WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.559 --> 00:00:07.160 This is a story that's not for the faint of heart. 2 00:00:08.439 --> 00:00:12.400 This is a story with twists and turns that will 3 00:00:12.400 --> 00:00:16.719 not leave you happy with the end results. This is 4 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:23.039 a story with unanswered questions, confusion, and utter shock. I 5 00:00:23.120 --> 00:00:26.160 strongly recommend you listen to this case and keep an 6 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:30.160 open mind to every perspective and understand what you think 7 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:36.159 you may know could be entirely wrong. This is the 8 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:40.759 story of two year old Kayleie Anthony, how she died 9 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.840 and her mother, Casey Anthony's involvement. 10 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:47.719 Warning. 11 00:00:48.320 --> 00:00:53.960 The following podcast contains content and material intended format. 12 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:57.799 Your audience. Listener discretion is advised. 13 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:15.719 Hey, what's up. 14 00:01:15.920 --> 00:01:19.000 My name's Ben and I'm Nicole and you're listening to 15 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:20.560 Wicked and Grim, a. 16 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:26.000 True crime podcast. We're gonna do it. 17 00:01:26.040 --> 00:01:26.560 We're doing it. 18 00:01:26.680 --> 00:01:26.920 Do it? 19 00:01:27.000 --> 00:01:27.280 Okay? 20 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:28.040 Three two one? 21 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:30.959 Ah. 22 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.599 That was very anti climactic. 23 00:01:33.359 --> 00:01:35.359 And I got it all over myself. 24 00:01:35.480 --> 00:01:37.359 That's what she said, you got to go more like this. 25 00:01:38.920 --> 00:01:42.560 Well, my lid's different. I think it's my lid's fault. 26 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:44.680 Just hid it. I actually I am not very good 27 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:47.359 at opening cans. I'm not gonna lie opening cans and 28 00:01:47.400 --> 00:01:48.159 tying balloons. 29 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.439 I just like I have trouble, you're too deficit. Say yeah, 30 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:52.680 if we all have them. 31 00:01:52.959 --> 00:01:55.959 But h our local brewer, you got our two favorite 32 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.439 drinks back in stock or yeah, hinder, whatever you want 33 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:01.319 to say. So we're like we're on cloud nine. 34 00:02:01.400 --> 00:02:03.760 Yeah we're we're definitely drinking it up. We got I've 35 00:02:03.799 --> 00:02:06.560 got the thousand Peaks from Trench Brewing. 36 00:02:06.760 --> 00:02:08.879 And then I have the Peach Rosemary, which is at 37 00:02:08.960 --> 00:02:13.240 vod cuts Seltzer, also from Trench Soul freakin delicious. 38 00:02:13.240 --> 00:02:15.400 However, I just want to give a shout out to 39 00:02:15.479 --> 00:02:17.840 all the other breweries in town, because not to say 40 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.479 that I don't like Crossroads or I don't like Deadfall 41 00:02:20.520 --> 00:02:23.479 Brewing or Caribou. You guys are all awesome. However, Trench 42 00:02:23.599 --> 00:02:26.319 just so happens to have this one that is like 43 00:02:26.560 --> 00:02:27.159 my favorite. 44 00:02:27.280 --> 00:02:29.319 Yeah, your favorite beer. So, but you drink a lot 45 00:02:29.360 --> 00:02:30.599 of other beers too, Oh yeah. 46 00:02:30.479 --> 00:02:32.319 I go all across the board. They all got good stuff. 47 00:02:32.319 --> 00:02:35.120 This one's just you know, it's just my favorite, this one, this. 48 00:02:35.120 --> 00:02:37.479 One beer well and showed out to the new one. 49 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:38.479 Oh yeah, dead Fall. 50 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:41.199 Dead Fall person got a cool new brewery which just spacewaight, 51 00:02:41.520 --> 00:02:42.520 I'll uh, I'll be. 52 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:44.479 Making sure I drink them in future episodes too, so 53 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.680 I'll be talking lots about them. Absolutely, got to support 54 00:02:47.719 --> 00:02:49.960 the local, the local love. Yeah, well, there. 55 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:53.360 Isn't really much for local that I will like drink 56 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.479 because it's most like beer, right, but then this place 57 00:02:55.560 --> 00:03:00.400 has a different drink. Some usually like wine or like 58 00:03:00.520 --> 00:03:01.639 a cooler of sorts. 59 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:06.120 Yeah, these are siders. So see, you said, what do 60 00:03:06.120 --> 00:03:07.199 we got to talk about today? 61 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:11.479 We got lots and lots of juicy things. First of all, okay, 62 00:03:11.479 --> 00:03:15.639 this is cool. We got two pieces of mail from listeners, 63 00:03:15.639 --> 00:03:17.879 which is like unbelievable. 64 00:03:18.360 --> 00:03:21.560 Technically, I think we can say this is fan mail. 65 00:03:21.680 --> 00:03:23.280 I think I don't know. Can we say that? 66 00:03:24.000 --> 00:03:24.400 I don't know? 67 00:03:24.639 --> 00:03:26.599 Nah, I mean that they're more than just fans. 68 00:03:26.599 --> 00:03:30.479 But you know what I mean, friend mail, mail for friends. 69 00:03:29.680 --> 00:03:33.919 Mail from friends sounds weird. Yeah, it does. Almost sounds 70 00:03:33.960 --> 00:03:35.680 like like a sexual thing. 71 00:03:35.719 --> 00:03:39.560 It kind of does. So I'm moving on. But yeah, 72 00:03:39.560 --> 00:03:44.159 I don't have it. So Leah Page, Yeah she sent us. 73 00:03:44.280 --> 00:03:48.120 She sent us a awesome epic handmade Halloween scrap book 74 00:03:48.159 --> 00:03:48.599 with like. 75 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:52.199 A handmade card and everything. It was like kind of awesome. 76 00:03:51.960 --> 00:03:56.080 Incredible work. So good jobs on that. That was ridiculously cool. 77 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:57.159 Yeah, it was so sweet. 78 00:03:57.319 --> 00:03:59.439 We'll put that to good use one hundred percent. And 79 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:02.360 Michelle Canon sent us over some Harry Potter key chains 80 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:05.439 from Universal with our names on it, yes and everything 81 00:04:05.840 --> 00:04:06.599 so cool. 82 00:04:06.680 --> 00:04:08.439 It's a later day Actually. 83 00:04:08.199 --> 00:04:10.000 Mine is actually not going on a keychain. It went 84 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:12.599 on my backpack and the little front zipper. Yeah, so 85 00:04:13.159 --> 00:04:15.319 that's my everyday work backpack. It goes with me to 86 00:04:15.360 --> 00:04:16.000 work every day. 87 00:04:16.040 --> 00:04:17.639 Now. Yes, now it has your name on it, so 88 00:04:17.680 --> 00:04:18.959 no one can take it exactly. 89 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.800 I'm like, bitch, that's my bag, hands off. Yeah. I 90 00:04:22.839 --> 00:04:26.439 don't know if anyone remembers King of the Hill if 91 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:29.120 they ever watched it. I just reminded me of Bobby Hill. 92 00:04:29.439 --> 00:04:33.040 That's my purse, I don't know you, because he taught 93 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:36.399 he was taking self defense lesson classes. But it was 94 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:38.639 like he's like a thirteen year old kid. Yeah, but 95 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:41.920 he was taking women's self defense classes. So he learned 96 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:45.199 to shout that term that's my purse, I don't know you, 97 00:04:45.240 --> 00:04:47.319 and then kick the attacker in the balls. That's awesome, 98 00:04:48.000 --> 00:04:51.279 That's what it reminded me of. Oh, I want to 99 00:04:51.319 --> 00:04:55.480 talk about Obi Wan Kenobi the series. Okay, first off, 100 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:58.439 everyone out there. You need to convince Nicole to watch 101 00:04:58.439 --> 00:04:59.879 this series with me, because she's a start. 102 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:01.600 Thank goodness, what are you doing. 103 00:05:03.639 --> 00:05:05.720 I'm really trying to get you to love Star Wars, 104 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:07.920 is what I'm trying to do. I haven't watched it yet, 105 00:05:07.959 --> 00:05:10.720 but I've been waiting for this series, like this particular series, 106 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:12.079 for a long. Look. 107 00:05:12.120 --> 00:05:14.120 Hey, I can't remember I've already asked you this. But 108 00:05:14.160 --> 00:05:15.839 did I have to watch other things? 109 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:17.639 I mean, you don't, but it helps. 110 00:05:17.879 --> 00:05:19.519 I did watch that one thing because I was into 111 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:20.120 Baby Yoda. 112 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:22.000 Yeah, you watched The Mandalorian. 113 00:05:22.240 --> 00:05:24.720 That was good. Actually, I was actually super into that. 114 00:05:25.040 --> 00:05:26.240 It was a good show, and I feel like it 115 00:05:26.319 --> 00:05:28.120 might have had to do a lot with Baby Yoda, 116 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:28.920 but I'm unsure. 117 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:32.839 Yeah, everyone went nuts for Baby Yoda, so cute, although 118 00:05:32.839 --> 00:05:35.160 it's technically not Yoda. It's not Baby Yoda. It's Grogu. 119 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:40.199 Oh okay, just the same species. Yeah, okay. Yeah. We 120 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.240 should actually go back to the patrons though, because both 121 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:46.680 Michelle and Leah were patrons, and we should go back 122 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:48.240 and thank our new patrons for this week. 123 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:50.399 Oh yeah, okay, yeah, let's do it. 124 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:54.199 We only had one sign up this week, so glory 125 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:57.720 moment in the spotlight to Alexandria, I'm really sorry if 126 00:05:57.720 --> 00:06:02.439 I say your last name wrong. Heat Meyer Hightemeier. Yeah, awesome, 127 00:06:02.480 --> 00:06:04.959 that's all I know, And I don't know how to say. 128 00:06:05.040 --> 00:06:08.759 You are awesome. You're very awesome. But thank you so much. 129 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:10.720 It means the world to us for people like you 130 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:13.439 supporting us on Patreon, So thank you, thank you, and 131 00:06:13.519 --> 00:06:14.879 of course thank you. 132 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:16.800 So yeah, there you go. 133 00:06:17.600 --> 00:06:20.399 Should we get into the case, I think so? You 134 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:21.040 ready for it? 135 00:06:21.319 --> 00:06:26.839 Yeah, because we're also recording a Patreon exclusive episode after this, 136 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:28.759 that's right, which is super awesome. 137 00:06:28.920 --> 00:06:30.720 So we got to get to bed, so we got 138 00:06:30.759 --> 00:06:31.959 to make best of our time here. 139 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:36.079 Yeah, so we got to record two and let's get 140 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:36.680 ready to roll. 141 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:38.519 Yeah, I'm ready. So if you want to catch that 142 00:06:38.560 --> 00:06:40.879 Patreon exclusive case, you can only get it you sign 143 00:06:40.959 --> 00:06:44.480 up for Patron drops every day on the last or 144 00:06:44.720 --> 00:06:46.040 every last day of the month. 145 00:06:46.120 --> 00:06:48.480 Yeah. So they're literally getting two episodes tomorrow, which is 146 00:06:48.519 --> 00:06:49.000 kind of awesome. 147 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:50.120 Yeah, it'll be a great day. 148 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:50.600 Yep. 149 00:06:50.879 --> 00:06:54.879 Okay, so let's do this. Our story is going to 150 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:59.920 start on July fifteenth, two thousand and eight, in Orlando, Florida, 151 00:07:00.079 --> 00:07:03.879 with a nine one one phone call. So it starts 152 00:07:03.879 --> 00:07:07.240 with two year old Casey Anthony, who was reported missing 153 00:07:07.279 --> 00:07:11.519 by her grandmother Cindy Anthony. During the recorded call, she 154 00:07:11.680 --> 00:07:14.839 was frantic and audibly shook. She told a nine one 155 00:07:15.000 --> 00:07:18.480 one dispatcher that she had not seen her granddaughter for 156 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:23.040 thirty one days and her her daughter, Casey Anthony, had 157 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:26.720 just admitted to the fact that someone had taken her. 158 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:31.319 Oh boy, yes. So after a moment on the call, 159 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:35.360 Cindy hands the phone over to her daughter, Casey, And 160 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:38.839 it's a bit odd. The tone in her voice was 161 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:41.600 much different than her mother's when talking to the nine 162 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:45.600 one one dispatcher. Okay, so I've got a little insert 163 00:07:45.600 --> 00:07:47.319 from that nine one one call here, I'm gonna play 164 00:07:47.319 --> 00:07:53.279 for you guys. I called her a little bit good 165 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:54.079 at SIF. 166 00:07:54.079 --> 00:07:56.800 I found that my grandfather has some like she hasn't 167 00:07:56.839 --> 00:08:01.480 listened from. We're talking about it for you, little girl. Oh, 168 00:08:01.480 --> 00:08:03.279 my daughter finally admitted the baby. 169 00:08:04.600 --> 00:08:05.720 I need to find her. 170 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.000 Your daughter admitted that your the baby is. Where did 171 00:08:09.079 --> 00:08:10.079 you sort of took her once? 172 00:08:10.160 --> 00:08:10.279 To go? 173 00:08:10.480 --> 00:08:12.720 My daughter's been looking for I told you my daughter 174 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:13.680 was no sing for a month. 175 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:15.079 I just found her today that. 176 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:18.120 I can't find my granddaughter. She just admitted to me 177 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:23.160 that she's been trying to find her herself. There's something wrong. 178 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.959 I found my daughter's car today and it's round like 179 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:27.800 her dead daughter in their own car. 180 00:08:27.879 --> 00:08:29.360 Okay. What is the three year old's name? 181 00:08:29.879 --> 00:08:34.759 Kaylee se air Y l e e. Anthony Hailey Anthony? Yeah? 182 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.080 How long has she been missing for? I have not 183 00:08:38.279 --> 00:08:40.279 seen her since the seventh of June? 184 00:08:40.679 --> 00:08:42.279 Is your daughter there? Yeah? 185 00:08:42.440 --> 00:08:43.840 Can I speak with her? 186 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:45.480 Okay? 187 00:08:45.639 --> 00:08:53.120 They want to trust you. Hello, Hello, Yeah, can you 188 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:55.360 tell me what's going on a little bit? I'm sorry, 189 00:08:55.399 --> 00:08:56.200 can you tell me a little bit? 190 00:08:56.200 --> 00:08:56.720 What's going on? 191 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:02.720 And my daughter's been missing for the last one day? Yeah? 192 00:09:03.000 --> 00:09:05.440 And you know who ever? I know who? 193 00:09:05.559 --> 00:09:08.480 After I've tried to contact her, I actually received a 194 00:09:08.559 --> 00:09:11.440 phone call today now from a number of that is 195 00:09:11.559 --> 00:09:13.799 no longer in service. I did get to speak to 196 00:09:13.840 --> 00:09:16.840 my daughter for about a moment, about a minute, to 197 00:09:17.080 --> 00:09:20.000 have her do you have a name? Her name is 198 00:09:20.320 --> 00:09:22.639 ben Ya Fernanda has been lallas. 199 00:09:23.360 --> 00:09:24.799 Who is that baby? Said? 200 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:28.120 She's been my nanny for about a year and a half, 201 00:09:28.159 --> 00:09:30.879 almost two years. Why are you calling now? Why didn't 202 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:33.639 you call it any one days ago? I've been looking 203 00:09:33.679 --> 00:09:37.080 for her and have gone through other resources to try 204 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:41.320 to find her, which was stupid. I think the officers 205 00:09:41.320 --> 00:09:42.799 are here, the opposite are there. 206 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:47.919 Yes, So that's the nine one one call to report 207 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:49.600 the little girl missing. 208 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:52.639 Wow, that was intense. 209 00:09:52.919 --> 00:09:54.720 It was what do you take away from that call? 210 00:09:56.960 --> 00:09:59.440 Oh my gosh, there was so much because like, yeah, 211 00:09:59.440 --> 00:10:01.559 the grandma, it was just like frantic, and it almost 212 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:03.639 just sounded like the mom had like gone through some 213 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:06.840 shit as well or something, because like the mom said 214 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.759 that the grandma sorry, had said that the mom was 215 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.600 also like missing too. Kind of. 216 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:16.759 Yes, So how it played out is we'll touch on 217 00:10:16.799 --> 00:10:19.000 it here in a little bit. But essentially, the daughter 218 00:10:19.039 --> 00:10:23.600 had been missing for these days with the granddaughter, but 219 00:10:23.679 --> 00:10:27.399 there was communication with the daughter to the grand grandmother. Okay, 220 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:31.320 so finally the daughter was home and admitted the granddaughter was. 221 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:35.080 Missing and she was searching for her this whole time, yes, 222 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.360 or trying to get her from the babysitter. 223 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:40.240 Yes, that's what she does. 224 00:10:40.600 --> 00:10:43.159 So wild I'm just very intrigued. 225 00:10:43.600 --> 00:10:46.039 Well, the some of the conversation though that we just 226 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:50.120 talked about, it doesn't detail everything. There are actually a 227 00:10:50.120 --> 00:10:52.399 total of three nine to one one calls that were 228 00:10:52.440 --> 00:10:56.159 made in total that began to unravel this whole story. Okay, 229 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:59.600 First and foremost, it describes how two year old Kayley 230 00:10:59.759 --> 00:11:03.840 was had taken by her babysitter. Her mother, Casey, said 231 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:05.759 that it happened thirty one days ago, and she's been 232 00:11:05.799 --> 00:11:10.039 trying to find her daughter on her own. Okay. Now, 233 00:11:10.120 --> 00:11:14.200 Casey's mom, however, Kaylee's grandmother is seriously concerned of the 234 00:11:14.200 --> 00:11:17.919 dire situation. We can clearly hear that in her voice, 235 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.679 much more so by the sounds of it than Casey. 236 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:23.039 Now we didn't hear in that nine on one call 237 00:11:23.120 --> 00:11:27.080 was Cindy's car was impounded. Her daughter had actually stolen 238 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:31.120 that car from Cindy and had gone with Kaylee out 239 00:11:31.159 --> 00:11:32.960 for the past month, like we were just talking about. 240 00:11:33.679 --> 00:11:36.200 So both of Casey's parents ended up figuring out that 241 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.600 the car was impounded and went to pick up her 242 00:11:38.679 --> 00:11:42.080 daughter or their daughter along with the car. And that's 243 00:11:42.120 --> 00:11:46.200 when they noted a strong smell of what we just 244 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.440 heard in the nine on one call, described by Cindy 245 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:53.559 as the smell of a dead body coming from the car. Now, 246 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:55.440 I don't have an audio clip from this other. 247 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:58.039 Nine I must have missed some shit there because I 248 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:01.519 don't even remember the smell of Cindy says, it was 249 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:03.240 hard to understand. It was a bit hard to It 250 00:12:03.320 --> 00:12:05.080 wasn't yeah. 251 00:12:04.440 --> 00:12:07.159 But Cindy in there. One of the things she said 252 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:10.399 was she's calling for help. She said, I need someone here. 253 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:13.519 I just picked up my daughter in the car. Smells 254 00:12:13.679 --> 00:12:17.720 like a dead body. Wow. So she says that in 255 00:12:17.720 --> 00:12:21.240 the clip, Holy heck. So the other nine one one calls. 256 00:12:21.279 --> 00:12:23.159 I don't have audio clips from, but I do have 257 00:12:23.240 --> 00:12:25.559 a transcript, and I do have an insert here I'm 258 00:12:25.600 --> 00:12:27.200 going to talk about and this is from one of 259 00:12:27.240 --> 00:12:29.559 the prior nine one one calls. So the nine on 260 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:33.360 one operator says, and this is between Cindy, the grandmother 261 00:12:33.440 --> 00:12:36.960 and the nine on one operator. So the operator says, Okay, 262 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.200 what did the person do that you need arrested, Cindy says, 263 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:46.559 my daughter. Nine on one operator for what? Cindy for 264 00:12:46.720 --> 00:12:50.399 stealing an auto and stealing money. I already spoke to 265 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.919 someone who said they would patch me through to Orlando 266 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.399 Sheriff's Department and have a deputy here. I was in 267 00:12:56.440 --> 00:12:58.080 the car and I was going to drive her to 268 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:01.279 the police station. And no one will, no one is open. 269 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:03.679 They said they would bring a deputy to my home 270 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.440 when I got home to call them nine on one operator. 271 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:11.919 So she stole your vehicle, Cindy, Yes, nine on one operator. 272 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:16.039 When did she do that, Cindy on the thirtieth in 273 00:13:16.120 --> 00:13:18.120 brackets of June. She didn't say June, but that's what 274 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.639 she's referencing. I got it back from the impound. I'd 275 00:13:21.639 --> 00:13:24.080 like to speak to an officer. Can someone come to 276 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.639 my house? So she's trying to get her daughter arrested, 277 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:31.279 and then in the next nine and one call when 278 00:13:31.320 --> 00:13:33.960 she figures out the granddaughter's missing, she's talking about the 279 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:37.399 smell of a dead body, granddaughter missing and these thefts. 280 00:13:38.039 --> 00:13:40.519 Oh okay, because there was different dates in there and stuff, 281 00:13:40.559 --> 00:13:43.080 But I guess that doesn't really matter. It was because 282 00:13:43.080 --> 00:13:47.519 she had seen her granddaughter early, earlier on or whatever. 283 00:13:48.200 --> 00:13:50.960 Yes, Cindy had seen her granddaughter about a month ago. 284 00:13:51.120 --> 00:13:53.600 That was the last time she saw her grandfather. That 285 00:13:53.679 --> 00:13:55.440 was the last time she seen her daughter. But there 286 00:13:55.519 --> 00:13:58.519 was communication with her daughter between then. Right. 287 00:13:59.200 --> 00:14:02.320 Why was the police station closed? Are they closed? Sometimes? 288 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:03.600 I don't know. 289 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:06.200 I didn't think that they would be, but maybe they are. 290 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:06.960 I have no idea. 291 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.720 Okay, Yeah, anyways, maybe just yeah, emergency numbers or something 292 00:14:10.720 --> 00:14:12.559 would be what you contact. Then I'm not certain. 293 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.639 And also like this is just going to terrify parents 294 00:14:15.639 --> 00:14:18.639 because some parents probably have issues leaving their kids with 295 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:21.600 a babysitter. Yeah, noa, I know I would. I can't 296 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:25.440 even leave my dog with like a dog sitter without 297 00:14:25.480 --> 00:14:26.559 having issues. 298 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:30.600 Now that aside though the whole dog sitting babysitting thing, 299 00:14:31.960 --> 00:14:34.279 I do know. This is a whole overload of information 300 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:36.840 we've gone over so far. This is like jumping in 301 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.960 head first. But the strangest thing about it all seems 302 00:14:40.000 --> 00:14:43.519 to be why Casey was so nonchalant about it. Why 303 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:47.440 would she leave her daughter missing for thirty one days 304 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:49.639 and think she could take care of it on her 305 00:14:49.639 --> 00:14:54.240 own without alerting authorities or even just other family members. 306 00:14:54.600 --> 00:14:57.559 Yeah you think maybe a day, but not a whole momth. 307 00:14:58.879 --> 00:15:01.840 So, as you hear through police or sorry, as you heard, 308 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.279 police had arrived to the scene to investigate, and questioning 309 00:15:05.600 --> 00:15:09.559 had begun, and as we all know, family members are 310 00:15:09.639 --> 00:15:12.720 usually the first suspects in any case. They are the 311 00:15:12.720 --> 00:15:15.360 ones who are the closest with victims, and even if 312 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:19.000 they aren't involved, they can at least provide authorities with 313 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:24.200 extremely important information regarding important locations, people of interest, strange occurrences, 314 00:15:24.480 --> 00:15:27.639 and any other significant events or information that can help 315 00:15:27.679 --> 00:15:31.679 finding the individuals or solving the case. So police started 316 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.679 questioning Casey right out the bat, and they interviewed her 317 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:38.919 as a witness fairly casually at start, and unbeknownst to her, 318 00:15:40.159 --> 00:15:44.440 she wasn't under arrest, but she was under extreme scrutiny 319 00:15:44.879 --> 00:15:47.000 as a main witness currently. 320 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.639 Right now, well that's generally how it goes. 321 00:15:50.240 --> 00:15:54.000 Yeah, right, yeah, one hundred percent. So, yeah, the police 322 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:59.480 were questioning her regarding her story and ultimately regarding her lies. 323 00:16:00.600 --> 00:16:03.879 Oh boy, how old is she? Did we go over that? 324 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:06.799 Actually I never did look up how old she was. 325 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.279 I'm just so curious. She did sound very young. 326 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.879 Yeah, she's a young mother. I would say, like late 327 00:16:12.919 --> 00:16:14.039 twenties to early thirties. 328 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:19.279 Yeah, yeah, I mean she sounded okay, like okay, this 329 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.519 Her voice sounded so kind of chill to me, which 330 00:16:22.559 --> 00:16:26.200 is like unexpected. So I was like, maybe she had 331 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:29.120 gone through shit herself, or maybe she was just like 332 00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.559 I don't know, almost like in shock, shock or even 333 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.480 like under the influence of something or I don't know. 334 00:16:36.519 --> 00:16:38.279 There was just like many things that were going through 335 00:16:38.320 --> 00:16:38.720 my brain. 336 00:16:39.440 --> 00:16:42.320 It's there's gonna be a lot of things going through 337 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:44.360 your brain throughout this entire caset. 338 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:46.360 It that way, Okay, Well, it's very sad that a 339 00:16:46.440 --> 00:16:47.440 child is involved here. 340 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:55.000 It is so. Casey claimed that Kaylie's nanny, Zindaia Zenaida Zanada, 341 00:16:55.080 --> 00:16:59.919 is hyper Nata Sanata also known as Zanni Fernandez Gonzalez, 342 00:17:00.440 --> 00:17:03.840 who she met through a mutual friend, was the individual 343 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:07.759 to take her daughter. Okay, Now, that mutual friend who 344 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:11.559 she met Zeneida through, was by the name of Jeffrey 345 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:15.799 Michael Hopkins. These two had previously met working at Nickelodeon 346 00:17:15.880 --> 00:17:19.759 in Universal Studios Theme Park Cool. Both had worked together 347 00:17:20.400 --> 00:17:25.240 cashtag dream job, hashtag dream job. Could you imagine all 348 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.119 the concession snacks you'd. 349 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:30.880 Get, Oh my gosh, I would, Or the butter beer, Yeah, 350 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:32.880 That's what I'm gonna say. I would, but get one 351 00:17:32.920 --> 00:17:36.759 of those like daily one. Oh yeah, honestly one's good 352 00:17:36.759 --> 00:17:39.000 because remember we had some more than one one time 353 00:17:39.039 --> 00:17:39.920 and we got like sick. 354 00:17:40.119 --> 00:17:43.000 No, I'd be cutting coffee into that every day. I'd 355 00:17:43.039 --> 00:17:45.759 be like three four cups of coffee mixed with butter beer. 356 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:50.160 Oh my guaranteed disgusting, and I would gain so much weight, 357 00:17:50.279 --> 00:17:51.039 but it'd be worth it. 358 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:54.359 Yeah, worth it, oh gosh u. 359 00:17:54.680 --> 00:18:01.079 So regardless of by this time, Casey stated she sorry. 360 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:04.559 Casey stated that Jeffrey hadn't worked there for the past 361 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.039 nine or ten months and he had moved away to 362 00:18:08.160 --> 00:18:12.319 various different cities, kind of moving around. However, this would 363 00:18:12.400 --> 00:18:17.519 later be revealed as one of her lies. Later on 364 00:18:17.599 --> 00:18:20.000 in court, Jeffrey would talk or take the stand and 365 00:18:20.079 --> 00:18:22.720 go under oath describing how he worked at Universal in 366 00:18:22.720 --> 00:18:25.640 two thousand and two to two thousand and three and 367 00:18:25.799 --> 00:18:28.400 never worked with Casey at all, nor did he ever 368 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:32.640 introduce her to anyone by the name of Zeneta Fernandez Gonzalez, 369 00:18:33.319 --> 00:18:36.559 and he never even moved away from the area, described 370 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:37.720 as Casey either. 371 00:18:38.559 --> 00:18:41.480 What a weird lie because obviously they're going to ask. 372 00:18:41.359 --> 00:18:43.880 Him, yep. And it's not like she lied about one thing. 373 00:18:43.920 --> 00:18:48.039 She lied about every detail regarding him, like he doesn't 374 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:48.880 even really know where. 375 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:50.799 That's weird. 376 00:18:51.240 --> 00:18:55.640 They never worked together nothing, okay, so though they didn't 377 00:18:55.640 --> 00:18:58.319 know what just yet, Casey was lying through her teeth 378 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:01.039 right to the investigator's face. And I do want to 379 00:19:01.039 --> 00:19:02.480 bring up a little bit of a quote here, because 380 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:04.079 this is one of my favorite quotes and it's by 381 00:19:04.119 --> 00:19:08.000 Abraham Lincoln actually, so to quote him, No man has 382 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:12.640 a good enough memory to be a successful liar. Yeah, 383 00:19:12.680 --> 00:19:14.240 and that is very much so true. 384 00:19:14.279 --> 00:19:19.240 Oh my gosh, yeah, especially me my memory. Shit, there's 385 00:19:19.279 --> 00:19:21.119 no way I could get through a lie. I feel 386 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:22.839 like it just wouldn't It just wouldn't happen. 387 00:19:22.880 --> 00:19:24.599 Well, the worst thing is it spirals because one lie 388 00:19:24.720 --> 00:19:26.559 leads to another to another to another, and you need 389 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:27.480 to remember how. 390 00:19:27.319 --> 00:19:31.440 And then who you told what to and oh it's. 391 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:34.240 Just like diston't so it's it's very much so true. 392 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:34.720 Yeah. 393 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:38.359 Now, during questioning, Casey tells the story of how her 394 00:19:38.440 --> 00:19:41.480 daughter went missing on June ninth. She said she dropped 395 00:19:41.480 --> 00:19:44.799 her daughter off to Zenaida to look after her while 396 00:19:44.880 --> 00:19:47.559 she went to work at Universal Studios, the same she 397 00:19:47.599 --> 00:19:51.559 had done for the past year or so. Now, after work, 398 00:19:51.640 --> 00:19:53.920 after her shift was over, she went back to pick 399 00:19:53.920 --> 00:19:56.839 her up, but nobody was home. She knocked on the 400 00:19:56.880 --> 00:20:00.559 door and there was no answer. She tried dialing Zanata's 401 00:20:00.599 --> 00:20:03.359