Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to episode fifty six of Game
Speaker 1: Spot after Dark, Game Sports Official after Dark Podcast. That's
Speaker 1: a very circular definition, but you know it's me on
Speaker 1: the rains today push Jake out for the week, so
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a chaotic episode. I'm Lucy James joining
Speaker 1: me this week. We've got John nigsideke Hello with a
Speaker 1: very crisp new mic. I'm very excited about it because
Speaker 1: I haven't set mine up yet. I just have the
Speaker 1: crappy old one Tomorrowhos saying.
Speaker 2: Hi, Old Mike also yeah, but your mic is good.
Speaker 3: And Kelly Plaguey Hi, also an old Mike, but I
Speaker 3: figured out her music correctly.
Speaker 1: It's been like this week has felt very strange because
Speaker 1: when we're putting the running order together, at least for
Speaker 1: the topics to talk about, they are the same was
Speaker 1: last week, but this time we have actual stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about, like in terms of DC fandom, Black Ops,
Speaker 1: Cold War. So it's gonna be It's been a big
Speaker 1: week already in Games Come for context, we're recording this
Speaker 1: on Wednesday. Games Come hasn't happened yet, so we're in
Speaker 1: a we're in a world without pork knuckle and without
Speaker 1: tiny German beers or game announcements at the Achillies. So
Speaker 1: if we're not talking about I don't know, you can order,
Speaker 1: you can pre you can register to pre order PS
Speaker 1: five now, but we don't know when it's out. So
Speaker 1: if they announce a PS five, really stay and we're
Speaker 1: not talking about it here. That's why. But let's get
Speaker 1: into what we've been playing. CALLI and when come Chief first.
Speaker 3: All right, well, Tomorre, we'll be really happy to hear. Well,
Speaker 3: I've already told him, but a surprised Tom that I've
Speaker 3: begun blood Born, my blood born. Uh my, my character's
Speaker 3: name is Strawberry because that's what I was eating when
Speaker 3: I created her.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, And.
Speaker 3: I found that like like I was like, okay, I
Speaker 3: I know on paper when I'm supposed to do. And
Speaker 3: then the first area has so many enemies that I
Speaker 3: was just like, I don't know, I don't know if
Speaker 3: I'm mentally ready for this, Like I don't know, but
Speaker 3: I got I got through it.
Speaker 2: What it wants you to think.
Speaker 1: But really it's just it's you. Just The thing I
Speaker 1: love about that first area is it's so overwhelming at
Speaker 1: the very beginning and then the more you kind of
Speaker 1: go through it, you just you learn it and it
Speaker 1: just and it sets you up for the rest of
Speaker 1: the game where it's like, oh, it's going to present
Speaker 1: me with things that are immediately very intense and scary,
Speaker 1: and then it gives you the confidence to tackle them.
Speaker 2: It's very, very exciting for you. It's basically that bit
Speaker 2: in Simpsons where is the references that I can sing,
Speaker 2: but it's like escalating. So you go off and you're like,
Speaker 2: I can sink, I can sing, and then by the
Speaker 2: halfway when you're like, I can.
Speaker 3: Except I would certainly hope that's where I get with it.
Speaker 3: I've been I started playing at like the height of
Speaker 3: the heat wave too and with the fires, so I
Speaker 3: had to like stop a lot because I was getting
Speaker 3: way too like literally and figuratively heated playing. So it's
Speaker 3: cooled down. We still can't really open our windows too much,
Speaker 3: but it's cooled down at least, so I'm ready. I'm
Speaker 3: ready to give it another shot. But uh yeah, I
Speaker 3: I've The hardest thing for me was the controls, honestly,
Speaker 3: because I think the last game I played on PS
Speaker 3: four was the last of US Part two. So because
Speaker 3: I haven't started Ghost of Sushimi yet. I'm sorry, but
Speaker 3: I had really like I kept accidentally throwing molotovs, having
Speaker 3: a really hard time with the control scheme and blob on.
Speaker 3: But but I'm I'm excited. I I also like, I
Speaker 3: want to finish Secro, but I kind of want to
Speaker 3: do Bloodborne first because I feel like like I don't
Speaker 3: want to cross those two. I want to keep them
Speaker 3: a little bit.
Speaker 2: That room, I was.
Speaker 1: Gonna say, because Scro will get you used to not
Speaker 1: having a stamina bar and then Bloodborne will be like,
Speaker 1: oh no, you to manage.
Speaker 3: That ship that was that was also very difficult. So yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm I'm enjoying that journey. And I'm also I've been
Speaker 3: watching The Simpsons from the beginning.
Speaker 2: Before you move on? What weapon did you pick up?
Speaker 2: The start?
Speaker 3: The one that.
Speaker 2: Opens Okay, okay, okay, what it's called?
Speaker 1: Wait? They all kind of.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 2: It's been described as the reu effect where it's on
Speaker 2: the cover, so that's why everyone picks it.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 3: I mean I was just like that one looks cool.
Speaker 3: Oh when I got the the I got a better outfit.
Speaker 1: Would you get to get a hunted?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So how do you feel about the little messengers in
Speaker 2: the bath. Have you met them yet?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hang on, where did you get up to?
Speaker 3: I have? I have seen a boss, but I ran
Speaker 3: away using the item that lets okay my blood.
Speaker 2: Fine. Next time you're in the in the Hunter's Dream,
Speaker 2: just go to the little bath area that's on your
Speaker 2: left immediately and you'll see the little like yeah, that
Speaker 2: little lad. Yeah, yeah, I love this.
Speaker 3: My favorite thing about the game so far as the
Speaker 3: little the little guys the floor, your little notes, I
Speaker 3: love love them some hilarious.
Speaker 4: No can't you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can get a top hat for mine all
Speaker 2: wearing top hats, and you can get like there's like
Speaker 2: maybe three or four things, but they're very cute. And
Speaker 2: if you like, get the Pigma figures come with those
Speaker 2: little guys as well, which is what I was like.
Speaker 2: They're very cute. Yeah, all around, Bloodborn is a very
Speaker 2: cute game.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Yeah. I've also been watching The Simpsons from the
Speaker 3: beginning and it uh just because and it's amazing how well.
Speaker 1: I've been doing that.
Speaker 4: Actually, those jokes, it's I don't know what caused it,
Speaker 4: just like all of a sudden one day we're like,
Speaker 4: let's just watch Simpsons.
Speaker 3: You know, I was like kind of in a mood,
Speaker 3: and I've been on Talking Simpsons a couple of times,
Speaker 3: and one of the episodes that I did was in actually,
Speaker 3: I think a couple of them were like early episodes,
Speaker 3: so I got to one that I've already done. But
Speaker 3: watching them in sequence is like, I'm just like some
Speaker 3: of those jokes, I like just can't believe that they
Speaker 3: happened in nineteen eighty nine, nineteen ninety, right, and they're
Speaker 3: still funny. I know, I'm not the first person to
Speaker 3: say this. I just have been thinking about it a lot.
Speaker 2: It's wild how those jokes from nineteen eighty nine are
Speaker 2: still relevant today. In George Oil's nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 4: Oh go ahead, I was just gonna say, like, you
Speaker 4: kind of forget, like I've I've literally existed, like the
Speaker 4: Simpsons has existed longer than I've been alive, you know,
Speaker 4: Like so like you kind of forget You're so used
Speaker 4: to modern Simpsons and what it's like, and it's very
Speaker 4: like pop culture heavy and like celebrity cameos and all
Speaker 4: that stuff, and you kind of forget how like incredibly cynical,
Speaker 4: like o G. Simpsons is and like how it's just
Speaker 4: like like, uh, like Homer and like the Simpsons are
Speaker 4: like the asshole family that like would have been the
Speaker 4: antagonist and like the average sitcom in Flanders would have
Speaker 4: been like the protagonist. And they've like completely flipped it,
Speaker 4: and it's just like it still works. It still works
Speaker 4: so well, and it's so it's so funny, like, oh
Speaker 4: my god.
Speaker 2: Any there's it Modern Simpsons is it still is?
Speaker 1: Still the last episode. The last episode of the Simpsons
Speaker 1: I saw was I think four hundred, I want to say,
Speaker 1: or three hundred where Bart moved out and Tony Hawk
Speaker 1: was in it. That's the only one I remember.
Speaker 3: Oh I remember that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the last episode of Simpsons.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Tony Hawk. Really that was the last episode of
Speaker 3: the Simpsons you saw.
Speaker 1: I feel like anything since.
Speaker 3: I've watched beyond that, but they're not as memorable, you know.
Speaker 4: No, I feel like the characters just like Mo. He
Speaker 4: he's like wears like a nice shirt in like modern Simpsons,
Speaker 4: and he's like goes over to them for he's like
Speaker 4: a family friend. And I'm like, no, Mo's like the
Speaker 4: sleazy bar owner. He's in love with Midge, Yeah, and
Speaker 4: calls him and he threatens to murder him.
Speaker 3: Definitely.
Speaker 2: Oh sorry, I was gonna say that that episode that
Speaker 2: Lucy is mentioning is the Simpsons S fourteen e eleven
Speaker 2: dot xvid dot eazy TV. So season fourteen, episode eleven, Wait,
Speaker 2: so hang on.
Speaker 1: So when what are they up to? Now? What? Season
Speaker 1: twenty two?
Speaker 3: Thirty thirty thirty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, twenty was around when the movie came out. I
Speaker 4: want to say, oh, jez.
Speaker 2: I think that's the last major Simpsons thing that I watched.
Speaker 2: The movie after that was Goodbye, Old Friend.
Speaker 3: I mean, I will extend like the Simpsons episodes. I
Speaker 3: will watch like through some seasons that people can like,
Speaker 3: like I think most like if you want to be like,
Speaker 3: oh like push up glasses like a big sentence four
Speaker 3: to nine. But I will watch like through the early
Speaker 3: teens and like have a good time just because it.
Speaker 3: I mean, like John Luke said, that shows older than
Speaker 3: I am, so like there's a it has this grace
Speaker 3: period for me. We're still nostalgic. But I yeah, I
Speaker 3: haven't watched it this year.
Speaker 2: This is clearly not the right place to do this,
Speaker 2: but like, did it just run out of things to
Speaker 2: say or did it like did the characters become rubbish
Speaker 2: or or did they what happened?
Speaker 4: I think that well, for there's a really good Super
Speaker 4: eight Past World video where he kind of like breaks
Speaker 4: it down. But I think I think the big thing
Speaker 4: that he kind of brought up was, like I mean
Speaker 4: most of the original staff just left by like season
Speaker 4: like nine. I think there's like a massive exodus and
Speaker 4: like all but like Conan O'Brien, yeah, all but two
Speaker 4: of the writers. So it's like it's just kind of
Speaker 4: like the priorities are different. Like the people who who
Speaker 4: created it, who had like that specific vision for it
Speaker 4: to be this like biting satire, were like not there anymore,
Speaker 4: you know, to keep that going.
Speaker 3: And you also have like those early episodes. The context
Speaker 3: is so different because, like you said, at the time,
Speaker 3: Flanders would have been the protagonist in any other sitcom
Speaker 3: on the air. Probably you have like like at the time,
Speaker 3: people were really upset about Bart as a character, like
Speaker 3: they just knew the show is like the show with
Speaker 3: the foul mouth child. Celebrities that were on the show
Speaker 3: were like too embarrassed to have their names in the
Speaker 3: credit made like a dig at the Simpsons.
Speaker 1: Wow, So like, uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna talk about Ronald regularly. But but yeah,
Speaker 3: like I think there's the changing landscape to I think
Speaker 3: there it's hard. I feel like it's hard to do
Speaker 3: satire in a post like Family Guy, South Park, the
Speaker 3: attitude towards what's.
Speaker 4: Different, Like I I in the way that like Simpsons
Speaker 4: was like the animated sitcom for like the ninety I
Speaker 4: would say like the two thousands was more like a
Speaker 4: Bob's Burger's or something, just a very different feel and
Speaker 4: kind of like capturing more a different culture though, like
Speaker 4: the Simpsons was created for the nineties.
Speaker 2: So they are currently in season thirty two, no episode number.
Speaker 2: October twenty fifth, I believe was the last episode Treehouse
Speaker 2: of Horror Roman numerals that I won't to even begin
Speaker 2: to try and guess what that is. How long do
Speaker 2: you reckon before the show gets canned?
Speaker 1: It's not it makes some still get millions of still
Speaker 1: so popular.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say it's probably Tria support thirty one because
Speaker 3: there's been one every season except the first, right, or
Speaker 3: have they been multiple per seasons.
Speaker 4: I feel like it's more likely that the majority of
Speaker 4: the cast will just pass away and they'll have to
Speaker 4: cancel it for that reason rather than.
Speaker 1: I mean like if you lose one of the core.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like at this point, I mean.
Speaker 2: Like the enough people who are able to pull amazing
Speaker 2: like Home.
Speaker 4: Uh, like a Mickey Mouse scenario where they like train people,
Speaker 4: they have them at the ready to replace them.
Speaker 2: They change Home with voice to Mickey Mouse.
Speaker 3: There's an ending like sequence in a newer Simpsons episode
Speaker 3: where they do a little song. I'm not gonna say it,
Speaker 3: but they say like they'll never stop. The Simpsons have
Speaker 3: no fears. We'll have stories for years and one of
Speaker 3: them is like Marsh and it's all sing song, but
Speaker 3: it's like Marsh becomes a robot. One of them like
Speaker 3: it's a jokes, but it's it's also true because they're like,
Speaker 3: it's never it's too big to be canceled. But anyway,
Speaker 3: we can move on from the Simpsons because we do
Speaker 3: have to talk about Ronald Brake.
Speaker 1: Let's move on, John, what you've been doing?
Speaker 4: I was, I popped in and played some Batman Arkham City.
Speaker 4: I was feeling that Batman itch and I was like,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna pop it in. It was
Speaker 4: it was. It took me like only like ten hours.
Speaker 4: It was like a nice like I'm just gonna beat
Speaker 4: a game real quick and have a good time, And
Speaker 4: that is a fantastic game.
Speaker 2: The weird thing is Alfred has to help Batman with
Speaker 2: his Batman You get a little, you get a little.
Speaker 3: I saw it in your badge as soon as John
Speaker 3: Luke said it, I saw.
Speaker 1: More n.
Speaker 2: Carry Uh.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know what to say about the game.
Speaker 4: That hasn't been said in for years, and it's just
Speaker 4: it's it's really good. Uh, it's really good, you know what,
Speaker 4: you know, I'll tomorrow, I'll admit it.
Speaker 2: Finally everyone comes around.
Speaker 4: It might be the best Batman game.
Speaker 2: It is the best game.
Speaker 4: I still think I like the slightly more condensed pack
Speaker 4: structure of Asylum, but I'll admit that I think from
Speaker 4: like a story perspective, and like the design. I mean
Speaker 4: the like their their take on like Old Gotham, and
Speaker 4: like that architecture, and like the stuff like wonder City
Speaker 4: underneath it's incredibly well done. Like that game's art style
Speaker 4: holds up beautifully.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like they To truly feel like Batman, you
Speaker 2: need an open world like you need to. You need
Speaker 2: a a city to move around and like have crimes
Speaker 2: to drop in on like in an asylum. That is
Speaker 2: about mine experience. But you don't really get the complete
Speaker 2: Batman experience, right, You don't get to see in the
Speaker 2: distance the bat signal like piercing the sky and fly
Speaker 2: towards it. That's the that's that's when you truly feel
Speaker 2: like Batman, and that is why City is the best one.
Speaker 4: Also the zip where you where you do like the
Speaker 4: double tap and he like slingshots himself. Oh so satisfying.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, that is like that's why I
Speaker 2: keep playing Night because it feels so satisfying in that one.
Speaker 2: That's where they like perfect that field.
Speaker 4: I want to try Night again. I only played it once.
Speaker 4: It's the only one I've played once. I played all
Speaker 4: the others like multiple times.
Speaker 2: You should play it again, Like that's so burnt.
Speaker 4: I really that game feels bloated in a way that
Speaker 4: I just was, like I just I just felt done
Speaker 4: with it by the time I beat it.
Speaker 2: I think it was like it came out in the
Speaker 2: height of like open world fatigue as well, but like
Speaker 2: I played it again recently and just coming at it
Speaker 2: at a slower pace after not really playing many open
Speaker 2: world games. It felt so good, Like it felt really
Speaker 2: well paced, and there's parts of it that feel like
Speaker 2: it's perhaps not as like high quality as other things.
Speaker 2: I know people don't like the Batmobile a lot, or
Speaker 2: the missions around it. There's certain things that you can skip,
Speaker 2: like the Riddler stuff like just don't don't bother, like
Speaker 2: it's not right. Yeah, but like when you do that,
Speaker 2: it's such a good game. It's so much fun and
Speaker 2: it feels so good to play, and I think like
Speaker 2: the story holds up really well.
Speaker 4: The story is the thing I remembered the most and
Speaker 4: kind of why I want to replay it. But yeah,
Speaker 4: I think it's a shame that like I have to
Speaker 4: ignore so much of it, Like like I did all
Speaker 4: the Riddler trophies and like Arkham Asylum and City, and
Speaker 4: I felt like those like it was like the right amount.
Speaker 4: It felt it felt good to do it all and
Speaker 4: it didn't feel like exhausting, And like I think A
Speaker 4: Night just like went too far in the way that
Speaker 4: I think a lot of open world games do now
Speaker 4: where they're like, let's just put more stuff in it,
Speaker 4: and you're like, oh god, no, I don't want to
Speaker 4: collect another goddamn Riddler trophy. I don't care, Catwoman, you
Speaker 4: can just hang there forever and I'll you'll never be saved.
Speaker 2: Sorry, Cal, I'd be interested to see what you think
Speaker 2: of it now, because I I when I went back
Speaker 2: to it, I think I liked it more than the
Speaker 2: first time I played it.
Speaker 4: Okay, I definitely want to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good. It's like night you gigabytes though, so
Speaker 2: good luck with that.
Speaker 4: Did they fix the PC version eventually?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you became a bit British there.
Speaker 3: I was about to say version you fix the.
Speaker 2: People into but yeah, it got updated and I think
Speaker 2: it's way better. I know. Chris Praira was playing it recently.
Speaker 2: He said it looks amazing and it performs well. So
Speaker 2: I think they eventually fixed it up.
Speaker 4: Yes, so it's good. That was one of those people
Speaker 4: that bought it on PC when it came out, heard
Speaker 4: about all the issues, and I was like, oh, maybe
Speaker 4: I'll be lucky. I'll be one of those people that
Speaker 4: doesn't have it. Turned it on. All the textures were
Speaker 4: missing on like Gordon's face and that like opening scene,
Speaker 4: and I just immediately turned it off, refunded it and
Speaker 4: downloaded the PS four version.
Speaker 1: That's for bad tim.
Speaker 2: Been playing so I have been playing a game called
Speaker 2: Batman Arkham City. No, so, I played a bunch of
Speaker 2: Arkham City, and then I when I'm actually going back
Speaker 2: to Asylum now just because I've been in the mood
Speaker 2: for it, but I won't talk about that too much.
Speaker 2: I been playing Kimi, still Yami, still good, enjoying it.
Speaker 2: I can't remember how did they add things to this
Speaker 2: game A ton, yeah, because like there's certain like side
Speaker 2: quests and even like plot beats that I'm like, I
Speaker 2: do I do not remember this.
Speaker 4: Most of the side stuff is new new right. You
Speaker 4: can definitely tell from the writing it feels very different.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels very current. And I was like, I
Speaker 2: don't remember any of this stuff. I just remember like
Speaker 2: straight up brawl stuff and not a lot of like
Speaker 2: extra material.
Speaker 4: All the Margin stuff is completely now, like that original
Speaker 4: game shows up like three.
Speaker 2: Times, three or four times. Yeah, That's why I was like, wow,
Speaker 2: but Margin was really popular now. I don't remember him
Speaker 2: being this popular back in the day. I remember him
Speaker 2: being like an asshole like four or five times to me,
Speaker 2: and I whopped his ass.
Speaker 4: It's two I think made him twos, yeah.
Speaker 2: Twos where he were really Yeah, So like I'm really
Speaker 2: enjoying the feeling of like going back to that game
Speaker 2: and it being somehow better than I remember it to be,
Speaker 2: like and like knowing that this is well different, but
Speaker 2: like it's like rediscovering an old love for the first time.
Speaker 2: Like it's really really fun to do that. And I
Speaker 2: spent a lot of time doing the stupid mini game. Still.
Speaker 2: I played UFO Catcher yesterday for maybe an hour and
Speaker 2: a half. Pocket Racer, I did Pocket Racer a really
Speaker 2: long time. I've done too much bowling, and I do
Speaker 2: I do the thing with the Hostess club where I
Speaker 2: just go down to chat to the lady.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the lady. It's like, this is what reminded me,
Speaker 2: this is what made me think this is this is
Speaker 2: very different, like the Hostess mission in Kwame.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think the character I got was her name is
Speaker 2: Rena or something like that, but she is a lesbian
Speaker 2: or maybe she's bisexual. She's bisexual like Hostess and like
Speaker 2: is very progressive and chill about everything, and like Kiri
Speaker 2: at the same time is like huh, discovering about like
Speaker 2: her preferences and like.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think if that's the same, because there's
Speaker 4: there's one where he's like specifically, there's like a plot
Speaker 4: line where like a girl's like feeling like she just
Speaker 4: needs to date guys and he basically like cure you
Speaker 4: like tells her like convinces are like, no, you should
Speaker 4: be yourself, don't change for society and other people.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that there's an element of that in this.
Speaker 2: But the thing is that I don't remember that in
Speaker 2: the original, Like maybe I just wasn't like I.
Speaker 4: Think all the the hostess stuff in Kiwami is different
Speaker 4: than it was. Yeah, I think it's committed.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's why I was like, this is
Speaker 2: very different.
Speaker 3: It's very progressive even now versus when that came out.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly what I was thinking. And it was
Speaker 2: one of those moments where even Kiriri was like like
Speaker 2: he's I'm at the stage way like he she's telling
Speaker 2: a story at like, oh, yeah, my ex, I was
Speaker 2: talking to my ex, et cetera, et cetera. And then
Speaker 2: he's like, oh, so would you get back with him?
Speaker 2: And she was like him and he's like oh, yes,
Speaker 2: of course, and then like they're like learning about each
Speaker 2: other and like it's really wholesome the way he kind
Speaker 2: of starts and then he'll retain that information next time
Speaker 2: you speak to her, So he's like internalizing her sexuality
Speaker 2: and then talking to her with respect, and like, Kiriu
Speaker 2: is good.
Speaker 4: The Yakuza team is definitely one of the more progressive
Speaker 4: video game teams Japan or not, like just in general,
Speaker 4: like even like I haven't played them, so I can't
Speaker 4: comment on like personally, but I know that for the
Speaker 4: remasters of three, four and five, they completely redid the
Speaker 4: translation to like line it up with like the current
Speaker 4: team that starts to zero, and apparently they they like
Speaker 4: changed a lot of it and they changed like transphobic stuff,
Speaker 4: and that was not just like the localization team decided
Speaker 4: to do that. That was like like Negosti himself was like, no,
Speaker 4: like that stuff doesn't fly anymore, we need to fix that.
Speaker 4: And I think that's I really appreciate. Going forward.
Speaker 2: There's there's a scene with Maguma which I won't.
Speaker 4: Spoil, but I think I know what you're talking.
Speaker 2: He does something which you would think, like it would
Speaker 2: be CEO would have a very you would think someone
Speaker 2: would have a very specific reaction to and like you're
Speaker 2: given the options just play off as normal, and it's
Speaker 2: just the funniest thing because like even Margina was like,
Speaker 2: how is this not not like on how is this
Speaker 2: not getting you on hill? What's going on here?
Speaker 4: Have you that the Pocket Racer yet?
Speaker 2: No, he's not showed up there. He's hiding out in
Speaker 2: the construction in somewhere in the city right now.
Speaker 4: So I think my Pocket Racer is the favorite one
Speaker 4: because it like in that game, he's like just showing
Speaker 4: up in all the different mini games like Bothering Cure you.
Speaker 4: When he shows up at the Pocket Racer, Curius like
Speaker 4: not here, this is a sacred place for me. There
Speaker 4: are children here, we are having wholesome fun, Like I
Speaker 4: will go outside and I will fight you, but you
Speaker 4: need to leave. And then Margima's like, no, this looks great.
Speaker 4: I wanna I'm gonna buy a bunch of Pocket Racers now.
Speaker 4: Oh it's so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the setup for Majima in Kiwami is like
Speaker 2: he's helping Kirri you remember things or like get back
Speaker 2: to a certain state of his like legend, and he
Speaker 2: does that by just being a menace everywhere. So like
Speaker 2: you could turn a corner and he'd like irrupt from
Speaker 2: like a bin to be like now we have to fight.
Speaker 2: And he'll like do things like send you a threatening
Speaker 2: phone call to be like don't come down the street.
Speaker 2: If you come down the street, I will find you.
Speaker 2: And he'll like hide out in places. So he's generally
Speaker 2: just being a nuisance the entire time, but it's so
Speaker 2: that you can fight him every time you see him.
Speaker 2: And like sometimes you'll be walking down the street and
Speaker 2: you'll just hear like a siren and then you'll see
Speaker 2: a big red exclamation mark in the distance, and it's
Speaker 2: because he's like spotted you in the distance and he
Speaker 2: comes like running towards you, and.
Speaker 3: You're like, shit, it's Nemesis.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then sometimes like you'll get a call from
Speaker 2: like his like his underlings, and they'd be like, have
Speaker 2: you seen Marjuma? Anyway, he said a bunch of weird shit,
Speaker 2: and now he's like run off and he's talking something
Speaker 2: about like a new way to get carry you back
Speaker 2: or something like that, and you have to be like, oh,
Speaker 2: find damn. You're like babysitting him as well as kind
Speaker 2: of like kind of indulging his madness. It's really fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so I'm playing your Army. That's good. And then I'm
Speaker 2: watching an anime. Rewatching an anime for like the fifth time,
Speaker 2: call You're Lie in April, which I think he is
Speaker 2: a perfect anime. I've talked about him many times. It's
Speaker 2: about a boy, a pianist, who meets a girl, a violinist,
Speaker 2: and they go in on an emotionally devastating journey that
Speaker 2: will make almost humans cry. Yeah, you want to get
Speaker 2: rued It's a ten out of ten. And if you
Speaker 2: want to get ruined by an anime but also feel
Speaker 2: like just unbelievable ination and uplifting feelings, but also like
Speaker 2: soaring highest crushing lows the anime, it's it's that watch
Speaker 2: it is phenomenal, Like.
Speaker 3: School Days is an anime that will ruin you in
Speaker 3: a really bad way. I would say You're Lying in
Speaker 3: April is like a good ruin.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the whole thing is about like finding inspiration
Speaker 2: in others and rediscovering who you are, but also living
Speaker 2: life to the fullest. It's it's phenomenal. I wish everyone
Speaker 2: watched it, but sometimes, what are you watching it on?
Speaker 2: It's on Netflix? Oh Lucy, watch it? You will, you'll
Speaker 2: you will absolutely love it. I'm going to be mudge
Speaker 2: my now, I'm going to be everywhere where, like jumping
Speaker 2: out from behind your TV. What you're watching? Is it
Speaker 2: your lae in April?
Speaker 1: Now? What I'm watching great seg is Uh. I'm not proud,
Speaker 1: but I'm just I've had one of those weeks where
Speaker 1: it's just very difficult for me to like concentrate on
Speaker 1: anything really. So I've been watching ninety Days.
Speaker 4: Yeah, whoa.
Speaker 1: We welcome. I've just been watching like trash TV. And
Speaker 1: when I watched the Weekend, Oh, I watched the first
Speaker 1: two episodes of Lovecraft Country. It is, but it also
Speaker 1: is like, I don't know, it's not how I pictured
Speaker 1: it when I read the book a couple of years ago.
Speaker 1: It's very like a very high budget, which shouldn't surprise
Speaker 1: me when you know Jordan Peel and jj Abrams are attached.
Speaker 1: The first episode is like really good, like setting out
Speaker 1: what the world is, who the characters are, and the
Speaker 1: second episode just kind of takes things up to eleven
Speaker 1: in a way that I'm not sure that I really liked.
Speaker 1: I think the thing that I liked in the book
Speaker 1: bo so a primer on Lovecraft Country you've not seen.
Speaker 1: It's on HBO. It is a The book is more
Speaker 1: of like an anthology of each chapter's a different point
Speaker 1: of view of a character, and it's family and friends
Speaker 1: of a black family who are their entire their business
Speaker 1: is like they have a a guide book of places
Speaker 1: that are safe to go for black people. And it's
Speaker 1: set God is it set in like the fifties or
Speaker 1: early sixties and so yeah, and so they, you know,
Speaker 1: you deal with these really uncomfortable scenes with like they
Speaker 1: roll into a town and they go to a place
Speaker 1: where they've been previously told as safe, and they discover that,
Speaker 1: you know, this town is the furthest thing from safe,
Speaker 1: and you have to the mounting tension of like being
Speaker 1: in that environment for them is like really well executed.
Speaker 1: But obviously it has Lovecraft in it. So it's also
Speaker 1: this very incredible mix of love crafty and horror too,
Speaker 1: in secret societies and all that shit. And I really
Speaker 1: really loved the book. Tim and I both read it
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and so, I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: very much intrigued by the show. It hasn't grabbed me
Speaker 1: as quickly as I thought it would, even though I
Speaker 1: have the background on the show on the book, but
Speaker 1: I'm going to keep watching it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to check it out. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: think the thing that you said there where like it
Speaker 2: doesn't match what you were thinking. Was my biggest worry.
Speaker 1: Because I fully, I fully anticipated like every episode, you know,
Speaker 1: being the POV of a particular character, because there are
Speaker 1: some some stuff with like Hippolyta coming up that I'm
Speaker 1: really excited to see. I'm just intrigued as to how
Speaker 1: they do it, Like I think maybe the first two
Speaker 1: episodes are the the general setup of the whole show
Speaker 1: and then they'll move into the anthology stuff. But other
Speaker 1: than that, I've been playing yeah because of but my
Speaker 1: RSI has been very bad the last couple of nights.
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to play anything, and I'm actually
Speaker 1: at a boss fight and I can't physically play it
Speaker 1: because I risk hurts. So that's why I've been watching
Speaker 1: so much trash TV that I don't mean to concentrate on.
Speaker 2: Also, Love on the Spectrum.
Speaker 1: Oh, I did watch someone Love on the Spectrum, which
Speaker 1: is very very wholesome, very very sweet, recommended to us
Speaker 1: by well my boss Chris Beaumont put it in the
Speaker 1: group chat that we're in and it's very very wholesome.
Speaker 1: The thing that I guess I never really had to
Speaker 1: think about. But like autistic kids, they get a lot
Speaker 1: of help. It's school about learning to socialize and social
Speaker 1: cues and stuff, but they don't get that, you know,
Speaker 1: really when they leave. And so dating is a very
Speaker 1: difficult prospect for a lot of them. And so the
Speaker 1: show follows a lady who it's at her entire job
Speaker 1: is to kind of teach them the dos and don'ts
Speaker 1: of dating, consent and you know, what flirting is, and
Speaker 1: how to keep a conversation going as an adult in
Speaker 1: a romantic scenario. It's very very wholesome, very very good,
Speaker 1: and if you want to cry wholesome tears, then watch that.
Speaker 2: The thing I like about it is like almost because
Speaker 2: there's a bunch of people, and like it follows a
Speaker 2: bunch of people. Almost all of them are like they're nerdy,
Speaker 2: they love the stuff that we do like and they're
Speaker 2: like I want someone who loves sailor me yeah, and
Speaker 2: you're like, yeah, same. And there's like someone who's like
Speaker 2: a savant at Smash Brothers and like stuff like that.
Speaker 1: She brings out smash when they're to date.
Speaker 2: And whoops the other person at it.
Speaker 1: It's really good.
Speaker 2: It's really wholesome and like nice, and it kind of
Speaker 2: like is insight into something like as Lucy said, like
Speaker 2: how does you know her? People who live live you know,
Speaker 2: in this way kind of tackle adult things like dating
Speaker 2: and forming serious bonds with people. It's fascinating and like
Speaker 2: kind of like I don't want to say uplifting, but
Speaker 2: like it's endearing to see them, you know, loving the
Speaker 2: things that we love and trying their best at this
Speaker 2: stuff and in a lot of cases being way smart
Speaker 2: and way better than most people are.
Speaker 1: One of the things I do really appreciate about the
Speaker 1: show is that I was kind of afraid that it
Speaker 1: would be very take advantage of them and you know,
Speaker 1: put them in situations just to make fun of them.
Speaker 1: But they always have the producer micd Up and you
Speaker 1: always hear him saying things like are you comfortable with this?
Speaker 1: You don't have to do this if you don't want to,
Speaker 1: and like talking to them in a really reassuring and
Speaker 1: pleasant way and just obviously just treating them like a
Speaker 1: human being. But it's really nice to see that they're
Speaker 1: not being exports for entertainment.
Speaker 3: So we have Oh, go on, I'm just gonna say
Speaker 3: I've done that. That'smatross thing except with Mario Kart on
Speaker 3: three separate occasions.
Speaker 2: Love it, So.
Speaker 3: I just if I find it very relatable and I
Speaker 3: would like to watch it.
Speaker 1: Now, let's move on because we have spent almost forty
Speaker 1: minutes talking about what we've been playing and doing, So
Speaker 1: let's talk. Let's go into the news.
Speaker 2: Welcome to the news. This is the part of the
Speaker 2: show where we talk about the news.
Speaker 1: Ale all right, DC FanDome. Honestly, I think bigger than
Speaker 1: anyone could have anticipated when DC said they were going
Speaker 1: to be putting on their own event. We had trailers
Speaker 1: for Wonder Woman. I have not watched the Justice League trailer.
Speaker 2: I did. I was confused, Like I want to say,
Speaker 2: I don't care. I want to say one thing about
Speaker 2: the Just League trailer. It leaked, A trailer leaked before
Speaker 2: DC fandom, and literally everyone watched it, pointing and laughed
Speaker 2: and went, Wow, this is so shit. This is definitely
Speaker 2: one hundred percent fake, Like there's no way it looked
Speaker 2: like someone went so, this looks like someone's taking old
Speaker 2: footage from old trailers, stitches together and put the like
Speaker 2: a really awful, cheesy soundtrack on it to try and
Speaker 2: make it look bad, and then they showed the trailer
Speaker 2: and it was the same trailer.
Speaker 1: I just like, you know, if you're excited about the
Speaker 1: just Sleep the Snyder cut, then you know that's that's
Speaker 1: totally fine. I just I don't have it in me
Speaker 1: to care about that movie or hours a mini series.
Speaker 2: Now four hours. I think the weird thing about it.
Speaker 2: The entire thing was like, I'm with you, I'm really
Speaker 2: interested in seeing what it is and really interested in
Speaker 2: watching it. But there was an element of watching that
Speaker 2: whole reveal and watching the panel which was like everyone
Speaker 2: just treating Zack Snyder like he's some sort of god.
Speaker 2: And then also Zack Snyder kind of reinforce he was
Speaker 2: just done, but his whole thing was like he was
Speaker 2: reinforcing the things that people did to make it happen,
Speaker 2: and the way that people reacted bitter around it, and
Speaker 2: like the greater narrative around it, like I don't want
Speaker 2: to be mean, but it was a lot of people
Speaker 2: bullying other people about getting this done and being really
Speaker 2: shitty on the internet, and his like tacit approval of
Speaker 2: that is like, come on, man, And then he's out there,
Speaker 2: you know, attacking people who say they don't like it,
Speaker 2: which is like what you're doing, Like is this a
Speaker 2: good look for you? Like you're already your your movement
Speaker 2: is tarnished with being like a bullying like movement, and
Speaker 2: then you go out there and attack someone who said
Speaker 2: that they don't like what they see.
Speaker 1: It's weird. And I, I mean, let's talk about other
Speaker 1: cooler stuff from DC fandom. So the Batman trailer.
Speaker 4: Baby, oh my god, I'm alling.
Speaker 1: Like obviously, that was another one that leaked and I
Speaker 1: watched it out of morbid curiosity, and I.
Speaker 4: Was like, oh god, it was just a really good trailer.
Speaker 1: Trailer they've only shot.
Speaker 4: Oh really wow, Yeah yeah yeah. Georgia. Georgia watched it
Speaker 4: because she's like everyone's talking about this trailer, let's see it.
Speaker 4: She doesn't care about Batman or superheroes. She doesn't really
Speaker 4: like dark stuff. She was like, that was a really good,
Speaker 4: damn good trailer.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, so a really good Nirvana pick too.
Speaker 2: Robert Pattinson, Emo, Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 1: I loved Robert Pattinson is I love that they keep
Speaker 1: the eyeliner on his face.
Speaker 2: During that sequence his panel where they where they brought
Speaker 2: him on the stage. My man was in space high
Speaker 2: like he was he was not in this galaxy because
Speaker 2: like he was falling asleep, and he was like, would
Speaker 2: just watch it. He's like, I do not care about
Speaker 2: being here one Yeah, he was like out of there.
Speaker 2: He just like passed it on too matter reeves. The
Speaker 2: was like later and then we had him on site.
Speaker 2: Eddie did an interview with him about for Tenant and
Speaker 2: he talked about Eddie asked him what his favorite video
Speaker 2: game was, and he talked about how one of the
Speaker 2: few times in his life he cried was Final Fantsy
Speaker 2: vin Heiress Untimely Demise, and then he also called her
Speaker 2: his first love. I was like, I am all on
Speaker 2: board with you. He's one of us.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing to do is there's a great super
Speaker 1: cut on YouTube of I think it's called something like
Speaker 1: how much Robert Pattinson Hated being in Twilight, And it's
Speaker 1: just this cut of all the stuff he said in interviews,
Speaker 1: but also there's a lot of stuff on the DVD
Speaker 1: commentary Twilight. He just talks absolute ship and it's so
Speaker 1: clear that he just hated every moment of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been, we've been, Lucy and I have been
Speaker 3: watching Twilight with a group, and it's very obvious watching
Speaker 3: the movie as well. I mean, and like the thing
Speaker 3: about the Batman trailer is like, that's what everyone who
Speaker 3: was attracted to Edward in Twilight, That's what I know.
Speaker 4: Like he's got like the clean hair and he's got
Speaker 4: the like the the pale skin like Robert Pattinson, but
Speaker 4: like he's got his messy hair down, he's got the.
Speaker 3: Like No, that's what I'm saying. It's saying, this is
Speaker 3: okay where you graduate?
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly. Yeah, Like I I purely think he just
Speaker 4: he didn't he didn't have the right look in Twilight.
Speaker 2: I think the other thing in that trailer is like
Speaker 2: Colin Farrell, I was Richard Nixon.
Speaker 1: He looks like the future. He looks like Futurama's interpretation
Speaker 1: of Richard.
Speaker 4: Not look like I had no idea until people say,
Speaker 4: what the old what is it?
Speaker 1: John Q? Nixon on it? Yeah, And also I think
Speaker 1: Paul Dane was a fantastic actor, and so I'm very
Speaker 1: excited to see and also Zoe Kravitz too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a that's a good pick.
Speaker 2: I want I want Batman to grab Ridler and shout
Speaker 2: stop crying your sniveling ass at him, just because that
Speaker 2: should be the reference for him.
Speaker 1: That would be very good. But also hang on, if
Speaker 1: he's British.
Speaker 2: That'd be yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Moving on. One woman. Trailer didn't do much for me.
Speaker 1: I don't hear about that. But let's talk about the games.
Speaker 1: So Gotham Knights, which is like having the gameplay stuff
Speaker 1: that they showed after as well, that trailer was really strong.
Speaker 1: I'm all in for Gotham Knights and Tim you were
Speaker 1: speaking to one.
Speaker 2: Of us Montreal just yeah, I talked to them this morning.
Speaker 2: So if you go on Hit video Game where it's
Speaker 2: GameSpot dot com, you'll find an interview with the creative
Speaker 2: director and senior producer of the game, and we talk
Speaker 2: about like just a bunch of things, like I clarified
Speaker 2: what the game is about and kind of like the
Speaker 2: the format of it, and they are very very clear
Speaker 2: about it not being a games as a service model,
Speaker 2: which is good, and kind of reiterated that it can
Speaker 2: be played single player or in co op is two
Speaker 2: player co op only, which it makes me slightly sad,
Speaker 2: but especially because there's yeah, that's the that's the weird thing,
Speaker 2: but like a lot of really interesting things in there,
Speaker 2: Like I talked to them about like their own reputation,
Speaker 2: like how they feel about themselves given that, you know,
Speaker 2: to start with, everyone was just like, oh, second fiddle
Speaker 2: to rock Steady. But then over time poob actually that
Speaker 2: Origins game was okay, it's pretty good. So there was that,
Speaker 2: And I asked him about whether Batman was actually dead,
Speaker 2: and they were very very clear about him being dead.
Speaker 2: But I looked at him, I was like, still don't
Speaker 2: believe you, Still don't believe you, and like they're they're
Speaker 2: currently like tweeting at me saying yes, he's dead, but
Speaker 2: I'm like, technically, if you're a talent, you are technically dead.
Speaker 2: So maybe he's pretending to be ted so he could
Speaker 2: be in the Court of Owls anyway, he ned shit
Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, I'm well excited for that game. Obviously,
Speaker 2: very happy to see w Montreal trying something different.
Speaker 4: And I really appreciate that it's its own universe that
Speaker 4: they're like, it's it can stand apart from the Arkham
Speaker 4: Games by being its own continuity. Like I think I
Speaker 4: like how colorful, the costumes are I kind of hope
Speaker 4: it has like a different tone like the Arkham games
Speaker 4: are like kind of get a little like brooding intense Batman,
Speaker 4: and I hope this is like a little bit more
Speaker 4: like like I think background this was little more fun,
Speaker 4: little more witty, and then like Batman was in like
Speaker 4: night Yeah a little. I'm a little worried about the
Speaker 4: leveling stuff.
Speaker 1: Wells just matter, nothing's gated.
Speaker 4: I guess it's more it's not like I think it's
Speaker 4: gonna be ruined the game. I guess it's more just
Speaker 4: like I don't I don't know what it'll add to
Speaker 4: the game, and I want to be like obviously we've
Speaker 4: seen so little. But I think for me, I see
Speaker 4: it more as like how I felt about the Last
Speaker 4: God of War, where I'm like, great game. I don't
Speaker 4: know if I needed any of that like crafting gear
Speaker 4: stuff in that game, Like you could have taken that
Speaker 4: out of the game and it would have been like
Speaker 4: totally fine, Like I don't think it needed it, and
Speaker 4: so they need to convince me that like the game
Speaker 4: needs this like leveling kind of like gear crafting system
Speaker 4: that they're adding to it, because I'm just I'm not
Speaker 4: I'm not sure if I'm convinced.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, I I was watching the game plan and I
Speaker 1: was like, please let me turn those damage counters off.
Speaker 4: Yes, I don't want to say I don't want to
Speaker 4: see that.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I asked them about like balancing the damage
Speaker 2: numbers and characters and enemies scaling alongside you, and like
Speaker 2: they're The response was made sense, but it also kind
Speaker 2: of like it kind of explains that they want you
Speaker 2: to feel like the underdog in certain situations. They want
Speaker 2: you to feel like you need to be away, you
Speaker 2: need to go away and develop your because the whole
Speaker 2: thing is like, from what I can tell, it's not
Speaker 2: set across one They actually said, it takes place across
Speaker 2: an extended period of time where you're in the belfry
Speaker 2: during the day doing investigation and whatever you may be
Speaker 2: on the side, and then each night you go out
Speaker 2: into the world and control it. And the whole purpose
Speaker 2: is like you're basically building yourself up to prove to
Speaker 2: the world that you are the appropriate replacement for Batman.
Speaker 2: And then so as part of that, the impression that
Speaker 2: I got was like they need areas to be like
Speaker 2: this is too hard otherwise, so that when you are
Speaker 2: building yourself up, they those serve as an area where
Speaker 2: you can go there and feel a sense of growth,
Speaker 2: Like you couldn't do this before, but now you've come back,
Speaker 2: and because of all the hours you've put in the
Speaker 2: days previously solving mysteries and doing crime stuff and you know,
Speaker 2: being a vigilante, you're now capable of doing this. And
Speaker 2: the one thing that they briefly mentioned is like as
Speaker 2: you scale up, and as the enemies scale up, they
Speaker 2: change in their behavior. So it's not like just an
Speaker 2: arbitrary number where suddenly they're more power. It's like if
Speaker 2: you fight mister Freeze at level ten versus level thirty,
Speaker 2: it's a different behaving mister Freeze. And that seemed like
Speaker 2: it made a little more sense, or at least from
Speaker 2: a narrative perspective, it was more engaging to me. We'll
Speaker 2: see how it works out in practice, but I think
Speaker 2: I've warmed to the idea of the levels now. But
Speaker 2: I do wish that you can remove the numbers.
Speaker 1: So I think I think they'll probably see the feedback
Speaker 1: because I was a lot of the feedback that I
Speaker 1: saw on Saturday was people being like I don't want
Speaker 1: to see the damage. I'm doing impression of people like me.
Speaker 1: I don't want to see the damage cans. Let's move
Speaker 1: on to Suicide Squad, which we didn't see gameplayoff, but
Speaker 1: we did see a little pre rendered trailers Suicide Squad.
Speaker 1: It was one of those situations where it was like
Speaker 1: rumored for years and then they just tweet it out.
Speaker 1: I love the games that rock Steady make. This is
Speaker 1: a very different composition. Needs to be hard about the
Speaker 1: work practices of rock Steady right now. There's obviously a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that's come out recently about some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that's been going on in the studio. I
Speaker 1: don't know how deep we want to get into that.
Speaker 1: Everything's still I don't know. Yeah, it's very very strange.
Speaker 2: We have reporting up on the site, and it's sticky
Speaker 2: and tricky to the point where trying to to kind
Speaker 2: of recall it and recount it from memory is probably
Speaker 2: a bad idea because despite best intentions, there has been
Speaker 2: various developments and if we, you know, recount it out
Speaker 2: of order, it could completely change the narrative. So we'll
Speaker 2: try and avoid doing that. But they're safe to say
Speaker 2: that there were questions asked around the working practices there
Speaker 2: and the abuses of power that may have happened. Like
Speaker 2: I said, we've got up to date reporting on the
Speaker 2: site if you want to read up about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so not to like it's it's very weird, as
Speaker 1: similar to the Ubisoft stuff from a while ago, where
Speaker 1: it's like hundreds of people work on a game and
Speaker 1: if you don't talk about it, you're kind of diminishing
Speaker 1: their work on it because it's like a few bad
Speaker 1: eggs ruin it for everyone sort of thing. So us
Speaker 1: talking about just asqu is in no way uh agreeing
Speaker 1: with whatever may yeah, endorsing anything, But it's like, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean that applies to any situation like that, right, Like
Speaker 3: I mean, we have to deal with this is a
Speaker 3: quick aside. We have to deal with this a lot
Speaker 3: with with reviews. I mean, like you know, you've heard
Speaker 3: about like rock stars labor practices being suspect and that
Speaker 3: was right around red Ded Redemption too, And that's something
Speaker 3: I really had to deal with when reviewing that game.
Speaker 3: And you know, you do take into account that there
Speaker 3: are a lot of people who work on a game
Speaker 3: and you don't know as as just the person who's
Speaker 3: playing it. I certainly don't know who worked on what
Speaker 3: and during what times and how long each thing took.
Speaker 3: And there's just there's so many moving parts there that
Speaker 3: I considered them to be very separate. And yeah, in
Speaker 3: no way is like a good score and endorsement of
Speaker 3: bad labor practices. I think those things can exist side
Speaker 3: by side. So yeah, good shout Lucy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to stick someone like tweeted a
Speaker 1: bunch of us about not talking about the ubisof stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, Ubisoft post show was just
Speaker 1: us ragging on yupisoff and not talking about this stuff,
Speaker 1: and like, we, you know, have condemned it then and
Speaker 1: we condemn it now. So I just wanted to make
Speaker 1: that kind of clear up front. But like, let's ungracefully
Speaker 1: segue to talking about it's very difficult to get a
Speaker 1: feeling for a game when you're just seeing and Trail
Speaker 1: does king shock in it. My Suicide Squad knowledge is
Speaker 1: begins and ends with the movie. I've never read any
Speaker 1: Suicide Squad is one of.
Speaker 2: The most heartbreaking things I've heard in a long time.
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, you know, I mean, like, I love
Speaker 1: Holly Quinn and so yeah, I'm like cautiously optimistic for
Speaker 1: this game, like it's rock Steady. Everything they touch I've loved,
Speaker 1: and so I'm sure I'm gonna play it. But it's
Speaker 1: it's very strange because I just don't have a connection
Speaker 1: to those characters other than Holly Quinn.
Speaker 4: I loved the tone. I'm not the first to say this,
Speaker 4: but it gave me like mad Sunset Overdrive, which is
Speaker 4: one of my favorite games of this generation. So I'm like,
Speaker 4: all right, if Insomniac's not gonna make Sunset over Drive too,
Speaker 4: maybe rock Steady will. So.
Speaker 2: So the interesting thing about this is this is set
Speaker 2: in the Commune averse, so this is a sequel and continuation. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Gotham Knights isn't. This is so, which is weird.
Speaker 4: So that means when they're saying kill the Justice League,
Speaker 4: Batman wouldn't be in the Justice League at that point.
Speaker 2: He would technically because depends on this is gonna I
Speaker 2: feel like I might start by giving myself a waggie, but.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying doesn't take place after technically.
Speaker 1: Tom, can you get your glasses you?
Speaker 2: Technically that you're find Everyone reads Everyone reads the Nightfall
Speaker 2: ending as Bruce Wayne dying or Batman dying and just
Speaker 2: all like removing himself from the equation. But like, I
Speaker 2: think the other interpretation is like he that ending is
Speaker 2: him giving into the Batman fully, so he he kills
Speaker 2: off Bruce Wayne and becomes the Batman wholeheartedly by taking
Speaker 2: on the Scarecrow toxins. So when at the end of
Speaker 2: that Nightfall Protocol ending, those those goons in the alley
Speaker 2: like look up and they're like engulfed by this demon,
Speaker 2: I think that's Batman using the Scarecrow toxin to kind
Speaker 2: of up his fear level. So if you if that
Speaker 2: is the canonical ending, he's still alive, he's just a
Speaker 2: bit more extreme.
Speaker 4: I I like the idea of that as an ending.
Speaker 4: I don't like how vague it was. I wished I
Speaker 4: would rather they had like committed if that was what
Speaker 4: they wanted to do, they should have just said that.
Speaker 2: I kind of I think, I think that's a way
Speaker 2: more interesting ending. And then like saying one way or
Speaker 2: the other. I love the idea, but because that could
Speaker 2: be that could be like an entire that could be
Speaker 2: as reel for you know, like there's enough to think
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 4: You know what maybe maybe I'm just salty about it
Speaker 4: because you only got that ending. If you did all
Speaker 4: the goddamn Riddler trophies, it sucks and it was hours,
Speaker 4: and I was like, that was it, Like that wasn't
Speaker 4: worth it. So I was maybe maybe I'm just salted.
Speaker 2: That is a good reason. But yeah, I think weather.
Speaker 2: I mean, you'd expected Justice League would involve Batman as well,
Speaker 2: but in the trailer we only get to see Superman
Speaker 2: and he's like he brings up a a law enforcement
Speaker 2: officer and then incinerates him, and You're like, oh, Superman
Speaker 2: is not happy and we've got to kill him. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I like what they talked about briefly. They're like everyone
Speaker 2: feeling distinct and everyone feeling like they will play differently,
Speaker 2: and they showed it off a bit not in game
Speaker 2: players we probably in the traditional sense, but in like
Speaker 2: their vision for it, with you know, the way they
Speaker 2: move around. You know, you had dead Shot using his
Speaker 2: jetpack and that kind of stuff, and other people like
Speaker 2: hopping across the rooftops and King Shark being a shark.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm excited seeing more of it, and I'm
Speaker 2: glad that they've been given an opportunity to do like
Speaker 2: a tone shift. So I like a comedy because people
Speaker 2: were tweeting about how it's people who worked at the
Speaker 2: studio are tweeting about how this is one of the
Speaker 2: funniest games even worked on, and that's incredibly like exciting.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, and what let's quickly talk about cod blops
Speaker 1: cow uh launch within Warzone today very very cool. Well
Speaker 1: not launched, but like revealed with hin Wars and today
Speaker 1: very cool. Looked at the trailer sequel to Black Ops one,
Speaker 1: So Aaron Samson on our team has done a primer
Speaker 1: of what happened in Black Ops because that was ten
Speaker 1: years ago, and I feel like the gokeeper. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I've forgotten a lot about what happened in that game,
Speaker 1: but it looks like Cold was gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of cool stuff. Revisited some fan favorite characters. I'm excited
Speaker 1: for it, like.
Speaker 3: Fan favorite characters like Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 1: Well I was, I was talking more like no, I know,
Speaker 1: but I'm sorry Ronald Reagan.
Speaker 3: I do think there are a lot of interesting I'll
Speaker 3: start with the stuff that's interesting, like the like they
Speaker 3: kind of hinted at, like no kill options like non
Speaker 3: lethal for levels. Cold wool, not a lot of the
Speaker 3: not a lot of fighting, not a lot of battles
Speaker 3: in the Cold War. I don't know if we really
Speaker 3: studied that too hard in history class, because if you
Speaker 3: were in my history class, we stopped at about nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy and then they said summer's coming up, goodbye.
Speaker 1: But I mean in the UK never lend about it
Speaker 1: at all, so fine.
Speaker 3: So, but yeah, I think the non lethal stuff is
Speaker 3: interesting and fitting. I know that I myself a lot
Speaker 3: of us goofed on this today, but I gotta give
Speaker 3: them props for the option to have a gender neutral character.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much that actually does, but I
Speaker 3: do commend them for trying that. I like that it's
Speaker 3: gender classified. I find that very very funny in a
Speaker 3: good way. But I you know, as with anything you're
Speaker 3: gonna have, like like, I do think it's important because
Speaker 3: I do remember when they the first time they made
Speaker 3: female soldiers default. I think it was a ghost or something.
Speaker 3: It was like, you started out in multiplayer with a
Speaker 3: female character. Remember I remember my little brother complaining, it's
Speaker 3: like I can't believe, I can't believe they make you
Speaker 3: play as a girl. And I was like, they would
Speaker 3: make me play as a man my whole life. So
Speaker 3: and then he shut up, But like so, I I
Speaker 3: do think like that that was important for him, and
Speaker 3: I think sometimes this stuff can be important. A lot
Speaker 3: of people play Call of Duty at the.
Speaker 2: Same time, I really want you to make your your
Speaker 2: brother play Super Metroid.
Speaker 3: That you know he hasn't and that he knows he knows,
Speaker 3: he knows what SAMs is. He's played Super Smash Bros.
Speaker 3: He knows what Sam says, but what Samus is that
Speaker 3: she's a girl. And anyway, I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: Call of Duty is interesting because it seems like it
Speaker 3: to like, you know, this is totally just me. I
Speaker 3: don't know anything. I have no insider information, but it
Speaker 3: just seems like somebody there is like what if we
Speaker 3: made a statement and it gets edited out at the
Speaker 3: last minute, but there's like a glimpse of it in there.
Speaker 3: Like Black Ops three had like these glimpses of like
Speaker 3: talking about PTSD and they never quite got there, And
Speaker 3: you know they have like Call of Duty has this
Speaker 3: like really big like active military and veteran player base.
Speaker 3: I to be like to be that person. My therapist
Speaker 3: works with veterans and she's like, oh yeah, all of
Speaker 3: my veteran clients play Call of Duty and that's how
Speaker 3: she relates to me. So like it's I think there's
Speaker 3: like a lot they could say, and they never quite
Speaker 3: get there. So so I don't know if I have
Speaker 3: like high expectations, but I do like have hopes that
Speaker 3: there will be like there will be something cool in there.
Speaker 3: But then then the Brennan Ronald Reagan and they're like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, we really studied a lot of Reagan speeches,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, that sounds really fun. That sounds like
Speaker 3: a great way to spend an afternoon.
Speaker 1: I'd love to do that.
Speaker 3: So I, you know, I just don't know where to
Speaker 3: land on it. Frankly, Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what they do with war Zone,
Speaker 1: like staggering away from you know, the single player stuff.
Speaker 1: Warzon has become a real staple of my like online
Speaker 1: gaming recently, so I'm intrigued. Like Black Ops is always
Speaker 1: the cod franchise that I gravitated towards. It was the
Speaker 1: one the first one that I became really obsessive with
Speaker 1: in terms of the multiplayer, and I had the most
Speaker 1: interesting story, and so it's Raven doing the single player.
Speaker 1: It's not a Triarch software doing it, so.
Speaker 4: I'm actually very That's maybe the thing that's making me
Speaker 4: the most interested about it is I I love Raven.
Speaker 4: I think they're a super underrated developer who's made like
Speaker 4: some really really classic games that I love that I've
Speaker 4: never been like top tier but but are really good.
Speaker 4: And but they've been like stuck at doing Call of
Speaker 4: Duty multiplayer maps for years, so I'm really they're excited
Speaker 4: that they get a chance to do stuff again. Uh
Speaker 4: And and I'm they're bringing back some elements from like
Speaker 4: Black Ops two. Like, like Black Ops two had the
Speaker 4: the like branching story where they're actually multiple different multiple endings,
Speaker 4: the different missions and side missions, and they're actually bringing
Speaker 4: that stuff back into it because I thought that was
Speaker 4: so cool and I was really bummed that, like I
Speaker 4: assume that's where Caldy would have gone going forward, but
Speaker 4: that was the only game to do that. So I'm
Speaker 4: I'm excited that they're bringing that stuff back because thinking
Speaker 4: about it, like I enjoy a good solid like I'll
Speaker 4: just play a five hour shooting campaign, like I kind
Speaker 4: of grew up playing games like those, those kind of
Speaker 4: don't exist as much in the way they do anymore.
Speaker 4: I feel like most games are like third person action
Speaker 4: kind of like that's sort of the current like trend,
Speaker 4: so in a weird way, Call of Duty's kind of
Speaker 4: keeping that genre alive in a bizarre in a bizarre way.
Speaker 3: I'm totally right, though. My dad is like, like he
Speaker 3: he got really into specops the line and he played
Speaker 3: it like ten times, and he was like, Callie, what
Speaker 3: else do I play? And I was like, like, I
Speaker 3: was like, what do you mean. He's like, I just
Speaker 3: want like a shooter campaign and I was like, uh,
Speaker 3: And then I bought him a wolf In's Time. That's
Speaker 3: all I mean to. It's just yeah, Dying Breed for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm excited me too. You know what? Bring back trend
Speaker 1: Restna for the soundtrack, That's all I'm saying. But that
Speaker 1: was Black Ups.
Speaker 2: Too, so back ice Cube.
Speaker 4: He was in Houston Black opps?
Speaker 3: What about Avenge Sevenfold Hill Move?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 4: Yes, where's your God?
Speaker 3: Spirit? Em Spirit?
Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to listener questions.
Speaker 2: It's time for listener questions.
Speaker 1: Thank you jingle Man. As always, if you've got questions,
Speaker 1: email them to us at afterdok podcast against dot com
Speaker 1: or d M one of us message one of us
Speaker 1: for a invite to our discord, very wholesome and a
Speaker 1: lot of the questions from there today. So Tam, I'm
Speaker 1: going to read the first one.
Speaker 2: This is from serious business, from our discord and pretty
Speaker 2: much everywhere, to be honest. Bonus question, this bonus question.
Speaker 1: Okay, Maria asked another question last week.
Speaker 2: All right, right right, scones jam or cream? First, my
Speaker 2: fellow Brits will need to explain this one and the
Speaker 2: implication for one's character based on their answer.
Speaker 3: Quick question before you guys answer that. So Tomorrow said scone? Lucy,
Speaker 3: how do you pronounce it?
Speaker 1: Scne?
Speaker 3: You say scone? Which one is more posh?
Speaker 1: Tam, is this sc scone?
Speaker 2: That's that's ironic because I literally never eat scones, so
Speaker 2: I cannot answer this like if I eat a scone,
Speaker 2: I will almost will. I have never put jam or
Speaker 2: cream on a scone to.
Speaker 1: Eat it, so I've only ever done that in the
Speaker 1: context of I find it very like heartwarming in a
Speaker 1: way that you come to America and you call it
Speaker 1: and they call it high tea, because back in the
Speaker 1: UK we just call it afternoon tea. I have had
Speaker 1: it in you know, some nice places like Betty's in
Speaker 1: York is very good for afternoon tea. With regard to
Speaker 1: the Scone debate, people, yeah, very like, it's very very serious.
Speaker 1: In the UK, what I do is actually a cheat.
Speaker 1: I put jam on one side and then I put
Speaker 1: cream on the other, mash them together.
Speaker 2: I get Ski fruit yogurt and then get a packet
Speaker 2: of some vinegar crisps and then crush the crisps and
Speaker 2: put it in the yogurt and then eat that. Because
Speaker 2: that's the kind of trash monster that's what I used
Speaker 2: to do for tea, Like monstrous shit like that. Like
Speaker 2: I'm not eating posh food. I'm just looking at whatever
Speaker 2: we could afford and smashing it together to see what
Speaker 2: I could create. Top.
Speaker 3: Let's smash it.
Speaker 1: Let's smash it.
Speaker 3: So you know, we don't eat a lot of scones.
Speaker 3: I would say I've had them, but I'll say this,
Speaker 3: I don't put jam on my toast. I just do butter.
Speaker 3: I'm a big butter fiend, only butter, so.
Speaker 1: I also very much enjoyed butter. But I also have
Speaker 1: high cholesterol.
Speaker 3: So we're gonna Oh dude, I'm gonna have high cholesterol.
Speaker 3: I have some seriously disgusting I'm.
Speaker 1: Disgusted I have I have genetically high cholesterol from both
Speaker 1: sides of my family. So shout out to my parents.
Speaker 2: Eating butter because.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do this. Oh do you?
Speaker 3: Are you one of those people that's like eating just
Speaker 3: like butter straight?
Speaker 2: Just just get a block of butter, open it like
Speaker 2: it's a chocolate bar, and just eat the entire thing.
Speaker 2: That is that my teenage.
Speaker 1: Years because revealed this to us.
Speaker 2: You can absolutely crush internal sadness by eating entire block
Speaker 2: of butter.
Speaker 1: We were having dinner at we were at games Com. Hey,
Speaker 1: you know it's Games Come Week? What are little Games
Speaker 1: Come throw back? We were having dinner at that steak
Speaker 1: restaurant opposite at the Dorrit And I don't know how
Speaker 1: this came out, but yeah, you told us that story.
Speaker 1: And we were all just sat around the table being like, oh, like,
Speaker 1: we're all just very sad.
Speaker 2: Eating alive is not a good idea. I used to
Speaker 2: get loads of chocolates, assorted chocolate bars, put them on
Speaker 2: in one plate and then put them in the microwave
Speaker 2: and melt them all down and just do that rest
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I used to eat it with spoon. I just melted.
Speaker 1: I also used to make so I was very very
Speaker 1: small child. I didn't start growing like.
Speaker 2: Those big childs that exist, No.
Speaker 1: Childs, I didn't. I didn't really grow until I was
Speaker 1: like thirteen. I was and I was always the smallest
Speaker 1: in my class. And then when I went hit about thirteen,
Speaker 1: I just had the most immense growing what do you
Speaker 1: call it, gosper spur, I say, growing.
Speaker 2: Streak, actually killing it with the growing day after day,
Speaker 2: just growing, growing, growing, growing.
Speaker 3: It's just like this insane growing combo.
Speaker 1: And I just would eat. I would make a sandwich
Speaker 1: of salt, vinegar, crisps and kit cat and bits of chicken,
Speaker 1: and I would just eat that, like I would go
Speaker 1: through a disgusting amount of kats.
Speaker 2: Muted. John looked muted himself, and so he's just like
Speaker 2: making motions as if he's eating on which I'm a
Speaker 2: huge fan of white.
Speaker 1: I think it might be actually his mic it.
Speaker 2: Was crackling earlier.
Speaker 3: Yeah, while he's fixing a different question.
Speaker 2: Well, I was going to say another monstrous thing that
Speaker 2: I used to love to do, and occasionally we'll still
Speaker 2: do it. Because sometimes sometimes it reminds me of old times.
Speaker 2: Is I used to get, like I still get get
Speaker 2: peanut butter on one on one slice of bread and
Speaker 2: then chili sauce on the other side. What okay is
Speaker 2: I can't recommend it at all, but sometimes you know,
Speaker 2: you just want to eat something and.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just want to put it altogether. So I'm
Speaker 1: so please write in with your monstrous food creations. Ign
Speaker 1: have just had their drowning stories on the IG and
Speaker 1: UK podcast. We're having monstrous food combinations.
Speaker 2: Please please include the phrase Gordon Tamzy's Hell's Kitchen.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I have like a lot of food of versions,
Speaker 3: so I've never done like that kind of thing, but
Speaker 3: I'm the kind I was the kind of kid who
Speaker 3: would eat the same meal every single day and it
Speaker 3: would too. I still do that. Oh yeah, I still
Speaker 3: do that. Plain buttered noodles, no sauce, like plain vegetables.
Speaker 3: Just yeah, you know, I have dairy with every meal.
Speaker 3: I have just constant dairy.
Speaker 1: When I was a kid. My mom, I don't fault
Speaker 1: over this, she's a very busy lady, single mother. I
Speaker 1: didn't live with my dad, and I would just have
Speaker 1: like essentially like what you'd pick out from a buffet
Speaker 1: for a dinner. I'd have bits of cheese, crackers, cucumber,
Speaker 1: like little like individual salad bits, lettuce, maybe some fish
Speaker 1: fingers which they call fish sticks here that I discovered,
Speaker 1: and just like little random bits that would never really
Speaker 1: a complete meal. And so I feel like that's really
Speaker 1: not set me up in goodstead for adulthood.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm I'm horrible. I don't know how to
Speaker 3: cook meat. I was a vegetarian by pure just because
Speaker 3: I hated eating meat for ten years. I had my
Speaker 3: first cheeseburger at seventeen years old. I was in an
Speaker 3: out burger and then I was like, WHOA, why haven't
Speaker 3: I been eating these? And it's because my dad didn't
Speaker 3: season chicken. I love you, dad, He's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can. Now you have to tell us one
Speaker 2: horrid thing.
Speaker 4: That you eat, one horrid thing that I eat, or
Speaker 4: you used to eat.
Speaker 2: As a child. Oh man, damn. Joan Lucas clean. He
Speaker 2: had an impeccable diet all his life.
Speaker 4: The only this isn't bad, But I just remember that
Speaker 4: I have this very vivid memory. This is like not
Speaker 4: it's actually the opposite. I wanted as a kid. I
Speaker 4: was like four, and I told my mom, Mom, I
Speaker 4: want to have a salad, and I want to and
Speaker 4: I specifically wanted a salad. It was like seven o'clock
Speaker 4: at night and and I wanted to go eat it
Speaker 4: in the back porch and it's like pitch black and
Speaker 4: like turn the light on. So she like made me
Speaker 4: this salad. And then I went out and I like
Speaker 4: sat down the complete darkness with all like the porch
Speaker 4: light and I and I ate like two bites of
Speaker 4: the salad and then said no, I hate this. And
Speaker 4: then I went back inside and I said, sorry, Mom,
Speaker 4: I don't like the salad.
Speaker 2: I love that you kind of gave yourself, like you
Speaker 2: put in a college try into that, like you you
Speaker 2: basically gave yourself sensory deprivation to try and give this
Speaker 2: salad the best shot.
Speaker 4: I wanted to like have like a unique experience, like
Speaker 4: a salad experience.
Speaker 2: I would I would also give any amount of money
Speaker 2: to be like just watch a replay of you walking
Speaker 2: up your mom and going, mother, I want the salad.
Speaker 1: I like a salad. Please, Oh my god, all right,
Speaker 1: let's very quickly do this last question. Uh John, look
Speaker 1: you're back. Yes, I'll give this one of you.
Speaker 4: Sure, I definitely have the sheet open up.
Speaker 1: I'm I can drop it in zoom too.
Speaker 4: I can find it. I can find it. I'm totally
Speaker 4: on top of thinks today.
Speaker 3: I used to just eat peanut butter sandwich, one piece
Speaker 3: of bread folded only peanut butter, no jelly. That's my
Speaker 3: last one.
Speaker 1: I could really go for that. I've become really big
Speaker 1: into peanut butter peanut all right?
Speaker 4: Which question is it?
Speaker 1: Second one down from mister Footus yesterday.
Speaker 3: Which wants just a corrective fetus yesterday.
Speaker 4: Mister Footus yesterday says, what is your proudest moment in
Speaker 4: competitive gaming like PvP types of games, the things you
Speaker 4: brag about to everyone you did once?
Speaker 1: I I have one that's the thing that I brag
Speaker 1: about for the Office serieson because it's so shit. It's
Speaker 1: the time I'm gonna play the game watch you one
Speaker 1: that I'm still from you.
Speaker 3: So there there are ship this.
Speaker 1: Ship that I love doing in Overwatch, and one of
Speaker 1: them is unintentionally stealing to More's playing games because he
Speaker 1: always sets me up with like a really good czarreal
Speaker 1: and then I as Diva or junker out or someone
Speaker 1: just steal playing the game. But one time I got
Speaker 1: a play of I was playing a soldier on Route
Speaker 1: sixty six, and the play of the game is me
Speaker 1: immediately dying, then being rest by a mercy and then
Speaker 1: I just get one kill. But like the kill cam
Speaker 1: is so bad because I'm clearly disoriented from being ressed
Speaker 1: and I wasn't prepared for it, so I'm just like
Speaker 1: just pray and pray and accidentally get a kill. But
Speaker 1: I think that kill was a parah who was alting,
Speaker 1: so that's why. But other than that, there was a
Speaker 1: phase where we would play on PC where I players
Speaker 1: may and there was a one night in particular where
Speaker 1: Town was playing a lot as Ryan Hart and he
Speaker 1: would charge or he would use his alt and I
Speaker 1: would accidentally keep putting my wal up and just immediately.
Speaker 2: Blocking just every pin I went for. There was just
Speaker 2: a lucy wall right in front of me every second,
Speaker 2: to the point where I was like, I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: play someone else.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But my actual like thing that I'm proud of
Speaker 1: in competitive gaming is like, one of the very first
Speaker 1: times I've played Somber, I had the most incredible game.
Speaker 1: I've got a thirty six player kill streak. I got
Speaker 1: played the game by like using my alt and I
Speaker 1: think five people and I literally just went. I will
Speaker 1: never play Somber again because I will never reach these
Speaker 1: highs PC I play on console.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to talk about that one Brigida.
Speaker 1: Match, oh the time I got one hundred percent kill
Speaker 1: participation because Brigita was technically broken for a while. But
Speaker 1: I will take it. That's mine.
Speaker 2: I don't have I mean, I can't remember. Not any
Speaker 2: of that spring to my Like. I've beaten a few
Speaker 2: people at a street Fighter using one hand, which is
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: I do have a picture of you playing I think
Speaker 1: a street Fighter producer with one hand. Yeah, which was
Speaker 1: very good, man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good I'm like scratching my chin
Speaker 2: with one hand and like playing street Fighter with the other.
Speaker 2: And the only reason I know how to do that
Speaker 2: is because Seth Killian did it for a while. He's
Speaker 2: known for playing one handed. So I'll try that. And
Speaker 2: I did that for a really long time, and now
Speaker 2: I have RSI in my hands.
Speaker 1: Callie about you, guys.
Speaker 3: I The other night I was playing Siege with Matt
Speaker 3: and Jake and I had a really good round and
Speaker 3: Jake said, WHOA where did that round come from?
Speaker 2: Wow, you guys are playing Siege. I've got Siege as
Speaker 2: well now.
Speaker 3: No. Actually, though I was at the Pokemon World Championships
Speaker 3: that go every year.
Speaker 1: I was really excited to go.
Speaker 3: This year, I was going to be in London, so
Speaker 3: that was a big bummer. But it's always like around
Speaker 3: my birthday too. Anyway, it was the Pokemon World Championships
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, I think it was for
Speaker 3: it was before Ultrason and Ultramoons a couple of years ago,
Speaker 3: and those games introduced Battle Royale, and it was a
Speaker 3: four player like like one v one v one v
Speaker 3: one situation where you were trying to get the most
Speaker 3: knockouts and the least knockouts on your Pokemon. You have
Speaker 3: three Pokemon, and the game like the challenges like figuring
Speaker 3: out do I attack this Pokemon or am I weakening
Speaker 3: it soone slower Pokemon can like get the kill on it.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of there was like a lot
Speaker 3: of like interesting strategical depth that I really liked. But
Speaker 3: it's not like an actual competitive mode. So I was
Speaker 3: playing a pickup match like a pickup tournament and the
Speaker 3: in like the state, like the what's it called convention center?
Speaker 3: That's not a coliseum? Wow, sounds more dramatic and cool
Speaker 3: when I say it's a coliseum. It is a convention center.
Speaker 3: And I came in second place with my team beaten
Speaker 3: only by a Japanese man. However, a lot of children
Speaker 3: were playing, but some of those children were cheating, so
Speaker 3: I still think it was a big achievement and I
Speaker 3: could play competitively if I really put my mind to it.
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say some of those
Speaker 2: children were Japanese men.
Speaker 3: Some of them were using hack to Pokemon and their
Speaker 3: dad was like, here's your charger, sweetie, And I was like,
Speaker 3: your child's a witch.
Speaker 4: I used to be really really into the multiplayer for
Speaker 4: the Uncharted games like two and three, Like I played
Speaker 4: those like all the time, Like I went and went
Speaker 4: to the Subway and got the thirty day month or
Speaker 4: access to Uncharted three's multiplayer, which, for some reason, I
Speaker 4: still remember that as a promotional thing. If you've never
Speaker 4: seen it, go look up the commercial for it, because
Speaker 4: it's like Nathan Drake, It's like a scene from Uncharted three,
Speaker 4: but they like rendered like a subway sandwich and drink
Speaker 4: in his hand, and it's like Nathan Nolan North being like, hey,
Speaker 4: get this and you can hang out with me and
Speaker 4: get a subway sandwich. It's like, really good.
Speaker 2: Excuse me for a second. On charged Drake's footnot thank you.
Speaker 1: There it is there, It is, it is.
Speaker 4: But a couple of years ago, I was just like,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm gonna I kind of want to play
Speaker 4: Uncharted two multiplayer and it's like I pulled out the
Speaker 4: PS three and like tried to get into a match,
Speaker 4: and it took it took like must have been like
Speaker 4: half an hour to get in because like there is
Speaker 4: only like one match available, and it was like all
Speaker 4: the people there were like the highest rank possible, and
Speaker 4: like I guess, like that's all they do is play it.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh, I'm probably gonna have a
Speaker 4: real bad time. I want to buy twenty kills and
Speaker 4: I was like, still got it. It's like all right,
Speaker 4: I'm good. I don't need to play this over again
Speaker 4: and then to shut down the service so I can't.
Speaker 2: Unfortunately like that, John Luke, guys, gone shut down, shut down.
Speaker 1: All right. Well, thank you everyone for listening to episode
Speaker 1: fifty six of Games after Dog, Let's go around the room. Tim,
Speaker 1: why can people find you what you're working on?
Speaker 2: I'm on Twitter tomorrow. Hey, you can find me there
Speaker 2: doing bad tweets. I'm working on Generation Next with Lucy.
Speaker 2: I pot up the interview for Gotham Nights. There's probably
Speaker 2: some other things I'm working on.
Speaker 1: You.
Speaker 2: I just cannot remember because this week has been one
Speaker 2: year and.
Speaker 1: It's only Wednesday. John, good about you?
Speaker 4: Find me at john Sake. I'm doing more of those
Speaker 4: cyberpunk lore videos with Jake. Hopefully the next one will
Speaker 4: be up soon. It's about Adam Smasher, who sounds like
Speaker 4: a d list superhero but he's actually a cyborg.
Speaker 2: Sounds like a h so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I look forward to that.
Speaker 1: Kelly, what about you?
Speaker 3: You can find me on Twitter at Inky Dogico I
Speaker 3: n K I d O j I K k oh.
Speaker 3: I'm also doing bad and spicy tweets. I'm losing followers
Speaker 3: by the thousands.
Speaker 4: Your tweet today was excellent.
Speaker 1: Yeah it was bigs.
Speaker 3: I had fun. I tested it on some people before
Speaker 3: I tweeted it. Anyway, I'm working on uh, you know,
Speaker 3: editing reviews, so continue to read gamespots wonderful reviews. There's
Speaker 3: a lot happening. We have a lot of sports games
Speaker 3: coming out right about now in the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 3: We're looking at stuff like Avengers and others like like tomorrow.
Speaker 3: I am also very burnt out, even though it's only Wednesday.
Speaker 3: But there is a lot, like a lot of reviews.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at a my calendar. So please support this
Speaker 3: and you can catch me on some games comps you
Speaker 3: probably already did at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're doing another one. Oh yeah, we are
Speaker 1: posial and you can find me onto it early James Games,
Speaker 1: I'm doing Generation Next with Tam and Jordan, and this
Speaker 1: week we have special guests Michael Hyam telling us about
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