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<v Speaker 1>This is Eye on the Ball with Steve Rivera and

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<v Speaker 3>Good afternoon, everybody, Welcome to Eye on the Ball here

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<v Speaker 3>on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. Nobody's guesting

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<v Speaker 3>with me today, but I have my guy Juan with

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<v Speaker 3>me today, so you're my new guest.

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<v Speaker 4>One.

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<v Speaker 5>Glad to be here Another Friday, Another Friday.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, yes, you got control of the board, so

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<v Speaker 3>we're in trusting to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Uh what the Friday? You're gonna be busy tomorrownight. Yes,

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<v Speaker 5>they're gonna be watching that showdown between the youth and

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<v Speaker 5>the cats.

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<v Speaker 3>You think they have you think? Hold on, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 3>into something. Do you think Utah thinks since a showdown?

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<v Speaker 3>I would think so.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think they go into any game thinking like

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<v Speaker 6>it's gonna be okazy one.

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<v Speaker 5>I think that's just their who they are. Yes, their

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<v Speaker 5>program right.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you surely don't want to look at Arizona as

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<v Speaker 3>a show now because of what happened last year. But

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<v Speaker 3>I know the internet has been buzzied all over, back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth with the guys on Twitter and blah blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah and the fans.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, stir the beast, then man, poke the bear. Do

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<v Speaker 5>what you want.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's strange if it's true and I didn't check

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<v Speaker 3>it out, I guess the spread went up to eleven

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<v Speaker 3>and a half twelve and it's back down to tennish.

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<v Speaker 6>Really, I don't, did you. I haven't been keeping tracking.

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<v Speaker 6>I had a friend tell me that it had been

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<v Speaker 6>going back.

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<v Speaker 3>And forth, back and forth. It went down to maybe tenny.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't checked, which is kind of strange. That means

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<v Speaker 3>that Vegas knows something that's going on either here or there. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and who knows what's happening here?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>They keep things kind of tight. We don't get to

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<v Speaker 3>see them very often, not that I go anyway anymore

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<v Speaker 3>to go talk to the football team. So we'll see,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, because that two point swing is a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, So we'll see what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>If anybody wants to call us, I'll tell you who

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<v Speaker 3>the people are in the second five two, four, one, six,

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<v Speaker 3>seventy four forty.

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<v Speaker 5>You can call us anytime.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, that well, not any Yeah, anytime, we even have guests,

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<v Speaker 3>so you can ask questions of the guests. And today's

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<v Speaker 3>guests are Jim liven Goood, former you of a AD

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<v Speaker 3>a long time obviously, many years ago, twenty years ago

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<v Speaker 3>or so, and then he was also the AD at

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<v Speaker 3>un l V after Arizona, and there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>things going on at UNLV.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously. We talked about this the last couple.

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<v Speaker 3>Of days with the kid leaving three or four games

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<v Speaker 3>in and actually and expecting more more money for this year.

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<v Speaker 3>So we'll get his reaction to all that and just

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<v Speaker 3>how the world of sports has changed, because I know

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<v Speaker 3>another guy is his teammate, did the same thing, not

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<v Speaker 3>so much about the money. And a guy Washington who's

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<v Speaker 3>playing for for Jed I said, I'm out, yeah today, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>he's guess where he was from. Guess where you transfer from. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>who knows? You might come here be nice anyone. So

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<v Speaker 3>and you need those type of players anyway. So there's that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm sure it's going to continue to happen as

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<v Speaker 3>we move forward. Okay, and then in the second hour

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<v Speaker 3>we have our usual guests, Jake Fisher. We haven't talked

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<v Speaker 3>to him in a couple of weeks, we'll talk to

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<v Speaker 3>him about the football team, his reaction to the loss,

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<v Speaker 3>and what's going on in the world of n I

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<v Speaker 3>l If you remember, Jake was one of the not

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<v Speaker 3>first he's not the Ed O'Bannon guy, but he's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the guys here under Rich Rod that helped kind

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<v Speaker 3>of continue the nil pay for play type of situation

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<v Speaker 3>back in the day. We've talked to him a number

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<v Speaker 3>of times. Sometimes he gets uncomfortable. We'll see what he's

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<v Speaker 3>thinking now that the kids are arguing, hey, pay me

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<v Speaker 3>or I'm out type of thing, threatening, type of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it depends who you believe on that story.

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<v Speaker 5>Who do you believe?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you have to think it's the player that

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't get paid to what was promised.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I also hear you know he got he got there.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh is getting three thousand dollars a month, which is fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think everybody's getting that. Uh they go three and

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<v Speaker 3>oh and now who has the advantage play the player?

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<v Speaker 5>And if you want me to stay, we can stay.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll stay.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you see I'm not sure you have this sort

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<v Speaker 3>of breaking news, But in Vegas, one of the casinos

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<v Speaker 3>was gonna pay him one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>Really, I think I did see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, casino is gonna pay him to stay and play.

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<v Speaker 3>By that time, the damage had already been done with

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<v Speaker 3>you know, he said, now we're not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 3>That that gives that's paying the hostage, you know, paying

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<v Speaker 3>for the hostage. Uh, And there's no true winner. You

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<v Speaker 3>get the body back, but then things are already damaged.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, just sets a precedent, right for any anyone else

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<v Speaker 6>to go and do that. Sure, that's sure. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think that's what college sports would be about.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they of course they're players, they work hard,

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<v Speaker 6>they should be earning this money. But how they go

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<v Speaker 6>about it? Yeah, right, there's a way. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you do you think having been a you're a

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<v Speaker 3>student now there should there be a threshold? Should there

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<v Speaker 3>be a limit to what they get?

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<v Speaker 5>Or you get what you get? I think you get

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<v Speaker 5>what you get.

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<v Speaker 6>I think they should be happy with the fact that

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<v Speaker 6>they're just getting stuff right in the first place.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, But obviously one hundred thousand enough, there's life outside

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<v Speaker 5>of college football.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, you got stuff to worry and think about and

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<v Speaker 6>work for, So there might be something behind it all.

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<v Speaker 6>For him, it might just be I need my money

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<v Speaker 6>uh away for school. To look at him and say

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<v Speaker 6>pick me, pick me?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah? Yeah, did you write anything about two this weekend's game?

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<v Speaker 5>The preview? Yeah? What about the defense?

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<v Speaker 6>We talked to Akina yesterday Johnson, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So what were the time of questions? What type of

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<v Speaker 3>questions were asked of? He's and he's pretty good with

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that, even if you're getting tough with him.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know if anybody's got tough with them.

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<v Speaker 6>But now he's he recognizes that the play hasn't been

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<v Speaker 6>absolutely stellar, but the reality is they are two and one.

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<v Speaker 6>They won quote unquote the first quarter of their season, right,

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<v Speaker 6>I get that, And I liked this quote, and it's

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<v Speaker 6>been out there. He talked about how last year this

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<v Speaker 6>team loses to USC, they lose to Washington and the

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<v Speaker 6>city's excited, but now they're going to lose to Kansas

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<v Speaker 6>State and the world's ending.

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<v Speaker 3>And isn't that true? Yeah? And that's how this place is.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's how any place is, especially when you

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<v Speaker 3>have these high expectations. I saw something yesterday or this

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<v Speaker 3>morning talking about the expectations have been lowered. Intend did

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<v Speaker 3>someone say that a quote yesterday for football?

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<v Speaker 5>For football? No, No, it's been raised. No, No, this

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<v Speaker 5>year it's been raised. What do you mean? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 5>think I think the expectations have been raised.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, you bring back a majority of last year's

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<v Speaker 6>team and they went ten and three.

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<v Speaker 5>They I think there's a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of there's been a lot of overreaction to the

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<v Speaker 6>Kansas State game, in my opinion, by the fans.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes fans, okay.

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<v Speaker 3>But I saw something maybe it was a goay see

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<v Speaker 3>quoting somebody about the expectations.

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<v Speaker 5>I know Kena talked about it, and what did he say.

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<v Speaker 6>He said that those standards and the the expectations have

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<v Speaker 6>risen because of last year, because of the hard work

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<v Speaker 6>that they did. Rightfully, so, but you know, Kansas State's

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<v Speaker 6>a good team. They're a good team. I think I

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<v Speaker 6>think it wouldn't have been such an overreaction if we

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<v Speaker 6>had had been a little closer score, if we had

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<v Speaker 6>taken it to the fourth quarter. But it is what

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<v Speaker 6>it is, and now we gotta go to Salt Lake tomorrow. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>did I hear we?

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<v Speaker 5>Yes?

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<v Speaker 6>Unfortunately, I heard that too. As soon as I said it,

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<v Speaker 6>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 5>I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to hook with me because you are

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<v Speaker 3>a student. But that when you're writing, right, that when

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<v Speaker 3>you're writing, I get that. So there's that. No, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they have changed, though I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 3>have to find that quote where the expectations have changed

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<v Speaker 3>because of what's happened.

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<v Speaker 5>And I know it's overreaction.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no question that was overreaction to that loss, because

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<v Speaker 3>I'm one of those believers and I brought this thought

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<v Speaker 3>to here to me for a long, a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It's how you play that day, and Arizona didn't play

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<v Speaker 3>that well that day.

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<v Speaker 5>Things could change.

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<v Speaker 3>Tomorrow and they can play out of their minds and

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<v Speaker 3>win the game and then guess what, everybody who said

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<v Speaker 3>it's over, hell with you. And then guess what a

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<v Speaker 3>week later they could poop the bed again and then

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<v Speaker 3>here we go again. And it's just the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>I see it in basketball. I've seen it in basketball

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<v Speaker 3>a number of years where they win these big games.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you last year. Last year, and you're a fan,

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<v Speaker 3>we didn't know going in how good Arizona basketball was

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<v Speaker 3>going to be right. We just didn't know. Caleb had

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<v Speaker 3>just shown up, Bradley had just shown up. He joined

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<v Speaker 3>a few of the other guys. There was a few

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<v Speaker 3>newcomers to the program. And you're thinking, oh, okay, how good,

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<v Speaker 3>and then what happened and you go and beat Duke

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<v Speaker 3>at Duke and what happens everything in flights.

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<v Speaker 5>Everyone loves Arizona basketball, Arizona exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna win, They're gonna get back to the Final four,

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<v Speaker 3>YadA YadA.

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<v Speaker 5>And we've seen this. I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been here thirty seven years, cover the team for

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five directly, and it happens all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>And it's the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>The worst thing to me last year was they and

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<v Speaker 3>pardon me, anybody who's listening, was they beat Duke. Because

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<v Speaker 3>now you have to you start thinking, oh, these guys

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<v Speaker 3>are unbeatable, unbelievable, and that's not true because it's what

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<v Speaker 3>November eighth, I think it was November eighth, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you have December, January, February, March, four months of having

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<v Speaker 3>to stay at that level. Not gonna happen. Luke couldn't

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<v Speaker 3>do it, Sean couldn't do it. Anybody since it can't

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it just doesn't work that way. And now we're

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<v Speaker 3>Big twelve, and now you're in the Big twelve, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's going to be very, very difficult. It's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be do games weekly type of games, right right, right right.

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<v Speaker 3>That schedule looks tough though. Good luck to them, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And they're no shame in losing, no shame in losing.

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<v Speaker 5>We talked about this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I had Bruce Pascal on and I thought he made

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<v Speaker 3>the show, that it's going to be great to be

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<v Speaker 3>in this league. The final four weekends are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be brutal right, they're gonna be on the road, and

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<v Speaker 3>they could be finishing third, fourth, fifth in the league

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<v Speaker 3>and teams like that, and you're thinking, Okay, they're in

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<v Speaker 3>maybe a better chance of winning the NCAA tournament because

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<v Speaker 3>Bruce pointed out that if you go to history, that

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<v Speaker 3>Just because you get beat up in the Big twelve

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't make you that much better to go play. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>they might be tiring you out. So you look at

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<v Speaker 3>that league is a little too tough, or because you

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<v Speaker 5>Hurt, then you're thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>But then you're coming off of a Pack twelve season

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<v Speaker 3>where you go, let's say twenty six and five or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're thinking the Gonzaga approach. You're thinking, maybe we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't play tough enough teams to get ready for the tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>So you look at it one way, look at the other.

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<v Speaker 3>There's really no right answer, right, you know Vegas when

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<v Speaker 3>they went and they won, and then a year later

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<v Speaker 3>they didn't play very many teams or they were undefeated

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<v Speaker 3>and they get beat by Duke the year later after

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<v Speaker 3>they beat Duke, well they should have on that day,

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<v Speaker 3>Duke was better the previous year.

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<v Speaker 5>On that day, un l V was better.

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<v Speaker 6>Exactly what And there might be a similar conversation this year.

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<v Speaker 6>Last year, Arizona was better this year, sure, of course,

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<v Speaker 6>of course, and we'll get to that. I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 6>thrilled for the fans that have waited a long time

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<v Speaker 6>to see and pay for.

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<v Speaker 5>A great home schedule.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that's what this is going to be, minus

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<v Speaker 3>minus the Kansas game.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know.

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<v Speaker 6>And there's no reason for mchil not to have an emptyc.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, there's no right to this year. Yeah. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 5>you've seen it.

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<v Speaker 3>You've seen you Your first year was was one Tommy's

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<v Speaker 3>first year.

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<v Speaker 5>But did you go to games when Sean was there? No,

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<v Speaker 5>went to a couple.

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<v Speaker 3>But his last few years were like that where it was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, twelve thousand, blah blah blah. They may have

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<v Speaker 3>said it was sold out. Okay, maybe they were sold out,

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<v Speaker 3>but the people weren't in there. No. Yeah, and because

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<v Speaker 3>they weren't that good. They weren't that good. And Tucson

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you have to. You have to look good too.

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<v Speaker 6>You can can win all you want, but if it's

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<v Speaker 6>a all right, that team just wasn't that good type

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<v Speaker 6>of win, right, No one necessarily wants to see They

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<v Speaker 6>want to see high flying entertainment. Yeah, big wins, big threes,

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<v Speaker 6>all over the place, big donks stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure they want to win, but they also want to

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<v Speaker 3>be entertained exactly. Yeah, So we'll see what happens with that.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the women are getting have gotten to that

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<v Speaker 3>point too, now that they've got a nice fan base.

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<v Speaker 5>And did you cover.

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<v Speaker 3>Anything like that previously previously with women's basketball.

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<v Speaker 6>I haven't been able to cover it so far, but

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<v Speaker 6>I've followed it, and I think the teams is team

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<v Speaker 6>yours team is going to be interesting because because they

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<v Speaker 6>bring back a lot of experience, in my opinion, a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of young experience, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 6>That's what talked about earlier this week. They brought back

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<v Speaker 6>a corps. They went to the tournament last year. They

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<v Speaker 6>got that experience. So I think even though they're in

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<v Speaker 5>Right, no questions.

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<v Speaker 3>And then she has some probably experience on how to

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to eying the ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>We have former you of aa D GYM Live and

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<v Speaker 3>good Jim. How the heck are you?

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<v Speaker 14>Steve? I'm great. Hopefully you and Jay are doing great too.

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<v Speaker 14>I know you are.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we're doing fine. But let me break some news

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<v Speaker 14>You know what I heard that or read dad or

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<v Speaker 3>in this big world of money, he had to go

428
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<v Speaker 3>get like a real job.

429
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<v Speaker 14>Oh, Steve. Terrible when people have to get real jo it.

430
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<v Speaker 3>Sucks, Jim, you know how that goes. You know, Hey,

431
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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to audition you for a co host. Come on,

432
00:20:07.480 --> 00:20:11.400
<v Speaker 3>come up north, Hey, Steve Rivera, anytime that'd be.

433
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<v Speaker 5>That's fantastic. We could go back and forth.

434
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<v Speaker 3>You know, you remember when Jim you didn't want to

435
00:20:16.240 --> 00:20:19.039
<v Speaker 3>talk to me aunt quote you remember Steve, you treated

436
00:20:19.079 --> 00:20:22.000
<v Speaker 3>me even fairly. We can go back like you're you're

437
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<v Speaker 3>the you're the best I love it and that and

438
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<v Speaker 3>I think the world of you.

439
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<v Speaker 4>You know that.

440
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<v Speaker 3>Well, thank you, Jim. I appreciate the last time we

441
00:20:28.960 --> 00:20:31.359
<v Speaker 3>let me see this. Every time we talk to you, Okay,

442
00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.799
<v Speaker 3>we say goodbye, Jim, be well, we know you're enjoying

443
00:20:33.799 --> 00:20:38.000
<v Speaker 3>your your your your you're not your vacation, but your retirement.

444
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<v Speaker 3>Things get more katawampy. They're all messed up.

445
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<v Speaker 14>Now.

446
00:20:41.880 --> 00:20:44.880
<v Speaker 5>We have a kid in Vegas, your old stomping grounds.

447
00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.079
<v Speaker 3>Leaving because the money wasn't paid, you.

448
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<v Speaker 14>Know, Steve, It's it's just absolutely crazy. And I mentioned

449
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<v Speaker 14>earlier briefly that you know, we're up in Phoenix right

450
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<v Speaker 14>now with Linda's sister and her husband. But the thing

451
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<v Speaker 14>in in Las Vegas, the thing with the rebels is crazy.

452
00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:05.039
<v Speaker 14>And I just you know, everybody's got an opinion, and

453
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<v Speaker 14>I've seen all kinds of comments, you know, on one

454
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<v Speaker 14>side of the other side, and in terms of contractual

455
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<v Speaker 14>agreements that weren't met, or at least verbal agreements that

456
00:21:14.720 --> 00:21:18.960
<v Speaker 14>weren't met. But man, three games into the season, I

457
00:21:19.000 --> 00:21:21.440
<v Speaker 14>seem but I just wonder if this isn't kind of

458
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<v Speaker 14>the opening of the damn with the NIF situation.

459
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<v Speaker 3>You know, darn well it is because because it's just crazy.

460
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<v Speaker 3>And let me ask you, and I don't know if

461
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<v Speaker 3>you know the answer to this. And I've said this

462
00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.960
<v Speaker 3>after Arizona lost to Kansas State. So Jim liven Goood

463
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<v Speaker 3>gets this nil deal with whomever, whether it's the school

464
00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:45.920
<v Speaker 3>or mister businessman in Tucson. He gets this fifty thousand dollars. Okay,

465
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<v Speaker 3>you know I'm gonna I want you to come and

466
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<v Speaker 3>play for Arizona. You're here for Arizona. I want to

467
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<v Speaker 3>keep you here. When do you get paid?

468
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<v Speaker 5>One?

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<v Speaker 3>And Two, If Jim liven Good gets paid the first

470
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<v Speaker 3>week of the season, what in the world do we

471
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<v Speaker 3>expect from him if he's already been paid?

472
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<v Speaker 14>Steve the crazy thing about that, And as I understand it,

473
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<v Speaker 14>and having a visit with a lot of people, not

474
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<v Speaker 14>just in Tucson, but certainly regionally and nationally, the payment

475
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<v Speaker 14>schedule typically with many places, most places is on a

476
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<v Speaker 14>quarterly basis, but some places will pay on a week

477
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<v Speaker 14>And my understanding in terms of the young man in

478
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<v Speaker 14>Vegas was paid and was kind of a situation where

479
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<v Speaker 14>they were paying his boopeting expenses and then we're gonna

480
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<v Speaker 14>pay X amount month, But Steve, that is a great

481
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<v Speaker 14>question because how often that's paid and what kind of

482
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<v Speaker 14>of the payment structure I guess we're talking about that

483
00:22:40.559 --> 00:22:44.720
<v Speaker 14>becomes really important. And the whole thing. I mean, that's

484
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<v Speaker 14>where the contracts come in and the collective. This thing

485
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<v Speaker 14>just needs to be regulated much more. What just scares

486
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<v Speaker 14>me more than anything else is think about payments that

487
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<v Speaker 14>are made and somebody gets hurt, somebody claims like this

488
00:23:03.720 --> 00:23:08.119
<v Speaker 14>situation right now that you know I was promises, well purportedly,

489
00:23:08.160 --> 00:23:11.359
<v Speaker 14>I was promised by somebody, but the person that promised

490
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<v Speaker 14>didn't have the authority to do that. There are so

491
00:23:15.000 --> 00:23:17.839
<v Speaker 14>many loopholes in this, you know, this is one of

492
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<v Speaker 14>those things that Steves you and I've talked about a

493
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<v Speaker 14>thousand things over the years, but this is one of

494
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<v Speaker 14>those things that I'm not sure how it's ever going

495
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<v Speaker 14>to be solved unless there's some sort of written financial

496
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<v Speaker 14>agreement that's honored. You know, certainly goes through attorneys in

497
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<v Speaker 14>some way, but it's really getting scary in terms of

498
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<v Speaker 14>what's happening. Who knows what really happened in that case,

499
00:23:45.640 --> 00:23:49.799
<v Speaker 14>and who knows what a lot of places of you know,

500
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<v Speaker 14>agreements or things being honored gosh.

501
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<v Speaker 5>Let me ask you.

502
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<v Speaker 3>This is a hypothetical, but I know you'll be direct

503
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<v Speaker 3>and honest with me. Nineteen twenty seven. I'm just throwing

504
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<v Speaker 3>a number out here. Nineteen seventy seven, young Jim leven

505
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<v Speaker 3>Goood is out working, and I don't know where you were.

506
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<v Speaker 3>I'm just throwing a number out there. Could be in

507
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<v Speaker 3>nineteen eighty ye you may have been in Washington State

508
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<v Speaker 3>by this time or whatever. Would you have changed your

509
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<v Speaker 3>your career process or your career path had this been

510
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<v Speaker 3>going on at the time, because I was I don't

511
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<v Speaker 3>want to say, this's too much where an AD has

512
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<v Speaker 3>this idea of being an ad and then they have

513
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<v Speaker 3>to deal with this now.

514
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<v Speaker 14>Steve, it's amazingly appropriate and how timely that you asked

515
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<v Speaker 14>something like that in nineteen seventy seven. I know that's

516
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<v Speaker 14>just a date, but I was the athletic director and

517
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<v Speaker 14>football basketball coach, taught no classes at Afreid to high

518
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<v Speaker 14>school and Afreida in the state of Washington. And the

519
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<v Speaker 14>direct answer to that, I never had a dream of

520
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<v Speaker 14>being in college athletics. And so quite candidly, if it's

521
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<v Speaker 14>this day and age that happened back and then yeah,

522
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<v Speaker 14>I think she thinks seriously about whether that that was

523
00:25:00.319 --> 00:25:03.359
<v Speaker 14>a would be a good move getting into college athletics,

524
00:25:03.599 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 14>because there are so many things that are not controllable.

525
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<v Speaker 14>And the nice thing of my dream, My dream was

526
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<v Speaker 14>to and you won't ring a bell at all in

527
00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.799
<v Speaker 14>terms of geography with you, but my dream was to

528
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<v Speaker 14>the athletic director at Winanchi High School, a great high

529
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<v Speaker 14>school in the state of Washington, phenomenal city on the

530
00:25:22.920 --> 00:25:26.880
<v Speaker 14>Columbia River. Blah blah blah. But what's happening in terms

531
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<v Speaker 14>of fast forward? I don't know how anybody And think

532
00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:37.599
<v Speaker 14>about it, with coaches, with administration, ads, with presidents, with regents,

533
00:25:38.839 --> 00:25:42.960
<v Speaker 14>nobody knows what the final thing because like anything else, Steve,

534
00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:47.000
<v Speaker 14>anybody can can say they're speaking for you. And in

535
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<v Speaker 14>somebody situations where kids now are in the portal or

536
00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:54.440
<v Speaker 14>kids are transferring, who knows. I mean, whatever sounds best

537
00:25:54.759 --> 00:25:59.160
<v Speaker 14>seems to be best, and whatever sounds best, whatever purportedly

538
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<v Speaker 14>has agreed to, who knows what's going to come up

539
00:26:02.759 --> 00:26:07.039
<v Speaker 14>a day later, seventy two hours later with a better offer.

540
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<v Speaker 14>So I just don't I feel so bad for people.

541
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<v Speaker 14>I feel bad for coaches, feel bad for athletic administrators

542
00:26:14.440 --> 00:26:17.599
<v Speaker 14>of where what do you know is real? What do

543
00:26:17.640 --> 00:26:21.880
<v Speaker 14>you know is true for kids? Parents? In this case?

544
00:26:21.960 --> 00:26:26.200
<v Speaker 14>Right now? You know, parents get involved, agents get involved,

545
00:26:26.359 --> 00:26:29.599
<v Speaker 14>representatives get involved. So who knows what the thing is.

546
00:26:29.799 --> 00:26:32.599
<v Speaker 14>But it's very time me that you would ask. Nineteen

547
00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:36.759
<v Speaker 14>seventy seven, I can remember like it, Well, I I

548
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<v Speaker 14>that seemed like a great job.

549
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, no, and just and then a comfortable job, right.

550
00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:43.279
<v Speaker 3>You know, I hate you're probably thinking I could retire

551
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<v Speaker 3>doing this, you know.

552
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<v Speaker 14>Absolutely, and maybe maybe I'll get a watch out of it,

553
00:26:50.359 --> 00:26:52.799
<v Speaker 14>or or even if I don't even get a watch,

554
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<v Speaker 14>I'm doing it because I know that my family would

555
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<v Speaker 14>be safe, and friends and so on. Yeah, and I

556
00:27:01.000 --> 00:27:04.039
<v Speaker 14>just think I've got so many colleagues now that they

557
00:27:04.160 --> 00:27:08.359
<v Speaker 14>have kids, their own kids who are in the profession

558
00:27:08.400 --> 00:27:11.319
<v Speaker 14>and the business, and they just shake their head about

559
00:27:11.640 --> 00:27:15.079
<v Speaker 14>you know, this is today, Okay, what's going to happen

560
00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.359
<v Speaker 14>is the twenty seventh of September. What's going to happen tomorrow?

561
00:27:19.519 --> 00:27:19.720
<v Speaker 5>Right?

562
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<v Speaker 14>Or next week or next month?

563
00:27:22.160 --> 00:27:24.039
<v Speaker 5>Well, I remember this distinctly.

564
00:27:24.079 --> 00:27:26.400
<v Speaker 3>You got here at about ninety three, I think it

565
00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:30.599
<v Speaker 3>was ninety three. You had just moved from Washington State

566
00:27:30.799 --> 00:27:33.000
<v Speaker 3>and a little before you left or a little after

567
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:34.640
<v Speaker 3>you left. I think it was after you left. There

568
00:27:34.680 --> 00:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>were a couple of football players. They were messing with

569
00:27:37.039 --> 00:27:40.039
<v Speaker 3>bombs in mailboxes. I think one had lost his arm

570
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 3>or something, and I'm thinking, well, this is what you.

571
00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:43.359
<v Speaker 5>Had to deal with.

572
00:27:43.400 --> 00:27:45.920
<v Speaker 3>And then maybe a little after that, maybe a year

573
00:27:45.960 --> 00:27:48.160
<v Speaker 3>or two, other things that happened, and you got to

574
00:27:48.200 --> 00:27:51.559
<v Speaker 3>work eighties, have to worry about five hundred and fifty athletes.

575
00:27:51.640 --> 00:27:53.400
<v Speaker 3>You know, sleep, go to sleep at night, hope nothing

576
00:27:53.480 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 3>goes wrong, because you wake up to news that something happened.

577
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<v Speaker 3>And those were the sadly to say, not that the

578
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.160
<v Speaker 3>were the good ole dais. Those are the times where

579
00:28:02.440 --> 00:28:03.839
<v Speaker 3>you know, those are the things you worry about. Now

580
00:28:03.880 --> 00:28:06.079
<v Speaker 3>you have to worry about that plus the money.

581
00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 14>See Rivera, you have an amazing memory. That is exactly

582
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.519
<v Speaker 14>and the irony of that. On Monday of this week,

583
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<v Speaker 14>four days ago, Kelvin Samson and I were just talking

584
00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.599
<v Speaker 14>about that, talking about those in because Kevin and I

585
00:28:20.599 --> 00:28:23.359
<v Speaker 14>were together. That's the full time at Washington State and

586
00:28:23.920 --> 00:28:26.920
<v Speaker 14>those kind of things, and that you're exactly right with.

587
00:28:27.400 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 14>It was kind of a prank. Kids were playing around

588
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.039
<v Speaker 14>with it and it went awry and and you're exactly

589
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:36.519
<v Speaker 14>right with the explosive device that went off. But now

590
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.279
<v Speaker 14>there are so many more things to think about, and

591
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:44.279
<v Speaker 14>and the number of things and the the the reaction,

592
00:28:44.960 --> 00:28:48.000
<v Speaker 14>and how many things now will go go forward in

593
00:28:48.079 --> 00:28:51.359
<v Speaker 14>terms of this event because there they're not we don't

594
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:55.400
<v Speaker 14>hear about things and other schools, but the UNLV thing,

595
00:28:55.960 --> 00:28:59.039
<v Speaker 14>it's I don't know, I don't know how you plug

596
00:28:59.079 --> 00:29:02.319
<v Speaker 14>it up right. I feel bad. Harp's doing a phenomenal job.

597
00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:06.519
<v Speaker 14>Eric Harper is at the un being and Barry Odom

598
00:29:06.559 --> 00:29:09.920
<v Speaker 14>is a fabulous hire and doing a great job. But

599
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:13.119
<v Speaker 14>think about this. They're going to play President of State

600
00:29:13.160 --> 00:29:16.160
<v Speaker 14>tomorrow's three. You know, they've got a chance to They

601
00:29:16.359 --> 00:29:18.519
<v Speaker 14>already have a great football team, but they have a

602
00:29:18.599 --> 00:29:22.480
<v Speaker 14>chance to have a fabulous season. And now they've got

603
00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 14>two players who have not played a whole lot who

604
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 14>they're trying to get ready to play tomorrow. Oh my

605
00:29:28.759 --> 00:29:33.960
<v Speaker 14>guysh see, I think it's going to get even scarier

606
00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.680
<v Speaker 14>than it is right now because of the kind of thing. Somebody,

607
00:29:38.039 --> 00:29:41.880
<v Speaker 14>people with very great with great intelligence, somebody will get

608
00:29:41.880 --> 00:29:44.519
<v Speaker 14>their arms around the NIL thing, and they'll get their

609
00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:47.279
<v Speaker 14>arms around the portal in that and figure out some

610
00:29:47.359 --> 00:29:50.279
<v Speaker 14>way to be able to control that, because it's not

611
00:29:50.480 --> 00:29:54.079
<v Speaker 14>about trying to limit student athletes making money in the NL.

612
00:29:54.400 --> 00:29:57.759
<v Speaker 14>It's not about that at all. It's somebody told me

613
00:29:57.799 --> 00:30:01.880
<v Speaker 14>here last week they were shot. It's student athletes had

614
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 14>to pay taxes on that money. They were absolutely and

615
00:30:07.599 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 14>you know, but there are a lot of things. I

616
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<v Speaker 14>mean this, See your career has been so long. Has

617
00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:15.559
<v Speaker 14>some of these things have to shock you? Oh?

618
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<v Speaker 7>They do?

619
00:30:16.160 --> 00:30:18.519
<v Speaker 5>They do? They disappoint me. Jim.

620
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.720
<v Speaker 3>I was on the phone with UH with guests Matt

621
00:30:21.799 --> 00:30:24.640
<v Speaker 3>Moneno and Troy Hutchinson, and we were talking about this

622
00:30:24.759 --> 00:30:26.400
<v Speaker 3>maybe a month or six weeks ago, and they were

623
00:30:26.400 --> 00:30:29.400
<v Speaker 3>telling me, watch, this is gonna happen. And I'm thinking,

624
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<v Speaker 3>what you're telling me that they're gonna they're not gonna

625
00:30:31.960 --> 00:30:34.119
<v Speaker 3>show up or they're getting promised money and they're not

626
00:30:34.160 --> 00:30:36.759
<v Speaker 3>getting paid. And I'm saying, that's not gonna happen. And

627
00:30:36.799 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>guess what happened.

628
00:30:38.920 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 14>Well, it's happened, and the thing is going forward. Take

629
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<v Speaker 14>I've always said that one of the things that's going

630
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<v Speaker 14>to be really drawing more attention to this than anything

631
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:50.799
<v Speaker 14>else is during when we get in their tournament time

632
00:30:50.920 --> 00:30:54.680
<v Speaker 14>or in their playoffs, right football, and a student athlete

633
00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:57.480
<v Speaker 14>or a group of staff student athletes will say, you

634
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<v Speaker 14>know what, we're not gonna play. We can make we're

635
00:31:01.160 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 14>we're hearing that we're getting the short end of the

636
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<v Speaker 14>stick on n money. We're not gonna play, and it's

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<v Speaker 14>gonna be something like that. I didn't ever thought that

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<v Speaker 14>was real before, but that's real.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, that happened. Let me let me ask you. You've

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<v Speaker 5>been in town.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been in town and then a number of jobs

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<v Speaker 3>in your capacity through the you know, thirty forty years now,

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<v Speaker 3>and you've been in Tucson, and I'm sure I want

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<v Speaker 3>because I want your places where you've been. Arizona goes

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<v Speaker 3>too and Oho and then they have a kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a clunker of a game, that kind of a clunker

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<v Speaker 3>of a game, and you know, the fans in this town,

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<v Speaker 3>you you witness them, you witched them. In other places,

649
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<v Speaker 3>they lose and they kind of jump ship, right, they

650
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<v Speaker 3>jump off the bandwagon. In Vegas were they like this

651
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<v Speaker 3>at Washington State were like this is this universal?

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<v Speaker 5>And I'm asking a naive question because I know the answer.

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<v Speaker 14>Steve, I really think it's universal. And you know, as

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<v Speaker 14>well as anybody. I mean, Walkcat fans are so into

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<v Speaker 14>the university and so into the Cats. But I really

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<v Speaker 14>think it's it's universal, and it's more of a disappointment.

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<v Speaker 14>And and the fact, I'll tell you what the the

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<v Speaker 14>ad right now having to do with uh uh uh

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<v Speaker 14>doctor Pepper on the on the hype train, that that

660
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<v Speaker 14>is so realistic, that hype train lever can be thrown,

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<v Speaker 14>that switch so fast and all of a sudden, everything

662
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<v Speaker 14>through an injury or through a bad game. You know,

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<v Speaker 14>I tell my grandkids all the time because of their

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<v Speaker 14>interest in tennis and in volleyball and track bearing, you

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<v Speaker 14>know everything in Steve, you know this that that's yesterday. Okay,

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<v Speaker 14>that that tennis shot or that golf shot. There's nothing

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<v Speaker 14>you can do about yesterday. That's exactly the same way

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<v Speaker 14>with with our wildcasts in football. There's nothing that we

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<v Speaker 14>can possibly do of the Kansas State game in Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 14>but we sure can about the Utah game tomorrow in

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<v Speaker 14>Salt Lake City. And I know that sounds like it's

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<v Speaker 14>over simplifying it, but I think sometimes we need to

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<v Speaker 14>think about your your direct question in terms of our fans.

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<v Speaker 14>Ever are I think that's just it's more so now

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<v Speaker 14>than it used to be. The expectation level is so

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<v Speaker 14>much higher kind of everywhere. I mean, whether it's Arizona

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<v Speaker 14>right now or Washington State's going through they've got a

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<v Speaker 14>big game and you know they're off to a great start,

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<v Speaker 14>but the expectations every it's the sky is falling in

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<v Speaker 14>when either a bad play or a bad loss or

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<v Speaker 14>a bad you know, in the elk column and the

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<v Speaker 14>loss column. And I don't know if we're going to

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<v Speaker 14>change that, in fact, if anything else. And that's in

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<v Speaker 14>the coaching profession, that's in the administration profession. See, but

685
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<v Speaker 14>things are happened so fast that I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 14>deal with a lot of that, but I had to

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<v Speaker 14>deal with some of that. Yeah, because expectations and coach

688
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<v Speaker 14>is and it's just what it is. I think it's

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<v Speaker 14>more of a societal thing than it's about than it

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<v Speaker 14>is about athletics or wins and losses. We just have

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<v Speaker 14>a hard time accepting. And you and I have talked

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<v Speaker 14>to you directly about this team. It's amazing how many

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<v Speaker 14>times we don't if we lose. It's not the fact

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<v Speaker 14>that the other team might have it might have them

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<v Speaker 14>be better, but it's the fact that we and you

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<v Speaker 14>know what everybody goes through. There's gonna be those days

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<v Speaker 14>regardless of how good you are. But isn't that true

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<v Speaker 14>a little bit? No question in fact that we talk

699
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<v Speaker 14>about we don't talk about this. The other team might

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<v Speaker 14>have just been not been their day.

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<v Speaker 5>So we were just talking about this.

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<v Speaker 14>Let me remind you that.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me remind you one or a couple of things.

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<v Speaker 3>So in ninety seven, Arizona goes on this fantastic run, right,

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<v Speaker 3>they win the NC doua A title. Who would have

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<v Speaker 3>thought it? They got it with a bunch of classmen.

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<v Speaker 3>They go back and you're thinking, okay, ninety eight, we

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<v Speaker 3>could be the first to repeat in a while. You

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<v Speaker 3>were you and you were the NC double A committee

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the time, maybe yeah. And then you

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<v Speaker 3>have this high of highs and then then they lose

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<v Speaker 3>to Utah and then you have a low of lows

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<v Speaker 3>because they had every chance to win win the next title.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's funny, and I don't know if this applied

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<v Speaker 3>to that, but I knew you were getting calls and

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<v Speaker 3>you were getting you know, everybody upset or whatever. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is kind of pre internet too, so and you

718
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<v Speaker 3>were probably getting calls like two in the morning. The

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<v Speaker 3>quality of calls were probably not that great. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>imagine had this been in the age of the internet.

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<v Speaker 14>Well, Stephen, Linda always said, you know, I thought we

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<v Speaker 14>had a private number, and you know that that and

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<v Speaker 14>that was back and then, but those kind of things

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<v Speaker 14>no emails and right then but not nearly social media. Say,

725
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<v Speaker 14>but we were at dinner last week and talking with

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<v Speaker 14>people about ninety seven what people sometimes forget, and you

727
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<v Speaker 14>were there, so you remember verbatim. See, remember we lost

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<v Speaker 14>to cal Stamford the last second of the season. Yes,

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<v Speaker 14>we were a big five seat going in. We we

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<v Speaker 14>were we were down to South Alabama, we down with

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<v Speaker 14>about three and a half minutes to go to uh

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<v Speaker 14>Eric to Eric's dad, And I mean, that could have

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<v Speaker 14>been Now it sank. Goodness it didn't because it was

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<v Speaker 14>such a spectacular end of season, but that easily could

735
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<v Speaker 14>have been one and done easily. The style of ball,

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<v Speaker 14>the salad basketball that he played during that time, they

737
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<v Speaker 14>were kid, yes, and and so it's just it's the

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<v Speaker 14>whole thing and now it's it's morphed into the kinds

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<v Speaker 14>of things. The expectations level. I remember when when we

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<v Speaker 14>first came that ninety three and so the ninety four season, uh,

741
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<v Speaker 14>you know, obviously going to the Final four. I remember

742
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<v Speaker 14>how nervous Loot was until we won that first game

743
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<v Speaker 14>in Sacramento because some spells, whether it decentate Santa Clara,

744
00:37:10.960 --> 00:37:14.320
<v Speaker 14>but it was night and day after winning that first game,

745
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<v Speaker 14>so that there was no chance to be one and done.

746
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<v Speaker 14>And Steve, I think that's the thing that's scary right now.

747
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<v Speaker 14>I hope we can get her and I mean, do

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<v Speaker 14>you mean we all of us get our census about

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<v Speaker 14>it and know, you know what, as good as teams are,

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<v Speaker 14>whether it's football, basketball or anything, there are gonna be

751
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<v Speaker 14>days when somebody else just has your number and things happen.

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<v Speaker 5>It's how you play day, Jim, how you play that day.

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<v Speaker 14>It's how you play that day. And absolutely so there's

754
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<v Speaker 14>so many factors in it. Steve, You've seen all of this,

755
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<v Speaker 14>You've written about all of this, You've seen all of this,

756
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<v Speaker 14>so you know, but this is so different in twenty

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<v Speaker 14>twenty four. And now we've got to at a great

758
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<v Speaker 14>football sitt This is a really good football team that

759
00:38:01.039 --> 00:38:05.159
<v Speaker 14>Bred has right, really good and so and tomorrow a

760
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<v Speaker 14>lot of people will peg it on. If we can't

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<v Speaker 14>beat the youths, well we certainly can, but it's going

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<v Speaker 14>to take a really good effort. And you know who knows.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, Jim, always good to talk to you. I

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<v Speaker 3>love talking to you. We'll bring up the good old days.

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<v Speaker 14>And next call at a time, Steve, thank you, have

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<v Speaker 14>a great night and a great weekend.

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<v Speaker 5>Always deployed you too.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you those Jim liven good from you of a

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<v Speaker 3>ad a longtime friend. So let's take a break. We

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<v Speaker 3>already probably over right. Yeah, you're not in your head,

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<v Speaker 3>so let's go and come back. You're an Arizona men's

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<v Speaker 3>basketball fan. You know it's been successful for nearly forty years.

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<v Speaker 3>Now take a look back at the Ludelsen era. In

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, welcome back to Iron the Ball here on Fox

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<v Speaker 3>Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with me today, Juan,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you one running the board. A good talk to

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<v Speaker 3>Jim talking about the good old days and the stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that they're going through right now. Every ad probably shivering

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<v Speaker 3>in their boots hoping that nothing bad happens. But back

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<v Speaker 3>in the day and you're a student, you know, well

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<v Speaker 3>you're being a school president.

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<v Speaker 5>Obviously he's got a lot more issues.

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<v Speaker 3>But like the shooting that happened at this Yeah, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>how worse does it get for the school? And then

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<v Speaker 3>it looks bad, It looks horribly bad, especially the situation,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you have a team. It was what seven

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<v Speaker 3>years ago yesterday, yesterday, seven to years ago, two days

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<v Speaker 3>ago the FBI probe hit u of A. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was seven years so yesterday, crazy crazy times, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It took forever to get solved, you know, four or

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<v Speaker 3>five years later, but here we are, here we are

845
00:42:09.639 --> 00:42:12.679
<v Speaker 3>and then now this uh, now this with with with

846
00:42:13.000 --> 00:42:16.360
<v Speaker 3>not the university being in trouble obviously, but just college

847
00:42:16.360 --> 00:42:17.920
<v Speaker 3>basketball really kind of screwy.

848
00:42:18.840 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, both being a president of the university and an

849
00:42:23.440 --> 00:42:25.760
<v Speaker 6>athletic director, they come with a lot of challenge. You

850
00:42:25.800 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 6>don't necessarily get a life outside of that job.

851
00:42:29.360 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 5>You get to obviously, you get to go home at night,

852
00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:33.280
<v Speaker 5>but still, it's twenty four.

853
00:42:33.519 --> 00:42:35.679
<v Speaker 6>We got to be ready, it's twenty fourthever like we

854
00:42:35.800 --> 00:42:38.320
<v Speaker 6>we think earlier this summer, we had a guess I

855
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:41.320
<v Speaker 6>think she was a former or she think she might

856
00:42:41.360 --> 00:42:45.400
<v Speaker 6>be the head guests where in school in a class

857
00:42:45.440 --> 00:42:48.159
<v Speaker 6>on the show. Okay, I can't remember who it was,

858
00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:52.280
<v Speaker 6>but she talked about how athletes they're they're a full

859
00:42:52.320 --> 00:42:52.840
<v Speaker 6>time job.

860
00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.719
<v Speaker 5>They it was a psychologists, maybe the psychologist.

861
00:42:56.719 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 6>Okay, So she talked about how she can get a

862
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.079
<v Speaker 6>clock two in the morning and she has to stop

863
00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:05.760
<v Speaker 6>a player from oh you yossibly doing something. Yeah, and

864
00:43:06.400 --> 00:43:10.599
<v Speaker 6>it's not that and you have five hundreds exactly now,

865
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:14.599
<v Speaker 6>now double that trouble that for university president. Oh yeah,

866
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:17.840
<v Speaker 6>he's not necessarily going into those specifics, but he has

867
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 6>to worry about that sure.

868
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Sure, let me ask you something. So I asked kind

869
00:43:22.239 --> 00:43:24.480
<v Speaker 3>of this indirectly to Jim. If you're a young guy

870
00:43:24.480 --> 00:43:28.559
<v Speaker 3>and you want to go into academics or administration in athletics,

871
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:32.559
<v Speaker 3>would you now given them what you see? Yes, there's

872
00:43:32.599 --> 00:43:34.440
<v Speaker 3>a price and you get a lot of money if

873
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.440
<v Speaker 3>you're good at what you do. But it's a lot

874
00:43:37.440 --> 00:43:38.239
<v Speaker 3>of bs going on.

875
00:43:38.159 --> 00:43:39.519
<v Speaker 5>And we're talking about college athletics.

876
00:43:39.559 --> 00:43:43.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I wouldn't because for the reasons, just because of

877
00:43:44.039 --> 00:43:47.480
<v Speaker 3>right now, everything's so new, everything's changing, right, maybe once

878
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 3>they get a settled, once it gets settled.

879
00:43:48.880 --> 00:43:51.679
<v Speaker 6>Once there's a plan and kind of there's history behind

880
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:52.920
<v Speaker 6>everything that's been happening.

881
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:54.760
<v Speaker 3>So tell me you think that it's going to get

882
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 3>settled and it's going to be above board eventually.

883
00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:02.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it was. It was not settled before. It was

884
00:44:02.519 --> 00:44:05.719
<v Speaker 5>never really above board. It never really yeah, never really.

885
00:44:06.519 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 6>We can get the closest to it as possible, but

886
00:44:08.920 --> 00:44:10.760
<v Speaker 6>it's never going there's always gonna have to be an

887
00:44:10.840 --> 00:44:14.079
<v Speaker 6>issue with it. There's always gonna be someone complaining, and

888
00:44:16.119 --> 00:44:17.559
<v Speaker 6>you got to get to that point where it's the

889
00:44:17.599 --> 00:44:18.280
<v Speaker 6>closest it can.

890
00:44:18.320 --> 00:44:20.400
<v Speaker 3>But that's when I joined, well, look at what we

891
00:44:20.440 --> 00:44:22.639
<v Speaker 3>have now, and I think I've said this before, maybe

892
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:26.199
<v Speaker 3>even this week where JT and and Bramlett or suing

893
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:28.559
<v Speaker 3>the university. I think it is for somebody because of

894
00:44:28.599 --> 00:44:31.559
<v Speaker 3>the name image like this from the tournament. Really well, now,

895
00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 3>I think you may have been the one from last

896
00:44:33.320 --> 00:44:36.239
<v Speaker 3>week or this week where Reggie Bush is suing the

897
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 3>university for back pay or whatever he had in name

898
00:44:39.719 --> 00:44:43.000
<v Speaker 3>image like this, And this is twenty five years ago.

899
00:44:44.480 --> 00:44:47.239
<v Speaker 3>When does it stop? When does it stop? It doesn't

900
00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.960
<v Speaker 3>right now? And how many that's just Reggie Bush. That's

901
00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:53.000
<v Speaker 3>just a couple of guys. What about the rest of them?

902
00:44:53.559 --> 00:44:55.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, there's more out there that.

903
00:44:56.719 --> 00:44:58.960
<v Speaker 6>Not to discredit anything for Reggie Bush or d T

904
00:44:59.199 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 6>or Bramily, there's other guys that have done I've been

905
00:45:02.400 --> 00:45:05.400
<v Speaker 6>more successful, I have a lot more meaning to a university.

906
00:45:05.480 --> 00:45:08.159
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that could go and do that, right right.

907
00:45:08.360 --> 00:45:11.880
<v Speaker 3>Bless my parents' hearts, they were not wealthy. Their middle

908
00:45:11.920 --> 00:45:15.920
<v Speaker 3>class even they to their pockets ran dry. And I'm

909
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:19.719
<v Speaker 3>kind of using that analogy to Arizona or athletic departments.

910
00:45:20.159 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 3>At some point you run dry. Yeah, there's only a

911
00:45:23.280 --> 00:45:25.960
<v Speaker 3>certain amount of money. And look what happened here, Arizona's

912
00:45:26.480 --> 00:45:29.679
<v Speaker 3>bone dry. Yeah, because now they have to refurbish the

913
00:45:29.719 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 3>money or replenish I should say, the money that they

914
00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:34.480
<v Speaker 3>don't have and then continue with the money that they're

915
00:45:34.519 --> 00:45:35.199
<v Speaker 3>trying to find.

916
00:45:35.039 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 5>For the future. Exactly. Yeah, not a good not a

917
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:39.119
<v Speaker 5>good time, Not a good time.

918
00:45:39.159 --> 00:45:41.360
<v Speaker 3>Hey, let me we're gonna be at We're gonna be

919
00:45:41.400 --> 00:45:45.320
<v Speaker 3>at the Del Soul on Thursday, the October tenth, and

920
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:48.480
<v Speaker 3>then again on October twenty fourth. We're excited to do that.

921
00:45:48.760 --> 00:45:51.000
<v Speaker 3>They've they've stepped up. And how are gonna help us

922
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.119
<v Speaker 3>sponsor so or help to sponsor the show? Which is

923
00:45:54.199 --> 00:45:56.920
<v Speaker 3>which is great. Uh so, we hope to see you there.

924
00:45:57.280 --> 00:46:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I have to do some promotional type of items. From

925
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.400
<v Speaker 3>the moment you first walk into Casino del Soul, you're

926
00:46:02.400 --> 00:46:05.280
<v Speaker 3>greeted by a diverse and robust selection of restaurants that

927
00:46:05.400 --> 00:46:08.280
<v Speaker 3>cater to any craving you may have, from the award

928
00:46:08.280 --> 00:46:12.920
<v Speaker 3>winning Belissimo Restaurante Taliano to the incredible variety provided by

929
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 3>the Festa International Buffet. Discover the taste of Casino del

930
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.440
<v Speaker 3>Soul during your next stop. Discovered the Soul. They have

931
00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.639
<v Speaker 3>a great poker room. That's where kind of I spend

932
00:46:22.679 --> 00:46:26.079
<v Speaker 3>my time when I go it's joined every Tuesday and Wednesday.

933
00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:29.039
<v Speaker 3>That was yesterday and two days ago or two days ago,

934
00:46:29.480 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 3>from twelve pm to twelve am for splash pots. Anytime

935
00:46:32.679 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 3>a flop is suited with spades or hearts, the next

936
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.840
<v Speaker 3>hand will be splashed fifty bucks. Les's like fifty bucks

937
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:41.119
<v Speaker 3>for free. If the entire board is suited with spades

938
00:46:41.239 --> 00:46:44.119
<v Speaker 3>or hearts, the next two hands are splashed with fifty bucks.

939
00:46:44.440 --> 00:46:45.760
<v Speaker 5>So there's a lot of things going on.

940
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, you can go to the Del Sol Sports Room

941
00:46:48.079 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 3>where a sports betning room where we will be. We'll

942
00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:53.360
<v Speaker 3>have a table there with a lot of cool stuff

943
00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:57.280
<v Speaker 3>and just come by and see us. And obviously it's

944
00:46:57.320 --> 00:46:59.400
<v Speaker 3>probably the best sports it's not probably it is the

945
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:03.400
<v Speaker 3>best sports book room in town. So yeah, give us

946
00:47:03.440 --> 00:47:05.559
<v Speaker 3>a shout out when you go there. I'll be talking

947
00:47:05.559 --> 00:47:08.679
<v Speaker 3>about a lot of that stuff here lives as we

948
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:11.239
<v Speaker 3>move forward. Okay, you'll probably be down there. We don't

949
00:47:11.239 --> 00:47:14.079
<v Speaker 3>need you guys those days. I don't think thursdays you

950
00:47:14.079 --> 00:47:16.719
<v Speaker 3>won't visure you guys can come and visit. You're twenty one, Yeah,

951
00:47:16.800 --> 00:47:19.440
<v Speaker 3>you're twenty one. You won't get thrown out, No, no,

952
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 3>of course not. I would never get thrown out of

953
00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:26.039
<v Speaker 3>any place. Yeah, because you're t shoes. That's why that's

954
00:47:26.039 --> 00:47:26.480
<v Speaker 3>a good thing.

955
00:47:26.679 --> 00:47:28.119
<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna get a shirt that says that I'm gonna

956
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:29.480
<v Speaker 6>come in with that one day. You need a hat

957
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:31.159
<v Speaker 6>and your hat. Get a hat, Get a hat and

958
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:31.559
<v Speaker 6>a shirt.

959
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:34.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I have my next hat project will be I'm

960
00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.119
<v Speaker 3>trying to find out where I can get it. So, okay,

961
00:47:37.239 --> 00:47:40.960
<v Speaker 3>anybody want to call five two four one sixty yesterday

962
00:47:41.800 --> 00:47:45.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to remember what he talked about. Uh yeah,

963
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:47.039
<v Speaker 3>Once I remember, I'll bring it up.

964
00:47:47.119 --> 00:47:48.760
<v Speaker 5>But we got a lot of calls yesterday. Gabe has

965
00:47:48.760 --> 00:47:51.159
<v Speaker 5>been calling TJ.

966
00:47:51.360 --> 00:47:54.559
<v Speaker 3>Mister money, Ta Money has been calling, so what would

967
00:47:54.559 --> 00:47:57.559
<v Speaker 3>you do? We have you have your, you have your

968
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 3>you're breaking news hearing about ten minutes.

969
00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:04.320
<v Speaker 5>Did you guys make predictions for this week for Utah?

970
00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 16>Yeah?

971
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:07.760
<v Speaker 5>I think Did you go with Utah? Yep? Did everybody

972
00:48:08.039 --> 00:48:08.400
<v Speaker 5>think so?

973
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 7>Yeah?

974
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:11.280
<v Speaker 5>I think that's the smart money, even the points.

975
00:48:11.440 --> 00:48:15.599
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, right, Jim and Jim Jim, if you want to call,

976
00:48:15.639 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 3>you can call now.

977
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:16.639
<v Speaker 14>If you're like.

978
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.320
<v Speaker 6>I think it'll be a better game than the Kansas

979
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:24.159
<v Speaker 6>State game. I thought, I do too, season, I do too.

980
00:48:24.400 --> 00:48:26.960
<v Speaker 6>I think that uh not that they've learned their lesson.

981
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 3>But I think that they they realized they're not as

982
00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 3>good as people think they are.

983
00:48:31.559 --> 00:48:33.639
<v Speaker 5>And I know the cliche is, you know, they.

984
00:48:33.519 --> 00:48:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Started to read their press clippings and they shouldn't have

985
00:48:38.159 --> 00:48:40.800
<v Speaker 3>h and but athletes do that and they're not as

986
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 3>good as you think they are. But it's it's they're

987
00:48:43.199 --> 00:48:44.719
<v Speaker 3>not as bad as you think they're and they're never

988
00:48:44.760 --> 00:48:46.679
<v Speaker 3>as good as you think they are. So there's that

989
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.400
<v Speaker 3>fine line, especially at Arizona. And you've been following for

990
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.320
<v Speaker 3>a long time, you know, you've since ten eight years old.

991
00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 5>That's always been the case. Yep, hasn't it been? Yep?

992
00:48:55.960 --> 00:48:59.480
<v Speaker 5>I mean, uh, we got a call, okay.

993
00:48:59.679 --> 00:49:02.239
<v Speaker 3>And part of that is when they think too highly

994
00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:04.519
<v Speaker 3>of themselves, that's when they really mess up. And when

995
00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.000
<v Speaker 3>they think they're low, they play out of their minds.

996
00:49:07.760 --> 00:49:09.440
<v Speaker 3>Just historically, Hey, welcome to the show.

997
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:14.400
<v Speaker 5>You're on the air. Hello, you're on the air.

998
00:49:16.719 --> 00:49:19.440
<v Speaker 16>Hi, how you doing Turn.

999
00:49:18.920 --> 00:49:22.800
<v Speaker 5>Jim, turn up that radio. It's all okay, go go.

1000
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:24.679
<v Speaker 3>We got about a couple of minutes, about two minutes,

1001
00:49:24.719 --> 00:49:25.199
<v Speaker 3>three minutes.

1002
00:49:25.320 --> 00:49:27.199
<v Speaker 16>Well, I just wanted to get my two cents in

1003
00:49:27.239 --> 00:49:31.360
<v Speaker 16>about this week's game. I think it looks like the

1004
00:49:31.400 --> 00:49:33.519
<v Speaker 16>line has moved a little bit. Do you have any.

1005
00:49:33.360 --> 00:49:33.920
<v Speaker 14>Idea what that?

1006
00:49:34.280 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 3>No, we talked about that when you first came on.

1007
00:49:36.519 --> 00:49:38.360
<v Speaker 3>It went to twelve, I think, and now it's back

1008
00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:40.159
<v Speaker 3>at like a ten. Would you have a number?

1009
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 16>And it was at eight when I looked.

1010
00:49:43.159 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 5>Glass Man, I would have given that in a heartbeat.

1011
00:49:47.280 --> 00:49:49.960
<v Speaker 16>Well, I think that would be what I would be

1012
00:49:50.039 --> 00:49:50.559
<v Speaker 16>looking for.

1013
00:49:51.159 --> 00:49:55.480
<v Speaker 17>I think this is a really an even tougher matchup

1014
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.960
<v Speaker 17>for the Wildcats this week, and it was with can

1015
00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:02.840
<v Speaker 17>the State. And you know something that needs to be

1016
00:50:03.000 --> 00:50:06.960
<v Speaker 17>made very clear. Kansas State had a very good football team.

1017
00:50:08.159 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 17>So it's not like we went and lost to you know,

1018
00:50:11.360 --> 00:50:14.559
<v Speaker 17>an alshol Ran. That's a good football team, even though

1019
00:50:16.000 --> 00:50:21.159
<v Speaker 17>they got hammered thirty eight to nine by BYU.

1020
00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:24.719
<v Speaker 3>Right, well, they looked like Arizona against Kansas State. When

1021
00:50:24.760 --> 00:50:26.840
<v Speaker 3>they played BUYU, they looked like Arizona, like they were

1022
00:50:26.880 --> 00:50:27.400
<v Speaker 3>just not there.

1023
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 16>Yeah.

1024
00:50:29.440 --> 00:50:33.679
<v Speaker 17>So the home field advantages playing out for a lot

1025
00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:37.199
<v Speaker 17>of a lot of teams, and I think that the

1026
00:50:37.239 --> 00:50:39.159
<v Speaker 17>Wildcats will probably stumble.

1027
00:50:38.800 --> 00:50:42.440
<v Speaker 16>Again this week. I did read and listen to.

1028
00:50:42.360 --> 00:50:46.599
<v Speaker 17>The coach make his comments about you know what happened

1029
00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.519
<v Speaker 17>and what didn't happen, and he was pretty upfront about

1030
00:50:49.519 --> 00:50:49.840
<v Speaker 17>all that.

1031
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Which coach was that was that?

1032
00:50:52.440 --> 00:50:52.800
<v Speaker 16>Brennan?

1033
00:50:52.920 --> 00:50:54.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh, Brennan. Okay, so you saw yesterday.

1034
00:50:54.800 --> 00:50:58.639
<v Speaker 17>Okay, there's an article on CBS Sports Line I read.

1035
00:50:59.480 --> 00:51:02.679
<v Speaker 17>So I'll give you the I'll give.

1036
00:51:02.559 --> 00:51:03.800
<v Speaker 16>You the ten points.

1037
00:51:04.079 --> 00:51:06.880
<v Speaker 5>No I ain't, no, dude, I'm looking for seventeen.

1038
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.679
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, you're.

1039
00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:12.079
<v Speaker 5>Not gonna find a sucker in me.

1040
00:51:13.960 --> 00:51:16.320
<v Speaker 16>Oh what's that about? That's the line?

1041
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.039
<v Speaker 5>Then I guess where I'm doing it.

1042
00:51:18.039 --> 00:51:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I'm doing it at the Cocito del Soul. Okay, you

1043
00:51:22.239 --> 00:51:24.000
<v Speaker 3>can give me seventeen and I'll say yes.

1044
00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:26.679
<v Speaker 14>No, we'll talk later.

1045
00:51:27.679 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 5>Oh I see there's a chance. Okay, okay, Jim, thanks.

1046
00:51:30.320 --> 00:51:30.840
<v Speaker 14>For coming up.

1047
00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:34.519
<v Speaker 17>This looks like this looks like another top tough proposition

1048
00:51:34.760 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 17>against the whole other style of lay.

1049
00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1050
00:51:37.280 --> 00:51:38.880
<v Speaker 5>No, you're right. They just got to they got to

1051
00:51:38.920 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 5>get better quickly here. Yeah.

1052
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:42.800
<v Speaker 16>Yeah, okay, thanks.

1053
00:51:43.719 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 5>I almost got seventeen.

1054
00:51:44.800 --> 00:51:47.199
<v Speaker 3>He was thinking, you'll call me later, Almos, got it

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<v Speaker 3>almost it. Would you take seventeen? Take your time, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not a test. I probably would. Yeah, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 3>I would take seventeen. I wouldn't take fifteen. They just

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<v Speaker 3>got to get better quickly. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 3>have that in them. So you were there for Brennan.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he's the one that said that, maybe expectations.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't there. Oh you weren't there.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I have to go through the thing, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>no question that the expectations have changed. Let's go, Let's

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<v Speaker 3>take a break in and come back with your breaking news.
