WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:36.240 Oh bed that trigger Warner. This podcast may include explicit 2 00:00:36.320 --> 00:00:38.840 content that will take you out of your comfort zone 3 00:00:39.000 --> 00:00:55.560 and make you question reality. Listener's discretion is advised. Hello, 4 00:00:56.200 --> 00:00:59.280 and welcome back to the show. We are back at 5 00:00:59.320 --> 00:01:04.879 it for for work of Uncle Sam Wants Your Children, 6 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:09.840 and so we're just gonna jump right into it. Let 7 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:20.640 me get a sip. Okay, So we learned a little 8 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:24.640 bit about Frank Foxter in the last episode, and that's 9 00:01:24.640 --> 00:01:27.319 actually where we are going to pick up on. So 10 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:34.040 just a few years actually after the conviction of Frank Foxter, 11 00:01:35.359 --> 00:01:41.159 another child exploitation case surfaced in the state of fucking Florida. 12 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:44.760 And we're jumping right the fuck into this because there 13 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:46.799 is a lot of information that we need to cover 14 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:50.120 in this episode before we can move on to our 15 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:53.439 next mini series. So let's just get right into it. 16 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.200 So on February seventh, nineteen eighty seven, not long before 17 00:01:59.560 --> 00:02:03.959 the Larry King and Craig Spence operations were exposed, y'all 18 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:08.280 remember the Franklin cover up shit, the Washington Post ran 19 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:11.840 an interesting story that at the time did not seem 20 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:16.599 to have any particular national significance. The article concerned a 21 00:02:16.639 --> 00:02:21.599 case of possible kidnapping and child abuse, and read in 22 00:02:21.800 --> 00:02:28.199 part as follows here we go quote. Authorities investigating the 23 00:02:28.240 --> 00:02:32.159 alleged abuse of six children found with two men in 24 00:02:32.240 --> 00:02:37.560 a Tallahassee, Florida park discovered material yesterday in the Washington 25 00:02:37.680 --> 00:02:41.039 area that they say points to a nineteen sixties style 26 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:46.680 commune called the Finders, described in a court document as 27 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:53.759 a cult that allegedly conducted brainwashing and used children in rituals. 28 00:02:54.560 --> 00:03:00.240 DC police, who searched a northeast Washington warehouse wink to 29 00:03:00.319 --> 00:03:06.159 the group, removed large plastic bags filled with color slides, photographs, 30 00:03:06.319 --> 00:03:12.439 and photographic contact sheets. Some photos visible through a bag 31 00:03:12.759 --> 00:03:17.080 carried from the warehouse at thirteen oh seven Fourth Street, 32 00:03:17.360 --> 00:03:22.319 were wallet sized pictures of children similar to school photos, 33 00:03:22.360 --> 00:03:27.360 and some were of naked children. DC police sources said 34 00:03:27.719 --> 00:03:31.280 some of the item sees yesterday showed pictures of children 35 00:03:31.360 --> 00:03:35.599 engaged in what appeared to be cult rituals. Officials of 36 00:03:35.759 --> 00:03:40.520 the US Customs Service, called in aid in the investigation, 37 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:46.159 said that the material seized yesterday includes photos showing children 38 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:51.000 involved in blood lighting, ceremonies of animals, and one photograph 39 00:03:51.080 --> 00:03:55.599 of a child in chains. Customs officials said that they 40 00:03:55.639 --> 00:03:59.960 were looking into whether a child pornography operation was being conducted. 41 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:04.439 Their links to the DC area have led authorities into 42 00:04:04.599 --> 00:04:09.599 a far reaching investigation that includes the finders, a group 43 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:13.879 of about forty people that court documents allege is led 44 00:04:13.919 --> 00:04:19.279 by a man named Maren Petty, and their various homes, 45 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:24.199 including the duplex apartment building in Glover Park, the Northeast 46 00:04:24.319 --> 00:04:29.560 Washington warehouse, and a ninety acre farm in rural Madison County, Virginia. 47 00:04:30.360 --> 00:04:33.959 The children, identified in a court document only by the 48 00:04:34.000 --> 00:04:39.720 first names of Honeybee, John, Franklin, b B. Max, and Mary, 49 00:04:40.199 --> 00:04:46.759 were described as dirty, unkempt, hungry, disturbed, and agitated. They 50 00:04:46.800 --> 00:04:49.680 had been living in the rear of the van for 51 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:55.600 some time, the document said. Yesterday, police spokesman Hunt said 52 00:04:55.879 --> 00:04:58.759 one of the children, a six year old girl, showed 53 00:04:58.800 --> 00:05:03.319 signs of sexual abuse. Five of the children were uncommunicative, 54 00:05:03.839 --> 00:05:08.240 according to police, and none seemed to recognize objects such 55 00:05:08.279 --> 00:05:13.240 as staplers or other office supplies. However, the oldest was 56 00:05:13.319 --> 00:05:18.120 able to give investigators some information. She said that the 57 00:05:18.160 --> 00:05:23.399 two men were their teachers and before they're arrests in 58 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:27.439 the park, the two adult caretakers quote unquote had told 59 00:05:27.480 --> 00:05:31.439 police that they were teachers from Washington transporting these children 60 00:05:31.519 --> 00:05:37.000 to Mexico to a school, four brilliant children. When police 61 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:40.040 asked the men where the children's mothers were, they said 62 00:05:40.079 --> 00:05:47.160 they were being weaned from their mothers end quote. Now 63 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:58.000 we are introduced to the Fineers Club, another society that 64 00:05:58.040 --> 00:06:00.839 gets brought up all the time and mentioned all the time, 65 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:04.360 the Finders, the Finders, but nobody ever bothers to go 66 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:07.680 fucking digging for this fucking information. I'm going to put 67 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.720 it out on a platter for you so now you 68 00:06:09.720 --> 00:06:11.879 can understand what the fuck was going on with this 69 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:17.519 Finder's Club. Now, it was nearly seven fucking years before 70 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:22.800 the press revisited this Finder's case, and this seven year 71 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:27.240 follow up was being provided by US News and World 72 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:32.360 Report quote unquote, and you know, the strange saga of 73 00:06:32.439 --> 00:06:36.199 the Finders Club would have probably disappeared forever if not 74 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:39.759 for the rumors surrounding the case that would just not 75 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:47.879 go away. And these rumors were addressed in US news 76 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:53.560 and are as follows quote. One of the unresolved questions 77 00:06:53.560 --> 00:06:58.160 involves allegations that the Finders are somehow linked to the 78 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:05.439 Central Intel Legence Agency. What do you know custom Service 79 00:07:05.600 --> 00:07:10.399 documents reveal that in nineteen eighty seven, when customs agents 80 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.920 sought to examine the evidence gathered by Washington, DC Police, 81 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:19.800 they were told that the Finder's investigation had become an 82 00:07:19.839 --> 00:07:24.759 internal matter. The police report on the case had been 83 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:32.399 classified secret. Even now, Tallahassee police complained about the handling 84 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:37.240 of the Finder's investigation by DC police. They say they 85 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:41.879 dropped this case like a hot rock quote unquote. DC 86 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:46.120 Police will not comment on the matter. As for the CIA, 87 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:52.480 ranking officials describe allegations about links between the intelligence agency 88 00:07:52.680 --> 00:07:58.639 and the Finders as hogwash quote unquote, perhaps the result 89 00:07:58.800 --> 00:08:03.199 of a simple mix up with DC police. The only connection, 90 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:08.399 according to the CIA, is that a firm that provided 91 00:08:08.480 --> 00:08:13.639 computer training to CIA officers also employed several members of 92 00:08:13.680 --> 00:08:16.879 the Finders Club. And get this shit, that's an in 93 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.360 quote also employed several members of the Finders Club in quote, 94 00:08:20.600 --> 00:08:24.839 and get this it okay. The firm that supplied the 95 00:08:24.879 --> 00:08:28.639 training to the CIA officers didn't just employ several members 96 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.720 of the Finders It also appears to have, in effact, 97 00:08:33.039 --> 00:08:40.320 been a wholly owned subsidiary of the Finders organization. You 98 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:44.799 should also know that the CIA does not as a 99 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.960 general rule of thumb assign the training of its officers 100 00:08:49.000 --> 00:08:54.639 to outside contractors unless the private firm utilized in this 101 00:08:54.759 --> 00:09:01.279 capacity is a CIA front. So that that's basically saying 102 00:09:02.120 --> 00:09:10.159 that the Finders and the CIA are together. They're fucking 103 00:09:10.240 --> 00:09:15.120 each other. They're friends with benefits one and the same. 104 00:09:15.759 --> 00:09:19.840 And the Finders are fucking getting caught with kids transporting 105 00:09:19.879 --> 00:09:22.840 them and shit, having him fucking living out of vans 106 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.320 and shit kids some of them are nonverbal, don't even 107 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:34.200 know what a fucking stapler is like. Again, the CIA's 108 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:38.360 got its little hands into everything. So but anyways, in 109 00:09:38.440 --> 00:09:41.440 the last paragraph of the US News report, listen to 110 00:09:41.440 --> 00:09:47.639 this shit. Okay, here's a quote quote. The CIA's interest 111 00:09:47.720 --> 00:09:50.559 in the Finders may stem from the fact that group 112 00:09:50.679 --> 00:09:55.039 leader Marion Petty's late wife once worked for the agency 113 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:59.600 and that his son worked for a CIA proprietary firm 114 00:10:00.000 --> 00:10:07.720 called Air America. End quote. So Mare and Petty, the 115 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:13.639 leader of the Finders, his wife, and his son are CIA. Now. 116 00:10:13.720 --> 00:10:18.080 Aside from acknowledging these by then widely known in Washington 117 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:23.799 CIA connections, the US News reporters did their very best 118 00:10:23.799 --> 00:10:27.559 to bury the Finder's story once and for all, especially 119 00:10:27.639 --> 00:10:31.720 after broke aloose that the leader of the shitheads fucking 120 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:37.799 wife and son are CIA, and that they're letting some 121 00:10:38.039 --> 00:10:41.639 kind of subsidiary fucking training fucking for the CIA and 122 00:10:41.679 --> 00:10:45.480 shit like from the Finders. So now they've got to 123 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:50.679 bury all this information, right, So here's the quote. The 124 00:10:50.759 --> 00:10:53.919 case is almost seven years old now, but matters surrounding 125 00:10:54.000 --> 00:10:58.639 a mysterious group known as the Finders keeps growing curiouser 126 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:03.000 and curiouser. In early February nineteen eighty seven, an anonymous 127 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.519 tipster in Tallahassee, Florida, made a phone call to police 128 00:11:07.240 --> 00:11:12.000 two well dressed men seemed to be supervising six disheveled 129 00:11:12.039 --> 00:11:14.639 and hungry children in a local park. The caller said 130 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:18.399 the cops went after the case like bloodhounds, at least 131 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:22.840 at first. The two men were identified as members of 132 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:26.759 the Finders. They were charged with child abuse in Florida. 133 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:31.200 In Washington, d C. Police and US Customs Service agents 134 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:34.799 rated a duplex apartment building and a warehouse connected to 135 00:11:34.840 --> 00:11:40.279 the group. Among the evidence seized detailed instructions on obtaining 136 00:11:40.399 --> 00:11:44.799 children for unknown purposes and several photographs of new children. 137 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:50.039 According to a Customs Service memorandum obtained by US News, 138 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:55.639 one photo appeared to accent the child's genitals. The more 139 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:59.440 the police learned about the Finders, the more bizarre they seemed. 140 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:04.440 There were suggestions of child abuse, satanism, dealing in pornography, 141 00:12:04.559 --> 00:12:11.000 and ritualistic animal slaughter. None of these allegations was ever proved. However, 142 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.919 the child abuse charges against the two men in Tallahassee 143 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.759 were dropped. All six of the children were eventually returned 144 00:12:18.759 --> 00:12:22.799 to their mothers, though in the case of two conditions 145 00:12:22.879 --> 00:12:29.039 were attached by a court. Washington DC police began backing 146 00:12:29.080 --> 00:12:33.440 away from the Finder's investigation. The group's practices, the police said, 147 00:12:33.600 --> 00:12:40.879 were eccentric but not illegal. End quote. And this article 148 00:12:41.000 --> 00:12:45.480 closed by complaining that quote, some rumors can last an 149 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:50.759 awfully long time end quote. Indeed, motherfucker, they can so, 150 00:12:51.440 --> 00:12:54.559 even though the rumors, because that's what they're calling them, 151 00:12:54.720 --> 00:12:58.159 even though all this shit was found out, even though 152 00:12:58.159 --> 00:13:02.000 the rumors were circulated out side of the media, which 153 00:13:02.039 --> 00:13:05.120 has never again mentioned the case. By the way, that 154 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:09.360 does not mean that there was no additional information available 155 00:13:09.399 --> 00:13:13.720 on the subject, because, as the US News reporters noted 156 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:18.919 in their report, there was a certain Customs Service memorandum 157 00:13:19.080 --> 00:13:21.679 that was written at the time of the original nineteen 158 00:13:21.720 --> 00:13:26.120 eighty seven investigation, and that document was in the hands 159 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:28.720 of the news reporters at the time the story was 160 00:13:28.759 --> 00:13:32.960 being written, which should have been faithfully reported. But for 161 00:13:33.039 --> 00:13:37.480 some fucking reason, the news concluded quote none of the 162 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:43.240 allegations were ever proved end quote. But still it might 163 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.320 be nice to review the document to see what kind 164 00:13:46.360 --> 00:13:51.320 of eccentric not illegal quote unquote practices the Finders group 165 00:13:51.480 --> 00:13:55.960 was involved in it for ourselves, would it not? Well? 166 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.639 Here we go. The memo in question is actually a 167 00:14:00.679 --> 00:14:04.080 series of memos that were written by US Customs Service 168 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:11.080 agent Ramone J. Martinez, and in the officer's own words, 169 00:14:11.759 --> 00:14:15.519 this is what he observed while participating in the investigation. 170 00:14:15.799 --> 00:14:20.519 Here we go. Quote. On Thursday, February fifth, nineteen eighty seven, 171 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.519 this office was contacted via telephone by Sergeant joe Anne 172 00:14:24.639 --> 00:14:30.159 van Meeter of the Tallahassee Police Department Juvenile Division. Sergeant 173 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:34.679 van Meeter requested assistance in identifying two adult males and 174 00:14:34.799 --> 00:14:38.960 six minor children ages seven years to two years. The 175 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:45.919 adult males were tentatively identified by TPD as Michael Hulahan 176 00:14:46.200 --> 00:14:50.960 and Douglas Amherman. Both of Washington, d C. Who were 177 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:54.840 arrested the previous day on charges of child abuse. The 178 00:14:54.879 --> 00:14:58.320 police had received an anonymous phone call about two well 179 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:03.240 dressed white men wearing suits and ties in Myers Park, Tallahassee, 180 00:15:03.679 --> 00:15:08.320 apparently watching six dirty and unkempt children in the playground area. 181 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:13.000 Hulihan and Amerman were near a nineteen eighty blue Dodge 182 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:20.480 van bearing a Virginia license plate number XHW five five seven, 183 00:15:20.879 --> 00:15:25.200 the inside of which was later described as foul smelling, 184 00:15:25.679 --> 00:15:31.120 filled with maps, books, letters, and with a mattress situated 185 00:15:31.159 --> 00:15:33.440 to the rear of the van, which appeared as if 186 00:15:33.519 --> 00:15:37.600 it were used as a bed, and the overall appearance 187 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.039 of the van gave the impression that all eight persons 188 00:15:41.159 --> 00:15:44.879 were living in it. The children were covered with insect bites, 189 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:48.480 were very dirty, most of the children were not wearing 190 00:15:48.600 --> 00:15:51.840 any underwear, and all of the children had not been 191 00:15:51.879 --> 00:15:56.559 bathed in what appeared to be weeks. The men were 192 00:15:56.679 --> 00:16:00.159 arrested and charged with multiple counts of child abuse and 193 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:04.440 lodged in the Leon County Jail. Once in custody, the 194 00:16:04.519 --> 00:16:07.720 men were somewhat evasive in their answers to the police 195 00:16:08.200 --> 00:16:12.679 regarding the children and stated only that they both were 196 00:16:12.720 --> 00:16:17.200 the children's teachers and that they were all en route 197 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:21.679 to Mexico to establish a school for brilliant children end quote. 198 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:30.519 So holy fuck shit. They were caught red handed, right 199 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:36.039 transporting children that hadn't taken a bath in weeks, living 200 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:41.600 out of a van, couldn't nonverbal children? Where did they 201 00:16:41.600 --> 00:16:49.480 get them? So US Customs was contacted because the police 202 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:53.879 officers involved suspected the adults of being involved in child pornography. Hello, 203 00:16:54.240 --> 00:16:56.879 that should be obvious, and they knew the Custom Service 204 00:16:57.279 --> 00:17:00.480 to not only have a network of child pornography investing gators, 205 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:05.119 but also the child Pornography and Protection Unit. So this 206 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:09.319 agent crete Lao stated the two adults were well dressed, 207 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:14.599 white males. They had custody of six children, white boys 208 00:17:14.599 --> 00:17:18.480 and girls, ages three to six years old. The children 209 00:17:18.480 --> 00:17:22.400 were observed to be poorly dressed, bruised, dirty bug bites 210 00:17:22.440 --> 00:17:25.960 all over their bodies, behaving like wild animals in a 211 00:17:26.000 --> 00:17:30.000 public park in Tallahassee, and so Agent crete Lao was 212 00:17:30.319 --> 00:17:36.599 further advised that the children were unaware of the function 213 00:17:36.720 --> 00:17:39.680 and purpose of telephones. They didn't know what TVs were, 214 00:17:39.759 --> 00:17:42.119 they didn't know how to use toilets, and that the 215 00:17:42.200 --> 00:17:45.519 children had stated they were not allowed to live indoors 216 00:17:45.880 --> 00:17:50.960 and were given food as a reward. Now get this shit. 217 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:56.160 A Detective Bradley had initiated an investigation on the two 218 00:17:56.200 --> 00:18:00.880 addresses provided by the Tallahassee Police Department in December of 219 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:05.519 nineteen eighty six because it turns out an informant had 220 00:18:05.559 --> 00:18:10.480 given him information regarding a cult known as the Finders, 221 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:16.039 operating various businesses out of a warehouse located at thirteen 222 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:20.039 oh seven Fourth Street Northeast and were supposed to be 223 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:25.799 housing children at thirty nine to eighteen West Street, Northwest. 224 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:29.640 Those addresses sound bizarre to me, but that's what it was. 225 00:18:29.960 --> 00:18:34.680 So the information was specific in describing blood rituals and 226 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:39.839 sexual orgies involving children, and an unsolved murder in which 227 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:44.799 the Finders may be involved. So, with the information provided 228 00:18:44.839 --> 00:18:48.000 by the informant, Detective Bradley was able to match some 229 00:18:48.079 --> 00:18:52.240 of the children in Tallahassee with names of children known 230 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:57.039 or alleged to be in the custody of the fucking Finders. Also, 231 00:18:57.599 --> 00:19:01.920 Detective Bradley was able to match the tentative idea of 232 00:19:01.960 --> 00:19:07.720 the adults with known members of the Finders. So Bradley 233 00:19:07.839 --> 00:19:11.799 consulted with a member of the Association of the United 234 00:19:11.799 --> 00:19:16.200 States Army. His name was Henry Binner, and obtained search 235 00:19:16.240 --> 00:19:22.519 warrants for the two premises. A team went to thirteen 236 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:26.039 oh seven four Street and to thirty nine to eighteen 237 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:32.279 West Street, whatever and during the execution of the warrant 238 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:36.680 at thirty nine eighteen West Street, an agent was able 239 00:19:36.720 --> 00:19:41.839 to observe and access the entire building. There were several 240 00:19:41.920 --> 00:19:45.319 subjects on the premises, only one was deemed to be 241 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:48.839 connected with the Finders. He was located in a room 242 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:56.039 equipped with several computers, printers, and numerous documents. Cursory examination 243 00:19:56.200 --> 00:20:00.519 of the documents revealed detailed instructions for obtaining children for 244 00:20:00.680 --> 00:20:08.200 unspecified purposes. The instructions included the impregnation of female members 245 00:20:08.200 --> 00:20:14.720 of the Finders, purchasing children, trading and kidnapping children. It 246 00:20:14.759 --> 00:20:20.720 was essentially kidnap uh purchase or trading children for dummies. 247 00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.240 There were also messages with account numbers found on a computer. 248 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:29.880 One such message specifically ordered the purchase of two children 249 00:20:30.000 --> 00:20:32.799 in Hong Kong, to be arranged through a contact in 250 00:20:32.839 --> 00:20:38.519 the Chinese embassy. There. Another message expressed interest in bank 251 00:20:38.839 --> 00:20:45.279 secrecy quote unquote situations. Other documents identified interests in transfers 252 00:20:45.319 --> 00:20:49.480 to the United Kingdom, numerous properties under the control of 253 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:54.400 the Finders, a keen interest in terrorism, explosives, and the 254 00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:58.079 evasion of law enforcement. These were all documents found in 255 00:20:58.160 --> 00:21:02.160 this computer room. Also found in the computer room was 256 00:21:02.319 --> 00:21:05.799 a detailed summary of the events surrounding the arrest and 257 00:21:06.680 --> 00:21:10.559 taking into custody of the two adults and six children 258 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:14.279 in Tallahassee the previous night. There was also a set 259 00:21:14.359 --> 00:21:18.319 of instructions which appeared to be broadcast via a computer network, 260 00:21:18.359 --> 00:21:23.039 which advised the participants to quote move the children in 261 00:21:23.200 --> 00:21:28.440 quote and keep them moving through different jurisdictions, and instructions 262 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:32.960 on how to avoid police attention. Agents were also able 263 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:38.160 to observe numerous documents which described explicit sexual conduct between 264 00:21:38.279 --> 00:21:43.119 the members of the community known as the Finders. They 265 00:21:43.160 --> 00:21:48.079 saw a large collection of photographs of unidentified persons. Some 266 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:52.000 of the photographs were nudes believed to be members of 267 00:21:52.039 --> 00:21:56.720 the Finders. There were numerous photos of children, some nude, 268 00:21:57.200 --> 00:21:59.359 at least one of which was a photo of a 269 00:21:59.440 --> 00:22:05.319 child on display and appeared to accent the child's genitals. 270 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:10.240 One of the officers was presented with a photo album 271 00:22:10.279 --> 00:22:14.480 for a review. The album contained a series of photos 272 00:22:14.519 --> 00:22:19.039 of adults and children dressed in white sheets participating in 273 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:24.039 a blood ritual. The rituals centered around the execution of 274 00:22:24.119 --> 00:22:30.039 at least two goats. The photos portrayed the execution, disembowment, skinning, 275 00:22:30.240 --> 00:22:33.400 and dismemberment of the goats at the hands of the children, 276 00:22:34.799 --> 00:22:38.799 and this included the removal of the testes of a 277 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:43.160 male goat, the discovery of a female goat's womb and 278 00:22:43.279 --> 00:22:49.079 the baby goats inside the womb, and the presentation of 279 00:22:49.119 --> 00:22:53.440 a goat's head to one of the children. So so 280 00:22:53.640 --> 00:22:59.160 much for the Finders Club being what did they say? 281 00:22:59.279 --> 00:23:03.839 Eccentric but not illegal? What does that sound like to you? 282 00:23:04.640 --> 00:23:10.400 So Further inspection of the premises disclosed numerous files relating 283 00:23:10.440 --> 00:23:14.480 to activities of the organization in different parts of the world. 284 00:23:15.359 --> 00:23:22.720 Locations were observed in London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, 285 00:23:22.920 --> 00:23:28.119 Costa Rica and Europe. There was also a file identified 286 00:23:28.279 --> 00:23:34.000 as Palestinian. Other files were identified by member name or 287 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:39.480 project name. The projects appearing to be operated for commercial 288 00:23:39.519 --> 00:23:43.359 purposes under front names for the Finders. There was one 289 00:23:43.440 --> 00:23:48.880 file entitled Pentagon break In, and others referring to members 290 00:23:48.920 --> 00:23:54.039 operating in foreign countries. There were even intelligence files on 291 00:23:54.200 --> 00:23:58.920 private families not related to the Finders. It also appeared 292 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:03.920 the Finders took in in local newspaper advertisements for babysitters, 293 00:24:04.000 --> 00:24:08.640 tutors and the like, which is really fucking interesting. So 294 00:24:08.880 --> 00:24:11.839 apparently a member of the Finders would respond to these 295 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.200 ads and gather as much information as possible about the 296 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.599 family who posted the ad. The use to which this 297 00:24:18.759 --> 00:24:24.960 information was being put is still unknown, but honestly super interesting. 298 00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.160 There was also a large amount of data collected on 299 00:24:29.359 --> 00:24:35.079 various childcare organizations. Now. They also found that the warehouse 300 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:39.480 contained a large library, two kitchens, a sauna, a hot tub, 301 00:24:39.640 --> 00:24:44.359 and a video room quote unquote. The video room seemed 302 00:24:44.359 --> 00:24:48.039 to be set up as like this indoctrination center. It 303 00:24:48.119 --> 00:24:52.279 also appeared that the organization had the capability to produce 304 00:24:52.400 --> 00:24:57.640 its own videos. There were what appeared to be training 305 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:01.039 areas for children in what appeared to be an altar 306 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:06.359 set up in a residential area of the warehouse. Many 307 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:10.359 jars of get this shit here we go again, urine 308 00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:14.559 and feces were located in that area. Back to the 309 00:25:14.599 --> 00:25:20.079 fucking piss and shit, But so needless to say, contrary 310 00:25:20.119 --> 00:25:27.359 to the claims of the US News, running an international 311 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:32.759 terrorist organization specializing in the trafficking of children is definitely 312 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:39.480 more than just fucking eccentric, unless the organization doing the 313 00:25:39.559 --> 00:25:47.759 trafficking is run by the goddamned CIA, right an actually 314 00:25:47.880 --> 00:25:51.920 group leader, Maren Petty, you shed additional light on his 315 00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:55.079 connections to the CIA in an interview with This steam 316 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:59.160 Shovel Press in nineteen ninety eight. Recounting the history of 317 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:04.759 his group, Petty had this to say, quote, going back 318 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.839 to World War Two, I kept an open house mainly 319 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:14.839 to intelligence people in Washington, oss people passing through things 320 00:26:15.000 --> 00:26:20.880 like that. In quote, Petty was not an intelligence asset himself, 321 00:26:20.920 --> 00:26:24.519 though in fact he spent his entire life serving as 322 00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:30.680 a counter spy. As a private citizen, he has taken 323 00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:36.480 on the job of monitoring the CIA. As for his wife, 324 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.240 Petty claims that he sent her quote in as a 325 00:26:41.279 --> 00:26:44.559 spy to spy on the CIA for me. She was 326 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:47.079 very happy about it, happy to tell me everything she 327 00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:50.960 found out. She was in a key place, you know, 328 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:54.160 with the records and stuff and she could find out 329 00:26:54.400 --> 00:26:59.680 anything I wanted in quote ain't that nice? I mean 330 00:26:59.799 --> 00:27:03.839 the same probably applies to Petty Son too, And Petty 331 00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:08.079 sums up his relationship with the CIA by acknowledging that 332 00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:12.960 there quote are some connections, but not to me personally 333 00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:20.559 end quote. Interestingly enough, though, for a group that claimed 334 00:27:20.799 --> 00:27:26.559 no direct connection to the Central Intelligence Agency, they obviously 335 00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:32.240 had very powerful people within that community protecting it, As 336 00:27:32.319 --> 00:27:37.799 the final Custom Service memo reveals, here we go quote. 337 00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:42.720 On Thursday February fifth, nineteen eighty seven, Senior Special Agent 338 00:27:42.799 --> 00:27:47.400 Harold and I assisted the Washington d C. Metropolitan Police 339 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:52.920 Department with two search warrants involving the possible sexual exploitation 340 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:57.200 of children. During the course of the search warrants, numerous 341 00:27:57.240 --> 00:28:02.240 documents were discovered which appeared to be concerned with international 342 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:06.839 trafficking and children, high tech transfer to the United Kingdom, 343 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:12.000 and international transfer of currency. On March thirty first, nineteen 344 00:28:12.039 --> 00:28:16.000 eighty seven, I contacted Detective Jim Bradley of the Washington 345 00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:20.799 d C. Metropolitan Police Department. I was to meet with 346 00:28:20.920 --> 00:28:25.799 Detective Bradley to review the documents seized pursuant to two 347 00:28:25.920 --> 00:28:31.359 search warrants executed in January nineteen eighty seven. The meeting 348 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:35.160 was to take place on April second or third, nineteen 349 00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:39.359 eighty seven. On April second, nineteen eighty seven, I arrived 350 00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:44.759 at MPD at approximately nine am. Detective Bradley was not available. 351 00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.160 I spoke to a third party who was willing to 352 00:28:48.160 --> 00:28:51.400 discuss the case with me on a strictly off the 353 00:28:51.440 --> 00:28:56.680 record basis. I was advised that all the passport data 354 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.000 had been turned over to the State Department for their investigation. 355 00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:05.400 The State Department intern advised the NPD that all travel 356 00:29:05.519 --> 00:29:08.079 and use of the passports by the holders of the 357 00:29:08.079 --> 00:29:12.079 passports was within the law and no action would be taken. 358 00:29:12.640 --> 00:29:16.599 This included travel to Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam 359 00:29:16.799 --> 00:29:20.480 from the late nineteen fifties to mid nineteen seventies. The 360 00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:24.640 individual further advised me of circumstances which indicated that the 361 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.839 investigation into the activity of the Finders Club had become 362 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:34.680 a CIA internal matter. The MPD report had been classified 363 00:29:34.799 --> 00:29:38.640 secret and was not available for review. I was advised 364 00:29:38.680 --> 00:29:42.680 that the FBI had withdrawn from the investigation several weeks prior, 365 00:29:43.400 --> 00:29:48.599 and that the FBI Foreign counter Intelligence Division had directed 366 00:29:48.880 --> 00:29:53.920 MPD not to advise the FBI Washington Field Office of 367 00:29:54.039 --> 00:29:59.920 anything that had transpired in quote, So the Finders RBA 368 00:30:00.200 --> 00:30:04.839 protected from on high and the initial arrest of the 369 00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:09.640 Finders in Tallahassee went almost completely unnoticed by the media. 370 00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:15.200 So did another arrest in that same state in August 371 00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:20.519 two thousand. So here we go. The arrested man was 372 00:30:20.720 --> 00:30:27.200 Wayne Kamalie, and the charges were operating an online child 373 00:30:27.200 --> 00:30:32.480 pornography site. The Los Angeles Times reported that the West 374 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:36.200 Palm Beach home in which Kamalie was arrested, not unlike 375 00:30:36.240 --> 00:30:40.119 the Finders van, was filled with so much rotting garbage, 376 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:45.039 trash and catshit that the agents had to borrow oxygen 377 00:30:45.119 --> 00:30:49.759 masks and hazardous material suits from the county fire department 378 00:30:50.000 --> 00:30:56.480 just to carry out the search. Fucking catshit anyways. Ceased 379 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:01.160 in the raid were numerous videotapes and a computer. But 380 00:31:01.240 --> 00:31:05.720 what makes Kamalie's arrest of significance here is that, as 381 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:12.720 the Times reported, it was initiated by police quote investigating 382 00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:18.480 Belgian's most notorious pedophile murder case end quote. Mm hmm. 383 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.440 Do you want to take a guess who Komalie is 384 00:31:22.839 --> 00:31:29.039 linked to? Well, it seems that Kamalie had close connections 385 00:31:29.079 --> 00:31:34.599 to a douche packer named Felix Dconic, a suspect in 386 00:31:34.680 --> 00:31:38.400 the kidnapping and molestation of a fourteen year old girl, 387 00:31:39.559 --> 00:31:44.160 and Deconic, as it turns out, had direct links to 388 00:31:44.480 --> 00:31:49.240 Mark Dutro. Look at that, everyone, It's a full circle moment, 389 00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:52.160 don't you just love those? And so here we are. 390 00:31:52.519 --> 00:31:56.359 We end up right back where we began with the 391 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:04.240 case of the Belgian beast. How in connection with two 392 00:32:04.400 --> 00:32:11.079 other pedophiles that end up in this investigation with the Finders. 393 00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:16.480 So the brief Times report closed with these words. Quote. 394 00:32:17.079 --> 00:32:21.359 US officials couldn't elaborate on the connections between Deconic and 395 00:32:21.480 --> 00:32:24.960 du Troux, but said they were part of the same 396 00:32:25.079 --> 00:32:30.359 child pornography, molestation and murder investigation end quote. Oh boy. 397 00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:37.000 So it is highly unlikely that anyone will ever revisit 398 00:32:37.039 --> 00:32:41.599 the case of Wayne Camalie. Even the La Times article 399 00:32:41.720 --> 00:32:46.480 quickly disappeared from the newspapers online archives, and as with 400 00:32:46.640 --> 00:32:49.480 so many other cases, the final words of the US 401 00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:54.599