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<v Speaker 1>This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI

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<v Speaker 1>A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show on

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for swampwatch.

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<v Speaker 3>Swamp is horrible.

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<v Speaker 4>The government doesn't work. Man, make this like a reality

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<v Speaker 4>TV show.

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<v Speaker 2>A bad Noos.

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<v Speaker 4>Always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington, d C. Hey, Joey,

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<v Speaker 4>a town.

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<v Speaker 3>All too clearly built on a swamp and in so

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<v Speaker 3>many ways still a swamp.

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<v Speaker 2>A watch of malarkey.

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<v Speaker 4>What he said, drained the swamp.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, Oh, that's so, you know the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh oh, I just got an alert on my phone

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<v Speaker 1>the World Health Organization declaring m pops a global health emergency.

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<v Speaker 2>So we already did that.

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<v Speaker 1>They have again declared m pos an internal international health

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<v Speaker 1>emergency in response to a growing outbreak in Africa.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it never really went away, I mean it kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>We tamped it down here in the United States by

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<v Speaker 3>changing the name of it.

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<v Speaker 1>The declaration comes after suspected and confirmed cases in Africa

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<v Speaker 1>exceeded fifteen thousand this year, exceeding the toll in all

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<v Speaker 1>of last year.

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<v Speaker 4>New highs in the Congo.

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<v Speaker 3>The big story that came out of DC this morning

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<v Speaker 3>was that price hikes slowed more than expected into line

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time in more than three years. The

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<v Speaker 3>consumer price index landed just below three percent. It was

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<v Speaker 3>at two point nine percent for the twelve months that

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<v Speaker 3>ended in July. That was slowing down a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>from three percent in June. Bureau of Labor Statistics released

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<v Speaker 3>this report. This now is going to pave the way,

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<v Speaker 3>they say, for the Fed Reserve to cut rates next

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<v Speaker 3>month after this battle with inflation that sent rates to

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty three year high. Right now, there is signs

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<v Speaker 3>of economic stress, as they say, because inflation does appear

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<v Speaker 3>under control a bit, and the Fed could reduce some

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<v Speaker 3>borrowing costs to try to get the job growth booming again,

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<v Speaker 3>although we're still at a pretty pretty significantly great unemployment

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<v Speaker 3>rate here in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>A couple of polls to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you think this is something that Kamalas should get

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<v Speaker 1>out and talk to reporters about inflation the economy.

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<v Speaker 3>She's has a big speech tomorrow, not tomorrow Friday speech

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<v Speaker 3>though that's the word, right, and not a give and take,

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<v Speaker 3>not a Q and A or anything like that. Former

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<v Speaker 3>President Trump supposedly has one on the economy today. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to start national and we'll go local. But

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<v Speaker 3>Vice President Harris is leading or tied with former President

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<v Speaker 3>Trump in six of seven battleground states as of right now.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the Cook Political Report Swing State Project that

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<v Speaker 3>shows that Harris has an overall one point lead, well

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<v Speaker 3>within the margin of error. Keep that in mind over

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<v Speaker 3>Trump across battleground states Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 3>and Wisconsin. Across the seventh battleground state, she has forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight percent support.

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<v Speaker 2>Trump had forty seven percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Five percent of respondent said that they were either undecided

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<v Speaker 4>Now there is I'm sorry, no you go oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna dovetail the survey from the AP

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<v Speaker 1>and RK Research Center that found Vice President Harris as honest,

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<v Speaker 1>someone who is disciplined as opposed to President Trump. That

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<v Speaker 1>nearly half of Americans would describe her as committed to

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<v Speaker 1>democracy and disciplined, compared to about thirty percent for Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty percent said the same for honest, compared to just

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<v Speaker 1>twenty five percent for the former president.

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<v Speaker 4>That that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Remarkable to me that anybody labels any politician using that

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<v Speaker 1>word honest. Yeah, you don't rise to levels like this

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<v Speaker 1>by being honest with people.

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<v Speaker 3>There's also so we mentioned this earlier when we were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this poll, specifically honesty and what it means

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<v Speaker 3>for different people. For Kamala Harris, that is the thing

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<v Speaker 3>that people are excited about right now is that she

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<v Speaker 3>brings joy, she brings optimism, she brings whichever positive adjective

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<v Speaker 3>you want to bring.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what she's working on right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know anybody who's like, she's got foreign policy nailed,

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<v Speaker 3>or she has beautiful ideas on what to do with

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<v Speaker 1>Sims'm and and enjoy. Those are all wonderful things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a fun movie to watch, but you need substance, and

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<v Speaker 1>if she's not putting her substance on display, then we

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<v Speaker 1>are not doing our jobs as reporters in the media.

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<v Speaker 3>Right And the criticism that we got when we talked

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<v Speaker 3>about in the first hour was well, Trump never talks

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<v Speaker 3>about policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yes he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Now there's different reasons why they don't, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>both of them should. He doesn't because he can't. He

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<v Speaker 3>has a knee jerk reaction. He can't continue to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about policy without getting personal digs in. That's his personality,

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<v Speaker 3>that's who he is. She could talk policy but doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>But can she talk policy? That's the big question.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, she could choose to talk policy.

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<v Speaker 1>Are we at a place in this country where the

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<v Speaker 1>two leading candidates for president don't need to bother with

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<v Speaker 1>details that they just.

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<v Speaker 4>Have to be the cheerleader?

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<v Speaker 1>And then who's running the country? Which is a fun

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<v Speaker 1>question that I've had in my mind since Biden turned

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<v Speaker 1>up as weekend at Bernie's.

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<v Speaker 3>Because the vast majority of voters, I think it's safe

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<v Speaker 3>to say the vast majority of voters don't do any

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<v Speaker 3>of their own homework on who they're going to vote for,

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<v Speaker 3>and a lot of them, I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 3>a majority, but a lot of them will vote simply

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<v Speaker 3>on their feelings.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like Donald Trump is mean. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris is wrong for the country. I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump doesn't know what he's doing for them. Nobody

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<v Speaker 3>does their homework, nobody. It's all about optics. They're absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she's showing optimism and he's showing strength and it's

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<v Speaker 1>whatever one you want.

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<v Speaker 3>Or they do this, they say to their phone, Hey, TikTok,

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<v Speaker 3>who should I vote for? And then TikTok blasts them

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<v Speaker 3>with half thought, halfwits, who then try to use their

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<v Speaker 3>feelings about Kamala Harris or Donald Trump and convince you

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<v Speaker 3>that their feelings are right because they did their homework allegedly.

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<v Speaker 4>How much time have you been spending on TikTok?

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<v Speaker 2>Not enough?

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<v Speaker 4>Or have the Chinese moved into your home?

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<v Speaker 2>They've moved into my head.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey there was an article and my heart. You're going

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<v Speaker 1>through something and I'm not going to deal with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like it when you look away.

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<v Speaker 3>Bottom of the hour, we're going to get into story

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<v Speaker 3>that's been kind of bubbling for the last couple of days.

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<v Speaker 3>It was how the FBI yesterday we talked about it

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<v Speaker 3>in this context, the FBI is investigating whether Iranians were

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<v Speaker 3>able to hack into or steal information from presidential campaigns.

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<v Speaker 3>The important thing also is, or an important aspect of

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<v Speaker 3>that story, is the news organizations who got the information

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<v Speaker 3>did not publish it, did not go forward with some

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<v Speaker 3>of that information. So we'll talk about what the decision

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<v Speaker 3>process is for those news agencies eleven thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>That Algerian Olympic boxing gold medalist Amani Hahalif is naming

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<v Speaker 1>Elon Musk and JK Rowling in a legal complaint filed

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<v Speaker 1>the lawsuit in France over online harassment she says she

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<v Speaker 1>faced during the Olympics. Her attorney says that former President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is also part of the investigation. Lawsuit filed against

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<v Speaker 1>X accuses Musk and Ralling of committing acts of aggravated

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<v Speaker 1>cyber harassment against her false claims that she was transgender.

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<v Speaker 3>Back in swamp Watch, there were a couple of different

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<v Speaker 3>versions of this story that came up today that I

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<v Speaker 3>thought was interesting. A former Trump spokeswoman, a woman named

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<v Speaker 3>Sarah Matthews, says that Donald Trump has been lighting up

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<v Speaker 3>his campaign staffers. Former President's meltdown comes from a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of staffers who worked with him. They don't currently but

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<v Speaker 3>that they say they're still in contact with some of

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<v Speaker 3>the people who work in the campaign. Sarah Matthews says, quote,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he feels this election slipping away from him,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's where you're beginning to see him spiral. Republicans

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<v Speaker 3>and top donors are worried about his strategy as he's

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<v Speaker 3>launching these personal attacks and obsesses over her personality instead

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<v Speaker 3>of sticking to issues like the border, the economy, and

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<v Speaker 3>the crime. In fact, scaramog Anthony Scaramucci says he's still

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<v Speaker 3>in close ties with some of the people in the

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<v Speaker 3>inner circle and said that Trump isn't barnstorming across the

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<v Speaker 3>swing states as expected because he's He's due to speak

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<v Speaker 3>some more battleground states next week. But Scaramucci said he

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<v Speaker 3>picked Vance. He knows Vance was a terrible, terrible pick,

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<v Speaker 3>about picking Vance.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, it seemed like a rash decision because they

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<v Speaker 1>were all high on the assassination attempt and they could

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<v Speaker 4>Just picked their friend.

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<v Speaker 1>And then that kind of faded, that that high of

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<v Speaker 1>the assassination attempt kind of faded, and now you're kind

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<v Speaker 3>Scaramooch says this is very typical behavior from the former president.

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<v Speaker 3>When things go awry, he starts firing people. So she says,

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<v Speaker 3>expect him to start firing some people in the campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>He sounded pissed off when he had that press availability

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<v Speaker 1>that went on for ninety minutes or whatever at mar

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<v Speaker 1>A Lago. The way he starts arted it, he sounded

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<v Speaker 1>out of breath, pissed off, like he was fuming. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably had just yelled at a bunch of people, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what came across as all right, So he continues

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<v Speaker 1>to trot out Hannibal Lecter, right. He talked about Hannibal

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<v Speaker 1>Lecter at a rally in Atlanta at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>the month. They hate it when I use doctor Hannibal Lecter,

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<v Speaker 1>the great, late Great Hannibal Lecter, the late great apparent

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<v Speaker 1>reference to the media. They hate it when I do this.

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<v Speaker 1>At the RNC, he asked, has anyone seen silence of

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<v Speaker 1>the lambs? The late great Hannibal Lecter. He'd love to

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<v Speaker 1>have you for dinner. He usually mentions him when he's

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<v Speaker 1>talking about immigration to say that everyone who's crossing the

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<v Speaker 1>border is mentally ill, although there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>proof of that, but he's consistent.

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<v Speaker 4>In mentioning Hannibal Lecter.

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<v Speaker 1>And they say in this article in the Washington Post,

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<v Speaker 1>it's classic, and we all know people like this that

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<v Speaker 1>go back to references from their glory days when they

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<v Speaker 1>rose to fame, when he he achieved celebrity status. They

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<v Speaker 1>call him the cryptkeeper of the nineteen eighties. It's when

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<v Speaker 1>Trump ruled New York City clubs and tabloids. First Grace

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<v Speaker 1>the cover of Time magazine. His rally playlists include Ymca

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<v Speaker 1>from seventy eight, Gloria from eighty two. The fit of

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<v Speaker 1>his suits, the length of his ties scream the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>It's why he likes that gold interior design as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump Tower completed in eighty three. That was what his

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<v Speaker 1>biographer has said, that he's a cryptkeeper for the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a funny line that said.

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<v Speaker 3>Basically, every time he opens the door, people spill out

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<v Speaker 3>from the eighties. Roger Stone, Rudy Giuliani fashion from the eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>Monochrome suits are sorry, monochrome tie suits that are made

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<v Speaker 3>in two or three different colors. His office decre in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>is still the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 1>None of his tastes have been updated in decades. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>Silence of the Lambs coming out in nineteen eighty nine.

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<v Speaker 1>His book came out in eighty seven. But it's so true,

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<v Speaker 1>are frozen in a certain decade. Okay, well every the

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<v Speaker 4>I like that. That's good.

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<v Speaker 1>More proof that we as a people are circling the drain.

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<v Speaker 1>The famous pretzel shop Anti Ann's is debuting its first

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<v Speaker 1>ever perfume, inspired by the brand's signature aroma. Yes, the

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<v Speaker 1>That is what people will be spraying themselves with. It's

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<v Speaker 2>It's clever.

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<v Speaker 4>It's clever, that is, it's clever.

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<v Speaker 1>Fans have gotten early access to the scent at a

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<v Speaker 4>It's clever, it's ridiculous. Who wants to smell like a

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<v Speaker 4>hot pretzel? Cinnamon?

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<v Speaker 2>Hot pre You want to smell raise in my hand?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, well you know that I'll have it to

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<v Speaker 2>Can give me a present in Chicago?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Great, no, because if you smell like a hot pretzel,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna want one.

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<v Speaker 4>See that's what I'm saying, like I need the pretzel.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, fine, Garan, Shannon, It's Meagan. I was the one

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<v Speaker 5>who called earlier about Steve and Shannon, you were asking

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<v Speaker 5>about the birds.

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<v Speaker 4>I have two.

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<v Speaker 5>Parakeets and a dog, so they that's what you were hearing.

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<v Speaker 5>They like to sing in the morning. They look up

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<v Speaker 5>the window and sing with the other birds. They're very cute.

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<v Speaker 5>And yes, I'm a Steve Gregory fan. And I'm the

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<v Speaker 5>one who had asked previously if he could do read

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<v Speaker 5>the bedtime stories. Oh all right, guys, I have.

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<v Speaker 4>A great day.

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<v Speaker 1>She got a little flustered there at the end when

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<v Speaker 1>she started thinking about Steve just started reading a bedtime story.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, well, once upon a time. I'm Steve Gregory.

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<v Speaker 4>Sorry, good morning, Good morning.

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<v Speaker 6>She and James and Torrance, my wife and son and

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<v Speaker 6>a pretty goosized click down there. They didn't feel that one,

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<v Speaker 6>Take care of a good day till Deborah see her

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<v Speaker 6>on Instagram. Went from home, Oh Playground guys, take care.

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<v Speaker 1>Deborah has a nice Instagram profile. If you're if you

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<v Speaker 1>haven't followed her, you got to check it out. It's

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not the homeless stuff you get with us. Do

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<v Speaker 4>Sure? Name calling for one thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Creator of TV's Fargo, Noah Howley won this mystery award

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<v Speaker 2>Who is Edgar Allan poem?

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<v Speaker 4>What is the Edgar? Is the answer, not the poet.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the name of the award.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, Why are the people laughing because you're making

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<v Speaker 3>fun of me?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I didn't you said it so condescendingly? Did I?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm really sorry, hurts. I don't want to come

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<v Speaker 1>across condescending at all.

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<v Speaker 3>At least three news outlets your decision against.

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<v Speaker 4>At least just said that word.

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<v Speaker 3>At least three news outlets were leaked confidential material from

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<v Speaker 3>inside the Trump campaign. Politico, The New York Times, and

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<v Speaker 3>The Washington Post have all written stories in the last

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<v Speaker 3>week or two about this potential leak and about where

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<v Speaker 3>it may have come from.

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<v Speaker 2>We talked yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>The FBI I said to be investigating as to whether

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<v Speaker 3>or not it originated from this fishing attack, originated from Iran.

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<v Speaker 3>This decision to not publish what's inside. They've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>the the fact that they received the information but that

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<v Speaker 4>Very different from twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>If you remember, it was the Russians that hacked into

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<v Speaker 3>Hillary Clinton's campaign manager John Podesta's email, and then Wiki

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<v Speaker 3>Leaks published a bunch of those emails. Mainstream news organizations

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<v Speaker 3>picked them up and covered them. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>the argument then was, hey, we didn't publish it, We're

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<v Speaker 3>just reporting on the fact that they're out there, because

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<v Speaker 3>WikiLeaks obviously doesn't have the same footprint today that it

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<v Speaker 3>did eight years ago. Politico wrote over the weekend about

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<v Speaker 3>getting emails starting July twenty second from a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>identified himself as Robert. It included a two hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>seventy one page campaign document about now vice presidential candidate

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<v Speaker 3>JD Vance and a partial vetting report on Senator Marco Rubio,

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<v Speaker 3>who was one of the potential VP picks. Both Politico

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<v Speaker 3>and The Washington Post said that they have independently confirmed

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<v Speaker 3>with people in the campaign that those in fact were

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<v Speaker 3>authentic documents.

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<v Speaker 2>They said it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Unclear who provided the material. Politico says it doesn't know

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<v Speaker 3>who Robert is and that when it spoke to the

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<v Speaker 3>supposed leaguer, he said, I suggest you don't be curious

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<v Speaker 3>about where I got them from. Now, the Trump campaign

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<v Speaker 3>seems pretty convinced that it was in fact Iran that

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<v Speaker 3>was behind it, although they don't have any evidence for that.

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<v Speaker 3>It did come a day after Microsoft report reported that

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<v Speaker 3>there had been an effort by military intelligence in Iran

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<v Speaker 3>to compromise the email account of a former senior advisor

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<v Speaker 3>to the campaign, and again, the FBI released a statement

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<v Speaker 3>so they said that this may have been somewhat of

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<v Speaker 3>a lesson. Trump and his team encouraged the coverage of

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<v Speaker 3>the wikileague's documents that came out. A BBC story talked

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<v Speaker 3>about the eighteen revelations that came out. Vox wrote about

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<v Speaker 3>John Pedesta's advice for making a superb Risottee.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got good vacation news for you. North Korea will

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<v Speaker 1>reopen limited international tourism by the end of the year.

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<v Speaker 4>I've never been to North Korea not yet.

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<v Speaker 1>The announcement from the isolated communist country comes as South

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<v Speaker 1>Korea and the US whole joint military exercises next week

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<v Speaker 1>in a show of force as North Korea rams.

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<v Speaker 4>Up its nuclear threats. Why wouldn't you want to go?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think the tourism slogan is for North Korea?

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<v Speaker 2>Mind your damn business.

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<v Speaker 1>American passports are not valid to travel to North Korea

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<v Speaker 1>unless specially validated. The US classifies North Korean travel as

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<v Speaker 1>a Level four risk, quoting here, do not travel.

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<v Speaker 2>I have some breaking Stonehenge news.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>They are one step closer to figuring out how it

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<v Speaker 3>was created. A new study shows that the stone that's

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<v Speaker 3>of northeast Scotland. Gosh not clear how they got it there,

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<v Speaker 3>sixteen foot slab of stone. They carried it by boat

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<v Speaker 3>or through land. It was the Aliens, about four hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and sixty miles. It traveled for more than a century.

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<v Speaker 3>They said they believed that it had come from Wales,

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<v Speaker 3>but they figured out no. In fact, it was the

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<v Speaker 3>north tip of northeast Scotland. It was once the home

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<v Speaker 3>of that piece of stone.

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<v Speaker 4>Fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Did I sell it though? No? You want me to try

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<v Speaker 4>Let me try it again. That's fascinating better.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you still sound a little stone though.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. Yeah, a good one, very stone. Sob all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is a serious case in Texas that has

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<v Speaker 3>to do with the parents of a school shooter. And

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<v Speaker 3>I almost said convicted school shooter, but in fact, Demetrios Pigwortz,

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<v Speaker 3>mentally incompetent to stand trial.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a civil trial taking place, and the

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<v Speaker 1>defendants are the parents of this guy, seventeen year old,

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<v Speaker 3>It's the civil trial because in Texas, criminal charges could

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<v Speaker 3>have been brought against a parent if a child who

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<v Speaker 3>is sixteen or younger gains access to a loaded gun

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<v Speaker 3>that was not properly stored. But he was seventeen at

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<v Speaker 3>the parents Demetrius Pogortus's parents were negligent in how they

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<v Speaker 3>stored their dozen rifles and shotguns and handgun in their

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<v Speaker 1>So for two weeks now the parents have sat in

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<v Speaker 1>children who were killed in the massacre. A lawyer for

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<v Speaker 1>the plaintiffs, Clint maguire, said in his opening statement, there

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<v Speaker 1>were red flags if they did not know that he

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<v Speaker 1>was depressed, like they're claiming, it's because they failed in

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<v Speaker 1>their job as parents and they should have known. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a dangerous statement to make on its face

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<v Speaker 1>because it is so arbitrary when you think about parenting

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<v Speaker 1>a parent, and what does that mean, right, Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not black or white. Saying they should have known doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean that they knew. And if they knew, then yes

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<v Speaker 1>they should have acted. But if you can't pinpoint if

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<v Speaker 3>It also, I think works in the parents' favor that

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<v Speaker 3>the kid was determined incompetent to stand trial. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>that they they are not doctors, clearly. Now, you could

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<v Speaker 3>argue that any parent should be able to see the

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<v Speaker 3>signs of obvious distress, perhaps in their own kids.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's also so common in seventeen year old boys, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Perennially, they asked the father if he was aware of

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<v Speaker 3>things that his kid was buying online, like ammunition. They

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<v Speaker 3>said he didn't know about the dark turn in his

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know anything about it.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, your son went through a death metal phase.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't know that his son appeared to be fascinated

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<v Speaker 3>by school shootings, nor that his son had seen disturbing

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<v Speaker 3>journal entries on his computer, some that described an abusive

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<v Speaker 3>home life. He did testify that his son had been

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<v Speaker 3>was not aware of his son's increasing absences during his

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<v Speaker 3>junior year, nor the declining grades that began to appear

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<v Speaker 3>on his report card. Now, the mom did contact the

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<v Speaker 3>school after her son was accused of plagiarism on a

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<v Speaker 3>and his sister about mental health and school shootings, particularly

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<v Speaker 3>after the shooting at Marjorie Stoneman Douglas High School in Florida,

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<v Speaker 3>which took place in early twenty eighteen. But she said

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<v Speaker 3>that Mom said that the troubles were hidden. Mom had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea what was going on in her son's mind,

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<v Speaker 3>said the attorney. He was deeply disturbed and deeply suffering.

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<v Speaker 3>But he didn't tell anybody now because again, there's been

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<v Speaker 3>no criminal trial against the gunman. He was determined, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, mentally incompetent to stand trial. He's still in

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<v Speaker 3>a state hospital for mental treatment. A civil trial has

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<v Speaker 3>also represented the first effort for any sort of accountability

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<v Speaker 3>in the six years since that shooting took place, which is.

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<v Speaker 2>A hard thing for the jury to deal with.

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<v Speaker 4>Here, how did we miss this one? Do you remember this?

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<v Speaker 2>I vaguely remember the shooting, yes, they said.

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<v Speaker 1>In a crowded history of mass shootings in recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>the Santa Fe Mascar has often been overlooked, clipsed by

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<v Speaker 1>subsequent tragedies and the desire among many in the community

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<v Speaker 1>south of Houston to move on.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you have any good news?

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<v Speaker 2>Come ahead, boy, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna find something good for us. We deserve something

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<v Speaker 1>a little nice. Maybe I'll find something about butter.

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<v Speaker 2>What about a positive message?

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<v Speaker 4>What Gary and.

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon just wanted to say?

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<v Speaker 4>I think your guys show is great.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I don't know why I was cut off there.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he said something negative after that.

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<v Speaker 1>The earliest evidence of butter production dates back to ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Mesopotamia around twenty five hundred BC.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think, okay, that's that's going to kiss

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<v Speaker 1>me off? So Jesus probably tasted butter if he was lucky.

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<v Speaker 4>Of course, it may have originated by accident.

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<v Speaker 1>Butter such as fascinating, such as when chilled milk, which,

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<v Speaker 1>oh god, that's going.

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<v Speaker 4>To really bother me a lot, Jacob a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fascinating. Go get my gun his face less than lethal,

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<v Speaker 1>non lethal. Right, you just want to sting them a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to give them a little stinger. That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that the earliest butter was made from

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<v Speaker 1>the milk of sheep, goats and yak and not cows.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so many different variations of you saying that's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Devor Mark is going to have an update right after this.

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<v Speaker 4>That's fascinating. You've been listening to The Gary and Shannon Show.

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