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Speaker 4: Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you
Speaker 4: all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO
Speaker 4: Chronicles podcast. Both our guests tonight are from Florida and
Speaker 4: the first is Sunny, and she'll be sharing some of
Speaker 4: her paranormal experiences she's had of the multiple haunted houses
Speaker 4: that she's lived in over the years, including the famous
Speaker 4: Penscola Lighthouse where her family stayed during the nineteen eighties,
Speaker 4: and also about her experiences of growing up Catholic and
Speaker 4: getting mixed up in the Satanic Church and eventually coming
Speaker 4: back to Christianity. And then we drop into Bart to
Speaker 4: hear some of the strange things that has happened to him,
Speaker 4: including the sighting of an apparition of a woman, strange
Speaker 4: disembodied voices, and unexplained objects in the sky that he
Speaker 4: witnessed with his cousin with a cool October night. Sunny
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Speaker 6: Now on with the show.
Speaker 4: Good evening, Sonny, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much. I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 4: It is wonderful to have you joined us today. Okay,
Speaker 4: you're calling from Florida.
Speaker 3: I am calling from the Panhandle of Florida. Very rich
Speaker 3: in history, very beautiful, best speeches. I'm sorry if I
Speaker 3: offend anybody, but we do have the best speeches, so.
Speaker 4: I hear great stuff. Okay, now you have some paranormal
Speaker 4: experiences you're going to share of us. Would you like
Speaker 4: to start at the beginning, please, ma'am.
Speaker 3: I would, and I'm going to start with actually something
Speaker 3: that has been documented on national TV, including the sci
Speaker 3: Fi channels taps very famous ghost hunting show on TV.
Speaker 3: They visited us. It's been documented before that in books
Speaker 3: and accounts, and that is the Pensacola, Florida Lighthouse. So
Speaker 3: full disclaimer, I do not remember the full story when
Speaker 3: we stayed there because we stayed there in December of
Speaker 3: eighty two. I was a year and a half old.
Speaker 3: But my family doesn't like to talk about it. But
Speaker 3: what I have cathered, you know, throughout the years, I
Speaker 3: will try and convey and then tell my experiences of
Speaker 3: going back there. So my family was moving Military Air Force.
Speaker 3: My dad had been stationed in Arizona and was being
Speaker 3: restationed to a Air Force base in England, and they
Speaker 3: had a week because my mother's family, of course was
Speaker 3: born and raised here. My dad's family had come here
Speaker 3: when he was a teenager in this area, and the
Speaker 3: military had offered my family a week to stay at
Speaker 3: the Pensacle Lighthouse. It's on nas and Ab Base and
Speaker 3: they had this opportunity to stay there for a week,
Speaker 3: visit with the family, and you know, have free places lift.
Speaker 3: It's a very beautiful lighthouse, two story house, huge lighthouse
Speaker 3: overlooking the bay. Gorgeous. So, you know, I had always
Speaker 3: heard the stories over the years, and then I would
Speaker 3: see different TV shows where people would talk about different
Speaker 3: experiences that would line up with what some of my
Speaker 3: older siblings and my parents would call me, such as
Speaker 3: a glowing ball coming down the first to second story stairway.
Speaker 3: We were supposed to stay there for a week, and
Speaker 3: I believe we stayed there for two nights. Yeah, the
Speaker 3: second night, I believe my two brothers and my older
Speaker 3: sister jumped up and ran screaming into the room my
Speaker 3: parents were staying in, which was the blood stained room
Speaker 3: where my parents were staying in, and there is a
Speaker 3: blood stain that they've never been able to get out,
Speaker 3: and that could have either been from the story's range
Speaker 3: from a lady who died after giving birth and child
Speaker 3: didn't make it and she didn't make it, and then
Speaker 3: there was another story about somebody possibly being murdered in
Speaker 3: that room. Our room was right next to that one,
Speaker 3: and they said that I was screaming my head off
Speaker 3: in the crib, and then after that my parents said, nope,
Speaker 3: we're out of here. That means they would have had
Speaker 3: stayed with one of their parents, which was not ideal
Speaker 3: for either or them. I said, I don't remember it,
Speaker 3: but I've gone back since twice, and both times i've
Speaker 3: been back doing the tour because they do guided tours,
Speaker 3: they do haunted tours on the basement stairs. I've had
Speaker 3: something break. First time was my shoe sandal strap broke,
Speaker 3: and it wasn't like it was an old pair of shoe,
Speaker 3: it was a very new pair of shoe. The next
Speaker 3: one was my one of my purse strats, had broken,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, obviously they don't want me going.
Speaker 3: There was something there, and I asked my dad a
Speaker 3: couple of days ago, I said, Dad, can you tell
Speaker 3: me any things? He's like, well, why don't you ESCA.
Speaker 3: It's like I said, my parents, my family, they don't
Speaker 3: want to talk for some reason. They are very hesitant
Speaker 3: to talk about it. And apparently on that same staircase,
Speaker 3: my dad had told me my mother had her hair
Speaker 3: pulled and also had a scratch on the back of
Speaker 3: the neck. And this lines up with stories that have
Speaker 3: been told that there is a male presence in the
Speaker 3: basement that likes to go after females for some reason.
Speaker 3: And I just thought it was strange that both times
Speaker 3: I went back there that two things on me had broken.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying I'm psychic or a median, but
Speaker 3: I feel stuffed. And I know if I have a
Speaker 3: very very heavy feeling, I know get out of there.
Speaker 3: And that was the feeling I very much got in there.
Speaker 3: I was like, Brian, I gotta go. So that was
Speaker 3: one of the stories I wanted to talk about. Another.
Speaker 3: When we were young, I always had this thing where
Speaker 3: I could see things that other people couldn't see, couldn't feel.
Speaker 3: I remembered stuff that I shouldn't have, like living in England,
Speaker 3: like the layout of the Jolly Roger, a pizza shop
Speaker 3: where my mom worked, or the sweet shop where my
Speaker 3: parents would take us, and always having, you know, just
Speaker 3: these weird kind of fears that I shouldn't have had.
Speaker 3: My parents always thought were weird too. One in England
Speaker 3: was the manor House in Newberry and the White Lady,
Speaker 3: and my older siblings of course, who are always trying
Speaker 3: to get me to do really crazy stuff as a
Speaker 3: young child, got me out at night and we went
Speaker 3: and were spying on the manor House in Newberry, and
Speaker 3: I could just swear I saw the White Lady, but
Speaker 3: again I was very young. I may have or may
Speaker 3: have been enfluenced by that, but that was an interesting,
Speaker 3: very so. Another one I was about to talk about
Speaker 3: was our house, another house in Pensacola, and my parents
Speaker 3: were more divorced, my mother was staying at It happened
Speaker 3: to be one for cousin's house and she was rented
Speaker 3: it to my mother, And I always remembered this feeling
Speaker 3: of just heaviness and I didn't want to be alone
Speaker 3: and so in the kitchen there was one counter and
Speaker 3: it had the cabinets above and a tile countertop below.
Speaker 3: Had hooks on the top cabinet where you could hang
Speaker 3: up your mugs, your coffee, your teacups. And every time
Speaker 3: we would try to either hang something like a coffee
Speaker 3: cup or a mug up on one of these things,
Speaker 3: it would end up falling. And every time we'd put
Speaker 3: something on the tile countertop, it would slide off and fall.
Speaker 3: I remember my stepfather, was my mom's boyfriend at time,
Speaker 3: leveled it off, and I remember just being afraid to
Speaker 3: be alone in that house. It was terrifying. Later on
Speaker 3: living in Maine actually, which is one of the creepiest
Speaker 3: places you ever lived, mean, was in bar Harbor, me.
Speaker 3: I remember asking my mom, I said, Mom, have you
Speaker 3: ever lived in haunted house? And I was like eight
Speaker 3: years old time, and she was like, uh, yes, Waittie,
Speaker 3: And I said, was it this one house? She said absolutely,
Speaker 3: And I was like, why didn't she tell me I
Speaker 3: was always afraid in that house? She's like, because I
Speaker 3: didn't want scary. God bless my mother. She was a
Speaker 3: wonderful woman, you know. And I've had different little experiences
Speaker 3: from time from living in Maine, Chicago, California. But another
Speaker 3: thing I want to talk about is and this is
Speaker 3: something you know a lot of people like to say
Speaker 3: the Christian and they believe in Jesus and God, but
Speaker 3: when they say they don't believe in the devil and Satan.
Speaker 3: I've had my experiences with that. I was born very
Speaker 3: much cradle Catholic. My parents were my family's Catholic, So
Speaker 3: you know, I went through the motions and all the
Speaker 3: mass stuff, and you know, I did that for a
Speaker 3: very long time. And in California, in Morgan Hill, I
Speaker 3: had lost my faith. A lot of bad stuff happened
Speaker 3: to sexual abuse, physical abuse, mental abuse, and I had
Speaker 3: very much lost my faith. And you know, I did
Speaker 3: all the questions, Oh, well, if there's a God, why
Speaker 3: is he letting all this bad stuff happen? Where is he?
Speaker 3: You know? Why me? So I was asking a lot
Speaker 3: of wrong questions and I lost my faith. So let me.
Speaker 3: I turned to being I guess, kind of atheistic, but
Speaker 3: I still I still wanted to have that belief in something.
Speaker 3: And that's when I was introduced to Anton LeVay. And
Speaker 3: if anybody knows who he is, easily or the Satanic Church.
Speaker 3: I started reading his stuff. I read The Black Bible
Speaker 3: and other of his books, and a lot of people say, well, well,
Speaker 3: Anton LaVey, he was more of an atheist, and that's
Speaker 3: not really true. And going to San Francisco and Satanic Church,
Speaker 3: I can tell you that's not really true. So I
Speaker 3: had got in some trouble in California. My mother sent
Speaker 3: me to live with my dad back here in Florida,
Speaker 3: and you know, I got into a certain crowd of
Speaker 3: like minded people and one of those people was a
Speaker 3: teenage boyfriend. He said, well, let's get you a spirit guide.
Speaker 3: And as a Native America, I'm like, cool, yeah, spirit guide, Yes,
Speaker 3: he'd one. So I did the out of body experience,
Speaker 3: saw the silver Line, and I thought I came back
Speaker 3: with a spirit guide. Things started happening for me like
Speaker 3: that I would just want it would happen. And there's
Speaker 3: one specific This is in high school last my freshman year,
Speaker 3: and you know, I was dressing very goth, which I'm
Speaker 3: not saying is involved that, but you know it was
Speaker 3: nineties and I was dressing early goth, wearing upside down crosses,
Speaker 3: wearing you know, the fanet symbol, and this girl I
Speaker 3: remember she was a class spand of mine. She came
Speaker 3: up to me and she started preaching to me, and
Speaker 3: then she whipped out her cross at a metal cross
Speaker 3: that was on her necklace and pointed it to me.
Speaker 3: And I was looking at the same right, right right,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it snapped in half. And
Speaker 3: I had two other people that were you know, friends
Speaker 3: with the see it and they were they were laughing,
Speaker 3: and then I started laughing this poor girl she ran off.
Speaker 3: So yeah, like I said, all of stuff that I
Speaker 3: was wanting to happen was happening, and I thought it
Speaker 3: was a spirit guide. And my not my oldest brother,
Speaker 3: my second older brother who was living in Virginia, who
Speaker 3: was in the navy. He was part of my coven.
Speaker 3: He was waking. He you know, had no idea. He
Speaker 3: called up my dad and he said, Dad, what is
Speaker 3: this black cloud hanging around the house. And my dad,
Speaker 3: who is old daty of Americans, like you sense it too,
Speaker 3: and he goes yeah, and my brother goes, it's hanging
Speaker 3: around sonny, and my dad goes yeah. So at that point,
Speaker 3: my dad, did you know, started doing prayers and my
Speaker 3: brother with his cousin started doing scrying and called back
Speaker 3: my dad. He said, Dad, that's the son of ghost.
Speaker 3: That's demon. And my dad said, I think you're right,
Speaker 3: and he said, Dad, let her have what she wants
Speaker 3: until it's ready to take her. And so my dad,
Speaker 3: you know, got together with our local priests started doing me.
Speaker 3: Because I wasn't possessed at that point, I just had
Speaker 3: this demon hanging around me again, thinking it was a
Speaker 3: just spirit guide. And my brother's covin were doing rituals
Speaker 3: to banish this thing, and finally they did. And after that,
Speaker 3: you know, I noticed that now everything I could do
Speaker 3: I couldn't do. When we finally talked about it and
Speaker 3: he banished my spirit guid and they're like, no, we
Speaker 3: banished a demon. My brother and my father explained it
Speaker 3: to me. Oh my god, he's saying, I had as
Speaker 3: somebody who looked who you know, read Aunt Holloway, going,
Speaker 3: oh my god, so very crazy. Like I said, I
Speaker 3: know I'm crazy, but I'm not that kind of crazy.
Speaker 3: I questioned my son all the time, I didn't have witnesses. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've had different experiences with talking random spirits. I've since
Speaker 3: learned how to block it out. In my late twenties
Speaker 3: early thirties, because I just I couldn't take it anymore.
Speaker 3: That's how I knew I couldn't really be atheist. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I know there's something else, you know. I did have
Speaker 3: my moment. It was one of just a dark moment
Speaker 3: in my life that I just found myself in my
Speaker 3: garage of where I was living, crying and I felt
Speaker 3: the greatest love and I knew it was God that
Speaker 3: came and wrapped his songs around me and said I
Speaker 3: still got you. You didn't sell your soul. Your soul
Speaker 3: belongs to me. It always had and I've been so
Speaker 3: grateful ever since. You know, I say I'm a Catholic
Speaker 3: for community, but yes I am a Christian and I
Speaker 3: do try and reach out to people who say that
Speaker 3: or Christians said, well, yeah, I believe in God ches,
Speaker 3: but I don't believe in the devil. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: you need to, so okay. So another one was living
Speaker 3: here in the Panhandle area, me and us in high school.
Speaker 3: My sophomore year of high school, me and a group
Speaker 3: of my close friends that lived in the area. We
Speaker 3: were going to be like the Craft. We started in
Speaker 3: Covin and we had a field that was behind a
Speaker 3: couple of houses. That's a huge feel with one large,
Speaker 3: big tree. Un that's where we'd go and do our
Speaker 3: little ceremonies. And it's actually a miracle because one of
Speaker 3: the girls had picked snake to be her animal imagery.
Speaker 3: And one day, walking back after going to a local
Speaker 3: convenience store, we saw some little baby snakes and around
Speaker 3: and I taught one of them in a bag. Thankfully
Speaker 3: I didn't get big because when I brought it home,
Speaker 3: my dad looked at me and goes, that's copperhead. If
Speaker 3: that would have bit, you could have been dead before
Speaker 3: you got here. So yeah, we did all that. And
Speaker 3: there was a cemetery extremely close to where we lived,
Speaker 3: like lake down the street, and so a few of
Speaker 3: us decided to go and check it out do our
Speaker 3: little you know things. And as a Native American, and
Speaker 3: there's something my dad taught me as a Native American,
Speaker 3: if you're not invited to an cemetery, do not go
Speaker 3: into them. You will be followed. And we got followed.
Speaker 3: My parents were still at work, my little brothers were
Speaker 3: still with their grandparents, and I was home alone. After
Speaker 3: we've been to the cemetery, and I went and got
Speaker 3: a shower. I had it on I think it was
Speaker 3: TV at the time, and they went and got a shower,
Speaker 3: came back out, and the TV was saying, three stations down,
Speaker 3: that's weird. And then all of a sudden, I heard
Speaker 3: a knock, not at the front door, not at the window,
Speaker 3: not at the back door, but at the door leading
Speaker 3: to the garage. There's nobody. It was three big bangs,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I almost started crying at that point.
Speaker 3: And then the light started flickering, and then I started
Speaker 3: hearing bangings everywhere in the house, and I just I
Speaker 3: crouched under a desk of the computer desk and just
Speaker 3: stayed there, just crying until finally my stepmother came home
Speaker 3: and I was hysterical, and she goes, what's wrong. What's wrong?
Speaker 3: I said, there's something there, There's something there, and she goes,
Speaker 3: did you bring home? I said, I don't know. And
Speaker 3: I later talked to my friends and they also had
Speaker 3: different experience. One they saw me outside their house calling
Speaker 3: to me. I was like, I definitely wasn't there. I
Speaker 3: was hiding under her desk at that point. And another
Speaker 3: one she had almost the same experience with knockings and
Speaker 3: even her little sister had heard it, and after that
Speaker 3: we stayed away from that cemetery. Like I said, I've
Speaker 3: had multiple experience talking to random deceased individuals. Another one
Speaker 3: was when my dad's father died. My dad's father had
Speaker 3: abused me and my sister as children, so you know,
Speaker 3: and I considered him when I was a child my
Speaker 3: best friend. I trust him above anybody else, and I
Speaker 3: kept the secret of my abuse, thinking if it only
Speaker 3: happened to me, it's fine, I can handle it. When
Speaker 3: I found out it also happened to my older sister,
Speaker 3: I had to say so he came out and he
Speaker 3: didn't eventually admit that he did it, and we hadn't
Speaker 3: seen him for years and years. I hadn't seen him
Speaker 3: for a very long time and had to be when
Speaker 3: I was trying to think how old I was late twenties,
Speaker 3: early thirties. My dad had called me on his birthday,
Speaker 3: my dad's birthday, and said my father's passed away. And
Speaker 3: I had a good freak out that night because I
Speaker 3: didn't know how I would do. But also that night,
Speaker 3: sleeping next to my husband, I was my nose got
Speaker 3: filled with a smell I had smelled and forever it
Speaker 3: was colone he used to wear.
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 3: It was one of those kind of weird, kind of
Speaker 3: seventies her late seventies, early eighties, weird looking helone bottles
Speaker 3: and it's a clown he always wore. And then I
Speaker 3: felt a hand on my head, on the side of
Speaker 3: my head, I was laying on the other side, and
Speaker 3: I heard his voice and I heard him say, be
Speaker 3: these things. She's forgiven me. B was my grandmother's nickname.
Speaker 3: And then I heard her voice and I said, I
Speaker 3: know she has because I had forgiven him. That didn't
Speaker 3: mean I forgot it. I had forgiven him. And even
Speaker 3: after his funeral, which my husband reluctantly went with me too,
Speaker 3: we went to the beach afterwards and I started crying
Speaker 3: and laughing, and my husband came up to me and said,
Speaker 3: what's going on. I said, say, stupid wallaby story he
Speaker 3: told me from when he was in the Korean War
Speaker 3: and he got surprised and lost his son from a
Speaker 3: wallaby and he's like, I'm I think we're good now.
Speaker 3: And ever since then, you know, I've definitely had.
Speaker 2: My real, real truth forgetness of it.
Speaker 3: So those a couple of stories I wanted to share
Speaker 3: with you.
Speaker 4: That's wonderful, Sonny. So you've pretty much gone full circle now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely have. It's you know, it's it's about
Speaker 3: growing and learning and experiences.
Speaker 4: So you started off cradle Catholic and you took a
Speaker 4: bit of a detour and went a big detour, that
Speaker 4: big detour in fact. Yeah, and you got involved in
Speaker 4: the Satanic church and things of that nature. And you've
Speaker 4: now come back around now.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, because you know, when I've seen God's
Speaker 3: miracles and work. My mother she was a bless her soul.
Speaker 3: She was the biggest prayer warrior. It took cancer three
Speaker 3: times to kill her and she never smoked a day
Speaker 3: in her life. She I blamed her for my second
Speaker 3: son because she was praying for more grandchildren and what not.
Speaker 3: Me and my little sister's like having done. And then
Speaker 3: she prayed a little too wide because both me and
Speaker 3: my little sister got bring it the power of prayer.
Speaker 3: She was definitely a prayer warrior, and she's come to
Speaker 3: me in dreams. The other night, I had dreaming role
Speaker 3: on the and with tropical vacation and then she was
Speaker 3: leaving I'm like, hold on, mom, wait, wait, wait, we're
Speaker 3: coming with you. She goes, No, you can't he know
Speaker 3: where I'm going yet.
Speaker 4: It's quite often that you see that people which have
Speaker 4: suffered childhood trauma, they end up getting involved in the
Speaker 4: wrong crowd and going down this dark route. You know,
Speaker 4: you do see it with the younger generations. I mean,
Speaker 4: I've known people, I've I've got mixed up in your
Speaker 4: curt myself. But you see people time where they're kind
Speaker 4: of influenced by so many different factors. What advice would
Speaker 4: you give anyone that are of those kind of years
Speaker 4: and they've show an interest in things of a dark nature.
Speaker 3: Like I said, you know, people want to say, yeah,
Speaker 3: I believe there's God and there's Jesus, and I don't
Speaker 3: believe in the devil. There's I mean, Lucifer the morning Star,
Speaker 3: you know, the perfect love who turned away from God.
Speaker 3: And you don't think he's trying to deceive. And he
Speaker 3: doesn't come as some monstrous figure. He comes as a friend.
Speaker 3: I'm going to help you. I'm going to I understand you.
Speaker 3: You've been hurt. I've been hurt too. I know that feeling.
Speaker 3: And he's going to deceive you, because what is Lucifer
Speaker 3: the great deceiver? Right? So my advice and you know,
Speaker 3: I know it's hard, but instead of asking the wrong
Speaker 3: questions of why is this happening me? Why does God
Speaker 3: let this bad stuff? Start asking the right questions of
Speaker 3: how did God protect me in this? How was He
Speaker 3: still holding me that I'm still here? Because you can
Speaker 3: get in a very very dark place, and I've been there.
Speaker 3: I've been the one in the claw with a kind
Speaker 3: against my head. I've been the one that was about
Speaker 3: to take a whole bottle of hills but I didn't.
Speaker 3: And if when you embrace that higher spirit and you
Speaker 3: let sort of as the greatest thing and you just
Speaker 3: and like I said, I know there were ghosts. I've
Speaker 3: seen them. So how am I going to say, oh,
Speaker 3: there's there's no other side. I would just suggest to
Speaker 3: people you get away from negative people. That's a big
Speaker 3: one that generally the.
Speaker 4: Ones that end up bringing you into it. I mean
Speaker 4: what I say to people, I mean, I'm not really
Speaker 4: a religious space show. People have all different opinions, but
Speaker 4: what I always say to people is even if you
Speaker 4: don't believe, always remember that there are people.
Speaker 3: Which do and like I said, I knew I couldn't
Speaker 3: be a full on atheist because I've seen spirits and stuff.
Speaker 3: If you have faith in anything, be it a ham
Speaker 3: and cheese sandwich, have faith in something. Because I'm very
Speaker 3: tolerant of all religions. I have friends who are Jewish, Muslim, Wiccan.
Speaker 3: That's not the point, you know, My point is not.
Speaker 3: You know, I can tell them what I think and say, hey,
Speaker 3: here's what I know. You take it a leave, that's
Speaker 3: up to you, and I still love you. And love
Speaker 3: is a great thing and that's something we need to
Speaker 3: show more of. And like I was talking to you
Speaker 3: earlier about people in my community reaching out and say, hey,
Speaker 3: how are you doing, how's your day going, because you
Speaker 3: never know if somebody's just having a bad day. You
Speaker 3: don't know if somebody just came in and yelled at
Speaker 3: them for stupid reason. But being that different is the
Speaker 3: key in this world exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and certainly have faith in yourself, you know, I mean,
Speaker 4: we all go on separate journeys, we all go through
Speaker 4: various types of things, various types of trauma. Always be
Speaker 4: aware that someone is usually someone which always has it worse.
Speaker 4: But understand that even though someone is smiling, it doesn't
Speaker 4: always mean that they're smiling on the inside. So always
Speaker 4: be aware of the people around.
Speaker 3: You, exactly, because even you know, people are always going
Speaker 3: through things that you don't know about. My mother certainly dead,
Speaker 3: and a lot of stuff I she you know, she
Speaker 3: told me about, but a lot of stuff I found
Speaker 3: out after she died, and there were times when I
Speaker 3: thought we would never get along, but she ended up
Speaker 3: being my best friend. I miss her every day. So yeah,
Speaker 3: just I want be an it's cliche, be the good
Speaker 3: you want to see in the world. I deal with it.
Speaker 3: I have bad roadary hogging my horn, yelling at people,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, well, I don't know if that person's
Speaker 3: having a bad day or not. They could be distracted
Speaker 3: by I don't know, a family member in crisis, you know.
Speaker 3: And always work on yourself. That's what I try to
Speaker 3: do as an addict. I try to work on myself.
Speaker 3: That's the advice I get.
Speaker 4: Yeah, wonderful, that's wonderful advice. And yeah, you should always
Speaker 4: work on yourself, especially if you're the rock in someone's
Speaker 4: life and what you do affects those around you.
Speaker 3: Amen. There was a great moment that my mom had
Speaker 3: told me about before she passed away, when she was
Speaker 3: in her church, and it was of an elderly couple.
Speaker 3: The man had Alzheimer's early dementia and he was lifting
Speaker 3: his hands to the sky on his knees, and his
Speaker 3: wife was on her feet and had one hand on
Speaker 3: his shoulder and the other raced to the sky. And
Speaker 3: she said, that's what you know, we should strive to be,
Speaker 3: especially in a relationship, a marriage couple. You know, a
Speaker 3: man has got all this weight on his shoulder, and
Speaker 3: as woman, yeah, we have weight on her shoulder. We
Speaker 3: have your weight too, but we're going to have that
Speaker 3: hand raise the sky to help you.
Speaker 4: That is very true. Wonderful stuff, Sonny. Okay, Sonny, I
Speaker 4: really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate you having me to share my experiences.
Speaker 3: I just want to let people know if you have
Speaker 3: an experience, I know you might think you're crazy, but
Speaker 3: you're not alone. And we all think we're crazy, but
Speaker 3: we're not that kind of crazy.
Speaker 4: So it is wonderful to have you on. Okay, you
Speaker 4: enjoy the rest of your night, take cat and we
Speaker 4: will speak soon.
Speaker 3: Well, thank you very much. And it's been a pleasure talking.
Speaker 3: I've really had a lot of fun talking to you.
Speaker 4: I will speak to you soon, I hope.
Speaker 3: So you take care of you.
Speaker 4: You take cat bye fanew bye.
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Speaker 4: Hello, buds, welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 2: Hey, how you doing.
Speaker 4: I'm doing pretty good. It is great to have you
Speaker 4: join us today. And you're calling from Florida.
Speaker 2: Yes, Florida. I'd moved here i'd say probably maybe sixteen
Speaker 2: years ago and fell in love with it. I like
Speaker 2: living here. It's a real small town, live out in
Speaker 2: the country. Not a whole lot of stea lights around,
Speaker 2: so you can really see the stars really well, just
Speaker 2: really really good out here.
Speaker 3: I like it a lot.
Speaker 2: But I've always been, uh, had a curiosity, you know,
Speaker 2: about the paranormal and all that kind of stuff. When
Speaker 2: I was a kid, you know, we'd go to the
Speaker 2: library and school and uh, there wasn't very many books
Speaker 2: in there to check out on the subject. There was
Speaker 2: really only one, and uh, I would always check it
Speaker 2: out and redoing that that was neat. Uh. And well,
Speaker 2: you know, got to be a teenager and one day
Speaker 2: me and some friends of mine were sitting around on
Speaker 2: a summer evening and we were bored looking for something
Speaker 2: to do, and we decided to go try to chase
Speaker 2: down some of these paranormal things that happened around you,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like hot spots, Folkalore's type stuff,
Speaker 2: you know that we'd heard about nearby, and we tried
Speaker 2: to go and find one. A friend of mine told
Speaker 2: us about that was nearby, and so we'd go there.
Speaker 2: And we're riding in the car and were supposed to
Speaker 2: ride by a couple of times and see you go,
Speaker 2: and so we rode by a couple of times and
Speaker 2: didn't see anything, and then so we turned around and
Speaker 2: had to go back by it in order to leave.
Speaker 2: And when we did, that's when me and the friend
Speaker 2: of mine sitting in front of me, both saw it.
Speaker 2: A ghost that was out there above the railroad tracks,
Speaker 2: standing there. It was an old woman and she was
Speaker 2: dressed like old colonial times, you know, like the old
Speaker 2: long dress, had her hair in a bun. We both
Speaker 2: locked eyes with her, and as we drove by, and
Speaker 2: me and him both freaked out, and everybody else in
Speaker 2: the car was like no, no, no, y'are messing with us,
Speaker 2: and so we said turn around and go back, and
Speaker 2: so we turned around and went back, and turns out
Speaker 2: that was kind of a mistake because apparently the cops
Speaker 2: were nearby and they were sitting there watching us drive by.
Speaker 2: So they pulled us over, thinking we were out there
Speaker 2: doing something wrong that we shouldn't have been doing. I
Speaker 2: guess they were asking who we were there to meet
Speaker 2: and all this We were like no, he told them
Speaker 2: the story, you know, what we were there to do,
Speaker 2: and they laughed and chuckled, and then they asked if
Speaker 2: we knew someone in a silver Dodge, and we said, no,
Speaker 2: we don't know anybody in a silver Dodge. And then
Speaker 2: here comes driving up a silver Dodge, so the cop
Speaker 2: stopped him, and next thing you know, I hear somebody
Speaker 2: from the car hollered my name and my friend's name
Speaker 2: that was sitting in front of me. And turns out
Speaker 2: we knew them, and they were there doing the same thing,
Speaker 2: and the cop was just dying life, and he couldn't
Speaker 2: believe it when he came back with their story to
Speaker 2: the other cop, telling him why they were there, and
Speaker 2: we all kind of got a laugh out of it,
Speaker 2: you know. They sent us on our way and we
Speaker 2: all parted ways and went on ever since then. I
Speaker 2: hadn't really had anything pro normal happened since that. And
Speaker 2: that was up in Birmingham, Alabama. I lived up there.
Speaker 2: Then some years later I moved down here and lived
Speaker 2: here ever since. And then one day my mother was
Speaker 2: wanting to go and get my little sister a puppy
Speaker 2: at the Humane Society and asked me if I wanted
Speaker 2: to go, and I said sure, So I rode with
Speaker 2: them and we get there and I first pulled up
Speaker 2: in there, I could see some of the dogs in
Speaker 2: the cages there, and I saw this one dog that
Speaker 2: was sitting in there, and she looked pretty scared.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I kind of felt sorry for being in there in
Speaker 2: that cage, you know, I kind of wanted to adopt her,
Speaker 2: and so well, by that time, my mother and my
Speaker 2: little sister had done picked out a puppy, and so
Speaker 2: they were there to get her a puppy and not
Speaker 2: me a dog. Anyway, so we left and next day
Speaker 2: we find out that the puppy had carvo and had
Speaker 2: to be put down, and so did the other group
Speaker 2: of puppies that it was with. And so I told
Speaker 2: my mom, I said, ask him about that dog Lucky
Speaker 2: named Lucky of her. So they she did, and they
Speaker 2: said that the dog was still available, and I said, well,
Speaker 2: tell them we want that dog. So they sent that
Speaker 2: dog to the vet and everything was fine with that dog,
Speaker 2: so we went and picked her up. I had the
Speaker 2: dog for several years and grew a bond with that
Speaker 2: dog that I had never had with anybody else. I mean,
Speaker 2: that dog absolutely loved me to death, and I loved
Speaker 2: her to death. She followed me everywhere I went, had
Speaker 2: to be everywhere I was. And now one day my
Speaker 2: little sister wanted to go fishing, so we went to
Speaker 2: the pond down the road and we were fishing off
Speaker 2: the bank there and we hadn't been there for maybe
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. We were getting a few bites, having fun,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden I just felt in the
Speaker 2: pit of my stomach that we had to go. We
Speaker 2: had to leave, and told my little sister. I said, really, in,
Speaker 2: let's go, and she was like, well, we're having fun.
Speaker 2: I still want to fish some more. I said, well,
Speaker 2: we need to go. We have to go back to
Speaker 2: the house. And she said why. I said, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but we do. Come on, So she reeled in and
Speaker 2: we loaded up in the car and we drove back
Speaker 2: to the house. As soon as we pulled on the driveway,
Speaker 2: my dog walks around the corner and I just immediately
Speaker 2: could tell something was wrong. So get out of the
Speaker 2: car and I walk over there. Tour and I go
Speaker 2: to Petner and that's when I noticed that she had
Speaker 2: been bitten by a snake on her nose. So loaded
Speaker 2: her up in the car and started taking her to
Speaker 2: the vet and her head started swelling. That is so
Speaker 2: bad that I had to pull over and cut her
Speaker 2: collar off so she could breathe. Get her there, get
Speaker 2: her fixed up up. Next day, pick her up. Everything
Speaker 2: was fine. A couple of years later, I'm coming home
Speaker 2: from work, pulling the driveway and I turned the corner
Speaker 2: and I felt that exact same feeling again. And I
Speaker 2: pulled in the driveway and the first person I saw
Speaker 2: walk up was my cousin. He lives two houses down
Speaker 2: and comes over to see my dad every now and again,
Speaker 2: and so I really didn't think that was odd or anything,
Speaker 2: but I immediately jumped out of the car and I said,
Speaker 2: what's wrong with Lucky? And he said, she's under the
Speaker 2: back porch. We can't get her out. Maybe she'll come
Speaker 2: to you. And I said, okay, go over there in
Speaker 2: a call her. She comes to me, and she had
Speaker 2: been been several times this time, and I was pretty bad.
Speaker 2: It was so bad that her paul had swollen up
Speaker 2: to the point of splitting open, and the h that
Speaker 2: was closed at the time, so uh, I just had
Speaker 2: to stay with her all night until the next morning,
Speaker 2: and she didn't make it. The next morning. She died
Speaker 2: in my arms, and uh, it was uh, it's pretty
Speaker 2: hard for me, but anyway, I moved on. But to
Speaker 2: this day, my cousin still thinks that my aunt called
Speaker 2: me and told me that there was something wrong with
Speaker 2: my dog and I told him no, but uh still
Speaker 2: he still thinks his mother called and told me about
Speaker 2: my dog being uh sick, but she did. I just
Speaker 2: felt it, and uh well, I thought that was kind
Speaker 2: of odd and never really thought much more about it,
Speaker 2: you know. And then later on in life, a couple
Speaker 2: of years later, me and my cousin are sitting out
Speaker 2: there on his front porch. Used to go over there
Speaker 2: on the weekends, like on Fridays, we'd get off work,
Speaker 2: and we would hang out and sit on the front
Speaker 2: porch and listen to music and kind of play this
Speaker 2: game where we would guess the band that was playing
Speaker 2: the song. And so we're sitting there and I noticed
Speaker 2: my cousin glaring off in the distance there. I said,
Speaker 2: what are you looking at? And he said, some light
Speaker 2: keeps popping up over the horizon and then shoots back down,
Speaker 2: and I said, where're at? He goes all over the
Speaker 2: horizon there he goes. I feel like it's messing with me.
Speaker 2: I said, yeah, right, I thought he was joking around
Speaker 2: with me, and so I went yeah, right, he goes,
Speaker 2: I'll show it to you next time it pops up.
Speaker 2: I said, okay. About thirty minutes later, we're sitting there
Speaker 2: and he said, there it is, and I look up
Speaker 2: and it has already gone back down. That's how fast
Speaker 2: this thing was moving. Once again, I think he's messing
Speaker 2: with me. And I said, yeah, whatever, he goes, no,
Speaker 2: it'll pop back up. What man. It was About forty
Speaker 2: five minutes later it happened again, and said, there it is,
Speaker 2: and we look and it's right in front of us,
Speaker 2: in the middle of the sky. Come up in the
Speaker 2: middle of the riding and it was just sitting there
Speaker 2: and it was an amber light reddish ampflight and then
Speaker 2: in the blink of an eye, there was three of them,
Speaker 2: and then they disappeared. I thought that was odd, and
Speaker 2: I looked at him and said, wasn't that odd? And
Speaker 2: he he was like, well, yeah, but it's probably just
Speaker 2: some military stuff that they're fighting around with or something,
Speaker 2: you know. I said, well, okay, could be. We kind
Speaker 2: of lived near an air force base, so I didn't
Speaker 2: really think much more of it, you know, But that
Speaker 2: was the first thing I had ever seen up in
Speaker 2: the sky. I never knew I would see anything else,
Speaker 2: but til years later. We was at work one day
Speaker 2: and we were we were at the mall that had
Speaker 2: been closed down since we had a major hurricane come
Speaker 2: through and I kind of wiped out a lot of
Speaker 2: things and including that mall. But the company I worked at,
Speaker 2: they still serviced the property there, so we had to
Speaker 2: be there to service the property. And it was me
Speaker 2: and two other friends of mine I worked with, and
Speaker 2: this one guy he had been hired on i'd say
Speaker 2: about a year before this happened, but he lived out
Speaker 2: near me, and he asked me one day if I
Speaker 2: had seen these drones they've been flying around at night
Speaker 2: over near where we live. And I said, no, I
Speaker 2: haven't seen anything like that, and he said, oh, okay.
Speaker 2: And then we were at the mall working that day
Speaker 2: on a Friday, and we had just finished up, and
Speaker 2: we kind of got together to make sure we were
Speaker 2: all done with the property and discussed if we were
Speaker 2: done or not. That's when he said, yeah, you haven't
Speaker 2: seen any of them drones fly around like those right there.
Speaker 2: And I look up in the sky and all I
Speaker 2: can see is this cloud with the tail end of
Speaker 2: like a small aircraft and that's all you can see
Speaker 2: sticking out is the tail of it, and it's going
Speaker 2: and the cloud is following it. And then it turned
Speaker 2: and completely disappeared. I looked at them and I said,
Speaker 2: did that thing just disappear? And they said, yes, I
Speaker 2: guess it did. They were just as astonished as I
Speaker 2: was that something we were looking at formed a cloud
Speaker 2: around it and then turned and completely disappeared. I just
Speaker 2: couldn't believe that was why. Well really thought, well, you know,
Speaker 2: things really couldn't get much stranger than that. But now
Speaker 2: I got a stepdaughter and she comes over by, and
Speaker 2: she comes over to visit, you know, brings the grand
Speaker 2: babies and brings her husband with her, and we all
Speaker 2: spend time as a family and have fun. But every
Speaker 2: time she comes, weird things happen. I don't know why
Speaker 2: until my wife tells me that she's had She died
Speaker 2: a couple of times and was brought back. Once when
Speaker 2: she was five, she fell off a pon tomboat and
Speaker 2: couldn't swim, and her grandfather dove In, had to swim
Speaker 2: to the bottom of the lake and pull her up
Speaker 2: from the bottom of the lake. She had to be
Speaker 2: resuscitated and he died also in the process of saving her.
Speaker 2: But I don't know if that causes weird things to
Speaker 2: happen around her or not. But it's whenever they come over,
Speaker 2: I like to go outside and SkyWatch, look at the
Speaker 2: sky what I do every now and again. And one
Speaker 2: night her husband was out there. I just got in
Speaker 2: here from out of town, and I was helping him
Speaker 2: get some things out of the car and we noticed
Speaker 2: some stars moving around out there. We were watching them,
Speaker 2: and I said, well, maybe they're satellites, you know. I
Speaker 2: don't know, and he goes, no, I don't know. He
Speaker 2: he gets pretty deep into some of this stuff. And
Speaker 2: he said something about he's heard some conspiracy theory that
Speaker 2: there's some battle going on up there or what out
Speaker 2: in space, and we don't know about it because we
Speaker 2: can't go up there and look, you know. And I said, well,
Speaker 2: I hope the good guys are winning. And about that time,
Speaker 2: one of these moving lights that were just sitting there flashed,
Speaker 2: and it flashed like in the direction of us. Every
Speaker 2: single hair on my body stood up on you. I
Speaker 2: pointed and said, did you just see that? He said, yes,
Speaker 2: I did, and his bottom jaw was just hanging on
Speaker 2: the ground and then this thing starts moving across the sky.
Speaker 2: I just really couldn't believe it. I thought that was
Speaker 2: just one of the wildest things I had ever seen
Speaker 2: in my life. Well, I tell you, I don't know.
Speaker 2: It really kind of freaked me out a little bit,
Speaker 2: you know, But I probably shouldn't be, you know, because
Speaker 2: when something like that happens, the very first, you know,
Speaker 2: reaction that you have is like a reflex to rationalize it, saying, hey, well,
Speaker 2: it could have been this, or it could have been that,
Speaker 2: you know, and until you run out of okay, it
Speaker 2: couldn't have been this or it couldn't have been that.
Speaker 2: Then what you left with is something that you really
Speaker 2: can't understand. Kind of what was my mind? Yes, the
Speaker 2: connection with my dog I could chop up, you know,
Speaker 2: the fact that I loved her so much, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. Maybe we built a stronger bond with love,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I don't know. I things
Speaker 2: like the world could use a little bit of that.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, I couldn't agree more. A lot of pet owners
Speaker 4: out there listening will certainly understand. We build bonds with
Speaker 4: our pets. They're family members, same as lucky with you
Speaker 4: basically your shadow. I've got a cat Alaska that he's everywhere.
Speaker 4: I can't go anywhere in the house without him being
Speaker 4: literally next to me. He's a studio cat. He's next
Speaker 4: to me now everywhere I go. The only place he
Speaker 4: doesn't go is his shower because he doesn't like getting wet.
Speaker 4: But he is still in the bathroom. But yeah, we
Speaker 4: definitely build connections.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we do. I like I said, that's you know,
Speaker 2: I think we could do. It's a lot more love
Speaker 2: in this world. You know, people maybe should go that
Speaker 2: route instead of getting more amy or getting more upset
Speaker 2: with somebody, you know, even if it is somebody that
Speaker 2: you don't like or just like, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: instead of trying to hate them worse than they hate you,
Speaker 2: or dislike them worse than they dislike you, or you know,
Speaker 2: maybe you should actually care about you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Maybe show them a little bit of care. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe they'll change their position, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: You never know. That's kind of what that's taught me
Speaker 2: in life. That's my story. That's what has happened since
Speaker 2: you know, moved to Florida. I guess I can choke
Speaker 2: it up to living in Florida. I've been some crazy
Speaker 2: stuff since living here, and not just up in the sky.
Speaker 4: Well, Florida is a beautiful stage, but there's a lot
Speaker 4: of strange stuff that happens down in Florida.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that there is. That there is. But you know,
Speaker 2: like I said, you can always rationalize this stuff down
Speaker 2: to something else. But it's you know, I don't know,
Speaker 2: is that more fun? That any more fun? It's more
Speaker 2: fun to I don't know. I think maybe it was
Speaker 2: something else that you don't have an answer for absolutely.
Speaker 4: By we should always, you know, look of explanations before
Speaker 4: we say it's this or it's that. But you know,
Speaker 4: I like to still believe that there's mystery, and so
Speaker 4: there's always that bit of side of me which you know,
Speaker 4: I love hearing these unexplained accounts.
Speaker 2: Well that's what's always fascinated me, is the unexplained. Yah.
Speaker 2: I've always felt like those are the bigger questions in life.
Speaker 4: This is why I have the accounts like I do
Speaker 4: on the show, because I've always believed that they're all
Speaker 4: connected in some way. People really enjoy hearing about them.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I do too. I do too, But I'll
Speaker 2: watch a lot of these stories on TV, and my
Speaker 2: wife's like, why do you got to watch the same
Speaker 2: story four or five different times from different channels. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: each one adds a little bit extra information to it. Wow.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think there was one episode I heard on your
Speaker 2: podcast where some when I talked about hearing from their
Speaker 2: higher self, it did remind me of I've heard a
Speaker 2: voice one time. It woke me up. I sat straight
Speaker 2: up in the bed and it was the loudest whisper
Speaker 2: of a voice you could ever hear, and it woke
Speaker 2: me straight up. And the best way to describe it
Speaker 2: is it sounded a lot like the way they described
Speaker 2: it was. There was a lot more meaning behind what
Speaker 2: was just said. And the way the only way I
Speaker 2: can give you an example of that is, let's say
Speaker 2: we were in a meeting room and I leaned over
Speaker 2: to you and whispered, would you shut the door? And
Speaker 2: by the time you got up and went to the door,
Speaker 2: you shut it, lock it, barricade it up, build a
Speaker 2: brick wall around it, and in case it in concrete.
Speaker 2: You know, somehow you got that meaning from me saying
Speaker 2: shut the door. You knew I meant shut it, lock it,
Speaker 2: make sure, nobody ever comes in it again, you know
Speaker 2: kind of deal. The only thing he said was take
Speaker 2: care of your family, and it sat me straight up.
Speaker 2: But it was more like a get off your ass
Speaker 2: right now, and you need to start taking care of
Speaker 2: your family type message I got from that one boy.
Speaker 2: Like I said, I chalked it up living in Florida,
Speaker 2: so it was insightful.
Speaker 4: So that voice came at a time that there was
Speaker 4: a lot of relevance to it there.
Speaker 2: Yes, it did it very well did. I had just
Speaker 2: been let go from a job. I was feeling very depressed.
Speaker 2: I was collecting unemployment at the time. I really couldn't
Speaker 2: find another job at the time doing what I was
Speaker 2: doing because it's seasonal here. I worked in landscaping and
Speaker 2: so it's very seasonal time during the winter that nobody's hiring.
Speaker 2: I was really depressed off. So it gave me the
Speaker 2: kick in the ass I needed to go and find
Speaker 2: something else. So it served its purpose for sure.
Speaker 4: I hear this now and again, giving you a message.
Speaker 4: It's come at the right time, and then it's kind
Speaker 4: of just put you on the correct path and giving
Speaker 4: you the motivation you probably needed.
Speaker 2: Well, it really did it. Helped me kind of get
Speaker 2: over being depressed and being upset about some things. And
Speaker 2: then it gave me the like I said, the kicking
Speaker 2: the butt I needed to go and do what I
Speaker 2: needed to do, you know, find another job. So I did.
Speaker 4: But you know that's perfect. We all get in those
Speaker 4: dark places now and again what we could do with
Speaker 4: a bit of a bit of a boost. Yeah, that's great,
Speaker 4: great stuff.
Speaker 1: Back.
Speaker 2: Well, well, thank you. The only way I knew how
Speaker 2: to describe it what it was was because I'd heard
Speaker 2: a guest on your podcast they thought it was their
Speaker 2: higher self, and I guess, well, I guess that's what
Speaker 2: I was. You know, I know.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know it could be yourself from the future.
Speaker 4: Go come on back, let's get this together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it could have been. I guess it was definitely odd.
Speaker 4: Definitely odd. But I really appreciate you coming on sharing
Speaker 4: that for our listeners.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for letting me come on and just
Speaker 2: tell my story. Maybe somebody who gets something positive out
Speaker 2: of it. I hope you have. You have a good e.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, you take care of yourself and we will speak soon.
Speaker 2: All right, you too, bye, next, wonderful bye. For now.
Speaker 4: That is all for this episode. Keep updated and connected
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Speaker 4: you have an encounter that you'd like to share on
Speaker 4: the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles at
Speaker 4: gmail dot com, or you can reach out to me
Speaker 4: via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast
Speaker 4: dot com. A big thank you to Sonny and Bart
Speaker 4: for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I
Speaker 4: will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and
Speaker 4: keep watching the Skies. Goodbye,