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Speaker 1: All right, welcome in everyone. It is Monday. Full Court

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Press is back after the holiday break, Rob, you know,

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I hope everyone had a good holiday. College basketball gets

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a little bit of a break over the over over

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Christmas now, especially now that the Diamond Head Classic is

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no more so that you know, that used to be

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a nice little kind of standalone event on Christmas. They've

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done away with it. And what that means is it's

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like it's dark for like four days, but we come

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back over the weekend. Yesterday was the first really slate

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of games since Tuesday and then Rob, I was just

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talking to you off the off camera. This is a

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great Monday slate. There's way more games today than I

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kind of anticipated, and we're here to break them down.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, some conference seasons kick in, got some strange non

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conference matchups, but certainly it's extensive. I mean, the extra

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board is absolutely loaded on top of the regular boards.

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So everybody trying to get their New Year's Eve games

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in before New Year's Eve, so these kids can party

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a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, the focus from this point forward will

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be on conference play. I always find like this week,

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if you're still playing non conference games, you're usually like

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you know, like the Minnesota Fairley Dickinson games hit today

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where it's like kind of a tune up. It maybe

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just didn't fit in your schedule. You'll see some You'll

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see some like that, like Dartmouth, Florida. Those are like

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tune up games for conference play. So I tend to

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stay away from the non con in like this week

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because of I'm trying to figure out who's focused who

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is not focused. But there is a very intriguing one

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today that I've decided to make our feature game, and

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that is because Yale is historically good this season, they're

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eleven and one. They probably are kicking themselves. They probably

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think that they should could or should be twelve to oh.

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One loss was to Rhode Island in a game that

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they were a pretty big favorite. But nonetheless, Yale's eleven

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and one, and they come in with an opportunity here

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where if they were to win this game, even in

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today's NCAAA landscape where they want to do everything imaginable

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to make sure that a team like Yale has to

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win their conference tournament to get in rob if they

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somehow pulled the upset here, I think you'd have to

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consider them. I think they'd have to have a real

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case at an at large bid, but easier said than done. Right,

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seventeen point spread Yale Alabama. Do you think the Bulldogs

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have any shot tonight?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think under James Jones, you always give them

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a shot. I mean, we've seen them in NCAA tournament action,

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in some non conference action be very competitive against teams

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that maybe they weren't expected to be competitive. I think

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this game is a little bit funny, Adam, because generally,

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when I handy icap a game and feel like one

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team can make the other team uncomfortable, it's because they're

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either really good defensively or because they slow down the tempo.

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And here, I don't think Yale can make Alabama's offense

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uncomfortable at all. I don't think they do anything that's

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gonna make Alabama's offense not run high octane the way

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it always does. Where they make Alabama uncomfortable, I think

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is in their shot making and their ability to keep

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pace Alabama. We've seen Natoates a couple of times this

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year call out his team for lack of defensive effort,

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for lack of rebounding effort. Yale, certainly, albeit against a

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much much lighter schedule. I have Alabama's strength of schedule

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get rated as toughest in the country up to this point.

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Yale not quite that. In fact, the only comp game

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I found for Alabama stylistically is the Akron game, which

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Yale won ninety seven to ninety four, which shows you

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that Yale will go with a ninety four foot basketball team.

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They'll make their shots, You'll probably make theirs. I kind

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of see this thing the same way. Alabama's not going

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to be denied on the scoreboard. But I think even

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though Yale has to at this point, at this point,

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they have to come with somewhat of a reputation as

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being a pretty good mid major. But when this team

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shows up in Alabama, I don't know if the Alabama

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players see it that way. You know, they just think

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they're gonna steamroll Yale. And then you get involved in

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the game and Yale's sinking threes, and Yale's getting to

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the rim, and all of a sudden, you're in a

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high scoring, tough game. So total here one seventy five,

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when seventy five and a half, excuse me, probably appropriate

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for this contest could get above that number? We do

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see some money. And we often say on this show,

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the hour that we do this show between ten am

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and eleven am Eastern Time, we see line movement, and

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we're seeing it right now as we speak, as Alabama's

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been bet down from seventeen to only sixteen and a

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half point favorites, I can see it. I would probably

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prefer to be on the total in some way, shape

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or form. It would not surprise me if Yale was

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able to get to eighty points here their team totally

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seventy nine and a half wouldn't surprise me since Akron

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got to ninety four, that Alabama could get to ninety six.

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I think I wouldn't want to exclude either team from

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this total. So I think my lean and I haven't

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played it, and I may not play it at all,

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but I think my lean would be towards over here.

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I just think Alabama's gonna be somewhat shocked, no matter

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what Natos might tell his team, I think it gonna

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be somewhat shocked at how Yale can score the basketball.

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I don't think Alabama does enough defensively to stop them

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from doing that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what ultimately I think is going to keep me

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off of this game. So first, just from a betting standpoint,

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my number came out about where this opened. I was

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at seventeen, so seventeen and a half. I didn't see

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like a huge numerical edge on the number, you know, Rob,

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if someone's gonna you know, I want to make a

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case for like an an IVY League team against a

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team like Alabama. And I've had good luck playing Yale

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in spots like this over the years. Makes me think

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of that Auburn game in the NCAA tournament where they

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came out and won. But the concern I have for

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Yale is this, and I someone in the chat, our

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chat smartest chat in the in any of these shows,

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I'll watch some of them. What our competitors do? I

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think our chat is the smartest in terms of like

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what you know someone's all over at. Yale hasn't been

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on the road since November eleventh. Okay, a true roague game.

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They played a they played a tournament, but a true

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rogueme since November eleventh, and the two road games they

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did play were Navy and Quinnipiac. Now Quinnipiac is barely

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a road game for Yelle. It's a quick, quick, Connecticut

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trip Rob as you know very well, and also in

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that game, a Mario Monroe kind of like didn't play

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his full minutes. I feel like he was if you

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go back to like that early in the season. Of course,

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a Mario Monroe Quinnipiac big man, one of the best

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players in the matt Conference. They were lucky to keep him.

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He kind of battled an injury at times during November.

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So I went back and looked, Yale won that game

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by thirty seven. He only played like nineteen minutes. Wasn't

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a huge factor. You brought up the Akron game. That

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was a weird game because it was part of an MTE.

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like ninety seven ninety four, but one of those games

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where you know, you start to play three games, and

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I think that was a three game in four day

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type setup where it's just like, you know, the last

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day is kind of a free for all. So while

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the win over Acron is really nice win on paper,

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I have to take it with a grain of salt

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because of that. The other thing that you know, for me,

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Island's not a very good team in the A ten.

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this year in terms of like, you know, they lost

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David Green to Tulsa. I played against him a couple

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of times with like far inferior teams. I had an

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easy cover a couple of weeks ago with Canisius against

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Rhode Island. So you know, that's an outright home loss

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for Yale as a nine point favorite. I they've done

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well against what's been put in front of them so

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far this year, but they've seen nothing like Alabama yet

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and all all that, I think the whole handicap here

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is this rob how much is Alabama looking ahead to

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Kentucky this weekend because if they because if they show

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up here could very easily be a twenty point blowout.

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And they're you know, Nate Oates, I can't imagine he's

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like overly thrilled with how his team is played in

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some of these games of late. You know, they kind

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of really kind of went through the motions last week

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against Kennesaw Like that wasn't like a banner performance for them,

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even the South Florida game to give up ninety three

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to South Florida like been given up a lot of

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points lately, and you just have to wonder, like they've

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had a week off, does Nato have his team focused,

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And if they are, twenty points is not that out

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of the realm of possibility. So I pump the brakes,

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I very slightly toward Yale, but I just don't think

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I'm gonna get there with that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know for a lot of reasons

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that you listen. And I'll say one more thing about

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Yale at this point in time. I don't think Yale's

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ever intimidated by venue. Maybe the first road game in

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a while, but Yale's not one of these teams that's

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gonna go into Alabama and actually be in awe of

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the surroundings they go. James Jones coaches that team so well,

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I just think they're good. Both teams should score here,

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And of course the schedule strict of scheduled difference that

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we pointed out multiple times here is huge. And will

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Alabama's players listen to Natoates's warnings about Yale. It's sometimes

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they just don't feel like they need to be warned

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about teams and Yale's good at sneaking up on people.

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I think this one probably gets over the total of

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one seventy five and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was sitting here. I was kind of hoping

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it would move in the other direction. Maybe Alabama would

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take some money. I think if I think had this

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gotten up to like nineteen, I probably would have clicked Yale.

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But like, right, it's right there. I think the books

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did a good job. I think that's where the number

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should be. I wouldn't be surprised to see Yale competitive

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for like competitive for long stretches, and even if they

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are still sweating out that like fifteen sixteen right at

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the end, if Alabama can land the knockout punch. But

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conferences in the Northeast, it would be it would be

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awesome to see Yale compete in this game. All right,

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let's bring Garth in here, he says, thoughts on Cal

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Baptist Utah Valley. He's leading cal bat plus six and

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a half and so conference play here, the whack rob.

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I'm actually very very interested in this whack conference conference

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play this year, and the reason for that is there's

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only seven teams, So if you haven't followed along at home,

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the Whack is gonna dissolve after this year. I believe

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cal Baptist will join the Big West and then some

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of these other football schools in the Whack are going

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places like I believe they're going to make something called

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the UAC, which they've already done in college football, where

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it's like a handful of teams from the Whack, and

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it's like the football schools that are still in like

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the Atlantic Sun very odd. It's like a you know, geographically,

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they're gonna get a lot of travel in this conference,

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probably when like you know, Austin p is playing like

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Southern Utah or something like that. But that's what their football,

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as we know, rules everything, and that's what they're looking

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to go to next year. So because of this transition year,

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we've got a seven team Whack. They will get an

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auto bid to the NCAA Tournament. And the cool thing

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about this is like they're pretty they're pretty evenly matched.

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Utah Valley being the clear favorite, but the teams are

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pretty evenly matched. And some of these conference matchups are

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gonna see three times, so that's gonna be an interesting

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wrinkle that you probably haven't seen much before, is that

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you're gonna get three meetings for a lot of these

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conference games. This one's interesting to me, rob because I'm

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with Garf and the respect Garth and the respect that

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I thought that number was awfully high when it came out.

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Cal Baptist is really good, but the matchup to me

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kind of lean. I lean toward Utah Valley on the

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matchup because Don Daniels is the guy for cal Baptists,

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and when he can sort of do what he wants,

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get to the rim, take guys off the dribble, that

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cal Baptist team is really good. It is going to

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be difficult to do that against Utah Valley. They've got

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size and they can defend him in that respect. So

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I guess when I wrapped up my handicap here, I

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was like, well, number wise, cal Baptist makes a lot

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of sense, but this is not the worst matchup for

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Utah Valley, and I wouldn't be that surprised if the

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Wolverines pulled away. What are you thinking about cal Baptist

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Utah Valley anything? On Garth's side play and do you

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have anything on the total here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of days. Certainly both teams are anchored

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in defense. I think there's a slight and not even

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a slight. There's a pretty sizeable advantage offensively toward the

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Utah Valley side. The one thing that I noticed that

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and when you go through all the analytics here, is

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the turnover problems that Utah Valley has had this season,

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and if those could be created by a cal Baptist,

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you're probably getting extra possessions. And you're even closer is

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staying within the number. Obviously, money has taken the better

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part of this underdog price away from US plus nine

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down to plus six and a half already. Yeah, you've

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chewed up eight and a half, eight, seven and a half,

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seven all the way down to six and a half.

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So that's not great. My initial lean here when I

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looked at it at first, was toward total, which it

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always is, and I thought two defensive minded teams in

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a conference game probably somewhat under that's also been played

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a little bit here, one forty six and a half

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down to one forty four. There's no real edges where

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size is concerned where I think athleticism is concerned. I

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think they're both kind of somewhat equal in that respect. However,

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I would say that Utah State just based on the

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way they performed our Utah Valley excuse me, the way

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that they've performed offensively this year. It's just a drastic difference.

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And it's not an easy road trip. You know, when

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your CALBA and now you got to go up and

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play in some altitude in orm Utah. That's never an

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easy thing. You can get ground down, worn down by

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the end of the game. So a lot of things

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in favor of Utah Valley. Whi's not in their favor

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here if you're gonna play them as a favorite of

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this size is their free throw shooting hasn't been great

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this season, so you know, you miss a couple front

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ends of one and ones, the other team can stay

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within the number. If I had my choice, I probably

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would have played Baptist at the larger price. I don't

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think I could play them at this price, but I

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still think under has room. One forty four and a

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half to me, seems fairly high in a game which

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I expect the defense is to be the best units

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on the floor. So in Utah Valley real quick for

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what it's worth, in some of these games this season, defensively,

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they've shown up tenacious and I would be very very

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surprised if that wasn't the case here again tonight. So

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even if they win by margin, if they win by margin,

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that means cal bapt just hasn't probably gotten beyond sixty

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And I think under is still a solid play at

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one forty four and a half.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, both of these teams are really good defensive teams.

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Both teams can rebound like you're looking at it. So,

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just going back to like where this opened at nine

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and a half, that was shocking to me because I

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feel like, I feel like these are probably the two

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best teams in this league now. Teams like Tarlton Tarleton

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and Arlington Abilene they're not that far off from these guys.

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But like, it was a little bit shocking to me

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to see the opener of nine and a half. With

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that being said, I think where it's at now, I

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think I would lean toward playing Utah Valley minus six

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and a half because I agree that the number was off,

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but my everything about my handicap suggests that Utah Valley

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probably pulls away in this game. So the thing to

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me is like you go back to like, yes, both

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teams scrappy, both teams very good defensively, both teams can rebound.

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But Utah Vlley six and zero at home, they tend

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to play really great in this gym. And then the

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ease of which their offense flows is much easier than

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cal Baptist, right, Like, they're a great Utah Vllley this

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year rob thirteenth in the country, fifty two percent from

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the field. They generate really good looks from three, from two,

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they can get to the rim, their size plays on

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both ends of the floor. And then, like I've mentioned

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this a couple of times now, it has only come

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up once this year and it was not injury related.

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Don Daniels got suspended for a game against San Diego,

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and now they won that game, but they looked horrific

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for most of the first half, and then San Diego

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went like ten minutes in the second half without scoring

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a single point. That had far more to do with

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San Diego just having just horrific shot selection not being

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able to make a shot, than it did like cal

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Baptists being able to play without Daniels. Now have Daniels here.

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But the reason I bring that up is because in

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past years, if you've been able to well when he

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hasn't played, this Baptist team has been a mess. And

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if you can take him out of the game, and

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it's really him and like him and Daniels and Martel

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Williams are the two guys that that generate the majority

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of the offense for this cal Baptist team. If you

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can cut those guys out in any capacity, you're gonna

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have a pretty good chance to beat cal Baptist. And

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I think Utah Valley is not only equipment, not only

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are they equipped to do that, but then you throw

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in the fact where they rarely lose on this floor.

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This isn't just this year. Go back. You talked about

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the trip to Orm being a tough one, but like

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they have a really good track record in this gym.

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And now the market I think has over adjusted six

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and a half being way too low in my opinion,

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I think at the current number, I could only look

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Utah Valley. But listen, Daniels is He's arguably the best

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player in this league, So don't I wouldn't be surprised.

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If someone's going to overcome a tough matchup, it's going

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to be probably gonna be him and makes it a

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definitely a great watch. I don't think I can get

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involved there because there's just too many, you know, there's

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just again shocking to see that number where it was

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at the open.

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Speaker 2: Real quick. Here, just one last thing about playing in Utah,

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about playing in altitude, et cetera, et cetera. Cal Baptist

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has been in altitude in this state or in Colorado

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in Utah three times already. Those three times the shooting

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of cal Baptist was horrendous, especially from beyond the arc.

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Two of thirteen against Colorado, six of twenty three against

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BYU lose by thirty one, and then against Utah seven

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of twenty one. Now, the Colorado and Utah games true

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road games, true altitude, and they played them to within

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six and eight. I just I'm kind of with you

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where I feel like this is a conference matchup, So

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I can't completely equate a non conference game with Utah

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and Colorado to what the atmosphere is going to be

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like here tonight. But if you lose by six and

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eight day, you you can lose by seven here tonight

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in this particular matchup, especially if you bring Lousey shooting

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to the floor, which as we mentioned, there's a significant

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edge in how these teams shoot the basketball toward Utah Valley.

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Speaker 1: Fixer, I'm gonna hit both of your So, uh, Fixer's

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got a game, I'm gonna go to it next. But

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I also I also told the bosses I would actually

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promote the site more on the show going forward. I

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don't do it nearly enough. You know, it's it's we

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gotta we got to pay the bills somehow. H Fixer

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says Trig that five percent Sam Fran minus three NFL hit.

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Yes it did. And Rob, I just the luck I

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have in football compared to the luck I've had in

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basketball this year. It's like, I mean, you know, Caleb

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will Williams is down at the goal line. There was

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never any doubt in my mind I was getting a

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stop there with four seconds left. Yet I'll I'll find

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ways to lose every basketball game by a half point.

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I had Portland plus four and a half yesterday, gave

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up a breakaway layup with nine seconds left to lose

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by five. So you know that's the type of stuff

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that's happened. This is a roundabout way to promo. Listen,

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we've got a great year coupon, and this is the

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kind of stuff that like over the course of the year,

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over the course of every pick, in my opinion, like

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that's how you should be playing with a handicaper. Like

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I know I've pissed some people off with like bad

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hoop results, but then you know, I think I have

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to go relook in our back end. I might be

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number one in the NFL after yesterday I went to

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and oh, the point is, wager Talk gives you a

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great option to get the year at like a very

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very low rate every single play. I feel like that's

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how you kind of got to judge someone. Rob got

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to up and down ebbs and flows. Then it's like,

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you know, you can truly say like, Okay, this person

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helped me out, this person didn't. It's on both of

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our pages right now, and I think it's up for

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the rest of the year. Which year's almost done. New

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Year's Eve is Wednesday, so it's like five hundred dollars off.

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And I wanted to point that out myself. A Rob

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Rob does a million sports. Are you are you having

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that issue at all, where it's just like one is

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going extremely well and something else isn't at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it happened season to season. And

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people often ask me what's your favorite sport. I tell

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them it's college football. And it doesn't necessarily mean that

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college football is going to be your best betting sport

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every single year. It just varies from you to years.

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Some years the good results come from the NBA and

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the NFL. Some years they come from college football and

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college basketball. Right now, what's great for me is NFL

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and college basketball, and that's what's doing the job here

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providing positive results, so I do It is funny you

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say that, because there's no better feeling than knowing that

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in a clutch moment it's gonna go your way. You

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just know. Thepposite of that is miserable when you know

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you're just going to get beat somehow. But that's good

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stuff for the NFL, And like you, NFL has been

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very very kind to me. Another great day yesterday in

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NFL action, So I'm amongst the top three in that

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sport as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and when you're doing it like that,

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really they all they all cash the same like, listen,

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I'll take a I'll take a five percent NFL win

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over a three percent college basketball win any day of

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the week. But I understand the frustration if you're trying

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to just you know, grab like someone one sport and

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they're struggling in said sport, which is what I've done

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so far this year in college too. But that's why

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we're here every day, just chipping away, trying to make adjustments,

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trying to turn it around, and we will very confident

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that it'll there will be coming. Will probably come a

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point in time where I get where the luck happens

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in the other one and then you're giving up that

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goal line touchdown in football. It's just how it goes.

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Fixer I, I didn't mean to turn your question into

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a three minute like promotion, so I apologize for that.

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Let's get back to it. Fixture says Merrimac underdogs for

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Sacred Heart. Why, well, that's you know, what's the interesting

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about question or about your game. The one that you're

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bringing up is I've got question marks all over this game.

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And the reason is it is very difficult to figure

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out who is going to show up and play for

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Sacred Heart. This has been a thing with Anthony. Anthony

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Latina has been at Sacred Heart for over a decade.

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I followed this team closely ROB when they were still

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part of the NEC. They're now in the MAC, and

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it's almost like every December his teams have like three

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or four guys out. I don't know what it is.

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I don't know what you guys have in the water

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out there in Fairfield, Connecticut. But like we get to

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mid December with Sacred Heart every year they're missing like

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three key guys and some of them just like randomly

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don't play. Now I'll point out they their last game,

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most recent game was against Towson and they got blasted

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and I think they played with seven guys, which is

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which is not like Anthony Latinas teams are usually pretty deep.

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They're typically gonna go ten deep. That was like my

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thing coming into this year with Sacred Heart was I

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love their depth. So I'm not interested at Sacred Heart

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at all if they have if they're not, you know,

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if they don't have their usual depth. And in the

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Towson game, Rob, which they lost by twenty five points.

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In their most recent game for No An Kwon Hill,

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he's now been out for a couple of games. That's

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a really big deal. He's probably their best inside score,

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might be the best scorer on the team. Uh great.

478
00:25:40,279 --> 00:25:45,319
You know they've had guys like Jon Farrell didn't play

479
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,599
against Towson. That was a new one because he had

480
00:25:47,599 --> 00:25:50,079
played the Dartmouth game we talked about on this show

481
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,759
Kid's Day. Sacred Heart won that game. Pharaoh randomly didn't

482
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:58,759
didn't play against against Towson. So you know, you start

483
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:01,000
to take a couple of eyes like that out of

484
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,240
the mix, and suddenly you know this this team, because

485
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,319
this Sacred Heart team, to me, becomes less appealing. Now.

486
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:12,359
The appeal for Sacred Heart against Merrimack is the fact

487
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,079
that they can shoot it a little bit, and you

488
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,799
kind of have to shoot to beat Merrimack's zone. But

489
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,839
rob both of these teams came from the NC. Joe

490
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,359
Gallop Anthony Latina might know each other as good as

491
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:26,119
any two coaches in the country that haven't been in

492
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,400
the same league forever, right, Like they both came into

493
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,759
the MAC, They've been coaching against each other for years.

494
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:36,440
So like typically this game like goes down to the wire.

495
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,480
I'm not that surprised at where the number is even

496
00:26:41,519 --> 00:26:44,240
though even though I make Sacred Heart a bigger favorite

497
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,039
on their home court, knowing that they might show up

498
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:50,400
without anquin Hill makes me think Merrimack shouldn't be a

499
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,799
dog either. So another one, A lot of questions, couldn't

500
00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,400
find a way And how are you looking at this one,

501
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,440
Merrimack's Sacred Heart.

502
00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think the personnel problem. There are question

503
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,960
marks that you point out will taken, and obviously it

504
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,920
makes it difficult to handicap a game when you don't

505
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:07,799
know who's going to show who isn't. I know, we've

506
00:27:07,839 --> 00:27:12,559
talked about the flu running through locker rooms across the country,

507
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,559
and you just don't get the quality of injury update

508
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,519
reports from these low major schools that you would from

509
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000
let's just say a professional league. Although the NBA is

510
00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,319
tough too. They don't let me know until ten minutes

511
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,119
before tip. But it's hard to handicap that way. It's

512
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:35,200
obviously a contrast in styles. Merrimack's defense certainly makes up

513
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,079
for their lack of offense. Their slow pace. Probably you

514
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:42,279
know bothers Sacred Heart a little bit. But I will say, Adam,

515
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,279
that that game that you just talked about the eleven

516
00:27:45,319 --> 00:27:49,559
o'clock kids day where we're all, you know, screaming for anything.

517
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,319
But the game that blowout of Dartmouth was kind of

518
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,559
unexpected that date. Dartmouth I believe was taking money in

519
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,480
that game, and they get destroyed by the Sacred Heart offense.

520
00:28:00,559 --> 00:28:03,440
So I would have a hard time playing against Sacred

521
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,759
Heart here in this gym off of the loss to

522
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,400
taosand which is no shame in that loss, but thousands

523
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,720
another strictly defensive minded team and slow paced team like Merrimack,

524
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,319
which would make me a little leery of playing Sacred

525
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,400
Heart here as well as it could be the particular

526
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:25,240
style and tempo that they don't perform well against. That

527
00:28:25,319 --> 00:28:27,400
profile seemed to work last game. We'll see if it

528
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:27,880
works here.

529
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and don't listen, there's been about a week now,

530
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,400
Like don't be surprised if Sacred Heart shows up with

531
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,640
all their guys here like that that happened, you know,

532
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,440
Trevor Trevor in the chatsis Jon Farrell is active for

533
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,880
Sacred Heart today, Like he's not the one. Unfortunately, he's

534
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:45,839
not the one that moves the needle for me, like

535
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,920
a Kwan Hill being in is the one I would

536
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,559
really want to know about. But like I was at

537
00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:53,559
a Sacred Heart game like two years ago, and I

538
00:28:54,599 --> 00:28:56,480
mean I had media, I was able to get in

539
00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:59,039
there early. And Tanner Thomas was the best player on

540
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,640
the team at the time. He's now Loyola Marriormount, and

541
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,200
no one knew he was playing until he straight up

542
00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:06,440
just walked out of the locker room like ten minutes

543
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,000
before the game and like was like, yeah, I'm playing.

544
00:29:09,319 --> 00:29:14,160
Like it was like it was like completely unknown to

545
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,400
even some of the guys on the on the staff

546
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,839
that day. So it's like one of those things where

547
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,559
for whatever reason, they've been really weird with injuries and

548
00:29:22,599 --> 00:29:25,279
then like guys playing. I've also the other side of

549
00:29:25,319 --> 00:29:27,960
the coin, same guy Tanner Thomas used to be the bigger,

550
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240
biggest defender of this at Sacred Heart, where like he

551
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,359
randomly just didn't play a game. I think it was

552
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,279
like Holy Cross a couple of years ago, never a

553
00:29:36,319 --> 00:29:38,880
word about it. He was there, warmed up, just didn't play.

554
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,000
So like, you know, big big difference here for me,

555
00:29:43,079 --> 00:29:45,519
a fully healthy Sacred Heart team, I have the number

556
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:49,079
here right here in my notes. If Sacred Heart's fully healthy,

557
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:50,960
I make him three and a minus three and a

558
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,000
half here. I would take pick or minus one all

559
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:56,839
day if I knew that they had their full complement

560
00:29:56,839 --> 00:29:59,960
of players, And unfortunately I just don't know. So I'll

561
00:30:00,039 --> 00:30:03,440
a lean sacred heart. But that's that's the key there.

562
00:30:03,519 --> 00:30:06,559
And even if they're fully healthy, Joe Gallo knows that

563
00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:09,400
team as good as anyone, and don't sleep on Merrimack

564
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,680
just because they don't have Bud Clark anymore. They've they've

565
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,559
they've figured out how to work around it. They're a

566
00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:17,720
team that I think is much better than I thought

567
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,839
they were going to be with some of the guys

568
00:30:19,839 --> 00:30:22,200
they lost this year. That's a day game, so we

569
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,200
got one of the early tips in. That's a three

570
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,319
o'clock tip out your way, Robield.

571
00:30:27,359 --> 00:30:29,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. And one last thing on that, Adam. I don't

572
00:30:29,799 --> 00:30:32,599
know how much this means, but you and I, I mean,

573
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,400
I'm more mid Atlantic, you're Northeast. But these bus trips

574
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:40,680
from Massachusetts to Connecticut in the weather that we had

575
00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,640
last night that we're having today sometimes aren't easy bus rides.

576
00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:46,720
Sometimes that throws the team off a little bit too.

577
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,799
I mean it's outside the box. Obviously, it's not something

578
00:30:49,839 --> 00:30:54,400
you can put in into the handicap unless you truly

579
00:30:54,519 --> 00:30:57,359
know bus broke down team took eight hours to get there.

580
00:30:57,359 --> 00:30:59,400
But they're just not the easiest trips at this time

581
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,440
of year, whether it's been brutal here and over Mass

582
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,240
to Fairfield. Just off the top of my head, probably

583
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:11,640
somewhere in the you know, three hours bus ride type thing,

584
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,400
maybe a little more. So we'll see if that plays

585
00:31:15,559 --> 00:31:18,400
a part here. But I think if something had really happened,

586
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,359
you've just seen it in the line and real quick.

587
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,000
One last thing I wanted to mention was, as we

588
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,279
were talking the game we previously talked about went back

589
00:31:26,359 --> 00:31:29,880
up to seven seven and a half the Colbaptist game,

590
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,720
so that line is bouncing a little bit now there's

591
00:31:31,759 --> 00:31:34,200
been take back on the Utah Valley side.

592
00:31:35,599 --> 00:31:40,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great points too, And like also it's something

593
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:42,720
you want to know because like if a bus, if

594
00:31:42,759 --> 00:31:44,240
you're on a if you're going to bus to the game,

595
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:47,039
which many of these small Northeast conferences, like, I think

596
00:31:47,079 --> 00:31:48,720
that's something that a lot of the rest of the

597
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,319
country doesn't realize, is like pretty much if you're in

598
00:31:51,319 --> 00:31:53,559
one of the smaller Northeast conferences and you're playing in

599
00:31:53,599 --> 00:31:55,480
the northeast. It's always going to be a bus trip.

600
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,079
Not one hundred times out of one hundred, no one,

601
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:00,640
No one is flying anywhere in the north. It's always

602
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,359
going to be a bus trip. My driveway and road

603
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,799
is a sheet of ice right now. And if that like,

604
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:10,119
if that bus is late, it's it's It usually means

605
00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:12,480
no shoot around, right like, it usually means you miss

606
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:16,680
your your pregame sort of like walk through. You get

607
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,920
the quick warm up. I'll put the thirty minutes on

608
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,200
the clock and you'll get the quick like layup line stuff.

609
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,920
But you know, it's worth noting. I definitely think it's

610
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,680
probably worth at least a point toward the home team.

611
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,640
And it's a it's a very good point right there,

612
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:31,559
rob Right.

613
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: It's a compound it atam. It's a two o'clock in

614
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,759
the afternoon game. Yes, it's not like it's a seven

615
00:32:35,799 --> 00:32:39,039
at night game where you've got extra time to you know,

616
00:32:39,119 --> 00:32:42,640
this is quick, so yeah, we'll see.

617
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: All right, mad Max, thank you for the donation, and

618
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624
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630
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something I think some of these other shows don't do

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how anything helps, and we very much appreciate it, and

635
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:41,240
we'll get into your So another interesting sort of see

636
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:44,200
I've noticed this is like a theme of today in

637
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,440
addition to league play, it's SEC playing their their quote

638
00:33:48,519 --> 00:33:52,079
unquote tune up game ahead of league play, like starting

639
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,119
back up or starting this weekend. So you got this

640
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200
in a couple of different scenarios today, and this is

641
00:33:58,319 --> 00:34:00,519
this is one of them where you know you've got

642
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,480
the other end of the spectrum where there's a couple

643
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,920
of just like layup type games. I think Texas A

644
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,599
and M is playing a team that they're probably gonna

645
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,440
blow out, and then you've got Alabama, who maybe isn't

646
00:34:10,599 --> 00:34:12,440
a tougher game that they would have would have hoped

647
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,199
for with Yale. This is kind of the one where

648
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:19,039
it's like, Okay, Arkansas is getting a James Madison team.

649
00:34:19,039 --> 00:34:22,880
Mad Max makes a great point. JMU has fallen precipitous

650
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,960
drop from where I think everyone expected them to be

651
00:34:26,039 --> 00:34:30,519
this year. They lost to Georgia Southern. They're now outside

652
00:34:30,639 --> 00:34:34,760
I believe ken PM's top two hundred. Arkansas coming off

653
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,559
the loss to Houston no real shame in that. I mean,

654
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:42,840
there's no shame in losing that game. But you know

655
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,599
you've got a you know, you've got a scenario now

656
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,559
where I guess this would be a bounce back spot

657
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:51,639
for Arkansas coming off the Houston loss, But they also

658
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,559
have Tennessee at home on Saturday, So my gut says

659
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:58,480
it's probably a little bit more of like a sandwich

660
00:34:58,519 --> 00:35:01,679
type look ahead than a bounce back spot against the

661
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,519
James Madison team that maybe they haven't been the sort

662
00:35:04,559 --> 00:35:07,320
of Sun Belt power that we've expected them to be

663
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:11,199
this point. But like this goes back to rob it's

664
00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:14,840
almost like reset time. Teams just went home for a week.

665
00:35:15,159 --> 00:35:18,000
Now you're coming out conference player coming out of the break.

666
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,480
I tend to bump teams like James Madison who maybe

667
00:35:21,519 --> 00:35:23,960
struggled a little bit in November and December, but I

668
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,320
know that they're a pretty good team. Like I like

669
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,039
to come back with these teams around this time of year. So,

670
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,360
James Madison, Arkansas intriguing matchup? Do you have anything for

671
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:34,199
us on this one?

672
00:35:35,559 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? These are tough, like you say, Adam, because you

673
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,920
can stand on two sides of the fence and throw

674
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:47,000
arguments back and forth. To me, the Arkansas lost to

675
00:35:47,079 --> 00:35:49,920
Houston was interesting, right. They get behind in that game

676
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,400
by like twenty points in the first half, Houston destroying them,

677
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,239
and yet Arkansas is still able to go out there

678
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,559
and score eighty five points. Houston doesn't want to get

679
00:35:59,559 --> 00:36:02,360
involved in ninety four to eighty five, but Arkansas kind

680
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,400
of dictated that they were gonna get involved in ninety

681
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,079
four to eighty five, and Arkansas made their way back.

682
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:11,599
They didn't hang their heads down twenty one as I

683
00:36:11,639 --> 00:36:14,880
look here real quick, that score exactly was forty to nineteen.

684
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:18,639
At one point Houston and Arkansas made their way back.

685
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:22,119
I think the other really good point you made that

686
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:23,480
I should have brought up at the top of the

687
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:26,800
show is there is a lot of time gap between

688
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:32,119
games for these teams, and the age old question rest

689
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,000
versus RUSS. You really just don't know if rest is

690
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,400
helpful to a team, if they're going to come out

691
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:40,719
rusty in the beginning, et cetera, et cetera. When you're

692
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,800
laying twenty four and a half, certainly hope your team

693
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,480
doesn't come out rusty. But I would think Caliparri, just

694
00:36:46,559 --> 00:36:51,840
knowing his history and knowing his way of, you know,

695
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,679
basically preaching to his team, I would think they'll be

696
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,880
ready for this. I think he wants to go into

697
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,079
the SEC opener on a high note. It doesn't mean

698
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:03,320
you win by twenty five. You could win by twenty two,

699
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,280
and that's the same type of high note. But I

700
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,960
think they'll be ready. I looked at their team total

701
00:37:08,639 --> 00:37:11,599
thinking that perhaps they could. You know, James Madison doesn't

702
00:37:11,639 --> 00:37:14,079
necessarily want to go quick. Arkansas is going to force

703
00:37:14,119 --> 00:37:15,719
them to go quick if you could force Houston to

704
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,480
go quick, you force anybody to go quick. So I

705
00:37:19,599 --> 00:37:21,159
looked at their team total. It was ninety two and

706
00:37:21,199 --> 00:37:22,760
a half, just a little too high for me. It

707
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,679
was the only thing in that game that I considered

708
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,519
at all was the Arkansas team total. But for me,

709
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:30,199
it'll be a no play just because I think it's

710
00:37:30,199 --> 00:37:33,880
a shade probably too high. If I had to lean,

711
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:37,199
I would say, I think they If I had, you know,

712
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,760
to throw somebody's twenty dollars around, I'd probably throw it

713
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,920
on the Arkansas team total over. But I'm not quite

714
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,679
speaking with real conviction on that play.

715
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's you know, opener was like twenty one and

716
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,679
a half. I think this went up to twenty four,

717
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,159
maybe even twenty five someplaces. Now kind of back in

718
00:37:56,199 --> 00:37:59,320
that twenty four and a half range, I would say

719
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,960
a majority of of spots, which, like I think that

720
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:05,880
might be a tough number for Arkansas to cover. Like

721
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,119
that's it. That's an awfully big number in my opinion.

722
00:38:09,159 --> 00:38:14,320
But man, for James Madison, the game this weekend at

723
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,400
Arkansas State is so much more important than this way.

724
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:21,239
I mean, they come off like, you know, that's something

725
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,880
I think plays in this week a little bit like

726
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,599
if if if James Madison has guys that are even

727
00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:29,079
remotely on the fence side that they don't even like

728
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:31,320
although I don't know, are they going back to Arkansas

729
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,320
for a second, Like I doubt they're staying all week.

730
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,360
This is probably just a really poor sort of scheduling

731
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,239
scenario where you know, you gotta take like if if

732
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,119
Arkansas is going to have you down to cut you

733
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:42,880
a check, like you have to take it when you

734
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,199
can get it. My guess is James Madison is coming

735
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,480
down to Arkansas, going back home for the week, and

736
00:38:47,519 --> 00:38:50,639
then heading back to Arkansas where they play play a

737
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:53,679
league game in Jonesboro on Saturday. Point is like, if

738
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,320
there's guys on the fence, they're probably not even going

739
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,079
to travel to this game. Like this is a James

740
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,199
Madison team that started zero and two and sun I'll

741
00:39:00,199 --> 00:39:04,119
play that game. Saturday is massive for them. So it's like,

742
00:39:05,079 --> 00:39:06,840
you know, this is a scenario where if this game

743
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,280
was like early November, Rob, I think James Madison is

744
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,519
like real fired up to come in and play Arkansas,

745
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,920
you know, potentially like pull a huge upset here. I

746
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:21,559
think this is more like, let's get some like reps

747
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:25,239
in for Saturday because that is a much bigger game,

748
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,639
and so because of that, I'm kind of like, I

749
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,559
don't know that I want to take all these points,

750
00:39:30,599 --> 00:39:34,119
even though numerically I think there's a little bit of

751
00:39:34,159 --> 00:39:36,280
value with James Madison at the current number of twenty

752
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,000
four and a half. But I'm kind of with you.

753
00:39:39,039 --> 00:39:42,159
It's very similar to Alabama Yale in my opinion, where

754
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,559
it's like, if you get a fully focused Arkansas team here,

755
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,719
probably gonna win by thirty. You know, if they win

756
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,480
by twenty five, you're covered. I feel the same way

757
00:39:50,519 --> 00:39:53,360
about Alabama. If you get fully focused Bama, They're gonna

758
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,840
come out win by twenty. Like that's just what's gonna

759
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,719
happen in my opinion. So I guess the very round

760
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,920
about answer to mad Max question, I'll go with Rob.

761
00:40:04,039 --> 00:40:05,320
Rob thinks it could be a little bit of a

762
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,480
bounce back for Arkansas kind of focus before conference play,

763
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,719
and I'll just say if it is, they're probably covering.

764
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,320
They're probably gonna cover this number. Any sort of focus here,

765
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,960
I think Arkansas will either cover the number, and if

766
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,159
they do, would would that go hand in hand with

767
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:24,239
their team total? Rob like, if they cover, they're probably

768
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,400
going over their team total.

769
00:40:26,039 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it has to. And if I chose

770
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:29,719
me to, if I had to choose between the two,

771
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,079
I'd probably just go team total because you can still

772
00:40:32,119 --> 00:40:35,320
win that game ninety three to seventy and not get

773
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,119
the cover, but get the team total. So at that

774
00:40:38,199 --> 00:40:41,760
price tag, if I had my choice, i'd probably go

775
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Arkansas team total. Again, if you can force tempo against

776
00:40:46,039 --> 00:40:48,679
Houston Boy, you can force it against anybody. And I

777
00:40:48,679 --> 00:40:52,360
think Cali Parri probably wants to get into conference play.

778
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,360
I'm certain he doesn't want to goin off a bad performance.

779
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Garth. Here's this one's this

780
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,559
was one that I'm super interested in this game because

781
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,960
here you want to talk about big another big early

782
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,840
move that I just didn't that didn't make any sense

783
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:15,320
to me. New Orleans ut Rio Grand Valley. So he

784
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:19,440
says he likes the team total over on the New

785
00:41:19,519 --> 00:41:23,079
Orleans side, and I guess I'll leave the team total

786
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,679
part for you. What I didn't understand was why New

787
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,039
Orleans took the money that they took this morning, knocking

788
00:41:31,039 --> 00:41:33,199
this down from I think six to like three and

789
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:40,360
a half. I'm very tempted to play back at that move.

790
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,079
The only reason I haven't yet is is, you know,

791
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:47,000
with these smaller conference like south Land teams, you have

792
00:41:47,039 --> 00:41:50,599
to worry about like injuries and stuff. But I'll go

793
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,920
back to the thing I've said a couple of times

794
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,119
where it's like UTRGV. I think would have to have

795
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,840
like a number of guys out to make me worried about, like,

796
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:03,880
you know, injuries in a conference game, like I don't

797
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,199
think they have that type of injury concern coming into

798
00:42:06,199 --> 00:42:09,800
this game, Rob. I think I may have missed the

799
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,039
boat on this one. I think this was what we

800
00:42:12,199 --> 00:42:14,639
like to call a little head fake. I think North

801
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:19,039
I think New Orleans got slammed overnight. This was three

802
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,239
and a half UTRGV when I got out right before

803
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,800
I logged in to do this show with you. It's

804
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,159
now back up to five five and a half. So

805
00:42:29,199 --> 00:42:32,159
to me, like I didn't, I didn't agree with the

806
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:36,199
move at all. I would love to have UTRGV at

807
00:42:36,199 --> 00:42:39,440
home here Southland Conference game minus three and a half.

808
00:42:39,559 --> 00:42:42,280
I personally still think New Orleans is a little bit

809
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:46,320
overvalued from some of their like huge non conference results

810
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,440
that they had, of course to win over TCU believe

811
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,400
they played ment this tough. There was someone else that

812
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,239
they either beat or took to the wire, maybe Mississippi

813
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:59,960
State in non conference play. I would have to sign

814
00:43:00,119 --> 00:43:03,119
with the home team here. Man, I'm kicking myself. I

815
00:43:03,159 --> 00:43:05,159
wish I just did when that got that down, I

816
00:43:05,159 --> 00:43:06,920
should have laid the three and a half because my

817
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,760
number is like much closer to wear this open I have,

818
00:43:13,039 --> 00:43:15,239
I'll find it on my notes, But I think I

819
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,679
was at like six and a half here with the

820
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,800
Vocaros at home. So even if there's still fives out there,

821
00:43:23,079 --> 00:43:25,920
Fandel's got four and a half minus one twenty. I

822
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,599
land with the home team here and I'll leave the

823
00:43:29,599 --> 00:43:31,920
team total part to you. But yeah, I wish i'd

824
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,760
bought that dip because it just didn't make any sense

825
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,000
to me.

826
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, this one's difficult garth for me, trying to make

827
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,119
heads or tails of the New Orleans team total play.

828
00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,320
On the one hand, my initial thought would be that

829
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,719
inside the Southland so far, you've scored seventy six and

830
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:58,480
eighty four in two games. One against Houston Christian went

831
00:43:58,519 --> 00:44:01,760
against Incarnate Word. Both played on your home floor. However,

832
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,599
I don't know that that's enough to get me to

833
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:09,079
over seventy four and a half on the road against

834
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:13,440
the team that's just as good, if not better, probably

835
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,800
a little bit better Real Grand Valley. That being said,

836
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,719
I like the schedule strength that New Orleans played. You

837
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:25,239
could almost call this their conference play. You could almost

838
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:28,280
call a step down in class for them. Which when

839
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,360
you're stepping down in class and you have a set

840
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,760
of numbers side in total that is based on season

841
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,679
results so far, you can find a little bit of

842
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,360
value there which would lead me toward maybe over seventy

843
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,840
four and a half. It's an interesting game the other

844
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,679
side as well. The other side, I think the total

845
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,400
was seventy nine and a half. In fact, I'm looking

846
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,079
right now seventy nine and a half. That may be

847
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,559
a tick too high. I'm not sure, but I can't

848
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:54,800
find a real good reason guard you could tell that.

849
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,519
I make kind of a point counterpoint toward this New

850
00:44:58,599 --> 00:45:01,559
Orleans side. I don't think there's a huge advantage here

851
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,559
with them in any facet of the game other than

852
00:45:06,679 --> 00:45:09,360
they want to push and Rio grand Is, you know,

853
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,719
pretty they're fairly quick themselves. They're not ultra fast, but

854
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,800
they're fairly quick. They'll go, especially at home, I think

855
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,880
they would go up and down. So to me, it's

856
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:22,119
probably a no play. Wouldn't be surprised to either result.

857
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,880
Don't want to talk you off of anything, but just something.

858
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:27,880
I can't find a decisive edge on that New Orleans

859
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,159
team total at that price.

860
00:45:31,159 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bayu makes a really good point. They have not

861
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:37,079
New Orleans has not played since the thirteenth of December.

862
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,000
You're gonna actually fight. There's a couple of teams a

863
00:45:40,119 --> 00:45:42,079
Hawaii is another one that comes to mind that that

864
00:45:42,119 --> 00:45:45,639
are going to have massive layoffs over the holiday break.

865
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,199
New Orleans is another one. They've gone. That's that's sixteen

866
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,360
days I believe between games. It's just that it's just

867
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:55,679
not ideal in my opinion, that's not something that you see.

868
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:58,280
Some teams are going to fall into it. But like, man,

869
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,639
when you start to get more than like eight nine

870
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:04,079
days between games, like you have to think that they

871
00:46:04,119 --> 00:46:08,280
probably had like substantial time off. Who knows, maybe even

872
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:11,039
some of them got to go back home or something

873
00:46:11,039 --> 00:46:13,880
for holiday break. You know, you have sixteen days. My

874
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,760
guess is like you got some time off. You talk

875
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,440
about a team like New Orleans getting that break too,

876
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,000
I mean, this is a team that played road games

877
00:46:21,079 --> 00:46:25,880
at TCU, LSU, Tulane, Pepperdine. They went out West, played

878
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,360
Pepperdine and Fresno, Mississippi State, went to Lubbock and played

879
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,639
Texas Tech up to Memphis. Some of those are right

880
00:46:32,639 --> 00:46:35,119
in their area. But still a lot of home games,

881
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:39,639
a lot of road games. Houston before that long long layoff,

882
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,320
if you will, was another one. So again they've they've

883
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:46,360
had a ton of travel, get some time off. Like,

884
00:46:47,599 --> 00:46:49,440
you know, do they come out flat? I guess is

885
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:55,480
the question that you have to ask yourself. UTRGV. They can.

886
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,840
I mean, if they're hitting their threes, they're gonna be

887
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,760
tough to be especially on their home floor. That's kind

888
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,800
of like the thing that they've done the best this year, right,

889
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,320
like seventh in the country, rob in a three point

890
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:11,559
shooting percentage forty point four percent. I had UTRGV in

891
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:14,519
a spot a couple of weeks ago, and they it

892
00:47:14,559 --> 00:47:17,320
looked like they were gonna run Texas Arlington out of

893
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,320
the gym. They came out in the second half just

894
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,039
straight up could not hit a shot. But to just

895
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:26,440
to speak to that matchup, ut Arlington's pretty scrappy, pretty

896
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,719
good defensive team, I'm not I'm not sure New Orleans

897
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,719
is that. So because we're getting late in the show, Rob,

898
00:47:32,119 --> 00:47:36,320
I'm gonna make this my parlay Lake. I'm i really

899
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,199
upset with myself for not just like firing when this

900
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,599
was three and a half, which it wasn't for for

901
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,599
very long. Who knows, maybe it'll come back throughout the day.

902
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:47,559
Right now, you can get five. You can get Rio

903
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:51,519
Grand Valley minus five most places I'm looking. Yeah, you know,

904
00:47:51,559 --> 00:47:54,159
if you if you have the Aduel, there's a four

905
00:47:54,199 --> 00:47:55,760
and a half there, but that's that's a four and

906
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,119
a half minus one twenty, which is essentially five minus

907
00:47:58,119 --> 00:48:00,639
one ten. So like that's what I'm gonna use for

908
00:48:00,679 --> 00:48:05,840
the parlay UTRGV minus five. I just think, like you know,

909
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,000
the layoffs, sixteen days off and then they have to

910
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,199
sort of restart your season and do it on the

911
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,760
road in conference in what is likely one of the

912
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,599
more difficult like trips you have to make in the Southland.

913
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,599
My Texas geography is not great, but I'm pretty sure Edinburgh,

914
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:25,320
Texas is like down near the Mexico border, like on

915
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,719
the other side of the state. Someone can correct me.

916
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,440
On that, but point is tough road trip. UTRGV typically

917
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,320
pretty good at home, seventh in the country shooting the three.

918
00:48:35,559 --> 00:48:37,639
If New Orleans is even a little bit flat here,

919
00:48:37,679 --> 00:48:40,039
they're down ten, So I'm gonna lay it. I'll take

920
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:45,639
the Vocaros minus five. That'll be my parlay Lake And

921
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:47,400
with ten minutes left, do you have an idea of

922
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:48,760
where you want to go for the parlay?

923
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:51,039
Speaker 2: Oh? No, I'm pretty sure where I want to go

924
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:55,079
and will stay on the theme of team totals that

925
00:48:55,199 --> 00:48:57,159
was just brought up to us by Garth. But I

926
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,519
had one adam that stood out to me I thought

927
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:05,280
was I guess I would say extreme value. But Bethune

928
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:09,360
Cookman's going to play Oklahoma State tonight. Oklahoma State's number

929
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:13,400
is a relatively low ninety one and a half for

930
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,840
this game. Bethune Cookman has just been on one of

931
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,360
those ridiculously tough schedules like we talk about with Texas

932
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:26,960
Southern or any swax school all the time. But Cookman

933
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:30,960
already has given up one hundred plus points two teams

934
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,880
in the exact same wheelhouse as Oklahoma State, or just

935
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,679
upper tier teams for instance, one hundred and one to

936
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,840
Miami on the road, Miami quicker pace known for offense.

937
00:49:44,679 --> 00:49:48,960
One hundred at Indiana allowed by Bethune Cookman. Of course,

938
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,800
Indiana good offensive team this year, but again under a

939
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,960
new head coach that doesn't necessarily want to go extremely fast.

940
00:49:56,039 --> 00:49:59,320
So one hundred given up there is ridiculous. One twelfth

941
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,800
to Saint Louis, which plays a rapid style pace like Oklahoma.

942
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,880
One oh seven to Arizona, which is one of the

943
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,840
nation's best teams. Oklahoma State has going over ninety one

944
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,480
and a half six times already this season. And here's

945
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,239
here's the key for me and I always I talk

946
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,159
about these numbers quite a bit. How long does your

947
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:22,719
offensive how long is your offensive possession length? How long

948
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,679
is the other side defensive possession length. In the case

949
00:50:25,679 --> 00:50:29,719
of Bethune Cookman, they allow shots very very quickly, number

950
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,599
fifty six in the nation, fifty six fastest. Oklahoma State

951
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:35,679
wants to do nothing but go fast. They released the

952
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:39,039
ball as quick as anybody in the country. Their average

953
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:41,320
possession length is fortieth in the nation. You're going to

954
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,400
get a zillion possessions. You're going to get a Bathune

955
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,199
Cookman team that has been put through the Ringer. I

956
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:52,440
mean just this recent rash of road games played by Cookman,

957
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:54,679
Like I said, it's kind of ridiculous when you've been

958
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,920
at Missouri, at Saint Louis, at Arizona, now you're gonna

959
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:01,960
be at Oklahoma State. I just don't see how, but

960
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:04,280
Dukee Cookman has to just be worn out at this

961
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,199
point in time by from playing this type of team.

962
00:51:08,159 --> 00:51:10,119
Ninety one and a half seems too small. I think

963
00:51:10,159 --> 00:51:12,480
they probably get into the ninety five plus range here,

964
00:51:12,599 --> 00:51:16,159
So I'm gonna use Oklahoma State, excuse me, team total

965
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,960
over ninety one and a half as the my half

966
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,599
of the parlay. Yeah.

967
00:51:21,639 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you've had a tremendous beat on

968
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,000
this Oklahoma State team all year. So any listen, if

969
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,320
it's Oklahoma State related, you should listen to Rob. I

970
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,159
feel like you've come on this show and every time

971
00:51:34,159 --> 00:51:36,360
we've talked about Oklahoma State, you've been right about what

972
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,559
the outcome is going to be. There was even times

973
00:51:39,599 --> 00:51:41,320
that I feel like I was on the other side

974
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,199
and you were still right. So it's like for me,

975
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,440
like I'm not going to push back on your Oklahoma

976
00:51:45,519 --> 00:51:47,960
State assessment. I feel like that's a team that you've

977
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:51,480
had nailed this year. One thing I'll point out from

978
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,320
the Bethune Cookman side that we've kind of touched on

979
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,360
over the last couple of weeks. You know, this is

980
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,440
a team so the Swack. The Swack doesn't do the

981
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,360
early league play like a lot of these other conferences do.

982
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,199
And the main reason for that is they're you know,

983
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:07,400
all of these Swack teams for the most part, are

984
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,239
out on the road collecting the paycheck in November and December.

985
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,880
They're going in there taking their their beatings. They're getting

986
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,800
their their by game checks from Auburn, from Miami, from Dayton,

987
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,719
those those are the teams that Thune Cookman has played Indiana, Missouri,

988
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Saint Louis, Arizona. Like, but Thune Cookman's got to be like,

989
00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:30,519
f this, we really have to go to Stillwater, like

990
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:32,800
we finally get to Like they've got to be so

991
00:52:33,039 --> 00:52:36,480
focused on that home game on Saturday, Like that's got

992
00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:38,719
to be such a big deal to them to be

993
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,920
starting conference play on Saturday. The only thing that matters

994
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,559
to really matters to these Swack schools that like this

995
00:52:45,599 --> 00:52:47,639
has got to be more than a nuisance than anything.

996
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,199
I'm sure, but Dune Cookman is so sick of playing

997
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,280
these types of games. They probably can't wait to have

998
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,159
a home game against Florida A and M, which matters

999
00:52:56,199 --> 00:53:00,320
which counts on Saturday. That like, I could absolutely see

1000
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,320
them just going to Still Water and getting blasted here

1001
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,239
and not even really caring, right, just like, okay, whatever,

1002
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,280
let's be done with this, let's get the conference play.

1003
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,000
So Rob, I'm with you. What is that team total

1004
00:53:10,039 --> 00:53:10,559
again for.

1005
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 2: The people and ninety one and a half?

1006
00:53:16,159 --> 00:53:18,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you're talking about ninety one and a

1007
00:53:18,639 --> 00:53:24,039
half points. Like this feels like a triple digit scoreboard

1008
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,000
outing for for Oklahoma State if they it feels like

1009
00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:28,840
they can name the score in a game like this,

1010
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,000
at least their score. So I don't know about the spread,

1011
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,800
but it feels like if they want to score a hundred,

1012
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:37,079
they can score a hundred here, which would be lovely

1013
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:37,920
for the team total.

1014
00:53:38,639 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 2: It's actually funny that it could be more of a

1015
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,440
look ahead for Bethune Cookman than it is Oklahoma State,

1016
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,800
who opens Big twelve season with Texas Tech on the

1017
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,599
road on Saturday. So yeah, in total agreement that you know,

1018
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,519
enough is enough, but you know Texas Southern does the

1019
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:59,360
same thing. They just take these lumps every single and

1020
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,280
then when conference play comes around, Texas Southern generally is there.

1021
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,000
So maybe this is the Reggie Theis logic for Saturday.

1022
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,079
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's also just it's also just the reality

1023
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:15,920
of like college basketball at this point. Yep, listen, if

1024
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,079
you want, We're gonna get one more game before we

1025
00:54:18,159 --> 00:54:20,159
sign off. But I will say this, there's a great

1026
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,719
full court special for both of us on our page

1027
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,239
if you're if you're looking for more games, that's the

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00:54:25,239 --> 00:54:28,119
way to get them. Wager talk dot com. Check out

1029
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:31,400
our page. We each have the full court package during

1030
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,440
the week. On the weekend, we put one up that

1031
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,840
that's all of our plays. You get a ton of info.

1032
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:39,039
I'm putting full analysis out with every play. Rob's giving

1033
00:54:39,079 --> 00:54:42,079
you analysis on totals. We bet very differently, so it's

1034
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,559
a great way to do the joint one. Or if

1035
00:54:44,599 --> 00:54:47,559
you're like, hey, Triggs is colder than the Northeast right now,

1036
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,719
then go with Rob. But take advantage of that special

1037
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that that's on the page. And if if you're if you're,

1038
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,440
you know, we're gonna cover a lot more games on

1039
00:54:55,639 --> 00:54:57,840
the wager Talk site that we can get to in

1040
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,440
depth in an hour on this show, but we'll we'll

1041
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,760
wrap it up. I know Garth loves to talk about

1042
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,960
Western Kentucky. I believe he's a Western Kentucky alum. But

1043
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,679
I got my guy by you in the chat saying

1044
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,079
he likes Jacksonville State tonight and Rob, you know, I

1045
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,360
come on and kind of joke with you on the

1046
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:16,280
show because I don't. I don't do a ton of

1047
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,800
total I never bet totals. Maybe that's what I should

1048
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,440
be doing because I feel like I come on here

1049
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,760
talk about totals they do well. I think that that's

1050
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:26,559
more luck than anything. I think that's small sample size.

1051
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:29,239
If I was just great at totals, I be betting them.

1052
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:33,280
But the reason I bring that up is Western Kentucky

1053
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,239
Jacksonville State. The side is tough here. I'm not gonna

1054
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,760
go against buy you. If he likes Jacksonville State, I'll

1055
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,159
roll with him there. But this feels like it could

1056
00:55:42,159 --> 00:55:46,400
be a struggle that Jacksonville State offense kind of disjointed,

1057
00:55:46,639 --> 00:55:49,119
and then Western Kentucky sort of lives at the rim.

1058
00:55:49,159 --> 00:55:51,280
But you can't live at the rim against Jacksonville State.

1059
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,119
That's one thing they do well is defend. So I

1060
00:55:55,199 --> 00:55:59,360
believe this total got bet up and my notes, which

1061
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,559
I probably should organize better I had written down, disagree. No,

1062
00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:06,960
I'm sorry. That was a different game. This one's still

1063
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,320
one forty four and a half hasn't moved. But I

1064
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,840
kind of lean toward the under here. I think offense

1065
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:14,760
might be a struggle, especially being on the road with

1066
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,840
Western Kentucky. You know, if they can't get to the

1067
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,760
rim and they're suddenly forced to shoot jumpers. I think

1068
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,199
that's a bad recipe for the Toppers, and maybe that's

1069
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,920
why Jacksonville State is a play for Balue tonight. But

1070
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:28,159
either way, I like the under. How are you seeing

1071
00:56:28,159 --> 00:56:30,679
this one? Western Kentucky Jacksonville State.

1072
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:36,519
Speaker 2: I would probably lean the Western Kentucky side, and I

1073
00:56:36,519 --> 00:56:38,800
would look at their team total. Now, again, I gotta

1074
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,000
preface this by saying that I didn't bet the game,

1075
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,519
so these are just opinions on my part of what

1076
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,800
I think would happen here. I think Western Kentucky is

1077
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:50,079
always live. Is a team total overplay for me, no

1078
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:53,079
matter who the opponent. Just love the way they push

1079
00:56:53,159 --> 00:56:55,840
pace and you get extra possessions, et cetera, et cetera.

1080
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,199
Adam I'm gonna switch this really, really quick, just because

1081
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:03,239
I want to jam these two Missouri Valley games, Missouri

1082
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:07,559
Valley Conference games. Let's go quick, real quick. Belmont Indiana

1083
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:14,400
State tonight, huge game. You know my affection for Belmont obviously,

1084
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:18,400
when I'm not involved financially, I'm rooting for Belmont at

1085
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,840
every corner. They're two and oh in conference play already

1086
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,880
Indiana State's oh and two already, Belmont's two conference wins

1087
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:29,119
were close. They weren't blowouts like what we saw against

1088
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:32,440
Irvine the other night. And a two and oh team

1089
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,719
in conference against an oh and two home underdog, you know,

1090
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,079
that profile kind of screams Indiana State plus points. Whether

1091
00:57:39,119 --> 00:57:40,599
they get it done or not, I'm not sure, but

1092
00:57:40,639 --> 00:57:42,280
I think that's an interesting one. Then the other one,

1093
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:45,760
of course, Southern Illinois in Murray State should be an

1094
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,000
absolute barn burner. My first inclination was to take six

1095
00:57:49,039 --> 00:57:51,440
and a half with Southern Illinois, but I don't know

1096
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,159
that I want to get in front of Murray State

1097
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,800
right now. They've been so good this season. This total

1098
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,840
has been steamed from one sixty four to like six

1099
00:58:00,119 --> 00:58:03,920
eight at this point in time, So money really expecting

1100
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,880
a lot of points to be scored there. But the

1101
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,880
Missouri Valley Conference, for what it's worth, I just think

1102
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,159
it needs mentioning that those two games are absolutely worth

1103
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,239
watching tonight. And if I had my choice of the two,

1104
00:58:15,519 --> 00:58:18,239
I think I would probably look towards Indiana States just

1105
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,239
in a desperate situation here, and their losses are not

1106
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,679
bad low. I think I lost triple overtime to Bradley.

1107
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:27,440
No shame in a triple overtime loss. So they've been

1108
00:58:27,519 --> 00:58:31,320
close one side of the two games. Belmont's wins have

1109
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,199
been really close. Maybe the points are a little too

1110
00:58:34,199 --> 00:58:34,920
excessive there.

1111
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: And it's funny you bring those two up. If I

1112
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,199
had my choice of those two, I had Southern Illinois

1113
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,960
Murray State over written down with question marks. Going back

1114
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,880
to something you said. Murray State's offense has been incredible,

1115
00:58:47,159 --> 00:58:49,000
but I do think there's some path to maybe some

1116
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:51,920
path to scoring for some points there at to Southern Illinois.

1117
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,840
But yeah, I have no interest in stepping in front

1118
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,440
of Murray State right now, but I could see it,

1119
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:00,119
like if I could see there being some points in

1120
00:59:00,119 --> 00:59:02,599
that game. The only way Southern Illinois hangs around in

1121
00:59:02,639 --> 00:59:04,280
that game is if they can score a little bit,

1122
00:59:04,679 --> 00:59:08,119
so like, I just think that for me it would

1123
00:59:08,119 --> 00:59:10,000
be the over in that game. That was funny you

1124
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,760
brought that up because that was the only other The

1125
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,599
only two totals I had jotted down was under in

1126
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:19,480
Western Kentucky Jacksonville State, over in Southern Illinois Murray State.

1127
00:59:19,559 --> 00:59:22,000
So a couple of rapid fire ones at the end there.

1128
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,880
And then for the crowd that says we don't give

1129
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:25,840
out picks on this show, we always do a parlay,

1130
00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:29,039
so we're actually gonna always leave you with something. In

1131
00:59:29,079 --> 00:59:33,880
this case, my leg ut Rio Grand Valley minus five

1132
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,880
and Rob is going to go with Oklahoma State team

1133
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,559
total over ninety one and a half. Ever since we

1134
00:59:39,639 --> 00:59:41,880
dropped it down to two teamers, we've been hitting these,

1135
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,239
I believe, up over four units now on the season.

1136
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:47,360
This is another one right in that plus two sixty range,

1137
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,519
just straight up both minus one ten. So we'll go

1138
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:54,039
with that for today, see if we can cash another parlay.

1139
00:59:54,199 --> 00:59:56,039
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