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Military helicopter collided with a flight from Kansas 10 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:39,359 that was bound for Reagan National or DCA, and they 11 00:00:39,359 --> 00:00:44,159 collided as the plane was on approach and about to land. 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,000 They were like three hundred feet off the ground and 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,439 the Blackhawk helicopter had three service members on it. They 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 were all killed. Sixty four people on the airplane were 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:58,679 all killed. The wreckage fell into the Potomac River. Emergency 16 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:04,079 response immediately on scene. And I will let me read 17 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,840 to you the post that Donald Trump sent out last 18 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:13,840 night or early this morning at twelve nineteen am said 19 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,120 the airplane was on a perfect and routine line of 20 00:01:16,159 --> 00:01:19,439 approach to the airport. The helicopter was going straight at 21 00:01:19,439 --> 00:01:22,120 the airplane for an extended period of time. It's a 22 00:01:22,159 --> 00:01:25,359 clear night. The lights on the plane were blazing. Why 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:28,519 didn't the helicopter go up or down or turn? Why 24 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,359 didn't the controlled tower tell the helicopter what to do 25 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,159 instead of asking if they saw the plane. This is 26 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,680 a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. 27 00:01:38,159 --> 00:01:42,400 Not good. So that's what Trump sent out last night 28 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:47,519 early this morning in the aftermath of the crash. Eric 29 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,159 ericson about ten minutes ago. He's a talk show host 30 00:01:50,159 --> 00:01:55,280 down in Atlanta. And for people who are not aware 31 00:01:55,519 --> 00:02:00,000 of what the coverage was going on or looked like 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,640 last night, and what reporters were saying last night, what 33 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,840 Democrats and you know, anti trumpers ever, they were like 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,520 flooding the zone last night with these accusations that this 35 00:02:12,719 --> 00:02:16,680 was somehow the fault of Donald Trump, and you know, 36 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,360 the decision to you know, do the funding freeze or 37 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:23,240 a hiring freeze, or the fa administrator isn't on the 38 00:02:23,319 --> 00:02:26,400 job anymore, and like like somehow or another that caused 39 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,919 the crash. They were tying it to Donald Trump, much 40 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:33,120 like they do in any kind of a tragedy, any 41 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:37,520 kind of a mass casualty event, there's always this race 42 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:42,039 to find a connection to the Republicans, to the president, 43 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,639 you know, and to hang it on them. And so 44 00:02:45,759 --> 00:02:48,919 if you were unaware of all of that that occurred 45 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,199 late last night into the wee early morning hours today, 46 00:02:53,879 --> 00:02:58,800 then what you saw today with the Donald Trump press conference, 47 00:02:58,879 --> 00:03:01,000 or if you heard the press conference where he came 48 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:07,280 out and I made some notes here he talks about. 49 00:03:07,879 --> 00:03:10,879 He starts off by saying, you know, this is a 50 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:16,240 dark and excruciating event in our capital and in our country. 51 00:03:17,199 --> 00:03:23,479 And then he pivots to defend his administration's implementation of 52 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,680 you know, merit based hiring, the ripping out of DEI. 53 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:31,439 He says, I put safety first. You know, That's what 54 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,599 I did in my first term. I'm doing it now. 55 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,919 He said. Barack Obama and Joe Biden and Democrats, they 56 00:03:37,039 --> 00:03:40,479 changed it. This is due to policy, the DEI policy, 57 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,280 the lowering of standards for the FAA and the air 58 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:48,639 traffic controllers. And I wrote, as he's saying this, I wrote, why, 59 00:03:48,919 --> 00:03:54,520 question mark, because they are blaming Trump. That's why he's 60 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,280 saying this, Because they were blaming Donald Trump. And if 61 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:01,400 you want to blame policy and personnel, and if that's 62 00:04:01,639 --> 00:04:03,879 if that's where you want to go with this, then 63 00:04:04,039 --> 00:04:09,000 what Donald Trump said with Barack Obama was correct. This 64 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,080 is from June third, twenty fifteen, so before Trump comes in, 65 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:17,879 right before Obama is out, like a year, year and 66 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,079 a half before Obama's term is ending. Wall Street Journal headline, 67 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,519 Affirmative action lands in the air traffic control tower. The 68 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,279 Obama administration forces the Federal Aviation Administration to move away 69 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,560 from merit based hiring criteria. Now, is that the reason 70 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:40,360 for the crash? We don't know. I don't know. Nobody 71 00:04:40,399 --> 00:04:43,680 does at this point. And that's what I am urging 72 00:04:43,879 --> 00:04:48,360 people is to be People need to be cautious, go slowly. 73 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:54,040 But I understand pushing back against the immediate race to 74 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,879 set a narrative and then have it calcify in the 75 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,720 public opinion. And that's what the left is very very 76 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,000 good at because they control the institutions of the media. Right, 77 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,800 they tell a story, and stories are very powerful things, 78 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:12,480 and you tell a story enough times, people then think 79 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:17,360 it's true. And Eric Erickson I mentioned the host down 80 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:21,000 in Atlanta. He summed it up about ten minutes ago 81 00:05:21,560 --> 00:05:24,879 on Twitter, and I think this is exactly correct, he 82 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:29,680 said reporters last night rushed to blame the plane crash 83 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,279 on Donald Trump. Today, Donald Trump pushed back, and the 84 00:05:34,319 --> 00:05:38,040 same reporters blaming him last night are now upset at 85 00:05:38,079 --> 00:05:46,439 him for politicizing the tragedy. That's what's occurring here. It's 86 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,800 the same thing. It's do you like, do we not 87 00:05:49,959 --> 00:05:53,199 remember from four years ago, right or eight years ago 88 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:55,639 when Trump first got in he was running his campaign 89 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,199 on it. This is the same play over and over 90 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:05,439 and over again. And Donald Trump responds, he comes out 91 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:08,959 and he responds, and like, you can disagree with the 92 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,040 way he did it. I'm not a fan of the 93 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:12,800 way he did it. I think he could have done 94 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,279 it better. But what do I know. I'm not president, 95 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:20,639 I haven't won, you know, the presidency. I'm so if 96 00:06:20,639 --> 00:06:23,279 that's what people want, then you know, then they're getting it. 97 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:28,560 This was part of the package. So but I but 98 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:31,439 I recognize what it is that he's doing and why 99 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:34,879 he's doing it. And so now they're going to accuse 100 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,199 him of politicizing it when they were the ones who 101 00:06:37,319 --> 00:06:40,879 actually politicized in the first place. Let me go to 102 00:06:40,959 --> 00:06:43,279 the phone lines here and get oh, I had Marcus, 103 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:46,360 but okay, Marcus dropped off. Here's Tom, Welcome to the show. 104 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,959 Speaker 2: Hello Tom, Hey, how you doing, Pete. First of all, 105 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,000 I want to say condolences to the families, all of them, 106 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,399 and it was a terrible tragedy. But I want to 107 00:06:56,439 --> 00:07:00,240 say sometimes, and please don't take this the wrong way. 108 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,759 It seems like you're trying to defend the indefensible. And 109 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,959 like you said, I agree with you on this. He 110 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:10,720 should have done it a different way. And my third 111 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:14,560 thing is he should have waited until the experts get 112 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:19,199 the report together. This stuff is not politics when you 113 00:07:19,279 --> 00:07:23,360 dealing with death. It's not Republican, independent, or whatever. Death 114 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:27,240 is death. So I think that Trump needs to get 115 00:07:27,279 --> 00:07:30,079 people that are not sick of fans. And that's a 116 00:07:30,079 --> 00:07:32,560 big word that your readers, they probably know what it is. 117 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,519 The King has surrounded himself with a bunch of sycophants, 118 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,000 and what we need in America is just plain objective. 119 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:40,399 Speaker 3: True. 120 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,879 Speaker 1: Okay, So a couple of things, Tom, let me I'll 121 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:44,639 stop you right there. I know what sick of fans are, 122 00:07:45,079 --> 00:07:47,399 but I would also submit that every administration packs their 123 00:07:47,439 --> 00:07:50,360 administration with sick offense. That's kind of the deal. But 124 00:07:50,439 --> 00:07:52,600 the first thing is that you say, I'm I'm kind 125 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,079 of defending the indefensible. 126 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,439 Speaker 2: So I don't want to defend the indispensable. I feel 127 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,519 like you do that. But you did say he did 128 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:01,759 it different You could have done it differently. I'll give 129 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:02,560 you that now you. 130 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, because I was going to ask you, so what 131 00:08:04,759 --> 00:08:08,639 is the what is the indefensible? And how did I 132 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:09,199 defend it? 133 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad well you didn't defend it. The indepensible is this. 134 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,160 This stuff has nothing to do with di He doesn't 135 00:08:16,199 --> 00:08:21,040 need to keep blaming Bush or Biden, any Obama, nobody. 136 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,160 He just needs to take charge, unite the country for 137 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:27,759 the good, send condolences to the families, and cut this 138 00:08:27,879 --> 00:08:30,920 bull crap out, as he said, because he's not gonna 139 00:08:30,959 --> 00:08:31,439 make it like that. 140 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,399 Speaker 1: So all right, so let me so then let me 141 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:35,480 ask a follow up here and I have about like 142 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:37,960 a minute with you, but before the break, so let 143 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,399 me ask this then, So, when the media establishment is 144 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,440 blaming him for the crash, what is the appropriate response 145 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,440 that you would have preferred he take to combat that narrative? 146 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 2: The appropriate response response is to give condolences to the family. Uh, 147 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,039 if they We're going to wait for the experts to 148 00:08:57,080 --> 00:09:00,600 come out with the report and to hell with the press, 149 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,159 public opinion, the voters have spoken. He don't need to 150 00:09:04,159 --> 00:09:07,039 worry about the press. The people have spoken. He just 151 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:09,440 needs to conduct himself more presidential. 152 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: So okay. So, so Tom would have preferred that Trump 153 00:09:13,639 --> 00:09:20,639 not address the accusations, and that is in marketing, that 154 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:26,559 is in branding and pr That is one approach. The 155 00:09:26,639 --> 00:09:30,679 other approach is to not let unfounded false accusations stand 156 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,720 because when you don't respond, then people believe they are true. 157 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:41,679 And I am generally of that school. I am generally 158 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:46,200 of that approach. That somebody makes an accusation that's false, 159 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,879 I respond, that's false. Here's why. Now again, Donald Trump 160 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,120 does it his way, and it has worked for him 161 00:09:55,159 --> 00:09:58,279 so far low these many years is what you know, 162 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,399 seventy eight years or or whatever it is. And because 163 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,720 he's gotten to be president, he's won three Republican nominations, 164 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:13,000 he's won the office, so obviously all indications are that 165 00:10:13,039 --> 00:10:16,360 this approach is working. So he's taken a different tact, 166 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:19,919 And I know Tom would prefer a different approach. 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Now, there will be an interim report that 196 00:11:53,639 --> 00:11:56,399 comes out. I think within thirty days they'll give some 197 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,759 sort of an assessment, but the final reports, the final 198 00:11:59,759 --> 00:12:02,360 invent instigation, it takes years for them to do it. 199 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:06,279 And he meant. Trump mentioned that, and so coming out 200 00:12:06,279 --> 00:12:08,519 now and saying, you know, this is what we know, 201 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,919 and it looks like he's got questions too, and he's 202 00:12:10,919 --> 00:12:14,879 saying it looks like that it was the helicopter that 203 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:17,519 didn't do something right. But like I played in the 204 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:21,080 first hour, whenever you have these types of crashes, there's 205 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:25,799 usually a bunch of different reasons that all converge at 206 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,360 one point in time at a certain place, and multiple 207 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:35,159 failures compound, and so that's the that's sort of the 208 00:12:35,279 --> 00:12:41,759 general thing that occurs in these types of accidents, but 209 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,159 we don't know at this point. We're speculating. Let me 210 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,440 get to Marcus here. Hello, Marcus, welcome to the show. 211 00:12:48,279 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 4: Oh, great show. We appreciate ch'alla as usual. You're doing 212 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,159 a great job and you're hitting the nail on the hill. 213 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,879 Most thinks you're missing one little ingredient, and that is 214 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:01,480 you know, we we on the right have been taken 215 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:06,799 with chin since both bushes and uh, you know that 216 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,200 they come out like Maxine Water did at time and 217 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:11,639 was run people off the restaurants and some to run 218 00:13:11,639 --> 00:13:14,000 people when they see something on the right, m away 219 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:15,879 from the gas stations and stuff like that. And that 220 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,360 was actually happening in d C. And everything they're showing 221 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,399 on TV and whatnot, and uh, you know, in longcome 222 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,559 Trump And this is why he's so popular, This is 223 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,600 why he draws giant crowds. Is he's actually fighting back 224 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,519 for us, and and and and and you know we've 225 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:34,600 been we've been uh, they've been talked down too, and 226 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:36,200 and then then they've been calling us to all sorts 227 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,799 of vile names and whatnot and and outlaw and stuff 228 00:13:39,799 --> 00:13:42,240 that we say and outlaw and uh this or that 229 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:45,440 and saying that not polutely correct and all that stuff, 230 00:13:45,639 --> 00:13:48,279 and then he fights back and that's why he's the popular. 231 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:49,919 I mean, I hear people talk about they don't like 232 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,200 his mouth or whatnot, and but they're gonna vote for 233 00:13:52,279 --> 00:13:54,919 him and stuff like that. But still most people that 234 00:13:55,519 --> 00:13:58,000 they show up in giant crowds. I've never been to 235 00:13:58,080 --> 00:13:59,799 one like that, but they, you know, sit on TV. 236 00:13:59,879 --> 00:14:02,519 And that's why he supplied for because he runs his 237 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,480 mouth and it's it's you know, and un lot of 238 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,320 people don't like it. But I think, you know, finally 239 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:09,480 somebody is fighting back forces because we can't go on 240 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:11,360 or TIV and tell them, you know, that they're crazy 241 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,279 and stuff like that. But he does, and he calls 242 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,879 him out and you just huge common sense and most 243 00:14:15,879 --> 00:14:18,120 of the time what he says is right. So it's 244 00:14:18,159 --> 00:14:20,879 been interesting to watch. But you know, that's the reason 245 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,639 we have somebody to fight back Ford and to say 246 00:14:23,679 --> 00:14:26,039 stuff that people have been bad mouth in US for 247 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:27,919 a long time. So I think it's one of the 248 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:29,360 ways he called the big crayons. 249 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,159 Speaker 1: I would agree. It's the thing that I heard from 250 00:14:32,159 --> 00:14:34,919 twenty fifteen, which is he fights and that was the 251 00:14:35,759 --> 00:14:38,360 grand summation of all things strump. It was just that 252 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,399 he fights, and it didn't even matter what he was 253 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:43,919 fighting for. It really didn't. Over the years, like people 254 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,240 will change, and there's enough examples of this, I don't 255 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,120 need to run through it. But he will flip flop 256 00:14:48,159 --> 00:14:50,600 back and forth, and people that just want somebody to 257 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:54,120 fight for them, they don't care. It does not matter 258 00:14:54,279 --> 00:14:56,799 if he flips, It does not matter if he cusses, 259 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,000 it doesn't matter if he's wrong. None of that matters. 260 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:01,320 They just want some nobody that's going to defend them. 261 00:15:01,519 --> 00:15:04,399 And look, I understand the inclination. I get it. I 262 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,919 don't think it's healthy, but you know I lost that 263 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:09,159 argument eight years ago. 264 00:15:11,039 --> 00:15:13,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, well it's not hard to do like that. 265 00:15:13,399 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so Marcus, I appreciate the call, sir. Let me 266 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,960 jump over and get Angela on before the news. Hello Angela, Hey, Pete. 267 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 5: Hey, I really appreciate your detailed perspective. It's calmed me down. 268 00:15:25,399 --> 00:15:28,440 It's made me think about two sides to this. It's 269 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,080 made me think in my heart that why would a 270 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,000 passenger plane immediately descend on impact from a helicopter if 271 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,120 it wasn't on auto palette, and I believe that they 272 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,799 already know what happened. Anybody that can hear the radios 273 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,279 know what was said. And Trump even said that there 274 00:15:44,399 --> 00:15:46,639 was a call right at impact and it was too 275 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:48,600 late in that press conference. 276 00:15:48,759 --> 00:15:49,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard it so. 277 00:15:49,679 --> 00:15:52,279 Speaker 5: And I think that it's just the FCC's job to 278 00:15:52,320 --> 00:16:01,480 protect there the faith that the public before they're ready 279 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:03,559 to tell everything. I mean, I was on the first 280 00:16:03,559 --> 00:16:07,080 international flight after nine to eleven and my fiance was 281 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:09,960 making a will out until eleven pm the night before. 282 00:16:10,039 --> 00:16:12,679 He was scared. I was praying, and you know, we 283 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,440 had a safe trip and everybody was really gracious in 284 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:18,759 London and Paris and places. But bottom line, people are 285 00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:20,200 scared sometimes when they fly. 286 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, no, I get it. I totally understand that. 287 00:16:26,039 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 5: But there was I just have to thank you because 288 00:16:29,279 --> 00:16:32,759 sometimes I feel like I just always hear one perspective 289 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,759 and you just really kind of you just you had 290 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,279 away earlier, you know, within the last half hour of 291 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,559 just making me calmed down. 292 00:16:42,759 --> 00:16:45,039 Speaker 1: Well, and I don't know, I'm glad I could do 293 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:46,799 that for you now. I'm glad I could do that 294 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,960 for you. That's what I strive to do. That to 295 00:16:49,039 --> 00:16:50,960 calm people's passions. 296 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,639 Speaker 5: I mean, I understand that sometimes people will fuel things 297 00:16:54,759 --> 00:16:58,720 just to get conversation. Or maybe that's not the right word. 298 00:16:58,919 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: No, that's true. 299 00:17:00,399 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 5: I really appreciate you. 300 00:17:01,559 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Thanks Angela. No, there are people 301 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:06,640 that just like stirring the pot, and that is a 302 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,359 business model for some people. It is not mine. And 303 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,680 maybe that's why people are like, oh, when are you 304 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:14,759 gonna go national or whatever. I don't think I can, 305 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:19,640 because I like, sometimes I see too many angles for 306 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,319 a lot of people, you know, they don't like the 307 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,279 fact that I try to see these things from all 308 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:29,920 of these different angles. And I recognize that sometimes, you know, 309 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,880 the truth lies somewhere in the middle between all of 310 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,720 these different arguments, and I don't have to choose. I like, 311 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:40,920 I reject, I fundamentally reject the false dichotomy that it's 312 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,839 either this or that. And I'm not saying that's happening 313 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,279 right now, but you know, it's either this or that, 314 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,039 like you're either with me or you're evil and you're 315 00:17:48,039 --> 00:17:52,400 a Nazi, Like okay, Like there are some reasonable disagreements 316 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,359 here in different things to assess, and all I urge 317 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400 in all of these instances is to wait and see 318 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:03,799 what's some men information when some information gets presented, and 319 00:18:03,839 --> 00:18:05,599 so then we can learn. Because if you adopt a 320 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,839 position early on after anything like this, it becomes much 321 00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:11,920 harder for you than to assess new information when it 322 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,720 comes in because you've become wedded to a particular viewpoint. 323 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,880 All right, I hope you had a happy holiday season. 324 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,480 But tell me if something like this happened at your house. 325 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:24,359 Your family and friends are gathered around, Maybe y'all are 326 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,920 in the living room, You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and 327 00:18:27,960 --> 00:18:31,799 then somebody says, hey, Dad, remember those old VHS tapes? 328 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:34,480 Did you ever get them transferred? And then the room 329 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,319 gets all quiet. 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And next year, instead of 339 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,400 talking about those memories, imagine gathering the family to watch 340 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,680 them together, talk about a memorable gift. So do what 341 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,119 I did. Trust the experts at creat a Video, conveniently 342 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,559 located in mint Hill right off I four eighty five 343 00:19:18,799 --> 00:19:22,880 and online at create avideo dot com. As I mentioned 344 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,200 in the last hour, this is not the first crash 345 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:31,160 of a commercial airliner into the Potomac. There was another 346 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:37,000 one January thirteenth, nineteen eighty two, and I think it 347 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,519 actually had to do with like the de icing issues, 348 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,880 bad weather and that sort of thing. Now, that was 349 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:52,079 eighty two. Ronald Reagan was president. A decade later, Ronald 350 00:19:52,079 --> 00:19:57,000 Reagan went and spoke at the commencement to dress for 351 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:02,160 the graduating class of the Citadel in Charleston, and he 352 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:08,440 talked about this plane crash. And I was actually there. 353 00:20:08,559 --> 00:20:12,039 My brother graduated from the Citadel nineteen ninety three. That's 354 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:17,319 when Reagan spoke, and he told this story in his address. 355 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 3: Yes, countless soldiers have distinguished themselves on fields of valor 356 00:20:23,759 --> 00:20:26,319 and are part of the century and a half tradition 357 00:20:27,039 --> 00:20:32,480 of duty and honor we celebrate today. But For me, 358 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:36,000 there is one name that will always come to mind 359 00:20:36,759 --> 00:20:40,039 whenever I think of the Citadel and the Corps of Cadets. 360 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,000 It is a name that appears in no military histories. 361 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,799 Its owner won no glory on the field of battle. No, 362 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,400 his moment of truth came not in combat, but on 363 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,359 a snow driven peacetime day in the nation's capital in 364 00:20:58,519 --> 00:21:03,640 January of nineteen eighty two. That is the day that 365 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,000 the civilian airliner on which he was a passenger, crashed 366 00:21:08,079 --> 00:21:11,759 into a Washington bridge and then plunged into the rough 367 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:16,079 waters of the ic Epotomac. He survived the impact of 368 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,359 the crash and found himself with a small group of 369 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:24,319 other survivors, struggling to stay afloat in the near frozen river. 370 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:29,240 And then suddenly there was hope. A park police helicopter 371 00:21:29,319 --> 00:21:33,359 appeared overhead, trailing a lifeline to the outstretched hands below, 372 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,319 a lifeline that could carry but a few of the 373 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:41,799 victims to the safety of the shore. News cameramen watched 374 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,759 helplessly recorded the scene as the man in the water 375 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:51,079 repeatedly handed the rope to the others, refusing to save 376 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:56,440 himself until the first one, then two, then three, and 377 00:21:56,599 --> 00:22:01,440 four and finally five of his fellow passengers had been rescued. 378 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,240 But when the helicopter returned for one final trip, the 379 00:22:06,279 --> 00:22:09,799 trip that would rescue the man who had passed the rope, 380 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:14,319 it was too late. He had slipped at last beneath 381 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:18,640 the waves with the sinking wreckage, the only one of 382 00:22:18,759 --> 00:22:23,839 seventy nine fatalities in the disaster who lost his life 383 00:22:24,079 --> 00:22:30,400 after the accident itself. For months thereafter we knew him 384 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,599 only as the unknown hero, and then an exhaustive Coast 385 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:41,759 Guard investigation conclusively established his identity. Many of you here 386 00:22:41,799 --> 00:22:44,839 today know his name as well as I do, for 387 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,720 his portrait now hangs with honor, as it indeed should 388 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,480 on this very campus, the campus where he once walked, 389 00:22:53,839 --> 00:22:57,519 as you have through the summer all Gate and along 390 00:22:57,559 --> 00:23:02,039 the Avenue of Remembrance. Was a young first classman with 391 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,680 a crisp uniform and a confident stride on a bright 392 00:23:05,759 --> 00:23:09,759 spring morning, full of hopes and plans for the future. 393 00:23:11,559 --> 00:23:15,279 He never dreamed that his life's supreme challenge would come 394 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,920 in its final moments some twenty five years later, adrift 395 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:23,640 in the bone chilling waters of the ice stream streamed 396 00:23:24,079 --> 00:23:29,400 river and surrounded by others who desperately needed help. But 397 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:33,880 when the challenge came, he was ready. His name was 398 00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:39,759 Arlen D. Williams Junior, the Citadel Class of nineteen fifty seven. 399 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,039 He brought honor to his alma mater and honor to 400 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:49,079 his nation. I was never more proud as President than 401 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,400 on that day in June nineteen eighty three, when his 402 00:23:52,559 --> 00:23:57,400 parents and his children joined me in the Oval Office. 403 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,640 For then I was able on behalf of the nation 404 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:06,240 to pay posthumous honor to him. Greater love, as the 405 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,440 Bible tells us, hath no man than to lay down 406 00:24:10,519 --> 00:24:14,880 his life for a friend. I have spoken of Ireland 407 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:18,400 Williams in part to honor him anew in your presence 408 00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:24,039 here at this special institution that helped mold his character. 409 00:24:25,559 --> 00:24:29,039 Here's the same institution that has now put its final 410 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,240 imprint on you, the graduating seniors of its one hundred 411 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:38,640 and fiftieth year. But I have also retold his story 412 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,240 because I believe it has something important to teach to 413 00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:48,160 you as graduates, about the challenges that life inevitably seemed 414 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,680 to present, and about what it is that prepares us 415 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,960 to meet them. Sometimes, you see, life gives us what 416 00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,880 we think is fair warning of the choices that will 417 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,599 shape our future. On such occasions, we are able to 418 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,039 look far along the path, up ahead, to that distant 419 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:13,680 point in the woods where the poet's two roads diverge, 420 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:17,519 and then, if we are wise, we will take time 421 00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:23,079 to think and reflect before choosing which road to take, 422 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,720 before the junction is reached in fact, But such occasions, 423 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:33,599 in fact are rather rare, far rarer, I suspect than 424 00:25:33,599 --> 00:25:37,680 the confident eyes of one's early twenties can quite perceive. 425 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Far more often than we can comfortably admit, the most 426 00:25:43,279 --> 00:25:47,680 crucial of life's moments come like the scriptural thief in 427 00:25:47,759 --> 00:25:52,880 the night, suddenly and without notice. The crisis is upon us, 428 00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,519 and the moment of choice is at hand, a moment 429 00:25:56,599 --> 00:26:02,359 fraught with import for ourselves and all who are depending 430 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,920 on the choice that we make. We find ourselves if 431 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,799 you will, plunged without warning into the icy water, where 432 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:16,319 the currents of moral consequence run swift and deep, and 433 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,359 where our fellow men and yes, I believe our maker 434 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,400 are waiting to see whether we will pass the rope. 435 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,799 These are the moments when instinct and character take command, 436 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,039 as they took command for Arland Williams on the day 437 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,200 our Lord would call him home. For there is no 438 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,000 time at such moments for anything but fortitude and integrity, 439 00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:49,359 debate and reflection, and a leisurely weighing of the alternatives. 440 00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:55,559 Our luxuries we do not have. The only question is 441 00:26:56,279 --> 00:27:00,920 what kind of responsibility will come to the fore And 442 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,599 now we come to the heart of the matter, to 443 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,440 the core less taught by the heroism of Arland Williams 444 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:14,200 on January thirteenth, nineteen eighty two. For you see, the 445 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:18,720 character that takes command in moments of crucial choices has 446 00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:23,759 already been determined. It has been determined by a thousand 447 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:29,200 other choices made earlier, in seemingly unimportant moments. It has 448 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,640 been determined by all the little choices of years past, 449 00:27:34,079 --> 00:27:38,200 by all those times when the voice of conscience was 450 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:44,279 at war with a voice of temptation, whispering the lie 451 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,759 that it really doesn't matter. It has been determined by 452 00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:52,880 all the day to day decisions made when life seemed 453 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,920 easy and crises seemed far away, the decisions that peace 454 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,559 by peace. Bit by bit, it developed habits of discipline 455 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:08,519 or of laziness, habits of self sacrifice or of self indulgence, 456 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,559 habits of duty and honor and integrity, or dishonor and shame. 457 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:19,359 Because when life does get tough and the crisis is 458 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:24,359 undeniably at hand, when we must in an instant look 459 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,960 inward for strength of character to see us through, we 460 00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:34,480 will find nothing inside ourselves that we have not already 461 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,240 put there. And you know, it turns out that much 462 00:28:38,319 --> 00:28:42,519 the same thing is also true for our country. 463 00:28:44,519 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: Stories are powerful things, and look for the helpers. All right, 464 00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,480 if you're listening to this show, you know I try 465 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,279 to keep up with all sorts of current events, and 466 00:28:55,319 --> 00:28:57,359 I know you do too, And you've probably heard me 467 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,599 say get your news from multiple sources. Why well, because 468 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,319 it's how you detect media bias, which is why I've 469 00:29:04,359 --> 00:29:07,680 been so impressed with ground News. It's an app and 470 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,799 it's a website and it combines news from around the 471 00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,480 world in one place so you can compare coverage and 472 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,440 verify information. You can check it out at check dot ground, 473 00:29:17,759 --> 00:29:20,799 dot news slash pete. I put the link in the 474 00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,039 podcast description too. I started using ground News a few 475 00:29:24,079 --> 00:29:26,799 months ago and more recently chose to work with them 476 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:29,599 as an affiliate because it lets me see clearly how 477 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,119 stories get covered and by whom. The blind spot feature 478 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,839 shows you which stories get ignored by the left and 479 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,920 the right. See for yourself. Check dot Ground dot news 480 00:29:40,279 --> 00:29:43,400 slash pete. Subscribe through that link and you'll get fifteen 481 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,519 percent off any subscription. I use the Vantage plan to 482 00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:50,000 get unlimited access to every feature. Your subscription then not 483 00:29:50,039 --> 00:29:53,000 only helps my podcast, but it also supports Ground News 484 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:56,799 as they make the media landscape more transparent. Okay, let 485 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,720 me head over and talk with Larry. Hello, Larry, Hey, 486 00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:01,200 how are you? 487 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:01,599 Speaker 4: Hey? 488 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm good. What's going on? 489 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 6: Well? I just I've been an aircraft mechanic all my life, 490 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:12,920 and that's forty seven years. I've been an aircraft mechanic 491 00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:17,279 and I actually work on Bombardier aircraft, which is the 492 00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:21,000 type this one was. And I hear people freaking out, 493 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,960 you know, first off arts and prayers to those that 494 00:30:24,079 --> 00:30:28,119 lost their lives. It shouldn't have happened. The safety systems 495 00:30:28,119 --> 00:30:32,839 and aircraft today almost always would preclude this type of event. 496 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,759 But there's a lot that could have happened here that 497 00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:40,359 will know soon. And I just want to encourage people 498 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640 not to be too freaked out about safety of aircraft. 499 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,440 Are extremely safe but you know, like with a military aircraft, 500 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,720 they could have had their transponder turned off. 501 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: They can do that, right, And if they were running 502 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:59,319 the kind of training mission, a continuity of government training, 503 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,519 which is like what happens if the president and the 504 00:31:02,559 --> 00:31:05,599 vice president are killed or something like, there has to 505 00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:07,880 be a continuity of government. If if that's the kind 506 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:09,880 of mission, this training that they were doing, then they 507 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,599 very I had seen reports that they had gone dark 508 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,640 as part of the training mission, and so if that 509 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:17,559 might have contributed. 510 00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 6: That's absolutely true, because anybody today can download an app 511 00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:29,079 to track aircraft, and I tracked my company's aircraft on 512 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:33,200 that particular app just so I know where they're at. 513 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,599 Not it's with commercial aircraft, they're always going to be 514 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,240 transponding or putting out a signal, whereas the military don't. 515 00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:45,680 If they were transponding, and I don't know either way 516 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,839 whether they were or not, but I agree they probably 517 00:31:47,839 --> 00:31:53,839 were dark and at that point the aircraft inbound, who 518 00:31:53,960 --> 00:32:00,400 was doing everything completely right, could not have detected them, right, 519 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,000 and so he could not have taken evasive action. 520 00:32:03,359 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: No, and the plane was yeah, apparently the plane was cleared, right. 521 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,839 They were the ones going in and there was, you know, 522 00:32:08,839 --> 00:32:12,599 the warning that went to the helicopter that said, you know, hey, 523 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,799 there's you know, there's another plane here. And what may 524 00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:19,200 have happened is that the chopper pilot looked and saw 525 00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:22,559 another plane that was taking off that and was like 526 00:32:22,599 --> 00:32:25,720 off to the right and saw that plane and thought 527 00:32:26,079 --> 00:32:29,240 that's the plane that they're talking about, not this other 528 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,480 one on a short approach. 529 00:32:32,599 --> 00:32:36,799 Speaker 6: And that's that RJ would have been at that point. 530 00:32:36,839 --> 00:32:38,960 I looked at the at the flight tracks, and that 531 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,920 RD would have been turning for the runway, which would 532 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,480 have put him right wing up and very. 533 00:32:45,319 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 4: Difficult for the helicopter pilot to see. 534 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,839 Speaker 6: And they were probably, as you said, distracted by the 535 00:32:52,079 --> 00:32:56,400 taking off airplane, not the landing one. And I don't 536 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,759 know what type of airplane was taking off, whether it 537 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:02,160 was an RJ two, But the bottom line is it 538 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:06,200 was it was simple human error. But we have to 539 00:33:06,319 --> 00:33:09,440 protect our military too when they're on a mission where 540 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,240 they're transponder needs to be off, because if I can 541 00:33:12,359 --> 00:33:15,680 download the app and track them, so can the bad guys. 542 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and you know these we are aware of 543 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,640 stories of military training exercises that go very bad, and 544 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,839 soldiers and airmen, marines, they lose their lives in those accidents, 545 00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:35,880 and then there are investigations and everything else. But these 546 00:33:36,599 --> 00:33:41,519 like this, this does happen, and it's an it seems 547 00:33:41,559 --> 00:33:45,319 like right now, but I have no idea just going 548 00:33:45,359 --> 00:33:48,000 by some of the details that I've seen. It does 549 00:33:48,279 --> 00:33:51,359 you know, it does appear that human error is the 550 00:33:51,359 --> 00:33:55,759 biggest factor here, But I don't know. Well, yeah, we'll 551 00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:56,480 wait and see. 552 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 6: I think we'll know that. But but at the end 553 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,920 of the day, you know, God bless our troops and 554 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,119 and you know, hearts and my heart's broken for the people. 555 00:34:06,599 --> 00:34:10,719 You know, that's very personal to me and everybody in 556 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,239 our industry. So you know, I really just you know, 557 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:18,400 pray for those folks that lost their lives, and including 558 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:19,840 the helicopter pilot. 559 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: Because yeah, I mean it's I. 560 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 6: Think that's what it's going to come down to. That 561 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,920 they were they they thought they were looking at the 562 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,440 right airplane. The controller did everything right. I heard some 563 00:34:30,559 --> 00:34:33,400 of the presidents this morning on your radio, and I 564 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,800 think there were some jump tos. And I love Trump, 565 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,639 but there's some jump tos there that he just not 566 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,199 the time in the place. 567 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, unless he's gotten some information that we don't 568 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,079 have yet. I'm sure he has, but like, oh yeah, 569 00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:51,000 but I don't know how anybody can can know exactly 570 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,400 what happened at this early stage. But they may he 571 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,519 may have a clearer sight line on that and and 572 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:01,079 you know, we'll find out. But yeah, it I would hope. 573 00:35:01,119 --> 00:35:05,519 So yeah, right now, it appears to be just an accident, 574 00:35:06,519 --> 00:35:08,760 So Larry, I appreciate the call, sir, Thank you very much. 575 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:14,199 It's one of those things, you know, just like when 576 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,840 people are looking at any kind of a tragedy mass 577 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,320 casualty event and people want to know, how did this happen? 578 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,280 And you know, it's one of the reasons why I 579 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,039 think a lot of conspiracy theories develop around these types 580 00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:32,880 of things is because people are more comforted by the 581 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,119 idea that somebody had to have done this on purpose, 582 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:41,559 rather than accept that mistakes and accidents and randomness happen. 583 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,400 That's a scary thing for a lot of people. I think, 584 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,000 all right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you 585 00:35:48,079 --> 00:35:50,079 so much for listening. I could not do the show 586 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:52,599 without your support and the support of the businesses that 587 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:55,800 advertise on the podcast, so if you'd like, please support 588 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,480 them too and tell them you heard it here. You 589 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,199 can also become a patron at my Patreon page or 590 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,840 go to dpetecalnarshow dot com. Again, thank you so much 591 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:07,440 for listening, and uh, don't break anything while I'm gone.