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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Christina and Carmen and this is another

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episode of Spooky Tales. No, no, it's another episode of

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the Spooky Taels book Club. Finally, it's been a while.

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We did specify that it's a book club for busy people,

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even though I devoured this book back in February of

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this year. February, yeah, fabo, and it is now agosto.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it took me months. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Also when I released this, I think it's going to

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be our birthday week.

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Speaker 2: Really, oh yeah, because there's like a two in between.

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Speaker 1: We're yeah, we're a little head on schedule, so we

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are for this for once, we're ahead of schedule. So

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this comes out Fridays of the twenty third. Oh okay, Thursday,

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it's the twenty second.

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Speaker 2: Is our birthday?

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Speaker 1: The next day comes out? Should we sing the song

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las Man Yanni?

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Speaker 2: You're right, we should it. You're right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, No, you're right, you're right. We're not gonna see,

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but yeah, happy birthday to us. I'm sure we had

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a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: We are the big thirty this year. Yeah, sure, we'll

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go with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure we had a blast because I would have

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visited you, right, I'm already looking forward to the next

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time we see each other at this point. Yes, yeah,

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so we'll see. We'll see how that goes. We're gonna

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have a little barbecue at Carmen's house. Yeah, so I'm

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sure it was great. All right, So let's get started

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with the episode where we are talked about The Vampires

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of El Norte, which was our book club book for

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months and months and months. It is written by Isabel Kaanas,

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who we love. Yes, we did the SCND already with

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Aiden and that was so much fun. It was, and

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so the way these episodes were because at first we

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give a non spoiler summary that is the one on

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the book, the back of the book. Then we get

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into a recap of the book, and throughout that just

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kind of highlighting parts we liked, what we like, you know,

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if you have any highlighted notes of like, oh the

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writing here was amazing, you know, things like that. Then

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at the end of the recap we have a the

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discussion portion of the book club episode where we have questions.

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And luckily this book came with questions already that exist,

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so that's fun. I did not look at the questions beforehand,

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so all these my answers are going to be like

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on the spot, I didn't look at the questions either.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I have some answers from listeners. Okay,

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answer these questions. Yeah, so that'll be fun. And I'm

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also going to ask you who you casted as the movie?

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Who you so, oh my god, I don't remember anyone ever.

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But these are okay, they're like youngers I have to

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think of, like younger actors.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll do that at the end. Though.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's go all right, so here is the summary. Wait,

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but we should do it after this summary because we're

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going to be talking.

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Speaker 2: About them and I feel like we are going to

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be picturing them.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so here's the like non spoiler spoiler free summary

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that just you know it's from the book. So vampires

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and vachedos face off on the Texas Mexico border in

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the supernatural western from the author of the Ascienda. As

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the daughter of a rancher in eighteen forties Mexico, Nena

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knows a thing or two about monsters. Her home has

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been long threatened by tensions with Anglo settlers from the north,

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but something more sinister lurks near the ranch at night,

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something that drains men of their blood and leaves them

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for dead, something that once attacked Nena nine years ago.

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Believing Nena dead, Nestor has been on the run from

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his grief ever since, moving ranch to ranch, working as

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a vacuero. But no amount of drink can dispel the

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night terrors of sharp teeth, no woman can erase his

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childhoods sweetheart from his mind. When the United States attacks

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Mexico in eighteen forty six, the two are brought abruptly

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together on the road to war, Nena as a curandera,

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a healer, striving to prove her worth to her father

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so that he does not marry her off to a stranger,

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and Nestor a member of the auxiliary cavalry of franchiers

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and vaccaros.

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Speaker 2: But the shock of their.

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Speaker 1: Reunion and then ask rage and nest out for seemingly

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abandoning her long ago. It's quickly overshadowed by the appearance

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of a nightmare made flesh, and Unless and Then and

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Nesto to work together through their past and face the

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future together, neither will survive to see the dawn.

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Speaker 2: Beautiful stuff, Yes, yes, okay, So who did you cast

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Speaker 1: Twenties, like they're like twenty three, twenty two, okay, early twenties. Yeah,

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I feel like I only know so many young actors,

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early twenties actors, you can say, like a younger version

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of someone else too, I know, but I like don't

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remember any actors ever. I cerdainly forgot all the actors

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my head right now is the girl that played Dora,

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but like she's a little bit older.

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Speaker 2: Now, who is that? Even? Let me see?

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it's beel something. Okay, she's twenty three, Okay, okay, I

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could see it. Yeah, we'll put a picture here. Well,

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about this while I was reading it. Yeah, I see it, okay, okay, yes, yeah, yeah,

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away too long to say this, Oh my god, I'm sorry.

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would have said that that was taking a normal amount

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of time.

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Speaker 2: That was not a normal amount of time.

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, since you're still thinking of it, I kind

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of pictured the guy who is on my block, the

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cute one. I was thinking this guy, hold on, he's

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for I think my casting.

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Speaker 2: Is better, you know what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go with that. Okay, my casting winds all right,

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you're yeah, you're casting. You're better at this, obviously, And

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this is why I'm not a caster. You know, I

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would just cast everyone in the in the wrong roles,

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right right. Let us know who you thought of as well,

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because I love to know what people pictured me too

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in their mind's eye, you know. I guess some people

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don't do this, but I'm reading and it's a movie

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in my head full on me sometimes not all the time, me,

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that fight at the end. Yeah, I was picturing that,

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all right. Well, yeah, let's start off with the recap. Then,

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so right off the bat, the first thing I want

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to point out is that the book follows two perspectives,

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much like the SCNA, where in the SCNDA we have

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the two main characters, right, you know, we switch back

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and forth.

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Speaker 2: Padre andreas we love and I already forgot her name

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because I love to, because we have internal.

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Speaker 1: It's because because I loved mother than this I met

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loved him. If you you were, just if you could

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Speaker 2: It, then we can move on.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Okay, fine, fine, okay, fine, okay, I

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wanted to hear. I don't remember her name either, because

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whole time, and I was mad that they didn't end

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up together. Yeah, so just like that, we have two perspectives.

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the alteratation name.

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Speaker 2: Yeah me too.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't too much for me. No, I love it.

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couple like that, and I would that's so cute. Okay,

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I was gonna say, but in real.

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Speaker 2: Life, how do you feel about it? I always think

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it's weird. No, I love it.

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and sister that I could see, But maybe I just

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Speaker 2: Because we're so right now. Yeah, you never know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like we had to be siblings all throughout

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time and all through and every every single Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had to say. That would be very fun, wouldn't it.

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Maybe even cousins. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, whatever, let's move on. It's weird when it's not siblings. Actually, yeah,

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siblings all all out, even not only twins, just siblings

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in general. That's fine. Elevation names, okay, but a couple

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the three draw the line. That's where you draw the line.

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Speaker 1: So you don't like Nana Nestory in real life. In

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the book, I like it because also that's her nickname.

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real name is Magdalena, right in real.

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Speaker 2: Life, I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: I don't like it all right, So, yeah, we have

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each of their perspectives. And the book starts out with

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Nana in eighteen thirty seven when they are both thirteen.

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that she's the daughter of anessen Dado and obviously this

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in that and she is the daughter of the ass

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same plane field level, right, Yes, it's.

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Speaker 2: A more broo right away.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, we love. We didn't never say that word,

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right am. It's because when I say a fast I

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don't emphasize the middle. I just say all in one,

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you say, like bro wido. Yes that's what he said. Girls, Okay,

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can't just ignore because you know. Yeah, yeah, so, yes,

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she doesn't know it yet, but Nesto is the love

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he knows it, you know, but she does not. Yeah,

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she's like, that's my really good friend that I cannot

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live with that we're together to twenty four seven, and

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Speaker 2: About it all the time. But we're just friends.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we've practiced kissine, but not anything serious. And he's like,

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I am going to buy basil land for us to

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live on forever together. So right away he's more serious

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about this and she just she doesn't know it, but

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she is too.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So he's the son of a ranchero, so a worker

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on the SCN that. So we know that they cannot

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be together because of these you know, differences. We also

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because there's talk of like the Anglows, but it's still.

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Speaker 2: All very like service level. There's nothing going on yet.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ala, which is Nestor's aguela, but everyone calls tells

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them scary stories about El Cuco, which is like a

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coco or cucui.

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Speaker 2: Right, really quick? Did you love the beginning and inscription?

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I don't know what you call it? Yeah? Should we

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read it? Yes? I love that. Yeah? Who didn't hear that?

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Speaker 1: Right as a child, Like I've said before on the podcast,

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because we've talked Aboutkukui or goco. But Babby, our father

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loves singing that to my children. Yeah, and ever since

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they are little, teeny tiny babies, they just laugh. He's

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like Comera and then he fake eats them and they're like, oh,

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little nursery rhyme, but basically you have to sleep whether

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the big man's going to come eat you, right, And

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that is a loving rhyming song that we sing to

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our babies and what I tells them about these stories.

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And then we also learned Nana's older brother is of

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marrying age. They're talking about who he's you know, Gonnaharry.

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alliances at this point between like you know, the wealthy essandallos.

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They can't just marry anyone. Nana, she will be facing

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a similar feature. She's just not old enough yet. She's

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only thirteen. Yeah, so she knows what lies ahead.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think at this point her and Nestor want

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to believe it or you know, address it.

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Speaker 2: They're in denial about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they can be they're thirteen still, but it's

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getting into an age where they they're starting to be

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separated from their family members, Like you can't spend that

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much time with necessarily more you. You know, you have

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to act this way you And Nana doesn't understand. She's

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like why why, And so they sneak away together at night.

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Nesto has this plan that he's gonna find gold and

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build a house for them near Losouelos, and it's going

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to be his own land and they're going to be

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together and you know this is going to be their land.

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Speaker 2: But they're going to build their house.

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Speaker 1: But he needs gold, and there's these stories and legends

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of gold in somewhere like in this land that they

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have to dig up. And this is a real legend

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that's all all over Latin America where you can find gold.

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Sometimes there's like, oh, if you see Boss of Fire here,

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that's where the gold is. But the legends are scarier

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because it's like you have to dig the gold well,

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like when we're the like telling you I saw like

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a dead person's next to you, telling you like dig digg,

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Like that's horrifying, and all the stories and with no

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one finding the gold and the person turns like loses

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their mind before they finish the game. Yeah, horrifying, although

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iould I would try it. So, yeah, Nestor, you know,

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he wants to find some of this gold, and he

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finds a spot where he thinks this is where the

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gold is, like I saw like a glimpse of it

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or something like a sign. Doesn't he seem like a

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glittering like a shiny thing. That's why he thinks it's there.

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But we learned later it's not what he thought he saw. Yeah, yeah,

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and we learned right away. Yeah, like in the next

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sentence started fast. Yeah, so I could not believe it

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when I was reading at first page, second page, third Yeah.

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So yeah, nest starts sticking because he wants gold so

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they can have a home together, and she doesn't know it,

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but she's just there because they're always finding time to

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be together, so he's digging away. They're talking about never

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leaving each other and that they're always going to be

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by each other's side.

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Speaker 2: Then out of nowhere, Nana starts feeling a little uneasy.

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Speaker 1: She starts telling nest Od maybe we should head back,

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but she doesn't get to finish the sentence. She says,

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I think, And then suddenly something pouncess on her and

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seeks sinks its teeth into her. And this is chapter one, yeah,

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because we start out with her perspective and so then

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she gets attacked and all they say really is like

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a flash of teeth in the darkness. And then we

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go to Nestor's perspective, and it starts out with him like,

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you know, running towards Nana, trying to figure out what

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happened to her.

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is what I wanted this.

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Speaker 1: I thought this was like, it just shows how important

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Nana was to him. So after she gets attacked and

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he's running towards her to try and like stop this creature.

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Nana was his home, the one thing on earth more

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precious to him than his own life. Whatever that creature was,

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it did not matter. The only thing that mattered was

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getting it away from her. Beautiful, beautiful, And yeah, so

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he's like he starts fighting this thing, no matter how

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scared he is, because this is the thing they had

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not seen before, some sort of evil, disgusting creature, and

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he is fighting it to try and save Nana, and

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he does eventually, you know, get it away. So he

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does manage to. I think he uses like a shovel

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to like chop its head off or something. Eventually he

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does manage to you know, kill it, but it already

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seems like it's too late. Like Nena is life less. Yeah,

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seems lifeless. I almost cried when he was like Nita, Yeah,

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she's limp, unconscious in her neck looks like it's in

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terrible shape. So he carries her all the way back

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to Los a Cuellos, to La Casa Major, which is

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her house. He pounds on the door, screaming for help

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and don't Feliciano. Her father answers the door. He brings

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her inside and sets her on the table, and Nana

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is cold, lifeless, like, she looks dead. And her father

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immediately turns to Nestod points at him and just yells,

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boy like such a my horrifying like thing to be

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addressed angrily, you know, amazing. Yeah, And so Nestod, you know,

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having lost his bff. Yes it's his half orange, he

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backs away and he books it. He just he runs,

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He runs and runs, and he does not looked back.

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He runs west and just yeah, he's gone. I don't

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blame him, I don't blame him, right, because he was

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going to be blamed for this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and who would believe that a creature attacked her? Right?

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Speaker 1: So then we jump nine years, and if you didn't

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read the summary of the book beforehand, you also would

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have thought she was dead. But no, you know, we

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know she's alive. So we jump forward nine years. He's

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now twenty two and he is a vacchtto. But he's

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not like just any vaccio. He's a freelance vakhetto. He

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belongs to no one, no contractual obligations for Nesto, and

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so he goes from ascienda to acienda for work. He's

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also an alcoholic and a womanizer. So a typical Mexican man, right, right,

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nothing different about him. No, not in the sense that

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he's like purposely looking for a woman to her, but

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he's trying to feel a void. He you know, he

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still thinks about Nana, that was the love of his life,

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and so he's just trying to fill a void. So

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there's one ascienda widow that he hooks up, hooks up

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with more often than everyone else, every other woman. He

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stays with her, he does work for her, and then

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he also has one friend named Meto and he is

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not Mexican.

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Speaker 2: I thought he was half. For a second, I thought

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he was full white. And he married a Mexican woman,

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you know, like his mom or dad, like one of

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them is right. Okay, I take that back.

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Speaker 1: He's half Mexican half right, But he was raised in

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like the US side, basically like not Mexico. He wasn't

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raised in Mexico. No, I don't think so. But he

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knows Spanish, he learned Spanish. Yeah, And now Nestor, he

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lives for one thing and one thing only. He is

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working toward the goal of having enough money to own

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his own land that is his So this is the

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only thing that he lives for. The one thing that

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he lived for before is gone. Yeah, as far as

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he knows, She's really not. Because then we go to Nna,

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who's as fully alive, yeah, fully alive, just you know,

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living her life in Los Uelos. She has been training

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with Abuela to become a curandera, a healer. When we

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go back to her, we see that she's called to

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help someone that's suffering from susto, a sickness or ailment

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that is, you're sick from fright, like you are so

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scared that you become sick. So she has to call

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his spirit back, and I just love how that's done

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in the book, Like she has to know their real

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name and she has to be like, come back to us,

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come back to us, and I just I love the

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way they did that. And she's successful, she's clearly good

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at healing, but Abila and throughout the book tells her

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like something is hotly in her back, something where she's

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not able to like fully whenever her cheese is blocked

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like an avatar. Yeah, exactly like that, and we know

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now that it's because of Nesto, but she doesn't know that.

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Right then, we learned that Susto is going around Los

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Juelos and the nearby siendas. It's a sousto epidemic, Susto pandemic,

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Susto demic, souths deemic. No, okay, yeah, it's something that

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is affecting the Vaccaros frequently, but we don't know why. Okay, sorry,

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you're just you're gonna hear my children.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: So the man that she healed his name as Ignacio,

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and he seems to have a similar scard to hers,

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and she starts wondering about what happened to her because

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she doesn't know, She has no idea, She doesn't remember

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the attack at all. Nobody tells her like you almost died,

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you came back like yeah, she doesn't like remember the

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incident or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And also no one talks about it. Yeah, but I'm

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not surprised. That's a very very Mexican thing to do.

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I think shove it under the rug, yeah, And they're like, oh,

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you just you have to move past it. You can't

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be stuck in the past. We also learned that the

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Anglos or the Yankees have declared that everything from the

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Nueces to the Rio Bravo is there. And in case

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anyone didn't figure it out, at this point, this is

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the Mexican American War. The Texans are like, this is

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all ours, This like Mexico, this is takes It's exactly

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like that. That's actually how they declared war. No, and

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we I think, no, now that this war had a

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lot to do with, you know, a lot of different things.

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So the US invaded Mexico in eighteen forty six. And

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if there's one thing Isabel is going to do is

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set her novel during historic event and then teach us

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a little bit about it. I love love, love historical

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fiction me too, and I love that it's not like

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the main, right, It's not like the main Like the

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John is not historical fiction. The genre, I guess it's horror,

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but it's like a horror romance historical fiction. Yes, yes,

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and we're not We're not talking about like, you know,

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the president of Mexico during this time. We're just talking

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about these two young adults and this is going on

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around them and affecting their lives. Yeah, her and Silvia,

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I both do this experts at this. Yes, Okay, So

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the lands Na's family's land is being threatened. But also

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this I think this goes without saying, but like to

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call it their land, it's also it wasn't it wasn't

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their land to begin with, its indigenous land, right, so

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you know that's another like hola layer. Yeah, so their

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land is being threatened as well as the nearby lands

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of other Acienda has branches, including where Nestor and Beto

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currently find themselves. And so he's worried about his home

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and his family, and he decides to travel back to

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Los Alos, and Beto, his other BFF, goes with him

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because he has family in Matamoros, which is not that

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far from there.

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Speaker 2: So they write off, and as.

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Speaker 1: He's going, Nestor thinks about all the people he's left behind,

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the people that he run away from. And when they

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get to Los Cuelos, he sees his family, but then

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he sees someone else, someone who looks so familiar, someone

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who he thought was dead for nine years. Imagine thinking that,

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I'm just like, yeah, back then, there's no way of knowing, right,

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Like he saw her dead, yeah, and then here he

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is nine years later and she's very much alive, talking

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to like one of his cousins or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, He's like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 1: Yes, And this is the one thing he has built

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his new life upon, the emptiness in his life. His

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identity is built on this. So now he's like questioning, like,

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who even am I? What have I done for the

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past what? Nine years?

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Speaker 2: Nine years? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like what did he even run away for? He built

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his life around escaping her death and there she was breathing,

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as we speak, very much not dead. So then we

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go to NNA, And when we switched from that chapter

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of Nestor to NNA, it starts a little before Nestor's

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arrival she's worried about the Yankees, what's gonna happen, not

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to mention her parents talking about marrying her off to

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some Assendelo's son that she doesn't even know. So she's

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sitting there knitting all like angry, and then she sees

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Nestalk and she's like, what the fuck okay, because she's

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mad at him, very because she doesn't know why he left.

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She doesn't remember that she almost died, so she doesn't

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even like, she doesn't make the connection that he might

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think she's dead and he might be escaping, you know that.

466
00:22:35,559 --> 00:22:38,559
Like to her, he just up and left with no explanation,

467
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,759
no reason, nothing, after literally saying no, We're never I'm

468
00:22:41,759 --> 00:22:43,440
never going to leave you, yeah, like because that's what

469
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480
they were talking about before she got attacked. So she

470
00:22:45,559 --> 00:22:48,720
remembers being attacked, but she doesn't remember like being basically

471
00:22:48,759 --> 00:22:50,000
dead and then coming.

472
00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:50,799
Speaker 2: Back to life or whatever.

473
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,559
Speaker 1: Like she vaguely, very vaguely remembers that the attack happened,

474
00:22:54,839 --> 00:22:57,640
that she knows something happened to her, and then after

475
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,720
that happened, Nestor is not there anymore either, but she

476
00:23:00,759 --> 00:23:03,359
doesn't know, like she was bitten in the neck or

477
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,880
she it was a creature that they didn't like, Like

478
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,720
she like blocked out what it looked like. So, yeah,

479
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,599
there's the Bessie that abandoned.

480
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,279
Speaker 2: Her nine years ago. Yep, just shows up out of nowhere.

481
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 1: She sees him, and then she thinks back and we

482
00:23:16,279 --> 00:23:19,559
get like a little flashback of like younger Nana asking

483
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:21,599
like is that letter from Nestlo And I'm like, oh

484
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,160
my god, that's so sad. Can you just picture her? Yeah,

485
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,119
that was sad, continuous like is that letter? Like, no,

486
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,480
shut the fuck up, there's no letters from Nestlood, Like

487
00:23:29,519 --> 00:23:33,200
I feel bad for her. Yeah, oh so yeah, it's sad.

488
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,359
It's very sad throughout the book. I was like, oh

489
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,079
my god, forgive him already. But I understand also like

490
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:42,799
why she couldn't right, Yeah, same. So Neslud walks up

491
00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:45,000
to her and asks if he can have a word

492
00:23:45,039 --> 00:23:47,240
with her whoever sitting next to her. She's like, tell him,

493
00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:50,319
I've gone to bed already. She's like right in front

494
00:23:50,319 --> 00:23:50,559
of him.

495
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:51,519
Speaker 2: I love it.

496
00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it's like a cousin of hers.

497
00:23:53,599 --> 00:23:56,000
I think it's her cousin. She doesn't hang out with

498
00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:59,480
his cousins because they're not the same on the same level.

499
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they can't hang out, right.

500
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 1: She is close with everyone or whatever, you know, Like

501
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,319
she's not rude, She's like has relationships with everyone on

502
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,160
us in that but like as far as like now

503
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,960
with people her family.

504
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:13,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.

505
00:24:13,519 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: So she refuses to see Nestor, and then we go

506
00:24:15,519 --> 00:24:18,839
back to Nestor's perspective. He's in his family's home drinking

507
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,759
and a Willa walks up to him and asks, like,

508
00:24:20,759 --> 00:24:22,720
you know, what's wrong, and he just says, Nina, she

509
00:24:22,759 --> 00:24:25,079
figures that, and then she asks him if Nana was

510
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,680
angry to see him. He tells her like she died.

511
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,519
I carried her to like a Mayo and she had died.

512
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:33,400
And then finally all tells him that on that night

513
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:35,880
she was called to Le Mayo and that Nana had

514
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,359
been poisoned by whatever bit her and she saved Nna.

515
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,799
Then she says, like, you know what happened, Like what

516
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,880
happened on that night? He says he doesn't know that

517
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,119
it was too dark to see what was her. Yeah,

518
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,640
but he at the same time, like he tells her that,

519
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,279
but in his mind to himself, he's like he cannot

520
00:24:53,279 --> 00:24:54,799
accept what that was right.

521
00:24:55,079 --> 00:24:55,839
Speaker 2: That's too scary.

522
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, lead that out. It was a monster. Yeah, so

523
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:01,720
he you know, he denies. That's the way to live.

524
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,119
The truth is scary. Deny it, deny it, deny.

525
00:25:04,319 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the truth is scary. You don't have to accept it, No,

526
00:25:07,559 --> 00:25:10,960
of course not. And then we go to Nana. She's fuming.

527
00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:13,960
She's like, how dare he try to talk to me?

528
00:25:14,039 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: And she's like angry and she drests off to sleep

529
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,160
and she is dreaming of being angry at Thistle or something.

530
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 2: I don't know what she's dreaming about.

531
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,759
Speaker 1: And then she's woken up by a scream and it's

532
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,880
her younger sister and her younger sisters crying about something

533
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,759
in her dream that has no eyes and many teeth.

534
00:25:29,079 --> 00:25:32,279
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then you know it's the next day.

535
00:25:32,279 --> 00:25:35,440
Speaker 1: There's a meeting between all the Vakeetos and the nearby ranchos.

536
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,359
They're making plans to defend their land. Mexico has not

537
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,400
sent enough troops because they're busy, like fighting elsewhere. Yeah,

538
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,839
so the Yankees are closing in on them, and they

539
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,559
have to like get together some.

540
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: Sort of soldiers. They have to get together, like a unit,

541
00:25:49,599 --> 00:25:50,960
you know, a militia yes.

542
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:54,799
Speaker 1: So there's also in this meeting there's rumors of Yankees

543
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:58,119
having dogs that they set loose on the ranchos that

544
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,720
they've taken over, and that it's this like horrible new

545
00:26:00,759 --> 00:26:02,640
weapon and at the time we don't know what it is.

546
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 2: Later we learn terrifying. Yes.

547
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:10,839
Speaker 1: So during this meeting, Nana proposes to accompany the militia,

548
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,559
the battalion, and at first her father refuses. The truth

549
00:26:13,599 --> 00:26:15,759
is is that they need her. They need a kurandera

550
00:26:16,039 --> 00:26:18,079
I will I cannot go with him. She's she's old,

551
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,240
and Susto has been plaguing in the region like they

552
00:26:21,279 --> 00:26:23,440
know something is out there, they don't know what, and

553
00:26:23,519 --> 00:26:26,160
so they're gonna need her. Plus curanderas they're not only

554
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,839
folk healers who heal these like spiritual.

555
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,599
Speaker 2: Like she's basically trained like in first aid. Yeah. Yeah,

556
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:33,599
so she's she's a medic.

557
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: And so the deal is that, yeah, she can go,

558
00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:38,920
but when she returns, she has to marry the person

559
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,240
of her father's choosing, and Nana agrees to this because

560
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,359
you know, she wants to prove her worth to her

561
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,039
family too.

562
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: So they go off.

563
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,279
Speaker 1: Nesar goes too because they know how good of a

564
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:51,440
shot he is, and I mean he's a good baghetto.

565
00:26:51,559 --> 00:26:53,720
You know, he's the best vacqutto out there. Yeah, he

566
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:56,400
really is. And Beto goes too, because he goes where

567
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,880
his best. He goes that too. But also they're heading

568
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,599
towards Matamoros. Yes, also that and that's where his family rites.

569
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,000
But he's right or died too.

570
00:27:04,039 --> 00:27:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah.

571
00:27:04,519 --> 00:27:07,319
Speaker 1: So during the journey, Nestor tries to talk to Nana.

572
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,839
She refuses. We have a lot of that, a lot.

573
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,960
At some point you're like, oh my god, forgive him. Yeah,

574
00:27:14,079 --> 00:27:16,839
I was, Yeah, we get it, you know, we get it.

575
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:17,519
Speaker 2: Part of it.

576
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,759
Speaker 1: Eventually she refuses to talk to him at all because

577
00:27:20,759 --> 00:27:23,480
at some points there's little conversations here and there she

578
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:28,839
like overhears Bethol talking about Nestor like single life and

579
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,400
his adventures.

580
00:27:29,759 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: As a you know, muheego and then that so she's like,

581
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:32,960
fuck this shit.

582
00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 1: I like tried to give him the grace or whatever,

583
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,720
like to start like a friendship a conversation, and then

584
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:41,839
he's been out there hole in this whole time.

585
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: So then she decides to like, yeah, give him the

586
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:44,720
silent treatment.

587
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so at that point, Betho is the person

588
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,799
who's going to guard her, Not Nestloda anymore. That's what

589
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,920
she decides, and so they go towards the river or something,

590
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,839
and when her and Betho walk away, Nestor and some

591
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,680
other men come across some maled animal and it's like

592
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:03,119
something they've never seen before, like it's been sucked dead.

593
00:28:03,839 --> 00:28:06,400
They're like, what did this? And there's a vacto. His

594
00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:09,960
name is Old Juan, and I just love Old Juan.

595
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,839
There has to be a younger, yeah, younger Kuan in

596
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,680
the crowd. So Old Huan tells them that animals did

597
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,759
not do this. It was the work of spirits, and

598
00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:20,000
some of the men laugh and walk away, and then

599
00:28:20,079 --> 00:28:23,200
Nestor is like contemplating what he said, because he has

600
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:26,680
seen things, right, And so then Old Huan tells them

601
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,839
you've seen them, haven't you? And he can tell on

602
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,240
his eyes yeah, that line. It's like confirming the truth

603
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,160
that Nessor does now want to accept. There is something

604
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,200
out there and he has seen them and this is

605
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,279
what did this to this animal. And Old Juan tells

606
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:44,480
Nesor that he was born in Galla Llahara. And you know,

607
00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:49,559
anytime you read Galla, shout outa yes, we love Gallalada.

608
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,559
So he's he's from Guallalahara and it's different up there.

609
00:28:52,599 --> 00:28:56,000
There's no monsters like there is in this part. And

610
00:28:56,079 --> 00:28:58,279
you know what, that's not true, because there is a vampire. Okay,

611
00:28:58,279 --> 00:29:00,200
it's there's a whole.

612
00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:03,359
Speaker 2: Tree for it. Was he around in this time though? Yeah, okay,

613
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:03,799
never mind.

614
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: Then the legend already existed, right, So these parts there's

615
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,359
monsters here, and that's what Old Kwan tells Nestor. And

616
00:29:11,519 --> 00:29:14,599
Estor then thinks back to all the stories of witches

617
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,400
and creatures that Abuela has shared and just like the

618
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:22,039
perfect moment, there's a scream. He runs towards the river bank,

619
00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:27,279
realizing that Beto is the one who scrummed the scream.

620
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:30,599
He's scrumped. Yeah, he was scared. He's been attacked. In

621
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,480
a serious note mode, he was he was being attacked. No,

622
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:34,920
but seriously, he was.

623
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:39,799
Speaker 2: He was being attacked. Something attacked him. Yeah.

624
00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,279
Speaker 1: So Nestor, you know, goes to him, drags him to

625
00:29:42,319 --> 00:29:45,000
the camp. Nana begins to work on him, calling him

626
00:29:45,039 --> 00:29:46,519
back like she did with Ignacio.

627
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: She needs his real name, so Nestor needs to be there.

628
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: But then she's at the same time she's mad at him.

629
00:29:51,359 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 2: M she doesn't want him there, but he needs to

630
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,960
be there and we love this. Yeah.

631
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,319
Speaker 1: And so when when he comes to, she asks him

632
00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:01,920
if if he remembered anything, remember anything, and he doesn't.

633
00:30:02,039 --> 00:30:04,160
So she goes back to her tent, and you know,

634
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,960
she's thinking about all the stuff Nestor said about how

635
00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:09,799
he thought she was dead, and those were the same

636
00:30:09,839 --> 00:30:14,359
words Ignacio's wife said when he was brought back back

637
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:15,279
in Nosoquelos.

638
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:17,599
Speaker 2: So she's doing a little bit of putting two and

639
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:18,319
two together.

640
00:30:18,759 --> 00:30:21,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, like if he was almost dead and if he

641
00:30:21,599 --> 00:30:23,799
thought I was almost dead, then the same thing must

642
00:30:23,839 --> 00:30:27,640
have attacked us, just like Beto right now. Also, is

643
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,319
it already at this point that she feels like in

644
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:34,119
her neck a little like tingly when they're nearby. Oh yeah,

645
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,880
I forgot to mention that. So she's already like you

646
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,720
know because also because of that making connecting these things. Yes, yes,

647
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:43,039
thank you for putting that out, because I completely ignore that.

648
00:30:43,119 --> 00:30:44,839
Speaker 2: I got you. So then the group moves on.

649
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,319
Speaker 1: They crossed the Rio Brabo and this is where they

650
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:52,599
are attacked by the Yankees, the Whites, the Anglos, the settlers.

651
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,000
So they're attacked everyone is separated. It's chaos and Nna.

652
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,920
Here's her brother yelling run run if there's another Coudra Susana.

653
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,519
Speaker 2: She literally sees Susana shot in front of her. Terrible.

654
00:31:04,759 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: The description graphic, Yeah, horrible. There's bullets everywhere. Two Yankees

655
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:13,039
are about to approach Nina, and who approaches our hero

656
00:31:14,559 --> 00:31:17,599
and so he saves her. They ride away together and

657
00:31:17,799 --> 00:31:21,599
as they're writing away, they see a creature eating a

658
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,640
soldier and they're like, what the fuck is that? Oh

659
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,799
my god, I can't even like, I was picturing this

660
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,680
in my head and it was terrifying, you know what

661
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,880
I was picturing. Sorry to go back to she who

662
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,599
must not be named, but Harry Potter. Oh, and Voldemort's

663
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,119
in the forest and then the Forbidden Forests, like on

664
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,559
top of that unicorn and they see him for the

665
00:31:42,599 --> 00:31:45,920
first time and they're like shook ooh yeah, Like, I

666
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,960
think it's like the third movie whatever. It doesn't matter

667
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:50,559
which one it was, but I think it was not

668
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,039
the Throne.

669
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:52,119
Speaker 2: I think it was suited than that.

670
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,279
Speaker 1: Really second, I'm pretty sure maybe even the first one. Okay, whatever,

671
00:31:56,359 --> 00:31:59,960
it really it does not matter. Point is that is

672
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200
that's what I pictured and can you just imagine you're

673
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:07,200
running away from this gunfight, something terrible, violent, and then

674
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,599
you see this like, no, I.

675
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,319
Speaker 2: Would throw up. I would just die right then and

676
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:13,880
there it would be over. Yeah, my fallover. Let it

677
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:17,200
get me here, I am yep.

678
00:32:17,279 --> 00:32:19,799
Speaker 1: He instructs her to keep going and she's like, I

679
00:32:19,799 --> 00:32:22,039
can't leave you. He's like, no, go and he kills

680
00:32:22,039 --> 00:32:24,160
the creature. He catches up to Nana and then they

681
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,640
have to cross this deep part of the river. Nana's afraid,

682
00:32:26,759 --> 00:32:28,920
but Nestor gets her through it, and then we just

683
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,200
go through their journey back to Los Sauelas together.

684
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: They're fighting, they're almost making up. Then there's more fighting.

685
00:32:34,039 --> 00:32:36,359
I love it. Was it too much for you? No?

686
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,519
I liked it? Okay.

687
00:32:37,759 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: Then they finally have an actual conversation about what happened

688
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,720
on the night she was attacked. Then there's more adorable

689
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,559
moments like him teaching her to shoot.

690
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 2: That was so cute.

691
00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Then there's one night they're taking shelter, like in a

692
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:50,119
cave or something.

693
00:32:50,119 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 2: I can't remember.

694
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: I took a cave, yeah, okay, And there's like at

695
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,559
first there's a yankee, like they think it's a Yankee,

696
00:32:56,599 --> 00:32:58,559
like He's like, whyzy by himself.

697
00:32:58,599 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: But then they realize it's a It's something so much worse.

698
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,960
Like if you thought Yankee was bad, this is worse.

699
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: They don't name it a vampire yet, but that's what

700
00:33:06,759 --> 00:33:09,279
these are, these creatures. They keep seeing their vampires, so

701
00:33:09,359 --> 00:33:11,920
they realize that this is that's what this is, and

702
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,480
they fight this thing. Nana is her during this encounter,

703
00:33:14,599 --> 00:33:16,799
but they fight it. They make it through and they

704
00:33:16,839 --> 00:33:22,240
move on. Nana or not Nana, Nestor Nestor You've been

705
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,720
saying like English and Spanish. Oh my god, sorry forgive me.

706
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,519
It's hard to go back and forth. Yeah, yeah, especially

707
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:33,359
with names. Nestor burst her bubble about life, Soquelos, He's like,

708
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,240
it wasn't as good as you thought it was for

709
00:33:35,319 --> 00:33:37,359
the rest of us, the rest of us peasants.

710
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 2: Your dad is a bitch. Yeah, he shows her. How

711
00:33:42,039 --> 00:33:42,519
about her?

712
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,359
Speaker 1: She is? Yeah, pretty much. She doesn't exactly say that,

713
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,119
but you might as well have. It's like a summary

714
00:33:48,119 --> 00:33:50,480
of it. Yeah, Like the vekehettos work hard, but they

715
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:52,680
live in hacalis while you get to live in your

716
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,119
fancy ass house. We're not even allowed to build a stone.

717
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:56,720
Speaker 2: House on this land.

718
00:33:56,799 --> 00:33:59,359
Speaker 1: Because it's not ours like we're working, we're doing all

719
00:33:59,359 --> 00:34:02,960
the work, and your dat is not you're living off

720
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:03,799
of our work.

721
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 2: You're exploiting our labor. You capitalists, scum.

722
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: And they keep arguing when he's telling her this, and

723
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:13,119
then she tells him she wishes he never came back,

724
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,480
and then he's like, well, what would have been the alternative?

725
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,519
Be happy with the little measy time I would have

726
00:34:19,519 --> 00:34:21,559
had with you, and then you would have been married

727
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:23,679
to some other rich man, Like come on.

728
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,280
Speaker 2: And honestly, he's right, he's right. If he would have stayed,

729
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:28,400
that's what would have happened.

730
00:34:28,559 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: It would have never worked out between them, and yeah,

731
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,480
he would have again been exploited by his labor, you know.

732
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,320
So honestly, he was sad and everything, having a hard life,

733
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,440
but he was having an independent life. He is his

734
00:34:40,559 --> 00:34:46,679
own boss. He is a freelance vakiro. So while they're

735
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,400
arguing about this, then they kiss and I was like, yes,

736
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,840
they're gonna be together, But then I was like, no,

737
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,440
they're not because of the argument they just had closey

738
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,599
thinking I knew they were going to be together. Yeah,

739
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,000
So Neslo rejects her. He's like, no, what's the point

740
00:34:58,039 --> 00:34:59,800
of this. Now we're going to enjoy the little time

741
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,400
we here. Then you're going to get back to Los Azuelos.

742
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,559
And it's the same thing. It's the same thing, like,

743
00:35:04,639 --> 00:35:06,320
if you're going to be about it, be about it.

744
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,679
Don't just be about it for now, forever and ever.

745
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880
It's what he wants. I don't blame him, I don't.

746
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

747
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: So they travel together after this, and they run into

748
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,199
a group of men and they tell these men that

749
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,960
their men and wife because they need a cover story.

750
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,400
They can't just be traveling together, yeah, especially her and

751
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,199
the daughter of Anessen Dado. So they gather around the

752
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400
campfire with this group of men and Estor tells them

753
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,880
a story. And I love this part because he's basically

754
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:34,000
telling their story, yeah, from childhood up until Nana is attacked.

755
00:35:34,159 --> 00:35:36,920
But he ends it drive differently, of course, because their

756
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:37,599
story is not over.

757
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,639
Speaker 2: Their story. We're in the we're in the thick of it,

758
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,719
you know, it's in the making. Yeah.

759
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,159
Speaker 1: So then at the end, the men asked him where

760
00:35:44,199 --> 00:35:46,239
he heard the story, and ESA's like, oh, from some

761
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:48,760
vakeo somewhere, you know, you know. And then the man

762
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,480
is like, well, there's truth in every story because there's

763
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:55,320
beasts out here, like we see them. We saw them

764
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,679
near San Luis Potosi. And again more confirmation that whatever

765
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,159
these things they have encounters, they are real and they're

766
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:05,159
out there. Yeah, they're not imagining things. So they are

767
00:36:05,199 --> 00:36:07,280
about to go to sleep, and he asks Nana what

768
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,719
she thought of his story, and she tells him that

769
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,079
she thought it was sad and then so cheesy but adorable.

770
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:14,760
He's like, you know, you can change the story if

771
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,840
you want. I was like, oh so cute.

772
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: Yeah.

773
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:20,559
Speaker 1: She tells him she could marry a vacto if he's

774
00:36:20,599 --> 00:36:23,239
the right one, like saying like, I could not marry

775
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,119
a rich as another my father's choosing, Like for the

776
00:36:26,199 --> 00:36:27,079
right person, I would.

777
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter who they are.

778
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,559
Speaker 1: I would throw everything away from the right person, right, Yeah,

779
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:36,480
and who wouldn't and that's who. So they pack up

780
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,639
their stuff and you know, say goodbye to the men

781
00:36:39,679 --> 00:36:42,719
that they shared food with. The man gets a feeling

782
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,000
nessor knows what these beasts are, and he tells them

783
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,239
he has seen them to and then he tells Neslor

784
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,760
to be careful, and so Nestor and Na continue moving on.

785
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:53,760
This is where he teaches her how to show and

786
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,199
it's the cutest thing ever. And I thought they would

787
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960
get together like right then and there, but they're interrupted.

788
00:36:59,159 --> 00:37:02,440
There's a dozen voice in the distance in English, and

789
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,599
it's the Yankees. They got there to ruin everything, just

790
00:37:06,639 --> 00:37:07,480
like they always do.

791
00:37:08,039 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 2: Right.

792
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,159
Speaker 1: They see that they have something with them and they're

793
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,119
hiding like you know, and they could they're looking and

794
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,719
Nana starts feeling like something's looking at her. And then

795
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,400
they realize like they are using the vampires as weapons,

796
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:21,679
like they have them chained up.

797
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,039
Speaker 2: They don't make their realization yet.

798
00:37:23,039 --> 00:37:25,679
Speaker 1: They see that the vampires are chained with the Yankees,

799
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,840
and that's odd, right, They're like, what is happening?

800
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:30,199
Speaker 2: What is that? Yeah?

801
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,639
Speaker 1: And so they escape and find shelter like in some

802
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,559
oh is this a cave part? No, They're like in

803
00:37:34,599 --> 00:37:37,960
a cave twice? Right, maybe they find shelter in a

804
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,239
cave and Nestor asks if also sorry pause dream chess.

805
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,920
They keep using that is that a word for the

806
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,000
vampires or a word for the Yankees or what?

807
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:47,039
Speaker 2: I don't remember.

808
00:37:47,639 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: It's all over the book, and at first I thought

809
00:37:49,559 --> 00:37:51,840
it was just another word for the Yankees, but now

810
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,800
I'm wondering if it was a word for the vampires,

811
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,960
because I think Nesto at this point asks her what

812
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,079
she thinks of the Rien Chess, and this whole time,

813
00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,519
I thought it was the Yankees, but maybe it's not.

814
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:07,639
I think it's for the Texas Rangers. Oh, this makes sense, yes,

815
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,519
because they would be encountering not just normal like US Army,

816
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,840
but they would be encountering the Texas Rangers, right, who

817
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,599
at this point in time have a reputation of.

818
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,639
Speaker 2: Being terrible, violent, the worst of the worst.

819
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,599
Speaker 1: Okay, And so in this book, the Texas Rangers are

820
00:38:24,639 --> 00:38:27,159
the ones with the vampires, and then there's also the

821
00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,519
regular Yankees. Okay, but they don't have the vampires the

822
00:38:30,599 --> 00:38:33,440
Rangers do, right, right, that's what I think, okay? Or

823
00:38:33,559 --> 00:38:35,880
I mean they could also be that they're using Yankees

824
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,480
and dings interchangeably.

825
00:38:37,639 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: That's true. I remember because they were in this in February, right.

826
00:38:41,039 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 1: It was a while for you, but I think I

827
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:47,079
think we might be right. So they at first, Nestor

828
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,599
asks like, were they trying to get rid of the vampires?

829
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:50,639
Speaker 2: Is that why they're chained up?

830
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: And Na wonders if they're using the vampires to get

831
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,280
rid of them.

832
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: The Mexicans. Yeah, and he's.

833
00:38:58,679 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 1: Like, no, no, no way, that's no no no, no,

834
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,239
mom is no no, like when you don't want to

835
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,960
believe something because that's deranged. He's like, this is the

836
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,199
most arranged thing I've ever heard, Like there's no way,

837
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,320
but there was. But then she's like, think about it,

838
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:17,239
like have you encountered any animal that cannot be broken?

839
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,159
Like any animal can be broken and trained. So if

840
00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:22,960
that's true, then why couldn't they train these vampires to

841
00:39:23,039 --> 00:39:26,840
attack Mexicans? And it's just there's so much there that's

842
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:31,360
like the symbolism is insane, like because it's true. They

843
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,519
will go through any they will use any means, they'll

844
00:39:34,679 --> 00:39:38,280
weaponize anything to destroy That's what that's what is.

845
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 2: That's who they want to destroy. And the lesson is

846
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:45,760
the Yankees are the real monsters, not the vampires.

847
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:49,079
Speaker 1: Literan. Yeah, that's what I got by the end of

848
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,079
this too. So I think right after this is when

849
00:39:52,119 --> 00:39:55,360
they finally do it, they finally get together, and so

850
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,559
then you know, after they finally get together, Nana sleeping,

851
00:40:00,639 --> 00:40:02,440
he takes watch for the whole night so that.

852
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: She rests, she needs her being to rest, and he sees.

853
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: Vampires in the distance, but they can't get close because

854
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:11,719
of the salt that they put around the perimeter. And

855
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,800
that's why I know that this is the second time

856
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,480
they're in a cave, because the first time is when

857
00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:16,679
she got hurt or he got hurt.

858
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: One of them got hurt. Someone got hurt.

859
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,159
Speaker 1: And it's the guy that they meet that tells them

860
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,440
about the salt or is this something they remember from

861
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,719
Ala one of.

862
00:40:26,679 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: Those things things?

863
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, when they meet the when they're at the

864
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,320
campfire with the other people, he's the one who tells them.

865
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,599
But also she remembers and he sees that that Auela

866
00:40:36,679 --> 00:40:38,360
did pack salt in his things.

867
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: She put it there for a reason. So finally they

868
00:40:41,039 --> 00:40:41,559
put the salt.

869
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: And can you just imagine sitting there keeping watch and

870
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,079
in the distance you see these creatures like watching you. Yeah,

871
00:40:48,159 --> 00:40:50,679
that's terrifying. But also do you want to I don't

872
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,400
know if you the same thing came to your head?

873
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:56,519
Very silly, very unserious. Do you know where I'm going

874
00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:00,519
with this? Maybe, but I'll let you continue. And bob

875
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:09,840
Boba sponka the spongebok no okay translated spongebo okay. When

876
00:41:10,159 --> 00:41:13,559
there I forgot what they have to make like a circle.

877
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:18,039
Speaker 2: So that's a bar, That's what I thought, and I

878
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:22,039
was like laughing to myself. I was like a little.

879
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Boys Wonka moment. You were right, that was very un serious.

880
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,599
But yeah, essentially it's the same thing where Screenword and

881
00:41:30,639 --> 00:41:33,400
SpongeBob are inside this No sorry, Patrick and Spongebobb are

882
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,639
inside this circle, protecting so themselves from the bearer, and

883
00:41:36,639 --> 00:41:38,800
Squeward doesn't believe them, and then he gets attacked. Yeah,

884
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,599
and then he gets attacked again and again and again.

885
00:41:40,679 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

886
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, now it's morning time. They start moving and

887
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:47,880
they reached Nouqulos pretty quickly after this. Everyone's happy to

888
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,800
see them, except Nana's fucking family.

889
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm like, are you guys serious? They're such bitches. I

890
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:53,760
was so mad at them.

891
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,519
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe this ship. They should be happy she's alive,

892
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,360
but no, always with a giving up and taos the

893
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,559
masks who cares? Who fucking cares? Fus, Yeah she's alive,

894
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,400
Like that's all you should care about, but no, Nona's

895
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,360
mom is not happy to see Nesto is with her.

896
00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:12,760
Nana tells her what happened, why they're here now? Her

897
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,880
mom tells her that her father sent news him and

898
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:19,800
Felix's her brother. They're okay, and Nesto naturally like anyone

899
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,400
would ask about his brother, and she tells him they

900
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,760
don't send news about the vac ghettos, like like thevac

901
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:32,679
ghettos got together to help you your land, so you know,

902
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:37,119
at least show some kind of ounce of like respect, generosity,

903
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,199
like not generosity, but like thankfulness.

904
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have respect. Yeah.

905
00:42:41,519 --> 00:42:43,280
Speaker 1: So he wants to go put their horses away, and

906
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,719
Na tells them that she will do it because he's hurt,

907
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:47,119
and then her mom is like please, that's why I

908
00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:49,880
get to work. But it's like he's hurt, yeah, like

909
00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:52,880
come on, and he just delivered your daughter to you.

910
00:42:53,679 --> 00:42:56,039
I just could not believe the audacity, but at the

911
00:42:56,039 --> 00:42:59,039
same time it could so luckily. Ignacio, who didn't go

912
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:01,719
with them because he was from the Susto, walks up

913
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,039
and he puts the horses away.

914
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,679
Speaker 2: Nestor goes to his family.

915
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: Abuela asks how him and Nana are doing, and he's like,

916
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,760
I want to marry her, Abilla.

917
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:11,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how great things are.

918
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah. A Willa was like what about Don Feliges and

919
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:16,559
ESA's like, if we can face El Cuco and we

920
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,840
can face those monsters, we can face anything, and you

921
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,440
would think so then you know it's that's it's nighttime

922
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,519
when they arrive, so then it's the next day. Nana

923
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:27,400
is telling her cousin, I believe her sister. I don't

924
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,880
remember which one, because they're both the people she talks

925
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,880
to the most. It's her sister and her cousin, So

926
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:34,719
she's telling one of them about what they saw, and

927
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:38,159
then her mom comes and interrupts her, and then typical

928
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,639
Mexican fashion, tells her to stop talking about monsters and shit,

929
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,159
like to stop like and that she Lissa stop talking about,

930
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,199
you know, the journey and how she was alone with

931
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:52,320
the peon, which I guess is what they call yeah peon.

932
00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:56,119
Oh sorry that was in English. I read it in Spanish. Yeah,

933
00:43:56,199 --> 00:43:58,400
So Nana listened and it's like, fine, I'll stop talking

934
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,320
about this. So that's already like once find that she's

935
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,920
already uh trekking back on her because she had told

936
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,159
Nessa she was gonna talk to her family right yes,

937
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,360
that it didn't matter, they were going to be together,

938
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,760
So she's backtracking her behavior.

939
00:44:12,119 --> 00:44:14,159
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm hm taking taking aback.

940
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:17,760
Speaker 1: So then there's evening prayers Nana and Nestor me and

941
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,760
he kisses her and she's like, stopped here going to

942
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,519
see us, and that's like another thing he's like. He's like, oh,

943
00:44:22,599 --> 00:44:25,599
this isn't gonna and the way that I thought it was.

944
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:26,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

945
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,760
Speaker 1: Nana tells him that her mom is already upset over

946
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,000
the vampire talk and she just needs to wait to

947
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:35,199
like smooth things over. Basically, her sister's having nightmares, and

948
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,679
Nesta tells her there's been two more attacks and one

949
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,199
person didn't survive, a girl, so you know it's getting

950
00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:42,199
more serious. He wants to walk her home and she

951
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,159
doesn't let him, and he is her bathis He's like, okay,

952
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:49,480
this is yeah. Another another to him, Yeah, another blow

953
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:53,440
like another another staff and he's back. Then a couple

954
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,280
of days go by, the rest of the men returned.

955
00:44:55,519 --> 00:44:58,079
Feliks and Don Felix are all right. So it's Betho

956
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,280
and Cassie Middle, but Cassie Middle's her Casimiro is Nestor's cousin.

957
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:03,320
Speaker 2: I think it's his cousin.

958
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: Oh whoops, I thought it was his brother. But I

959
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,400
think you're right, and it is his cousin. I think

960
00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:08,280
that's what he was asking about when he asked. And

961
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,400
then as mom and she's like, who yeah, fun, Sorry,

962
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,360
you want me to tell you about the fucking peasants?

963
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,719
No about my employees? Why don't keep track of them?

964
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,039
I could give two shits. They could croak over and die,

965
00:45:22,119 --> 00:45:27,159
and I don't care exactly what she said. So Nana

966
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:30,199
asks Betho when he returns if he feels it too,

967
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,199
and at first he's like what, but then she's like,

968
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,400
the wound on your neck, do you feel a tingling?

969
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,280
And he's like, yeah, this means the vampires are in

970
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,000
your bib right?

971
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,199
Speaker 2: Oh no, but she doesn't tell him this. Yeah, I

972
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,880
don't think. I don't remember. I don't think so yeah.

973
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: So then she goes to see Felix and she tells

974
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:51,719
him that Nestor helps her back home, and he's like, oh,

975
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,679
the rumors are true. Then you and a Vacquero alone

976
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,400
on the road, they're rumors. They're rumors, And I'm like, shit,

977
00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,960
the fuck. At least she made it back in one piece.

978
00:46:00,079 --> 00:46:02,119
If it was not for Nestor, she would have she

979
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:02,519
would have.

980
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:04,679
Speaker 2: Made it back. No, not at all.

981
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: He saves her in the battlefield, but all they care

982
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:10,800
about is, oh, your image, Oh how can you be

983
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,920
seen with the which I get that's what it was

984
00:46:13,039 --> 00:46:16,159
like back then. But still, man, she's alive.

985
00:46:16,599 --> 00:46:17,199
Speaker 2: Just be happy.

986
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: She's alive, like seriously. So then her dad walks in

987
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,079
and he's like, oh, thank god, you're all right. I

988
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,880
should have never agreed to let you come. It was

989
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,880
too dangerous. And then her mom just like loses her

990
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,960
shit for no fucking reason. She's like, you should have

991
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,280
seen us say she returned in and with that boy,

992
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,559
he crossed the line and we cannot fix this.

993
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: No one will want to marry her.

994
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,599
Speaker 1: And then her dad storms out and I'm like, oh

995
00:46:37,679 --> 00:46:41,280
my god, calm down, everyone calm down, but they don't.

996
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,559
He storms to the Duarte Hakka so where Nestor's family

997
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,559
lips and Nana is about to follow. Her mom's like, stop,

998
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,039
he needs to be made or the boy needs to

999
00:46:53,199 --> 00:46:56,079
be made an example, and I'm like, the boy this

1000
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:59,519
is a man, a man that saved her life.

1001
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. I was so annoyed at her family. Me too,

1002
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:03,320
me too.

1003
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 1: So then Nana tells her her mom off and she

1004
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:10,440
runs after her dad. Then Don Fendix is yelling at

1005
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:14,519
Nestos is yelling back, he's not taking this ship again.

1006
00:47:14,679 --> 00:47:16,079
Speaker 2: He's a freelance facto.

1007
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: He does not to stand for no man, no, Asendalo

1008
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,679
yelling at him no.

1009
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,239
Speaker 2: So they're exchanging words.

1010
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,639
Speaker 1: Nesta tells him that he's not hisato, he's his equal,

1011
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,760
and he's going to buy land right here, right next

1012
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,039
door to dash. Shit.

1013
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: I was like fuck.

1014
00:47:33,079 --> 00:47:35,639
Speaker 1: I was like yes. He's like, I'm gonna marry Nana.

1015
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,119
And Nana walks up as he's saying that she's Felix

1016
00:47:38,199 --> 00:47:40,800
is like is this true. She's like, oh fuck.

1017
00:47:42,679 --> 00:47:46,199
Speaker 2: Is this? Oh my god? I love it. I would

1018
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,519
love this novella to me too. It has everything, it

1019
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:51,800
has everything you need. Yeah.

1020
00:47:52,039 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: So Nana's like, uh no, like no, let's talk about

1021
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:56,920
this alone. Like she wants her dad to calm down

1022
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,719
before she admits to anything. That's all Nestlo needed to hear.

1023
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,960
He's like, fuck this, you're not willing to stand up

1024
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,840
to your dad. I'm sucking done. I'm done. He's trying

1025
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:06,719
to talk to Nana.

1026
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: Don't. FedEx is yelling then don't.

1027
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,599
Speaker 1: Felix turns to Nestor and tells them like, you know

1028
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:14,360
what you're right, you're not my employee. Get off my land.

1029
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:17,079
You're banished. If I see you again, it's on site.

1030
00:48:17,639 --> 00:48:21,119
It's on site, like I'm killing you on site. So

1031
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,800
Nesta's like, you know what, fine, fuck this, I don't

1032
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:25,000
need this chance.

1033
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: I was doing just fine before, just fine.

1034
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,639
Speaker 1: Exactly that moment in the movies, you know, yeah, yeah,

1035
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,280
where the kid is telling the dog to leave.

1036
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 2: Get out of here, I love you anymore.

1037
00:48:38,559 --> 00:48:41,559
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I also thought of the I

1038
00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:43,719
don't even remember what it's from, but it's his kid,

1039
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,079
and he's like, don't call me, dude.

1040
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:51,639
Speaker 2: I's like, what, don't call me, don't call my house.

1041
00:48:52,519 --> 00:48:53,199
Speaker 1: We're done?

1042
00:48:56,519 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Yes, that was Yeah, it's from Diarva, would be kid.

1043
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 1: Okay then yeah, yeah that was nestor don't call me,

1044
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,079
don't come by my house.

1045
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,800
Speaker 2: And he he's.

1046
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:08,039
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you're right. So he leaves, just like he

1047
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:11,960
did nine years ago. He leaves. Nana is on her

1048
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,760
on her in her bed, like trying to sleep that night,

1049
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:15,320
you know, but she can't. There's a lot on her

1050
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,679
mind because obviously the love of her life has left

1051
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:19,960
yet again, but this time.

1052
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 2: Is kind of her fault.

1053
00:49:21,199 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, she can't be mad this time, she can only

1054
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:26,519
be mad at herself, and so she's trying to sleep

1055
00:49:26,519 --> 00:49:28,880
and she's woken up by their dog who's by the window,

1056
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,440
and then she's like, wait, all the dogs are barking,

1057
00:49:31,559 --> 00:49:33,679
and then there's gunshots and screaming.

1058
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 2: It's the Yankees. They've arrived.

1059
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,840
Speaker 1: As so, you know, we leave her and we go

1060
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:45,000
to Nestor writing West writing fast. He's mad but Nana

1061
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:48,960
that she didn't stand up for them. Later, as he's writing,

1062
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:52,280
he passes by a puma that has been mauled and

1063
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:52,719
he's like.

1064
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: Oh no, this can't be good. Ah fuck, I know

1065
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:57,079
what this is. Oh shit.

1066
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:03,079
Speaker 1: He immediately turns around and rides fast towards Los Aquelos.

1067
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:05,920
Back in Loulos, Na is instructing her sister to take

1068
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,400
the salt and make a barrier. Her mom comes out

1069
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,159
and asks what's going on, And at that moment, a

1070
00:50:10,199 --> 00:50:12,000
vampire is trying to jump in at the window, and

1071
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:15,480
that's second terrifying. Then there's a little adorable dog Boyo

1072
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,800
attacks a vampire, Go Boyo and bites it in the leg. Yes,

1073
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,360
go Boyo, and Nana hacks at it with a butcher

1074
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,480
knife or something, and so they're able to fight this

1075
00:50:24,519 --> 00:50:27,039
one off and Nana or sorry, Nana's mom is like

1076
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:27,559
what was that?

1077
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: And Na's like, hell cuckoo. It's just it's just.

1078
00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 1: A moment in TV when it's like like a tense

1079
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,920
like piano, and then you're like what was that? And

1080
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,800
then it zooms in and she's like hell cucko. So

1081
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:41,960
she finishes pouring the salt. They all realize I will

1082
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,239
ask stories are true. And then she like a like

1083
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,880
a badass. She's like, all right, you guys, like be

1084
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,320
careful of this, blah blah blah, do not break this barrier.

1085
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,760
And then she jumps over the salt like a true

1086
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:58,119
action hero a she wrote moment. Yeah, she jumps over

1087
00:50:58,159 --> 00:51:01,079
the salt. She runs toward the noise or something. She's

1088
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:03,719
running outside and she runs into Nesto. And so then

1089
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,840
there's fighting between them, the ring ches so the Texas Rangers,

1090
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,199
I guess, and the vampires.

1091
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 2: The vampires in the middle, yeah, the Cucos, the cucos. Yeah.

1092
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:15,360
Nana is hurt.

1093
00:51:15,519 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: She's taken to Abuela, and Abuela has Nestler called Nana back,

1094
00:51:20,079 --> 00:51:21,920
and of course she does a Wella's like you know,

1095
00:51:22,039 --> 00:51:22,920
you two love each other.

1096
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:24,599
Speaker 2: I can't do this. You were gonna do it.

1097
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:29,199
Speaker 1: She needs the love of her life to call her back. Yeah,

1098
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:30,840
her soulmate exactly.

1099
00:51:31,079 --> 00:51:33,159
Speaker 2: And it works. She wakes up, they make up.

1100
00:51:33,559 --> 00:51:35,760
Speaker 1: Her dad is walking up as they're like, you know,

1101
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:37,679
hugging each other making up, and he's.

1102
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck what are you doing?

1103
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,119
Speaker 1: And then I was like no, he goes, I go,

1104
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,719
I don't care what anyone says anymore.

1105
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 2: And they're finally together.

1106
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,760
Speaker 1: But also at some point during all this, there is

1107
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,000
a moment where she realizes that the I didn't write

1108
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,760
it down, That's why I'm summarizing it in this manner.

1109
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:53,760
So there's a moment where she realizes the ring Chet,

1110
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,599
not the Rynches, the vampires are not doing this of

1111
00:51:56,639 --> 00:51:59,000
their own volition. They're not doing this of their own will. Yeah,

1112
00:51:59,039 --> 00:52:02,000
they're being controlled by the Yankees, by the Rangers, the

1113
00:52:02,159 --> 00:52:05,400
Texas Rangers. They're trapped and they're hurt. They just they

1114
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:08,320
want to be free too, And she like empathizes with

1115
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,880
them with the monsters because she's like, you know what,

1116
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:15,000
they're not the monsters the power of empathy, you know. Yeah,

1117
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:18,039
she realizes that they are a tool being used by

1118
00:52:18,079 --> 00:52:21,119
the colonizers. By the real monsters, and she has this

1119
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:24,119
moment of understanding with one of them and then they're like,

1120
00:52:24,199 --> 00:52:26,119
all right, let's go, this is in our battle.

1121
00:52:26,159 --> 00:52:26,679
Speaker 2: We're free.

1122
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,639
Speaker 1: She like unties their chains or some shit, and yeah,

1123
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,400
they're they're the vampires leave. They end up, you know,

1124
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:34,880
beating the Yankees after that, who then also flee because

1125
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:36,239
they don't have their vampires anymore.

1126
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:38,119
Speaker 2: So that's that happens.

1127
00:52:38,519 --> 00:52:41,920
Speaker 1: And yeah, so then there is a little like flash

1128
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,880
forward moment where there's like a tiny little wedding celebration.

1129
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,559
Then they have like a plot of land, not like

1130
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:50,440
we're almost right next to Loslos and Nesslo. It is like,

1131
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,000
all right, I'm going to go off to ten the

1132
00:52:52,199 --> 00:52:54,039
I don't know animals. And she's like at the footstep

1133
00:52:54,119 --> 00:52:56,920
or something of the house and across the river she

1134
00:52:57,039 --> 00:53:01,000
sees a vampire. It looks at her. She and they're

1135
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:02,719
like it's like a little moment of respect and it

1136
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:07,320
just leaves, and yeah, that is the end. Welcome to

1137
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,480
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00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,519
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1140
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you are not missing out on anything. The best support

1152
00:54:22,119 --> 00:54:23,840
that you can give us is just listening to our

1153
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:25,960
episodes here, So thank you for doing that.

1154
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 2: Amazing. Yeah, I loved it. I loved it.

1155
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:35,039
Speaker 1: Any thoughts you want to address before the questions anything

1156
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,000
overall overall, no, I don't think so, other than I

1157
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:44,400
just loved, absolutely loved reading about Nestor and and as

1158
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,719
I love like progressing them getting over it. I'm so

1159
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,119
happy they ended up together.

1160
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,679
Speaker 2: I hate I.

1161
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 1: Hate we have been heard by is we have. I

1162
00:54:59,039 --> 00:55:04,119
absolutely can stand when the protagonists don't end up together,

1163
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:07,079
like it's the one thing I can't stand. I can't

1164
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,159
and understand what happens. Like life, it's not perfect. It

1165
00:55:10,159 --> 00:55:15,639
doesn't work out sometimes I get that, but I hate it. Yeah, same,

1166
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:19,400
same thoughts. Okay, so discussions now, discussion questions.

1167
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: Sure. Sure.

1168
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: At the start of this novel, Nana is resigned to

1169
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,840
the fate her parents choose for her. A Neisode is

1170
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,679
resigned to never coming back to Los Aquelos. Discuss their

1171
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,440
growth over the course of the story. Did you think

1172
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,159
they have similar motivations? I mean they grew so much,

1173
00:55:36,599 --> 00:55:39,199
like think. I think the fact that she was able

1174
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:42,679
to stand up to her parents and come to the

1175
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,719
point where she was able to make that huge decision

1176
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,119
which she didn't know it could have ended.

1177
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,760
Speaker 2: In her being shunned from her family. I don't know.

1178
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,360
It's it's such a huge thing.

1179
00:55:53,559 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Like even if now people are afraid, women are afraid

1180
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:59,480
of going against their families, like imagine back then.

1181
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:03,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, it was huge on her, on her to

1182
00:56:03,199 --> 00:56:05,000
be able to do this. Is there anything you want

1183
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:06,719
to add? No, I agree with you.

1184
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:10,079
Speaker 1: I think he had a lot of resentment to let

1185
00:56:10,119 --> 00:56:12,159
go of two. But I think the person that really

1186
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:13,960
had to grow the most here with her, and she

1187
00:56:14,039 --> 00:56:16,920
did because she had to see, like, this is really

1188
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,280
what it's like for people living working under my father,

1189
00:56:20,639 --> 00:56:22,159
and even for her to be able to center for

1190
00:56:22,159 --> 00:56:24,679
her parents. Like, I completely agree with what you were

1191
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:27,440
what you were saying, Like even even her coming to

1192
00:56:27,559 --> 00:56:30,360
terms with like that she loved Nestor to begin with,

1193
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,360
it took longer like than he. I think he knew

1194
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,119
from the beginning, even when they were young little baby, No,

1195
00:56:36,199 --> 00:56:39,480
they weren't babies, but like you know, teens thirteen. So yeah,

1196
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:41,960
I think I think she had more growing to do

1197
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:44,079
than him. But he also had to, like you know,

1198
00:56:44,199 --> 00:56:45,840
let go of a lot of anger, which they both

1199
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,800
they both ended up I think could should we read

1200
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,559
the listener's answer, Yeah, this is our what our listeners said.

1201
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,119
I got the impression. Nestor was determined to get with

1202
00:56:55,199 --> 00:56:57,000
Nana as soon as he found out she was alive.

1203
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,000
Prior to returning to Los Solos, Nestor just wanted to

1204
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:03,159
by his land and have his own VENTI. Nana wanted

1205
00:57:03,159 --> 00:57:06,159
to prove how valuable she was to Lecienda without needing

1206
00:57:06,159 --> 00:57:08,800
a man. But then Nesso showed up. I think both

1207
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,679
characters showed growth by expressing their feelings toward each other.

1208
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:14,480
Nesslo was very shut off and did not speak about

1209
00:57:14,519 --> 00:57:17,159
his feelings, while Nana was somewhat impulsive.

1210
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:18,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, such a great answer.

1211
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 1: I didn't even think about their beginning motivations, even though

1212
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:25,719
that was part of the question, And that's very idiohy

1213
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,719
of me to just skip over a question just to

1214
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,719
answer the part that I like. But yeah, they both

1215
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,159
started out with such different motivations. So yes, good point, listener,

1216
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,079
Thank you for putting that out for us. Thank you

1217
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:41,840
for bringing us back to the plot. Yeah, okay. In contrast,

1218
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:51,599
what do you think they were each lacking without each other? Love, happiness, joy, romance? Okay,

1219
00:57:51,639 --> 00:57:54,119
to be a little more serious about the answer, I

1220
00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:57,880
think they were both lacking emotional intelligence without each other.

1221
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,639
Oh yeah, oh yeah, I mean, she couldn't even finish

1222
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,760
her kurunda like training because she was so blocked off

1223
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:09,880
to her emotions and just like wanting to shut things down,

1224
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:13,039
you know. And he too was so shut off that

1225
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:16,920
he was you know, drinking and hooking up, you know. Yeah,

1226
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:20,119
and so in different ways, they were lacking the same thing.

1227
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:23,880
So let's see what are losing answer this? Yes, okay.

1228
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,679
So Nna looked at Nestor as someone who would love

1229
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,639
and support her unconditionally. When Or and Na were fighting

1230
00:58:29,679 --> 00:58:32,760
on their way back to Nana noticed how she changed

1231
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,960
because her parents' love was held by a loose thread.

1232
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:37,679
For nesslo, I think Nana was his inspiration for the

1233
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:40,840
future while Na. While Nestor believed Na was dead, he

1234
00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:43,719
was so working toward buying his land to be independent.

1235
00:58:44,159 --> 00:58:48,159
Yeah again, excellent, excellent points. Again did so much better

1236
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:51,880
than we did. And I feel like that's a common thing.

1237
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:55,760
What did you make of the decision to have Nana

1238
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,719
and Nestor come from different social classes? What did you

1239
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,960
think this was meant to tell us about the community? Again,

1240
00:59:02,159 --> 00:59:06,400
we love in a more probibido story. Yes, one of

1241
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:12,079
my favorite songs, hey no tengo the nero no Tengore, Yes,

1242
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:16,760
love Us Some Selena, some Quanga the other novelas with Aaliyah.

1243
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:19,760
You know, this theme, this running theme is one of

1244
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,760
our favorites. I mean it's a sign of the times also,

1245
00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:25,519
especially like I don't know about now. I think it's

1246
00:59:25,519 --> 00:59:28,480
probably so thing now but so much less. But for me,

1247
00:59:28,599 --> 00:59:31,239
I think it was it was done to highlight the

1248
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:36,039
social structures. Is that the word social stigmas of the time,

1249
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:41,719
societal expectations, things like that. Yeah, it really paints a

1250
00:59:41,719 --> 00:59:44,599
picture of what it was like because and even in

1251
00:59:44,639 --> 00:59:47,400
some worlds it is still very true. Like you know,

1252
00:59:47,519 --> 00:59:50,119
not to go that far back to the novel right

1253
00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:52,360
in twenty ten, but it's the same thing where she

1254
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:54,960
was trying to go above her social status and her

1255
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,400
social class by being with El Profeturo, who was a

1256
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:02,840
rich lawyer of Spanish ancestry.

1257
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 2: Right.

1258
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 1: And not only was her story he's like old money

1259
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,800
in that town too, right. Yeah, and this is I

1260
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,679
know a similar thing. But it really does highlight what

1261
01:00:11,719 --> 01:00:13,760
it was like and what it's still like. Like it's

1262
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:14,159
not over.

1263
01:00:14,239 --> 01:00:16,079
Speaker 2: Oh hi, my okay, I seen if you had was

1264
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:16,519
he waving?

1265
01:00:16,599 --> 01:00:19,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was waving, So our listener said the difference

1266
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:23,239
in social classes added to the story and the historical references.

1267
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,599
It also made it fun to read a story of

1268
01:00:25,679 --> 01:00:30,400
amorpri Vido. Yes, and yeah, we completely obviously we already

1269
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:31,440
said our answer, but yeah, I.

1270
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:32,679
Speaker 2: Mean, same answer.

1271
01:00:33,119 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: Okay, So what are your thoughts on the portrayal of

1272
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:38,039
vampires in this story? Why do you think they were

1273
01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:41,079
written this way? It was so interesting. It's such a

1274
01:00:41,079 --> 01:00:46,679
different take on the vampire, especially the changing the story

1275
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,920
or the I don't know, lore on its head with

1276
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:55,320
They're like a wild animal, right being weaponized, and it's

1277
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,840
mankind that we should be afraid of. If our dad

1278
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:01,159
were to write vampire, this is how he would write

1279
01:01:01,159 --> 01:01:04,320
the vampire. I think because of that thing he's always

1280
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,559
telling us. He always tells us be more afraid of

1281
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:11,239
the living than the dead, And this is this, that's

1282
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:11,880
what this is.

1283
01:01:12,679 --> 01:01:15,239
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think I read a vampire like that.

1284
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:20,559
Speaker 1: No, where it's just another animal in nature and the

1285
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,920
monsters are the men weaponizing. Yeah, this creature and also

1286
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:30,559
fascinating that their biting of others is something that is cured.

1287
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:33,239
That it's I love that she made it susto. That

1288
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,880
was amazing and also that they're not. It's not like

1289
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,360
other vampire stories where they're going to turn into vampires

1290
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,559
and like, so that was that was also fascinating. Yeah,

1291
01:01:41,639 --> 01:01:45,119
it made it more like like a wild creature type thing.

1292
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:48,639
And then our listener said, I liked that the vampires

1293
01:01:48,639 --> 01:01:50,760
were different than what we know them to be. I

1294
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,599
enjoyed the twists that there was a cure in a sense,

1295
01:01:53,719 --> 01:01:56,599
it made it more believable for me. I love that

1296
01:01:56,639 --> 01:02:00,519
the author used susto as like war happens, yeah, when

1297
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:03,599
you get bitten. So yeah, I mean completely agree. Okay,

1298
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:06,920
So and Nana butt heads a lot. Who did you

1299
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,960
relate to more? I don't know if I related to

1300
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,960
one or the other more, but I can tell you

1301
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,760
who I was rooting for the whole time, and.

1302
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:18,239
Speaker 2: Yes it was Nestor again not us. Oh my god,

1303
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,119
why do we hate women? I don't know that that

1304
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:21,679
or just that.

1305
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:26,000
Speaker 1: I seven writes men really well and makes me want

1306
01:02:26,039 --> 01:02:27,880
to root for them, whereas in real life, am I

1307
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:28,719
you will never.

1308
01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: Catch me rooting for a man?

1309
01:02:34,519 --> 01:02:36,159
Speaker 1: No, and I agree, but I think it has to

1310
01:02:36,199 --> 01:02:38,400
do with how we also grew up, because we're not

1311
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,039
gonna identify with like the rich as in Dada, who

1312
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:45,519
doesn't realize that the workers are being overworked and who

1313
01:02:45,559 --> 01:02:48,760
has to learn this right? And there are aspects that

1314
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,519
you can identify with her obviously, like the whole U

1315
01:02:52,559 --> 01:02:54,199
and can hang out together anymore?

1316
01:02:54,639 --> 01:02:56,159
Speaker 2: What will the people think?

1317
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean even when I was or I told our

1318
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,719
mother that my husband has a child, and she's like, oh,

1319
01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:15,679
like yeah, people and people people, yeah, yeah, no. And

1320
01:03:15,719 --> 01:03:20,039
you know what's funny. Our cousin in Mexico, he's more

1321
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:23,079
like another son of our grandparents, but to us he's

1322
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:25,840
our cousin. But he was raised by them, not by

1323
01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:30,800
his like our uncle. And he had briefly a girlfriend

1324
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:35,559
that had a child. And when people like our Urtas

1325
01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:37,920
and our Willie that we're mad at him for the yeah,

1326
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:41,800
And he was like, what about Christina, she's literally married

1327
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:47,039
to like and they're like states, he's a different No, yeah,

1328
01:03:47,199 --> 01:03:50,039
she's American, Like, it's not the same. Those values are

1329
01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:52,559
not the same. So it just goes to show how

1330
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:53,920
this is ingrained.

1331
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 2: That's right.

1332
01:03:56,119 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 1: So in that sense, honestly, Nana was very relatable and

1333
01:04:00,159 --> 01:04:04,280
sense so I can't I can like for me, it's

1334
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:08,239
a little more even because of that, but still Nestor

1335
01:04:08,519 --> 01:04:11,599
in other ways, like it's it's really a mix of

1336
01:04:11,639 --> 01:04:14,079
both of them. Yeah, I would agree with you, because

1337
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:16,679
it's like, yeah, like seeing yourself in the underdog, because

1338
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:19,079
you're more like, yeah that because you are the under

1339
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:23,039
you are the working because you are better. You are

1340
01:04:23,039 --> 01:04:29,000
a freelancer. I am a freelance. Yeah, I am a

1341
01:04:29,039 --> 01:04:34,480
working woman nine to five, sort of like a rodeo,

1342
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:40,320
the rodeo of capitalism that we're on. Yeah, that we

1343
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,559
can't escape. And so in that sense, yes, we I

1344
01:04:44,599 --> 01:04:48,239
relate a lot more to Nestor than the the owner

1345
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:54,199
class the Yes, but in a sense there's also things

1346
01:04:54,199 --> 01:04:56,599
that are I mean, she's a woman transcend class.

1347
01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: She's a woman exactly. Yeah that.

1348
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,599
Speaker 1: Yes, Yeah, So I honestly I found them both me too.

1349
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:05,480
It was like a mix, a mix of like who

1350
01:05:05,679 --> 01:05:08,679
do I And I didn't find either like unlikable, Like

1351
01:05:08,760 --> 01:05:11,840
both of them had their flaws, but both of them

1352
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:17,519
were well rounded, you know, yeah, full flesh characters. Yeah,

1353
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,880
our listener. I found they were both relatable, but found

1354
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,119
to be more like nest.

1355
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 2: Oh my god, not us being the same.

1356
01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the sense of not being able to share

1357
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:29,639
emotions most of the times. And like pushing everything back,

1358
01:05:29,719 --> 01:05:32,960
and I mean, yeah, yeah, all right, next one, thinking

1359
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:36,119
about the previous question, do you think either Nana or

1360
01:05:36,199 --> 01:05:38,920
Nestor had a point in their arguments? Who do you

1361
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,440
think benefited most from their disagreements. I feel like Nana

1362
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:46,559
benefited more because I feel like she was able to

1363
01:05:46,679 --> 01:05:51,280
learn new perspectives from their arguments that she had never

1364
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:55,880
considered before, and so for her it was more character

1365
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,360
developing than for Nestor.

1366
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I agree.

1367
01:06:00,519 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: So our listener said each person was basing their arguments

1368
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,920
on their own perspectives and did not understand the or

1369
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,760
did not stop to understand the other person. And half

1370
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,480
the time, I think that was correct because Na was

1371
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:15,199
so also so stubborn. They were both so stubborn, And

1372
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:16,960
I love that because I'm also stubborn.

1373
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:17,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.

1374
01:06:18,639 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: I feel like it's only like, really one or two

1375
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,280
of their arguments where she ponders it later. Yeah yeah,

1376
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:25,719
And I feel like he does the same, like he

1377
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,440
ponders about what she says later, but in the moment,

1378
01:06:28,519 --> 01:06:31,000
it's just like, you know, back and forth and know

1379
01:06:31,239 --> 01:06:34,599
it's not going anywhere. Yeah, unless they start making out.

1380
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:39,000
The next one, the story is sad in eighteen forties Mexico.

1381
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:41,360
Did you have any expectations of what this time period

1382
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,360
would have been like? What did you learn from this novel?

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01:06:43,519 --> 01:06:46,159
And honestly, like I had, I knew what this time

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01:06:46,199 --> 01:06:48,199
period was like because of all of our research of

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01:06:48,199 --> 01:06:50,920
his studios that know me too. I don't think anything

1386
01:06:51,199 --> 01:06:54,440
surprised me. But it's always interesting to read about that

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01:06:54,519 --> 01:06:55,159
time period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Same.

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01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 1: So the next one, Mama and Papa were tough on

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01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:03,199
both Nana and in the story. Did you understand their reasoning? No,

1391
01:07:03,639 --> 01:07:06,800
I understood it, but I didn't agree with it. But

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01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:10,480
I understood it, I did. No, I agree, there's besides

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01:07:10,599 --> 01:07:16,199
the societal expectations, they were also looking out for their

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01:07:16,719 --> 01:07:21,480
land and their heirs, and they're maintaining the relationships with

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01:07:21,599 --> 01:07:25,480
the people like them, you know, the family name, the honor.

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Speaker 2: But I didn't agree. Yeah, but I understood. But yeah,

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01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:31,400
but I got it. But I didn't like it, but

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I got yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, our listener, it seemed to me that the parents'

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01:07:34,519 --> 01:07:36,559
main concern was to keep the family's honor and for

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01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:38,840
everyone to view Nna as a respectable woman.

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01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,199
Speaker 1: I imagine those times. Many just had the mindset of

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01:07:42,239 --> 01:07:44,199
things or just the way they are. I feel like,

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01:07:44,239 --> 01:07:46,239
even to this day, there are parents who don't have

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01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:48,679
bad intentions, but they only follow one path.

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01:07:49,039 --> 01:07:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah. Better said than ust.

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01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 1: Thank you.

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01:07:52,599 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 2: Always, it's always. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Did you see any parallels between the humans and the

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:07:59,960
vampires of the story.

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01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 2: I did, because with whom.

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01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: Both both Neston and Nana are trapped by the society

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01:08:10,199 --> 01:08:13,400
that they live in, right by the time period that

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01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:19,439
they you know, exist in, and likewise, the vampires are

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01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,439
trapped by their circumstances of being trapped by the climate.

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Speaker 2: I love.

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01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 1: I lost my my you know it was it was

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,680
good and I lost it.

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Speaker 2: I did. But I think people know what I'm saying.

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It started out and then just went.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like when Michael Scott starts saying a sentence and

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01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:39,880
then kind of just feel where it's going to go,

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01:08:40,039 --> 01:08:40,680
like you don't know.

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01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:42,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just make it up as you go. Yes,

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01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:45,319
that was me right now. But I mean the vampires

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01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:46,199
were also trapped.

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01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were all trapped and they had to be

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01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:52,760
freed by by the end, yes, by the end, all

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01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:56,840
three were freed, and in a in a bigger sense,

1431
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:00,479
her family was also freed of having to maintain these

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01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,279
expectations and finally like, yeah, our daughters, it's not the

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01:09:04,319 --> 01:09:06,279
end of the world if she is happy with the

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01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:10,680
man that she loves in their own land, like yeah,

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01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,840
And in this way, they see her as a human being,

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01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,000
not just as a you know, property or piece of

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01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:21,119
you know, a tool to extension of themselves that they boss.

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01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,680
Speaker 2: Around and you know, tell what to do at all times.

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01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:25,840
Speaker 1: In the same way that the vampires are no longer

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01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,640
a tool of the white man, right right, they are

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01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:33,560
free and and yeah, so yeah, we found it, we

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01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,880
found it, we did we we came to it at

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:40,359
the end, our listener, the vampires were a prisoners similar

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01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:43,279
to the vacceos. They both did as they were told

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01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:44,159
to stay alive.

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01:09:44,399 --> 01:09:47,199
Speaker 2: Oh so I only talked about.

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01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:53,159
Speaker 1: But it is same for nest But yeah, same, same, same,

1448
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:57,720
big right, and and she our listener mentioned all the vacchhetos. Yeah,

1449
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,000
I was gonna say, some of the Vakettos didn't necessarily

1450
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:04,279
volunteer for this militia. They were ordered to write exactly.

1451
01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:07,319
So yeah, that is a good point. Again, our listener

1452
01:10:07,359 --> 01:10:10,039
as saying it better than us to thank you, And

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01:10:10,119 --> 01:10:13,720
I'm not surprised. What did you think of the ending.

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,479
Do you think there is more of the story to

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01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:20,079
be told? I think there is, because I'm sure there

1456
01:10:20,119 --> 01:10:22,359
won't be. But in my mind, this could go on

1457
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,880
because talked about a lot more, you know, monsters and

1458
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:30,159
gestures and masters, the Google being out there and now

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01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,079
that they have their own land, like you know, I

1460
01:10:32,119 --> 01:10:34,239
don't know. They could just be gazing at the stars

1461
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:37,600
one day and come across something and there's part two.

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01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:40,399
That's true. I was gonna, I was gonna say, I

1463
01:10:40,399 --> 01:10:43,520
think the story is complete. I don't think we need more. No,

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01:10:44,279 --> 01:10:47,680
because the main thing is also their love story and

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,800
they're together, so yes, it is complete.

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01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:50,319
Speaker 2: I get that.

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01:10:51,279 --> 01:10:53,960
Speaker 1: But I would love to see them finding supernatural creatures together,

1468
01:10:54,159 --> 01:10:56,840
like to me too. Yeah, so it is over, but

1469
01:10:56,920 --> 01:11:01,079
it doesn't have to be doesn't have to be over.

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01:11:01,359 --> 01:11:04,039
We can then see their children and she's also teaching

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01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:08,399
them to be or Raccuto's and vacctras and they're all

1472
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:12,399
just this family of like fighting supernatural. Yeah, yeah, I

1473
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:18,800
would love it. Okay, so our listener, but oh yes, okay,

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01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:23,680
thank you, Yeah, I get it. Okay, so our listener, Right,

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01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,760
I did like the ending after so much time apart,

1476
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,840
nest soon and I realized they both wanted the same

1477
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:29,880
thing and that they could rely on each other. And

1478
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:31,800
then she said, I can't wait too or by the way,

1479
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:33,800
I love these book discussions. I can't wait to listen

1480
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,319
to the episode. And finally a year later, here we are, not.

1481
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:37,359
Speaker 2: A year, but.

1482
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: It's been a while, yes, months, Yeah, I'm sorry. So yeah,

1483
01:11:45,359 --> 01:11:48,560
the end, we made it. Anything to add, We did

1484
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,399
all the questions. No, let's rate it. Yeah, let's rate it,

1485
01:11:52,399 --> 01:11:54,880
all right, what's your rating? Five cucos out of five cucoats?

1486
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:57,399
Speaker 2: You were waiting for that.

1487
01:11:57,079 --> 01:12:03,279
Speaker 1: I was gonna say rinches, And then I realized that

1488
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:05,359
renchias are kind of terrible. So then I was like,

1489
01:12:05,359 --> 01:12:09,159
never mind, the riches are not a good thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1490
01:12:09,359 --> 01:12:12,640
so I don't know, five five cell containers out of

1491
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:15,000
five cell containers, five out of five.

1492
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. I loved it. I loved it.

1493
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,000
Speaker 1: There's see a lot of like criticism that this isn't

1494
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:23,000
a horror book, but you know, like we say many times,

1495
01:12:24,039 --> 01:12:28,000
horror doesn't have to be downright terrifying. The book has

1496
01:12:28,399 --> 01:12:31,840
scary moments. It does have scary moments. Yeah, and that's

1497
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:37,359
all I need. I love a combination of different things yeah, like, yeah,

1498
01:12:37,399 --> 01:12:39,560
I love getting scared, but I also love a love story,

1499
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:42,880
and I love a more prohibido love story. And so

1500
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:50,039
this book has, you know, via more probibido selina kuanga, right,

1501
01:12:50,119 --> 01:12:54,479
it has that. It has you know, fighting war, vampires,

1502
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,520
polonization history, endearing family relationships like Aguila, I love her,

1503
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:02,479
I want her to be my other Abila, and also

1504
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,760
the opposite of endearing family relationships.

1505
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:07,119
Speaker 2: Like the opposite of encanto. You know.

1506
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, this Abela rocks, not like the other Aila, and

1507
01:13:10,399 --> 01:13:12,840
a happy ending like what more can you ask for?

1508
01:13:13,119 --> 01:13:15,479
And in the end, the monster was not what you

1509
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:18,640
thought it was. So yeah, that's why we rated it

1510
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,239
five cucos out of five cuckos. So yeah, we have

1511
01:13:21,319 --> 01:13:22,920
reached the end of the episode. If you made it

1512
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,199
this far. Wow, thank you. Oh my god, I'm starving.

1513
01:13:27,039 --> 01:13:29,359
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sorry for keeping starving.

1514
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's announce our next book before we go,

1515
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:34,680
and so you can go eat.

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01:13:35,279 --> 01:13:40,720
Speaker 2: The book's not by count. I thought you would look

1517
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,399
up name. I didn't look up. His last name is

1518
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:45,439
g o Ut.

1519
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the book is called Pinata and it is

1520
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:52,399
shorter than this one from what I've seen. You know,

1521
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:54,880
it's not a very long read. Maybe we'll get it

1522
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,119
in three months instead of eight. Well, I need to

1523
01:13:59,199 --> 01:14:02,600
finish book maybe two books before I start that one,

1524
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:06,000
so Jesus Christ. I need to finish Love in the

1525
01:14:06,039 --> 01:14:09,199
Time of Cholera, very weird book by the way, And

1526
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:12,479
I started Queenie and never finish that either, so maybe

1527
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:13,640
I should finish them before.

1528
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:15,920
Speaker 2: But that would be a quick read. Maybe you should

1529
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,079
stop starting other books.

1530
01:14:17,119 --> 01:14:19,279
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I do plan to stop after this.

1531
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:24,319
Also never finished. You misrepresented my status of reading a

1532
01:14:24,359 --> 01:14:27,920
book in a previous episode, my bad and the previously

1533
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,239
I did. I misrepresent a lot about you. When you're

1534
01:14:30,359 --> 01:14:33,439
not on with me, I get a lot of things wrong. Misinformation, yeah,

1535
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:34,479
spreading misinformation?

1536
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,039
Speaker 2: Are me me? Yes? Yeah?

1537
01:14:36,119 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: I have to finish reading a book for known about

1538
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:42,479
a crash in California. After that, I will reap be

1539
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,119
at that. So honestly I'll be starting Piata that pretty soon.

1540
01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:47,119
So that is our book, the next book, and I

1541
01:14:47,159 --> 01:14:50,399
will be standing out in the newsletter. So yeah, if

1542
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,319
you know you're not signed up for the newsletter and

1543
01:14:52,359 --> 01:14:54,439
you want to be, click the link in the show

1544
01:14:54,439 --> 01:14:56,880
notes that will just give you updates on when we

1545
01:14:56,920 --> 01:15:00,279
pick a new book, it'll send you the me I

1546
01:15:00,279 --> 01:15:01,079
will send you the.

1547
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 2: I will send you.

1548
01:15:03,399 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 1: The book club discussion questions and when about new book

1549
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:08,760
is chosen as well as maybe I haven't done it,

1550
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,000
but like a summary of our answers and newsletter form,

1551
01:15:12,079 --> 01:15:12,600
I don't know yet.

1552
01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:14,159
Speaker 2: I don't know about that one. Probably not.

1553
01:15:14,279 --> 01:15:16,640
Speaker 1: Actually it's a lot of work, just the new books. Yeah,

1554
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,560
and the questions.

1555
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 2: That's what.

1556
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 1: Maybe if we had better answers, I could see the

1557
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,000
word than that, but honestly we don't. Honestly, our listener

1558
01:15:24,039 --> 01:15:25,359
had better answers and I love that.

1559
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Yeah.

1560
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:31,359
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you want your answers included in these episodes,

1561
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:35,159
send answer them in that newsletter. I also do these

1562
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:37,800
posts on Patreon, where it's free for everyone to see,

1563
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:39,920
so you can answer on there. The questions are not

1564
01:15:40,079 --> 01:15:42,800
like behind a paywall. This episode will be out free

1565
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:44,920
on there for free for everyone too. I don't know

1566
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:46,199
why I'm saying that we're going to lose that on

1567
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:48,720
AD so I'm just kidding. So that's gonna be there too.

1568
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:50,920
And yeah, so that's another place where you can be

1569
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:53,199
a part of the book club is Patreon, and that

1570
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,239
part of Patreon is free the book club and I

1571
01:15:56,319 --> 01:15:58,079
said it before, but I still don't know how to

1572
01:15:58,119 --> 01:16:01,239
set it up where I want to do these discussions

1573
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,760
live like with the Patreon members, so people can answer

1574
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:06,359
on the SPA.

1575
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 2: But again I don't know how to do that yet.

1576
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:08,840
So we'll figure it out.

1577
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 1: And all right, Carmen's dying, so I will we will go.

1578
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:16,720
So I don't know, make friends with vampires and you

1579
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,840
know they're not the real monsters. Real monsters are lading,

1580
01:16:20,079 --> 01:16:23,439
just not the Googles. Yeah, we should make that a sticker.

1581
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:27,079
All right, Stay spooky everyone, We'll catch you next time.

1582
01:16:27,279 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 2: Bye bye.

1583
01:16:28,399 --> 01:16:31,239
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Speaker 2: There's also a hat.

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Speaker 1: There's a no Mamus shirt which is a fan favorite.

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and we appreciate every single listen. Thank you so much.

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Stay as spooky