Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to That's Not Metal. We are
your weekly rock, hardcore, heavy metal, heavy music podcast, and
we are here today for another episode of Hyperblast. This
will actually our final Hyperblasts of the year, if you
can believe it, because the remainder of November, I think
going into December, we've got some bigger stuff planned the
year really begins to wind down. So this is our
final relatively short form news bulletin we have of the year.
I say relatively because we've got a whole load of
singles that dropped in the past couple of days to
kind of like speed run our way through. But that
what we are here to do today. My name is
Parry and Haish opposite me to do all of just that,
we have Sam Dignon and Mark Sanderson. You two had
a nice experience in the last week of you know,
on separate nights and separate places, but you both went
to go see Jim Eat World on their UK tour
with with pup in support as well, and you know,
with a bill like that, and I still the last
time I saw Jim Eat World was still prior to
us doing that special and I was fully like, I'm
gonna make it to the next tour and then the
date here like sold out in an instant and with
a support like that, it would have been abolutely the
time to do it. So I'm genuinely jealous, but rather quickly,
and let's start with PUP first, I guess because this
is I mean, I'm sure they would have done something
like this before in terms of some larger venues and stuff.
But I guess you know, if you go see PUP headline,
it's going to be not in a place like you know,
for example, in London Elexandra Palace, So how did they
manage in terms of like big room?
Speaker 2: I mean in London.
Speaker 3: What I'll say is I I've been seeing PUP for
a decade and it was just like, oh bless them,
I'm seeing them on Alexandra Palace on a big stage
and they were their tiny little postage stamp back drop
on on the stage.
Speaker 2: I was like, this rocks.
Speaker 3: They had a really nice, kind of solid, dedicated group
of PUP fans down the front going off for the
entire set in London, which.
Speaker 2: And like they were.
Speaker 3: It's funny because Jimmy World, a lot of their fans
are quite nice. Papa are a bit spiky for some
Jimmy World fans at Yaz, which was which was quite funny,
specially they do songs like Waiting and like the newest
of that is like really weird and unhinged when those hits,
but I mean Reservoir on a stage at Alexandria Palace,
I was like, this is where like a song like
this good should be cranked out.
Speaker 2: And they were just really like Papa's so endearing.
Speaker 3: They are just genuinely just like four very lovely Canadian
dudes who can't go on stage and they rip it
and they rock and I was just like, yeah, gone, Pup.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I'm not necessarily a pop fan, not that I
dislike them. I've just never connected to them in the
same way everyone now seems to have, which is annoying
because I like a lot of Pup adjacent things. So
I've never seen them live, but it was so much fun.
I don't really know the song. I know a couple
of the songs obviously, but it was just really infectious
and even a corode full of like people folding their
arms couldn't dissuade me from having a boogoo with my brother.
Speaker 1: Well that is very good to hear and then Jimmy
will which I suppose. I mean in a way, there's
not a lot to kind of write home about in
terms of like they're not supporting a particular album or anything.
It's just kind of Jimmy wild toll. But am I
right in saying that these are like basically the biggest
venues that Jimmy at World have done, at least in
the UK. London was their biggest however, Yeah, I mean
so considering there's not much again, there's no real I
don't know, swell or anything behind them right now, that's
kind of impressive to just decide to do, like, you know,
thirty years into their career or whatever. So I guess
how did that go down?
Speaker 3: London sold out, sold out well in advance. This was
like so a couple of months ago, so I think
there was just kind of some sort of everyone kind
of like, let's go see Jimmy World. I want to,
you know, like they never man who sidly said let's
be a big let's let's find anyone how big we are.
But they were fantastic, best I've ever seen them, absolutely
just gorgeous, stunning, wonderful set list, like very focused on
Bleed American and Futures, but the future tracks they didn't
necessarily do all the obvious things of that, like opening
with pain was like fucking yeah, le let's go.
Speaker 2: What an opener.
Speaker 3: And then you know, they did work really on, but
then they did like night drives and like stuff like that,
like like deeper like cuts off of Futures, good amount
of stuff off Clarity Coward's version of Goodbye Sky Harbor.
I will say, not doing the full sixteen minutes come
on now, but yeah, they just they came on.
Speaker 2: They just ninety minutes, ripped through.
Speaker 3: Twenty plus songs, sounded incredible, had again just the most
infectious energy.
Speaker 2: Crowd loved it.
Speaker 3: Crowd really went off for like the big hits, and
they were like still into the kind of lesser obvious
sort of songs. It was just such a great time.
I like just it flew by. I was just sort
of singing.
Speaker 2: My heart out the entire time.
Speaker 3: Sweetness five songs in, I was like, fucking, let's go.
Ending the main set on the opening run of Bleed American.
You cannot end U set a better way if you're
going to crank out the title track. Praise across the
middle to close out your main set just perfect. You
can't you can't thought that, but I had just a
wonderful time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, best band ever. I love them so much. They
also did the coverage version of five five five by
making it acoustic.
Speaker 2: And that was that was really nice though, I did
I did like that, like it was nice.
Speaker 4: I really like that song.
Speaker 3: And then going straight to Hear You Me was just
like my Cinderella Story moment.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was torn my football helmet done on.
Speaker 3: The girls thinking about you when we like say our
little like time we went to that, we went for
lunch together and he came on as we walked into
the cafe.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is it.
Speaker 4: This is the perfect moment, and that was magical. I
think about that all the time. But yeah, I mean
to move rather point twenty three and Big Casino. These
are like my favorite songs ever.
Speaker 1: I have the best night Like Yeah was the encore
that looked really yeah. That was like the slightly more.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah night drive and the world Yeah so long
as the Yeah.
Speaker 3: That was like too deeper track two deeper cuts off
of futures.
Speaker 2: I was like, fucking this is so cool, Like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, two songs I never expected to see live. No
one else in the crowd cared like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like for the on call when they've
already done the middle and all that is a bit
like this is for the the really really like the
hardcore fans who really know I like.
Speaker 3: That, though I kind of wish more bands would treat
encores like that, as do like, end your main set
on the big hitters and then do something cool and
interesting for the encore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because I think me and most people there were thinking, okay,
OnCore is probably gonna be like my best theory and
then maybe always be. But no, it was two like rarities.
Speaker 1: I was buzzing, Yeah, sounds lovely, and like I said,
I really next time they do, I really do need
to sort of that out. Okay, as said, we have
one of I guess because we're like starting to get
all the announcements for albums earlier next year. It's one
of those weeks where a lot of the big bands
are all at once dropping their their singles and album announcements.
So we are going to do our best who kind
of like speed gauntlet our way through. I think a
lot of these songs there's not necessarily like a actual
ton to say about them musically, but we can kind
of give you the like, right, what can we expect
from an album based on this kind of move through
the approach? First off, I guess I say why some
of these songs maybe don't have the most amount the
musical is because a lot of these are those like
we've already released two singles from our album, but here's
the actual announcement to go with it. Lead single. Kind
of deal very much in that. Guys. We have spirit
Box who have released the first single that is tied
to the announcement of an album. I should say the
album is called Tsunami Sea. I guess a bit of
like a water theme developing with their titles so far.
It's going to be out on March the seventh of
twenty twenty five. It will be four years between a term,
like maybe three and a half if you've been really
strict about it, but twenty twenty one to twenty five.
It does feel I know they had the EP in
the middle, so they've always been around, but quite a
gap for a band as like you know, Propelled to
the Moon on their debut as a spirit Box were
So that is it's good to see. There's well, you know,
find that is coming to a close again very quick
because we already had Soft Spine fairly recently, which is
going to be on this album. But this follow up
single that we have, which is called Perfect Soul, I'm
at a stage of a spirit box right Like every
single I hear I go like, yeah, that's very good,
like not particularly revolutionary, and it's you know, not something
that I've immediately gone like, oh wow, that's like them
really I don't know, come with the bit between their teeth,
but I've just repeatedly gone, yeah, that's very very good. Yeah.
Speaker 4: So it's like spirit Box.
Speaker 3: For like this branch strand of metalcre I think spirit
Box other one just doing just it to a good standard.
I think this is you know, it's more it's been
more on the melodic side, like Corney Hurclean. Vocal is
really nice on it. It's very like pretty vocally. The
riff is still kind of punching, hard hitting, it doesn't
feel too heavily processed. I'm still kind of wishing they'd
do a bit more of that kind of rotoscope like
dance sort of thing. I really want more of that
from my spirit Box and they they've kind of left
that as a one off, and I'm like, you were.
Speaker 2: So good at that, do more of it. But no,
this is I think this is.
Speaker 3: This is a good like first like proper lead single,
I guess one of less soft Fine coming up and
I say, oh, no, you are getting that nice contrast
between the heavy and the soft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, singles that are like, yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I think Soft Spine and Circle with Me, sorry soft
Spine in this one. They almost feel a bit like
Holy Roller and Circle with Me.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: From the previous one it was like, here's the really
heavy one, here's the really nice maddit one. I think
these songs again that they're not quite hitting the like,
oh shit, there's something really big here Ripple that you
felt with like Holy Roller or Circle with Me. But
maybe that's the effect of like only being able to
kind of break through and introduce yourself once, you know.
Speaker 4: But even then, like the first time I heard Jade
did I that blew my screw up? I love that song.
That's like one of my favorite Spurrobox songs. Now, I
do think this is. I mean I like it obviously
because I think I like every single Spurrobox song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 4: Like top tier from me, it's just another Yeah, that's
a really nice chorus song.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think these singles are again, very very good.
I just hope that there is We don't get a
second album where we go like, yeah, that's fine, but
you know, I hope there's a bit more punch basically
to follow up something that was, as you know, everywhere
and unavoidable. As Eternal Blue was speaking of unavoidable. We
also have a new album announcement from Architects, who have
said that their album The Sky, The Earth and All
Between is going to be coming out on February twenty eighth,
I think, using my my math's brain, that is the
week before the spirit Box album comes out. Album number
eleven from Architects, they have wrapped them up, haven't they,
And they at least a single to go along with
this announcement, which is called Whiplash. Once again, we can
look down at this track list and we can see
that Seeing Red and Curse are both in there. So
we have, I guess, you know, a pretty good idea
from like a trio of singles of kind of how
this album might be shaping up again in that kind
of vein with this being the third single, now, not
a lot of kind of like huge curve balls to
be found, I suppose in this and so much is
said about Architects are so much conversation around a band
who have in the last couple of years largely released
the same couple of song templates, you know, kind of
repeatedly that we had a huge conversation on our discord
about it. Even though again I hear this song and
I go like, yeah, that's kind of what I would
expect an Architects song in twenty twenty four to do.
I think this song it has some nice kind of
bouncy rifts in it, like I was maybe expecting more
of that, Like you know, they really tried like the
Ramstein thing last time around, and this has a bit
more of that gent back into it, which was I
guess the biggest thing to a surprise involved. And then
the switch into the chorus was like, ah, there's the
like machine Bread Architects that we now kind of know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the chorus is the moment where I switch off
on this one, and it's it's the fish chorus. As
I'm kind of just sort of yeah, Jordan Fish has
one chorus and he just he trots it out on
the bands he works.
Speaker 2: Now it's that.
Speaker 3: It's I was like, okay, so the only real I
was like, yeah, there's some bounce there the first verse,
Sam is like really at it, and then of course
and then that second verse it's all the kind of
like glitchy electronics and I was just like, ah, we
are in twenty twenty four metal core territory and we
are happy and like we are just sticking to that.
And I was like, I'm so dumb with that sound.
This is this year has been like a breaking point
for that sound for me. And I won't go up
with the poppy at the kind of like thing that
really did it for me.
Speaker 1: But well there's Fish again, isn't it. So yeah, that's it.
Speaker 3: It's the Fish thing. But like and then it was
like the build up to the breakdown. It was kind
of the same kind of like quiet build into the
into then the big like Mosscow breaking.
Speaker 2: I was like, Architects, you're you.
Speaker 3: Are better this And again it's a big stompy of
arena rock song cool or arena metal song cool that
like and it does like I'm sure it will sound huge,
but I'm like, there's there's so much more you could
do with this formula to be bigger and better with it.
And it feels if this feels like architect's kind of
settling into a groove now that they probably I mean,
they'd say it feels like they've been there for a
couple of years.
Speaker 2: But this is just like the kind of like nailing
it on.
Speaker 4: I have no idea what I think of this, because
like it comes in, the riff is big and like
thick as far as daft thick, and I do enjoy it.
And I enjoyed the breakdown where Sam throws out mother fucker.
Speaker 1: Like does he say bitch before he goes into the breakdown?
Speaker 2: I think he does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was clutching my pearls. But I was like, Samuel,
there's a weird light no deploying swear words in this,
like a teenager who's just discovered limp biscuit for the
first time, you know, Like if the chorus is you
know what that is? The world done fucking around? It's
a bit like, I don't know, there's a touch of
fever three through three lyrics, Like it's a little bit
like mass appeal to to like a gen z audience
of like feels a little like basic, I.
Speaker 4: Mean, dropping bitch before a breakdown, like our king Frankie
pow Mary many a time. I think the chorus.
Speaker 1: Architects being compared to him with like not without good reason.
Speaker 2: Says it all, doesn't it really?
Speaker 4: I mean it's the biggest, thickest bounty. It is basically
a fucking a mirror song with a bring me the
Horizon chorus.
Speaker 1: Stapled on it. Yeah, I basically agree, and I thought
that again the riff don't dislike the sound of the
riff is pretty decent. I just think this is, you know,
if this is where they're like they're really angry, material
is at, you know, in twenty twenty four. It's it's
a long way from the real I don't know. I
felt very little during it, like it's it's a long
way from the real like scathing properly galvanizing thing that
they were once able to do when they were angry.
And it's still sound so I don't know, again, octane
in that kind of chorus, I mean lyrically with the
like you know, tribalism, unable to kind of speak with
anyone outside of your own circle, which again Archtets have
kind of done before and like Discourse is dead, haven't they?
But this, weirdly it struck me. It's like a stupid
version of Endarkenment by an Alna Thrack, which, while we're
at it had a big chorus, didn't it. So But yeah,
like it's I don't I'm not writing off the album
because again, all these like songs that have been released, I
thought Curse was really good, like that has a chorus
that I think is in line with the best of
these like more radio ready architect songs that they've been
plugging in the twenty twenties. Like in theory, I think
we say this a lot. We're not actually against them
doing that move if they don't just kind of like
recycle themselves a lot. But I guess it's on them
to disprove the idea that the album will kind of
just be a bunch of these because I think the idea,
Dear that they have turned into a one trick pony
is kind of it's had weight added to it in
the last couple of years, and it balls in their
court now to really kind of do that. That is
the pairing of very you know, kind of contemporary metalcore
work where it's all that. We also have had the
return though of Killswitch Engage, who again, this feels like
a long time coming in terms of, like, you know,
Killswitch Engage another band we've done like a special on
and that was one of the I don't know the
earlier ones we did after like launching the Patreon and
that was years ago. We still this is the first
thing we've heard from Killswitch in that time. It's been
Atonement was twenty nineteen, so this is the first Killswitch Engage, So.
Speaker 2: Six years basically, like yeah, it album comes.
Speaker 1: Like half a decade we haven't heard from Killswitch Engage.
It really has been like a bit of a slumbering
period from them. But they've also got a record again.
Moving back the week's next year, February the twenty first,
a record called This Consequence, and the single from this
is out called Forever Aligned, And I guess, you know,
obviously we're moving away from the very twenty twenty four
idea of metalcore again here back to something more kind
of classic. I never know where my expectations are for
Killswitch Engage these days, because there are on a few
albums in a row that haven't lit the world on
fire again. When we did our special, I think a
lot of us agreed that a Tonguement was a bit
better than Incarnate was. And there's some songs on I
mean both those records, but particularly on Atonement, there's a
few songs that I think are really really great. But
I remember that when they released the lead single from
that album, I was like, hmm, you know, not really
again doing it majorly for me, So I don't really
know how I expected the kills which engage someone to
kind of sound even and this starts with like a
death cord chug, and I was like.
Speaker 3: What, I couldn't believe how hard the first like minute
of this is.
Speaker 2: For the chorus, I was like.
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, kill Switch, Oh you there's really just like
guitars and like almost like a definitely growl on Jesse,
like he's vote like really like ripping it. I was like, ah,
after just you know, with my twenty four middle call Black,
I was like, oh, this is this is doing something
to me, Like there are a few things I want more.
Speaker 2: In this world than kills which engaged to be at it.
Speaker 3: I love this band and I want them to be
and again, like for an album, I don't know if
I'm going to expect this from the album.
Speaker 2: I think as a leader, this is fucking great.
Speaker 3: It's so hard on the verses, and when that chorus hits,
I'm like, and there we go, big league guitar Jesse
belting out a big kind of emotional chorus.
Speaker 2: It does everything I want kills Which Engaged to do.
I think this is so good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is kill Switch are one of my bands.
Like I like everything they've done pretty much press and
play on this. It's just it's just so comfy. I
don't know if the chorus is the most memorable thing
in the world, but I can listen to kill Stitch
Engage all day and have done many times in my life.
I think. I do think the production on the chorus
sounds a bit more flat compared to the rest of it.
It's like the track takes a noticeable dip.
Speaker 1: Because I listen to the architects so literally immediately beforehand.
But the switch did not feel so drastic to me.
I like the little, the little of the guitars you
get in the chorus that kind of fills the sound
out for me. I'm not saying this in terms of like,
you know, quality, in terms of taking some kind of
out of context like it's right off of Alive or
just breathing or whatever. But like it musically, maybe it's
that little touch of again brutality. Yeah, it has some
of those vibes, and in the verse, Jesse does that
like a new vatality and it's that that kind of
like half shouting. Yeah. Yeah, it had a bit of
that fucking like you know, fixation of the darkness or
whatever to me. So again it is you know again
a twenty five years in whatever Killswitch engaged kind of
doing it. That has an effect. But like, yeah, I
feel just on a purely lead single basis, I'm not
saying it's one of their greatest songs, but it's the
most positive we've been about a kill Switch lead single
in like a hot minute.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, no, I think it's like even like Strength
of the Man, which was a good single, I think
I might prefurtheres to Strength of the Mine because it
just it caught me off guard in how like brutish
that opening part is and then like again just nice
big chorus. It was like yeah, cool and just stood
out in a way I was like, kills You, you're
showing up some of the younger bands now by just
sounding more at it than a lot of these kind
of like very processed, tired sounding bands.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just weird to press play on a
kill Switch and Gage song and be surprised by the
first sounds I heard, you know, because like kills from
are a lot of things, they're not usually surprising. So
that was like cool and fun and I am, you know,
more intrigued by this Kilt child, I suppose especially it
has been a several years. We then move on to
machine Head and Sam, I bet you've had enough of
machine Heads, given the what we were about on the Patreon.
Speaker 3: This week, and mouth shut when it comes to machine
because I'm just gonna upset someone like with my heart
takes that maybe we're a little too hot even my standards,
and I've had to kind of wheel back a tiny.
Speaker 1: But Yeah, they've released a song that is from an
album that they have not actually announced, but they've said
it will be coming next year. I think they might
have said April next year, we might be looking at
a machine Head alum, which is it's been about was
it two and a half years now since the previous
one and Kingdom and Crown, so lining up just just right.
I suppose they've songs a song here called These Scars
Won't Define Us, which this song. It's weird to me
the idea that this song will be on and on
the album, because this song reeks of me to like
when Mastodon and the Lamb of God did their like collab
single as a One of God and created the exactly
this feels to me like it should be one of those.
And the idea that this is actually going to be
on an album, I mean, maybe it won't be. I
don't know, but I think they've said it is, so
the idea has been abb is very strange to me
because this is machine Heads all star touring line up
from the US tour all come together on the song,
which means that Inflamed, Lacuna, Coil, and Unearth are also
all part of this song. And I guess again, just
from a first couple listens, I was just I almost
couldn't judge it as a song by itself because I
was a bit just sort of taken aback by like
it's a bit disorientating having like THEO was quite different
elements like fucking Christina Scabia from Lacuna Coil turny up
and then You've got met your boy from an Earth
yelling at you. Was like, oh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this feels like a kind of weird grab bag
of different things, but quite a big chorus. Like I
think the chorus is like it's very like kind of cheesy,
kind of rallying machine head, but it's it's fast, it's frashy.
Speaker 2: The chorus is pretty big.
Speaker 3: Again the amount diferent vocals that come at you, and
some of them do just sound like slightly more ridiculous
when we put up against some of the others.
Speaker 2: And it's just all over the place. But yeah, you know,
I didn't mind this.
Speaker 4: I think it's a bunch of fun. Like in terms
of these ahead of a tour cool lab tracks, this
is probably one of the better ones I've heard. I
just think it's just a laugh. And especially when you
have this many bands involved with this many different elements,
like when the Book from the Earth turns up, it's like,
fucking hell, what is he doing? Nicely Christinascavier, it just
doesn't it just shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, I've not got my head around it.
Yet I think the thrashy riff is like pretty decent.
I think otherwise as a song, it's not my favorite.
The chorus to me feels very like we wrote to
this to play it like rock on the Range or whatever.
Kind of maybe maybe that's just a guest effect of
getting you know, highly mallred at people like you know,
Christina or whatever kind of involved with it. But it
reminded me a little bit of like a faster, thrashier
version of like, what's that is it? Is there anybody
out there? The Machine Head song, it's like you know,
radio rock one that they've did a couple of years ago. Yeah, yeah,
I mean it's it's inexplicable that their most players some
one Spotify. But like again, the chorus gave me like
a little bit like oh but while the rest of
it was again quite disorientating, you throw you around all
over places. I mean, maybe it or really grow on
me by the time we get to the album, but
I was a bit like hmm, okay, there's a lot
going on there. And then finally, Cohen and Cambria have
announced that their new album, Vaxis Part Three, The Father
of Make Believe, is going to be out on March
the fourteenth of next year. The Vaxis album so far
have been rather good. Mark you, we are a part
A big fan of Part two a couple years ago.
Weren't you so very exciting surely for you to be
getting Part three with this with the lead single in
the bag here, which is called what is it called?
It's called Searching for Tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't believe they're going forward with there's five
parts of Vaxes.
Speaker 3: I'm here for it, bring it, bring this nonsense, five
parts sci fi bollocks.
Speaker 4: As long as we hear more about that robot man
from the cover of Part two. I yeah, I'm always
excited for Coheed stuff. They're one of my bands I do.
This isn't one of my favorite songs from this Vaxis cycle,
but it is very listenable, I guess. But you know,
I wasn't a big fan of I mean, I liked it,
but I wasn't as big a fan of Shoulders when
that came ahead of Part two. But within the record,
I loved that, and that always happens with Cohed album.
So I'm expecting to like this now and love it later.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought this was decent. The main thing that
stuck out me again from one kind of cursory list
before coming on out here is there's a mad bridge
when it's suddenly like you're sucked out of the window
into space, Like what's going on there?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it starts with really weird sense as well. They're
really leaning into this like keyboard stuff.
Speaker 2: I really like this.
Speaker 3: I think this is like just a really good kind
of punchy, three minute, cohed like melodic rock song.
Speaker 2: I think they've been on just a really good run
since the sort.
Speaker 3: Of the second half of the twenty tens, Like now
I'm into the Vats trilogy or however many back sounds.
Speaker 2: Are going to get in. They've just really been kind
of just like at it.
Speaker 3: And again I don't think this is the best song
I've heard from the sort of Vaxe project, but I
just you know, in and out kind of just like
punchy rate like like pop rock coheed.
Speaker 2: I'm all for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep doing the depeche mode y keyboard thing, go
eighties rush. Now that they're in that kind of stage
of their career, why not. Yeah, So I do look
forward to hearing the rest of that record. I think
in general, It's a kind of a gauntlet of largely
sort of decent, if not incredible singles. That's kind of
what happens when you have a lot of the bands
who are all aiming for like radio airplay with their
songs or releasing songs in one week against the odds.
I think i'd say kill Switch is the kind of
winner of those, which isn't necessarily what I would have expected,
but yeah, good on them. This is a funny, slash
baffling piece of news. So remember that every single member
of asil A Dying, apart from Tim lambisis left the band.
Tim lanbisis is finding more band members to leave his bands.
It's still because Austrian death Machine, which I didn't even
realize was still going. I remember that from like the
early twenty tens, but Austrian Death Machine is now also imploding,
with the drummer of that band releasing a statement very
similar to what was released by all the members of
asil A Dying, citing kind of personal integrity in the
idea that whatever Tim is doing behind the scenes here,
like I think you can probably tell here that a
lot of people took a gamble on Tim of like
you say, you're doing better, so we'll trust you. And
I don't know. A few years in, everyone's going something's
happening behind the scenes here and to make everybody be like, actually, no,
fuck this guy. But I couldn't believe it when I
saw a headline that was like, now Austrian Death Machines
members leaving.
Speaker 3: It was the realizing the auction death Machine are still
functioning was like, I was that that's a surprise, but yeah,
it is the like, oh, my integrity, my morals have
been like questioned.
Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, you took the job in the
first place.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not going to judge, but yeah, it's
just quite funny that it's happening again.
Speaker 4: I mean, I for one, I'm shocked. He's the world's
most innocent man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and speaking of innocent men, normal men. Another headline
that was like, for Fox Sake WASP this past week
on their tour that you may remember, was going to
be Death Angel and unto others supporting them, and then
Death Angel like dropped off and unto others got kicked off,
and I bet they're rather pleased that right now. They
played in New York City this past week and at
the very end of their show, they literally made half
their audience get up and leave by unveiling Big Trump
twenty twenty four backs all over it are very big,
you know speech from Blackie about free speech and so on,
and Sam, I guess I want to just say what again.
We discussed this off there or whatever, and I think
you nailed it when you said that. Not only is
you know, personally we're not particularly you know, in favor yeah, science,
politics or whatever, but just in general, doing this for
whoever was the president, if you were here doing this
forever the prime minister is just not very cool. It's
not very like you know, rebellious metal all the things
that Wasp is kind of supposed to be literally going
not fuck the man, but like, yeah, the man who
is currently in power. Yeah, it is not very cool.
Speaker 2: This is it.
Speaker 3: It just the whole thing just feels just like like
I would feel the same way if a band I
like did it, if like the Democrats, like, guys, come on,
you're better than this, don't be like yeah, the people
in power, like it's just cringe. And and again this
is this is a thing with like particularly they no
matter for their in power, they think they're the rebellion.
They think they're you know, fighting like against the power.
It's like, no, you are the author. You are like
the machine. Yeah, just tone deaf and stupid and cringe
whichever way you spin it.
Speaker 4: Your fucking wasp, what are you doing. They're supposed to
be having boundards with naked ladies on or whatever the funk.
Speaker 1: You exactly bring back the naked ladies less of the
big orange men. And uh yeah, obviously we've been we've
had WASP on our mind recently. We've done WASP on
the podcasts and stuff. And my first thing I saw
when someone posted in the TNN group, I was like,
I was like, okay, look, we never said Wasp were smart.
I think we may have said exactly the opposite. So
everything still stands.
Speaker 4: It tracks, And then a lot of cases, that's why
we liked WASP in the first place, because they weren't smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a shame our things go, but is what
it is. Right, We've got a couple of huge for
their standards, I mean considering where what they were doing,
you know, just before they broke Upnal for a Friend
have announced two massive UK shows in twenty twenty five,
This is of course the Funeral Friend that is currently
still being fronted by Lucas Woodland from a holding absence,
who I heard did a sterling job when it came
to the various places where they've done that before. So
it's nicely that continuing on, I suppose, until they find
someone more permanent. But they are playing a big show
in the Millennium Square in Leeds, which is where slam
Dunk used to happen, and also one at the Cardiff Castle.
Now there's been a bit of controversy here because I'm
I right in saying that the Cardiff show is meant
to be Funeral and Skindred co headlining, and then Skindred
have dropped off the mourning. The tickets of like God
on Sale or something, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, schedule were on the initial lineup poster and then
I think this morning after like pre Saal or something
like that happened, Skindred cerdadenly disappeared off the poster and
there was another schedule look Pleasure and to like rub
salt into the wound, Skindren's replacement Punk Rock Factory. I
would be putting a hit on punk Rock Factory if
I bought a teat, and that happened.
Speaker 1: I would much rather see Benji Webb's solo barbecue album
during COVID performing novelgy covers than punk rock factories. I say,
just get into that instead. The thing I liked about
this even before Skindred dropped off, is you know, okay, sure,
funeral and Skindred is a good time. I looked at
the rest of the lotime went are poor whales If
this is what you've got to offer, the blackout and
kill the lights poor whales?
Speaker 3: Hey, the blackout, I mean the blackout come out. There's
looking like champs if you ask me, like they always do.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I'm sort of glad about the Skindred thing because I
was this close to buying a ticket for Gardens and
though I just have to go to the leads and said, yeah,
so that's good.
Speaker 1: I can just go back to what I just sort
of alluded to earlier. I guess this is, you know,
the nostalgia thing, the way things come in waves or whatever.
But it's crazy to think a funeral for a friend
on their last couple of albums before they broke up
the first time where they were playing like non existent
venues like complete Yeah, like tiny shows for about at
this and then they could just come out and be like, yeah,
just kind of on our own name, We're just gonna
do a castle and the Square in the middle of leads.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Like when I first started seeing them, I was
seeing them in like half empty, four hundred capacity venues.
Speaker 2: It's mad.
Speaker 4: I'm so tough for them, Like and I normally like,
I'm so sick of all this nostalgia stuff, but part
of me does want to go because I want to
see them while they still have Lucas on vocals, Like
he's a powerful vocalist. I want to see those songs
with that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an intrigue thing for sure. Speaking of something
in a similar vein, Frank Carter fronted you know, version
of the Sex Pistols. I've also announced a few more shows.
There were, of course announced Ford Download last week, weren't they.
But if like that's the one thing that you've really
really got to see but you're not quite drawn to
the rest of Download, you have a couple of other
opportunity to do so, namely at kind of big old
punk all day of things that are occurring, there's one
happening at the Margate Summer Series with the Stranglers and
the buzz Cocks. There there's also a similar event hanging
It happening at the Glasgow Summer Sessions, which again the Stranglers,
the Undertones, the Buzztop, the Rizilo's, all sorts of things
going on with the kind of the I said, sort
of classic seventies style punk all dayers, which again I'll
just reiterate there are not many times you would be
going to a classic seventies punk all day and see
a band play with as much like Venom as the
current Frank Carnter fronted version of the Sex Fittle, So
worth seeing while you're at it if you want to
jump forward, like one decade I suppose in punk. The
Descendants and the Circle Jerks have all so announced a
big co headline tour for Europe and the UK across
March and April twenty twenty four. Where are the dates
in the UK, The whole load of them actually like
a full on.
Speaker 2: It's like the middle of March in the UK.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean in terms of I remember the
Descendants before if they've come and they've played like one
London show or whatever, But like there's a full you
know Bell it's a proper toy. Yeah, yeah, so negative
a pro supporting as well. That is quite a bill
if you like your eighties us.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never seen the sense or circle jokes.
Speaker 3: I think this might be the time I have to,
you know, get in on that, because I'd like to
see both and just have a fun punk time.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, I already got my ticket. I'm going to
be skipping around like a little maniac.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sounds very very interesting indeed, and Clutch all the
way over in November and December here in the UK
of twenty twenty five, I were getting some really like
early announced tours for next year, aren't we But they
have announced what I guess it's intriguing for them because Clutch,
you don't normally know what the fun they're gonna play,
and Clutch are doing a rare you know exactly what
we're gonna play at least for a majority of the
sets tour because they are doing a thirtieth anniversary tour
for their self titled album Again is coming through most
of the usual places in the UK and Europe as well.
And it's kind of interesting because you know, they didn't
do for example, this year, would have been the twentieth
of Blast Iron when they could have done something along
those lines. I guess it's kind of interesting that the
band who are so fame for like turn up and
see what we do on the day are deciding to
go like, no, this is a record that we're going
to actually do the full anniversary treatment for.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the self titled It's a vibe record,
isn't it. It's one you're gonna you know, as a
body of work. Like if people were to get you know,
stoned and have a lovely times like the.
Speaker 2: Vibes, you could.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not like praise about the idea of clutch
during an album though, Like I get why this might
be the abum they want to do it for. Yeah,
that's a thing, but just it's just it's odd to
see you considering, as you say, they're the band who
like they make up their set list on the day
and then they rock with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you might still have that with the encore,
you know. Yeah, be a surprised interesting to see what
kind of surprises they whip out once they're done with
an hour of like you know, stonery kind of vibing
around and then startlingly they turn up fucking first then
did whatever yeah right questions. As said, this is our
final hyperblass of this year, so this is actually gonna
be our final questions section of this year. If you've
got another question to ask, got right till January come
back in a very whole while to submit that. But
thank you to everybody who did submit questions for this
last round. In the that's the focused group, which is
where we always go to for these, and we have
a few here. We're going to start with Grant Lloyd,
who asks have you ever got into a band on
arguably their worst album? My example is getting into Architects
on the Here and Now. I still really like that album,
and it's only really been in the last few years
I've realized it's probably the opinion held by the minority
of fans. So I this is actually my the first
alm that came into my head in terms of like
I the example popped in my head before I'd even
read the rest of this question and seen that this
was the example give in because the first Architects song
I heard was day In Day Out, which was on
a Metal Hammer cover CD. As like the single or whatever,
it was from that album, and like I thought that,
you know, I like that song, I guess, but it
certainly it gave me the wrong impression of artists as
a whole, because I thought they were a more poppy
band at that time than I suppose they actually turned
out to be. So that was a strange thing. But again,
of that song, view it as what it is in
terms of like within their catalog or whatever, not wholly representative.
I do think it is a banger, that song, So
that was like my go to immediate example A couple
of others I suppose is you know, we were speaking
a little bit on the special about just in almost
like a generation of Slipknot fans getting into Slipknot on
either All Hope Is Gone or The Great Chapter, whichever
one you you you fall on, and a lot of
us feeling more fondly towards those records than I don't know,
the overall narrative kind of entails.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that that's probably a very good, good chat.
Speaker 3: I was sing to think one, but you said, I
was like, yeah, no, Slimmer on All Hobbies Gone?
Speaker 2: Would would like be a very like definite answer always,
Like I guess, there weren't many I could think of.
Speaker 3: Well, I was like their worst because even some of
the bands who were like on their worst album at
that time, I got into like their other stuff and
then went back and listened to what their current album was,
which was like a not very good one.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, it's a tricky basically here to ask if
there's one that came out didn't satisfy the kind of
you know, the general fan base. But because it was
the one where you arrived, I don't know, maybe if
anyone here got into a FI on Crash Love or
anything like that, you know.
Speaker 3: That was what I december on the ground it might
actually be like as an album one of the week
AFI albums might be like there is a to be
the worst AFI as an album in full, but I
go into it on them. I went to them on
that because fucking miss Murders on that album, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that was That's probably true for a
lot of people that.
Speaker 4: Were Yeah, I didn't even consider a five. I got
in on Crash Love, and I didn't consider it because
crash Love is a master It's.
Speaker 1: Not their worst album, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, you just unlocked the memory in my brain.
Similarly with Like a Metal HAMMERCD. In twenty eleven, I
bought Sounds of a Playground Fading by Inflames based on
deliver Us from hearing it from a Metal HAMMERCYD And
I don't think that's the worst in Flames album, but
it's not one of the best one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say it's one of the best ones
of that particular period. I suppose like it's better than
any of the ones that followed in the twenty tens.
I suppose that's generally, like you know, discovering Inflames. At
any point after the release of you know, Generously Come Clarity,
you're kind of getting a weaker point. Sounds the Playground
Fading was, Yeah, one of the better points to do
that with the strength of songs like deliver Us and
so on.
Speaker 4: Deliver Us is still one of my favorite Inflamed songs
just because I have that like attachment to it.
Speaker 1: It's a proper hit. I can absolutely agree there.
Speaker 4: I have three like the These all came out within
a very specific like when I was a young teenager.
I reckon if you ask most people, they'd probably put
this record in the bottom three. But I love Agony
and Irony by Alkaline Trio all right, yeah, because I
didn't realize it was like a lesser like I appreciated
one because it was in Kerrang's top twenty list, so
I bought it and calling all Skeletons and Over and
Out are still some of my favorite Alkaline Trio songs,
and listening back to it now, it does sound like
quite dated, but I you know, I was thirteen. I
really loved it, and similar to like The Crusade by Trivium,
which people love to shit on even though it's fucking.
Speaker 2: Sick, definitely not their worst album like those worse ones.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah there is. But yeah, the Crusade was my
first Trivium record because I loved the anthem we are the.
Speaker 1: Fire, and I still do. A metal fan speaks to
the end. Ben Wilma asks, have you ever listened to
an album that genuinely scared you, either due to its
lyrical content or overall sound and make you incredibly anxious?
I can't remember if we've had this question before, and
I feel that something that we may have answered before,
But my my usual kind of stock answers for this
are is, I guess in a time of like doing
this show. I will vividly remember the first time I
heard Calligular by a lingering nota which I went into
with a kind of not entirely knowing what she sounded like.
I hadn't heard or Bitches Die at the time, and
I was expecting, you know, there was this kind of
wave of like what the press briefly kind of tried
to pin the label death gospel onto of that kind
of like you know, post Chelsea Wolf, Emma Ruth rund
or AA Williams or whatever kind of like you know,
ethereal singer songwriter side of kind of heavy music that
was going on. And I was expecting something like that basically,
and then I got what is going on on Currigular?
And yeah, I mean it's in general, it was a
question of like, like, not many movies necessarily deeply scare me,
because it's kind of an experience and outside of yourself,
and it's not like a you know, your fearing for
your life, but it's more like records that in plants
so level of you know, unsettlement or disorientation or anything
like that. And in that the proper go to example
that comes to mind is one that I'm sure many
people who know the record in question will also say
this record The Drift by Scott Walker, which is a
full on like audio horror experience, and there are parts
in that. I mean, the first thing that comes to
mind is there's a point in that record where Donkey
turns up and it's like, you know the famous scene
in the Shining with the guy in the bearsuit, and
it's like the scene is moving so quickly that your
brain suddenly can't register how alien an image. It is,
Like you can't process why that guy in the bearsuit
is suddenly there, and you're kind of the disorientation again,
like trying to keep pace of what's going on kind
of outpaces your ability to recognize the image in question,
I suppose, And there are elements like that within the
album of The Drift by Scott Walker. So that's maybe
my best example.
Speaker 3: I'll definitely echo curlicular because I I thought it I
was getting in for another kind of like just like
the female singer song all the Raid, and then I
was like, oh, I'm listening to a woman just like
put all of her trauma onto me Acid Bath.
Speaker 2: When the problem like.
Speaker 3: That, that's still genuinely there are moments on that that
I was just like, I don't like what I'm listening
to again, like I don't know to go, But like
unsettled is more I'm not set to me more than
they scare me, is what I would say. And Acid
Bath genuinely made me feel deep sint to my knees,
and I was I'd be.
Speaker 2: Like, this doesn't sound that this is made by people
who are right.
Speaker 3: And then also again like we did recently, but Hatred
Mankind when I first listened to that, because again I
first did that when I was not prepared to listen
to Dragged in Sunlight and I was just told you
had to listen to this. It's the most extreme thing ever.
And again like I said, like I love, but I
was like it was a fucking like intimidating, intense kind
of like generally quite like distressing kind of first listen
Like those are the ones I would say, like they
made their mark.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I literally just heard Hatred from Mankind for the first
time tonight, and it winded me. This is such like
I feel like I don't really know how to distinguish
like scared versus unsettled versus like made me feel sick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I have.
Speaker 4: I'm such a like sensitive little boy and so much
things have affected me over the years, like I remember
hearing Pissgrave and Artificial Brain and Portal and genuinely fooling show. Yeah,
but like this question takes me back to like when
I was a young man and basically just my first
discoveries in extreme metal. Like when I was like ten,
someone someone like someone in my years older brother showed
me my Sugah I. I was so like, it scared
the shit out of me. I had no idea what
I was listening to. In similar to when I heard
her Ghost in the Fog by Credible for the first
time when I was like ten or Yeah. And it's
funny because I very quickly grew to really like Cradle
of Filth. And when I heard Cruelty and the Beast
for the first time, I went in expecting Midian, you know,
but Cruelty in the Beast being that little bit more
nasty ar did sort of shock me and made me
feel unsettled. This is like, yeah, stuff like a Ramsey
Pazuzu and oh and Al nath Rak. When I heard
an album Nathrat for the first time, I was spooked
out of my Poopers. I couldn't handle it for years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the kind of black metal lane, I guess, uh,
you know, certain Leviathan records are pretty fucking scared. Like
the last Leviathan record has some like vocal mindment particularly
that are nightmarish. London by Voice is a big one
that again did not know how the fuck to process
that for the first kind of however long of hearing
it in more metallic realms. Again, this is something I
feel like I've referenced quite a lot in the last
few months. But Natasha by Pig Destroyer is an incredible
like audio horror experience. But again this is kind of
I'm you know, because I like the things I like.
I'm more drawn to this stuff than I am kind
of repelled by it. But when I remember hearing the
Tasha and being like, oh my god, that's the kind
of sensation particularly I guess I'm describing here when I
think of these things and every one like.
Speaker 3: That for me is again one of my favorite AUMs ever.
But the first time I heard Second Son of Art
by Overbreaker, and that that final moment, genuinely again that
that scared me, that final minute and all however long
with that song I've Herd just screaming Again, that was
like genuinely quite scary and distressing the first time I
heard that, and again I knew.
Speaker 2: I knew what to expect. And that's still that fucked
me up a little bit.
Speaker 1: Of that bit.
Speaker 4: This isn't even an album, it's not even the song really,
But when I was a young man, I was terrified
of the one by Metallica music video.
Speaker 1: A lot of people from a certain age.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really got under my skin, and I like,
I shouldn't stop thinking about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more music videos have scared me than albums. That's
actually they're probably like, that's a separate discussion.
Speaker 1: Yeah it is, So we'll move on there. Tinder Tor
asks what songs from a bad, slash terrible album that
doesn't make it to band setlers these days would you
love to hear live or be a fixture on the
set list. For me, it will be the title track
from the Bullets album Temper Temper. I don't know I'll
be rushing to say make it a staple, but I
will say that's probably one of the best songs on
Temper Temper. It's not the the the the demonstration of
the very worst of what temper temper is Leach.
Speaker 4: I suppose i'd love them to play Leech to be fair.
Speaker 1: Listening, Yeah, I mean fucking Weezer playing girl. If you're wondering,
I want you to. I want you to would be
I mean'd be nice. Yeah, hell, i'd take an I'm
your daddy, you know a lot to go on.
Speaker 4: Me can be ruling me from Hurley all day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not bad off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Weezer, you could do. You could do a discussion
purely on Weezer.
Speaker 1: You could pick five different Weezer albums with the song.
Speaker 3: And again, I don't necessarily think these are bad albums,
but I know that within the fan base they're not popular.
But I saw Yellow Card the other day. We'll do
with it because there's, like, you know, Yellow Card were
very nice, and there's a bunch of like the twenty
ten Yellow Card material or that, like paper, So they
played off of that, but lift the sale their album
from a decade ago, like not lights in their fan base.
Speaker 2: But there are a half of songs that I.
Speaker 3: Think are really good that I would like to see
get put back into the set list rather than you know,
just trotting out Ocean Avenue again, which again was still amazing.
But I like there there are yellow card songs from
less popular albums I would I would love to see
make it back to the set list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean throw a dart sat anger and you'll
pick a track that when they whip whip out Dirty
Window whenever, I am like, hell, oh yeah, sure, why not.
There's quite a few here that are like songs that
actually are like songs from albums that are generally perceived
as being one of their worst. But there are certain
songs that have stuck around, like Uh Sorcerers from Opeh
for example, is like a live staple for them, even
like when Judas priests do like Prophecy from Nostrodamus that
is a massive fucking banger in the live setting. The
ultimate example I think of that as the klans Man
from Iron Maiden, where like Virtual Eleven, I don't think
I take album. I don't think I say it's my
least favorite Maiden album in part because of the strength
of what I'm about to say, but I think it
probably poll is their you know, most disliked album. But
the clans Man is when that gets put in the set,
it's a fucking treat because that's a Hall of Fame classics,
So there are quite a few examples I could think
of like that. I mean you mentioned the Crusade from
Trivium earlier. There's several that they do do from that,
Becoming the Dragon, whatever, Conflagration.
Speaker 2: From back in the set list.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean sad, Yeah, I think for me one
of the weaker. I always feel weird talking about Trivin
with you guys because I know my opinions are slightly different.
But like for me, lower end still albums I like,
but you know, down the bottom end of Trivia albums,
you have stuff like Vengeance Falls. They always play Strife
I'd take like a Bravest Storm or something back in
the set even like a deeper cut like Wake the
End Is Nigh, a song I always really liked. And
again this kind of links back into the earlier question
as well. But like I'm not gonna say it's a
you know, an incredible album, but I always have a
slightly soft spot than most people, I think for the
Corn three album, because that was was a massive track
exactly because well that was the first Corn album that
was coming out, Like as I you know, got into them,
but Oil there. There's a couple others as well, like
let the Go. Yeah, there's a couple bangers on there.
But Oil there in particular is like a proper, actual,
like as good as any Corn song they'd released like
during the two thousands, apart from maybe Here to Stay,
like a proper hit. And that's one where I'd be like, yeah,
whenever that comes out, that is a treat.
Speaker 4: This is an answer only I'm gonna give. But there's
a good Charlotte album twenty ten God cardio Ology, which
is not a good album.
Speaker 3: If you're gonna say like it's her birthday, then I'm
one hundred percent with you. That song should been every
good Charlotte set.
Speaker 4: I'll take leg it's her birthday. My actual big is
counting the days because I think that's a really lovely
like pop rock song. But like it's her birthday is
a daft to laugh.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: What. I don't think i've heard the song in question.
Maybe maybe one day I will.
Speaker 2: And you need to hear like it's her birthday.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, it's unbelievable. And then I was I was
thinking about, you know, obviously, when we do the band
specials and stuff, and we rank records at the end.
I was thinking like some of the lower ends of that,
and I've was drawn to the Amazon Chain special we
did when we came out of what is generally perceived
to be their worst album, The Devil's but Dinosaurs Here.
But we were all like like, yeah, this album is
like really good. And I was looking down that track
list and I was like, fucking voices, pretty done, lab Monkey,
Breath on a Window. I'd love to hear any of
those tracks live, and particularly I was gonna pick one
of those voices I think is the kind of forgotten
one that I think is on par with any of
the Allison Chains singles that they've done, you know, since
kind of coming back. So that's a real shout for me,
I think. So that is that question covered, and then
we're gonna end with Emi Lanio asks what gadget enhance
your enjoyment of music to the point that you feel
uncomfortable when you can't, for whatever reason use them? Now
I am going to I don't know, I you can,
you know, tell me if I'm wrong, But I would
imagine speaking for kind of a lot of us here,
this is not really how I engage with music, Like,
I don't think any of us on this podcast are
you know, we take it seriously, But what do I
think what you would describe as like extreme audio files
right where we have to have a certain you know,
kind of again series of gadgets or whatever in order
to like, you know, putting one hundred thousands of pounds
into stuff. I am of the opinion that, like, yeah,
that stuff is cool, and you know, obviously I want
my stuff to sound good, right like I want to
you know, I want I want to have a decent
viel Player whatever, not fucking Crossley. I want to have like,
you know, version of the albums that aren't fucking like
two forty p ripped off of Lime wire whatever. But
I do kind of subscribe to the idea that music
is about ultimately is about feeling and about emotion, and
if something is failing to inspire that feeling and emotion
because you've not got your kind of peak audio file
level gear, then that's a failing of the art to
a degree. And so my list of gadgets I have
is again, I've got like a semi decent but not
crazy expensive, top of the line by any means, vinyl
player that I use for home listening. I have my
good pair of headphones which I use for music, and
a shitty pair of headphones I will use for anything
kind of non musical. And that's the extent of it.
I do not have my gadgets that as this question
kind of prescribes that I am like, cannot be found
anywhere without and if I do not have it, then
music is dead to me.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, I'm like the least fussy person that
comes to I'm just like again, music me is always
on a purely emotional level. I've got like a decent
pair of headphones I use at home. Most leagues I
don't like taking milks and worry they'll like, dam was
like that. And then I have my my cheaper headphones
that I have wh I'm out about on the go.
Speaker 2: And that's kind of it. Like I'm a record player, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you say, music is about home.
Speaker 1: It makes you feel.
Speaker 4: And the other day I was listening to check Yes
Juliet by Weaver King is on the phone speaker with
my brother, and trust me, I fell to everything.
Speaker 1: You can listen to, fucking honey, it's your birthday or
whatever the fuck that song you just described like on
any film speaker you like. Yeah, so thank you for
those questions. As said, we'll be back with questions next year,
I suppose. Speaking of again, we've mentioned a couple of times.
Of course, this episode over on Patreon this week, which
is patron dot com slash that's done mettle. That is
of course where you can go and sign up and
you can get our proper deep dive of full length
special podcasts that we do, and the one that we
embarked on this week was a revival of the overview
of a Year in Rock special. We chose to do
the year two thousand and fourteen first of all, to
do a year where we all were present and have memories.
I think at some point maybe it would be fun
to go back and do really old years for people
who have requested that. But to start with, we really
want to make it slightly more personal to us, I suppose,
So we put twenty fourteen and we embarked on a
special where this first part I'm very proud of the
stupid thumbnail that me and Mark were choosing to go
on and put together. The next part is going to
be a doozy as well. But as you can see
from that image an awful lot of the big hip
and happening stuff that was going on in metal that
year particularly. We are going to carry on, We're going
to look at things like, you know, what was going
on Emo at the time, the underground metal as well,
but just as kind of like the you know, the
more mainstream end of metal that we did. In this part.
There was I still think, like more to talk about
than you would even have an average year. Like there
was so much in terms of looking at changing trends,
looking at actually, in some cases, how far we've come
in a decade. I mean that both positively and how.
Speaker 2: Far we've fallen in some regards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even in an academic sense just kind of not
even opinion based, but like how things have changed in
a decade. I mean, for example, we were looking at
like ten years of baby metal being a thing, and
all the things that someone ten years ago could never
have imagined about baby metal and their kind of longevity
to now going into then all of like again the
wild stories and mishaps and the villains and so on
that was going on. Sam was wheeling out some hot
takes on albums. I was not to put it on you,
I was wheeling out some hot takes on certain fairly
loved albums as well. Well we had one.
Speaker 2: We all had one.
Speaker 3: Everyone had one like hot takes, yeah, like like brazen
and abrasive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of fun to do over
like several albums just to really like go remember all
of this. There was so much to take in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a blast, Like I say, twenty fourteen
Metal cores number one Warrior, like in the pit there
going hard. Get to like just relive some of those
like times good and bad, like what a treat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty fourteen is a really special year for me
and still contain some of the like lots of my
favorite albums. Ever, so it's just lovely to have a
twypto memory memory Lane. Really, And if you're you know,
don't worry. Part two is gonna have hot takes. There's
a chance I might say something daft about a unique
six song.
Speaker 2: I've got your back, don't worry. We're in this together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well we can put it together the script. And
I'm actually scared to do part two because there is
quite simply so many albums.
Speaker 2: Parent print to give the script.
Speaker 3: When it was like, yeah, here's like here's all the comes,
and here's like a million extreme metalboun.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of albums from both you
know again the email and stuff as well. There's a
lot of albums that are not just good albums but
genuine classics that were released that year where I would
feel bad to kind of cut and not remark on
a whole lot of them. So I'm genuinely nervous going
into this next part about kind of like really punching
our way through all of it, but that I think
you should express just how much is going on within
this special. We've had some really like again fun feedback
from people who are also going down memory lay revisiting albums,
maybe albums that I guess I'll ask you guys, like,
if there's one album from the first part we did
that you maybe hadn't listened to in a long time
that for this you remembered, Oh, this album is really good.
What would be all kind of rediscovery be from the
first part.
Speaker 5: I'm ashamed to say it is the debut Issues album
I had so like written off that ever caring about
what even that band ha done again for various reasons,
two arms and didn't like vocalist being a twat eventually
just unceremonious break up.
Speaker 3: But going back to that first Issues album is just like,
this was it in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: This was the future of.
Speaker 3: Melcor that I was like strapped in for and I
should probably feel ashamed, but god, it's good.
Speaker 4: No, I'm the same, and you know, tell you a
little spoiler, but when you said Issues might be a
ten out of ten, that's the most relief I've ever
felt in my life.
Speaker 1: I was really relieved that there were again were various
abums that we did disagree on. I was really relieved
how much we all enjoyed the Sabatur album. That was
a nice moment.
Speaker 2: I got that one wrong at the time, and it
was a fun one to go back.
Speaker 1: But you know what bad as I remember it being
yeah and massive like some of their like power Symphonic Metal.
Piers also had some very funny and interesting fourteen. So
that is everything that went underway in that first part.
As said, we are going to be continuing with that,
moving into a whole load more of what was going
on in twenty fourteen. So if you want to get
involved and join those discussions that we have, then you
can go and do so at patroon dot com. Slash
that's not metal in support would mean the world, So
thank you to everybody who has chosen to do that.
Let's end this hyperblasts with the releases for the twenty
second of November and the first one off the bat
maybe for me. One of the last albums that I
was like, really looking forward to this year is the
new album from Opeth called The Last Will and Testament.
A lot of kind of I don't know speculation from
the moment they dropped the lead single about what the
ze Bath might sound like. I can tell you it
is wild and we can move on from their elsewhere
body Count have an album out called Mercy. I feel
that's kind of flown under the radar that BodyCount have
an album out this late in the year, but they do,
so that is available to you if you want something
a little bit more to the point than Opeth, and
maybe Ice Tea will drop a Bitch like Sam Carter
did elsewhere. Kim Deal of the Breeders is actually releasing
a solo album called Nobody Loves You More. Ocean Grow
haven't had from this band in quite a while. The
kind of Australian new metal revival band. I suppose Odd World.
They've released a record. Polar, the UK band who you
guys here like you two here both Polar fans right then, Yeah,
they've got an album called Nova. Speaking of soft spots
for you, Mark Fellowship, the UK's finest Disney power metal band.
They're releasing a record of the Skies at the Eternity
and the first one was like in or Around Your
like Top twenty albums of the year when we did it, it
was in.
Speaker 2: There that was number nineteen.
Speaker 4: I will say I saw a Fellowship a couple of
months ago and they played a few songs from this
and they're indistinguishable from other Fellowship.
Speaker 1: So if you like them metal, then there you go.
Another band whose name I hadn't seen pop up in
quite a while, but Coil Guns, the kind of noise
rock band, have got an album called odd Love. If
you want some kind of slightly proggy, I guess you
know heavy stuff, it's a band called Mr with an
accent above the U because I believe they're Icelandic or
something along that nature. Moor I have got a self
titled album out for your brutal death metal Defeated Sanity,
one of the kind of forever go to to that style,
Chronicles of Lunacy. There's also a newer band called Gutless
whoever record called High Impact Violence, which is very uh,
does I suppose in black metal? A UK black metal
band called Anti Inferno. I've got a record out called
Death Soliloquy. I've been doing a piece of work on
that album and I would say it's pretty good, So
I would recommend that one to you guys who all
enjoy your kind of you know, melodic but also very evil,
still black metal, and in that vein Panza Faust. I've
also got a record out called The Sons of Perdition
Chapter four to shadows Ion, and there's a few EPs.
Firstly Cruelty with a K this time the Japanese death
slash hardcore band who are pretty popular at the moment.
They've got ep out called Profane Usurpation. If you are
more in the kind of you know, sort of more
alternative newer modern metals style, as a band from the
UK called Malavora called Echoes, and something that I simply
have to hear is Doro herself is releasing a two
track EP tomorrow called rock and Roll exmus Party.
Speaker 2: Hell, yes, I mean it's November, Dora. We can't be
having a rock and roll exmus party in November. I'm
sorry I have to draw a line more than a.
Speaker 4: Month before, but it be a month long party.
Speaker 1: It will be, so there you go have at it.
Thank you everybody for listening here today. As said, next
up from us is going to be the continuation of
our twenty fourteen special, which you can go in hear
over at the That's Oar Metal Patreon next here on
the main feed. Next week we do have one final
reviews show for you this year where we have quite
a few yet there's a small handful of really big, important,
fucking releases in November, and so we of course have
to close off our reviewing chapter of twenty twenty four
with talking about a bunch of those and some kind
of slightly more underground picks if you haven't heard those
as well, so you can come back here for that.
I should also warn you you don't have to do
it right now. It won't be eligible until we actually
open it. But with next week's review show, we are
also going to be opening the listener Album of the
Year poll in order to have all of that wrapped
up within a couple weeks of there when we come
to doing our Albums the Year and so on. But
if you need like advanced warning and want to be
there straight away, then next week, along with that review show,
we'll be opened up the Album of the Year poll
as well, So yeah, we'll see you there for all
of that. Get excited, get geared up, and thank you
again for being here. So there you go, Bye bye.