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<v Speaker 1>For Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk

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<v Speaker 1>seven to nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>We are about roughly four hours away from tip off

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville and Virginia Tech. I have at least once, maybe twice,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe more than that reference tonight's game as a big game,

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<v Speaker 2>and I stand by it because anytime I get to

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<v Speaker 2>watch this team play, I get some big game vibes.

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<v Speaker 2>More so, just because the revival is happening. We are

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<v Speaker 2>watching this Louisville basketball program come back to life quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>They're now in the top twenty in both polls, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel good about where they are. I can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I can't wait because you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want this thing to end. And once you get to March,

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<v Speaker 2>the big dance, I mean, it's winter, go home can

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<v Speaker 2>end really quickly. And in fact, the last tournament that

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville was in, they were the first team to go

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<v Speaker 2>home because they played the first game and lost to Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>That was horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah it was to Hose Air and uh oh you

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<v Speaker 2>were Yeah it was uh I mean, it was a

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<v Speaker 2>good experience being there. It was my first time covering

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<v Speaker 2>a tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>Road de Mo in Iowa, Okay, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And at the time we had we had we had

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<v Speaker 2>the games, and uh my seat was with the other

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<v Speaker 2>media members that were, you know, in a media section.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't a bad seat. It just you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't court side. But at the time, Paul was doing

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<v Speaker 2>the game with Bob and Gus who's now our boss.

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<v Speaker 2>He was at the time not only did he work

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<v Speaker 2>for us at iHeart, but he worked at uh he

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<v Speaker 2>worked for Learfield and he was the engineer for the

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<v Speaker 2>for the broadcast for the football and basketball games, and

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<v Speaker 2>he just happened to have a seat next to him,

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<v Speaker 2>and I got to watch it courtside, and I got

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<v Speaker 2>to have a headset on that was turned off. Microphone

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<v Speaker 2>was so I got to watch the game listening to

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<v Speaker 2>Paul and Bob call it, and it was an awesome

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<v Speaker 2>experience other than you know, losing. That wasn't That wasn't fun.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it was bad enough getting matched up with

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<v Speaker 4>Baby Patino and literally being the first game.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were an ugly team that was hard to watch.

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<v Speaker 2>They could not shoot, and then all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>they got hot from three and a mere coffee went off.

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<v Speaker 3>Right and brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wish I had his genes. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>hell of a player still. Actually he's a guy who's

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<v Speaker 2>actually lasted in the NBA for quite some time. The

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<v Speaker 2>Clippers trapped at him and he's been been hanging around.

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<v Speaker 2>So anyways, I'm going to enjoy tonight regardless of what happens,

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<v Speaker 2>other than, of course, you know, a loss, which I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think will happen, but I always want to throw

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<v Speaker 2>it out there and there's really no benefit, doesn't matter

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<v Speaker 2>what I say, but there's been and that's all that.

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<v Speaker 2>In a way, it's kind of made it a little

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<v Speaker 2>more exciting because we know this team doesn't have like

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<v Speaker 2>a super high ceiling. And what I mean by that

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<v Speaker 2>is that doesn't mean they can't make a run and somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, find their way deep into the tournament. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think we're getting the most out of nearly everybody

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<v Speaker 2>who plays, which again speaks to how good of a

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<v Speaker 2>job Pat Kelsey has done. So to know that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they could have a really rough night shooting. They've had

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<v Speaker 2>times where they don't do great at the free throw line.

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<v Speaker 2>There've been some times like Georgia Tech where they weren't good.

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<v Speaker 2>They certainly weren't the best version of themselves, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think Georgia Tech had a lot to do with them

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<v Speaker 2>winning against Louisville. They were hitting tough shots and they

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<v Speaker 2>had some big, furious runs of their own, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>how you lost the game. So I know they can lose,

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<v Speaker 2>and that gives me the level of excitement to where

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not bored, you know what I mean, Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>still an acc game. Virginia Tech is. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>they're not popcorn State. But louisvill should be able to

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<v Speaker 2>take care of business tonight. And this team is absolutely

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<v Speaker 2>proven that they will come ready to play. That's not

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<v Speaker 2>a guarantee that it happens, but let's be honest. They

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<v Speaker 2>come out like flat and get get down big early

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<v Speaker 2>or something, and it just isn't there night, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>an unexpected loss. I mean, that happens in sports, that's life,

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<v Speaker 2>but that would be the first time we saw this

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<v Speaker 2>team do that in this kind of a situation in

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<v Speaker 2>conference play against a team that you know they're better

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<v Speaker 2>then So until that happens, I'm gonna assume that it won't,

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<v Speaker 2>but also have the awareness that you know it's possible

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<v Speaker 2>anything can happen currently not and a half point favorites

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<v Speaker 2>tonight had some pushback on the text line everybody's saying

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<v Speaker 2>hammer Louisville, and maybe you're right, because I do think

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to the spread, which we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>to gambling in just a moment, not because I'm gonna,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, bore you with all of my picks. But

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<v Speaker 2>the story Pat forty broke earlier today with details as

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<v Speaker 2>far as how the Johntay Porter gambling ring made its

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<v Speaker 2>way into college basketball. Just the details of that I

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<v Speaker 2>think are interesting. But anyways, with with Louisville, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that, Like I hate saying this because it sounds

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm making a criticism or complaint. I just think

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<v Speaker 2>it's the reality of how it's played out. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think they are like they've played that they've played better

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<v Speaker 2>basketball away from the UM Center. They've also, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>blown out some teams at the UM Center. I remember

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<v Speaker 2>what they did a wake forward at the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>that game. Like they've been they've been fun as hell

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<v Speaker 2>at home and look they they've only they haven't lost

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<v Speaker 2>an ACC game at home other than to Duke. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to I don't want to in any

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<v Speaker 2>way act like they're not the same team when they

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<v Speaker 2>go on, but they just seem to play a little better.

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<v Speaker 2>They seem to make more threes on the road. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>that's not even a true thing to say. Maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, imagining that. But I'm I'm fact checking

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<v Speaker 2>somebody on the text line here because they have let's see, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you are correct. The the games that they

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<v Speaker 2>have not covered outside of the loss, the only games

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<v Speaker 2>they've noted an acc play outside of the loss to

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<v Speaker 2>Georgia Tech were three home games. They they ended up

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<v Speaker 2>beating Virginia by fourteen, spread was fourteen and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>They got the hook, they ended up only they beat

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<v Speaker 2>Miami by ten, spread was seventeen and a half. Spread

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<v Speaker 2>was thirteen and a half against Florida State and they

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<v Speaker 2>won by eight. So you know, maybe the play is

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<v Speaker 2>to hammer them on the road as favorites because they

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<v Speaker 2>usually you know, they usually win big. One spread I

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<v Speaker 2>did not understand in fact two of them. Here's what's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>They were favored by eight and a half against CINCYA State.

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<v Speaker 2>They won that game ninety one to sixty six. Only

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<v Speaker 2>favored by seven and a half against a terrible Notre

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<v Speaker 2>Dame team and won seventy five to sixty in a

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<v Speaker 2>GA where I don't even feel like they played that well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, for their standard. So I would imagine they'll

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<v Speaker 2>take care of business tonight, and if they do have

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<v Speaker 2>happened to win big, maybe it's a result that can

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<v Speaker 2>help them in the UH in the bracket. In the net, really,

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<v Speaker 2>bracketology is what I was gonna say. It's actually what

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<v Speaker 2>I meant. But the net is something that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we reference that we know the NCAA selection committee does utilize.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not the end all be all, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>a metric that they created. It's certainly flawed, but it

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<v Speaker 2>is theirs. Therefore they are going to use it. Probably

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<v Speaker 2>in fact, they will use it more than any other

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<v Speaker 2>metric out there. But for what it's worth, real quick,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I just had his Twitter page pulled up,

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<v Speaker 2>but Joel Nardi, he put out a fresh update earlier

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<v Speaker 2>this afternoon, and what I like looking at knowing that,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, you know, he's just one guy. He's not

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<v Speaker 2>on the committee.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do think.

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<v Speaker 2>When you think about bracketology, who's good, who's bad? The

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<v Speaker 2>only thing I really care about is just you know,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that is entertained by bracketology. I mean, as much

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<v Speaker 2>as I know these guys aren't the ones fielding the tournament,

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<v Speaker 2>I do look at everyone that I see out there

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<v Speaker 2>on social media just because I'm interested and I'm interested

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<v Speaker 2>to see it in. I also get a rouse seeing

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville safely in because it's been a long time coming. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that sounded bad. I just in about out a

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<v Speaker 2>five second window there, Austin, I said, I'm aroused, long

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<v Speaker 2>time coming. That just I just it's one of those

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<v Speaker 2>moments where people just turn on the radio and they

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<v Speaker 2>hear that. They're thinking, what the hell's wrong with this guy?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm so used sentenceized by it.

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<v Speaker 2>Clean it up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just you could have been dirtier.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, It's just it's just every day for me. You're

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<v Speaker 2>used to it now. But yeah, we don't want our

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<v Speaker 2>first time listeners thinking we're a bunch of white trash perp.

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean, what do we say we

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<v Speaker 4>ain't first class? That's right trash.

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<v Speaker 2>That should be like the tagline for the show.

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<v Speaker 3>I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>With credit to saw your.

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<v Speaker 4>Brown, I haven't heard that anybody outside it, outside of

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<v Speaker 4>Sawyer Brown, maybe like a Facebook post here or there,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's it's a it's a long forgotten about term

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<v Speaker 4>way to describe it when they.

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<v Speaker 2>Ask, like, sort of where we fit in the tears

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<v Speaker 2>of society. Yes we're not first class, Yes, bo we

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<v Speaker 2>ain't white trash, but we do tend we do lean

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit more on the on the on the

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<v Speaker 2>white trash side, sure, but we're not quite there, at

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<v Speaker 2>least at least we don't think we are.

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<v Speaker 4>I embrace a white trash nests the closeness to the

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<v Speaker 4>white trash spectrum of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we're getting sidetracked here, but I have to

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<v Speaker 2>say it just because it's true, Like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>what it is, because you know, I'm not I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a I don't believe that I'm like a hillbilly or

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<v Speaker 2>like a redneck. And if you are, there'sne wrong with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know I don't have any like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>not a backwoods guy. You know country songs talking about

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<v Speaker 2>dudes who you know they're targeting, that they relate to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not anything Like there was a song Justin Moore wrote, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I like Justin Moore by the way, but a song

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<v Speaker 2>he had a song titled you Can't Even Beta Hook.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty sure he wrote it about me. It's all the

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<v Speaker 2>things he's saying that you know, this guy can't do

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<v Speaker 2>because he's not a country boy. Yeah he's a sissy

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<v Speaker 2>kind of feel like it was me. Maybe you play

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<v Speaker 2>that on the next rejoint. Okay, But anyways, I find

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<v Speaker 2>myself like there's nothing like Bullet County. Fair I'd live

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<v Speaker 2>there the whole time. It's in session. Like I just

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<v Speaker 2>it's my you know, maybe I'm a poser because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't really think it's my people. I mean, it is

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<v Speaker 2>my people. I'm from Bullet County, proud obviously, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't necessarily I don't know. I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say something that I'm going to offend anybody. But

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<v Speaker 2>like there's a stigma about Bullet County that I oftentimes

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<v Speaker 2>find myself like, you know, have you seen Fairdell. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that's Jefferson County. But it's the same thing, damn it.

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<v Speaker 4>Farm life, like wide open plains, like hard work, and

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<v Speaker 3>Americans that keep this country running. Over here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>You said it better than me.

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<v Speaker 3>Blue collars or just a couple of gas bags and

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<v Speaker 3>talk on the radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like I'm not, I'm not blue collar like and

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<v Speaker 2>I you know, not that I wish I was, because

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be cut out for

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<v Speaker 3>You got brother.

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<v Speaker 2>You ever seen that TikTok? Of course, But anyways, the

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<v Speaker 2>seed lines for Lenardi he updated it today. Louisville is

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<v Speaker 2>up to a well, I think they've been it as

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<v Speaker 2>Lenardi and then twenty five overall is their seed line,

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<v Speaker 2>so Kentucky, they are still sitting as a three seed,

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<v Speaker 2>number eleven overall according to Linardi. And you know, Louisville

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<v Speaker 2>is two seeds behind Clemson and I kind of don't

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<v Speaker 2>like that. But again, they have a monster win. They

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<v Speaker 2>let's be honest, I gotta you know here, I am

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<v Speaker 2>being the homer and I try to do this to

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<v Speaker 2>like remind the audience that if you're a louis A fan,

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<v Speaker 2>think people know we're good, but they're basing it off

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<v Speaker 2>the resume and the resume. I think where we are

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<v Speaker 2>is the number twenty five overall seed. I think it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense because again, like Clemson, they have a win

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<v Speaker 2>against Kentucky and a win against Duke. Our best win

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<v Speaker 2>is against Clemson, and the second best win is your

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<v Speaker 2>best guess I don't know what it would be. So

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't mean Louisville's not a legitimately good team that

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<v Speaker 2>could go make a run. It's just you got to

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<v Speaker 2>base it off the resume, all right, So really quickly

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<v Speaker 2>the news broke, I feel like officially today this is

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<v Speaker 2>an exclusive report from Pat Forty of Sports Illustrated.

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<v Speaker 3>There have been some mention.

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<v Speaker 2>About maybe the gambling ring that took down John tay Porter,

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<v Speaker 2>and it says here in the article that Rosia is

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<v Speaker 2>still still being investigated for his involvement. I guess they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't been able to figure out, you know, if he

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<v Speaker 2>was in fact altering his line. If so, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>no no for Terry and that will end his career

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<v Speaker 2>and ruin his life to be honest with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>does say here in the article he's still under federal investigation,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's not been charged. So they were following the bets, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the same people who were clearly and held accountable. They've

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<v Speaker 2>been charged federally with telling John tay Porter what to

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<v Speaker 2>do and you know, making these wagers knowing that he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to shape points and alter his line. They

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<v Speaker 2>were betting on a lot of stuff. And sure enough,

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<v Speaker 2>they've they've now noticed that there's been a pattern. So

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<v Speaker 2>investigators flag suspicious betting patterns in at least nine different

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<v Speaker 2>college basketball games, including Temple, Eastern Michigan, and North Carolina

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<v Speaker 2>A and T. Now what I find to be interesting

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<v Speaker 2>is there is a a guy who is not that

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<v Speaker 2>he's not the guy that has been federally charged just yet,

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<v Speaker 2>at least not that I can not that I can tell.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a guy by the name, last name of

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<v Speaker 2>is it Hennan, Yeah, Shane Hennan.

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<v Speaker 3>He is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's apparently the guy who is uh is I guess

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<v Speaker 2>one of the one of the ring leaders here. So

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<v Speaker 2>we operated a sports betting business where he's basically selling picks.

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<v Speaker 2>His uh really really great website name by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>for what you're doing in your business, sugar shanewins dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that role, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>So he sold exclusive betting picks for a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 2>and his website and the social media accounts that he

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<v Speaker 2>had really showed that he was clearly a winner, because

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking luxury cars, private jets, big money, the large

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<v Speaker 2>stacks of cash. I mean, he was making it clear

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<v Speaker 2>that he's a guy that does well, so you should

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<v Speaker 2>buy his picks. But many of his bets were placed

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<v Speaker 2>on these obscure college games where sportsbooks have lower limits

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<v Speaker 2>to prevent, you know, manipulation, and his betting slips would

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<v Speaker 2>show millions wagered over years, but not all slips could

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<v Speaker 2>be like independently verified. So this guy's been betting like

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<v Speaker 2>this has probably been widespread long before gambling has been

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<v Speaker 2>legal in a lot of these states. But it also

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<v Speaker 2>linked to Johntay Porter and Roseer. Now the college stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's tough to know. I mean they haven't

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<v Speaker 2>named any players specifically, but I mean, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is not good. But again I always say

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<v Speaker 2>this when it comes to somebody getting caught, Rather it

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<v Speaker 2>be Johntay Porter, which is the worst of the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>shaving points and really putting the app salute credibility of

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<v Speaker 2>the game on the line. I mean, like that's just

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's a shameful thing for a variety of reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why they're going to make the ultimate example

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<v Speaker 2>out of you, and you're gonna go to federal prison.

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<v Speaker 2>But then there's other guys like Ridley, the receiver in

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL who didn't bet on who made small wagers,

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<v Speaker 2>not on anything about his team, he was making wagers

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<v Speaker 2>on other things, and he got suspended for an entire year.

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<v Speaker 2>So when these things happen, rather it be a mild,

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<v Speaker 2>silly kind of thing that you really don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>guy did something crazy, but he just broke a rule

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<v Speaker 2>that he knew he shouldn't break, and it's a dumb

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<v Speaker 2>thing to do because of all that you have to

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<v Speaker 2>lose in very little to gain. That's the mild version.

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<v Speaker 2>The extreme version is Johntay Porter. Anybody who had any

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<v Speaker 2>influence in sports betting becoming legal in all these states

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<v Speaker 2>across the United States knew that this would happen, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a calculated risk that you take, and what you

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<v Speaker 2>do is when it does happen, you hold somebody accountable

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<v Speaker 2>to scare others from doing it, And more than anything,

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<v Speaker 2>I think what you do is you make it clear

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<v Speaker 2>you're not gonna get away with it. We're gonna we

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<v Speaker 2>got eyes on you everywhere, like we know everything you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure people can slip through the cracks from

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<v Speaker 2>time to time, but they're always gonna get caught. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I got shut out of my account for a month

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<v Speaker 2>almost because I just crossed state lines and logged into

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<v Speaker 2>my account. They flagged that as suspicious activity and like

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<v Speaker 2>took forever to let me back in again. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's on them, and it shouldn't have taken that long

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<v Speaker 2>for me to just have this revolving door of providing

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<v Speaker 2>an ID in my name and all that. But they

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<v Speaker 2>have to take it that serious because you just have to.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know what the outcome is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a possible co conspirator along with Sugar Shane.

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<v Speaker 2>This guy's name is Marvis Fairley. He's known as v Zino,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's suspected of being kind of the middleman. He's

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<v Speaker 2>another guy that was selling picks on social media. He

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't been charged, but he has a history as a

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<v Speaker 2>bookie and a criminal record of illegal gambling. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>if in fact you know he's involved, nobody's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be shocked. But again, this guy, I mean, just this

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<v Speaker 2>is such a easy thing to potentially do. Therefore, like

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is a new type of like news

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<v Speaker 2>story and it's not good. But we have access to

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<v Speaker 2>these athletes all the time now, I mean, they probably

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<v Speaker 2>don't read every message they get. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>they would, But think about playing college basketball, not at Duke,

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<v Speaker 2>not at Kentucky, not at Louisville, not at Kansas, but

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<v Speaker 2>at Eastern Michigan, Mississippi, Valley State, North Carolina, A and

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<v Speaker 2>T even Temple. You're not making an ale money. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're smart and you want to try to maybe

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<v Speaker 2>go off the radar, go get one of those guys

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<v Speaker 2>to shape points. They'll do it because they probably are

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't say they're supid enough, but like they they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have the nil money. Again, it's still a dumb

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<v Speaker 2>thing you should not do. But they may see other

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<v Speaker 2>guys they're playing against in these by games when they

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<v Speaker 2>go on the road, and they know these guys are

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<v Speaker 2>driving six figure vehicles making big money, there's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>some jealousy and they're gonna want to they're gonna want

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<v Speaker 2>to get paid. So apparently what was let me see

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<v Speaker 2>the way they were able to Uh, I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 2>see that there was a I can't. This article is

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<v Speaker 2>it's and I encourage you to check it out. It's

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<v Speaker 2>really good work from Pat Fordy and his crew at

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<v Speaker 2>Sports Illustrated. But the way in which they caught them,

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<v Speaker 2>it was, you know, where's it at? It was just

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<v Speaker 2>in front of me. Now I can't. Yeah, So they

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<v Speaker 2>were using straw betters and proxies to get to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to to have this, I guess go undetected for as

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<v Speaker 2>long as it did. By using different associates of Sugar

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<v Speaker 2>Shane in different states, and his network avoided drawing immediate

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<v Speaker 2>attention because again we're talking about people across you know,

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<v Speaker 2>six states over logging in and there's no connection. But

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<v Speaker 2>some of these associates allegedly had criminal backgrounds and ties

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<v Speaker 2>to underground gambling operations. So if you are somebody that

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<v Speaker 2>is on the radar for again, your your criminal record

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<v Speaker 2>and you being tied to underground gambling, that obviously is

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<v Speaker 2>illegal and then they see that you have an account,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a red flag. Then they're going to see what

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<v Speaker 2>you're betting on and maybe if it's influenced, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>To me, I just don't know how anybody that does

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<v Speaker 2>this that thinks thinks that they're going to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to fully get away with it. Like, to be honest

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<v Speaker 2>with you, if you are a if you're doing what

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<v Speaker 2>this Shane guy is doing, your best bet is to

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<v Speaker 2>find a stranger in another state, Like don't don't don't

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<v Speaker 2>have a guy that's a that's you know, probably one

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<v Speaker 2>of your entourage that lives in a different state that's

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<v Speaker 2>willing to do it. But like if they got a

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<v Speaker 2>criminal record and you know they're tied to underground gambling,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a stupid person to use. Find a grandma

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<v Speaker 2>in the Ebrasca that is gonna get you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>ten percent cut if she's now again, but even that

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<v Speaker 2>would be a red flag. Like if you're making big,

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<v Speaker 2>big wagers, that alone is gonna bring attention to you,

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<v Speaker 2>regardless of if you are. If you're some college kid,

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<v Speaker 2>they're probably gonna look into you and think that either

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you're a really good gambler or maybe you're somebody

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<v Speaker 2>they put up to it. But if you are, like cause,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta put in your social Security number. So if

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<v Speaker 2>they do see that that, you know, a grandma on

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<v Speaker 2>Nebraska in her seventies is cleaning up, that's also a

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<v Speaker 2>red flag. That's not your typical client. Tele So anyways,

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<v Speaker 2>not a shock that it's made its way to college sports,

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<v Speaker 2>and they'll make examples out of these people, and it'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably happen again, but I don't think it'll ever be

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<v Speaker 2>widespread enough to where we got to worry about the

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<v Speaker 2>integrity of the game. But we'll see quick break. We

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<v Speaker 2>got thirty more minutes left here, so stick with us

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd like to think that. I think anybody can

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<v Speaker 2>never done it and just a worm. Yeah, I mean

418
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<v Speaker 2>I've never done it. I certainly couldn't and have never

419
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<v Speaker 2>skinned a buck.

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<v Speaker 4>I haven't, But I can bait. I've been told I'm

421
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<v Speaker 4>a master at doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I also do know who Jack Daniels is, though,

423
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<v Speaker 2>of course, and I I have thrown out a line,

424
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<v Speaker 2>you know, fishing before. But if I if somebody handed

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<v Speaker 2>me a fishing pole, I believe that I would be

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<v Speaker 2>able to at least, you know, get it into the water.

427
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<v Speaker 2>But I wouldn't. Also, I would also not be shocked if, like,

428
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<v Speaker 2>if i'd like hit the wrong button and it didn't

429
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<v Speaker 2>work the way it should the first time. What was

430
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<v Speaker 2>the other one?

431
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<v Speaker 3>Uh? Let me see.

432
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<v Speaker 2>He can't even bait a hook, can't even skin a buck,

433
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Jack Daniels.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and never drove a truck. I ain't ever drive.

435
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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, I've definitely uh driven a truck.

436
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<v Speaker 3>And when he.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Got three out of three out of three out of

438
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<v Speaker 4>four things, three out of five, yeah, there you go

439
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<v Speaker 4>and now here, Yeah you're right, and.

440
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<v Speaker 3>The uh the.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess. I mean, I've driven a truck, but

442
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<v Speaker 2>I've never owned one. If he means just like you've

443
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<v Speaker 2>never actually operated one, then I can say that I have.

444
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<v Speaker 2>I did. This was many years ago, back in like

445
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<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen. I ended up in a I ended up

446
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<v Speaker 2>getting in a car accident where I had to have

447
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<v Speaker 2>my car repaired and insurance got me a rental and

448
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<v Speaker 2>the only thing they had was a was a red

449
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<v Speaker 2>Ford F two fifty. Oh yes, And you know, I

450
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<v Speaker 2>got used to it for a little while, and it

451
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<v Speaker 2>felt kind of like you just I just felt like

452
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<v Speaker 2>I was just floating above everybody else. It wasn't it

453
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<v Speaker 2>wasn't easy to park. But you know, I had it

454
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<v Speaker 2>for like three weeks, but man, I got looks in

455
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<v Speaker 2>it that just you know, everybody trip, everybody thinking like,

456
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<v Speaker 2>all right, this guy's over compensating for something.

457
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<v Speaker 3>That's true.

458
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<v Speaker 2>So you know, it wasn't not doing it. It wasn't

459
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<v Speaker 2>me the truck, but uh, you know, I'm not anti truck.

460
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<v Speaker 3>But anyways, so, like, is that supposed to be like impressive?

461
00:23:05.039 --> 00:23:06.519
<v Speaker 3>Du a woman? Like home a lot?

462
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<v Speaker 4>He can, he can bait a hook, he could, he

463
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<v Speaker 4>could skin a buck? Oh my god, Oh my god.

464
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<v Speaker 4>And he drives a truck.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Ten out of ten?

466
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, is that the starter pack?

467
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<v Speaker 3>I guess?

468
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<v Speaker 4>So well, I got a question for you, mister Moore.

469
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<v Speaker 4>Can you can can you.

470
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<v Speaker 2>Uh you produce a radio show?

471
00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Can you produce a radio show?

472
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<v Speaker 4>Can you hit a three leg college basketball parlay on

473
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<v Speaker 4>a Tuesday?

474
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<v Speaker 3>About that?

475
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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

476
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<v Speaker 2>I don't even worried because he can't even hit a parlay. Yeah,

477
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<v Speaker 2>there you go, remix. Do you got you got Lamar

478
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<v Speaker 2>University to cover? Probably not back back at you, miss

479
00:23:44.559 --> 00:23:48.000
<v Speaker 2>mister Moore with your big hat. I actually met Justin

480
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<v Speaker 2>Moore a few times. He's he's came here like he

481
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<v Speaker 2>he loves the bluegrass.

482
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if he's from here, but you know

483
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<v Speaker 3>he's from Arkansas.

484
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<v Speaker 2>Okay, do you know that I've probably seen him in

485
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<v Speaker 2>concert more than you've seen anybody in concert. Really, it's

486
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<v Speaker 2>weird again I mentioned earlier, like I don't know what

487
00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:04.720
<v Speaker 2>it is, like I kind of feel like I'm a

488
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<v Speaker 2>poser and he's not really talking.

489
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<v Speaker 3>To me clearly.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Justin Moore love Justin Moore. I've seen him. I've seen

491
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<v Speaker 2>him in Kentucky a bunch because he's been here a bunch.

492
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<v Speaker 2>But I've also seen him in Cincinnati, like he was

493
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<v Speaker 2>at the fair this past year and I saw him.

494
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<v Speaker 4>So he's kind of short, little diminutive, but he has

495
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<v Speaker 4>that you call that a ten gallon, that's like a

496
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<v Speaker 4>that's a fifteen gallon.

497
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<v Speaker 2>And he is somebody that absolutely I think has been

498
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<v Speaker 2>the same artist since the first day he ever had

499
00:24:31.920 --> 00:24:35.200
<v Speaker 2>a record on the radio, and he's mainstream enough, but

500
00:24:35.240 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 2>he's never fully broke through.

501
00:24:36.799 --> 00:24:37.799
<v Speaker 3>But yes he's.

502
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<v Speaker 2>Got I'm not kidding you, man, And I'm nerding out

503
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<v Speaker 2>here a little bit on this because I you know,

504
00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the the the albums that I think that were phenomenal,

505
00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:50.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not new. But he did Justin Moore.

506
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<v Speaker 2>His first his first title, his first album was just

507
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<v Speaker 2>his Name, Justin Moore, and that I believe had his

508
00:24:56.480 --> 00:25:00.359
<v Speaker 2>breakout hit was small Town, USA, How I Got to

509
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<v Speaker 2>be this way? I could kick your ass? I mean

510
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<v Speaker 2>he had He had a song called Grandpa the Only

511
00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:08.000
<v Speaker 2>Place I Call Home. All these were radio hits. Then

512
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<v Speaker 2>he had an out Then he had a song an

513
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<v Speaker 2>album two years later called Outlaws Like Me that had

514
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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of I mean yeah. It was a number

515
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<v Speaker 2>one on the Top Country Albums.

516
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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

517
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<v Speaker 2>He had two one number one, If Heaven Wasn't So

518
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:24.039
<v Speaker 2>Far Away? And then Beta Hook was a top twenty

519
00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:28.079
<v Speaker 2>country hit, and then Till My Last Day Again It's

520
00:25:28.279 --> 00:25:30.839
<v Speaker 2>it's a it's a hot take in the country music

521
00:25:30.880 --> 00:25:34.599
<v Speaker 2>world of the twenty tens. But his first three albums,

522
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<v Speaker 2>one was his Name, Outlaws Like Me, and then Off

523
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<v Speaker 2>the Beaten Path. I don't know if if anybody's had

524
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<v Speaker 2>three straight albums that did that well in that short

525
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<v Speaker 2>amount of time. It was a little bit before that,

526
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<v Speaker 2>like it was when people still did buy CDs, but

527
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<v Speaker 2>they didn't purchase I mean, you could still do it then,

528
00:25:51.599 --> 00:25:53.920
<v Speaker 2>but like you were, you weren't listening on Spotify or

529
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<v Speaker 2>Apple Music. You were you were buying the album on iTunes.

530
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<v Speaker 3>You were playing that.

531
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you were playing that in that too, exactly when

532
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<v Speaker 4>they still had the CD players.

533
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's he's I'm a fan.

534
00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:04.400
<v Speaker 2>And it's weird when I tell you, guy, when I

535
00:26:04.400 --> 00:26:06.519
<v Speaker 2>tell people how much I am a fan of him

536
00:26:06.559 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 2>and I've seen him a bunch, like they look like

537
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<v Speaker 2>what they don't They don't, they don't connect the two.

538
00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:13.759
<v Speaker 2>But I'm just telling you I'm a big justin more guy.

539
00:26:13.799 --> 00:26:16.640
<v Speaker 4>And it may sound silly because obviously like Dub, but

540
00:26:16.680 --> 00:26:19.359
<v Speaker 4>like when you talk to him, like he has he

541
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<v Speaker 4>has that same exact like deep accent, that deep country

542
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<v Speaker 4>is very authentic.

543
00:26:24.079 --> 00:26:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Yes, very much so, like he's there's a lot of

544
00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:28.880
<v Speaker 2>guys on big in the industry now that may be authentic,

545
00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 2>but they don't seem like it. Yeah, you know what

546
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<v Speaker 2>I mean like he's probably now if he was to

547
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<v Speaker 2>sing that song, he probably, if he was being honest,

548
00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.000
<v Speaker 2>would take a shot at somebody that's like mainstream. Yeah,

549
00:26:39.480 --> 00:26:42.319
<v Speaker 2>like a Bailey Zimmerman. Yeah, of course, somebody like that

550
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<v Speaker 2>in the Pretty Boy.

551
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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Bailey Bailey Zimmerman just sound Billy Zimmerman sounds like

553
00:26:46.519 --> 00:26:48.240
<v Speaker 2>a woman, to be honest with you. Yeah, he's like

554
00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:50.920
<v Speaker 2>a gender neutral name, is it not.

555
00:26:51.279 --> 00:26:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Well, Tony and DWIGHTE say they don't see gender Yeah, exactly.

556
00:26:55.119 --> 00:26:59.480
<v Speaker 4>It's like Bailey Zimmerman's like a wanna be like Morgan

557
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<v Speaker 4>wall And I think he's gonna get there because radio's

558
00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.960
<v Speaker 4>pushing him like crazy, but he's being an off brand.

559
00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Morgan Wallen would work this day and he's so popular,

560
00:27:07.680 --> 00:27:10.200
<v Speaker 2>Like it works. You can eat his crumbs and be

561
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:12.440
<v Speaker 2>living large because that's how big he is right now.

562
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:14.200
<v Speaker 3>Just don't throw chairs off the balcony.

563
00:27:14.240 --> 00:27:17.599
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Dwight and Tony. I was listening to those

564
00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:20.920
<v Speaker 2>guys yesterday, the trio Dwight, Tony and Dave, and they're

565
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.119
<v Speaker 2>a hoot. I mean every now and then, like and

566
00:27:24.319 --> 00:27:28.599
<v Speaker 2>it's Dave Jennings, Dave Jennings has a gift that if

567
00:27:28.599 --> 00:27:31.079
<v Speaker 2>you've listened to this show or this station, I should

568
00:27:31.119 --> 00:27:33.960
<v Speaker 2>say long enough, you heard him on with Joeby and Denny.

569
00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.000
<v Speaker 2>He was the quarterback essentially of that show. He was

570
00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 2>the guy who you know, hosted it, and he's let

571
00:27:38.119 --> 00:27:41.000
<v Speaker 2>those guys tell stories and he would make a wise

572
00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:44.440
<v Speaker 2>remark or just a one liner that would go right

573
00:27:44.480 --> 00:27:47.279
<v Speaker 2>over Joe and Denny's head, but the audience got it,

574
00:27:47.279 --> 00:27:49.799
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, and his timing and his

575
00:27:50.000 --> 00:27:51.640
<v Speaker 2>subtle like and he did it with the dog after

576
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.960
<v Speaker 2>an underdogs for years. I mean, he's just he's got

577
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.759
<v Speaker 2>a gift of the perfect one liner. He knows he

578
00:27:56.799 --> 00:28:00.519
<v Speaker 2>picks his spots. Well, yeah, and they were talking about Hooters,

579
00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.119
<v Speaker 2>the restaurant kind of going to they're going back to

580
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:05.880
<v Speaker 2>the drawing board as far as not rebranding totally, but

581
00:28:06.000 --> 00:28:08.359
<v Speaker 2>trying to figure out why they're not reaching the the

582
00:28:08.440 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 2>younger demo anymore. And Venetti had actually the best line

583
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.039
<v Speaker 2>that was just the truth, the Internet ruined Hooters. The

584
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Internet doesn't need you to go at Hooters and just

585
00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:20.480
<v Speaker 2>imagine that they're not wearing clothes, you know what I'm saying.

586
00:28:20.839 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 2>So that's I mean, that's a valid point, is it not.

587
00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I told Venetti I texted him when he said it

588
00:28:25.000 --> 00:28:26.680
<v Speaker 2>the Internet ruined Hooters, I said, put her on a

589
00:28:26.680 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 2>T shirt like or you know, create the Netflix documentary.

590
00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>But they were talking about how I mean again like

591
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 2>Dave and Tony are I'm sorry, Dwight and Tony are

592
00:28:38.160 --> 00:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>doing their thing, but also kind of actually talking about

593
00:28:40.440 --> 00:28:43.640
<v Speaker 2>the story that is the business struggling, and Dave jump.

594
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Dave just chimed in with the Dixie Highway and the

595
00:28:47.519 --> 00:28:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Clarksville locations closed not that long ago at Hooters, and

596
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Dave mentioned, yeah, heard the sales really sagging there and

597
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.079
<v Speaker 2>it's just the timing of it. And then and then

598
00:28:58.119 --> 00:29:00.559
<v Speaker 2>they were talking about like the specific detail is about

599
00:29:00.599 --> 00:29:04.480
<v Speaker 2>what what like would be the right move, and he

600
00:29:04.839 --> 00:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>did some kind of a work around to where he

601
00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 2>mentioned he doesn't know the specific details, but then he

602
00:29:09.319 --> 00:29:12.400
<v Speaker 2>said maybe that's just tit for tat and I'm just like, Dave,

603
00:29:12.519 --> 00:29:18.319
<v Speaker 2>you're you're a legend, my man, like, Yeah, it is.

604
00:29:18.279 --> 00:29:19.640
<v Speaker 3>One of my favorite parts of the show.

605
00:29:19.680 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 4>I just love listening because first of all, that's an

606
00:29:21.680 --> 00:29:24.160
<v Speaker 4>iheartstation and it's fun to wake up to. But those

607
00:29:24.279 --> 00:29:26.519
<v Speaker 4>guys half the time don't give an f anyone.

608
00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:29.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, you grew up listening to those guys like I did. Yeah, exactly,

609
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>and now here we are, look at us. Look who

610
00:29:31.799 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 2>thought we get to claim that we're friends with him?

611
00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:34.759
<v Speaker 2>We worked together.

612
00:29:36.319 --> 00:29:37.359
<v Speaker 3>I've always wanted to be.

613
00:29:37.400 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 2>And maybe I just picked up on it. But like

614
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:44.160
<v Speaker 2>Tony and it Tony, it is Tony. Tony's birthday was yesterday. Sorry,

615
00:29:44.319 --> 00:29:46.720
<v Speaker 2>maybe if I'm gonna gass him up and and feed

616
00:29:46.720 --> 00:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>his ego a little bit more, maybe now it's the

617
00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:50.079
<v Speaker 2>time to do it, since we're so close to his birthday.

618
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.279
<v Speaker 2>It was just yesterday. But they without really me thinking

619
00:29:53.279 --> 00:29:55.559
<v Speaker 2>about it, made me realize that this is this is

620
00:29:55.599 --> 00:29:57.319
<v Speaker 2>not supposed to like, this is supposed to be entertaining,

621
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<v Speaker 2>and I hate you know, sounding I hate so and like,

622
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:03.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, like I'm so funny, I'm so entertaining. But

623
00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>that is the goal is to try to entertain you

624
00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:08.039
<v Speaker 2>in some way, and it's not about doing stand up comedy.

625
00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:10.880
<v Speaker 2>But those two guys specifically is spent with the dogs,

626
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:15.119
<v Speaker 2>especially Dave. Dave without knowing it, without me knowing it,

627
00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:17.839
<v Speaker 2>I should say, made it quite clear for me when

628
00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>it comes to like humor and talk radio you have

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<v Speaker 2>a one thousand percent better chance of the audience listeners

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<v Speaker 2>thinking something you said was remotely humorous or funny.

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<v Speaker 3>If you don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Laugh, Dave will throw in a liner and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same delivery as everything he says. Right, Yes, like when

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<v Speaker 2>you laugh at yourself collectively, like and you're just yucking

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<v Speaker 2>it up like a bunch of jokesters like one. Fake

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<v Speaker 2>laughs are really easy to pick up on. I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's almost like a scream that you don't think

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<v Speaker 2>anybody else is gonna think it's funny, so you're laughing

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<v Speaker 2>like it's right. It's so forced and cringe And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna sound awful when I say this, but I really

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<v Speaker 2>don't enjoy a lot of what this is elsewhere. And

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<v Speaker 2>not to say that I have the best show, clearly

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. There's a lot of people, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people more successful than me, but like there's just

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<v Speaker 2>little things that more than anything, it's just the acquired

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<v Speaker 2>taste that you have. And what I mean by that

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<v Speaker 2>is like, you know, I like a certain style of

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<v Speaker 2>show that probably I mean in fact, the shows that

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<v Speaker 2>are that are tabbed as the most successful talk shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Rather it be local markets or national, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>really my cup of tea because I like to more

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<v Speaker 2>so be entertained than just talk you know, numbers and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's have some fun. Like for example,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a guy named Steve Zaban, a guy who is

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<v Speaker 2>still around. He does a national show and I think

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<v Speaker 2>he's actually doing a local show in either DC or

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<v Speaker 2>Milwaukee now. But like he to me is hilarious, but

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<v Speaker 2>like he's he's not a I mean he's not he's

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<v Speaker 2>not he's not rich Eyes and he's not Damn Patrick

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<v Speaker 2>or anything like that. Like Jim Rome. Jim Rome. I

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<v Speaker 2>understand why he's not everybody's cup of tea, and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't often think like he's like the funniest dude ever.

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<v Speaker 2>But man, that was entertaining. That was a show that

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't just talking sports.

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<v Speaker 3>That was his show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean Jim Rome. I mean I was a

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<v Speaker 2>clone for a long time, and I guess I still am.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's not on the market anymore. And I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even know he recently took his show to It might

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<v Speaker 2>be he left Premiere. I don't know where he is.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyways, there's a random way for us to just

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<v Speaker 2>give a shout out to the legends. That's right, Tony,

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<v Speaker 2>Dave and Dwight. All right, let's get a quick break

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<v Speaker 2>out of the way. We'll come back and wrap this

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<v Speaker 2>thing up with some finishing thoughts as we get said

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<v Speaker 2>for tonight to match up Louisville and Virginia Tech.

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<v Speaker 3>What are they the Hokies.

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<v Speaker 2>Hokies, Yeah, stupid maskcot stick around right here on Sports

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<v Speaker 2>Talk seven ninety.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to coffee and Company fueled by Thornton's on

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we have very little time left and we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to the game really quickly. Just a second, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do want to give a shout out to whoever

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<v Speaker 2>it was that made the phenomenal creative decision. So Luka

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<v Speaker 2>Doncic is making his debut tonight in Dallas as a

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<v Speaker 2>non Maverick. He will be playing Actually is this in La.

688
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<v Speaker 2>It's in La. But anyways, Luca's returning to well you're

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<v Speaker 2>not returning, but he's playing his old team tonight. And

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<v Speaker 2>this trade just happened not that long ago, and obviously you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, been a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's a Jordan brand athlete, one of many in

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA, and they put a thirty second commercial. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure if it's gonna be on television, if for

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<v Speaker 2>just the digital thing, but it is a Jordan Brand

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<v Speaker 2>ad for Luka Doncik and he is walking to the

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<v Speaker 2>back of his purple and yellow looks like a Lamborghini

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<v Speaker 2>putting a California license played on it with the number

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<v Speaker 2>seventy seven and the song playing. We've been talking country music, right,

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<v Speaker 2>George Strait, All my exes live in Texas. Oh so

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<v Speaker 2>simple but yet well done, right, brilliant. Whoever did that?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it wasn't like it was the craziest thing

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<v Speaker 2>to come up with, but man, it's perfect, Like sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to overthink it like that just works.

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<v Speaker 2>Really love creative marketing. I'm a nerd for that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. All right tonight, Louisville Virginia Tech.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you're not worried, are you?

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<v Speaker 2>Host?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, as long as you're not worried, I'm not worried,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>And I've reiterated this anytime we talk about games like

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<v Speaker 2>this with Louisville, until they show me that they could

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<v Speaker 2>be prone to falling asleep at the wheel against a

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<v Speaker 2>team that you know, is not nearly as good as

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<v Speaker 2>them that they're expected to beat. And I don't meet

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<v Speaker 2>like they have lapses in games. But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's because they've become complacent. I think it's just because

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<v Speaker 2>they aren't perfect and also it's part of part of basketball.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, what's Virginia Tech record?

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<v Speaker 1>Overall?

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<v Speaker 2>They're twelve and fifteen, and in conference play there's seven

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<v Speaker 2>and nine. They don't have a win to speak of.

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<v Speaker 2>Their best win has got to be their win against

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's probably their win against Virginia when they

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<v Speaker 2>beat them by one at their place. So not worried, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they're they're they're not good.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>Technically, when it comes to the standings, the worst teams

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<v Speaker 2>in the league are and really they're by themselves. It's

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<v Speaker 2>Boston Collegency State in Miami. And then you've got the

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<v Speaker 2>I guess sucky tier but not as bad as the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>which is QSE California, Notre Dame, Virginia. And then you've

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<v Speaker 2>got the slightly above that tier but still they suck

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<v Speaker 2>is Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech, and Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh should be better,

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<v Speaker 2>but they fallen apart that job should open up to

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<v Speaker 2>by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>It should.

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<v Speaker 2>It won't, but it should. All right, we're out of time.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy the game, everybody.

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<v Speaker 3>Again.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a nine o'clock tip, so we'll probably be up

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<v Speaker 2>later than we need to be. But if it's a

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<v Speaker 2>Louisville win, I'm gonna consider it a good night, and

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<v Speaker 2>it should be a louisl win. Take everybody,