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Speaker 2: We are about roughly four hours away from tip off
Speaker 2: Louisville and Virginia Tech. I have at least once, maybe twice,
Speaker 2: maybe more than that reference tonight's game as a big game,
Speaker 2: and I stand by it because anytime I get to
Speaker 2: watch this team play, I get some big game vibes.
Speaker 2: More so, just because the revival is happening. We are
Speaker 2: watching this Louisville basketball program come back to life quickly.
Speaker 2: They're now in the top twenty in both polls, and
Speaker 2: I feel good about where they are. I can't wait.
Speaker 2: I mean I can't wait because you know, I don't
Speaker 2: want this thing to end. And once you get to March,
Speaker 2: the big dance, I mean, it's winter, go home can
Speaker 2: end really quickly. And in fact, the last tournament that
Speaker 2: Louisville was in, they were the first team to go
Speaker 2: home because they played the first game and lost to Minnesota.
Speaker 3: That was horrible.
Speaker 2: Yeah it was to Hose Air and uh oh you
Speaker 2: were Yeah it was uh I mean, it was a
Speaker 2: good experience being there. It was my first time covering
Speaker 2: a tournament.
Speaker 3: Road de Mo in Iowa, Okay, Okay.
Speaker 2: And at the time we had we had we had
Speaker 2: the games, and uh my seat was with the other
Speaker 2: media members that were, you know, in a media section.
Speaker 2: That wasn't a bad seat. It just you know, it
Speaker 2: wasn't court side. But at the time, Paul was doing
Speaker 2: the game with Bob and Gus who's now our boss.
Speaker 2: He was at the time not only did he work
Speaker 2: for us at iHeart, but he worked at uh he
Speaker 2: worked for Learfield and he was the engineer for the
Speaker 2: for the broadcast for the football and basketball games, and
Speaker 2: he just happened to have a seat next to him,
Speaker 2: and I got to watch it courtside, and I got
Speaker 2: to have a headset on that was turned off. Microphone
Speaker 2: was so I got to watch the game listening to
Speaker 2: Paul and Bob call it, and it was an awesome
Speaker 2: experience other than you know, losing. That wasn't That wasn't fun.
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was bad enough getting matched up with
Speaker 4: Baby Patino and literally being the first game.
Speaker 2: And they were an ugly team that was hard to watch.
Speaker 2: They could not shoot, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 2: they got hot from three and a mere coffee went off.
Speaker 3: Right and brother.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish I had his genes. He was a
Speaker 2: hell of a player still. Actually he's a guy who's
Speaker 2: actually lasted in the NBA for quite some time. The
Speaker 2: Clippers trapped at him and he's been been hanging around.
Speaker 2: So anyways, I'm going to enjoy tonight regardless of what happens,
Speaker 2: other than, of course, you know, a loss, which I
Speaker 2: don't think will happen, but I always want to throw
Speaker 2: it out there and there's really no benefit, doesn't matter
Speaker 2: what I say, but there's been and that's all that.
Speaker 2: In a way, it's kind of made it a little
Speaker 2: more exciting because we know this team doesn't have like
Speaker 2: a super high ceiling. And what I mean by that
Speaker 2: is that doesn't mean they can't make a run and somehow,
Speaker 2: you know, find their way deep into the tournament. But
Speaker 2: I think we're getting the most out of nearly everybody
Speaker 2: who plays, which again speaks to how good of a
Speaker 2: job Pat Kelsey has done. So to know that, you know,
Speaker 2: they could have a really rough night shooting. They've had
Speaker 2: times where they don't do great at the free throw line.
Speaker 2: There've been some times like Georgia Tech where they weren't good.
Speaker 2: They certainly weren't the best version of themselves, but I
Speaker 2: think Georgia Tech had a lot to do with them
Speaker 2: winning against Louisville. They were hitting tough shots and they
Speaker 2: had some big, furious runs of their own, and that's
Speaker 2: how you lost the game. So I know they can lose,
Speaker 2: and that gives me the level of excitement to where
Speaker 2: I'm not bored, you know what I mean, Like it's
Speaker 2: still an acc game. Virginia Tech is. You know, they're
Speaker 2: they're not popcorn State. But louisvill should be able to
Speaker 2: take care of business tonight. And this team is absolutely
Speaker 2: proven that they will come ready to play. That's not
Speaker 2: a guarantee that it happens, but let's be honest. They
Speaker 2: come out like flat and get get down big early
Speaker 2: or something, and it just isn't there night, and it's
Speaker 2: an unexpected loss. I mean, that happens in sports, that's life,
Speaker 2: but that would be the first time we saw this
Speaker 2: team do that in this kind of a situation in
Speaker 2: conference play against a team that you know they're better
Speaker 2: then So until that happens, I'm gonna assume that it won't,
Speaker 2: but also have the awareness that you know it's possible
Speaker 2: anything can happen currently not and a half point favorites
Speaker 2: tonight had some pushback on the text line everybody's saying
Speaker 2: hammer Louisville, and maybe you're right, because I do think
Speaker 2: when it comes to the spread, which we're gonna get
Speaker 2: to gambling in just a moment, not because I'm gonna,
Speaker 2: you know, bore you with all of my picks. But
Speaker 2: the story Pat forty broke earlier today with details as
Speaker 2: far as how the Johntay Porter gambling ring made its
Speaker 2: way into college basketball. Just the details of that I
Speaker 2: think are interesting. But anyways, with with Louisville, I don't
Speaker 2: think that, Like I hate saying this because it sounds
Speaker 2: like I'm making a criticism or complaint. I just think
Speaker 2: it's the reality of how it's played out. I do
Speaker 2: think they are like they've played that they've played better
Speaker 2: basketball away from the UM Center. They've also, you know,
Speaker 2: blown out some teams at the UM Center. I remember
Speaker 2: what they did a wake forward at the beginning of
Speaker 2: that game. Like they've been they've been fun as hell
Speaker 2: at home and look they they've only they haven't lost
Speaker 2: an ACC game at home other than to Duke. So
Speaker 2: I don't want to I don't want to in any
Speaker 2: way act like they're not the same team when they
Speaker 2: go on, but they just seem to play a little better.
Speaker 2: They seem to make more threes on the road. Maybe
Speaker 2: that's not even a true thing to say. Maybe I'm
Speaker 2: just you know, imagining that. But I'm I'm fact checking
Speaker 2: somebody on the text line here because they have let's see, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean you are correct. The the games that they
Speaker 2: have not covered outside of the loss, the only games
Speaker 2: they've noted an acc play outside of the loss to
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech were three home games. They they ended up
Speaker 2: beating Virginia by fourteen, spread was fourteen and a half.
Speaker 2: They got the hook, they ended up only they beat
Speaker 2: Miami by ten, spread was seventeen and a half. Spread
Speaker 2: was thirteen and a half against Florida State and they
Speaker 2: won by eight. So you know, maybe the play is
Speaker 2: to hammer them on the road as favorites because they
Speaker 2: usually you know, they usually win big. One spread I
Speaker 2: did not understand in fact two of them. Here's what's crazy.
Speaker 2: They were favored by eight and a half against CINCYA State.
Speaker 2: They won that game ninety one to sixty six. Only
Speaker 2: favored by seven and a half against a terrible Notre
Speaker 2: Dame team and won seventy five to sixty in a
Speaker 2: GA where I don't even feel like they played that well,
Speaker 2: you know, for their standard. So I would imagine they'll
Speaker 2: take care of business tonight, and if they do have
Speaker 2: happened to win big, maybe it's a result that can
Speaker 2: help them in the UH in the bracket. In the net, really,
Speaker 2: bracketology is what I was gonna say. It's actually what
Speaker 2: I meant. But the net is something that you know,
Speaker 2: we reference that we know the NCAA selection committee does utilize.
Speaker 2: It's not the end all be all, but it is
Speaker 2: a metric that they created. It's certainly flawed, but it
Speaker 2: is theirs. Therefore they are going to use it. Probably
Speaker 2: in fact, they will use it more than any other
Speaker 2: metric out there. But for what it's worth, real quick,
Speaker 2: just because I just had his Twitter page pulled up,
Speaker 2: but Joel Nardi, he put out a fresh update earlier
Speaker 2: this afternoon, and what I like looking at knowing that,
Speaker 2: of course, you know, he's just one guy. He's not
Speaker 2: on the committee.
Speaker 3: But I do think.
Speaker 2: When you think about bracketology, who's good, who's bad? The
Speaker 2: only thing I really care about is just you know,
Speaker 2: somebody that is entertained by bracketology. I mean, as much
Speaker 2: as I know these guys aren't the ones fielding the tournament,
Speaker 2: I do look at everyone that I see out there
Speaker 2: on social media just because I'm interested and I'm interested
Speaker 2: to see it in. I also get a rouse seeing
Speaker 2: Louisville safely in because it's been a long time coming. Right,
Speaker 2: So that sounded bad. I just in about out a
Speaker 2: five second window there, Austin, I said, I'm aroused, long
Speaker 2: time coming. That just I just it's one of those
Speaker 2: moments where people just turn on the radio and they
Speaker 2: hear that. They're thinking, what the hell's wrong with this guy?
Speaker 3: You know, I'm so used sentenceized by it.
Speaker 2: Clean it up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just you could have been dirtier.
Speaker 2: Honestly, It's just it's just every day for me. You're
Speaker 2: used to it now. But yeah, we don't want our
Speaker 2: first time listeners thinking we're a bunch of white trash perp.
Speaker 4: You know what I mean, what do we say we
Speaker 4: ain't first class? That's right trash.
Speaker 2: That should be like the tagline for the show.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 2: With credit to saw your.
Speaker 4: Brown, I haven't heard that anybody outside it, outside of
Speaker 4: Sawyer Brown, maybe like a Facebook post here or there,
Speaker 4: but it's it's a it's a long forgotten about term
Speaker 4: way to describe it when they.
Speaker 2: Ask, like, sort of where we fit in the tears
Speaker 2: of society. Yes we're not first class, Yes, bo we
Speaker 2: ain't white trash, but we do tend we do lean
Speaker 2: a little bit more on the on the on the
Speaker 2: white trash side, sure, but we're not quite there, at
Speaker 2: least at least we don't think we are.
Speaker 4: I embrace a white trash nests the closeness to the
Speaker 4: white trash spectrum of it.
Speaker 2: I mean, we're getting sidetracked here, but I have to
Speaker 2: say it just because it's true, Like I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is, because you know, I'm not I'm not
Speaker 2: a I don't believe that I'm like a hillbilly or
Speaker 2: like a redneck. And if you are, there'sne wrong with that,
Speaker 2: but you know I don't have any like, I'm not
Speaker 2: not a backwoods guy. You know country songs talking about
Speaker 2: dudes who you know they're targeting, that they relate to.
Speaker 2: I'm not anything Like there was a song Justin Moore wrote, well,
Speaker 2: I like Justin Moore by the way, but a song
Speaker 2: he had a song titled you Can't Even Beta Hook.
Speaker 2: Pretty sure he wrote it about me. It's all the
Speaker 2: things he's saying that you know, this guy can't do
Speaker 2: because he's not a country boy. Yeah he's a sissy
Speaker 2: kind of feel like it was me. Maybe you play
Speaker 2: that on the next rejoint. Okay, But anyways, I find
Speaker 2: myself like there's nothing like Bullet County. Fair I'd live
Speaker 2: there the whole time. It's in session. Like I just
Speaker 2: it's my you know, maybe I'm a poser because I
Speaker 2: don't really think it's my people. I mean, it is
Speaker 2: my people. I'm from Bullet County, proud obviously, but you know,
Speaker 2: I I don't necessarily I don't know. I don't want
Speaker 2: to say something that I'm going to offend anybody. But
Speaker 2: like there's a stigma about Bullet County that I oftentimes
Speaker 2: find myself like, you know, have you seen Fairdell. Yeah
Speaker 2: that's Jefferson County. But it's the same thing, damn it.
Speaker 4: Farm life, like wide open plains, like hard work, and
Speaker 4: like blue collar like.
Speaker 3: Americans that keep this country running. Over here we go.
Speaker 2: You said it better than me.
Speaker 3: Blue collars or just a couple of gas bags and
Speaker 3: talk on the radio.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm not, I'm not blue collar like and
Speaker 2: I you know, not that I wish I was, because
Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be cut out for
Speaker 2: that kind of kind Yeah, but I'm you know, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm I got clean hands as they say, or.
Speaker 3: You got brother.
Speaker 2: You ever seen that TikTok? Of course, But anyways, the
Speaker 2: seed lines for Lenardi he updated it today. Louisville is
Speaker 2: up to a well, I think they've been it as
Speaker 2: a They've been a seventh seed for a while with
Speaker 2: Lenardi and then twenty five overall is their seed line,
Speaker 2: so Kentucky, they are still sitting as a three seed,
Speaker 2: number eleven overall according to Linardi. And you know, Louisville
Speaker 2: is two seeds behind Clemson and I kind of don't
Speaker 2: like that. But again, they have a monster win. They
Speaker 2: have a phenomenal win against Duke, so they deserve to
Speaker 2: be ahead of Louisville. But Louisville also beat them. And
Speaker 2: let's be honest, I gotta you know here, I am
Speaker 2: being the homer and I try to do this to
Speaker 2: like remind the audience that if you're a louis A fan,
Speaker 2: you feel like we're being disrespected. We're really not. I
Speaker 2: think people know we're good, but they're basing it off
Speaker 2: the resume and the resume. I think where we are
Speaker 2: is the number twenty five overall seed. I think it
Speaker 2: makes sense because again, like Clemson, they have a win
Speaker 2: against Kentucky and a win against Duke. Our best win
Speaker 2: is against Clemson, and the second best win is your
Speaker 2: best guess I don't know what it would be. So
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean Louisville's not a legitimately good team that
Speaker 2: could go make a run. It's just you got to
Speaker 2: base it off the resume, all right, So really quickly
Speaker 2: the news broke, I feel like officially today this is
Speaker 2: an exclusive report from Pat Forty of Sports Illustrated.
Speaker 3: There have been some mention.
Speaker 2: About maybe the gambling ring that took down John tay Porter,
Speaker 2: and it says here in the article that Rosia is
Speaker 2: still still being investigated for his involvement. I guess they
Speaker 2: haven't been able to figure out, you know, if he
Speaker 2: was in fact altering his line. If so, that's a
Speaker 2: no no for Terry and that will end his career
Speaker 2: and ruin his life to be honest with you, but
Speaker 2: does say here in the article he's still under federal investigation,
Speaker 2: but he's not been charged. So they were following the bets, right,
Speaker 2: the same people who were clearly and held accountable. They've
Speaker 2: been charged federally with telling John tay Porter what to
Speaker 2: do and you know, making these wagers knowing that he
Speaker 2: was going to shape points and alter his line. They
Speaker 2: were betting on a lot of stuff. And sure enough,
Speaker 2: they've they've now noticed that there's been a pattern. So
Speaker 2: investigators flag suspicious betting patterns in at least nine different
Speaker 2: college basketball games, including Temple, Eastern Michigan, and North Carolina
Speaker 2: A and T. Now what I find to be interesting
Speaker 2: is there is a a guy who is not that
Speaker 2: he's not the guy that has been federally charged just yet,
Speaker 2: at least not that I can not that I can tell.
Speaker 2: But there's a guy by the name, last name of
Speaker 2: is it Hennan, Yeah, Shane Hennan.
Speaker 3: He is.
Speaker 2: He's apparently the guy who is uh is I guess
Speaker 2: one of the one of the ring leaders here. So
Speaker 2: we operated a sports betting business where he's basically selling picks.
Speaker 2: His uh really really great website name by the way,
Speaker 2: for what you're doing in your business, sugar shanewins dot com.
Speaker 3: I love that role, baby.
Speaker 2: So he sold exclusive betting picks for a lot of money,
Speaker 2: and his website and the social media accounts that he
Speaker 2: had really showed that he was clearly a winner, because
Speaker 2: we're talking luxury cars, private jets, big money, the large
Speaker 2: stacks of cash. I mean, he was making it clear
Speaker 2: that he's a guy that does well, so you should
Speaker 2: buy his picks. But many of his bets were placed
Speaker 2: on these obscure college games where sportsbooks have lower limits
Speaker 2: to prevent, you know, manipulation, and his betting slips would
Speaker 2: show millions wagered over years, but not all slips could
Speaker 2: be like independently verified. So this guy's been betting like
Speaker 2: this has probably been widespread long before gambling has been
Speaker 2: legal in a lot of these states. But it also
Speaker 2: linked to Johntay Porter and Roseer. Now the college stuff,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's tough to know. I mean they haven't
Speaker 2: named any players specifically, but I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is this is not good. But again I always say
Speaker 2: this when it comes to somebody getting caught, Rather it
Speaker 2: be Johntay Porter, which is the worst of the worst,
Speaker 2: shaving points and really putting the app salute credibility of
Speaker 2: the game on the line. I mean, like that's just
Speaker 2: I mean, that's a shameful thing for a variety of reasons.
Speaker 2: And that's why they're going to make the ultimate example
Speaker 2: out of you, and you're gonna go to federal prison.
Speaker 2: But then there's other guys like Ridley, the receiver in
Speaker 2: the NFL who didn't bet on who made small wagers,
Speaker 2: not on anything about his team, he was making wagers
Speaker 2: on other things, and he got suspended for an entire year.
Speaker 2: So when these things happen, rather it be a mild,
Speaker 2: silly kind of thing that you really don't think the
Speaker 2: guy did something crazy, but he just broke a rule
Speaker 2: that he knew he shouldn't break, and it's a dumb
Speaker 2: thing to do because of all that you have to
Speaker 2: lose in very little to gain. That's the mild version.
Speaker 2: The extreme version is Johntay Porter. Anybody who had any
Speaker 2: influence in sports betting becoming legal in all these states
Speaker 2: across the United States knew that this would happen, and
Speaker 2: it's a calculated risk that you take, and what you
Speaker 2: do is when it does happen, you hold somebody accountable
Speaker 2: to scare others from doing it, And more than anything,
Speaker 2: I think what you do is you make it clear
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get away with it. We're gonna we
Speaker 2: got eyes on you everywhere, like we know everything you're doing.
Speaker 2: And I'm sure people can slip through the cracks from
Speaker 2: time to time, but they're always gonna get caught. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: I got shut out of my account for a month
Speaker 2: almost because I just crossed state lines and logged into
Speaker 2: my account. They flagged that as suspicious activity and like
Speaker 2: took forever to let me back in again. I think
Speaker 2: it's on them, and it shouldn't have taken that long
Speaker 2: for me to just have this revolving door of providing
Speaker 2: an ID in my name and all that. But they
Speaker 2: have to take it that serious because you just have to.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what the outcome is gonna be.
Speaker 2: But there's a possible co conspirator along with Sugar Shane.
Speaker 2: This guy's name is Marvis Fairley. He's known as v Zino,
Speaker 2: and he's suspected of being kind of the middleman. He's
Speaker 2: another guy that was selling picks on social media. He
Speaker 2: hadn't been charged, but he has a history as a
Speaker 2: bookie and a criminal record of illegal gambling. So I mean,
Speaker 2: if in fact you know he's involved, nobody's going to
Speaker 2: be shocked. But again, this guy, I mean, just this
Speaker 2: is such a easy thing to potentially do. Therefore, like
Speaker 2: this is this is a new type of like news
Speaker 2: story and it's not good. But we have access to
Speaker 2: these athletes all the time now, I mean, they probably
Speaker 2: don't read every message they get. I don't know why
Speaker 2: they would, But think about playing college basketball, not at Duke,
Speaker 2: not at Kentucky, not at Louisville, not at Kansas, but
Speaker 2: at Eastern Michigan, Mississippi, Valley State, North Carolina, A and
Speaker 2: T even Temple. You're not making an ale money. And
Speaker 2: if you're smart and you want to try to maybe
Speaker 2: go off the radar, go get one of those guys
Speaker 2: to shape points. They'll do it because they probably are
Speaker 2: I shouldn't say they're supid enough, but like they they
Speaker 2: don't have the nil money. Again, it's still a dumb
Speaker 2: thing you should not do. But they may see other
Speaker 2: guys they're playing against in these by games when they
Speaker 2: go on the road, and they know these guys are
Speaker 2: driving six figure vehicles making big money, there's gonna be
Speaker 2: some jealousy and they're gonna want to they're gonna want
Speaker 2: to get paid. So apparently what was let me see
Speaker 2: the way they were able to Uh, I'm trying to
Speaker 2: see that there was a I can't. This article is
Speaker 2: it's and I encourage you to check it out. It's
Speaker 2: really good work from Pat Fordy and his crew at
Speaker 2: Sports Illustrated. But the way in which they caught them,
Speaker 2: it was, you know, where's it at? It was just
Speaker 2: in front of me. Now I can't. Yeah, So they
Speaker 2: were using straw betters and proxies to get to you know,
Speaker 2: to to have this, I guess go undetected for as
Speaker 2: long as it did. By using different associates of Sugar
Speaker 2: Shane in different states, and his network avoided drawing immediate
Speaker 2: attention because again we're talking about people across you know,
Speaker 2: six states over logging in and there's no connection. But
Speaker 2: some of these associates allegedly had criminal backgrounds and ties
Speaker 2: to underground gambling operations. So if you are somebody that
Speaker 2: is on the radar for again, your your criminal record
Speaker 2: and you being tied to underground gambling, that obviously is
Speaker 2: illegal and then they see that you have an account,
Speaker 2: that's a red flag. Then they're going to see what
Speaker 2: you're betting on and maybe if it's influenced, you know.
Speaker 2: To me, I just don't know how anybody that does
Speaker 2: this that thinks thinks that they're going to be able
Speaker 2: to fully get away with it. Like, to be honest
Speaker 2: with you, if you are a if you're doing what
Speaker 2: this Shane guy is doing, your best bet is to
Speaker 2: find a stranger in another state, Like don't don't don't
Speaker 2: have a guy that's a that's you know, probably one
Speaker 2: of your entourage that lives in a different state that's
Speaker 2: willing to do it. But like if they got a
Speaker 2: criminal record and you know they're tied to underground gambling,
Speaker 2: like that's a stupid person to use. Find a grandma
Speaker 2: in the Ebrasca that is gonna get you know, a
Speaker 2: ten percent cut if she's now again, but even that
Speaker 2: would be a red flag. Like if you're making big,
Speaker 2: big wagers, that alone is gonna bring attention to you,
Speaker 2: regardless of if you are. If you're some college kid,
Speaker 2: they're probably gonna look into you and think that either
Speaker 2: maybe you're a really good gambler or maybe you're somebody
Speaker 2: they put up to it. But if you are, like cause,
Speaker 2: you gotta put in your social Security number. So if
Speaker 2: they do see that that, you know, a grandma on
Speaker 2: Nebraska in her seventies is cleaning up, that's also a
Speaker 2: red flag. That's not your typical client. Tele So anyways,
Speaker 2: not a shock that it's made its way to college sports,
Speaker 2: and they'll make examples out of these people, and it'll
Speaker 2: probably happen again, but I don't think it'll ever be
Speaker 2: widespread enough to where we got to worry about the
Speaker 2: integrity of the game. But we'll see quick break. We
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd like to think that. I think anybody can
Speaker 2: bait a hook if they if they try, But I've
Speaker 2: never done it and just a worm. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: I've never done it. I certainly couldn't and have never
Speaker 2: skinned a buck.
Speaker 4: I haven't, But I can bait. I've been told I'm
Speaker 4: a master at doing that.
Speaker 2: Okay, I also do know who Jack Daniels is, though,
Speaker 2: of course, and I I have thrown out a line,
Speaker 2: you know, fishing before. But if I if somebody handed
Speaker 2: me a fishing pole, I believe that I would be
Speaker 2: able to at least, you know, get it into the water.
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't. Also, I would also not be shocked if, like,
Speaker 2: if i'd like hit the wrong button and it didn't
Speaker 2: work the way it should the first time. What was
Speaker 2: the other one?
Speaker 3: Uh? Let me see.
Speaker 2: He can't even bait a hook, can't even skin a buck,
Speaker 2: you know, Jack Daniels.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and never drove a truck. I ain't ever drive.
Speaker 2: Definitely, I've definitely uh driven a truck.
Speaker 3: And when he.
Speaker 4: Got three out of three out of three out of
Speaker 4: four things, three out of five, yeah, there you go
Speaker 4: and now here, Yeah you're right, and.
Speaker 3: The uh the.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess. I mean, I've driven a truck, but
Speaker 2: I've never owned one. If he means just like you've
Speaker 2: never actually operated one, then I can say that I have.
Speaker 2: I did. This was many years ago, back in like
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. I ended up in a I ended up
Speaker 2: getting in a car accident where I had to have
Speaker 2: my car repaired and insurance got me a rental and
Speaker 2: the only thing they had was a was a red
Speaker 2: Ford F two fifty. Oh yes, And you know, I
Speaker 2: got used to it for a little while, and it
Speaker 2: felt kind of like you just I just felt like
Speaker 2: I was just floating above everybody else. It wasn't it
Speaker 2: wasn't easy to park. But you know, I had it
Speaker 2: for like three weeks, but man, I got looks in
Speaker 2: it that just you know, everybody trip, everybody thinking like,
Speaker 2: all right, this guy's over compensating for something.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 2: So you know, it wasn't not doing it. It wasn't
Speaker 2: me the truck, but uh, you know, I'm not anti truck.
Speaker 3: But anyways, so, like, is that supposed to be like impressive?
Speaker 3: Du a woman? Like home a lot?
Speaker 4: He can, he can bait a hook, he could, he
Speaker 4: could skin a buck? Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And he drives a truck.
Speaker 3: Yeah? Ten out of ten?
Speaker 2: I mean, is that the starter pack?
Speaker 3: I guess?
Speaker 4: So well, I got a question for you, mister Moore.
Speaker 4: Can you can can you.
Speaker 2: Uh you produce a radio show?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Can you produce a radio show?
Speaker 4: Can you hit a three leg college basketball parlay on
Speaker 4: a Tuesday?
Speaker 3: About that?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: I don't even worried because he can't even hit a parlay. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there you go, remix. Do you got you got Lamar
Speaker 2: University to cover? Probably not back back at you, miss
Speaker 2: mister Moore with your big hat. I actually met Justin
Speaker 2: Moore a few times. He's he's came here like he
Speaker 2: he loves the bluegrass.
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's from here, but you know
Speaker 3: he's from Arkansas.
Speaker 2: Okay, do you know that I've probably seen him in
Speaker 2: concert more than you've seen anybody in concert. Really, it's
Speaker 2: weird again I mentioned earlier, like I don't know what
Speaker 2: it is, like I kind of feel like I'm a
Speaker 2: poser and he's not really talking.
Speaker 3: To me clearly.
Speaker 2: Justin Moore love Justin Moore. I've seen him. I've seen
Speaker 2: him in Kentucky a bunch because he's been here a bunch.
Speaker 2: But I've also seen him in Cincinnati, like he was
Speaker 2: at the fair this past year and I saw him.
Speaker 4: So he's kind of short, little diminutive, but he has
Speaker 4: that you call that a ten gallon, that's like a
Speaker 4: that's a fifteen gallon.
Speaker 2: And he is somebody that absolutely I think has been
Speaker 2: the same artist since the first day he ever had
Speaker 2: a record on the radio, and he's mainstream enough, but
Speaker 2: he's never fully broke through.
Speaker 3: But yes he's.
Speaker 2: Got I'm not kidding you, man, And I'm nerding out
Speaker 2: here a little bit on this because I you know,
Speaker 2: the the the albums that I think that were phenomenal,
Speaker 2: I mean, they're not new. But he did Justin Moore.
Speaker 2: His first his first title, his first album was just
Speaker 2: his Name, Justin Moore, and that I believe had his
Speaker 2: breakout hit was small Town, USA, How I Got to
Speaker 2: be this way? I could kick your ass? I mean
Speaker 2: he had He had a song called Grandpa the Only
Speaker 2: Place I Call Home. All these were radio hits. Then
Speaker 2: he had an out Then he had a song an
Speaker 2: album two years later called Outlaws Like Me that had
Speaker 2: a bunch of I mean yeah. It was a number
Speaker 2: one on the Top Country Albums.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 2: He had two one number one, If Heaven Wasn't So
Speaker 2: Far Away? And then Beta Hook was a top twenty
Speaker 2: country hit, and then Till My Last Day Again It's
Speaker 2: it's a it's a hot take in the country music
Speaker 2: world of the twenty tens. But his first three albums,
Speaker 2: one was his Name, Outlaws Like Me, and then Off
Speaker 2: the Beaten Path. I don't know if if anybody's had
Speaker 2: three straight albums that did that well in that short
Speaker 2: amount of time. It was a little bit before that,
Speaker 2: like it was when people still did buy CDs, but
Speaker 2: they didn't purchase I mean, you could still do it then,
Speaker 2: but like you were, you weren't listening on Spotify or
Speaker 2: Apple Music. You were you were buying the album on iTunes.
Speaker 3: You were playing that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you were playing that in that too, exactly when
Speaker 4: they still had the CD players.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he's I'm a fan.
Speaker 2: And it's weird when I tell you, guy, when I
Speaker 2: tell people how much I am a fan of him
Speaker 2: and I've seen him a bunch, like they look like
Speaker 2: what they don't They don't, they don't connect the two.
Speaker 2: But I'm just telling you I'm a big justin more guy.
Speaker 4: And it may sound silly because obviously like Dub, but
Speaker 4: like when you talk to him, like he has he
Speaker 4: has that same exact like deep accent, that deep country
Speaker 4: is very authentic.
Speaker 2: Yes, very much so, like he's there's a lot of
Speaker 2: guys on big in the industry now that may be authentic,
Speaker 2: but they don't seem like it. Yeah, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean like he's probably now if he was to
Speaker 2: sing that song, he probably, if he was being honest,
Speaker 2: would take a shot at somebody that's like mainstream. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like a Bailey Zimmerman. Yeah, of course, somebody like that
Speaker 2: in the Pretty Boy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Bailey Bailey Zimmerman just sound Billy Zimmerman sounds like
Speaker 2: a woman, to be honest with you. Yeah, he's like
Speaker 2: a gender neutral name, is it not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, Tony and DWIGHTE say they don't see gender Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: It's like Bailey Zimmerman's like a wanna be like Morgan
Speaker 4: wall And I think he's gonna get there because radio's
Speaker 4: pushing him like crazy, but he's being an off brand.
Speaker 2: Morgan Wallen would work this day and he's so popular,
Speaker 2: Like it works. You can eat his crumbs and be
Speaker 2: living large because that's how big he is right now.
Speaker 3: Just don't throw chairs off the balcony.
Speaker 2: You mentioned Dwight and Tony. I was listening to those
Speaker 2: guys yesterday, the trio Dwight, Tony and Dave, and they're
Speaker 2: a hoot. I mean every now and then, like and
Speaker 2: it's Dave Jennings, Dave Jennings has a gift that if
Speaker 2: you've listened to this show or this station, I should
Speaker 2: say long enough, you heard him on with Joeby and Denny.
Speaker 2: He was the quarterback essentially of that show. He was
Speaker 2: the guy who you know, hosted it, and he's let
Speaker 2: those guys tell stories and he would make a wise
Speaker 2: remark or just a one liner that would go right
Speaker 2: over Joe and Denny's head, but the audience got it,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, and his timing and his
Speaker 2: subtle like and he did it with the dog after
Speaker 2: an underdogs for years. I mean, he's just he's got
Speaker 2: a gift of the perfect one liner. He knows he
Speaker 2: picks his spots. Well, yeah, and they were talking about Hooters,
Speaker 2: the restaurant kind of going to they're going back to
Speaker 2: the drawing board as far as not rebranding totally, but
Speaker 2: trying to figure out why they're not reaching the the
Speaker 2: younger demo anymore. And Venetti had actually the best line
Speaker 2: that was just the truth, the Internet ruined Hooters. The
Speaker 2: Internet doesn't need you to go at Hooters and just
Speaker 2: imagine that they're not wearing clothes, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that's I mean, that's a valid point, is it not.
Speaker 2: I told Venetti I texted him when he said it
Speaker 2: the Internet ruined Hooters, I said, put her on a
Speaker 2: T shirt like or you know, create the Netflix documentary.
Speaker 2: But they were talking about how I mean again like
Speaker 2: Dave and Tony are I'm sorry, Dwight and Tony are
Speaker 2: doing their thing, but also kind of actually talking about
Speaker 2: the story that is the business struggling, and Dave jump.
Speaker 2: Dave just chimed in with the Dixie Highway and the
Speaker 2: Clarksville locations closed not that long ago at Hooters, and
Speaker 2: Dave mentioned, yeah, heard the sales really sagging there and
Speaker 2: it's just the timing of it. And then and then
Speaker 2: they were talking about like the specific detail is about
Speaker 2: what what like would be the right move, and he
Speaker 2: did some kind of a work around to where he
Speaker 2: mentioned he doesn't know the specific details, but then he
Speaker 2: said maybe that's just tit for tat and I'm just like, Dave,
Speaker 2: you're you're a legend, my man, like, Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3: One of my favorite parts of the show.
Speaker 4: I just love listening because first of all, that's an
Speaker 4: iheartstation and it's fun to wake up to. But those
Speaker 4: guys half the time don't give an f anyone.
Speaker 2: Well, you grew up listening to those guys like I did. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 2: and now here we are, look at us. Look who
Speaker 2: thought we get to claim that we're friends with him?
Speaker 2: We worked together.
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to be.
Speaker 2: And maybe I just picked up on it. But like
Speaker 2: Tony and it Tony, it is Tony. Tony's birthday was yesterday. Sorry,
Speaker 2: maybe if I'm gonna gass him up and and feed
Speaker 2: his ego a little bit more, maybe now it's the
Speaker 2: time to do it, since we're so close to his birthday.
Speaker 2: It was just yesterday. But they without really me thinking
Speaker 2: about it, made me realize that this is this is
Speaker 2: not supposed to like, this is supposed to be entertaining,
Speaker 2: and I hate you know, sounding I hate so and like,
Speaker 2: you know, like I'm so funny, I'm so entertaining. But
Speaker 2: that is the goal is to try to entertain you
Speaker 2: in some way, and it's not about doing stand up comedy.
Speaker 2: But those two guys specifically is spent with the dogs,
Speaker 2: especially Dave. Dave without knowing it, without me knowing it,
Speaker 2: I should say, made it quite clear for me when
Speaker 2: it comes to like humor and talk radio you have
Speaker 2: a one thousand percent better chance of the audience listeners
Speaker 2: thinking something you said was remotely humorous or funny.
Speaker 3: If you don't.
Speaker 2: Laugh, Dave will throw in a liner and it's the
Speaker 2: same delivery as everything he says. Right, Yes, like when
Speaker 2: you laugh at yourself collectively, like and you're just yucking
Speaker 2: it up like a bunch of jokesters like one. Fake
Speaker 2: laughs are really easy to pick up on. I agree,
Speaker 2: And it's almost like a scream that you don't think
Speaker 2: anybody else is gonna think it's funny, so you're laughing
Speaker 2: like it's right. It's so forced and cringe And I'm
Speaker 2: gonna sound awful when I say this, but I really
Speaker 2: don't enjoy a lot of what this is elsewhere. And
Speaker 2: not to say that I have the best show, clearly
Speaker 2: I don't. There's a lot of people, there's a lot
Speaker 2: of people more successful than me, but like there's just
Speaker 2: little things that more than anything, it's just the acquired
Speaker 2: taste that you have. And what I mean by that
Speaker 2: is like, you know, I like a certain style of
Speaker 2: show that probably I mean in fact, the shows that
Speaker 2: are that are tabbed as the most successful talk shows.
Speaker 2: Rather it be local markets or national, Like it's not
Speaker 2: really my cup of tea because I like to more
Speaker 2: so be entertained than just talk you know, numbers and whatnot.
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's have some fun. Like for example,
Speaker 2: there's a guy named Steve Zaban, a guy who is
Speaker 2: still around. He does a national show and I think
Speaker 2: he's actually doing a local show in either DC or
Speaker 2: Milwaukee now. But like he to me is hilarious, but
Speaker 2: like he's he's not a I mean he's not he's
Speaker 2: not he's not rich Eyes and he's not Damn Patrick
Speaker 2: or anything like that. Like Jim Rome. Jim Rome. I
Speaker 2: understand why he's not everybody's cup of tea, and I
Speaker 2: don't often think like he's like the funniest dude ever.
Speaker 2: But man, that was entertaining. That was a show that
Speaker 2: wasn't just talking sports.
Speaker 3: That was his show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Jim Rome. I mean I was a
Speaker 2: clone for a long time, and I guess I still am.
Speaker 2: But he's not on the market anymore. And I don't
Speaker 2: even know he recently took his show to It might
Speaker 2: be he left Premiere. I don't know where he is.
Speaker 2: But anyways, there's a random way for us to just
Speaker 2: give a shout out to the legends. That's right, Tony,
Speaker 2: Dave and Dwight. All right, let's get a quick break
Speaker 2: out of the way. We'll come back and wrap this
Speaker 2: thing up with some finishing thoughts as we get said
Speaker 2: for tonight to match up Louisville and Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: What are they the Hokies.
Speaker 2: Hokies, Yeah, stupid maskcot stick around right here on Sports
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Speaker 2: All right, we have very little time left and we'll
Speaker 2: get to the game really quickly. Just a second, but
Speaker 2: I do want to give a shout out to whoever
Speaker 2: it was that made the phenomenal creative decision. So Luka
Speaker 2: Doncic is making his debut tonight in Dallas as a
Speaker 2: non Maverick. He will be playing Actually is this in La.
Speaker 2: It's in La. But anyways, Luca's returning to well you're
Speaker 2: not returning, but he's playing his old team tonight. And
Speaker 2: this trade just happened not that long ago, and obviously you.
Speaker 3: Know, been a big deal.
Speaker 2: So he's a Jordan brand athlete, one of many in
Speaker 2: the NBA, and they put a thirty second commercial. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if it's gonna be on television, if for
Speaker 2: just the digital thing, but it is a Jordan Brand
Speaker 2: ad for Luka Doncik and he is walking to the
Speaker 2: back of his purple and yellow looks like a Lamborghini
Speaker 2: putting a California license played on it with the number
Speaker 2: seventy seven and the song playing. We've been talking country music, right,
Speaker 2: George Strait, All my exes live in Texas. Oh so
Speaker 2: simple but yet well done, right, brilliant. Whoever did that?
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't like it was the craziest thing
Speaker 2: to come up with, but man, it's perfect, Like sometimes
Speaker 2: you don't need to overthink it like that just works.
Speaker 2: Really love creative marketing. I'm a nerd for that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. All right tonight, Louisville Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not worried, are you?
Speaker 2: Host?
Speaker 3: I mean, as long as you're not worried, I'm not worried,
Speaker 3: and I think I'm good.
Speaker 2: And I've reiterated this anytime we talk about games like
Speaker 2: this with Louisville, until they show me that they could
Speaker 2: be prone to falling asleep at the wheel against a
Speaker 2: team that you know, is not nearly as good as
Speaker 2: them that they're expected to beat. And I don't meet
Speaker 2: like they have lapses in games. But I don't think
Speaker 2: it's because they've become complacent. I think it's just because
Speaker 2: they aren't perfect and also it's part of part of basketball.
Speaker 3: Well, what's Virginia Tech record?
Speaker 1: Overall?
Speaker 2: They're twelve and fifteen, and in conference play there's seven
Speaker 2: and nine. They don't have a win to speak of.
Speaker 2: Their best win has got to be their win against
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably their win against Virginia when they
Speaker 2: beat them by one at their place. So not worried, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean they're they're they're not good.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Technically, when it comes to the standings, the worst teams
Speaker 2: in the league are and really they're by themselves. It's
Speaker 2: Boston Collegency State in Miami. And then you've got the
Speaker 2: I guess sucky tier but not as bad as the bottom,
Speaker 2: which is QSE California, Notre Dame, Virginia. And then you've
Speaker 2: got the slightly above that tier but still they suck
Speaker 2: is Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh should be better,
Speaker 2: but they fallen apart that job should open up to
Speaker 2: by the way.
Speaker 3: It should.
Speaker 2: It won't, but it should. All right, we're out of time.
Speaker 2: Enjoy the game, everybody.
Speaker 3: Again.
Speaker 2: It's a nine o'clock tip, so we'll probably be up
Speaker 2: later than we need to be. But if it's a
Speaker 2: Louisville win, I'm gonna consider it a good night, and
Speaker 2: it should be a louisl win. Take everybody,