WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:09.560 My Billy Cunningham, the Great America. Let's continue now, and 2 00:00:09.599 --> 00:00:12.599 of course the weather's pretty good right now, but in 3 00:00:12.679 --> 00:00:14.519 the next day or two's going to have forty degree 4 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:16.960 temperatures and maybe a little bit of rain, which you need. 5 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:20.120 Then back to zero next week for three or four days. 6 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:24.000 As Notre Dame marches for glory Monday night against Ohio State. 7 00:00:24.280 --> 00:00:27.039 When I watch all the documentaries of Marcus Freeman, I 8 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:30.000 just feel like that's the guy. He converted to Catholicism. 9 00:00:30.000 --> 00:00:32.520 He's taking the boys to mass It's a wonderful thing. 10 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:36.439 But Ohio State could be unbeatable, untied, unscored on Many 11 00:00:36.439 --> 00:00:39.560 on ESPN say that Notre Dame will lose by thirty 12 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.920 or forty points to Ohio State. We'll see what happens, 13 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:44.880 but until then, as you may know, one of the 14 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:49.000 great legal think tanks in America is the Pacific Legal Foundation, 15 00:00:49.640 --> 00:00:53.039 and they have chronicled for years the failures of liberal 16 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:57.039 democratic policies that have failed every American city, including Cincinnati, 17 00:00:57.159 --> 00:01:00.719 including Austin, Texas. Chicago just named the same. And if 18 00:01:00.759 --> 00:01:03.600 the Democrats liberals are in charge for decades, there's complete 19 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:06.599 crisis in the decay happening and joining you and I 20 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.799 now is Mark Miller, Senior attorney with the Pacific Legal Foundation. 21 00:01:10.159 --> 00:01:12.480 Mark Miller, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show. And 22 00:01:12.519 --> 00:01:16.400 first of all, let's go a couple days before the mayor, 23 00:01:16.519 --> 00:01:19.560 Bass took off for Ghana to celebrate the inauguration of 24 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.719 some female executive there. She left as the Santa Ana 25 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:24.760 winds were predicted to be one hundred miles an hour. 26 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:28.200 She left as it was bone dry after two years 27 00:01:28.200 --> 00:01:30.280 of too much rain and which to fully duly grew 28 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:32.799 to a great height. In the last six months have 29 00:01:32.879 --> 00:01:35.760 been rather dry, which happens in a desert climate and 30 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:38.599 the grasslands. That's what happens. It's part of mother nature. 31 00:01:38.760 --> 00:01:41.280 So she left anyway, So Mark Miller tell us just 32 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:46.159 the regulatory requirement, the ability to open up new businesses, 33 00:01:46.200 --> 00:01:49.799 the ability to build a home. Just before this particular 34 00:01:49.959 --> 00:01:53.040 La disaster. What was it the land of milk and 35 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:54.319 honey or was it difficult? 36 00:01:55.719 --> 00:01:57.519 Well, Bill, it's great to be with you and I. 37 00:01:57.560 --> 00:01:59.920 You know, California used to be the land of no 38 00:02:00.159 --> 00:02:02.319 in honey, and it's you introduced me. You mentioned on 39 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.040 a Pacific Legal Foundation. We were founded in California when 40 00:02:05.560 --> 00:02:08.599 then Governor Ronald Reagan was sued and he said, why 41 00:02:08.599 --> 00:02:11.240 are there no conservative organizations that represent the little guy? 42 00:02:11.280 --> 00:02:12.919 And so Pacific Legal Foundation. 43 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:16.400 We remember California as the land of milk and honey, 44 00:02:16.439 --> 00:02:20.280 but unfortunately, whether it's Los Angeles or San Francisco, you know, 45 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:24.080 the regulatory state, the laws of the state, the local 46 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.960 ordinances have made it a place where people are leaving 47 00:02:26.960 --> 00:02:31.159 in drogs. And it's because of you know, examples like 48 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:31.719 the fires. 49 00:02:31.840 --> 00:02:33.560 You know, it's rare that we see such a concrete 50 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:37.560 example in our TVs every day, but so many decisions 51 00:02:37.560 --> 00:02:39.919 are made in Sacramento, in the state capital, and in 52 00:02:39.960 --> 00:02:42.840 the cities like San Francisco and Los Angeles, you know, 53 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.479 mayor baths in this case, then you can understand why. 54 00:02:45.400 --> 00:02:47.439 People are leading the state in DROs and it's just 55 00:02:47.520 --> 00:02:50.000 a tragedy to see what's happening because of the mis 56 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:51.919 management in Los Angeles and the area. 57 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:55.680 And Mark Carley, the Californians, especially the far left and 58 00:02:55.840 --> 00:03:01.000 radicals that destroyed San Francisco and Sacramento in La coined themselves. 59 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.520 They fashion themselves as caring about the environment when their 60 00:03:04.560 --> 00:03:08.520 policies have destroyed the environment. Isn't that somewhat ironic. 61 00:03:09.719 --> 00:03:13.680 It's utterly ironic, and it's entirely predictable. And this goes 62 00:03:13.719 --> 00:03:16.960 back to the environmental laws that were come up at Patched. 63 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:17.360 In the seventies. 64 00:03:17.400 --> 00:03:21.000 Unfortunately any of them other President Nixon, in fact, in 65 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:24.879 danger Species that clean water acts, where we said where 66 00:03:24.919 --> 00:03:28.639 Congress said that at any cost, no matter whatever the cost, 67 00:03:28.759 --> 00:03:30.240 we elevate the environment. 68 00:03:30.280 --> 00:03:31.960 We elevate in endangered species. 69 00:03:32.159 --> 00:03:36.680 And so instead of balancing human needs versus nature needs 70 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:40.719 and making sure humans can drive, which then allows us, 71 00:03:40.759 --> 00:03:44.280 which allows us a market to protect the environment, instead 72 00:03:44.560 --> 00:03:48.120 we put these heavy regulations, heavy restrictions on private business, 73 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:51.439 on government, on insurance markets in this case where people 74 00:03:51.479 --> 00:03:53.560 are losing their homes and their housing insurance and their 75 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:56.520 property insurance right before the fires, and we make it 76 00:03:56.560 --> 00:03:59.280 hard to get a living and we end up destroying 77 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:01.960 the environment here at the local level. 78 00:04:02.000 --> 00:04:06.000 In and Mark Millery, your column with the Pacific Legal Foundation, 79 00:04:06.120 --> 00:04:09.719 talks about President elect Trump's recent remarks about the Endangered 80 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.759 Species Act and his protections for California's smelt raise a 81 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:17.199 critical policy issue that intersects with the ability of Californias 82 00:04:17.199 --> 00:04:19.879 to make reasonable productive use of their land. It isn't 83 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:23.519 just the shmelt and the spawning. It's also the spotted 84 00:04:23.600 --> 00:04:27.079 cockroach was located somewhere and that stopped an Interstate Highway 85 00:04:27.199 --> 00:04:32.120 exit ramp. It's also a bush, literally, a shrub has 86 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:36.199 some special protection that the California's given a shrub or 87 00:04:36.240 --> 00:04:39.319 a bush because the bush serves as a site where 88 00:04:39.399 --> 00:04:43.680 hummingbirds mate. And so I'm looking at no balancing act whatsoever. 89 00:04:44.160 --> 00:04:46.519 And I read, of course I had a general bad 90 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:49.199 feeling about California. Now it's gotten worse, and that I 91 00:04:49.240 --> 00:04:51.160 had a guest on a week or so ago who's 92 00:04:51.160 --> 00:04:54.040 a home builder. Instead, it takes about five years to 93 00:04:54.079 --> 00:04:57.319 build a new home in Los Angeles County because there's 94 00:04:57.360 --> 00:05:01.800 state regulators, there's county regulators, they're city regulators. You have 95 00:05:01.879 --> 00:05:04.160 to do an environmental impact study. When you put an 96 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:07.040 addition to your home that may touch the land, you 97 00:05:07.120 --> 00:05:09.040 have to wait for months or years to get in 98 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:11.560 line to get the environmental impact study done or whether 99 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:14.560 the spotted cockroach may be affected. And God help you, 100 00:05:14.759 --> 00:05:19.360 if you locate that special bush, that special shrub somewhere 101 00:05:19.399 --> 00:05:21.920 on your property, it stops everything until you have mitigation 102 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:24.879 and so according to this home builder, he said, it 103 00:05:24.879 --> 00:05:27.959 takes three to five years to get a permit to 104 00:05:28.079 --> 00:05:31.000 build a home or add an addition to your property. 105 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:35.199 And that says nothing about the terrible regulations on businesses 106 00:05:35.240 --> 00:05:38.120 that keep them from operating. And so when your column 107 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:41.680 talks about productive use of the land, and it's a 108 00:05:41.720 --> 00:05:45.079 balancing act whether or not we should have reservoirs that 109 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:48.279 can save human life and billions of dollars, or do 110 00:05:48.360 --> 00:05:51.920 we have a spotted cockroach. Those are the options. And 111 00:05:52.120 --> 00:05:56.839 always the cockroach, the bush and the smelt beats humankind 112 00:05:57.000 --> 00:06:00.439 and causes human death. The liberal Democrats who care about 113 00:06:00.439 --> 00:06:03.279 the environment so much destroy it. And so what do 114 00:06:03.319 --> 00:06:07.839 you anticipated be different under Donald Trump when he seizes 115 00:06:07.879 --> 00:06:09.639 the presidency inaugural day. 116 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:11.279 Well, first of. 117 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.959 All, Bill, I gotta say, preach, I think everything you 118 00:06:14.040 --> 00:06:16.879 said is spot on. And what's amazing as you started 119 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:19.560 with that delta smell, that the fish in northern California, 120 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:24.040 that because of the needs that fish, we flush billions 121 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:27.199 and billions of gallons of water into the Pacific Ocean 122 00:06:27.439 --> 00:06:30.600 rather than allow that water to flow naturally to the south, 123 00:06:30.959 --> 00:06:33.439 which isn't to say President Trump when he complained about 124 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.959 the fish wasn't saying, Gee, that water would have been immediately, 125 00:06:37.120 --> 00:06:39.639 you know, put in the reservoir that was empty there 126 00:06:39.680 --> 00:06:42.720 in palace case. His point is the larger point that 127 00:06:42.759 --> 00:06:46.399 you're making that the environmental regulations that we have in 128 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.319 place the elevate environment theoretically over everything actually number one 129 00:06:50.399 --> 00:06:53.399 or counterproductive for the environment, as you said that set 130 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:57.759 out and number two don't balance these humans. And I 131 00:06:57.800 --> 00:07:00.600 think with the new administration coming in, I think you're 132 00:07:00.639 --> 00:07:03.639 going to see with any luck, what we need build 133 00:07:03.720 --> 00:07:06.639 is we don't need just regulations be written, because if 134 00:07:06.680 --> 00:07:09.160 we rewrite regulations that the next president of the next 135 00:07:09.160 --> 00:07:13.959 Democrat president can rewrite them again or executive order even worse. Yes, 136 00:07:14.040 --> 00:07:16.680 it's good for the time that Trump's in office President 137 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.040 Trump's in office, but once he's no longer in office, 138 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:22.040 if we have a Democrat in place, it could be rolled. 139 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:24.839 Backs on day one. We need laws amended. 140 00:07:24.879 --> 00:07:27.000 If we're going to keep the Clean Wator Acting place, 141 00:07:27.040 --> 00:07:29.399 we need to amend it to make it more reasonable 142 00:07:29.439 --> 00:07:32.800 and constitutional. Same thing with the Data Species Act. These 143 00:07:32.800 --> 00:07:37.439 are laws that infringe the ability to produce energy, infringe 144 00:07:37.480 --> 00:07:40.439 the ability to use your property reasonably in a way 145 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.279 that doesn't affect your neighbors and these as you said 146 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:45.800 that the homeboilder it takes five years to build. The 147 00:07:45.879 --> 00:07:48.480 regulations at the federal level and the local level are 148 00:07:48.480 --> 00:07:50.240 out lagus in terms of the way they make it 149 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:53.319 harder for us to use our own property and use 150 00:07:53.319 --> 00:07:56.680 our comperty rights, which should be a first class constitutional rights. 151 00:07:57.000 --> 00:07:59.000 That's what I think under Trump. You know, I don't 152 00:07:59.000 --> 00:08:01.399 want to be naive. He got have four years in office, 153 00:08:01.519 --> 00:08:03.639 but he does seem to have a better handle the 154 00:08:03.720 --> 00:08:06.759 second time around on what needs to happen to as 155 00:08:06.800 --> 00:08:08.360 he says, make America great again. 156 00:08:09.240 --> 00:08:11.240 I saw in one of the morning talk shows about 157 00:08:11.240 --> 00:08:16.040 California itself maybe going under complete federal control, like in 158 00:08:16.040 --> 00:08:20.199 a receivership, because California is destroyed by any fair measurement, 159 00:08:20.439 --> 00:08:23.399 it is a destroyed state with a large economy, and 160 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:26.560 I would think that the last thing the federal government. 161 00:08:26.600 --> 00:08:28.600 I'm kind of a local government kind of a guy. 162 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.120 I don't want the Feds involved in so much stuff. 163 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.919 I want to protect the border, have a great military. 164 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:37.840 Worry about trade right now. China, for example, has a 165 00:08:37.840 --> 00:08:41.320 trillion dollar surplus every year with America. They sell us 166 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.639 their goods we can't sell them that are goods completely 167 00:08:44.639 --> 00:08:47.960 out of whack. But I would hope that Nero Newsom 168 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:52.519 and Karen Bass and Adam Shiftless and Maxine Waters have 169 00:08:52.600 --> 00:08:55.480 seen the light. Maybe they've seen the Promised land and 170 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.840 that what they're doing is wrong for the environment, wrong 171 00:08:57.879 --> 00:09:01.840 for California, and getting us killed in California. But when 172 00:09:01.879 --> 00:09:04.559 I read their recent comments, it's been now a two 173 00:09:04.600 --> 00:09:09.200 weeks since the terrible wildfires, and they still smolder. I 174 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.759 have no idea. I don't think any of these gargoyles 175 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.639 from California actually understand what they've done. Do you have 176 00:09:16.679 --> 00:09:20.679 a sense that Nero Newsom and Maxine Waters and the 177 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:23.919 Karen Bess understand the folly of their decisions, how they've 178 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.879 harmed the environment, harmed the American people, and hurt their 179 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:29.639 own citizens. Is there any indication, Mark Miller, they understand 180 00:09:29.679 --> 00:09:30.519 what's going on or not. 181 00:09:31.919 --> 00:09:33.799 Well. I think what we need, Bill is we need 182 00:09:33.799 --> 00:09:36.200 the voters to send them a message that will make 183 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:40.000 them understand. And what we saw this last presidential election 184 00:09:40.600 --> 00:09:43.039 is the American voter sent the message that the four 185 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:45.759 years of President Biden, they gave him a chance. In 186 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:48.879 twenty twenty, put aside allegations that the election was stolen. 187 00:09:48.879 --> 00:09:51.039 The bottom line, as President Biden was given a chance, 188 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:53.360 and the American public said, you have failed, and so 189 00:09:53.480 --> 00:09:55.360 one in hope. So those of us who believe as 190 00:09:55.360 --> 00:09:57.879 you and I do built in the American system that 191 00:09:58.000 --> 00:10:00.360 the California voters will vote out of all off for 192 00:10:00.440 --> 00:10:03.279 people who made the terrible decisions that put the state 193 00:10:03.320 --> 00:10:05.320 where it is today. It wasn't that long ago that 194 00:10:05.399 --> 00:10:07.600 we had a governor Reagan, and they said earlier, and 195 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:11.039 we had other governor who were who had better senses 196 00:10:11.120 --> 00:10:15.039 of balance environmental needs with human needs, and so there's 197 00:10:15.080 --> 00:10:17.519 every and awful business needs, and so there's every reason 198 00:10:17.559 --> 00:10:20.679 to think the California voter can fix this. I think 199 00:10:20.720 --> 00:10:21.600 that's hilarious. 200 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:22.000 Worth four. 201 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:24.559 You have more confidence in them than I do. But 202 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:28.279 there's about one hundred billion dollars that have been spent 203 00:10:28.360 --> 00:10:31.559 by the state of California to solve homelessness. Instead of 204 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.120 solving homelessness, that money has incentivized it. So on top 205 00:10:35.159 --> 00:10:37.600 of the one hundred billion dollars that Gavin Newson will 206 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.120 not allow an audit, we now have maybe as many 207 00:10:40.159 --> 00:10:42.840 as a quarter of a million more people that are homeless. 208 00:10:43.039 --> 00:10:46.080 There's about one hundred thousand structures affected. If there's two 209 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.600 to two and a half people per home, per apartment, 210 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.480 per condo, we have two hundred and fifty thousand people 211 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.519 on top of the eighty to one hundred thousand homeless 212 00:10:54.639 --> 00:10:57.399 living on city streets looking for places to live. I 213 00:10:57.440 --> 00:11:00.559 also saw the utility representatives as morning on one of 214 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.279 the morning talk shows that talked about the fact that 215 00:11:03.759 --> 00:11:07.080 the power lines, of the water lines, the gas lines, 216 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.200 the electrical lines all must be rebuilt from the from 217 00:11:10.240 --> 00:11:12.519 the bottom to the top. I look at the wooden 218 00:11:12.519 --> 00:11:15.720 structures all over Los Angeles that can't be changed out 219 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:20.879 because of environmental concerns. You point out your in your article. 220 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.159 The California Coastal Commission, just one of many bureaucracies you 221 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:27.519 have to matriculate, has made redevelopment in areas so hard 222 00:11:27.519 --> 00:11:31.720 that many homes remain old wooden structures that caught fire 223 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:34.480 and were consumed instead of more steel and modern materials 224 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:38.240 that might have been resistant. So in Florida, where I 225 00:11:38.320 --> 00:11:42.039 have a second home, hurricanes like a big deal. So 226 00:11:42.080 --> 00:11:47.240 the hurricane forces the last twenty years, the structures have 227 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:51.039 been hardened. The utilities are underground. The building codes now 228 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:53.039 are quick. You can get things done, but you can't 229 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.840 build with certain structures. It must the windows have to 230 00:11:55.840 --> 00:11:58.480 be of a certain character. So over twenty years, when 231 00:11:58.519 --> 00:12:01.399 the hurricanes proliferated because of the nearness of people to 232 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:05.240 the ocean, the California government did not take its que 233 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:07.720 from Florida when they're working hard to make sure that 234 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.480 new structures being built over the last twenty years are 235 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.120 hurricane compliant. Over the last twenty or thirty years, as 236 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.320 California's encroached closer and closer to the Pacific Ocean and 237 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:19.879 go into canyons, have they done the same thing in 238 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:22.879 California that many governors in Florida has done there. 239 00:12:24.360 --> 00:12:26.399 Yeah, one hundred percent agree. A couple of points you make. 240 00:12:26.519 --> 00:12:29.000 Number one, I think the Florida the California comparison it 241 00:12:29.039 --> 00:12:32.960 is excellence because back in ninety eight the state of Florida, 242 00:12:33.000 --> 00:12:36.360 we elected in Florida like where your second home is, 243 00:12:36.559 --> 00:12:38.879 and we elected Jeb Bush. And we've had twenty plus 244 00:12:38.960 --> 00:12:43.320 years now twenty seven years. I suppose Republican and let's 245 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:47.519 put aside politics of just better environmental and business and 246 00:12:47.600 --> 00:12:51.440 property decisions in Florida and we've had over a corresponding 247 00:12:51.519 --> 00:12:53.440 number of years in California, and look where we are. 248 00:12:53.480 --> 00:12:56.559 When there's a hurricane, the governor governor of Santus, we 249 00:12:56.720 --> 00:12:59.159 very quickly dealt with the emergency and dealt. 250 00:12:58.919 --> 00:13:00.480 With helping people who needed help. 251 00:13:00.720 --> 00:13:03.759 It was resolved almost over night, I mean and just metaphorical, 252 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:07.240 but very quickly, as opposed to in California, where we're 253 00:13:07.240 --> 00:13:10.879 watching the entires rage on with little control by the 254 00:13:11.000 --> 00:13:14.639 humans and by the California government, and it's horrifying and 255 00:13:14.759 --> 00:13:17.600 they've put themselves there and that's why we need better 256 00:13:17.799 --> 00:13:18.559 leadership now and. 257 00:13:18.559 --> 00:13:19.240 The homeless problem. 258 00:13:19.279 --> 00:13:23.000 Wholeheartedly agree everything you're saying is about red tape, and 259 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:25.000 we just need more housing. And the way we get 260 00:13:25.000 --> 00:13:29.279 more housing is eliminate owner with its environmental restrictions, eliminate local 261 00:13:29.679 --> 00:13:32.559 overreach and zoning that just tells people, as you said, 262 00:13:32.559 --> 00:13:34.360 you have to only live in a wood house. It's 263 00:13:34.399 --> 00:13:37.120 just silly in a community that has wildfires that we're 264 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:40.120 going to insist that people can only build wood houses. 265 00:13:40.159 --> 00:13:42.360 We need to let people build what they want. Let 266 00:13:42.399 --> 00:13:46.159 people build houses that will be more protective from getting 267 00:13:46.279 --> 00:13:48.600 you from catching on fire. There's ways to do it, 268 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:51.360 but the California local governments and state governments don't let 269 00:13:51.399 --> 00:13:51.840 that happen. 270 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:53.759 Can you tell me why, Mark Miller White, is that 271 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:57.320 because it's obvious hurricanes that strike Florida are similar in 272 00:13:57.320 --> 00:14:00.440 a sense to wildfires. You know they're coming whether you 273 00:14:00.519 --> 00:14:02.960 like it or not. Wildfires have happened in California for 274 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:06.240 a thousand years. It's built in a desert, in a grassland, 275 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:09.320 and it's built to burn out the underbrush. It's built 276 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.759 to do that way. So why doesn't the state of 277 00:14:11.840 --> 00:14:14.440 California look at what Florida has done and said, you 278 00:14:14.480 --> 00:14:17.240 know what, the last twenty years are on the wrong path. 279 00:14:17.279 --> 00:14:20.159 The insurance market's another thing, Mark Miller of the Pacific 280 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:24.039 Legal Foundation. The insurance market is I heard, I read 281 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.080 that seventy percent of those who have their homes burned 282 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:29.159 out don't have adequate insurance or no insurance. That the 283 00:14:29.200 --> 00:14:32.320 avery structure in palass Park is about three and a 284 00:14:32.399 --> 00:14:35.600 half million dollars. And these people are wiped out. They 285 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.039 have nowhere to live. They don't have clothes, don't have underwear, 286 00:14:38.120 --> 00:14:41.600 don't have checkbooks, they got nothing. Their home has been pulverized. 287 00:14:42.159 --> 00:14:46.320 And the insurance market, the insurance companies leave California for 288 00:14:46.360 --> 00:14:46.879 what reason? 289 00:14:48.399 --> 00:14:51.600 Well, well, I think that your question why is California 290 00:14:51.639 --> 00:14:53.480 handle things the way they do? And it speaks to 291 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.639 the same problem we have at the federal level, which 292 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:59.720 is progressive who believe this goes back to the Wilson 293 00:14:59.759 --> 00:15:03.279 era over one hundred years versus FDR era was the 294 00:15:03.320 --> 00:15:05.639 worst example of it. But they think they know better 295 00:15:05.840 --> 00:15:08.279 for the average Americans how the average Americans to live 296 00:15:08.320 --> 00:15:10.399 their lives, and they try to control us from afar, 297 00:15:10.480 --> 00:15:13.679 whether it's in Sacramento or whether it's in DC, as 298 00:15:13.720 --> 00:15:17.559 opposed to the ability and the American ideal the city 299 00:15:17.600 --> 00:15:20.559 in a hill that we let americans design for themselves 300 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:23.159 how they're going to protect their house, let them decide 301 00:15:23.240 --> 00:15:25.720 what job they're going to have, and let the market 302 00:15:25.840 --> 00:15:26.519 figure it out. 303 00:15:26.879 --> 00:15:28.399 It's a cheaper way to handle things. 304 00:15:28.600 --> 00:15:31.600 It means less government, and those who are busy bodies 305 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:33.440 who want control insist. 306 00:15:33.200 --> 00:15:34.879 They know better for everybody else. 307 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:37.519 And unfortunately, in California, those busy bodies have been in 308 00:15:37.600 --> 00:15:40.120 charge for way too long, whether it's the California Coastal 309 00:15:40.120 --> 00:15:45.840 Commission with the fifty plus years of misrule or Sacramento. 310 00:15:46.240 --> 00:15:49.039 They think they know better for the rest of us, 311 00:15:49.039 --> 00:15:51.919 as average Americans, how to live our lives, and this 312 00:15:51.960 --> 00:15:53.799 is where we get where we are in my opinion. 313 00:15:54.000 --> 00:15:57.159 Well, lastly, I'd say this, when terrible hurricanes strike all 314 00:15:57.159 --> 00:16:01.080 over Florida, many like Tony Bender might, We'll be playing 315 00:16:01.120 --> 00:16:03.720 golf within a day or two. Once you clean up 316 00:16:03.759 --> 00:16:06.399 the golf courses, get back to life, and the hurricane 317 00:16:06.399 --> 00:16:09.639 blows through, and away you go. Tony's backshooting two under par, 318 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:12.480 and away he goes. It's okay when another strike. When 319 00:16:12.600 --> 00:16:16.320 a disaster strikes California. This morning, on one of the 320 00:16:16.399 --> 00:16:19.080 morning shows, one of these so called experts said it 321 00:16:19.080 --> 00:16:22.600 will take anywhere from eight to fifteen years to rebuild 322 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:26.000 eight to fifteen years because they don't have home builders. 323 00:16:26.360 --> 00:16:29.279 They don't have the capability of insurance. For example, if 324 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.240 when you have a home closing, the first thing the 325 00:16:31.240 --> 00:16:33.960 closing agent says, you got your policy with you, they 326 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:35.759 have to. In other words, you you can't get a 327 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.360 loan from a bank until you have insurance. And you 328 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:41.039 can't get insurance because it's too expensive because of the 329 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:44.879 policies of Democrats, and the same policies exist here in Cincinnati. 330 00:16:44.919 --> 00:16:48.320 For example, the terrible storm happened here about two weeks ago, 331 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:51.120 and the city of Cincinnati, controlled by left wing Democrats, 332 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.039 cannot have snowplows that work to take off the snow 333 00:16:54.039 --> 00:16:57.000 in the ice from city streets, and its shut down 334 00:16:57.080 --> 00:16:59.399 large parts of Cincinnati for two weeks. We have the 335 00:16:59.399 --> 00:17:02.159 same in common leadership. It's not about a particular person. 336 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:05.880 It's about the philosophy of Marxist left wing Democrats. Whether 337 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:09.440 it's Chicago, Austin, Texas, or LA or Cincinnati or New 338 00:17:09.519 --> 00:17:11.759 York City burning up in the subway, it's the same 339 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:14.599 crap going on every and every major American city. The 340 00:17:14.680 --> 00:17:18.880 Democrats have taken our opulent, magnificent urban areas and destroyed them. 341 00:17:19.160 --> 00:17:22.720 In California's the most recent example. Well, once again, Mark 342 00:17:22.759 --> 00:17:25.799 Miller of the Pacific Legal Foundation, thanks for coming on 343 00:17:25.839 --> 00:17:28.359 the Bill Cunningham Show. And if people need more information, 344 00:17:28.440 --> 00:17:29.480 what is your website? 345 00:17:30.160 --> 00:17:32.559 Yeah, check us out a Pacific Legal Org. 346 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:34.680 Thank you Bill for having me on, and Mark, you're 347 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.160 a great American. Thank you. All right, let's continue with 348 00:17:37.200 --> 00:17:41.359 more half tongue in cheek. But when terrible hurricanes predicted, 349 00:17:41.519 --> 00:17:45.039 which is the wildfires were predicted strike Florida, it's an 350 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.640 inconvenience largely, and then you build and you move on something. 351 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:52.240 Can you imagine the same hurricanes striking California, what that 352 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:55.519 would be like? It's unbelievable. The philosophy is what has 353 00:17:55.559 --> 00:17:58.200 to change. We can't even get snow off city streets 354 00:17:58.200 --> 00:18:00.960 for God's sakes. Bill Cunningham with you every day your 355 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:06.720 home of the Bengals News Radio seven hundred WW try 356 00:18:06.720 --> 00:18:08.480 Billy cunning in the Great American And I talked to 357 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:10.599 the Hall of Famer Marty Brenhman off the air briefly. 358 00:18:10.599 --> 00:18:12.599 He's going to join you and I about one five 359 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:15.279 today to talk about his remembrances of Bob Yucker, who 360 00:18:15.680 --> 00:18:20.039 spent fifty four years as the voice of the Milwaukee 361 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:24.039 Brewers Baseball Hall of Famer and local, statewide, and national icon. 362 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:27.880 He fought through many, many different ailments over his life, 363 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:31.400 and he just kept on keeping on. He had multiple 364 00:18:31.440 --> 00:18:37.079 health issues, underwent multiple heart surgery, survived pancreatic cancer as 365 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:40.559 well as a buy from a brown recluse spider, melanoma 366 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:44.039 COVID nineteen and more, and he had intended to continue 367 00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.079 with a cutback schedule, but it was not meant to 368 00:18:47.119 --> 00:18:51.319 be and so Marty will be hearing about twenty five 369 00:18:51.319 --> 00:18:54.720 minutes to talk about his remembrances of Bob Yuker, who 370 00:18:54.799 --> 00:18:58.960 was beloved. Is not really sufficiently strong to understand the 371 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:02.480 heartfelt many in Milwaukee and those related to feeling about 372 00:19:02.519 --> 00:19:04.920 the passing of Bob. Buker had a good run. Died 373 00:19:04.920 --> 00:19:07.559 at the age of ninety earlier today. We'll talk about 374 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.440 that later about a half an hour with Marty Brenneman. 375 00:19:09.799 --> 00:19:14.480 On unrelated matters, you might recall that there was an 376 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:19.480 illegal migrant, illegal immigrant, a criminal that was caught with 377 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:23.640 a blow torch walking around parts of Los Angeles. His 378 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:28.279 name is Juan Manuel Sierra and had several run ins 379 00:19:28.319 --> 00:19:31.759 with law enforcement over the past nine years in the 380 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:37.279 country illegally for nine years, committed robberies in decent exposure, 381 00:19:37.880 --> 00:19:42.720 break ins, car break ins, had about seventeen known run 382 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:46.279 ins with police in Los Angeles, and at no point 383 00:19:46.400 --> 00:19:49.440 was he deported because, as you know, Los Angeles is 384 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:53.960 a sanctuary city. California's a sanctuary state, like the city 385 00:19:53.960 --> 00:19:58.000 of Cincinnatis a sanctuary city, and so as a consequence, 386 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:00.640 he was never held account for the crimes committed here. 387 00:20:01.000 --> 00:20:03.359 And Los Angeles is damn near impossible, will be sent 388 00:20:03.720 --> 00:20:07.079 to jail and the end of the country illegally at 389 00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:10.720 some unknown location. At least I've been here since twenty sixteen, 390 00:20:12.880 --> 00:20:14.720 might have been a few years before that. How many 391 00:20:14.720 --> 00:20:17.799 crimes are actually prosecuted in Los Angeles not too many. 392 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:23.160 Noted that now on January the twelfth, Ice has put 393 00:20:23.200 --> 00:20:28.359 a detainer on Manuel because it appears he started some 394 00:20:28.440 --> 00:20:32.759 of the fires in Los Angeles, but as always, the 395 00:20:32.799 --> 00:20:36.720 city of Los Angeles doesn't honor the detainer. He's under 396 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:38.839 a fifty thousand dollars cash bond. We'll see if he 397 00:20:38.880 --> 00:20:43.920 gets out or not. And Manuel was subdued by residents 398 00:20:44.359 --> 00:20:48.119 and arrested by LAPD with a blow torch. He's an 399 00:20:48.079 --> 00:20:52.160 illegal immigrant from Mexico, and the suspect arsonists and the 400 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:55.480 LA fires is an illegal alien with a long rap sheet. 401 00:20:56.160 --> 00:21:00.759