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Speaker 1: Imagine you are walking down a trail with a close.

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Speaker 2: Friend, just a completely normal day, right, exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's a beautiful afternoon. Yeah, you know, the sun is shining,

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the air is crisp.

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Speaker 2: You're probably mid conversation, yeah, maybe.

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Speaker 1: Laughing about something that happened earlier that week. And you

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turn your head to look at a bird in the

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trees for like literally ten.

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Speaker 2: Seconds, just a handful of seconds, just.

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Speaker 1: Ten seconds, and when you turn back, the trail is

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just empty.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: There are no sounds of a struggle. There are no

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footprints leading away into the brush.

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Speaker 2: No rustling of leaves either.

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Speaker 1: Nothing just gone. It sounds like a scene ripped straight

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out of the sci fi movie, doesn't it.

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not. This is the terrifying, like strictly

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documented reality of the cases we are examining today. Welcome

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to thrilling threads.

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Speaker 2: It's just a profound disruption of everything we think we

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know about physical reality.

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Speaker 1: Oh completely.

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Speaker 2: I mean, we operate our entire lives on the assumption

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of object permanence, right, the idea that a solid mass

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a human being cannot simply be erased from a space

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without transferring energy, leaving a mark or making a.

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Speaker 1: Sound right the physics of it.

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Speaker 2: Exactly when that fundamental law is broken, the cognitive dissonance

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is just staggering.

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Speaker 1: Which is exactly our mission for this deep dive into

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the archives today. We are pulling from an incredibly extensive

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stack of investigative records, historical maritime logs, aviation radio transcripts,

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police files too, yeah, official police files. And we are

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setting out to unravel ten of the most baffling, physics

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defying vanishings in recorded history.

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Speaker 2: And we should clarify something right out of the gate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I want to be clear right up front.

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These are not cases where someone simply packed bag and

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ran away to start a new life. These are cases

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that fundamentally break the rules of how the world is

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supposed to work.

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Speaker 2: But before we open these files, we really need to

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establish some ground rules for our analysis today.

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Speaker 1: Always a good idea.

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Speaker 2: Because as we navigate this material we will inevitably encounter

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a vast spectrum of theories. I mean, the archives we

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are pulling from contain public speculation ranging from complex government

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espionage to extraterrestrial encounters and supernatural phenomena.

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Speaker 1: People love a wild theory, they do.

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Speaker 2: But it is not our job today to endorse any

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of these viewpoints or validate fringe theories. We are here

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to impartially report the documented facts facts, the confirmed forensic evidence,

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and the official operational records. We will lay out the variables,

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explain the science and the environments. Well, we'll let you weigh.

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Speaker 1: The evidence right, because we are inviting you to play

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armchair detective right alongside us. I want you to really

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visualize these.

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Speaker 2: Scenarios with yourself right there in the moment, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Put yourself in the shoes of the investigators, the witnesses.

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Speaker 2: And the missing, and we encourage you to actively listen

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for the anomalies. What stands out to you as we

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move through these files.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, grabs your attention.

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Speaker 2: Pay close attention to the structural patterns, the rigid timelines,

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and most importantly, the physical and technological constraints of each environment.

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Speaker 1: Because the environment is key.

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Speaker 2: It is often the environment itself is the most crucial witness.

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Speaker 1: So let's start by totally shattering the illusion of safety.

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We usually think of mysterious vanishings happening out in the

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middle of a vast, unforgiving desert or deep in an

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uncharted jungle.

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Speaker 2: Sure, isolated places, right, But.

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Speaker 1: Our first stack of archives upends that entirely. We're talking

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about the proximity.

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Speaker 2: Paradox, disappearing right in front of people.

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Speaker 1: Exactly disappearing not in an isolated wilderness, but right in

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front of witnesses or even more impossibly, right in front

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of unblinking security cameras.

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Speaker 2: That's where things get really unnerving.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's unpack this with an archive from April first,

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two thousand and six in Columbus, Ohio. The Brian Shaffer.

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Speaker 2: Case, a very famous, very baffling file.

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Speaker 1: So Brian is a twenty seven year old medical student.

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He goes out for a night of drinking to celebrate

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the start of spring break at this second story bar

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called the Ugly Tuna Saluna Catch you name. Right around

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one point fifteen in the morning, the bar's security cameras

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catch him outside the main entrance. He is visibly chatting

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with two young women.

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Speaker 2: So we have him on tape looking totally.

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Speaker 1: Normal, totally normal, and the footage clearly shows him finishing

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the conversation, turning around and heading back inside the bar.

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Speaker 2: And that's it.

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Speaker 1: That is the absolute last time anyone ever saw him.

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Speaker 2: The architectural context of this building is what elevates this

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from a standard missing person's case to well, a locked

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room anomaly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, explain the layout because it's wild.

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Speaker 2: Well, the Ugly Tuna Saluna was situated in a complex

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that was undergoing massive, heavy renovations. Because of this act

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of construction, the entire space was effectively sealed off to

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the public save for one specific choke point.

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Speaker 1: Here's one way in and out.

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Speaker 2: Literally only one exit, a dedicated escalator, and the security

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camera was hardwired to point directly at the top of

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that escalator like a tract exactly. It captured a continuous,

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unbroken field of view of the only viable exit.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a mathematical equation. One human goes into the

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sealed box. If one human doesn't come out, the math

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is broken.

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Speaker 2: The math just doesn't work.

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Speaker 1: No, when Brian didn't emerge at closing time, the police

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got involved. And I want to stress they did just

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casually skim this security.

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Speaker 2: Footage, right, They really dug in.

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Speaker 1: They utilized a technique called pixel scrubbing. They painstakingly crossed

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reference every single person who went into that bar with

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every single person who walked back.

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Speaker 2: Out, matching them all up one by one exactly.

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Speaker 1: They accounted for the staff, the band, the patrons, every

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single human mass was tracked except Brian.

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Speaker 2: It's inexplicable.

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Speaker 1: And they even brought in cadaver in tracking dogs to

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scour the entire building from top to bottom, including all

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the hazardous construction zones, the service elevators, and the vents.

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Speaker 2: Because maybe he wandered off.

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Speaker 1: And had an accident, that's what you'd think. But not

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a single trace of his scent outside that building.

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Speaker 2: You know. The stark contrast between human fallibility and technological

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certainty is what makes this so chilling. Well, human memory

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is notoriously malleable. Right, Witnesses suffer from fatigue, They blink,

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Speaker 1: Right. Our brains fill in the gaps exactly.

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Speaker 2: Our brains fill in gaps with false information under stress.

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But a closed circuit television camera operates on pure physics.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't get distracted, it.

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Speaker 2: Does not suffer from cognitive bias. If a solid object

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passes through its vocal plane, it records it. To theorize

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that Brian Shaffer somehow evaded this camera requires us to

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believe he found an exit that architects, construction crews, police,

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and specialized scent dogs completely.

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Speaker 1: Missed, which is basically impossible, or.

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Speaker 2: That he managed to camouflage himself perfectly among a crowd

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of people leaving despite being a distinctly tall man in

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brightly colored clothing.

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Speaker 1: Right. Theorized that maybe he slipped out through a service

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door that the construction crew used, but even if he did,

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those doors led to alarms, or to shear drops.

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Speaker 2: Or to areas heavily covered by other cameras in the

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surrounding street grid.

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Speaker 1: Exactly the Columbus Police pulled the CCTV footage from the

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surrounding blocks to nothing. He stepped into a crowded college

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bar and.

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Speaker 2: Evaporatedim just completely gone.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's take that same impossible dynamic vanishing while being

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watched and move it from a concrete building into the

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natural elements. December nineteen forty six, The Long Trail.

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Speaker 2: In Vermont, another classic proximity case.

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Speaker 1: An eighteen year old college student, Ampaula Jeane Weldon tells

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her roommate she's going for a quick afternoon hike.

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Speaker 2: And we should note this is a hike on a

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trail that was far from deserted. The long trail, even

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in winter, sees foot traffic.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly how much traffic becomes the crux of the mystery.

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An older couple, the atoms Is, were walking just one

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hundred yards behind Paula. That is so close they had

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a clear, unobstructed visual line of sight. They watched her

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walk ahead, this bright flash of red clothing against the

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winter landscape, and reach a bend in the trail near

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a rocky outcropping.

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Speaker 2: Very distinct visual She.

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Speaker 1: Rounds the bend. A few seconds later, the couple reaches

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that exact same spot, expecting to see her continuing down

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the path.

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Speaker 2: She is gone. Wow. To understand the sheer impossibility of this,

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environment and.

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Speaker 1: The subsequent search, which was massive.

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executed a grid search that left no stone unturned.

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Speaker 1: They were check it everywhere.

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Speaker 2: They checked local farms, they explored limestone caves, they dragged rivers,

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Speaker 1: Evidence, no clothing, nothing.

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Speaker 2: No discarded clothing, no signs of a struggle, no blood.

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But to give this its proper terrifying context, Paula's disappearance

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is the anchor case of the infamous Bennington Triangle.

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Speaker 1: Ah, yes, the triangle.

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Speaker 2: She is one of five individuals who vanished in that

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exact same, relatively small geographic pocket between nineteen forty five

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Speaker 1: Five people in five years. And it wasn't just hikers.

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boy playing in a yard, a woman on a hike,

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and a man who vanished from a moving bus.

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Speaker 2: From a moving bus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, how does science explain a geographic pocket

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that just seems to eat people?

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Speaker 2: Well, when you look at the sheer mathematical improbability of

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multiple unconnected people vanishing without a trace in the exact

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same woods, you have to analyze the topography and the atmosphere.

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Speaker 1: Okay, lay some science on me.

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Speaker 2: We often assume forests are acoustically and visually predictable. They

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really aren't. Environmental scientists and acoustic engineers study phenomena known

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as acoustic shadows.

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Speaker 1: Acoustic shadows that sounds creepy.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of in dense mountainous tree lines, particularly

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during the winter months when temperature and versions occur, meaning

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a l the air of cold air is trapped beneath

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a layer of warm air. Sound waves behavior.

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Speaker 1: Radically, so the sound gets trapped.

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Speaker 2: Not trapped, refracted. Instead of traveling in a straight line,

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sound waves can refract upward into the warmer air. This

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creates localized sensory blind spots.

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Speaker 2: Really, yes, A person could be fifty feet away from you,

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screaming at the top of their lungs, and the atmospheric

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physics would literally bend their voice right over your head,

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rendering them completely silent to your ears.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Okay, acoustic shadows explain the silence. If Paula

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fell into a hidden crevasse or was attacked, the temperature

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inversion could have muted her screams exactly. But it doesn't

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explain the lack of physical evidence, right, the complete absence

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of a trail. Ah, and I want to push back

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on the topography argument a bit by looking at a

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Speaker 2: Let's hear it.

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Speaker 1: July two thousand and seven, Barbara Bullock, a fifty five

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year old woman in excellent physical shape, is hiking in

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the Bitterroot Mountains of.

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Speaker 2: Montana, a rugged area, but she was experienced very She

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Speaker 1: They're heading toward a scenic spot called the Bear Creek Overlook.

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Speaker 2: The view, and Barbara is right there.

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Speaker 1: Barbara is right behind him, maybe twenty or thirty feet back.

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Jim turns his back to her for less than sixty seconds.

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Speaker 2: The sixty second timeframe completely dismantles the standard lost hiker models.

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perhaps two to three miles per hour. In sixty seconds,

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Barbara could have logically traveled no more than a few

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hundred feet.

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Speaker 1: And the trail had no hidden drop offs. There were

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no sheer cliffs right beside them, where a sudden, silent

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misstep sends you into a canyon, So.

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Speaker 2: She couldn't have just fallen silently out of sight exactly.

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Speaker 1: Even if she suffered a sudden medical event like a

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heart attack or a stroke, her body would literally be

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right there on the path, the absence of sound, the

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absence of a body. It immediately made law enforcement vies

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of Jim naturally, and let's be honest, in the true

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crime space, the last person to see someone alive is

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always the primary suspect. You know how that goes.

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Speaker 2: Law enforcement operated on that exact statistical probability. Jim Rammaker

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was the focal point of the initial investigation.

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Speaker 1: But he wasn't guilty.

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Speaker 2: No, the official records challenge our cynicism here. He cooperated

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fully without hesitation. He voluntarily submitted to and passed a

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polygraph test.

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Speaker 1: Which is huge.

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Speaker 2: But more importantly, forensic investigators scoured the immediate area and

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his person and they couldn't find a single shred of

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physical evidence. No disturbed earth indicating a struggle, no defensive wounds,

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no dragged brush tying him to foul play. If he

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did something to her, he would have had to subdue

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her silently, hide her perfectly, and compose himself entirely within

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a one minute window. It really strains the limits of

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physical capability.

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Speaker 1: And we aren't talking about a nineteen forty six search

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party with lanterns and bloodhounds here. The search for Barbara

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utilized two thousand seven military grade technology.

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Speaker 2: A completely different ballgame.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about one of the most comprehensive search

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and rescue operations in Montana's history. They deployed helicopters equipped

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with FLIR forward looking infrared thermal cameras scanning the forest canopy.

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Speaker 2: And the mechanics of FLR are vital to understand here.

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Thermal imaging doesn't look for visual shapes, you know, it

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reads temperature.

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Speaker 1: Deltas, just looking for heat.

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Speaker 2: Right. A human body radiates roughly ninety eight point six

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degrees of heat against the cool background of the Montana wilderness.

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A living human or even a recently deceased body that

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hasn't fully cooled to ambient temperature, glows like a beacon

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on a thermal.

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Speaker 1: Monitor, so you can't really hide from it.

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Speaker 2: The only way to evade a thermal camera is to

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be deeply submerged in water, buried under a significant amount

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of earth or dense rock, or insulated by specialized thermal

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blocking materials.

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Speaker 1: Yet massive ground teams combed the grid for weeks. Helicopters

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scan the heat signatures night after night, and they found

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absolutely nothing. Not a trace, not a dropwak, not a footprint,

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not a thread from her clothing. How does a fit

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experienced hiker disappear in the time it takes to glance

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at a text message, leaving no heat signature and making

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no sound.

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Speaker 2: It's baffling. It forces us to confront the terrifying fragility

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of our own perception. We trust that if we are

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near someone, we can protect them or at least bear

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witness to what happens to them.

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Speaker 1: That proximity illusion again.

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Speaker 2: But if we want to truly isolate this proximity paradox,

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the idea of vanishing while surrounded by people, we have

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to examine an incredibly detailed archival record from seventeen sixty

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three the town of Shepton Mallet in England, the case

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of Owen parfet.

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Speaker 1: I love this case because it feels completely impossible.

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Speaker 2: It really does so.

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Speaker 1: Owen was in his sixties, a former sailor and tailor,

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and he had suffered a massive stroke. This stroke left

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him practically paralyzed. He was almost completely unable to move

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his lower body and relied heavily on others for basic funk.

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Speaker 2: So he's not walking away on his own.

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Speaker 1: No way. He lived with his sister, who acted as

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his primary caretaker. On a warm summer afternoon, she and

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a neighbor physically lift him out of his bed and

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set him up in a sturdy wooden share on the

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front porch so he can get some fresh air.

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Speaker 2: And they bundle him up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they wrap him up in a heavy restrictive coat.

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His sister goes inside to do some everyday chores.

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Speaker 2: The critical variable in this historical record isn't just Owen's

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physical immobility, though, it's the environment across the street right

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the workers less than fifty hours away. Directly facing the

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porch is a crew of agricultural workers actively fixing a fence.

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They have an unobstructed direct line of sight to the porch.

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Speaker 1: About fifteen minutes later, his sister comes back outside. The

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chair is completely empty, the heavy coat is still draped

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over it. Owen is gone in fifteen minutes. The sister

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immediately panics, runs to the workers across the road and

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asks where he went. The workers swear they hadn't taken

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their eyes off the property for more than a few

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moments at a time. Nobody came near the house, and

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they hadn't seen Owen move an inch. It's just wild now,

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let's just do a mental exercise here. Think about moving

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a paralyzed adult. It is clumsy, it is incredibly heavy,

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it requires extreme leverage, and it is noisy.

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Speaker 2: It's not a discree operation.

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Speaker 1: No, if someone came to kidnap him, they would have

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to lift a struggling dead wheat man. Human peripheral vision

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is highly attuned to sudden movement. The idea that a

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violent abduction, or even a miraculous medical recovery where Owen

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just stood up and sprinted away happened silently in broad daylight,

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fifty yards from a crew of workers. It breaks the brain.

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A man who cannot walk simply evaporates.

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Speaker 2: When you review the primary source depositions from the era,

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the investigators were equally baffled. They searched the local wells,

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the fields, the nearby woods, nothing, nothing at all. If

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we step back and view these four files Shaffer, Welden, Bullock,

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and Parfet, the thematic threat is deeply unnerving. Whether it's

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an unblinking security camera, an older couple one hundred yards

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away of turning around for sixty seconds, or workers right

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across the street. The illusion of safety provided by proximity

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is completely shattered. Being near other humans does not anchor

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you to the physical world.

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Speaker 1: It makes you look over your shoulder, doesn't it the

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sheer physical impossibility of it. But as we move from

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physical anomalies, we plunge into something even.

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Speaker 2: Darker, a different kind of wilderness.

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Speaker 1: Exactly what happens when the disappearance doesn't seem like an

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accident of geography, but a manifestation of the mind. What

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happens when a human being seems to psychologically telegraph their

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own erasure from the world.

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Speaker 2: We enter the labyrinth of the mind. These next archives

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challenge our understanding of psychological contagion.

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Speaker 1: Psychological contagion I like that term.

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Speaker 2: We must examine cases where individuals become so consumed by

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an idea or by the ghost of another person, that

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their own survival instincts are completely overwritten.

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Speaker 1: Which brings us to the haunting archive of Keith Reinhart

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in nineteen eighty eight. Keith is a sports journalist in Chicago.

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He's successful, but he's going through through a severe midlife crisis.

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Failing stuck, he feels creatively stifled. He decides he needs

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a radical, jarring change of scenery to finally write the

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great American novel He's always dreamed of. He leaves his

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family behind in Illinois and moves to a tiny, isolated,

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high altitude town in Colorado called Silver Plume.

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Speaker 2: The geography of silver Plume is a central context here.

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It sits at an elevation of over nine thousand feet,

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the air is thin, the winters are brutal, and the

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isolation is profound.

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Speaker 1: It's not a cozy retreat, not at all.

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Speaker 2: But his choice of residence in this remote town is

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where the psychological anomaly truly takes root. He rents a

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commercial space to set up his writing studio. That specific

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space had previously been occupied by a man named Tom Young.

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Speaker 1: Okay, here we go, and.

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Speaker 2: The critical detail in the town's history is that Tom

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Young had disappeared without a trace a year prior, having

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simply walked out the door with his dog and vanished

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into the mountains.

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Speaker 1: Here's where it gets really interesting. Reinhart doesn't just learn

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about this local mystery. He becomes utterly, unhealthily consumed by it.

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Speaker 2: Obsessed.

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Speaker 1: Really, he finds the story of Tom Young fascinating to

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the point of outright obsession. He starts digging into Tom's life,

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talking to locals, piecing together the man's final days. He

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goes so far as to make Tom Young the central

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character in the manuscript of his.

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Speaker 2: Novel, blurring the lines between reality and fiction.

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Speaker 1: He is literally fictionalizing the ghost of the man whose

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physical space he is inhabiting. He's stepping into a dead

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man's shoes.

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Speaker 2: And then the narrative takes a dark, concrete turn. Not

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long after Reinhart settles into this obsessive routine, Tom Young's

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physical remains, along with the remains of his dog, are

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discovered by hunters in the rugged terrain near town.

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Speaker 1: Such a grim discovery.

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Speaker 2: The coroner's report reveals a grim truth. Tom Young had

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been shot in the head, ruled a suicide.

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Speaker 1: You would think that grim, visceral reality would act as

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a massive wake up call. He really would that the

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sudden discovery of a rotting corpse would shake Reinhard out

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of his romanticized writers of session, remind him of his

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family in Chicago, and send him packing. But the exact

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opposite happens.

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Speaker 2: It seems to lock him into the narrative even deeper.

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Speaker 1: On August seventh, nineteen eighty eight, which just so happens

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to be the exact day after a town memorial service,

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was held for Tom Young. Reinehart tells some acquaintances he

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is going to hike up Pendleton Mountain.

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Speaker 2: We must critically analyze his preparation for this hike, or

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rather the alarming lack thereof, because.

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Speaker 1: It's basically non existent.

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Speaker 2: Pendleton Mountain is an unforgiving peak, rising well above eleven

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thousand feet. Reinehart set out wearing light clothing jeans and

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a flannel shirt. He took no provisions for an overnight trip,

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no specialized gear for the unpredictable high altitude weather, and

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no survival equipment.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't dressed for at all.

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Speaker 2: This is highly abnormal for a hike of that magnitude. Furthermore,

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he initiated this ascent at dusk, when temperatures in the

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Rockies plummet rapidly and visibility disappears.

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Speaker 1: It's basically a recipe for death, and true to that

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grim recipe, he never came back. Rescue teams, hundreds of

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local volunteers and trained mountaineers searched the treacherous slopes of

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Pendleton Mountain.

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Speaker 2: For weeks, a huge effort.

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Speaker 1: They utilized helicopters and search dogs. They found absolutely nothing.

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No body, no clothing, no sign of a camp, but

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begs the question did he want to become his subject

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dark thought? It feels like an extreme form of method

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acting or method writing that spiraled into a fatal psychological break.

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Speaker 2: This raises an important question about the psychological contagion of tragedy.

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Does immersing oneself entirely in another man's dark, unresolved mystery

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compromise your own fundamental survival instincts.

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Speaker 1: It really seems like it did.

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Speaker 2: Hiking a massive peak at dusk wearing light clothing immediately

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following a memorial service for a man whose tragic life

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you've been obsessively chronicling, it heavily suggests the mind that

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has completely blurred the boundary between observer and participant. The

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environment didn't randomly claim him, His psychological state led him

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directly into the environment's jaws.

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Speaker 1: It's a tragic echoing. A man disappears while writing a

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book about another man who disappeared in the exact same place.

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But when we talk about minds that operate on a

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totally different, almost incomprehensible wavelength, we have to look at

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the archive of Granger Tailor from nineteen eighty. This one

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is wildly different.

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Speaker 2: The Vancouver Island case Granger. Taylor's psychological profile is that

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of an unconventional savant.

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Speaker 1: But true genius, but outside the lines.

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Speaker 2: He dropped out of formal schooling early, finding the rigid

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pace of the classroom too slow for his rapidly processing brain.

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But he wasn't idol. He possessed a genuine, almost miraculous

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mechanical genius.

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Speaker 1: What kind of stuff was he building?

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Speaker 2: He was famous in his community for taking completely ruined,

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rusted out, discarded airplanes, tractors, and bulldozers, dragging them back

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to his property and flawlessly rebuilding them from scratch without blueprints.

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He intuitively understood complex physics and engineering.

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Speaker 1: He was the guy who could fix literally anything. But

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in his late twenties, his brilliant mind started looking upward,

480
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passed carburetors and engines into the cosmos.

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Speaker 2: The extraterrestrial focus.

482
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Speaker 1: He became deeply, obsessively fascinated with space travel and the

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concept of extraterrestrial intelligence. And because he was a mechanical savant,

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he didn't just read library books about it. He built

485
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a massive, full size replica of a flying saucer out

486
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of two satellite dishes right in his backyard, outfitting it

487
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with a couch, a television, and a wood stove.

488
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Speaker 2: It was essentially his living room.

489
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Speaker 1: He started spending all his time in this saucer. He

490
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began telling people in his community that he was actively

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receiving telepathic messages from aliens.

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Speaker 2: The climax of this archive occurs during a severe howling

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storm in November of nineteen eighty. Taylor leaves a handwritten

494
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note for his parents. The phrasing of the note is

495
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explicit and calm.

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Speaker 1: What did he say?

497
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Speaker 2: It states that he is leaving to board an alien

498
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spacecraft and that he will be embarking on a forty

499
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two month journey to travel through the Solar System. He

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left behind his accumulated money in his room, abandoned his

501
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personal belongings into his brightly painted debts and pickup truck,

502
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and drove out into the teeth of the storm.

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Speaker 1: He completely vanished. And let's just ground ourselves in reality

504
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for a second. Here a genius with a hyperactive mind

505
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drops out of society, spends his days in a homemade saucer,

506
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claims he's talking to aliens via telepathy, leaves a bizarre

507
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farewell note, abandons his cash, and drives into a massive storm.

508
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Speaker 2: Decades later, unconfirmed bone fragments and twisted pieces of his

509
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debts and truck are found miles away in a remote

510
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logging area.

511
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Speaker 1: Doesn't this just sound like the classic agonizing trajectory of

512
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a profound mental health crisis, likely severe schizophrenia, ending in

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a tragic suicide.

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Speaker 2: From a purely clinical standpoint, it is entirely plausible, and,

515
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as we established, our mandate is impartiality, we must be

516
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exceptionally careful not to romanticize what could very well be

517
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a severe, untreated psychological breakdown.

518
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Speaker 1: Right, we don't want to glorify mental illness.

519
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Speaker 2: The society frequently struggles to properly categorize, support or e

520
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even recognized minds that are undeniably gifted but profoundly troubled.

521
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The mad genius trope is a dangerous oversimplification. However, as

522
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investigators of the facts, we must also report the physical

523
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anomalies recorded at the site where his truck was eventually discovered.

524
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Speaker 1: The blast radius precisely.

525
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Speaker 2: The mechanical condition of the dats and truck fragments did

526
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not indicate a standard kinetic vehicular collision.

527
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Speaker 1: It wasn't just a crash, No.

528
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Speaker 2: When a truck crashes into a tree at high speed.

529
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The metal crushes inward, it crumples upon itself, But the

530
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archival reports from the forestry workers who found the site

531
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describe a scene resembling a strange, localized explosion. The metal

532
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of the truck was blown outward, fragmented, and scattered over

533
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a wide area.

534
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Speaker 1: Now you could argue he had access to dynamite. It

535
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was a logging town. People used explosives to clear stumps

536
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all the time. He could have driven out there and

537
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intentionally detonated his own truck. It's a possibility, But the

538
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physical mechanics of the blast, combined with the fact that

539
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he was a mechanical genius who could have built a

540
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highly complex device, leaves just enough room for doubt, and

541
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that doubt is agonizing.

542
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Speaker 2: It creates an open loop.

543
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Speaker 1: Pop culture loves the sci fi ending. We desperately want

544
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him to be out there exploring the rings of Saturn,

545
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but the grim reality of those unconfirmed bone fragments left

546
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in the dirt leaves an incredibly uncomfortable, agonizing open loop

547
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for his family. They're trapped in an endless limbo between

548
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the grief of a suicide and the impossible wonder of

549
00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:27,680
his theories.

550
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Speaker 2: That ambiguity is the heaviest burden carried by the families

551
00:26:31,279 --> 00:26:34,880
in these archives, the lack of a definitive conclusion prevents

552
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,240
the grieving process from ever truly beginning. But if we

553
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are discussing the feeling of being swallowed whole, of leaving

554
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behind nothing but questions, we must pivot from the internal

555
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psychological voids of the human mind to the literal, massive

556
00:26:49,079 --> 00:26:50,960
physical voids of our planet.

557
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Speaker 1: The impossible physics of the sea and the sky. When

558
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you are operating out there, the sheer, unimaginable scale of

559
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the environment redefines human vulnerability. So look the sky. First

560
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,599
October nineteen seventy.

561
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Speaker 2: Eight, The Valentish Disappearance.

562
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Speaker 1: A twenty year old pilot named Frederick Valentich is flying

563
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,319
a small single engine Cessna one eighty two over a

564
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,240
notoriously treacherous stretch of water in Australia known as the

565
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Base Strait.

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Speaker 2: Valentisch was a relatively inexperienced pilot attempting to build his

567
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flight hours. During his flight, as the sun began to set,

568
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he initiated radio contact with Melbourne Air Traffic.

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Speaker 1: Control, and he had a very strange request.

570
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Speaker 2: He requested information regarding any other aircraft officially operating in

571
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his immediate airspace below five thousand feet. He reported visual

572
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,079
contact with an incredibly large, unknown object.

573
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Speaker 1: And his description over the radio is meticulously, terrifyingly detailed.

574
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He doesn't just say I see a UFO. He says

575
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it has four bright lights, it has a shiny metallic surface,

576
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and there is a distinct green light eliminating the top.

577
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Speaker 2: A very specific visual.

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Speaker 1: He reports that it is moving incredibly fast, that it

579
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is actively circling his cessna, and that it is maneuvering

580
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in ways that normal aerodynamic fixed wing aircraft simply cannot move, hovering, darting,

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and stopping on a dime. Melbourne ATC checks their radar.

582
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Speaker 2: Instruments and they see nothing.

583
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Speaker 1: They tell him there's absolutely nothing tracking in his sector.

584
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He's entirely alone up there.

585
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Speaker 2: Then the critical mechanical failures begin. Valentige reports his engine

586
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as starting to rough, idle and cut out. His final

587
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radio transmission to Melbourne is an open microphone that lasts

588
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for seventeen agonizing seconds.

589
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Speaker 1: And most of that seventeen seconds isn't him speaking. It

590
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is this bizarre, inexplicable, harsh, metallic scraping sound that to

591
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:40,000
this day audio analysts and aviation experts have never been

592
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able to identify or replicate.

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Speaker 2: It's a chilling piece of audio.

594
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Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like radio static. It sounds like metal

595
00:28:46,519 --> 00:28:50,079
tearing against metal. His absolute final panic sentence on the radio,

596
00:28:50,359 --> 00:28:53,279
delivered just before the microphone cuts out, is it's above

597
00:28:53,359 --> 00:28:54,960
me and it's not an aircraft.

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Speaker 2: Following that catastrophic transmission, emergency search and rescue protocols were

599
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immediately activated. Authorities deployed aircraft and ships to scour thousands

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of square miles of the bas straight ocean surface.

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Speaker 1: But let's look at the skeptical view here.

602
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Speaker 2: Now we must examine the prevailing skeptical theory, the one

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most often cited by aviation safety boards to rationalize the event.

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The theory suggests that Valentich, lacking instrument flying experience, simply

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became spatially disoriented in the fading.

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Speaker 1: Light the graveyard spiral exactly.

607
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Speaker 2: This theory, known as the graveyard spiral, suggests he accidentally

608
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inverted his aircraft, flew completely upside down, and was literally

609
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,079
looking down at the water, mistaking the reflection of his

610
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,960
own planes lights on the ocean's surface For a craft

611
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,480
hovering above him before finally crashing at high speed into

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the sea.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's break down the mechanics of that theory, because

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it has massive holes. First, how does a disorientation theory

615
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,200
account for the seventeen second metallic scraping noise transmitted over

616
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the VHF radio before the impact.

617
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 2: It really doesn't.

618
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,079
Speaker 1: Second, and more importantly, let's look at the Sessina one

619
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one two engine. It utilizes a gravity fed carburetor system.

620
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If you fly that plane completely upside down for an

621
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extended period, the engine starves of fuel and sputters, which

622
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,640
matches his report of rough idling, But it doesn't explain

623
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,640
the visual of a massive metallic craft.

624
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,359
Speaker 2: And then there's the physics of the crash.

625
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Speaker 1: Itself, and finally, the impact physics. Water at high velocity

626
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,240
is incompressible. It hits like solid concrete. A plane doesn't

627
00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:31,079
just quietly slip beneath the waves intact, it shatters, It

628
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,680
violently disintegrates. When a plane crashes into the ocean, there's

629
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,680
always an oil.

630
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Speaker 2: Slick, always debris.

631
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Speaker 1: There are always floating seat cushions, life jackets, or pulverized fiberglass. Yet,

632
00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,240
despite a massive search there was zero debris found, an

633
00:30:45,359 --> 00:30:48,759
entire aircraft, a pilot, and the fuel that carried vanished

634
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into thin air.

635
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Speaker 2: It remains one of the most meticulously documented and fiercely

636
00:30:53,079 --> 00:30:56,680
debated aviation mysteries in the global archives, precisely because the

637
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,759
physical evidence of a high speed water impact is entirely absent.

638
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,480
But if the sky can swallow a machine without a trace,

639
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,440
the ocean below it is equally adept at leaving behind

640
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:08,640
terrifying unsolvable puzzles, Which brings us.

641
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:11,759
Speaker 1: To a maritime archive that genuinely gives me chills every

642
00:31:11,799 --> 00:31:15,200
single time I review the historical logs the Envy Joyita

643
00:31:15,359 --> 00:31:16,200
nineteen fifty five.

644
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: The vessel itself is the most important character in this

645
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,559
physical record. The Joyda was a seventy foot wooden ship

646
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,920
operating out of Samoa, primarily used for trading and passenger.

647
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 1: Transport, and it was built to survive anything.

648
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,799
Speaker 2: On this specific voyage, it was transporting twenty five people,

649
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:33,720
a mix of crew, passengers, and a government official. The

650
00:31:33,759 --> 00:31:36,839
crucial detail is that the ship was heavily modified and

651
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:41,920
specifically engineered with extreme safety redundancies that made it theoretically

652
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,759
practically unsinkable.

653
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:44,839
Speaker 1: How unsinkable.

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Speaker 2: The hull was packed with dense cork lining, and the

655
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:51,880
cargo holds contained exactly six hundred and forty empty galvanized

656
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:56,599
steel fuel drums, specifically placed to provide massive, fail safe buoyancy.

657
00:31:56,799 --> 00:31:59,279
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be a routine two day island

658
00:31:59,359 --> 00:32:03,000
hopping trip. It never arrives. A massive aerial and naval

659
00:32:03,039 --> 00:32:05,559
search by the Royal New Zealand Air Force yields nothing.

660
00:32:05,759 --> 00:32:08,920
The ocean is just empty. Then five entire weeks later,

661
00:32:09,119 --> 00:32:11,839
a merchant ship spots the Joyita drifting aimlessly in the

662
00:32:11,839 --> 00:32:15,359
open ocean, roughly six hundred miles, completely off its intended course,

663
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,640
still floating. The ship is in bad shape. It is

664
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tilted heavily to one side, partially submerged its superstructure damage,

665
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,480
but exactly as the engineers designed it, the cork and

666
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,759
the drums did their job. It is still floating.

667
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,799
Speaker 2: When maritime investigators eventually boarded the vessel and secured it,

668
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they documented a scene of absolute chilling abandonment. The four

669
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tons of cargo were missing, the lifeboats and inflatable rafts

670
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:44,039
were entirely gone. But the details, but the granular forensic

671
00:32:44,119 --> 00:32:46,599
details of the scene are what elevate this from a

672
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,160
tragic shipwreck to a profound psychological mystery.

673
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Speaker 1: This is where the hair on my arm stands up.

674
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Every single electrical clock on the ship had frozen at

675
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exactly ten point twenty five. The ship's VHF radio was

676
00:33:00,519 --> 00:33:04,839
physically tuned to the Universal Emergency Distress channel, indicating someone

677
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680
was desperately trying to call for help, Yet no receiving

678
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,160
station in the Pacific ever logged a signal from them.

679
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And the medical bag, and most hauntingly, on the main

680
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,200
deck exposed to the elements, investigators found a doctor's medical

681
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,480
bag lying open. Spread out around it were used, blood

682
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,160
soaked bandages and surgical tools.

683
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Speaker 2: To understand the sheer irrationality of this scene, we have

684
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to deeply analyze the psychology of marine panic and the

685
00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:28,519
biological functions of the Olympic system.

686
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Speaker 1: Why would they leave?

687
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Speaker 2: The cardinal, unshakable rule of survival at sea drilled into

688
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,000
every sailor is that you never ever abandon a floating vessel.

689
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You always step up into a lifeboat. Even a severely listing,

690
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:45,640
partially submerged seventy foot boat offers infinitely more protection from

691
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,480
the elements, sharks, and exposure and offers a vastly larger

692
00:33:49,599 --> 00:33:53,079
visual target for search planes than a tiny wooden lifeboat

693
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bobbing in the open ocean.

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Speaker 1: Imagine stepping onto this boat in your mind. It's dead quiet.

695
00:33:58,359 --> 00:34:01,240
The ocean is lapping against the tilled, water logged deck.

696
00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:05,240
The clocks are permanently frozen, locking the disaster to a

697
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:06,839
specific minute in time.

698
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Speaker 2: Frozen at ten point twenty.

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Speaker 1: Five bloody bandages are laid out like a horrific still life,

700
00:34:11,039 --> 00:34:13,440
telling a story of a severe injury and a desperate

701
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,320
attempt at first aid. It's a literal ghost ship. It

702
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,719
feels like walking into a room where someone stops speaking

703
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,320
mid sentence.

704
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Speaker 2: It defies all survival logic.

705
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 1: The ship, despite being heavily damaged, was perfectly fine to

706
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,360
hold them. It didn't sink. If those twenty five people

707
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had just stayed huddled on the wet, slanted deck, they

708
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,840
would have been found alive. What unseen, terrifying catalyst forces

709
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:39,199
twenty five rational humans, including an experience captain, to completely

710
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,360
override their most basic survival training, succumbed to blind panic

711
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:46,559
and step off an unsinkable ship into the abyss.

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Speaker 2: Whatever mechanical failure or psychological catalyst occurred at ten point

713
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twenty five, perhaps a sudden violent explosion in the engine

714
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room that convinced them the ship was going down rapidly,

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or a localized fire that forced them overboard. It resulted

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in the total loss of all twenty five souls. The

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lifeboats were never seen again. So tragic, But the sheer

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scale of the Pacific Ocean doesn't just hide things. It

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can also play cruel, impossible tricks with time and distance,

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as evidenced by our next archive from February of nineteen

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seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: The Sarah Joe. This is the case that breaks my

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understanding of biology and geography. Five men from Maui load

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up a small seventeen foot Boston whaler called the Sarah

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Joe and head out for a relaxing day of fishing,

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a standard day trip. The weather reports are totally clear

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when they launch, but without warning, a freak violent meteorological anomaly,

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A massive localized storm materializes out of nowhere and hammers

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the Hawaiian coast.

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Speaker 2: The United States Coast Guard responded with a massive, highly

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coordinated search grid covering over seventy thousand square miles of

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the turbulent Pacific Ocean. They utilize specialized aircraft, heavy cutters,

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and fleets of local volunteers over several exhaustive days, but

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they didn't find them. The search yielded absolutely zero trace

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of the vessel, debris, or the five men. Given the

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sheer ferocity of the storm and the small size of

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the open whaler, the official conclusion was standard for such

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tragic maritime events. The storm overwhelmed the craft, swamped the engine,

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and it sank rapidly with all hands lost.

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Speaker 1: For almost ten entire years, that was the grim legally

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accepted truth. The Famili's grieved. The files were closed until

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nineteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: And then everything changed.

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Speaker 1: A group of government biologists are out doing completely unrelated

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wildlife field work in the Marshall Islands. Now keep in

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mind the geography here. The Marshall Islands are more than

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two thousand miles away from Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Two thousand miles.

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Speaker 1: They are serving an incredibly remote, completely uninhabited barren coral

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atoll called Teyangi, And sitting right there on the pristine beach,

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bleached by the sun, is a wrecked fiberglass boat. They

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checked their registry numbers. It's the Sarah Joe.

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Speaker 2: The discovery of the vessel alone after a decade of

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exposure and a two thousand mile drift across the unfrig

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giving currents of the North Pacific Gyre is a monumental

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statistical anomaly.

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Speaker 1: It's a miracle it survived.

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Speaker 2: To survive that drift requires a miraculous confluence of weather

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and currents. But what the biologists found next elevates the

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case from a geographical anomaly into something entirely incomprehensible to

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the rational mind. The grave located nearby, dug into the

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hard coral sand of the uninhabited island, was a human grave.

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Speaker 1: Not a natural depression, a deliberately, painstakingly dug grave. Someone

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had taken the massive caloric time and effort to gather

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rocks and fashion the crude recognizable wooden cross to place

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at the head of it. Inside the grave where the

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skeletal remains of one of the five missing men, a

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man named Scott Mormon, and.

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Speaker 2: The details of the burial are just.

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Speaker 1: But it's the forensic detail inside the grave that completely

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shatters logic. Placed incredibly neatly on top of Scott Mormon's bones,

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directly over his remains, was a perfectly stacked pile of

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small blank pieces of paper interleaved with small squares of aluminium.

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Speaker 2: The presence of this grave introduces an impossible logical paradox

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that defies biological reality. The Tawangia Hall was strictly uninhabited.

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It had no fresh water and no indigenous population.

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Speaker 1: So nobody was there to help him.

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Speaker 2: If Scott Mormon miraculously survived a brutal two thousand mile

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drift across the Pacific, battling scurvy, severe dehydration, starvation, and

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exposure over months or years, the physical realities of his

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degraded biological state dictate that he could not have possibly

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possessed the strength to dig his own grave in hard coral,

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bury his own body, and erect a cross above himself.

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Speaker 1: So we're left staring at a wall of absolute bewilderment.

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Scott was already dead when the boat washed ashore. That

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means at least one of his four friends had to

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have survived the agonizing journey with him to dig that grave.

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But if they survived, But if one of them survived

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long enough to reach land and bury him, where did

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that survivor go. It's a tiny speck of an island

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with no food, no water, and no people. There were

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no other bones found anywhere on the atoll, And why,

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in the middle of this desperate, agonizing fight for survival,

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dying of thirst on a blazing rock, would that surviving

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friend take the time to neatly stack blank squares of

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paper on his friend's bones.

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Speaker 2: The blank papers represent a deeply profound, almost heartbreaking psychological artifact.

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From an analytical and anthropological standpoint, it speaks to a fundamental,

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agonizing human need for ritual and order in the face

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of chaos, sad in the face of total bleak isolation,

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cognitive dissonance, and impending inevitable death. Whoever buried Scott Mormon

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clung desperately to the concept of ceremony. The papers, though blank,

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were a deliberate humanizing act. It was an attempt to

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impose meaning and dignitor upon a situation that was utterly

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indifferent and meaningless.

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Speaker 1: It's just devastating to think about the mindset of the

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person placing those papers. But as we move out of

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the vast, uncontrollable oceans, we have to look at our

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final archival file. In all the cases we've covered today,

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from college students walking down trails to fishermen, cotton storms.

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We are talking about normal, everyday people who were completely

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overpowered by massive elements sheer bad luck or field.

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Speaker 2: Rooms, everyday vulnerabilities.

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Speaker 1: But what happens when the person who vanishes isn't an amateur?

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What happens when the victim is an elite, highly trained

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expert in survival, espionage and evasion.

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Speaker 2: It entirely recontextualizes the parameters of a disappearance. The baseline

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assumptions of law enforcement are completely inverted. We are moving

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into the complex domain of the phantom professional.

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Speaker 1: The Archive of Jim Thompson nineteen sixty seven. Jim Thompson

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was the living legend in his own time. He was

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an incredibly wealthy American businessman who single handily brought the

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Thai silk industry back to global prominence, employing thousands of people.

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A very powerful man, he was a socialite, a collector

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of antiquities. But before he was the silk King, he

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was a highly trained intelligence operative. He had served with

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the OSS, the precursor to the CIA, and had spent

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years deep in the jungles of Southeast Asia executing clandestine's

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spy work, organizing guerrilla forces, and mastering survival tactics.

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Speaker 2: He was intimately professionally familiar with the terrain, the culture,

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the political undercurrents, and the raw survival mechanics of the region.

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During the Easter Sunday weekend in nineteen sixty seven, Thompson

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was vacationing with friends in the Cameron Highlands of Malaysia,

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staying at an isolated resort residence known as the Moonlight Bungalow.

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Speaker 1: After church services, he tells his friends he's going to

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step out for a quick casual afternoon stroll down the

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trail into the nearby jungle. He didn't take a coat,

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he didn't take his necessary medication. He didn't even take

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his cigarettes.

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Speaker 2: Because he wasn't planning on being gone long.

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Speaker 1: He knew the area well, he was in excellent physical

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shape for a man of sixty one. He liked being outdoors,

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and he simply never returned to the bungalow.

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Speaker 2: The Malaysian government, recognizing the geopolitical weight of his disappearance,

845
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organized the single largest, most intensive search operation in the

846
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nation's history. Over five hundred personnel, including military, police, soldiers

847
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and local volunteers, spent ALLAE eleven continuous days scouring the

848
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jungle grid, and.

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Speaker 1: These weren't just random volunteers.

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Speaker 2: Crucially, this search party did not just consist of men

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stomping through the brush. It included some of the most

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elite experienced indigenous trackers in the world, the orong Asli.

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These are men whose entire culture revolves around reading the jungle.

854
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They track by noticing a single disturbed drop of dew

855
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on a leaf, a microscopic snap twig, or the disturbed

856
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scent profile of the soil.

857
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Speaker 1: And let's clarify the environment, The Cameron Highlands aren't the impenetrable,

858
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uncharted deep Amazon. The jungle in that specific resort area

859
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is highly manageable. It is relatively contained, crisscrossed with known trail.

860
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Speaker 2: Right it's a tourist area relatively speaking.

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Speaker 1: This guy isn't an amateur hiker in sneakers who wandered

862
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off the path in a panic and ran blindly into

863
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a swamp. He has ex intelligence for indigenous trackers of

864
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that elite caliber to spend almost two weeks meticulously searching

865
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a highly manageable grid and find absolutely nothing. Not a

866
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broken branch, not a dropped handkerchief, not a single scraped rock,

867
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not a thread of his clothing, it is mind boggling.

868
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It is as if James Bond walked out the front

869
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door for a casual stroll and literally dissolved into the

870
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human air.

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Speaker 2: When you rigorously analyze the Thompson archive, you are presented

872
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with two fiercely competing narratives, both shaped by his background.

873
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The first is the mundane environmental theory. Despite his elite training,

874
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he suffered a sudden medical emergency a heart attack, or

875
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he fell into an undiscovered limestone crevasse or an old

876
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animal trap that perfectly immediately concealed his remains from the trackers.

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Speaker 1: The jungle merely got lucky, exactly.

878
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Speaker 2: And the second narrative is purely cinematic.

879
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Speaker 1: Espionage, which people love to speculate about.

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Speaker 2: Indeed, the cinematic theory posits that because of his extensive

881
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oss intelligence background, his deep political connections, and his immense wealth,

882
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Thompson possessed the specific, rare skill set required to orchestrate

883
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his own flawless disappearance. Some theorists suggest he was reactivatd

884
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for a covert intelligence operation regarding the escalating conflict in Vietnam,

885
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or that he intentionally vanished to escape a personal or

886
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financial crisis. Utilizing anti tracking techniques like walking backward through

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streams to evade the indigenous trackers, And.

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Speaker 1: What do the facts say?

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Speaker 2: Remaining strictly impartial, we can easily see why the total

890
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baffling lack of any physical evidence heavily fuels the espionage theories.

891
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When elite trackers find absolutely nothing, human nature naturally assumes

892
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the prey was a ghost or an operative.

893
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Speaker 1: It really highlights how a person's resume completely distorts the

894
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lens through which we view a mystery. If an everyday

895
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tourist vanishes on that trail, the police assume it's a

896
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tragic accident of nature. When an x BI millionaire vanishes

897
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without a trace, leaving the best trackers in the world

898
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scratching their heads, it immediately becomes a massive international conspiracy.

899
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Speaker 2: The victim's professional background alters the entire baseline assumption of

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the investigation.

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Speaker 1: Looking back at this entire massive exploration, from the unblinking

902
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mathematical security care of the ugly Tuna Saluna to the

903
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two thousand miles of open, violent ocean that carry the

904
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Sarah Joe, the overarching theme that ties all these incredibly

905
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diverse archives together is our desperate biological human need for closure.

906
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Speaker 2: We want answers.

907
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Speaker 1: We are psychologically wired to need narratives that make sense.

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We need a definitive beginning, a logical middle, and a

909
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concrete end. But these stories, they are all just middles.

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They are sentences abruptly, violently cut off before the final punctuation.

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Speaker 2: Which brings us to perhaps the most terrifying psychological concept

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of all. The scientific and psychological term for this specific

913
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:40,079
type of suffering is ambiguous loss. Coined by research or

914
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a Pauline Boss. It describes a loss that occurs without

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00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,880
a significant likelihood of reaching emotional closure or a clear

916
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understanding of what happened.

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Speaker 1: Ambiguous loss that's powerful.

918
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Speaker 2: It is considered the most stressful type of grief because

919
00:45:52,599 --> 00:45:55,800
it denies the brain the finality of a body, a

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00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,599
funeral or concrete truth. The brain is caught in an

921
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endless sloop of hope and despair. Perhaps the true horror

922
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of these archives isn't the presence of extraterrestrials, supernatural anomalies,

923
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or government spies. It is the realization that the universe

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is chaotic enough and fundamentally indifferent enough to allow a

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human being to simply slip through the cracks of reality

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without making a single sound, leaving the people who love

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them trapped forever, an ambiguous loss.

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Speaker 1: That is a staggering thought. To end on the idea

929
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that the mystery itself is a full of psychological torture,

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we want to know exactly where you stand on all

931
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of this, on the science and psychology and the impossibilities

932
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:34,360
we've discussed today.

933
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Speaker 2: Yes, what do you think.

934
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Speaker 1: Which of these vanished individuals and which specific mechanism of

935
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,079
their disappearance keeps you awake at night? Do you think

936
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the human mind is capable of overwriting our survival instincts?

937
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Or do you think the physical environment simply hides its

938
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:51,719
secrets better than our technology can find them. Leave us

939
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,360
a comment and let us know your theories. And the

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00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,800
next time you're walking down a trail with a friend

941
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and you turn to look at a bird in the trees,

942
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,480
maybe don't look away for too long Until next time,

943
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keep pulling at the threads.