head before I'd even

810
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:58,920
read the rest of this question and seen that this

811
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,639
was the example give in because the first Architects song

812
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,480
I heard was day In Day Out, which was on

813
00:37:06,519 --> 00:37:09,239
a Metal Hammer cover CD. As like the single or whatever,

814
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,880
it was from that album, and like I thought that,

815
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,679
you know, I like that song, I guess, but it

816
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:17,679
certainly it gave me the wrong impression of artists as

817
00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:20,400
a whole, because I thought they were a more poppy

818
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,280
band at that time than I suppose they actually turned

819
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,840
out to be. So that was a strange thing. But again,

820
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,800
of that song, view it as what it is in

821
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,440
terms of like within their catalog or whatever, not wholly representative.

822
00:37:32,559 --> 00:37:35,519
I do think it is a banger, that song, So

823
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:38,800
that was like my go to immediate example A couple

824
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,239
of others I suppose is you know, we were speaking

825
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,760
a little bit on the special about just in almost

826
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:47,719
like a generation of Slipknot fans getting into Slipknot on

827
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,559
either All Hope Is Gone or The Great Chapter, whichever

828
00:37:50,599 --> 00:37:52,760
one you you you fall on, and a lot of

829
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,920
us feeling more fondly towards those records than I don't know,

830
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,039
the overall narrative kind of entails.

831
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's probably a very good, good chat.

832
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:02,079
Speaker 3: I was sing to think one, but you said, I

833
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:04,000
was like, yeah, no, Slimmer on All Hobbies Gone?

834
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 2: Would would like be a very like definite answer always,

835
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,119
Like I guess, there weren't many I could think of.

836
00:38:12,159 --> 00:38:14,599
Speaker 3: Well, I was like their worst because even some of

837
00:38:14,599 --> 00:38:16,400
the bands who were like on their worst album at

838
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,639
that time, I got into like their other stuff and

839
00:38:19,639 --> 00:38:21,440
then went back and listened to what their current album was,

840
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,719
which was like a not very good one.

841
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's a tricky basically here to ask if

842
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,400
there's one that came out didn't satisfy the kind of

843
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,599
you know, the general fan base. But because it was

844
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,960
the one where you arrived, I don't know, maybe if

845
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,000
anyone here got into a FI on Crash Love or

846
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:36,960
anything like that, you know.

847
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 3: That was what I december on the ground it might

848
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,519
actually be like as an album one of the week

849
00:38:43,679 --> 00:38:46,280
AFI albums might be like there is a to be

850
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,599
the worst AFI as an album in full, but I

851
00:38:48,679 --> 00:38:50,079
go into it on them. I went to them on

852
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,320
that because fucking miss Murders on that album, Like.

853
00:38:52,519 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that was That's probably true for a

854
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,360
lot of people that.

855
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,639
Speaker 4: Were Yeah, I didn't even consider a five. I got

856
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:01,159
in on Crash Love, and I didn't consider it because

857
00:39:01,199 --> 00:39:02,519
crash Love is a master It's.

858
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,559
Speaker 1: Not their worst album, that's for sure.

859
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, you just unlocked the memory in my brain.

860
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:12,079
Similarly with Like a Metal HAMMERCD. In twenty eleven, I

861
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:15,719
bought Sounds of a Playground Fading by Inflames based on

862
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,360
deliver Us from hearing it from a Metal HAMMERCYD And

863
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,559
I don't think that's the worst in Flames album, but

864
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:23,159
it's not one of the best one.

865
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say it's one of the best ones

866
00:39:25,079 --> 00:39:27,920
of that particular period. I suppose like it's better than

867
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,760
any of the ones that followed in the twenty tens.

868
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,159
I suppose that's generally, like you know, discovering Inflames. At

869
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:37,079
any point after the release of you know, Generously Come Clarity,

870
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:39,320
you're kind of getting a weaker point. Sounds the Playground

871
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,519
Fading was, Yeah, one of the better points to do

872
00:39:41,559 --> 00:39:43,280
that with the strength of songs like deliver Us and

873
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:43,599
so on.

874
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,119
Speaker 4: Deliver Us is still one of my favorite Inflamed songs

875
00:39:47,519 --> 00:39:49,920
just because I have that like attachment to it.

876
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,639
Speaker 1: It's a proper hit. I can absolutely agree there.

877
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 4: I have three like the These all came out within

878
00:39:56,039 --> 00:39:59,920
a very specific like when I was a young teenager.

879
00:40:00,599 --> 00:40:03,039
I reckon if you ask most people, they'd probably put

880
00:40:03,039 --> 00:40:06,880
this record in the bottom three. But I love Agony

881
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,199
and Irony by Alkaline Trio all right, yeah, because I

882
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:15,079
didn't realize it was like a lesser like I appreciated

883
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:17,639
one because it was in Kerrang's top twenty list, so

884
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,039
I bought it and calling all Skeletons and Over and

885
00:40:21,119 --> 00:40:23,519
Out are still some of my favorite Alkaline Trio songs,

886
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:25,840
and listening back to it now, it does sound like

887
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,320
quite dated, but I you know, I was thirteen. I

888
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,639
really loved it, and similar to like The Crusade by Trivium,

889
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,480
which people love to shit on even though it's fucking.

890
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,079
Speaker 2: Sick, definitely not their worst album like those worse ones.

891
00:40:41,199 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: Hell yeah there is. But yeah, the Crusade was my

892
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,840
first Trivium record because I loved the anthem we are the.

893
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: Fire, and I still do. A metal fan speaks to

894
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,400
the end. Ben Wilma asks, have you ever listened to

895
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,719
an album that genuinely scared you, either due to its

896
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,599
lyrical content or overall sound and make you incredibly anxious?

897
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,039
I can't remember if we've had this question before, and

898
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:03,280
I feel that something that we may have answered before,

899
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,079
But my my usual kind of stock answers for this

900
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,360
are is, I guess in a time of like doing

901
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,559
this show. I will vividly remember the first time I

902
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:14,639
heard Calligular by a lingering nota which I went into

903
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,480
with a kind of not entirely knowing what she sounded like.

904
00:41:17,519 --> 00:41:20,760
I hadn't heard or Bitches Die at the time, and

905
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,480
I was expecting, you know, there was this kind of

906
00:41:23,559 --> 00:41:25,960
wave of like what the press briefly kind of tried

907
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,400
to pin the label death gospel onto of that kind

908
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:31,400
of like you know, post Chelsea Wolf, Emma Ruth rund

909
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,239
or AA Williams or whatever kind of like you know,

910
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,320
ethereal singer songwriter side of kind of heavy music that

911
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,880
was going on. And I was expecting something like that basically,

912
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,000
and then I got what is going on on Currigular?

913
00:41:45,199 --> 00:41:48,199
And yeah, I mean it's in general, it was a

914
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:52,800
question of like, like, not many movies necessarily deeply scare me,

915
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,159
because it's kind of an experience and outside of yourself,

916
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:56,960
and it's not like a you know, your fearing for

917
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,840
your life, but it's more like records that in plants

918
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:07,360
so level of you know, unsettlement or disorientation or anything

919
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,960
like that. And in that the proper go to example

920
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,000
that comes to mind is one that I'm sure many

921
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,039
people who know the record in question will also say

922
00:42:15,079 --> 00:42:19,519
this record The Drift by Scott Walker, which is a

923
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:25,000
full on like audio horror experience, and there are parts

924
00:42:25,039 --> 00:42:26,079
in that. I mean, the first thing that comes to

925
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:27,840
mind is there's a point in that record where Donkey

926
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:32,039
turns up and it's like, you know the famous scene

927
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:34,239
in the Shining with the guy in the bearsuit, and

928
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,800
it's like the scene is moving so quickly that your

929
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:41,599
brain suddenly can't register how alien an image. It is,

930
00:42:41,639 --> 00:42:43,960
Like you can't process why that guy in the bearsuit

931
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:48,159
is suddenly there, and you're kind of the disorientation again,

932
00:42:48,199 --> 00:42:51,039
like trying to keep pace of what's going on kind

933
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,719
of outpaces your ability to recognize the image in question,

934
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,960
I suppose, And there are elements like that within the

935
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,960
album of The Drift by Scott Walker. So that's maybe

936
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,719
my best example.

937
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: I'll definitely echo curlicular because I I thought it I

938
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,239
was getting in for another kind of like just like

939
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,159
the female singer song all the Raid, and then I

940
00:43:13,199 --> 00:43:15,360
was like, oh, I'm listening to a woman just like

941
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,559
put all of her trauma onto me Acid Bath.

942
00:43:18,679 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 2: When the problem like.

943
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,639
Speaker 3: That, that's still genuinely there are moments on that that

944
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,360
I was just like, I don't like what I'm listening

945
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,280
to again, like I don't know to go, But like

946
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,920
unsettled is more I'm not set to me more than

947
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,159
they scare me, is what I would say. And Acid

948
00:43:31,159 --> 00:43:33,719
Bath genuinely made me feel deep sint to my knees,

949
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:34,719
and I was I'd be.

950
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,559
Speaker 2: Like, this doesn't sound that this is made by people

951
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:37,039
who are right.

952
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,679
Speaker 3: And then also again like we did recently, but Hatred

953
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,079
Mankind when I first listened to that, because again I

954
00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:46,719
first did that when I was not prepared to listen

955
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:48,800
to Dragged in Sunlight and I was just told you

956
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,639
had to listen to this. It's the most extreme thing ever.

957
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,199
And again like I said, like I love, but I

958
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,800
was like it was a fucking like intimidating, intense kind

959
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,559
of like generally quite like distressing kind of first listen

960
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,480
Like those are the ones I would say, like they

961
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:04,920
made their mark.

962
00:44:05,559 --> 00:44:05,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

963
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 4: I literally just heard Hatred from Mankind for the first

964
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:14,519
time tonight, and it winded me. This is such like

965
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,880
I feel like I don't really know how to distinguish

966
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:21,559
like scared versus unsettled versus like made me feel sick.

967
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I have.

968
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,880
Speaker 4: I'm such a like sensitive little boy and so much

969
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,119
things have affected me over the years, like I remember

970
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:38,480
hearing Pissgrave and Artificial Brain and Portal and genuinely fooling show. Yeah,

971
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,519
but like this question takes me back to like when

972
00:44:41,559 --> 00:44:46,280
I was a young man and basically just my first

973
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,039
discoveries in extreme metal. Like when I was like ten,

974
00:44:52,039 --> 00:44:56,880
someone someone like someone in my years older brother showed

975
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:02,679
me my Sugah I. I was so like, it scared

976
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,440
the shit out of me. I had no idea what

977
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,239
I was listening to. In similar to when I heard

978
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,800
her Ghost in the Fog by Credible for the first

979
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,639
time when I was like ten or Yeah. And it's

980
00:45:14,639 --> 00:45:17,679
funny because I very quickly grew to really like Cradle

981
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,199
of Filth. And when I heard Cruelty and the Beast

982
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:24,440
for the first time, I went in expecting Midian, you know,

983
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:27,360
but Cruelty in the Beast being that little bit more

984
00:45:27,519 --> 00:45:31,039
nasty ar did sort of shock me and made me

985
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:36,440
feel unsettled. This is like, yeah, stuff like a Ramsey

986
00:45:36,559 --> 00:45:39,840
Pazuzu and oh and Al nath Rak. When I heard

987
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,719
an album Nathrat for the first time, I was spooked

988
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,480
out of my Poopers. I couldn't handle it for years.

989
00:45:46,599 --> 00:45:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the kind of black metal lane, I guess, uh,

990
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:53,800
you know, certain Leviathan records are pretty fucking scared. Like

991
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,760
the last Leviathan record has some like vocal mindment particularly

992
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:01,000
that are nightmarish. London by Voice is a big one

993
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,159
that again did not know how the fuck to process

994
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:05,719
that for the first kind of however long of hearing

995
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,280
it in more metallic realms. Again, this is something I

996
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,159
feel like I've referenced quite a lot in the last

997
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:15,360
few months. But Natasha by Pig Destroyer is an incredible

998
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,480
like audio horror experience. But again this is kind of

999
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:20,320
I'm you know, because I like the things I like.

1000
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,800
I'm more drawn to this stuff than I am kind

1001
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:25,920
of repelled by it. But when I remember hearing the

1002
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,519
Tasha and being like, oh my god, that's the kind

1003
00:46:28,559 --> 00:46:32,000
of sensation particularly I guess I'm describing here when I

1004
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:33,559
think of these things and every one like.

1005
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: That for me is again one of my favorite AUMs ever.

1006
00:46:35,519 --> 00:46:37,400
But the first time I heard Second Son of Art

1007
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:42,559
by Overbreaker, and that that final moment, genuinely again that

1008
00:46:42,559 --> 00:46:46,199
that scared me, that final minute and all however long

1009
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,719
with that song I've Herd just screaming Again, that was

1010
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,559
like genuinely quite scary and distressing the first time I

1011
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:52,599
heard that, and again I knew.

1012
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480
Speaker 2: I knew what to expect. And that's still that fucked

1013
00:46:55,519 --> 00:46:56,239
me up a little bit.

1014
00:46:56,119 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: Of that bit.

1015
00:46:57,360 --> 00:47:00,679
Speaker 4: This isn't even an album, it's not even the song really,

1016
00:47:01,039 --> 00:47:04,519
But when I was a young man, I was terrified

1017
00:47:04,559 --> 00:47:06,719
of the one by Metallica music video.

1018
00:47:07,519 --> 00:47:09,599
Speaker 1: A lot of people from a certain age.

1019
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really got under my skin, and I like,

1020
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,320
I shouldn't stop thinking about it.

1021
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, more music videos have scared me than albums. That's

1022
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,119
actually they're probably like, that's a separate discussion.

1023
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, So we'll move on there. Tinder Tor

1024
00:47:23,199 --> 00:47:26,159
asks what songs from a bad, slash terrible album that

1025
00:47:26,159 --> 00:47:29,000
doesn't make it to band setlers these days would you

1026
00:47:29,039 --> 00:47:30,719
love to hear live or be a fixture on the

1027
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:32,400
set list. For me, it will be the title track

1028
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,000
from the Bullets album Temper Temper. I don't know I'll

1029
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,039
be rushing to say make it a staple, but I

1030
00:47:37,079 --> 00:47:39,920
will say that's probably one of the best songs on

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,760
Temper Temper. It's not the the the the demonstration of

1032
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,719
the very worst of what temper temper is Leach.

1033
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 4: I suppose i'd love them to play Leech to be fair.

1034
00:47:54,599 --> 00:47:59,159
Speaker 1: Listening, Yeah, I mean fucking Weezer playing girl. If you're wondering,

1035
00:47:59,679 --> 00:48:01,039
I want you to. I want you to would be

1036
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,000
I mean'd be nice. Yeah, hell, i'd take an I'm

1037
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:06,760
your daddy, you know a lot to go on.

1038
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,599
Speaker 4: Me can be ruling me from Hurley all day.

1039
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad off.

1040
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, Weezer, you could do. You could do a discussion

1041
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:15,639
purely on Weezer.

1042
00:48:15,679 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 1: You could pick five different Weezer albums with the song.

1043
00:48:19,199 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 3: And again, I don't necessarily think these are bad albums,

1044
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,400
but I know that within the fan base they're not popular.

1045
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,639
But I saw Yellow Card the other day. We'll do

1046
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,400
with it because there's, like, you know, Yellow Card were

1047
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,360
very nice, and there's a bunch of like the twenty

1048
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,079
ten Yellow Card material or that, like paper, So they

1049
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:36,559
played off of that, but lift the sale their album

1050
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:39,119
from a decade ago, like not lights in their fan base.

1051
00:48:39,159 --> 00:48:40,679
Speaker 2: But there are a half of songs that I.

1052
00:48:40,559 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 3: Think are really good that I would like to see

1053
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,800
get put back into the set list rather than you know,

1054
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,800
just trotting out Ocean Avenue again, which again was still amazing.

1055
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,280
But I like there there are yellow card songs from

1056
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,639
less popular albums I would I would love to see

1057
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:53,679
make it back to the set list.

1058
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:56,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean throw a dart sat anger and you'll

1059
00:48:56,159 --> 00:48:58,679
pick a track that when they whip whip out Dirty

1060
00:48:58,679 --> 00:49:00,960
Window whenever, I am like, hell, oh yeah, sure, why not.

1061
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,239
There's quite a few here that are like songs that

1062
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,119
actually are like songs from albums that are generally perceived

1063
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:09,360
as being one of their worst. But there are certain

1064
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,679
songs that have stuck around, like Uh Sorcerers from Opeh

1065
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,440
for example, is like a live staple for them, even

1066
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,280
like when Judas priests do like Prophecy from Nostrodamus that

1067
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,760
is a massive fucking banger in the live setting. The

1068
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,599
ultimate example I think of that as the klans Man

1069
00:49:24,599 --> 00:49:27,400
from Iron Maiden, where like Virtual Eleven, I don't think

1070
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:28,760
I take album. I don't think I say it's my

1071
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,880
least favorite Maiden album in part because of the strength

1072
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,639
of what I'm about to say, but I think it

1073
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:35,760
probably poll is their you know, most disliked album. But

1074
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,280
the clans Man is when that gets put in the set,

1075
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,159
it's a fucking treat because that's a Hall of Fame classics,

1076
00:49:41,159 --> 00:49:42,440
So there are quite a few examples I could think

1077
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:45,719
of like that. I mean you mentioned the Crusade from

1078
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,199
Trivium earlier. There's several that they do do from that,

1079
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,840
Becoming the Dragon, whatever, Conflagration.

1080
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,039
Speaker 2: From back in the set list.

1081
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sad, Yeah, I think for me one

1082
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,039
of the weaker. I always feel weird talking about Trivin

1083
00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,000
with you guys because I know my opinions are slightly different.

1084
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:03,679
But like for me, lower end still albums I like,

1085
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,719
but you know, down the bottom end of Trivia albums,

1086
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,639
you have stuff like Vengeance Falls. They always play Strife

1087
00:50:08,679 --> 00:50:11,519
I'd take like a Bravest Storm or something back in

1088
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:13,320
the set even like a deeper cut like Wake the

1089
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,079
End Is Nigh, a song I always really liked. And

1090
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:17,920
again this kind of links back into the earlier question

1091
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,800
as well. But like I'm not gonna say it's a

1092
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:23,760
you know, an incredible album, but I always have a

1093
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,519
slightly soft spot than most people, I think for the

1094
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:30,599
Corn three album, because that was was a massive track

1095
00:50:30,679 --> 00:50:32,360
exactly because well that was the first Corn album that

1096
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:35,119
was coming out, Like as I you know, got into them,

1097
00:50:35,559 --> 00:50:37,440
but Oil there. There's a couple others as well, like

1098
00:50:38,159 --> 00:50:40,519
let the Go. Yeah, there's a couple bangers on there.

1099
00:50:40,519 --> 00:50:44,480
But Oil there in particular is like a proper, actual,

1100
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,760
like as good as any Corn song they'd released like

1101
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,559
during the two thousands, apart from maybe Here to Stay,

1102
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,920
like a proper hit. And that's one where I'd be like, yeah,

1103
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,840
whenever that comes out, that is a treat.

1104
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:58,559
Speaker 4: This is an answer only I'm gonna give. But there's

1105
00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:02,679
a good Charlotte album twenty ten God cardio Ology, which

1106
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:03,480
is not a good album.

1107
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 3: If you're gonna say like it's her birthday, then I'm

1108
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,440
one hundred percent with you. That song should been every

1109
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,280
good Charlotte set.

1110
00:51:09,039 --> 00:51:11,199
Speaker 4: I'll take leg it's her birthday. My actual big is

1111
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,480
counting the days because I think that's a really lovely

1112
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:16,000
like pop rock song. But like it's her birthday is

1113
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:16,920
a daft to laugh.

1114
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 2: I love that.

1115
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 1: What. I don't think i've heard the song in question.

1116
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,000
Maybe maybe one day I will.

1117
00:51:24,519 --> 00:51:26,119
Speaker 2: And you need to hear like it's her birthday.

1118
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:32,039
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's unbelievable. And then I was I was

1119
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:33,880
thinking about, you know, obviously, when we do the band

1120
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,880
specials and stuff, and we rank records at the end.

1121
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,480
I was thinking like some of the lower ends of that,

1122
00:51:38,519 --> 00:51:40,800
and I've was drawn to the Amazon Chain special we

1123
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,639
did when we came out of what is generally perceived

1124
00:51:43,639 --> 00:51:45,519
to be their worst album, The Devil's but Dinosaurs Here.

1125
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:48,199
But we were all like like, yeah, this album is

1126
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,400
like really good. And I was looking down that track

1127
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,000
list and I was like, fucking voices, pretty done, lab Monkey,

1128
00:51:54,119 --> 00:51:55,760
Breath on a Window. I'd love to hear any of

1129
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,679
those tracks live, and particularly I was gonna pick one

1130
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,679
of those voices I think is the kind of forgotten

1131
00:51:59,679 --> 00:52:02,719
one that I think is on par with any of

1132
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,280
the Allison Chains singles that they've done, you know, since

1133
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,559
kind of coming back. So that's a real shout for me,

1134
00:52:09,159 --> 00:52:12,119
I think. So that is that question covered, and then

1135
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:15,400
we're gonna end with Emi Lanio asks what gadget enhance

1136
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,199
your enjoyment of music to the point that you feel

1137
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,800
uncomfortable when you can't, for whatever reason use them? Now

1138
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,840
I am going to I don't know, I you can,

1139
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,199
you know, tell me if I'm wrong, But I would

1140
00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:27,000
imagine speaking for kind of a lot of us here,

1141
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:32,519
this is not really how I engage with music, Like,

1142
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,079
I don't think any of us on this podcast are

1143
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,239
you know, we take it seriously, But what do I

1144
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
think what you would describe as like extreme audio files

1145
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,679
right where we have to have a certain you know,

1146
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,320
kind of again series of gadgets or whatever in order

1147
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,920
to like, you know, putting one hundred thousands of pounds

1148
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,760
into stuff. I am of the opinion that, like, yeah,

1149
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,519
that stuff is cool, and you know, obviously I want

1150
00:52:55,519 --> 00:52:57,920
my stuff to sound good, right like I want to

1151
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,800
you know, I want I want to have a decent

1152
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:04,679
viel Player whatever, not fucking Crossley. I want to have like,

1153
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,840
you know, version of the albums that aren't fucking like

1154
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:11,559
two forty p ripped off of Lime wire whatever. But

1155
00:53:11,679 --> 00:53:16,119
I do kind of subscribe to the idea that music

1156
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,639
is about ultimately is about feeling and about emotion, and

1157
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,719
if something is failing to inspire that feeling and emotion

1158
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:27,920
because you've not got your kind of peak audio file

1159
00:53:28,039 --> 00:53:31,880
level gear, then that's a failing of the art to

1160
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:34,480
a degree. And so my list of gadgets I have

1161
00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:38,079
is again, I've got like a semi decent but not

1162
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,599
crazy expensive, top of the line by any means, vinyl

1163
00:53:40,599 --> 00:53:42,639
player that I use for home listening. I have my

1164
00:53:43,239 --> 00:53:45,440
good pair of headphones which I use for music, and

1165
00:53:45,599 --> 00:53:48,320
a shitty pair of headphones I will use for anything

1166
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:52,199
kind of non musical. And that's the extent of it.

1167
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,639
I do not have my gadgets that as this question

1168
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:58,400
kind of prescribes that I am like, cannot be found

1169
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,440
anywhere without and if I do not have it, then

1170
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:01,719
music is dead to me.

1171
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,079
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm like the least fussy person that

1172
00:54:06,159 --> 00:54:08,639
comes to I'm just like again, music me is always

1173
00:54:08,639 --> 00:54:11,519
on a purely emotional level. I've got like a decent

1174
00:54:11,519 --> 00:54:13,719
pair of headphones I use at home. Most leagues I

1175
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,679
don't like taking milks and worry they'll like, dam was

1176
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:19,320
like that. And then I have my my cheaper headphones

1177
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:20,760
that I have wh I'm out about on the go.

1178
00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 2: And that's kind of it. Like I'm a record player, like.

1179
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you say, music is about home.

1180
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: It makes you feel.

1181
00:54:28,039 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 4: And the other day I was listening to check Yes

1182
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,360
Juliet by Weaver King is on the phone speaker with

1183
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,199
my brother, and trust me, I fell to everything.

1184
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: You can listen to, fucking honey, it's your birthday or

1185
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:42,000
whatever the fuck that song you just described like on

1186
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:49,559
any film speaker you like. Yeah, so thank you for

1187
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:52,880
those questions. As said, we'll be back with questions next year,

1188
00:54:53,159 --> 00:54:57,400
I suppose. Speaking of again, we've mentioned a couple of times.

1189
00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:01,199
Of course, this episode over on Patreon this week, which

1190
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:03,280
is patron dot com slash that's done mettle. That is

1191
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:04,920
of course where you can go and sign up and

1192
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,719
you can get our proper deep dive of full length

1193
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:11,360
special podcasts that we do, and the one that we

1194
00:55:11,519 --> 00:55:16,840
embarked on this week was a revival of the overview

1195
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:20,079
of a Year in Rock special. We chose to do

1196
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:23,360
the year two thousand and fourteen first of all, to

1197
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,880
do a year where we all were present and have memories.

1198
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:27,440
I think at some point maybe it would be fun

1199
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:29,719
to go back and do really old years for people

1200
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,480
who have requested that. But to start with, we really

1201
00:55:31,519 --> 00:55:34,559
want to make it slightly more personal to us, I suppose,

1202
00:55:34,599 --> 00:55:39,000
So we put twenty fourteen and we embarked on a

1203
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,719
special where this first part I'm very proud of the

1204
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,920
stupid thumbnail that me and Mark were choosing to go

1205
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,719
on and put together. The next part is going to

1206
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,119
be a doozy as well. But as you can see

1207
00:55:49,119 --> 00:55:52,960
from that image an awful lot of the big hip

1208
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,760
and happening stuff that was going on in metal that

1209
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:00,599
year particularly. We are going to carry on, We're going

1210
00:56:00,679 --> 00:56:02,440
to look at things like, you know, what was going

1211
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,280
on Emo at the time, the underground metal as well,

1212
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:07,800
but just as kind of like the you know, the

1213
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:09,760
more mainstream end of metal that we did. In this part.

1214
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,559
There was I still think, like more to talk about

1215
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:15,239
than you would even have an average year. Like there

1216
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,679
was so much in terms of looking at changing trends,

1217
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,400
looking at actually, in some cases, how far we've come

1218
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,519
in a decade. I mean that both positively and how.

1219
00:56:26,519 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 2: Far we've fallen in some regards.

1220
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, even in an academic sense just kind of not

1221
00:56:31,119 --> 00:56:34,559
even opinion based, but like how things have changed in

1222
00:56:35,039 --> 00:56:36,639
a decade. I mean, for example, we were looking at

1223
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,159
like ten years of baby metal being a thing, and

1224
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,960
all the things that someone ten years ago could never

1225
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,679
have imagined about baby metal and their kind of longevity

1226
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:49,360
to now going into then all of like again the

1227
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,679
wild stories and mishaps and the villains and so on

1228
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,280
that was going on. Sam was wheeling out some hot

1229
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,079
takes on albums. I was not to put it on you,

1230
00:56:57,159 --> 00:56:59,840
I was wheeling out some hot takes on certain fairly

1231
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:02,519
loved albums as well. Well we had one.

1232
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 2: We all had one.

1233
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:07,719
Speaker 3: Everyone had one like hot takes, yeah, like like brazen

1234
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,440
and abrasive.

1235
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of fun to do over

1236
00:57:13,079 --> 00:57:15,760
like several albums just to really like go remember all

1237
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,039
of this. There was so much to take in.

1238
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:22,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a blast, Like I say, twenty fourteen

1239
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,599
Metal cores number one Warrior, like in the pit there

1240
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:28,440
going hard. Get to like just relive some of those

1241
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:31,559
like times good and bad, like what a treat.

1242
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty fourteen is a really special year for me

1243
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,480
and still contain some of the like lots of my

1244
00:57:38,559 --> 00:57:41,519
favorite albums. Ever, so it's just lovely to have a

1245
00:57:41,519 --> 00:57:45,320
twypto memory memory Lane. Really, And if you're you know,

1246
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,079
don't worry. Part two is gonna have hot takes. There's

1247
00:57:48,119 --> 00:57:50,920
a chance I might say something daft about a unique

1248
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,760
six song.

1249
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:56,599
Speaker 2: I've got your back, don't worry. We're in this together.

1250
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we can put it together the script. And

1251
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,360
I'm actually scared to do part two because there is

1252
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,440
quite simply so many albums.

1253
00:58:04,679 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 2: Parent print to give the script.

1254
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 3: When it was like, yeah, here's like here's all the comes,

1255
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,760
and here's like a million extreme metalboun.

1256
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:14,119
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of albums from both you

1257
00:58:14,119 --> 00:58:15,480
know again the email and stuff as well. There's a

1258
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:17,920
lot of albums that are not just good albums but

1259
00:58:18,039 --> 00:58:21,519
genuine classics that were released that year where I would

1260
00:58:21,519 --> 00:58:23,760
feel bad to kind of cut and not remark on

1261
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:28,480
a whole lot of them. So I'm genuinely nervous going

1262
00:58:28,519 --> 00:58:31,079
into this next part about kind of like really punching

1263
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:32,719
our way through all of it, but that I think

1264
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:35,960
you should express just how much is going on within

1265
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:39,760
this special. We've had some really like again fun feedback

1266
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,000
from people who are also going down memory lay revisiting albums,

1267
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,320
maybe albums that I guess I'll ask you guys, like,

1268
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:47,599
if there's one album from the first part we did

1269
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,360
that you maybe hadn't listened to in a long time

1270
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,960
that for this you remembered, Oh, this album is really good.

1271
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:56,239
What would be all kind of rediscovery be from the

1272
00:58:56,239 --> 00:58:56,679
first part.

1273
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 5: I'm ashamed to say it is the debut Issues album

1274
00:59:00,639 --> 00:59:03,800
I had so like written off that ever caring about

1275
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,400
what even that band ha done again for various reasons,

1276
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:09,920
two arms and didn't like vocalist being a twat eventually

1277
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,239
just unceremonious break up.

1278
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 3: But going back to that first Issues album is just like,

1279
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,400
this was it in twenty fourteen.

1280
00:59:17,199 --> 00:59:18,280
Speaker 2: This was the future of.

1281
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:21,639
Speaker 3: Melcor that I was like strapped in for and I

1282
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,320
should probably feel ashamed, but god, it's good.

1283
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 4: No, I'm the same, and you know, tell you a

1284
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:32,440
little spoiler, but when you said Issues might be a

1285
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:34,480
ten out of ten, that's the most relief I've ever

1286
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:37,960
felt in my life.

1287
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 1: I was really relieved that there were again were various

1288
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,199
abums that we did disagree on. I was really relieved

1289
00:59:42,199 --> 00:59:45,440
how much we all enjoyed the Sabatur album. That was

1290
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,519
a nice moment.

1291
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: I got that one wrong at the time, and it

1292
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:49,800
was a fun one to go back.

1293
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: But you know what bad as I remember it being

1294
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:56,840
yeah and massive like some of their like power Symphonic Metal.

1295
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,599
Piers also had some very funny and interesting fourteen. So

1296
01:00:00,639 --> 01:00:03,199
that is everything that went underway in that first part.

1297
01:00:03,199 --> 01:00:05,840
As said, we are going to be continuing with that,

1298
01:00:06,039 --> 01:00:09,119
moving into a whole load more of what was going

1299
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:11,360
on in twenty fourteen. So if you want to get

1300
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:15,119
involved and join those discussions that we have, then you

1301
01:00:15,159 --> 01:00:17,239
can go and do so at patroon dot com. Slash

1302
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,360
that's not metal in support would mean the world, So

1303
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,840
thank you to everybody who has chosen to do that.

1304
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:27,199
Let's end this hyperblasts with the releases for the twenty

1305
01:00:27,239 --> 01:00:30,360
second of November and the first one off the bat

1306
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,800
maybe for me. One of the last albums that I

1307
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,079
was like, really looking forward to this year is the

1308
01:00:36,119 --> 01:00:39,239
new album from Opeth called The Last Will and Testament.

1309
01:00:39,239 --> 01:00:41,480
A lot of kind of I don't know speculation from

1310
01:00:41,519 --> 01:00:42,920
the moment they dropped the lead single about what the

1311
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,280
ze Bath might sound like. I can tell you it

1312
01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:49,639
is wild and we can move on from their elsewhere

1313
01:00:49,719 --> 01:00:52,920
body Count have an album out called Mercy. I feel

1314
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:54,639
that's kind of flown under the radar that BodyCount have

1315
01:00:54,639 --> 01:00:56,840
an album out this late in the year, but they do,

1316
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,000
so that is available to you if you want something

1317
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:02,960
a little bit more to the point than Opeth, and

1318
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:05,559
maybe Ice Tea will drop a Bitch like Sam Carter

1319
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:09,559
did elsewhere. Kim Deal of the Breeders is actually releasing

1320
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:13,960
a solo album called Nobody Loves You More. Ocean Grow

1321
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:16,679
haven't had from this band in quite a while. The

1322
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:21,079
kind of Australian new metal revival band. I suppose Odd World.

1323
01:01:21,159 --> 01:01:25,480
They've released a record. Polar, the UK band who you

1324
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:31,000
guys here like you two here both Polar fans right then, Yeah,

1325
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:33,920
they've got an album called Nova. Speaking of soft spots

1326
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:39,239
for you, Mark Fellowship, the UK's finest Disney power metal band.

1327
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:42,039
They're releasing a record of the Skies at the Eternity

1328
01:01:42,039 --> 01:01:44,119
and the first one was like in or Around Your

1329
01:01:44,159 --> 01:01:45,800
like Top twenty albums of the year when we did it, it

1330
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:46,119
was in.

1331
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:48,599
Speaker 2: There that was number nineteen.

1332
01:01:49,679 --> 01:01:52,039
Speaker 4: I will say I saw a Fellowship a couple of

1333
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:54,199
months ago and they played a few songs from this

1334
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,559
and they're indistinguishable from other Fellowship.

1335
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:02,800
Speaker 1: So if you like them metal, then there you go.

1336
01:02:03,199 --> 01:02:04,960
Another band whose name I hadn't seen pop up in

1337
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,599
quite a while, but Coil Guns, the kind of noise

1338
01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:11,440
rock band, have got an album called odd Love. If

1339
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,000
you want some kind of slightly proggy, I guess you

1340
01:02:14,039 --> 01:02:16,239
know heavy stuff, it's a band called Mr with an

1341
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,559
accent above the U because I believe they're Icelandic or

1342
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:20,559
something along that nature. Moor I have got a self

1343
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:24,719
titled album out for your brutal death metal Defeated Sanity,

1344
01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:26,840
one of the kind of forever go to to that style,

1345
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:30,639
Chronicles of Lunacy. There's also a newer band called Gutless

1346
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,800
whoever record called High Impact Violence, which is very uh,

1347
01:02:35,039 --> 01:02:39,000
does I suppose in black metal? A UK black metal

1348
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:41,360
band called Anti Inferno. I've got a record out called

1349
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:43,760
Death Soliloquy. I've been doing a piece of work on

1350
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,199
that album and I would say it's pretty good, So

1351
01:02:45,239 --> 01:02:47,119
I would recommend that one to you guys who all

1352
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:50,719
enjoy your kind of you know, melodic but also very evil,

1353
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:54,119
still black metal, and in that vein Panza Faust. I've

1354
01:02:54,119 --> 01:02:55,960
also got a record out called The Sons of Perdition

1355
01:02:56,119 --> 01:02:58,800
Chapter four to shadows Ion, and there's a few EPs.

1356
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,599
Firstly Cruelty with a K this time the Japanese death

1357
01:03:03,679 --> 01:03:06,360
slash hardcore band who are pretty popular at the moment.

1358
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:10,400
They've got ep out called Profane Usurpation. If you are

1359
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:11,960
more in the kind of you know, sort of more

1360
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,400
alternative newer modern metals style, as a band from the

1361
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,119
UK called Malavora called Echoes, and something that I simply

1362
01:03:19,159 --> 01:03:23,559
have to hear is Doro herself is releasing a two

1363
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:26,679
track EP tomorrow called rock and Roll exmus Party.

1364
01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:31,119
Speaker 2: Hell, yes, I mean it's November, Dora. We can't be

1365
01:03:31,159 --> 01:03:33,400
having a rock and roll exmus party in November. I'm

1366
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,440
sorry I have to draw a line more than a.

1367
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 4: Month before, but it be a month long party.

1368
01:03:40,239 --> 01:03:42,679
Speaker 1: It will be, so there you go have at it.

1369
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:47,119
Thank you everybody for listening here today. As said, next

1370
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,360
up from us is going to be the continuation of

1371
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,480
our twenty fourteen special, which you can go in hear

1372
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:56,280
over at the That's Oar Metal Patreon next here on

1373
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:59,320
the main feed. Next week we do have one final

1374
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,559
reviews show for you this year where we have quite

1375
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:08,760
a few yet there's a small handful of really big, important,

1376
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,880
fucking releases in November, and so we of course have

1377
01:04:11,960 --> 01:04:15,159
to close off our reviewing chapter of twenty twenty four

1378
01:04:15,239 --> 01:04:17,679
with talking about a bunch of those and some kind

1379
01:04:17,679 --> 01:04:19,599
of slightly more underground picks if you haven't heard those

1380
01:04:20,079 --> 01:04:21,800
as well, so you can come back here for that.

1381
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:24,920
I should also warn you you don't have to do

1382
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,559
it right now. It won't be eligible until we actually

1383
01:04:27,639 --> 01:04:31,280
open it. But with next week's review show, we are

1384
01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,039
also going to be opening the listener Album of the

1385
01:04:34,119 --> 01:04:36,639
Year poll in order to have all of that wrapped

1386
01:04:36,719 --> 01:04:38,760
up within a couple weeks of there when we come

1387
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,880
to doing our Albums the Year and so on. But

1388
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,159
if you need like advanced warning and want to be

1389
01:04:44,199 --> 01:04:47,280
there straight away, then next week, along with that review show,

1390
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,840
we'll be opened up the Album of the Year poll

1391
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:51,719
as well, So yeah, we'll see you there for all

1392
01:04:51,719 --> 01:04:54,719
of that. Get excited, get geared up, and thank you

1393
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,679
again for being here. So there you go, Bye bye.