WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:12.039 M Congo. 2 00:00:12.359 --> 00:00:15.919 It's not Jurassic Park because gorillas aren't dinosaurs. 3 00:00:16.480 --> 00:00:18.960 What okay, so far, I'm going to need a minute 4 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:19.839 to unpack that. 5 00:00:20.160 --> 00:00:23.519 I think Michael Creighton might just have a problem with cohesion. 6 00:00:23.879 --> 00:00:25.440 Libry sucks. Thanks for nothing. 7 00:00:25.879 --> 00:00:28.000 Do you know what deceased author? I would absolutely have 8 00:00:28.039 --> 00:00:28.440 sex with? 9 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:32.039 What is this hot garbage? 10 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:32.560 Oh? 11 00:00:32.679 --> 00:00:35.240 Guys, is Michael Crichton canceled? 12 00:00:36.960 --> 00:00:38.439 It would have been really cool if at the end 13 00:00:38.520 --> 00:00:42.280 she said Amy bad gorilla cigarette. 14 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:53.079 Yeah? 15 00:00:53.759 --> 00:00:59.679 Well, everyone, welcome, bad guy. 16 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:02.520 So excited to be back. 17 00:01:02.640 --> 00:01:05.400 We've got a great book and we got some great guests. 18 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:09.079 So great, we have great Okay, fine, well the book 19 00:01:09.159 --> 00:01:10.959 is Congo by Michael Crichton. 20 00:01:11.480 --> 00:01:12.079 Woooo. 21 00:01:12.840 --> 00:01:14.480 I was pushing for this book. 22 00:01:14.239 --> 00:01:18.319 For Yes, I was too. That's Clara, you're hearing. I'm Sarah. 23 00:01:18.439 --> 00:01:19.079 This is Clara. 24 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:20.000 We also have Johnna. 25 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:20.799 Hi. 26 00:01:21.000 --> 00:01:24.200 Here's my voice, yes Rina, what you guys? Yes, also 27 00:01:24.280 --> 00:01:25.719 my voice. And if this is your. 28 00:01:25.599 --> 00:01:29.079 First time listening, we are Mean book club and we 29 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:32.079 read New York Times bestsellers that we don't think should 30 00:01:32.120 --> 00:01:33.319 be Clara. 31 00:01:33.640 --> 00:01:35.959 We've got other people here. Do you want to we have. 32 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:38.439 We are very lucky today because we have not one 33 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:42.480 great guest, but two great guests, Colin O'Brien and Michael. 34 00:01:42.280 --> 00:01:47.280 Whoa Hello, thank you for having us excited to be. 35 00:01:47.760 --> 00:01:51.599 Colin is a writer and performer and producer. In twenty sixteen, 36 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:53.760 he was selected as one of the New Phases of 37 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:56.239 Comedy at the Just for Laughs Festival in Montreal. 38 00:01:56.439 --> 00:02:00.879 I don't stop there. Michael is a comedian, are and director. 39 00:02:00.920 --> 00:02:03.799 His work can be seen on Comedy Central MTV. And 40 00:02:03.840 --> 00:02:05.319 you guessed it, i FC. 41 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:06.159 I didn't guess that. 42 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:11.719 Together, they host Literati, a podcast about the greatest American 43 00:02:11.800 --> 00:02:13.240 novels never written. 44 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:15.800 Wow, so literature lovers over here. 45 00:02:16.120 --> 00:02:18.319 Yes, it's a lot like your podcast, except we do 46 00:02:18.400 --> 00:02:22.919 less actual reading or kind of throwing our own back. 47 00:02:23.039 --> 00:02:25.000 To be clear, some of us don't do that. The reading. 48 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:29.639 I pretty much relish before, rely on what I've heard 49 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:32.719 about books for our podcast. No actual reading. 50 00:02:32.800 --> 00:02:33.879 What have you heard about them? 51 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:34.639 You know? 52 00:02:34.719 --> 00:02:37.919 The stuff like the the you know is the best 53 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.240 of time's worst of times. I've heard that around, never 54 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.599 actually read a lot of jokes based off of that 55 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.560 of the Big Whale and Moby Dick. 56 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:48.280 Somebody's got to get that dressed up? 57 00:02:48.360 --> 00:02:51.159 Is in for Halloween? Once at school, you had you 58 00:02:51.280 --> 00:02:52.000 dressed up as a. 59 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:57.520 Literary character for extra credit for Halloween. The Big Whale 60 00:02:57.680 --> 00:02:58.400 chows a big whale? 61 00:02:58.439 --> 00:02:59.680 How did you though? I like that. 62 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:02.199 I had a box and I painted it white and 63 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:03.680 cut a hole in the center. And then my friend 64 00:03:03.719 --> 00:03:06.199 at school was Captain Aheb and he did tackle me 65 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:07.080 inside the box. 66 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:14.800 And my very first Halloween costume, my mom put me 67 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.000 like cut a hole in the bottom of a paper 68 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.800 grocery bag and then two armholes and then they've just 69 00:03:19.879 --> 00:03:24.280 filled it with like milk carton, empty egg carton. I 70 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:30.080 essentially went as Trashween. Bring the costume back at the 71 00:03:30.159 --> 00:03:30.680 end of the night. 72 00:03:31.280 --> 00:03:36.159 Wow, amazing, amazing. So you guys made us read this book? 73 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:36.520 Why? 74 00:03:37.000 --> 00:03:42.400 Yeah, well we only had two options go to the 75 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:45.319 library of whatever you want. You made us read a 76 00:03:45.360 --> 00:03:48.639 book and we were like shots fired. Longo it is? 77 00:03:48.759 --> 00:03:51.759 And then what made you pick Kongo out of your selections? 78 00:03:51.840 --> 00:03:53.759 I'm very excited to hear Collin's answer. I don't know 79 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:57.719 if Colin knows my answer. I grew up loving Michael Crichton. 80 00:03:57.960 --> 00:03:59.840 He was one of the first authors that I read. 81 00:04:00.039 --> 00:04:04.240 That's very interesting. We're friends. One of the first authors 82 00:04:04.240 --> 00:04:05.960 that I would read a lot of when I got 83 00:04:05.960 --> 00:04:08.719 out of like strictly children's books because they were in 84 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:12.639 my basement. My dad read them, and I liked feeling 85 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.800 like I was learning a little bit, and I thought 86 00:04:15.840 --> 00:04:18.800 that there were like really great exciting adventure novels that 87 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:22.519 I could also then use to like tout different science facts. 88 00:04:22.519 --> 00:04:25.439 I also read all fifty three Anamorph's books plus the Specials, 89 00:04:26.439 --> 00:04:30.279 which wasn't another like kind of adventurous kind of science book. 90 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:35.079 This one I had not read, and I don't like it. 91 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.879 It makes me wonder if I actually would enjoy the 92 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:39.519 Michael Crichton books that I read as a kid. 93 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:40.600 How did you guys? 94 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:45.199 Oh wait, I mean, I know I speak for Colin Colin, 95 00:04:45.600 --> 00:04:52.839 why do you so? I mean, we have a running 96 00:04:52.879 --> 00:04:55.720 bit about how much we love Michael Crichton, So that 97 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:57.480 was sort of like, this is a good reason to 98 00:04:57.519 --> 00:04:58.480 read Michael Krechton. 99 00:04:58.639 --> 00:04:59.079 Yeah. 100 00:04:59.120 --> 00:05:02.879 But then also similarly, I like as a kid, like 101 00:05:02.959 --> 00:05:06.240 Jurassic Park was I was not allowed to see as 102 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.079 a kid, and I saw it and really liked it. 103 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.439 And then I found out that Congo was also like 104 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.920 based on like a book by Michael before. 105 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:18.399 It's the same book really very close, like first draft 106 00:05:18.560 --> 00:05:21.639 of Jurassic he wrote this first, right, yes he did. 107 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.319 He definitely felt like, Okay, I got to go on 108 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:26.120 a big adventure with some kind of crazy animal or whatever. 109 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:28.879 We need a bookish scientist. 110 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:33.279 Yeah yeah, but at least with Jurassic Park, people can't 111 00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:34.959 claim you're racist, right. 112 00:05:35.079 --> 00:05:36.879 Yeah the book. 113 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:42.040 Maybe they could the book, Yeah, so go ahead. 114 00:05:42.199 --> 00:05:42.399 One. 115 00:05:42.519 --> 00:05:45.000 One other thing is that we do sometimes joke when 116 00:05:45.000 --> 00:05:47.079 when we've done the live show about Congo as a 117 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:50.079 book and having read it, and we always would make 118 00:05:50.120 --> 00:05:53.920 a joke about like, oh, it's such a big monkey, 119 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:57.360 thinking that it was about one big monkey, and Jill 120 00:05:57.800 --> 00:05:59.519 about halfway through the book that I was like, there's 121 00:05:59.600 --> 00:06:00.319 lots of the god. 122 00:06:01.839 --> 00:06:06.879 Yeah, yeah, yeah, not at all. It's about a gorillas actually, 123 00:06:06.920 --> 00:06:10.839 like we don't a new breed of gorilla totally. I'm 124 00:06:10.879 --> 00:06:14.279 actually curious because the real person pushing Congo was Clara for. 125 00:06:14.720 --> 00:06:15.759 Yes, a year. 126 00:06:16.040 --> 00:06:19.160 Yeah, and I really want to know why animals. 127 00:06:20.199 --> 00:06:20.399 Yeah. 128 00:06:20.879 --> 00:06:23.040 I thought i'd also say that when you sent us 129 00:06:23.040 --> 00:06:25.560 the email giving us the option to choose the book, 130 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:33.360 Congo was in bold and Dianetics was in like eight 131 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:34.920 font where yeah. 132 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.319 Yeah, subliminal gotcha, gotcha. 133 00:06:39.000 --> 00:06:40.319 So it's dianetics. 134 00:06:41.639 --> 00:06:43.720 We like to do a little up top just let 135 00:06:43.800 --> 00:06:46.000 people know how we read the book, because we usually 136 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:47.399 read it a million different ways. 137 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:49.839 So how had you guys read the audiobook? Did you 138 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:51.600 steal it? You know, et cetera. 139 00:06:52.040 --> 00:06:58.560 I found an ebook from a less than reputable source, 140 00:07:00.000 --> 00:07:03.000 Claire option, but it was definitely from a site that 141 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:05.279 had a lot of bandrads for things I did not click. 142 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.720 But the font was so bad, you know in movies, 143 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:12.839 the type of font that's on computers when they're hacking, 144 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.439 and it's like yeah, robotic, very yeah. And so I 145 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.279 ended up saying I can't read this anymore, and I 146 00:07:19.360 --> 00:07:24.000 just got it from Amazon as an e book. Okay, okay, Yeah. 147 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:27.000 I did an audio book that I found a link 148 00:07:27.079 --> 00:07:29.000 for it on YouTube, So I guess you could say 149 00:07:29.040 --> 00:07:29.720 I stole it. 150 00:07:30.120 --> 00:07:33.560 Uh yeah, we also stole it all nice work. 151 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.079 Yeah, so it was an audio book. 152 00:07:35.360 --> 00:07:38.680 I think Claire would appreciate that. You still usually steals PDFs. 153 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:40.360 Oh yeah, how did you read it? 154 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.240 However, this time I have. 155 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:46.720 Another bone to pick with the library. 156 00:07:47.079 --> 00:07:52.480 I got abody's. 157 00:07:50.000 --> 00:07:50.720 Taking them down. 158 00:07:50.800 --> 00:07:52.519 Those pricks have been can I say pricks? 159 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:54.040 Yeah? Briggs. 160 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:57.040 I've been rubbing it in our faces for two Yeah, you. 161 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:58.600 Can say way more than pricks on. 162 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:02.759 The podloaded a book, an ebook from the library. Great, 163 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:05.920 I'm reading the book, I'm highlighting, I'm taking notes. Then 164 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.519 they say, okay, it's due, No problem, I'll renew it. 165 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:11.519 Can't renew it. Somebody's waiting for somebody desperately needs this 166 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:13.360 book from nineteen eighty who else? 167 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:14.759 Who else might have won in the book. 168 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:16.959 Well, I thought it might have been one of you creeps. 169 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:18.240 It wasn't. 170 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:23.160 But then so anyway, I had to give it up. Okay, fine, 171 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:26.480 I hope all my notes saved then I could get 172 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.120 it out again. So I put it on hold as 173 00:08:28.120 --> 00:08:32.159 soon as I could not in the you download it 174 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.879 and then once it's downloaded, you can do notes on your. 175 00:08:35.720 --> 00:08:36.600 Phone, Nancy. 176 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:39.440 So I put it on hold. A few days later, 177 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:41.759 I got it back. All my notes are gone. 178 00:08:42.279 --> 00:08:47.720 Well yeah, obviously no, can't the app remember that? 179 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:50.279 And just like keep my note I. 180 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:56.120 Had a digital copy another person, clear, Yeah I wouldn't. 181 00:08:56.399 --> 00:08:57.960 I don't think I would have assumed they would have. 182 00:08:57.919 --> 00:09:00.279 Saved an e book for like a certain. 183 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.240 Yeah, yeah, you do give it. 184 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:03.960 It's a life needs it. 185 00:09:04.240 --> 00:09:07.799 Yeah, library, so I've already done it. 186 00:09:07.840 --> 00:09:10.919 I got overdrive, which is the app when. 187 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:13.120 I use Libby, which is the same. 188 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:13.519 Thing I use. 189 00:09:16.279 --> 00:09:17.600 Every time I do it, and never I want to 190 00:09:17.639 --> 00:09:19.360 read a book, They're like, no, there are no copies. 191 00:09:19.399 --> 00:09:22.799 Maybe if you lived in Westchester, but so I can never. 192 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:23.120 Really. 193 00:09:23.240 --> 00:09:29.240 Yeah, libraries or library suck. Thanks for nothing, I can't 194 00:09:29.279 --> 00:09:30.159 name one. 195 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:32.360 I vote in a free vote at my library, a 196 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:34.159 free book twice, but they. 197 00:09:34.279 --> 00:09:35.080 Yeah, my notes. 198 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.519 I voted a my local public school, which is great 199 00:09:37.519 --> 00:09:39.399 because I'm there anyway, and they. 200 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:41.200 Probably also have a library. You can probably. 201 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:44.360 Yeah, yeah, that's where I go for the bead bag cheers. 202 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:47.600 How did you read? 203 00:09:47.840 --> 00:09:48.600 How did I read? 204 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:53.679 Well, you guys, I got an audio book and I did. 205 00:09:53.919 --> 00:09:56.279 I was listening to it, of course on triple speed. 206 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:59.440 Of course that's the only way to listen. 207 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:03.559 You're an author. Breathe. 208 00:10:04.440 --> 00:10:08.200 I found a child's book report on it that I. 209 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:13.279 Read what what was the title? 210 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.840 Basically it was basically a summary of the book with 211 00:10:18.000 --> 00:10:22.320 like child input in it about how they felt about 212 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:26.080 certain things. They're feelings that I found a weird review 213 00:10:26.200 --> 00:10:27.000 on YouTube. 214 00:10:27.600 --> 00:10:29.720 Yeah, I just did the audio book. JOHNA. Would you 215 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:31.559 do well. 216 00:10:31.679 --> 00:10:33.799 I know I came down a little hard on Sabriathe, 217 00:10:33.840 --> 00:10:36.919 but no, no, I got it. This was a hard 218 00:10:36.919 --> 00:10:38.799 one to find. I don't know if Michael Crichton is 219 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:40.720 trying to take it out of circulation. 220 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.320 It would make Michael Crichton is dead. 221 00:10:44.440 --> 00:10:51.320 So I have sorry to hear that. People. They did 222 00:10:51.360 --> 00:10:53.200 not have it at the Strand. Everybody knows I'm kind 223 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.080 of a Strand queen. 224 00:10:55.919 --> 00:10:58.320 Yeah, you know, they've got over a mile of books. 225 00:10:58.679 --> 00:11:01.759 I do know it, Michael, I know it. I am 226 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:04.320 thirty pages away from the end, dying to know how. 227 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:06.799 Tell me what happens. 228 00:11:07.360 --> 00:11:10.159 You're gonna be ashamed of me once you see that 229 00:11:10.200 --> 00:11:12.360 I had to write down this as a summary. 230 00:11:13.120 --> 00:11:15.720 I'm already ashamed of you. Yeah. 231 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:19.799 It's a book about researchers and a smart gorilla traveling 232 00:11:19.879 --> 00:11:26.159 to the Congo where another group of explorers disappeared and where. 233 00:11:25.960 --> 00:11:30.039 They're sorry, this is so embarrassing. Lots of blue diamonds. 234 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:33.600 So it has like a lot of the stuff that, 235 00:11:33.759 --> 00:11:36.840 as we alluded to, the Jurassic Park has like explorer 236 00:11:36.919 --> 00:11:40.799 fantasy type thing, but also without the cool good parts 237 00:11:40.799 --> 00:11:46.039 of Jurassic Park. And it has a very like technical specific 238 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:49.200 type of language, kind of like boring Tom Clancy books. 239 00:11:49.240 --> 00:11:52.799 And it is boring like a Tom Clancy book. 240 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:58.279 Wow, I think if people, if you hadn't read the book, 241 00:11:58.360 --> 00:11:59.919 you're with us now caught up. 242 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:04.000 You can also just summarize it. Fun with monkeys, yeah. 243 00:12:04.000 --> 00:12:09.639 Fun with monkeys, fun and drama fun with yeah yeah 244 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:10.919 yeah yeah. 245 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:13.720 Johanna, you have a wine for us. 246 00:12:14.480 --> 00:12:16.320 So I knew that we were a big crowd tonight. 247 00:12:16.399 --> 00:12:20.000 So I got two wines, two different wines. So okay. 248 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:23.159 The first one I got is called Teddies and it 249 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:28.279 is a classique Passel Roblez California, and it has I 250 00:12:28.279 --> 00:12:30.120 got because it has a picture of a gorilla. 251 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:30.399 On the front. 252 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:32.000 Really good. 253 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:33.960 I was like, a teddy bear. 254 00:12:34.080 --> 00:12:35.440 Yeah, that is not a gorilla. 255 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:37.159 I think it's a gorilla. 256 00:12:39.159 --> 00:12:45.440 Called Teddies, Yeah, Paddington, it's a sick teddy bear. 257 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:49.039 Did teddy bears ever branch out to like other animals, 258 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:53.720 like a teddy gorilla or a teddy no bear? Interesting? 259 00:12:55.039 --> 00:12:56.759 So luckily this one has a gorilla. And then the 260 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:00.919 other one I got was Tehrone Temporie. Oh, and I 261 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:04.039 got it because Tehran is like terror and tear and 262 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:07.080 the gorillas did a lot of shredding test or. 263 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:10.360 Terror offended by John's accents? 264 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:16.039 What tehran temper oneo, temporaneo? That's right, really so hard 265 00:13:16.159 --> 00:13:16.840 that I can't. 266 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:19.360 Speaking of accents. So one thing, I had never actually 267 00:13:19.399 --> 00:13:22.480 listened to an audio book before, and I didn't really 268 00:13:23.240 --> 00:13:25.080 It makes sense listening to it now, but I didn't 269 00:13:25.120 --> 00:13:27.799 expect it before. I'm like, oh, they do all the accents, yeah, and. 270 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:28.480 All the voices. 271 00:13:29.240 --> 00:13:32.399 Impressed Sometimes I'm just impressed by how like, oh that's 272 00:13:32.440 --> 00:13:33.200 a different voice. 273 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:35.399 Oh, you're just listen to. 274 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:38.960 An audiobook that James Franco read and I don't recommend it. 275 00:13:39.840 --> 00:13:42.519 Not as much range as you'd think. Okay, it sucked 276 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:43.039 the whole time. 277 00:13:43.799 --> 00:13:47.120 Might he might have as much range as I expect? Yeah, yeah, yeah, 278 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:47.639 that's true. 279 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:49.320 That's how much range we think he has. 280 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.960 So which, So this one that Tehran wine is because 281 00:13:54.000 --> 00:13:55.919 the girl has a lot of terr hair. 282 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:57.759 And then also you can see there's a little river 283 00:13:57.840 --> 00:14:00.600 on it, like the Congo River. I think you could 284 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:01.200 just on. 285 00:14:01.200 --> 00:14:03.879 That finish the book because the river parts. In the beginning, 286 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:07.080 the river's like a big deal, but as you read 287 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.039 it becomes less and less in my world. 288 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.600 All right, So who wants the gorilla one? 289 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:17.559 I would love some girla yeah, the gorilla one. 290 00:14:17.600 --> 00:14:17.879 I think. 291 00:14:18.000 --> 00:14:20.080 Just while we're pouring, why don't we take a quick 292 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.240 commercial break. Yeah, I get the stuff, Pard, listen to 293 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:35.039 products services, and we'll be right back bye, and we're 294 00:14:35.120 --> 00:14:36.159 back all right. 295 00:14:36.200 --> 00:14:37.440 I hope you bought those things. 296 00:14:37.960 --> 00:14:40.840 Sarah was like talking to us and during the commercial break, 297 00:14:40.840 --> 00:14:45.240 and without pausing that conversation at all, seamlessly went from 298 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:47.960 a sentence, a private sentence, not meant for the audience 299 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:48.919 to welcome back. 300 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:51.159 Well, maybe it was meant for the audience, and it 301 00:14:51.200 --> 00:14:52.000 will be included. 302 00:14:52.559 --> 00:14:55.720 Audience know that during the commercials, you make us all 303 00:14:55.799 --> 00:14:58.360 sit perfectly quiet and look at each other, and everybody 304 00:14:58.399 --> 00:14:59.279 make eye contact. 305 00:15:00.039 --> 00:15:05.799 They know because they know Sarah's carrictro Is. 306 00:15:05.720 --> 00:15:11.159 Wine's supposed to have a strongly rubbing alcohol smell to 307 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:13.519 the nose of it. Because that's what I'm getting. That's 308 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.440 what I'm getting when I put this is the Teddy's 309 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:23.399 Guerrilla Gorilla. Yeah, really, I'm sorry. It's not that cheap 310 00:15:23.399 --> 00:15:24.080 of a wine. 311 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:25.159 That's a shame. 312 00:15:25.320 --> 00:15:29.120 Yeah, this one's far cheaper. So I'm I'm definitely worried 313 00:15:29.399 --> 00:15:32.919 about how this one's gonna go. That's where Teddy started? 314 00:15:33.039 --> 00:15:35.559 What is the Teddies? What kind of Yeah, maybe it's 315 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.639 the type we don't like. No, that's it. 316 00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:41.639 That's that is That actually makes sense because I think 317 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:45.720 in Congo he has some issues with like environmentalists and 318 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:46.960 animal rights activists. 319 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.879 So I feel like, yeah, he want us to have 320 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:50.879 Karen Ross. 321 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:53.799 Didn't she like didn't didn't she like she was she 322 00:15:53.840 --> 00:15:56.480 thought it was like all hype, like yeah, yeah, change 323 00:15:56.480 --> 00:15:58.840 and stuff. Yeah, yeah, very topical. 324 00:15:58.679 --> 00:16:01.639 Very topical. Wow, he really saw the future. Karen. 325 00:16:01.879 --> 00:16:05.200 This was so good female protagonist in this book. She 326 00:16:05.440 --> 00:16:07.720 is a child genius, was a child. 327 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:10.440 Yeah, I don't now twenty four. 328 00:16:10.759 --> 00:16:13.759 Right Before we start jumping into the characters, though, I 329 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:15.279 just want to give you some background. 330 00:16:15.480 --> 00:16:18.200 You get everyone apologize, maybe you'll be apologizing. 331 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:21.960 Bealf of Colin for both the literati boys. 332 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:26.480 This book, published in nineteen eighty, spent twelve weeks on 333 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:29.320 the bestseller list, and then again when it came out 334 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.120 paperback in ninety three, which is a long time. 335 00:16:32.399 --> 00:16:35.240 I thought to go, it was just hardcover. It was 336 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.720 hardcover for thirteen years. My god, did the. 337 00:16:37.799 --> 00:16:40.720 Ninety three did it? Did? It was that around Jurassic Park, 338 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:41.240 was it, like. 339 00:16:41.679 --> 00:16:44.320 No, it was a little before Jurassic Park. So I 340 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:44.799 don't know. 341 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.120 I think Jurassic Park the movie was ninety five. Maybe 342 00:16:48.159 --> 00:16:48.639 I don't remember. 343 00:16:48.639 --> 00:16:49.600 I want to say ninety three. 344 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:51.679 Actually maybe then that would make sense. Then maybe that 345 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:53.840 is what it was. That would also make sense. 346 00:16:54.159 --> 00:16:57.360 But also like why were you paperback before? Kind of rude. 347 00:16:57.519 --> 00:16:59.960 The genesis of this book is unusual for other books 348 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:03.679 compared to other books that we've read. Obviously, Michael Crichton 349 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.480 he wrote The Andromatas Stray in nineteen sixty nine. He 350 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:11.519 was in his twenties, first big hit, first book, best 351 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:14.920 you don't like, I'm. 352 00:17:14.759 --> 00:17:17.039 Glad he's dead. Honestly, I was going to say. 353 00:17:16.880 --> 00:17:20.119 That I felt uncomfortable. Yeah, me glad. 354 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.440 It was said, you know what, they love him so much, 355 00:17:22.559 --> 00:17:24.400 let's make it a movie hit movie. 356 00:17:24.519 --> 00:17:24.880 All right. 357 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.400 You know what, Crichton, do you want to write and 358 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.720 direct movies? Yes, okay, you're gonna do that. He gets 359 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.160 to do West World, he does The Great Train Robbery, 360 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:37.640 which stars Sean Connery. He's like, I love Sean Connery, 361 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.799 like the Yes, it is the same basis. 362 00:17:40.960 --> 00:17:43.680 There was a movie earlier which I that was his movie. 363 00:17:43.720 --> 00:17:44.599 He directed the movie. 364 00:17:44.720 --> 00:17:47.279 Oh yeah, but I think the movie's pretty good. It's 365 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:48.480 very fun and silly. 366 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:50.119 And the one from seventy three. 367 00:17:50.240 --> 00:17:52.880 Yeah, we like him and we don't wish he was dead. 368 00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:53.319 Wow. 369 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:54.440 Interesting, I'm still. 370 00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:56.680 Anyway. 371 00:17:57.039 --> 00:17:59.559 So he then he adapted one of his own novels, 372 00:17:59.599 --> 00:18:01.720 The Great Rain Robbery, was starring Sean Connery. 373 00:18:01.720 --> 00:18:03.319 He was like, I love Sean Connery. I'm going to 374 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:05.079 write a book for her. Okay. 375 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.680 He just wrote a book for Okay, the book. 376 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:10.880 A book with the So so this didn't start out 377 00:18:10.880 --> 00:18:12.119 as a book pitch. 378 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.359 It was a movie pitch, like he wanted him to 379 00:18:15.359 --> 00:18:15.680 play that. 380 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:17.279 He was like, there is going to be a movie, 381 00:18:17.799 --> 00:18:21.200 So he wrote this kind of He already had money 382 00:18:21.400 --> 00:18:23.359 for the movie when he wrote this, so he was 383 00:18:23.400 --> 00:18:25.240 writing screenplay and book at the same time. 384 00:18:25.400 --> 00:18:26.160 Does that make sense. 385 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.079 It's already optioned. 386 00:18:31.359 --> 00:18:33.200 Yeah, it was already it was and so can do 387 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:35.960 you guys know the role that was written for Sean Connery? 388 00:18:36.200 --> 00:18:41.440 Was it the oh, the Sam Neil roll in Jurassic Park. 389 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.480 I don't know, it was the I mean it was 390 00:18:45.480 --> 00:18:48.839 for Congo. For Congo, it didn't get me. 391 00:18:49.039 --> 00:18:52.160 Characters was written for Sean Connery pretty much. 392 00:18:52.559 --> 00:18:57.319 It was like he wanted it. 393 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:58.519 Yes, yes, yes, and it was it was option to 394 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:01.400 be a movie like before the. 395 00:19:01.400 --> 00:19:01.960 Oh my god? 396 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:02.519 Was it? 397 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:03.240 Was it Monroe? 398 00:19:03.359 --> 00:19:05.240 Was that it was Monroe? Yeah? 399 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:12.400 Yeah? And Monroe is a sort of Safari guide slash 400 00:19:12.759 --> 00:19:15.960 weapons dealer Scottish broke. 401 00:19:16.440 --> 00:19:17.039 Yeah. Yeah. 402 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.559 Someone was like, we don't need young women helping us 403 00:19:20.559 --> 00:19:21.880 out until we do. 404 00:19:22.720 --> 00:19:22.920 Yeah. 405 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:24.480 Maybe that's the till part of the book. I didn't 406 00:19:24.480 --> 00:19:24.720 get to. 407 00:19:24.880 --> 00:19:27.640 I honestly don't know why the movie fell apart, like 408 00:19:27.680 --> 00:19:30.599 why because it didn't get made till like ninety five? 409 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:31.880 Is that what we happened made after? 410 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:32.640 Yeah? 411 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:36.039 So, but I couldn't really pig out. 412 00:19:36.359 --> 00:19:39.279 Yeah, there wasn't really any goss or even about like 413 00:19:39.400 --> 00:19:41.400 why it fell apart, But it just did. 414 00:19:41.640 --> 00:19:44.400 Maybe the maybe because they read the book and they said, 415 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:45.480 I don't know. 416 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:50.319 I do not think it was like a little racist anthropomorphic, 417 00:19:50.599 --> 00:19:54.240 uh like fake ape, you know, I think that was really. 418 00:19:54.400 --> 00:19:55.680 Really did you want here? 419 00:19:55.720 --> 00:19:56.440 Watched the movie? 420 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.240 I have not seen a movie. 421 00:19:58.519 --> 00:20:00.160 I would love to make a night of it. 422 00:20:00.200 --> 00:20:01.599 So was it? I would love to do it? 423 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.759 Was it dad did in ninety five? Let's yeah? So 424 00:20:04.799 --> 00:20:06.839 you saw the movie. What do you think of the movie? Oh, 425 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:08.279 I saw that. 426 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:10.960 I saw the trailer as a kid. I was like, 427 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:12.160 this is too scary for me. 428 00:20:13.160 --> 00:20:16.200 It's hard to distinguish it too much from like King Kong. 429 00:20:16.279 --> 00:20:20.400 It is just like a scary gorilla sure takes over. 430 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:23.480 Also similar to Planet of the Apes. 431 00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:26.599 I will say a YouTuber did a review of the 432 00:20:26.640 --> 00:20:29.119 movie versus the book, and I considered watching that in 433 00:20:29.200 --> 00:20:29.839 my research. 434 00:20:30.079 --> 00:20:32.799 Yeah, thank you close think you would have an outful well, Laura, 435 00:20:32.880 --> 00:20:36.960 Lenny Tim Currier in the movie version, and apparently Sean 436 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:39.039 Sean Connery is not in it. 437 00:20:39.119 --> 00:20:41.200 He just did it. I waged out of the role. 438 00:20:41.279 --> 00:20:41.839 I'm assumed. 439 00:20:44.400 --> 00:20:46.920 Do you imagine an old man skydiving? 440 00:20:47.640 --> 00:20:50.480 Yeah, Sean Conry, he just really boxedes audition. 441 00:20:53.799 --> 00:20:56.799 Yeah, I'm the casting but anything. 442 00:20:57.000 --> 00:20:59.440 Just to go back a little bit about Crichton though, uh, 443 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:02.799 you guys probably know that he was in medical school. 444 00:21:03.599 --> 00:21:06.880 He started writing on the side to help pay for 445 00:21:06.960 --> 00:21:07.519 his tuition. 446 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:11.000 So this was just a side game that he made million. 447 00:21:11.079 --> 00:21:13.039 It's rich quick right stories. 448 00:21:14.880 --> 00:21:17.519 One of the most lasting and phenomenal stories ever told. 449 00:21:17.559 --> 00:21:18.200 Jurassic Park. 450 00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:22.839 I think you I just wanted to tell the audience 451 00:21:22.880 --> 00:21:26.279 listening at home, and if the person who reviewed us 452 00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:27.960 and said that sometimes we eat on the cast and 453 00:21:27.960 --> 00:21:31.160 it's gross is still listening. John, I took good Ship 454 00:21:31.160 --> 00:21:33.640 out of the bowl, walked out of the room, ate 455 00:21:33.680 --> 00:21:36.359 it while making eye contact with me, and it's smirking, 456 00:21:36.559 --> 00:21:37.480 and then came back. 457 00:21:37.519 --> 00:21:41.119 And you don't have to do that next time. He 458 00:21:41.160 --> 00:21:44.680 also was to the creator and executive producer of Er. 459 00:21:47.160 --> 00:21:48.400 He is so prolific. 460 00:21:48.680 --> 00:21:51.440 He really is. It's impressive. He was married five times. Okay, 461 00:21:51.440 --> 00:21:52.000 that's all I wanted. 462 00:21:52.559 --> 00:21:54.400 I remember as a kid, I was like, I can't 463 00:21:54.440 --> 00:21:57.519 be good at everything Michael Crichton stuff. I want to 464 00:21:57.519 --> 00:22:00.079 read everything. So I read his book Travels, which was 465 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.079 just like stories of his life, and I was maybe twelve, 466 00:22:03.480 --> 00:22:07.599 and he has a whole chapter about cheating on his 467 00:22:07.680 --> 00:22:11.680 wife with his busty secretary. I believed. I was like, oh, 468 00:22:11.720 --> 00:22:14.079 maybe I shouldn't. I know, they say don't meet your heroes, 469 00:22:14.119 --> 00:22:18.599 but maybe don't read your heroes autobiographical short story. 470 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:20.720 Of course, I. 471 00:22:20.599 --> 00:22:23.839 Am really delighted to know that that was your takeaway 472 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:26.519 from it and not like, yeah, I'm gonna cheat on 473 00:22:26.559 --> 00:22:28.759 my wife with my busty secretary. 474 00:22:28.799 --> 00:22:34.559 Well what musty like a basement. Was like gross, his 475 00:22:34.680 --> 00:22:37.359 wife must have been as. 476 00:22:36.880 --> 00:22:39.240 A child, I knew. I was like, something's not right here. 477 00:22:39.759 --> 00:22:42.079 You know what deceased author? I would absolutely have sex 478 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:42.920 with What is this? 479 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:43.119 Oh? 480 00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:49.400 I just assumed it was one of your segments. 481 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:50.839 Okay, I'm gonna guess. 482 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.559 The way she's looking at you was like, you definitely know. 483 00:22:55.039 --> 00:22:55.319 I know. 484 00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:56.440 I'm pretty sure. 485 00:22:56.559 --> 00:22:56.839 I know. 486 00:22:57.160 --> 00:22:59.480 Should I guess genre or no, I'm just gonna go 487 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:04.400 for it, say William Shakespeare. 488 00:23:04.960 --> 00:23:06.440 Yeah, I would sleep with all twenty of them. No, 489 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:09.519 I would sleep with Ernest was going to Oh my god, 490 00:23:09.599 --> 00:23:10.160 I would. 491 00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:12.839 He would sleep with her. 492 00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:14.960 I would be honored if he would. 493 00:23:15.079 --> 00:23:16.319 Or do you get the confidence? 494 00:23:16.519 --> 00:23:20.480 I don't know, you're right? Oh my gosh, just kind 495 00:23:20.480 --> 00:23:22.160 of his general shitty demeanor. 496 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:26.400 Wow, I don't want to know who i'd sleep with. 497 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:33.640 The have to be dead, they have to be a corpse. 498 00:23:30.799 --> 00:23:35.680 Okay, his body just disappeared. 499 00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:38.240 Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and dibbs doctor sus and. 500 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:39.119 You know what he's doing. 501 00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:48.039 So yeah, yeah, he would be freaky. I bet Oh yeah, yeah, 502 00:23:50.519 --> 00:23:51.519 Well I think we should all say. 503 00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.480 I'm going to circle back because I didn't need time 504 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:59.200 to think. Okay, okay, yeah, let's just circle back. We 505 00:23:59.359 --> 00:24:02.240 now clear. I think you wanted to dig into the characters. Yeah. 506 00:24:02.400 --> 00:24:04.400 First, I did have something to say about the movie. 507 00:24:04.680 --> 00:24:07.319 The amusement park near my home, King's Dominion, had a 508 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.680 huge congo section before the movie came out. They built 509 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:13.200 a huge congo section to try. 510 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.519 To keep up the owned. 511 00:24:15.839 --> 00:24:16.039 Yeah. 512 00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:18.079 Yeah, it's a paramount Paramount Kings Dominion. 513 00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:19.079 Where'd you grow up? 514 00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:20.440 DC area? 515 00:24:20.480 --> 00:24:25.079 Specifically Maryland? Could you get more like street street number 516 00:24:25.839 --> 00:24:27.000 the high school? Okay? 517 00:24:27.079 --> 00:24:35.519 Okay, So they were really banking on it, and nobody 518 00:24:35.559 --> 00:24:39.440 ever went in there, just even the attraction, the rides 519 00:24:39.480 --> 00:24:41.000 and stuff you go. 520 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:42.960 Was it like a jungle ride sort of? 521 00:24:43.039 --> 00:24:44.119 I don't know. I never went. 522 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:48.160 Just like a gorillas that like would pretend like they 523 00:24:48.200 --> 00:24:49.160 would crush your head. 524 00:24:49.720 --> 00:24:52.440 I can imagine. I love it, describe it like that. 525 00:24:52.519 --> 00:24:54.559 The only part I went in was a cool down 526 00:24:54.640 --> 00:24:56.279 zone where they have like missed you. 527 00:24:56.240 --> 00:24:58.720 Know, that's in every week. That's common. 528 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:00.400 Yeah, they had one congo randed. 529 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:01.559 Okay, that makes sense. 530 00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.440 Also, Colin brought up an important point the way that 531 00:25:04.480 --> 00:25:06.599 the gorillas kill people in the book. I think we 532 00:25:06.599 --> 00:25:09.079 should touch on they touch on it. 533 00:25:09.079 --> 00:25:12.680 Now they. 534 00:25:13.400 --> 00:25:16.799 Take to canoe paddles. They take made a stone, big 535 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:21.839 stone canoe paddles, and then they canoe paddle both sides 536 00:25:21.839 --> 00:25:22.319 of the head. 537 00:25:22.720 --> 00:25:24.359 They do call them stone paddles. 538 00:25:24.880 --> 00:25:28.160 I was igine, why would you say canoe paddles. 539 00:25:28.359 --> 00:25:35.880 I pictured them as canoosd I just don't all right, 540 00:25:36.039 --> 00:25:39.960 just making clear WAPs you on both sides of the head. 541 00:25:40.039 --> 00:25:41.039 That seems efficient. 542 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.920 I imagined it was kind of like those beach paddles 543 00:25:45.079 --> 00:25:46.240 you know that broke. 544 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:51.319 Yes, there's so many different types of pattles. 545 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:57.359 Youah, that's how they came up with that description. 546 00:25:58.039 --> 00:26:01.519 Talk about it really like is like squeezing an orange. 547 00:26:01.640 --> 00:26:08.559 They these apes or hum apes as we might call 548 00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.160 them later before we get to them, and they do 549 00:26:12.160 --> 00:26:14.240 show up a little the end, because all the genesis 550 00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:19.519 of the story is like, there's a extra expedition. 551 00:26:20.160 --> 00:26:21.000 That was the word I. 552 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:25.440 Want to thank you everyone embarrassing. 553 00:26:24.240 --> 00:26:28.680 Well, you just said there and said like exactly. 554 00:26:28.880 --> 00:26:33.160 Just like switched it to extra extra cool extra. 555 00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.200 It was crazy. It was going darm me crazy. 556 00:26:37.400 --> 00:26:42.119 They went on an expedition and they died and these 557 00:26:42.680 --> 00:26:44.240 you know, hum apes killed them. 558 00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:49.599 That's not what they're called them. That hpe why it's weird. 559 00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:55.880 I can't say human z because they're not chimps. So yeah, 560 00:26:55.960 --> 00:26:57.079 humrilla is pretty good. 561 00:26:57.880 --> 00:26:59.039 Bok the Elliott tensus. 562 00:26:59.720 --> 00:27:05.319 Yeah Gorilla Elliott tensis after Elliott, the man bookish scientist 563 00:27:05.400 --> 00:27:06.519 who discovers them. 564 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:10.880 Good transition into talking about the characters, just call. 565 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.039 Them big bad killer gorillas. 566 00:27:12.599 --> 00:27:17.599 Big brilla. I like killer gorilla. Peter Elliott. Uh so, 567 00:27:17.640 --> 00:27:21.359 Peter Elliott is a doctor and he has an ape 568 00:27:21.720 --> 00:27:23.480 I mean, not a metical believer, but you know. 569 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:28.359 Adjunct professor at Berkeley who is also working on a 570 00:27:28.440 --> 00:27:32.920 research project which is teaching apes to talk through sign language. 571 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:37.200 Yep, just based off of like Coco, I. 572 00:27:37.119 --> 00:27:42.559 Love Cocoa, Clary does love doctor Penny Patterson and Coco. 573 00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:46.519 You guys seen Okay, Coco is so cool. You guys 574 00:27:46.519 --> 00:27:47.680 seen the videos of her. 575 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:53.240 She loves Williams. Yes, I will say that this world, 576 00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:56.000 it's so hard to find joy and hope, but watching 577 00:27:56.079 --> 00:27:58.720 videos of Coco truly truly makes me happy to be 578 00:27:58.759 --> 00:28:01.599 totally sincere. It's like, it's amazing and beautiful. 579 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:02.519 She has a. 580 00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:04.799 Baby doll that she carries around and stuff. 581 00:28:04.920 --> 00:28:06.720 Okay, I've never really watched Cocoa. 582 00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:09.480 It's fine, people, we'll have to get into the kittens. 583 00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:11.599 She gets sad when one of our kittens passes away 584 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:12.839 and they get her news. 585 00:28:13.279 --> 00:28:15.759 And again with Robin Williams, who really is the A 586 00:28:15.960 --> 00:28:19.400 star A star in the situation, he sort of has 587 00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.559 a lot more chrisma you can see. Yeah, yeah, why 588 00:28:21.559 --> 00:28:23.160 he's in a lot of movies and Cocoa. It's just 589 00:28:23.200 --> 00:28:26.400 in these his best video it is. He just like 590 00:28:26.799 --> 00:28:29.200 they play together and he hides and she like they 591 00:28:29.200 --> 00:28:31.480 do jokes and stuff and it's very cute and funny. 592 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:32.960 I don't know why he was chosen. 593 00:28:33.000 --> 00:28:35.279 But do you think Peter Elliott would have been better 594 00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:38.319 if he was more his characters maybe more based. 595 00:28:39.440 --> 00:28:43.519 Definitely like a Patch Adam Start, Yeah exactly film. 596 00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:46.559 Yeah really, or maybe if Michael Crichton had seen some 597 00:28:46.599 --> 00:28:48.079 of these Cocoa videos, maybe the. 598 00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:49.079 Character would be better. 599 00:28:49.279 --> 00:28:50.839 That's really based off them, So I'm sure you do. 600 00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.519 I don't know, Robin Williams, that's. 601 00:28:56.519 --> 00:28:57.200 I don't know when. 602 00:29:01.799 --> 00:29:02.240 Accurate. 603 00:29:02.640 --> 00:29:06.799 So Amy is is Gorilla and the reason why they 604 00:29:06.920 --> 00:29:10.279 end up in the Congo is because Amy is having 605 00:29:10.400 --> 00:29:16.599 nightmares where she's seeing this essentially lost village of zinge, 606 00:29:16.759 --> 00:29:20.160 and he thinks that like going, I don't. 607 00:29:20.200 --> 00:29:22.039 I didn't. I'm actually saying this like this because I 608 00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.119 didn't quite understand why they were bringing Amy the age. 609 00:29:25.240 --> 00:29:29.160 She's starting to like shut down because she's having these 610 00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:34.200 nightmares and then she's drawing right right, right lost, So 611 00:29:34.599 --> 00:29:37.440 he thinks that her nightmares are about that, and he 612 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:38.559 like wants to take her there. 613 00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:41.160 Yeah, and he thinks this is something like memories can 614 00:29:41.400 --> 00:29:43.440 or can be genetically our dreams. 615 00:29:43.440 --> 00:29:45.119 Can you do him? 616 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:52.680 Yes? To invite him on the like happened, so it'll seem. 617 00:29:52.960 --> 00:29:54.279 Is that what happened. 618 00:29:55.680 --> 00:29:59.039 Us about why they can And then he was like 619 00:29:59.319 --> 00:30:01.880 she was like we're actually doing this expedition into the 620 00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:04.039 congo and he's like, I want to go, and she's like, I. 621 00:30:04.000 --> 00:30:09.000 Was actually calling for a different reason reason. It's not 622 00:30:09.119 --> 00:30:12.319 calling for to take him. It just I. 623 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:14.759 Know she just got a wrong number. 624 00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:17.880 And then he was like, yeah, actually I really want 625 00:30:17.880 --> 00:30:19.160 to go, and I've got a gorilla. 626 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:22.079 We had to go now though. 627 00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:25.319 The reason he had to go now though, was because 628 00:30:25.319 --> 00:30:28.640 the animal rights activists were trying to shut down his research. 629 00:30:28.880 --> 00:30:30.519 So he's trying to get out of there before those 630 00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:33.200 damn animal rights activists took. 631 00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.440 His thought he was going to like release Amy back 632 00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:37.200 into the wild. 633 00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:40.640 Yeh, jungle, that would make so much more sense. 634 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:42.160 But I was like, that might be nice if it 635 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:44.640 was like, oh, they're they're they're trying to take her 636 00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:48.559 for this some you know, industrialization job, or to study 637 00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:50.359 her in other ways. And I thought it was going 638 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:52.359 to be this big, beautiful thing. But this kind of 639 00:30:52.359 --> 00:30:57.640 brings me to the first point that I realized looking 640 00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:00.519 back on Michael Crichton is I don't think, at least 641 00:31:00.559 --> 00:31:02.519 for this book. He was a great writer. 642 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:07.640 A lot going on, a lot of people talking in 643 00:31:07.720 --> 00:31:11.319 technical terms, oh my god, yeah, just saying exactly what 644 00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:11.880 they feel like. 645 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.400 I recently was reading a Stephen King, which, you know, 646 00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:18.440 just to say, like Steen, I love Stephen King, and 647 00:31:18.480 --> 00:31:20.200 it's very pulpy, and it's easy to be like, oh, 648 00:31:20.200 --> 00:31:22.319 it's Stephen King. He comes out with five new books 649 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:24.559 a year. But in that the characters have these like 650 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.799 rich in our lives and his dreams. 651 00:31:26.400 --> 00:31:27.839 And haunted by dimensions. 652 00:31:28.440 --> 00:31:29.279 That's the thing. 653 00:31:29.400 --> 00:31:35.880 Yeah, And it was very much character had exactly one. 654 00:31:36.559 --> 00:31:39.279 Yes. Actually, in contrast, I would love to tell you 655 00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:44.640 how he describes Karen Ross the female leader of the expedition. 656 00:31:44.880 --> 00:31:48.440 So there's some fun quotes in the book I want 657 00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:50.599 to get to. But the main thing that he does 658 00:31:50.680 --> 00:31:55.559 is a he runs someone on Karen's team runs a 659 00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.319 computer assessment about your personality. So instead of the author, 660 00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.279 Michael Crichton, having to do the work of developing a character, 661 00:32:02.799 --> 00:32:06.559 he literally runs a computer assessment to tell the reader 662 00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:09.720 this is what we should know about Karen Ross. Good 663 00:32:09.759 --> 00:32:15.440 things highly intelligent, logical, flexible, resourceful, data intuitive, capable of 664 00:32:15.519 --> 00:32:23.640 sustained mental effort. Driven. Bad things, youthful, ruthless, tenuous human rapport, domineering, 665 00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:26.119 intellectually arrogant, driven to succeed at any cause. 666 00:32:26.119 --> 00:32:27.559 Does all sound like positives to me? 667 00:32:27.640 --> 00:32:29.519 And then at the the end it's a desire for 668 00:32:29.599 --> 00:32:33.480 success may provoke dangerously illogical responses, which. 669 00:32:33.319 --> 00:32:37.680 I guess is the most foreshadowing where it'ss like, hey, 670 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:39.559 you're going to want to know this. For about two. 671 00:32:41.759 --> 00:32:44.400 Programs that the author sees her through, which I just 672 00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:49.119 want to she's described at various times as tall and gangly, 673 00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:51.319 could be beautiful, but too cold. 674 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.960 I underline that beautiful but too cold. 675 00:32:54.680 --> 00:32:57.200 Too cold beauty. 676 00:32:57.480 --> 00:33:00.200 There is I know a lot of cold models. 677 00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:04.759 Is this based on someone who rejected Michael Brighton? She's 678 00:33:04.799 --> 00:33:06.720 actually not beautiful because she's cold. 679 00:33:07.000 --> 00:33:13.119 Here's what happens whenever she exercises. There was already a 680 00:33:13.200 --> 00:33:16.119 dark stain of sweat on her shoulder and another running 681 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:19.720 down the back of her shirt. Her dirt hurt. Her 682 00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:23.680 dark blonde hair was damp, clinging unattractively to the back 683 00:33:23.720 --> 00:33:27.079 of her head. She noticed that her trousers were wrinkled 684 00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:28.400 streaked with dirt. 685 00:33:29.200 --> 00:33:32.200 There in the middle of the jungle. They had to 686 00:33:32.279 --> 00:33:33.759 jump out of an airplane, and now. 687 00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:36.720 Let's focus on how unattractive she is. 688 00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:44.000 Cud be nice And I can't believe she didn't fall 689 00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:45.480 out of the sky graceful. 690 00:33:45.599 --> 00:33:49.839 It's I am a little surprised that she isn't like 691 00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:54.160 a busty redhead. Yeah, it threw me that she wasn't 692 00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:56.359 a busty redhead because I just don't know how to 693 00:33:56.400 --> 00:34:00.680 read women. Uh, if they're like basically got mouse brown hair, 694 00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:03.079 dark blonde is just another word for mouse brown. 695 00:34:03.160 --> 00:34:06.400 Yeah, of course, is this a book about gorillas or mice? 696 00:34:06.799 --> 00:34:07.799 Like what. 697 00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:12.280 I guess the fact like you're saying that she wasn't 698 00:34:12.280 --> 00:34:14.039 a busty redhead, should have been our tip off that 699 00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:16.119 we weren't gonna like this character or care about her. 700 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:21.920 Right well and right, So he's a good writer, a. 701 00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.320 Writer, and I liked when she was going through the 702 00:34:24.320 --> 00:34:26.840 footage early on. You get a lot of these great 703 00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:33.559 lines pan scan, she said, downpan, reverse, sweep, zoom, and 704 00:34:33.639 --> 00:34:37.559 t lock. Ross said on the tape, her voice sounds cool, 705 00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.559 almost detached, just like all of these dumb things where 706 00:34:40.559 --> 00:34:42.920 he's like, this is cool, let's uh, let's pan scan 707 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:45.760 real quick. It's just like this is so dumb and 708 00:34:45.800 --> 00:34:48.400 like that's a full line in the book, like throwing 709 00:34:48.440 --> 00:34:50.679 a little bit more like I don't know it just 710 00:34:50.800 --> 00:34:53.480 it was technical to the point of boring me. 711 00:34:53.599 --> 00:34:57.079 It seems like computers are definitely new at this time 712 00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.480 because everything is uh, computer can do it. It's like, 713 00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:04.679 how we are we going to survive this mission as computer? 714 00:35:05.239 --> 00:35:08.960 Yeah, he definitely didn't understand how computers work. 715 00:35:09.800 --> 00:35:11.719 Well, yeah, I. 716 00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:14.760 Wrote a book. I'd probably have a similar thing with 717 00:35:14.840 --> 00:35:15.920 computers where. 718 00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:21.280 Everything but yeah, I mean, but like they at the end, 719 00:35:21.360 --> 00:35:23.960 it's like he's just feeding them. They're figuring out a 720 00:35:24.000 --> 00:35:26.760 whole new language by like a satellite. 721 00:35:26.840 --> 00:35:28.280 Like it was just ridiculous. 722 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.199 It was like right, it's like, uh, you ever try 723 00:35:31.239 --> 00:35:35.679 to get cell service anywhere, and I'm sure the CONGO 724 00:35:35.760 --> 00:35:37.760 isn't gonna work with he brought your own satellite. 725 00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.760 And the whole premise with like why they're going on 726 00:35:39.800 --> 00:35:43.719 the expedition the Earth Resources Technology Services, I think that's 727 00:35:43.760 --> 00:35:47.159 what it's called. Is it is. 728 00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:53.400 Because they're looking for these diamonds, blue diamonds with boron 729 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.440 that are can conduct electricity because you know, in his uh, 730 00:35:59.000 --> 00:36:02.559 in his mind that soon like we won't have any 731 00:36:02.599 --> 00:36:05.519 need for like electricity, which kind of is said the 732 00:36:05.760 --> 00:36:09.039 thing he really failed at because we desperately we still 733 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.760 use batteries. What he imagined for the future was just 734 00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:14.960 very wrong. And that's why I think it kind of. 735 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.880 Like, yeah, they needed these diamonds to be super conductors 736 00:36:17.960 --> 00:36:20.639 for computers and that will put them on top of 737 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:21.119 the world. 738 00:36:21.280 --> 00:36:24.119 So they use this rare resource that like is very 739 00:36:24.159 --> 00:36:27.360 difficult to find and an end nuclear war. Well, if 740 00:36:27.360 --> 00:36:29.840 the book said, well, I think that's a big claim. 741 00:36:29.960 --> 00:36:33.760 It was definitely going to make one company very rich. 742 00:36:34.280 --> 00:36:37.000 And the idea of how it would end nuclear wars, 743 00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:40.159 that all wars would be fought by computer from now on. 744 00:36:40.360 --> 00:36:42.800 Okay, that was somewhat present. 745 00:36:43.039 --> 00:36:44.840 Info Wars, for example. 746 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.679 Yeah, info Wars, anything that takes place in the future, 747 00:36:49.760 --> 00:36:53.480 because people are always going to criticize you forget. I 748 00:36:53.519 --> 00:36:55.800 have any any writing idea, if it has any sort 749 00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:59.440 of time travel, it's always people traveling to the future, 750 00:36:59.480 --> 00:37:04.599 but to now from way back. Yeah, it's sort of 751 00:37:04.639 --> 00:37:07.480 a futuristic. Yeah, it takes place now, and I can 752 00:37:07.800 --> 00:37:08.519 make any. 753 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:12.800 You'd love The Michael Crayton book Timeline, Yeah, it's a 754 00:37:12.840 --> 00:37:16.440 lot of well, they travel from now to back into 755 00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:22.679 night's times. Okay times night and so not the night time. 756 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:27.199 They don't travel far, they travel like six hours, let's 757 00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:28.079 travel all the way. 758 00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:35.239 So the government has decided to award all the mineral 759 00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:39.199 exploration rights to the first like conglomerate or company that 760 00:37:39.280 --> 00:37:42.360 finds the minerals, which just sounds ridiculous. 761 00:37:42.440 --> 00:37:44.360 The whole thing. I kept thinking that the whole group 762 00:37:44.400 --> 00:37:46.440 would get a big come up and they'd be taught 763 00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.400 an environmental lesson where it's like, no, don't just leave 764 00:37:49.440 --> 00:37:52.639 all this alone, and it kind of that doesn't kind 765 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:53.800 of come the swift justice. 766 00:37:54.079 --> 00:37:57.800 Yeah, anti imperialist lesson. I mean, the lens of this 767 00:37:57.840 --> 00:38:00.880 book is definitely troubling because it's like talks about the 768 00:38:00.960 --> 00:38:04.679 Congo and basically all of Africa is like it's uncharted, 769 00:38:04.719 --> 00:38:06.199 it's completely unexplored. 770 00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:07.880 No one they're cannibals. 771 00:38:08.039 --> 00:38:10.000 Yeah, they're cannibals. All we need to do is go 772 00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:12.159 in where no one's ever been in there. And then 773 00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:17.639 they casually mentioned the people that live yeah, and it's 774 00:38:17.679 --> 00:38:18.880 like very yeah. 775 00:38:18.719 --> 00:38:22.480 It's a very is really the more racist books I 776 00:38:22.519 --> 00:38:23.960 think we've read is. 777 00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:25.440 Michael Crichton canceled. 778 00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:31.920 Is it too late? 779 00:38:32.880 --> 00:38:36.400 Because I don't even want to say this, but one 780 00:38:36.440 --> 00:38:39.440 of the conglomerates trying to get these diamonds is a 781 00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:43.360 Japanese company, and I'm not going to repeat. 782 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.440 The descriptions are awful, and they're not the character who 783 00:38:47.519 --> 00:38:50.920 I mean, they have all these like slurs that they're using, 784 00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:54.239 and the character who's calling them these slurs, at least 785 00:38:54.280 --> 00:38:57.280 in the section that I highlighted, isn't like reprimanded. There 786 00:38:57.320 --> 00:39:00.360 isn't a there isn't a point of view from the 787 00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:02.679 author or from another character that's like, look at this 788 00:39:02.880 --> 00:39:04.079 racist assholes. 789 00:39:03.880 --> 00:39:07.599 Just like this, here's a horrifying example. And this doesn't 790 00:39:07.840 --> 00:39:15.360 include any specific racist epithet epithets epithets. But this is 791 00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:21.599 describing This is describing the Japanese crew. They're in a 792 00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:25.119 plane that's being shot down. Elliott felt a sudden sympathy 793 00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:27.760 for the crew. He imagined them staring out the windows 794 00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:31.039 as the fireballs exploded, with brilliant light illuminating the interior 795 00:39:31.079 --> 00:39:34.840 of the plane. Were they chattering in Japanese? It's like 796 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:40.360 they're probably speaking their language. Yeah, they're probably having a 797 00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.079 conversation in the language that they speak to describe it 798 00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:47.360 as like, were they chattering? Yeah, it's so like humanizing, 799 00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:49.760 and it totally dehumanizes. 800 00:39:49.000 --> 00:39:53.559 Hands shown up in like other Michael Crichton books, only 801 00:39:54.239 --> 00:39:56.599 The Great Train Robbery and. 802 00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:57.960 Well where there's all white people. 803 00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:02.360 But yeah, that's time introducing other ethnicities in that way 804 00:40:02.480 --> 00:40:06.360 because like all the white and then the like the 805 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:09.079 people who die are all like the black porters or 806 00:40:09.119 --> 00:40:13.039 like the guides or the guy, like they all doesn't 807 00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.320 seem like anybody cares after they die. 808 00:40:15.360 --> 00:40:19.199 Do you know what the expedition does. They have champagne 809 00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:21.960 because some of the porters have died. They're attacked by 810 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:25.559 gorillas and there they have they pop champagne. 811 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.159 To be fair to Michael Crichton, there are also in 812 00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:32.840 the very beginning of the book, there is a previous 813 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:36.880 expedition from Ross's Karen Ross's group. That's how the book 814 00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.400 opens with them getting all smashed up, and no one 815 00:40:39.440 --> 00:40:40.320 mourns them either. 816 00:40:40.480 --> 00:40:43.920 They're white, and they're a fair. 817 00:40:43.800 --> 00:40:47.039 To Michael Crichton. All they had was champagne. It's not 818 00:40:47.079 --> 00:40:52.159 like they chose to d with the most bubbles. This 819 00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:53.480 is just what they had to drink. 820 00:40:53.599 --> 00:40:56.199 Well, okay, then find I will rebut that by saying 821 00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:59.800 a little while after another porter dies, they describe Elliott 822 00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:05.719 as looking around. Elliott was bored. That's the emotion you're being. 823 00:41:06.000 --> 00:41:06.960 He's bored right now. 824 00:41:07.480 --> 00:41:07.760 Correct. 825 00:41:08.599 --> 00:41:11.840 The start of it, it was like, Okay, they're all smashed, 826 00:41:11.960 --> 00:41:14.920 our coworkers are all smashed. We have to send another 827 00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.280 expedition in. No one is afraid of dying, No one is. 828 00:41:18.400 --> 00:41:20.719 The closest we get to mourning them is like some 829 00:41:20.840 --> 00:41:23.199 boss is like, I'm gonna have to tell their families, 830 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:24.000 but not yet. 831 00:41:24.039 --> 00:41:26.559 I'll do a day, honestly, in thirty days. And also 832 00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:29.079 they all had fifteen thousand dollars worth of life insurance, 833 00:41:29.119 --> 00:41:30.280 so they'll be fine. 834 00:41:30.400 --> 00:41:32.840 Yeah, it's the money went a lot further. 835 00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:37.079 Back there nineteen eighty guys, let's take a quick commercial break. 836 00:41:37.119 --> 00:41:45.320 I'm tired of this, okay, welcome back. 837 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.480 If there was any message from this book, it did 838 00:41:47.519 --> 00:41:50.719 seem like anti capitalist. That was like the only thing 839 00:41:50.840 --> 00:41:52.400 that I could take out because I was like, I 840 00:41:52.440 --> 00:41:56.840 guess they all everyone got great tried yah, which is 841 00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:58.519 a frightening thing interesting to. 842 00:41:58.480 --> 00:42:02.480 Me that all these people know that they're risking their lives, 843 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:04.719 they know it's dangerous, and it's just so that their 844 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:06.599 company can be top company. 845 00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:08.400 That's so weird. 846 00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:09.320 It was It. 847 00:42:09.320 --> 00:42:14.920 Didn't feel like a larger internal motivation, like yeah, no. 848 00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:16.840 I don't know why Elliott and Amy stay on the 849 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:23.639 trip at all. R right away and why would you. 850 00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:24.920 The second Amy got kidnapped? 851 00:42:26.039 --> 00:42:30.679 Maybe so I thought the description of Amy like when 852 00:42:30.719 --> 00:42:37.280 he's when Ross Karen Ross first meets her. Yeah, and 853 00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:39.960 it's really sexist. 854 00:42:41.079 --> 00:42:43.679 Sexy, and I was waiting for a romance. 855 00:42:43.760 --> 00:42:47.280 But no, Well does anybody think that Elliott is the 856 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:57.079 father of the baby, and yeah, maybe baby? I was like, oh, 857 00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.119 is this are they furthering this new species? But the 858 00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:04.119 Amy the gorilla takes out the lipstick from Karen's bag 859 00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:07.400 and wait to start playing with it. And then he's like, oh, yeah, 860 00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:10.360 if you ignore her, she'll get distant, cold and bitchy. 861 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:13.400 And it's just like, yeah, there is quite a bit 862 00:43:13.400 --> 00:43:17.840 of sexism through descriptions of Amy. Yes, calling Amy bitchy. 863 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:18.960 It comes out nowhere. 864 00:43:18.960 --> 00:43:21.679 It's like sometimes she's a good gorilla, but sometimes she 865 00:43:21.719 --> 00:43:25.639 gets bitchy. But there's also a part where he's saying, Amy, 866 00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:30.199 I have a quote here. Amy shows very feminine traits. 867 00:43:30.559 --> 00:43:33.960 For example, she's coy, she responds to. 868 00:43:34.000 --> 00:43:41.159 Flattery, she's preoccupied with her appearance, she loves makeup, and 869 00:43:41.360 --> 00:43:44.559 she can be very fussy about the color of her sweater. 870 00:43:44.719 --> 00:43:48.480 Wow, that sounds like you, Claire. I was like. 871 00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:56.199 Feminine it also it checks out for like most movies 872 00:43:56.239 --> 00:44:05.039 where there are two female coworkers where they can't be friends. 873 00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:06.639 Honestly true and honestly, all that Karen and Amy talk 874 00:44:06.679 --> 00:44:08.079 about is Elliott. 875 00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:10.760 Does not pass. 876 00:44:12.039 --> 00:44:12.559 No, it doesn't. 877 00:44:12.920 --> 00:44:13.159 Wow. 878 00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:15.880 I just also, I mean, like, obviously it's a gorilla, 879 00:44:16.039 --> 00:44:19.440 so you can't have it. You can't have Amy on 880 00:44:19.480 --> 00:44:23.199 the like the same level as as the other cumans. 881 00:44:23.239 --> 00:44:25.599 But I really thought that he made her scene like 882 00:44:25.679 --> 00:44:29.360 this child like this. Yeah, yeah, at least I was like, 883 00:44:29.400 --> 00:44:32.320 oh you could, you could add in a I mean 884 00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:34.880 there were times that Amy helped and you know, and 885 00:44:34.920 --> 00:44:35.639 save them or. 886 00:44:35.880 --> 00:44:40.239 Or or killed them all because at the end what or. 887 00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:46.880 Spoilers please, I don't know. It was just it was 888 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:47.440 just Yeah. 889 00:44:47.559 --> 00:44:51.199 For example, I was confused about Amy's size because they 890 00:44:51.280 --> 00:44:54.360 talk about how big a gorilla is, but very often 891 00:44:54.400 --> 00:44:56.079 it's like she jumped into Elliott's arms. 892 00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:00.320 Yeah, when they like Monroe is like, I'll hold her. 893 00:45:00.719 --> 00:45:02.719 Yeah, is she a little baby. 894 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:03.960 Or she lived? 895 00:45:04.199 --> 00:45:06.519 They say that she's one hundred and thirty pounds, which Claire, 896 00:45:06.559 --> 00:45:09.679 I know, to you is a disgusting way so big. 897 00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.159 That's just grotesquely obased gorilla. 898 00:45:13.320 --> 00:45:16.159 So no one could hold hers, No. 899 00:45:16.079 --> 00:45:17.559 One could possibly hold her. 900 00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.000 Yeah, that's a lot less. 901 00:45:20.320 --> 00:45:23.599 So all of the men on this edition expedition are 902 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:27.360 extremely strong and can just carry around one hundred extremely 903 00:45:28.480 --> 00:45:35.239 extremely I'm the skinniest one of the bring up weep 904 00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:39.159 on pleasant Okay. 905 00:45:38.760 --> 00:45:40.639 I do think I could lift Amy, though, I think 906 00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:44.599 I could lift her. I could like bicip curl, I 907 00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:49.480 could those are your choices, deadlift, deadlift, put her on 908 00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:50.159 my back. 909 00:45:50.119 --> 00:45:55.000 Before they even get out, really like into the expedition, 910 00:45:55.079 --> 00:45:58.599 into the congo. Amy gets kidnapped, and it was like 911 00:45:58.639 --> 00:46:01.920 a really really scene where they're like following her collar 912 00:46:02.079 --> 00:46:05.239 tracker and then she's like and then she's like and 913 00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:07.199 that's the degree and then like there's like in a 914 00:46:07.320 --> 00:46:11.039 time crunch too, and then she fed her something and 915 00:46:11.079 --> 00:46:15.440 that was the real I just was like, like, why 916 00:46:15.480 --> 00:46:18.039 wouldn't you follow that tracker first run too? 917 00:46:18.440 --> 00:46:21.239 That pill is going to get shipped out? What is 918 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:22.960 that's a horrible idea for track? 919 00:46:23.440 --> 00:46:25.679 Did she feed her the tracker pill early on or 920 00:46:25.719 --> 00:46:27.920 like just before she was kidnapped. If she knew, then 921 00:46:28.039 --> 00:46:29.760 why did she let her get kidnapped? 922 00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:30.239 I didn't. 923 00:46:30.400 --> 00:46:33.400 Yeah, she felt something that night. She was like, I 924 00:46:33.440 --> 00:46:34.159 could be the night. 925 00:46:35.880 --> 00:46:37.159 WANs intuition. 926 00:46:38.440 --> 00:46:41.000 Or they have a hundred of them and every single night. 927 00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:47.280 We should make a parody of this where it leads 928 00:46:47.320 --> 00:46:48.719 her to a pile of gorilla ship. 929 00:46:54.840 --> 00:46:57.079 All right, really will you do that for us? 930 00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:02.239 I mean, if I recall that was another instance of racism, Yeah. 931 00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:04.360 I think you could recall set I one that it 932 00:47:04.480 --> 00:47:06.480 kind of requires us to jump ahead quite a bit. 933 00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:07.159 So let's wait. 934 00:47:07.320 --> 00:47:09.880 So yeah, I think we'll wait, But there's more racism coming. 935 00:47:09.960 --> 00:47:12.840 Stay tuned if you're a fan. 936 00:47:13.760 --> 00:47:16.239 Is that a common expression on this podcast when. 937 00:47:19.320 --> 00:47:22.079 It's pretty bad? Yeah, I would say, and this one 938 00:47:22.280 --> 00:47:24.719 written in nineteen eighty. But there are some where you're 939 00:47:24.760 --> 00:47:26.519 reading and you're like, wow, this must be from like 940 00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:29.639 the sixties or the seventies and and nine two thousand 941 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.440 and nine, and you're like, I cannot believe. 942 00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:35.159 I was on a vacation recently and I there was 943 00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:37.239 a big church sale across the street from where I 944 00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:39.960 was staying, and I went in on a Saturday, and 945 00:47:40.239 --> 00:47:43.280 everything was all all out, all very exciting, and I 946 00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:44.800 went to buy stuff and they're like, oh, the sale 947 00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:48.320 isn't until tomorrow. That's all pretty emble to me be 948 00:47:48.480 --> 00:47:50.559 pissed and not liking these church folks that they wouldn't 949 00:47:50.639 --> 00:47:52.639 let us buy anything that was all set because the 950 00:47:52.719 --> 00:47:54.760 sale wasn't actually till the next day. So I went 951 00:47:54.760 --> 00:47:56.760 back the next day got some books and I got 952 00:47:56.800 --> 00:47:59.280 Agatha Christie's and then there were none. Uh huh, I 953 00:47:59.280 --> 00:48:00.960 haven't read that much. Jack get that. Christian was like, 954 00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:03.639 this would be fun. I'm on vacation. Found out pretty 955 00:48:03.719 --> 00:48:05.880 quickly on it's very racist. 956 00:48:05.639 --> 00:48:08.480 Ten Little Indians, which is which. 957 00:48:08.239 --> 00:48:11.599 Original title was the ten little en worst and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 958 00:48:11.599 --> 00:48:13.199 what comes from I guess. 959 00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:15.519 It was like racist, change to something else racist. 960 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:16.960 And then they're like, oh, well, just take a big 961 00:48:17.000 --> 00:48:19.079 step away from that. I guess there was like a 962 00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:22.480 nursery rhyme that had like the ten little nwards and 963 00:48:22.519 --> 00:48:24.559 then that was the title of her book. Because people 964 00:48:24.559 --> 00:48:26.320 are like picked off by one of them. 965 00:48:26.320 --> 00:48:30.079 It's racist and it's plagiarism exactly, so strike too. 966 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.480 It's terrible. But again that's not even I think it 967 00:48:32.519 --> 00:48:34.760 was like nineteen forty one or something like that, which 968 00:48:34.800 --> 00:48:37.840 does you know that's a long time. It's you know, fifteen. 969 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:40.440 Years still shocking because there are. 970 00:48:40.400 --> 00:48:42.480 Some books where you read them, you're like, I thought 971 00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:47.079 this was going to be way more racist and your cats. 972 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:50.679 Yeah, Christie, it's almost because she's so like popular still 973 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:53.920 or beloved, you're like, oh, it's it hurts more. It's 974 00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:55.159 like more surprising. 975 00:48:55.360 --> 00:48:58.039 I guess I just want to say, hashtag cancel egg, 976 00:49:00.239 --> 00:49:03.159 hashtag cancel Michael Crichton, Let's just get those going. 977 00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:04.119 Let's get them going. 978 00:49:04.400 --> 00:49:07.599 Please tweet those out. Also do at meat and book Club, 979 00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:08.639 and let's. 980 00:49:08.519 --> 00:49:11.800 Just hashtag cancel jk Rowling too, because because I've had enough. 981 00:49:12.000 --> 00:49:14.000 I don't like the goblins run in the banks. I 982 00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:15.960 thought that that was anti I just don't like it 983 00:49:15.960 --> 00:49:18.920 when I haven't read and people are really into them. 984 00:49:18.960 --> 00:49:20.320 So does this just canceled? 985 00:49:20.360 --> 00:49:23.159 That's fair. Yeah, anything I haven't read is canceled. 986 00:49:23.239 --> 00:49:29.800 Okay, Okay the book, what do you want to talk about? Going? 987 00:49:29.920 --> 00:49:32.159 Can I talk a little bit about animal the way 988 00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:38.639 Amy is treated by Elliott, the scientist who supposedly loves animals. 989 00:49:38.880 --> 00:49:39.480 Yeah. 990 00:49:39.599 --> 00:49:42.719 To celebrate, he gives her cigarettes and a martini. 991 00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.599 And it immediately makes her throw up, which you should 992 00:49:47.719 --> 00:49:48.400 know that. 993 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.159 This is a you and me both, Amy. 994 00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:52.719 I thought that that was going to be like the 995 00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.320 setup to a joke. When she asked for she called 996 00:49:55.360 --> 00:49:58.800 it like she called it like green drop drink. 997 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:00.519 Green because of the olive. 998 00:50:01.039 --> 00:50:02.679 Yeah, And I thought that was going to be a joke. 999 00:50:02.719 --> 00:50:05.239 And then no, he let her drink a martini and 1000 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:06.320 have a cigarette. 1001 00:50:06.519 --> 00:50:08.960 Yeah, even though he describes her she's seven in the book, 1002 00:50:09.000 --> 00:50:11.719 which he says is like about thirteen in human years. 1003 00:50:12.559 --> 00:50:14.519 I had my first martine And you guys don't think 1004 00:50:14.519 --> 00:50:17.440 they're fuck o god. 1005 00:50:18.079 --> 00:50:20.000 You know, if it was bad enough that they were 1006 00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:24.719 popping champagne after everyone died. They're drinking Martini's on the 1007 00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:27.880 way to this place where a dead expedition happen. Like, 1008 00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:28.440 what's going on? 1009 00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:32.199 I think there might be a problem with alcohol within 1010 00:50:32.239 --> 00:50:34.199 the group, or again with Clara. 1011 00:50:34.639 --> 00:50:38.639 Michael Creighton might just have a problem with cohesion and 1012 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:41.760 write a story that fits the plot. 1013 00:50:42.400 --> 00:50:45.400 Sure, but it's exciting because they're finding a lost city 1014 00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:46.440 and that's fun. 1015 00:50:46.519 --> 00:50:47.960 Huh, Yeah, that's true. 1016 00:50:48.400 --> 00:50:51.760 They bring Yeah, it was actually I think all the 1017 00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:53.440 characters thought it was boring as well, but. 1018 00:50:53.800 --> 00:50:55.480 Didn't they here? 1019 00:50:55.719 --> 00:50:57.599 Yeah, it was described. 1020 00:50:57.159 --> 00:51:00.320 As I want like an Atlantis where you are like, 1021 00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:04.159 oh this, this entire sya is still going on and 1022 00:51:04.199 --> 00:51:07.800 like you know, it's hidden by some sort of magic 1023 00:51:07.920 --> 00:51:09.920 and basically I like fish people. 1024 00:51:10.840 --> 00:51:14.440 I would have liked fish people. Well, no, thank you. 1025 00:51:14.599 --> 00:51:16.679 If also, if your characters are bored of something in 1026 00:51:16.719 --> 00:51:19.320 the book, why would your audience be like, well, they're 1027 00:51:19.360 --> 00:51:22.800 pretty bored. But were there I'm still was just cold 1028 00:51:22.840 --> 00:51:23.440 and bored. 1029 00:51:23.880 --> 00:51:27.920 Were there less books in the past like this. 1030 00:51:27.880 --> 00:51:29.320 New technology at the time? 1031 00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:33.199 But yeah, probably. We haven't even talked about Charles Monroe, 1032 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:37.559 who's Sean Connery. He was brought on because he's a 1033 00:51:37.920 --> 00:51:42.000 obviously a great white explorer, just he knows Africa really well. 1034 00:51:42.039 --> 00:51:44.159 It was just uncomfortable to mean it was also a 1035 00:51:44.199 --> 00:51:48.039 white guy, just like okay, yeah, sure, there's just this 1036 00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:49.320 one white guy who's really good. 1037 00:51:49.400 --> 00:51:51.079 Wait, you don't trust any I. 1038 00:51:51.039 --> 00:51:54.079 Mean they didn't say he was white, right, so he 1039 00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:55.880 could have been out anything. 1040 00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.639 It was just that it was written for Sean Connery. 1041 00:51:59.039 --> 00:52:03.679 Yeah, I think he was. I think he will go ahead. 1042 00:52:04.199 --> 00:52:07.679 In the audio book, it sounded like a vaguely Scottish 1043 00:52:07.719 --> 00:52:09.079 like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1044 00:52:10.280 --> 00:52:13.639 That does feel like a trope in like adventure novels, 1045 00:52:13.639 --> 00:52:15.920 like you know, this this rugged character. But also it 1046 00:52:15.920 --> 00:52:18.679 would have been cool to make it a person who 1047 00:52:18.800 --> 00:52:20.639 lived in that area in their whole life and had this. 1048 00:52:20.920 --> 00:52:24.320 That would have been way more interesting because they do 1049 00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:26.679 establish that the character knows a lot that's going on, 1050 00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:29.880 but they don't really kind of say why, and it 1051 00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:31.920 would have made it super easy if it's like, yeah, 1052 00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:34.239 he lives here, he's from the Congo. 1053 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:38.280 He just knows things. Yeah, for some reason he comes 1054 00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:39.840 with them. Yeah. 1055 00:52:39.880 --> 00:52:42.960 There's like a bidding war where all the companies trying 1056 00:52:43.000 --> 00:52:45.039 to get to the Lost City for the diamonds, are 1057 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:46.840 bidding for him, so. 1058 00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:48.119 Many people want to die there. 1059 00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:53.519 Yeah diamonds okay, which actually, I'll be honest, I think 1060 00:52:53.559 --> 00:52:55.920 they look it's like the Hope diamond, like. 1061 00:52:55.880 --> 00:52:58.320 They're not going to use it for jewels. 1062 00:52:59.360 --> 00:53:01.280 Just when I start to look up blue diamonds, I 1063 00:53:01.320 --> 00:53:03.039 was like, Oh, these are really cool. 1064 00:53:04.320 --> 00:53:04.800 Diamonds. 1065 00:53:04.880 --> 00:53:07.480 Yeah yeah, no to be You're right, you got it 1066 00:53:07.960 --> 00:53:09.320 pretty dope. I was really annoyed. 1067 00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:12.280 I feel like the other expeditions like they were just 1068 00:53:12.400 --> 00:53:14.679 all of a sudden like gone too, where it's like 1069 00:53:14.719 --> 00:53:17.039 I like it was just sort of like, these are 1070 00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:19.719 our competitors. Oh, I guess they're gone. 1071 00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.719 There's so many things that were like dios ex machina 1072 00:53:22.719 --> 00:53:25.199 in the script, and the author even calls it out 1073 00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:27.719 like there there's a moment in the script where it's like, 1074 00:53:28.480 --> 00:53:30.280 oh man, we thought this was going to be easy, 1075 00:53:30.320 --> 00:53:33.199 and here we are facing hippos and hale and as 1076 00:53:33.199 --> 00:53:36.159 if on cue the hail stopped. It's like the Q 1077 00:53:36.480 --> 00:53:37.000 is yours? 1078 00:53:37.039 --> 00:53:37.760 You get that right? 1079 00:53:38.159 --> 00:53:43.440 Yeah, he's one of the laziest writers I have ever experienced. 1080 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:45.840 I also like that we're calling him the author and 1081 00:53:45.880 --> 00:53:48.760 the writer because hashtag canceled Michael create we won't even 1082 00:53:48.760 --> 00:53:49.880 say his name. 1083 00:53:52.760 --> 00:53:53.360 He's canceled. 1084 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.079 I'm sorry, we won't say his name. 1085 00:53:55.480 --> 00:53:57.880 That said, I do really still love the movie Jurassic Park, 1086 00:53:57.920 --> 00:53:58.960 one of my all time faves. 1087 00:53:59.519 --> 00:54:01.719 Yeah, I'm beginning to believe he has nothing to do. 1088 00:54:01.719 --> 00:54:04.480 With it, doubt it. 1089 00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.559 So our hero expedition gets to the Lost city. They 1090 00:54:10.639 --> 00:54:14.280 sent up their camp, which is a high tech fucking camp, 1091 00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:17.440 not even their tents or normal their tents or computer tents. 1092 00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:18.599 Yeah. Oh yeah. 1093 00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.079 They don't have polls because like they're NASA and they 1094 00:54:21.079 --> 00:54:22.039 don't need polls. 1095 00:54:22.280 --> 00:54:22.519 Yeah. 1096 00:54:22.760 --> 00:54:25.960 Yeah, NASA like likes them and gave them pollless tents 1097 00:54:26.079 --> 00:54:26.800 for some reason. 1098 00:54:27.639 --> 00:54:30.639 We have a description. Yeah. I think that this is 1099 00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:33.039 why this book is so shitty to read now is 1100 00:54:33.039 --> 00:54:35.599 because he's like, all these things he guessed were don't 1101 00:54:35.599 --> 00:54:37.760 even send They don't sound cool to us, and he 1102 00:54:37.880 --> 00:54:41.239 was wrong. There wasn't even anything. Yeah, it's not even like, oh, 1103 00:54:41.239 --> 00:54:42.920 we just haven't gotten there yet. It's just like, no, 1104 00:54:43.039 --> 00:54:44.679 I don't think they should. 1105 00:54:44.400 --> 00:54:48.239 Really with any any book that's like talking about stuff 1106 00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:52.800 in the future. They should change like the year of 1107 00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:54.079 the book, just keep pushing it back. 1108 00:54:54.480 --> 00:54:58.440 That's so you think this would be effective if they 1109 00:54:58.559 --> 00:55:02.599 said the year of this was like two thousand and fifty. 1110 00:55:02.639 --> 00:55:04.400 It's like a technology we haven't gotten to here. 1111 00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:09.199 So that's why this one doesn't work. Candy, it's not even. 1112 00:55:09.119 --> 00:55:12.519 You can't even make it during the year he wrote it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1113 00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:13.159 It's like. 1114 00:55:15.800 --> 00:55:19.760 This author, you're citing awful lot with Michael Crichton. 1115 00:55:20.039 --> 00:55:21.079 We have apologize. 1116 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:24.519 No, sounds like you agree with all his ideas. 1117 00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:29.920 An example of the Another good example of technology that 1118 00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:32.400 he thinks is cool that we think is boring is 1119 00:55:32.440 --> 00:55:34.440 like so much of this book is them trying to 1120 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:37.000 figure out how to get to the Congo fastest. It's like, 1121 00:55:37.280 --> 00:55:39.679 let's ask the computer for a new route. Let's ask 1122 00:55:39.719 --> 00:55:40.440 the computer. 1123 00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:40.840 For a new route. 1124 00:55:40.880 --> 00:55:44.239 It's baby, just gives you all the routes right then 1125 00:55:44.280 --> 00:55:46.599 and there. We don't need to keep checking. This isn't 1126 00:55:46.599 --> 00:55:47.719 a high stress. 1127 00:55:48.119 --> 00:55:51.360 And it automatically updates if something comes along your way 1128 00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:52.840 that's going to slow you down. 1129 00:55:53.039 --> 00:55:56.719 You don't have to re chat. Yeah, well we got 1130 00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:57.400 on the Google maps. 1131 00:55:57.440 --> 00:56:00.159 I tell you to check all the plane all the 1132 00:56:00.239 --> 00:56:04.320 David Attleborough like documentary like a Blue Planet or a 1133 00:56:04.440 --> 00:56:07.760 Blue Planet. It's like we've seen this isn't exciting. 1134 00:56:08.159 --> 00:56:10.920 Yeah, we've seen that is like, I don't know if 1135 00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:14.559 there is any place on earth that people haven't been yet. 1136 00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:18.159 And if there is, don't go there my apartment. You 1137 00:56:18.239 --> 00:56:21.880 still won't come over, Sorry, Colin, I don't like tight spaces. 1138 00:56:21.920 --> 00:56:25.880 Okay, I just you're reminding me that if you were wondering. 1139 00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:29.599 Crighton did not make it to Africa before writing this book. 1140 00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:30.280 I shot. 1141 00:56:30.480 --> 00:56:34.199 He did say that to experience volcanoes, I went to 1142 00:56:34.239 --> 00:56:37.280 Stromboli off the coast of Sicily for an. 1143 00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:41.280 Experience in the rainforest. I went to the jungles of Malaysia. 1144 00:56:41.400 --> 00:56:43.000 So he I guess, well, he didn't make it to 1145 00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:44.639 the So he just he didn't make it where he. 1146 00:56:45.119 --> 00:56:50.320 Tiling the introduction, which I did listen to, he makes 1147 00:56:50.360 --> 00:56:53.760 a big deal out of thanking the person who helped him, 1148 00:56:53.840 --> 00:56:56.760 like schedule all his travel for his extensive research, and 1149 00:56:56.800 --> 00:56:57.400 he makes it. 1150 00:56:57.599 --> 00:57:00.239 Sound like he did not want this. 1151 00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:00.599 Is from. 1152 00:57:02.039 --> 00:57:02.159 Might. 1153 00:57:02.280 --> 00:57:05.639 Eventually it was it was clear that it was in 1154 00:57:05.719 --> 00:57:07.360 preparation for writing the book. 1155 00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:08.280 Oh yeah, well he didn't. 1156 00:57:08.320 --> 00:57:10.239 You could have just gone to the Congo, buddy. 1157 00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:10.719 Wow. 1158 00:57:11.000 --> 00:57:12.880 But I guess Italy is just the same. 1159 00:57:14.800 --> 00:57:16.800 I didn't know that there was a place called Stromboli 1160 00:57:16.920 --> 00:57:18.360 and very much want to visit. 1161 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:20.559 Yeah, yeah, the. 1162 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:21.840 Land of Stromboli. 1163 00:57:22.480 --> 00:57:29.719 So, Sabrina, you have visited Africa. Oh yeah, So I 1164 00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.639 want to know were you particularly offended by the descriptions 1165 00:57:33.719 --> 00:57:35.480 in this book and the racism. 1166 00:57:35.639 --> 00:57:37.400 I don't think you have to have gone to Africa 1167 00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:38.880 to be offended by racism. 1168 00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:43.480 Oh wow, thanks for educating me. Yeah, you're right. 1169 00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:44.920 Wow, I'm offended. 1170 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:46.159 I'm offended to now. 1171 00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:48.559 Another apologist. 1172 00:57:50.079 --> 00:57:54.400 And me wearing iHeart Michael and all his ideas. 1173 00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:56.280 You're so right. 1174 00:57:56.639 --> 00:58:00.079 I won't pretend that my my two week trip to 1175 00:58:00.880 --> 00:58:04.119 eastern Africa makes me more connected to the. 1176 00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:06.039 Issue or African. 1177 00:58:07.960 --> 00:58:12.719 Behalf of all Africa, and I will I will speak 1178 00:58:12.719 --> 00:58:15.280 on behalf of all of them. 1179 00:58:15.599 --> 00:58:15.639 Know. 1180 00:58:16.320 --> 00:58:19.039 It made me excited because it was like, oh, we're 1181 00:58:19.079 --> 00:58:21.079 in Nairobi, and I was like, I was in Nairobi. 1182 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:21.840 That's fine. 1183 00:58:22.199 --> 00:58:23.679 Yeah, that just made you excited. 1184 00:58:23.800 --> 00:58:26.000 It's like when when you watch a commercial and it's 1185 00:58:26.039 --> 00:58:27.679 like a co commercial and you just have me drinking 1186 00:58:27.679 --> 00:58:28.440 a coke and you're like. 1187 00:58:28.440 --> 00:58:29.800 Yeah, exactly. 1188 00:58:31.320 --> 00:58:33.880 You would write a book called Western Massachusetts. 1189 00:58:35.440 --> 00:58:36.440 I know that valley. 1190 00:58:36.800 --> 00:58:40.199 Oh well, if yeah, if Michael Crichton, Well, never mind, 1191 00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:43.400 do you know what what was that musician that was 1192 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:50.559 going to do? Like, I didn't know that was like 1193 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:54.880 not a well known reference to. 1194 00:58:54.800 --> 00:58:56.480 Come on Phil not Illinois. 1195 00:58:57.159 --> 00:58:59.840 We'll just we'll just cut out me a second, guessing 1196 00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:00.320 my self. 1197 00:59:00.519 --> 00:59:04.079 No, absolutely, yeah him. 1198 00:59:03.960 --> 00:59:05.639 And then he did a whole big thing on the Q. 1199 00:59:07.199 --> 00:59:11.480 Yeah right, He's like, I'm going to get real specific 1200 00:59:11.559 --> 00:59:12.679 on this one highway. 1201 00:59:13.440 --> 00:59:14.719 I don't know what you're talking about, so I'm going 1202 00:59:14.760 --> 00:59:15.320 to bring it back. 1203 00:59:15.199 --> 00:59:19.519 To its many times do we have to say that 1204 00:59:20.360 --> 00:59:23.440 any music she's too skinny to listen to music? 1205 00:59:23.559 --> 00:59:24.719 Yeah, I think that is music. 1206 00:59:25.079 --> 00:59:28.400 Colin doesn't either what what he just made us? 1207 00:59:31.679 --> 00:59:32.480 I love. 1208 00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:34.760 One or the other. 1209 00:59:34.920 --> 00:59:37.719 I know it's more other people like but we don't. 1210 00:59:37.840 --> 00:59:42.480 Believe her some person who doesn't listen to me. No, 1211 00:59:42.880 --> 00:59:45.000 but she was raised to sid and so she all 1212 00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:47.880 she knows, Okay, there you go, your people. She listens 1213 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:53.000 to like not those uh songs that she was raised with. 1214 00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.239 And then I wouldn't like them either yet, Like. 1215 00:59:56.519 --> 00:59:59.000 We're listening to some song and she was like, what's 1216 00:59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.280 that crazy thing? Bump and dump and dump? That's drums 1217 01:00:03.360 --> 01:00:06.519 drums man, welcome to drums. 1218 01:00:06.599 --> 01:00:08.840 I wouldn't be surprised to hear Claire I say a 1219 01:00:08.920 --> 01:00:11.000 question like that, I know what drums are. 1220 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:18.320 Okay, wrong, already. 1221 01:00:17.760 --> 01:00:20.400 All right, while we show Claire what drums are, we're 1222 01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.360 going to send you to another commercial break. 1223 01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:23.239 We'll be right back. 1224 01:00:24.239 --> 01:00:32.199 Oh that's what it is, all. 1225 01:00:31.840 --> 01:00:38.559 Right, Hello, welcome back from commercial for you. No, I 1226 01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:40.320 mean it's been like a minute for them, so. 1227 01:00:40.280 --> 01:00:41.519 It's been a long break. 1228 01:00:41.559 --> 01:00:43.320 I just got walked in on in the showers. 1229 01:00:43.400 --> 01:00:46.360 Yeah, we were all mid bit. Sarah just went hello, 1230 01:00:46.440 --> 01:00:46.920 we're back. 1231 01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:50.880 I guys, I was in the middle of telling Childhood. 1232 01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:53.639 I don't want to hear about your dead day. 1233 01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:58.119 We did everything pretty much could there be about this 1234 01:00:58.280 --> 01:00:58.920 goddamn book. 1235 01:00:58.960 --> 01:01:00.760 I just want to say, because we haven't brought up 1236 01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:04.599 any positive things about this book, because I liked the 1237 01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:07.719 female narrator in my audio book actually meet too. She 1238 01:01:07.880 --> 01:01:09.199 sounded like Laura Lenny. 1239 01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:11.440 That's not of the book. 1240 01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.519 I liked her and I trusted her implicitly too. I 1241 01:01:15.599 --> 01:01:17.079 actually enjoyed some of the history. 1242 01:01:17.159 --> 01:01:19.519 I know this isn't everyone's bag, but like, oh, when 1243 01:01:19.519 --> 01:01:24.480 they're going into Livingstone and Morton Stanley, I was like 1244 01:01:24.800 --> 01:01:27.039 into that part of the history because I'm also very 1245 01:01:27.199 --> 01:01:30.639 It's just that Congo's history is fascinating with Belgium, and 1246 01:01:30.840 --> 01:01:32.159 I mean, it's crazy. 1247 01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:32.960 Michael and Colin. 1248 01:01:33.880 --> 01:01:37.480 What what we know and what the the faithful listeners 1249 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.000 know is Sarah's just doubling down on her character of 1250 01:01:40.280 --> 01:01:41.800 being obsessed with history. 1251 01:01:42.960 --> 01:01:44.719 And I do love history. 1252 01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:49.320 She likes to brag about loving history that corner hat. 1253 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:52.199 And also when you list your favorite books of all time, 1254 01:01:52.360 --> 01:01:55.880 they're mostly like your middle school high school history books. 1255 01:01:55.679 --> 01:02:01.599 Like Civilizations Wantations to History. 1256 01:02:02.079 --> 01:02:05.800 Howard Zinn posters on her wall liked I do still 1257 01:02:05.960 --> 01:02:07.639 like the science stuff, even though some of it. Now 1258 01:02:07.719 --> 01:02:09.519 reading it again, I'm like, how much of this is 1259 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:12.960 real or like not much? Basically thinly researched and then 1260 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:16.320 connected the like an eriting of dreams thing was kind 1261 01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:16.719 of dumb. 1262 01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:17.880 Did you google that at all? 1263 01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:19.599 Because I did, well, one thing I didn't, But I 1264 01:02:20.159 --> 01:02:23.199 do know that, like crows can pass along memories, they 1265 01:02:23.199 --> 01:02:26.679 have collective memories, and that's interesting. They need a study 1266 01:02:26.719 --> 01:02:28.719 at a call I think it was Harvard and they 1267 01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:33.159 I read about a study of college started and they 1268 01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:37.159 where they would Basically, they had somebody put on a 1269 01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.280 mask and harass crows, which I mean, how do I 1270 01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:42.840 get that job? I don't know, Man, this doesn't sound 1271 01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:46.440 generations of crows. Later, when those original crows had died 1272 01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:49.320 and it was those crows grandkids, someone be walking around 1273 01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.039 campus wearing that mask, and the crows would come up 1274 01:02:52.079 --> 01:02:56.480 and like attack. So it was passed along from crow 1275 01:02:56.559 --> 01:02:56.880 to crow. 1276 01:02:59.400 --> 01:03:01.519 Michael, you were watching practical joke. 1277 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:02.760 I don't know. 1278 01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:05.519 I mean you're gonna I mean maybe if you said Harvard, 1279 01:03:05.519 --> 01:03:08.800 I'd be like, okay, but he did say Harvard. 1280 01:03:08.920 --> 01:03:14.159 Yeah, no, I mean, I just don't memory. 1281 01:03:14.159 --> 01:03:17.920 I read about like things being passed along, but not dreams. Dreams, 1282 01:03:17.960 --> 01:03:18.639 that's stupid. 1283 01:03:18.880 --> 01:03:22.360 Yeah, in the I saw night Terrors where there there 1284 01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:24.480 was like a genetic thing. But it's more that's not 1285 01:03:24.519 --> 01:03:28.159 like the specific terror. It's just that getting night terrors 1286 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:28.920 is something. 1287 01:03:29.119 --> 01:03:32.760 But I am a sucker for the science fictiony aspects 1288 01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.000 of this, and just so that I did, I did enjoy. 1289 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:36.840 Yeah, even an ape is based on a real thing, 1290 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:39.159 though I wish more stuff was based on more real things. 1291 01:03:39.159 --> 01:03:41.239 Well, how much of that was real? Because they say 1292 01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:44.480 that she Amy knows like four hundred and fifty unique 1293 01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.719 vocabulary words and she seems very intelligent, can string together sentences, 1294 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:50.360 she can express that she's feeling. 1295 01:03:50.159 --> 01:03:50.679 A good ape. 1296 01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:57.280 Yeah, I feel like making complex sentences. No conco Coco does. 1297 01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.719 Hurry up, Coco does, like said, love. 1298 01:04:01.360 --> 01:04:03.280 Baby, those are complex concepts. 1299 01:04:04.360 --> 01:04:05.880 Is the most complex. 1300 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:07.679 I think a lot of humors going. 1301 01:04:11.280 --> 01:04:13.239 Has a grass or meaning of love. 1302 01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:16.239 There's just just like the caress isn't there, you know, 1303 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:17.239 it's all get to it. 1304 01:04:18.239 --> 01:04:18.440 Yeah. 1305 01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:20.199 I wanted to actually talk about some of the science 1306 01:04:20.239 --> 01:04:24.079 experience because our science that he cites, like studies and 1307 01:04:24.079 --> 01:04:26.360 stuff like that, because so many of them are like 1308 01:04:27.039 --> 01:04:30.559 just the way he describes them flawed. So, for example, 1309 01:04:31.320 --> 01:04:35.039 when he's denigrating animal rights people, he uses this example, 1310 01:04:35.599 --> 01:04:41.000 So a factory trained pigeons to work the assembly line 1311 01:04:41.000 --> 01:04:43.199 basically because it was just like color based or something. 1312 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.880 And then animal rights said that's not fair to the pigeons. 1313 01:04:46.880 --> 01:04:49.400 They must go free and humans can have that job. 1314 01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:52.960 And he was like, oh, humans can do it. It's 1315 01:04:52.960 --> 01:04:56.360 not torture for humans, Like, yeah, it's not. They're being 1316 01:04:56.360 --> 01:05:02.199 paid money. Yeah, So he cited that as an animal 1317 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.039 rights people being crazy. 1318 01:05:04.239 --> 01:05:05.159 Yeah. 1319 01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:09.280 In another one, he talks about a chimp who was 1320 01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:13.400 given pictures of other chimps and also humans, and he 1321 01:05:13.519 --> 01:05:16.800 separates them into groups. And they said he put his 1322 01:05:16.960 --> 01:05:19.039 own picture in with the humans. 1323 01:05:19.440 --> 01:05:22.360 Now, I like that, but how did the monkey know 1324 01:05:22.400 --> 01:05:24.800 which one was him? How much time is this monkey 1325 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:26.480 spending in front of the mirror. 1326 01:05:26.960 --> 01:05:29.760 Well, according to the book, animals can recognize themselves in 1327 01:05:29.800 --> 01:05:30.800 pictures and mirrors. 1328 01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.960 Clara, Yeah, but to go from I don't know. I 1329 01:05:35.000 --> 01:05:38.719 don't think so how he looked like. I like it. 1330 01:05:39.000 --> 01:05:41.280 I like it because I think that's what ALFI thinks 1331 01:05:41.320 --> 01:05:42.079 he's human. 1332 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.400 Yeah, but you just you just don't believe it. 1333 01:05:44.519 --> 01:05:46.639 I just don't believe that he was like, that's a 1334 01:05:46.679 --> 01:05:47.320 picture of me. 1335 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:52.159 That's that's like this other thing that looks exactly like me. Yeah, 1336 01:05:52.199 --> 01:05:55.280 I agree. I don't think it was that complex. I 1337 01:05:55.280 --> 01:05:57.239 don't think that makes sense. But it was fun. 1338 01:05:57.440 --> 01:05:59.360 It was fun, and these are things that are in 1339 01:05:59.400 --> 01:06:01.039 the foot time. 1340 01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.079 Didn't their footnotes? 1341 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:06.920 Yeah, their footnotes, Like the pigeon thing was a footnote. 1342 01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:08.960 It's like, oh, I don't know, I was going to 1343 01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:10.320 say I skipped it. 1344 01:06:10.400 --> 01:06:13.039 I don't think I got a footnote. I don't know 1345 01:06:13.280 --> 01:06:15.559 that telegraphed in the audio. 1346 01:06:15.760 --> 01:06:18.400 Yeah, I don't think it was in I don't. I 1347 01:06:18.400 --> 01:06:20.280 don't know, like some of that stuff wasn't it but 1348 01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:21.639 it wasn't. 1349 01:06:21.679 --> 01:06:23.719 Yeah, that seems like a major flaw in the audio. 1350 01:06:23.920 --> 01:06:27.159 I did say on a bridge, did it? 1351 01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:27.440 So? 1352 01:06:27.639 --> 01:06:30.920 I feel like a bridge bridge. 1353 01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:33.199 James Frank to read the footnote. 1354 01:06:34.960 --> 01:06:39.519 Just like another voice that abruptly jumps in during the audio. 1355 01:06:40.599 --> 01:06:42.719 A little one, A little one. 1356 01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:46.679 Pigeon, a little fact for you listeners. 1357 01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:51.480 Yeah, I did want to jump to what they found 1358 01:06:51.519 --> 01:06:56.519 when they found the Lost City, of which also. 1359 01:06:56.320 --> 01:06:58.599 I was reading, is a very different I was reading it. 1360 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:03.079 It's like Jay, Yeah, yeah, it was probably zoom. 1361 01:07:03.639 --> 01:07:05.159 Yeah. 1362 01:07:05.199 --> 01:07:08.639 So they go there, it's pretty much, wow, pretty intact 1363 01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:12.920 for lost city. So that's lucky. We can't really find 1364 01:07:12.960 --> 01:07:15.280 any details. But then we find out that there are 1365 01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:18.480 sort of cave paintings essentially, and the only way they 1366 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:21.800 can read the cave paintings is by like scanning it, 1367 01:07:22.280 --> 01:07:25.159 sending it back to the lab in America. Thank you 1368 01:07:25.280 --> 01:07:29.360 the computer computers again, and then the computer projects the 1369 01:07:29.480 --> 01:07:32.360 picture onto the wall or something like that now we 1370 01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:33.599 can see it or something. 1371 01:07:34.239 --> 01:07:35.360 Yeah. I didn't understand that. 1372 01:07:35.360 --> 01:07:37.519 I wasn't very good for a book to be have 1373 01:07:37.639 --> 01:07:39.239 that process described. 1374 01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.800 Yeah, and it also didn't help that then in the 1375 01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:45.800 book it said, well you had to be there. It's 1376 01:07:45.840 --> 01:07:47.159 like so hard to put into words. 1377 01:07:48.719 --> 01:07:52.599 Yeah, and the whole thing with this so so the 1378 01:07:52.599 --> 01:07:56.000 they were silver gray apes that were like they were 1379 01:07:56.360 --> 01:07:57.159 kind of human. 1380 01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:01.519 There are an ape that is never existed before. And 1381 01:08:01.559 --> 01:08:03.840 all these ape scientists are like, or at least you know, 1382 01:08:04.360 --> 01:08:07.519 the one main one, like, we don't know what this is, 1383 01:08:07.599 --> 01:08:10.239 doesn't match up. And then they think that the ancient 1384 01:08:10.239 --> 01:08:14.599 people who lived there might might have mated with. 1385 01:08:14.800 --> 01:08:17.359 Yeah, and we don't know for sure. Yeah, they don't. 1386 01:08:17.439 --> 01:08:20.039 They suspect perhaps, And this is where I'd like to 1387 01:08:20.039 --> 01:08:20.880 bring up another. 1388 01:08:20.680 --> 01:08:23.319 And they were like the slaves, the ape slaves, yeah, 1389 01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:26.159 who they then trained to protect their place. Yeah, it's 1390 01:08:26.279 --> 01:08:26.760 very weird. 1391 01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:30.680 And they were like albino anpe. 1392 01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.239 No not no, gret And I would like, no, they 1393 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:34.640 should have. 1394 01:08:34.640 --> 01:08:39.880 Been out the movie, you know, a child's book. Definitely 1395 01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:41.479 thinking of what I read the child's book. 1396 01:08:42.279 --> 01:08:45.279 I think you're thinking of the YETI I would like 1397 01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:48.119 I wish it was a little bit more invented. 1398 01:08:48.159 --> 01:08:49.039 It was just too close. 1399 01:08:49.640 --> 01:08:51.960 I kept expecting it to be super exciting or they 1400 01:08:52.439 --> 01:08:54.960 you know, they were just meaner and different. 1401 01:08:56.199 --> 01:08:58.399 What I would like to bring up that racism I 1402 01:08:58.479 --> 01:08:59.199 promised earlier. 1403 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:03.279 Yeah, I'd like to just wonder why the apes were 1404 01:09:03.520 --> 01:09:08.600 gray if they mate it with humans, why would that 1405 01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:11.439 result in a lighter furred animal. 1406 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:12.640 Well, why wouldn't do you. 1407 01:09:12.720 --> 01:09:16.239 Think that it's maybe because Michael Crichton's white, so he's like, well, 1408 01:09:16.279 --> 01:09:18.960 white and black makes gray, And. 1409 01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:23.399 I didn't put together that it was that. 1410 01:09:25.119 --> 01:09:25.720 Look like him. 1411 01:09:26.079 --> 01:09:28.680 Wow, I think that's why they were gray. I think 1412 01:09:28.720 --> 01:09:29.279 that's why they. 1413 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:29.880 Were like me. 1414 01:09:30.359 --> 01:09:30.760 I don't know. 1415 01:09:31.960 --> 01:09:35.399 Oh, yeah, that that the racism things. That doesn't that 1416 01:09:35.479 --> 01:09:37.159 bothers me the least of it, I would say. 1417 01:09:37.199 --> 01:09:39.119 So, there was so much more in the book. 1418 01:09:39.520 --> 01:09:42.279 Ye, there's the rest of the book is informing this 1419 01:09:42.720 --> 01:09:43.880 theory of I don't know. 1420 01:09:44.079 --> 01:09:45.199 I think you may be right. 1421 01:09:45.319 --> 01:09:46.600 And do you have a I just want to know, 1422 01:09:46.680 --> 01:09:48.920 is there going to be like a like a sound 1423 01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:52.439 cue that accompanies the racism I promised you earlier? 1424 01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.079 Yeah, yeah, we have a little ditty that plays. 1425 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:00.359 Yeah. 1426 01:10:00.439 --> 01:10:02.439 I wasn't. I wasn't, Claire. 1427 01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:03.319 I support your theory. 1428 01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:03.680 I was. 1429 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:06.239 I was promised racism, and I feel like I didn't. 1430 01:10:06.039 --> 01:10:06.560 Get it from here. 1431 01:10:06.840 --> 01:10:08.199 Okay, Well, it's a theory. 1432 01:10:09.000 --> 01:10:10.600 Do we have any act outs that we can do. 1433 01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:15.039 Let's do this scene where they're finally going to get 1434 01:10:15.079 --> 01:10:18.159 the blue diamonds out before one. 1435 01:10:18.359 --> 01:10:19.199 Okay, good one. 1436 01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:20.319 This is gonna be tough for me. 1437 01:10:20.600 --> 01:10:23.439 Okay, very easy to be the quiet. 1438 01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:27.199 Observer and I'll play the blue diamond. 1439 01:10:27.319 --> 01:10:29.960 Okay, Okay. Who can anybody do a good Scottish accent 1440 01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.000 and play Monroe? Okay, you're throwing a lot out there. 1441 01:10:33.199 --> 01:10:34.600 I can play Monroe. 1442 01:10:37.199 --> 01:10:40.800 Okay, fine, I can try. 1443 01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:53.279 Just know you were right, it was right the whole time. 1444 01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:58.520 I'll be I forget her name, karens Ross. I'll be 1445 01:10:58.600 --> 01:10:59.199 Karen Ross. 1446 01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:00.479 Can I be Amy? 1447 01:11:00.560 --> 01:11:10.840 But I'm going to vocalize what Amy would be signing. Yeah, sure, sure, okay, sure, great, 1448 01:11:10.960 --> 01:11:12.439 And then you two can be other. 1449 01:11:13.319 --> 01:11:16.840 The dead porters, the dead the porters have their heads 1450 01:11:16.840 --> 01:11:18.119 smashed by stove pts. 1451 01:11:19.720 --> 01:11:22.600 Okay, so Gas is escaping. My body. 1452 01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:28.560 Is not. Everyone needs I'm a ghost, all right? Okay, 1453 01:11:28.720 --> 01:11:31.880 So I am going to set up these explosive here 1454 01:11:32.079 --> 01:11:34.960 so we can actually get down to the blue diamonds 1455 01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:36.880 that are I'm that are so important. So let me 1456 01:11:36.920 --> 01:11:38.079 set up these explosives. 1457 01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.560 Amy, he says Novocano. 1458 01:11:42.159 --> 01:11:46.520 What do you want me to put them next to 1459 01:11:46.600 --> 01:11:47.159 the volcano? 1460 01:11:47.880 --> 01:11:49.720 Michael Wolf? I really? 1461 01:11:53.920 --> 01:11:54.319 Okay? 1462 01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:57.199 How do you want your martini. 1463 01:11:59.119 --> 01:11:59.359 Dry? 1464 01:11:59.479 --> 01:12:00.640 But also, can we leave? 1465 01:12:00.800 --> 01:12:06.479 This is really Scottish. 1466 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:07.800 Character that was based on Sean Connery. How would you 1467 01:12:07.920 --> 01:12:08.640 like your martine? 1468 01:12:08.920 --> 01:12:10.279 I couldn't stone? 1469 01:12:10.399 --> 01:12:11.880 All right, okay, I'll be over here. 1470 01:12:12.520 --> 01:12:16.199 Thanks, And I didn't want one. Please not anyway. I 1471 01:12:16.560 --> 01:12:18.479 no one thinks there's a problem with Please don't. 1472 01:12:18.600 --> 01:12:21.880 I'm sign languaging this. I'm Amy. Please don't put explosives 1473 01:12:21.920 --> 01:12:24.840 because seems hystical. Amy. 1474 01:12:24.920 --> 01:12:26.840 Do you want to hold the thing that sets off 1475 01:12:26.880 --> 01:12:28.680 the explosives? Yeah, here you go. 1476 01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:29.520 That's fun. 1477 01:12:29.800 --> 01:12:30.079 Wow. 1478 01:12:30.560 --> 01:12:33.119 I love buttons. That's part of my character. 1479 01:12:33.439 --> 01:12:35.199 Yeah, button lady. 1480 01:12:35.399 --> 01:12:39.279 Yeah, so this is definitely I'm a scientist and I 1481 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:40.399 know what I'm doing. 1482 01:12:40.880 --> 01:12:41.239 Amy. 1483 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:43.920 Could you press the button for the explosives? 1484 01:12:44.039 --> 01:12:44.279 Amy? 1485 01:12:44.359 --> 01:12:46.000 Good, gorilla press? 1486 01:12:46.920 --> 01:12:47.399 Okay? 1487 01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:48.640 Look great? 1488 01:12:48.760 --> 01:12:51.640 Now we have blue diamonds and I told you everything. 1489 01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:55.640 I was right. 1490 01:12:56.439 --> 01:12:58.119 Does anyone wants champagne? 1491 01:13:00.079 --> 01:13:06.159 He's hot and scene? Oh my god, what happened? 1492 01:13:06.800 --> 01:13:07.560 But we just did? 1493 01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:09.960 The volcano exploded? 1494 01:13:10.119 --> 01:13:10.279 Yeah? 1495 01:13:12.159 --> 01:13:14.199 Yeah, that is wild. No, No, I feel like I've 1496 01:13:14.239 --> 01:13:15.479 read it now I should. 1497 01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.079 I feel like you are farther from the end because 1498 01:13:19.079 --> 01:13:20.359 that happens, and then a lot, No. 1499 01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:22.840 It doesn't. That is no more than thirty pages from 1500 01:13:22.840 --> 01:13:23.079 the end. 1501 01:13:23.119 --> 01:13:25.600 I promise you are you reading in a bridge to finish. 1502 01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:27.920 You're gonna love how they get away. You're gonna love 1503 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:28.720 how they escape. 1504 01:13:28.760 --> 01:13:32.960 It's so yeah, wait, there's something I wanted to bring up. 1505 01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:35.479 It's kind of snarky. Their whole escape, which. 1506 01:13:35.359 --> 01:13:38.880 Is throughout before we know that they're going to escape, 1507 01:13:39.279 --> 01:13:41.960 Michael Crichton does this thing where he's like months later 1508 01:13:42.199 --> 01:13:44.399 Elliott would know what Amy was saying. It's like, why 1509 01:13:44.479 --> 01:13:46.319 did you tell us they escaped? 1510 01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:48.079 Total and escape? 1511 01:13:48.159 --> 01:13:49.680 Yeah, so unnecessary. 1512 01:13:49.920 --> 01:13:51.680 It's not like well written. That is. 1513 01:13:52.000 --> 01:13:55.640 It'll be like it'll have like Karen Ross being like, uh, 1514 01:13:56.920 --> 01:13:59.279 of this moment. Later she would say it was the 1515 01:13:59.399 --> 01:14:02.239 scariest moment. It's like, why are you giving just say 1516 01:14:02.319 --> 01:14:05.079 she's scared right now instead of giving away that she 1517 01:14:05.239 --> 01:14:06.920 is still interview. 1518 01:14:10.039 --> 01:14:13.760 We're not kill him again, We're not what the hell? 1519 01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:14.640 Don't speak for me. 1520 01:14:14.960 --> 01:14:17.520 They they leave velocity of his ine, which is covered 1521 01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:21.640 in volcano, and they end up Okay, I'm probably skipping things, 1522 01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:24.920 but they end up basically in that an abandoned like 1523 01:14:25.079 --> 01:14:29.079 airplane that has much just applot the Japanese the Japanese plane, 1524 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:32.199 and they show up and then there's some natives local 1525 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:34.520 like his words, not ours. 1526 01:14:34.960 --> 01:14:38.520 They're attacking them, and they they're again killing these natives. 1527 01:14:39.079 --> 01:14:41.479 They just are like kill them. They're just it's the 1528 01:14:41.560 --> 01:14:43.720 same as though when the apes were there and they 1529 01:14:43.760 --> 01:14:46.119 were just killing them. It's the same as when it's 1530 01:14:46.159 --> 01:14:49.960 people just oh no, specifically just killing them, killing them. 1531 01:14:50.439 --> 01:14:53.279 And then they're like, they kill the leader, and they're like. 1532 01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:55.000 So they a religious leader. 1533 01:14:55.079 --> 01:14:57.800 It's like killed they purposely kill the religious leader of 1534 01:14:58.239 --> 01:15:00.000 this tribe because. 1535 01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:02.760 That that's apped up, and so then they leave. But 1536 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:05.880 then they're like they'll be back though, and so they're like, 1537 01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:09.359 we really need to escape, and then who finds. 1538 01:15:09.680 --> 01:15:12.359 So it's it's they're like, why is this why there 1539 01:15:12.439 --> 01:15:15.920 are so many propane tanks? And Karen Ross starts laughing 1540 01:15:16.279 --> 01:15:18.840 and she's just laughing, and they're like, why is she laughing? 1541 01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:21.600 And they look and they're like, it's too many propane tanks. 1542 01:15:21.600 --> 01:15:23.960 They wouldn't use all this for cooking, And then they 1543 01:15:24.079 --> 01:15:26.760 realize why she's laughing. It's because it's a hot air balloon. 1544 01:15:27.039 --> 01:15:29.279 But like Michael Criton's so coy about it. 1545 01:15:29.439 --> 01:15:34.279 It was such an odd it was so weird. 1546 01:15:34.359 --> 01:15:36.000 It also didn't Yeah, I had to read it a 1547 01:15:36.039 --> 01:15:37.880 couple of times. And it also was confusing that Karen 1548 01:15:37.880 --> 01:15:41.000 would just be laughing, like, oh, this is a hot 1549 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:43.199 air balloon. Let's assemble it and get out of here 1550 01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:43.960 with this propane. 1551 01:15:44.079 --> 01:15:48.199 Yeah maybe, yeah, it's pretty Also, he didn't mention that. 1552 01:15:48.279 --> 01:15:51.079 He also described the natives says they have had they 1553 01:15:51.119 --> 01:15:52.640 had shat on all of the seats. 1554 01:15:52.720 --> 01:15:53.279 Oh my god. 1555 01:15:53.359 --> 01:15:54.720 It was something that was in there that I was like. 1556 01:15:54.880 --> 01:15:57.239 It was like I wanted to put Amy the gorilla 1557 01:15:57.359 --> 01:16:00.800 down on a seat, but the humans had chat on it. 1558 01:16:00.960 --> 01:16:02.800 It's like, what the fuck are you doing? 1559 01:16:03.039 --> 01:16:03.560 What do you do? 1560 01:16:03.920 --> 01:16:06.119 Once you get into the hot once they realize it's 1561 01:16:06.119 --> 01:16:08.279 a hot air balloon, then it's just done. Yeah, And 1562 01:16:08.359 --> 01:16:11.479 there's no like, no like them flying away and like 1563 01:16:11.680 --> 01:16:14.399 trying to reconcile with what they've done. There's no moment 1564 01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:17.399 of like looking back on everything. And then right it 1565 01:16:17.479 --> 01:16:18.960 jumps to the epilogue. 1566 01:16:18.439 --> 01:16:24.560 Where Sean Connery has put some blue diamonds in his pockets. 1567 01:16:24.840 --> 01:16:35.800 According to the little kids. Yes, I I wish I 1568 01:16:35.920 --> 01:16:37.960 could too, but I don't remember. 1569 01:16:39.119 --> 01:16:40.560 A little he's proud. 1570 01:16:40.600 --> 01:16:43.560 I don't know why it's online, but they were like 1571 01:16:44.479 --> 01:16:46.760 everything she which is this true? 1572 01:16:46.840 --> 01:16:50.359 It said Ross took away some blue diamonds, so she 1573 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:52.680 was really happy she had her blue diamonds. 1574 01:16:52.840 --> 01:16:57.640 No, it was Monroe. Well I hope that kid got a. 1575 01:16:57.720 --> 01:17:01.560 Bad grade or you actually by the report? 1576 01:17:01.720 --> 01:17:03.199 Yeah, but then the. 1577 01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:07.479 Diamonds were sold to Intel, which is like, isn't the 1578 01:17:07.720 --> 01:17:10.000 like tagline for Intel? Like what's inside? 1579 01:17:10.720 --> 01:17:11.119 Now we know. 1580 01:17:13.439 --> 01:17:17.520 People died they started there was like a blue light. Yes, 1581 01:17:18.399 --> 01:17:19.720 that's definitely what it was. 1582 01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:26.520 For all the death that came with this expedition. There's 1583 01:17:26.520 --> 01:17:28.960 the word again that there should have been one person 1584 01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:31.359 just being like in the hot air balloon ride away 1585 01:17:31.439 --> 01:17:35.039 been like, wow, this was an incredible waste of time 1586 01:17:35.199 --> 01:17:38.159 and human life. That would have been a good end. 1587 01:17:38.760 --> 01:17:40.840 Somebody help me wipe all this blood off my hands. 1588 01:17:41.239 --> 01:17:43.479 Yeah, because they didn't get away with any of the 1589 01:17:43.680 --> 01:17:48.319 like any like skulls from the special the human names, 1590 01:17:48.399 --> 01:17:50.479 the combos, there's there wasn't. 1591 01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:55.000 Any information they ruined the last city because. 1592 01:17:54.720 --> 01:17:59.439 Of the volcano. They set off half a mile under 1593 01:17:59.600 --> 01:18:04.760 volcan ye is on inn climate. 1594 01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:13.279 Yeah, but he doesn't really it was confusing that what 1595 01:18:15.119 --> 01:18:19.239 Oh we uncanceled him because of that, yeah, yeah, Michael. Oh. 1596 01:18:19.279 --> 01:18:22.560 And then the Amy is left, she's They eventually let 1597 01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:25.199 Amy out in the wild and then she he comes 1598 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:28.479 back and finds her. Peter Elliott comes and finds her, 1599 01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:30.760 and she has a baby. But then he won't she 1600 01:18:30.800 --> 01:18:33.760 won't like look at him. And that's what we're talking about. 1601 01:18:33.600 --> 01:18:33.720 Is that. 1602 01:18:33.920 --> 01:18:36.760 But the baby can sign, right, that's the thing. 1603 01:18:37.920 --> 01:18:40.840 Amy has a baby, a monkey baby, I think Peter 1604 01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:42.720 Elliott Amy. 1605 01:18:43.000 --> 01:18:46.159 Yeah, it was, And is she a wild gorilla? 1606 01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:50.199 Yeah? Yeah. But also her baby can sign now, which. 1607 01:18:50.159 --> 01:18:53.560 Also Michael Crichton should know better with like all his 1608 01:18:54.159 --> 01:18:56.880 work in television, Like if you have you can't just 1609 01:18:57.039 --> 01:19:00.399 introduce a baby to the script like it's gonna ruin. 1610 01:19:00.560 --> 01:19:05.159 That's like a desperate it's so desperate yeah, where. 1611 01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:11.000 They're like yeah, kid, yeah, jump the sh Just because 1612 01:19:11.479 --> 01:19:13.119 I wanted to mention this because I don't know if 1613 01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:17.720 anybody else was interested in whether humans and apes could. Yeah, 1614 01:19:17.880 --> 01:19:19.880 I know that I was wondering it the whole time. 1615 01:19:19.960 --> 01:19:24.119 I know that we don't really know. You just might 1616 01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:25.960 not be there yet, but I wanted. 1617 01:19:25.720 --> 01:19:26.800 To why are you so sure? 1618 01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:27.479 Have you tried? 1619 01:19:27.479 --> 01:19:29.039 I'm just saying I know that we can't. 1620 01:19:29.680 --> 01:19:33.359 So there are some cases of the Soviet experience experiments 1621 01:19:33.399 --> 01:19:34.600 in the nineteen twenties. 1622 01:19:34.279 --> 01:19:37.720 Expedition Where are Soviet expeditions. 1623 01:19:37.079 --> 01:19:40.319 In the nineteen twenties where artificial insemination was attempted using 1624 01:19:40.359 --> 01:19:41.600 female chimps in human. 1625 01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:42.680 Sperm less excited. 1626 01:19:43.479 --> 01:19:46.560 None of these experiments resulted in pregnancy, much less the 1627 01:19:46.600 --> 01:19:49.560 birth of the human see, which was what was tried. 1628 01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:51.560 Wanted it sounds. 1629 01:19:54.720 --> 01:19:57.079 They did, though, I think actually or he would, he 1630 01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:59.359 had plans to, but then it got like the Soviet 1631 01:19:59.439 --> 01:20:00.840 Union kicked the mouth the scientist. 1632 01:20:00.880 --> 01:20:03.600 I feel like, I grillas. You gotta trite with every 1633 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:04.439 single animal. 1634 01:20:05.079 --> 01:20:07.840 Well, I think it's closest to us. 1635 01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:10.800 I know, I'm talking crabs, I'm talking geckos, I'm. 1636 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:13.840 Talking I'm saying I want a mermaid. 1637 01:20:15.239 --> 01:20:17.760 But then also, yeah, like I don't really I can't 1638 01:20:17.800 --> 01:20:20.279 really wrap my head around. It's like they're saying it's gorilla. 1639 01:20:20.359 --> 01:20:23.000 It's like a gorilla chimp human. 1640 01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:25.319 High gorillas and chimps are different. 1641 01:20:25.880 --> 01:20:30.800 Just no, then what the actual combo was. 1642 01:20:30.880 --> 01:20:34.680 I think they're trying to claim it was gorilla was 1643 01:20:35.279 --> 01:20:36.880 He's right, it was three? Is that? 1644 01:20:39.960 --> 01:20:42.119 That's what I like in the book. It's like they're 1645 01:20:42.119 --> 01:20:45.560 saying it's like a gorilla chimp human hybrid. When I was, 1646 01:20:45.680 --> 01:20:48.199 I was like, so it means one of them had 1647 01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:54.000 to start like yeah, yeah. It was sort of like 1648 01:20:54.079 --> 01:20:56.680 a Mori Povich sort of situation where it's like, who's 1649 01:20:56.720 --> 01:20:57.239 the fun there? 1650 01:20:57.640 --> 01:21:00.159 Maybe if it's the chimps are closest to us? Is 1651 01:21:00.239 --> 01:21:01.239 that what someone just said? 1652 01:21:01.880 --> 01:21:06.399 Maybe it's maybe gorilla and chimp can go together, right, that, 1653 01:21:06.680 --> 01:21:10.319 and then what they can make can go with a 1654 01:21:10.439 --> 01:21:12.159 human because the shape and human. 1655 01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.680 Could go together. But this whole books about gorillas, and 1656 01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:17.039 so they had to like throw that in. What's the 1657 01:21:17.319 --> 01:21:24.479 zebra hybrid? The it's like, anybody gave me one. 1658 01:21:29.000 --> 01:21:31.000 If a horse a donkey becomes a mule? 1659 01:21:31.159 --> 01:21:31.520 Correct? 1660 01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:32.840 There? 1661 01:21:32.880 --> 01:21:33.239 Sterile? 1662 01:21:33.319 --> 01:21:40.720 Yeah? That basically right, and those things are anders are sterile. 1663 01:21:40.760 --> 01:21:43.560 I bet really, I think all hybrids are sterile because 1664 01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:44.760 they're they're. 1665 01:21:45.680 --> 01:21:49.000 Genitals get to twisted because they should. 1666 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:52.880 I don't know why do they still have genitals. 1667 01:21:53.840 --> 01:21:55.399 They just don't wear the normal. 1668 01:21:56.640 --> 01:21:58.479 Twist twist. 1669 01:21:59.720 --> 01:22:01.079 Like QRK screw like a duck. 1670 01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:03.239 Yeah yeah, but it doesn't work like the duck. 1671 01:22:03.439 --> 01:22:07.960 Yeah yeah, ducks works, dunks works good, dunts. 1672 01:22:07.760 --> 01:22:08.560 Works real good. 1673 01:22:09.600 --> 01:22:13.159 They have those so that they can rape female ducks. 1674 01:22:13.239 --> 01:22:18.560 That's true. This is a disturbing kind of final one 1675 01:22:18.600 --> 01:22:19.560 of my favorite topics. 1676 01:22:19.600 --> 01:22:20.279 If I'm gonna be on. 1677 01:22:22.359 --> 01:22:25.520 Well, you know, let's to move to a more positive note. 1678 01:22:25.600 --> 01:22:28.840 How about that funny Central Park duck, That really colorful 1679 01:22:28.920 --> 01:22:30.560 duck that's hot, the hot duck. 1680 01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:34.800 Gosh, that duck can get it. 1681 01:22:35.000 --> 01:22:38.119 Hot ducks asking for it, hot ducks. 1682 01:22:38.199 --> 01:22:40.119 Honestly the funnier. 1683 01:22:40.560 --> 01:22:42.399 Is it possible for you to take calling and my 1684 01:22:42.560 --> 01:22:45.760 voices out of this podcast hashtag? 1685 01:22:49.119 --> 01:22:52.439 Alright, alright, alright, sorry you guys don't get that going. 1686 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:55.640 But what you should get going are these products and services. 1687 01:22:55.800 --> 01:22:56.399 Be right back. 1688 01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:02.680 Make the most of your summer. 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I hope 1700 01:23:35.640 --> 01:23:38.000 you guys are ready for good Reads five star reviews, 1701 01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:39.439 because that's what's happening right now. 1702 01:23:39.800 --> 01:23:44.399 Hell yeah, all right, So I'll these guests the segment 1703 01:23:44.560 --> 01:23:46.279 just so you know. I'm going to read some reviews 1704 01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:48.399 and then please feel free to comment on them. 1705 01:23:48.920 --> 01:23:50.239 I felt like she was talking to me, and I 1706 01:23:50.359 --> 01:23:53.960 was like, I know she said guests, but she was 1707 01:23:54.159 --> 01:23:55.640 making eye contact with me. 1708 01:23:55.880 --> 01:23:58.039 I didn't feel I was, And maybe. 1709 01:23:57.920 --> 01:24:01.159 I mean, who's up first? 1710 01:24:01.159 --> 01:24:03.119 Who am I looking at? Who am I looking at? 1711 01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:06.880 Oh my god. 1712 01:24:06.960 --> 01:24:10.520 Okay, so Craig needs more time to read. That was 1713 01:24:10.560 --> 01:24:11.239 his username. 1714 01:24:11.600 --> 01:24:15.600 Okay, just wait until you're done. 1715 01:24:17.199 --> 01:24:21.199 No, they don't, Craig says, enjoyed this immensely. I have 1716 01:24:21.359 --> 01:24:24.359 vague recollections of the movie. Group goes to the Congo 1717 01:24:25.119 --> 01:24:28.520 take a communicating Gorilla, Bad, Gorilla's attack, volcanic eruptions, and 1718 01:24:28.600 --> 01:24:29.399 Tim Curry ha ha. 1719 01:24:29.840 --> 01:24:32.479 But the book is so much better. I love the 1720 01:24:32.520 --> 01:24:33.479 amount of detail, the. 1721 01:24:33.520 --> 01:24:36.840 Science parts, the historical parts, and the atmosphere that the 1722 01:24:36.920 --> 01:24:38.920 author evoked A bean in the congo. 1723 01:24:39.199 --> 01:24:40.560 Brilliant five stars. 1724 01:24:40.800 --> 01:24:45.319 I feel like that would be a better summary for Sabrina. Okay, 1725 01:24:45.560 --> 01:24:48.840 then the child's that gives you more than the child's report. 1726 01:24:49.680 --> 01:24:51.840 No, you didn't know Tim Curry was in this book? 1727 01:24:52.640 --> 01:24:54.640 That is that's true. The child left that out. 1728 01:24:56.680 --> 01:24:59.319 For the book and they mentioned them to me. 1729 01:25:00.359 --> 01:25:04.840 Yeah, hu funny. Yeah, great review, but to be fair 1730 01:25:04.880 --> 01:25:05.880 and needed more time to read. 1731 01:25:06.279 --> 01:25:10.079 Yeah, yeah, so Nia says. I do not say this lightly. 1732 01:25:10.199 --> 01:25:13.479 Michael Crichton is brilliant. This novel is brilliant. 1733 01:25:13.920 --> 01:25:15.840 This book was at times Jim. 1734 01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:18.760 And although it is fiction, there are a lot of 1735 01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:22.800 interesting facts. For instance, did you know that some chimpanzees 1736 01:25:22.880 --> 01:25:24.520 eat human infants in the wild. 1737 01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:26.039 I personally did. 1738 01:25:26.000 --> 01:25:28.359 Not know where are they getting? 1739 01:25:31.239 --> 01:25:32.479 Of course I knew that you. 1740 01:25:32.479 --> 01:25:35.960 Could teach apes to sign cough Planet of the Apes cough. 1741 01:25:36.640 --> 01:25:39.399 But this made me consider just how remarkable that is. 1742 01:25:39.560 --> 01:25:42.319 I never would have considered just how brilliant primates are 1743 01:25:42.399 --> 01:25:46.840 before reading this. The characters aren't terrible, not the most remarkable, 1744 01:25:46.920 --> 01:25:47.720 but that's all right. 1745 01:25:48.199 --> 01:25:51.399 Amy the Gorilla was my favorite, especially when she does 1746 01:25:51.840 --> 01:25:55.439 she's everyone's favorite, especially when she tears up a drawling 1747 01:25:55.520 --> 01:25:58.479 that symbolizes her tearing up a woman. Crichton had me 1748 01:25:58.600 --> 01:26:02.239 chuckling a few times. I mid five stars. 1749 01:26:03.279 --> 01:26:06.279 Her review was like, at times it was thrilling, no 1750 01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:08.720 examples because I don't think she could find any, and 1751 01:26:08.880 --> 01:26:11.680 like the characters weren't very good but okay. 1752 01:26:11.840 --> 01:26:13.840 She also didn't say they were good. 1753 01:26:13.960 --> 01:26:16.119 She just was like, they aren't terrible. 1754 01:26:16.479 --> 01:26:19.000 Also, I think we can agree that Amy had the 1755 01:26:19.159 --> 01:26:20.520 most character development. 1756 01:26:20.920 --> 01:26:22.119 Yeah, I do think so. 1757 01:26:22.880 --> 01:26:25.520 Yeah, it's very little, Amy good Gorilla. 1758 01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:28.600 She often said, yeah, good grill, Stephen. 1759 01:26:28.720 --> 01:26:30.199 It would have been really cool if at the end 1760 01:26:30.279 --> 01:26:34.039 she said Amy bad Gorilla had a cigarette. 1761 01:26:34.199 --> 01:26:39.520 Yeah, she's pregnant. 1762 01:26:39.680 --> 01:26:42.199 Like the this like another sequel to like those child 1763 01:26:42.279 --> 01:26:45.359 playing movies. Yeah the bone song. 1764 01:26:45.479 --> 01:26:52.439 But yeah, yeah, Stephen c says, Congo, it's not Jurassic 1765 01:26:52.600 --> 01:26:54.960 Park because gorillas aren't dinosaurs. 1766 01:26:55.600 --> 01:26:58.760 What Okay, so far a minute to unpack that. 1767 01:27:00.399 --> 01:27:03.520 But Creighton, like usual, has mastered the ability of giving 1768 01:27:03.680 --> 01:27:06.840 enough about the characters to keep the story going. This 1769 01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:11.800 book left me wanting more, more details, more explanations, more action. 1770 01:27:12.960 --> 01:27:13.119 Yeah. 1771 01:27:13.279 --> 01:27:15.000 Is that meaning because the book's not. 1772 01:27:15.399 --> 01:27:18.880 Are all these five star reviews are like listening qualities. 1773 01:27:19.359 --> 01:27:21.760 It leaves me wanting more. You're like, I want more chapters, 1774 01:27:21.840 --> 01:27:26.600 not more details, arcter development, not a lot, more forethought, 1775 01:27:27.319 --> 01:27:29.640 more adjectives, more proof reading. 1776 01:27:29.920 --> 01:27:33.319 Not because it was bad quality, but it was like 1777 01:27:33.520 --> 01:27:37.039 candy on Halloween. Once you start, you just can't stop 1778 01:27:37.119 --> 01:27:37.880 wanting more of it. 1779 01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:38.880 Five stars. 1780 01:27:39.039 --> 01:27:39.720 That is true. 1781 01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:42.960 I would part of that, but I have eaten three 1782 01:27:43.079 --> 01:27:45.159 hundred skod ols. We are eating candy. 1783 01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:48.439 Yeah, we haves It works all right. One more from 1784 01:27:48.560 --> 01:27:50.159 Diana Oliviera. 1785 01:27:50.960 --> 01:27:52.359 She says yes. 1786 01:27:53.279 --> 01:27:56.199 She says, very nice reading, like the story a lot 1787 01:27:56.319 --> 01:28:01.399 found in, very captivating, totally comn reading it was. 1788 01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:04.319 She complimenting herself. Very nice reading. 1789 01:28:08.199 --> 01:28:08.680 It is again. 1790 01:28:14.079 --> 01:28:17.199 Also, I just noticed a tendency in myself that I 1791 01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:20.239 really like reading about Africa. I'm not sure if I'd 1792 01:28:20.359 --> 01:28:23.279 like to go there because most books I've read involved 1793 01:28:23.319 --> 01:28:26.399 people getting attacked by animals and or killed. But who 1794 01:28:26.520 --> 01:28:31.720 knows to summarize liked it, recommend it five stars school review. 1795 01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.920 Now if she went there, she could speak on behalf 1796 01:28:35.960 --> 01:28:37.960 of the country continent. 1797 01:28:40.079 --> 01:28:40.760 Got yeah. 1798 01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:45.840 To reviews, movie reviews, even some Yelp reviews. I feel 1799 01:28:45.880 --> 01:28:48.319 like it's that it's it's written from that place where 1800 01:28:48.359 --> 01:28:51.159 you're just falling asleep but you're not fully into treating yet. 1801 01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:53.720 Words just sort of flow out and you're just like, 1802 01:28:54.000 --> 01:28:58.159 look was good and words were soft and crush me. 1803 01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:01.479 Don't want to Yeah, I'd love to go to Africa 1804 01:29:01.520 --> 01:29:04.319 if I wasn't so scared about it from all this stuff. 1805 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:05.920 I've read five star. 1806 01:29:07.039 --> 01:29:09.239 Chimpanzees do eat babies in the wild. 1807 01:29:09.359 --> 01:29:11.039 There, Drew, I know what, it's a fact. 1808 01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:15.000 Great, let's give our reviews. Let's start with our guests, 1809 01:29:15.079 --> 01:29:18.800 Colin on a scale of your own, choosing, Oh yeah, 1810 01:29:18.960 --> 01:29:20.960 how would you read this book and would you recommend it? 1811 01:29:21.960 --> 01:29:22.239 Great? 1812 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:22.840 I do? 1813 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.159 Oh yeah, I do. I can. I can do it 1814 01:29:25.279 --> 01:29:28.479 on this the straight up, like one to five or 1815 01:29:28.600 --> 01:29:31.960 zero to five. But I also do one. Okay, So 1816 01:29:32.800 --> 01:29:35.319 so this is the So this is pretty much how 1817 01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.520 Michael and I rate all the books that we talk 1818 01:29:38.600 --> 01:29:42.520 about on our podcast. Let me just pull it up here. 1819 01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:45.560 It's it's called a literaty with Colin on Michael wherever 1820 01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:50.760 you get puking a thousand so funny stuff so. 1821 01:29:50.840 --> 01:29:53.199 Yeah, we have our own system of rating books, and 1822 01:29:54.119 --> 01:29:56.479 we use this system for every single book we read. 1823 01:29:56.600 --> 01:30:00.079 And uh, it's a five tier rating system. So the 1824 01:30:00.159 --> 01:30:04.640 first one is the first category is did the book 1825 01:30:04.720 --> 01:30:07.960 have big ass monkeys? So Congo gets a five out. 1826 01:30:07.800 --> 01:30:15.119 Of five on that one, saying it is big big ass. 1827 01:30:15.239 --> 01:30:19.039 Is for all books we read. So the next category 1828 01:30:19.239 --> 01:30:22.680 is did the book provide awesome descriptions of these big 1829 01:30:22.760 --> 01:30:26.560 ass monkeys? Congo gets a five out of five. Described 1830 01:30:27.079 --> 01:30:30.199 next one, did the main characters go on a jungle 1831 01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:33.720 adventure with big ass monkeys as a sidekick? Congo gets 1832 01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:34.880 a five out of five on this one. 1833 01:30:35.119 --> 01:30:37.600 We've read a lot of the Pulitzer Prize wunning books 1834 01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:39.039 and like they're getting terrible reviews. 1835 01:30:39.119 --> 01:30:42.720 Yeah, did the big ass monkeys freak out and function 1836 01:30:42.880 --> 01:30:44.960 it up? Congo gets a five out of five. 1837 01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:48.840 And then uh, this can be applied to like magazine. 1838 01:30:49.039 --> 01:30:54.000 Yeah, and then a story plot and captivated captivating writing style, 1839 01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:55.560 Congo gets a two out of five. 1840 01:30:56.239 --> 01:30:58.960 That is that is our rating system, So that's a 1841 01:30:59.039 --> 01:31:02.000 seventeen out of Yeah, yeah, I did pretty well. 1842 01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:04.399 So like other books that have done well for us 1843 01:31:04.520 --> 01:31:10.319 have been like Curious Geors yeah, Jane Goodall's My Life 1844 01:31:10.439 --> 01:31:15.840 with the Chimpanzee. Yeah, I'm surprisingly Dunston checks in even 1845 01:31:15.880 --> 01:31:17.479 though it's a movie did very well. 1846 01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:19.119 Yeah. 1847 01:31:19.560 --> 01:31:22.159 But yeah, like Michael said, a lot of the what 1848 01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:25.800 is deemed the classic works of literature don't do on 1849 01:31:25.920 --> 01:31:26.800 your scale, don't. 1850 01:31:27.159 --> 01:31:29.199 Well, yeah, I'm sorry. 1851 01:31:29.560 --> 01:31:31.119 We said we'd circle back around to it, so I 1852 01:31:31.239 --> 01:31:32.840 just want to make sure we hit it. And who 1853 01:31:32.880 --> 01:31:36.960 would you what deceased author would you have sex with? 1854 01:31:37.399 --> 01:31:37.560 Uh? 1855 01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:45.079 You would have sex with Jane Goodall? Yeah, because I 1856 01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:48.000 love those I love those crazy monkeys. He's always talking 1857 01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:48.800 about those books. 1858 01:31:48.880 --> 01:31:52.079 Yeah, I already said, Doctor SEUs. And the fact that 1859 01:31:52.119 --> 01:31:53.560 you don't remember that makes. 1860 01:31:53.399 --> 01:31:55.399 Me, Oh, I remember that you said it. I was 1861 01:31:55.520 --> 01:31:59.119 talking to Colin. Oh okay, I thought, yeah, what's your reading? 1862 01:31:59.399 --> 01:31:59.520 Oh? 1863 01:31:59.600 --> 01:32:02.600 My writing two blue diamonds out of five blue diamonds. 1864 01:32:03.079 --> 01:32:05.159 It wasn't It wasn't the worst thing I've ever read, 1865 01:32:05.199 --> 01:32:08.479 but it just didn't really like. I found myself angry 1866 01:32:08.520 --> 01:32:10.760 at the book more often than I wanted to be. Yeah, 1867 01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:13.159 and I thought that there was if there was a 1868 01:32:13.199 --> 01:32:15.560 little one or two more layers thrown, and it would 1869 01:32:15.600 --> 01:32:17.560 have been a really fun, good read. But it just 1870 01:32:17.840 --> 01:32:19.039 kind of felt like a first draft. 1871 01:32:19.560 --> 01:32:23.159 Yes, I agree on that first draft did really make 1872 01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:24.439 me want a blue diamond. 1873 01:32:25.319 --> 01:32:28.399 That was probably the thing that Listen, Sarah, we're looking, We're. 1874 01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:31.720 On I really want one expedition. 1875 01:32:32.640 --> 01:32:35.079 Wells want to want everyone in the book except Amie. 1876 01:32:36.319 --> 01:32:37.640 You got to go to the Congo. 1877 01:32:37.920 --> 01:32:40.680 Yeah, okay, and you're gonna get there. Yeah, Sarah, how 1878 01:32:40.680 --> 01:32:41.239 would you read it? 1879 01:32:42.279 --> 01:32:45.439 I thought, I at the beginning of this book thought, 1880 01:32:45.600 --> 01:32:46.840 oh no, this is a good book. 1881 01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:51.800 Oh no, she texted me, I think I like it. 1882 01:32:51.960 --> 01:32:55.119 Yes, we secret no, no, but agrees with you on 1883 01:32:55.159 --> 01:32:56.479 that's this. 1884 01:32:56.560 --> 01:32:59.000 Diary very like you were worried. 1885 01:32:59.039 --> 01:33:00.399 You're like, oh, this is going to be a good one. 1886 01:33:00.640 --> 01:33:03.399 Yeah, and someone when it's a good one, we turn 1887 01:33:03.479 --> 01:33:05.760 on each other and it's just because we can't make 1888 01:33:05.760 --> 01:33:06.840 fun of the book because we like it. 1889 01:33:06.920 --> 01:33:10.960 So then we're just meanful, genuinely concerned because it could 1890 01:33:11.000 --> 01:33:11.760 be anyone. 1891 01:33:12.760 --> 01:33:13.319 But it would be. 1892 01:33:13.720 --> 01:33:15.279 It really could turn on anyone, or it could just 1893 01:33:15.319 --> 01:33:18.199 be Sabrina. Every time it could be it could be. 1894 01:33:18.319 --> 01:33:20.000 It has been a couple of times. 1895 01:33:21.199 --> 01:33:23.079 I feel like I I often take. 1896 01:33:22.960 --> 01:33:25.760 The role of the villain, so I think that they're 1897 01:33:25.840 --> 01:33:28.640 very excited to be the nicest. 1898 01:33:28.600 --> 01:33:31.279 Nicest, the villain a joker type. 1899 01:33:32.159 --> 01:33:36.760 No, I would say that exactly describes Sabrina. I feel 1900 01:33:36.760 --> 01:33:38.159 like I'm sewing chaos. 1901 01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.279 Ernest you're wearing right now. 1902 01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:45.359 The jokers earnest, he believes the archetypical joker. Yeah. 1903 01:33:46.880 --> 01:33:50.359 Anyway, so this book, uh yeah, I would give this 1904 01:33:50.479 --> 01:33:54.159 a two out of five because I made it all 1905 01:33:54.239 --> 01:33:58.680 the way through and it sucked, but it didn't suck 1906 01:33:58.720 --> 01:34:00.359 as bad as other things. So it gets two out 1907 01:34:00.359 --> 01:34:00.640 of five. 1908 01:34:00.800 --> 01:34:04.880 Oh bad, This is Clara. You know I'm going three 1909 01:34:04.920 --> 01:34:05.399 out of five. 1910 01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:08.279 Here's why. Wow, Hi rating? 1911 01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:10.640 Okay, First of all, I pushed this book so hard. 1912 01:34:10.680 --> 01:34:15.399 I have to rate it high. Sure, number two. I 1913 01:34:15.600 --> 01:34:20.039 like being reminded of Coco. That's gonna do it. 1914 01:34:20.239 --> 01:34:22.199 There's easier ways to remind yourself of Coco. 1915 01:34:22.479 --> 01:34:26.359 That's true, you too, but this is a nice, nice reminder. 1916 01:34:26.439 --> 01:34:28.439 And you know what, I did watch some Cocoa videos, 1917 01:34:28.600 --> 01:34:31.840 you know, during the book. So yeah, three out of five. 1918 01:34:31.960 --> 01:34:37.319 Great job, Michael jan Uh this is John and j Bone. 1919 01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:41.199 Here I was with Sarah. I was worried the book 1920 01:34:41.279 --> 01:34:43.560 was going to be good. It was real panicked about 1921 01:34:43.560 --> 01:34:46.640 it and knew how good Jurassic Park was. I don't 1922 01:34:46.760 --> 01:34:48.560 like how many times we said we are glad Michael 1923 01:34:48.640 --> 01:34:49.399 Crichton was dead. 1924 01:34:49.560 --> 01:34:53.000 So that is the thing to the podcast. 1925 01:34:55.159 --> 01:34:56.479 The author. I'm gonna go ahead and give it a 1926 01:34:56.560 --> 01:34:57.319 five out of five. 1927 01:34:59.640 --> 01:35:01.800 All right, I'm going down to two out of five 1928 01:35:01.960 --> 01:35:04.520 to start balancing things, Sabrina. 1929 01:35:06.119 --> 01:35:08.079 I never wanted to read this book. 1930 01:35:08.199 --> 01:35:08.399 Ever. 1931 01:35:08.720 --> 01:35:10.720 I do want to clear something up that I forgot. 1932 01:35:10.800 --> 01:35:14.119 I forgot to my words. 1933 01:35:14.439 --> 01:35:17.079 I forgot to clear up when I was talking earlier, 1934 01:35:17.159 --> 01:35:19.880 when I was talking about the racism, I said that 1935 01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:21.680 we don't know that Monroe. 1936 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:23.119 Was white because they never said it. 1937 01:35:23.439 --> 01:35:27.279 That was a joke because every time someone wasn't white, 1938 01:35:27.359 --> 01:35:29.520 they did say so. 1939 01:35:29.560 --> 01:35:32.159 I just wanted the audience to know that we do. 1940 01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:35.880 Know that Monroe is white, and that I'm giving this 1941 01:35:36.000 --> 01:35:38.920 book a one out of five. I'm going to give 1942 01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:43.159 the Little Kid's Book Report a four. 1943 01:35:45.479 --> 01:35:46.079 Facts wrong. 1944 01:35:46.760 --> 01:35:52.840 I thought that the kid, that kid, little Sean Connery, 1945 01:35:53.039 --> 01:35:56.359 wrote this book report, and I'm giving that a four 1946 01:35:56.359 --> 01:35:56.800 out of five. 1947 01:35:56.880 --> 01:35:59.800 But this book was very, very boring, and I hated it. 1948 01:36:00.119 --> 01:36:00.920 I hate Clara for. 1949 01:36:01.000 --> 01:36:03.840 Picking okay, nice, trying to turn the tables. 1950 01:36:03.960 --> 01:36:08.079 You hate Clara Billan for picking it and never want 1951 01:36:08.199 --> 01:36:11.800 to read anything again one out of five. 1952 01:36:12.319 --> 01:36:14.760 All right. Next week we're reading The Woman in the 1953 01:36:14.800 --> 01:36:18.680 Window by aj Finn, and we've also got a special 1954 01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:22.560 guest that episode, Becky CHICOI Boo boo boo. So you're 1955 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.279 gonna definitely want to tune in and listen to that one. 1956 01:36:25.640 --> 01:36:28.880 At Meme book Club on all of the socials. Memebook 1957 01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:30.600 Club at jamail dot com. If you want to get 1958 01:36:30.640 --> 01:36:33.039 at us, please find our Patreon give us money. 1959 01:36:33.119 --> 01:36:38.239 We are so thirsty. Colin and Michael, can I get 1960 01:36:38.279 --> 01:36:39.039 some plugs from me? 1961 01:36:39.119 --> 01:36:41.600 All you guys might have a live show coming up? 1962 01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:46.039 We sure do. Well. You can listen to Literati. Colin 1963 01:36:46.079 --> 01:36:47.680 you want to look up on our live shows unless 1964 01:36:47.680 --> 01:36:47.920 you know it. 1965 01:36:48.039 --> 01:36:48.600 I do know it? 1966 01:36:48.640 --> 01:36:51.439 Okay, great, So you can listen to Literati with Colin 1967 01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:55.039 and Michael anywhere you get podcasts. We have new episodes 1968 01:36:55.119 --> 01:36:59.039 every Monday, and we have great comedians on reading excerpts 1969 01:36:59.079 --> 01:37:01.439 from books they've written, but they're just pretending to have 1970 01:37:01.479 --> 01:37:03.439 written them. So you get really funny people reading really 1971 01:37:03.479 --> 01:37:06.239 funny stuff and terrible writing advice from Colin and I. 1972 01:37:06.720 --> 01:37:10.439 And we got a show coming up at Caveat on 1973 01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:16.720 November sixth, which is a Wednesday. Uh yeah, Literati is 1974 01:37:16.760 --> 01:37:19.920 coming back to Caveat uh for the as part of 1975 01:37:19.960 --> 01:37:23.319 the New York Comedy Festival. So get your tickets, come 1976 01:37:23.399 --> 01:37:23.920 get your ticket. 1977 01:37:24.159 --> 01:37:24.920 A loss in public. 1978 01:37:25.159 --> 01:37:27.640 Yeah, and you're you're welcome that you're open to that. 1979 01:37:28.079 --> 01:37:32.880 I mean, honestly, we love engagement with our fans, which 1980 01:37:32.960 --> 01:37:34.239 are mostly enemies. 1981 01:37:34.359 --> 01:37:34.800 Are fans. 1982 01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:38.000 Yeah, I always say I hate listen still counts as 1983 01:37:38.039 --> 01:37:40.760 a listen, and everyone says, true, we don't like that. 1984 01:37:41.239 --> 01:37:43.479 Usually what I've said, you say, we never have heard 1985 01:37:43.520 --> 01:37:46.079 you say, well, no, I hate, but we don't want 1986 01:37:46.119 --> 01:37:46.600 them to hate. 1987 01:37:46.680 --> 01:37:50.199 Review us. Yeah, that's what's we want five stars. We 1988 01:37:50.239 --> 01:37:51.960 would like you to go on iTunes and review. 1989 01:37:51.960 --> 01:37:53.640 I believe I'll give you a review right now. 1990 01:37:56.960 --> 01:37:59.039 I do think sometimes we make people med and they 1991 01:37:59.439 --> 01:38:01.199 respond the quick one star. 1992 01:38:02.520 --> 01:38:05.359 Have you guys checked oura mean book club Gmail? We've 1993 01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:07.439 got some complimentary emails recently. 1994 01:38:07.520 --> 01:38:09.680 I don't know how to check the femail. 1995 01:38:10.039 --> 01:38:12.159 Do you want me to tell you right now? Yeah, 1996 01:38:12.439 --> 01:38:20.439 it's the password for all of our things. Okay, congo, great, great, great. 1997 01:38:20.279 --> 01:38:24.239 Well, thank you guys for being here and we loved it. 1998 01:38:24.680 --> 01:38:25.439 Didn't we Clara? 1999 01:38:25.840 --> 01:38:26.199 I did? 2000 01:38:26.359 --> 01:38:28.760 Yeah, two out of five hot garbage. 2001 01:38:29.039 --> 01:38:30.239 Oh you didn't mean the book you. 2002 01:38:33.319 --> 01:38:33.840 Yes, I. 2003 01:38:35.479 --> 01:38:36.399 Was Clara. 2004 01:38:36.920 --> 01:38:39.279 Okay, sure, sure, easy, all right? 2005 01:38:39.359 --> 01:38:40.279 Bet a fie for Clara. 2006 01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:42.359 Thank you guys so much for coming. 2007 01:38:42.560 --> 01:38:44.159 We will see you next week. 2008 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:48.880 Bye bye bye, see you later, guys,