WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Capless and Welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.879 edition of The Dankplas Show. Please be sure to give 3 00:00:05.960 --> 00:00:08.240 us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.759 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:15.679 Sang on my phone. 7 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.199 I don't some of you know this on the iPhone. 8 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:20.000 They've got that little stock app. I added Tesla Tude 9 00:00:20.039 --> 00:00:24.160 to give me a little boost during the day two 10 00:00:24.239 --> 00:00:25.760 twenty five and dropping. 11 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:27.920 And if you own one. 12 00:00:28.359 --> 00:00:30.640 If you own one, we're not blaming you. You can 13 00:00:30.960 --> 00:00:33.840 you can take dental floss and pull the Tesla thing off, 14 00:00:33.880 --> 00:00:37.479 you know, and take out of just telling you and well, 15 00:00:37.759 --> 00:00:40.280 this nation guy could kick most of their ass. I 16 00:00:40.320 --> 00:00:40.640 do that. 17 00:00:41.039 --> 00:00:43.960 I know I can't run them, but I don't know if. 18 00:00:43.840 --> 00:00:46.200 We're going to fall into that place where we want to. Okay, 19 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:49.200 we challenge you to a do you know, a wwe 20 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:50.320 fight here type of thing. 21 00:00:51.679 --> 00:00:54.159 Welcome to the Dan Caplis Show. We're starting off with 22 00:00:54.240 --> 00:00:56.560 something like that because the show can only go up 23 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:59.159 from here. As you can tell you're not listening to 24 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:01.759 Dan Capless and Self today, you have Sheriff Steve Riams 25 00:01:01.799 --> 00:01:03.560 filling in for a second day in a row here, 26 00:01:03.960 --> 00:01:07.159 but I just couldn't help but started to show off 27 00:01:07.159 --> 00:01:10.239 with such a low note with tampon Tim getting ready 28 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:12.959 to take on all the Republicans. You know, I don't 29 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.799 know if he's looking for volunteers to get into the 30 00:01:15.879 --> 00:01:18.040 ring with, but I'm more than happy to be the 31 00:01:18.079 --> 00:01:20.680 first on the agenda. Oh, I can't think of anything 32 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:22.760 more that I would like to do than to wrestle 33 00:01:22.920 --> 00:01:26.280 or box tampon Tim. Make him use one of those 34 00:01:26.319 --> 00:01:27.480 to fix his bloody nose. 35 00:01:27.840 --> 00:01:28.280 I like it. 36 00:01:28.400 --> 00:01:30.959 Keep going with that. And also, if you remember the 37 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.879 JD Vance Jim from the office side eye look during 38 00:01:33.879 --> 00:01:36.719 the debate and then the wide eyed look by Tim Walls, 39 00:01:36.840 --> 00:01:39.040 that would be the look he had when Sheriff Steve 40 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:40.159 Reams is coming into the ring. 41 00:01:40.239 --> 00:01:42.120 I would love to see his wild hands trying to 42 00:01:42.159 --> 00:01:44.519 figure out how he's going to amaze me with everything 43 00:01:44.519 --> 00:01:44.920 he's going to do. 44 00:01:45.000 --> 00:01:48.319 There's gestures and waves and gallivanting. 45 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:52.040 This guy has no tough guy status whatsoever, but he's 46 00:01:52.040 --> 00:01:54.200 trying to flex tough guy status. And look, you know, 47 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:57.159 you either do or you don't. But he has to 48 00:01:57.200 --> 00:01:59.359 have a family around him that just looks at him. 49 00:01:59.400 --> 00:02:02.040 And says, yeah, you're a dad guy. Don't try to 50 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.519 be the tough guy. Lean into that. Don't try to 51 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:06.319 get into a boxing room. You're going to get your 52 00:02:06.319 --> 00:02:06.840 butt kicked. 53 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:09.759 You're right, But you think about the family around him. 54 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:12.520 Wasn't his wife Gwen the one that she doesn't blink 55 00:02:13.000 --> 00:02:15.280 and then she was just looking at the audience, going 56 00:02:15.599 --> 00:02:18.919 turn the page, turn the page. It was like a 57 00:02:19.000 --> 00:02:21.120 villain from a Stephen King movie or something. 58 00:02:21.199 --> 00:02:24.280 Well, you know, when Harris picked him as her vice 59 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:27.360 presidential running mate, she used the same playbook that Biden 60 00:02:27.360 --> 00:02:29.520 did and said, who could I pick that would be 61 00:02:29.520 --> 00:02:32.159 worse than me? And she found him, I mean, the 62 00:02:32.199 --> 00:02:35.759 most awkward guy ever, and yeah, the most awkward family ever. 63 00:02:36.439 --> 00:02:39.039 I don't know. I kept thinking this guy would go away, 64 00:02:39.080 --> 00:02:40.560 but he keeps trying to be relevant. 65 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.919 So you look at the diminishing returns of the domino 66 00:02:43.000 --> 00:02:46.039 effect you described their sheriff and Obama of course picked 67 00:02:46.080 --> 00:02:48.960 Biden for the reason you obsoluted. So then Biden picks 68 00:02:49.039 --> 00:02:52.280 Kamala for that reason, and then Kamala picks Walls for 69 00:02:52.319 --> 00:02:55.159 that reason. Where do you go from Walls aoc lower? 70 00:02:55.439 --> 00:02:56.960 I don't know. I think at some point you're picking 71 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.120 like a bean bag or a trash bag or something. 72 00:02:59.120 --> 00:03:03.039 You know, sack up a Yeah, it's a mess, but hey, 73 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:04.800 as long as they're in free fall, let's let him 74 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.520 stay that way. And you know, hopefully the Democrats in 75 00:03:07.599 --> 00:03:10.400 Colorado will take a page out of that playbook and 76 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:14.599 they'll they'll start pushing to those crazy far leftists to 77 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:16.439 run for the highest office. And I didn't I don't 78 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.240 think you can. I didn't think you could get much 79 00:03:19.240 --> 00:03:22.439 farther to the left than Jared Polis. But I have 80 00:03:22.520 --> 00:03:25.240 a feeling in this next election cycle we're going to 81 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:28.080 see some we're going to see some weirdo's come out 82 00:03:28.080 --> 00:03:31.719 of the woodworks. But when we're talking about candidates for governor, 83 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.080 you know, I'm worried about what's going to come from 84 00:03:34.080 --> 00:03:36.919 the left, but I'm pretty I'm pretty hopeful with what's 85 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.719 going to come from the right. And uh here recently 86 00:03:39.759 --> 00:03:42.240 we had a candidate that announced that he was going 87 00:03:42.280 --> 00:03:45.439 to run for governor on the Republican side. He's a 88 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:47.599 guy that I've known for a little bit of time. 89 00:03:47.680 --> 00:03:51.759 He's the sheriff in Teller County. His name is Jason 90 00:03:51.800 --> 00:03:53.879 mike Sel And we're going to start off the show 91 00:03:53.919 --> 00:03:56.360 with giving Jason Mikexel some time to kind of talk 92 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:59.080 about why he's getting in the race and what he 93 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:01.280 can bring to the state of Colorado. Jason, how you doing. 94 00:04:02.319 --> 00:04:03.879 I'm good, Steve, how are you doing today? 95 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:05.960 I'm doing great. Hey, thanks for coming on the show. 96 00:04:06.280 --> 00:04:08.039 You know, like I said, I've known you for a 97 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:09.639 long time. I think a lot of people in southern 98 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:12.800 Colorado know you. Here. Recently, you've made a splash in 99 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:16.800 the news taking on the ACLU and pushing some immigration 100 00:04:16.879 --> 00:04:20.360 bills at the state capitol that obviously took a fiery 101 00:04:20.399 --> 00:04:23.279 demise from the Democrats. But why don't you take just 102 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:25.480 a few minutes to introduce yourself as a candidate and 103 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.800 kind of give your background a little bit so that 104 00:04:27.879 --> 00:04:29.839 we can get to know you and so the listeners 105 00:04:29.879 --> 00:04:30.439 can get to know you. 106 00:04:31.360 --> 00:04:31.519 Yeah. 107 00:04:31.560 --> 00:04:32.360 Absolutely so. 108 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.720 My name is Jason Mike sol I'm a third generation 109 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:38.120 Colorado and I grew up in the car Springs area, 110 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:42.680 born in car Springs. I'll tell you, I love Colorado. 111 00:04:42.759 --> 00:04:45.519 I grew up here and I remember running the woods 112 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:48.199 and just being a part of everything that had to 113 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.519 be Colorado at the time, just the freedoms that we 114 00:04:50.519 --> 00:04:54.360 were given. And you know, I've been in law enforcement 115 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:57.560 almost thirty years now. I left law enforcement, retired for 116 00:04:57.560 --> 00:05:00.319 a short time, started my own companies. I've had both 117 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.519 big companies that I've had to scale and I've had 118 00:05:02.560 --> 00:05:06.000 small companies now that I wanted to create an environment 119 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:08.639 within my own county that they have people had places 120 00:05:08.680 --> 00:05:10.600 to go, and so I and my wife actually invested 121 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:14.040 back into our local community. And really, I love business 122 00:05:14.399 --> 00:05:15.800 and I love all the things to do that, and 123 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.360 I love being a sheriff and protecting a community and 124 00:05:18.759 --> 00:05:22.000 just being part of that community. And really, Colorado is 125 00:05:22.079 --> 00:05:24.600 home and it is my community all across Sport everywhere 126 00:05:24.639 --> 00:05:27.199 I go, and I meet such great sheriffs and people. 127 00:05:27.279 --> 00:05:30.240 So that's one of the reasons I wanted to run, 128 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.720 and really I want and we have a tagline, so 129 00:05:34.000 --> 00:05:36.439 it's I want my Colorado back, and I truly do. 130 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:38.920 But I want it back for our children, and I 131 00:05:38.959 --> 00:05:41.199 want it back for the freedoms that they should be 132 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:43.519 able to get. And I want young people to be 133 00:05:43.560 --> 00:05:45.800 able to buy homes and go to state parks and 134 00:05:45.839 --> 00:05:47.800 not have to pay all these crazy fees and be 135 00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:49.439 able to drive down a highway and Colorado do not 136 00:05:49.519 --> 00:05:53.639 have to pay a toll just because so hunting fishing 137 00:05:53.639 --> 00:05:55.480 has been a big part of my life also and 138 00:05:55.560 --> 00:05:58.439 really enjoying our outdoors, and it's really coming under fire lately. 139 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:00.759 And I just finally woke up with more and said, 140 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:02.519 you know, it's time to stand up and just do 141 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:04.480 the right thing. And knowing that I was going to 142 00:06:04.519 --> 00:06:08.519 get blasted by the Democratic side, a very leftist Democrat side, 143 00:06:08.560 --> 00:06:10.920 but I think there's a large part of Colorado that 144 00:06:11.079 --> 00:06:13.560 just really wanted to be a Colorado where you can 145 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:15.839 be free and enjoy what we have here in the states. 146 00:06:17.199 --> 00:06:19.639 All those things are I think things that resonate with 147 00:06:19.720 --> 00:06:22.680 a lot of the voters here in Colorado. And to 148 00:06:22.720 --> 00:06:24.879 make things clear, you're going to be running on the 149 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.319 Republican side. I don't think there's any doubt about that. 150 00:06:27.399 --> 00:06:31.600 But just for the listener's sake, where do you see 151 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.839 your pathway to winning? I mean, what's the message that 152 00:06:34.920 --> 00:06:37.800 you have that no one else does? Well? 153 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:40.920 I think leadership, clear leadership. We haven't really had a 154 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.240 clear leader in Colorado in a mayor position, are in 155 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:47.839 a governor position for a very long time. And here's 156 00:06:47.879 --> 00:06:51.959 the thing I have dealt with large Colorado wildfires. I've 157 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:54.519 dealt with mine incidences within my own county that have 158 00:06:54.560 --> 00:06:59.199 been the international incidences. You know, you steal so many 159 00:06:59.240 --> 00:07:02.120 things as a and Colorado when it deals with leadership 160 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:04.920 and making decisions, and I think, you know, that's that's 161 00:07:04.920 --> 00:07:07.000 something you can't teach. It's something that you have to 162 00:07:07.240 --> 00:07:10.079 have that badge of ownership and have earned. And the 163 00:07:10.120 --> 00:07:13.199 other side owning businesses and understanding, you know, how you 164 00:07:13.240 --> 00:07:16.000 treat employees, how you deal with things, and how you 165 00:07:16.000 --> 00:07:18.439 grow companies because Colorado has really got to grow, right, 166 00:07:18.480 --> 00:07:22.800 We've we've got a lot of crisises within Colorado budget crisises. 167 00:07:22.879 --> 00:07:25.399 You know, we're one three one point three billion dollars 168 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.519 shortfall for the year, and in any business they would fire. 169 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:29.240 The leadership for doing that. 170 00:07:29.319 --> 00:07:29.480 Sure. 171 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.680 Yeah, So you know, there's so many different things steve 172 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:34.959 that that really I think is a path to win 173 00:07:35.040 --> 00:07:36.879 in this state. And a lot of it has to 174 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:39.600 do with our crisis in law enforcement, our mental health, 175 00:07:40.240 --> 00:07:42.439 the fact that we're just taking tax payer money and 176 00:07:42.480 --> 00:07:43.959 throwing it out the door and we're given it to 177 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:47.839 people that have come here undocumented and illegally into the state. 178 00:07:48.439 --> 00:07:50.040 That that's an issue. 179 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:53.279 Yeah, we have Jason Michael on the line as candidate 180 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.199 for governor, Republican candidate for governor, just giving us a 181 00:07:56.199 --> 00:07:59.079 little bit of his background and his reasoning for getting 182 00:07:59.120 --> 00:08:02.160 into the governor's race. You hinted to it just a 183 00:08:02.160 --> 00:08:04.399 little bit about, you know, kind of the attack on 184 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:08.160 law enforcement or the general tone towards law enforcement. You know, 185 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.160 you've you've been a sheriff for what six years? Eight 186 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:12.040 years somewhere in there. 187 00:08:12.920 --> 00:08:14.519 Yeah, what have you seen that? 188 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:17.759 What have you seen that the tone change in your 189 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:20.839 time of not just as sheriff, but in law enforcement 190 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:23.240 in general. And where do you think that takes the 191 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:24.519 state of Colorado in general? 192 00:08:25.480 --> 00:08:25.680 Well? 193 00:08:25.720 --> 00:08:26.399 Where to start? 194 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.759 I mean, you know, I remember back in the day 195 00:08:28.839 --> 00:08:30.800 law enforcement was able to do what was needed to 196 00:08:30.800 --> 00:08:33.200 protect the citizens. I look at it now and I go, 197 00:08:34.039 --> 00:08:36.519 you have a group like the ACLU that's firing off 198 00:08:36.559 --> 00:08:38.679 letters to sheriffs basically saying they're going to go after 199 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:42.919 deputies who they believe are doing the wrong things. You've 200 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:46.519 got more lawsuits that are happening towards law enforcement because 201 00:08:46.759 --> 00:08:49.840 current legislation is opening the door for that. You have 202 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:55.000 a state legislature that's reducing laws in Colorado, like we're 203 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:57.039 dealing with one today. I have people testifying on which 204 00:08:57.080 --> 00:09:00.000 is extreme indifference. So if somebody shoots in your house 205 00:09:00.159 --> 00:09:02.759 as they drive by, or temps skill a law enforcement 206 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.120 officer but they miss, they're going to reduce that from 207 00:09:06.159 --> 00:09:08.600 a Class two felony down to a classify phony so 208 00:09:08.639 --> 00:09:11.480 that those people can be released on parole. Sure, we're 209 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:13.519 shutting down prisons at a record pace and then we're 210 00:09:13.519 --> 00:09:17.399 releasing them back into parle which then go after communities. 211 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:20.159 And I hear a lot of issues about well, you know, 212 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:22.559 the single moms and the mothers are trying to buy 213 00:09:22.559 --> 00:09:26.000 eggs because the cost of groceries. Don't totally get that. 214 00:09:26.080 --> 00:09:27.559 But when they go back to their car and their 215 00:09:27.559 --> 00:09:29.960 car has been broken into, it doesn't help there either. 216 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:30.480 Yeah. 217 00:09:30.720 --> 00:09:32.879 I think there's a lot of issues I've seen that 218 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:37.679 far are far beyond the pale. And problem is not 219 00:09:37.679 --> 00:09:39.600 going to get any better. With the candidates on seeing 220 00:09:39.600 --> 00:09:42.279 that are running and the lack of understanding of what 221 00:09:42.320 --> 00:09:45.440 the second order of impacts are when they produce these laws, 222 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:46.600 it's just going to get worse. 223 00:09:46.960 --> 00:09:51.320 Absolutely. So you hinted a little issue about the ACLU. 224 00:09:51.360 --> 00:09:53.159 We're going to take a break, if you'll stand by 225 00:09:53.240 --> 00:09:55.080 with us through the break. When we come back, I 226 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:56.960 want to open up with kind of your battles with 227 00:09:57.000 --> 00:09:59.799 the ACL you I've had my own. We can commiserate 228 00:09:59.799 --> 00:10:01.519 over that just a little bit. But we'll go to break, 229 00:10:01.559 --> 00:10:03.039 hang out with us, Jason, and as soon as we 230 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:05.879 come back, we'll dive right back in. You're listening to 231 00:10:05.919 --> 00:10:08.960 the Dan Caplis Show and you have Sheriff Steve Reims 232 00:10:08.960 --> 00:10:10.639 as guest host. 233 00:10:11.679 --> 00:10:14.080 And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 234 00:10:14.919 --> 00:10:17.080 Welcome back to the Dan Caplis Show. You got Sheriff 235 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:20.960 Steve Reims setting in for day number two. Real pleasure 236 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:23.720 to be here filling in for Dan. Like I said yesterday, 237 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.480 he's a person I love to listen to. He and 238 00:10:26.559 --> 00:10:29.679 Ryan both big fan and it's just really cool to 239 00:10:29.720 --> 00:10:31.960 be sitting in the seat today. But when we went 240 00:10:31.960 --> 00:10:35.080 to break, we were talking with with Sheriff Jason mike 241 00:10:35.120 --> 00:10:37.679 Sel from Tuller County who's announced that he's a candidate 242 00:10:37.720 --> 00:10:40.000 for governor, And before we went to break, he was 243 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.279 talking a little bit about some of the issues he's 244 00:10:42.399 --> 00:10:44.559 faced as sheriff, and I know one of those is 245 00:10:44.600 --> 00:10:47.679 dealing with the ACLU which I like to call the 246 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:51.360 Alien Civil Liberties Unit, Unit Union, whatever you want to 247 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:55.039 call him. They certainly don't represent Americans too much anymore. 248 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:57.600 And I know Jason had quite a run in with him. 249 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.679 So Jason, let's come back with how did you end 250 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.480 up dealing with the ACLU and what was the issue 251 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:05.879 that you were fighting to push for your agency? 252 00:11:07.320 --> 00:11:10.320 Well, really it started like two days after I became 253 00:11:10.360 --> 00:11:12.360 a sheriff. I had the first call from the ACA 254 00:11:12.440 --> 00:11:15.039 you basically killing me. Hey, listen, are you going to 255 00:11:15.039 --> 00:11:17.000 get on board like other shriffs? So I started calling 256 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.840 around to find out what had happened. And what they're 257 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:22.519 wanting me to do is sign a letter saying that 258 00:11:22.559 --> 00:11:24.840 I would not detain, I would not arrest, I would 259 00:11:24.840 --> 00:11:29.240 not assist ice in any operations. And part of the 260 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:31.360 problem that I ran into was that when we had 261 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.519 the black market marijuana epidemic that was running, and we 262 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.480 had lots of cartels in my county because they just 263 00:11:37.480 --> 00:11:39.639 grow marijuana, and every time I ran into one of 264 00:11:39.679 --> 00:11:44.000 these places, we were dealing with criminal, illegal aliens, And 265 00:11:44.360 --> 00:11:47.080 really that was driving a lot of the FEN and 266 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:48.919 a lot of sexual traffic and a lot of issues 267 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:51.519 in the Colorado and into my area as well. So 268 00:11:51.559 --> 00:11:55.480 when we started arresting these folks for doing crimes in Colorado, 269 00:11:56.039 --> 00:11:58.919 we started contacting ICE. Well, when I was doing the 270 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:03.000 detentions on these people the Aco, you became very unhappy 271 00:12:03.039 --> 00:12:05.200 because they wanted me to basically bond them and release 272 00:12:05.200 --> 00:12:07.159 them and not contact ICE. But when I start talking 273 00:12:07.240 --> 00:12:09.519 to ICE, some of these people were, you know, they're 274 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.279 pretty nasty criminals. They had criminalistories from everywhere. 275 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:13.519 That's shocking they don't. 276 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:17.120 It was just shocking to me and I went, why 277 00:12:17.120 --> 00:12:18.840 would I want to release this person back in my 278 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.919 community right? And really what they try to do is 279 00:12:21.960 --> 00:12:24.039 they didn't even call around the restaurants in different areas 280 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:26.240 in my county to find out how I treated, you know, 281 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:29.240 Hispanic population or other populations. And what they got back 282 00:12:29.240 --> 00:12:33.399 from people is they liked me. And there was this 283 00:12:33.480 --> 00:12:37.200 false narrative push constantly, and we were winning in court 284 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:39.960 with them. We were running willing in the legislatures because 285 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:42.799 they weren't able to get their bills across. And even 286 00:12:42.840 --> 00:12:45.159 when we had the appeals court decision that said, hey, 287 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:48.440 the sheriff can't arrest people, they still upheld that I 288 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:52.919 could actually still having a two eighty seven G program 289 00:12:52.960 --> 00:12:57.360 with ICE, and that we could still go and work 290 00:12:57.399 --> 00:13:00.799 with ICE, and that prior to that, they'd put out 291 00:13:00.879 --> 00:13:03.600 a letter saying that, you know, I had lost the case, 292 00:13:03.639 --> 00:13:05.440 and they knew I couldn't say anything because we're right 293 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:09.320 in the middle of it. Yeah, you have the letter, 294 00:13:09.360 --> 00:13:11.840 and it shocked me because they knew I couldn't say anything. 295 00:13:11.840 --> 00:13:13.879 So when it finally ended, I put out a statement, Hey, 296 00:13:13.919 --> 00:13:16.720 you know we're still standing. We won because we did 297 00:13:16.759 --> 00:13:18.879 and I'm still doing the two eighty seven G program. 298 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.039 But what they really did was they pushed this far 299 00:13:21.240 --> 00:13:23.879 false narrative that I was out to get every illegal 300 00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:26.279 immigrant in Colorado and that wasn't the case. And actually, 301 00:13:27.080 --> 00:13:29.679 I've been to so many countries and illegal immigrants or 302 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:32.320 immigration isn't a bad thing. You want people to come here, 303 00:13:32.360 --> 00:13:34.200 you want them to work, you want them to enjoy 304 00:13:34.200 --> 00:13:37.440 it with just want them to do it the right way. 305 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.000 And what the Aco you really doesn't like is that 306 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:43.279 we arrested someone not very long ago who was a 307 00:13:43.279 --> 00:13:47.200 criminal illegal alien. The person that makes the arrest is 308 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:50.440 from another country here on a work visa, working for me, 309 00:13:50.639 --> 00:13:53.399 and he makes the arrest. The person does a two 310 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:56.919 eighty seven G program, came to America, ended up getting 311 00:13:56.960 --> 00:14:00.879 their work visas, getting their American citizenship. They got to 312 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:04.000 swear under oath to be an American citizen in my uniform. 313 00:14:04.399 --> 00:14:06.080 And they're the ones I sent the two eighty seven 314 00:14:06.080 --> 00:14:08.159 G program, and they're the ones that did the two 315 00:14:08.159 --> 00:14:09.879 eighty seven G program. So it's hard for them to 316 00:14:09.960 --> 00:14:13.360 argue with me that I hate immigrants, but I just 317 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:17.039 wanted to do right dealing with this criminal illegal aliens. 318 00:14:17.480 --> 00:14:20.120 So Jason from that, I think that kind of puts 319 00:14:20.120 --> 00:14:22.919 you in the action of trying to push Senateville forty 320 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:26.679 seven that we saw die a fiery death this legislative season, 321 00:14:27.559 --> 00:14:31.120 but it wasn't without remark and if you would kind 322 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.399 of form the listeners about what Senate Bill forty seven 323 00:14:33.519 --> 00:14:34.600 was aiming at doing. 324 00:14:35.519 --> 00:14:38.960 Well, some of Bill zero forty seven basically it went 325 00:14:39.000 --> 00:14:42.360 after dealing with criminal illegal aliens only, and we even 326 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.600 talked about the fact that we wouldn't be able to 327 00:14:44.600 --> 00:14:48.960 do stop and ask for papers, We wouldn't be able to, 328 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:51.480 you know, just arrest people because they're Hispanic, we wouldn't 329 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.279 be able to do round up operations. But what it 330 00:14:54.320 --> 00:14:56.399 did say is that we could work with ICE. It 331 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:59.000 allowed the State of Colorado actually to speak with ICE 332 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:02.519 about people that incarcerated in jails and allow us to 333 00:15:02.600 --> 00:15:07.480 jail people for ICE so that that we could house 334 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.799 more criminal illegal aliens in the state of Colorado. And 335 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:15.159 that bill, which really had a horrible death because it 336 00:15:15.159 --> 00:15:19.039 was party line vote. Again, weird people testifying against it 337 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.559 that really didn't even know what the bill said. Their 338 00:15:21.600 --> 00:15:24.519 whole testimony was, well, you're going to do round up operations. Well, 339 00:15:24.559 --> 00:15:27.240 it says in the bill you can, and on and 340 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:30.000 on and on and on, and it just it was 341 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.720 amazing to me that we want criminal illegal aliens. And 342 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:35.279 you know, Steve, I didn't know if you know this, 343 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:37.559 but Colorado actually had a bill it passed two years 344 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:42.000 ago that funds legal operations for illegal aliens. Yes, to 345 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:45.159 fight these things. Yeah, yeah, we have our taxpayer dollars 346 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:45.639 are doing that. 347 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:49.159 We have a taxpayer funded organization or taxpayer fund that 348 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:54.759 helps defend illegals from the deportation process. It's it's absurd, 349 00:15:54.840 --> 00:15:58.039 it's obscene, but that's what the State of Colorado is. 350 00:15:58.159 --> 00:16:01.399 And in a narrative in this where we're seeing you know, 351 00:16:01.639 --> 00:16:05.360 apartment complexes being taken over, which by the way, actually happened, 352 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:08.240 despite the mainstream media trying to tell everybody that it didn't. 353 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:11.200 You come forward with a common sense bill. You you 354 00:16:11.559 --> 00:16:14.080 found some sponsors down at the state House said look, 355 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.000 we're just trying to get rid of the bad ones. 356 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:18.519 Let us do our job, and they killed it on 357 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:20.759 a party line vote. I mean, if it died a 358 00:16:20.840 --> 00:16:24.080 very fiery death, but it wasn't without note. I mean, 359 00:16:24.200 --> 00:16:27.120 you know, sometimes message bills are exactly that, and I 360 00:16:27.120 --> 00:16:29.039 think you delivered a loud message. 361 00:16:30.200 --> 00:16:32.360 Well I appreciate it, Steve, just I tell you that 362 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:33.200 was a tough road. 363 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:38.000 Well, we're talking with Sheriff Jason Michel from Teller County. 364 00:16:38.039 --> 00:16:42.000 He's a candidate for governor here in the state of 365 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:45.000 Colorado or Colorado on the Republican side. We got just 366 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:47.960 a few minutes left, Jason, if you want to take it, 367 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:49.759 you know, this last minute and a half and kind 368 00:16:49.759 --> 00:16:52.679 of explain to the listener where they can find more 369 00:16:52.759 --> 00:16:55.840 about you, some of your key points for your campaign, 370 00:16:55.919 --> 00:16:57.679 and if they want to support you, how they can 371 00:16:57.720 --> 00:16:58.399 do so the best. 372 00:16:59.360 --> 00:16:59.519 Yeah. 373 00:16:59.559 --> 00:17:00.279 Absolutely so. 374 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:03.679 I have a campaign platform. It's on It's a web page. 375 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:06.519 You can go to Mike School. It's m I K, E, 376 00:17:06.640 --> 00:17:10.920 S E L L or gov the number four gov 377 00:17:11.119 --> 00:17:14.599 dot com. All my platforms are there. It has all 378 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:17.519 the information that you need. You can make donations there. 379 00:17:18.119 --> 00:17:20.240 You can actually ask to help us on that site. 380 00:17:20.279 --> 00:17:22.640 So if you would just go to it, you can 381 00:17:22.680 --> 00:17:24.720 see everything you have and I can answer any questions 382 00:17:24.759 --> 00:17:25.480 you may have for it. 383 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:29.400 Well, that's that's a good start. I got one question. 384 00:17:29.799 --> 00:17:32.400 Are the roads in Tyler County and Colorado Springs as 385 00:17:32.400 --> 00:17:34.359 bad down there as they are everywhere else in the state. 386 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:39.160 I'd say our roads are atrocious. It's it's a travesy. 387 00:17:39.359 --> 00:17:41.160 I come from other states. I'll drive in the state 388 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:43.759 of Colorado when I'm when I'm out visiting family and friends, 389 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:47.680 and you know, when you cross into Colorado there's no missing. 390 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:49.599 I just have to say, if any if any one 391 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.240 pillar of your campaign can be fixing the roads, please 392 00:17:52.279 --> 00:17:54.960 add that in. Jason, we really appreciate you coming on 393 00:17:55.000 --> 00:17:58.720 the show. You know, it's great having a candidate jump in. 394 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:00.400 I'm sure there'll be some more on the radio show 395 00:18:00.400 --> 00:18:03.440 before too long. But again thanks to Jason Michel from 396 00:18:03.480 --> 00:18:05.920 Teller County for getting on with the Dan Kapla show. 397 00:18:05.960 --> 00:18:07.359 You have Steve Raims his guest host. 398 00:18:07.359 --> 00:18:22.599 Thank you you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 399 00:18:27.039 --> 00:18:29.039 Welcome back to the Dan Caples Show. You're here with 400 00:18:29.119 --> 00:18:31.720 Steve Raims, Weld County Sheriff as the guest host today. 401 00:18:32.039 --> 00:18:34.559