WEBVTT 1 00:00:06.839 --> 00:00:17.239 Get ready, hey, hey, tenth day of October twenty twenty five, allegedly, 2 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:19.800 according to that thing we call a calendar, this the 3 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:24.320 o'celli effect, you listening to it, and probably in podcast 4 00:00:24.440 --> 00:00:26.839 form because not many people listen to the live show anymore. 5 00:00:26.879 --> 00:00:30.079 But if you are hearing us just after eight pm, 6 00:00:30.120 --> 00:00:33.200 like literally seven and a half minutes after eight pm 7 00:00:33.359 --> 00:00:37.240 Eastern time on the tenth day of October twenty twenty five, 8 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.439 allegedly we're live and you can call in three one 9 00:00:41.560 --> 00:00:45.640 nine five two seven five zero one six. I'm hoping 10 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.479 that BPTE will be able to join me shortly because 11 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:51.520 I'm live. I sent the jitsy link to the teams 12 00:00:51.560 --> 00:00:55.200 and this and that, but man, uh here I am, 13 00:00:55.560 --> 00:00:59.119 and I just decided to get it rolling now because 14 00:00:59.159 --> 00:01:01.520 you know, we've been losing life fifteen twenty minutes, mostly 15 00:01:01.560 --> 00:01:04.840 because of my fault almost every Friday on this show 16 00:01:05.959 --> 00:01:08.400 when we have Aaron, you know, starting at ten pm. 17 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:09.840 I'm not gonna sit there and make him wait a 18 00:01:09.840 --> 00:01:12.519 half hour every time, so we get in our full 19 00:01:12.560 --> 00:01:15.959 two hours. And besides, do we accomplish anything more that's 20 00:01:16.040 --> 00:01:19.159 up to you. Actually, three one nine five two seven 21 00:01:19.280 --> 00:01:22.599 five zero one six. My priority on this show is 22 00:01:22.640 --> 00:01:26.560 to hear from you guys, not me, So I would 23 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:28.959 prefer to just kind of manage this and get you 24 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:31.519 guys on I mean, one. 25 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:32.000 Way or another. 26 00:01:32.159 --> 00:01:34.519 If Beat beats having trouble with his internet or can 27 00:01:34.560 --> 00:01:37.519 somehow hear me, dude, even call in if you want, 28 00:01:37.719 --> 00:01:40.239 I mean, however you want to connect, do it and 29 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:43.040 we'll get you on air. Because I like doing this 30 00:01:43.079 --> 00:01:45.640 with a co host. Can do it myself. I can 31 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:48.719 sit here and tread water while I talk and keep 32 00:01:48.760 --> 00:01:52.680 the lines open, I suppose, But I don't like doing 33 00:01:52.719 --> 00:01:54.799 it that way. And that's not the way we do 34 00:01:54.840 --> 00:01:58.200 things on Friday night, is it. If you're a regular listener, 35 00:01:58.280 --> 00:02:02.000 you know this already. I did get an interesting email though, recently, 36 00:02:02.040 --> 00:02:04.000 before I even touch on any of today's news or 37 00:02:04.040 --> 00:02:07.359 anything else, I got an interesting email regarding the Friday 38 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.400 night call in show, and it's the first positive one 39 00:02:09.400 --> 00:02:12.319 I've gotten in a long time. Maybe I should pull 40 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:16.000 it up and read to it for you. Let's sing, 41 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:21.120 Yeah there he is, all right. So the title of 42 00:02:21.159 --> 00:02:26.080 the email was unpacking political witch hunts okay with Dennis Brennan, 43 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:31.360 because apparently that's his thing. Anyways, your recent Friday night 44 00:02:31.400 --> 00:02:35.680 open mic would be Pete had me hooked. Especially, excuse 45 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:38.199 me when you impact how so many people are brainwashed 46 00:02:38.199 --> 00:02:42.240 in layers, the way you challenge listeners to really examine 47 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:46.280 whether their thoughts are their own struck a chord. I've 48 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:50.840 always admired al the o'celli effect isn't afraid to confront 49 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:56.479 narratives and spark fresh questions. Okay, so this is complimentary, 50 00:02:56.520 --> 00:02:59.039 that's not the point. But anyway, the deal is, he 51 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:01.680 was actually listening to the show and he said he'd 52 00:03:01.719 --> 00:03:03.919 like to be on the show, and I think I 53 00:03:03.960 --> 00:03:07.000 have him scheduled now for an odd day. 54 00:03:07.080 --> 00:03:08.240 We'll actually do a live. 55 00:03:08.080 --> 00:03:12.159 Show on Monday, this coming Monday, and see what he thinks. Now, 56 00:03:12.199 --> 00:03:14.840 I have a suspicion about where he's at and how 57 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:18.400 he thinks people have been sort of manipulated into thinking 58 00:03:18.599 --> 00:03:22.919 of other people's thoughts, so to speak. But we'll have 59 00:03:23.039 --> 00:03:25.199 to wait and see, because I don't want to prejudge 60 00:03:25.240 --> 00:03:27.840 the circumstance. And we might have a really productive, cool 61 00:03:28.319 --> 00:03:35.520 thing to present to you, you know, for a Monday night. So, 62 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:38.000 b Pete, you said, I've been here in the chat room. Dude, 63 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:42.479 I sent you the link on teams and I just 64 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:48.400 went live. So he say, you got nothing on teams? 65 00:03:48.479 --> 00:03:50.479 All right, let's pop her open and see if I 66 00:03:50.520 --> 00:03:53.199 accidentally sent it to the wrong person or something stupid, 67 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:56.840 because I made sure it went out. Let's see where 68 00:03:56.879 --> 00:04:01.719 is it? Anyways, So this guy you know, had apparently 69 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:04.879 listened and thought, yeah, okay, well I've got your green 70 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:07.360 lit b Pete that we have been responding on. 71 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:10.080 And there is a link to Jitsy there. Let's see. 72 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:12.960 I'll put another one in, I guess, but now that 73 00:04:13.000 --> 00:04:18.120 should make two. Anyways, there's two Jitsy links in a 74 00:04:18.199 --> 00:04:22.199 row in your team's communication be Pete. Anyhow, enough for 75 00:04:22.279 --> 00:04:25.120 talking to one person listening. My co host will join 76 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:29.360 me shortly, I hope. Anyhow, Yeah, so this guy has 77 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:31.680 an idea about political witch hunts, and you know, we're 78 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:36.560 talking about the brainwashing thing, et cetera. You know, and Bepet, 79 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.920 I'm gonna respond to your text. You're twiddling your thumbs. 80 00:04:38.959 --> 00:04:42.040 Look at your teams cuz I've sent it twice now there, 81 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:45.279 so I don't know what else to do. You want 82 00:04:45.319 --> 00:04:47.439 me to just put it publicly in the chat room. 83 00:04:47.439 --> 00:04:49.720 I will, but that'll allow other people to join us 84 00:04:50.120 --> 00:04:54.120 and troll the conversation. Let's see, can I send you 85 00:04:54.160 --> 00:04:56.079 a private message on the stupid chat room? 86 00:04:56.120 --> 00:04:58.120 I don't even know anymore. I know it's possible, but 87 00:04:58.160 --> 00:04:59.519 I don't know how to do it. Let's see. 88 00:05:00.040 --> 00:05:02.839 Maybe it'll let me because I've sent it to you 89 00:05:03.000 --> 00:05:05.399 already twice on there, and you're not getting it, so 90 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:09.920 I don't know. Let's see, I got up your profile 91 00:05:10.040 --> 00:05:13.920 on Chattango and all that, and I don't see the 92 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:18.079 spot where I can type stuff in. Okay, let's go 93 00:05:18.120 --> 00:05:27.680 over to teams again, because let's see whereas you here. Okay, 94 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:29.800 so let's put it. 95 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:30.319 In there again. 96 00:05:37.720 --> 00:05:39.720 All right, I'm gonna bring him on and then I'll 97 00:05:39.759 --> 00:05:41.720 explain to him so that you know, this makes sense 98 00:05:41.759 --> 00:05:44.480 to the listener later what it is I'm talking about 99 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:47.879 as far as the team's thing, and I'm sitting here 100 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.480 sending him a message over and over again. Anyway, we'll 101 00:05:51.519 --> 00:05:54.160 get to that in a minute. 102 00:05:54.639 --> 00:05:55.680 So he was talking about that. 103 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:57.680 I have my suspicions about where he's gonna go, but 104 00:05:57.759 --> 00:06:00.160 let's see what comes of it, you know. And I've 105 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.279 tried to schedule a couple other people, and I do 106 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:06.800 have some schedules uh, let's see. Tim Gardner is gonna 107 00:06:06.839 --> 00:06:08.040 be somebody. 108 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:08.279 I work with. 109 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:11.120 There you are, I'm live talking to the audience, and 110 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:17.079 hopefully you can hear me, all right, can you hear me? 111 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:21.240 Okay? 112 00:06:21.360 --> 00:06:25.680 VP cannot hear me now. I don't know what's going on. Man, 113 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:31.439 change something because I'm talking to you and I'm talking 114 00:06:31.439 --> 00:06:31.879 on the air. 115 00:06:32.759 --> 00:06:37.040 Anyway. The thing is this, you know. 116 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:40.360 There he goes, Okay, I heard a noise and then 117 00:06:40.360 --> 00:06:46.639 he went robotic A right, you know what I'm gonna 118 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:48.959 do for the sake of the listeners, I'm gonna take away. 119 00:06:49.360 --> 00:06:52.120 That's what we're gonna do. 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Anyway, we straightened out the 191 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:00.440 connection to be Pete, so my cost is now with me. 192 00:14:00.799 --> 00:14:02.799 I'll again give out the phone numbers. I was just 193 00:14:02.919 --> 00:14:04.840 doing a little housekeeping and telling you stuff that was 194 00:14:04.919 --> 00:14:08.799 going on regarding bookings and stuff like that. Previous to it, 195 00:14:08.960 --> 00:14:11.440 I will be making guest appearances on a couple different 196 00:14:11.440 --> 00:14:15.799 shows trying to promote Lancer, etc. And I apparently spent 197 00:14:15.919 --> 00:14:18.039 three hours with a guy who lost his recording the 198 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:21.080 other day, so that was did not make me happy. 199 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.480 But we're gonna try that again. This is why I 200 00:14:24.519 --> 00:14:26.799 should always make my own backup recordings, even when they 201 00:14:26.840 --> 00:14:31.039 ask me not to, you know, because this guy is like, oh, 202 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.960 you know. The woman working with him says, you know, listen, 203 00:14:35.000 --> 00:14:38.240 you got to shut off all your apps or anything else, 204 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:41.440 and it tries to record, it'll interfere. And I said, okay, okay, 205 00:14:41.519 --> 00:14:43.200 I'll just wait and I'll get the audio from you. 206 00:14:43.879 --> 00:14:46.000 And then it turns out they have no usable audio. 207 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:48.679 So I'm like, okay, good job. But I spent three 208 00:14:48.720 --> 00:14:54.600 hours on jfk assassination films and nobody will get to 209 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:58.759 hear it except me and the two hosts there right anyhow, 210 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.720 And there's no recording. I asked, do you have any 211 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:02.559 partial recording? 212 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:05.000 Nothing? So I can't can't give you any of that. 213 00:15:05.120 --> 00:15:07.360 But who knows what we'll get in between now and 214 00:15:07.440 --> 00:15:11.279 November twenty first, when the Lancer conference begins. All right, 215 00:15:11.360 --> 00:15:13.960 So all that stuff aside. And I didn't even touch 216 00:15:14.000 --> 00:15:16.639 on the news or anything because I really don't want to. 217 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:18.600 I mean, I'm fed up with a lot of things. 218 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:21.240 I know my cost is fed up with different things, 219 00:15:21.360 --> 00:15:25.639 but still fed up is the theme of the day, okay. 220 00:15:26.080 --> 00:15:29.399 And with good reason on many sides. 221 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:36.240 I think, although today's weird announcement kind of predictable regarding 222 00:15:36.320 --> 00:15:39.399 you know, guitar and what's going on, I mean, dude, 223 00:15:40.080 --> 00:15:43.039 if you don't see how this lines up with Jared 224 00:15:43.080 --> 00:15:46.879 and his golf courses, Trump getting a plane and now 225 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.200 we got you know, the weirdest thing to me is 226 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:51.720 that they're going to put a Katari air base or 227 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:54.399 some sort of military base in Idaho. 228 00:15:55.919 --> 00:15:56.120 Yeah. 229 00:15:56.200 --> 00:15:57.879 Training facility, yeah, okay. 230 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:02.039 Training facility, but Idaho like the home, the secret quiet, 231 00:16:02.120 --> 00:16:05.399 don't say it out loud, home of many, a cast 232 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:08.320 off from society, White supremacists, Idaho. 233 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:12.279 That's the truth of it. There's a whole bunch of 234 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:14.600 them in the wilderness. 235 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:15.600 Out there that are like I want to go out 236 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:17.720 here so the government will leave me alone, and white 237 00:16:17.799 --> 00:16:20.679 power and all that, and a lot of them gravitate 238 00:16:20.720 --> 00:16:21.120 to Idaho. 239 00:16:21.320 --> 00:16:24.960 I've known at least a dozen of them that are 240 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:25.320 like that. 241 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:27.840 One of them recently contacted me thinking that I was 242 00:16:28.200 --> 00:16:32.519 on their line of thinking, somehow weird, weird guy I 243 00:16:32.600 --> 00:16:36.559 knew from high school. But anyway, I've known some interesting 244 00:16:36.639 --> 00:16:39.159 people in my life. And oh, I was going back over, 245 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:40.960 as a matter of fact, because I'm gonna do the 246 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:42.360 mob presentation at Lancer. 247 00:16:42.840 --> 00:16:46.039 I was going back over my relationship with a friend of. 248 00:16:46.039 --> 00:16:48.320 Mine that died well a little more than ten years ago, 249 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:53.720 eleven years ago, Frank Manucci, and the interesting story that 250 00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.519 I wish I'd been able to bring to this radio show, 251 00:16:56.600 --> 00:16:59.480 because when I started the show, I had a list 252 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:01.480 of people I wanted to bring on, and Frank was 253 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:03.600 one of them. I would have been glad to bring 254 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:05.799 him on, and he would have been a very interesting 255 00:17:05.839 --> 00:17:08.920 guest on a lot of levels. But also I had, 256 00:17:09.000 --> 00:17:10.839 you know, like James Tag I wanted to bring on 257 00:17:11.039 --> 00:17:13.400 and stuff like that. A lot of people died in 258 00:17:13.519 --> 00:17:15.400 the process, like right before I got to do the 259 00:17:15.480 --> 00:17:17.759 show that I knew personally that I could. 260 00:17:17.599 --> 00:17:20.000 Have brought on here that would have been really really 261 00:17:20.079 --> 00:17:21.400 great to have in the archive. 262 00:17:21.519 --> 00:17:24.759 But Frank is one of those guys. He had a 263 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.160 role in the movie Carlito's Way. He was in the 264 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:31.480 movie Ghost Dog with Oh God, I can't remember the 265 00:17:32.160 --> 00:17:36.079 star's name, but a black actor who plays this really 266 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:40.640 weird sort of like urban samurai guy. Ghost Dog anyway, 267 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:43.200 good movie in a weird sort of cult way, and 268 00:17:43.319 --> 00:17:46.039 he plays like, you know, typical throwaway mobster in the movie. 269 00:17:46.880 --> 00:17:49.400 He's also playing a mobster on the prison barge and 270 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:53.400 Carlito's Way, Tommy t they drown him. He's also one 271 00:17:53.440 --> 00:17:56.799 of the guys that Bretta there right tried to hire 272 00:17:56.839 --> 00:18:00.839 to kill his wife. At the time, I knew him 273 00:18:01.240 --> 00:18:03.799 that happened, and I was looking back at the testimony 274 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.599 he gave him the trial and the acquirer's story and 275 00:18:06.640 --> 00:18:10.079 all that stuff, and him and I were friends at 276 00:18:10.119 --> 00:18:15.680 different points in our lives, and by this time he's Yeah, well, 277 00:18:15.720 --> 00:18:18.920 Forest Whitaker is the actor in Ghost Dog. Yes, yes, 278 00:18:20.200 --> 00:18:22.640 but Frank Manucci plays a role in that movie. He 279 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:24.039 was on like a Law and Order. 280 00:18:24.079 --> 00:18:25.240 He was on a few things. 281 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:28.519 Including vaguely remember ghost Dog. 282 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:29.240 Yeah. 283 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:31.839 He also didn't remember when HBO used to have that 284 00:18:31.920 --> 00:18:34.200 America Undercover documentary series. 285 00:18:36.079 --> 00:18:36.279 Yeah. 286 00:18:36.960 --> 00:18:40.359 So he was also on the episode about like getting 287 00:18:40.400 --> 00:18:43.680 out of the mob. Uh, you know, and he was 288 00:18:43.759 --> 00:18:45.640 really mad actually because they put him on the same 289 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:48.359 episode with Sammy de Bull, who was a rat, and 290 00:18:49.319 --> 00:18:51.359 they put him on there. He walked out in a 291 00:18:51.799 --> 00:18:55.880 completely different way to get away from mafia association. He 292 00:18:55.960 --> 00:18:59.640 was never a made guy, but he was offered the 293 00:18:59.759 --> 00:19:04.640 chance to become and walked away. Frank Minucci. 294 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:07.960 Minucci, I could remember the last name. 295 00:19:07.920 --> 00:19:08.559 Yeah, Minucci. 296 00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:12.759 He wrote a book called Brother Frank because he converted 297 00:19:13.079 --> 00:19:17.079 himself to a Christian preacher, you see later in life 298 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:22.079 after having a pretty interesting criminal history where he was, 299 00:19:22.240 --> 00:19:27.279 you know, one of the head members of the Nomads, 300 00:19:27.359 --> 00:19:30.359 which is like an elite group of Hell's Angels that 301 00:19:30.440 --> 00:19:33.519 are really like the enforcer arm of the Hell's Angels 302 00:19:34.640 --> 00:19:35.400 or a separate Yeah. 303 00:19:35.400 --> 00:19:37.920 I'll put a link to his to his book in 304 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:38.559 the room. 305 00:19:38.880 --> 00:19:41.359 Yeah, a separate but connected group called the Nomads to 306 00:19:41.400 --> 00:19:43.240 the Hell's Angels, and he was like one of the 307 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:44.839 top guys because. 308 00:19:44.519 --> 00:19:47.400 He was an enforcer type guy that worked for many people. 309 00:19:47.960 --> 00:19:50.599 Anyway, a good friend of mine, like I said, and 310 00:19:50.720 --> 00:19:53.920 also Robert Blake turns to him and calls him up, like, hey, 311 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:57.160 I need you to get rid of my wife, you. 312 00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:59.880 Know, and that's where I remember him. 313 00:20:00.440 --> 00:20:04.240 Yeah, so but at that Kay, Yeah, at that time 314 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:06.880 him and I were really good friends. So it cracked 315 00:20:06.920 --> 00:20:09.359 me up. I thought he was just like telling a 316 00:20:09.440 --> 00:20:13.599 crazy story where he's like, you know, not too many 317 00:20:13.640 --> 00:20:15.880 of these actors call me anymore, et cetera, et cetera. 318 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:18.039 You know, Sean Penn don't call me, and Paccino he 319 00:20:18.119 --> 00:20:20.599 don't call me, but they know who I am this 320 00:20:20.799 --> 00:20:22.759 and that, you know, because he was in that movie 321 00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:26.640 Carlito's Way, right, So you know, he's like, but I'll 322 00:20:26.680 --> 00:20:28.880 tell you the weirdest guys will call you. And then 323 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:30.960 he told me that he didn't tell me the guy's 324 00:20:31.039 --> 00:20:32.960 name at first. He told me, you know, the TV 325 00:20:33.119 --> 00:20:36.640 actor who's well known for that called him up one night, 326 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:39.839 and he didn't say directly what it was, but he 327 00:20:39.960 --> 00:20:41.599 was like, ask me to do a little bit of 328 00:20:41.640 --> 00:20:45.279 dirty business, you know. I said, yeah, okay, but uh, 329 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:48.720 you know, and before he even finished, I was like, yeah, 330 00:20:48.720 --> 00:20:50.079 but what was he What was. 331 00:20:50.079 --> 00:20:53.160 He offering to pay you, you know, like to get 332 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:53.680 it done. 333 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:57.519 And neither one of us were living like criminal lives 334 00:20:57.559 --> 00:21:02.000 at that point for the most part, but I was 335 00:21:02.079 --> 00:21:05.279 running exxons and anyway, there's a whole story to that. 336 00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:07.640 But it cracked me up because he tells me about it, 337 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:09.279 and then the next thing I know, he's all over 338 00:21:09.359 --> 00:21:12.599 the news and they're gonna subpoena him to testify at 339 00:21:12.640 --> 00:21:18.200 the trial. Even right his testimony is priceless. There's like 340 00:21:18.279 --> 00:21:22.920 an old archived CNN link that I know I have. Wait, 341 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:24.079 let me see if I can get it. Maybe I 342 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:26.279 could put in the chat room. There's an old CNN 343 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:28.599 archived link that I just looked back at, and I 344 00:21:28.720 --> 00:21:32.000 was cracking up because the way they describe his testimony 345 00:21:33.359 --> 00:21:35.759 and like some of his mannerisms, like, I know the 346 00:21:35.839 --> 00:21:42.000 reporter actually did some work here, because he's describing the reporter. Actually, 347 00:21:42.079 --> 00:21:49.000 she Lisa Sweatingham, is describing very well exactly the mannerisms 348 00:21:49.039 --> 00:21:53.240 of my friend frank okay, and the story. He told 349 00:21:53.319 --> 00:21:57.119 them what happened, and I can confirm that he received 350 00:21:57.160 --> 00:22:01.160 this five hundred bucks in an envelope and these kind 351 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:04.319 of things, and he did. He's dead now, so nobody 352 00:22:04.359 --> 00:22:06.480 can get him in trouble. But he lied about where 353 00:22:06.519 --> 00:22:09.200 he made the phone call from. And he also did 354 00:22:09.319 --> 00:22:12.440 not because he wasn't gonna rat anybody else out. He 355 00:22:12.480 --> 00:22:15.039 admitted he had somebody with him on this phone call 356 00:22:15.119 --> 00:22:19.039 he made, but he definitely misidentified who the guy was. 357 00:22:19.200 --> 00:22:20.119 I know who the guy was. 358 00:22:20.200 --> 00:22:22.920 It was there to back in, you know, that went 359 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:24.799 with him to do the threatening phone call, and I 360 00:22:24.880 --> 00:22:26.480 know where the phone call was made from. And both 361 00:22:26.519 --> 00:22:29.960 of those pieces of information in his testimony are inaccurate. 362 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:33.680 But the phone call, the substance of the phone call 363 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.839 is all true. And even I remember at the time 364 00:22:39.039 --> 00:22:43.160 before news hit, before anybody knew anything, you know, the 365 00:22:43.200 --> 00:22:45.279 anecdote I got from him personally was. 366 00:22:46.839 --> 00:22:49.920 Frankly, look, you know, I couldn't believe it. 367 00:22:50.039 --> 00:22:53.559 She asked how big my you know, my junk was basically, 368 00:22:56.000 --> 00:22:59.599 and that's part of the trial transcript. And it's true 369 00:23:00.200 --> 00:23:02.599 as true as I can verify it, because the guy 370 00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:04.839 told me this long before anybody was asking about it. 371 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:07.839 He just volunteered it to me. And him and I 372 00:23:07.960 --> 00:23:08.640 may have had other. 373 00:23:08.599 --> 00:23:11.240 Things in common, and he might have volunteered other information 374 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:13.480 to me that, you know what, I got. 375 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:15.400 A bad memory. I don't necessarily remember it all. 376 00:23:15.480 --> 00:23:19.240 But I found it was funny that this reporter kind 377 00:23:19.240 --> 00:23:21.480 of described him when he sort of shrugged his shoulders 378 00:23:21.519 --> 00:23:22.279 and said this or that. 379 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:23.839 I could picture it. 380 00:23:24.039 --> 00:23:29.559 And they were clearly taking notes on Frank Manucci's behavior 381 00:23:29.640 --> 00:23:35.039 in the courtroom perfectly, although they kind of misdescribe him, 382 00:23:35.079 --> 00:23:36.960 you know, they kind of, oh, he's a former mobster. 383 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:39.559 He never was officially a mobster. He wasn't a maid 384 00:23:39.640 --> 00:23:42.759 guy or anything like that, but he was something to 385 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:44.880 reckon with. And it was too funny because he was 386 00:23:44.920 --> 00:23:48.920 living in a retirement community in Whiting, New Jersey, which 387 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:50.880 is how him and I got close in proximity to 388 00:23:50.960 --> 00:23:53.720 one another, and I ran an ex on there anyways 389 00:23:54.759 --> 00:23:57.559 during that time period, and he was, you know, motorcycle 390 00:23:57.680 --> 00:23:58.359 riding preacher. 391 00:24:00.319 --> 00:24:00.640 It was. 392 00:24:01.200 --> 00:24:08.119 It was rather fascinating because how do I put this, 393 00:24:10.759 --> 00:24:11.079 It's just. 394 00:24:11.119 --> 00:24:13.400 That there's a lot of interesting things that went on there, 395 00:24:13.799 --> 00:24:18.119 and Frank was generally a great guy, and I appreciated 396 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:21.519 and respected him. But he got a little disturbed when 397 00:24:21.720 --> 00:24:26.559 HBO re ran that America Undercover thing right in the 398 00:24:26.640 --> 00:24:29.440 late nineties, because he recorded it, I don't know, some 399 00:24:29.680 --> 00:24:32.400 years before, maybe you say, five, six, seven years before 400 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:36.319 it was a brand new America Undercover, and somewhere in 401 00:24:36.440 --> 00:24:38.640 like I don't know, ninety nine or two thousand, something 402 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:42.640 like that, they re ran it on HBO, and his 403 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.039 stories on there were He's sitting there and he just 404 00:24:45.160 --> 00:24:48.240 kind of calmly goes, yeah, well, sometimes a guy would 405 00:24:48.240 --> 00:24:50.559 owe me money, and I might I don't know, time 406 00:24:50.640 --> 00:24:52.559 to the back of my bumper, drag him around a 407 00:24:52.599 --> 00:24:54.640 block or two, and then he might be willing to 408 00:24:54.720 --> 00:24:55.759 pay me a little faster. 409 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:56.079 You know. 410 00:24:57.039 --> 00:24:59.160 He would say stuff like this on this interview, and 411 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.319 of course HBO cut it together to make it look 412 00:25:01.400 --> 00:25:04.279 even more dark and nefarious. So believe me, they edited 413 00:25:04.359 --> 00:25:09.279 out the stuff that wasn't ugly, and they made him look, 414 00:25:10.240 --> 00:25:14.559 you know, vicious. I mean not to say that he wasn't, 415 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:16.920 but they made him look really, really vicious. 416 00:25:17.000 --> 00:25:17.880 And meanwhile, he's in. 417 00:25:17.920 --> 00:25:22.319 The retirement community with you know, retired dennis and plumbers 418 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:25.160 and so on and so forth. All around him, and 419 00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:28.079 it reruns on HBO and a lot of those people 420 00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:31.720 saw it, you know. So now he's going around town 421 00:25:32.079 --> 00:25:34.279 with his big cross on him. He's still got the 422 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:40.039 New York and Italian man mannerisms to him, and you know, 423 00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:43.400 you might guess he's a gangster when you see him, 424 00:25:43.680 --> 00:25:45.880 regardless of what he's doing, even if he's talking about 425 00:25:45.880 --> 00:25:48.839 praising the Lord. And he was a guy I wanted 426 00:25:48.880 --> 00:25:51.759 to do the baptism for my son that was born 427 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:54.119 in two thousand and two. I also wanted him to 428 00:25:54.160 --> 00:25:55.880 be the one to marry me and my first wife. 429 00:25:55.920 --> 00:25:57.880 But thank god he didn't do that. I would have 430 00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:01.680 been pleased if he had, you know, done Charlie's baptism. 431 00:26:01.759 --> 00:26:05.519 But anyways, but he was a little upset because all 432 00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:07.680 of a sudden, the nice old ladies and nice old 433 00:26:07.720 --> 00:26:11.599 men all around him, you know, were like cowering in 434 00:26:11.720 --> 00:26:14.720 fear of this guy. And he didn't really want that. 435 00:26:15.640 --> 00:26:17.920 And that's before the Robert Blake thing happened. And he 436 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:19.799 was trying to just you know, do his thing and 437 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:22.680 be a good Christian and you know, serve people that 438 00:26:22.839 --> 00:26:25.640 might have come from rough circumstances, even like who are 439 00:26:25.640 --> 00:26:28.160 you going to send in to the prison to talk 440 00:26:28.240 --> 00:26:31.160 to the hard and criminal about converting to Jesus. This 441 00:26:31.359 --> 00:26:34.559 is the guy you send, you know, the guy who's 442 00:26:34.599 --> 00:26:37.079 not going to be threatened, intimidated or bothered by and 443 00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:40.519 so what you know, this kind of thing. Anyways, I 444 00:26:40.960 --> 00:26:43.279 just I remember him being very upset about that, and 445 00:26:43.319 --> 00:26:46.039 then the Robert Blake thing blew up, and he just 446 00:26:46.119 --> 00:26:48.039 decided to have a good sense of humor about it 447 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:50.039 because it was like, hey, whatever, here we go. 448 00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.880 You know what, I'm the bad guy, but I'm also 449 00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:55.799 a preacher, so you figure it out. 450 00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.000 Anyway, I just found it funny and it's a remarkable 451 00:27:00.079 --> 00:27:01.799 And then there's a guy I really wish I had 452 00:27:01.799 --> 00:27:03.400 been able to do a couple of shows with on 453 00:27:03.559 --> 00:27:07.319 here and record some interviews that would survive, you know 454 00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:10.799 what I mean, And that would be a fascinating guy. Well, 455 00:27:10.880 --> 00:27:13.440 so it was familiar with my backstory too, and that 456 00:27:13.720 --> 00:27:14.720 might have been cool also. 457 00:27:14.839 --> 00:27:16.480 But he was just the cool, interesting guy. 458 00:27:17.000 --> 00:27:18.759 I mean, if you just go with what the films 459 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:20.839 he was in, the documentaries, he was, in the life 460 00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:24.400 he led, et cetera. I mean, there's a person of 461 00:27:24.519 --> 00:27:28.240 interest that I could have had great conversations. 462 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:31.720 With on here, So anyway, that's just not a curiosity 463 00:27:32.039 --> 00:27:33.039 good just. 464 00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:35.880 Out of curiosity. Was he or was he ordained in 465 00:27:35.880 --> 00:27:40.640 a specific denomination or was he like a universalist pastor? 466 00:27:40.920 --> 00:27:45.799 Or are you meaning to ask if he's kind of 467 00:27:45.839 --> 00:27:47.480 like if he was kind of like my thing or 468 00:27:47.799 --> 00:27:50.279 if he was is that what you're asking? 469 00:27:50.440 --> 00:27:52.839 Like, yeah, I mean was he well, no, I mean, 470 00:27:53.000 --> 00:27:55.759 just was he ordained into an you know, through a 471 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.799 denomination or was he just a pastor? 472 00:27:59.400 --> 00:28:03.680 Now he was ordained through one of those like I 473 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:06.279 cannot remember the exact one because there's so many that 474 00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:09.079 are very similar, but you know what I mean. 475 00:28:09.039 --> 00:28:11.200 The the dedicated Church of Jesus. 476 00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:14.680 You know, Jesus is in the name and uh you 477 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:18.039 know the uh whatever of Christ and this and that 478 00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:19.279 and uh. 479 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:24.839 I think at a certain point he adopted like, you know, patches. 480 00:28:24.599 --> 00:28:26.799 On the backs of like you know, some of his 481 00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:32.039 parishioners that were made to look similar to uh to 482 00:28:32.200 --> 00:28:36.559 like biker club back patches. And it was all about 483 00:28:36.640 --> 00:28:40.599 the you know, the servants of the Lord now on 484 00:28:40.680 --> 00:28:43.160 a motorcycle with a big giant cross, you know what 485 00:28:43.240 --> 00:28:45.759 I mean. It was all about Jesus and how Jesus 486 00:28:45.839 --> 00:28:48.680 had saved his life and saved his soul. And if 487 00:28:48.720 --> 00:28:52.200 it wasn't for his wife, who was this gentle kind 488 00:28:52.400 --> 00:28:54.559 Christian woman, that he never would have. 489 00:28:54.640 --> 00:28:55.440 Changed his ways. 490 00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.000 And he probably would have, you know, died in a 491 00:28:58.039 --> 00:29:01.200 hal of bullets at some point, that kind of story. 492 00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:03.160 And he was like the redemptions in Christ. 493 00:29:03.599 --> 00:29:06.960 I would think sending into prisons and correctional institutions and 494 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:08.799 things like that, he'd have a little more pulled and 495 00:29:08.920 --> 00:29:12.400 say someone like who was it of the Watergate gang? 496 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:16.000 Was it Coulson? Which one got? Yeah, Colson ordained or something. 497 00:29:16.160 --> 00:29:19.480 Yeah, Colson did the born again thing, and Frank was 498 00:29:19.759 --> 00:29:22.200 again one of those born agains too, right, So but 499 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:25.279 it was through one of those like you know, very 500 00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:28.559 very like focus on Jesus, focus on Jesus twice in 501 00:29:28.599 --> 00:29:30.839 the name churches, you know. 502 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:32.119 So it wasn't a Jenio for. 503 00:29:33.000 --> 00:29:35.079 Criminal turned priest. I would think he'd have a little 504 00:29:35.119 --> 00:29:39.599 more street crid than some white collar crap like Colson. 505 00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:42.400 Well, yeah, I mean look, Coulson shows up and he's like, 506 00:29:42.559 --> 00:29:44.640 look I love the Lord, and they're like, yeah, well. 507 00:29:44.559 --> 00:29:46.759 I've killed people, you know, who the hell are you? 508 00:29:47.880 --> 00:29:48.000 Uh? 509 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:49.960 You know, Frank could look at him and go, what 510 00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:51.799 am I supposed to be impressed? I'm here to talk 511 00:29:51.799 --> 00:29:54.240 to you about this, not that you know what I'm saying. 512 00:29:54.720 --> 00:29:58.559 So that attitude, yeah, it goes a lot further among 513 00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.680 people that you know, have lived a different life if 514 00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.440 you can't relate to their circumstances. 515 00:30:04.480 --> 00:30:05.839 I mean, you know, you're going to be a joke. 516 00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:08.640 You know, it doesn't matter if you're the bleeding hard 517 00:30:08.720 --> 00:30:09.920 social worker you show up. 518 00:30:09.960 --> 00:30:11.960 Oh look I love you and I want to help you. Yeah, 519 00:30:12.079 --> 00:30:14.519 you love me. Huh, You're on the wrong foot. 520 00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:19.680 You're approaching hardened people with way too soft to something 521 00:30:19.759 --> 00:30:21.640 they can't even transition. 522 00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:22.920 You know what I mean. 523 00:30:23.000 --> 00:30:27.079 But this guy can be like, look, I already did 524 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:30.000 you know, like almost like your father is supposed to do. 525 00:30:30.160 --> 00:30:32.359 I understand, right, and I've tried to do. 526 00:30:32.519 --> 00:30:35.839 Look, anything you've done, I've already done it. So why 527 00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.599 don't we skip that part and talk about what's really 528 00:30:38.640 --> 00:30:40.720 important here? You know what I mean? 529 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.839 And you don't have credibility to do that unless you've 530 00:30:43.839 --> 00:30:47.240 done it or you're a hell of an actor, which, 531 00:30:47.279 --> 00:30:48.559 by the way, I think he was a pretty good 532 00:30:48.599 --> 00:30:52.359 actor as well, you know, just based on you. 533 00:30:52.480 --> 00:30:55.519 Yeah, from what I remember he was an interesting character, 534 00:30:56.119 --> 00:30:58.640 and he turned down a role on The Sopranos, which 535 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:01.839 killed me because because I was like, ah, Frank, you 536 00:31:01.920 --> 00:31:02.519 got to take that. 537 00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:05.680 You know, he was gonna They offered him a minor 538 00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:11.440 role on there, and as crazy as it sounds, you know, like. 539 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:15.680 He thought that it was this is the weird judgment here. 540 00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:19.880 He thought that the excessive cursing and the fact that 541 00:31:20.000 --> 00:31:22.880 The Sopranos made Italians look bad in general. 542 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:26.880 He really didn't feel good about taking the role. 543 00:31:27.039 --> 00:31:29.079 He wanted the money, he would have liked the spotlight, 544 00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:31.359 and he felt you know, silly a little bit afterwards 545 00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:35.039 because the show became much more successful than anybody thought 546 00:31:35.079 --> 00:31:38.279 it was going to be. But he turned down a 547 00:31:38.359 --> 00:31:40.680 role which wasn't a major role, but he would have 548 00:31:40.720 --> 00:31:44.279 had a recurring role, let's say, on The Sopranos, and 549 00:31:44.400 --> 00:31:45.680 I think he would have done better than the guy 550 00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:51.000 they hired. But yeah, I mean, you know, so he 551 00:31:51.119 --> 00:31:53.240 lived in a bunch of different worlds at different points 552 00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.400 in his life, and I always found that interesting. The 553 00:31:56.480 --> 00:32:01.559 funny thing, another little just funny quick story. He was like, 554 00:32:01.920 --> 00:32:04.759 he knew of me at other points in life, but 555 00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:07.720 we never met. So I mailed to his house an 556 00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:10.720 invitation after this going back and forth about you know, 557 00:32:11.160 --> 00:32:15.839 my wife's family didn't want the former gangster to you know, 558 00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:20.319 officiate for you know, my son's baptism. So I gave 559 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.319 in to my in laws on this, but I still 560 00:32:22.359 --> 00:32:25.319 send him an invitation. You know, why don't you come anyway? 561 00:32:25.400 --> 00:32:27.519 I'd love to have you there. So I sent him 562 00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:29.920 an invitation. I didn't say anything about it showed up 563 00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:32.960 in his mail and he picks it up. But he 564 00:32:33.000 --> 00:32:34.720 looks at his wife and son. They both told me 565 00:32:34.799 --> 00:32:36.279 the same thing, which cracked me up. 566 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:38.319 He looks up at his wife and son. 567 00:32:38.440 --> 00:32:43.839 He goes, oh, Shelley, isn't that a guy that got 568 00:32:43.880 --> 00:32:46.279 whacked in Brooklyn like about fifteen years ago? 569 00:32:46.359 --> 00:32:48.279 I don't think. I don't think I know, because he 570 00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.279 didn't know me by my last name. 571 00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:57.759 Even so he thought that, and then he confused me 572 00:32:57.839 --> 00:33:02.039 for my grandfather briefly, which you know, before he opened 573 00:33:02.079 --> 00:33:05.240 up the envelope and realized who it was. But before 574 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.759 he opened up the envelope, that was his immediate response. Wait, 575 00:33:07.799 --> 00:33:09.079 but didn't I know a guy who got whacked like 576 00:33:09.160 --> 00:33:11.119 that in Brooklyn like fifteen years ago? 577 00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:11.920 Oh? 578 00:33:12.039 --> 00:33:14.079 Well, maybe it was that guy in Jersey City who 579 00:33:14.079 --> 00:33:18.640 wore a cowboy hat that was my grandfather, and that's 580 00:33:18.640 --> 00:33:20.799 what he connected until he opened it up and he goes, oh, 581 00:33:20.960 --> 00:33:23.440 this is Chuck and Patty's kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, 582 00:33:25.799 --> 00:33:30.119 and his wife's name was Patty as well. Anyhow, I 583 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.079 just the guy. There's one hundred anidotes that I wish 584 00:33:33.160 --> 00:33:35.440 I could have relived with him and told about him. 585 00:33:35.519 --> 00:33:38.880 And I'm gonna make sure he's spoken about at Lancer. 586 00:33:38.960 --> 00:33:40.720 Actually in an interesting way. He's got nothing to do 587 00:33:40.759 --> 00:33:43.799 with the jfk assassination, but because I'm going to be 588 00:33:43.839 --> 00:33:49.960 focusing on organized crime in my partial presentation, I'm going 589 00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:53.160 to bring him up, you know, because far as I know, 590 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.559 and this is just in my personal knowledge, maybe it's 591 00:33:57.640 --> 00:34:01.240 more common than I think. But you know, you notice 592 00:34:01.279 --> 00:34:04.000 in mob stories you never hear about guys that got 593 00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:10.119 offered to be made and then didn't take it. There's 594 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:13.599 a good reason for that. And Frank and I shared 595 00:34:13.679 --> 00:34:17.559 that in Carmen, that we had been offered an invitation 596 00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:23.280 to the dance and we declined. So that was, you know, 597 00:34:24.599 --> 00:34:28.840 something we had in common and created an interesting bond, 598 00:34:29.360 --> 00:34:31.440 you know. And still there are many things I would 599 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:34.360 not revealed in that bond. You know you're gonna have 600 00:34:34.440 --> 00:34:36.519 to take me to my maker about it because that's 601 00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:41.360 where it's going. But but there's interesting stuff there and 602 00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:44.320 I would I would love to. I'm gonna at least 603 00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:46.320 make sure he gets a mention and put his put 604 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.599 his face in his book up on a slide during 605 00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:52.920 during Lancer because it's relevant anyway. Now I told this 606 00:34:53.079 --> 00:34:55.719 personal long story, b Pete. I'm sorry, but I hope 607 00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.119 people get something out of that. What do you think 608 00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:00.519 you got stuff on in your mind? 609 00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:01.320 How was your week? 610 00:35:01.440 --> 00:35:04.239 Now that we've gotten over the disruption and all that 611 00:35:04.360 --> 00:35:06.039 others doub how you doing man? 612 00:35:08.000 --> 00:35:08.480 This week? 613 00:35:08.559 --> 00:35:12.280 I'll tell you what. Weather personnel on all of these channels, 614 00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.079 including the app that pops up on my phone, have 615 00:35:16.239 --> 00:35:19.840 totally screwed things up this past week. It is damn 616 00:35:19.840 --> 00:35:22.719 near impossible to plan what you're gonna do when they 617 00:35:22.800 --> 00:35:25.599 tell you it's gonna be raining all morning and then 618 00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:27.280 it's going to clear off and it turns out to 619 00:35:27.360 --> 00:35:30.079 be seventy eight degrees and beautiful, And then when they 620 00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:32.039 tell you that it's going to be seventy eight degrees 621 00:35:32.079 --> 00:35:34.519 and beautiful, you're out there, the clouds come in and 622 00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:38.000 the rain starts. They are smoking crack or something. 623 00:35:38.440 --> 00:35:41.559 Well, let me ask you something. You don't use that. 624 00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:47.920 Please tell me you're not using the weather bug app. No, okay, good, 625 00:35:47.960 --> 00:35:53.719 because that thing is like a It spreads faster than 626 00:35:53.840 --> 00:35:56.800 the common cold as a virus in your systems and 627 00:35:56.920 --> 00:35:57.639 your devices. 628 00:35:57.800 --> 00:35:59.719 Do not use the weather bug guys. 629 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:02.159 I don't care if I've ever used that. 630 00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:05.760 Yeah, that thing's terrible and it's just intrusive and people 631 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:06.480 don't realize it. 632 00:36:06.639 --> 00:36:09.239 It digs into your system so much and I watched 633 00:36:09.280 --> 00:36:12.119 to do it. It's crazy. I don't know why. 634 00:36:12.599 --> 00:36:15.519 But it's like a spy device to design, you know, 635 00:36:16.039 --> 00:36:19.639 disguised as a weather estimator because it's never really good. 636 00:36:20.400 --> 00:36:20.519 Uh. 637 00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:22.039 It does tell you what's happening on. 638 00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:26.360 The phone when your phone updates, and you know, I've 639 00:36:26.400 --> 00:36:28.400 got mine set it will only update on if I'm 640 00:36:28.440 --> 00:36:30.360 on Wi Fi, so I'm not eating number of data 641 00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:33.119 right and you know, I'll go to bed, wake up 642 00:36:33.159 --> 00:36:35.400 the next morning my phone will have updated and there's 643 00:36:35.519 --> 00:36:38.400 like nine damn games on there that I never asked for. 644 00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:42.320 Why the hell can't they We need a law to 645 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:45.159 make them send you a list. Hey, we're getting ready 646 00:36:45.159 --> 00:36:47.599 to load all this shit on your phone. Click the 647 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:50.280 crap you don't want and we won't upload it. 648 00:36:51.079 --> 00:36:52.199 Well, save me some time. 649 00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:52.559 You know. 650 00:36:53.079 --> 00:36:58.559 Every after every update, I'm sitting there uninstalling nine games. Right. 651 00:36:58.840 --> 00:37:01.400 Here's the sad thing about that, because I went over 652 00:37:01.480 --> 00:37:04.280 this with people at Apple before, because they're the worst. 653 00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:07.440 I don't have an Apple device, but I had access 654 00:37:07.480 --> 00:37:11.719 to people at Apple, so I asked, and it's like, look, actually, 655 00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.000 all those things that you see getting, you know, people 656 00:37:14.079 --> 00:37:17.760 complain about all the time, somewhere in their user agreement 657 00:37:18.960 --> 00:37:22.440 is a box they need to check that says, you know, 658 00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.719 don't give me this stuff otherwise you're getting it. 659 00:37:25.920 --> 00:37:26.039 Uh. 660 00:37:26.199 --> 00:37:27.960 That's pretty much what it boiled down. I mean, you know, 661 00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:29.840 I went through a long, convoluted thing about it. 662 00:37:31.159 --> 00:37:34.920 Yeah, it wasn't Apple, the ones that downloaded the YouTube 663 00:37:35.079 --> 00:37:39.280 song to everybody's phone and caught so much backlash for it. 664 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.719 Yeah, I believe they were Apple Play. I believe, Well, no, 665 00:37:43.920 --> 00:37:44.960 that's Google Play. 666 00:37:46.320 --> 00:37:47.960 Or google Play are Apple? 667 00:37:48.079 --> 00:37:48.119 No? 668 00:37:48.360 --> 00:37:50.960 I think it was Apples through their iTunes. 669 00:37:51.320 --> 00:37:54.599 Yeah, Apple did something through iTunes, right, but google Play 670 00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:57.440 did that and got you know, they got hammered. 671 00:37:57.480 --> 00:37:59.079 It was like, wait a minute, you're telling us we 672 00:37:59.159 --> 00:38:00.599 can't use copyright material. 673 00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:04.239 Oh, that's right. Uh, you know, since the days of 674 00:38:04.559 --> 00:38:08.280 Bill Gates buying that Rolling Stone song right back, I 675 00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:10.039 don't know, Windows ninety five. 676 00:38:10.000 --> 00:38:11.639 Or whatever, what did they buy? Start me up? 677 00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:11.920 Right? 678 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:14.800 And it would That's what it would do at the beginning, 679 00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:19.079 when you turned on your computer and down, down, and 680 00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:20.400 that was it. 681 00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.599 I remember that because I was never a big Stones fan. 682 00:38:23.679 --> 00:38:25.280 I thought, God, I gotta get this over here. 683 00:38:26.400 --> 00:38:28.079 Yeah, but then you're stuck with it. It was sort 684 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.280 of like the AOL thing like for years and years 685 00:38:30.320 --> 00:38:31.400 and had the same voice. 686 00:38:31.360 --> 00:38:36.000 You got mail, you know, like you wonder who did 687 00:38:36.079 --> 00:38:36.519 that voice? 688 00:38:37.440 --> 00:38:37.599 You know. 689 00:38:37.960 --> 00:38:38.360 I don't know. 690 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.960 I once tracked that down actually because that was like 691 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.480 some weird trivia question and I did track it down 692 00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:44.920 because I didn't believe the answer. 693 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.960 And now I don't. Yeah, I don't remember what I got. 694 00:38:49.159 --> 00:38:50.440 I promise you. 695 00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:55.239 Nowadays it's probably more accessible, but earlier Internet incarnation, I 696 00:38:55.280 --> 00:38:58.159 actually had to track that down to find out. And 697 00:38:58.360 --> 00:39:01.320 there is an answer to it, or at least there 698 00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:03.440 was at the time. I don't know if it's changed since, 699 00:39:03.559 --> 00:39:06.440 but uh, but it was like almost a funny story 700 00:39:06.639 --> 00:39:07.840 and I just can't. 701 00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:09.320 Remember it now, would Edwards. 702 00:39:09.639 --> 00:39:13.760 There you go, there's the name, okay, now Edwards. 703 00:39:14.199 --> 00:39:16.719 He was born in nineteen November six, nineteen forty nine, 704 00:39:16.760 --> 00:39:20.920 and he passed away damn November fifth, a day before 705 00:39:21.000 --> 00:39:22.519 his birthday in twenty twenty four. 706 00:39:23.039 --> 00:39:28.199 There you go, see, and the guy's got like, yeah, 707 00:39:28.400 --> 00:39:32.519 that's the guy. And you know a billion people probably 708 00:39:32.559 --> 00:39:33.159 heard his voice. 709 00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:37.320 You know, it's like, oh, at least shit, So I. 710 00:39:37.360 --> 00:39:40.519 Mean, it's just amazing the weird little factoids and it's 711 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.320 an actual guy, even though it sounds computer generated nowadays 712 00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:45.800 though uh. 713 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:49.480 Yeah, he got paid two hundred dollars to do it right. 714 00:39:49.800 --> 00:39:51.760 That was the other funny part to me is his 715 00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:55.199 voice was used a billion times. And you know, if 716 00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:58.559 you gave him a penny, man, Yeah. 717 00:39:58.400 --> 00:40:02.039 Imagine the residuals if you just got a penny per 718 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:03.239 time it was played. 719 00:40:03.559 --> 00:40:04.880 That's exactly what I was just saying. 720 00:40:04.960 --> 00:40:07.599 If he got a penny for every time his voice 721 00:40:07.679 --> 00:40:11.400 was used, that guy probably would have lived longer because 722 00:40:11.400 --> 00:40:14.559 he could have afforded better healthcare, you know, but instead 723 00:40:14.920 --> 00:40:16.079 he got two hundred bucks. 724 00:40:17.119 --> 00:40:18.719 I mean North Carolina guy. 725 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:24.320 Yeah, he lived in newbern Uh huh, yeah, that was 726 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:24.960 you know what. 727 00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.199 That was why I tracked it down because when I 728 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.079 was living it now you're reminding me, when I was 729 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:30.199 living in North Carolina. 730 00:40:30.320 --> 00:40:31.800 That's why I tracked down who the hell he. 731 00:40:31.960 --> 00:40:36.599 Was because somebody locally told me, you know the guy 732 00:40:36.639 --> 00:40:39.960 who did that you got mail, he's actually from North Carolina. 733 00:40:40.000 --> 00:40:41.840 I say, he don't sound like he's from North Carolina. 734 00:40:41.880 --> 00:40:44.239 No, really, you go find out you're a researcher. Go ahead. 735 00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:46.559 I said, Okay, that's true. 736 00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:50.320 And the funny thing to me, of course, is that 737 00:40:50.400 --> 00:40:52.800 you know, I tracked this all down. It's useless information, 738 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:54.920 but what the hell. I might have mentioned it on 739 00:40:55.039 --> 00:40:57.639 my show like for five seconds, you know, back in 740 00:40:57.719 --> 00:40:59.199 twenty fourteen or something. 741 00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:01.639 But it was pretty scary, like I'm like, I can't 742 00:41:01.679 --> 00:41:03.559 believe that this guy, Yeah, go ahead. 743 00:41:05.000 --> 00:41:08.599 Interesting story. His wife worked for Quantum Computer Services, which 744 00:41:08.760 --> 00:41:12.159 later became AOL YEP, and they wanted a voice actor 745 00:41:12.239 --> 00:41:15.559 to do four things, and he recorded on a cassette 746 00:41:15.599 --> 00:41:19.880 recorder in his living room the phrase welcome, you've got 747 00:41:20.039 --> 00:41:25.079 mail files done and goodbye on a cassette recorder. They 748 00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:27.559 gave you two hundred bucks so I've basically maybe fifty 749 00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:28.880 bucks per phrase. 750 00:41:29.519 --> 00:41:33.280 Yeah, not bad, well, depending on your context. 751 00:41:33.400 --> 00:41:37.400 Right, Because nowadays a voice actor, you know, they have 752 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:40.840 the right to charge you if you use it in 753 00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:42.599 America unless you buy the rights. 754 00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:44.719 They have the right to charge you if you use 755 00:41:44.760 --> 00:41:46.639 it in Europe. That's a separate set of rights you 756 00:41:46.719 --> 00:41:47.159 have to buy. 757 00:41:47.880 --> 00:41:49.760 I mean, even the girl that you hear, you know 758 00:41:49.920 --> 00:41:53.880 that goes revelation through conversation, not when Kim does it, 759 00:41:53.960 --> 00:41:56.920 because Kim I have an agreement with. But the girl 760 00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:59.559 who does you know, the loose one that you hear, Deessa, 761 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:04.119 I had to purchase broadcast rights from her and everything else. 762 00:42:05.639 --> 00:42:07.639 But back when this guy recorded that, there was no 763 00:42:07.760 --> 00:42:08.639 technicality on that. 764 00:42:08.800 --> 00:42:10.519 Like you recorded it, you gave it to him, They 765 00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.280 had it, and you were paid for your services, end 766 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:17.280 of contract. But nowadays, you know, you decide to take 767 00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:19.880 it and use it somewhere else, you have to pay 768 00:42:20.000 --> 00:42:22.960 for it. Otherwise you could be liable to have to 769 00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:27.239 pay the person or the estate for the use. Isn't 770 00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:27.800 that insane. 771 00:42:31.199 --> 00:42:34.039 I'm trying to look up and see if anybody calculated 772 00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:37.000 the estimate of how many times it was said, Oh, well. 773 00:42:36.920 --> 00:42:40.199 That would be difficult, I think. But and again, all 774 00:42:40.239 --> 00:42:42.840 those phrases, by the way, were used because I remember 775 00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.400 all of them and thinking, you know, that must be 776 00:42:46.480 --> 00:42:50.239 the same guy. Because like most people back in the 777 00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.719 early dinosaur days of the Internet, I mean, almost anybody 778 00:42:53.760 --> 00:42:56.079 I ever knew used one of those AOL free discs, 779 00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:59.360 even if just to use the free you know time, 780 00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:01.800 Remember that used to get like, oh, We're going to 781 00:43:01.880 --> 00:43:05.639 give you three hours of free time on AOL. It's like, 782 00:43:05.719 --> 00:43:08.280 oh good, I'll have time to download a song and 783 00:43:08.440 --> 00:43:12.960 a picture if I'm lucky, right, I mean, you know, 784 00:43:13.119 --> 00:43:14.639 three hours on your phone line. 785 00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:17.440 It was crazy, crazy stuff. 786 00:43:17.960 --> 00:43:20.159 Oh I remember the first time someone sent me a 787 00:43:20.320 --> 00:43:24.719 huge jpeg and it took, oh god, thirty six thirty 788 00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:29.119 seven minutes just to download the image. Dial up was 789 00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:30.000 so much fun. 790 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:30.800 Oh god. 791 00:43:31.559 --> 00:43:31.760 Yeah. 792 00:43:31.880 --> 00:43:34.199 But you know, at the same time, you didn't stress 793 00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:36.280 about it because I would just turn around and go, 794 00:43:36.360 --> 00:43:37.920 all right, so I'm downloading something. 795 00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.320 I'm going to go out to you know, to McDonald's 796 00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:41.400 eat and come back. 797 00:43:42.039 --> 00:43:45.519 Yeah, because the computers weren't strong enough to download it 798 00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:48.400 and do other functions at the same time, right. 799 00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:51.239 So I would go just I was just like, all right, well, 800 00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.440 let's go to McDonald's get something to eat. I'll stop 801 00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.199 at the grocery store, pick up some milk and bread, 802 00:43:56.519 --> 00:43:59.039 and when we get back here, hopefully it's halfway. 803 00:43:58.679 --> 00:44:02.440 Done, you know, like you know, yeah, the guys at 804 00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.960 intail are going, you know, this is neat, but we 805 00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:06.800 need a processor right. 806 00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:10.599 Right, and then then you get the whole you know, 807 00:44:10.760 --> 00:44:14.199 race for the processors and all that. Anyway, we do 808 00:44:14.360 --> 00:44:16.159 have a caller, so I'm going to get to them, 809 00:44:16.960 --> 00:44:19.159 But anything else you want to talk about before we 810 00:44:19.280 --> 00:44:21.800 you know, besides the weird weather, and then we wind 811 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:23.280 up talking about aoil voices. 812 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:28.880 I was looking into this story in Tennessee, this explosives 813 00:44:28.960 --> 00:44:31.920 place that had an explosion this morning. They're still looking 814 00:44:31.960 --> 00:44:34.519 for nineteen people. It's pretty devastating. 815 00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:38.519 Yeah, pretty wild, pretty wild. 816 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:40.599 Like I said that, you know, there's a lot of 817 00:44:40.679 --> 00:44:43.920 weird bits and pieces of news, but you notice the 818 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.559 peaceful corner of the news now that you know the 819 00:44:46.639 --> 00:44:49.800 government is shut down, Like all they're doing is rerunning 820 00:44:49.840 --> 00:44:52.559 the same crap and a couple of announcements here and there, 821 00:44:52.559 --> 00:44:55.320 and then that's it. So we don't have the same 822 00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.360 constant flow of NonStop I mean, except you know, Trump 823 00:44:58.360 --> 00:44:59.679 passed to enter into the conversation. 824 00:45:00.199 --> 00:45:03.599 What, Yeah, they're they're filling it with more localized stuff. 825 00:45:03.920 --> 00:45:07.280 National news is, oh, well, the shutdown, and you know, 826 00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:09.199 and then they stole a couple of clips of people 827 00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:11.199 accusing each other of it, and then they go on 828 00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:14.039 to something else. But they're finally starting to see some 829 00:45:14.119 --> 00:45:15.079 local stuff come out. 830 00:45:15.440 --> 00:45:18.199 But don't you feel a little less stressed taking a 831 00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:19.719 look at that, you know, newsbrief now? 832 00:45:19.920 --> 00:45:25.000 Because absolutely, Because I would just as soon the damn 833 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:28.000 Congress shut down all but a week out of the year. 834 00:45:28.079 --> 00:45:29.800 We only pay them for a week. We'd save a 835 00:45:29.880 --> 00:45:32.039 whole hell of a lot of money. The less time 836 00:45:32.079 --> 00:45:35.159 they're in off or you know, in session, the less 837 00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:36.280 crap we got to pay for. 838 00:45:37.880 --> 00:45:40.559 Yeah, I can see that as a slogan. Turned the 839 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:44.400 Congress into a part time job. How about that the Congress? 840 00:45:44.400 --> 00:45:47.400 And yeah, make them part time workers. 841 00:45:48.079 --> 00:45:50.000 See if they like it, if they get furloughed, by 842 00:45:50.039 --> 00:45:52.239 the way, because that's another thing. You know, who's going 843 00:45:52.320 --> 00:45:53.760 to get paid, who's not going to get paid? 844 00:45:53.880 --> 00:45:54.760 You know, coming up soon? 845 00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:57.719 Because no government, you can't keep the presses running and 846 00:45:57.840 --> 00:46:00.519 printing the checks. Can you somebody to sit there and 847 00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:02.480 do paid. Well, are you going to make an exception? 848 00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:07.599 Yeah, I'm retired. I get mine anyways, So screw um. No, 849 00:46:07.800 --> 00:46:09.519 I think seriously, you think about it, though, we have 850 00:46:09.599 --> 00:46:12.960 a balanced budget balanced budget amendment, and they haven't passed 851 00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.639 a balanced budget since when back when Clinton was in 852 00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:18.719 in the nineties, so, you know, if nothing else, so 853 00:46:18.800 --> 00:46:21.079 it's been like twenty seven years, they haven't done their job. 854 00:46:21.719 --> 00:46:26.719 And I'm one of those that somehow we need to 855 00:46:26.800 --> 00:46:29.199 get the right people in to vote in that if 856 00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:31.719 they don't get a balanced budget by the time that 857 00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:35.119 they're supposed to do it, they don't get paid. You know, 858 00:46:35.559 --> 00:46:38.760 we pay them once a month. Screw that. You're now 859 00:46:38.840 --> 00:46:42.039 in session, y'all get your work done. We'll pay you 860 00:46:42.760 --> 00:46:44.360 do it just like they do contractors. 861 00:46:44.840 --> 00:46:47.360 Listen, I got no problem with the incentive program, you know, 862 00:46:48.039 --> 00:46:51.840 and I hear you. But here we are. You're having 863 00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:54.039 a terrible problem here. They'll be peting. 864 00:46:54.119 --> 00:46:56.639 That is, you expect people that make the rules to 865 00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:59.920 follow the rules, right, yeah, Oh well that's. 866 00:47:00.920 --> 00:47:04.199 You know, until we start holding them accountable for the rules, 867 00:47:04.280 --> 00:47:05.559 then they're not going to follow them. 868 00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:08.280 Well yeah, but until then they'll just point fingers at 869 00:47:08.320 --> 00:47:10.400 each other and make you believe that you got a choice. 870 00:47:11.000 --> 00:47:14.440 It's yeah. Meanwhile, the whole system. And by the way, 871 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.599 they if they do shut down long enough, you will 872 00:47:16.639 --> 00:47:19.639 have problems getting your payments. You know that, because I 873 00:47:19.719 --> 00:47:23.000 mean that happened what under Obama? I think right where 874 00:47:23.039 --> 00:47:26.199 there was a shutdown and you know them. 875 00:47:26.239 --> 00:47:29.599 But no, there are certain a lot of people don't 876 00:47:29.639 --> 00:47:31.760 realize when they stay shut down. The part of the 877 00:47:31.880 --> 00:47:35.800 government that shuts down is the part that is for 878 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.360 your convenience. Like when you go to national parks and 879 00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:42.880 there's no park rangers, Oh, so we got to shut 880 00:47:42.920 --> 00:47:47.880 it down. Or you go to any of these national locations, Oh, well, 881 00:47:47.960 --> 00:47:50.159 you know we're closed because we you know, people that 882 00:47:50.320 --> 00:47:53.159 are not working, they're on furlough. That's the part that 883 00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:54.519 they do to piss you off. 884 00:47:55.119 --> 00:47:55.280 Yea. 885 00:47:55.480 --> 00:47:57.920 When it comes to the big things, there are certain 886 00:47:58.039 --> 00:48:01.800 things that the check goes out regardless because it's exempt 887 00:48:01.800 --> 00:48:04.440 and will not really exempt. It's out of the system 888 00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:08.159 of furlough, meaning Social Security and things like that. Now, 889 00:48:08.199 --> 00:48:09.920 if you have a problem and have to call into 890 00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:12.800 an office, you're probably not gonna find anybody. 891 00:48:12.920 --> 00:48:15.639 Yeah, I understand that, but during Obama, you know. 892 00:48:15.800 --> 00:48:19.360 My social Security check is gonna come because that's something 893 00:48:19.440 --> 00:48:21.480 that's not affected by any of the shutdowns. 894 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:25.239 Okay, but during the Obama administration it was. 895 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:28.960 I'm just pointing out there is a certain level of 896 00:48:29.000 --> 00:48:32.239 shutdown where that can be affected because I know social 897 00:48:32.239 --> 00:48:33.159 Security checks. 898 00:48:33.000 --> 00:48:36.159 Stopped during that time. I was living with a girl who. 899 00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.360 Like my father. Hang on, I'm gonna have retirement checks 900 00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:43.280 from the military, and so his check is held up. Okay, 901 00:48:43.360 --> 00:48:46.440 I'm bringing to other agencies the checks go out right. 902 00:48:46.599 --> 00:48:49.920 But that's the thing is that incrementally it'll move toward 903 00:48:50.079 --> 00:48:53.519 more state not getting done. Jimmy James, I've been trying 904 00:48:53.519 --> 00:48:54.679 to bring you out on the line for a couple 905 00:48:54.719 --> 00:48:57.000 of minutes and I got you now. Oh any hung 906 00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:00.639 No is he there? He's still there? Somebody else hung up? Okay, 907 00:49:01.159 --> 00:49:03.159 there you go, Jimmy, still here go? Ahad, Jimmy, what's 908 00:49:03.239 --> 00:49:03.679 on your mind? 909 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:07.800 Oh? 910 00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:11.719 Just propping on? How does the day find you, gentlemen? 911 00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:14.440 Ah, So you weren't listening to the early part of 912 00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:22.440 the show, Eh, I've heard nothing. Ah, Okay, Well, we 913 00:49:22.559 --> 00:49:24.880 talked about a bunch of things. I mean, we had 914 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:26.920 a little trouble hooking up with be Pete first. Then 915 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:30.199 I talked about uh uh, let's see my my friend 916 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.599 brother Frank Manucci. I talked about good Lord. We talked 917 00:49:34.599 --> 00:49:36.840 about apps and the guy who actually did the you 918 00:49:37.079 --> 00:49:39.800 Got mail voice on AOL. 919 00:49:40.119 --> 00:49:44.039 We talked about dial up. We talked a little bit 920 00:49:44.079 --> 00:49:45.239 about the conference. 921 00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:51.480 Where I about where I I caught in from AOL disc. 922 00:49:51.440 --> 00:49:54.159 From moving Forward, okay, cool seems. 923 00:49:53.880 --> 00:49:56.760 To make lovely when out of those discs. 924 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:02.280 Really, I never thought of that. I never thought of that. 925 00:50:03.519 --> 00:50:06.599 I did know guys that saved up somehow, like hundreds 926 00:50:06.639 --> 00:50:10.199 of them because they were still good for a long time. 927 00:50:11.719 --> 00:50:14.039 And you know, it was only recently I think AOL 928 00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.079 actually got rid of it's dial up service altogether. There 929 00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:20.559 was like seven people in the country using it still 930 00:50:21.239 --> 00:50:26.199 and they just finally canceled it, I think recently. But anyway, 931 00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:28.400 what's on your mind this week? 932 00:50:28.480 --> 00:50:28.760 Jimmy? 933 00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:33.639 Good question? 934 00:50:34.239 --> 00:50:35.920 Didn't you get any of my emails? 935 00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:38.280 Can you not read my emails? Is they have to do? 936 00:50:38.639 --> 00:50:42.280 Is some kind of email clients. 937 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:45.920 Which one I know we talked about and I mentioned 938 00:50:46.000 --> 00:50:49.280 several times the thing about umbrella man. Let me see, 939 00:50:49.360 --> 00:50:52.599 did I miss something from Jimmy? I don't think so. 940 00:50:52.719 --> 00:50:53.400 But I'm looking at me. 941 00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.599 Oh, I'll stand by nothing to do with the umbrella man. 942 00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:00.239 See. 943 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:02.000 I Well, let's see. 944 00:51:02.079 --> 00:51:06.719 I sent one in regard to hy you a paper 945 00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:11.079 for your weekly reader, and I sent you, Uh. I 946 00:51:11.159 --> 00:51:13.760 actually started to write the thing, and then I after 947 00:51:14.159 --> 00:51:18.400 the first the title, first paragraph, I started thinking, I 948 00:51:18.519 --> 00:51:20.760 better check with Chuck to see if this is even 949 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.760 something wants before I write the thing. So I finished 950 00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:27.960 it in outline and I sent you a version of 951 00:51:28.079 --> 00:51:32.079 it as an attachment. Was waiting to hear from. 952 00:51:31.920 --> 00:51:32.280 You on that. 953 00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:35.039 Oh, I'm sorry, Jimmy, I don't see it in my email, 954 00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.880 so I don't know. I'll have to look the. 955 00:51:41.719 --> 00:51:43.599 Email. Is I forgot? 956 00:51:47.199 --> 00:51:49.320 Well, let's see the last one I see from you. 957 00:51:49.719 --> 00:51:56.039 Jimmy says a odd name came up during the water Yeah, 958 00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:59.679 I'm pretty big James McCord. Okay, so that came in. 959 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:06.880 But I didn't Well, let's sit that one. 960 00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:12.320 I can't believe you didn't mention that what Larry Hancock 961 00:52:12.400 --> 00:52:16.239 didn't find that of any sort of interest. Isn't it 962 00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:20.079 a little odd that a dead man's participating in Watergate? 963 00:52:20.840 --> 00:52:25.280 As per the testimony of a Soviet mole. I mean 964 00:52:25.360 --> 00:52:28.719 the whole Harvey thing with the FAA license now, and 965 00:52:29.039 --> 00:52:30.559 that's all real fascinating. 966 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:35.599 Well, I went with what Larry wanted to talk about 967 00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:39.320 that night. But you know, so that's where we went. 968 00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:41.000 I don't know if you could tell, but I was 969 00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:45.039 just kind of working with where he was going. But 970 00:52:45.880 --> 00:52:47.599 did you Did you happen to send this over to 971 00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:48.119 Larry too? 972 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:52.159 No? 973 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:55.599 I did not. I thought you would bring it up 974 00:52:55.679 --> 00:53:00.639 to him and maybe ask him about it, something like that. 975 00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:05.119 Okay, I got it. 976 00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:09.039 I just found Jimmy's email with my spam folder. 977 00:53:09.599 --> 00:53:12.400 Oh you found okay, So what's in your spam folder 978 00:53:12.440 --> 00:53:12.920 from Jimmy? 979 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.639 Hold on? I just sent it over to my regular folder. 980 00:53:18.119 --> 00:53:19.960 I marked it not spam, gotcha. 981 00:53:20.039 --> 00:53:22.239 I might have been on Mondays here ago. 982 00:53:22.480 --> 00:53:24.840 I'll check my spam too, because I might have who knows, 983 00:53:24.920 --> 00:53:27.639 maybe something you sent god in my spam folder to Jimmy. 984 00:53:27.679 --> 00:53:28.079 I'll check. 985 00:53:29.079 --> 00:53:33.679 But frankly, you know, I'm not prepared obviously for whatever 986 00:53:33.760 --> 00:53:38.840 it was. But you know, yeah, I didn't get to that. 987 00:53:39.000 --> 00:53:41.039 I've been working on a bunch of different things, and 988 00:53:42.119 --> 00:53:45.199 people even kept me on the phone past my airtime yesterday, 989 00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.800 which meant I couldn't even do the show because it 990 00:53:48.920 --> 00:53:50.840 was like, by the time I was done, my throat 991 00:53:50.960 --> 00:53:54.840 was sore, and I had spent a lot of time 992 00:53:55.159 --> 00:54:00.920 redundantly explaining to people certain things, and uh, you know, 993 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:03.400 I don't know how many different ways I have to 994 00:54:03.440 --> 00:54:07.679 relate it in English to get certain things across. But 995 00:54:08.719 --> 00:54:10.599 you know, I'm trying to do a bunch of different things, Jimmy, 996 00:54:10.599 --> 00:54:13.840 And I'm sorry if I missed capitalizing on that with Larry, 997 00:54:14.440 --> 00:54:16.760 but I just went with what he was talking about 998 00:54:16.880 --> 00:54:19.760 that night. He wanted to discuss this and the you know, 999 00:54:19.880 --> 00:54:22.239 what can we have learned recently? I asked him that 1000 00:54:22.360 --> 00:54:28.360 several times and he didn't touch this. So can't get 1001 00:54:28.360 --> 00:54:29.440 to everything in an hour. 1002 00:54:30.840 --> 00:54:34.679 I did. I did listen to the show where I did. 1003 00:54:35.559 --> 00:54:42.559 Okay, boy, here was another thing that I found interesting. Well, 1004 00:54:42.599 --> 00:54:45.239 I don't know why go on something? And did you 1005 00:54:45.360 --> 00:54:49.400 get so b You guys got the email, Let's see 1006 00:54:49.559 --> 00:54:50.360 which one is it? 1007 00:54:51.159 --> 00:54:55.559 You get the one about the FBI man going into 1008 00:54:55.679 --> 00:55:01.480 the theater with the police to get Oswald? Was this something? 1009 00:55:01.599 --> 00:55:01.639 No? 1010 00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:05.559 I got the one that when you asked about during 1011 00:55:05.599 --> 00:55:08.239 the Watergate hearings, James McCord said a name. 1012 00:55:08.920 --> 00:55:11.239 Yeah, No, I don't. I don't have the one with 1013 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:13.719 the FBI man in the movie theater either. 1014 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:19.360 I think, but well, that one's a pretty good Okay, 1015 00:55:19.480 --> 00:55:22.599 well the one, uh, that's another good one. 1016 00:55:22.840 --> 00:55:28.480 Vp uh yes, uh one Phelipe. 1017 00:55:28.960 --> 00:55:34.920 Diego de Satiago, that dis bastards got six months. I 1018 00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:38.079 don't know. I'm just calling him Satiago. 1019 00:55:39.119 --> 00:55:39.239 Uh. 1020 00:55:40.159 --> 00:55:44.239 He's supposed to have died two three times in the sixties. Nonetheless, 1021 00:55:44.559 --> 00:55:48.960 Soviet mal James McCord testified to Congress for wherever the 1022 00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:51.639 that's work that well. 1023 00:55:51.519 --> 00:55:55.079 They pushed him. Turns out there with you guys that 1024 00:55:55.239 --> 00:55:59.039 didn't anticipate in the second Watergate, that didn't participate in the. 1025 00:55:59.119 --> 00:55:59.960 First water Game. 1026 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:03.760 He claimed he couldn't recognize them, so the FBI showed 1027 00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:07.840 him pictures. It's uh what Well, the name I found 1028 00:56:07.920 --> 00:56:08.800 that interesting was. 1029 00:56:09.840 --> 00:56:14.800 This said that guy's up by de suy. 1030 00:56:14.960 --> 00:56:18.639 Uh sucker another, to which I said, oh, that's interesting. 1031 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.719 How many times is that guy supposed to have been. 1032 00:56:22.639 --> 00:56:26.039 Dead by then and now he's back alive of participating 1033 00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:28.400 in Watergate? What's up with that? 1034 00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:30.760 Yeah, you know, i'd have to go ahead. 1035 00:56:31.400 --> 00:56:33.119 I'd have to go ahead and go over the specific 1036 00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:36.280 Jimmy because I worked on Watergate, like in the nineties, 1037 00:56:37.039 --> 00:56:39.360 And let me tell you one thing that I discovered 1038 00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:41.280 that was really weird. When you start, you know, getting 1039 00:56:41.320 --> 00:56:45.679 into people's associations and things, I started getting confused with 1040 00:56:45.880 --> 00:56:48.719 these you know, these guys that got eighty different names. Yeah, 1041 00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:54.079 because you know, you got all these Latin names, and 1042 00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:56.800 he shuffle them around a little, you get a different guy. 1043 00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:01.440 And in some cases, these guys were con used for 1044 00:57:01.559 --> 00:57:04.159 each other. Like I know that there was a couple 1045 00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:06.800 of guys that had the same name, you know what 1046 00:57:06.880 --> 00:57:09.320 I mean, where it's like. And meanwhile, they might have 1047 00:57:09.360 --> 00:57:12.000 been in proximity to something else. They might have been 1048 00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.559 an anti Castro Cuban, or they might have been connected 1049 00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:17.480 to the Mexican situation. Uh, and they could have a 1050 00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:22.800 similar name, like real similar. That kind of stuff started happening, 1051 00:57:22.840 --> 00:57:25.719 which is why we had to create a separate index 1052 00:57:25.800 --> 00:57:30.159 for these people, Okay, in order to keep it all straight. 1053 00:57:30.280 --> 00:57:33.800 When we started looking at associations that were ancillary to 1054 00:57:33.880 --> 00:57:36.840 Watergate in the nineties, we were doing this and it 1055 00:57:36.960 --> 00:57:38.119 was difficult. 1056 00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:39.960 To be honest with you. 1057 00:57:40.079 --> 00:57:42.599 I mean, one slip of a you know, a Santiago 1058 00:57:42.719 --> 00:57:46.079 instead of a Diego and you got a totally different guy, 1059 00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:50.119 or you have the same guy, just somebody didn't, you know, 1060 00:57:50.360 --> 00:57:57.440 record the name correctly. And that happened many times, you know, yes, 1061 00:57:57.519 --> 00:57:57.960 so go ahead. 1062 00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:03.159 It's like you said, the Cubans in particular, like they 1063 00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:06.719 could literally have twelve names. So glad, so much gun 1064 00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:11.280 in gim somewhere computer running. I'm gonna have to look 1065 00:58:11.320 --> 00:58:11.599 it up. 1066 00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:12.280 Yeah. 1067 00:58:14.000 --> 00:58:17.079 I just came across where they say he and he 1068 00:58:17.239 --> 00:58:22.719 had a connection with Philippe de Diego spelled with an 1069 00:58:22.960 --> 00:58:26.760 F L F E L I P E day Diego, 1070 00:58:27.960 --> 00:58:28.800 like San Diego. 1071 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:36.679 I believe that's Felipe Sleepe de Santiago. That's the same dude, 1072 00:58:37.119 --> 00:58:38.880 This is Felipe Diego. 1073 00:58:40.039 --> 00:58:41.559 Yeah, but you see where the problem is. 1074 00:58:41.679 --> 00:58:44.880 You go de Diego de Santiago and you got a 1075 00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:47.519 different guy, or maybe you got the same guy, and 1076 00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:52.440 you know, and there you go and Felipe Okay, that 1077 00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:53.079 could be spelled. 1078 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:58.000 The other name he went by was Philip de Diego. 1079 00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:02.159 Well that's not so bad, you know, but I'm telling you, 1080 00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:04.840 when they start like mixing these other nick forget it. 1081 00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:09.679 It becomes like a labyrinth within itself. I'm assuming it's 1082 00:59:09.719 --> 00:59:14.280 intentional but but I don't know if it's just a 1083 00:59:14.480 --> 00:59:17.800 product of g since you're not so familiar with these names. 1084 00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:20.159 If it's you know, just one of those things that 1085 00:59:20.239 --> 00:59:23.320 winds up confusing it, you know what I mean, Not you, Jim. 1086 00:59:24.679 --> 00:59:29.199 Good Well, I'm so partially it is intentional, and a 1087 00:59:29.280 --> 00:59:32.360 lot of these guys were using their names of each 1088 00:59:32.440 --> 00:59:36.679 other to really mess up one up, so Fleepe. 1089 00:59:37.159 --> 00:59:40.679 Might have really been Bernardo instance. 1090 00:59:40.960 --> 00:59:43.679 Right there you go, There you go, there's I just 1091 00:59:43.760 --> 00:59:46.079 put a link in the room, Jimmy, if you're in 1092 00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:48.320 the room, chat room, I just put a link to 1093 00:59:48.400 --> 00:59:52.239 an article on real clear politics water date at fifty 1094 00:59:52.400 --> 00:59:55.159 and they mentioned this Philip de Diego. 1095 00:59:58.239 --> 01:00:02.280 There you go. So at least somebody saw it besides you, Jimmy. 1096 01:00:02.360 --> 01:00:04.719 But like I said, it becomes. 1097 01:00:04.440 --> 01:00:09.119 Such a labyrinth, you know that, that I would not 1098 01:00:09.239 --> 01:00:11.679 even want to speak on it unless I really went 1099 01:00:11.760 --> 01:00:13.559 through it and made sure I knew who the hell 1100 01:00:13.559 --> 01:00:17.519 I was talking about, because I've seen people make mistakes before. 1101 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:18.119 You know. 1102 01:00:19.039 --> 01:00:21.440 Uh, it's like that Bobert. 1103 01:00:21.559 --> 01:00:24.400 It's like that Bobert thing where she goes, well, mister Stone, 1104 01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:27.519 you wrote a book about LBJ killing the president. Uh, 1105 01:00:27.920 --> 01:00:30.760 you know, that's just the confusion of a single last name. 1106 01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:31.679 Uh. 1107 01:00:31.880 --> 01:00:34.519 In this case, you got you know, four names to 1108 01:00:34.599 --> 01:00:36.880 these guys, and then maybe. 1109 01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.400 Somebody else is in their family calls them by a nickname, 1110 01:00:40.320 --> 01:00:43.639 you know, and it's it's a mess to try and unravel. 1111 01:00:43.679 --> 01:00:45.599 It's not a simple logie. I just mixed up a 1112 01:00:45.679 --> 01:00:46.320 last name. 1113 01:00:46.920 --> 01:00:51.079 Because how many detores, you know, how many detours are there? 1114 01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:52.159 Right? 1115 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.480 And then get rid of the d you got Torreses. 1116 01:00:55.639 --> 01:01:00.199 I mean, dude, it's endless. Uh So, you know, it's 1117 01:01:00.239 --> 01:01:02.280 hard to nail it down. Like you said, I think 1118 01:01:02.280 --> 01:01:05.880 it's partially intentional, but on the other hand, I think 1119 01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:10.280 it's just convenient for confusion as well, because it's very 1120 01:01:10.360 --> 01:01:13.360 simple to you know, if it doesn't exactly work, it's 1121 01:01:13.400 --> 01:01:15.400 sort of like that old thing of Hew. Come on 1122 01:01:15.519 --> 01:01:19.639 this record, it says Harvey Lee Oswald. Yeah, it's just 1123 01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.920 somebody typed it in the wrong order. You know, let's 1124 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:25.559 be real. It's not a separate guy. You know what 1125 01:01:25.599 --> 01:01:28.039 I'm saying with Lee, Harvey Oswald. You've heard that argument 1126 01:01:28.079 --> 01:01:30.639 in the past, right, well, in some records, it says 1127 01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:34.880 Harvey Lee Oswald. Yeah, No, it's just somebody did it, 1128 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:38.280 you know, It's like my first and middle name Charles Edward. 1129 01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:42.079 If somebody called me Edward Charles on a document, you 1130 01:01:42.119 --> 01:01:43.519 wouldn't say it's a different guy. 1131 01:01:44.719 --> 01:01:44.880 You know. 1132 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.199 You look at it and you go, obviously somebody switched 1133 01:01:47.239 --> 01:01:50.440 the names here, that's all this is. And on an 1134 01:01:50.440 --> 01:01:52.480 old typewriter having to do it by hand. Yeah, that 1135 01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:57.079 may be possible, real possible. You know, somebody just didn't 1136 01:01:57.079 --> 01:02:01.559 get their second cup of coffee of the day. The 1137 01:02:01.880 --> 01:02:04.960 more logical answer, right, then there's absolutely two different guys. 1138 01:02:05.000 --> 01:02:06.679 Because now we got a couple of records and say, 1139 01:02:07.119 --> 01:02:09.000 Harvey Lee Oswald, you know what I'm. 1140 01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:17.280 Saying, Yeah, that could happen, but. 1141 01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:23.760 Uh yeah, I'm gonna have to do some more studying 1142 01:02:23.840 --> 01:02:29.559 on a couple of these Cubans that perplexed me alastly. 1143 01:02:29.679 --> 01:02:31.000 There were so many of them. 1144 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:38.800 I started hispanic solid right, so faving them in to 1145 01:02:38.920 --> 01:02:42.400 one dude till until needed later. 1146 01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:46.039 I understand. That's why you end up putting them all 1147 01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.400 in one. And I physically did this with the Watergate 1148 01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.519 work in New York right where it's like, okay, let's 1149 01:02:51.679 --> 01:02:54.519 just I know who it's racist. Now I'm just gonna 1150 01:02:54.519 --> 01:02:59.119 put all the Cubans here. Okay, these are Cubans. I 1151 01:02:59.199 --> 01:03:03.920 know they're Cubans. Let's separate the Cubans from let's just 1152 01:03:04.000 --> 01:03:07.320 say literally the Mexicans or the guys from Guatemala that 1153 01:03:07.480 --> 01:03:09.440 happen to be working here, because there are some of 1154 01:03:09.480 --> 01:03:09.880 those too. 1155 01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:14.440 They're not all Cuban, right, So let's separate that first. 1156 01:03:14.519 --> 01:03:17.440 You shake a few of those out, and you start 1157 01:03:17.519 --> 01:03:20.119 racially separating a little bit, and not as your main 1158 01:03:20.239 --> 01:03:26.559 method of sorting, but as a partial helper here. Okay, 1159 01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.360 if you know these guys are all definitely Cuban from Cuba, 1160 01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:31.440 that's one thing. 1161 01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:32.639 Now, you know these guys are. 1162 01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:37.760 Cuban in origin, but they're not really from Cuba because 1163 01:03:37.840 --> 01:03:40.920 they've lived most of their lives here or they were 1164 01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:44.679 born here. Let's separate them that way, too, right, And 1165 01:03:44.840 --> 01:03:47.239 when you do that, some of these names peel apart 1166 01:03:47.239 --> 01:03:50.559 a little easier. But you know, some people would say 1167 01:03:50.599 --> 01:03:52.639 that's wrong to do it that way, but I'll tell you, 1168 01:03:52.800 --> 01:03:55.840 we did it that way in order to just begin 1169 01:03:56.000 --> 01:03:58.960 some sorting processes regarding these guys, because it gets crazy, 1170 01:04:00.480 --> 01:04:03.159 it gets really crazy. And then God help you if 1171 01:04:03.239 --> 01:04:06.880 somebody's named after somebody else, because that happened too. 1172 01:04:08.360 --> 01:04:10.719 You know, if you have a teenage. 1173 01:04:10.320 --> 01:04:14.440 Guy who fathers a child and now he's got a 1174 01:04:14.559 --> 01:04:17.960 child that has a nearly identical name to him, the 1175 01:04:18.079 --> 01:04:21.119 two of them could be operationally active at the same time. 1176 01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:24.800 I don't remember the name specifically, but I know we 1177 01:04:24.920 --> 01:04:29.639 found that twice going through Watergate stuff, and I mean 1178 01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:32.400 the stuff that the public would never bother with that 1179 01:04:32.519 --> 01:04:34.079 we were going through that we got our hands on, 1180 01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.599 and yeah, we found father and son with slightly different names. 1181 01:04:42.719 --> 01:04:43.440 And what are you gonna do. 1182 01:04:43.519 --> 01:04:46.400 There's like, the guy has a kid when he's seventeen 1183 01:04:46.519 --> 01:04:50.679 or sixteen, and now he's, you know, in his thirties, 1184 01:04:50.760 --> 01:04:54.079 late thirties. How old is his son? Right, his son's 1185 01:04:54.119 --> 01:04:58.719 twenty years old. They can both be operational now same time. 1186 01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.440 So that was something else that we discovered going through 1187 01:05:03.480 --> 01:05:07.360 those files. A couple of couple of father and son teams, which, 1188 01:05:07.480 --> 01:05:10.159 by the way, in some cases the father might hand 1189 01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:14.039 off the son some of the uh, you know, access 1190 01:05:14.159 --> 01:05:15.880 he has to government funding and things. 1191 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:21.360 Right, just just a theoretical, let's say, to put it out. 1192 01:05:21.239 --> 01:05:30.440 There, peculiar knowledge. Mm hmm, heave my padron peculiar knowledge, 1193 01:05:30.679 --> 01:05:31.119 that's right. 1194 01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:35.840 Yep, yeah, so you know, logical problems. 1195 01:05:39.599 --> 01:05:44.239 Uh well, I was just gonna bring this by. Have 1196 01:05:44.440 --> 01:05:48.239 you guys seen the wiring into a bunch of document 1197 01:05:48.400 --> 01:05:55.960 says reading where basically, everyone, oh, well, a good year 1198 01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:03.400 after Oswald's in the Soviet Union? Why is the CIA, 1199 01:06:04.119 --> 01:06:07.639 FBI and everyone else keep trying to see if he 1200 01:06:07.920 --> 01:06:15.159 is enrolled in that crazy Albert Schweitzer college because I 1201 01:06:15.400 --> 01:06:22.039 thought supposedly he said that you remember the big Soviet 1202 01:06:22.159 --> 01:06:27.079 embassy or Soviet deal where he supposedly said all these things, 1203 01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:32.239 I'm going and I'm giving everything to Russia, and supposedly 1204 01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:39.239 the State Department slash CI agents and apparently the marine 1205 01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:43.840 s guarding the door just oh, ok, have at her. Well. 1206 01:06:44.280 --> 01:06:48.480 I doubt that happened clearly, because they honestly thought that 1207 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:51.159 Pool might be going to this college and they were 1208 01:06:51.239 --> 01:06:54.840 trying to find him, find out what happened to him. Clearly, 1209 01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:58.360 he didn't say nothing like what they claimed. Well that's 1210 01:06:59.320 --> 01:07:00.960 applied what I'm. 1211 01:07:01.519 --> 01:07:04.920 Well, there's that, but also don't forget you know, Marguerite 1212 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:10.159 Oswald is pestering the FBI figure out what happened to 1213 01:07:10.199 --> 01:07:14.280 my son for a little bit, right, so she's you know, 1214 01:07:14.400 --> 01:07:15.440 writing letters. 1215 01:07:15.159 --> 01:07:19.519 Making phone calls apparently to the FBI. Uh with this 1216 01:07:19.880 --> 01:07:23.000 partially what's that be? 1217 01:07:23.039 --> 01:07:27.920 A year later she actually called them and yeah, bizarre 1218 01:07:28.119 --> 01:07:32.079 we talked to well anyway, she said, well, I'll tank 1219 01:07:32.159 --> 01:07:35.039 for him to come home. Now from six months later 1220 01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:36.000 he was home. 1221 01:07:36.559 --> 01:07:36.760 Yeah. 1222 01:07:38.039 --> 01:07:42.039 So look, I'm not saying that that's an answer here, 1223 01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:44.400 but that is part of why you see the FBI 1224 01:07:44.599 --> 01:07:47.800 interested because that wasn't her first contact, that phone call. 1225 01:07:48.760 --> 01:07:51.039 I know they say it is, but I don't think so. 1226 01:07:52.920 --> 01:07:56.519 And she made claims and she did have papers kind 1227 01:07:56.559 --> 01:07:59.679 of showing that there might have been previous contacts to that, 1228 01:07:59.840 --> 01:08:04.079 like almost a couple of months in you know, where 1229 01:08:04.159 --> 01:08:05.320 she's making inquiries what. 1230 01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:10.800 Happened to my son? To the FBI. So you know, 1231 01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:13.119 I'm not saying we have an answer here. 1232 01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:15.519 All I'm saying is that, look, there's a lot of 1233 01:08:15.559 --> 01:08:20.000 weird things about this, you know, residency that Oswald takes 1234 01:08:20.079 --> 01:08:21.560 up in Minsk, you know what. 1235 01:08:21.560 --> 01:08:22.720 I'm saying, and. 1236 01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:26.800 Who he was doing it for and why and why 1237 01:08:26.960 --> 01:08:29.760 he you know, asks more than one woman to marry 1238 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:30.760 him and everything else. 1239 01:08:30.960 --> 01:08:36.680 I mean a lot of strangeness there. So I you know, 1240 01:08:36.760 --> 01:08:38.039 I don't know how to unpack it all. 1241 01:08:38.279 --> 01:08:40.319 But I do know that we don't know the full 1242 01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:45.159 and complete story about it, and the various contacts with 1243 01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:49.119 agencies that people had that were interviewing them and everything else. 1244 01:08:49.239 --> 01:08:51.520 I mean, it gets to be a very very strange, 1245 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:52.800 little shadowy world there. 1246 01:08:54.279 --> 01:08:54.880 Just saying. 1247 01:08:59.239 --> 01:09:01.800 Yes is what it is. 1248 01:09:02.840 --> 01:09:08.479 I think some people are making it unduly complicated. At 1249 01:09:08.520 --> 01:09:12.720 the end of the day, you need to break your 1250 01:09:12.760 --> 01:09:15.479 bill a good to move on with the thing. What 1251 01:09:15.560 --> 01:09:18.199 do you think the Warrant Commission report is? It's a 1252 01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:25.319 prosecution document. They prosecuted a dead man. Right, I'm going 1253 01:09:25.399 --> 01:09:30.399 to write outer narrative, well my own legal well never 1254 01:09:30.479 --> 01:09:31.399 mind when I'm up to. 1255 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.079 Hey, fair enough, But yeah, no, it was. It was 1256 01:09:36.119 --> 01:09:40.119 definitely a prosecutorial preparation. I mean they created four teams 1257 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:43.840 of legal people, et cetera. And each one of the 1258 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:45.840 teams had a title to them, and three out of 1259 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:48.640 the four had the name Oswald in it. So clearly 1260 01:09:48.760 --> 01:09:52.800 they had a you know, predetermined target here. They weren't 1261 01:09:52.840 --> 01:09:56.840 doing an open ended investigation let's see where the information lies. 1262 01:09:57.399 --> 01:10:00.600 They were merely trying to fill out the process scutorial 1263 01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:06.239 brief and that's what they did. You know, We could 1264 01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.159 argue about the why of it, but that's what they did. 1265 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:10.720 Essentially. 1266 01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:12.479 That's what that you know, eight hundred and eighty eight 1267 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:16.520 pages ends up being, is a very long prosecutorial brief 1268 01:10:16.600 --> 01:10:20.680 that report, would you agree, Yeah, a. 1269 01:10:20.840 --> 01:10:23.520 Tale And I'm sure that's what they would have told 1270 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.720 in court had he lived, that would have been the 1271 01:10:26.840 --> 01:10:31.479 story that would have been there. You know how persecutors 1272 01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:37.920 do it. They create, literally create a narrative. Mostly it's false. 1273 01:10:40.239 --> 01:10:41.039 Because they got it. 1274 01:10:41.279 --> 01:10:44.159 They feel the need to tell the jury a story, 1275 01:10:44.800 --> 01:10:47.880 right when they don't have the facts. Right, if you 1276 01:10:47.960 --> 01:10:50.520 don't have the facts, they tell you a big story. 1277 01:10:51.000 --> 01:10:54.000 And the only reason why it's not properly a prosecutorial 1278 01:10:54.079 --> 01:10:58.920 brief is because you're missing from the process the ability 1279 01:10:59.000 --> 01:11:04.079 to have a live accused. That's what's missing, because right there, 1280 01:11:04.640 --> 01:11:07.439 they don't have the ability to face their accuser. They 1281 01:11:07.479 --> 01:11:09.640 don't have the ability to cross examine witnesses. 1282 01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:16.319 Right, good, well, yes, it's just yeah, you can't that's 1283 01:11:16.600 --> 01:11:21.560 the problem. Right, we cannot prosecute the dead. Right, However, 1284 01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:27.560 what we could do is vindicate the falsely accused dead. 1285 01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:30.000 And I'll just leave it at that. 1286 01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.760 No, that is exactly correct. It only works in one direction. Now, 1287 01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:35.560 either we vindicate him or we don't. 1288 01:11:36.319 --> 01:11:36.439 Uh. 1289 01:11:36.640 --> 01:11:39.880 But you can't prosecute him because again, from our system, 1290 01:11:40.000 --> 01:11:44.960 you're missing the adversarial process. You can't cross examine your 1291 01:11:45.119 --> 01:11:48.199 you can't cross examine nor face your accusers on any 1292 01:11:48.319 --> 01:11:52.720 level because you're dead, so therefore can't be prosecuted. 1293 01:11:52.880 --> 01:11:57.319 It's just that simple, you know. So this is where 1294 01:11:57.359 --> 01:11:57.840 it lies. Now. 1295 01:11:57.920 --> 01:12:02.279 We could, like you said, exonerate him because exculpatory information 1296 01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:06.880 could be presented in such a way that you need 1297 01:12:06.960 --> 01:12:09.199 a different option from this. This is not a viable 1298 01:12:09.359 --> 01:12:13.640 even close to a reasonable doubt situation here. And basically, 1299 01:12:13.720 --> 01:12:18.399 you got to destroy the prosecutor's brief effectively, or at 1300 01:12:18.479 --> 01:12:21.199 least enough so that there's nothing there that could, you know, 1301 01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:24.119 possibly resemble even the beginning of a case. 1302 01:12:24.760 --> 01:12:26.680 That's the only thing to do. And that's why initially 1303 01:12:26.720 --> 01:12:27.479 there were Warren. 1304 01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:33.079 Commissioned critics, right, not researchers on everything. I bring that 1305 01:12:33.199 --> 01:12:35.079 up with a good reason all the time. It's based 1306 01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:37.960 on exactly what we're talking about right now, Jimmy. So 1307 01:12:38.199 --> 01:12:40.000 you know, I know I sound stupid to a lot 1308 01:12:40.039 --> 01:12:41.520 of people, but I'm not quite as dumb as I 1309 01:12:41.600 --> 01:12:46.399 sound apparently all right. I'm not saying that to you, Jimmy, 1310 01:12:46.399 --> 01:12:52.960 I'm saying that to others, but anyway, Yeah, So anything 1311 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:54.319 else on your mind, James. 1312 01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:00.800 Oh, chuck, I got a million things my mind all 1313 01:13:00.880 --> 01:13:03.439 the time. But if there's other callers, might as well 1314 01:13:03.560 --> 01:13:04.439 bring them all and all. 1315 01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:06.800 Well, you know what, I'm looking at him now, So 1316 01:13:06.840 --> 01:13:10.600 I'm gonna put you on hold and take them in order. Pete, Pete, 1317 01:13:10.600 --> 01:13:12.159 you got anything you want to add before. 1318 01:13:11.960 --> 01:13:17.039 I do that? Just real fast, no, go ahead, go ahead, cool, all. 1319 01:13:17.000 --> 01:13:20.279 Right, let's get to him. So I got a six 1320 01:13:20.399 --> 01:13:21.960 one seven caller? How you doing? 1321 01:13:24.079 --> 01:13:24.439 All right? 1322 01:13:24.479 --> 01:13:24.960 How you doing? 1323 01:13:25.439 --> 01:13:29.640 I'm actually, uh, I'm I'm curious what else does Jimmy 1324 01:13:29.720 --> 01:13:30.800 James have on his mind? 1325 01:13:32.359 --> 01:13:34.600 I didn't need to disrupt the flow of the show. 1326 01:13:34.960 --> 01:13:36.800 Nah, we'll we'll get back to Jimmy and I'm sure 1327 01:13:36.840 --> 01:13:39.359 he'll give us another piece of his mind when he's ready. 1328 01:13:40.000 --> 01:13:41.680 But what's on your mind? How about that? 1329 01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:47.079 I just feel like the whole world's going to a crap, 1330 01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:51.800 and it's been for a long time. I don't know 1331 01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:53.720 what to make of Donald Trump. 1332 01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:55.640 I don't I don't think. 1333 01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:59.920 You guys, did you guys touch upon like the way 1334 01:14:00.079 --> 01:14:03.119 this stuff like with the ice and everything, like I'm 1335 01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:04.119 kind of late to the show. 1336 01:14:05.000 --> 01:14:07.760 Well, I definitely didn't talk about the ice stuff today. 1337 01:14:08.760 --> 01:14:10.880 I did mention at the very beginning of the show 1338 01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:13.920 the whole thing with you know, Katar building a base 1339 01:14:13.960 --> 01:14:17.199 in Idaho, which I find completely bizarre due to the 1340 01:14:17.279 --> 01:14:21.000 fact that Idaho is exactly the gravitational center of where 1341 01:14:21.039 --> 01:14:22.079 white supremacists go. 1342 01:14:22.279 --> 01:14:24.920 I know that factually, you. 1343 01:14:24.960 --> 01:14:26.399 Know, they go there to be left alone and be 1344 01:14:26.439 --> 01:14:28.760 in the wilderness, a lot of them and I've known 1345 01:14:28.840 --> 01:14:31.279 some of them personally who have gone there for that purpose. Right, 1346 01:14:33.119 --> 01:14:36.479 It's it's an interesting place to choose to put a 1347 01:14:36.600 --> 01:14:37.840 base for Katar. 1348 01:14:38.439 --> 01:14:38.600 You know. 1349 01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:42.600 And I know I'm gonna get yelled at in emails 1350 01:14:42.640 --> 01:14:45.319 about this, but here I go again. Does that have 1351 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:47.800 anything to do with the deal with Kushner and the 1352 01:14:47.880 --> 01:14:50.199 golf course? Does that have anything to do with the 1353 01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:52.600 gift of the airplane? Does it have any I mean, 1354 01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:55.079 come on, you know what I mean, nobody's gonna even 1355 01:14:55.119 --> 01:14:58.199 bother to ask these questions because we're too busy gasping 1356 01:14:58.279 --> 01:15:01.720 for air in a room where honestly, the politics are 1357 01:15:01.720 --> 01:15:04.039 sucking all the air out of it. So we're not 1358 01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:07.159 even gonna bother to investigate this stuff. And God help 1359 01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:09.039 us if we're going to leave it up to the 1360 01:15:09.239 --> 01:15:12.600 MSM and the corporate media, which is doing the spineless 1361 01:15:12.680 --> 01:15:17.039 job it normally does and circumbing. So there's that, and 1362 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:19.960 then there's alternative media that refuses to use any sort 1363 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:24.079 of cognitive skill similar to critical thought. So where are 1364 01:15:24.119 --> 01:15:26.439 we going to get with any of this nowhere? I 1365 01:15:26.520 --> 01:15:29.079 don't have the funds, neither do you, and we're just 1366 01:15:29.159 --> 01:15:31.279 gonna have to sit back and wait for the steamroll 1367 01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:34.880 to end. I mean, and if it ever does, that's 1368 01:15:34.920 --> 01:15:36.279 the way I see it, and that's the way I 1369 01:15:36.359 --> 01:15:39.359 see the rest of the world. So there's in a nutshell, 1370 01:15:39.439 --> 01:15:42.079 we could talk about the ice stuff and the videos 1371 01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:46.279 that are circulating online and not circulating online. The Charlie 1372 01:15:46.359 --> 01:15:50.279 Kirk conspiracies continue to pile up, and here we are 1373 01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:54.000 welcome to the crap zone. I mean, and I don't 1374 01:15:54.039 --> 01:15:58.800 mean my show. You know, this is where we're at, right, 1375 01:15:59.079 --> 01:16:03.640 I mean, did I miss something Chris, I mean helped 1376 01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:03.920 me out. 1377 01:16:05.920 --> 01:16:07.439 I don't think he missed anything. 1378 01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:12.800 No, I just I just when I look up news 1379 01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:17.960 these days, it's like it's bull crap stuff like you know, 1380 01:16:18.079 --> 01:16:22.079 superhero stuff. So I don't know, I feel like I'm 1381 01:16:22.159 --> 01:16:25.199 trying to like protect my own brain when it comes 1382 01:16:25.239 --> 01:16:30.159 to what's going on, because I can't process all this stuff. 1383 01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:33.600 Like I haven't even begun to go into Charlie Kirk, 1384 01:16:33.680 --> 01:16:35.560 and I don't think I ever will, to. 1385 01:16:35.600 --> 01:16:38.520 Be honest with you, I mean nothing against the man. 1386 01:16:39.159 --> 01:16:43.880 I just the conspiracy stuff is so overwhelming. 1387 01:16:43.319 --> 01:16:45.000 And toxic that. 1388 01:16:46.600 --> 01:16:49.199 I just want the fluff. I want the fluff. I 1389 01:16:49.279 --> 01:16:53.119 want just entertainment, you know what I think. 1390 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:55.359 Yeah, that's not a bad place, right. 1391 01:16:55.439 --> 01:16:57.560 I kind of missed the days when Anna Nicole Smith 1392 01:16:57.680 --> 01:16:59.920 was in the headlines, you know what I'm saying, Because 1393 01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:06.079 here we pro seriously because look, all right, I'm doing 1394 01:17:06.119 --> 01:17:08.760 a presentation at Lancer, right, and I talked about this 1395 01:17:08.880 --> 01:17:11.359 briefly during the show, and I'm mentioning it again. But 1396 01:17:11.680 --> 01:17:14.119 I plan to, you know, do my usual job of 1397 01:17:14.199 --> 01:17:16.600 making no friends, because I'm gonna tell a room full 1398 01:17:16.600 --> 01:17:18.479 of people that they have no idea what the mafia 1399 01:17:18.640 --> 01:17:20.159 is and they really should stop putting it on the 1400 01:17:20.199 --> 01:17:20.920 suspect list. 1401 01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:24.039 And That's what I'm gonna do with answer, right. 1402 01:17:24.640 --> 01:17:28.000 So in talking about that, I have this universal view 1403 01:17:28.079 --> 01:17:30.399 of things now where it's like, you know what, I'm 1404 01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:32.560 dealing with a bunch of people that have a mindset 1405 01:17:33.000 --> 01:17:36.680 that wants to blame Santa Claus for how Christmas is going. Okay, 1406 01:17:36.920 --> 01:17:39.439 because that's where we're at now, And I mean on 1407 01:17:39.520 --> 01:17:44.159 all sides. You know, Donald Trump, Look, Donald Trump doesn't 1408 01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:47.439 If you're a liberal and you're upset, Donald Trump doesn't 1409 01:17:47.479 --> 01:17:50.039 run your life. He runs certain aspects of your life, 1410 01:17:50.199 --> 01:17:53.119 but he doesn't run your life. So you're obsessing on 1411 01:17:53.239 --> 01:17:57.399 something that's not necessary. I turned on a YouTube video 1412 01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:59.640 just before airtime to give you an example of how 1413 01:17:59.680 --> 01:18:00.600 bad this is getting. 1414 01:18:01.159 --> 01:18:02.239 And they bring on a guy. 1415 01:18:02.319 --> 01:18:04.079 We have a guy who's an expert who's gonna come 1416 01:18:04.119 --> 01:18:05.920 out and tell us that we've been told nothing but 1417 01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:11.000 lies regarding the Charlie Kirk assassination. And within ten seconds, 1418 01:18:11.079 --> 01:18:13.840 this guy goes, well, you know that JFK thing. He 1419 01:18:14.000 --> 01:18:17.359 gives out four or five wrong facts about JFK before 1420 01:18:17.359 --> 01:18:19.199 he's gonna tell us he's an expert on something. 1421 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:19.720 That just happened. 1422 01:18:20.600 --> 01:18:23.680 And I just commented in the YouTube you know comment section, 1423 01:18:23.840 --> 01:18:26.520 like dude, really, you guys are doing this? Do you 1424 01:18:26.640 --> 01:18:28.600 understand that I'm going to tell you the facts he's 1425 01:18:28.600 --> 01:18:31.000 got wrong in the first ten seconds when he spoke, 1426 01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:33.319 and I listed him and went away. 1427 01:18:33.399 --> 01:18:34.760 And that's all I can do anymore. 1428 01:18:35.399 --> 01:18:37.840 You know, the guy says that only one silent film 1429 01:18:37.960 --> 01:18:43.840 captured the assassination. No wrong, just factually inaccurate. And they 1430 01:18:43.880 --> 01:18:46.199 can't get the facts straight. And then they're going to 1431 01:18:46.239 --> 01:18:49.720 tell you about their expertise and the alternative to the narrative. 1432 01:18:50.279 --> 01:18:51.359 So if you can't get the. 1433 01:18:51.399 --> 01:18:54.520 Initial narrative straight, you can't know the body of evidence 1434 01:18:54.520 --> 01:18:57.479 straight on a sixty year old crime. I've got little 1435 01:18:57.560 --> 01:19:00.760 faith in a sixty day old crime you might know about. 1436 01:19:00.800 --> 01:19:02.880 And I threw that number there just for his sake 1437 01:19:02.960 --> 01:19:06.640 of continuity. But the point is, yeah, I'm not listening 1438 01:19:06.680 --> 01:19:08.720 to you about Charlie Kirk. You can't even get your 1439 01:19:08.800 --> 01:19:12.119 JFK fax right that you want a site, so you're done. 1440 01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:15.640 I can't listen to these people anymore, not even for 1441 01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:16.960 a short clip. 1442 01:19:17.319 --> 01:19:20.560 I'm done. And you know, what are you gonna do? 1443 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:22.720 The corporate alternative? Good luck? 1444 01:19:24.319 --> 01:19:27.840 I just I don't feel good about the information and 1445 01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.079 the people that you know are out there allegedly in 1446 01:19:30.159 --> 01:19:34.119 the business of informing you whether it's again alternative. 1447 01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:36.039 Oh, I'm part of the rebel media. 1448 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:42.119 I'm part of the Lex Jones network, or yeah, doesn't matter, idiots, 1449 01:19:42.159 --> 01:19:45.239 All Santa Claus is responsible for how your Christmas went. 1450 01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.399 Next, I can't do it no more. 1451 01:19:49.359 --> 01:19:52.399 I know that sounds crazy, but that's look I'm thinking. 1452 01:19:52.479 --> 01:19:57.680 I'm channeling part of what you're saying, you know, And anyway, 1453 01:19:58.039 --> 01:20:01.920 hang on, I loved Oh. I'm sorry you got cut there. 1454 01:20:02.000 --> 01:20:03.560 I didn't mean to cut you in mid sentence. I 1455 01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:05.319 was just putting you on hold because we got other 1456 01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:07.199 callers and I want to get back around to everybody. 1457 01:20:07.960 --> 01:20:10.399 So let me take the next one in order, and 1458 01:20:10.600 --> 01:20:12.760 Chris hang on, we'll bring you back. I think I 1459 01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:15.279 know who this is. You want to introduce yourself. 1460 01:20:17.880 --> 01:20:20.399 You can tell him who just entered the building for me? 1461 01:20:20.680 --> 01:20:20.880 Yeah? 1462 01:20:21.079 --> 01:20:23.119 Oh yeah, because it shook baby. What's up? 1463 01:20:25.840 --> 01:20:27.840 We stand one has entered the building. 1464 01:20:28.319 --> 01:20:33.199 Hey, yeah, I've been watching my game tonight, so I 1465 01:20:33.560 --> 01:20:36.079 took tonight off to watch his game. But I had 1466 01:20:36.159 --> 01:20:37.479 to pop in here at least. 1467 01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:37.680 For a bit. 1468 01:20:37.880 --> 01:20:40.039 And is uncle gonna be on later? 1469 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:41.039 Yes he is. 1470 01:20:41.239 --> 01:20:44.399 He will be on taking calls in his Yes, you know, 1471 01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:46.079 I tried to get him to talk about the Hulk 1472 01:20:46.079 --> 01:20:51.279 Hogan conspiracies a little bit recently, and he was a 1473 01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:54.880 little lost on it. But Uncle has decided he doesn't 1474 01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:58.159 think Hulk Hogan is dead. So I give you a 1475 01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.399 little little information there from last week's show in case 1476 01:21:01.439 --> 01:21:02.760 you want to talk to him about it. Why do 1477 01:21:02.800 --> 01:21:06.640 you think Hulk Coogan's still alive? Go ahead, because I 1478 01:21:06.880 --> 01:21:10.199 don't know. I don't know the answer to that question. Okay, 1479 01:21:10.239 --> 01:21:11.199 because I don't think he's long. 1480 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.239 He take his he baked his death like Elvis right. 1481 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:19.000 And Ozzie's still alive too. He just he was just 1482 01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:21.720 out on a sailboat and he sailed right off the 1483 01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:23.000 flatter Man. 1484 01:21:23.159 --> 01:21:24.920 I really wish who knows where he's at now? 1485 01:21:25.039 --> 01:21:27.000 I really wish Ozzie was still around a little bit. 1486 01:21:27.079 --> 01:21:27.239 You know. 1487 01:21:28.560 --> 01:21:31.039 Well, I love I loved Ozzy, but I just I 1488 01:21:31.199 --> 01:21:31.960 just watched the guy. 1489 01:21:32.119 --> 01:21:34.159 I mean, he made it pretty far. What was he 1490 01:21:34.239 --> 01:21:34.840 seventy one? 1491 01:21:35.119 --> 01:21:37.680 Yeah? Did you see that Paramount? Did you see the 1492 01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:41.560 recent paramount documentary on Ozzie? And they just put it 1493 01:21:41.600 --> 01:21:46.279 out of Okay, they got one on. 1494 01:21:46.560 --> 01:21:49.720 I could I was gonna watch on. I think it 1495 01:21:49.840 --> 01:21:51.680 was on it like A and E or something like 1496 01:21:51.760 --> 01:21:55.000 when you get on Spectrum, Like, I forget what it's 1497 01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:56.760 called on demand, but I haven't. 1498 01:21:56.760 --> 01:21:57.600 I haven't watched it yet. 1499 01:21:57.600 --> 01:22:01.119 They got one for Hulk Cogan. You know, I'm just like, 1500 01:22:01.600 --> 01:22:02.960 let them, let them cool. 1501 01:22:03.119 --> 01:22:04.760 Before I started watching this stuff. 1502 01:22:05.039 --> 01:22:08.279 Well you know, they just I don't. You know, it's sad, 1503 01:22:08.439 --> 01:22:09.840 but it's life. 1504 01:22:10.199 --> 01:22:13.800 Well I know, but see this, this Paramount thing was 1505 01:22:13.960 --> 01:22:18.239 actually something as he wanted recorded, and he wanted he 1506 01:22:18.920 --> 01:22:21.600 had the foresight to record like the last couple of 1507 01:22:21.720 --> 01:22:24.920 years of his life all together leading up to that 1508 01:22:25.039 --> 01:22:27.079 final show that he died a couple of days after, 1509 01:22:27.239 --> 01:22:31.479 you know, and it's kind of a heartbreaking thing. But 1510 01:22:31.520 --> 01:22:33.239 at the same time, he wanted to show people what 1511 01:22:33.399 --> 01:22:36.439 was really going on, and so you know, I'm with 1512 01:22:36.640 --> 01:22:38.760 the spirit of that. That's not somebody just trying to 1513 01:22:38.800 --> 01:22:39.359 be a vulture. 1514 01:22:39.439 --> 01:22:40.680 That was what he wanted. 1515 01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.119 So you know what I mean, I'm cool with it, 1516 01:22:44.800 --> 01:22:47.600 but it was it was heartbreaking to watch man. You know, 1517 01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:50.159 the guy had broken his neck and he had gone 1518 01:22:50.159 --> 01:22:53.520 through surgeries and the family's upset with the doctors and 1519 01:22:53.680 --> 01:22:57.239 everything else, and they did screw him up. But then again, 1520 01:22:57.399 --> 01:22:59.960 you know, is a guy with Parkinson's and everything else. 1521 01:23:00.159 --> 01:23:02.479 I mean, he wasn't going to be that much longer 1522 01:23:02.520 --> 01:23:03.600 for this world anyhow. 1523 01:23:04.960 --> 01:23:08.000 But yeah, I mean again, he did pretty long for 1524 01:23:08.600 --> 01:23:12.119 being Ozzie. Right, the world wonders we'll spend can't go 1525 01:23:12.279 --> 01:23:16.479 that long, I hope, so, but yeah, he party hard 1526 01:23:16.560 --> 01:23:18.840 your younger years and then you know it catches up. 1527 01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:20.800 With us, all of us, right, I know, I want. 1528 01:23:20.640 --> 01:23:21.520 To tell you why I'm here. 1529 01:23:21.720 --> 01:23:23.199 I know I'm not going to lost that long. 1530 01:23:23.279 --> 01:23:25.119 One last thing on this catch is real fast, and 1531 01:23:25.159 --> 01:23:28.039 then tell us because you know what I watched, Well, 1532 01:23:28.119 --> 01:23:31.439 he was for months working with a physical trainer just 1533 01:23:31.560 --> 01:23:33.520 to get himself together to be able to do that 1534 01:23:33.640 --> 01:23:37.439 final show. And he was literally working for months trying 1535 01:23:37.479 --> 01:23:39.119 to make it so he could stand up during it, 1536 01:23:39.359 --> 01:23:40.880 and in the end he ended up sitting in a 1537 01:23:40.960 --> 01:23:44.920 throne during the whole show. But it was it was 1538 01:23:45.039 --> 01:23:47.079 kind of an amazing journey to watch him really work 1539 01:23:47.159 --> 01:23:50.479 at it to make a final farewell to his fans 1540 01:23:50.800 --> 01:23:54.319 is really what it was about. And so I don't know, man, 1541 01:23:54.479 --> 01:23:56.720 you know that given he also made over one hundred 1542 01:23:56.760 --> 01:24:00.279 million dollars with that show, and every penny of it 1543 01:24:00.399 --> 01:24:01.279 nobody got paid. 1544 01:24:01.479 --> 01:24:02.840 It all went to charities. 1545 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:07.359 So you know what I mean that this gives you 1546 01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:09.840 an idea, you know, all the prince of darkness blah, 1547 01:24:10.319 --> 01:24:12.239 and at one time in our lifespan he was like 1548 01:24:12.359 --> 01:24:13.479 literally like the devil on. 1549 01:24:13.560 --> 01:24:16.319 Earth to people. But that wasn't new John. 1550 01:24:16.800 --> 01:24:17.359 I remember that. 1551 01:24:17.560 --> 01:24:21.359 Yeah, that wasn't who John Osborne was. So it's good. 1552 01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:24.079 I think if people see this new thing anyway, you 1553 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:25.920 had a reason why you're on. Go ahead, take me. 1554 01:24:27.239 --> 01:24:28.439 Yeah, you're you're real quick. 1555 01:24:28.439 --> 01:24:30.640 You're close to my age, couple of year or two whatever. 1556 01:24:30.680 --> 01:24:30.920 It is. 1557 01:24:31.479 --> 01:24:32.840 Just imagine thinking it back when you. 1558 01:24:32.880 --> 01:24:36.159 Were like eleven, twelve, thirteen and listen to Iron Man 1559 01:24:36.239 --> 01:24:40.039 and just been like, I assume you did like me 1560 01:24:40.199 --> 01:24:44.239 listening to iron Man and just damn damn. How cool 1561 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:46.760 was that as a kid growing up to now I'm 1562 01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:52.159 fifty five, you know, so just some of the greatest music. 1563 01:24:53.560 --> 01:24:54.359 We thank him for it. 1564 01:24:54.640 --> 01:24:57.520 When I was five, When I was five, Kent when 1565 01:24:57.520 --> 01:24:59.840 I was five years old, I shoved an eight track 1566 01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:03.680 new a machine and that song ended. 1567 01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:06.000 Up some song faded out. I don't remember that song, 1568 01:25:06.520 --> 01:25:07.439 but I remember them. 1569 01:25:09.720 --> 01:25:14.800 And then Irony coming on when I was five, right, 1570 01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:17.520 and that to me was the first time I was 1571 01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:20.399 moved by a piece of music where I felt empowered 1572 01:25:20.640 --> 01:25:24.319 at the age of five, and yeah, oh. 1573 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:24.920 I love it. 1574 01:25:25.039 --> 01:25:27.920 Then the Road Warriors used it in the early eighties, 1575 01:25:28.000 --> 01:25:30.319 you know when after they started playing music, that's when 1576 01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:33.640 the Freebird started with Freebird, and the Road Warriors jumped 1577 01:25:33.680 --> 01:25:35.520 on that and they come to the ring with that song. 1578 01:25:35.560 --> 01:25:38.840 I mean, just a kick ass song all around, no doubt. 1579 01:25:40.760 --> 01:25:43.520 Yeah, but yeah, I'm here. 1580 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:47.720 Because I decided this is an elimination game here between 1581 01:25:47.760 --> 01:25:51.640 my Seattle Mariners and the Detroit Tigers. Okay, in game 1582 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:57.079 five in Seattle. Seattle hasn't won a playoff game since 1583 01:25:57.239 --> 01:25:59.800 in twenty four years, almost a quarter century. I was 1584 01:25:59.800 --> 01:26:01.680 a young man of thirty one, and I remember it 1585 01:26:01.800 --> 01:26:05.239 like yesterday. I'm fifty five now, so that's how long 1586 01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:07.079 this draft has been. And I was like, yeah, I 1587 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:09.359 can watch it at wor tonight. Now I'm gonna take 1588 01:26:09.399 --> 01:26:11.880 it off, drink beer, winter lose, and I'll try to 1589 01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:14.159 pop in the Aceli effect and get on Uncle later 1590 01:26:14.239 --> 01:26:17.600 after the game. So that's kind of where I'm at. 1591 01:26:17.680 --> 01:26:20.039 But yeah, it's been a long time coming, and we're 1592 01:26:20.159 --> 01:26:22.680 up one nothing right now. It's been a battle of pitching, 1593 01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:27.000 this defense, defense pitching, just not a whole lot of 1594 01:26:27.039 --> 01:26:31.840 actioning hitting. So it's kind of what you guys would 1595 01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:34.760 call a boring game, but it's a nail bier when 1596 01:26:34.800 --> 01:26:37.079 you're into it like me, you know, and we're up 1597 01:26:37.119 --> 01:26:38.880 one nothing, but that could disappear quick. 1598 01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:42.640 Yeah, you know. So there is a guy I know later, 1599 01:26:43.319 --> 01:26:46.319 there's a guy with the bullpens. There's a guy I 1600 01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:47.680 know from high school right now. 1601 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:51.600 He's been homeless for like ten years, and what he 1602 01:26:51.760 --> 01:26:54.960 does for work is he goes and he works concessions 1603 01:26:55.199 --> 01:26:58.600 over there at the stadium in Seattle. 1604 01:26:58.720 --> 01:27:00.640 Okay, are they in tonight? 1605 01:27:02.800 --> 01:27:03.000 Yep? 1606 01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:03.920 Okay. 1607 01:27:04.680 --> 01:27:08.000 My friend Bill is probably out there homeless guys selling beer, 1608 01:27:08.760 --> 01:27:13.880 okay right now. And I hope that that he's enjoying it, 1609 01:27:13.960 --> 01:27:16.720 because he like ended up being a Mariners fan. He 1610 01:27:16.880 --> 01:27:20.159 was a Mets fan when he lived in Jersey. But 1611 01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:23.000 I hope he's enjoying it, and I hope everybody enjoys it. Man, 1612 01:27:23.079 --> 01:27:24.119 Baseball is a cool game. 1613 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:26.800 I still like it. And I know Uncle will want 1614 01:27:26.840 --> 01:27:27.520 to talk about. 1615 01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:29.239 Well, I mean, you got to figure about the hype 1616 01:27:29.520 --> 01:27:31.760 there in Seattle. You know, the drought we've been on. 1617 01:27:32.880 --> 01:27:33.039 You know. 1618 01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:36.000 Ichi Row was the first year, the last time we 1619 01:27:36.159 --> 01:27:36.680 won like that. 1620 01:27:36.880 --> 01:27:37.920 You remember Ichi Row? 1621 01:27:38.119 --> 01:27:40.319 Yeah, so Zuki Ichi Row. 1622 01:27:40.760 --> 01:27:44.199 You know Echirosazuki excuse me, yeah, he you know, he 1623 01:27:44.319 --> 01:27:45.159 replaced a rod. 1624 01:27:45.239 --> 01:27:47.840 We lost a rod to the to the to the Yankees, right, 1625 01:27:48.520 --> 01:27:49.760 and so yeah. 1626 01:27:49.640 --> 01:27:53.960 That was you know, two thousand and one. That was 1627 01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.239 the year nine to eleven, you know, And that's how 1628 01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:57.880 long it's been. 1629 01:27:58.079 --> 01:27:58.600 Just put that in. 1630 01:27:59.000 --> 01:28:01.319 And by the way, I go on another twenty four 1631 01:28:01.439 --> 01:28:05.000 year drought, I doubt I'll be around to see, you know, 1632 01:28:05.079 --> 01:28:07.920 to see the playoff game like tonight, because I'll be 1633 01:28:08.000 --> 01:28:09.039 almost eighty years old. 1634 01:28:09.079 --> 01:28:09.199 Now. 1635 01:28:09.359 --> 01:28:12.079 Look, if Odgy can make to whatever, maybe Spent can't 1636 01:28:12.079 --> 01:28:13.920 can make it it to eighty. But I don't want 1637 01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:14.720 to take chances. 1638 01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:15.920 So I took the night off. 1639 01:28:16.079 --> 01:28:18.600 I'm gonna enjoy myself one way or the other. And 1640 01:28:19.000 --> 01:28:20.680 you know, and I wanted to pop in and say, 1641 01:28:20.760 --> 01:28:23.720 I say hey to everybody. We're in the middle of 1642 01:28:23.840 --> 01:28:27.479 the fifth ending or maybe going into the six. Now 1643 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:30.680 it's a one nothing game, so yeah, this is like 1644 01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:36.279 winner moves on to take on the Toronto Blue Jays. 1645 01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:40.720 There you go, and uh yeah, yeah, well I hope 1646 01:28:40.800 --> 01:28:41.239 I listen. 1647 01:28:41.319 --> 01:28:43.079 I hope it turns out the way you wanted to. 1648 01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:46.720 I really do, because look, I would love to see 1649 01:28:46.800 --> 01:28:50.239 one more Mets World Series championship before I die, But 1650 01:28:50.439 --> 01:28:53.399 I doubt they're going to do it, so because why 1651 01:28:53.640 --> 01:28:57.720 they're the Mets. Uh, it just is anyway, you know, 1652 01:28:58.319 --> 01:28:59.720 like the Mariner's got a better change. 1653 01:28:59.720 --> 01:29:01.640 Actually thought they were going to make the playoffs, but 1654 01:29:01.760 --> 01:29:04.520 they did, and Cincinnati got in. 1655 01:29:04.880 --> 01:29:07.720 Yeah, right like the last day, like you know, yeah, 1656 01:29:07.920 --> 01:29:09.479 but I knew they believe they had it. 1657 01:29:09.600 --> 01:29:12.439 They had like three days till the season, you know, 1658 01:29:12.479 --> 01:29:14.359 when they ended they had it. They're right there in 1659 01:29:14.399 --> 01:29:17.720 the final wild card spot. And then they dropped the game. 1660 01:29:17.800 --> 01:29:21.039 And then Cincinnati won their game and schnuck in and 1661 01:29:21.119 --> 01:29:23.079 I think they had a tie breaker or something took it. 1662 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:25.119 I mean I didn't know about it until the game 1663 01:29:25.199 --> 01:29:27.479 was already being play Yeah, I thought the Mets were 1664 01:29:27.479 --> 01:29:28.000 going to be there. 1665 01:29:28.159 --> 01:29:31.520 It's a it's a beautiful thing. Look, I love what family. Guy, 1666 01:29:31.600 --> 01:29:33.119 did you know this is? 1667 01:29:33.319 --> 01:29:35.760 This is worse than being a Mets fan. And then 1668 01:29:35.800 --> 01:29:38.399 they go to a shot in the stadium and Stewie's 1669 01:29:38.439 --> 01:29:40.640 wearing a Mets hat and they go Hey, look, we 1670 01:29:40.760 --> 01:29:43.119 got an exciting season ahead of us. Here's the first 1671 01:29:43.159 --> 01:29:45.439 pitch and it's all over and we're not going to 1672 01:29:45.479 --> 01:29:46.119 the postseason. 1673 01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:49.720 That's the way it is with the Mets. It's like 1674 01:29:49.920 --> 01:29:52.760 whenever you think they got it, they don't. It's just 1675 01:29:52.880 --> 01:29:53.319 what they do. 1676 01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:55.760 Have they have they been to the World Series? 1677 01:29:56.439 --> 01:29:56.560 Uh? 1678 01:29:56.800 --> 01:30:00.520 Yeah, they've been three well four times, five times, excuse me, 1679 01:30:01.039 --> 01:30:04.960 but they've only won one twice twice sixty eight. 1680 01:30:05.439 --> 01:30:08.720 So it's nice to say the maritor is the only 1681 01:30:08.760 --> 01:30:10.960 team that haven't been to the World Series. We haven't 1682 01:30:10.960 --> 01:30:14.279 been to the playoffs and what almost a quarter century. Wow, 1683 01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:18.640 So you can understand, you know, the yeah, I'm excited. 1684 01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:20.600 You think back when I was thirty one, you know, 1685 01:30:20.760 --> 01:30:24.720 so yeah that that forced me to take a night 1686 01:30:24.800 --> 01:30:28.039 off to just you know, I could be sitting work, 1687 01:30:28.560 --> 01:30:31.960 dealing with stuff, watching the game and not enjoying it. 1688 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:35.239 But instead I've been joining the game. I got to 1689 01:30:35.399 --> 01:30:37.920 you know, I'm calling in saying hey, I'll be around. 1690 01:30:38.039 --> 01:30:40.119 I took off the night, but you know, I'm just 1691 01:30:40.239 --> 01:30:43.119 hoping for a win here in the next couple the 1692 01:30:43.199 --> 01:30:45.239 next hour, I can be saying, yeah, we're moving on 1693 01:30:45.399 --> 01:30:48.800 plaint Toronto That's what I'm hoping to say in the 1694 01:30:48.880 --> 01:30:52.039 next hour or hour and a half whatever, that next 1695 01:30:52.119 --> 01:30:54.800 hour next Yeah, we're just starting the fifth ending. 1696 01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:57.119 Well, look, you'll be able to recap it with uncle, 1697 01:30:57.359 --> 01:31:00.319 you know, starting in the what the eleven o'clock hour 1698 01:31:00.439 --> 01:31:04.199 here Eastern. So do that, man, and enjoy that game, 1699 01:31:04.319 --> 01:31:06.960 because I wish I was sitting and watching a game 1700 01:31:07.039 --> 01:31:08.319 I was interested in this year. 1701 01:31:09.359 --> 01:31:13.239 That would be great. I'm not even into very. 1702 01:31:13.159 --> 01:31:15.680 Many sports, but I will watch some boxing, I will 1703 01:31:15.760 --> 01:31:16.680 watch some baseball. 1704 01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:18.680 I enjoy baseball, always have. 1705 01:31:19.359 --> 01:31:21.680 But like I say, make sure you touch basebok uncle 1706 01:31:21.680 --> 01:31:23.439 about it because I'm sure he'll want to talk about 1707 01:31:23.479 --> 01:31:26.319 it tonight. And God help us if you want to 1708 01:31:26.319 --> 01:31:28.199 find out why he thinks Hulk Hogan is still live, 1709 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:32.319 please do Meanwhile, we got another caller, b Pete, so 1710 01:31:32.399 --> 01:31:34.239 I'm going to him because he's been waiting a minute. 1711 01:31:34.880 --> 01:31:36.199 And how you doing, man? 1712 01:31:38.199 --> 01:31:38.960 I'm doing fine. 1713 01:31:39.000 --> 01:31:40.640 More importantly, how's everybody else doing? 1714 01:31:41.119 --> 01:31:41.319 Ah? 1715 01:31:41.560 --> 01:31:45.359 You know, look, it's a how is everybody doing? How 1716 01:31:45.359 --> 01:31:47.319 about that? Danny comes? 1717 01:31:47.439 --> 01:31:47.600 Man? 1718 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:48.479 Oh? 1719 01:31:48.720 --> 01:31:53.520 God, you know, I don't know. I don't know anybody 1720 01:31:53.560 --> 01:31:56.560 who's like happy, you know what I mean about things? 1721 01:31:56.680 --> 01:31:56.800 Right? 1722 01:31:56.880 --> 01:32:02.720 Now in general, right, maybe it's just me. Maybe I 1723 01:32:02.760 --> 01:32:03.960 attract unhappy people. 1724 01:32:04.000 --> 01:32:06.760 I don't know. You know what's on your mind though, 1725 01:32:07.000 --> 01:32:07.840 that's what's important. 1726 01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:09.840 Well, I got, I got, I got a lot of 1727 01:32:09.920 --> 01:32:12.800 things on my mind. First of all, I want to 1728 01:32:12.920 --> 01:32:17.239 kind of it would be connected with JFK and a 1729 01:32:17.279 --> 01:32:21.119 little bit of California politics. And I've been touching a 1730 01:32:21.159 --> 01:32:25.560 lot of your casts and they're running California politics commercials 1731 01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:29.680 because we got a special election. But something came up 1732 01:32:29.800 --> 01:32:32.479 with you and Larry handcuffed. You talked about William K. 1733 01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:38.319 Harvey and getting this like documentation with the f FA. 1734 01:32:39.960 --> 01:32:43.199 I'm curious about that because I can remember being a 1735 01:32:43.319 --> 01:32:47.399 kid in the seventies and people going at the airport 1736 01:32:47.439 --> 01:32:50.359 because we flew a lot going up the ticket counter 1737 01:32:50.520 --> 01:32:53.880 and kay in cash and there was never any IDs 1738 01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:54.319 and it. 1739 01:32:54.399 --> 01:32:58.840 Was just a different world. So it's kind of a 1740 01:32:59.039 --> 01:32:59.680 it was kind of a. 1741 01:33:01.720 --> 01:33:02.560 I don't know what to think of. 1742 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.079 It just seems kind of strange. Nineteen sixty three, Why 1743 01:33:05.119 --> 01:33:10.479 would you Why would you need that that cover when 1744 01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:13.039 you can just stay cash and nobody would ask you 1745 01:33:13.359 --> 01:33:16.439 who you are or what I mean. I'm just I'm 1746 01:33:16.760 --> 01:33:19.039 kind of like puzzled if that makes. 1747 01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:22.359 Sense, Well, a couple of things. Utilizing cash in general 1748 01:33:22.560 --> 01:33:28.760 can become traceable depending right number one, number two, Why 1749 01:33:28.880 --> 01:33:32.239 bother with that? If you don't need cash and you're 1750 01:33:32.279 --> 01:33:34.279 not registered on that flight, you're not even on the 1751 01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:37.880 manifest if you deadheaded, right, if you do it a 1752 01:33:37.960 --> 01:33:40.359 certain way, and pilots did that. That's why I talked 1753 01:33:40.359 --> 01:33:43.640 about that during that show. When you deadhead on a flight, 1754 01:33:44.119 --> 01:33:48.039 you're not on the manifest. Okay, So there's no record 1755 01:33:48.079 --> 01:33:50.600 at all. You buy a ticket, they still want a name, 1756 01:33:50.760 --> 01:33:53.920 they want something somebody was there. But you can be 1757 01:33:54.119 --> 01:33:57.119 a ghost on a flight if you're an FAA guy, 1758 01:33:57.359 --> 01:34:00.720 if you're a pilot. Some people told me that if 1759 01:34:00.720 --> 01:34:03.760 you were a priest, there was kind of an understanding 1760 01:34:03.840 --> 01:34:06.399 at a certain point in our recent history where you 1761 01:34:06.479 --> 01:34:10.439 could go on to a flight, no record, nothing, okay, 1762 01:34:10.880 --> 01:34:13.520 so you know, and that's the thing about it. Now, 1763 01:34:13.600 --> 01:34:17.319 what's weird here is that, like Larry said, we don't 1764 01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:19.720 know the full range of why in the world that 1765 01:34:19.720 --> 01:34:23.439 would be done. And Luna has the right to ask 1766 01:34:23.640 --> 01:34:26.479 what the hell is this all about regarding this documentation, 1767 01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:30.479 like why would a CIA guy in Rome need FAA 1768 01:34:30.640 --> 01:34:36.159 credentials for America. You know, seems odd, doesn't it, you know, 1769 01:34:36.680 --> 01:34:39.520 And like I posited in that interview, I said, look, 1770 01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:41.560 you know, here's another thing, and I know it's way 1771 01:34:41.600 --> 01:34:45.319 outside of the realm, and it's speculation, but let's just 1772 01:34:45.399 --> 01:34:48.319 say he needed to go and interact with Italian officials 1773 01:34:48.840 --> 01:34:51.600 at an airport and it was useful for him to 1774 01:34:51.680 --> 01:34:56.960 have that FAA credential. And Larry's counter to that obviously was, look, 1775 01:34:57.359 --> 01:35:00.640 but he's doing it in his own name, even which 1776 01:35:00.760 --> 01:35:03.880 is also strange, because why not just give him a 1777 01:35:03.920 --> 01:35:06.279 fictitious FAA guy and then that way he's you know, 1778 01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:10.960 Russ Stevenson, you know FAA guy, and he doesn't even 1779 01:35:11.039 --> 01:35:16.399 have to be remotely connected to the CIA, the diplomatic cover, 1780 01:35:16.760 --> 01:35:20.159 none of that. He's a completely different guy if you 1781 01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:23.720 give him a different name. So this is a strange circumstance. 1782 01:35:23.840 --> 01:35:26.439 There must be a purpose for this, because you know, 1783 01:35:26.520 --> 01:35:29.039 you don't just draw up IDs for no reason usually 1784 01:35:29.760 --> 01:35:32.720 unless there is a backup plan or a plan connected 1785 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:36.600 to them, you would think. But then again, you know what, 1786 01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:40.520 I'm not a spook, so I don't know, and neither 1787 01:35:40.600 --> 01:35:42.680 do any of us really know what the full range 1788 01:35:42.760 --> 01:35:44.880 of what that would be useful for. But it's a 1789 01:35:45.079 --> 01:35:48.960 relevant question and interesting, especially given who we're talking about. 1790 01:35:51.000 --> 01:35:53.600 So you know, So that's why I explored that with Larry, 1791 01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:55.680 and and that's where he wanted to go with it. 1792 01:35:56.840 --> 01:35:58.159 And I do think it's of interest. 1793 01:35:59.079 --> 01:36:01.520 You know, some people think it's a more mundane who cares, 1794 01:36:01.640 --> 01:36:05.840 you know, but there's never no reason for stuff like this, 1795 01:36:06.199 --> 01:36:09.239 you know. I'm just saying there's always something to run it. 1796 01:36:10.079 --> 01:36:11.960 So who knows what we might learn? 1797 01:36:12.079 --> 01:36:14.520 I don't know anyway, That's that's where I came down 1798 01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:17.279 on it. You know, you judge for yourself, and obviously 1799 01:36:17.359 --> 01:36:21.479 you got to hear from Larry, who's a more sober commentator. 1800 01:36:20.960 --> 01:36:21.880 About this than I am. 1801 01:36:22.560 --> 01:36:25.359 But but still, I mean, I've got ideas, but I 1802 01:36:25.399 --> 01:36:27.960 would never speak about him because, you know, unless I've 1803 01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:29.640 got something solid to present to you, I'm not going 1804 01:36:29.680 --> 01:36:32.239 to tell you it's information. I'll speculate with you all 1805 01:36:32.359 --> 01:36:35.319 day long, but I'm careful about what I say is 1806 01:36:35.399 --> 01:36:36.399 information and what is not. 1807 01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:39.800 You know what I mean, I get it. 1808 01:36:40.079 --> 01:36:41.720 Yeah, So there you go. 1809 01:36:42.359 --> 01:36:45.800 But California politics. I'm surprised you bring this up because 1810 01:36:45.880 --> 01:36:50.239 you know your boy Gavin Newsom out there. I don't 1811 01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:52.399 know what to make of him now, you know, honestly, 1812 01:36:52.880 --> 01:36:54.680 it's getting a little strange. 1813 01:36:55.840 --> 01:36:57.920 I lately. 1814 01:36:58.279 --> 01:37:01.159 Yeah, I know what his opposition makes of them, but 1815 01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:03.319 that's the same thing they were making up two years ago, 1816 01:37:03.439 --> 01:37:03.960 so whatever. 1817 01:37:04.199 --> 01:37:08.239 But his behavior patterns are changing. So I don't know 1818 01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:12.239 what that means. Yeah, anyway, well he's running for president. 1819 01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:15.640 But you know, they and you know, it's just you know, 1820 01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:17.199 what's happening is. 1821 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:18.359 You're getting these commercials. 1822 01:37:18.399 --> 01:37:18.680 We get this. 1823 01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:24.119 We've had here in the state of California, we've had 1824 01:37:24.239 --> 01:37:27.720 kind of a nonpartisan trying to make the elections you 1825 01:37:27.800 --> 01:37:32.079 know fair, you know, for representations. It's a predominantly Democratic state, 1826 01:37:32.159 --> 01:37:34.520 but there's it's a big state, and there's a lot 1827 01:37:34.600 --> 01:37:37.319 of Conservatives and there's a lot of Republicans and they 1828 01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:40.640 need a voice too, right, So they've tried to get 1829 01:37:40.680 --> 01:37:44.039 a put together nonpartisan commission to kind of draw up 1830 01:37:44.079 --> 01:37:46.319 the redistrict. Not like some of these states, once they 1831 01:37:46.439 --> 01:37:49.279 kind of get powered, it's powered rad wals as we 1832 01:37:49.439 --> 01:37:52.359 damn well please, or as much as they can, especially 1833 01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:55.680 after they kind of got it. Certain portions of the 1834 01:37:55.760 --> 01:38:01.359 civil rights at about twelve thirteen years ago, they brought 1835 01:38:01.439 --> 01:38:05.560 up a proposition because of the the mid terms are 1836 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:07.920 coming up, and I mean the Poland doesn't look good 1837 01:38:08.000 --> 01:38:11.279 for Trump and the Republicans, so they're already you know, 1838 01:38:11.439 --> 01:38:14.479 he's on the phone. You know, hey, wait, can you 1839 01:38:14.600 --> 01:38:18.039 do So they're doing redistricting in the states, So they're 1840 01:38:18.119 --> 01:38:20.680 putting it it will be a proposition spot to the 1841 01:38:21.800 --> 01:38:27.600 voters whether we're going to do a temporarily redistricting the counter. Now, 1842 01:38:28.720 --> 01:38:31.279 we should all be virtuous and kind of play by 1843 01:38:31.319 --> 01:38:33.439 the same rules. But when you kind of play nice 1844 01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:36.720 and purchase, somebody's going to snack you with the power grab. 1845 01:38:37.199 --> 01:38:39.920 Otherwise I wouldn't be in favor of this change. But 1846 01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:43.439 it's it's definitely a temporarily. I've read that, I've read 1847 01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:47.079 the ballot, but the so that that's the one and 1848 01:38:47.199 --> 01:38:50.000 what I find interesting and it's I'm kind of seeing 1849 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:55.239 a mantra on conservatives because I don't really dial into 1850 01:38:55.279 --> 01:38:58.359 all their news and all their talking heads, but they're 1851 01:38:58.399 --> 01:39:01.199 all kind of repeating the same thing. But somehow us 1852 01:39:01.319 --> 01:39:04.279 on the left or liberals or moderates, we need to 1853 01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:09.239 become educated. I'm kind of going, Really, I find that 1854 01:39:09.359 --> 01:39:12.840 a odd question about education because we're kind of reading 1855 01:39:13.279 --> 01:39:16.159 two sides of the coin. But another thing that's popped 1856 01:39:16.239 --> 01:39:22.640 up is the governor's racer in California. A particular politician 1857 01:39:22.680 --> 01:39:26.079 who's leading in the polls is Katie Porter. She's doesn't 1858 01:39:26.119 --> 01:39:30.560 take any patent, she doesn't take any money from what 1859 01:39:30.800 --> 01:39:31.640 what you don't believe me? 1860 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:32.640 No, be. 1861 01:39:34.359 --> 01:39:37.239 What do I know? He's well, that's true, I get it. 1862 01:39:37.560 --> 01:39:39.399 It doesn't take it from you know, you know, the 1863 01:39:39.800 --> 01:39:44.800 the Israel lobby. She was heavily campaigned against by the 1864 01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.119 a lot of the crypto money, the same money that 1865 01:39:48.319 --> 01:39:50.600 kind of the same backers that kind of you know 1866 01:39:50.720 --> 01:39:54.119 got you know, Trump's bitcoin gowing. And they also knocked 1867 01:39:54.119 --> 01:39:56.279 out Shared Brown because they want to they want to 1868 01:39:56.359 --> 01:40:01.520 regulate some of this uh cryptocurrency. She's running for governor. 1869 01:40:01.920 --> 01:40:06.439 Policy wise, she's more to my liking than anybody running. 1870 01:40:09.000 --> 01:40:11.399 And here's the thing. She's got on tape and there's 1871 01:40:11.479 --> 01:40:15.800 definitely a smear, but she's also brought on herself. They 1872 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.279 got taped, you know, they're bringing out videos. She's been 1873 01:40:18.399 --> 01:40:21.000 really mean to her staffers, I mean, over the top, 1874 01:40:21.159 --> 01:40:24.560 I mean, and everybody's saying, what a bitch, Well. 1875 01:40:24.560 --> 01:40:26.159 Let me ask you something about Let me ask you 1876 01:40:26.239 --> 01:40:28.760 something about her, because you know, I brought up the 1877 01:40:28.840 --> 01:40:32.760 new Jersey gougnatorial race on my show right, which is 1878 01:40:32.840 --> 01:40:36.560 in a special time this year, and Mikey Cheryl. 1879 01:40:36.359 --> 01:40:39.279 Who has basically gotten docks by the end by Nara. 1880 01:40:39.640 --> 01:40:43.159 Okay, that's the way I see it, you know. And 1881 01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.520 it's weird to watch what's going on over in Jersey. 1882 01:40:46.680 --> 01:40:49.520 But you know, the corruption pendulum swings just like left 1883 01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:50.720 and right. It's a purple state. 1884 01:40:50.920 --> 01:40:51.439 It just is. 1885 01:40:53.279 --> 01:40:53.439 Right. 1886 01:40:53.920 --> 01:40:57.000 So it's so strange to watch that over there. Has 1887 01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:01.279 anybody pulled any crap like that in California? Has anybody 1888 01:41:01.319 --> 01:41:01.840 turned around? 1889 01:41:01.880 --> 01:41:01.920 No? 1890 01:41:03.399 --> 01:41:05.640 No, So no document dumps at Oops. 1891 01:41:05.680 --> 01:41:08.680 Accidentally we're going to show your home address, your parents' 1892 01:41:08.680 --> 01:41:12.199 home address, your solid security number, your bank accounts, Oops, 1893 01:41:12.840 --> 01:41:13.760 National Archives. 1894 01:41:14.119 --> 01:41:15.840 They didn't do that, oh to anybody over there. 1895 01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:20.520 I haven't. I don't remember that that going that far. 1896 01:41:20.680 --> 01:41:24.800 But it's definitely coordinated, and there's and and hey, she's 1897 01:41:24.840 --> 01:41:27.600 got some staffers that she doesn't get along with, and 1898 01:41:27.720 --> 01:41:30.760 she's brought it on herself. But here's the thing. I'm 1899 01:41:30.800 --> 01:41:33.279 almost willing to call her office and tell her how 1900 01:41:33.319 --> 01:41:35.399 to handle it. I mean, I don't want to run 1901 01:41:35.479 --> 01:41:37.479 for politics. But I can tell you she just needs 1902 01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:41.439 to call a conference apologize for being her snappers. And 1903 01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:44.960 all she has to do is say, yeah, I'm a bitch. 1904 01:41:45.520 --> 01:41:49.239 I can get things done, you know, and and and 1905 01:41:49.439 --> 01:41:52.159 and just lean into it and guess what, and just 1906 01:41:52.199 --> 01:41:55.720 get all the line. I put a poster, you know, 1907 01:41:56.039 --> 01:42:00.399 because her policies are better than you know. And these 1908 01:42:00.439 --> 01:42:03.680 are the conservatives they run there. It's generally the fringe. 1909 01:42:04.079 --> 01:42:06.000 It's not even like a modern. 1910 01:42:05.960 --> 01:42:07.199 Well, let me ask you a question. 1911 01:42:08.680 --> 01:42:10.720 Let me just ask you an objective because here's a 1912 01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:12.720 question I do not usually I ask questions. 1913 01:42:12.720 --> 01:42:14.840 I already know what the answer should be, but I 1914 01:42:14.920 --> 01:42:19.039 don't know this answer at all. Here's the thing. 1915 01:42:19.359 --> 01:42:24.000 Would liberals accept that, because you know what, they are 1916 01:42:24.119 --> 01:42:27.640 so quick with the circular firing squad? I know people 1917 01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:29.720 on the show disagree with me all the time about that. 1918 01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:32.439 But I got to tell you, no, I don't think 1919 01:42:32.479 --> 01:42:34.880 liberals would accept Look, I'm a bitch, I get things done. 1920 01:42:35.359 --> 01:42:36.880 I don't think they would take that. They'd be like, 1921 01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:41.760 how dare you insult women? And you know what is 1922 01:42:41.880 --> 01:42:42.600 the real solution? 1923 01:42:42.800 --> 01:42:45.840 That's always the pub Well, you know, I think we're 1924 01:42:46.039 --> 01:42:50.119 I would say, prior to the Trump era, I would 1925 01:42:50.119 --> 01:42:52.520 one hundred percent agree with you. That just would just 1926 01:42:52.640 --> 01:42:56.119 not bode well. But we're in a weird time election. 1927 01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:58.960 I mean, look at the stuff that I mean, I know, 1928 01:42:59.000 --> 01:43:01.159 I'm going to go on my dough my derangement center. 1929 01:43:01.800 --> 01:43:03.920 Look at the stuff he gets away that this would 1930 01:43:03.960 --> 01:43:06.760 have never happened whether you were a Republican or a Democrat, 1931 01:43:06.800 --> 01:43:07.640 and he gets away with it. 1932 01:43:07.840 --> 01:43:08.000 Yeah. 1933 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:10.159 No, I just think it's now the point you lean 1934 01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:10.640 into it. 1935 01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:14.720 Gavin Newsoen leaned into some of the parody into Trump, 1936 01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:18.079 even though I personally don't like it. I think it's 1937 01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:21.079 kind of childish. But guess what, he went up in 1938 01:43:21.119 --> 01:43:21.600 the polls. 1939 01:43:21.960 --> 01:43:23.399 So it may be, you know. 1940 01:43:23.880 --> 01:43:25.880 And that's why I asked it as an open question 1941 01:43:26.039 --> 01:43:29.199 because it may be the correct thing to do. I 1942 01:43:29.279 --> 01:43:31.840 don't know, because at this point, I mean, look what 1943 01:43:31.880 --> 01:43:36.279 happened to Ellen degenerous, right, miss a happy dancing around. Hey, 1944 01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:39.520 I'm a you know, I'm a liberal darling until we 1945 01:43:39.600 --> 01:43:41.439 find out that she was a nightmare to work for 1946 01:43:42.119 --> 01:43:44.000 and stuff. 1947 01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:46.079 In her career ended exactly. 1948 01:43:45.840 --> 01:43:46.000 You know. 1949 01:43:46.279 --> 01:43:49.319 So I'm just saying I'm not saying that Ellen degenerous 1950 01:43:49.399 --> 01:43:50.600 is equal to a politician. 1951 01:43:51.039 --> 01:43:53.760 I'm just saying that when it comes to public opinion. 1952 01:43:53.399 --> 01:43:59.159 Though, certain people swing in certain directions and some things 1953 01:43:59.199 --> 01:44:02.159 are acceptable. You know, Al Frankin has gotten rid of right, 1954 01:44:04.039 --> 01:44:06.439 but other guys can say all kinds of wild stuff 1955 01:44:06.560 --> 01:44:09.520 and nobody loses their job, you know what I mean. 1956 01:44:09.800 --> 01:44:13.520 It's definitely the left and the right do not function 1957 01:44:13.720 --> 01:44:17.000 the same way with their elimination. 1958 01:44:16.600 --> 01:44:20.600 System as far as deciding that somebody is no longer tenable. 1959 01:44:21.000 --> 01:44:22.840 Like the guy who was I don't know, the cross 1960 01:44:22.920 --> 01:44:26.279 gesterer that was like defrauding people and all that, George 1961 01:44:26.319 --> 01:44:27.119 whatever his name was. 1962 01:44:27.159 --> 01:44:28.600 They got rid of him on the Republicans. 1963 01:44:29.600 --> 01:44:32.800 Yeah, there you go that they eventually, I think they Yeah. 1964 01:44:32.960 --> 01:44:34.880 I was waiting for the Republicans to get rid of him. 1965 01:44:35.079 --> 01:44:35.720 Yeah they wait. 1966 01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:38.199 Look, they dragged their feet and defended him like they 1967 01:44:38.279 --> 01:44:41.199 do all the time, and then they cut him loose. 1968 01:44:42.079 --> 01:44:45.479 So you know, they have a different methodology for getting 1969 01:44:45.560 --> 01:44:52.479 rid of their let's call it negative negative assets und. 1970 01:44:54.119 --> 01:44:56.319 Perfect. Oh that's perfect me, pete. 1971 01:44:56.640 --> 01:44:58.680 They have a You gotta admit, there is a different 1972 01:44:59.000 --> 01:45:03.800 methodology to eliminating the undesirables, right, So I don't know 1973 01:45:03.840 --> 01:45:06.399 if that would work for Katie Porter. Let's go with 1974 01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:10.079 somebody who is in opposition to Katie Porter and ask 1975 01:45:10.199 --> 01:45:13.840 his opinion. Be Pete, because you were laughing at the 1976 01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:17.279 moment that Danny was saying anything positive about her. But 1977 01:45:17.399 --> 01:45:20.199 I mean, objectively, do you think she could survive? Go 1978 01:45:20.279 --> 01:45:22.600 and look, I'm a bitch, I get things done and 1979 01:45:22.920 --> 01:45:24.520 spin this back around to yes. 1980 01:45:24.600 --> 01:45:30.000 So what do you think among Demo Among Democrats in California, Yeah, 1981 01:45:30.079 --> 01:45:32.880 she'd get away with it. You think so, well, the 1982 01:45:32.960 --> 01:45:35.560 state is like yeah, the state is like sixty Look 1983 01:45:35.600 --> 01:45:39.880 at Karen Bass and the crap she has said over 1984 01:45:40.000 --> 01:45:41.720 all that. I mean, you know, she was a rabble 1985 01:45:41.800 --> 01:45:45.239 rouser from way back back in her college days. Okay, 1986 01:45:46.560 --> 01:45:49.439 and she gets elected. So you know, there's a lot 1987 01:45:49.520 --> 01:45:53.399 of politicians in California that have a history of radicalism 1988 01:45:53.520 --> 01:45:55.880 and everything else. And I think among the it's split 1989 01:45:55.920 --> 01:46:01.039 about sixty forty Democrat of voter wise California, and I think, yeah, 1990 01:46:01.119 --> 01:46:03.840 she can get away with the liberals. They put up 1991 01:46:03.880 --> 01:46:04.079 with it. 1992 01:46:04.960 --> 01:46:05.279 Okay. 1993 01:46:05.960 --> 01:46:08.239 Like I said, I asked that question not knowing what 1994 01:46:08.560 --> 01:46:11.239 my answer would be. Even you know, I'm literally asking 1995 01:46:11.319 --> 01:46:13.880 it to please inform me and both of you seem 1996 01:46:13.920 --> 01:46:14.760 to think it might work. 1997 01:46:16.279 --> 01:46:19.079 You know, I wouldn't think it would have worked like 1998 01:46:19.199 --> 01:46:21.920 twenty years ago, but right now, I mean, I'll give 1999 01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:22.640 you an example. 2000 01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:27.560 No pre nine eleven, yeah, Danny, Danny real quick, pre 2001 01:46:27.680 --> 01:46:30.159 nine eleven. No way, pre nine eleven, no. 2002 01:46:30.199 --> 01:46:33.039 Way pre nine pre pre nine eleven. 2003 01:46:33.239 --> 01:46:33.520 Okay. 2004 01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:37.159 Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governor of California and there was 2005 01:46:37.239 --> 01:46:41.560 a recall for Gray Davis. Now, Gray Davis, as far 2006 01:46:41.640 --> 01:46:44.920 as my politics go, I liked him as a candidate, 2007 01:46:45.039 --> 01:46:49.000 but he did disgust me because what the Democratic Party 2008 01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:51.840 did is they actually there was actually a guy named 2009 01:46:51.920 --> 01:46:54.760 Dan Riard and who was actually a pretty popular mayor 2010 01:46:54.840 --> 01:46:58.840 in la He was a Republican and he probably could 2011 01:46:58.920 --> 01:47:01.319 have won. I mean he actually La is a more 2012 01:47:01.640 --> 01:47:05.159 liberal city and he ran that city and he was likable. 2013 01:47:06.199 --> 01:47:09.640 The hard or core conservatives would call it more of 2014 01:47:09.720 --> 01:47:12.319 a rhino because you know, he that was the big tent. 2015 01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:15.319 But he was actually could get both sides to work. 2016 01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:18.920 He could actually function as a as you know, actually governed. 2017 01:47:19.479 --> 01:47:22.439 He had a possibility of probably beating Gray Davis, even 2018 01:47:22.479 --> 01:47:24.960 though I wasn't going to support him. But what Gray 2019 01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:26.920 Davis did is he got a lot of money to 2020 01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:32.680 to bat the radical so in the primaries that were 2021 01:47:32.800 --> 01:47:37.880 rat the easier competition to run against in the general election, 2022 01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:41.119 and it that fired on Gray Davis. So so I 2023 01:47:41.199 --> 01:47:44.479 mean California sometimes even liberals can give a little you know, 2024 01:47:44.680 --> 01:47:47.279 smell of fox. You know that's kind of a rat 2025 01:47:48.079 --> 01:47:50.079 did that? Did Gray Davison? For the recall? 2026 01:47:50.319 --> 01:47:53.279 Well, look fair enough, and Danny, we're running low on time. 2027 01:47:53.359 --> 01:47:55.479 I want to get everybody back on. There's still waiting, 2028 01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:57.960 and I'd like to give him all a chance to 2029 01:47:58.079 --> 01:48:00.199 kind of give a final word for the week. So 2030 01:48:00.560 --> 01:48:02.520 we'll just start with you since you're already on, and 2031 01:48:02.560 --> 01:48:05.079 then I'll go back around to Jimmy and then to 2032 01:48:05.119 --> 01:48:05.560 spend Ken. 2033 01:48:08.199 --> 01:48:12.840 Yeah, just everybody take care. I mean, I don't want 2034 01:48:12.840 --> 01:48:15.399 to be a downer, but this is the one your anniversary. 2035 01:48:15.680 --> 01:48:19.680 You lost our son in law, and yeah, and he 2036 01:48:19.880 --> 01:48:21.840 was a young man, he was a good he was 2037 01:48:21.880 --> 01:48:25.159 a great guy. We missed him terribly. So just hold 2038 01:48:25.199 --> 01:48:27.119 on the ones you love because you never know what's 2039 01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:28.119 going to happen tomorrow. 2040 01:48:29.279 --> 01:48:32.000 Well you know that sound advice, And also you have 2041 01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:35.439 the continuation you still have a relationship you know, with 2042 01:48:36.159 --> 01:48:38.119 a part of the man, and he's a memory for 2043 01:48:38.239 --> 01:48:41.520 your family, and you know what, you could just consider 2044 01:48:41.600 --> 01:48:44.840 it a limited time blessing that he was there. Right, 2045 01:48:45.720 --> 01:48:47.640 So that's the way I would try knock at it. 2046 01:48:47.920 --> 01:48:50.000 And I know that you're going to do that too, man, 2047 01:48:50.039 --> 01:48:51.800 and I appreciate you. Thanks for calling in. 2048 01:48:53.640 --> 01:48:54.159 You're welcome. 2049 01:48:55.119 --> 01:48:57.479 So there's Danny. Now let's go to Jimmy James and 2050 01:48:57.520 --> 01:48:59.319 see what is a final word for the week. 2051 01:48:59.479 --> 01:49:05.720 Is Jimmy your shout out? Final whatever? 2052 01:49:09.960 --> 01:49:17.479 Wow, we'll shut up to presumptive future governor Katie Porter. 2053 01:49:18.520 --> 01:49:20.479 Look, you know we get it. 2054 01:49:21.119 --> 01:49:23.760 I mean you're a hot tick. You're used to getting 2055 01:49:23.800 --> 01:49:28.920 away mean girl stuff. I mean you buy just used 2056 01:49:29.079 --> 01:49:34.199 your extraordinary beat duty to. 2057 01:49:35.680 --> 01:49:37.359 Sciz thattle through life, you know. 2058 01:49:39.279 --> 01:49:44.880 O masmerizing us man with your agees now getting away 2059 01:49:45.000 --> 01:49:48.439 with speeding tickets and things like that with your hotness. 2060 01:49:49.279 --> 01:49:52.479 But you got control that, Katie Porter. I mean, you're 2061 01:49:52.560 --> 01:49:56.159 just you're just too powerful and your arguments they're just 2062 01:49:56.279 --> 01:50:01.039 too persuasive. It's just too much, too much up woman, Katie. 2063 01:50:02.119 --> 01:50:07.279 Uh, Jimmy James with them with the sarcasm, Thanks for calling. 2064 01:50:09.520 --> 01:50:12.359 I love it when Jimmy does that anyways, sped can 2065 01:50:13.000 --> 01:50:15.159 I think we still got you go ahead and give 2066 01:50:15.199 --> 01:50:17.079 your final thought for the evening. 2067 01:50:19.720 --> 01:50:22.239 Well, I'm glad I got to, you know, jump in 2068 01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:25.239 for a little bit. I'll try to be back crown 2069 01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:31.079 more off. Yeah, since we have. But they've gone up 2070 01:50:31.159 --> 01:50:35.680 to the one and we're going into the seventh inning 2071 01:50:35.720 --> 01:50:38.520 now I think, or we're into seventh inning. So, uh, 2072 01:50:38.640 --> 01:50:43.119 this one pitcher the Spires less, they can't. They put 2073 01:50:43.159 --> 01:50:45.279 him in Game four. He gave a bunch of runs. 2074 01:50:45.319 --> 01:50:46.640 We lost that game. We should have won it. We 2075 01:50:46.680 --> 01:50:49.800 were up three to nothing halfway through the game, same 2076 01:50:49.880 --> 01:50:52.039 kind of scenario that might being up one nothing. They 2077 01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:55.600 pulled our starter, you know, Dan Wilson pulled our starter, 2078 01:50:56.399 --> 01:50:59.359 brings in this Spires guy again and he's only a 2079 01:50:59.399 --> 01:51:01.920 great left hand, but he's he gave up two runs. 2080 01:51:02.319 --> 01:51:05.760 So they're up two to one. And Dan Wilson, by 2081 01:51:05.760 --> 01:51:08.720 the way, is the manager or whatever. He was the 2082 01:51:08.840 --> 01:51:11.199 catcher back when I used to watch back in two 2083 01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:14.000 thousand and one, the last time they were winning twenty 2084 01:51:14.039 --> 01:51:18.319 four years ago. Now he's the manager and the MVP. 2085 01:51:18.439 --> 01:51:20.439 As far as I'm concerned of this season will be 2086 01:51:21.000 --> 01:51:24.039 cal Riley and but he hasn't been able to do 2087 01:51:24.199 --> 01:51:29.840 much to and Troy Pitcher they got in school Pitcher 2088 01:51:29.880 --> 01:51:32.520 and baseball, and man, he is just he's just throwing 2089 01:51:32.560 --> 01:51:35.119 bullets one hundred to one hundred and one mile an 2090 01:51:35.159 --> 01:51:40.199 hour basketballs and uh, it's just got us, what I mean, 2091 01:51:40.399 --> 01:51:44.159 just with exception of that one run and that was 2092 01:51:44.199 --> 01:51:47.479 some base feeling from Josh Naylor. This guy's pitching an 2093 01:51:47.520 --> 01:51:49.520 awesome game and we shouldn't even be here right now. 2094 01:51:49.560 --> 01:51:53.479 It was the same guy from last team has lost 2095 01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:56.960 costas two runs. So we're at the top of the seventh. 2096 01:51:58.800 --> 01:51:59.319 There you go. 2097 01:51:59.600 --> 01:52:02.479 Spend can't with the play by play, and Spen can't 2098 01:52:02.520 --> 01:52:04.359 with the play by play and the recap on that, 2099 01:52:04.680 --> 01:52:08.600 and B Pete, I reserved the last minute here for you. 2100 01:52:08.880 --> 01:52:10.920 Go for it, whatever it is you got on your mind. 2101 01:52:15.520 --> 01:52:18.840 Well, I appreciate everybody for calling in. Got another week 2102 01:52:18.880 --> 01:52:20.720 in the can, and I guess we'll just look forward 2103 01:52:20.720 --> 01:52:22.920 to doing it again next week. Go to a celi 2104 01:52:23.000 --> 01:52:25.159 dot com, hit the donate button, stick the crowbar in 2105 01:52:25.199 --> 01:52:25.600 your wallet. 2106 01:52:25.680 --> 01:52:29.159 Every little bit helps, Yes, it does, sir, and I 2107 01:52:29.279 --> 01:52:29.920 appreciate it. 2108 01:52:30.159 --> 01:52:33.119 And B Pete is not only saying it but he's 2109 01:52:33.159 --> 01:52:35.199 also a member. That's kind of like an old commercial 2110 01:52:36.199 --> 01:53:01.560 of the Plumb that doesn't s