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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and we are live here today with Jack Sarfai.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Hard Trews Podcast with Ashon Forbes. Today

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<v Speaker 1>my guest is doctor Jack Sarfai, legendary physicist who's an

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<v Speaker 1>author and author of multiple scientific papers advancing the concepts

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<v Speaker 1>of quantum mechanics and discovering the secrets of consciousness. Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Jack Sarfadi, thank you very much for being here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice to be here with you. So I did, David,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't agree about your what does that think it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that disappeared. Maybe it disappeared. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes three seven zero videos. Yeah, we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about these later.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we talked about that later.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Let's jump in though, let's get right into the politics.

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<v Speaker 1>I know everybody wants to hear about the politics here today,

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<v Speaker 1>So what are your political thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Jack, Okay, I just uh, I want I

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<v Speaker 2>want everybody to know about this important new book by

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<v Speaker 2>my friend. My friend and we're almost brothers. We know

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Half is fifteen years Oh my god, how

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<v Speaker 2>long is it? Almost fifty years? Probably fifty years? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Savage and I mean basically we're in great danger,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the America. I believe is now a communist country.

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<v Speaker 2>We are under communist domination. The Democrat Party is not

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<v Speaker 2>the Democrat Party of Harry Truman. I remember World War Two.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was born in nineteen thirty nine, so

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I remember Harry Truman very well. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like five six seven years old. I remember Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember them playing the piano. I remember getting pissed off.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Harry getting pissed off or somebody and somebody from

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Times, some ship had from the New

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<v Speaker 2>York Times that looked with a piece of crap propaganda thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it was better back then, yeh and some and

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<v Speaker 2>this this guy, this guy, a columnist is something from

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times, forget his name. He criticized his daughter's

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<v Speaker 2>piano playing, and true and just wanted a punch him

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<v Speaker 2>in the nose. Is the president of United States. He's

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<v Speaker 2>a character. So everybody like, I mean, I like Harry Truman.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and everybody loved f the

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<v Speaker 2>r though found the sucking battle that wasn't so good

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<v Speaker 2>later on, but uh, yeah, we're all very patriotic and

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<v Speaker 2>uh and the uh and and I remember of course

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<v Speaker 2>jfk Yeah, when he was killed. Uh, but the Democrat

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<v Speaker 2>Party today is not the Democrat Party uh before. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>uh John F. Kennedy would be considered, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a right wing terrorist by the communists in the White House.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's getting bad. I mean that we

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<v Speaker 2>had the fbibi is knocking on people's doors for what

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<v Speaker 2>they're posting on social networks. It's the saucing.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say to the people, Let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is a fascist. How would you respond to those

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of claims?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now you have to understand something. Everybody who says

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<v Speaker 2>Trump is a fascist, they're the fascist. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is the playbook. I forget the guy's name, Olinsky, Salolensky,

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<v Speaker 2>who Hillary Clinton was like a protege, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>deputy of Salinsky and in sala Olinsky in his rules

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<v Speaker 2>for radicals on the sixties. And I was part of

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<v Speaker 2>that whole thing, and I was brought up, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I was with all the lefties. All my friend's parents

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<v Speaker 2>were communists, were in the thirties. They were you know,

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<v Speaker 2>card carrying communists literally, you know, like the Rosenbergs, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>things like that. So uh, Liskey says, accuse your opponent

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<v Speaker 2>of what you were guilty of projection. The fascist's a

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<v Speaker 2>fascist they're putting they're putting was it John Eastman? They're

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<v Speaker 2>putting him in jail for what? And Hunter Biden walks like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like he's the son of the mafioso, Hunter,

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<v Speaker 2>the crack addict, the piece of shit pedophile.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say the people that they're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>they're protecting democracy by you know, arresting people, they're threatening it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're doing just the opposite, just what I said, just

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<v Speaker 2>the opposite. You read George Orwell nineteen eighty four. That's

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<v Speaker 2>where we're in. We're in Oceania right now. They're the

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<v Speaker 2>Ministry of Truth, Okay. And if people want to ask me,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I can provide all kinds of details. I

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<v Speaker 2>was part of it. I grew up in this thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I might you know, with like Bernie Sands,

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<v Speaker 2>those people New York City. Yeah, I was part of

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<v Speaker 2>the I mean I was the New York Times. They

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<v Speaker 2>called me the counter cultural physicists the New York Times

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<v Speaker 2>back in the sixties, you know, and they look at

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<v Speaker 2>how the hippie saved physics. I was you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>went to an IVY eating school, was in the Some

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<v Speaker 2>Freedom Party, helped create the Peace and Freedom Party. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>call in San Diego. Uh who's the guy? Yeah? It

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<v Speaker 2>was well getting my Biden maybe four years old? Right, so,

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<v Speaker 2>uh who's the who's that black woman with? It'll be

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<v Speaker 2>all right? I don't want to freeze McDonald.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying that there's kind of a propaganda or

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<v Speaker 1>information war going on right now? When you say that

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<v Speaker 1>we're in World War three right now? A?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? What you're kidding me? Right? I mean you're being

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<v Speaker 2>You're not saying it's strong enough that there isn't. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean it's obvious that there is. Right, you're being sarcastic,

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<v Speaker 2>I think, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to try to press you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit on your convictions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So what would you say though, the people that say

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you know, we need to censor misinformation and

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<v Speaker 1>disinformation because that's harmful to people. What would you say

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<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Well, you know that's first on that they are

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<v Speaker 2>the enemies, they are the real enemies, and that they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're they're trying to destroy the Constitution in the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>That's youah, that destroying the first Amendment amendment. They want

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<v Speaker 2>to of course destroy the second Amendment, but that's the

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<v Speaker 2>first amendment. But let me just uh quote a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit from Michaels Michael's book. Uh just read the let

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<v Speaker 2>me just read this some of the chapter headings. Get

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<v Speaker 2>an idea. He says, the Civil war is here, the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden Baton switched, the leftist insurgency, Stalinists Biden, the new Kulux,

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<v Speaker 2>the real armed insurrection of post constitutional society. In any case, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>if you go on my x dot com twitter feed,

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<v Speaker 2>I put in some important excerpts from this book, and

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<v Speaker 2>actually people people in live stream in the chat, they

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<v Speaker 2>could look on my twitters team and ask questions based

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<v Speaker 2>on what I you know, posted here. So, okay, let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's continue.

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<v Speaker 1>So what do you think Do you think that there's

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign influence in our government? Would you say? Or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think it's mostly just from our own our

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<v Speaker 1>own officials.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the enemy within. It's it's not glad of me

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<v Speaker 2>at Putin. That's bullshit. That next question, Yeah, no, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not glad to be people. First of all, let me

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<v Speaker 2>explain something. Gladimir Putin is not the enemy of the

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<v Speaker 2>United States. The enemy of the United States are the

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<v Speaker 2>people sitting in the White House right now and people

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<v Speaker 2>are you know, they're the real the enemy within.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think they're the enemies themselves from their own

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<v Speaker 1>mindset or do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think, of course that's not of course, of course that

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<v Speaker 2>they're all brainwashed. They're mostly brainwa if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>what may be? Okay, listen, half the country, half of

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<v Speaker 2>the United States, are so crazy, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the people in the world, I mean all that. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean mainly the Democrats, not all Democrats. I mean, I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be very happy with RFK. I'd be happy with RFK. You.

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<v Speaker 2>I may not agree with everything RFK Junior says, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's an intelligent man. He's an honest man. He says

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<v Speaker 2>what he thinks, and he's risking his life, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the country. He's a real patriot. Yeah. I may

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<v Speaker 2>not agree with everything he says about COVID. I'm not sure, Glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a doctor. I don't involve myself in the

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<v Speaker 2>COVID controversy because I know the limits of my own expertise,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's not one of them. Yeah, I talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the physics. Okay, uh So Okay, so I asked me

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<v Speaker 2>a question, Oh, who's the enemy? So, okay, Russia, Okay, Russia,

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<v Speaker 2>Modern Russia is not the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union

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<v Speaker 2>was a legitimate enemy. Okay, they were gentlemen. But Vladimir

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<v Speaker 2>Putin is that Stalin. He's not Hitler. Anybody says Putin

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<v Speaker 2>is Hitler is either very stupid and very ignorant. It

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, has no

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<v Speaker 2>idea of the history of anything, or is does know

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<v Speaker 2>and is a liar as an evil liar, lying bastard.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you see the interview between Putin and Tucker Carlson.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I saw it. Thoughts on that it was

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<v Speaker 2>it was great. I mean, okay, I agree on that interview.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with Scott Ritter's analysis of the interview that

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<v Speaker 2>Tucker did not really do his homework. I mean, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the time that he says, look, who's a schmuck?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I mean, you've got to understand something. The

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<v Speaker 2>Russians in general, the people in charge in Russia, very

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<v Speaker 2>smart people. They know their history, they have a long view. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he's a sit well on the old KGB, serious persons,

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<v Speaker 2>our people are idiots in comparison. It's like they're paying

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<v Speaker 2>you know that they're playing what four dimensional chess and

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<v Speaker 2>uh Biden can't even figure out tic tac toe, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>well what I mean, Biden, I feel sordo. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>a crime. By the reason, Biden is staying in power

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<v Speaker 2>because Biden knows that if Trump gets back in, Trump

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<v Speaker 2>will do to Biden what Biden's doing to Trump. Lawfare, right, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, pendulum as other way, right, Yeah, it'll.

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<v Speaker 2>Go the other way. And the point is Biden really

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<v Speaker 2>has has committed crimes. Ye Trump. Trump hasn't done anything really,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean all the same with the fraud, with the

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<v Speaker 2>with inflating the uh the value of Mara Lago and Trump,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever the hell that is. First of they all do

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<v Speaker 2>it now and and nobody was hurt by it. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>was defrauded. Everybody made money, The bank's made money. Plus

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<v Speaker 2>there's a disclaim. There's a disclaimer in the contract that

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when Trump or any other real estate person,

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know, does try to get alone, there's always

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<v Speaker 2>a caveat, and the bank does their own evaluation. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't depend on that. So this is all bullshit. It's

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<v Speaker 2>all like it's a Stolidus. It's right out of Stalin

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<v Speaker 2>that a republic. Yeah, oh yeah, John Stewart see that,

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<v Speaker 2>that asshole from the CNN. He's a he's a piece

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<v Speaker 2>of ship man. They're all piece of ship. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>well listen, keep going, Yeah what is that? What the

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<v Speaker 2>actor DeNiro? Well, I like, you know, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>come from the same good as DeNiro. We're about the

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<v Speaker 2>same age actually, and actually I used to hang out

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<v Speaker 2>with Francis sport Copo, you know, when he's doing The

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<v Speaker 2>Godfather all that stuff. So yeah, yeah, how de Niro

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<v Speaker 2>comes on about Donald Trump, you know, being an evil bastard? Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>de Niro, you and I we should you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>being den You want you want to you want to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to talk good fellas. You want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>good fellas. I grew up in Flatbush the fifties. My grandfather,

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<v Speaker 2>my grandfather was a friend of Sam Cohen. Right, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you want to talk good fellas. I'll talk good fellas.

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<v Speaker 2>It's okay, right, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you're doing great. I like it. So, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the Vladimir Putin interview, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of aspects of that want to discussed with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>one will segue into our next conversation. The first is

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think about the whole question about the

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't necessarily cost beneficial to get into a propaganda war

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<v Speaker 1>with the United States. You know, you say that the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian people are you know, their government officials are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot smarter than ours. How you reconcile that with the

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<v Speaker 1>idea that United States potentially has a better propaganda apparatus

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<v Speaker 1>or more control over the media than Russia does. And

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<v Speaker 1>do you agree with that assessment?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know what the question is a little

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<v Speaker 2>own propaganda? Sure, it doesn't control the Russian, doesn't control

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<v Speaker 2>the Russian. Okay, does Russia control us?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>I wish they did. Okay, stream, let's spurs up north

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<v Speaker 2>stream by norder to NOI? That was about what's his name? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>The uh you know, the guy Hirschfeld, the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>He said he was gonna blow it up, and he did.

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<v Speaker 2>He blew it up. I mean, Putin's not gonna blow

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<v Speaker 2>up his own pipeline switchers. If he doesn't want the

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody thinks that, oh, well, we we might have or

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<v Speaker 1>seems kind of nonsense.

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<v Speaker 2>So fucking anybody who believes that is that I saw

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Bridge. I mean, that's so fucking stupid.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you be so stupid to think that, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that's idiously.

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<v Speaker 1>What about he's keep going, sir, Sorry, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think about Put's claims about super soldiers and hypersonic weapons?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you think he's talking about that so openly?

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<v Speaker 2>That's all true? Oh well, that's all true. Yeah, In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>we have a super soldier program here. I fact, I

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<v Speaker 2>I this this guy, this, this guy who I know

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<v Speaker 2>who is one of those super soldiers. He's genetically modified. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we've had that that sawt in the age. Yeah. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, when I was in the nineteen eighties, I

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<v Speaker 2>Central Intelligence Agency, Harold Shipman and ship Chip wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 2>He introduced me to this guy Joe people. These were

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<v Speaker 2>guy the the marine, the marine guy. Thinking that any case,

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<v Speaker 2>where they were doing among other things, they were doing

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<v Speaker 2>the genetic experiments for the super soldiers. Okay, and recently

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<v Speaker 2>I met one of these kids. He is a military Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>his father worked with General Millie Mark Sture.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remember his name, but yeah, I saw when

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, yeah, Mike Michael. And he's clearly and I

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<v Speaker 2>know he knows he is. His mother was his mother

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<v Speaker 2>of that program. She worked at Los Alamos and stuff

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But and he was he's done tours in

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<v Speaker 2>Iraq Afghanistani as a soldier and he uh, he got

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<v Speaker 2>seriously injured. Yeah war. I don't know if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>Really they like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, he's here, you know, he's healed. So he's genetically modified.

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<v Speaker 1>Mental, physical enhancements or both or what.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, definitely he looks a little bit like the bulk,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh. But the point is we know he's ly

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<v Speaker 2>enhanced because of his his healing. You know, they have

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, what am I talking about? What am I

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<v Speaker 2>talking about because my sister in law, I'm not of

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<v Speaker 2>the neighbor. My assister in law works in that area

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing. They have all this new way of quick

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<v Speaker 2>wounding the wounded soldiers that you're thinking, you know, to

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<v Speaker 2>re reconstruct them. So all that's true, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>the Russians, the Russians are you know, I'm sure they're

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<v Speaker 1>So that kind of I think goes to our next point,

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<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, I want to talk to you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit about UFO phenomenon in general.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, okay, I want to spend I want to

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<v Speaker 2>spend most of the time on that, of course, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's a few about about Russia. Let's just say about Russia. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Russia is the natural ally of the United States and Europe,

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<v Speaker 2>their natural ally. There are critanis now are it's not

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<v Speaker 2>the Soviet Union. They're an Orthodox Christian country, but they

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<v Speaker 2>also have a lot of Muslim population. But like the Czech,

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<v Speaker 2>the Czechs, uh Chechia, you know, they're they're now that

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<v Speaker 2>the Chechen soldiers in the Ukrainian Front are very loyal

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<v Speaker 2>to put even though they had problems like twenty years

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<v Speaker 2>or so, Pudin wanted to join NATO. Putin's main interest.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I say, I mean Russia. You know the

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<v Speaker 2>people the Russian government, right, their main interest is too economic,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, economic development, everybody win. Okay, they have no interest.

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<v Speaker 2>Russia has no interest in going beyond, you know, into

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<v Speaker 2>taking over poland establishing the Soviet thing. That's all bullshit,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all. But that's all a big lie that our

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<v Speaker 2>military industrial complex is trying to sell us so they

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<v Speaker 2>can rob over trillion dollars a year from the tax

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<v Speaker 2>pace from your stupid tax payers. You don't understand what

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<v Speaker 2>how you're being fucked over by these greedy vampire assholes.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, they're just trying to take back their you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of the old Soviet lands where the people are

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<v Speaker 1>more ethnically Russian or no.

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<v Speaker 2>I just said they're not trying to do that. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not trying to do that. Who is it? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>He Prutin thinks that the destructed of the Civil Union

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<v Speaker 2>was there was a tragedies. Isn't but he accepts the reality. No,

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<v Speaker 2>pruten will not does not want aggressive NATO. We look

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<v Speaker 2>at crazy Macron, he's gonna send French troops. And you

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<v Speaker 2>look at uh, you know all these people in NATO.

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<v Speaker 2>What's a gens whatever, Stoltenberg whatever name is one of

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi uh s s And yeah, I mean the EU

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<v Speaker 2>today is basically the fourth Frank except now they fucked

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<v Speaker 2>North Stream which buying which America did to them, and

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<v Speaker 2>that the Germans are just their their economy is they're collapsing.

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<v Speaker 2>The Russian economy is doing very well. The sanctions we

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just back. Everything we've done is stupid since Biden

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<v Speaker 2>got it. Okay, so why I didn't quite I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>Putin would rather go to war with nuclear weapons and

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of time, wipe out past, wipe up, destroyed

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<v Speaker 2>the whole fucking thing, you know. Then then let then

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<v Speaker 2>let Ukraine be part of you know, part of NATO

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<v Speaker 2>for the same reason he will not. They and the

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<v Speaker 2>Russians in general, they're all for you know, Russians now

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<v Speaker 2>very unified. The United States has split the two Americans,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the crazy commis, you know, the Progressives and

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<v Speaker 2>all that suff and the Maga, the Trumpies. Right, we're

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<v Speaker 2>in a civil war, actually in an idea live where

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<v Speaker 2>the Cyclogeyeah, we're in a cultural civil war. Very bad here.

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<v Speaker 2>So America's for action. Americas is not united. There is

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<v Speaker 2>at more. When other Russia's were unified, we unified it.

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<v Speaker 2>How did why did why did Putin go into Ukraine?

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<v Speaker 2>Put went into Ukraine because when when the Soviet Union fell,

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<v Speaker 2>the Bush, the first Bush guaranteed that NATO would not

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<v Speaker 2>move east. Okay, and they both the promises. They brought

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<v Speaker 2>the promises. So now allowing allowing Ukraine to have NATO

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<v Speaker 2>weapons on Russia's borders right there, that's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had the we have the Monroe doctrine here, we

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<v Speaker 2>almost had a nuclear war over Cuban missiles. The Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>missiles in Cuba were JFK so pultin today it's just

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<v Speaker 2>doing what JFK did back in nineteen sixty three. Now

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<v Speaker 2>must also say that the reason Kushtyev put the nuclear

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<v Speaker 2>missiles into Cuba was because we had new nuclear missiles

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<v Speaker 2>and Turkey. Seece there was that. You know, so already

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<v Speaker 2>then we were assholes, you know, we were aggressive. So

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<v Speaker 2>so the point, we're not the good guys, America not

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<v Speaker 2>the good guy. I'm an American patriot, I'm not I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not an agent of pood. Okay, I'm an American patriot.

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<v Speaker 2>But I know some history I with these none of

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<v Speaker 2>these assholes in power on our side. They're they're incompetent,

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<v Speaker 2>they're stupid, they don't know history, and they're greedy and

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<v Speaker 2>they're corrupt, every last one of those fuckers, even the

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<v Speaker 2>Republican I'm talking about Republicans and Democrats. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>few good goods on both sides, you know, but in general,

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<v Speaker 2>and but and a lot of them are communists, are

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the neo cons the Victorian Newland Kagan, uh

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<v Speaker 2>all they're all. I mean, I grew up with them.

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<v Speaker 2>I know what they are because I grew up with these.

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<v Speaker 2>They're they're red diaper babies. They're Russian Jews, They're Russian Jews.

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<v Speaker 2>parents told on grandparents told the horror stories, had a

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<v Speaker 2>Cossacks rape that went in and killed all the Jews

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<v Speaker 2>and the shadows there. So they're all crazy. They all

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<v Speaker 2>have a post traumatic stress syndrome. And they were and

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<v Speaker 2>they were all brainwashed by the communist propaganda. In which

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, there's a guy named Uri bezmon Of.

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<v Speaker 2>He would have been my age.

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<v Speaker 2>The Russians killed the old the Soviets killed him. It's

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<v Speaker 2>because what he was is uh Ury Bezmonov's father I think,

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<v Speaker 2>They put him in the KGB. He could have had

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<v Speaker 2>a brilliant career. He could have been like Gladimir Pootney.

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<v Speaker 2>But he went to India. They said the KGV is

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<v Speaker 2>back like in the sixties, yeap, when we're all young.

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<v Speaker 2>And they sent him to India and he got in

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<v Speaker 2>love with the guse got you know, the new age.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe he took asset who house so he affected to

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<v Speaker 2>the CIA. He defected to the CIA back in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty something like that. In any case, your abeztment of

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<v Speaker 2>in the nineteen thirties, how they started this psychological warfare

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<v Speaker 2>operation in the United States, also of course in the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Kim Philbey, all those English guys who became

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<v Speaker 2>all those John la Corey's novels writes about them, and

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<v Speaker 2>most of the minute they went to Lincoln Brigade, they

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<v Speaker 2>all became communists. Plus the free sex, all the new

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<v Speaker 2>age stuff in the sixties, the free sex. That's all

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<v Speaker 2>part of communists, the communist part in the Soviet thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Besmonov explains it back in nineteen eighty four, and he

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<v Speaker 2>describes after four generations, what it's going to be like.

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<v Speaker 2>He describes America today. He describes cancel culture, the whole

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<v Speaker 2>phony with the Black Lives matter, phoning, racist stuff. Everything

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<v Speaker 2>was seeing here, everything that's happening here, Bestoff says, And

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<v Speaker 2>see the problem. The thing is, even though the Soviet

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<v Speaker 2>Union fell, this whole inductor psychological warfare operation, brainwashing operation,

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<v Speaker 2>which was very effective and used these Pavolovian like Manchurian

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<v Speaker 2>candidate stuff. Most of our guys in the White House

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<v Speaker 2>they have been Turnian candidates say certain words and then

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<v Speaker 2>you know, but so it's like the Frankenstein monster, the

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<v Speaker 2>sein monthsters been let loose, and that's all we have

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<v Speaker 2>in this country now. So half it's like a mind virus.

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<v Speaker 2>So half the country and half the country is infected

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<v Speaker 2>with the walking dead. They're like zombies. And I include

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<v Speaker 2>the President of the United States. It's not even you know,

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<v Speaker 2>you look at him three he walks, you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>has he has he has dementia. He has you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's pokingsoning in dementia. Michael Savage, Michael Savage this book.

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<v Speaker 2>Michael has a PhD from Berkeley in biological science, a

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<v Speaker 2>biological science, and he has some medical training. And Michael

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<v Speaker 2>has said, and I've spoken to other medical you look

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<v Speaker 2>just the way find you know, loses his Well sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I do it too, but that's probably normal for eighty

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<v Speaker 2>year olds. But the way he walks his game and

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<v Speaker 2>the way he falls the man, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually senior abuse, senior abuse. So he's a corpse,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean right now. And he's likely to be reelected

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<v Speaker 2>because they're rigging the election. The twenty twenty that was

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<v Speaker 2>an all rigged So.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that do you think that we're this

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<v Speaker 1>is weakened America? Where would you say the power balances

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<v Speaker 1>we can image?

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Russia, okay, Ukraine, Okay, let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>your email.

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<v Speaker 1>Let to clarify real quick. That's what I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say is you've made statements say that you think that

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<v Speaker 1>Russia is like more powerful than NATO, and I wonder yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, yes, right now we're a paper tang and

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<v Speaker 2>we're like the Wizard of Oz behind our curtain. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me explain why, you know what what our weapons are

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<v Speaker 2>ship that the Abrams tank is crap. The F thirty

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<v Speaker 2>five is crap compared to what the Russians had, and

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<v Speaker 2>they've proved it on the battlefield. They're knocking at the

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<v Speaker 2>Abrams tanks. You know why. One of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 2>assholes and it's a death trap. Why what you know

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<v Speaker 2>they put in an aircraft jet engine in that in

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<v Speaker 2>that tank, It runs out a thousand degrees, runs very hot.

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<v Speaker 2>So of course you know the infrared signature gives off

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<v Speaker 2>to the Russians. They see it right away. You can't hut,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's stupid. Of course, it breaks down. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't run for more than eight hours without having to

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<v Speaker 2>be refueled. And it's been breaking down. It's not it's

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<v Speaker 2>not reliable. It's too it's too high tech. And that's

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<v Speaker 2>true of the thirty five, it's true of most of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's true of a lot of our aircraft.

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<v Speaker 2>It's true of our guns, artillery, that stuff with. So

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<v Speaker 2>the point is what Russia has, their equipment is more

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<v Speaker 2>suited for the actual battle conditions with the mud and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>In Ukraine. Okay, they're better equipment and they're more of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we've given all our stuff, a lot of our stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to the Ukrainians. Uh, and of course the

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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine you know, all right, there's all kinds of suffer.

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<v Speaker 2>But the first why did Peoton even go into what?

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<v Speaker 2>Why did February twenty twenty two happen? The reason that

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<v Speaker 2>happened was because Victoria knew of it was one of

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<v Speaker 2>those Russian Jewish people grew up with, you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>neo Khan and uh, and they're really trotsky Ies. They

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<v Speaker 2>grew up in the Communists, but they're more like trotsky

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<v Speaker 2>Ice and they became like conservatives, joined the Reagan thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew, I knew, I knew a lot of each

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<v Speaker 2>guy actually worked them. Yeah, and so she went over

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<v Speaker 2>to in twenty fourteen, uh and arranged the baby, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the revolution to get because the president who was who

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<v Speaker 2>was who was elected, who was you know, honestly elected

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<v Speaker 2>president of Russian there was was friendly with Putin. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>they're corrupt Ukraine. We all had look at the history.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody said, you knew that Ukraine was corrupt. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden, our President of United States, he ye, he

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<v Speaker 2>got money to hunt to Biden as the bagman. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>They're all being bribed by the oligarchs. Okay, So in

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<v Speaker 2>any case, Victoria Newland goes in there, helps arrange the

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<v Speaker 2>coup desta against the pro Putin guy. They get this

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<v Speaker 2>new guy in and you have these stepping bandera Neo

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<v Speaker 2>Nazis who involved the World War Two. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>hit the supporters, they killed a lot of Poles actually,

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<v Speaker 2>and they so they so what they got enough influence

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<v Speaker 2>in the new government. So he had this jew, this

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<v Speaker 2>Russian Jewish woman who hates Russia, you know, aiding in

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<v Speaker 2>a betting the Bandaran Nazis to take over the military

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<v Speaker 2>of Ukraine in twenty fourteen. And what did they do.

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<v Speaker 2>They started artillery attacks on the Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>They killed fourteen thousand Russian civilians over the ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's one of the reasons why Putin, because okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Putin is a nationalist, you know Putin, and you know

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<v Speaker 2>you have to understand Russia and your mother Russia. He

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<v Speaker 2>explained that the soul of Russia. These are you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these the Putin and these guys, they really believe it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they paid, they're Russian paid, they're nationalists, Russian patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>You know they're going there. He goes to the Russian

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<v Speaker 2>Orthodox Church. Now you know he's not a communist. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why the communists here hated him. Not a communist. I

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<v Speaker 2>would go, o, our people wear the communists. But Putin

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<v Speaker 2>this up. So the point one reason Putin went in

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<v Speaker 2>was because to because they were attacking the native Russian

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<v Speaker 2>speakers who want to be part of Russia. And now

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<v Speaker 2>of course they are part of us. And then and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, to have dukes coming in, you know, unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 2>And then so what happened when Zalinsky got in. Zalinski

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<v Speaker 2>got in on a pro peace platform. So what did

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<v Speaker 2>Putin do? Putin sends you know, that column down forty

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<v Speaker 2>miles to care and the Ukrainians they sell me. We

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<v Speaker 2>were training, we had ten years training the Ukrainian army,

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<v Speaker 2>elite army from twenty fourteen, NATO training them. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>the Plutin called it a special military operation. He said

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<v Speaker 2>he didn't send in his best troops, said about ninety thousand,

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<v Speaker 2>mainly you know, conscriptions with old equipment. He didn't send

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<v Speaker 2>it his best tanks, for his best armor. It was

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<v Speaker 2>he called special Military Upper and this was called to

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<v Speaker 2>think you want to say that. Hey, listen, I'm serious.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to talk. So Lensky said right away, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk. This is what happened back then. But the

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<v Speaker 2>idiots today they don't know any any of this basic history.

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<v Speaker 2>That's thumb schmucks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know history. It feels like it. But I would

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<v Speaker 1>ask they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't know anything. Oh no, let me finish. This is

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<v Speaker 2>very important. I gotta find this is got to you

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<v Speaker 2>make a coherent narrative. But yeah, thank you, Yeah, let

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<v Speaker 2>me just take a.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, so this is important. So Zelensky meets Putin

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<v Speaker 2>in istanbul er God the president and even at that point,

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<v Speaker 2>even that even though the primes in Israel was there,

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<v Speaker 2>okay and Putt and they had and they they work

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<v Speaker 2>out a deal, both accepted, both of them. There's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be a peace. Okay, what happens. Boris Johnson who I

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<v Speaker 2>used to like, Boris john becomes Biden's lap dog. Jud Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>our guys buy. They they send Boris Johnson based on

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<v Speaker 2>bull and Boris Johnson says, does a Linski. No, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>don't sign this deal. He sabotaged the deal, said we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna help you. We're gonna because they want to weaken

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<v Speaker 2>the Russians. They see at that point, they thought they

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<v Speaker 2>could beat the Russians. They thought, you know, they thought

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah, they thought they they win. They're a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of aggressive, arrogant, arrogant, stupid schmucks. Okay, they were wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>They were wrong. So Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson has blood

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<v Speaker 2>on his hands. I'm sorry, Boris. You know what I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have friends who are friends, you know, I when

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in London, if the'll be back in there, then

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<v Speaker 2>we loved. I belonged to the club, you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>private clubs where they all go. Okay, I have friends

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<v Speaker 2>who were you know, they played bridge together, that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of thing. It's a small world. Yeah, I've did it

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<v Speaker 2>with g hq Am, I six Am, I all these people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the British, the London Met Commissions of London Met,

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<v Speaker 2>the British Intelligence stuff like that and I worked, I

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<v Speaker 2>worked in you know, there's a whole thing for that.

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<v Speaker 2>But any case, so boris played the lackey and and

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<v Speaker 2>has caused the war along with Victory Newton. So what

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<v Speaker 2>do we have now? We have the flyer. Ukraine is destroyed,

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<v Speaker 2>so that you know, the flower, the youth, at least

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<v Speaker 2>a half a million youth millions have left. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I think Ukraine had like forty million, forty two million

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<v Speaker 2>people before this war started, and now they have like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million or eighteen million if they have that the

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<v Speaker 2>war's loss. They never had a chance, and Russia's got

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<v Speaker 2>We've made Russia stronger. The Russian economy is he's growing

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<v Speaker 2>three and a half percent, and the German economy is

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<v Speaker 2>zero point one percent because because they let our guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean the United States, Joe Biden committed an act

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<v Speaker 2>of war on Germany. He destroyed the German economy. They

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<v Speaker 2>were Germany was getting cheap gas for their gas from Russia.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is stupid. And said, okay, that's segue

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<v Speaker 2>into UF.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I was gonna say to ask you, there is

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of the site of the hypersonics and the

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<v Speaker 1>super soldiers. If we're in the If Russia's in this war,

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<v Speaker 1>why are they not deploying their advanced weapons? What what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on that? And then that can move into well.

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<v Speaker 2>That's obvious that okay, that's not even your suck. You

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's going on, although maybe it's just maybe

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<v Speaker 2>you do. May just be okay, let me explain that

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<v Speaker 2>because there's so many stupid people asking me stupid questions.

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<v Speaker 2>The first of all, I mean, I gotta understand what

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<v Speaker 2>It's a civil war in you credit a right. These

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<v Speaker 2>these people they're fighting, they're like brothers, most of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Put is being very restrained. He's doing the minimum. If

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<v Speaker 2>Pot wanted to do he could have bombed. He could

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<v Speaker 2>have he could he could have turned keV into rubble.

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<v Speaker 2>He could have done that two years ago with his bombers. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't want to do that. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, the fact is, if you go online,

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<v Speaker 2>there are people who There's this guy Alexander Mecurious. He's

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<v Speaker 2>in London, very smart man. He goes to detail what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening on the battle front. There's Douglas McGregor, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>Hope on you know, there's a whole bun. There's Ray mcguffern,

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<v Speaker 2>he's all x CIA guys, Larry Johnson, Colonel Daniel Davis,

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<v Speaker 2>US Army. You go on YouTube and you'll see here.

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<v Speaker 2>You'll get the details of what's really going on in Ukraine.

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<v Speaker 2>Not everything you read in the newspapers. Everything in the

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<v Speaker 2>New York Times about Ukraine, Washington Post, PBS, CNN, even

616
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<v Speaker 2>Factor it's all bullshit. It's all ye, it's all like

617
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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty for it's all propaganda. There's no truth to

618
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.719
<v Speaker 2>anything they're saying, okay, and the opposite is true. So

619
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<v Speaker 2>so Putin has been very restrained and he's doing a

620
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<v Speaker 2>policy what's called aggressive attrition, aggressive attriguy the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't want territory, Well, he'll keep the territory he

622
00:37:19.639 --> 00:37:22.719
<v Speaker 2>has the Eastern Dombas because as the Russia that's now Russia,

623
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<v Speaker 2>that's the buffer zone. Putin is gonna take karcuff and

624
00:37:26.679 --> 00:37:30.280
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna take a Deessa. So Ukraine is now going

625
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<v Speaker 2>to be a rump state without any direct outlet to

626
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:36.960
<v Speaker 2>the black scene. It's anything like that. Uh, the Polish

627
00:37:37.000 --> 00:37:41.719
<v Speaker 2>farmers don't want you know, I mean, Ukraine is destroyed.

628
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<v Speaker 2>What might happen, is that Poland and Lithuania and Hungary,

629
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<v Speaker 2>and I think Slovenia to Romania, Romania, Hungary, Poland Lithuania. Yeah,

630
00:37:53.239 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>they all want pieces of western Ukraine because they used

631
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.760
<v Speaker 2>to be it used to be part of those so

632
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:02.920
<v Speaker 2>they may, you know, they may work at the differ.

633
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<v Speaker 2>There is no more. Ukraine is destroyed. Franis Johnson, Joe Biden,

634
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<v Speaker 2>Victorian Newland, Anthony Blincoln, all these and these idiots, they

635
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>have destroyed Ukraine. It's over. There's no there's no way

636
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<v Speaker 2>Ukraine's ever gonna win this war. And if Macron, if

637
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<v Speaker 2>he would, if native would send in troops, know what's

638
00:38:23.960 --> 00:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna happen to those troops they gonna send in troops.

639
00:38:28.159 --> 00:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Putin said, by the way, you get rid of Putin,

640
00:38:32.960 --> 00:38:36.800
<v Speaker 2>and whoever comes to take replaces, food's gonna be much

641
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<v Speaker 2>worse than boot Let me tell you they're gonna better.

642
00:38:40.199 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 2>You know, Puts keeping everything kind of restrained, okay, compared

643
00:38:44.639 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>to what they're they're ready to do, and they're pissed

644
00:38:47.039 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 2>that they will do it. If Putin wants, Putin can

645
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.159
<v Speaker 2>take a hyposotic missile, and he could, he could pinpoint

646
00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:57.239
<v Speaker 2>it now they're greater accuracy, like twenty meetings, the greater

647
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<v Speaker 2>accuracy he could he can put a hyposotic so in

648
00:39:00.719 --> 00:39:04.960
<v Speaker 2>the Elisia Palace. You know, we're not a dude just

649
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>to He can do it to the Ministry of Defense

650
00:39:07.760 --> 00:39:10.000
<v Speaker 2>in London, he could do it to Uh yeah, you

651
00:39:10.000 --> 00:39:12.159
<v Speaker 2>can do ten Downing Street. He can do to Berlin.

652
00:39:12.239 --> 00:39:14.199
<v Speaker 2>He can do it to He doesn't want to do that.

653
00:39:14.679 --> 00:39:18.719
<v Speaker 2>He could do it and they can't stop him. We

654
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 2>don't have anything anymore.

655
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<v Speaker 1>So do you think not think that we have that

656
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<v Speaker 1>type of technology or even more advanced, if that's what

657
00:39:25.679 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 1>they're saying publicly. Do you think that there might be

658
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<v Speaker 1>even more advanced that they have secret that they're not

659
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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

660
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<v Speaker 2>You think, no, they don't, because you know they don't

661
00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 2>because our organize are stupid. Look at their tanks, looking

662
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:38.400
<v Speaker 2>at their sending all equipment's no good. I mean we

663
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<v Speaker 2>only have Okay, F thirty five was a piece of shit.

664
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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows it's a piece of shit for years. It's

665
00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a total boomnoggle swindle. Only one third of the F

666
00:39:48.719 --> 00:39:52.559
<v Speaker 2>thirty five are even operational, and maybe only about half

667
00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:55.559
<v Speaker 2>an hour do These submarines are operational and look at

668
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<v Speaker 2>the British Navy. The British kid they had the they

669
00:39:58.840 --> 00:40:01.159
<v Speaker 2>had the defensive mini said get his name Sprague or

670
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<v Speaker 2>whatever's got his name, mean something wrong and and they

671
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<v Speaker 2>had they had him on on the on the nuclear

672
00:40:06.679 --> 00:40:09.199
<v Speaker 2>sub the British Navy nuclear sub and they try to

673
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<v Speaker 2>launch you know, the missile and the missile drop that

674
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:15.840
<v Speaker 2>almost hit the submarine that was hit the submarine. The

675
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<v Speaker 2>aircraft carried none of the two aircraft carr that they're

676
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<v Speaker 2>not working. And they had a the Royal Air Force

677
00:40:22.519 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 2>they had a defammission like thirty five typhoon jets because

678
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<v Speaker 2>they don't have the parts for it, they don't have

679
00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.639
<v Speaker 2>the money for it. The British Army is a joke,

680
00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 2>British Armies. It's now seventy two thousand. The whole British

681
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<v Speaker 2>Army would fit in a in a football match, you

682
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<v Speaker 2>know of the soccer matches that they have, you know

683
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<v Speaker 2>in London. There the entire British Army, you know, Putin

684
00:40:42.880 --> 00:40:45.679
<v Speaker 2>has I think by the summer he's gonna have over

685
00:40:45.719 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>two million, like over two million men under arms. Two million.

686
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:52.519
<v Speaker 2>They already have over a million. He has like seven

687
00:40:52.480 --> 00:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>and fifty thousand reserve force is ready to you know,

688
00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 2>move into uh into Ukraine if needed.

689
00:41:01.880 --> 00:41:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Though, if you have capabilities use drones and drop missiles

690
00:41:04.760 --> 00:41:07.000
<v Speaker 1>on people like we did in Iraq and Syria, it

691
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<v Speaker 1>feels like you don't need.

692
00:41:08.480 --> 00:41:10.719
<v Speaker 2>Now, you see. That's yeah, But you don't know ship,

693
00:41:10.880 --> 00:41:13.960
<v Speaker 2>you don't know anything. Then you don't know nothing about it.

694
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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you them. When I went to Cornell.

695
00:41:16.800 --> 00:41:20.519
<v Speaker 2>When I went to Cornell nineteen fifties, late nineteen fifties,

696
00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:25.880
<v Speaker 2>we all had to take military. We had a reserve offices,

697
00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:29.480
<v Speaker 2>training corps. We had to do that, okay, and I

698
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:32.280
<v Speaker 2>had courses in military, you know, I had some basic

699
00:41:32.320 --> 00:41:34.519
<v Speaker 2>elementary things about it. To tell your bombing. We had

700
00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.599
<v Speaker 2>to wipe out bombing that was in the Air Force,

701
00:41:36.800 --> 00:41:41.360
<v Speaker 2>r at DC and civil apatrol before that. And and

702
00:41:41.400 --> 00:41:46.079
<v Speaker 2>the answer is no. First of all, what's been proven

703
00:41:46.280 --> 00:41:50.079
<v Speaker 2>by the the fact that the Russians, even when they

704
00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 2>were weak at the beginning the week, you know, first

705
00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:57.119
<v Speaker 2>year the week, they were able to wipe out the

706
00:41:57.800 --> 00:42:01.599
<v Speaker 2>Ukrainian the best forces that Ukraine had, who had trained

707
00:42:01.599 --> 00:42:05.760
<v Speaker 2>for ten years by NATO. Our training is no good,

708
00:42:05.800 --> 00:42:09.440
<v Speaker 2>you know why, because our army is no good anymore?

709
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:12.079
<v Speaker 2>Why is our army no good? And he one, I'll

710
00:42:12.079 --> 00:42:16.800
<v Speaker 2>tell you exactly why, because we never Okay, who are we?

711
00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:22.440
<v Speaker 2>Who have we been fighting since Vietnam? We're fighting poor

712
00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:28.119
<v Speaker 2>people who do not have an air force. They don't

713
00:42:28.119 --> 00:42:30.639
<v Speaker 2>have tanks, they're not a model, they don't have real artillery.

714
00:42:31.239 --> 00:42:34.519
<v Speaker 2>What did Taliban have we who are fighting in Afghanistan? Iraq? Oh?

715
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, what do you call it? Oh? Wait?

716
00:42:37.800 --> 00:42:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Saddam in Iraq? He had some stuff. But we had

717
00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a good army back then under Reagan and Bush, the

718
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.800
<v Speaker 2>first Bush. We had a powerful army then. And and

719
00:42:47.840 --> 00:42:50.599
<v Speaker 2>in fact, Douglas McGregor who was in that campaign, and

720
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.079
<v Speaker 2>Colonel Davis they talk about, you know, we had a

721
00:42:53.079 --> 00:42:56.440
<v Speaker 2>good army. But as soon as as soon as Clinton

722
00:42:56.519 --> 00:43:02.599
<v Speaker 2>got in, Clinton destroyed the defense of the United States.

723
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Why to Clinton destroyed the defense? Because Hillary Clinton is white?

724
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Is a communist stage. It's like adventure, you know, she

725
00:43:09.159 --> 00:43:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Saul Linsky see Victoria Noland. Okay, we destroyed. And also

726
00:43:14.880 --> 00:43:19.000
<v Speaker 2>what's happened is that our four star generals, and like

727
00:43:19.039 --> 00:43:23.000
<v Speaker 2>our current Secretary of Defense, they go as a revolving

728
00:43:23.079 --> 00:43:27.400
<v Speaker 2>door between the defense contractors and the Pentagon. So what

729
00:43:27.519 --> 00:43:31.679
<v Speaker 2>we've done, we've built these high tech weapons which are

730
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.599
<v Speaker 2>too advanced, that require too much Okay, do you don't

731
00:43:35.679 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 2>cars it all? You wouldn't like to have a Ferrari

732
00:43:38.639 --> 00:43:44.440
<v Speaker 2>or a McLaren for gotti a lot of maintenance, right,

733
00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:46.639
<v Speaker 2>and we can't use them on the street. They're men

734
00:43:46.719 --> 00:43:49.760
<v Speaker 2>for a special you know things. So that all our

735
00:43:49.800 --> 00:43:54.360
<v Speaker 2>weapons we have Bagattis, we have Ferraris, McLaren's. We have

736
00:43:54.920 --> 00:43:57.880
<v Speaker 2>the Russians where they have toyotas. I mean in terms

737
00:43:57.920 --> 00:43:59.840
<v Speaker 2>of the you know, this stuff is not in your

738
00:44:00.119 --> 00:44:02.639
<v Speaker 2>Their stuff is much suited. There's stuff works even and

739
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:05.199
<v Speaker 2>break staff like redundant. Have you seen the thing of

740
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:08.559
<v Speaker 2>like the Eighth Air Force in World War Two where

741
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:12.559
<v Speaker 2>they're bombing uh Nazi Germany and they hit you know

742
00:44:12.679 --> 00:44:15.480
<v Speaker 2>that wings fall off, but the planes keep flying because

743
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:19.079
<v Speaker 2>they have enough redundancy. Okay, So the Russian the Russians

744
00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.719
<v Speaker 2>have superior equipment for the actual battlefield conditions, plus the tactics,

745
00:44:23.960 --> 00:44:30.920
<v Speaker 2>the tactics that NATO taught the Ukrainian Army, but tactics

746
00:44:30.920 --> 00:44:33.840
<v Speaker 2>that were not suitable to fight the Russian Army in

747
00:44:33.960 --> 00:44:38.840
<v Speaker 2>the conditions, the land conditions of Ukraine. They were using tactics.

748
00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:41.119
<v Speaker 2>They learned how to fight, you know, the sand niggers

749
00:44:41.480 --> 00:44:43.639
<v Speaker 2>guys in their little tello, the little bit the rifles

750
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.320
<v Speaker 2>and the ie eds they were they were talking. They

751
00:44:46.320 --> 00:44:50.199
<v Speaker 2>were teaching those kinds of tactics against a much lower enemy,

752
00:44:50.400 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 2>that against an enemy like the Russian army where you

753
00:44:53.519 --> 00:44:55.880
<v Speaker 2>know they still have all that Soviet equipment. Okay. The

754
00:44:55.920 --> 00:44:59.320
<v Speaker 2>other thing is the other thing is that's all acose

755
00:44:59.360 --> 00:45:02.199
<v Speaker 2>to Clinton, the first Bill Clinton Okay, started this hold

756
00:45:02.239 --> 00:45:06.800
<v Speaker 2>down with Spiral. What did he do? We went all

757
00:45:06.840 --> 00:45:11.719
<v Speaker 2>on manufacturing off shore of China is all corruption, So

758
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:14.239
<v Speaker 2>we can't we can't make the web. We don't. We

759
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:17.320
<v Speaker 2>can't make enough ammunition to supply your career, and either

760
00:45:17.360 --> 00:45:24.119
<v Speaker 2>can can EU. So we outsourced or manufacturing. But the

761
00:45:24.199 --> 00:45:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Russians they still have a World War two they kept

762
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:31.199
<v Speaker 2>they have all their factories in Siberia, which is too

763
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<v Speaker 2>far away for three. You can't they have all and

764
00:45:35.079 --> 00:45:39.079
<v Speaker 2>they beefed it up. So the Russians, I mean, there

765
00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:42.719
<v Speaker 2>wasn't able to make you like three million artillery shells

766
00:45:42.760 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 2>in year. We can't even make one tenth of that, okay,

767
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:50.519
<v Speaker 2>and then they make yeah, so so the point.

768
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<v Speaker 1>Go ahead, I kind of want to ask tangental question,

769
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<v Speaker 1>trying to translate this more into the UFO side. Do

770
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<v Speaker 1>you think that you have the Russians have a UFO

771
00:45:57.719 --> 00:46:01.320
<v Speaker 1>reverse engineering program? Do you think we have one? Or

772
00:46:01.360 --> 00:46:06.039
<v Speaker 1>advanced science in that respect? You know, all right, technology

773
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:07.719
<v Speaker 1>that's well beyond any of the stuff that we've kind

774
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:08.159
<v Speaker 1>of discussed.

775
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:11.119
<v Speaker 2>Right, well, okay, let's put this way. All right, now

776
00:46:11.159 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get it too. Oh all right, let's let's

777
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:24.039
<v Speaker 2>talk about that. All right. We'll get a little bit

778
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.719
<v Speaker 2>of history here. Who is Jack? Who am I? Who's Jack?

779
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Start fighting? We would say, Oh, Jack is the he

780
00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:36.679
<v Speaker 2>has a cunning quick He's talk some third person. It's great. No,

781
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just talking about who's Jack star fighting? Who am I? Okay?

782
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<v Speaker 2>When I was a kid. When I was a little

783
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:51.559
<v Speaker 2>kid in New York, my grandfather worked for the army, okay,

784
00:46:52.400 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 2>and I was living with my parents were divorced, and

785
00:46:55.679 --> 00:46:57.559
<v Speaker 2>I was eight nine years old. I was living with

786
00:46:57.599 --> 00:47:00.320
<v Speaker 2>my grandparents and my grandfather, I'm working for the army,

787
00:47:01.119 --> 00:47:04.519
<v Speaker 2>and so after school and doing the I used to

788
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.559
<v Speaker 2>go down to where my grandfather worked at the Army

789
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Quartermaster Corps in the Garment District, Manhattan, near the John

790
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:18.079
<v Speaker 2>fourteenth Street around there, garment district, and it just got

791
00:47:18.159 --> 00:47:21.159
<v Speaker 2>of it. And I was like a kid. Yeah, things

792
00:47:21.199 --> 00:47:24.360
<v Speaker 2>are pretty simple back then. And here's this ten eight

793
00:47:24.559 --> 00:47:28.039
<v Speaker 2>ten year old kid. I was able the Army quartermaster

794
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:33.199
<v Speaker 2>call was my playground. Yeah. They had all these laps here.

795
00:47:33.239 --> 00:47:38.639
<v Speaker 2>They had the hot the hot tropical uniforms, cold last

796
00:47:38.760 --> 00:47:41.440
<v Speaker 2>the cold weather uniforms, and and I was I was

797
00:47:41.480 --> 00:47:43.840
<v Speaker 2>given free rent. I was able to like run around whatever.

798
00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:48.639
<v Speaker 2>It was like a playground okay for me. Yeah, I

799
00:47:48.719 --> 00:47:52.719
<v Speaker 2>was like the only kid. And then I would these

800
00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:56.760
<v Speaker 2>army officers would come and talk to me, and I

801
00:47:56.840 --> 00:47:58.239
<v Speaker 2>was a yeah, I was a smart kid. You can

802
00:47:58.239 --> 00:48:01.280
<v Speaker 2>imagine what I was like. Right in science fiction reading

803
00:48:01.320 --> 00:48:04.199
<v Speaker 2>The Astounding the twenty other l Ron Hubbard was, you know,

804
00:48:04.559 --> 00:48:08.239
<v Speaker 2>well these twenty five cent you know Ia Asmov all

805
00:48:08.280 --> 00:48:12.360
<v Speaker 2>that stuff and talking about rockets. And then but years

806
00:48:12.440 --> 00:48:16.599
<v Speaker 2>later to jump forward linked forward a little bit when

807
00:48:16.840 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 2>Colonel Corso, Philip Corso publish his book the day after

808
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<v Speaker 2>Roswell Yah. I opened up the book. It was like

809
00:48:24.960 --> 00:48:29.280
<v Speaker 2>nineteen when was the eighties and nineties, nineteen nineties. I

810
00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.519
<v Speaker 2>opened up the book and I see the photograph of course,

811
00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.800
<v Speaker 2>so and like a recognition, you know, of guys older.

812
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:42.840
<v Speaker 2>And I'm pretty sure that one of the main army

813
00:48:42.880 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 2>officers who are encouraging talking to me about UFO, talking

814
00:48:46.519 --> 00:48:50.480
<v Speaker 2>about flying sauces. These army guys are telling me about

815
00:48:50.519 --> 00:48:53.639
<v Speaker 2>flying sauces back when I was like an eight nine

816
00:48:53.719 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 2>year old kid. Okay, well, I'm a nine year old kid, right,

817
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 2>of course I believe that. You know, I'm driving around

818
00:49:04.159 --> 00:49:06.679
<v Speaker 2>army cars. My grandpa's driving a car just sitting I'm

819
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you so. And but do you understand what

820
00:49:09.920 --> 00:49:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you? Now? This is like two or three

821
00:49:12.039 --> 00:49:15.480
<v Speaker 2>years after after oswell for four years man after forty

822
00:49:15.559 --> 00:49:19.880
<v Speaker 2>nine fifty and and and I who I think is

823
00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:23.519
<v Speaker 2>Colonel for So, somebody like Colonel for So, you know,

824
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.159
<v Speaker 2>encouraging my interest in rockets and and uh you know,

825
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:30.719
<v Speaker 2>science and telling them the flying sauce and stuff like that.

826
00:49:32.360 --> 00:49:34.239
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think the nature UFOs is all about?

827
00:49:34.760 --> 00:49:35.760
<v Speaker 1>What's your opinion?

828
00:49:35.880 --> 00:49:39.280
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, you're jumping, You're you're jumping too fast. There's

829
00:49:39.280 --> 00:49:46.159
<v Speaker 2>a whole history here. Okay. So then I'm in high

830
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:53.800
<v Speaker 2>school in Brooklyn and I get recruited into a special

831
00:49:54.400 --> 00:50:02.119
<v Speaker 2>after school program from Columbia University headed by guy named well,

832
00:50:02.119 --> 00:50:05.880
<v Speaker 2>it was Eugene Eugene big Dermott was. If you look

833
00:50:05.880 --> 00:50:08.280
<v Speaker 2>at who Eugene big Dermott is, he's one of the

834
00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:12.119
<v Speaker 2>founders of Texas Instruments and he was he was actually

835
00:50:12.159 --> 00:50:14.159
<v Speaker 2>from broken and he was a you know, a top

836
00:50:14.199 --> 00:50:16.920
<v Speaker 2>guy in World War two, you know with look a

837
00:50:17.519 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>an m J twelve kind of guy. Just he created

838
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.400
<v Speaker 2>the university, one of the universities of Texas, and you know,

839
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:28.000
<v Speaker 2>it's his money, the Texas Instruments and uh, you know,

840
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 2>a major, a major figure, and so he had this program.

841
00:50:33.679 --> 00:50:38.079
<v Speaker 2>They had this program too, but the super Kid Superkid

842
00:50:38.119 --> 00:50:42.719
<v Speaker 2>program to get these genius kids in math and physics.

843
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:48.320
<v Speaker 2>And they would have they were it's like the X Men,

844
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:50.280
<v Speaker 2>So is it like the X Men, you know with

845
00:50:50.400 --> 00:50:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that movie, but we were. They would test the Inswesty,

846
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 2>if we had psyched, you know that, if we could

847
00:50:55.599 --> 00:50:58.400
<v Speaker 2>do psychic kinesis teleptidy, the doing all that stuff and

848
00:50:58.559 --> 00:51:02.039
<v Speaker 2>encouraging flying sauce, you know, worked on flying so stuff

849
00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 2>like that all through high school, well through high.

850
00:51:05.400 --> 00:51:07.159
<v Speaker 1>School, so they believed it enough to sign you up

851
00:51:07.159 --> 00:51:09.440
<v Speaker 1>and get you involved. Is that what you're saying.

852
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, yeah, not only me, a bunch of kids, other.

853
00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Kids very galler with you as well.

854
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Not there. Ian Jelly's in Israel then, seventy years younger

855
00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:24.599
<v Speaker 2>than me. He's an Israel he was, Okay, he's an Israel. Uh.

856
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.960
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I met Isaac Azamo. I's got parties with

857
00:51:29.000 --> 00:51:33.760
<v Speaker 2>Isaac Gad this group okay, and Iron ran people around,

858
00:51:33.840 --> 00:51:36.960
<v Speaker 2>Iron ran, you know the fountain here and but the point,

859
00:51:37.000 --> 00:51:37.599
<v Speaker 2>here's the point.

860
00:51:37.840 --> 00:51:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

861
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:44.239
<v Speaker 2>So throughout high school and I was, you know, I

862
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:47.960
<v Speaker 2>was skipped in grades. So I graduated high school sixteen

863
00:51:49.800 --> 00:51:54.599
<v Speaker 2>and uh, this this guy Walter the Breen, Uh he

864
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.800
<v Speaker 2>wrote they wrote this. They said they wrote a ten

865
00:51:57.880 --> 00:52:03.639
<v Speaker 2>page report on me on you know, a report which

866
00:52:03.639 --> 00:52:07.599
<v Speaker 2>apparently sent it to MIT, to Cornell, and to University

867
00:52:07.639 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 2>of Chicago. They wanted me to go, Dad, she wanted

868
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>me to go to university for Chicago. Any case I got,

869
00:52:13.119 --> 00:52:17.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, graduate high school, I got scholarships, so all

870
00:52:17.199 --> 00:52:22.079
<v Speaker 2>three to MI, T Cornell, and and use the University

871
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:25.639
<v Speaker 2>of Chicago. But various reasons. I my mother didn't want

872
00:52:25.679 --> 00:52:27.239
<v Speaker 2>me to go too far. I I don't know, but

873
00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>I got more money from Cornell than from MIT, and

874
00:52:31.039 --> 00:52:34.760
<v Speaker 2>my mother didn't want me to go as far as Chicago,

875
00:52:35.119 --> 00:52:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, because I think is only two hundred miles

876
00:52:37.000 --> 00:52:39.960
<v Speaker 2>from New York. So I wound up going to Cornell

877
00:52:41.239 --> 00:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>and the physics department Cornell was all the guys who

878
00:52:44.920 --> 00:52:47.280
<v Speaker 2>built the atomic bomb. Did you see the movie Oppenheimer?

879
00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

880
00:52:47.960 --> 00:52:52.480
<v Speaker 2>I saw, Yeah, Okay, Well, Johann's Beta, Hans Beta, was

881
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:55.159
<v Speaker 2>one of my tutors. He was the head of theoretical

882
00:52:55.199 --> 00:53:00.480
<v Speaker 2>physics at us alabas Phil Morris. Well, the guys, you know,

883
00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:04.039
<v Speaker 2>the old the a team for Oppenheimer. Okay, so those

884
00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.320
<v Speaker 2>are the guys who taught me physics at Cornell and

885
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:10.519
<v Speaker 2>Cornell back then. This is the late nineteen fifties. I'm

886
00:53:10.559 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 2>class of sixty Cornell and of course Ivy League, you know,

887
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Cornell's ninety League school and uh, you know the CIA

888
00:53:19.639 --> 00:53:22.639
<v Speaker 2>recruits from you know, from the Ivy League, especially back then.

889
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:26.239
<v Speaker 2>And uh and also a lot of my professors were

890
00:53:26.239 --> 00:53:30.079
<v Speaker 2>from England. One of my friends were from me and

891
00:53:30.360 --> 00:53:33.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, they connected with the British intelligence so you know,

892
00:53:33.480 --> 00:53:36.960
<v Speaker 2>in fact I had I was actually Gilbert and Sullivan

893
00:53:37.280 --> 00:53:41.840
<v Speaker 2>opera singer into and uh and my voice teacher was

894
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:44.960
<v Speaker 2>was Keith Faukner, who later became Sir Keith Faulkner, but

895
00:53:45.079 --> 00:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>he was a he was like a British Air Force,

896
00:53:49.000 --> 00:53:52.760
<v Speaker 2>British Naval UH officer in World War Two. It's kind

897
00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:55.719
<v Speaker 2>of famous Keith Keith Falkner, any quet, but you know,

898
00:53:55.760 --> 00:54:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I think I was. There's a movie called The Good Shepherd,

899
00:54:00.320 --> 00:54:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Called The Good Shepherd, it's about James Angleton at Yale

900
00:54:04.280 --> 00:54:07.239
<v Speaker 2>in the in the right before World War Two, and

901
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.519
<v Speaker 2>how James Angleton his grandson is a friend of mine, know,

902
00:54:11.599 --> 00:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>his grandson, ok And how James and yeah, he's in

903
00:54:14.800 --> 00:54:19.199
<v Speaker 2>the Gilbert and Sullivan society, Okay, And then the movie

904
00:54:19.280 --> 00:54:21.719
<v Speaker 2>opens up the movie and I think de Niro de

905
00:54:21.800 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>Niro's I think it's in that movie. I think I

906
00:54:23.880 --> 00:54:26.559
<v Speaker 2>think Robert DeNiro is actually in the movie. And Matt

907
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Matt hell but you know that Matt, Yeah, the guy

908
00:54:29.280 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 2>from Harvard. In any case, So the scene opens up

909
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.920
<v Speaker 2>where they're doing a Gilbert and Sullivan and the James

910
00:54:35.960 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 2>Angleton character. He's dressed as a woman because they had

911
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:41.960
<v Speaker 2>the women the only men there Yale nineteen thirty Skull

912
00:54:42.039 --> 00:54:46.360
<v Speaker 2>and Bones, that whole thing, and he's recruited by the

913
00:54:46.360 --> 00:54:53.079
<v Speaker 2>British intelligence helped form the CIA. This is true, based

914
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:57.599
<v Speaker 2>on a true story. Okay, same thing happening, you know,

915
00:54:58.599 --> 00:55:04.320
<v Speaker 2>it's part of that and and so so what happens? Okay,

916
00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:10.000
<v Speaker 2>so various things happen. I I go to uh in

917
00:55:10.440 --> 00:55:15.280
<v Speaker 2>the in nineteen sixty six. I'm with Leerner Heisenberg. You know,

918
00:55:15.480 --> 00:55:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Lenda Heisenberg, was Heisenberg. I'm spending I spent the summer.

919
00:55:21.440 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 2>I spent July I think it was Jiants nineteen sixty

920
00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 2>six with John Archibald Wheeler familiar Heisenberg and some other

921
00:55:28.719 --> 00:55:34.239
<v Speaker 2>people at the Max Poonk Institute in Munich. And in

922
00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Munich only ten sixty twenty years after the World War Two.

923
00:55:39.400 --> 00:55:43.000
<v Speaker 2>You think they took or no, no, wait, just wait.

924
00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:45.679
<v Speaker 2>This is why I don't get there. Okay, but I

925
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:51.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted this and but here with Heisenberg and these guys,

926
00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:56.079
<v Speaker 2>uh and but about general relativity, you know, they didn't

927
00:55:56.079 --> 00:55:58.760
<v Speaker 2>talk about UFOs was I was by way, it's a NATO.

928
00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:01.639
<v Speaker 2>This was a NATO summer school and Nadim Sumer school.

929
00:56:02.800 --> 00:56:07.800
<v Speaker 2>From there, I go over to Her Majesty's Atomic Energy

930
00:56:07.840 --> 00:56:12.199
<v Speaker 2>Research Establishment at Harwell, Okay, which is kind of like

931
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the Lawrence like Los Alamos, you know, but British britt

932
00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:20.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, smaller scale, the British version. And yeah, I

933
00:56:20.559 --> 00:56:27.639
<v Speaker 2>go there and various things happened, and then then what happens? Okay,

934
00:56:27.679 --> 00:56:33.159
<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I'm jumping to Now. I'm then an assistant

935
00:56:33.159 --> 00:56:37.239
<v Speaker 2>professor of physics at San Diego State, which is a

936
00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:42.679
<v Speaker 2>Navy town, Navy town, and you know, Mary patriotic. Is

937
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:47.280
<v Speaker 2>this is like the late nineteen sixties, and we ran

938
00:56:48.280 --> 00:56:52.079
<v Speaker 2>the program of float college education for the US Navy

939
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:55.119
<v Speaker 2>out of San Diego State. Okay, so he used to

940
00:56:55.119 --> 00:56:58.679
<v Speaker 2>go on Navy ships. Is he was on Navy ships.

941
00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.000
<v Speaker 2>And in nineteen seventy now we're getting to UFOs. So

942
00:57:02.199 --> 00:57:07.079
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy one, nineteen seventy one, I was on the

943
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:11.599
<v Speaker 2>uss tykwond Rogo, which is like a small aircraft you know,

944
00:57:11.599 --> 00:57:15.360
<v Speaker 2>it's this old aircraft carrier in the helicopter thing, and

945
00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:19.840
<v Speaker 2>we sailed from San Diego to Pearl Harbor. It was

946
00:57:19.840 --> 00:57:25.480
<v Speaker 2>that on the Tekondo Rogan. Yeah, this was Teikonic seventy one. Yeah,

947
00:57:26.199 --> 00:57:28.280
<v Speaker 2>I forget, well maybe late six I'm not for exactly

948
00:57:28.280 --> 00:57:32.840
<v Speaker 2>window there's a long time regollar. And but while there,

949
00:57:33.440 --> 00:57:39.039
<v Speaker 2>there's this guy the Naval Intelligence sky on board. Yeah,

950
00:57:39.039 --> 00:57:42.360
<v Speaker 2>we we have a physics crib teaching because and so

951
00:57:42.400 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 2>he can and he started talking to me about the UFOs. Yeah.

952
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 2>We're sitting here way on the Pacific Ocean, you know,

953
00:57:49.840 --> 00:57:52.320
<v Speaker 2>going across the Pearl Harbor. Yeah, so we spent a

954
00:57:52.320 --> 00:57:54.920
<v Speaker 2>lot of time talk about UFOs back then. So I

955
00:57:54.920 --> 00:57:58.000
<v Speaker 2>saw with the Navy back then at least okay, explicit

956
00:57:58.679 --> 00:58:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and oh no, I must say, you know, this is

957
00:58:03.480 --> 00:58:05.719
<v Speaker 2>kind of just I'm not I'm not an agent of

958
00:58:05.800 --> 00:58:11.400
<v Speaker 2>blady me putent fucking assholes. Excuse me, I'm talking about Yeah,

959
00:58:11.480 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about Colonel John B. Alexander, that schmuck. That

960
00:58:15.400 --> 00:58:20.320
<v Speaker 2>even schmuck. Okay, But but the point is, so we're

961
00:58:20.360 --> 00:58:22.400
<v Speaker 2>sally at the Pearl Harbor. You know, they hit all

962
00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.559
<v Speaker 2>the sailors and you know we're all standing there. We

963
00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:26.840
<v Speaker 2>go past, you know, the Arizona you know, the World

964
00:58:26.840 --> 00:58:29.480
<v Speaker 2>War I mean, you know, like I even I tear

965
00:58:29.559 --> 00:58:31.960
<v Speaker 2>up even now thinking of that. So you know, you know,

966
00:58:32.280 --> 00:58:35.480
<v Speaker 2>I remember World War Two. My my uncle, my uncle

967
00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:37.159
<v Speaker 2>was four and a half. It was four years in

968
00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:41.000
<v Speaker 2>combat in the South Pacific, you know, the whole time.

969
00:58:41.320 --> 00:58:44.800
<v Speaker 2>So you know, I really remember World War Two even

970
00:58:44.800 --> 00:58:46.239
<v Speaker 2>though I can remember it.

971
00:58:46.480 --> 00:58:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

972
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, okay, so here okay, so so u fos Okay,

973
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:53.559
<v Speaker 2>So now I'm back to San Diego State. Now now

974
00:58:53.559 --> 00:58:57.679
<v Speaker 2>it's gonna get weird. That's gonna really weird. Okay, okay, no,

975
00:59:01.360 --> 00:59:07.000
<v Speaker 2>and now now now Uri Gellick enters the picture. So

976
00:59:07.039 --> 00:59:10.679
<v Speaker 2>it's like nineteen seventy two, I guess nineteen seventy two,

977
00:59:10.719 --> 00:59:17.639
<v Speaker 2>late nineteen seventy two, and I'm living on campus, off

978
00:59:17.639 --> 00:59:21.320
<v Speaker 2>campus with this other physics professor named Fred Allen Wolf

979
00:59:21.360 --> 00:59:22.920
<v Speaker 2>find if you heard of him. He's kind of well

980
00:59:22.920 --> 00:59:27.920
<v Speaker 2>known at the time. They were too we both got divorced. Stupid.

981
00:59:28.039 --> 00:59:32.199
<v Speaker 2>You know you can read that how it me say?

982
00:59:32.239 --> 00:59:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Physics the book?

983
00:59:34.159 --> 00:59:35.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, a lot of the history is already out there.

984
00:59:35.800 --> 00:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm more curious in your opinions on the phenomenon.

985
00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:43.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and so uh. Fred gets a call from

986
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.000
<v Speaker 2>his high school Chicago high school buddy named Bob Tobin

987
00:59:48.840 --> 00:59:52.000
<v Speaker 2>and and Bob says the boss to come after you know,

988
00:59:52.119 --> 00:59:55.480
<v Speaker 2>won't pay a visit. Bob is a zanty guy, but

989
00:59:55.519 --> 00:59:57.159
<v Speaker 2>he has a lot of money. He made a lot

990
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:00.840
<v Speaker 2>of money on the Chicago commodities market. He's he's rolling

991
01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:09.519
<v Speaker 2>in money. Bob comes and movie stays with us and

992
01:00:09.679 --> 01:00:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Bob starts. So he says, business is rarely psychic named

993
01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Uri Yella, he's able to bend metal with his mind. Yeah. Now,

994
01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:25.000
<v Speaker 2>at this time, you got to understand fred Wolf very straight.

995
01:00:25.199 --> 01:00:29.360
<v Speaker 2>He you know, he had working in nuclear atomic physics

996
01:00:29.360 --> 01:00:32.079
<v Speaker 2>of nuclear explosions and air Force contracts. I was actually

997
01:00:32.079 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 2>working on Air Force nuclear explosion contract at the time,

998
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:41.159
<v Speaker 2>and very straight, you know, Bermuda Schwitz. Uh. Austin Healey

999
01:00:41.320 --> 01:00:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and I had a what did I have? I had?

1000
01:00:44.199 --> 01:00:49.679
<v Speaker 2>I had Alpha Mao spit by whatever you know, and

1001
01:00:49.679 --> 01:00:53.719
<v Speaker 2>it's a navy town. And he said, he says, uh,

1002
01:00:54.559 --> 01:00:57.920
<v Speaker 2>he says to friend, listen, I have a book contract,

1003
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and I have a television thing we want to do,

1004
01:01:03.679 --> 01:01:05.599
<v Speaker 2>like a series. I want to do a show on

1005
01:01:05.800 --> 01:01:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Uri Gella, and we need physicists to explain how can

1006
01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:13.800
<v Speaker 2>Uri Gella do what he does? And we didn't know,

1007
01:01:13.840 --> 01:01:18.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, we know anything anykay, So we said, yeah, okay,

1008
01:01:18.559 --> 01:01:23.800
<v Speaker 2>we didn't know. It was start brainstorming with him. But okay,

1009
01:01:23.840 --> 01:01:27.960
<v Speaker 2>one thing leads to another and let me let me,

1010
01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:32.599
<v Speaker 2>let me see how to do this now and he leaves.

1011
01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:42.079
<v Speaker 2>He leaves, Bob leaves, and Fred gets a call. It's

1012
01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:46.239
<v Speaker 2>like now the spring, early spring of seventy three. Fred

1013
01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.920
<v Speaker 2>gets a call from a friend of his, both in

1014
01:01:49.039 --> 01:01:54.639
<v Speaker 2>Paris and in London, that he's often to teach atomic

1015
01:01:54.719 --> 01:01:58.400
<v Speaker 2>physics at the University of Paris and also teach you

1016
01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:00.679
<v Speaker 2>at the University of London Burke Coulge, where I had

1017
01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:03.360
<v Speaker 2>actually been. I've been there myself too, with David Bole,

1018
01:02:04.239 --> 01:02:07.639
<v Speaker 2>David Bolt and h So he'd be commuting, he'd be

1019
01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:10.199
<v Speaker 2>living in Paris and London. You don't like teach one

1020
01:02:10.280 --> 01:02:12.079
<v Speaker 2>day a week in Paris, one day a week in

1021
01:02:12.119 --> 01:02:15.079
<v Speaker 2>London and just commute. They pay his way and teaching

1022
01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 2>atomic physics. Okay, Yeah. Then I get a phone I

1023
01:02:22.719 --> 01:02:25.679
<v Speaker 2>get a phone call from this Salam who I had

1024
01:02:25.679 --> 01:02:27.880
<v Speaker 2>already known because I've been working back and forth. I

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01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:30.480
<v Speaker 2>was I was at the British Atomic Energy Commission, you know,

1026
01:02:30.519 --> 01:02:33.159
<v Speaker 2>with back and forth, you know stuff like that. I'm

1027
01:02:33.239 --> 01:02:38.559
<v Speaker 2>the Salaam is the chairman. He's a Pakistani but a

1028
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 2>British expat, well like Pechistan. You're living in England and

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01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:45.480
<v Speaker 2>he's he's the head of the head of Theoretical Physics

1030
01:02:45.480 --> 01:02:47.920
<v Speaker 2>department at the Imperial College of London. It was like

1031
01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:54.599
<v Speaker 2>them I team of England. But he also runs a

1032
01:02:54.760 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 2>International Institute of Theoretical Physics in Trieste, Italy, which is

1033
01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:04.559
<v Speaker 2>partly it's UNSCO it's a ulan so it's Russian, Russian physicists,

1034
01:03:04.559 --> 01:03:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Indian physicists, African and you know, French, American and also

1035
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:12.719
<v Speaker 2>it Yeah, and he says he was following some of

1036
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:15.719
<v Speaker 2>my work. He's that he was interested in, says Jack,

1037
01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:20.760
<v Speaker 2>Why don't you come to trust Italy work at I

1038
01:03:21.199 --> 01:03:24.840
<v Speaker 2>know I'm invited there. Yeah, say me there, and we

1039
01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:27.000
<v Speaker 2>want to leave San Diego anyway, it was getting born

1040
01:03:27.440 --> 01:03:31.559
<v Speaker 2>sod to, you know, so we both wind up. Okay,

1041
01:03:31.840 --> 01:03:39.840
<v Speaker 2>so we're on our way to Europe. But now I'm

1042
01:03:39.880 --> 01:03:42.679
<v Speaker 2>on my way to Europe. From before going to Europe.

1043
01:03:42.719 --> 01:03:47.000
<v Speaker 2>This is now like, uh, maybe it's June, maybe it's

1044
01:03:47.079 --> 01:03:50.000
<v Speaker 2>June of maybe it's May. I'm not sure, you know,

1045
01:03:50.079 --> 01:03:58.519
<v Speaker 2>early early spring, early summer, nineteen seventy three, and I'm

1046
01:03:58.599 --> 01:04:04.079
<v Speaker 2>in I'm about to fly from San Francisco to London

1047
01:04:04.599 --> 01:04:07.800
<v Speaker 2>on my way to Trieste. Now it gets very weird.

1048
01:04:08.079 --> 01:04:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's gonna get very weird.

1049
01:04:10.239 --> 01:04:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Do you see some UFOs?

1050
01:04:13.239 --> 01:04:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Just wait, I'm.

1051
01:04:16.400 --> 01:04:18.280
<v Speaker 1>I want to hear about the you know.

1052
01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you know, be patient. This is more than

1053
01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:31.920
<v Speaker 2>it's UFOs and more more than you know. I'm in

1054
01:04:32.039 --> 01:04:36.480
<v Speaker 2>bed my girlfriend at her mother's house in Carmel Valley's

1055
01:04:36.519 --> 01:04:44.760
<v Speaker 2>beautiful place near Big near near near Big Serve. And

1056
01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:50.199
<v Speaker 2>and Sharon's mother brings in the Sunday paper, Sunday Chronicle magazine.

1057
01:04:50.199 --> 01:04:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I ope, up the magazine section. I get this. This

1058
01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:56.639
<v Speaker 2>is twilight Zone. Now, this is like, okay, this is

1059
01:04:57.119 --> 01:05:01.760
<v Speaker 2>this is UFOs on steroids. Okay you want to upho. Yeah,

1060
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:05.159
<v Speaker 2>well it's twilight Zone. Yeah, I believe it's worth it.

1061
01:05:06.199 --> 01:05:09.440
<v Speaker 2>But there's a big article, multi page colored article. I

1062
01:05:09.559 --> 01:05:13.079
<v Speaker 2>guess it's about it's about urry Yella who you were

1063
01:05:13.159 --> 01:05:15.559
<v Speaker 2>just we're on our way over to Oh yeah, well

1064
01:05:15.639 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 2>so because Bob said, Bob Toban giving us money, said,

1065
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.159
<v Speaker 2>don't have money, I give you all the money. We'll

1066
01:05:21.199 --> 01:05:24.800
<v Speaker 2>meet you in Europe, Bob. We're so it was Bob

1067
01:05:24.880 --> 01:05:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Tubant telling us to go to Europe. And then we

1068
01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:31.039
<v Speaker 2>get phone calls from from the from England, and you know,

1069
01:05:31.280 --> 01:05:34.559
<v Speaker 2>for for for Fred and I to go to England

1070
01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:37.159
<v Speaker 2>turns out this is all a c I A operation.

1071
01:05:37.519 --> 01:05:44.440
<v Speaker 2>It's all Central Intelligence Agency, right, okay. And so I

1072
01:05:44.480 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 2>opened up the thing, and I say, Uri Gala and

1073
01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:52.199
<v Speaker 2>and and they have their testing all these psychics, the

1074
01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:55.800
<v Speaker 2>psychic powers. And I say to shared, he said, Hey, Sharon,

1075
01:05:55.920 --> 01:05:59.800
<v Speaker 2>this is exactly what Bob Tauban is sending us over

1076
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:04.639
<v Speaker 2>there for pay. You know, you're taking the tickets every day. Okay,

1077
01:06:04.880 --> 01:06:10.000
<v Speaker 2>the coincidence, as I said, it's Sunday. So I said,

1078
01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.639
<v Speaker 2>Monday mon, we're leaving. I'm leaving on Wednesday and flying

1079
01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the sfone on Wednesday. That's Monday morning. Got Monday morning.

1080
01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:20.400
<v Speaker 2>I got to call these guys. So I get the phone.

1081
01:06:20.440 --> 01:06:27.159
<v Speaker 2>Never I call, Yeah, this guy, this Irish guy, Brendan o'reagan,

1082
01:06:27.239 --> 01:06:31.719
<v Speaker 2>gets on the phone. Get this snail. Oh doctor, so

1083
01:06:31.960 --> 01:06:36.920
<v Speaker 2>facty we were helping you would call us. I didn't

1084
01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:37.960
<v Speaker 2>stand how weird that is.

1085
01:06:38.800 --> 01:06:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, synchronicities, I think that they say.

1086
01:06:41.039 --> 01:06:46.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, and well, it's it's more than synchroticity. Explain yeah,

1087
01:06:46.960 --> 01:06:50.559
<v Speaker 2>but you can't. How do they know that Sharon's mother

1088
01:06:51.559 --> 01:06:55.000
<v Speaker 2>is going to bring in the newspaper and I'm gonna

1089
01:06:55.039 --> 01:06:57.199
<v Speaker 2>read the new and I'm gonna Thursday. I turn, I'm

1090
01:06:57.199 --> 01:07:00.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna turn and I see the article. Yeah, how could

1091
01:07:00.519 --> 01:07:03.039
<v Speaker 2>the CIA even? This can't? This is much more than

1092
01:07:03.119 --> 01:07:05.400
<v Speaker 2>c I A CIA is part of it. So do

1093
01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you I.

1094
01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.360
<v Speaker 1>Between the CIA and the consciousness and the UFOs?

1095
01:07:10.400 --> 01:07:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Then oh, okay, but you're jumping too fast because your

1096
01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:17.280
<v Speaker 2>mind you're like, you're like you're like a little old

1097
01:07:17.360 --> 01:07:21.840
<v Speaker 2>transistor radio and a big German broadband cloud flop pup.

1098
01:07:22.320 --> 01:07:24.320
<v Speaker 2>You can't imagine what I'm gonna tell you. Maybe you

1099
01:07:24.360 --> 01:07:26.760
<v Speaker 2>can't if you heard some of the earlier, earlier things,

1100
01:07:26.800 --> 01:07:29.679
<v Speaker 2>but you're not. You're like Tucher calls with Putin.

1101
01:07:29.639 --> 01:07:31.440
<v Speaker 1>And I actually I was thinking about that. This is

1102
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:33.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that, because you're telling the history story

1103
01:07:33.639 --> 01:07:35.840
<v Speaker 1>like Putin was. But all I want to know about

1104
01:07:35.880 --> 01:07:36.760
<v Speaker 1>is the UFOs.

1105
01:07:37.400 --> 01:07:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because because your mind is too slog I appreciate history,

1106
01:07:41.760 --> 01:07:49.360
<v Speaker 2>but because yeah, because you're suffering cognitive dysfunctions. And I'm

1107
01:07:49.400 --> 01:07:50.800
<v Speaker 2>going to give you a little bit. I'm giving you

1108
01:07:50.800 --> 01:07:52.800
<v Speaker 2>a little biagraph your to your mind.

1109
01:07:52.840 --> 01:07:54.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, yeah, I got with me.

1110
01:07:55.320 --> 01:07:59.639
<v Speaker 2>Just bear with me. Okay, So the wait okay, so

1111
01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.719
<v Speaker 2>so and he says, he says, can you drive? They

1112
01:08:02.760 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 2>know where I am an hour away, Obbi, I was

1113
01:08:08.440 --> 01:08:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Survelian me right, okay, who knows well? And so he said,

1114
01:08:13.719 --> 01:08:18.439
<v Speaker 2>can you we'd like to talk to you. So I

1115
01:08:18.479 --> 01:08:20.880
<v Speaker 2>get my car, which is great, and I drive up

1116
01:08:20.880 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 2>to SRI's like ten o'clock in the morning on Monday morning.

1117
01:08:24.840 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Remember I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, okay. And I'm met

1118
01:08:29.560 --> 01:08:33.079
<v Speaker 2>at SRI there and Brendan beat Steed and he says

1119
01:08:33.079 --> 01:08:36.159
<v Speaker 2>he first, he says, takes me across the street to

1120
01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:39.119
<v Speaker 2>the Institute of the WTICS Science. And guess who I meet.

1121
01:08:39.159 --> 01:08:42.600
<v Speaker 2>The first guy I meet besides Brendan is edgar Mitchell.

1122
01:08:42.720 --> 01:08:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Do you know edgar Mitchell?

1123
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:48.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think he's made some pretty profound statements about

1124
01:08:48.039 --> 01:08:49.880
<v Speaker 1>life and UF yes.

1125
01:08:49.800 --> 01:08:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yes, yes I meet him if I shake hands.

1126
01:08:53.239 --> 01:08:58.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sitting in edgar Mitchell's office right with Brenda.

1127
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Brendan Irish national by the way, from Dublin, from Dublin,

1128
01:09:02.920 --> 01:09:06.000
<v Speaker 2>and I think he comes from a fan from you know,

1129
01:09:06.159 --> 01:09:08.239
<v Speaker 2>the family who run the Irish Times or something like,

1130
01:09:08.319 --> 01:09:11.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, he said, kind of like an Irish aristocrat.

1131
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:18.039
<v Speaker 2>That guy British Intelligence, right, this is CIA, this is

1132
01:09:18.039 --> 01:09:23.760
<v Speaker 2>a CIA, you know how put off. Okay, so I

1133
01:09:23.880 --> 01:09:26.640
<v Speaker 2>wind up. We have lunch or something I guess was

1134
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:31.439
<v Speaker 2>Edgar bringing sandwiches or something. Then they take me to

1135
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.520
<v Speaker 2>a guy named Dean Brown. Dean Brown. Dean Brown is

1136
01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:38.760
<v Speaker 2>one of these original Stanford member. This is now you know,

1137
01:09:38.800 --> 01:09:43.399
<v Speaker 2>the Stanford the Venture Silicon Valley, Venture Capital's eyes and

1138
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:48.079
<v Speaker 2>was Dean Brown. And okay. Now it turns out the

1139
01:09:48.239 --> 01:09:55.159
<v Speaker 2>CIA tape recorded all this, and somebody sent me part

1140
01:09:55.279 --> 01:10:00.640
<v Speaker 2>of that tape recording from nineteen seventy three, which is

1141
01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:04.880
<v Speaker 2>now on SoundCloud. If you go to SoundCloud but to

1142
01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:10.880
<v Speaker 2>jackstar Body CIA nineteen seventy three, you can listen to

1143
01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:15.680
<v Speaker 2>the meeting in which I am introduced at Dean Brown's

1144
01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:21.520
<v Speaker 2>house to Harold put Off, Russell Togg and then a

1145
01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:25.399
<v Speaker 2>bunch of other people there too, And in that take

1146
01:10:26.960 --> 01:10:32.560
<v Speaker 2>you can hear Russell Togg talking about how they think

1147
01:10:32.600 --> 01:10:37.439
<v Speaker 2>flying sources of time machines from the future. You're just

1148
01:10:37.479 --> 01:10:40.159
<v Speaker 2>looking at Russell talk. You don't take my word. And

1149
01:10:40.199 --> 01:10:46.399
<v Speaker 2>then see I had remembered when I was thirteen, I

1150
01:10:46.479 --> 01:10:51.159
<v Speaker 2>was contacted these weird phone calls, but said it was

1151
01:10:51.439 --> 01:10:54.800
<v Speaker 2>said it was a conscious artificial conscious computer on board

1152
01:10:54.800 --> 01:10:58.199
<v Speaker 2>a spacecraft from the future and that they want to

1153
01:10:58.279 --> 01:11:01.479
<v Speaker 2>tee I was part of a group of care that

1154
01:11:01.560 --> 01:11:05.680
<v Speaker 2>they wanted to teach their technology too. In any case,

1155
01:11:06.079 --> 01:11:07.960
<v Speaker 2>I had, you know, Brendan kind of knew about that.

1156
01:11:08.039 --> 01:11:11.319
<v Speaker 2>So I had been talking with Edgar Mitchell and Brendan

1157
01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.159
<v Speaker 2>and you're about about my I had remembered my my

1158
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.600
<v Speaker 2>experience at the age of thirteen. Oh and then but

1159
01:11:17.720 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 2>they said I would meet the others in twenty years.

1160
01:11:21.359 --> 01:11:23.880
<v Speaker 2>This is nineteen seventy three, so it was twenty years later.

1161
01:11:24.239 --> 01:11:29.399
<v Speaker 2>And here I am at Sri Okay, like okay, in

1162
01:11:29.439 --> 01:11:32.319
<v Speaker 2>any case, So you'll hear me talking on that tape.

1163
01:11:32.600 --> 01:11:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I say to Brenda, said, Brenda, shake, tell him what

1164
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.319
<v Speaker 2>we talked about. Brendan, yeah, says go ahead. You hear it.

1165
01:11:38.439 --> 01:11:41.319
<v Speaker 2>You're hearing you hear you know, you hear the actual event.

1166
01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:46.479
<v Speaker 2>And I talk about what happened, and you'll hear Brenda saying, oh, yeah,

1167
01:11:46.520 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 2>we have we have data on several hundred incidents of

1168
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 2>that kind. Did the data on it? Okay, So there

1169
01:11:54.760 --> 01:11:56.600
<v Speaker 2>we are, so you want to and then they talk about,

1170
01:11:56.600 --> 01:11:57.159
<v Speaker 2>you know, where we go.

1171
01:11:57.640 --> 01:11:59.199
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't just you. There was other people that

1172
01:11:59.239 --> 01:12:00.000
<v Speaker 1>have had similar experience.

1173
01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:04.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, including hal put Off apparently Hal Pop. Yeah.

1174
01:12:04.840 --> 01:12:08.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know exactly, but how told me in nineteen

1175
01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:14.079
<v Speaker 2>How told me We're on a bus in London with

1176
01:12:14.239 --> 01:12:17.640
<v Speaker 2>Kit Green. You know, Christopher Green is Kit Green and see, okay,

1177
01:12:17.760 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm with Kit Green and hal put Off and sit

1178
01:12:19.960 --> 01:12:22.439
<v Speaker 2>on a bus that's Stewart have her office. So he

1179
01:12:22.479 --> 01:12:24.319
<v Speaker 2>was trying to get on the bus. We're going from

1180
01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:26.479
<v Speaker 2>the Temple to the meeting of dinner at the Temple.

1181
01:12:26.520 --> 01:12:29.079
<v Speaker 2>What was I to get where we're going? And how?

1182
01:12:29.399 --> 01:12:31.479
<v Speaker 2>He said? Yeah, I just said how. I said, yeah,

1183
01:12:31.479 --> 01:12:33.880
<v Speaker 2>when he was a kid, he had some strange stuff.

1184
01:12:34.199 --> 01:12:38.319
<v Speaker 2>And then uh, somebody interrupted the conversation, so he didn't

1185
01:12:38.359 --> 01:12:40.199
<v Speaker 2>tell me the full detail. But do you ever get

1186
01:12:40.199 --> 01:12:43.000
<v Speaker 2>hal Puto? Fun asked alcout what before he dies? He's

1187
01:12:43.000 --> 01:12:45.279
<v Speaker 2>older than me, you know, before he dies? Well, what

1188
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:47.119
<v Speaker 2>happened to him as a kid? Okay?

1189
01:12:47.359 --> 01:12:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

1190
01:12:49.520 --> 01:12:53.960
<v Speaker 2>And so there were and then they say, well, why

1191
01:12:54.119 --> 01:12:57.239
<v Speaker 2>why am I at? Why am I there? They want

1192
01:12:57.319 --> 01:12:59.840
<v Speaker 2>me to help set up test Saburi Geller at the

1193
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:04.960
<v Speaker 2>University of London, which happened. Yeah, well but no, they

1194
01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:09.239
<v Speaker 2>wanted other labs to corroborate obcessit and Okay, all this

1195
01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:11.880
<v Speaker 2>is in the you know, this is all in how

1196
01:13:12.039 --> 01:13:15.479
<v Speaker 2>NPSA Physics, my book Destiny Matrix. There's a new book

1197
01:13:15.800 --> 01:13:19.000
<v Speaker 2>by there's a new book by uh I guy, David

1198
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:22.119
<v Speaker 2>Glasste's on Amazon called The Great Race. It goes up

1199
01:13:22.159 --> 01:13:26.399
<v Speaker 2>to David Grusht by David grush Media. Okay, so there

1200
01:13:26.479 --> 01:13:28.479
<v Speaker 2>we go. Now, do you understand the whole point in

1201
01:13:28.560 --> 01:13:32.520
<v Speaker 2>telling you this story is that the only way to

1202
01:13:32.640 --> 01:13:38.119
<v Speaker 2>understand those events from nineteen fifty three, predicting I was

1203
01:13:38.159 --> 01:13:40.199
<v Speaker 2>going to meet hal Puto for all these guys in

1204
01:13:40.279 --> 01:13:44.920
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy three which happened, is that that this is

1205
01:13:44.960 --> 01:13:50.760
<v Speaker 2>all being manipulated by the non human intelligence of the

1206
01:13:50.800 --> 01:13:54.600
<v Speaker 2>tic TACs, you know with the mnibbits encounters. They are

1207
01:13:54.680 --> 01:13:58.479
<v Speaker 2>manipulating all this from back from the future. It's all

1208
01:13:58.520 --> 01:14:00.880
<v Speaker 2>time travel. You that say it's time travel. The only

1209
01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:04.199
<v Speaker 2>way to understand this the c i A fact. Then look,

1210
01:14:04.279 --> 01:14:06.680
<v Speaker 2>look how stupid the CIA is. Now we've got some

1211
01:14:06.720 --> 01:14:10.520
<v Speaker 2>really stupid people running the c I aside Burns, they're idiots.

1212
01:14:10.640 --> 01:14:12.560
<v Speaker 2>The people who got me into this back then we're

1213
01:14:12.600 --> 01:14:15.279
<v Speaker 2>the smarter than people. Now we have real idiots running

1214
01:14:15.319 --> 01:14:17.399
<v Speaker 2>the c I A. They're totally incompetent.

1215
01:14:17.720 --> 01:14:20.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So do you think that UFOs that are just

1216
01:14:20.680 --> 01:14:22.079
<v Speaker 1>us from the future? Do you think it could be

1217
01:14:22.159 --> 01:14:24.239
<v Speaker 1>aliens from the future or how do you what are

1218
01:14:24.239 --> 01:14:24.960
<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on that?

1219
01:14:25.640 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 2>Why? Why? Why is it? Why is it a zero?

1220
01:14:28.399 --> 01:14:31.279
<v Speaker 2>Why is it one of the most both to do

1221
01:14:31.319 --> 01:14:34.800
<v Speaker 2>you think it's definitely? It's definitely both interesting?

1222
01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:36.880
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think about the UFO community, Like

1223
01:14:36.920 --> 01:14:39.399
<v Speaker 1>some of these celebrities that are out there. Let's just say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, doctor Stephen Greer, Luelzando, Jeremy Corbel.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's let's let's be precise. Now, let's slow down.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you want to go one at a time.

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<v Speaker 2>Still, one at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's start with Jeremy Corbell, because my opinion is

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01:14:53.199 --> 01:14:55.439
<v Speaker 1>he thinks that it can't be us, that it's got

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<v Speaker 1>to be aliens. What do you think about him?

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<v Speaker 2>He's an idiot, Bella, he's a well me he said, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's a schmucke. Covell's a schmuck, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>d UN's he runs, he knows what is his educational background?

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<v Speaker 2>What does it? Well? Does he ever? Does he have

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<v Speaker 2>a degree in physics?

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<v Speaker 1>Definitely not.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a degree in mathematics. Is he an engineer, there's

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<v Speaker 2>all the physics, there's all the technical problem. You gotta understand,

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01:15:21.239 --> 01:15:24.720
<v Speaker 2>there's all technical problem. Yeah he's yeah, he's he's he's

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<v Speaker 2>an airhead. Yeah, okay, let's go.

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01:15:27.279 --> 01:15:30.479
<v Speaker 1>About let's let rapid fire of these out. What about Louison?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think about him?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's a military guy. Yeah, he's inde information.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Oh he definitely now okay, okay, lois a soldier.

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<v Speaker 2>He again, I don't know. He doesn't have much of

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<v Speaker 2>a technical background, and he was basically drafted into this

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<v Speaker 2>by schmucks and wherever the schmucks above him and the

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01:15:54.600 --> 01:15:58.000
<v Speaker 2>ship from Shinola, and so you know, he's he's like

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01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:00.880
<v Speaker 2>David Crush, except David. I think he has a little

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01:16:00.920 --> 01:16:05.560
<v Speaker 2>bit more physics math background then than lou So my

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01:16:05.720 --> 01:16:09.560
<v Speaker 2>beef with lou was that he was too much of

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<v Speaker 2>a whim when when uh Frank Milburn or Frank Milburn's

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01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:20.920
<v Speaker 2>this x s a s British soldier suffering from PTSD

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But you know, he's a he wrote

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<v Speaker 2>these two papers for the beginnings that dot uh mosad

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<v Speaker 2>idea think tank at Baroline University of Isriel, and he

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01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:33.640
<v Speaker 2>wrote these two things, and I'm in it. He describes

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01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:35.880
<v Speaker 2>my stuff pretty well, does a pretty good job. And

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<v Speaker 2>also Louis in it and Chris mull World in it. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And then when when when people have asked, uh, Louis

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01:16:45.800 --> 01:16:49.000
<v Speaker 2>about the Sarfari physics, he's just he doesn't, you know,

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01:16:49.119 --> 01:16:52.279
<v Speaker 2>he didn't want to say anything that partly because he's

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<v Speaker 2>not a physicist. So actually maybe that was good.

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01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:59.880
<v Speaker 1>But and uh, do you think he's asked where he

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<v Speaker 1>has an NDA and he can't speak about some of

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01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:03.399
<v Speaker 1>it because it's national security issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, of course, well that's what he says, so you've

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01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:12.039
<v Speaker 2>got to believe what he says. And all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>I think Louis is trying to do the right thing.

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01:17:16.239 --> 01:17:18.760
<v Speaker 2>But louis involved with some people who are who are

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<v Speaker 2>who I don't like Louis involved with, well, Chris Smeller.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe Chris and I will make up. You know, Gary Nolan,

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01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:28.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm pissed off because I pissed him off.

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<v Speaker 2>He's emotional. And who else Colonel John Alexander and Eric

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01:17:33.760 --> 01:17:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Davis some of these people, you know, Uh, there's a

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01:17:37.920 --> 01:17:39.760
<v Speaker 2>whole other story. Okay, so go ahead ask me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess the next one is doctor Stephen Greer.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think he's had inside information?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he has agreed. I always got into a fistfight

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<v Speaker 2>with Grill.

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01:17:49.720 --> 01:17:50.319
<v Speaker 1>That's funny.

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01:17:51.039 --> 01:17:53.199
<v Speaker 2>In two thousand and four, we're on the same as

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<v Speaker 2>Santa Fe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:56.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what he said, because I did. I

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01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:59.840
<v Speaker 2>thought three was a communist. Yeah, you say, oh, I know,

1288
01:18:00.159 --> 01:18:03.239
<v Speaker 2>saying back then, I was a schmuck myself. And I

1289
01:18:03.479 --> 01:18:04.960
<v Speaker 2>think I was sort of a neo con back then

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01:18:05.119 --> 01:18:08.239
<v Speaker 2>because I was four, that's right. I believed all the

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01:18:08.279 --> 01:18:11.399
<v Speaker 2>bullshit about Iraq.

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01:18:12.239 --> 01:18:15.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all that stuff.

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01:18:16.199 --> 01:18:20.319
<v Speaker 2>And and actually I maybe I agree an apology because

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01:18:20.359 --> 01:18:23.479
<v Speaker 2>he said something bad about the president about all that,

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01:18:23.760 --> 01:18:31.520
<v Speaker 2>and I think, but he's a big guy. Yeah, he's steroids, right, Yeah,

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01:18:31.560 --> 01:18:33.239
<v Speaker 2>he works out. I don't know.

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01:18:33.319 --> 01:18:37.399
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing about Korea, he's a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>He struck me as being a bit of a cult leader.

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01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>You know, he gets the scullible people, they go out there,

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01:18:48.920 --> 01:18:51.560
<v Speaker 2>he charges money. Yeah, he makes money off it. So

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01:18:51.680 --> 01:18:54.800
<v Speaker 2>that makes me suspicious. But I think some of the

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01:18:54.840 --> 01:18:57.359
<v Speaker 2>stuff you know, he did you know some of the

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01:18:57.359 --> 01:19:00.479
<v Speaker 2>people with us is yeah, it's true. I I know

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01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:02.760
<v Speaker 2>it's true. I agree. We haven't gotten to that yet,

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01:19:02.920 --> 01:19:04.119
<v Speaker 2>so agree is a big bag?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Okay? Cool, And we'll talk a little bit

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01:19:06.880 --> 01:19:08.479
<v Speaker 1>more about some of his opinions here in a second,

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01:19:08.520 --> 01:19:11.000
<v Speaker 1>because and we may come to other people. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>the main three that I wanted to get your opinion on.

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<v Speaker 1>What I wanted. The next is, since you talked about

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of retro causality, with this idea that information

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01:19:17.720 --> 01:19:19.600
<v Speaker 1>from the future can float to the past, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the best evidence in science and physics is

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01:19:22.039 --> 01:19:24.439
<v Speaker 1>of retro causality. Do you think the doul slit experiment

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01:19:24.520 --> 01:19:27.079
<v Speaker 1>can explain that? Or do you have some other better evidence?

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<v Speaker 1>Although I guess that's good. Possibly, And are you familiar with.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, at this point we got to get into

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<v Speaker 2>my Now you want to do physics, Okay, just justimated.

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<v Speaker 2>We got to do screen right?

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<v Speaker 1>You want to do the equations?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, because the only way to do it otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm also I'm losing my voice. I can't. Yeah,

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01:19:48.279 --> 01:19:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I have a weak vocal cord. I strained it too

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<v Speaker 2>much when I was saying I point o, hang on.

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01:19:56.520 --> 01:19:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Make sure you hide your only.

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<v Speaker 2>Hang on. What happens to my joining your meeting? What

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01:20:04.399 --> 01:20:09.000
<v Speaker 2>happened to my joining the meeting here and join? Oh

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01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.800
<v Speaker 2>damn wait? What's Hang on a minute? Sure, hang on

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01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.520
<v Speaker 2>a minute, I gotta do. Why don't you talk to

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01:20:15.560 --> 01:20:16.079
<v Speaker 2>your guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm doing ok hold on the screen from you, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think Okay, five three nine ks? All right, okay, you

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<v Speaker 2>can right. We're back on this all right, okay, No, no,

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01:20:32.600 --> 01:20:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I want to know. I'm going to I want to

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01:20:36.119 --> 01:20:40.000
<v Speaker 2>get back on on screen again. Okay, wait, okay, yeah,

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01:20:40.159 --> 01:20:44.479
<v Speaker 2>but I'm ready now, okay, I'm ready. Okay, okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>you see my thing?

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01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:48.000
<v Speaker 1>No, I don't see you.

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01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:50.680
<v Speaker 2>Do you see it now? No?

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01:20:51.039 --> 01:20:52.199
<v Speaker 1>Still don't?

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01:20:52.479 --> 01:20:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh fuck? What happened? Oh wait? Okay, share screens? I

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01:20:57.960 --> 01:20:59.199
<v Speaker 2>do it again. Screen.

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01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:07.359
<v Speaker 1>There we go, Now I can see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there we go. Ok there we go. Okay, Okay,

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01:21:12.880 --> 01:21:14.359
<v Speaker 2>do you see my You see my white pad?

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01:21:15.000 --> 01:21:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Yep, we see it? Go for it looks good?

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01:21:16.680 --> 01:21:18.920
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, okay, ask me the question.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess the question is, what do you think

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01:21:21.600 --> 01:21:24.439
<v Speaker 1>of what's the best evidence of retro causality? Would you

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01:21:24.479 --> 01:21:28.560
<v Speaker 1>say the delayed choice quantum eraser is a good uh?

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01:21:30.239 --> 01:21:33.680
<v Speaker 2>Now let me okay, let me go, okay, retro personality. Yeah,

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01:21:35.000 --> 01:21:41.159
<v Speaker 2>do you see that? Yep, the idea I think I

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01:21:41.239 --> 01:21:43.439
<v Speaker 2>get right, then I can't get right then if I

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01:21:43.600 --> 01:21:46.840
<v Speaker 2>if I carry this all right, yeah, all right, okay,

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01:21:46.880 --> 01:21:50.199
<v Speaker 2>now your first let me get the history history.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't see your face either, but go ahead.

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01:21:54.159 --> 01:21:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh you can't see my face I.

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01:21:55.600 --> 01:21:58.640
<v Speaker 1>Covered up or something that looks like all right, that's.

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01:21:58.479 --> 01:22:01.760
<v Speaker 2>The problem with this thing. Okay, that's the problem. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So now the history around nineteen forty. Oh actually,

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<v Speaker 2>oh we'll go nineteen forty wheeler, wheeler. So once you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta do guys find men will fun Well, you go

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<v Speaker 2>to Wikipedia, even though even though go to Wikipedia, how

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01:22:29.880 --> 01:22:31.479
<v Speaker 2>do you spell Wikipedia? Pedia?

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01:22:32.520 --> 01:22:33.079
<v Speaker 1>You got it?

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01:22:33.760 --> 01:22:37.239
<v Speaker 2>All all these key words. You just go just put

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01:22:37.279 --> 01:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>in wheel of fineman. You got to do your homework.

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<v Speaker 2>This is you know, yeah, this is serious stuff. You

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01:22:43.159 --> 01:22:45.880
<v Speaker 2>can just get a SAP, you know, for attention Different

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01:22:47.000 --> 01:23:00.319
<v Speaker 2>disorder US. Okay, wheel finding advanced advanced potentials, Advanced electromagnetic potentials. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's you know, back from the future, mhm future, got it.

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01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:19.119
<v Speaker 2>But that's classical. This is not tuantum. Okay, this is

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01:23:19.119 --> 01:23:36.800
<v Speaker 2>all classical that's a classical, classical physics. It's okay, then

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<v Speaker 2>let's jump. Then we have uh Freid of oil oil

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01:23:53.199 --> 01:24:08.199
<v Speaker 2>and Cambridge Isaac Newton, Newton professor Stavid Hawking took his job.

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01:24:09.640 --> 01:24:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it was Denis anthes as defensor. I thought

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01:24:12.880 --> 01:24:24.560
<v Speaker 2>the intelligent Intelligent Universe is a book. Intelligent Universe around

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01:24:24.600 --> 01:24:28.399
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty six or so, a book, you know, get

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01:24:28.399 --> 01:24:30.199
<v Speaker 2>that book or look at look look at that. But

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<v Speaker 2>he talks about retro consality, that the universe is created

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01:24:35.439 --> 01:24:42.159
<v Speaker 2>from the future. Okay, that's Fred Hoyle, all right. Around

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01:24:42.239 --> 01:24:52.479
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty four, we have a student student of David Boone.

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01:24:55.760 --> 01:24:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Look up all these people, David Boone, who worked with Einstein.

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01:25:00.119 --> 01:25:00.840
<v Speaker 1>En bone affects.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and but he but but but

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<v Speaker 2>but yak kia yeah, kiah m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>He's still alive ninety one, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I saw, I saw him not too long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He was there. I can tell you about Yeah, he

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01:25:24.079 --> 01:25:26.680
<v Speaker 2>was there. They would put off the dog, I mean

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01:25:26.720 --> 01:25:30.239
<v Speaker 2>with Kit Green and and and and put off in

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01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>London because of the Boone. We at the bone pestle

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01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:39.319
<v Speaker 2>I just coronal, that's ird. I think that said. Yeah,

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01:25:39.479 --> 01:25:49.479
<v Speaker 2>what's called weak measurement theory, week measurement mhm, big measurement.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at that per minute. And then uh, quantum quantum,

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01:25:56.800 --> 01:26:04.399
<v Speaker 2>this is quantum mechanics, yeah, mechanics. And this is practical stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>This is stuff that can do with the laboratory. It's

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01:26:06.079 --> 01:26:10.680
<v Speaker 2>such as theoretical and basically, but that is this is

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<v Speaker 2>here now, yeah, And this is what's called this is

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01:26:18.840 --> 01:26:28.600
<v Speaker 2>this is time, this is space okay. And this is

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01:26:28.680 --> 01:26:42.399
<v Speaker 2>what's called a future h uh boundary condition condition and

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01:26:42.479 --> 01:26:50.680
<v Speaker 2>this is past a past boundary. And then he has

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01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:58.319
<v Speaker 2>what's happening here? You have a there's a sideway side destiny,

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01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:05.039
<v Speaker 2>he calls it. This is his blang wuage must.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, that's not a it's not an art contest, okay.

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01:27:12.279 --> 01:27:19.560
<v Speaker 2>And here you have another wave, second wave pside history,

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01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>and they sort of they create what happens there. Yeah, okay, okay, it's.

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<v Speaker 1>About the future and the past or in influence in

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01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>the present.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, this is the future cause future cause past cause mhm,

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01:27:41.920 --> 01:27:46.399
<v Speaker 2>past cause. Oh let me make a little digression here.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know Stephen Stephen Stephen wolf friend wolf, Yeah, mathematica, Yeah,

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01:27:59.760 --> 01:28:03.479
<v Speaker 2>but you know about mathematica it's the main pro it's

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01:28:03.520 --> 01:28:05.920
<v Speaker 2>you know, it's it's a he's a smart guy. He

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<v Speaker 2>worked at Mark Burry and he's a yeah, he's good

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<v Speaker 2>if we worked at Burry go in any case. He

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<v Speaker 2>has this thing called computational universe. Mutational universe. You know,

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01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:26.920
<v Speaker 2>are we a simulation? Are we living in a simulation? Ask?

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01:28:27.039 --> 01:28:29.239
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in the holographic principle? What is your thoughts?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is all well wait a minute, jumping to

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01:28:31.600 --> 01:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, I get that that's a good question, but

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<v Speaker 2>just remind me peeped out the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's on my list.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, he has this. But you know, he's kind

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01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>of like that we're living in a city. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>what he's saying would be consistent with that we're living

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<v Speaker 2>in a simulation. You were like with someone else's video game.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, time has no meaning. And if it's just

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01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:57.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, the future and the pastor in the president.

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<v Speaker 2>Well it has been eating. Don't say it has no meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>It has been. You're right, the meeting you think it has,

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01:29:02.279 --> 01:29:05.319
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't have the meeting you think it hasn't. Don't oversimplify,

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01:29:05.680 --> 01:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>as Einstein said, keep it as simple as possible. But

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<v Speaker 2>not simpler than is possible. And that's what all you

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01:29:15.800 --> 01:29:19.399
<v Speaker 2>guys do. You mean, you know you're like cartoons, You're

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, you're like you're like, as you said,

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01:29:22.159 --> 01:29:25.119
<v Speaker 2>Tucker Cross, it would line to be a boot serious

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>My generation what I say, we're full add I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, yes, yes, I know, I know I know that.

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01:29:34.159 --> 01:29:36.680
<v Speaker 2>But you know what, Okay, but here's an important thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Why are you bringing that up? Yeah? Most of the

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01:29:40.520 --> 01:29:44.439
<v Speaker 2>American kids are that way, and that's why, that's why,

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01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:49.159
<v Speaker 2>that's why America is is weak. That's a big national

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01:29:49.279 --> 01:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>security threat. And to some extent it's less. England is

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01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:56.520
<v Speaker 2>going that way. It's like dying now. But guess who

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01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:59.640
<v Speaker 2>isn't that way? The Russian kids are not that way,

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01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:04.680
<v Speaker 2>and especially the Chinese and the Indians, they have something

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01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:11.800
<v Speaker 2>called bricks. So the America, what's happening? So you know

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't want Okay, let's get it. Let's just keep

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01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>basically yeah, let's keep it on the physics.

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01:30:16.600 --> 01:30:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, basically being destroyed, being.

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01:30:18.840 --> 01:30:24.079
<v Speaker 2>Destroyed within Yeah, because because people, most American kids cannot

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01:30:24.479 --> 01:30:25.560
<v Speaker 2>just too much for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Much to speed here right now. In fact, I think

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01:30:28.199 --> 01:30:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a lot of America. They want to know more about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, but also I think you know kids who

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01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.880
<v Speaker 2>was watching this especially much. You had a lot of Russian, Chinese,

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01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:40.520
<v Speaker 2>and Indian probably kids from all over the world watching this. Okay,

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01:30:40.560 --> 01:30:41.479
<v Speaker 2>so they're gonna get it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're judging your hand right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, whatever they can.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so what about the holographic principle though? So yeah yeah, wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait okay, so wait, so wait I have finished

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<v Speaker 2>my point. I'm I'm I'm on a trajectory, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>a narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's keep it going.

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<v Speaker 2>The wolf from his raw Wolf has made a big

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<v Speaker 2>wolf from wolfs uh folly because his his algorithm algorithms

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01:31:20.319 --> 01:31:28.119
<v Speaker 2>only run one way in time past the president, right,

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01:31:31.560 --> 01:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>they only have they only have side history. Okay, that's

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01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:43.600
<v Speaker 2>why they don't work. Yeah, they don't work. They looks

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<v Speaker 2>not half of it. Let's not half of it now.

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<v Speaker 2>So the point is, okay, and the other schmucks who

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<v Speaker 2>are the other schmucks other schmucks? Because both we have

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<v Speaker 2>well well yeah, wil from We're will from with Weinstein,

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<v Speaker 2>Eric Weinstein.

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Weinstein, Okay, I want to know your opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>On him, Eric Weinstein. We have, uh we have what's

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<v Speaker 2>his name? Sam Altman?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, a, I got guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>He's my next door neigh but he's my next my

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<v Speaker 2>next door get him here is a sunk I don

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<v Speaker 2>Ai program. Yeah no, boy, oh good, we got to

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01:32:36.399 --> 01:32:42.800
<v Speaker 2>get that on there. Yeah yeah, Sam Altman chat and

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01:32:42.800 --> 01:32:46.720
<v Speaker 2>and uh Eland Musk.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you just docked Stam Altman.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, yeah, well they have to have ducked myself.

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01:32:53.760 --> 01:32:55.840
<v Speaker 1>And I want to know your opinion on him as well,

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01:32:55.840 --> 01:32:56.159
<v Speaker 1>like why.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like what yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk

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01:32:59.800 --> 01:33:05.199
<v Speaker 2>about good rock and rockets, rockets. He's the guys brilliant

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01:33:05.239 --> 01:33:07.720
<v Speaker 2>in their way. Okay, but who else who's Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>Lex Freedman.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you like likes Freedman?

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<v Speaker 2>I like him. That's I mean truck Man. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>like him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he just science.

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01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's a slow yeah yeah, yeah you do. Yeah,

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01:33:23.119 --> 01:33:26.039
<v Speaker 2>you know you're making stupid mistakes.

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01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:28.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, I actually agree with you and all these people,

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01:33:28.359 --> 01:33:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to be honest.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in terms of what Yeah, and Joe Rogan too,

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01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:35.279
<v Speaker 2>who are somebody?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's Getjoe Rugan on that list for sure. You

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01:33:37.359 --> 01:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>think seventy videos have video game graphics and then when

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<v Speaker 1>they're showing.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh okay, oh right, so what so the point is

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<v Speaker 2>that's what doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely getting canceled from Joe Rogan. I burnt that

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<v Speaker 1>bridge you did?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's okay. Yeah, here we go to the next one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the point is all a I, hey, I.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not conscious Yeah, just language learning models, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Not conscious? Why because in order to make them conscious,

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01:34:10.760 --> 01:34:12.880
<v Speaker 2>you have to have the thing coming from the future.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have SI history sigh, destiny, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to generate consciousness in a cent consciousness almost

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01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:33.079
<v Speaker 2>not almost almost almost need both of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Interrupt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean what is what is? Okay, Si,

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01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:48.880
<v Speaker 2>let's go pig history? Is memory? A memory that's called

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01:34:49.119 --> 01:34:59.680
<v Speaker 2>uh that's uh, that is quantum entanglement we pr quantum entanglement.

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<v Speaker 2>Angle yeah, men signaling signaling angling past the present. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually what it's like Frank will Will checks Will

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01:35:21.159 --> 01:35:24.600
<v Speaker 2>Sex Nobel Prize and Nobel Prize. I think I have

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01:35:24.640 --> 01:35:29.079
<v Speaker 2>another way, uh time crystal effect. It's a time crystal

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01:35:40.319 --> 01:35:44.039
<v Speaker 2>we are we are that's us we we we we

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<v Speaker 2>are like time when a memory when when suddenly a

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01:35:47.800 --> 01:35:51.880
<v Speaker 2>memory pops into your consciousness, right, you know you have

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01:35:51.920 --> 01:35:55.680
<v Speaker 2>an idea, you remember something suddenly remember you think you

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01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:59.359
<v Speaker 2>know that that that's that's uh, that's the effect of

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<v Speaker 2>the of the history quantum waves in your in your brain.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's set where certain certain memories will pop up

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01:36:11.039 --> 01:36:14.079
<v Speaker 2>at certain times in your stream of consciousness. Okay, but

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<v Speaker 2>what about the other one, the other one side destiny

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01:36:18.159 --> 01:36:28.199
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm, that is intuition, intuition, creativity.

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01:36:36.840 --> 01:36:38.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this paper.

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01:36:39.680 --> 01:36:44.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know Mozart, Mozart, you know Mozart, Yeah, you know.

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01:36:44.199 --> 01:36:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Mozart said when he wrote his music, he said he

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01:36:47.479 --> 01:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>was just listening to him. It was just popping up

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01:36:49.720 --> 01:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>in his mind. He was remote viewing his future performances.

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01:36:54.159 --> 01:37:01.479
<v Speaker 2>That's called the loop and time loop. And this guy

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01:37:01.600 --> 01:37:10.319
<v Speaker 2>named Nova cop physics nob Cop Igor igor no cop Moscow.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's said he may be Moscow. Book River

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<v Speaker 2>River of Time, River of Time. Get that book. This

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01:37:23.079 --> 01:37:25.279
<v Speaker 2>let me let me. This is a book, everybody, okay,

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01:37:25.960 --> 01:37:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Igor Nobe cough book River Mum Time. Also some of

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01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:48.800
<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. Just get David Gladstone. David Gladstone,

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01:37:51.319 --> 01:37:59.039
<v Speaker 2>Great Race, Great race, goes up me. It's about me

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01:37:59.399 --> 01:38:05.239
<v Speaker 2>and up to David Crush. David Grush, you know he's

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01:38:05.319 --> 01:38:11.239
<v Speaker 2>congressional at Congress. Okay, that's on Amazon Amazon, get the

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01:38:11.319 --> 01:38:17.039
<v Speaker 2>kindles cheeked Amazon kindle. Don't shoot that on there. But okay,

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01:38:17.319 --> 01:38:20.399
<v Speaker 2>all right, okay, all right, so now where where were we? Now?

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01:38:20.479 --> 01:38:21.800
<v Speaker 2>So what will you asking me about?

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01:38:22.680 --> 01:38:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Well, so I guess the next thing is in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of time in general, do you think it's deterministic or

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<v Speaker 1>do you think do you think that's morisonic string theory?

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01:38:30.039 --> 01:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>We have different timelines. Now, I think you've done a

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<v Speaker 1>good Uh you've presented the science here and and the

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<v Speaker 1>people who.

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<v Speaker 2>Are Okay, okay, now wait, now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>There are two views exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Two views. One is one is many worlds. Okay, so

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01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:59.279
<v Speaker 2>now but you have to look at Max tegwalk Max,

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01:39:02.119 --> 01:39:07.960
<v Speaker 2>take mark at m I T just looking up and

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01:39:08.239 --> 01:39:12.439
<v Speaker 2>he has uh uh he has this this, this, this

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01:39:12.720 --> 01:39:22.199
<v Speaker 2>level one, one, two, three and four. Okay, Uh, there

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01:39:22.239 --> 01:39:25.720
<v Speaker 2>are different meanings out there's this is levels one and

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01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:35.520
<v Speaker 2>two is all classical classical uh matter, and level three

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01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>is mental by the mental worlds. Okay, side these sideways. Okay,

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01:39:46.359 --> 01:39:50.720
<v Speaker 2>so it depends what you're talking about. Okay. The different

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01:39:50.760 --> 01:39:53.239
<v Speaker 2>the different levels. See, people are too sloppy about this self.

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01:39:54.439 --> 01:39:59.199
<v Speaker 2>What do you mean by you know, the universe itself? Okay,

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01:39:59.279 --> 01:40:07.079
<v Speaker 2>now I have do a little cosmology. What you uh,

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01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Here is the let's say the initial singularity, official white hole.

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01:40:15.279 --> 01:40:21.279
<v Speaker 2>That's called a white hole. Oh okay, And this is

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01:40:21.359 --> 01:40:25.800
<v Speaker 2>gonna be this is this is this is the time.

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<v Speaker 2>And now you have I'm gonna use different this I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I no, that's something I want to Yeah. This is

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01:40:53.239 --> 01:40:58.000
<v Speaker 2>called the past. This is the past boundary. Condition let's

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01:40:58.079 --> 01:41:01.560
<v Speaker 2>up before the past boundary. I'm not going to go

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01:41:01.640 --> 01:41:07.119
<v Speaker 2>into the full details boundary. And here we had and

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01:41:07.239 --> 01:41:18.880
<v Speaker 2>here we have. This is the future boundary. And this

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01:41:19.000 --> 01:41:22.199
<v Speaker 2>is just pretend pretend you're an immortal god. You're an

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01:41:22.239 --> 01:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>immortal god. This is this is you, This is Ashton. Nice. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>this is let me let me just you suppose you

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<v Speaker 2>suppose you're suppose suppose you're an immortal you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like a Greek god. Well no, no, no, you're

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01:41:41.600 --> 01:41:44.039
<v Speaker 2>actually here, You're you're you're living. This is this is

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01:41:44.119 --> 01:41:53.319
<v Speaker 2>your this is this is Ashton. Ashton's worldline. Got it? Worldline?

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01:41:54.720 --> 01:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>You know from the you've lived, you know from from

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01:41:57.560 --> 01:41:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the bad, Like this is pretty close with the big bang,

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01:42:00.039 --> 01:42:03.439
<v Speaker 2>gus a right down there, big bang. Okay, and yeah,

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01:42:03.520 --> 01:42:05.479
<v Speaker 2>and this is and this is like the end time,

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01:42:06.399 --> 01:42:12.079
<v Speaker 2>the end time. Sure, Actually this is called conformal time.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's actually infinite clock time. And then there's

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01:42:16.359 --> 01:42:18.239
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot this has to depend. This is what

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01:42:18.359 --> 01:42:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I called hang on. This is what I'm actually called

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01:42:24.479 --> 01:42:32.800
<v Speaker 2>actually called h It's like it's similar to a penro

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01:42:32.960 --> 01:42:41.359
<v Speaker 2>what's called the Penrose diagram. Man, So this is actually

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01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:45.560
<v Speaker 2>conformal what's called conformal time. It's it's not the regular

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01:42:45.640 --> 01:42:48.560
<v Speaker 2>time for the clock. It's actually this is actually this

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01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:51.279
<v Speaker 2>is this is a finite it's it's actually infinite clock

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<v Speaker 2>times what's called conformal infinity. Yet they're mathematics.

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<v Speaker 1>This is year with the mathematics.

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01:42:56.039 --> 01:42:58.720
<v Speaker 2>But here, but here's the point. Here's the point. Here's

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<v Speaker 2>the point. Suppose you're here, supposed this is now twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, okay, twenty twenty four, you're getting you're getting well.

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<v Speaker 2>Your mind by the way, the sidewaves just saying sidewaves,

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01:43:18.039 --> 01:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>mind waves, mind waves. See that's the big thing. Well,

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01:43:25.880 --> 01:43:28.239
<v Speaker 2>you are when you are your soul, you're you're just

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01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>a nurse. You're you're you're you're a pair of sidewaves.

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01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:35.159
<v Speaker 2>You're you have advanced and you have your destiny and history. Okay,

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01:43:36.039 --> 01:43:40.560
<v Speaker 2>and so information you're getting let's say I want to

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01:43:40.600 --> 01:43:45.640
<v Speaker 2>do it, I want to do this is your brain,

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01:43:45.680 --> 01:43:48.800
<v Speaker 2>your mind, your brains, so to speak. And this is

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01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:56.439
<v Speaker 2>you're getting information side history. Okay, but you're also getting information,

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01:43:57.680 --> 01:44:00.640
<v Speaker 2>you're also getting information from the future. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with you there for sure.

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01:44:05.520 --> 01:44:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Side destiny, that's your destiny, your karma, karma if you want. Yeah,

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01:44:13.159 --> 01:44:14.399
<v Speaker 2>so that's the way it works. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What does this mean thought to it being deterministic or not? Though, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>are there more than one timeline or do you think

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<v Speaker 1>there's just one timeline?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, right down here, there's only one here, there's

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01:44:24.880 --> 01:44:28.880
<v Speaker 2>only one timeline. Right, one timeline. There's only one timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's what I haven't talked about the other possibilities. Yeah,

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01:44:32.479 --> 01:44:35.119
<v Speaker 2>it's not that simple. You're jumping you know, you're making

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01:44:35.520 --> 01:44:39.760
<v Speaker 2>jumping ahead too quick and you know, and you're losing information.

1634
01:44:41.439 --> 01:44:44.319
<v Speaker 2>This is the situation. Okay, But then within a single

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01:44:44.439 --> 01:44:49.159
<v Speaker 2>this isn't your timeline, right, it's a timeline. It's your timeline.

1636
01:44:49.680 --> 01:44:52.560
<v Speaker 2>But really we only exist in my little little piece

1637
01:44:52.680 --> 01:44:58.039
<v Speaker 2>like that. Yeah, born right, okay, and it's observed it dependent.

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01:44:58.159 --> 01:45:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Now the point this is called the causal diamond. It's

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01:45:02.680 --> 01:45:15.640
<v Speaker 2>called the causal causal diamond. This is the observable universe. Observable, yeah, universe.

1640
01:45:16.359 --> 01:45:20.359
<v Speaker 2>This is assumed to be vacuum. And he's a light signals. See,

1641
01:45:20.640 --> 01:45:24.279
<v Speaker 2>he's also he's also traveled the speed of light. Light

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01:45:24.399 --> 01:45:28.880
<v Speaker 2>signals too, well, they're light signals. I'm almost simplifying a

1643
01:45:28.920 --> 01:45:33.439
<v Speaker 2>little bit. I'm assuming that the sideways also can travel

1644
01:45:33.680 --> 01:45:39.880
<v Speaker 2>light like light signals, maybe even electromic. Okay, it's too

1645
01:45:39.920 --> 01:45:42.199
<v Speaker 2>much fish. I can't really explain it properly.

1646
01:45:42.640 --> 01:45:44.199
<v Speaker 1>We don't need you to on here. I just want to.

1647
01:45:46.520 --> 01:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>Look Okay, hang on, I'm just let's just change the color.

1648
01:45:55.520 --> 01:46:07.399
<v Speaker 2>Let's just change the color. He was h Okay, is Ashton?

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01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:19.159
<v Speaker 2>Ashton and I got super overlapping Jack. But we each

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01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:27.600
<v Speaker 2>have our own will. But the the the causal diamond

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01:46:29.560 --> 01:46:33.199
<v Speaker 2>diamond is observer dependent.

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01:46:33.800 --> 01:46:34.199
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm.

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01:46:35.960 --> 01:46:38.239
<v Speaker 2>So we have slight, but the beautify is so big

1654
01:46:38.319 --> 01:46:39.840
<v Speaker 2>that everybody can be the same one. You know what

1655
01:46:39.880 --> 01:46:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

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01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Observe it dependent, So we're creating our own universes that

1657
01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:46.399
<v Speaker 1>are then over we're in it.

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01:46:46.760 --> 01:46:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, well it's well, we're not creating it. Well yeah,

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01:46:50.520 --> 01:46:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't say we're creating. We're receiving it, so to speak.

1660
01:46:54.159 --> 01:46:56.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, we're being influenced. These are all like influences,

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01:46:57.119 --> 01:47:05.359
<v Speaker 2>external influences on us. Okay, Okay, now now this is

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01:47:05.439 --> 01:47:08.119
<v Speaker 2>all matter, This is all I classic, this is you know,

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01:47:08.239 --> 01:47:11.199
<v Speaker 2>this is matter. This is class this is the classical

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01:47:11.279 --> 01:47:18.319
<v Speaker 2>matter matter. But the sideways are like mind mental waves

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01:47:19.439 --> 01:47:27.119
<v Speaker 2>or mental signals. Okay, but now you can have say

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01:47:27.199 --> 01:47:31.239
<v Speaker 2>we have a bunch, you know right now, say we're

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01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:34.119
<v Speaker 2>in this causal diamond. Now there might be another causal

1668
01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:40.920
<v Speaker 2>diamond out here, right, this could be other dimensions. So

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01:47:41.119 --> 01:47:44.159
<v Speaker 2>that now this one they talk about other dimensions.

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01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:46.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?

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01:47:47.079 --> 01:47:49.600
<v Speaker 2>What does it mean? But there could be this could

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01:47:49.640 --> 01:47:58.319
<v Speaker 2>be an alien and this is us. Okay. Normally, normally

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01:47:59.640 --> 01:48:02.399
<v Speaker 2>they can and you know we're apart where there's no

1674
01:48:03.199 --> 01:48:17.920
<v Speaker 2>we're separated. However, with warp Sarafani, it's field be a

1675
01:48:17.960 --> 01:48:27.479
<v Speaker 2>little warp drive, warp wormhole. Oh, let's call it tick

1676
01:48:28.359 --> 01:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>tack tack. Okay, so we can get from both that.

1677
01:48:35.079 --> 01:48:41.000
<v Speaker 2>So you know, this is what when David Grush and others,

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01:48:42.960 --> 01:48:46.279
<v Speaker 2>what does he know like the extra extra dimensionals? Yeah

1679
01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:51.920
<v Speaker 2>mean this See maybe he doesn't. I don't know think.

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01:48:51.960 --> 01:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he knows what he means. He's too Yeah,

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01:48:53.920 --> 01:48:56.520
<v Speaker 2>he's not. He doesn't know about physics, you know, somebody doesn't.

1682
01:48:57.800 --> 01:49:00.279
<v Speaker 2>He may have this in mind. I don't know. This

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01:49:00.439 --> 01:49:01.239
<v Speaker 2>is a possibility.

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<v Speaker 1>So with this type of thing, do you think it's

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01:49:04.199 --> 01:49:06.319
<v Speaker 1>possible to have zero point energy? Do you believe in

1686
01:49:06.399 --> 01:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>zero points?

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01:49:08.760 --> 01:49:13.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? No, no's that's bullship. That's that's I mean, you're

1688
01:49:13.560 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Speaker 2>not asking a question that makes any sense. Your question? Okay,

1689
01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:22.000
<v Speaker 2>how do you say that? How moof Gang moof Gang

1690
01:49:25.079 --> 01:49:31.399
<v Speaker 2>Pali one of the father's farm. Okay, not not even wrong?

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01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Long You don't speak you don't speak the language capech.

1692
01:49:40.760 --> 01:49:46.520
<v Speaker 2>I mean you don't you know what your sentence, Your

1693
01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:54.640
<v Speaker 2>sentence is ill posed, Okay, for for for us scientists,

1694
01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:57.560
<v Speaker 2>for serious for serious people.

1695
01:49:58.960 --> 01:50:01.479
<v Speaker 1>A different way, I've looked at this paper between you

1696
01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:04.239
<v Speaker 1>and kind shoulders, where you talk about exotic vacuum objects

1697
01:50:04.279 --> 01:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>and their.

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01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:07.159
<v Speaker 2>Ability to wait, wait, who shoulders?

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01:50:07.319 --> 01:50:13.000
<v Speaker 1>You and kind of shoulders from the exotic vacuum. No yeah, yeah, no, No.

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01:50:13.159 --> 01:50:16.560
<v Speaker 2>First of all, forget that paper. I actually didn't write it.

1701
01:50:16.680 --> 01:50:19.560
<v Speaker 2>He wrote it, and that was back. Yeah, the whole

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01:50:19.600 --> 01:50:22.359
<v Speaker 2>story Ken's shoulders. He was the experiment of that. He

1703
01:50:22.479 --> 01:50:25.239
<v Speaker 2>actually had some interesting things, but he didn't know any physics.

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01:50:25.279 --> 01:50:28.239
<v Speaker 2>I didn't actually write the paper. I never actually approved it,

1705
01:50:28.600 --> 01:50:30.439
<v Speaker 2>and I sort of letter he's the nice guys. I

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01:50:30.479 --> 01:50:33.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't say I'm not Vaca, I'm out of academia. Anyway.

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01:50:33.720 --> 01:50:36.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't give a shit. But you know, if that's

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01:50:36.640 --> 01:50:38.199
<v Speaker 2>your source of information.

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01:50:38.760 --> 01:50:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I just did a little bit of research. I'm just curious.

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01:50:40.720 --> 01:50:43.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay, but it's a I haven't looked at

1711
01:50:43.399 --> 01:50:45.399
<v Speaker 2>that thing for like thirty years, twenty five years. Whatever

1712
01:50:45.520 --> 01:50:48.119
<v Speaker 2>he wrote. He's an interesting that's a whole story. He

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01:50:48.319 --> 01:50:50.560
<v Speaker 2>spent the whole hour about Ken shoulders. He was he

1714
01:50:50.680 --> 01:50:53.800
<v Speaker 2>was a spoof. He's cute. Do you ever see that

1715
01:50:53.960 --> 01:50:55.880
<v Speaker 2>he's one of these guys who made all these instruments

1716
01:50:55.920 --> 01:50:58.760
<v Speaker 2>from the CIA and you know all these secret you know,

1717
01:50:58.840 --> 01:51:01.199
<v Speaker 2>little tens that do this that you know, you mean,

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01:51:01.319 --> 01:51:06.119
<v Speaker 2>James Bond was a Q and yeah, yeah he was

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01:51:06.520 --> 01:51:09.319
<v Speaker 2>for the Americans. He was the American qu. Yeah, he

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01:51:09.439 --> 01:51:11.399
<v Speaker 2>do how put up and all these guys. He's an

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01:51:11.399 --> 01:51:14.000
<v Speaker 2>interesting guy, creative man. And he had his own he

1722
01:51:14.039 --> 01:51:16.119
<v Speaker 2>had his own auto gyr, had his own little private

1723
01:51:16.359 --> 01:51:19.439
<v Speaker 2>one man helicopter. They had all these turkeys and big

1724
01:51:19.520 --> 01:51:23.479
<v Speaker 2>turkey farm. And he's a real character etcentric, interesting that guy.

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01:51:23.560 --> 01:51:28.520
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, okay, figure and ask a question. Trying to

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01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:30.119
<v Speaker 2>ask me another question, I'll see.

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01:51:30.479 --> 01:51:32.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So my next one is going to be,

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01:51:32.279 --> 01:51:34.520
<v Speaker 1>do you think we can achieve superluminal speeds? Going back

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01:51:34.560 --> 01:51:36.720
<v Speaker 1>to what you were showing before with the David Grush stuff,

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01:51:37.079 --> 01:51:40.000
<v Speaker 1>in terms of how these tic TACs may operate? Do

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01:51:40.000 --> 01:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you think those are yes?

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01:51:40.880 --> 01:51:43.319
<v Speaker 2>And the answer is yes, The answer is yes, And

1733
01:51:43.399 --> 01:51:50.720
<v Speaker 2>there you have to go on vimeo Vimeo. Well maybe

1734
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I can do it from here.

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01:51:52.159 --> 01:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he probably can.

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01:51:55.359 --> 01:51:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wait a second, Wait a second, Wait a second,

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01:51:57.680 --> 01:52:03.079
<v Speaker 2>wait a second, Let me go to let me go to.

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01:52:04.359 --> 01:52:07.479
<v Speaker 1>Uh so we're going to see your wole search history here.

1739
01:52:08.680 --> 01:52:11.880
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, that's all right, So honey.

1740
01:52:12.039 --> 01:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>He's got nothing to hide you.

1741
01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:25.960
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, honey, that's what it comes up. Uh yeah,

1742
01:52:26.960 --> 01:52:29.399
<v Speaker 2>where's uh you have a lot of this thing?

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01:52:29.600 --> 01:52:31.439
<v Speaker 1>Are you looking to the one that I clipped the

1744
01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>other day? With the head.

1745
01:52:33.000 --> 01:52:37.720
<v Speaker 2>You're no that that that yeah, no, that that's a

1746
01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:40.000
<v Speaker 2>good one. But that's the one that was good looking good,

1747
01:52:43.439 --> 01:52:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the one okay going.

1748
01:52:48.279 --> 01:52:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully, well, I'm not sure we're gonna be able to

1749
01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:51.880
<v Speaker 1>hear it.

1750
01:52:52.199 --> 01:52:57.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the one. Okay, So it says, okay, now,

1751
01:52:57.479 --> 01:53:01.479
<v Speaker 2>since you don't have a lot of patience, let me

1752
01:53:01.560 --> 01:53:04.960
<v Speaker 2>get to the part. Where is the part? Let me

1753
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:08.000
<v Speaker 2>do I see? Am I able to just have a.

1754
01:53:08.000 --> 01:53:09.600
<v Speaker 1>Lot of questions for you. I want to make sure

1755
01:53:09.600 --> 01:53:10.159
<v Speaker 1>we get through as.

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01:53:13.159 --> 01:53:18.199
<v Speaker 4>He got tenser to the yeah, wait, wait, wait, let

1757
01:53:18.199 --> 01:53:25.000
<v Speaker 4>me answer, wait, let me contend, let me let me

1758
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:32.039
<v Speaker 4>start metric system. And what it shows is that the

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01:53:32.119 --> 01:53:36.039
<v Speaker 4>ice story it's basically reciprocal of what you might call

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01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:39.239
<v Speaker 4>in string theory, the string tension, which is basically the

1761
01:53:39.319 --> 01:53:43.000
<v Speaker 4>reciprocal of the force in Newton's So string tension is

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01:53:43.119 --> 01:53:47.359
<v Speaker 4>like the space time stiffness of the fabric of I

1763
01:53:47.399 --> 01:53:51.479
<v Speaker 4>didn't really want to do that for the bending by energy.

1764
01:53:52.199 --> 01:53:57.479
<v Speaker 4>So these are just different ways of looking at this concept,

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01:53:57.960 --> 01:54:02.760
<v Speaker 4>which is helpful for physicists to conceive new ideas. This

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01:54:02.920 --> 01:54:07.560
<v Speaker 4>is the most important idea in all of Einstein's relativity theory.

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01:54:08.000 --> 01:54:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Both the special theory of nineteen oh five, which didn't

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01:54:11.720 --> 01:54:16.880
<v Speaker 4>have any gravity in it, and did nineteen fifteen theory

1769
01:54:17.560 --> 01:54:22.199
<v Speaker 4>of general relativity that incorporated the gravitational field using the

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01:54:22.520 --> 01:54:29.359
<v Speaker 4>equivalence principle of weightless warp drive and the action reaction principle.

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01:54:30.640 --> 01:54:34.479
<v Speaker 4>And so this is the light the basic light cone structure.

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01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:42.319
<v Speaker 4>It's an invariant all observers, no matter how they're moving,

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01:54:42.439 --> 01:54:47.800
<v Speaker 4>whether they're accelerating not accelerating. We'll see the invariant local

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01:54:48.359 --> 01:54:52.800
<v Speaker 4>light cone. This is a bedrock upon which the well.

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01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:57.600
<v Speaker 4>This is the cornerstone of the temple of Einstein's relativity theory.

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01:55:00.159 --> 01:55:04.039
<v Speaker 4>We have a picture from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy

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01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:09.479
<v Speaker 4>showing a four dimensional space time in which there is

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01:55:09.560 --> 01:55:13.680
<v Speaker 4>no gravity. It's totally flat in the four dimensional sense.

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01:55:14.239 --> 01:55:16.960
<v Speaker 4>And you think of the light cones like little arrows,

1780
01:55:17.039 --> 01:55:22.720
<v Speaker 4>little spins analogous to magnetic moments in a ferromagnet, or

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01:55:22.880 --> 01:55:27.520
<v Speaker 4>analogous to electric dipoles and Stuart hammer offs microtubules that

1782
01:55:27.680 --> 01:55:30.199
<v Speaker 4>might be the seed of our consciousness. And you see

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01:55:30.239 --> 01:55:33.680
<v Speaker 4>they're all lined up parallel. There's no relative tilt of

1784
01:55:33.840 --> 01:55:38.079
<v Speaker 4>neighboring light cones to each other. That means is zero curvature.

1785
01:55:38.560 --> 01:55:43.119
<v Speaker 4>This picture of curvature of space time as the tilting

1786
01:55:43.239 --> 01:55:47.960
<v Speaker 4>the relative tilting of light cones is due to Roger Penrose,

1787
01:55:48.279 --> 01:55:51.800
<v Speaker 4>who recently got a Nobel Prize along with Stephen Hawking

1788
01:55:51.960 --> 01:55:56.159
<v Speaker 4>for their work on black holes. So here we see

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01:55:56.399 --> 01:56:01.239
<v Speaker 4>again a key construct in the classic theory of relativity.

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01:56:02.119 --> 01:56:07.680
<v Speaker 4>I say classical because it omits quantum epr entanglement effects

1791
01:56:08.039 --> 01:56:11.359
<v Speaker 4>that changes the ball game. But we won't get into

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01:56:11.439 --> 01:56:15.560
<v Speaker 4>that now. That's a more advanced topic that in particular

1793
01:56:15.720 --> 01:56:19.920
<v Speaker 4>Roderick Sutherland down in Australia and his papers has shown

1794
01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:23.399
<v Speaker 4>how to extend this notion. But this is the notion

1795
01:56:23.720 --> 01:56:27.840
<v Speaker 4>of a retarded causation, which is also the basis of

1796
01:56:28.000 --> 01:56:33.840
<v Speaker 4>Bell's locality inequality, which is actually violated in quantum mechanics.

1797
01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:38.880
<v Speaker 4>So here what this only works in vacuum, and Alice

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01:56:40.119 --> 01:56:45.319
<v Speaker 4>is past like cone must intersect Bob's future like cone

1799
01:56:45.960 --> 01:56:48.399
<v Speaker 4>in order for Alice to see what Bob is doing

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01:56:49.159 --> 01:56:55.840
<v Speaker 4>using what are called transverse polarized far field electromagnetic signals.

1801
01:56:57.359 --> 01:57:02.680
<v Speaker 4>Einstein called them light rays, but it's more general than that. Now,

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01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:08.039
<v Speaker 4>this is what fast than light travel is not. This

1803
01:57:08.159 --> 01:57:11.159
<v Speaker 4>is what people tend to think it is where where

1804
01:57:11.319 --> 01:57:15.199
<v Speaker 4>the UFO is actually traveling outside the light cone. When

1805
01:57:15.199 --> 01:57:17.199
<v Speaker 4>it's outside the light cone, it's like at tachi on

1806
01:57:17.279 --> 01:57:19.960
<v Speaker 4>it's fast in light. But that's not what warp driver is.

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01:57:21.159 --> 01:57:24.439
<v Speaker 4>Warp drive is very different warp drivers motion without motion.

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01:57:24.640 --> 01:57:28.560
<v Speaker 4>It's the actual controlled tilting of light cones, of neighboring

1809
01:57:28.640 --> 01:57:32.399
<v Speaker 4>light cones, the relative tilting that is controlling the curvature

1810
01:57:32.479 --> 01:57:36.680
<v Speaker 4>field directly with small amounts of energy. That's the key,

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01:57:36.880 --> 01:57:41.680
<v Speaker 4>small amounts of energy. This again is a slide from

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01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:48.479
<v Speaker 4>the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on relativity, and it shows

1813
01:57:48.640 --> 01:57:52.119
<v Speaker 4>the formation of a black hole with the event horizon.

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01:57:52.560 --> 01:57:55.359
<v Speaker 4>I will not go into detail on that at this

1815
01:57:55.640 --> 01:58:02.279
<v Speaker 4>particular time, but just check out the Sanford Encyclopedia Philosophy.

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01:58:01.760 --> 01:58:07.239
<v Speaker 2>On light Cones. Here we have the extreme case of

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01:58:07.359 --> 01:58:10.920
<v Speaker 2>the correct way to think about fast and light warp drive,

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01:58:11.479 --> 01:58:15.359
<v Speaker 2>which may contradict. Actually, I'm not sure all the published

1819
01:58:15.399 --> 01:58:18.520
<v Speaker 2>papers by Alcubery and everyone else in Ontario, all of them,

1820
01:58:19.479 --> 01:58:23.760
<v Speaker 2>they may not understand this, but we'll see. Time will tell.

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01:58:24.399 --> 01:58:28.640
<v Speaker 2>And here what's happening. Alice is in fast and light

1822
01:58:28.840 --> 01:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>warp drive relative to Bob and so what we see

1823
01:58:33.199 --> 01:58:37.079
<v Speaker 2>is that Alice's light cone is now tilted at ninety

1824
01:58:37.159 --> 01:58:40.479
<v Speaker 2>degrees to Bob's light cone. This is the extreme case.

1825
01:58:41.119 --> 01:58:45.479
<v Speaker 2>So light cones are perpendicular to each other, and therefore

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01:58:46.439 --> 01:58:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Alice is able to see what's in front of her

1827
01:58:50.560 --> 01:58:55.960
<v Speaker 2>future from retard as signals from the future light cone

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01:58:56.000 --> 01:59:01.479
<v Speaker 2>of Bob. This is unusual to see normally, Normally, Alice's

1829
01:59:02.119 --> 01:59:06.239
<v Speaker 2>past light cone must intersect Bob's future light cone. That's

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01:59:06.239 --> 01:59:08.399
<v Speaker 2>when there's no gravity, when there's no curvature at all,

1831
01:59:08.479 --> 01:59:10.640
<v Speaker 2>that's the way it is. But when you have warp

1832
01:59:10.760 --> 01:59:14.399
<v Speaker 2>drive in an extreme case, when it goes globally faster

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<v Speaker 2>than light, even though locally it's not fast than light

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<v Speaker 2>inside the light cone. But so when Alan now alice

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<v Speaker 2>is red future light cone intersects Bob's red future light cone.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's the situation. So you see, there is no

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<v Speaker 2>event horizon the way some of the papers say there is.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, Alice is not blind at all. She

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01:59:38.680 --> 01:59:41.479
<v Speaker 2>can see what she can see Bob in front of her.

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<v Speaker 2>So there we are. So Alice controls the orientation of

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<v Speaker 2>her UFO's local light cone relative to the cosmological hubble

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01:59:51.359 --> 01:59:55.239
<v Speaker 2>flow with small amounts of energy using the effect I

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<v Speaker 2>first revealed at the darker NASA one hundred Years Starship

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01:59:59.760 --> 02:00:04.479
<v Speaker 2>or end of October twenty eleven meeting. So here I

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<v Speaker 2>have a picture of what I was talking about before,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully a little bit clearer. And you can see that

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<v Speaker 2>Alice departs the Earth and say goes to Mars very quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>And one can see in the middle of the flight

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<v Speaker 2>there that Alice at position A sees C position C

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of her, because the retarded light ray from C

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<v Speaker 2>reaches Alice at A. That is because again Alice's future

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<v Speaker 2>light cone intersex Bob's at see his future like cones.

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<v Speaker 2>So when the two future light cones intersect, then there

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<v Speaker 2>is no more event horizon in the sense that Alqubery

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<v Speaker 2>and others have said there is. I think they're just mistaken.

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<v Speaker 2>They just made a mistake about that. I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll find out. Time will tell. And here we have

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<v Speaker 2>what I've been getting to. Here we have time travel

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<v Speaker 2>back from the future, and we don't have to worry

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<v Speaker 2>about Stephen Hawkings chronology protection conjecture, because this is not

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<v Speaker 2>really a closed timelike curve. It's a close time like curve.

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<v Speaker 2>Is like a short circuit. But this here, you see,

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<v Speaker 2>it's an open circuit. We haven't short it out, so

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<v Speaker 2>there's no catastrophe at all. And I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>not just a theory. This is an explanation of observations.

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<v Speaker 2>See all the weird observations of the flying sources from

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<v Speaker 2>time immemorial for thousands of years can easily be understood

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<v Speaker 2>on the basis of this picture. This is I think

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<v Speaker 2>a real conceptual breakthrough, which none of my colleagues, well

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<v Speaker 2>maybe a few of them. Now maybe jose Rodell understands that.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe a few, but none of none of the big

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<v Speaker 2>the top guns, I think understand what I'm suggesting here.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I'm wrong. Well we shall see.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, there we go, so real quick, I have to

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<v Speaker 1>use the restroom. But can you explain to the audience

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<v Speaker 1>while I go what time dilation is and what your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts are on that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll be O, no, yeah, yeah, no, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to explain. You don't want it's a seliment. This

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<v Speaker 2>is like physics element, this is high school physics.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the reason why I asked is because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to know if there's an impact of time dilation on

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<v Speaker 1>the video that you just saw. If that can help

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<v Speaker 1>explain whether there's no paradox or if you think that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't need that because time might be deterministic in

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<v Speaker 1>the sense that if we went back.

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<v Speaker 2>And no, no, you know what your question makes absolutely no,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like a listening to a schizophratic talk work. It

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<v Speaker 2>makes no sense to me. I don't it makes us

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<v Speaker 2>The whole point about warp drive. If you understood altar,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no time dilation, but you can make it. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's time dilation. You can make the time. But in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the what's called geodesic warp drive, the internal

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<v Speaker 2>clock of the crew inside the ship remains synchronized with

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<v Speaker 2>the clocks outside the ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so uh, without a paradox, then I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>the question why is there a paradox? Well, if the time,

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<v Speaker 1>if the clocks stay in sync, we don't have a

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<v Speaker 1>time dilation effect. As I approached the speed of light,

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<v Speaker 1>then isn't there going to be a situation?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Because you don't understand because you don't understand ship.

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<v Speaker 2>You understood nothing what I said. Because you're thinking like

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<v Speaker 2>Elon Musk. You think is that there's a ship that's

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<v Speaker 2>going through space. It's not the ship is not moving

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<v Speaker 2>through space. It's not special relativity. It's generative. And the

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<v Speaker 2>problem is that most of you humans just not You're

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<v Speaker 2>just too stupid to get it. I think I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm half alien? Yeah, yeah, yeah, my life.

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<v Speaker 2>What I mean by like, by the way, uh C,

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<v Speaker 2>I a John Ramirez and Gary Dolan's got tyler all

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<v Speaker 2>of us working. Most of us are hybrids. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Dolan said he's discovered that there's an extra brain

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<v Speaker 2>structure in all the experiences, all the contacts. You know

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<v Speaker 2>about that, right, you know about that?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh no, tell us about that? While go back through

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<v Speaker 1>my beer back?

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<v Speaker 2>All right, well you should get Gary up. What but okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll take the fee to take a break. O.

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<v Speaker 1>Kah mhm h what's that? What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>Come on?

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<v Speaker 1>What's that?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? Okay? Are we? Uh? What have we got going

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<v Speaker 1>on here? Chat? Did we we took we took a

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<v Speaker 1>copy break?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Just a minute. Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>I can hear you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you can hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Really, you yourself, We're gonna let me listen.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the blue tooth. The blue the blue tooth reaches

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<v Speaker 2>over to the toilet. Listen, then I'm walking back. Make

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<v Speaker 2>sure my pants, make sure I look decent here just

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<v Speaker 2>a minute, see if the chat could hear you? That's

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<v Speaker 2>all right? Here? Did you hear that?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure. I can't tell it from the chat.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like maybe they didn't in said anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, no, wait, we just got to put this on probably.

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<v Speaker 1>A little intermission there.

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<v Speaker 2>That was good, little a little and know we had

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<v Speaker 2>and we had some emissions too. How about mission all right?

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<v Speaker 2>So where where were we at now?

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<v Speaker 1>How about stop sharing for just a second. We can

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<v Speaker 1>just have a conversation and then if we need to

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<v Speaker 1>go back to the whiteboard.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, okay, so how do I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>Should be at the top to shop?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, stop sharing all right?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, because I want to get some I want to

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<v Speaker 1>get your opinion on a few more people. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna throw some names out there. Oh wait, we've got

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<v Speaker 1>double jacks are fighting and let me remove this person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you gave away the give it the zoom

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<v Speaker 1>to a few too many people. Okay, So what are

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on Thomas Bearden and scaler physics in general?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that that's a way to achieve gravity

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<v Speaker 1>manipulation with zero.

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<v Speaker 2>Electronic It's total crap. My blood pressure because he's an idiot.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He

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<v Speaker 2>was a spook, he's a crack pod. Okay, nothing to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. How about Thomas Toutson Brown? What do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about him? Do you ever get to meet him?

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<v Speaker 2>No? More bullshit, more bullshit?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>What about?

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<v Speaker 1>What about Salvator Paiez who has a super force theory.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems very similar to yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Crap, another crack pond incompetent.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh? And what about uh? Actually that's all I

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<v Speaker 1>have for names. How about the idea of super conductivity?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think LK ninety nine you follow that at

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<v Speaker 1>all this last summer? Or I think there was an

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<v Speaker 1>American Physical Society thing? What are your thoughts on that?

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<v Speaker 2>Why? Shy, I don't have anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that people have tried to debunk in

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<v Speaker 1>and say it's not really super conductive?

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<v Speaker 2>Why you ask me such a stupid question? A stupid

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<v Speaker 2>question asked me. I'm not working. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>i'd love it to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's my next question, because so I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>better question, smarter question is I've seen you say that

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<v Speaker 1>you think that meta materials can achieve super conductivity through

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<v Speaker 1>potentially precise crystal lattice structures. What why is that important

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<v Speaker 1>for anti gravity or whatever you want to call it

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<v Speaker 1>anti gravity?

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<v Speaker 2>That's a better question. That's a better question. It's room temperature. Yep, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>now I have to go back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we gotta go back to the white more. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get it back up?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And while you do that, do you think that AI

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<v Speaker 1>can help us find those types of meta materials?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course? Yes, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think we'll see gravity control and next twenty years?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty five years? Do you think we already have it?

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're asking kind of a dumb question. We're seeing

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<v Speaker 2>it all the time after bufos?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but those are asking, right, Some of them we

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, some of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them are yeah, not all of them. Let's see what

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<v Speaker 2>happened then you've seen yeah, Okay, are we seeing my stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, we're seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So all right, so oh wait, all right, so

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<v Speaker 2>all right, so what are you asking now? Ask the

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<v Speaker 2>question again? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we were talking about super conductivity and

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<v Speaker 1>why it's important room temperature superconnectivity. Why is important for

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<v Speaker 1>gravity manipulation?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, first of all, superconductors.

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<v Speaker 1>For the chat, those are semic conductors with zero electrical resistance.

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<v Speaker 1>They can produce the Measoner effects.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they yeah yeah, if they don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what a super inductor is, they shouldn't even be watching.

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<v Speaker 1>The case.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but okay, that they are thermal thermodynamic dam equilibrium

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<v Speaker 2>librium what are called closed systems. In other words, this

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<v Speaker 2>is the environment, this is the super inductor. This is yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the therma insulating war in other words, you cool it down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's has been you know, temperatures, temperature.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in order to get the cooper pairs to form.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, very low temperature, right music they yeah, mirror

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<v Speaker 2>like a mirror, mirror, a mirror, yeah yeah yeah, A

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<v Speaker 2>pump yeah, photons, pump photons come here. You haven't adams

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<v Speaker 2>h like two level atoms. The pump photons come in

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<v Speaker 2>and they excite the atoms into excited states and then

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<v Speaker 2>and then it's right, then the you know, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>decay aka the excited state and outcomes coherent coherent matter

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<v Speaker 2>laser photons your laser beam, right, mhm. In an open system,

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<v Speaker 2>not an equilibrium, non equilibrium kah. Now after supereductor, superconductor

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<v Speaker 2>has a giant yeah, giant wave function wave function. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>hear it inside. You know, the Cooper pairs. Cooper pairs

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<v Speaker 2>are all what's called the boss. So like, what's a

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<v Speaker 2>Bose Einstein condensate because laser sam here, but there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a giant wave function there, kh oh in Alayser is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly equal? Will be well, it's neutral, so be a

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<v Speaker 2>super a laser is a non equilibrium equilibrium the uh

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<v Speaker 2>superfluid like helium superfluid.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the laser the photons onto.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, wave like john equilibrium okay, yeah, general meta

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<v Speaker 2>material yeah, the you know you have the the meta

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<v Speaker 2>artificial atoms artificial official meta atoms mm hm, metsa atoms.

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<v Speaker 1>There structure here.

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<v Speaker 2>Then yeah, let's think of about something quantum dots. Look

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<v Speaker 2>at look at quantum dots. It's a good example for

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02:14:49.359 --> 02:14:58.399
<v Speaker 2>example quant dots. Okay, mhm, but they have you have

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02:14:59.439 --> 02:15:10.520
<v Speaker 2>you have pump hm, some photons coming in chelaser and

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02:15:10.640 --> 02:15:21.640
<v Speaker 2>what happens is, okay, here's a photon photon and here

2047
02:15:21.760 --> 02:15:27.720
<v Speaker 2>is a meta atom and it's actually a bunch of

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02:15:27.800 --> 02:15:29.640
<v Speaker 2>and there are a bunch of meta and the meta

2049
02:15:29.720 --> 02:15:35.600
<v Speaker 2>atoms are interacting with each other. Okay, a meta atoms,

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02:15:37.039 --> 02:15:45.159
<v Speaker 2>any any many particles, systems, any many particle system forms,

2051
02:15:45.399 --> 02:15:58.760
<v Speaker 2>emergent emergent what are called quasi particles, the particles and

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02:15:58.880 --> 02:16:08.039
<v Speaker 2>also collective mode, collective modes. Well, so you look at

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02:16:08.039 --> 02:16:11.600
<v Speaker 2>the entire look up normal loads, normal loads of oscillation,

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02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:23.760
<v Speaker 2>loads of oscillation. Okay, so now it's like a laser

2055
02:16:25.439 --> 02:16:34.440
<v Speaker 2>open system. Alright, look a lasers. Now what happens? So say,

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02:16:34.479 --> 02:16:45.159
<v Speaker 2>here's a this is the fuselage minim meta material. Yeah,

2057
02:16:54.079 --> 02:17:00.799
<v Speaker 2>and you have an energy store, some kind of pump,

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02:17:02.680 --> 02:17:07.760
<v Speaker 2>photons and right here the pump, the photon, the photon

2059
02:17:07.840 --> 02:17:13.040
<v Speaker 2>here it interacts with these, It interacts with these better

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02:17:13.079 --> 02:17:16.479
<v Speaker 2>adds that it forms. Let me use a different notes color.

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02:17:19.040 --> 02:17:29.959
<v Speaker 2>Hang on, h So these little wiggles, those are let's

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<v Speaker 2>call them the quasi particles, the quasi particles. Okay, uh,

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02:17:42.079 --> 02:17:54.280
<v Speaker 2>Now like photons, they mixed their hybrids, hybrid some photons

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02:17:57.840 --> 02:18:05.719
<v Speaker 2>photons with with the better adams. Yeah, what were we

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02:18:05.799 --> 02:18:11.040
<v Speaker 2>configue up there? Like the things like pulatons like fullara

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02:18:11.159 --> 02:18:22.520
<v Speaker 2>times pollitons, like they're like photons photons plus electric dipoles,

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02:18:24.239 --> 02:18:31.879
<v Speaker 2>electric dipoles. The meta atom, the meta atom is electric dipoles.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, we are a microtubules. You know our

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<v Speaker 2>bodies micro tubules. We are meta material. We are meta material.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a material. In fact, all living matter h is

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<v Speaker 2>meta material. Then we're artificial artificial not official right where where?

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<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, yeah we're yeah, we're we are organic organic,

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02:19:24.799 --> 02:19:34.719
<v Speaker 2>organic molecular right and you can think of it thinking

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02:19:34.760 --> 02:19:46.440
<v Speaker 2>the Michael tubules are our our like roll roll meta surfaces.

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<v Speaker 2>If you go to hammer up, you go to Steward

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02:19:55.399 --> 02:19:59.120
<v Speaker 2>hammer off. H.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we might have to just for brevity, we might

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02:20:02.159 --> 02:20:03.840
<v Speaker 1>have to skip the whiteboard here because I think that

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02:20:03.879 --> 02:20:05.319
<v Speaker 1>you could just we can just say some of this

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<v Speaker 1>here in general.

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02:20:07.360 --> 02:20:09.440
<v Speaker 2>No, no, really no I can't. I don't want to

2082
02:20:09.479 --> 02:20:13.879
<v Speaker 2>skip organizes. My mind is my mind. I think visually.

2083
02:20:13.879 --> 02:20:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think of audio. And you know people have

2084
02:20:22.600 --> 02:20:25.840
<v Speaker 2>weak minds. They you know, this is not for everybody.

2085
02:20:27.879 --> 02:20:30.520
<v Speaker 2>This is only the best and the brightest, the best,

2086
02:20:31.200 --> 02:20:43.200
<v Speaker 2>the brightest with strong minds. But like the Marines, you

2087
02:20:43.280 --> 02:20:45.440
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, we don't want to know. No

2088
02:20:45.600 --> 02:20:55.639
<v Speaker 2>more weak pukes, No more weak pukes. No, no, no, snowflakes, flakes.

2089
02:20:56.840 --> 02:21:00.239
<v Speaker 2>This is not a space, not a safe space.

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02:21:01.920 --> 02:21:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Definitely not This is definitely not a space. This we'll see.

2091
02:21:07.799 --> 02:21:08.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, come on.

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02:21:09.120 --> 02:21:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So back to super connectivity though, we are trying

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02:21:12.239 --> 02:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>to get what the nature of it related gravity is.

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02:21:14.920 --> 02:21:16.399
<v Speaker 1>So let's let's focus.

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02:21:16.200 --> 02:21:18.959
<v Speaker 2>On that dead there. But you can't get there too

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02:21:19.040 --> 02:21:21.959
<v Speaker 2>fast or you don't have ship you get there too fast.

2097
02:21:22.719 --> 02:21:26.200
<v Speaker 2>You're like, Hi, you got towns in brown.

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<v Speaker 3>With Savage. That would be a great conversation. I feel

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02:21:30.639 --> 02:21:32.920
<v Speaker 3>like you, guys, No, it wouldn't. I wouldn't waste my

2100
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<v Speaker 3>time because you know what, E's actually a very nice man.

2101
02:21:36.040 --> 02:21:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I see it was a nice Italian man, nice guy.

2102
02:21:40.719 --> 02:21:43.079
<v Speaker 3>And I don't want to destroy him personally because I

2103
02:21:43.559 --> 02:21:48.200
<v Speaker 3>just destroy him, you think, so, I think absolutely no,

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02:21:48.520 --> 02:21:49.200
<v Speaker 3>absolutely no.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a fucking PhD in direco physics strained by Hanspeder

2106
02:21:53.079 --> 02:21:55.200
<v Speaker 2>and he's just some kind of low level degree.

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02:21:55.399 --> 02:21:56.799
<v Speaker 1>I think he's got all though.

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02:21:56.840 --> 02:21:59.959
<v Speaker 2>Actually, if I'm where, I have to look it up

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02:22:00.079 --> 02:22:00.600
<v Speaker 2>and see.

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<v Speaker 1>What you're going.

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02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:05.040
<v Speaker 2>You keep going though, Yeah no, yeah, but one of

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02:22:05.079 --> 02:22:08.280
<v Speaker 2>his back I'm curious now what is his what is

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02:22:08.360 --> 02:22:10.200
<v Speaker 2>his educational background?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we're going to do the site. So yeah,

2115
02:22:12.120 --> 02:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>so he has his PhD and Mechanical and Aerospace engineering

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02:22:16.559 --> 02:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety nine another subject of bubble generation or

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02:22:20.120 --> 02:22:23.959
<v Speaker 1>reduced gravity conditions for both co flow and crosslow configurations.

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02:22:24.959 --> 02:22:29.600
<v Speaker 1>Uh it was from case Western Reserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but not a venue. But you know what, none

2120
02:22:33.079 --> 02:22:35.399
<v Speaker 2>of what he learned is relevant to the pusiness not

2121
02:22:35.559 --> 02:22:38.559
<v Speaker 2>He's not a theoretical that gravity he was doing was

2122
02:22:38.680 --> 02:22:41.760
<v Speaker 2>observational stuff on Newtony and gravity had nothing to do

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02:22:41.840 --> 02:22:44.600
<v Speaker 2>with general relativity. He doesn't understand it.

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02:22:45.440 --> 02:22:47.319
<v Speaker 1>His equations are pretty similar to yours, I thought, but

2125
02:22:47.479 --> 02:22:48.040
<v Speaker 1>go ahead.

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02:22:48.040 --> 02:22:50.840
<v Speaker 2>No they're not because you're an asshole muck who doesn't

2127
02:22:50.879 --> 02:22:54.600
<v Speaker 2>know what the fucking saying. There's no idea but like mine.

2128
02:22:55.239 --> 02:23:00.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, there's no comparison. You don't know anything. Yeah,

2129
02:23:00.360 --> 02:23:03.479
<v Speaker 2>you're totally ignorant. The academia works a different special what

2130
02:23:03.559 --> 02:23:07.319
<v Speaker 2>physics is different specializations. He's an engineer. He did not

2131
02:23:07.479 --> 02:23:10.319
<v Speaker 2>take the kinds of course as I took. And he

2132
02:23:10.399 --> 02:23:12.159
<v Speaker 2>doesn't know what I know, and I don't know what

2133
02:23:12.280 --> 02:23:15.280
<v Speaker 2>he knows. By the way, this is science is big,

2134
02:23:15.479 --> 02:23:20.200
<v Speaker 2>it's very special he's specialized. I'm sure he knows, you know,

2135
02:23:20.280 --> 02:23:23.040
<v Speaker 2>his narrow field of mechanical engineering in a certain things

2136
02:23:23.040 --> 02:23:26.280
<v Speaker 2>he knows which I would not pretend to know. Well,

2137
02:23:26.319 --> 02:23:29.559
<v Speaker 2>so he doesn't know what I know. He's not qualified. Okay, Wait,

2138
02:23:29.639 --> 02:23:33.159
<v Speaker 2>it's like he is. Like with doctors. There's a guy

2139
02:23:33.319 --> 02:23:37.680
<v Speaker 2>saying who fixes broken bones, and he's and there's a

2140
02:23:37.760 --> 02:23:41.000
<v Speaker 2>brain surgery a guy who fixes your broken bone. You

2141
02:23:41.040 --> 02:23:43.200
<v Speaker 2>don't want him to operate on your brain. They're two

2142
02:23:43.280 --> 02:23:48.360
<v Speaker 2>separate things. They're bunt doctors, okay, and in their respective fields,

2143
02:23:48.559 --> 02:23:53.159
<v Speaker 2>and they respect same thing here, he's not qualified in

2144
02:23:53.280 --> 02:23:57.559
<v Speaker 2>this field. What he says has no weight. In fact,

2145
02:23:57.559 --> 02:23:59.879
<v Speaker 2>that's wrong period.

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<v Speaker 1>Respectfully.

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02:24:03.000 --> 02:24:06.079
<v Speaker 2>There was and it was a scandal that the Navy

2148
02:24:06.200 --> 02:24:08.600
<v Speaker 2>is incompetent to people around him in the fucking Navy.

2149
02:24:08.719 --> 02:24:09.559
<v Speaker 2>They should be fired.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think so? Don't you like? My opinion is

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02:24:13.079 --> 02:24:16.239
<v Speaker 1>that he's actually like seen some UFOs personally. Otherwise how

2152
02:24:16.239 --> 02:24:16.760
<v Speaker 1>would he come up?

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02:24:16.840 --> 02:24:19.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh, well, that's stupid. I'm not talking about I'm not

2154
02:24:19.399 --> 02:24:22.479
<v Speaker 2>talking about that. I'm talking about the patents. They wasted

2155
02:24:22.559 --> 02:24:25.959
<v Speaker 2>money on patents than any good things. This right away.

2156
02:24:25.959 --> 02:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows it. Look bullshit, I'm not the only one.

2157
02:24:29.840 --> 02:24:32.239
<v Speaker 2>It's the consensus of a competent people.

2158
02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:34.479
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll see.

2159
02:24:35.799 --> 02:24:38.159
<v Speaker 2>He's a nice man. I don't want to be, you know,

2160
02:24:38.760 --> 02:24:41.559
<v Speaker 2>nice man personally. Nothing handsome personally.

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02:24:42.680 --> 02:24:45.120
<v Speaker 1>So you think those patents though, are what do they

2162
02:24:45.159 --> 02:24:47.079
<v Speaker 1>call limited hangout? Is that what they call it? Where

2163
02:24:47.079 --> 02:24:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it's like you think it's.

2164
02:24:49.719 --> 02:24:51.959
<v Speaker 2>No, that's just that that that the people are stupid

2165
02:24:52.760 --> 02:24:55.040
<v Speaker 2>people in the patent of it's a stupid the people

2166
02:24:55.120 --> 02:24:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the Navy is stupid by it's just stupid, and it's

2167
02:24:58.079 --> 02:25:00.799
<v Speaker 2>just the Triumph is stupid. Well, an idiotocracy living in

2168
02:25:00.840 --> 02:25:04.159
<v Speaker 2>a very stupid society right now. And it's because because

2169
02:25:04.200 --> 02:25:06.799
<v Speaker 2>everything's been dumbed down with a bad education for threeople

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02:25:06.959 --> 02:25:10.799
<v Speaker 2>for generations, and and that's why the United States is

2171
02:25:10.840 --> 02:25:14.559
<v Speaker 2>going down. We're going under. I'm going under because because

2172
02:25:14.639 --> 02:25:17.280
<v Speaker 2>compared to other countries, we have a lot of stupid

2173
02:25:17.319 --> 02:25:20.520
<v Speaker 2>people running things. And then we get into that. So

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02:25:20.760 --> 02:25:21.360
<v Speaker 2>let's get back.

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02:25:21.600 --> 02:25:26.559
<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to the super conductivity here, so a

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02:25:26.600 --> 02:25:26.959
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so the meta material, let me let let's go

2178
02:25:30.600 --> 02:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>back a lot of people. That's okay. So so here's

2179
02:25:35.799 --> 02:25:46.399
<v Speaker 2>the UFO. This is a meta material, meta material.

2180
02:25:46.559 --> 02:25:49.840
<v Speaker 1>You think that's bismuth magnesium zinc potentially as a meta material,

2181
02:25:49.879 --> 02:25:50.360
<v Speaker 1>and they talk.

2182
02:25:50.280 --> 02:25:52.280
<v Speaker 2>About I don't know if I don't, I don't know that.

2183
02:25:52.760 --> 02:25:53.120
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

2184
02:25:53.360 --> 02:25:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't.

2185
02:25:53.680 --> 02:25:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Don't ask me. It's stupid. Okay, we don't know what.

2186
02:25:58.040 --> 02:26:01.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what, there's a whole other thing we have

2187
02:26:01.319 --> 02:26:04.840
<v Speaker 2>to get retrieved material from the UFO. Well, that's a

2188
02:26:04.879 --> 02:26:09.319
<v Speaker 2>whole other story about it. I don't I'm not. I'm

2189
02:26:09.360 --> 02:26:13.079
<v Speaker 2>not ask Gary Nolan or ask Larry Limp. I'm not,

2190
02:26:13.319 --> 02:26:15.959
<v Speaker 2>you know, doing the research on the business. I have

2191
02:26:16.120 --> 02:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>my doubts about it. But yeah, I don't know. I

2192
02:26:19.959 --> 02:26:21.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have to know that. That's not the way, that's

2193
02:26:21.959 --> 02:26:24.399
<v Speaker 2>not the level I operate on. That's not what physics is.

2194
02:26:24.479 --> 02:26:28.399
<v Speaker 2>What theoretical does like me do. Okay, Now, now the

2195
02:26:28.520 --> 02:26:31.719
<v Speaker 2>point is the point is I'm most say saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So the point is there's some energy sauce in here.

2197
02:26:34.239 --> 02:26:40.040
<v Speaker 2>There's an energy source, like an energy source, you know,

2198
02:26:40.079 --> 02:26:45.600
<v Speaker 2>it's a pump, pump. Okay, it's an energy sauce, and

2199
02:26:45.760 --> 02:26:50.360
<v Speaker 2>that energy source is activating. Yeah, so it's forming a

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02:26:51.639 --> 02:27:06.879
<v Speaker 2>what's called the room temperature temperature for sure, Let's call

2201
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<v Speaker 2>it like a yeah, uh, let's call it let's call

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<v Speaker 2>it a h macro quantum coherent for heerent uh. They

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02:27:27.840 --> 02:27:36.280
<v Speaker 2>call it it's technical then order parameter, order parameter. You

2204
02:27:36.319 --> 02:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>can think of it's a giant. It's like a giant

2205
02:27:38.319 --> 02:27:39.840
<v Speaker 2>wave function, like a giant.

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02:27:41.120 --> 02:27:43.479
<v Speaker 1>Like a matter wave, coherent matter wave maybe.

2207
02:27:43.600 --> 02:27:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of of these of these quasi particles.

2208
02:27:47.600 --> 02:27:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Lucky Martin is actually patent for a coherent matter wave.

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<v Speaker 1>Being pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know that. Don't don't bring in extremely

2211
02:27:57.879 --> 02:28:01.719
<v Speaker 2>quasi particles. It may maybe simply related, it may not be.

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02:28:01.840 --> 02:28:05.719
<v Speaker 2>I have to see it, all right. So now once

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02:28:05.760 --> 02:28:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you have that, once you have let's say this is

2214
02:28:09.799 --> 02:28:15.120
<v Speaker 2>ci this giant wave function, just like a superconductor, but

2215
02:28:15.239 --> 02:28:18.440
<v Speaker 2>it's a room temperature. I can say it's the squarit

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<v Speaker 2>of n E to the I data. This is what's

2217
02:28:23.959 --> 02:28:27.280
<v Speaker 2>called this is a complex function, complex number. This what's

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02:28:27.360 --> 02:28:37.280
<v Speaker 2>called the polar polar representation sentation. They can't of a

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02:28:37.600 --> 02:28:45.040
<v Speaker 2>complex of a complex number like it. Here's a complex

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02:28:45.120 --> 02:28:50.399
<v Speaker 2>plane and this is this is the n and this

2221
02:28:50.559 --> 02:28:54.280
<v Speaker 2>is like data. This is the this is what called

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02:28:54.319 --> 02:28:59.399
<v Speaker 2>the real part of z of coal on the side.

2223
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<v Speaker 2>This is a real sign. There's the imaginary sign, and

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02:29:12.159 --> 02:29:15.639
<v Speaker 2>that's what this is. Now, this is a giant thing.

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02:29:16.040 --> 02:29:19.479
<v Speaker 2>This n is very big. It could be like like

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<v Speaker 2>ten to the twenty three something like that number. This

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02:29:24.000 --> 02:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>is like the number of This is the number of

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02:29:26.799 --> 02:29:30.959
<v Speaker 2>meta material closet particles in the same single particle quantum

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02:29:31.040 --> 02:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>state like Mozaritstein Chandos say, Okay, now you look at

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02:29:34.920 --> 02:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>that material that does that material has a resonance, has

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<v Speaker 2>a residence. Okay, now we get into the nitty gritty here.

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02:29:49.000 --> 02:29:52.920
<v Speaker 2>That residence is. There's something called i'll call it a bar.

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<v Speaker 2>This is called the electrical firmativity. Mm hmm. It's like

2234
02:30:06.600 --> 02:30:10.440
<v Speaker 2>like dielectric so roughly speeding light. It's similar to dielectric constant,

2235
02:30:11.079 --> 02:30:14.959
<v Speaker 2>but it's a pure number. It's what's called the relative constant. Okay,

2236
02:30:15.040 --> 02:30:19.559
<v Speaker 2>e r the e of e zero. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>vacuum vacuum where square c squared is one of the

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02:30:25.479 --> 02:30:30.159
<v Speaker 2>e zero U zero is three times tens of the

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<v Speaker 2>eight meters or second in vacuum, in what's called in vacuum.

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<v Speaker 2>In vacuum, okay, but the speed of light, the speed

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02:30:46.399 --> 02:30:51.920
<v Speaker 2>of light and in matter is different in matter, and

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02:30:52.040 --> 02:30:56.879
<v Speaker 2>it's called c prime squad is u c squared times

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<v Speaker 2>epsilon Are you are? Is that? Okay? It's different. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you want this, uh the square root of epsilon

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<v Speaker 2>R view, I'm only doing a E R here and

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<v Speaker 2>square to that. That's called the that's sort of the

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02:31:14.600 --> 02:31:23.280
<v Speaker 2>index of refraction, index of refraction. This is all standard physics. Okay,

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02:31:23.840 --> 02:31:29.799
<v Speaker 2>go back. So now, so e R E R is

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02:31:30.440 --> 02:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>one minus omega p squared over omega zero squad minus

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<v Speaker 2>omega squid plus i gamma omega. This is a residence formula.

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02:31:45.760 --> 02:31:49.239
<v Speaker 2>This is called This is called omega P. It is

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02:31:49.360 --> 02:31:58.680
<v Speaker 2>called the plasma frequency plasma frequency, and omega zero is

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02:31:58.760 --> 02:32:08.079
<v Speaker 2>the resonance frequency MH this frequency of the of like

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02:32:08.200 --> 02:32:11.440
<v Speaker 2>the meta Adams from the meta Adams, thet'll say roughly,

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02:32:12.520 --> 02:32:16.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm always a point of it. And omega is

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02:32:16.120 --> 02:32:23.879
<v Speaker 2>the pump external pump frequency. This looks at this, if

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02:32:23.920 --> 02:32:26.440
<v Speaker 2>you plot this, this looks like it's like a residence.

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02:32:28.399 --> 02:32:35.520
<v Speaker 2>This is frequency, and this is her and here this omegas.

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02:32:37.000 --> 02:32:42.239
<v Speaker 2>That's the residence. And this is gamma. The width the

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02:32:42.319 --> 02:32:48.360
<v Speaker 2>within the wid okay, the width of the residents spectroscopy,

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02:32:48.520 --> 02:32:54.840
<v Speaker 2>you know. Okay, so that's the actual math, k H.

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02:32:56.239 --> 02:33:03.280
<v Speaker 2>Now what you do that's good. Look at e R

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02:33:05.600 --> 02:33:09.479
<v Speaker 2>at the residence, at the resident frequency. And if you

2264
02:33:09.600 --> 02:33:14.479
<v Speaker 2>do that, that's sequel to one minus omega the squared

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02:33:15.399 --> 02:33:17.920
<v Speaker 2>the omega zero the first time. You just have I

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<v Speaker 2>I gamma omega zero. Okay, and I can write that

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02:33:25.520 --> 02:33:28.399
<v Speaker 2>is I could write that, well, I I squared is

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02:33:28.479 --> 02:33:37.239
<v Speaker 2>equal to minus one. Imagine, imagine the unit and because

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02:33:37.399 --> 02:33:41.879
<v Speaker 2>plus I, it's this is it's a complex number. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>But but here's the trick. Gamma gamma is with with

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02:33:48.799 --> 02:33:54.680
<v Speaker 2>the residents half within that's gamma gamma. It turns out

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02:33:54.959 --> 02:34:04.159
<v Speaker 2>is one over tow roughly uh h square root uh

2273
02:34:05.159 --> 02:34:14.159
<v Speaker 2>uh and yeah, squiritive that's caama. Now this comes from

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<v Speaker 2>this is derived from Heisenberg's Heisenberg Isenberg's certainty principle principle.

2275
02:34:37.639 --> 02:34:42.680
<v Speaker 2>But for what's called number of number and delta data.

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02:34:46.680 --> 02:34:52.159
<v Speaker 2>This phase, this is the phase of the coherent way.

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02:34:52.399 --> 02:34:57.399
<v Speaker 2>Now where where we're side is the squirtiven into the

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02:34:57.440 --> 02:35:04.280
<v Speaker 2>eye data. That's his status. Quinn got a piece of

2279
02:35:04.440 --> 02:35:11.200
<v Speaker 2>apple stuck in my thumb. Newton's revenge. I started eating

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02:35:11.280 --> 02:35:20.360
<v Speaker 2>Newton's apple. Okay, now let's go. So now we are

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02:35:20.639 --> 02:35:26.319
<v Speaker 2>at residence. See if the one plus i or megapiece

2282
02:35:26.360 --> 02:35:32.159
<v Speaker 2>squared the resident frequency times now, but that gamma, that

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02:35:32.319 --> 02:35:41.399
<v Speaker 2>gamma turns out to be cow squirreed event. See that

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02:35:41.600 --> 02:35:43.719
<v Speaker 2>squared event because it was in the denominator. This is

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02:35:43.760 --> 02:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>algebra now squared event. So so we are it's proportional

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02:35:50.479 --> 02:35:53.799
<v Speaker 2>to the squairre it event. But the square event is

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02:35:53.799 --> 02:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna get very big and in the condest it could

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02:35:58.200 --> 02:35:59.719
<v Speaker 2>be it could be you know, like ten to the

2289
02:35:59.799 --> 02:36:03.479
<v Speaker 2>third something, It could be very big. So so basically,

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02:36:03.520 --> 02:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>so what is he are e r so the the

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02:36:08.040 --> 02:36:13.040
<v Speaker 2>the the with gamma it's like one over the squirre man,

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02:36:13.600 --> 02:36:19.959
<v Speaker 2>but the height is scaling as in that's the trick M.

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<v Speaker 2>That is, let us all fati as this comment. Boys,

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02:36:27.079 --> 02:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>the Russians noticed the Russians, you know, Poot sent his

2295
02:36:30.159 --> 02:36:33.920
<v Speaker 2>guys over the interview me when Obama was present. They

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02:36:34.000 --> 02:36:36.680
<v Speaker 2>came over twice, so the Russians know all the ship.

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02:36:37.280 --> 02:36:40.559
<v Speaker 2>In fact, after they invited me to Moscow, asked you

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02:36:40.639 --> 02:36:44.319
<v Speaker 2>why I didn't go. So you your earlier question of

2299
02:36:44.360 --> 02:36:49.159
<v Speaker 2>the Russians ahead, They probably are because they have smarter

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02:36:49.280 --> 02:36:51.959
<v Speaker 2>people than we do. All right, so let's go on.

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<v Speaker 1>So is the trick here that the super conductivity due

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02:36:57.440 --> 02:37:00.639
<v Speaker 1>to the ample of this nature of the raider and

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02:37:00.920 --> 02:37:04.680
<v Speaker 1>increasing here is that this is the secret sauce, especially essentially.

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02:37:04.520 --> 02:37:08.319
<v Speaker 2>For this is it. This is it, This is it.

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02:37:09.079 --> 02:37:12.239
<v Speaker 2>But most people be too stupid to even understand anything

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02:37:12.280 --> 02:37:15.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. So that's why I'm talking to a bunch

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02:37:15.040 --> 02:37:19.559
<v Speaker 2>of apes at the monolith. All right, this is the

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02:37:19.600 --> 02:37:25.520
<v Speaker 2>way it works, understood, all right, So now Einstein's field

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02:37:25.600 --> 02:37:29.600
<v Speaker 2>equation in a simple time, I'm over simplifying Einstein's field

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02:37:29.680 --> 02:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>equation nineteen fifteen. There's a pie g of a seat

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<v Speaker 2>of the poor team. You knew, But that's the vacuum.

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02:37:44.559 --> 02:37:47.399
<v Speaker 2>They made a mistake. But all the all the kings

2313
02:37:47.479 --> 02:37:49.879
<v Speaker 2>men in the sand. It shouldn't be the vacuum should

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02:37:49.920 --> 02:37:55.479
<v Speaker 2>be what's inside the material there? Why should this is?

2315
02:37:55.600 --> 02:37:58.280
<v Speaker 2>This is inside the material? So why you use the

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02:37:58.360 --> 02:38:01.280
<v Speaker 2>speed of light and vacuum wh there's no material? You see,

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02:38:01.280 --> 02:38:02.239
<v Speaker 2>The whole thing is stupid.

2318
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the speed of light's not constant, as I were saying,

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02:38:05.399 --> 02:38:09.120
<v Speaker 1>due to the pervctivity of the element the element itself.

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02:38:10.360 --> 02:38:12.879
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, so, and you know it's it's a little

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02:38:12.920 --> 02:38:15.200
<v Speaker 2>more complicated. I'm over simplifying a lot.

2322
02:38:15.479 --> 02:38:15.959
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate.

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02:38:16.079 --> 02:38:17.639
<v Speaker 2>There are all kinds of there are all kinds of

2324
02:38:17.719 --> 02:38:22.799
<v Speaker 2>problems about what's covariance and variance and ten get you know.

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<v Speaker 1>We can yeah, yeah, just you know, simplified.

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02:38:28.680 --> 02:38:32.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Now look this number eight pi g a receipt

2327
02:38:32.879 --> 02:38:38.799
<v Speaker 2>of the four This vacuum that's equal to two times

2328
02:38:38.879 --> 02:38:47.239
<v Speaker 2>ten to the minus forty three Newton's Newton's to the

2329
02:38:47.319 --> 02:38:50.479
<v Speaker 2>minus one reciprocal Newtons new there's a unit of force

2330
02:38:50.879 --> 02:38:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in ks where this is the gravity. This is gravity,

2331
02:38:56.040 --> 02:38:59.600
<v Speaker 2>and that's measured in one over meters square. Mm hmm,

2332
02:39:00.440 --> 02:39:04.719
<v Speaker 2>that's curvature. Meet a square one over areas. Okay, but

2333
02:39:05.200 --> 02:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>now we stick in now but the s but okay,

2334
02:39:11.040 --> 02:39:16.799
<v Speaker 2>let's go here. One oversea to the fourth goes as

2335
02:39:17.120 --> 02:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>epsilon are me are square goes to the square. I've forgotten.

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02:39:24.399 --> 02:39:27.159
<v Speaker 2>I'm forgetting about the v R because that's yeah, I'm

2337
02:39:27.200 --> 02:39:29.000
<v Speaker 2>trying to make it as simple as possible. The vu

2338
02:39:29.120 --> 02:39:32.000
<v Speaker 2>R is the magnetic that said, with the magnetic permeability,

2339
02:39:32.239 --> 02:39:35.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm only talking about that the electric dielectrical part. You know,

2340
02:39:35.479 --> 02:39:38.120
<v Speaker 2>just keep it as you know, just as simple as

2341
02:39:38.200 --> 02:39:42.079
<v Speaker 2>possible without it being simpler than is possible. So now,

2342
02:39:43.000 --> 02:39:48.559
<v Speaker 2>so what we have is that GMI you knew is

2343
02:39:48.719 --> 02:39:56.000
<v Speaker 2>two times ten to the minus forty three times. This

2344
02:39:56.239 --> 02:40:00.200
<v Speaker 2>thing is uh is n and then what I have, Uh,

2345
02:40:00.760 --> 02:40:04.959
<v Speaker 2>let's say I had an omega. Uh, I'll make it

2346
02:40:05.040 --> 02:40:10.440
<v Speaker 2>to the fourth omega zero squared, and then I have

2347
02:40:10.680 --> 02:40:16.879
<v Speaker 2>a towel a town squared times team you knew, team

2348
02:40:16.959 --> 02:40:21.520
<v Speaker 2>you knew. Okay, this is what's called. This is a

2349
02:40:21.639 --> 02:40:28.639
<v Speaker 2>stress energy tense. This is like from the pump, the

2350
02:40:28.719 --> 02:40:33.959
<v Speaker 2>electromagnetic pump. HM. You could say, okay, this is the

2351
02:40:34.040 --> 02:40:41.200
<v Speaker 2>residence now and uh, this end and could be like

2352
02:40:42.120 --> 02:40:44.879
<v Speaker 2>and could be like saying what tends to the what

2353
02:40:44.920 --> 02:40:47.719
<v Speaker 2>do we want? Let's let's say that and says like

2354
02:40:47.840 --> 02:40:52.680
<v Speaker 2>tens of the something number anything ten to the forty

2355
02:40:53.319 --> 02:40:56.319
<v Speaker 2>why can't be? Why not? Why not? And then yeah,

2356
02:40:56.399 --> 02:41:00.280
<v Speaker 2>this could be big too. Now normally w p of

2357
02:41:00.360 --> 02:41:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a w normally this is uh less than one what's

2358
02:41:07.159 --> 02:41:12.879
<v Speaker 2>called fifield. But what's called the near field, which is

2359
02:41:12.959 --> 02:41:16.639
<v Speaker 2>all we're interesting in the near field, this could be

2360
02:41:16.840 --> 02:41:20.559
<v Speaker 2>pretty big also, but we you know, so, so the

2361
02:41:20.600 --> 02:41:23.239
<v Speaker 2>point is this, this is this so this this strength

2362
02:41:23.280 --> 02:41:25.319
<v Speaker 2>and so this is this is the this is the secret.

2363
02:41:26.120 --> 02:41:30.200
<v Speaker 2>So we're able So what this means is we can

2364
02:41:30.280 --> 02:41:39.079
<v Speaker 2>make a desire. We we've desired gmu new Field, you know,

2365
02:41:39.319 --> 02:41:41.760
<v Speaker 2>in order to say we want to cancel the irth's gravity.

2366
02:41:42.239 --> 02:41:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So both have a UFO. It's hovering. It's hovering right.

2367
02:41:50.920 --> 02:41:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Here's he's standing under it. This is Travis Taylor Tailor,

2368
02:41:59.600 --> 02:42:05.520
<v Speaker 2>this is skin Walker Ranch and I forgot to show

2369
02:42:05.559 --> 02:42:07.440
<v Speaker 2>that you could also make You can make it anti

2370
02:42:07.520 --> 02:42:13.200
<v Speaker 2>gravity because it's a fad that I in there because

2371
02:42:13.239 --> 02:42:17.280
<v Speaker 2>of the eye that's in there, Because because because because

2372
02:42:17.399 --> 02:42:20.719
<v Speaker 2>SI goes as the square of them and each of

2373
02:42:20.799 --> 02:42:24.760
<v Speaker 2>the eye theata. By playing with this parameter, I can

2374
02:42:24.920 --> 02:42:32.799
<v Speaker 2>change the effective sign of the gravity from attractive to repulsive. Okay,

2375
02:42:33.479 --> 02:42:36.399
<v Speaker 2>it's it's like getting negative mass without negative mass. See,

2376
02:42:36.399 --> 02:42:39.000
<v Speaker 2>there's all kinds of stuff. This thing is so beautiful.

2377
02:42:40.280 --> 02:42:42.760
<v Speaker 2>These everybody that does so why do I get pissed up?

2378
02:42:42.799 --> 02:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear about idiots, Paiez. You know,

2379
02:42:47.239 --> 02:42:52.040
<v Speaker 2>thousand they're monkeys. You understand they're monkeys playing a typewriter. Then,

2380
02:42:52.079 --> 02:42:55.680
<v Speaker 2>but they're the ape set the monolith in space Odyssey.

2381
02:42:56.040 --> 02:42:58.079
<v Speaker 2>You know, can I think around? They don't know, they

2382
02:42:58.520 --> 02:43:00.959
<v Speaker 2>don't know what to look for. This is the real

2383
02:43:01.079 --> 02:43:05.120
<v Speaker 2>theoretical physics of Albert Einstein has taught to me by

2384
02:43:05.360 --> 02:43:09.319
<v Speaker 2>people like Hans Beta, Richard Bindman. You're the top guys,

2385
02:43:09.760 --> 02:43:13.280
<v Speaker 2>not the mechanical engineers, you know, fixing the toilets at

2386
02:43:13.319 --> 02:43:16.479
<v Speaker 2>Case Western Reserve University. Youn say what I'm saying here?

2387
02:43:17.040 --> 02:43:20.559
<v Speaker 2>This a simple Now it turns out, it turns out

2388
02:43:21.440 --> 02:43:26.120
<v Speaker 2>that any top theoretical physicists students at cal Tech at

2389
02:43:26.239 --> 02:43:28.120
<v Speaker 2>MIT at least about years ago, I know how it

2390
02:43:28.239 --> 02:43:31.000
<v Speaker 2>is now at Harvard, you know, before they before the

2391
02:43:31.120 --> 02:43:35.760
<v Speaker 2>woken assholes took everything over, they could have been you know,

2392
02:43:35.840 --> 02:43:38.440
<v Speaker 2>if I they could be having a PhD oral exam

2393
02:43:38.840 --> 02:43:41.360
<v Speaker 2>and I could be the examining professor, and I tell

2394
02:43:41.399 --> 02:43:43.799
<v Speaker 2>them give certain hints, and I say, telling me how

2395
02:43:43.840 --> 02:43:45.760
<v Speaker 2>to solve the problem, and they should be able to

2396
02:43:45.840 --> 02:43:49.040
<v Speaker 2>solve this problem because it's very elementary. It's not hard.

2397
02:43:49.360 --> 02:43:52.520
<v Speaker 2>It's easy. It's an easy problem, not a hard problem.

2398
02:43:52.680 --> 02:43:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Is that because people are so stupid and don't know

2399
02:43:55.399 --> 02:43:58.600
<v Speaker 2>basic physics that they think it's a hard problem. So

2400
02:43:58.719 --> 02:44:01.799
<v Speaker 2>anybody tells you that they don't, that we don't understand

2401
02:44:01.840 --> 02:44:04.559
<v Speaker 2>the technology, it's a million thousands in the future. That

2402
02:44:04.760 --> 02:44:08.440
<v Speaker 2>guy is an idiot. Or he's lying deliberately lying. Okay,

2403
02:44:08.799 --> 02:44:12.000
<v Speaker 2>so that guy, Okay, so that's it. They are faked.

2404
02:44:12.040 --> 02:44:14.360
<v Speaker 2>They are false prophets. They don't know what the fuck

2405
02:44:14.360 --> 02:44:17.559
<v Speaker 2>they're talking about, what they do. They're misleading you deliberately,

2406
02:44:17.600 --> 02:44:21.079
<v Speaker 2>but generally they're just stupid smucks. They don't know, you know,

2407
02:44:21.200 --> 02:44:23.040
<v Speaker 2>they don't know their ship from Shain all about this.

2408
02:44:23.200 --> 02:44:28.920
<v Speaker 2>See so there it is, so now yeah, so there, okay, okay,

2409
02:44:29.000 --> 02:44:31.959
<v Speaker 2>so that's let's just say so the idea is you

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02:44:32.120 --> 02:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>have a desired gem you knew, and it's equal to

2411
02:44:36.479 --> 02:44:40.280
<v Speaker 2>two times ten to the minus forty three times this,

2412
02:44:41.440 --> 02:44:44.879
<v Speaker 2>this end times this other ship and team you knew,

2413
02:44:45.600 --> 02:44:50.319
<v Speaker 2>so you keep this fixed. This is something you desire

2414
02:44:50.440 --> 02:44:52.559
<v Speaker 2>to cancel your its gravity. I can I can show

2415
02:44:52.559 --> 02:44:54.719
<v Speaker 2>you how to calculate it, but that's already doing too much.

2416
02:44:54.959 --> 02:45:02.639
<v Speaker 2>We use what's called the divergence there divergence theorem. In

2417
02:45:02.719 --> 02:45:05.520
<v Speaker 2>a special case, use the Burgess theorem, and you can

2418
02:45:05.600 --> 02:45:09.319
<v Speaker 2>calculate the G field the G field, and you make

2419
02:45:09.360 --> 02:45:12.040
<v Speaker 2>it anti gravity. You can cancel out the Earth's field.

2420
02:45:12.239 --> 02:45:15.360
<v Speaker 2>You cancel out the Earth's field by by choosing and

2421
02:45:16.120 --> 02:45:19.120
<v Speaker 2>and FDA. There's there's actually a fada you know hidden

2422
02:45:19.200 --> 02:45:21.920
<v Speaker 2>in there you could by by making end big enough

2423
02:45:22.200 --> 02:45:25.639
<v Speaker 2>and choosing theta just right, you can reverse the sign

2424
02:45:25.719 --> 02:45:30.239
<v Speaker 2>so it becomes anti gravity. Okay, for small this is

2425
02:45:30.280 --> 02:45:34.159
<v Speaker 2>the energy input for small as this as this coefficient

2426
02:45:34.280 --> 02:45:39.719
<v Speaker 2>gets big, this is fixed. This gets small. Understand that's

2427
02:45:39.799 --> 02:45:42.200
<v Speaker 2>what the idea is. You want to make this coupling

2428
02:45:42.920 --> 02:45:45.440
<v Speaker 2>big enough and this small enough so you could do

2429
02:45:45.520 --> 02:45:49.280
<v Speaker 2>it simply. And the point is, we know we see

2430
02:45:49.360 --> 02:45:52.399
<v Speaker 2>these things flying around. They have this technology to do it.

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02:45:52.520 --> 02:45:52.879
<v Speaker 1>It done.

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02:45:53.159 --> 02:45:57.120
<v Speaker 2>This exists. This is operation Okay, this is but this

2433
02:45:57.280 --> 02:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>is how it works. This is how it works. Now.

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02:46:00.079 --> 02:46:04.319
<v Speaker 2>The problem is back to Travis Taylor and the guys

2435
02:46:04.399 --> 02:46:07.600
<v Speaker 2>at skin Walk. They got sick because when it's anti gravity,

2436
02:46:09.479 --> 02:46:13.520
<v Speaker 2>when it's hommering in other words, when there's the okay,

2437
02:46:13.799 --> 02:46:19.239
<v Speaker 2>so there is the Earth's gravity. This is the earth gravity, right,

2438
02:46:19.879 --> 02:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>and then there's the ship makes anti gravity. There's the

2439
02:46:29.799 --> 02:46:33.760
<v Speaker 2>UFO and the anti gravity minus G. To cancel it.

2440
02:46:33.840 --> 02:46:36.239
<v Speaker 2>We want to cancel it. Right, So now you're with me.

2441
02:46:37.440 --> 02:46:39.719
<v Speaker 2>Do you see what I just did, ranking the G

2442
02:46:40.280 --> 02:46:43.319
<v Speaker 2>and ranking the G to cancel the blue G cancels

2443
02:46:43.360 --> 02:46:46.159
<v Speaker 2>the red G. But this makes this makes a blue

2444
02:46:46.200 --> 02:46:53.399
<v Speaker 2>shift that's a blue shift. Ye, a blue shift. What's

2445
02:46:53.440 --> 02:47:06.200
<v Speaker 2>sudden noise? That's ionizing radiation? Ionizing radiation. You got radiation sickness.

2446
02:47:07.920 --> 02:47:10.959
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's like being in a nuclear explosion underneath

2447
02:47:10.959 --> 02:47:11.360
<v Speaker 2>these things.

2448
02:47:11.520 --> 02:47:13.440
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna make is that? Is that yours?

2449
02:47:15.159 --> 02:47:15.600
<v Speaker 2>It's not me?

2450
02:47:17.479 --> 02:47:18.639
<v Speaker 1>So we only have a few more minutes, so I

2451
02:47:18.680 --> 02:47:20.479
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you going through this. Do you want to take

2452
02:47:20.479 --> 02:47:22.239
<v Speaker 1>a quick look at some videos that I've got that

2453
02:47:22.319 --> 02:47:24.000
<v Speaker 1>may show this effect. I want to get your opinion

2454
02:47:24.120 --> 02:47:24.760
<v Speaker 1>if that's okay?

2455
02:47:24.920 --> 02:47:26.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, okay, okay, And then.

2456
02:47:26.319 --> 02:47:28.280
<v Speaker 1>I got to drop because I do have another engagement.

2457
02:47:28.319 --> 02:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>But I've appreciated this time. This has been awesome. I'm

2458
02:47:31.040 --> 02:47:33.799
<v Speaker 1>gonna ahead and share my my screen here real quick,

2459
02:47:34.799 --> 02:47:37.879
<v Speaker 1>and let's take a look at these videos here.

2460
02:47:38.159 --> 02:47:40.479
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait a minute, dude, let me see what?

2461
02:47:40.680 --> 02:47:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Can you see it?

2462
02:47:42.200 --> 02:47:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute? Let me go down my other laptop.

2463
02:47:44.280 --> 02:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Heng on, Well go ahead, I'm well make it bigger.

2464
02:47:48.040 --> 02:47:48.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't make it bigger?

2465
02:47:49.280 --> 02:47:55.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, you can see it? Can you make it bigger?

2466
02:47:56.079 --> 02:47:56.559
<v Speaker 2>Let me see?

2467
02:47:57.639 --> 02:47:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh I just crash it.

2468
02:47:58.600 --> 02:47:59.159
<v Speaker 2>Okay, there we go.

2469
02:47:59.440 --> 02:48:02.520
<v Speaker 1>How's that? Can you see it? I lost you? Now

2470
02:48:02.600 --> 02:48:09.479
<v Speaker 1>you're muted. I can't hear you. So now you muted yourself,

2471
02:48:09.520 --> 02:48:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I think we can't hear Jack. It's like the chat

2472
02:48:15.600 --> 02:48:20.680
<v Speaker 1>says as well says your timer is bleeping. I can't

2473
02:48:20.719 --> 02:48:22.879
<v Speaker 1>hear you. I'm gonna play the video even though I

2474
02:48:22.920 --> 02:48:26.159
<v Speaker 1>can't hear you though. Yeah, I'm just gonna play it, okay.

2475
02:48:26.200 --> 02:48:28.159
<v Speaker 1>So I just wanted to show you this. Even if

2476
02:48:28.200 --> 02:48:29.680
<v Speaker 1>you can't hear me, or you can probably hear me,

2477
02:48:29.760 --> 02:48:31.639
<v Speaker 1>I just can't hear you. So the reason why I

2478
02:48:31.639 --> 02:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>will show you this is the videos that I've been

2479
02:48:34.040 --> 02:48:35.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about. I'm not gonna go into all of them,

2480
02:48:35.719 --> 02:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>but to what you just said with the anti gravitational aspects,

2481
02:48:39.319 --> 02:48:40.600
<v Speaker 1>this is why I want to talk to you because

2482
02:48:40.600 --> 02:48:42.680
<v Speaker 1>when we're looking at these orbs come in, I think

2483
02:48:42.760 --> 02:48:45.760
<v Speaker 1>that we're looking at that type of anti gravitational effect.

2484
02:48:45.799 --> 02:48:48.159
<v Speaker 1>I actually think there's two anti gravitational effects happening here.

2485
02:48:48.239 --> 02:48:52.600
<v Speaker 1>The one is that they're displaced from space time and

2486
02:48:52.680 --> 02:48:54.719
<v Speaker 1>then you see them do this pattern where it seems

2487
02:48:54.760 --> 02:48:57.280
<v Speaker 1>like this pattern has some purpose, which I would wonder

2488
02:48:57.319 --> 02:49:01.959
<v Speaker 1>if this is ER equals EPR at maybe at Einstein Rosenbridge.

2489
02:49:02.399 --> 02:49:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you at all. By the way, Jack, doctor,

2490
02:49:05.280 --> 02:49:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Sir Friday, I can't hear you, but no I didn't.

2491
02:49:07.319 --> 02:49:12.159
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mute him. And and then what we see

2492
02:49:12.200 --> 02:49:15.319
<v Speaker 1>here in an essence here in a second is potential

2493
02:49:15.360 --> 02:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>amplification of the energy here, which makes me wonder about

2494
02:49:18.200 --> 02:49:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the equations that you just posted where the plane disappears. Yeah,

2495
02:49:22.079 --> 02:49:23.879
<v Speaker 1>I see if you can fix the sound on your side.

2496
02:49:24.840 --> 02:49:26.680
<v Speaker 1>While you're doing that, I'm gonna play the other video

2497
02:49:26.680 --> 02:49:37.920
<v Speaker 1>as well. Yeah, Chat says, we can't hear you. I

2498
02:49:38.000 --> 02:49:42.840
<v Speaker 1>can't hear you either. Unfortunately, don't have you muted. You're

2499
02:49:42.840 --> 02:49:56.360
<v Speaker 1>definitely not muted. I'll just commentate while you are figuring

2500
02:49:56.399 --> 02:49:59.319
<v Speaker 1>that out. On this one, we can see the heat

2501
02:49:59.399 --> 02:50:02.200
<v Speaker 1>signature of the orbs, and you can tell that there

2502
02:50:02.520 --> 02:50:07.920
<v Speaker 1>are displacing gravity themselves, but they're also pulling themselves forward

2503
02:50:08.000 --> 02:50:13.440
<v Speaker 1>here at the same time. Still can't hear you. No,

2504
02:50:14.520 --> 02:50:17.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, there you go say something again, Jack, say something.

2505
02:50:20.399 --> 02:50:22.360
<v Speaker 1>I heard some feedback there, so it sounded like you

2506
02:50:22.399 --> 02:50:26.639
<v Speaker 1>were you're getting sound through one of your devices. I

2507
02:50:26.680 --> 02:50:30.559
<v Speaker 1>don't know which one it is. Can you say something?

2508
02:50:31.280 --> 02:50:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Still can't hear you, No, microphone's still dead. No, I

2509
02:50:35.479 --> 02:50:38.440
<v Speaker 1>can't hear you. I can see her lips moving, but

2510
02:50:38.479 --> 02:50:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't hear you. Still can't hear you.

2511
02:50:47.000 --> 02:50:48.000
<v Speaker 2>You can't you can't hear me.

2512
02:50:48.399 --> 02:50:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I can hear you now, Yeah, you're you're in. I

2513
02:50:50.159 --> 02:50:50.719
<v Speaker 1>can hear you now.

2514
02:50:50.799 --> 02:50:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, I think what happened. I don't know what

2515
02:50:52.319 --> 02:50:53.360
<v Speaker 2>happens with the earputs.

2516
02:50:53.479 --> 02:50:55.120
<v Speaker 1>You can hear me now, yea, yeah, yeah, you're good,

2517
02:50:55.159 --> 02:50:55.520
<v Speaker 1>You're good?

2518
02:50:55.799 --> 02:50:56.079
<v Speaker 2>All right?

2519
02:50:56.200 --> 02:50:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So what do you think? Are we looking at video

2520
02:50:57.559 --> 02:50:58.639
<v Speaker 1>games effects here? What do you think?

2521
02:51:00.719 --> 02:51:03.520
<v Speaker 2>You know? Why? Because anything could be c G. I

2522
02:51:04.079 --> 02:51:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not an expert and evalue. I'm not a c

2523
02:51:08.440 --> 02:51:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I a analyst and and evaluating. There are people who

2524
02:51:13.479 --> 02:51:14.479
<v Speaker 2>can evaluate that.

2525
02:51:14.799 --> 02:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>That's not me.

2526
02:51:15.760 --> 02:51:18.079
<v Speaker 2>It's not my job. It's a waste of my time.

2527
02:51:18.280 --> 02:51:20.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't give a ship because I don't know. I

2528
02:51:20.559 --> 02:51:22.360
<v Speaker 2>can be fooled as easy as the next to me,

2529
02:51:22.879 --> 02:51:25.559
<v Speaker 2>and I know the limits of my expertise. So this

2530
02:51:26.200 --> 02:51:29.120
<v Speaker 2>looks like bad CGI to me. Anything be fake, you

2531
02:51:29.200 --> 02:51:31.920
<v Speaker 2>know the deep fakes that you can't believe anything you see.

2532
02:51:34.399 --> 02:51:37.639
<v Speaker 2>This has to be done by you know, by uh uh.

2533
02:51:37.760 --> 02:51:40.559
<v Speaker 2>There's a forensic This guy one three, I know he

2534
02:51:40.680 --> 02:51:44.360
<v Speaker 2>has a guy in Israel. If they're still alive, they

2535
02:51:44.440 --> 02:51:47.479
<v Speaker 2>can do it. You know, they do a computer analysis

2536
02:51:47.559 --> 02:51:51.200
<v Speaker 2>and and check to make sure it's not artificial. So

2537
02:51:51.520 --> 02:51:55.360
<v Speaker 2>so this is worthless. There's no evidence, nothing. It's worthless

2538
02:51:55.360 --> 02:51:57.760
<v Speaker 2>because we don't know. We don't know, we don't know

2539
02:51:58.440 --> 02:51:59.879
<v Speaker 2>how this was done, who made.

2540
02:51:59.719 --> 02:52:01.680
<v Speaker 1>This, So there's no way to tell, just from a

2541
02:52:01.719 --> 02:52:03.479
<v Speaker 1>physics standpoint, if this is what it would look like,

2542
02:52:04.840 --> 02:52:05.479
<v Speaker 1>there's nothing here.

2543
02:52:05.479 --> 02:52:09.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't understand. It's nothing. It has no value whatsoever

2544
02:52:09.799 --> 02:52:13.719
<v Speaker 2>unless it's analyzed by the proper people with the proper

2545
02:52:14.280 --> 02:52:18.440
<v Speaker 2>equipment to check pixel by pixel whether it's fake or

2546
02:52:18.520 --> 02:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>not fake. They can tell. I can't tell. That's not

2547
02:52:21.559 --> 02:52:24.600
<v Speaker 2>my field of expertise. And you should be intelligent enough

2548
02:52:24.879 --> 02:52:27.159
<v Speaker 2>to know the difference. What I'm able to talk about.

2549
02:52:27.360 --> 02:52:29.079
<v Speaker 2>I can't talk about that one way or the other.

2550
02:52:29.239 --> 02:52:30.639
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to see what your opinion was.

2551
02:52:30.719 --> 02:52:33.440
<v Speaker 2>That's want anybody else. The deep fakes are very good,

2552
02:52:33.879 --> 02:52:36.440
<v Speaker 2>that's true to be artificial intelligence. We don't know if

2553
02:52:36.440 --> 02:52:38.479
<v Speaker 2>it's real. Where'd you get it from? Who gave it

2554
02:52:38.559 --> 02:52:38.680
<v Speaker 2>to you?

2555
02:52:38.840 --> 02:52:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I found it on the internet from twenty fourteen.

2556
02:52:40.959 --> 02:52:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, then that's bullshit. You can't believe any anyone who

2557
02:52:44.319 --> 02:52:46.280
<v Speaker 2>believes what they're seeing on the Internet without checking it.

2558
02:52:46.319 --> 02:52:47.840
<v Speaker 2>As an idiot, I.

2559
02:52:48.360 --> 02:52:49.879
<v Speaker 1>Checked into it. I think I found the guy who

2560
02:52:49.920 --> 02:52:50.600
<v Speaker 1>make those videos.

2561
02:52:50.760 --> 02:52:53.799
<v Speaker 2>Why, that's why we have a war in Ukraine, because

2562
02:52:53.840 --> 02:52:58.120
<v Speaker 2>people are stupid like you and everybody in most Americans idiots, naive,

2563
02:52:58.239 --> 02:52:59.200
<v Speaker 2>gullable schmucks.

2564
02:52:59.680 --> 02:53:01.639
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm pretty sure the videos are real. But you're

2565
02:53:01.760 --> 02:53:02.959
<v Speaker 1>entitled to your opinion for sure.

2566
02:53:03.360 --> 02:53:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no my opinion is worth us. Your opinion

2567
02:53:06.680 --> 02:53:09.159
<v Speaker 2>is worthless because you don't know what the fuck you're saying.

2568
02:53:09.159 --> 02:53:10.280
<v Speaker 2>You don't know if it's real or not.

2569
02:53:10.760 --> 02:53:11.559
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure it's real.

2570
02:53:11.639 --> 02:53:13.479
<v Speaker 2>There's a way of finding out if it is reel.

2571
02:53:13.719 --> 02:53:15.959
<v Speaker 2>But you haven't done your job. You haven't done any

2572
02:53:16.079 --> 02:53:16.799
<v Speaker 2>due diligence.

2573
02:53:18.360 --> 02:53:20.280
<v Speaker 1>Leaker, I found the leaker of the videos, so you

2574
02:53:20.360 --> 02:53:20.799
<v Speaker 1>can give it.

2575
02:53:21.040 --> 02:53:23.879
<v Speaker 2>I can put you in touch. Oh wait a minute,

2576
02:53:23.920 --> 02:53:24.879
<v Speaker 2>you know one for real?

2577
02:53:25.200 --> 02:53:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll in touch with him.

2578
02:53:26.719 --> 02:53:29.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So you tell you get you give the file

2579
02:53:29.479 --> 02:53:32.680
<v Speaker 2>to one. He gives it to his friends in Israel

2580
02:53:32.920 --> 02:53:34.840
<v Speaker 2>and they'll tell you if it's real or not. Yeah,

2581
02:53:35.600 --> 02:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>he has guys who can do that. That's expertise. But

2582
02:53:39.319 --> 02:53:42.319
<v Speaker 2>you know that's like the highest like the National Reconnaissance Office,

2583
02:53:42.840 --> 02:53:44.120
<v Speaker 2>National Security agency.

2584
02:53:44.200 --> 02:53:46.440
<v Speaker 1>They do that. N r O, they do that. Oh,

2585
02:53:47.079 --> 02:53:48.639
<v Speaker 1>n r O. I sent them to the ar O

2586
02:53:48.799 --> 02:53:50.559
<v Speaker 1>as well, so I hope they come back to me. No,

2587
02:53:50.920 --> 02:53:56.360
<v Speaker 1>that r O the National Rester National Concerts Office, not

2588
02:53:56.479 --> 02:53:57.239
<v Speaker 1>the ar There are a.

2589
02:53:57.200 --> 02:54:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Bunch of idiots. Yeah, it's just more than you are.

2590
02:54:02.079 --> 02:54:04.120
<v Speaker 1>That's very point.

2591
02:54:04.239 --> 02:54:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Is this. All the stuff you see on the internet

2592
02:54:08.239 --> 02:54:14.760
<v Speaker 2>is worthless. It's worthless. There's no scientific value whatsoever, no evidentry.

2593
02:54:14.920 --> 02:54:16.799
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, that's probably why a lot of

2594
02:54:16.959 --> 02:54:19.719
<v Speaker 2>at the Pentagon they said, you know, there's no evidence.

2595
02:54:21.200 --> 02:54:26.920
<v Speaker 2>That's the kind of evidence let's take. Well, let's put it.

2596
02:54:27.079 --> 02:54:31.200
<v Speaker 2>If it's real, they'll classify it. I have seen, Oh

2597
02:54:32.280 --> 02:54:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I have seen the real thing. You haven't seen it.

2598
02:54:36.319 --> 02:54:40.239
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it. Okay, I've seen it. So that's why

2599
02:54:40.639 --> 02:54:42.559
<v Speaker 2>i'm because I know this stuff is real, but not

2600
02:54:42.680 --> 02:54:45.840
<v Speaker 2>the ship you're showing me. I saw, you know, stuff

2601
02:54:45.879 --> 02:54:48.879
<v Speaker 2>that's vetted by the military. You know that's there's just

2602
02:54:48.959 --> 02:54:50.040
<v Speaker 2>from the horse's mouth.

2603
02:54:50.799 --> 02:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>And you know, did it look like tak or did

2604
02:54:52.680 --> 02:54:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it look like an orbit?

2605
02:54:54.319 --> 02:54:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

2606
02:54:55.040 --> 02:55:00.600
<v Speaker 1>I can't say that. I'm curious.

2607
02:55:00.719 --> 02:55:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't want to get my source in trouble.

2608
02:55:03.959 --> 02:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Ah, ok gotcha. Okay, I thought you heard it first.

2609
02:55:07.239 --> 02:55:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I thought you've seen it firsthand though what I thought

2610
02:55:09.840 --> 02:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>you've seen it firsthand though you just said you've seen it.

2611
02:55:12.360 --> 02:55:16.200
<v Speaker 2>I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen firsthand evidence

2612
02:55:16.600 --> 02:55:22.079
<v Speaker 2>from my active military source who's in charge of the project. Yeah, okay, okay,

2613
02:55:23.079 --> 02:55:25.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing but I know I know what I'm seeing

2614
02:55:25.479 --> 02:55:27.600
<v Speaker 2>is not fake because I know who this guy is.

2615
02:55:27.719 --> 02:55:29.879
<v Speaker 2>I work with. I know who the guy is. He's

2616
02:55:29.920 --> 02:55:32.879
<v Speaker 2>the real McCoy. And the reason they're showing it to

2617
02:55:32.959 --> 02:55:35.440
<v Speaker 2>me is because they know I can under like they

2618
02:55:35.520 --> 02:55:38.639
<v Speaker 2>were not able to explain it. That's why they came

2619
02:55:38.680 --> 02:55:44.680
<v Speaker 2>to me. They're not stupid, makes sense, okay. And also

2620
02:55:44.760 --> 02:55:46.639
<v Speaker 2>they're not American. Huh.

2621
02:55:49.280 --> 02:55:50.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't want you to get your source in trouble here,

2622
02:55:50.879 --> 02:55:52.120
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, I appreciate it, sir.

2623
02:55:53.159 --> 02:56:00.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's why. That's why, that's why President and Biden

2624
02:56:01.319 --> 02:56:05.440
<v Speaker 2>listening to and Blincoln and Stinking and Newland and all that,

2625
02:56:05.799 --> 02:56:09.680
<v Speaker 2>that's why they lost they You know, I was at

2626
02:56:09.719 --> 02:56:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Bohemian Grove, this place called Bohemian Grove a couple of

2627
02:56:12.479 --> 02:56:16.399
<v Speaker 2>years ago, and I heard Robert Gates was talking. Somebody

2628
02:56:16.440 --> 02:56:18.319
<v Speaker 2>asked him. He was giving a talk up at the

2629
02:56:18.440 --> 02:56:20.719
<v Speaker 2>lake there, you know where they have the ceremony, you know,

2630
02:56:21.399 --> 02:56:25.040
<v Speaker 2>with the owl, and and somebody asked him, this is

2631
02:56:25.120 --> 02:56:27.959
<v Speaker 2>back pre COVID, you know, this is when Biden was

2632
02:56:28.600 --> 02:56:32.600
<v Speaker 2>when Trump. Trump was the president then and and Biden

2633
02:56:32.680 --> 02:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>there was no longer vice president. And somebody asked Gates.

2634
02:56:36.159 --> 02:56:39.079
<v Speaker 2>Somebody from the audience asked Gates what they thought of

2635
02:56:39.200 --> 02:56:44.360
<v Speaker 2>Joe Biden. And Gates just looked and said, every foreign

2636
02:56:44.440 --> 02:56:50.639
<v Speaker 2>policy decision that Joe Biden was involved with ended in disaster.

2637
02:56:51.840 --> 02:56:54.280
<v Speaker 2>This is a bat By twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, right

2638
02:56:54.520 --> 02:56:57.319
<v Speaker 2>at the Bohemian Grove. And so now we see it.

2639
02:56:58.719 --> 02:57:01.120
<v Speaker 2>I've got it. The pull out funk Bull was totally

2640
02:57:01.239 --> 02:57:05.680
<v Speaker 2>botched by the idiots, the incompetence. And now Kiev what

2641
02:57:06.239 --> 02:57:08.360
<v Speaker 2>let me just say, if you look at and do

2642
02:57:08.479 --> 02:57:16.600
<v Speaker 2>your research, Putin is now preparing an offensive. That's why

2643
02:57:16.639 --> 02:57:19.920
<v Speaker 2>they're bombing, pulling out the power stations with the missiles.

2644
02:57:20.479 --> 02:57:25.200
<v Speaker 2>Putin is going to destroy to make an unconditional surrender

2645
02:57:26.639 --> 02:57:31.200
<v Speaker 2>of Zelensky in Kiev before the election, probably before by

2646
02:57:31.319 --> 02:57:34.120
<v Speaker 2>the only reason that which we're still trying to support

2647
02:57:35.479 --> 02:57:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Ukraine is so Biden is affair. He's going to lose

2648
02:57:37.840 --> 02:57:40.200
<v Speaker 2>the election with In other words, there's going to be

2649
02:57:40.280 --> 02:57:45.360
<v Speaker 2>a humiliating defeat before November twenty twenty four in Ukraine.

2650
02:57:45.440 --> 02:57:48.120
<v Speaker 2>So they've already lost, but it's going to be obviously

2651
02:57:48.120 --> 02:57:54.680
<v Speaker 2>everyone lost, and and that way Putin is interfering the election,

2652
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<v Speaker 2>but we interfered in his stuff too, So tit for tat, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Real quick, thank you. I appreciate your time. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to drop as I have a space I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>join here, but I want to give you a moment

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02:58:03.799 --> 02:58:05.959
<v Speaker 1>to plug anything you want to plug. But before that,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go ahead and just make you an

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<v Speaker 1>honorary member of m H three seventy X. We advance,

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02:58:09.520 --> 02:58:13.799
<v Speaker 1>we look into advanced science. No no, I made you.

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<v Speaker 2>No. Let me just say, don't don't check, just listen.

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<v Speaker 2>My final words may have happened. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it happened or not. Okay, it may have happened, but

2663
02:58:25.920 --> 02:58:29.520
<v Speaker 2>you don't know. You have no information because that evidence

2664
02:58:29.559 --> 02:58:34.280
<v Speaker 2>you presented is worthless until you get it. Okay, you

2665
02:58:34.520 --> 02:58:37.520
<v Speaker 2>send the files to one and if one is able

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02:58:37.559 --> 02:58:39.360
<v Speaker 2>to get his friends to work on it, and if

2667
02:58:39.399 --> 02:58:42.040
<v Speaker 2>they say it's legitimate, then you have something right now,

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02:58:42.079 --> 02:58:42.680
<v Speaker 2>you got to nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, but my the organization that makes three seventy

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<v Speaker 1>X isn't necessarily just based on the videos. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>about advanced science, which I appreciate you showed us here today,

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<v Speaker 1>which was amazing. So thank you for going through those

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02:58:51.719 --> 02:58:54.120
<v Speaker 1>equations and everything with me today. I thought it was awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciated the political commentary as well. I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was very interesting.

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<v Speaker 5>I think we don't get a lot of that, okay,

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02:58:59.040 --> 02:59:02.319
<v Speaker 5>but understand that, understand that that in order to be uh,

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<v Speaker 5>in order not to be just a propaganda this just

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02:59:05.200 --> 02:59:07.799
<v Speaker 5>would be some flight that's pushing all kinds of bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't know this, you know, like all the other flakes

2681
02:59:10.680 --> 02:59:15.000
<v Speaker 2>like Jeremy Corble, George Knapp, all these assholes, all these idiots,

2682
02:59:15.360 --> 02:59:17.079
<v Speaker 2>is just spreading some of the stuff. You know, some

2683
02:59:17.239 --> 02:59:18.559
<v Speaker 2>of it is true, some of it isn't true, but

2684
02:59:18.600 --> 02:59:20.799
<v Speaker 2>they're too stupid to know what's true or not. What

2685
02:59:21.479 --> 02:59:24.600
<v Speaker 2>methods are that if you want to present evidence, make

2686
02:59:24.680 --> 02:59:26.840
<v Speaker 2>sure you got real evidence and not bullshit that you

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02:59:26.879 --> 02:59:27.719
<v Speaker 2>got off the internet.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, So that's it, thank you, sir. Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to plug anything real quick as well?

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<v Speaker 2>I know you've plugged.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to plug any you know, anything you're

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<v Speaker 1>working with.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll plug you know. Get The Great Race by David

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02:59:41.639 --> 02:59:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Gladstone on Amazon. Five bucks in you get some some

2695
02:59:45.600 --> 02:59:46.520
<v Speaker 2>decent information.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Thank you very much, Jack, have a great day, sir.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you, doctor, Sir Fiddy, and everybody else has

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<v Speaker 1>been following. Awesome. Thank you guys very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so, how many so? How many people
