Speaker 1: Okay, and we are live here today with Jack Sarfai.
Speaker 1: This is the Hard Trews Podcast with Ashon Forbes. Today
Speaker 1: my guest is doctor Jack Sarfai, legendary physicist who's an
Speaker 1: author and author of multiple scientific papers advancing the concepts
Speaker 1: of quantum mechanics and discovering the secrets of consciousness. Doctor
Speaker 1: Jack Sarfadi, thank you very much for being here today.
Speaker 2: Nice to be here with you. So I did, David,
Speaker 2: I didn't agree about your what does that think it?
Speaker 2: I think that disappeared. Maybe it disappeared. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That makes three seven zero videos. Yeah, we can talk
Speaker 1: about these later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that later.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's jump in though, let's get right into the politics.
Speaker 1: I know everybody wants to hear about the politics here today,
Speaker 1: So what are your political thoughts?
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Jack, Okay, I just uh, I want I
Speaker 2: want everybody to know about this important new book by
Speaker 2: my friend. My friend and we're almost brothers. We know
Speaker 2: each other. Half is fifteen years Oh my god, how
Speaker 2: long is it? Almost fifty years? Probably fifty years? Yeah,
Speaker 2: Michael Savage and I mean basically we're in great danger,
Speaker 2: you know, the America. I believe is now a communist country.
Speaker 2: We are under communist domination. The Democrat Party is not
Speaker 2: the Democrat Party of Harry Truman. I remember World War Two.
Speaker 2: You know, I was born in nineteen thirty nine, so
Speaker 2: I remember I remember Harry Truman very well. You know,
Speaker 2: it's like five six seven years old. I remember Harry.
Speaker 2: I remember them playing the piano. I remember getting pissed off.
Speaker 2: Remember Harry getting pissed off or somebody and somebody from
Speaker 2: the New York Times, some ship had from the New
Speaker 2: York Times that looked with a piece of crap propaganda thing.
Speaker 2: Well it was better back then, yeh and some and
Speaker 2: this this guy, this guy, a columnist is something from
Speaker 2: New York Times, forget his name. He criticized his daughter's
Speaker 2: piano playing, and true and just wanted a punch him
Speaker 2: in the nose. Is the president of United States. He's
Speaker 2: a character. So everybody like, I mean, I like Harry Truman.
Speaker 2: I remember Franklin Delano Roosevelt, and everybody loved f the
Speaker 2: r though found the sucking battle that wasn't so good
Speaker 2: later on, but uh, yeah, we're all very patriotic and
Speaker 2: uh and the uh and and I remember of course
Speaker 2: jfk Yeah, when he was killed. Uh, but the Democrat
Speaker 2: Party today is not the Democrat Party uh before. In fact,
Speaker 2: uh John F. Kennedy would be considered, uh, you know,
Speaker 2: a right wing terrorist by the communists in the White House.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's getting bad. I mean that we
Speaker 2: had the fbibi is knocking on people's doors for what
Speaker 2: they're posting on social networks. It's the saucing.
Speaker 1: What would you say to the people, Let's say that
Speaker 1: Trump is a fascist. How would you respond to those
Speaker 1: kinds of claims?
Speaker 2: Okay, now you have to understand something. Everybody who says
Speaker 2: Trump is a fascist, they're the fascist. And this is
Speaker 2: this is the playbook. I forget the guy's name, Olinsky, Salolensky,
Speaker 2: who Hillary Clinton was like a protege, you know, a
Speaker 2: deputy of Salinsky and in sala Olinsky in his rules
Speaker 2: for radicals on the sixties. And I was part of
Speaker 2: that whole thing, and I was brought up, you know,
Speaker 2: I was with all the lefties. All my friend's parents
Speaker 2: were communists, were in the thirties. They were you know,
Speaker 2: card carrying communists literally, you know, like the Rosenbergs, you know,
Speaker 2: things like that. So uh, Liskey says, accuse your opponent
Speaker 2: of what you were guilty of projection. The fascist's a
Speaker 2: fascist they're putting they're putting was it John Eastman? They're
Speaker 2: putting him in jail for what? And Hunter Biden walks like,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's the son of the mafioso, Hunter,
Speaker 2: the crack addict, the piece of shit pedophile.
Speaker 1: What would you say the people that they're saying that
Speaker 1: they're protecting democracy by you know, arresting people, they're threatening it.
Speaker 2: They're doing just the opposite, just what I said, just
Speaker 2: the opposite. You read George Orwell nineteen eighty four. That's
Speaker 2: where we're in. We're in Oceania right now. They're the
Speaker 2: Ministry of Truth, Okay. And if people want to ask me,
Speaker 2: I mean, I can provide all kinds of details. I
Speaker 2: was part of it. I grew up in this thing,
Speaker 2: you know. I might you know, with like Bernie Sands,
Speaker 2: those people New York City. Yeah, I was part of
Speaker 2: the I mean I was the New York Times. They
Speaker 2: called me the counter cultural physicists the New York Times
Speaker 2: back in the sixties, you know, and they look at
Speaker 2: how the hippie saved physics. I was you know, I
Speaker 2: went to an IVY eating school, was in the Some
Speaker 2: Freedom Party, helped create the Peace and Freedom Party. Uh
Speaker 2: call in San Diego. Uh who's the guy? Yeah? It
Speaker 2: was well getting my Biden maybe four years old? Right, so,
Speaker 2: uh who's the who's that black woman with? It'll be
Speaker 2: all right? I don't want to freeze McDonald.
Speaker 1: Are you saying that there's kind of a propaganda or
Speaker 1: information war going on right now? When you say that
Speaker 1: we're in World War three right now? A?
Speaker 2: Right? What you're kidding me? Right? I mean you're being
Speaker 2: You're not saying it's strong enough that there isn't. I
Speaker 2: mean it's obvious that there is. Right, you're being sarcastic,
Speaker 2: I think, right.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to try to press you a little
Speaker 1: bit on your convictions.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what would you say though, the people that say
Speaker 1: like that, you know, we need to censor misinformation and
Speaker 1: disinformation because that's harmful to people. What would you say
Speaker 1: about that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, you know that's first on that they are
Speaker 2: the enemies, they are the real enemies, and that they're
Speaker 2: they're they're trying to destroy the Constitution in the United States.
Speaker 2: That's youah, that destroying the first Amendment amendment. They want
Speaker 2: to of course destroy the second Amendment, but that's the
Speaker 2: first amendment. But let me just uh quote a little
Speaker 2: bit from Michaels Michael's book. Uh just read the let
Speaker 2: me just read this some of the chapter headings. Get
Speaker 2: an idea. He says, the Civil war is here, the
Speaker 2: Biden Baton switched, the leftist insurgency, Stalinists Biden, the new Kulux,
Speaker 2: the real armed insurrection of post constitutional society. In any case, uh,
Speaker 2: if you go on my x dot com twitter feed,
Speaker 2: I put in some important excerpts from this book, and
Speaker 2: actually people people in live stream in the chat, they
Speaker 2: could look on my twitters team and ask questions based
Speaker 2: on what I you know, posted here. So, okay, let's
Speaker 2: let's continue.
Speaker 1: So what do you think Do you think that there's
Speaker 1: a foreign influence in our government? Would you say? Or
Speaker 1: do you think it's mostly just from our own our
Speaker 1: own officials.
Speaker 2: It's the enemy within. It's it's not glad of me
Speaker 2: at Putin. That's bullshit. That next question, Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 2: not glad to be people. First of all, let me
Speaker 2: explain something. Gladimir Putin is not the enemy of the
Speaker 2: United States. The enemy of the United States are the
Speaker 2: people sitting in the White House right now and people
Speaker 2: are you know, they're the real the enemy within.
Speaker 1: Do you think they're the enemies themselves from their own
Speaker 1: mindset or do you.
Speaker 2: Think, of course that's not of course, of course that
Speaker 2: they're all brainwashed. They're mostly brainwa if you want to
Speaker 2: what may be? Okay, listen, half the country, half of
Speaker 2: the United States, are so crazy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: the people in the world, I mean all that. I
Speaker 2: mean mainly the Democrats, not all Democrats. I mean, I'd
Speaker 2: be very happy with RFK. I'd be happy with RFK. You.
Speaker 2: I may not agree with everything RFK Junior says, but
Speaker 2: he's an intelligent man. He's an honest man. He says
Speaker 2: what he thinks, and he's risking his life, you know,
Speaker 2: for the country. He's a real patriot. Yeah. I may
Speaker 2: not agree with everything he says about COVID. I'm not sure, Glad.
Speaker 2: I'm not a doctor. I don't involve myself in the
Speaker 2: COVID controversy because I know the limits of my own expertise,
Speaker 2: and that's not one of them. Yeah, I talked about
Speaker 2: the physics. Okay, uh So Okay, so I asked me
Speaker 2: a question, Oh, who's the enemy? So, okay, Russia, Okay, Russia,
Speaker 2: Modern Russia is not the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union
Speaker 2: was a legitimate enemy. Okay, they were gentlemen. But Vladimir
Speaker 2: Putin is that Stalin. He's not Hitler. Anybody says Putin
Speaker 2: is Hitler is either very stupid and very ignorant. It
Speaker 2: doesn't know what the fuck they're talking about, has no
Speaker 2: idea of the history of anything, or is does know
Speaker 2: and is a liar as an evil liar, lying bastard.
Speaker 1: Okay, did you see the interview between Putin and Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 2: Of course I saw it. Thoughts on that it was
Speaker 2: it was great. I mean, okay, I agree on that interview.
Speaker 2: I agree with Scott Ritter's analysis of the interview that
Speaker 2: Tucker did not really do his homework. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know the time that he says, look, who's a schmuck?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, you've got to understand something. The
Speaker 2: Russians in general, the people in charge in Russia, very
Speaker 2: smart people. They know their history, they have a long view. Okay,
Speaker 2: he's a sit well on the old KGB, serious persons,
Speaker 2: our people are idiots in comparison. It's like they're paying
Speaker 2: you know that they're playing what four dimensional chess and
Speaker 2: uh Biden can't even figure out tic tac toe, you know,
Speaker 2: well what I mean, Biden, I feel sordo. But it's
Speaker 2: a crime. By the reason, Biden is staying in power
Speaker 2: because Biden knows that if Trump gets back in, Trump
Speaker 2: will do to Biden what Biden's doing to Trump. Lawfare, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: You know, pendulum as other way, right, Yeah, it'll.
Speaker 2: Go the other way. And the point is Biden really
Speaker 2: has has committed crimes. Ye Trump. Trump hasn't done anything really,
Speaker 2: I mean all the same with the fraud, with the
Speaker 2: with inflating the uh the value of Mara Lago and Trump,
Speaker 2: whatever the hell that is. First of they all do
Speaker 2: it now and and nobody was hurt by it. Nobody
Speaker 2: was defrauded. Everybody made money, The bank's made money. Plus
Speaker 2: there's a disclaim. There's a disclaimer in the contract that
Speaker 2: you know, when Trump or any other real estate person,
Speaker 2: uh you know, does try to get alone, there's always
Speaker 2: a caveat, and the bank does their own evaluation. They
Speaker 2: don't depend on that. So this is all bullshit. It's
Speaker 2: all like it's a Stolidus. It's right out of Stalin
Speaker 2: that a republic. Yeah, oh yeah, John Stewart see that,
Speaker 2: that asshole from the CNN. He's a he's a piece
Speaker 2: of ship man. They're all piece of ship. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: well listen, keep going, Yeah what is that? What the
Speaker 2: actor DeNiro? Well, I like, you know, you know, I
Speaker 2: come from the same good as DeNiro. We're about the
Speaker 2: same age actually, and actually I used to hang out
Speaker 2: with Francis sport Copo, you know, when he's doing The
Speaker 2: Godfather all that stuff. So yeah, yeah, how de Niro
Speaker 2: comes on about Donald Trump, you know, being an evil bastard? Okay,
Speaker 2: de Niro, you and I we should you know, we
Speaker 2: being den You want you want to you want to talk.
Speaker 2: You want to talk good fellas. You want to talk
Speaker 2: good fellas. I grew up in Flatbush the fifties. My grandfather,
Speaker 2: my grandfather was a friend of Sam Cohen. Right, okay,
Speaker 2: you want to talk good fellas. I'll talk good fellas.
Speaker 2: It's okay, right, let's go.
Speaker 1: Now, you're doing great. I like it. So, you know,
Speaker 1: going back to the Vladimir Putin interview, there's a couple
Speaker 1: of aspects of that want to discussed with you, and
Speaker 1: one will segue into our next conversation. The first is
Speaker 1: what do you think about the whole question about the
Speaker 1: nord Stream pipeline and how Putin responded saying that it
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily cost beneficial to get into a propaganda war
Speaker 1: with the United States. You know, you say that the
Speaker 1: Russian people are you know, their government officials are a
Speaker 1: lot smarter than ours. How you reconcile that with the
Speaker 1: idea that United States potentially has a better propaganda apparatus
Speaker 1: or more control over the media than Russia does. And
Speaker 1: do you agree with that assessment?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know what the question is a little
Speaker 2: ruin here. Just let me try to understand the question. Sure,
Speaker 2: when you're saying, uh, does if does America control its
Speaker 2: own propaganda? Sure, it doesn't control the Russian, doesn't control
Speaker 2: the Russian. Okay, does Russia control us?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I wish they did. Okay, stream, let's spurs up north
Speaker 2: stream by norder to NOI? That was about what's his name? Uh?
Speaker 2: The uh you know, the guy Hirschfeld, the guy who
Speaker 2: wrote the article bien weeks before I said he was
Speaker 2: He said he was gonna blow it up, and he did.
Speaker 2: He blew it up. I mean, Putin's not gonna blow
Speaker 2: up his own pipeline switchers. If he doesn't want the
Speaker 2: gas to go to Germany, he just switches it all.
Speaker 1: Everybody thinks that, oh, well, we we might have or
Speaker 1: you know, they might have done it to themselves, which
Speaker 1: seems kind of nonsense.
Speaker 2: So fucking anybody who believes that is that I saw
Speaker 2: the Book of Bridge. I mean, that's so fucking stupid.
Speaker 2: How could you be so stupid to think that, Well,
Speaker 2: you know, that's idiously.
Speaker 1: What about he's keep going, sir, Sorry, what do you
Speaker 1: think about Put's claims about super soldiers and hypersonic weapons?
Speaker 1: Why do you think he's talking about that so openly?
Speaker 2: That's all true? Oh well, that's all true. Yeah, In fact,
Speaker 2: we have a super soldier program here. I fact, I
Speaker 2: I this this guy, this, this guy who I know
Speaker 2: who is one of those super soldiers. He's genetically modified. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we've had that that sawt in the age. Yeah. In fact,
Speaker 2: in fact, when I was in the nineteen eighties, I
Speaker 2: was being paid by a chief of station of the
Speaker 2: Central Intelligence Agency, Harold Shipman and ship Chip wanted to be.
Speaker 2: He introduced me to this guy Joe people. These were
Speaker 2: people involved in Iran contract. Uh, you know with the
Speaker 2: you know what's the colonel you know what that the
Speaker 2: guy the the marine, the marine guy. Thinking that any case,
Speaker 2: they wanted me to go to this facility in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: I think it was in New Mexico and some mountain
Speaker 2: where they were doing among other things, they were doing
Speaker 2: the genetic experiments for the super soldiers. Okay, and recently
Speaker 2: I met one of these kids. He is a military Actually,
Speaker 2: his father worked with General Millie Mark Sture.
Speaker 1: I don't remember his name, but yeah, I saw when
Speaker 1: you were.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, Mike Michael. And he's clearly and I
Speaker 2: know he knows he is. His mother was his mother
Speaker 2: was his mother was you know, his mother was part
Speaker 2: of that program. She worked at Los Alamos and stuff
Speaker 2: like that. But and he was he's done tours in
Speaker 2: Iraq Afghanistani as a soldier and he uh, he got
Speaker 2: seriously injured. Yeah war. I don't know if it's a
Speaker 2: warrant drink. But he healed very quickly.
Speaker 1: Really they like that.
Speaker 2: Okay, he's here, you know, he's healed. So he's genetically modified.
Speaker 1: Mental, physical enhancements or both or what.
Speaker 2: Well, definitely he looks a little bit like the bulk,
Speaker 2: like the home both huge. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and uh. But the point is we know he's ly
Speaker 2: enhanced because of his his healing. You know, they have
Speaker 2: in fact, what am I talking about? What am I
Speaker 2: talking about because my sister in law, I'm not of
Speaker 2: the neighbor. My assister in law works in that area
Speaker 2: they're doing. They have all this new way of quick
Speaker 2: wounding the wounded soldiers that you're thinking, you know, to
Speaker 2: re reconstruct them. So all that's true, and of course
Speaker 2: the Russians, the Russians are you know, I'm sure they're
Speaker 2: working on it. So roughly speaking, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: So that kind of I think goes to our next point,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, I want to talk to you
Speaker 1: a little bit about UFO phenomenon in general.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, okay, I want to spend I want to
Speaker 2: spend most of the time on that, of course, but
Speaker 2: there's a few about about Russia. Let's just say about Russia. Okay,
Speaker 2: Russia is the natural ally of the United States and Europe,
Speaker 2: their natural ally. There are critanis now are it's not
Speaker 2: the Soviet Union. They're an Orthodox Christian country, but they
Speaker 2: also have a lot of Muslim population. But like the Czech,
Speaker 2: the Czechs, uh Chechia, you know, they're they're now that
Speaker 2: the Chechen soldiers in the Ukrainian Front are very loyal
Speaker 2: to put even though they had problems like twenty years
Speaker 2: ago and so. Uh when you know, when Pudin first
Speaker 2: took power from y Elson, like twenty three years ago
Speaker 2: or so, Pudin wanted to join NATO. Putin's main interest.
Speaker 2: But when I say, I mean Russia. You know the
Speaker 2: people the Russian government, right, their main interest is too economic,
Speaker 2: you know, economic development, everybody win. Okay, they have no interest.
Speaker 2: Russia has no interest in going beyond, you know, into
Speaker 2: taking over poland establishing the Soviet thing. That's all bullshit,
Speaker 2: that's all. But that's all a big lie that our
Speaker 2: military industrial complex is trying to sell us so they
Speaker 2: can rob over trillion dollars a year from the tax
Speaker 2: pace from your stupid tax payers. You don't understand what
Speaker 2: how you're being fucked over by these greedy vampire assholes.
Speaker 1: Okay, they're just trying to take back their you know,
Speaker 1: some of the old Soviet lands where the people are
Speaker 1: more ethnically Russian or no.
Speaker 2: I just said they're not trying to do that. They're
Speaker 2: not trying to do that. Who is it? You know?
Speaker 2: He Prutin thinks that the destructed of the Civil Union
Speaker 2: was there was a tragedies. Isn't but he accepts the reality. No,
Speaker 2: pruten will not does not want aggressive NATO. We look
Speaker 2: at crazy Macron, he's gonna send French troops. And you
Speaker 2: look at uh, you know all these people in NATO.
Speaker 2: What's a gens whatever, Stoltenberg whatever name is one of
Speaker 2: these guys. His father was the Nazi uh where the
Speaker 2: Nazi uh s s And yeah, I mean the EU
Speaker 2: today is basically the fourth Frank except now they fucked
Speaker 2: themselves because they there's Germany's going down because of the
Speaker 2: North Stream which buying which America did to them, and
Speaker 2: that the Germans are just their their economy is they're collapsing.
Speaker 2: The Russian economy is doing very well. The sanctions we
Speaker 2: didn't just back. Everything we've done is stupid since Biden
Speaker 2: got it. Okay, so why I didn't quite I didn't
Speaker 2: quite finish the thought on on on on Putin So
Speaker 2: the point is that, yeah, all Putin want yeah, I know,
Speaker 2: I want to say. Putin will not accept Ukraine in NATO.
Speaker 2: Putin would rather go to war with nuclear weapons and
Speaker 2: wipe out my beloved London. I love London, in London
Speaker 2: a lot of time, wipe out past, wipe up, destroyed
Speaker 2: the whole fucking thing, you know. Then then let then
Speaker 2: let Ukraine be part of you know, part of NATO
Speaker 2: for the same reason he will not. They and the
Speaker 2: Russians in general, they're all for you know, Russians now
Speaker 2: very unified. The United States has split the two Americans,
Speaker 2: you know, the crazy commis, you know, the Progressives and
Speaker 2: all that suff and the Maga, the Trumpies. Right, we're
Speaker 2: in a civil war, actually in an idea live where
Speaker 2: the Cyclogeyeah, we're in a cultural civil war. Very bad here.
Speaker 2: So America's for action. Americas is not united. There is
Speaker 2: no United States anymore. There's an ununited There're two Americans
Speaker 2: at more. When other Russia's were unified, we unified it.
Speaker 2: How did why did why did Putin go into Ukraine?
Speaker 2: Put went into Ukraine because when when the Soviet Union fell,
Speaker 2: the Bush, the first Bush guaranteed that NATO would not
Speaker 2: move east. Okay, and they both the promises. They brought
Speaker 2: the promises. So now allowing allowing Ukraine to have NATO
Speaker 2: weapons on Russia's borders right there, that's like, you know,
Speaker 2: we had the we have the Monroe doctrine here, we
Speaker 2: almost had a nuclear war over Cuban missiles. The Soviet
Speaker 2: missiles in Cuba were JFK so pultin today it's just
Speaker 2: doing what JFK did back in nineteen sixty three. Now
Speaker 2: must also say that the reason Kushtyev put the nuclear
Speaker 2: missiles into Cuba was because we had new nuclear missiles
Speaker 2: and Turkey. Seece there was that. You know, so already
Speaker 2: then we were assholes, you know, we were aggressive. So
Speaker 2: so the point, we're not the good guys, America not
Speaker 2: the good guy. I'm an American patriot, I'm not I'm
Speaker 2: not an agent of pood. Okay, I'm an American patriot.
Speaker 2: But I know some history I with these none of
Speaker 2: these assholes in power on our side. They're they're incompetent,
Speaker 2: they're stupid, they don't know history, and they're greedy and
Speaker 2: they're corrupt, every last one of those fuckers, even the
Speaker 2: Republican I'm talking about Republicans and Democrats. There are a
Speaker 2: few good goods on both sides, you know, but in general,
Speaker 2: and but and a lot of them are communists, are
Speaker 2: you know, the neo cons the Victorian Newland Kagan, uh
Speaker 2: Stinking Blincoln, our Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. These are
Speaker 2: all they're all. I mean, I grew up with them.
Speaker 2: I know what they are because I grew up with these.
Speaker 2: They're they're red diaper babies. They're Russian Jews, They're Russian Jews.
Speaker 2: I'm Jewish, so I can say the Russian Jews whose
Speaker 2: parents told on grandparents told the horror stories, had a
Speaker 2: Cossacks rape that went in and killed all the Jews
Speaker 2: and the shadows there. So they're all crazy. They all
Speaker 2: have a post traumatic stress syndrome. And they were and
Speaker 2: they were all brainwashed by the communist propaganda. In which
Speaker 2: by the way, there's a guy named Uri bezmon Of.
Speaker 2: He would have been my age.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Russians killed the old the Soviets killed him. It's
Speaker 2: because what he was is uh Ury Bezmonov's father I think,
Speaker 2: was a friend of Lenin. You know, he said the elite. Uh,
Speaker 2: he's part of the elite communist state. He was Moscow State.
Speaker 2: They put him in the KGB. He could have had
Speaker 2: a brilliant career. He could have been like Gladimir Pootney.
Speaker 2: But he went to India. They said the KGV is
Speaker 2: back like in the sixties, yeap, when we're all young.
Speaker 2: And they sent him to India and he got in
Speaker 2: love with the guse got you know, the new age.
Speaker 2: Maybe he took asset who house so he affected to
Speaker 2: the CIA. He defected to the CIA back in nineteen
Speaker 2: eighty something like that. In any case, your abeztment of
Speaker 2: you go on YouTube, you watch your abszment of in
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty four being interviewed, and he talks about the
Speaker 2: Soviet House Stalin. You know, they were very smart back
Speaker 2: in the nineteen thirties, how they started this psychological warfare
Speaker 2: operation in the United States, also of course in the UK.
Speaker 2: You know Kim Philbey, all those English guys who became
Speaker 2: Soviet spines, you know, doing the defected. You know, there's
Speaker 2: all those John la Corey's novels writes about them, and
Speaker 2: the same thing happened here because they took advantage of
Speaker 2: the depression and all the intellectuals they might you know,
Speaker 2: all is yeah, well, all the thinking people in America,
Speaker 2: most of the minute they went to Lincoln Brigade, they
Speaker 2: all became communists. Plus the free sex, all the new
Speaker 2: age stuff in the sixties, the free sex. That's all
Speaker 2: part of communists, the communist part in the Soviet thing.
Speaker 2: Besmonov explains it back in nineteen eighty four, and he
Speaker 2: describes after four generations, what it's going to be like.
Speaker 2: He describes America today. He describes cancel culture, the whole
Speaker 2: phony with the Black Lives matter, phoning, racist stuff. Everything
Speaker 2: was seeing here, everything that's happening here, Bestoff says, And
Speaker 2: see the problem. The thing is, even though the Soviet
Speaker 2: Union fell, this whole inductor psychological warfare operation, brainwashing operation,
Speaker 2: which was very effective and used these Pavolovian like Manchurian
Speaker 2: candidate stuff. Most of our guys in the White House
Speaker 2: they have been Turnian candidates say certain words and then
Speaker 2: you know, but so it's like the Frankenstein monster, the
Speaker 2: sein monthsters been let loose, and that's all we have
Speaker 2: in this country now. So half it's like a mind virus.
Speaker 2: So half the country and half the country is infected
Speaker 2: with the walking dead. They're like zombies. And I include
Speaker 2: the President of the United States. It's not even you know,
Speaker 2: you look at him three he walks, you know, he
Speaker 2: has he has he has dementia. He has you know,
Speaker 2: he's pokingsoning in dementia. Michael Savage, Michael Savage this book.
Speaker 2: Michael has a PhD from Berkeley in biological science, a
Speaker 2: biological science, and he has some medical training. And Michael
Speaker 2: has said, and I've spoken to other medical you look
Speaker 2: just the way find you know, loses his Well sometimes
Speaker 2: I do it too, but that's probably normal for eighty
Speaker 2: year olds. But the way he walks his game and
Speaker 2: the way he falls the man, I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: it's actually senior abuse, senior abuse. So he's a corpse,
Speaker 2: I mean right now. And he's likely to be reelected
Speaker 2: because they're rigging the election. The twenty twenty that was
Speaker 2: an all rigged So.
Speaker 1: Do you think that do you think that we're this
Speaker 1: is weakened America? Where would you say the power balances
Speaker 1: we can image?
Speaker 2: First of all, Russia, okay, Ukraine, Okay, let's talk about
Speaker 2: your email.
Speaker 1: Let to clarify real quick. That's what I want to
Speaker 1: say is you've made statements say that you think that
Speaker 1: Russia is like more powerful than NATO, and I wonder yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, right now we're a paper tang and
Speaker 2: we're like the Wizard of Oz behind our curtain. Let
Speaker 2: me explain why, you know what what our weapons are
Speaker 2: ship that the Abrams tank is crap. The F thirty
Speaker 2: five is crap compared to what the Russians had, and
Speaker 2: they've proved it on the battlefield. They're knocking at the
Speaker 2: Abrams tanks. You know why. One of the reasons why
Speaker 2: assholes and it's a death trap. Why what you know
Speaker 2: they put in an aircraft jet engine in that in
Speaker 2: that tank, It runs out a thousand degrees, runs very hot.
Speaker 2: So of course you know the infrared signature gives off
Speaker 2: to the Russians. They see it right away. You can't hut,
Speaker 2: you know, it's stupid. Of course, it breaks down. You
Speaker 2: can't run for more than eight hours without having to
Speaker 2: be refueled. And it's been breaking down. It's not it's
Speaker 2: not reliable. It's too it's too high tech. And that's
Speaker 2: true of the thirty five, it's true of most of
Speaker 2: you know, it's true of a lot of our aircraft.
Speaker 2: It's true of our guns, artillery, that stuff with. So
Speaker 2: the point is what Russia has, their equipment is more
Speaker 2: suited for the actual battle conditions with the mud and stuff.
Speaker 2: In Ukraine. Okay, they're better equipment and they're more of it.
Speaker 2: Now we've given all our stuff, a lot of our stuff,
Speaker 2: you know, to the Ukrainians. Uh, and of course the
Speaker 2: Ukraine you know, all right, there's all kinds of suffer.
Speaker 2: But the first why did Peoton even go into what?
Speaker 2: Why did February twenty twenty two happen? The reason that
Speaker 2: happened was because Victoria knew of it was one of
Speaker 2: those Russian Jewish people grew up with, you know, a
Speaker 2: neo Khan and uh, and they're really trotsky Ies. They
Speaker 2: grew up in the Communists, but they're more like trotsky
Speaker 2: Ice and they became like conservatives, joined the Reagan thing.
Speaker 2: I knew, I knew, I knew a lot of each
Speaker 2: guy actually worked them. Yeah, and so she went over
Speaker 2: to in twenty fourteen, uh and arranged the baby, you know,
Speaker 2: the revolution to get because the president who was who
Speaker 2: was who was elected, who was you know, honestly elected
Speaker 2: president of Russian there was was friendly with Putin. Now,
Speaker 2: they're corrupt Ukraine. We all had look at the history.
Speaker 2: Everybody said, you knew that Ukraine was corrupt. And in fact,
Speaker 2: Joe Biden, our President of United States, he ye, he
Speaker 2: got money to hunt to Biden as the bagman. Right,
Speaker 2: They're all being bribed by the oligarchs. Okay, So in
Speaker 2: any case, Victoria Newland goes in there, helps arrange the
Speaker 2: coup desta against the pro Putin guy. They get this
Speaker 2: new guy in and you have these stepping bandera Neo
Speaker 2: Nazis who involved the World War Two. You know, they
Speaker 2: hit the supporters, they killed a lot of Poles actually,
Speaker 2: and they so they so what they got enough influence
Speaker 2: in the new government. So he had this jew, this
Speaker 2: Russian Jewish woman who hates Russia, you know, aiding in
Speaker 2: a betting the Bandaran Nazis to take over the military
Speaker 2: of Ukraine in twenty fourteen. And what did they do.
Speaker 2: They started artillery attacks on the Russian speakers in eastern Ukraine.
Speaker 2: They killed fourteen thousand Russian civilians over the ten years.
Speaker 2: And that's one of the reasons why Putin, because okay,
Speaker 2: Putin is a nationalist, you know Putin, and you know
Speaker 2: you have to understand Russia and your mother Russia. He
Speaker 2: explained that the soul of Russia. These are you know,
Speaker 2: these the Putin and these guys, they really believe it.
Speaker 2: You know, they paid, they're Russian paid, they're nationalists, Russian patriots.
Speaker 2: You know they're going there. He goes to the Russian
Speaker 2: Orthodox Church. Now you know he's not a communist. That's
Speaker 2: why the communists here hated him. Not a communist. I
Speaker 2: would go, o, our people wear the communists. But Putin
Speaker 2: this up. So the point one reason Putin went in
Speaker 2: was because to because they were attacking the native Russian
Speaker 2: speakers who want to be part of Russia. And now
Speaker 2: of course they are part of us. And then and
Speaker 2: then you know, to have dukes coming in, you know, unacceptable.
Speaker 2: And then so what happened when Zalinsky got in. Zalinski
Speaker 2: got in on a pro peace platform. So what did
Speaker 2: Putin do? Putin sends you know, that column down forty
Speaker 2: miles to care and the Ukrainians they sell me. We
Speaker 2: were training, we had ten years training the Ukrainian army,
Speaker 2: elite army from twenty fourteen, NATO training them. Okay, so
Speaker 2: the Plutin called it a special military operation. He said
Speaker 2: he didn't send in his best troops, said about ninety thousand,
Speaker 2: mainly you know, conscriptions with old equipment. He didn't send
Speaker 2: it his best tanks, for his best armor. It was
Speaker 2: he called special Military Upper and this was called to
Speaker 2: think you want to say that. Hey, listen, I'm serious.
Speaker 2: We got to talk. So Lensky said right away, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's talk. This is what happened back then. But the
Speaker 2: idiots today they don't know any any of this basic history.
Speaker 2: That's thumb schmucks.
Speaker 1: You know history. It feels like it. But I would
Speaker 1: ask they.
Speaker 2: Don't know anything. Oh no, let me finish. This is
Speaker 2: very important. I gotta find this is got to you
Speaker 2: make a coherent narrative. But yeah, thank you, Yeah, let
Speaker 2: me just take a.
Speaker 1: Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, so this is important. So Zelensky meets Putin
Speaker 2: in istanbul er God the president and even at that point,
Speaker 2: even that even though the primes in Israel was there,
Speaker 2: okay and Putt and they had and they they work
Speaker 2: out a deal, both accepted, both of them. There's gonna
Speaker 2: be a peace. Okay, what happens. Boris Johnson who I
Speaker 2: used to like, Boris john becomes Biden's lap dog. Jud Yeah,
Speaker 2: our guys buy. They they send Boris Johnson based on
Speaker 2: bull and Boris Johnson says, does a Linski. No, listen,
Speaker 2: don't sign this deal. He sabotaged the deal, said we're
Speaker 2: gonna help you. We're gonna because they want to weaken
Speaker 2: the Russians. They see at that point, they thought they
Speaker 2: could beat the Russians. They thought, you know, they thought
Speaker 2: like yeah, they thought they they win. They're a bunch
Speaker 2: of aggressive, arrogant, arrogant, stupid schmucks. Okay, they were wrong.
Speaker 2: They were wrong. So Boris Johnson, Boris Johnson has blood
Speaker 2: on his hands. I'm sorry, Boris. You know what I know.
Speaker 2: I have friends who are friends, you know, I when
Speaker 2: I'm in London, if the'll be back in there, then
Speaker 2: we loved. I belonged to the club, you know, the
Speaker 2: private clubs where they all go. Okay, I have friends
Speaker 2: who were you know, they played bridge together, that kind
Speaker 2: of thing. It's a small world. Yeah, I've did it
Speaker 2: with g hq Am, I six Am, I all these people,
Speaker 2: you know, the British, the London Met Commissions of London Met,
Speaker 2: the British Intelligence stuff like that and I worked, I
Speaker 2: worked in you know, there's a whole thing for that.
Speaker 2: But any case, so boris played the lackey and and
Speaker 2: has caused the war along with Victory Newton. So what
Speaker 2: do we have now? We have the flyer. Ukraine is destroyed,
Speaker 2: so that you know, the flower, the youth, at least
Speaker 2: a half a million youth millions have left. I mean,
Speaker 2: I think Ukraine had like forty million, forty two million
Speaker 2: people before this war started, and now they have like
Speaker 2: twenty million or eighteen million if they have that the
Speaker 2: war's loss. They never had a chance, and Russia's got
Speaker 2: We've made Russia stronger. The Russian economy is he's growing
Speaker 2: three and a half percent, and the German economy is
Speaker 2: zero point one percent because because they let our guys,
Speaker 2: I mean the United States, Joe Biden committed an act
Speaker 2: of war on Germany. He destroyed the German economy. They
Speaker 2: were Germany was getting cheap gas for their gas from Russia.
Speaker 2: The whole thing is stupid. And said, okay, that's segue
Speaker 2: into UF.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was gonna say to ask you, there is
Speaker 1: the idea of the site of the hypersonics and the
Speaker 1: super soldiers. If we're in the If Russia's in this war,
Speaker 1: why are they not deploying their advanced weapons? What what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that? And then that can move into well.
Speaker 2: That's obvious that okay, that's not even your suck. You
Speaker 2: don't know what's going on, although maybe it's just maybe
Speaker 2: you do. May just be okay, let me explain that
Speaker 2: because there's so many stupid people asking me stupid questions.
Speaker 2: The first of all, I mean, I gotta understand what
Speaker 2: It's a civil war in you credit a right. These
Speaker 2: these people they're fighting, they're like brothers, most of them.
Speaker 2: Put is being very restrained. He's doing the minimum. If
Speaker 2: Pot wanted to do he could have bombed. He could
Speaker 2: have he could he could have turned keV into rubble.
Speaker 2: He could have done that two years ago with his bombers. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: he doesn't want to do that. And by the way,
Speaker 2: by the way, the fact is, if you go online,
Speaker 2: there are people who There's this guy Alexander Mecurious. He's
Speaker 2: in London, very smart man. He goes to detail what's
Speaker 2: happening on the battle front. There's Douglas McGregor, there's a
Speaker 2: Hope on you know, there's a whole bun. There's Ray mcguffern,
Speaker 2: he's all x CIA guys, Larry Johnson, Colonel Daniel Davis,
Speaker 2: US Army. You go on YouTube and you'll see here.
Speaker 2: You'll get the details of what's really going on in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: Not everything you read in the newspapers. Everything in the
Speaker 2: New York Times about Ukraine, Washington Post, PBS, CNN, even
Speaker 2: Factor it's all bullshit. It's all ye, it's all like
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty for it's all propaganda. There's no truth to
Speaker 2: anything they're saying, okay, and the opposite is true. So
Speaker 2: so Putin has been very restrained and he's doing a
Speaker 2: policy what's called aggressive attrition, aggressive attriguy the whole thing.
Speaker 2: He doesn't want territory, Well, he'll keep the territory he
Speaker 2: has the Eastern Dombas because as the Russia that's now Russia,
Speaker 2: that's the buffer zone. Putin is gonna take karcuff and
Speaker 2: he's gonna take a Deessa. So Ukraine is now going
Speaker 2: to be a rump state without any direct outlet to
Speaker 2: the black scene. It's anything like that. Uh, the Polish
Speaker 2: farmers don't want you know, I mean, Ukraine is destroyed.
Speaker 2: What might happen, is that Poland and Lithuania and Hungary,
Speaker 2: and I think Slovenia to Romania, Romania, Hungary, Poland Lithuania. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they all want pieces of western Ukraine because they used
Speaker 2: to be it used to be part of those so
Speaker 2: they may, you know, they may work at the differ.
Speaker 2: There is no more. Ukraine is destroyed. Franis Johnson, Joe Biden,
Speaker 2: Victorian Newland, Anthony Blincoln, all these and these idiots, they
Speaker 2: have destroyed Ukraine. It's over. There's no there's no way
Speaker 2: Ukraine's ever gonna win this war. And if Macron, if
Speaker 2: he would, if native would send in troops, know what's
Speaker 2: gonna happen to those troops they gonna send in troops.
Speaker 2: Putin said, by the way, you get rid of Putin,
Speaker 2: and whoever comes to take replaces, food's gonna be much
Speaker 2: worse than boot Let me tell you they're gonna better.
Speaker 2: You know, Puts keeping everything kind of restrained, okay, compared
Speaker 2: to what they're they're ready to do, and they're pissed
Speaker 2: that they will do it. If Putin wants, Putin can
Speaker 2: take a hyposotic missile, and he could, he could pinpoint
Speaker 2: it now they're greater accuracy, like twenty meetings, the greater
Speaker 2: accuracy he could he can put a hyposotic so in
Speaker 2: the Elisia Palace. You know, we're not a dude just
Speaker 2: to He can do it to the Ministry of Defense
Speaker 2: in London, he could do it to Uh yeah, you
Speaker 2: can do ten Downing Street. He can do to Berlin.
Speaker 2: He can do it to He doesn't want to do that.
Speaker 2: He could do it and they can't stop him. We
Speaker 2: don't have anything anymore.
Speaker 1: So do you think not think that we have that
Speaker 1: type of technology or even more advanced, if that's what
Speaker 1: they're saying publicly. Do you think that there might be
Speaker 1: even more advanced that they have secret that they're not
Speaker 1: talking about.
Speaker 2: You think, no, they don't, because you know they don't
Speaker 2: because our organize are stupid. Look at their tanks, looking
Speaker 2: at their sending all equipment's no good. I mean we
Speaker 2: only have Okay, F thirty five was a piece of shit.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows it's a piece of shit for years. It's
Speaker 2: a total boomnoggle swindle. Only one third of the F
Speaker 2: thirty five are even operational, and maybe only about half
Speaker 2: an hour do These submarines are operational and look at
Speaker 2: the British Navy. The British kid they had the they
Speaker 2: had the defensive mini said get his name Sprague or
Speaker 2: whatever's got his name, mean something wrong and and they
Speaker 2: had they had him on on the on the nuclear
Speaker 2: sub the British Navy nuclear sub and they try to
Speaker 2: launch you know, the missile and the missile drop that
Speaker 2: almost hit the submarine that was hit the submarine. The
Speaker 2: aircraft carried none of the two aircraft carr that they're
Speaker 2: not working. And they had a the Royal Air Force
Speaker 2: they had a defammission like thirty five typhoon jets because
Speaker 2: they don't have the parts for it, they don't have
Speaker 2: the money for it. The British Army is a joke,
Speaker 2: British Armies. It's now seventy two thousand. The whole British
Speaker 2: Army would fit in a in a football match, you
Speaker 2: know of the soccer matches that they have, you know
Speaker 2: in London. There the entire British Army, you know, Putin
Speaker 2: has I think by the summer he's gonna have over
Speaker 2: two million, like over two million men under arms. Two million.
Speaker 2: They already have over a million. He has like seven
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand reserve force is ready to you know,
Speaker 2: move into uh into Ukraine if needed.
Speaker 1: Though, if you have capabilities use drones and drop missiles
Speaker 1: on people like we did in Iraq and Syria, it
Speaker 1: feels like you don't need.
Speaker 2: Now, you see. That's yeah, But you don't know ship,
Speaker 2: you don't know anything. Then you don't know nothing about it.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you them. When I went to Cornell.
Speaker 2: When I went to Cornell nineteen fifties, late nineteen fifties,
Speaker 2: we all had to take military. We had a reserve offices,
Speaker 2: training corps. We had to do that, okay, and I
Speaker 2: had courses in military, you know, I had some basic
Speaker 2: elementary things about it. To tell your bombing. We had
Speaker 2: to wipe out bombing that was in the Air Force,
Speaker 2: r at DC and civil apatrol before that. And and
Speaker 2: the answer is no. First of all, what's been proven
Speaker 2: by the the fact that the Russians, even when they
Speaker 2: were weak at the beginning the week, you know, first
Speaker 2: year the week, they were able to wipe out the
Speaker 2: Ukrainian the best forces that Ukraine had, who had trained
Speaker 2: for ten years by NATO. Our training is no good,
Speaker 2: you know why, because our army is no good anymore?
Speaker 2: Why is our army no good? And he one, I'll
Speaker 2: tell you exactly why, because we never Okay, who are we?
Speaker 2: Who have we been fighting since Vietnam? We're fighting poor
Speaker 2: people who do not have an air force. They don't
Speaker 2: have tanks, they're not a model, they don't have real artillery.
Speaker 2: What did Taliban have we who are fighting in Afghanistan? Iraq? Oh?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, what do you call it? Oh? Wait?
Speaker 2: Saddam in Iraq? He had some stuff. But we had
Speaker 2: a good army back then under Reagan and Bush, the
Speaker 2: first Bush. We had a powerful army then. And and
Speaker 2: in fact, Douglas McGregor who was in that campaign, and
Speaker 2: Colonel Davis they talk about, you know, we had a
Speaker 2: good army. But as soon as as soon as Clinton
Speaker 2: got in, Clinton destroyed the defense of the United States.
Speaker 2: Why to Clinton destroyed the defense? Because Hillary Clinton is white?
Speaker 2: Is a communist stage. It's like adventure, you know, she
Speaker 2: Saul Linsky see Victoria Noland. Okay, we destroyed. And also
Speaker 2: what's happened is that our four star generals, and like
Speaker 2: our current Secretary of Defense, they go as a revolving
Speaker 2: door between the defense contractors and the Pentagon. So what
Speaker 2: we've done, we've built these high tech weapons which are
Speaker 2: too advanced, that require too much Okay, do you don't
Speaker 2: cars it all? You wouldn't like to have a Ferrari
Speaker 2: or a McLaren for gotti a lot of maintenance, right,
Speaker 2: and we can't use them on the street. They're men
Speaker 2: for a special you know things. So that all our
Speaker 2: weapons we have Bagattis, we have Ferraris, McLaren's. We have
Speaker 2: the Russians where they have toyotas. I mean in terms
Speaker 2: of the you know, this stuff is not in your
Speaker 2: Their stuff is much suited. There's stuff works even and
Speaker 2: break staff like redundant. Have you seen the thing of
Speaker 2: like the Eighth Air Force in World War Two where
Speaker 2: they're bombing uh Nazi Germany and they hit you know
Speaker 2: that wings fall off, but the planes keep flying because
Speaker 2: they have enough redundancy. Okay, So the Russian the Russians
Speaker 2: have superior equipment for the actual battlefield conditions, plus the tactics,
Speaker 2: the tactics that NATO taught the Ukrainian Army, but tactics
Speaker 2: that were not suitable to fight the Russian Army in
Speaker 2: the conditions, the land conditions of Ukraine. They were using tactics.
Speaker 2: They learned how to fight, you know, the sand niggers
Speaker 2: guys in their little tello, the little bit the rifles
Speaker 2: and the ie eds they were they were talking. They
Speaker 2: were teaching those kinds of tactics against a much lower enemy,
Speaker 2: that against an enemy like the Russian army where you
Speaker 2: know they still have all that Soviet equipment. Okay. The
Speaker 2: other thing is the other thing is that's all acose
Speaker 2: to Clinton, the first Bill Clinton Okay, started this hold
Speaker 2: down with Spiral. What did he do? We went all
Speaker 2: on manufacturing off shore of China is all corruption, So
Speaker 2: we can't we can't make the web. We don't. We
Speaker 2: can't make enough ammunition to supply your career, and either
Speaker 2: can can EU. So we outsourced or manufacturing. But the
Speaker 2: Russians they still have a World War two they kept
Speaker 2: they have all their factories in Siberia, which is too
Speaker 2: far away for three. You can't they have all and
Speaker 2: they beefed it up. So the Russians, I mean, there
Speaker 2: wasn't able to make you like three million artillery shells
Speaker 2: in year. We can't even make one tenth of that, okay,
Speaker 2: and then they make yeah, so so the point.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I kind of want to ask tangental question,
Speaker 1: trying to translate this more into the UFO side. Do
Speaker 1: you think that you have the Russians have a UFO
Speaker 1: reverse engineering program? Do you think we have one? Or
Speaker 1: advanced science in that respect? You know, all right, technology
Speaker 1: that's well beyond any of the stuff that we've kind
Speaker 1: of discussed.
Speaker 2: Right, well, okay, let's put this way. All right, now
Speaker 2: we're gonna get it too. Oh all right, let's let's
Speaker 2: talk about that. All right. We'll get a little bit
Speaker 2: of history here. Who is Jack? Who am I? Who's Jack?
Speaker 2: Start fighting? We would say, Oh, Jack is the he
Speaker 2: has a cunning quick He's talk some third person. It's great. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about who's Jack star fighting? Who am I? Okay?
Speaker 2: When I was a kid. When I was a little
Speaker 2: kid in New York, my grandfather worked for the army, okay,
Speaker 2: and I was living with my parents were divorced, and
Speaker 2: I was eight nine years old. I was living with
Speaker 2: my grandparents and my grandfather, I'm working for the army,
Speaker 2: and so after school and doing the I used to
Speaker 2: go down to where my grandfather worked at the Army
Speaker 2: Quartermaster Corps in the Garment District, Manhattan, near the John
Speaker 2: fourteenth Street around there, garment district, and it just got
Speaker 2: of it. And I was like a kid. Yeah, things
Speaker 2: are pretty simple back then. And here's this ten eight
Speaker 2: ten year old kid. I was able the Army quartermaster
Speaker 2: call was my playground. Yeah. They had all these laps here.
Speaker 2: They had the hot the hot tropical uniforms, cold last
Speaker 2: the cold weather uniforms, and and I was I was
Speaker 2: given free rent. I was able to like run around whatever.
Speaker 2: It was like a playground okay for me. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: was like the only kid. And then I would these
Speaker 2: army officers would come and talk to me, and I
Speaker 2: was a yeah, I was a smart kid. You can
Speaker 2: imagine what I was like. Right in science fiction reading
Speaker 2: The Astounding the twenty other l Ron Hubbard was, you know,
Speaker 2: well these twenty five cent you know Ia Asmov all
Speaker 2: that stuff and talking about rockets. And then but years
Speaker 2: later to jump forward linked forward a little bit when
Speaker 2: Colonel Corso, Philip Corso publish his book the day after
Speaker 2: Roswell Yah. I opened up the book. It was like
Speaker 2: nineteen when was the eighties and nineties, nineteen nineties. I
Speaker 2: opened up the book and I see the photograph of course,
Speaker 2: so and like a recognition, you know, of guys older.
Speaker 2: And I'm pretty sure that one of the main army
Speaker 2: officers who are encouraging talking to me about UFO, talking
Speaker 2: about flying sauces. These army guys are telling me about
Speaker 2: flying sauces back when I was like an eight nine
Speaker 2: year old kid. Okay, well, I'm a nine year old kid, right,
Speaker 2: of course I believe that. You know, I'm driving around
Speaker 2: army cars. My grandpa's driving a car just sitting I'm
Speaker 2: I'll tell you so. And but do you understand what
Speaker 2: I'm telling you? Now? This is like two or three
Speaker 2: years after after oswell for four years man after forty
Speaker 2: nine fifty and and and I who I think is
Speaker 2: Colonel for So, somebody like Colonel for So, you know,
Speaker 2: encouraging my interest in rockets and and uh you know,
Speaker 2: science and telling them the flying sauce and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: So what do you think the nature UFOs is all about?
Speaker 1: What's your opinion?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, you're jumping, You're you're jumping too fast. There's
Speaker 2: a whole history here. Okay. So then I'm in high
Speaker 2: school in Brooklyn and I get recruited into a special
Speaker 2: after school program from Columbia University headed by guy named well,
Speaker 2: it was Eugene Eugene big Dermott was. If you look
Speaker 2: at who Eugene big Dermott is, he's one of the
Speaker 2: founders of Texas Instruments and he was he was actually
Speaker 2: from broken and he was a you know, a top
Speaker 2: guy in World War two, you know with look a
Speaker 2: an m J twelve kind of guy. Just he created
Speaker 2: the university, one of the universities of Texas, and you know,
Speaker 2: it's his money, the Texas Instruments and uh, you know,
Speaker 2: a major, a major figure, and so he had this program.
Speaker 2: They had this program too, but the super Kid Superkid
Speaker 2: program to get these genius kids in math and physics.
Speaker 2: And they would have they were it's like the X Men,
Speaker 2: So is it like the X Men, you know with
Speaker 2: that movie, but we were. They would test the Inswesty,
Speaker 2: if we had psyched, you know that, if we could
Speaker 2: do psychic kinesis teleptidy, the doing all that stuff and
Speaker 2: encouraging flying sauce, you know, worked on flying so stuff
Speaker 2: like that all through high school, well through high.
Speaker 1: School, so they believed it enough to sign you up
Speaker 1: and get you involved. Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, not only me, a bunch of kids, other.
Speaker 1: Kids very galler with you as well.
Speaker 2: Not there. Ian Jelly's in Israel then, seventy years younger
Speaker 2: than me. He's an Israel he was, Okay, he's an Israel. Uh.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I met Isaac Azamo. I's got parties with
Speaker 2: Isaac Gad this group okay, and Iron ran people around,
Speaker 2: Iron ran, you know the fountain here and but the point,
Speaker 2: here's the point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So throughout high school and I was, you know, I
Speaker 2: was skipped in grades. So I graduated high school sixteen
Speaker 2: and uh, this this guy Walter the Breen, Uh he
Speaker 2: wrote they wrote this. They said they wrote a ten
Speaker 2: page report on me on you know, a report which
Speaker 2: apparently sent it to MIT, to Cornell, and to University
Speaker 2: of Chicago. They wanted me to go, Dad, she wanted
Speaker 2: me to go to university for Chicago. Any case I got,
Speaker 2: you know, graduate high school, I got scholarships, so all
Speaker 2: three to MI, T Cornell, and and use the University
Speaker 2: of Chicago. But various reasons. I my mother didn't want
Speaker 2: me to go too far. I I don't know, but
Speaker 2: I got more money from Cornell than from MIT, and
Speaker 2: my mother didn't want me to go as far as Chicago,
Speaker 2: you know, because I think is only two hundred miles
Speaker 2: from New York. So I wound up going to Cornell
Speaker 2: and the physics department Cornell was all the guys who
Speaker 2: built the atomic bomb. Did you see the movie Oppenheimer?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I saw, Yeah, Okay, Well, Johann's Beta, Hans Beta, was
Speaker 2: one of my tutors. He was the head of theoretical
Speaker 2: physics at us alabas Phil Morris. Well, the guys, you know,
Speaker 2: the old the a team for Oppenheimer. Okay, so those
Speaker 2: are the guys who taught me physics at Cornell and
Speaker 2: Cornell back then. This is the late nineteen fifties. I'm
Speaker 2: class of sixty Cornell and of course Ivy League, you know,
Speaker 2: Cornell's ninety League school and uh, you know the CIA
Speaker 2: recruits from you know, from the Ivy League, especially back then.
Speaker 2: And uh and also a lot of my professors were
Speaker 2: from England. One of my friends were from me and
Speaker 2: you know, they connected with the British intelligence so you know,
Speaker 2: in fact I had I was actually Gilbert and Sullivan
Speaker 2: opera singer into and uh and my voice teacher was
Speaker 2: was Keith Faukner, who later became Sir Keith Faulkner, but
Speaker 2: he was a he was like a British Air Force,
Speaker 2: British Naval UH officer in World War Two. It's kind
Speaker 2: of famous Keith Keith Falkner, any quet, but you know,
Speaker 2: I think I was. There's a movie called The Good Shepherd,
Speaker 2: Called The Good Shepherd, it's about James Angleton at Yale
Speaker 2: in the in the right before World War Two, and
Speaker 2: how James Angleton his grandson is a friend of mine, know,
Speaker 2: his grandson, ok And how James and yeah, he's in
Speaker 2: the Gilbert and Sullivan society, Okay, And then the movie
Speaker 2: opens up the movie and I think de Niro de
Speaker 2: Niro's I think it's in that movie. I think I
Speaker 2: think Robert DeNiro is actually in the movie. And Matt
Speaker 2: Matt hell but you know that Matt, Yeah, the guy
Speaker 2: from Harvard. In any case, So the scene opens up
Speaker 2: where they're doing a Gilbert and Sullivan and the James
Speaker 2: Angleton character. He's dressed as a woman because they had
Speaker 2: the women the only men there Yale nineteen thirty Skull
Speaker 2: and Bones, that whole thing, and he's recruited by the
Speaker 2: British intelligence helped form the CIA. This is true, based
Speaker 2: on a true story. Okay, same thing happening, you know,
Speaker 2: it's part of that and and so so what happens? Okay,
Speaker 2: so various things happen. I I go to uh in
Speaker 2: the in nineteen sixty six. I'm with Leerner Heisenberg. You know,
Speaker 2: Lenda Heisenberg, was Heisenberg. I'm spending I spent the summer.
Speaker 2: I spent July I think it was Jiants nineteen sixty
Speaker 2: six with John Archibald Wheeler familiar Heisenberg and some other
Speaker 2: people at the Max Poonk Institute in Munich. And in
Speaker 2: Munich only ten sixty twenty years after the World War Two.
Speaker 2: You think they took or no, no, wait, just wait.
Speaker 2: This is why I don't get there. Okay, but I
Speaker 2: wanted this and but here with Heisenberg and these guys,
Speaker 2: uh and but about general relativity, you know, they didn't
Speaker 2: talk about UFOs was I was by way, it's a NATO.
Speaker 2: This was a NATO summer school and Nadim Sumer school.
Speaker 2: From there, I go over to Her Majesty's Atomic Energy
Speaker 2: Research Establishment at Harwell, Okay, which is kind of like
Speaker 2: the Lawrence like Los Alamos, you know, but British britt
Speaker 2: you know, smaller scale, the British version. And yeah, I
Speaker 2: go there and various things happened, and then then what happens? Okay,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I'm jumping to Now. I'm then an assistant
Speaker 2: professor of physics at San Diego State, which is a
Speaker 2: Navy town, Navy town, and you know, Mary patriotic. Is
Speaker 2: this is like the late nineteen sixties, and we ran
Speaker 2: the program of float college education for the US Navy
Speaker 2: out of San Diego State. Okay, so he used to
Speaker 2: go on Navy ships. Is he was on Navy ships.
Speaker 2: And in nineteen seventy now we're getting to UFOs. So
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy one, nineteen seventy one, I was on the
Speaker 2: uss tykwond Rogo, which is like a small aircraft you know,
Speaker 2: it's this old aircraft carrier in the helicopter thing, and
Speaker 2: we sailed from San Diego to Pearl Harbor. It was
Speaker 2: that on the Tekondo Rogan. Yeah, this was Teikonic seventy one. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I forget, well maybe late six I'm not for exactly
Speaker 2: window there's a long time regollar. And but while there,
Speaker 2: there's this guy the Naval Intelligence sky on board. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we we have a physics crib teaching because and so
Speaker 2: he can and he started talking to me about the UFOs. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We're sitting here way on the Pacific Ocean, you know,
Speaker 2: going across the Pearl Harbor. Yeah, so we spent a
Speaker 2: lot of time talk about UFOs back then. So I
Speaker 2: saw with the Navy back then at least okay, explicit
Speaker 2: and oh no, I must say, you know, this is
Speaker 2: kind of just I'm not I'm not an agent of
Speaker 2: blady me putent fucking assholes. Excuse me, I'm talking about Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Colonel John B. Alexander, that schmuck. That
Speaker 2: even schmuck. Okay, But but the point is, so we're
Speaker 2: sally at the Pearl Harbor. You know, they hit all
Speaker 2: the sailors and you know we're all standing there. We
Speaker 2: go past, you know, the Arizona you know, the World
Speaker 2: War I mean, you know, like I even I tear
Speaker 2: up even now thinking of that. So you know, you know,
Speaker 2: I remember World War Two. My my uncle, my uncle
Speaker 2: was four and a half. It was four years in
Speaker 2: combat in the South Pacific, you know, the whole time.
Speaker 2: So you know, I really remember World War Two even
Speaker 2: though I can remember it.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: All right, okay, so here okay, so so u fos Okay,
Speaker 2: So now I'm back to San Diego State. Now now
Speaker 2: it's gonna get weird. That's gonna really weird. Okay, okay, no,
Speaker 2: and now now now Uri Gellick enters the picture. So
Speaker 2: it's like nineteen seventy two, I guess nineteen seventy two,
Speaker 2: late nineteen seventy two, and I'm living on campus, off
Speaker 2: campus with this other physics professor named Fred Allen Wolf
Speaker 2: find if you heard of him. He's kind of well
Speaker 2: known at the time. They were too we both got divorced. Stupid.
Speaker 2: You know you can read that how it me say?
Speaker 2: Physics the book?
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of the history is already out there.
Speaker 1: I'm more curious in your opinions on the phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and so uh. Fred gets a call from
Speaker 2: his high school Chicago high school buddy named Bob Tobin
Speaker 2: and and Bob says the boss to come after you know,
Speaker 2: won't pay a visit. Bob is a zanty guy, but
Speaker 2: he has a lot of money. He made a lot
Speaker 2: of money on the Chicago commodities market. He's he's rolling
Speaker 2: in money. Bob comes and movie stays with us and
Speaker 2: Bob starts. So he says, business is rarely psychic named
Speaker 2: Uri Yella, he's able to bend metal with his mind. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 2: at this time, you got to understand fred Wolf very straight.
Speaker 2: He you know, he had working in nuclear atomic physics
Speaker 2: of nuclear explosions and air Force contracts. I was actually
Speaker 2: working on Air Force nuclear explosion contract at the time,
Speaker 2: and very straight, you know, Bermuda Schwitz. Uh. Austin Healey
Speaker 2: and I had a what did I have? I had?
Speaker 2: I had Alpha Mao spit by whatever you know, and
Speaker 2: it's a navy town. And he said, he says, uh,
Speaker 2: he says to friend, listen, I have a book contract,
Speaker 2: and I have a television thing we want to do,
Speaker 2: like a series. I want to do a show on
Speaker 2: Uri Gella, and we need physicists to explain how can
Speaker 2: Uri Gella do what he does? And we didn't know,
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, we know anything anykay, So we said, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: we didn't know. It was start brainstorming with him. But okay,
Speaker 2: one thing leads to another and let me let me,
Speaker 2: let me see how to do this now and he leaves.
Speaker 2: He leaves, Bob leaves, and Fred gets a call. It's
Speaker 2: like now the spring, early spring of seventy three. Fred
Speaker 2: gets a call from a friend of his, both in
Speaker 2: Paris and in London, that he's often to teach atomic
Speaker 2: physics at the University of Paris and also teach you
Speaker 2: at the University of London Burke Coulge, where I had
Speaker 2: actually been. I've been there myself too, with David Bole,
Speaker 2: David Bolt and h So he'd be commuting, he'd be
Speaker 2: living in Paris and London. You don't like teach one
Speaker 2: day a week in Paris, one day a week in
Speaker 2: London and just commute. They pay his way and teaching
Speaker 2: atomic physics. Okay, Yeah. Then I get a phone I
Speaker 2: get a phone call from this Salam who I had
Speaker 2: already known because I've been working back and forth. I
Speaker 2: was I was at the British Atomic Energy Commission, you know,
Speaker 2: with back and forth, you know stuff like that. I'm
Speaker 2: the Salaam is the chairman. He's a Pakistani but a
Speaker 2: British expat, well like Pechistan. You're living in England and
Speaker 2: he's he's the head of the head of Theoretical Physics
Speaker 2: department at the Imperial College of London. It was like
Speaker 2: them I team of England. But he also runs a
Speaker 2: International Institute of Theoretical Physics in Trieste, Italy, which is
Speaker 2: partly it's UNSCO it's a ulan so it's Russian, Russian physicists,
Speaker 2: Indian physicists, African and you know, French, American and also
Speaker 2: it Yeah, and he says he was following some of
Speaker 2: my work. He's that he was interested in, says Jack,
Speaker 2: Why don't you come to trust Italy work at I
Speaker 2: know I'm invited there. Yeah, say me there, and we
Speaker 2: want to leave San Diego anyway, it was getting born
Speaker 2: sod to, you know, so we both wind up. Okay,
Speaker 2: so we're on our way to Europe. But now I'm
Speaker 2: on my way to Europe. From before going to Europe.
Speaker 2: This is now like, uh, maybe it's June, maybe it's
Speaker 2: June of maybe it's May. I'm not sure, you know,
Speaker 2: early early spring, early summer, nineteen seventy three, and I'm
Speaker 2: in I'm about to fly from San Francisco to London
Speaker 2: on my way to Trieste. Now it gets very weird.
Speaker 2: It's gonna get very weird.
Speaker 1: Do you see some UFOs?
Speaker 2: Just wait, I'm.
Speaker 1: I want to hear about the you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you know, be patient. This is more than
Speaker 2: it's UFOs and more more than you know. I'm in
Speaker 2: bed my girlfriend at her mother's house in Carmel Valley's
Speaker 2: beautiful place near Big near near near Big Serve. And
Speaker 2: and Sharon's mother brings in the Sunday paper, Sunday Chronicle magazine.
Speaker 2: I ope, up the magazine section. I get this. This
Speaker 2: is twilight Zone. Now, this is like, okay, this is
Speaker 2: this is UFOs on steroids. Okay you want to upho. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well it's twilight Zone. Yeah, I believe it's worth it.
Speaker 2: But there's a big article, multi page colored article. I
Speaker 2: guess it's about it's about urry Yella who you were
Speaker 2: just we're on our way over to Oh yeah, well
Speaker 2: so because Bob said, Bob Toban giving us money, said,
Speaker 2: don't have money, I give you all the money. We'll
Speaker 2: meet you in Europe, Bob. We're so it was Bob
Speaker 2: Tubant telling us to go to Europe. And then we
Speaker 2: get phone calls from from the from England, and you know,
Speaker 2: for for for Fred and I to go to England
Speaker 2: turns out this is all a c I A operation.
Speaker 2: It's all Central Intelligence Agency, right, okay. And so I
Speaker 2: opened up the thing, and I say, Uri Gala and
Speaker 2: and and they have their testing all these psychics, the
Speaker 2: psychic powers. And I say to shared, he said, Hey, Sharon,
Speaker 2: this is exactly what Bob Tauban is sending us over
Speaker 2: there for pay. You know, you're taking the tickets every day. Okay,
Speaker 2: the coincidence, as I said, it's Sunday. So I said,
Speaker 2: Monday mon, we're leaving. I'm leaving on Wednesday and flying
Speaker 2: the sfone on Wednesday. That's Monday morning. Got Monday morning.
Speaker 2: I got to call these guys. So I get the phone.
Speaker 2: Never I call, Yeah, this guy, this Irish guy, Brendan o'reagan,
Speaker 2: gets on the phone. Get this snail. Oh doctor, so
Speaker 2: facty we were helping you would call us. I didn't
Speaker 2: stand how weird that is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, synchronicities, I think that they say.
Speaker 2: You know, and well, it's it's more than synchroticity. Explain yeah,
Speaker 2: but you can't. How do they know that Sharon's mother
Speaker 2: is going to bring in the newspaper and I'm gonna
Speaker 2: read the new and I'm gonna Thursday. I turn, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna turn and I see the article. Yeah, how could
Speaker 2: the CIA even? This can't? This is much more than
Speaker 2: c I A CIA is part of it. So do
Speaker 2: you I.
Speaker 1: Between the CIA and the consciousness and the UFOs?
Speaker 2: Then oh, okay, but you're jumping too fast because your
Speaker 2: mind you're like, you're like you're like a little old
Speaker 2: transistor radio and a big German broadband cloud flop pup.
Speaker 2: You can't imagine what I'm gonna tell you. Maybe you
Speaker 2: can't if you heard some of the earlier, earlier things,
Speaker 2: but you're not. You're like Tucher calls with Putin.
Speaker 1: And I actually I was thinking about that. This is
Speaker 1: kind of like that, because you're telling the history story
Speaker 1: like Putin was. But all I want to know about
Speaker 1: is the UFOs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because because your mind is too slog I appreciate history,
Speaker 2: but because yeah, because you're suffering cognitive dysfunctions. And I'm
Speaker 2: going to give you a little bit. I'm giving you
Speaker 2: a little biagraph your to your mind.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I got with me.
Speaker 2: Just bear with me. Okay, So the wait okay, so
Speaker 2: so and he says, he says, can you drive? They
Speaker 2: know where I am an hour away, Obbi, I was
Speaker 2: Survelian me right, okay, who knows well? And so he said,
Speaker 2: can you we'd like to talk to you. So I
Speaker 2: get my car, which is great, and I drive up
Speaker 2: to SRI's like ten o'clock in the morning on Monday morning.
Speaker 2: Remember I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, okay. And I'm met
Speaker 2: at SRI there and Brendan beat Steed and he says
Speaker 2: he first, he says, takes me across the street to
Speaker 2: the Institute of the WTICS Science. And guess who I meet.
Speaker 2: The first guy I meet besides Brendan is edgar Mitchell.
Speaker 2: Do you know edgar Mitchell?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think he's made some pretty profound statements about
Speaker 1: life and UF yes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes I meet him if I shake hands.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sitting in edgar Mitchell's office right with Brenda.
Speaker 2: Brendan Irish national by the way, from Dublin, from Dublin,
Speaker 2: and I think he comes from a fan from you know,
Speaker 2: the family who run the Irish Times or something like,
Speaker 2: you know, he said, kind of like an Irish aristocrat.
Speaker 2: That guy British Intelligence, right, this is CIA, this is
Speaker 2: a CIA, you know how put off. Okay, so I
Speaker 2: wind up. We have lunch or something I guess was
Speaker 2: Edgar bringing sandwiches or something. Then they take me to
Speaker 2: a guy named Dean Brown. Dean Brown. Dean Brown is
Speaker 2: one of these original Stanford member. This is now you know,
Speaker 2: the Stanford the Venture Silicon Valley, Venture Capital's eyes and
Speaker 2: was Dean Brown. And okay. Now it turns out the
Speaker 2: CIA tape recorded all this, and somebody sent me part
Speaker 2: of that tape recording from nineteen seventy three, which is
Speaker 2: now on SoundCloud. If you go to SoundCloud but to
Speaker 2: jackstar Body CIA nineteen seventy three, you can listen to
Speaker 2: the meeting in which I am introduced at Dean Brown's
Speaker 2: house to Harold put Off, Russell Togg and then a
Speaker 2: bunch of other people there too, And in that take
Speaker 2: you can hear Russell Togg talking about how they think
Speaker 2: flying sources of time machines from the future. You're just
Speaker 2: looking at Russell talk. You don't take my word. And
Speaker 2: then see I had remembered when I was thirteen, I
Speaker 2: was contacted these weird phone calls, but said it was
Speaker 2: said it was a conscious artificial conscious computer on board
Speaker 2: a spacecraft from the future and that they want to
Speaker 2: tee I was part of a group of care that
Speaker 2: they wanted to teach their technology too. In any case,
Speaker 2: I had, you know, Brendan kind of knew about that.
Speaker 2: So I had been talking with Edgar Mitchell and Brendan
Speaker 2: and you're about about my I had remembered my my
Speaker 2: experience at the age of thirteen. Oh and then but
Speaker 2: they said I would meet the others in twenty years.
Speaker 2: This is nineteen seventy three, so it was twenty years later.
Speaker 2: And here I am at Sri Okay, like okay, in
Speaker 2: any case, So you'll hear me talking on that tape.
Speaker 2: I say to Brenda, said, Brenda, shake, tell him what
Speaker 2: we talked about. Brendan, yeah, says go ahead. You hear it.
Speaker 2: You're hearing you hear you know, you hear the actual event.
Speaker 2: And I talk about what happened, and you'll hear Brenda saying, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we have we have data on several hundred incidents of
Speaker 2: that kind. Did the data on it? Okay, So there
Speaker 2: we are, so you want to and then they talk about,
Speaker 2: you know, where we go.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't just you. There was other people that
Speaker 1: have had similar experience.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, including hal put Off apparently Hal Pop. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly, but how told me in nineteen
Speaker 2: How told me We're on a bus in London with
Speaker 2: Kit Green. You know, Christopher Green is Kit Green and see, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm with Kit Green and hal put Off and sit
Speaker 2: on a bus that's Stewart have her office. So he
Speaker 2: was trying to get on the bus. We're going from
Speaker 2: the Temple to the meeting of dinner at the Temple.
Speaker 2: What was I to get where we're going? And how?
Speaker 2: He said? Yeah, I just said how. I said, yeah,
Speaker 2: when he was a kid, he had some strange stuff.
Speaker 2: And then uh, somebody interrupted the conversation, so he didn't
Speaker 2: tell me the full detail. But do you ever get
Speaker 2: hal Puto? Fun asked alcout what before he dies? He's
Speaker 2: older than me, you know, before he dies? Well, what
Speaker 2: happened to him as a kid? Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And so there were and then they say, well, why
Speaker 2: why am I at? Why am I there? They want
Speaker 2: me to help set up test Saburi Geller at the
Speaker 2: University of London, which happened. Yeah, well but no, they
Speaker 2: wanted other labs to corroborate obcessit and Okay, all this
Speaker 2: is in the you know, this is all in how
Speaker 2: NPSA Physics, my book Destiny Matrix. There's a new book
Speaker 2: by there's a new book by uh I guy, David
Speaker 2: Glasste's on Amazon called The Great Race. It goes up
Speaker 2: to David Grusht by David grush Media. Okay, so there
Speaker 2: we go. Now, do you understand the whole point in
Speaker 2: telling you this story is that the only way to
Speaker 2: understand those events from nineteen fifty three, predicting I was
Speaker 2: going to meet hal Puto for all these guys in
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy three which happened, is that that this is
Speaker 2: all being manipulated by the non human intelligence of the
Speaker 2: tic TACs, you know with the mnibbits encounters. They are
Speaker 2: manipulating all this from back from the future. It's all
Speaker 2: time travel. You that say it's time travel. The only
Speaker 2: way to understand this the c i A fact. Then look,
Speaker 2: look how stupid the CIA is. Now we've got some
Speaker 2: really stupid people running the c I aside Burns, they're idiots.
Speaker 2: The people who got me into this back then we're
Speaker 2: the smarter than people. Now we have real idiots running
Speaker 2: the c I A. They're totally incompetent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So do you think that UFOs that are just
Speaker 1: us from the future? Do you think it could be
Speaker 1: aliens from the future or how do you what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Why? Why? Why is it? Why is it a zero?
Speaker 2: Why is it one of the most both to do
Speaker 2: you think it's definitely? It's definitely both interesting?
Speaker 1: And what do you think about the UFO community, Like
Speaker 1: some of these celebrities that are out there. Let's just say,
Speaker 1: you know, doctor Stephen Greer, Luelzando, Jeremy Corbel.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's let's let's be precise. Now, let's slow down.
Speaker 1: Okay, you want to go one at a time.
Speaker 2: Still, one at a time.
Speaker 1: Well, let's start with Jeremy Corbell, because my opinion is
Speaker 1: he thinks that it can't be us, that it's got
Speaker 1: to be aliens. What do you think about him?
Speaker 2: He's an idiot, Bella, he's a well me he said, Well,
Speaker 2: you know, he's a schmucke. Covell's a schmuck, he said,
Speaker 2: d UN's he runs, he knows what is his educational background?
Speaker 2: What does it? Well? Does he ever? Does he have
Speaker 2: a degree in physics?
Speaker 1: Definitely not.
Speaker 2: There's a degree in mathematics. Is he an engineer, there's
Speaker 2: all the physics, there's all the technical problem. You gotta understand,
Speaker 2: there's all technical problem. Yeah he's yeah, he's he's he's
Speaker 2: an airhead. Yeah, okay, let's go.
Speaker 1: About let's let rapid fire of these out. What about Louison?
Speaker 1: What do you think about him?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a military guy. Yeah, he's inde information.
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh he definitely now okay, okay, lois a soldier.
Speaker 2: He again, I don't know. He doesn't have much of
Speaker 2: a technical background, and he was basically drafted into this
Speaker 2: by schmucks and wherever the schmucks above him and the
Speaker 2: ship from Shinola, and so you know, he's he's like
Speaker 2: David Crush, except David. I think he has a little
Speaker 2: bit more physics math background then than lou So my
Speaker 2: beef with lou was that he was too much of
Speaker 2: a whim when when uh Frank Milburn or Frank Milburn's
Speaker 2: this x s a s British soldier suffering from PTSD
Speaker 2: a little bit. But you know, he's a he wrote
Speaker 2: these two papers for the beginnings that dot uh mosad
Speaker 2: idea think tank at Baroline University of Isriel, and he
Speaker 2: wrote these two things, and I'm in it. He describes
Speaker 2: my stuff pretty well, does a pretty good job. And
Speaker 2: also Louis in it and Chris mull World in it. Right,
Speaker 2: And then when when when people have asked, uh, Louis
Speaker 2: about the Sarfari physics, he's just he doesn't, you know,
Speaker 2: he didn't want to say anything that partly because he's
Speaker 2: not a physicist. So actually maybe that was good.
Speaker 1: But and uh, do you think he's asked where he
Speaker 1: has an NDA and he can't speak about some of
Speaker 1: it because it's national security issue.
Speaker 2: Well, of course, well that's what he says, so you've
Speaker 2: got to believe what he says. And all right, so
Speaker 2: I think Louis is trying to do the right thing.
Speaker 2: But louis involved with some people who are who are
Speaker 2: who I don't like Louis involved with, well, Chris Smeller.
Speaker 2: Maybe Chris and I will make up. You know, Gary Nolan,
Speaker 2: you know, I'm pissed off because I pissed him off.
Speaker 2: He's emotional. And who else Colonel John Alexander and Eric
Speaker 2: Davis some of these people, you know, Uh, there's a
Speaker 2: whole other story. Okay, so go ahead ask me.
Speaker 1: So I guess the next one is doctor Stephen Greer.
Speaker 1: Do you think he's had inside information?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he has agreed. I always got into a fistfight
Speaker 2: with Grill.
Speaker 1: That's funny.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and four, we're on the same as
Speaker 2: Santa Fe.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know what he said, because I did. I
Speaker 2: thought three was a communist. Yeah, you say, oh, I know,
Speaker 2: saying back then, I was a schmuck myself. And I
Speaker 2: think I was sort of a neo con back then
Speaker 2: because I was four, that's right. I believed all the
Speaker 2: bullshit about Iraq.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all that stuff.
Speaker 2: And and actually I maybe I agree an apology because
Speaker 2: he said something bad about the president about all that,
Speaker 2: and I think, but he's a big guy. Yeah, he's steroids, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: he works out. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, so so okay.
Speaker 2: But the thing about Korea, he's a bit of a
Speaker 2: He struck me as being a bit of a cult leader.
Speaker 2: You know, he gets the scullible people, they go out there,
Speaker 2: he charges money. Yeah, he makes money off it. So
Speaker 2: that makes me suspicious. But I think some of the
Speaker 2: stuff you know, he did you know some of the
Speaker 2: people with us is yeah, it's true. I I know
Speaker 2: it's true. I agree. We haven't gotten to that yet,
Speaker 2: so agree is a big bag?
Speaker 1: Got it? Okay? Cool, And we'll talk a little bit
Speaker 1: more about some of his opinions here in a second,
Speaker 1: because and we may come to other people. Those are
Speaker 1: the main three that I wanted to get your opinion on.
Speaker 1: What I wanted. The next is, since you talked about
Speaker 1: this idea of retro causality, with this idea that information
Speaker 1: from the future can float to the past, what do
Speaker 1: you think the best evidence in science and physics is
Speaker 1: of retro causality. Do you think the doul slit experiment
Speaker 1: can explain that? Or do you have some other better evidence?
Speaker 1: Although I guess that's good. Possibly, And are you familiar with.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait, at this point we got to get into
Speaker 2: my Now you want to do physics, Okay, just justimated.
Speaker 2: We got to do screen right?
Speaker 1: You want to do the equations?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, because the only way to do it otherwise.
Speaker 2: You know. I'm also I'm losing my voice. I can't. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have a weak vocal cord. I strained it too
Speaker 2: much when I was saying I point o, hang on.
Speaker 1: Make sure you hide your only.
Speaker 2: Hang on. What happens to my joining your meeting? What
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Speaker 2: damn wait? What's Hang on a minute? Sure, hang on
Speaker 2: a minute, I gotta do. Why don't you talk to
Speaker 2: your guys?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm doing ok hold on the screen from you, I.
Speaker 2: Think Okay, five three nine ks? All right, okay, you
Speaker 2: can right. We're back on this all right, okay, No, no,
Speaker 2: I want to know. I'm going to I want to
Speaker 2: get back on on screen again. Okay, wait, okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm ready now, okay, I'm ready. Okay, okay, So
Speaker 2: you see my thing?
Speaker 1: No, I don't see you.
Speaker 2: Do you see it now? No?
Speaker 1: Still don't?
Speaker 2: Oh fuck? What happened? Oh wait? Okay, share screens? I
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Speaker 1: There we go, Now I can see it.
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. Ok there we go. Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: do you see my You see my white pad?
Speaker 1: Yep, we see it? Go for it looks good?
Speaker 2: All right, all right, okay, ask me the question.
Speaker 1: So I guess the question is, what do you think
Speaker 1: of what's the best evidence of retro causality? Would you
Speaker 1: say the delayed choice quantum eraser is a good uh?
Speaker 2: Now let me okay, let me go, okay, retro personality. Yeah,
Speaker 2: do you see that? Yep, the idea I think I
Speaker 2: get right, then I can't get right then if I
Speaker 2: if I carry this all right, yeah, all right, okay,
Speaker 2: now your first let me get the history history.
Speaker 1: We can't see your face either, but go ahead.
Speaker 2: Oh you can't see my face I.
Speaker 1: Covered up or something that looks like all right, that's.
Speaker 2: The problem with this thing. Okay, that's the problem. Okay, okay,
Speaker 2: all right, So now the history around nineteen forty. Oh actually,
Speaker 2: oh we'll go nineteen forty wheeler, wheeler. So once you
Speaker 2: gotta do guys find men will fun Well, you go
Speaker 2: to Wikipedia, even though even though go to Wikipedia, how
Speaker 2: do you spell Wikipedia? Pedia?
Speaker 1: You got it?
Speaker 2: All all these key words. You just go just put
Speaker 2: in wheel of fineman. You got to do your homework.
Speaker 2: This is you know, yeah, this is serious stuff. You
Speaker 2: can just get a SAP, you know, for attention Different
Speaker 2: disorder US. Okay, wheel finding advanced advanced potentials, Advanced electromagnetic potentials. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's you know, back from the future, mhm future, got it.
Speaker 2: But that's classical. This is not tuantum. Okay, this is
Speaker 2: all classical that's a classical, classical physics. It's okay, then
Speaker 2: let's jump. Then we have uh Freid of oil oil
Speaker 2: and Cambridge Isaac Newton, Newton professor Stavid Hawking took his job.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it was Denis anthes as defensor. I thought
Speaker 2: the intelligent Intelligent Universe is a book. Intelligent Universe around
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six or so, a book, you know, get
Speaker 2: that book or look at look look at that. But
Speaker 2: he talks about retro consality, that the universe is created
Speaker 2: from the future. Okay, that's Fred Hoyle, all right. Around
Speaker 2: nineteen sixty four, we have a student student of David Boone.
Speaker 2: Look up all these people, David Boone, who worked with Einstein.
Speaker 1: En bone affects.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and but he but but but
Speaker 2: but yak kia yeah, kiah m hm.
Speaker 1: He's still alive ninety one, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I saw, I saw him not too long ago.
Speaker 2: He was there. I can tell you about Yeah, he
Speaker 2: was there. They would put off the dog, I mean
Speaker 2: with Kit Green and and and and put off in
Speaker 2: London because of the Boone. We at the bone pestle
Speaker 2: I just coronal, that's ird. I think that said. Yeah,
Speaker 2: what's called weak measurement theory, week measurement mhm, big measurement.
Speaker 2: Look at that per minute. And then uh, quantum quantum,
Speaker 2: this is quantum mechanics, yeah, mechanics. And this is practical stuff.
Speaker 2: This is stuff that can do with the laboratory. It's
Speaker 2: such as theoretical and basically, but that is this is
Speaker 2: here now, yeah, And this is what's called this is
Speaker 2: this is time, this is space okay. And this is
Speaker 2: what's called a future h uh boundary condition condition and
Speaker 2: this is past a past boundary. And then he has
Speaker 2: what's happening here? You have a there's a sideway side destiny,
Speaker 2: he calls it. This is his blang wuage must.
Speaker 1: That's fine, that's not a it's not an art contest, okay.
Speaker 2: And here you have another wave, second wave pside history,
Speaker 2: and they sort of they create what happens there. Yeah, okay, okay, it's.
Speaker 1: About the future and the past or in influence in
Speaker 1: the present.
Speaker 2: Yes, this is the future cause future cause past cause mhm,
Speaker 2: past cause. Oh let me make a little digression here.
Speaker 1: Sure, do.
Speaker 2: You know Stephen Stephen Stephen wolf friend wolf, Yeah, mathematica, Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know about mathematica it's the main pro it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's a he's a smart guy. He
Speaker 2: worked at Mark Burry and he's a yeah, he's good
Speaker 2: if we worked at Burry go in any case. He
Speaker 2: has this thing called computational universe. Mutational universe. You know,
Speaker 2: are we a simulation? Are we living in a simulation? Ask?
Speaker 1: Do you believe in the holographic principle? What is your thoughts?
Speaker 2: Well, this is all well wait a minute, jumping to
Speaker 2: you know, I get that that's a good question, but
Speaker 2: just remind me peeped out the back.
Speaker 1: Well it's on my list.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, he has this. But you know, he's kind
Speaker 2: of like that we're living in a city. I mean
Speaker 2: what he's saying would be consistent with that we're living
Speaker 2: in a simulation. You were like with someone else's video game.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, time has no meaning. And if it's just
Speaker 1: you know, the future and the pastor in the president.
Speaker 2: Well it has been eating. Don't say it has no meaning.
Speaker 2: It has been. You're right, the meeting you think it has,
Speaker 2: it doesn't have the meeting you think it hasn't. Don't oversimplify,
Speaker 2: as Einstein said, keep it as simple as possible. But
Speaker 2: not simpler than is possible. And that's what all you
Speaker 2: guys do. You mean, you know you're like cartoons, You're
Speaker 2: that you know, you're like you're like, as you said,
Speaker 2: Tucker Cross, it would line to be a boot serious
Speaker 2: you know, tell you.
Speaker 1: My generation what I say, we're full add I just
Speaker 1: want to know.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, yes, yes, I know, I know I know that.
Speaker 2: But you know what, Okay, but here's an important thing.
Speaker 2: Why are you bringing that up? Yeah? Most of the
Speaker 2: American kids are that way, and that's why, that's why,
Speaker 2: that's why America is is weak. That's a big national
Speaker 2: security threat. And to some extent it's less. England is
Speaker 2: going that way. It's like dying now. But guess who
Speaker 2: isn't that way? The Russian kids are not that way,
Speaker 2: and especially the Chinese and the Indians, they have something
Speaker 2: called bricks. So the America, what's happening? So you know
Speaker 2: I didn't want Okay, let's get it. Let's just keep
Speaker 2: basically yeah, let's keep it on the physics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically being destroyed, being.
Speaker 2: Destroyed within Yeah, because because people, most American kids cannot
Speaker 2: just too much for them.
Speaker 1: Much to speed here right now. In fact, I think
Speaker 1: a lot of America. They want to know more about this.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, but also I think you know kids who
Speaker 2: was watching this especially much. You had a lot of Russian, Chinese,
Speaker 2: and Indian probably kids from all over the world watching this. Okay,
Speaker 2: so they're gonna get it.
Speaker 1: They're judging your hand right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, whatever they can.
Speaker 1: Uh so what about the holographic principle though? So yeah yeah, wait.
Speaker 2: Wait wait okay, so wait, so wait I have finished
Speaker 2: my point. I'm I'm I'm on a trajectory, I'm on
Speaker 2: a narrative.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep it going.
Speaker 2: The wolf from his raw Wolf has made a big
Speaker 2: wolf from wolfs uh folly because his his algorithm algorithms
Speaker 2: only run one way in time past the president, right,
Speaker 2: they only have they only have side history. Okay, that's
Speaker 2: why they don't work. Yeah, they don't work. They looks
Speaker 2: not half of it. Let's not half of it now.
Speaker 2: So the point is, okay, and the other schmucks who
Speaker 2: are the other schmucks other schmucks? Because both we have
Speaker 2: well well yeah, wil from We're will from with Weinstein,
Speaker 2: Eric Weinstein.
Speaker 1: Eric Weinstein, Okay, I want to know your opinion.
Speaker 2: On him, Eric Weinstein. We have, uh we have what's
Speaker 2: his name? Sam Altman?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a, I got guess what.
Speaker 2: He's my next door neigh but he's my next my
Speaker 2: next door get him here is a sunk I don
Speaker 2: Ai program. Yeah no, boy, oh good, we got to
Speaker 2: get that on there. Yeah yeah, Sam Altman chat and
Speaker 2: and uh Eland Musk.
Speaker 1: I think you just docked Stam Altman.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, well they have to have ducked myself.
Speaker 1: And I want to know your opinion on him as well,
Speaker 1: like why.
Speaker 2: You know, like what yeah, yeah, yeah, we're gonna talk
Speaker 2: about good rock and rockets, rockets. He's the guys brilliant
Speaker 2: in their way. Okay, but who else who's Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: Lex Freedman.
Speaker 1: Why don't you like likes Freedman?
Speaker 2: I like him. That's I mean truck Man. I don't
Speaker 2: like him.
Speaker 1: I mean he just science.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a slow yeah yeah, yeah you do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know you're making stupid mistakes.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, I actually agree with you and all these people,
Speaker 1: to be honest.
Speaker 2: Yeah, in terms of what Yeah, and Joe Rogan too,
Speaker 2: who are somebody?
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's Getjoe Rugan on that list for sure. You
Speaker 1: think seventy videos have video game graphics and then when
Speaker 1: they're showing.
Speaker 2: Uh okay, oh right, so what so the point is
Speaker 2: that's what doing.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely getting canceled from Joe Rogan. I burnt that
Speaker 1: bridge you did?
Speaker 2: Okay, that's okay. Yeah, here we go to the next one. Okay.
Speaker 2: So the point is all a I, hey, I.
Speaker 1: It's not conscious Yeah, just language learning models, right, yeah.
Speaker 2: Not conscious? Why because in order to make them conscious,
Speaker 2: you have to have the thing coming from the future.
Speaker 2: You have to have SI history sigh, destiny, and then
Speaker 2: that's going to generate consciousness in a cent consciousness almost
Speaker 2: not almost almost almost need both of them.
Speaker 1: Interrupt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean what is what is? Okay, Si,
Speaker 2: let's go pig history? Is memory? A memory that's called
Speaker 2: uh that's uh, that is quantum entanglement we pr quantum entanglement.
Speaker 2: Angle yeah, men signaling signaling angling past the present. It's
Speaker 2: it's actually what it's like Frank will Will checks Will
Speaker 2: Sex Nobel Prize and Nobel Prize. I think I have
Speaker 2: another way, uh time crystal effect. It's a time crystal
Speaker 2: we are we are that's us we we we we
Speaker 2: are like time when a memory when when suddenly a
Speaker 2: memory pops into your consciousness, right, you know you have
Speaker 2: an idea, you remember something suddenly remember you think you
Speaker 2: know that that that's that's uh, that's the effect of
Speaker 2: the of the history quantum waves in your in your brain.
Speaker 2: But that's set where certain certain memories will pop up
Speaker 2: at certain times in your stream of consciousness. Okay, but
Speaker 2: what about the other one, the other one side destiny
Speaker 2: mm hmm, that is intuition, intuition, creativity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this paper.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know Mozart, Mozart, you know Mozart, Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: Mozart said when he wrote his music, he said he
Speaker 2: was just listening to him. It was just popping up
Speaker 2: in his mind. He was remote viewing his future performances.
Speaker 2: That's called the loop and time loop. And this guy
Speaker 2: named Nova cop physics nob Cop Igor igor no cop Moscow.
Speaker 2: I think he's said he may be Moscow. Book River
Speaker 2: River of Time, River of Time. Get that book. This
Speaker 2: let me let me. This is a book, everybody, okay,
Speaker 2: Igor Nobe cough book River Mum Time. Also some of
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. Just get David Gladstone. David Gladstone,
Speaker 2: Great Race, Great race, goes up me. It's about me
Speaker 2: and up to David Crush. David Grush, you know he's
Speaker 2: congressional at Congress. Okay, that's on Amazon Amazon, get the
Speaker 2: kindles cheeked Amazon kindle. Don't shoot that on there. But okay,
Speaker 2: all right, okay, all right, so now where where were we? Now?
Speaker 2: So what will you asking me about?
Speaker 1: Well, so I guess the next thing is in terms
Speaker 1: of time in general, do you think it's deterministic or
Speaker 1: do you think do you think that's morisonic string theory?
Speaker 1: We have different timelines. Now, I think you've done a
Speaker 1: good Uh you've presented the science here and and the
Speaker 1: people who.
Speaker 2: Are Okay, okay, now wait, now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: There are two views exactly.
Speaker 2: Two views. One is one is many worlds. Okay, so
Speaker 2: now but you have to look at Max tegwalk Max,
Speaker 2: take mark at m I T just looking up and
Speaker 2: he has uh uh he has this this, this, this
Speaker 2: level one, one, two, three and four. Okay, Uh, there
Speaker 2: are different meanings out there's this is levels one and
Speaker 2: two is all classical classical uh matter, and level three
Speaker 2: is mental by the mental worlds. Okay, side these sideways. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it depends what you're talking about. Okay. The different
Speaker 2: the different levels. See, people are too sloppy about this self.
Speaker 2: What do you mean by you know, the universe itself? Okay,
Speaker 2: now I have do a little cosmology. What you uh,
Speaker 2: Here is the let's say the initial singularity, official white hole.
Speaker 2: That's called a white hole. Oh okay, And this is
Speaker 2: gonna be this is this is this is the time.
Speaker 2: And now you have I'm gonna use different this I think.
Speaker 2: I no, that's something I want to Yeah. This is
Speaker 2: called the past. This is the past boundary. Condition let's
Speaker 2: up before the past boundary. I'm not going to go
Speaker 2: into the full details boundary. And here we had and
Speaker 2: here we have. This is the future boundary. And this
Speaker 2: is just pretend pretend you're an immortal god. You're an
Speaker 2: immortal god. This is this is you, This is Ashton. Nice. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is let me let me just you suppose you
Speaker 2: suppose you're suppose suppose you're an immortal you know what,
Speaker 2: you're like a Greek god. Well no, no, no, you're
Speaker 2: actually here, You're you're you're living. This is this is
Speaker 2: your this is this is Ashton. Ashton's worldline. Got it? Worldline?
Speaker 2: You know from the you've lived, you know from from
Speaker 2: the bad, Like this is pretty close with the big bang,
Speaker 2: gus a right down there, big bang. Okay, and yeah,
Speaker 2: and this is and this is like the end time,
Speaker 2: the end time. Sure, Actually this is called conformal time.
Speaker 2: So it's it's actually infinite clock time. And then there's
Speaker 2: a whole lot this has to depend. This is what
Speaker 2: I called hang on. This is what I'm actually called
Speaker 2: actually called h It's like it's similar to a penro
Speaker 2: what's called the Penrose diagram. Man, So this is actually
Speaker 2: conformal what's called conformal time. It's it's not the regular
Speaker 2: time for the clock. It's actually this is actually this
Speaker 2: is this is a finite it's it's actually infinite clock
Speaker 2: times what's called conformal infinity. Yet they're mathematics.
Speaker 1: This is year with the mathematics.
Speaker 2: But here, but here's the point. Here's the point. Here's
Speaker 2: the point. Suppose you're here, supposed this is now twenty
Speaker 2: twenty four, okay, twenty twenty four, you're getting you're getting well.
Speaker 2: Your mind by the way, the sidewaves just saying sidewaves,
Speaker 2: mind waves, mind waves. See that's the big thing. Well,
Speaker 2: you are when you are your soul, you're you're just
Speaker 2: a nurse. You're you're you're you're a pair of sidewaves.
Speaker 2: You're you have advanced and you have your destiny and history. Okay,
Speaker 2: and so information you're getting let's say I want to
Speaker 2: do it, I want to do this is your brain,
Speaker 2: your mind, your brains, so to speak. And this is
Speaker 2: you're getting information side history. Okay, but you're also getting information,
Speaker 2: you're also getting information from the future. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you there for sure.
Speaker 2: Side destiny, that's your destiny, your karma, karma if you want. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's the way it works. Okay.
Speaker 1: What does this mean thought to it being deterministic or not? Though, Like,
Speaker 1: are there more than one timeline or do you think
Speaker 1: there's just one timeline?
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, right down here, there's only one here, there's
Speaker 2: only one timeline. Right, one timeline. There's only one timeline.
Speaker 2: Let's what I haven't talked about the other possibilities. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's not that simple. You're jumping you know, you're making
Speaker 2: jumping ahead too quick and you know, and you're losing information.
Speaker 2: This is the situation. Okay, But then within a single
Speaker 2: this isn't your timeline, right, it's a timeline. It's your timeline.
Speaker 2: But really we only exist in my little little piece
Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, born right, okay, and it's observed it dependent.
Speaker 2: Now the point this is called the causal diamond. It's
Speaker 2: called the causal causal diamond. This is the observable universe. Observable, yeah, universe.
Speaker 2: This is assumed to be vacuum. And he's a light signals. See,
Speaker 2: he's also he's also traveled the speed of light. Light
Speaker 2: signals too, well, they're light signals. I'm almost simplifying a
Speaker 2: little bit. I'm assuming that the sideways also can travel
Speaker 2: light like light signals, maybe even electromic. Okay, it's too
Speaker 2: much fish. I can't really explain it properly.
Speaker 1: We don't need you to on here. I just want to.
Speaker 2: Look Okay, hang on, I'm just let's just change the color.
Speaker 2: Let's just change the color. He was h Okay, is Ashton?
Speaker 2: Ashton and I got super overlapping Jack. But we each
Speaker 2: have our own will. But the the the causal diamond
Speaker 2: diamond is observer dependent.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: So we have slight, but the beautify is so big
Speaker 2: that everybody can be the same one. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Observe it dependent, So we're creating our own universes that
Speaker 1: are then over we're in it.
Speaker 2: Well, well it's well, we're not creating it. Well yeah,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say we're creating. We're receiving it, so to speak.
Speaker 2: You know, we're being influenced. These are all like influences,
Speaker 2: external influences on us. Okay, Okay, now now this is
Speaker 2: all matter, This is all I classic, this is you know,
Speaker 2: this is matter. This is class this is the classical
Speaker 2: matter matter. But the sideways are like mind mental waves
Speaker 2: or mental signals. Okay, but now you can have say
Speaker 2: we have a bunch, you know right now, say we're
Speaker 2: in this causal diamond. Now there might be another causal
Speaker 2: diamond out here, right, this could be other dimensions. So
Speaker 2: that now this one they talk about other dimensions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: What does it mean? But there could be this could
Speaker 2: be an alien and this is us. Okay. Normally, normally
Speaker 2: they can and you know we're apart where there's no
Speaker 2: we're separated. However, with warp Sarafani, it's field be a
Speaker 2: little warp drive, warp wormhole. Oh, let's call it tick
Speaker 2: tack tack. Okay, so we can get from both that.
Speaker 2: So you know, this is what when David Grush and others,
Speaker 2: what does he know like the extra extra dimensionals? Yeah
Speaker 2: mean this See maybe he doesn't. I don't know think.
Speaker 2: I don't think he knows what he means. He's too Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's not. He doesn't know about physics, you know, somebody doesn't.
Speaker 2: He may have this in mind. I don't know. This
Speaker 2: is a possibility.
Speaker 1: So with this type of thing, do you think it's
Speaker 1: possible to have zero point energy? Do you believe in
Speaker 1: zero points?
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no's that's bullship. That's that's I mean, you're
Speaker 2: not asking a question that makes any sense. Your question? Okay,
Speaker 2: how do you say that? How moof Gang moof Gang
Speaker 2: Pali one of the father's farm. Okay, not not even wrong?
Speaker 2: Long You don't speak you don't speak the language capech.
Speaker 2: I mean you don't you know what your sentence, Your
Speaker 2: sentence is ill posed, Okay, for for for us scientists,
Speaker 2: for serious for serious people.
Speaker 1: A different way, I've looked at this paper between you
Speaker 1: and kind shoulders, where you talk about exotic vacuum objects
Speaker 1: and their.
Speaker 2: Ability to wait, wait, who shoulders?
Speaker 1: You and kind of shoulders from the exotic vacuum. No yeah, yeah, no, No.
Speaker 2: First of all, forget that paper. I actually didn't write it.
Speaker 2: He wrote it, and that was back. Yeah, the whole
Speaker 2: story Ken's shoulders. He was the experiment of that. He
Speaker 2: actually had some interesting things, but he didn't know any physics.
Speaker 2: I didn't actually write the paper. I never actually approved it,
Speaker 2: and I sort of letter he's the nice guys. I
Speaker 2: didn't say I'm not Vaca, I'm out of academia. Anyway.
Speaker 2: I didn't give a shit. But you know, if that's
Speaker 2: your source of information.
Speaker 1: I just did a little bit of research. I'm just curious.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, but it's a I haven't looked at
Speaker 2: that thing for like thirty years, twenty five years. Whatever
Speaker 2: he wrote. He's an interesting that's a whole story. He
Speaker 2: spent the whole hour about Ken shoulders. He was he
Speaker 2: was a spoof. He's cute. Do you ever see that
Speaker 2: he's one of these guys who made all these instruments
Speaker 2: from the CIA and you know all these secret you know,
Speaker 2: little tens that do this that you know, you mean,
Speaker 2: James Bond was a Q and yeah, yeah he was
Speaker 2: for the Americans. He was the American qu. Yeah, he
Speaker 2: do how put up and all these guys. He's an
Speaker 2: interesting guy, creative man. And he had his own he
Speaker 2: had his own auto gyr, had his own little private
Speaker 2: one man helicopter. They had all these turkeys and big
Speaker 2: turkey farm. And he's a real character etcentric, interesting that guy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, figure and ask a question. Trying to
Speaker 2: ask me another question, I'll see.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So my next one is going to be,
Speaker 1: do you think we can achieve superluminal speeds? Going back
Speaker 1: to what you were showing before with the David Grush stuff,
Speaker 1: in terms of how these tic TACs may operate? Do
Speaker 1: you think those are yes?
Speaker 2: And the answer is yes, The answer is yes, And
Speaker 2: there you have to go on vimeo Vimeo. Well maybe
Speaker 2: I can do it from here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he probably can.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait a second, Wait a second, Wait a second,
Speaker 2: wait a second, Let me go to let me go to.
Speaker 1: Uh so we're going to see your wole search history here.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's all right, So honey.
Speaker 1: He's got nothing to hide you.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, honey, that's what it comes up. Uh yeah,
Speaker 2: where's uh you have a lot of this thing?
Speaker 1: Are you looking to the one that I clipped the
Speaker 1: other day? With the head.
Speaker 2: You're no that that that yeah, no, that that's a
Speaker 2: good one. But that's the one that was good looking good,
Speaker 2: the one okay going.
Speaker 1: Hopefully, well, I'm not sure we're gonna be able to
Speaker 1: hear it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the one. Okay, So it says, okay, now,
Speaker 2: since you don't have a lot of patience, let me
Speaker 2: get to the part. Where is the part? Let me
Speaker 2: do I see? Am I able to just have a.
Speaker 1: Lot of questions for you. I want to make sure
Speaker 1: we get through as.
Speaker 4: He got tenser to the yeah, wait, wait, wait, let
Speaker 4: me answer, wait, let me contend, let me let me
Speaker 4: start metric system. And what it shows is that the
Speaker 4: ice story it's basically reciprocal of what you might call
Speaker 4: in string theory, the string tension, which is basically the
Speaker 4: reciprocal of the force in Newton's So string tension is
Speaker 4: like the space time stiffness of the fabric of I
Speaker 4: didn't really want to do that for the bending by energy.
Speaker 4: So these are just different ways of looking at this concept,
Speaker 4: which is helpful for physicists to conceive new ideas. This
Speaker 4: is the most important idea in all of Einstein's relativity theory.
Speaker 4: Both the special theory of nineteen oh five, which didn't
Speaker 4: have any gravity in it, and did nineteen fifteen theory
Speaker 4: of general relativity that incorporated the gravitational field using the
Speaker 4: equivalence principle of weightless warp drive and the action reaction principle.
Speaker 4: And so this is the light the basic light cone structure.
Speaker 4: It's an invariant all observers, no matter how they're moving,
Speaker 4: whether they're accelerating not accelerating. We'll see the invariant local
Speaker 4: light cone. This is a bedrock upon which the well.
Speaker 4: This is the cornerstone of the temple of Einstein's relativity theory.
Speaker 4: We have a picture from the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
Speaker 4: showing a four dimensional space time in which there is
Speaker 4: no gravity. It's totally flat in the four dimensional sense.
Speaker 4: And you think of the light cones like little arrows,
Speaker 4: little spins analogous to magnetic moments in a ferromagnet, or
Speaker 4: analogous to electric dipoles and Stuart hammer offs microtubules that
Speaker 4: might be the seed of our consciousness. And you see
Speaker 4: they're all lined up parallel. There's no relative tilt of
Speaker 4: neighboring light cones to each other. That means is zero curvature.
Speaker 4: This picture of curvature of space time as the tilting
Speaker 4: the relative tilting of light cones is due to Roger Penrose,
Speaker 4: who recently got a Nobel Prize along with Stephen Hawking
Speaker 4: for their work on black holes. So here we see
Speaker 4: again a key construct in the classic theory of relativity.
Speaker 4: I say classical because it omits quantum epr entanglement effects
Speaker 4: that changes the ball game. But we won't get into
Speaker 4: that now. That's a more advanced topic that in particular
Speaker 4: Roderick Sutherland down in Australia and his papers has shown
Speaker 4: how to extend this notion. But this is the notion
Speaker 4: of a retarded causation, which is also the basis of
Speaker 4: Bell's locality inequality, which is actually violated in quantum mechanics.
Speaker 4: So here what this only works in vacuum, and Alice
Speaker 4: is past like cone must intersect Bob's future like cone
Speaker 4: in order for Alice to see what Bob is doing
Speaker 4: using what are called transverse polarized far field electromagnetic signals.
Speaker 4: Einstein called them light rays, but it's more general than that. Now,
Speaker 4: this is what fast than light travel is not. This
Speaker 4: is what people tend to think it is where where
Speaker 4: the UFO is actually traveling outside the light cone. When
Speaker 4: it's outside the light cone, it's like at tachi on
Speaker 4: it's fast in light. But that's not what warp driver is.
Speaker 4: Warp drive is very different warp drivers motion without motion.
Speaker 4: It's the actual controlled tilting of light cones, of neighboring
Speaker 4: light cones, the relative tilting that is controlling the curvature
Speaker 4: field directly with small amounts of energy. That's the key,
Speaker 4: small amounts of energy. This again is a slide from
Speaker 4: the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on relativity, and it shows
Speaker 4: the formation of a black hole with the event horizon.
Speaker 4: I will not go into detail on that at this
Speaker 4: particular time, but just check out the Sanford Encyclopedia Philosophy.
Speaker 2: On light Cones. Here we have the extreme case of
Speaker 2: the correct way to think about fast and light warp drive,
Speaker 2: which may contradict. Actually, I'm not sure all the published
Speaker 2: papers by Alcubery and everyone else in Ontario, all of them,
Speaker 2: they may not understand this, but we'll see. Time will tell.
Speaker 2: And here what's happening. Alice is in fast and light
Speaker 2: warp drive relative to Bob and so what we see
Speaker 2: is that Alice's light cone is now tilted at ninety
Speaker 2: degrees to Bob's light cone. This is the extreme case.
Speaker 2: So light cones are perpendicular to each other, and therefore
Speaker 2: Alice is able to see what's in front of her
Speaker 2: future from retard as signals from the future light cone
Speaker 2: of Bob. This is unusual to see normally, Normally, Alice's
Speaker 2: past light cone must intersect Bob's future light cone. That's
Speaker 2: when there's no gravity, when there's no curvature at all,
Speaker 2: that's the way it is. But when you have warp
Speaker 2: drive in an extreme case, when it goes globally faster
Speaker 2: than light, even though locally it's not fast than light
Speaker 2: inside the light cone. But so when Alan now alice
Speaker 2: is red future light cone intersects Bob's red future light cone.
Speaker 2: And that's the situation. So you see, there is no
Speaker 2: event horizon the way some of the papers say there is.
Speaker 2: In other words, Alice is not blind at all. She
Speaker 2: can see what she can see Bob in front of her.
Speaker 2: So there we are. So Alice controls the orientation of
Speaker 2: her UFO's local light cone relative to the cosmological hubble
Speaker 2: flow with small amounts of energy using the effect I
Speaker 2: first revealed at the darker NASA one hundred Years Starship
Speaker 2: or end of October twenty eleven meeting. So here I
Speaker 2: have a picture of what I was talking about before,
Speaker 2: hopefully a little bit clearer. And you can see that
Speaker 2: Alice departs the Earth and say goes to Mars very quickly.
Speaker 2: And one can see in the middle of the flight
Speaker 2: there that Alice at position A sees C position C
Speaker 2: ahead of her, because the retarded light ray from C
Speaker 2: reaches Alice at A. That is because again Alice's future
Speaker 2: light cone intersex Bob's at see his future like cones.
Speaker 2: So when the two future light cones intersect, then there
Speaker 2: is no more event horizon in the sense that Alqubery
Speaker 2: and others have said there is. I think they're just mistaken.
Speaker 2: They just made a mistake about that. I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: We'll find out. Time will tell. And here we have
Speaker 2: what I've been getting to. Here we have time travel
Speaker 2: back from the future, and we don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about Stephen Hawkings chronology protection conjecture, because this is not
Speaker 2: really a closed timelike curve. It's a close time like curve.
Speaker 2: Is like a short circuit. But this here, you see,
Speaker 2: it's an open circuit. We haven't short it out, so
Speaker 2: there's no catastrophe at all. And I think this is
Speaker 2: not just a theory. This is an explanation of observations.
Speaker 2: See all the weird observations of the flying sources from
Speaker 2: time immemorial for thousands of years can easily be understood
Speaker 2: on the basis of this picture. This is I think
Speaker 2: a real conceptual breakthrough, which none of my colleagues, well
Speaker 2: maybe a few of them. Now maybe jose Rodell understands that.
Speaker 2: Maybe a few, but none of none of the big
Speaker 2: the top guns, I think understand what I'm suggesting here.
Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong. Well we shall see.
Speaker 1: Okay, there we go, so real quick, I have to
Speaker 1: use the restroom. But can you explain to the audience
Speaker 1: while I go what time dilation is and what your
Speaker 1: thoughts are on that?
Speaker 2: And I'll be O, no, yeah, yeah, no, I'm not
Speaker 2: going to explain. You don't want it's a seliment. This
Speaker 2: is like physics element, this is high school physics.
Speaker 1: Well, the reason why I asked is because I want
Speaker 1: to know if there's an impact of time dilation on
Speaker 1: the video that you just saw. If that can help
Speaker 1: explain whether there's no paradox or if you think that
Speaker 1: we don't need that because time might be deterministic in
Speaker 1: the sense that if we went back.
Speaker 2: And no, no, you know what your question makes absolutely no,
Speaker 2: it's like a listening to a schizophratic talk work. It
Speaker 2: makes no sense to me. I don't it makes us
Speaker 2: The whole point about warp drive. If you understood altar,
Speaker 2: there's no time dilation, but you can make it. So
Speaker 2: there's time dilation. You can make the time. But in
Speaker 2: the in the what's called geodesic warp drive, the internal
Speaker 2: clock of the crew inside the ship remains synchronized with
Speaker 2: the clocks outside the ship.
Speaker 1: Okay, so uh, without a paradox, then I guess is
Speaker 1: the question why is there a paradox? Well, if the time,
Speaker 1: if the clocks stay in sync, we don't have a
Speaker 1: time dilation effect. As I approached the speed of light,
Speaker 1: then isn't there going to be a situation?
Speaker 2: Right? Because you don't understand because you don't understand ship.
Speaker 2: You understood nothing what I said. Because you're thinking like
Speaker 2: Elon Musk. You think is that there's a ship that's
Speaker 2: going through space. It's not the ship is not moving
Speaker 2: through space. It's not special relativity. It's generative. And the
Speaker 2: problem is that most of you humans just not You're
Speaker 2: just too stupid to get it. I think I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: You know I'm half alien? Yeah, yeah, yeah, my life.
Speaker 2: What I mean by like, by the way, uh C,
Speaker 2: I a John Ramirez and Gary Dolan's got tyler all
Speaker 2: of us working. Most of us are hybrids. You know.
Speaker 2: Gary Dolan said he's discovered that there's an extra brain
Speaker 2: structure in all the experiences, all the contacts. You know
Speaker 2: about that, right, you know about that?
Speaker 1: Uh no, tell us about that? While go back through
Speaker 1: my beer back?
Speaker 2: All right, well you should get Gary up. What but okay,
Speaker 2: we'll take the fee to take a break. O.
Speaker 1: Kah mhm h what's that? What's that?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: What's that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Okay? Are we? Uh? What have we got going
Speaker 1: on here? Chat? Did we we took we took a
Speaker 1: copy break?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Just a minute. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: I can hear you.
Speaker 2: Oh you can hear me?
Speaker 1: Really, you yourself, We're gonna let me listen.
Speaker 2: It's the blue tooth. The blue the blue tooth reaches
Speaker 2: over to the toilet. Listen, then I'm walking back. Make
Speaker 2: sure my pants, make sure I look decent here just
Speaker 2: a minute, see if the chat could hear you? That's
Speaker 2: all right? Here? Did you hear that?
Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I can't tell it from the chat.
Speaker 1: That sounds like maybe they didn't in said anything.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, wait, we just got to put this on probably.
Speaker 1: A little intermission there.
Speaker 2: That was good, little a little and know we had
Speaker 2: and we had some emissions too. How about mission all right?
Speaker 2: So where where were we at now?
Speaker 1: How about stop sharing for just a second. We can
Speaker 1: just have a conversation and then if we need to
Speaker 1: go back to the whiteboard.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, so how do I do that?
Speaker 1: Should be at the top to shop?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, stop sharing all right?
Speaker 1: Okay, because I want to get some I want to
Speaker 1: get your opinion on a few more people. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna throw some names out there. Oh wait, we've got
Speaker 1: double jacks are fighting and let me remove this person. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you gave away the give it the zoom
Speaker 1: to a few too many people. Okay, So what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Thomas Bearden and scaler physics in general?
Speaker 1: Do you think that that's a way to achieve gravity
Speaker 1: manipulation with zero.
Speaker 2: Electronic It's total crap. My blood pressure because he's an idiot.
Speaker 2: He doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. He
Speaker 2: was a spook, he's a crack pod. Okay, nothing to it.
Speaker 1: Okay. How about Thomas Toutson Brown? What do you think
Speaker 1: about him? Do you ever get to meet him?
Speaker 2: No? More bullshit, more bullshit?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: What about?
Speaker 1: What about Salvator Paiez who has a super force theory.
Speaker 1: It seems very similar to yours.
Speaker 2: Crap, another crack pond incompetent.
Speaker 1: Okay, uh? And what about uh? Actually that's all I
Speaker 1: have for names. How about the idea of super conductivity?
Speaker 1: Do you think LK ninety nine you follow that at
Speaker 1: all this last summer? Or I think there was an
Speaker 1: American Physical Society thing? What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2: Why? Shy, I don't have anything.
Speaker 1: Do you think that people have tried to debunk in
Speaker 1: and say it's not really super conductive?
Speaker 2: Why you ask me such a stupid question? A stupid
Speaker 2: question asked me. I'm not working. I don't know if
Speaker 2: i'd love it to be true.
Speaker 1: And that's my next question, because so I guess the
Speaker 1: better question, smarter question is I've seen you say that
Speaker 1: you think that meta materials can achieve super conductivity through
Speaker 1: potentially precise crystal lattice structures. What why is that important
Speaker 1: for anti gravity or whatever you want to call it
Speaker 1: anti gravity?
Speaker 2: That's a better question. That's a better question. It's room temperature. Yep, Okay,
Speaker 2: now I have to go back.
Speaker 1: Oh we gotta go back to the white more. Do
Speaker 1: you want to get it back up?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And while you do that, do you think that AI
Speaker 1: can help us find those types of meta materials?
Speaker 2: Of course? Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Do you think we'll see gravity control and next twenty years?
Speaker 1: Twenty five years? Do you think we already have it?
Speaker 2: Now you're asking kind of a dumb question. We're seeing
Speaker 2: it all the time after bufos?
Speaker 1: Okay, but those are asking, right, Some of them we
Speaker 1: don't know, some of.
Speaker 2: Them are yeah, not all of them. Let's see what
Speaker 2: happened then you've seen yeah, Okay, are we seeing my stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, we're seeing.
Speaker 2: Okay, So all right, so oh wait, all right, so
Speaker 2: all right, so what are you asking now? Ask the
Speaker 2: question again? Yeah?
Speaker 1: So I think we were talking about super conductivity and
Speaker 1: why it's important room temperature superconnectivity. Why is important for
Speaker 1: gravity manipulation?
Speaker 2: Okay, first of all, superconductors.
Speaker 1: For the chat, those are semic conductors with zero electrical resistance.
Speaker 1: They can produce the Measoner effects.
Speaker 2: And if they yeah yeah, if they don't even know
Speaker 2: what a super inductor is, they shouldn't even be watching.
Speaker 1: The case.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but okay, that they are thermal thermodynamic dam equilibrium
Speaker 2: librium what are called closed systems. In other words, this
Speaker 2: is the environment, this is the super inductor. This is yeah,
Speaker 2: the therma insulating war in other words, you cool it down.
Speaker 2: It's has been you know, temperatures, temperature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in order to get the cooper pairs to form.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, very low temperature, right music they yeah, mirror
Speaker 2: like a mirror, mirror, a mirror, yeah yeah yeah, A
Speaker 2: pump yeah, photons, pump photons come here. You haven't adams
Speaker 2: h like two level atoms. The pump photons come in
Speaker 2: and they excite the atoms into excited states and then
Speaker 2: and then it's right, then the you know, there's a
Speaker 2: decay aka the excited state and outcomes coherent coherent matter
Speaker 2: laser photons your laser beam, right, mhm. In an open system,
Speaker 2: not an equilibrium, non equilibrium kah. Now after supereductor, superconductor
Speaker 2: has a giant yeah, giant wave function wave function. We'll
Speaker 2: hear it inside. You know, the Cooper pairs. Cooper pairs
Speaker 2: are all what's called the boss. So like, what's a
Speaker 2: Bose Einstein condensate because laser sam here, but there's like
Speaker 2: a giant wave function there, kh oh in Alayser is
Speaker 2: exactly equal? Will be well, it's neutral, so be a
Speaker 2: super a laser is a non equilibrium equilibrium the uh
Speaker 2: superfluid like helium superfluid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the laser the photons onto.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wave like john equilibrium okay, yeah, general meta
Speaker 2: material yeah, the you know you have the the meta
Speaker 2: artificial atoms artificial official meta atoms mm hm, metsa atoms.
Speaker 1: There structure here.
Speaker 2: Then yeah, let's think of about something quantum dots. Look
Speaker 2: at look at quantum dots. It's a good example for
Speaker 2: example quant dots. Okay, mhm, but they have you have
Speaker 2: you have pump hm, some photons coming in chelaser and
Speaker 2: what happens is, okay, here's a photon photon and here
Speaker 2: is a meta atom and it's actually a bunch of
Speaker 2: and there are a bunch of meta and the meta
Speaker 2: atoms are interacting with each other. Okay, a meta atoms,
Speaker 2: any any many particles, systems, any many particle system forms,
Speaker 2: emergent emergent what are called quasi particles, the particles and
Speaker 2: also collective mode, collective modes. Well, so you look at
Speaker 2: the entire look up normal loads, normal loads of oscillation,
Speaker 2: loads of oscillation. Okay, so now it's like a laser
Speaker 2: open system. Alright, look a lasers. Now what happens? So say,
Speaker 2: here's a this is the fuselage minim meta material. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you have an energy store, some kind of pump,
Speaker 2: photons and right here the pump, the photon, the photon
Speaker 2: here it interacts with these, It interacts with these better
Speaker 2: adds that it forms. Let me use a different notes color.
Speaker 2: Hang on, h So these little wiggles, those are let's
Speaker 2: call them the quasi particles, the quasi particles. Okay, uh,
Speaker 2: Now like photons, they mixed their hybrids, hybrid some photons
Speaker 2: photons with with the better adams. Yeah, what were we
Speaker 2: configue up there? Like the things like pulatons like fullara
Speaker 2: times pollitons, like they're like photons photons plus electric dipoles,
Speaker 2: electric dipoles. The meta atom, the meta atom is electric dipoles.
Speaker 2: By the way, we are a microtubules. You know our
Speaker 2: bodies micro tubules. We are meta material. We are meta material.
Speaker 2: That's a material. In fact, all living matter h is
Speaker 2: meta material. Then we're artificial artificial not official right where where?
Speaker 2: Or yeah, yeah we're yeah, we're we are organic organic,
Speaker 2: organic molecular right and you can think of it thinking
Speaker 2: the Michael tubules are our our like roll roll meta surfaces.
Speaker 2: If you go to hammer up, you go to Steward
Speaker 2: hammer off. H.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might have to just for brevity, we might
Speaker 1: have to skip the whiteboard here because I think that
Speaker 1: you could just we can just say some of this
Speaker 1: here in general.
Speaker 2: No, no, really no I can't. I don't want to
Speaker 2: skip organizes. My mind is my mind. I think visually.
Speaker 2: I don't think of audio. And you know people have
Speaker 2: weak minds. They you know, this is not for everybody.
Speaker 2: This is only the best and the brightest, the best,
Speaker 2: the brightest with strong minds. But like the Marines, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, we don't want to know. No
Speaker 2: more weak pukes, No more weak pukes. No, no, no, snowflakes, flakes.
Speaker 2: This is not a space, not a safe space.
Speaker 1: Definitely not This is definitely not a space. This we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on.
Speaker 1: Okay, So back to super connectivity though, we are trying
Speaker 1: to get what the nature of it related gravity is.
Speaker 1: So let's let's focus.
Speaker 2: On that dead there. But you can't get there too
Speaker 2: fast or you don't have ship you get there too fast.
Speaker 2: You're like, Hi, you got towns in brown.
Speaker 3: With Savage. That would be a great conversation. I feel
Speaker 3: like you, guys, No, it wouldn't. I wouldn't waste my
Speaker 3: time because you know what, E's actually a very nice man.
Speaker 3: I see it was a nice Italian man, nice guy.
Speaker 3: And I don't want to destroy him personally because I
Speaker 3: just destroy him, you think, so, I think absolutely no,
Speaker 3: absolutely no.
Speaker 2: I'm a fucking PhD in direco physics strained by Hanspeder
Speaker 2: and he's just some kind of low level degree.
Speaker 1: I think he's got all though.
Speaker 2: Actually, if I'm where, I have to look it up
Speaker 2: and see.
Speaker 1: What you're going.
Speaker 2: You keep going though, Yeah no, yeah, but one of
Speaker 2: his back I'm curious now what is his what is
Speaker 2: his educational background?
Speaker 1: Okay, so we're going to do the site. So yeah,
Speaker 1: so he has his PhD and Mechanical and Aerospace engineering
Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine another subject of bubble generation or
Speaker 1: reduced gravity conditions for both co flow and crosslow configurations.
Speaker 1: Uh it was from case Western Reserve.
Speaker 2: Okay, but not a venue. But you know what, none
Speaker 2: of what he learned is relevant to the pusiness not
Speaker 2: He's not a theoretical that gravity he was doing was
Speaker 2: observational stuff on Newtony and gravity had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with general relativity. He doesn't understand it.
Speaker 1: His equations are pretty similar to yours, I thought, but
Speaker 1: go ahead.
Speaker 2: No they're not because you're an asshole muck who doesn't
Speaker 2: know what the fucking saying. There's no idea but like mine.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, there's no comparison. You don't know anything. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you're totally ignorant. The academia works a different special what
Speaker 2: physics is different specializations. He's an engineer. He did not
Speaker 2: take the kinds of course as I took. And he
Speaker 2: doesn't know what I know, and I don't know what
Speaker 2: he knows. By the way, this is science is big,
Speaker 2: it's very special he's specialized. I'm sure he knows, you know,
Speaker 2: his narrow field of mechanical engineering in a certain things
Speaker 2: he knows which I would not pretend to know. Well,
Speaker 2: so he doesn't know what I know. He's not qualified. Okay, Wait,
Speaker 2: it's like he is. Like with doctors. There's a guy
Speaker 2: saying who fixes broken bones, and he's and there's a
Speaker 2: brain surgery a guy who fixes your broken bone. You
Speaker 2: don't want him to operate on your brain. They're two
Speaker 2: separate things. They're bunt doctors, okay, and in their respective fields,
Speaker 2: and they respect same thing here, he's not qualified in
Speaker 2: this field. What he says has no weight. In fact,
Speaker 2: that's wrong period.
Speaker 1: Respectfully.
Speaker 2: There was and it was a scandal that the Navy
Speaker 2: is incompetent to people around him in the fucking Navy.
Speaker 2: They should be fired.
Speaker 1: Do you think so? Don't you like? My opinion is
Speaker 1: that he's actually like seen some UFOs personally. Otherwise how
Speaker 1: would he come up?
Speaker 2: Oh, well, that's stupid. I'm not talking about I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about that. I'm talking about the patents. They wasted
Speaker 2: money on patents than any good things. This right away.
Speaker 2: Everybody knows it. Look bullshit, I'm not the only one.
Speaker 2: It's the consensus of a competent people.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll see.
Speaker 2: He's a nice man. I don't want to be, you know,
Speaker 2: nice man personally. Nothing handsome personally.
Speaker 1: So you think those patents though, are what do they
Speaker 1: call limited hangout? Is that what they call it? Where
Speaker 1: it's like you think it's.
Speaker 2: No, that's just that that that the people are stupid
Speaker 2: people in the patent of it's a stupid the people
Speaker 2: the Navy is stupid by it's just stupid, and it's
Speaker 2: just the Triumph is stupid. Well, an idiotocracy living in
Speaker 2: a very stupid society right now. And it's because because
Speaker 2: everything's been dumbed down with a bad education for threeople
Speaker 2: for generations, and and that's why the United States is
Speaker 2: going down. We're going under. I'm going under because because
Speaker 2: compared to other countries, we have a lot of stupid
Speaker 2: people running things. And then we get into that. So
Speaker 2: let's get back.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the super conductivity here, so a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the meta material, let me let let's go
Speaker 2: back a lot of people. That's okay. So so here's
Speaker 2: the UFO. This is a meta material, meta material.
Speaker 1: You think that's bismuth magnesium zinc potentially as a meta material,
Speaker 1: and they talk.
Speaker 2: About I don't know if I don't, I don't know that.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: Don't ask me. It's stupid. Okay, we don't know what.
Speaker 2: You know what, there's a whole other thing we have
Speaker 2: to get retrieved material from the UFO. Well, that's a
Speaker 2: whole other story about it. I don't I'm not. I'm
Speaker 2: not ask Gary Nolan or ask Larry Limp. I'm not,
Speaker 2: you know, doing the research on the business. I have
Speaker 2: my doubts about it. But yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't have to know that. That's not the way, that's
Speaker 2: not the level I operate on. That's not what physics is.
Speaker 2: What theoretical does like me do. Okay, Now, now the
Speaker 2: point is the point is I'm most say saying, okay,
Speaker 2: So the point is there's some energy sauce in here.
Speaker 2: There's an energy source, like an energy source, you know,
Speaker 2: it's a pump, pump. Okay, it's an energy sauce, and
Speaker 2: that energy source is activating. Yeah, so it's forming a
Speaker 2: what's called the room temperature temperature for sure, Let's call
Speaker 2: it like a yeah, uh, let's call it let's call
Speaker 2: it a h macro quantum coherent for heerent uh. They
Speaker 2: call it it's technical then order parameter, order parameter. You
Speaker 2: can think of it's a giant. It's like a giant
Speaker 2: wave function, like a giant.
Speaker 1: Like a matter wave, coherent matter wave maybe.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of of these of these quasi particles.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lucky Martin is actually patent for a coherent matter wave.
Speaker 1: Being pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that. Don't don't bring in extremely
Speaker 2: quasi particles. It may maybe simply related, it may not be.
Speaker 2: I have to see it, all right. So now once
Speaker 2: you have that, once you have let's say this is
Speaker 2: ci this giant wave function, just like a superconductor, but
Speaker 2: it's a room temperature. I can say it's the squarit
Speaker 2: of n E to the I data. This is what's
Speaker 2: called this is a complex function, complex number. This what's
Speaker 2: called the polar polar representation sentation. They can't of a
Speaker 2: complex of a complex number like it. Here's a complex
Speaker 2: plane and this is this is the n and this
Speaker 2: is like data. This is the this is what called
Speaker 2: the real part of z of coal on the side.
Speaker 2: This is a real sign. There's the imaginary sign, and
Speaker 2: that's what this is. Now, this is a giant thing.
Speaker 2: This n is very big. It could be like like
Speaker 2: ten to the twenty three something like that number. This
Speaker 2: is like the number of This is the number of
Speaker 2: meta material closet particles in the same single particle quantum
Speaker 2: state like Mozaritstein Chandos say, Okay, now you look at
Speaker 2: that material that does that material has a resonance, has
Speaker 2: a residence. Okay, now we get into the nitty gritty here.
Speaker 2: That residence is. There's something called i'll call it a bar.
Speaker 2: This is called the electrical firmativity. Mm hmm. It's like
Speaker 2: like dielectric so roughly speeding light. It's similar to dielectric constant,
Speaker 2: but it's a pure number. It's what's called the relative constant. Okay,
Speaker 2: e r the e of e zero. This is the
Speaker 2: vacuum vacuum where square c squared is one of the
Speaker 2: e zero U zero is three times tens of the
Speaker 2: eight meters or second in vacuum, in what's called in vacuum.
Speaker 2: In vacuum, okay, but the speed of light, the speed
Speaker 2: of light and in matter is different in matter, and
Speaker 2: it's called c prime squad is u c squared times
Speaker 2: epsilon Are you are? Is that? Okay? It's different. And
Speaker 2: if you want this, uh the square root of epsilon
Speaker 2: R view, I'm only doing a E R here and
Speaker 2: square to that. That's called the that's sort of the
Speaker 2: index of refraction, index of refraction. This is all standard physics. Okay,
Speaker 2: go back. So now, so e R E R is
Speaker 2: one minus omega p squared over omega zero squad minus
Speaker 2: omega squid plus i gamma omega. This is a residence formula.
Speaker 2: This is called This is called omega P. It is
Speaker 2: called the plasma frequency plasma frequency, and omega zero is
Speaker 2: the resonance frequency MH this frequency of the of like
Speaker 2: the meta Adams from the meta Adams, thet'll say roughly,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm always a point of it. And omega is
Speaker 2: the pump external pump frequency. This looks at this, if
Speaker 2: you plot this, this looks like it's like a residence.
Speaker 2: This is frequency, and this is her and here this omegas.
Speaker 2: That's the residence. And this is gamma. The width the
Speaker 2: within the wid okay, the width of the residents spectroscopy,
Speaker 2: you know. Okay, so that's the actual math, k H.
Speaker 2: Now what you do that's good. Look at e R
Speaker 2: at the residence, at the resident frequency. And if you
Speaker 2: do that, that's sequel to one minus omega the squared
Speaker 2: the omega zero the first time. You just have I
Speaker 2: I gamma omega zero. Okay, and I can write that
Speaker 2: is I could write that, well, I I squared is
Speaker 2: equal to minus one. Imagine, imagine the unit and because
Speaker 2: plus I, it's this is it's a complex number. Okay.
Speaker 2: But but here's the trick. Gamma gamma is with with
Speaker 2: the residents half within that's gamma gamma. It turns out
Speaker 2: is one over tow roughly uh h square root uh
Speaker 2: uh and yeah, squiritive that's caama. Now this comes from
Speaker 2: this is derived from Heisenberg's Heisenberg Isenberg's certainty principle principle.
Speaker 2: But for what's called number of number and delta data.
Speaker 2: This phase, this is the phase of the coherent way.
Speaker 2: Now where where we're side is the squirtiven into the
Speaker 2: eye data. That's his status. Quinn got a piece of
Speaker 2: apple stuck in my thumb. Newton's revenge. I started eating
Speaker 2: Newton's apple. Okay, now let's go. So now we are
Speaker 2: at residence. See if the one plus i or megapiece
Speaker 2: squared the resident frequency times now, but that gamma, that
Speaker 2: gamma turns out to be cow squirreed event. See that
Speaker 2: squared event because it was in the denominator. This is
Speaker 2: algebra now squared event. So so we are it's proportional
Speaker 2: to the squairre it event. But the square event is
Speaker 2: gonna get very big and in the condest it could
Speaker 2: be it could be you know, like ten to the
Speaker 2: third something, It could be very big. So so basically,
Speaker 2: so what is he are e r so the the
Speaker 2: the the with gamma it's like one over the squirre man,
Speaker 2: but the height is scaling as in that's the trick M.
Speaker 2: That is, let us all fati as this comment. Boys,
Speaker 2: the Russians noticed the Russians, you know, Poot sent his
Speaker 2: guys over the interview me when Obama was present. They
Speaker 2: came over twice, so the Russians know all the ship.
Speaker 2: In fact, after they invited me to Moscow, asked you
Speaker 2: why I didn't go. So you your earlier question of
Speaker 2: the Russians ahead, They probably are because they have smarter
Speaker 2: people than we do. All right, so let's go on.
Speaker 1: So is the trick here that the super conductivity due
Speaker 1: to the ample of this nature of the raider and
Speaker 1: increasing here is that this is the secret sauce, especially essentially.
Speaker 2: For this is it. This is it, This is it.
Speaker 2: But most people be too stupid to even understand anything
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So that's why I'm talking to a bunch
Speaker 2: of apes at the monolith. All right, this is the
Speaker 2: way it works, understood, all right, So now Einstein's field
Speaker 2: equation in a simple time, I'm over simplifying Einstein's field
Speaker 2: equation nineteen fifteen. There's a pie g of a seat
Speaker 2: of the poor team. You knew, But that's the vacuum.
Speaker 2: They made a mistake. But all the all the kings
Speaker 2: men in the sand. It shouldn't be the vacuum should
Speaker 2: be what's inside the material there? Why should this is?
Speaker 2: This is inside the material? So why you use the
Speaker 2: speed of light and vacuum wh there's no material? You see,
Speaker 2: The whole thing is stupid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the speed of light's not constant, as I were saying,
Speaker 1: due to the pervctivity of the element the element itself.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so, and you know it's it's a little
Speaker 2: more complicated. I'm over simplifying a lot.
Speaker 1: I appreciate.
Speaker 2: There are all kinds of there are all kinds of
Speaker 2: problems about what's covariance and variance and ten get you know.
Speaker 1: We can yeah, yeah, just you know, simplified.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Now look this number eight pi g a receipt
Speaker 2: of the four This vacuum that's equal to two times
Speaker 2: ten to the minus forty three Newton's Newton's to the
Speaker 2: minus one reciprocal Newtons new there's a unit of force
Speaker 2: in ks where this is the gravity. This is gravity,
Speaker 2: and that's measured in one over meters square. Mm hmm,
Speaker 2: that's curvature. Meet a square one over areas. Okay, but
Speaker 2: now we stick in now but the s but okay,
Speaker 2: let's go here. One oversea to the fourth goes as
Speaker 2: epsilon are me are square goes to the square. I've forgotten.
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting about the v R because that's yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to make it as simple as possible. The vu
Speaker 2: R is the magnetic that said, with the magnetic permeability,
Speaker 2: I'm only talking about that the electric dielectrical part. You know,
Speaker 2: just keep it as you know, just as simple as
Speaker 2: possible without it being simpler than is possible. So now,
Speaker 2: so what we have is that GMI you knew is
Speaker 2: two times ten to the minus forty three times. This
Speaker 2: thing is uh is n and then what I have, Uh,
Speaker 2: let's say I had an omega. Uh, I'll make it
Speaker 2: to the fourth omega zero squared, and then I have
Speaker 2: a towel a town squared times team you knew, team
Speaker 2: you knew. Okay, this is what's called. This is a
Speaker 2: stress energy tense. This is like from the pump, the
Speaker 2: electromagnetic pump. HM. You could say, okay, this is the
Speaker 2: residence now and uh, this end and could be like
Speaker 2: and could be like saying what tends to the what
Speaker 2: do we want? Let's let's say that and says like
Speaker 2: tens of the something number anything ten to the forty
Speaker 2: why can't be? Why not? Why not? And then yeah,
Speaker 2: this could be big too. Now normally w p of
Speaker 2: a w normally this is uh less than one what's
Speaker 2: called fifield. But what's called the near field, which is
Speaker 2: all we're interesting in the near field, this could be
Speaker 2: pretty big also, but we you know, so, so the
Speaker 2: point is this, this is this so this this strength
Speaker 2: and so this is this is the this is the secret.
Speaker 2: So we're able So what this means is we can
Speaker 2: make a desire. We we've desired gmu new Field, you know,
Speaker 2: in order to say we want to cancel the irth's gravity.
Speaker 2: So both have a UFO. It's hovering. It's hovering right.
Speaker 2: Here's he's standing under it. This is Travis Taylor Tailor,
Speaker 2: this is skin Walker Ranch and I forgot to show
Speaker 2: that you could also make You can make it anti
Speaker 2: gravity because it's a fad that I in there because
Speaker 2: of the eye that's in there, Because because because because
Speaker 2: SI goes as the square of them and each of
Speaker 2: the eye theata. By playing with this parameter, I can
Speaker 2: change the effective sign of the gravity from attractive to repulsive. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's it's like getting negative mass without negative mass. See,
Speaker 2: there's all kinds of stuff. This thing is so beautiful.
Speaker 2: These everybody that does so why do I get pissed up?
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about idiots, Paiez. You know,
Speaker 2: thousand they're monkeys. You understand they're monkeys playing a typewriter. Then,
Speaker 2: but they're the ape set the monolith in space Odyssey.
Speaker 2: You know, can I think around? They don't know, they
Speaker 2: don't know what to look for. This is the real
Speaker 2: theoretical physics of Albert Einstein has taught to me by
Speaker 2: people like Hans Beta, Richard Bindman. You're the top guys,
Speaker 2: not the mechanical engineers, you know, fixing the toilets at
Speaker 2: Case Western Reserve University. Youn say what I'm saying here?
Speaker 2: This a simple Now it turns out, it turns out
Speaker 2: that any top theoretical physicists students at cal Tech at
Speaker 2: MIT at least about years ago, I know how it
Speaker 2: is now at Harvard, you know, before they before the
Speaker 2: woken assholes took everything over, they could have been you know,
Speaker 2: if I they could be having a PhD oral exam
Speaker 2: and I could be the examining professor, and I tell
Speaker 2: them give certain hints, and I say, telling me how
Speaker 2: to solve the problem, and they should be able to
Speaker 2: solve this problem because it's very elementary. It's not hard.
Speaker 2: It's easy. It's an easy problem, not a hard problem.
Speaker 2: Is that because people are so stupid and don't know
Speaker 2: basic physics that they think it's a hard problem. So
Speaker 2: anybody tells you that they don't, that we don't understand
Speaker 2: the technology, it's a million thousands in the future. That
Speaker 2: guy is an idiot. Or he's lying deliberately lying. Okay,
Speaker 2: so that guy, Okay, so that's it. They are faked.
Speaker 2: They are false prophets. They don't know what the fuck
Speaker 2: they're talking about, what they do. They're misleading you deliberately,
Speaker 2: but generally they're just stupid smucks. They don't know, you know,
Speaker 2: they don't know their ship from Shain all about this.
Speaker 2: See so there it is, so now yeah, so there, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: so that's let's just say so the idea is you
Speaker 2: have a desired gem you knew, and it's equal to
Speaker 2: two times ten to the minus forty three times this,
Speaker 2: this end times this other ship and team you knew,
Speaker 2: so you keep this fixed. This is something you desire
Speaker 2: to cancel your its gravity. I can I can show
Speaker 2: you how to calculate it, but that's already doing too much.
Speaker 2: We use what's called the divergence there divergence theorem. In
Speaker 2: a special case, use the Burgess theorem, and you can
Speaker 2: calculate the G field the G field, and you make
Speaker 2: it anti gravity. You can cancel out the Earth's field.
Speaker 2: You cancel out the Earth's field by by choosing and
Speaker 2: and FDA. There's there's actually a fada you know hidden
Speaker 2: in there you could by by making end big enough
Speaker 2: and choosing theta just right, you can reverse the sign
Speaker 2: so it becomes anti gravity. Okay, for small this is
Speaker 2: the energy input for small as this as this coefficient
Speaker 2: gets big, this is fixed. This gets small. Understand that's
Speaker 2: what the idea is. You want to make this coupling
Speaker 2: big enough and this small enough so you could do
Speaker 2: it simply. And the point is, we know we see
Speaker 2: these things flying around. They have this technology to do it.
Speaker 1: It done.
Speaker 2: This exists. This is operation Okay, this is but this
Speaker 2: is how it works. This is how it works. Now.
Speaker 2: The problem is back to Travis Taylor and the guys
Speaker 2: at skin Walk. They got sick because when it's anti gravity,
Speaker 2: when it's hommering in other words, when there's the okay,
Speaker 2: so there is the Earth's gravity. This is the earth gravity, right,
Speaker 2: and then there's the ship makes anti gravity. There's the
Speaker 2: UFO and the anti gravity minus G. To cancel it.
Speaker 2: We want to cancel it. Right, So now you're with me.
Speaker 2: Do you see what I just did, ranking the G
Speaker 2: and ranking the G to cancel the blue G cancels
Speaker 2: the red G. But this makes this makes a blue
Speaker 2: shift that's a blue shift. Ye, a blue shift. What's
Speaker 2: sudden noise? That's ionizing radiation? Ionizing radiation. You got radiation sickness.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like being in a nuclear explosion underneath
Speaker 2: these things.
Speaker 1: It's gonna make is that? Is that yours?
Speaker 2: It's not me?
Speaker 1: So we only have a few more minutes, so I
Speaker 1: appreciate you going through this. Do you want to take
Speaker 1: a quick look at some videos that I've got that
Speaker 1: may show this effect. I want to get your opinion
Speaker 1: if that's okay?
Speaker 2: All right, okay, okay, And then.
Speaker 1: I got to drop because I do have another engagement.
Speaker 1: But I've appreciated this time. This has been awesome. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ahead and share my my screen here real quick,
Speaker 1: and let's take a look at these videos here.
Speaker 2: Okay, wait a minute, dude, let me see what?
Speaker 1: Can you see it?
Speaker 2: Wait a minute? Let me go down my other laptop.
Speaker 2: Heng on, Well go ahead, I'm well make it bigger.
Speaker 2: I don't make it bigger?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you can see it? Can you make it bigger?
Speaker 2: Let me see?
Speaker 1: Oh I just crash it.
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go.
Speaker 1: How's that? Can you see it? I lost you? Now
Speaker 1: you're muted. I can't hear you. So now you muted yourself,
Speaker 1: I think we can't hear Jack. It's like the chat
Speaker 1: says as well says your timer is bleeping. I can't
Speaker 1: hear you. I'm gonna play the video even though I
Speaker 1: can't hear you though. Yeah, I'm just gonna play it, okay.
Speaker 1: So I just wanted to show you this. Even if
Speaker 1: you can't hear me, or you can probably hear me,
Speaker 1: I just can't hear you. So the reason why I
Speaker 1: will show you this is the videos that I've been
Speaker 1: talking about. I'm not gonna go into all of them,
Speaker 1: but to what you just said with the anti gravitational aspects,
Speaker 1: this is why I want to talk to you because
Speaker 1: when we're looking at these orbs come in, I think
Speaker 1: that we're looking at that type of anti gravitational effect.
Speaker 1: I actually think there's two anti gravitational effects happening here.
Speaker 1: The one is that they're displaced from space time and
Speaker 1: then you see them do this pattern where it seems
Speaker 1: like this pattern has some purpose, which I would wonder
Speaker 1: if this is ER equals EPR at maybe at Einstein Rosenbridge.
Speaker 1: I can't hear you at all. By the way, Jack, doctor,
Speaker 1: Sir Friday, I can't hear you, but no I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't mute him. And and then what we see
Speaker 1: here in an essence here in a second is potential
Speaker 1: amplification of the energy here, which makes me wonder about
Speaker 1: the equations that you just posted where the plane disappears. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I see if you can fix the sound on your side.
Speaker 1: While you're doing that, I'm gonna play the other video
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, Chat says, we can't hear you. I
Speaker 1: can't hear you either. Unfortunately, don't have you muted. You're
Speaker 1: definitely not muted. I'll just commentate while you are figuring
Speaker 1: that out. On this one, we can see the heat
Speaker 1: signature of the orbs, and you can tell that there
Speaker 1: are displacing gravity themselves, but they're also pulling themselves forward
Speaker 1: here at the same time. Still can't hear you. No,
Speaker 1: Oh wait, there you go say something again, Jack, say something.
Speaker 1: I heard some feedback there, so it sounded like you
Speaker 1: were you're getting sound through one of your devices. I
Speaker 1: don't know which one it is. Can you say something?
Speaker 1: Still can't hear you, No, microphone's still dead. No, I
Speaker 1: can't hear you. I can see her lips moving, but
Speaker 1: I can't hear you. Still can't hear you.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't hear me.
Speaker 1: I can hear you now, Yeah, you're you're in. I
Speaker 1: can hear you now.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think what happened. I don't know what
Speaker 2: happens with the earputs.
Speaker 1: You can hear me now, yea, yeah, yeah, you're good,
Speaker 1: You're good?
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: So what do you think? Are we looking at video
Speaker 1: games effects here? What do you think?
Speaker 2: You know? Why? Because anything could be c G. I
Speaker 2: I'm not an expert and evalue. I'm not a c
Speaker 2: I a analyst and and evaluating. There are people who
Speaker 2: can evaluate that.
Speaker 1: That's not me.
Speaker 2: It's not my job. It's a waste of my time.
Speaker 2: I don't give a ship because I don't know. I
Speaker 2: can be fooled as easy as the next to me,
Speaker 2: and I know the limits of my expertise. So this
Speaker 2: looks like bad CGI to me. Anything be fake, you
Speaker 2: know the deep fakes that you can't believe anything you see.
Speaker 2: This has to be done by you know, by uh uh.
Speaker 2: There's a forensic This guy one three, I know he
Speaker 2: has a guy in Israel. If they're still alive, they
Speaker 2: can do it. You know, they do a computer analysis
Speaker 2: and and check to make sure it's not artificial. So
Speaker 2: so this is worthless. There's no evidence, nothing. It's worthless
Speaker 2: because we don't know. We don't know, we don't know
Speaker 2: how this was done, who made.
Speaker 1: This, So there's no way to tell, just from a
Speaker 1: physics standpoint, if this is what it would look like,
Speaker 1: there's nothing here.
Speaker 2: I don't understand. It's nothing. It has no value whatsoever
Speaker 2: unless it's analyzed by the proper people with the proper
Speaker 2: equipment to check pixel by pixel whether it's fake or
Speaker 2: not fake. They can tell. I can't tell. That's not
Speaker 2: my field of expertise. And you should be intelligent enough
Speaker 2: to know the difference. What I'm able to talk about.
Speaker 2: I can't talk about that one way or the other.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what your opinion was.
Speaker 2: That's want anybody else. The deep fakes are very good,
Speaker 2: that's true to be artificial intelligence. We don't know if
Speaker 2: it's real. Where'd you get it from? Who gave it
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 1: I found it on the internet from twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2: Well, then that's bullshit. You can't believe any anyone who
Speaker 2: believes what they're seeing on the Internet without checking it.
Speaker 2: As an idiot, I.
Speaker 1: Checked into it. I think I found the guy who
Speaker 1: make those videos.
Speaker 2: Why, that's why we have a war in Ukraine, because
Speaker 2: people are stupid like you and everybody in most Americans idiots, naive,
Speaker 2: gullable schmucks.
Speaker 1: No, I'm pretty sure the videos are real. But you're
Speaker 1: entitled to your opinion for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no my opinion is worth us. Your opinion
Speaker 2: is worthless because you don't know what the fuck you're saying.
Speaker 2: You don't know if it's real or not.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's real.
Speaker 2: There's a way of finding out if it is reel.
Speaker 2: But you haven't done your job. You haven't done any
Speaker 2: due diligence.
Speaker 1: Leaker, I found the leaker of the videos, so you
Speaker 1: can give it.
Speaker 2: I can put you in touch. Oh wait a minute,
Speaker 2: you know one for real?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll in touch with him.
Speaker 2: Okay, So you tell you get you give the file
Speaker 2: to one. He gives it to his friends in Israel
Speaker 2: and they'll tell you if it's real or not. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he has guys who can do that. That's expertise. But
Speaker 2: you know that's like the highest like the National Reconnaissance Office,
Speaker 2: National Security agency.
Speaker 1: They do that. N r O, they do that. Oh,
Speaker 1: n r O. I sent them to the ar O
Speaker 1: as well, so I hope they come back to me. No,
Speaker 1: that r O the National Rester National Concerts Office, not
Speaker 1: the ar There are a.
Speaker 2: Bunch of idiots. Yeah, it's just more than you are.
Speaker 1: That's very point.
Speaker 2: Is this. All the stuff you see on the internet
Speaker 2: is worthless. It's worthless. There's no scientific value whatsoever, no evidentry.
Speaker 2: And by the way, that's probably why a lot of
Speaker 2: at the Pentagon they said, you know, there's no evidence.
Speaker 2: That's the kind of evidence let's take. Well, let's put it.
Speaker 2: If it's real, they'll classify it. I have seen, Oh
Speaker 2: I have seen the real thing. You haven't seen it.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. Okay, I've seen it. So that's why
Speaker 2: i'm because I know this stuff is real, but not
Speaker 2: the ship you're showing me. I saw, you know, stuff
Speaker 2: that's vetted by the military. You know that's there's just
Speaker 2: from the horse's mouth.
Speaker 1: And you know, did it look like tak or did
Speaker 1: it look like an orbit?
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: I can't say that. I'm curious.
Speaker 2: I know, I don't want to get my source in trouble.
Speaker 1: Ah, ok gotcha. Okay, I thought you heard it first.
Speaker 1: I thought you've seen it firsthand though what I thought
Speaker 1: you've seen it firsthand though you just said you've seen it.
Speaker 2: I've seen it. I've seen it. I've seen firsthand evidence
Speaker 2: from my active military source who's in charge of the project. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm seeing but I know I know what I'm seeing
Speaker 2: is not fake because I know who this guy is.
Speaker 2: I work with. I know who the guy is. He's
Speaker 2: the real McCoy. And the reason they're showing it to
Speaker 2: me is because they know I can under like they
Speaker 2: were not able to explain it. That's why they came
Speaker 2: to me. They're not stupid, makes sense, okay. And also
Speaker 2: they're not American. Huh.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to get your source in trouble here,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I appreciate it, sir.
Speaker 2: And that's why. That's why, that's why President and Biden
Speaker 2: listening to and Blincoln and Stinking and Newland and all that,
Speaker 2: that's why they lost they You know, I was at
Speaker 2: Bohemian Grove, this place called Bohemian Grove a couple of
Speaker 2: years ago, and I heard Robert Gates was talking. Somebody
Speaker 2: asked him. He was giving a talk up at the
Speaker 2: lake there, you know where they have the ceremony, you know,
Speaker 2: with the owl, and and somebody asked him, this is
Speaker 2: back pre COVID, you know, this is when Biden was
Speaker 2: when Trump. Trump was the president then and and Biden
Speaker 2: there was no longer vice president. And somebody asked Gates.
Speaker 2: Somebody from the audience asked Gates what they thought of
Speaker 2: Joe Biden. And Gates just looked and said, every foreign
Speaker 2: policy decision that Joe Biden was involved with ended in disaster.
Speaker 2: This is a bat By twenty eighteen, twenty eighteen, right
Speaker 2: at the Bohemian Grove. And so now we see it.
Speaker 2: I've got it. The pull out funk Bull was totally
Speaker 2: botched by the idiots, the incompetence. And now Kiev what
Speaker 2: let me just say, if you look at and do
Speaker 2: your research, Putin is now preparing an offensive. That's why
Speaker 2: they're bombing, pulling out the power stations with the missiles.
Speaker 2: Putin is going to destroy to make an unconditional surrender
Speaker 2: of Zelensky in Kiev before the election, probably before by
Speaker 2: the only reason that which we're still trying to support
Speaker 2: Ukraine is so Biden is affair. He's going to lose
Speaker 2: the election with In other words, there's going to be
Speaker 2: a humiliating defeat before November twenty twenty four in Ukraine.
Speaker 2: So they've already lost, but it's going to be obviously
Speaker 2: everyone lost, and and that way Putin is interfering the election,
Speaker 2: but we interfered in his stuff too, So tit for tat, so.
Speaker 1: Real quick, thank you. I appreciate your time. I have
Speaker 1: to drop as I have a space I've got to
Speaker 1: join here, but I want to give you a moment
Speaker 1: to plug anything you want to plug. But before that,
Speaker 1: I want to go ahead and just make you an
Speaker 1: honorary member of m H three seventy X. We advance,
Speaker 1: we look into advanced science. No no, I made you.
Speaker 2: No. Let me just say, don't don't check, just listen.
Speaker 2: My final words may have happened. I don't know if
Speaker 2: it happened or not. Okay, it may have happened, but
Speaker 2: you don't know. You have no information because that evidence
Speaker 2: you presented is worthless until you get it. Okay, you
Speaker 2: send the files to one and if one is able
Speaker 2: to get his friends to work on it, and if
Speaker 2: they say it's legitimate, then you have something right now,
Speaker 2: you got to nothing.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but my the organization that makes three seventy
Speaker 1: X isn't necessarily just based on the videos. It's just
Speaker 1: about advanced science, which I appreciate you showed us here today,
Speaker 1: which was amazing. So thank you for going through those
Speaker 1: equations and everything with me today. I thought it was awesome.
Speaker 1: I appreciated the political commentary as well. I thought it
Speaker 1: was very interesting.
Speaker 5: I think we don't get a lot of that, okay,
Speaker 5: but understand that, understand that that in order to be uh,
Speaker 5: in order not to be just a propaganda this just
Speaker 5: would be some flight that's pushing all kinds of bullshit.
Speaker 2: Doesn't know this, you know, like all the other flakes
Speaker 2: like Jeremy Corble, George Knapp, all these assholes, all these idiots,
Speaker 2: is just spreading some of the stuff. You know, some
Speaker 2: of it is true, some of it isn't true, but
Speaker 2: they're too stupid to know what's true or not. What
Speaker 2: methods are that if you want to present evidence, make
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Speaker 1: Awesome. Thank you very much, Jack, have a great day, sir.
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