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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. I had a friend send me this.
Speaker 1: It's a tweet from a Stanford student. It says Stanford
Speaker 1: students are so bad at dating. There's now a class
Speaker 1: where the assignment is to go on a date. And
Speaker 1: here is the curriculum guideline. And this is straight from
Speaker 1: the Stanford classes. You know, literature guidelines for the dating project.
Speaker 1: Number one, ask a classmate not limited to our class
Speaker 1: out on a level one date in person. Number two.
Speaker 1: Level one plan an activity in a public venue. No alcohol.
Speaker 1: Number three, spend no more than fifteen dollars. Number four,
Speaker 1: limit the date to ninety minutes. Number five. Write a
Speaker 1: narrative account of your experience, fallow by some reflections five
Speaker 1: hundred to eight hundred words. To prepare for this exercise,
Speaker 1: you're encouraged to read pages three to fifty six of
Speaker 1: Sherry Turkle's Reclaiming Conversation.
Speaker 2: We're teaching people how to be humans again. Yes.
Speaker 1: Level one is you can go for coffee. Level two,
Speaker 1: if a kiss is involved, it implies exclus exclusivetivity. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: this is stressing me out.
Speaker 2: Exclusivity, my God.
Speaker 1: And the attraction between both parties should be acknowledged. Real
Speaker 1: relationship work begins with level three when you ask yourself,
Speaker 1: can I lean on this person emotionally? Is this person
Speaker 1: going to become one of the primary emotional relationships in
Speaker 1: my life? God, they're just sucking the fun out of
Speaker 1: all of it, aren't they. That sounds and you hit
Speaker 1: the nail on the head. We have to teach people
Speaker 1: to be humans. That's terrifying. Shouldn't they have done the
Speaker 1: date in high school?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: I mean that's isn't that when you do it you
Speaker 3: gotta wait until you're required in a college class to
Speaker 3: do it.
Speaker 2: That's awful.
Speaker 4: Hey, Shannon, I had a pet duck. It was a
Speaker 4: junior high experiment. We hashed a bunch of little ducks.
Speaker 4: I asked my mom if I could take one home.
Speaker 4: Took it home, loved it. My duck's name was Shaq,
Speaker 4: super cute duck would followed me everywhere.
Speaker 5: My mom.
Speaker 4: One day, though, decided that she had enough of all
Speaker 4: the poop, and so she took the duck to a farm,
Speaker 4: and she didn't tell me about it, and to this
Speaker 4: day I still hate her for it.
Speaker 5: Oh wow, yeah, you know what? And what are the
Speaker 5: odds that that duck was taken to a farm.
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 5: I don't know what happened to that duck.
Speaker 2: You think they took it?
Speaker 5: Probably ended up with Kevin. You're abandoned pet.
Speaker 2: A white duck and a white cat.
Speaker 5: An unlikely friendship, that's very likely.
Speaker 2: Swap is horrible. The government doesn't work, man, Make this
Speaker 2: like a TV show.
Speaker 1: A bad doss always a pleasure to be anywhere from Washington,
Speaker 1: d C.
Speaker 6: Hey, Joe. A town hall too, clearly built on a
Speaker 6: swamp in so many ways, still a swamp, not a
Speaker 6: bunch of maworkee.
Speaker 2: Nobody said, drained the swamp. I said, Oh, that's so hope.
Speaker 1: You know the thing.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, swamp watch.
Speaker 2: I love swamp.
Speaker 3: Watch, swamp Watch, slump watch, love swamp Watch.
Speaker 2: One of the best parts of your show.
Speaker 6: Love it.
Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I think so exciting.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: I never heard that kind of excitement for us to
Speaker 1: engage in political discourse. I think he likes the sounder.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe not. That just sounds of us. So Nancy
Speaker 1: Pelosi comes out and she does an interview with CBS
Speaker 1: News Sunday morning where she makes.
Speaker 2: This bizarre assertion that.
Speaker 1: President Biden should be on Mount Rushmore, and even Leslie's
Speaker 1: still was like.
Speaker 2: Are we talking about the same Mount Rushmore? Are we
Speaker 2: talking about the same Joe.
Speaker 7: Biden top of his game, such a consequential president of
Speaker 7: the United States, a Mount Rushmore kind of president of
Speaker 7: the United States.
Speaker 5: Want to know what comes next?
Speaker 7: That he belongs up there on Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Lincoln and Joe Biden.
Speaker 7: But you got Teddy Roosevelt up there and he's wonderful.
Speaker 7: I don't say take him down, but you can add Biden.
Speaker 5: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: So this is what this is.
Speaker 1: This is Pelosi trying to make good for the fact
Speaker 1: that she was the one who kicked Biden out of
Speaker 1: the race. Everything was everyone was walking on eggshells. No
Speaker 1: one was saying anything overtly. Nancy Pelosi starts picking up
Speaker 1: the phone and that was the day that everything crumbled
Speaker 1: to the floor.
Speaker 3: That was also she did an interview with ABC also
Speaker 3: and was addressing that that rumor, that storyline.
Speaker 7: People said I was burning up the air was no,
Speaker 7: it wasn't. The Only person that I spoke to about
Speaker 7: this was the president. Other people called me about what
Speaker 7: their means were about it, but I rarely even returned
Speaker 7: a call, much less initiated one.
Speaker 2: Now, she also said, just let me just.
Speaker 1: She just said, I never spoke to anyone about this
Speaker 1: but the president, and then realized that she lied and
Speaker 1: had to rework her lie. And so then she says, well,
Speaker 1: people called me, but I rarely returned calls, which is
Speaker 1: leaving the door open for those calls. She did return
Speaker 1: to those three senators on the committee investigating the riot
Speaker 1: at the Capitol who were the first people to come
Speaker 1: out her soldiers and say he's got to step down.
Speaker 3: She said she never suggested he stepped down, that she
Speaker 3: just wanted to see a winning candidate.
Speaker 7: I wasn't asking him to step down. I was asking
Speaker 7: for a campaign that would win aha, And I wasn't
Speaker 7: seeing that on the horizon.
Speaker 2: So how is that? How are you not telling him
Speaker 2: not to step down?
Speaker 1: Talking out of both sides of her mouth, per usual,
Speaker 1: You don't, You don't have a career like Pelosi had
Speaker 1: in Washington and be an honorable person and a trustworthy person,
Speaker 1: and somebody who doesn't lie to every single person.
Speaker 3: The assertion though, that the president that Joe Biden has
Speaker 3: what would she say, the most consequential.
Speaker 7: A Mount Rushmore kind of president of the United States.
Speaker 5: Want to know what next?
Speaker 2: That he belongs up there.
Speaker 3: I just if he were as consequential, and I'm wouldn't
Speaker 3: he have stayed?
Speaker 2: I mean, isn't that part of why?
Speaker 3: Part of the reason that he stepped down from from
Speaker 3: the campaign is, you know, he he touts his successes,
Speaker 3: he touts his legislative accomplishments, but if there were more
Speaker 3: to it, Yeah, I mean the idea that he's stepping
Speaker 3: down out of duty to either his country or his party,
Speaker 3: or whichever order you want to put it in, that
Speaker 3: does not make him noteworthy.
Speaker 1: They tore down Biden's legacy. The whole party admitted he's
Speaker 1: in senile land, and now they're trying to build back
Speaker 1: up as legacy for their own, for their own purposes
Speaker 1: and the strength of party. Yeah, that's all it is.
Speaker 1: They don't believe any of this crap. She doesn't believe
Speaker 1: he should be on Mount Rushmore.
Speaker 2: Wall Street, is taking it in the shorts once again.
Speaker 3: The Dow's down more than nine hundred points right now,
Speaker 3: the bottom of the hour, We're going to be checking
Speaker 3: in with a former director of Office of Management and Budget,
Speaker 3: Mick mulvaney, former White House Chief of Staff, is actually
Speaker 3: an economic contributor now to News Nation.
Speaker 2: We'll check with him about what this means and what it.
Speaker 3: Could mean in terms of a couple of months, a
Speaker 3: few months left in this election. How important will the
Speaker 3: economy be when it comes to choosing another president.
Speaker 1: One of my girlfriends is a big Donald Trump fan,
Speaker 1: or if you ask KRT, a big Donald J. Trump fan,
Speaker 1: and she gets specific. She was talking over the weekend
Speaker 1: about how she hates this jd Vance pick. And she's
Speaker 1: not alone money.
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of people see because he doesn't
Speaker 3: really bring a whole lot to that ticket.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they say.
Speaker 1: The Trump campaign is seeking to help him move past
Speaker 1: this rough start vance by focusing on issues like the
Speaker 1: border that are going to resonate with the base. They're
Speaker 1: trying to have a jd Vance reset.
Speaker 3: Well, speaking of vice president, the vice president is going
Speaker 3: to make a choice for her vice presidential running mate
Speaker 3: within the next say twenty four hours or so. Most
Speaker 3: of the people believe that either late tonight or tomorrow
Speaker 3: morning is when the candidates that will be informed whether
Speaker 3: or not they were chosen. Three of them met with
Speaker 3: the vice president yesterday. Senator Mark Kelly out of Arizona,
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania Governor Joshapiro, Minnesota Governor Tim Walls all showed up
Speaker 3: at the Naval Observatory yesterday. She also spent some time
Speaker 3: with Pete Bootages, the Secretary Transportation, on Friday, and was
Speaker 3: meeting other candidates virtually, including Kentucky Governorry Busheer, Illinois Governor J. B. Pritzker,
Speaker 3: among others. The story regarding the story regarding her choice
Speaker 3: is going to be important because of the absolute barnstorming
Speaker 3: tour that they're going to go on. The campaign offered
Speaker 3: some detail. They have a five day tour in seven
Speaker 3: swing state cities starting right away Philadelphia, Auclaire, Wisconsin, Detroit, Durham,
Speaker 3: North Carolina, Savannah, Georgia, Phoenix, and then Vegas, all of
Speaker 3: them together.
Speaker 1: Supposedly, some Doug m Hoff dirt surfaced on Saturday. He
Speaker 1: admitted to cheating on his first wife. Apparently there was
Speaker 1: a bombshell report claims that he got his nanny pregnant.
Speaker 1: He reportedly strayed from his wife at the time, Kirsten,
Speaker 1: over a decade and a half ago, with a blonde nanny,
Speaker 1: Nason Nailer, caught at a private school attended by their
Speaker 1: two kids. She looks exactly like she sounds. Beautiful, blonde
Speaker 1: Norwegian was he.
Speaker 2: Was, Doug, Well, I don't not the right person to ask.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask him. He's a good looking guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not my thing.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 5: He she did not keep the baby.
Speaker 2: But what does that mean? We don't know what that means.
Speaker 3: The wife, by the way, the now ex wife, Kirsten, said,
Speaker 3: Doug and I decided to end our marriage for a
Speaker 3: variety of reasons many years ago. He is a great
Speaker 3: father to our kids, continues to be a great friend
Speaker 3: to me, and I'm really proud of the warm and supportive,
Speaker 3: blended family Doug, Kamala and I have built together.
Speaker 2: There was a video that.
Speaker 3: Was kind of making its way around social media this
Speaker 3: weekend also about toxic masculinity and that Doug m Hoff
Speaker 3: was caught in this this world of claiming to have
Speaker 3: been fighting against toxic masculinity, but at the same time
Speaker 3: gets outed for having an affair with the nanny while
Speaker 3: his wife, you know, while he was still married.
Speaker 2: As being second gentleman changed your own view of perceived
Speaker 2: gender roles, of what it means to be a man.
Speaker 8: This is something I've thought about a lot and something
Speaker 8: I've spoken about a lot. There's too much of toxicity,
Speaker 8: it's masculine toxicity out there, and we've kind of confused
Speaker 8: what it means to be a man, what it means
Speaker 8: to be masculine, where you've got this trope out there
Speaker 8: that you've got to be tough and you know, angry
Speaker 8: and lash out to be strong.
Speaker 2: It's just the opposite.
Speaker 8: You know, Strength is how you show your love for people.
Speaker 8: Strength is how you are for people and how you
Speaker 8: have their back, and how you stick up for other
Speaker 8: people and pushing up, pushing.
Speaker 2: Out against bullies.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what I believe it is. So every
Speaker 8: time I can speak against this toxicity, we're seeing it
Speaker 8: with our younger people. We're seeing it in our discourse
Speaker 8: and our politics.
Speaker 4: In the media.
Speaker 8: You're seeing it as it relates to so many of
Speaker 8: the issues that we're pushing back on. So I think
Speaker 8: it's a problem and I'm going to continue to use
Speaker 8: this platform every time I get to speak out against
Speaker 8: this toxic why not lean.
Speaker 1: Into the fact that you're married to a very strong woman.
Speaker 1: You know she gets strength points when her husband talks
Speaker 1: like that, I think, because you know who has to
Speaker 1: say in that household.
Speaker 3: But the most toxic, the most toxicly masculine thing that
Speaker 3: should be said is sometimes it takes toxic masculinity to
Speaker 3: tamp down a toxic man. There's a difference between negatively
Speaker 3: negative masculinity, which I think that's hence the word toxic,
Speaker 3: and masculinity through strength, the idea that you that you're
Speaker 3: going to hug your way out of need.
Speaker 5: A masculine response to some things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like when you've talked about it before, when
Speaker 1: people don't get angry, when politicians don't get angry, and
Speaker 1: I can't like put my finger on a specific situation,
Speaker 1: but you get pissed off when there's no showing of
Speaker 1: masculinity after a shooting or a crisis or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like where's the anger at where's the like? You
Speaker 5: know what I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: It's why you know everyone loved the Toby Keith song
Speaker 1: After nine to eleven. We'll put a boot in your ass.
Speaker 1: It's the American way. There's something that resonates with a
Speaker 1: masculine response to somebody doing something very wrong.
Speaker 3: Then that's why I hate it when they do things
Speaker 3: like that. I mean, some of what he said, sure
Speaker 3: makes sense, but you don't clarify. Yeah, you don't get
Speaker 3: I mean, you're just talking about how men are the
Speaker 3: root of all evil around this place and they're not.
Speaker 3: I wanted to point out that we were talking about
Speaker 3: that RFK Junior story and the bear that he supposedly
Speaker 3: planted in Central Park. My wife reminded me, that's very
Speaker 3: much something that my family would have done, was picked
Speaker 3: up roadkill.
Speaker 2: Perfectly good road for sure.
Speaker 1: And I told you that that's going to play well
Speaker 1: in some parts of this country.
Speaker 2: Probably will, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 1: The spiral of the American financial markets today stoking fears
Speaker 1: of a recession, it all started when we got a
Speaker 1: soft jobs report last Thursday, and the snowball continues to
Speaker 1: roll down the hill.
Speaker 3: Joining us now to talk more about this. Mick mulvaney,
Speaker 3: economic contributor to News Nation, of course, former director of
Speaker 3: OMB and also acting White House Chief of Staff for
Speaker 3: a time. There and Mick we spoke on Friday about
Speaker 3: what we thought was going on. Is this still a
Speaker 3: hangover from that job's report from last week?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so. It's also a chance for some
Speaker 6: folks to take some profits, some significant profits, off the table.
Speaker 6: Of course, it's more than that. It's not just regular
Speaker 6: profit taking. But I think when we talked on Friday,
Speaker 6: we had raised a couple of weeks worth of games
Speaker 6: in the Dow. Looked at the S and P or
Speaker 6: the broader indexes today, but the Dow is just almost
Speaker 6: exactly where it was on June seventeenth. So you've given
Speaker 6: up less than two months worth of worth of benefit. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it's tough to take. There's no question. You get games
Speaker 6: in the stock market. You want to you want to
Speaker 6: keep them. You don't hate, you don't want to lose money.
Speaker 6: But it's not it's not as dramatic. I've heard it explain,
Speaker 6: you know, described on the internet as the next you know,
Speaker 6: big meltdown, the worst thing since October of nineteen eighty seven,
Speaker 6: And it's neither of those things. It's a an ordinary correction,
Speaker 6: and it was triggered by those bad job numbers last week.
Speaker 1: The three major US indexes to your point, do remain
Speaker 1: positive for the year and the other experts, of course
Speaker 1: we went straight to the top with you, but they
Speaker 1: have said that, yes, this is kind of a course question.
Speaker 5: But it feels like shock and awe in the moment.
Speaker 6: It always does, doesn't it. I mean, it's just it's tough,
Speaker 6: and the numbers are so much bigger now. Remember when
Speaker 6: you know, when I was a kid and the Dow
Speaker 6: was at three thousand, you know, six percent would be
Speaker 6: eighty points, not six per said, it's a thousand over
Speaker 6: a thousand points, So it's a big deal in terms
Speaker 6: of the numbers. It's the percentages you want to look at,
Speaker 6: and to your point, the fact that they're still positive
Speaker 6: for the years is noteworthy.
Speaker 3: The other issue, of course, that plays into this, or
Speaker 3: that could result from this, is the FED reserve and
Speaker 3: a decision whether or not to cut rates now or
Speaker 3: wait until September.
Speaker 2: If they do anything, then.
Speaker 3: Do they react the same way, I hope not the
Speaker 3: same way that normal people do when they see these headlines.
Speaker 6: They're not supposed to. But at the same time, there's
Speaker 6: still people Keep in mind, where do you start from
Speaker 6: when you talk about the FED? What's their legal mandate.
Speaker 6: They've got really two sort of legal which is stable prices,
Speaker 6: which is inflation, and full employment. That's the dual mandate
Speaker 6: of the Federal Reserve. So that doesn't mean that they're
Speaker 6: supposed to buoy markets. Now that being said, if the
Speaker 6: markets are moving down because the market's anticipator recession, certainly
Speaker 6: the Fed is going to pay attention to that because
Speaker 6: the said would try and make any recession as gentle
Speaker 6: and as short as possible, So there's a sentiment involved there.
Speaker 6: And plus if the wealth effect, if the markets tank
Speaker 6: enough to where people feel like they don't have as
Speaker 6: much money to spend, they don't feel as wealthy, then
Speaker 6: that can become a self fulfilling prophecy and lead to
Speaker 6: a recession in itself. So yeah, the Fed is not
Speaker 6: supposed to act like normal people. They're supposed to follow
Speaker 6: the law and their mandation, and so for the most
Speaker 6: part they do that. But there's still people at the
Speaker 6: end of the day. I cannot imagine unless something dramatic
Speaker 6: happens in addition to what we've seen then, I mean
Speaker 6: a much steeper drop in the market or some other
Speaker 6: macroeconomic event, something overseas. Perhaps that they would do anything
Speaker 6: before September that would be really really hard for them
Speaker 6: to justify under the current circumstances and most importantly, damage
Speaker 6: their credibility going forward. You can't can't create an expectation
Speaker 6: that every time the market goes down a couple of points,
Speaker 6: the FED comes in.
Speaker 1: Following what happened in nineteen eighty seven, they made it
Speaker 1: possible to just kind of pause the markets should it
Speaker 1: get there. Do you anticipate it getting to that point
Speaker 1: in the next couple of days.
Speaker 6: No, no, No, we didn't do that during COVID. I
Speaker 6: mean they drop off. We staw during COVID. I think
Speaker 6: it was February of March of twenty twenty. Was as
Speaker 6: out as dramatic. I think in the percentage charge during
Speaker 6: my lifetime. I'd have to go back and see because
Speaker 6: I was I'm older than you folks are, but I
Speaker 6: was only in college in eighty seven. But no, I
Speaker 6: don't see them shutting down markets or freezing temporary suspending training,
Speaker 6: except perhaps on individual stocks if they see something unusual
Speaker 6: going on.
Speaker 3: Okay, we spoke on Friday about how crazy the next
Speaker 3: three months are going to be.
Speaker 2: Obviously there will be.
Speaker 3: Some political gain and loss out of a market correction
Speaker 3: like this because of the impact that people have, the
Speaker 3: fear of the personal feelings they have. Is this a
Speaker 3: winner for one side or the other or can it
Speaker 3: be you for one side or the other?
Speaker 6: It absolutely can and will be used. Whether or not
Speaker 6: it's effective remains to be seen. Look, I used to
Speaker 6: tell the President all the time that part of the
Speaker 6: art of doing the job is taking credit for stuff
Speaker 6: you're not responsible for and then avoiding blame on stuff
Speaker 6: you are responsible for. Because when you're washing, when you're
Speaker 6: when you're president of the United States, you get blamed
Speaker 6: for all the bad stuff and get credit for all
Speaker 6: the good stuff even if you had nothing to do
Speaker 6: with it. So it doesn't surprise me, for example, that
Speaker 6: when the market was running up in the months of
Speaker 6: June and July that Donald Trump you out and said, well,
Speaker 6: this is in expectation of me winning, so I'm going
Speaker 6: to take credit for it going up. And now that
Speaker 6: it's had a rough couple of days, is blaming it
Speaker 6: on Biden Harris? It's you know, it's their fault for
Speaker 6: going down. The other side will be doing it the
Speaker 6: exact same thing, and it's across It's across various topics, right.
Speaker 6: I mean, you've seen both sides trying to take credit
Speaker 6: for the hostage exchange last week that Trump said it
Speaker 6: was because Russians thought he was going to win and
Speaker 6: they want Biden to win, and Biden said the exact opposite.
Speaker 6: So yeah, that's that's politics. There remains to be seen.
Speaker 6: I don't think this is a major player in the
Speaker 6: in the November election, but if it is the General
Speaker 6: of Thomas. Anytime the economy is more and more in
Speaker 6: people's minds, the better the Republicans are going to do.
Speaker 6: Now the stock market stays choppy like this for a
Speaker 6: couple of months because we're still a couple of months
Speaker 6: out the election, and people start to worry about their
Speaker 6: four to one k's even more than they are today,
Speaker 6: that could help the Republicans for sure.
Speaker 1: Mick mulvaney always a pleasure. Former director at the Office
Speaker 1: of Management and Budget, former White House Chief of Staff
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 5: Always appreciate your time.
Speaker 6: Thanks ch'all.
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Speaker 1: If you're quite the pivot, quite the pivot serve from Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have an update from the Duck Sanctuary. They listened
Speaker 1: to the show and they would like us a sponsor
Speaker 1: a baby duck. And I think this is a real
Speaker 1: conversation that we have to have. This is somebody in
Speaker 1: our community in America who needs our help, and I
Speaker 1: think it would be a nice thing.
Speaker 5: For us to do.
Speaker 1: We could share custody of the duck. I could take
Speaker 1: it home on Mondays. You could take it home Tuesday, Thursday.
Speaker 1: Jacob could take it home Wednesday Friday and keep it
Speaker 1: through the weekend. I think we could all do this together.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is what society is built on, shared burdens.
Speaker 1: How many days do you get I get it on Mondays?
Speaker 2: Just one day? Just the one, okay.
Speaker 1: And I just think that if you want to be
Speaker 1: a communist about it, I do then fine. But I
Speaker 1: am standing here as an American saying that I will
Speaker 1: foster a duck with you guys and your help.
Speaker 2: Good.
Speaker 5: I think it would be something nice.
Speaker 2: I think it's very nice.
Speaker 1: You're talking to me like you're talking to somebody who's
Speaker 1: in a psychiatric facility.
Speaker 2: Yes, put down the fire and the sharp objects now,
Speaker 2: please please.
Speaker 3: The Dow Jones Industrial average did not like our conversation
Speaker 3: with mcmulvaney and dropped below a thousand again, or I
Speaker 3: should say down a thousand. It's still now below thirty
Speaker 3: nine thousand, thirty eight thousand and seven forty four. Global
Speaker 3: equity market route continues. We have about an hour left
Speaker 3: in trading on Wall Street, and as we've seen in
Speaker 3: previous situations like this, to see here everything's fine. Sometimes
Speaker 3: that last hour gets a little more volatile than the others,
Speaker 3: so we will keep an eye on that. The campaign
Speaker 3: to be Vice President Harris's running mate is reaching its
Speaker 3: final hours, and now it looks like the top two
Speaker 3: contenders Governor jos Shapiro of Pennsylvania and Governor Tim Walls
Speaker 3: of Minnesota. According to a source that talked to Fox News.
Speaker 3: They said that those two are the ones that she
Speaker 3: is deciding between. That would leave out, of course, Mark
Speaker 3: Kelly out of Arizona, Pete Bootage, the Transportation secretary, and
Speaker 3: some others that had been named in the process.
Speaker 5: There, Gabby Thomas is beautiful.
Speaker 2: My goodness, she's very fast.
Speaker 5: She's very fast as well.
Speaker 1: A growing number of younger adults in this country say
Speaker 1: they are unlikely to have kids, the primary reason being
Speaker 1: they just don't want to. This is according to the
Speaker 1: Pew Research Center, found the share of adults under fifty
Speaker 1: who say they're unlikely to ever have kids climb ten
Speaker 1: points ten percentage points since twenty eighteen.
Speaker 3: This is this Pew pole that you pointed out to
Speaker 3: me during the break. It's interesting because it's not just
Speaker 3: a question of those who say they don't want to
Speaker 3: have kids, it's what do other Americans think about fewer
Speaker 3: people choosing to have children? Like what does that mean
Speaker 3: for us as a culture, as a as a country.
Speaker 3: And that, to me is just an interesting way to
Speaker 3: ask the question about half. Like you said, about half
Speaker 3: of all adults say that fewer people choosing to have
Speaker 3: children in the future would have a negative impact on
Speaker 3: the country. Men, older adults, Republicans, and anybody with a
Speaker 3: higher income among the most likely to say that fewer
Speaker 3: people having children would have a negative impact.
Speaker 1: Well, because the people who you don't want to have
Speaker 1: kids are going to have them. Wanting to focus on
Speaker 1: careers or interests was the second most popular reason behind
Speaker 1: I just don't want to. For the younger group. The
Speaker 1: older group, their second most popular reason was I haven't
Speaker 1: found the right partner. There's a bunch of men running
Speaker 1: around without socks, without socks, socks and sex. Sure, there's
Speaker 1: people that are making money off of coming up with
Speaker 1: AI apps for companionship.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and not normal human interaction.
Speaker 1: Nobody's interacting with humans anymore. They're interacting with machines.
Speaker 2: Uh So.
Speaker 3: What they also asked was are there policies that could
Speaker 3: be put in place that would encourage people to have
Speaker 3: more more kids? And six and ten said free childcare
Speaker 3: would be extremely or very effective now. And I don't
Speaker 3: want to cast dispersions on anybody who's who's gonna have
Speaker 3: a kid and then have to put their kid in childcare,
Speaker 3: But there is something to be said about you're having
Speaker 3: a you're having a kid.
Speaker 2: I mean that.
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's necessarily be baked into it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: there are people who, through whatever circumstances, they can't not
Speaker 3: have childcare. They've got to work, especially single parents. You've
Speaker 3: got to have some amount of income and working is
Speaker 3: the way you're going to get that, hopefully, and that means.
Speaker 2: You're gonna have to have childcare.
Speaker 3: About half of the Americans said that requiring employers to
Speaker 3: provide paid family leave would be highly effective. A similar
Speaker 3: share said the same about providing more tax credits for parents,
Speaker 3: and forty five percent. Forty five percent of Americans said
Speaker 3: giving parents of minor children a monthly payment would be
Speaker 3: a highly effective policy. Then we're getting into some weird
Speaker 3: areas here, because then you're paying people.
Speaker 1: To have kids, and those are the last people you
Speaker 1: want to have kids.
Speaker 2: That's exactly why it's like you.
Speaker 1: Go, that goes back to the welfare mother argument from
Speaker 1: the eighties. Keep having those kids to keep getting more checks. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're going to read you're going to re reframe that
Speaker 1: some way of saving America.
Speaker 3: No significant gender differences among Democrats, except on paid family lead.
Speaker 3: They said Democratic women sixty four percent more likely than
Speaker 3: men fifty eight percent to see paid family leave as
Speaker 3: a highly.
Speaker 2: Effective way to encourage more people to have kids.
Speaker 3: I mean, we know people who took months off when
Speaker 3: their kids were born. Men, men who took months off.
Speaker 3: Now again, there are going to be circumstances. You took
Speaker 3: off twelve hours. I did two days. Honestly, I did
Speaker 3: two days, and I feel awful about it. I mean,
Speaker 3: my kids are fine, everything worked out fine.
Speaker 1: But there's a happy medium between two days and three months.
Speaker 3: Yes, and if I could do that, yeah, I would
Speaker 3: go back and do it differently.
Speaker 2: I take it at least.
Speaker 1: Wow, So this just breaking the Nate Silver forecast model.
Speaker 1: Now give Kamala Harris a fifty three percent chance of winning.
Speaker 1: And that's the that's the one that did not screw
Speaker 1: us over the Nate Silver numbers, right am I remembering
Speaker 1: that correctly?
Speaker 3: Not entirely, but I think Nate Silver it was when
Speaker 3: he was head of five thirty eight.
Speaker 2: That was what a lot of people I.
Speaker 1: Don't I don't all do a deep dive in the
Speaker 1: break good question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've still got three months left. Though still got
Speaker 2: three months.
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