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Speaker 1: Welcome.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to the paranorm Peep Show on the Paranormal

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UK Radio Network and I'm your host, Neil Ward. Now

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today we have a slightly different show for you. On

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Saturday May the tenth, I ventured that to Reading to

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meet up with Ben Emmlyin Jones and also former guest

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Gary Robinson. We met up at Wetherspoons Pub in the

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heart of Reading in Berkshire in the UK and we

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discussed all manner of things, but of course we did

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come back to the woo subjects. So stay tuned for

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the Paranormal Peep Show live in Reading.

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Speaker 1: Oh Hi, it's us, It's Ben. Now you doing who? Well,

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yeah we are. We're in the Wetherspoons me, Gary and

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Neil and Lonafairn. Yep. We heart arrived a bit late,

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but we got here. In the end we're having an

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avenue chat, jumping from one musical tech talk with Gary

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to woo stuff with Ben, and I'm sure we're going

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to go right now through afternoon. Actually it's great when

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we were this is I'm never happy when we wogos

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get together and with socialized like this. You're Weddspoons where

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else and when we always assembly with our massive amounts

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of documents, have hardened proof and the evidence for everything

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that we're challenged, and this is it, you know, yeah,

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praus men, we'll do on case. Just the American boog

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for Maerking triple bird this much. She's got the same

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meal bow looks at least, yeah, it was in triple bow.

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What source do you want? Maybe a bit of catch

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up Ben would be great. You are American triple burn. Yeah,

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it's pretty Hello, it looks like it would kind of mini,

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but they are a triple Yeah, very good. I don't

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think that's a very healthy option, to be honest. But now, Haro,

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what happened to Ben's dying? He was going to be

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on some sort of uh yeah, he didn't. He didn't

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meant diet, Yeah, yeah, monkey sort of spiritual diet. He

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was telling me some this is the Christmas period is

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I guess the diets went out the window.

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Speaker 3: I just did a memory about being in San Antonio,

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Texas once and I got to this bar late at

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night and they said, sorry, the kitchens on the limited availability.

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Speaker 1: All we've got ish mini burgers burgers.

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Speaker 3: I think mini burgers sound schoons And when when the

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Burgers were the Liberys, they were larger than this cold spoons.

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Speaker 1: They normally better than.

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Speaker 3: That fancasise that was that was, that was many fool

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perside me for they Yeah, we have.

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Speaker 1: The streps and chip ships. Good pepper, that's maybe they're

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still that's great the two arts of coloring drag pepper,

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dge or pepper. I'm all right, there's not I got

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a Swiss roll for.

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Speaker 4: You.

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Speaker 1: Push them down the Eiger. Sorry, steps and chips ship.

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Speaker 3: But it is a bit of a so this is

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going to be a special paranormal peep shown.

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Speaker 1: So she's a woo wu social. I mean, you can't

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beat them around the world. We'll send the invoye to

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marinermal Uk Radio network. Yes, it's a business meeting. Bray,

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you've got to pay one mark.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think i'd see a couple of men

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in black over about it.

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Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, they were chips as well. Careful what

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you told me that?

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, so what I think we need to get

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see you on a bottle and this is.

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Speaker 1: Something anyway I was gonna sell you guys something you

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might be familiar with. This Ben Mena gave me a

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book which was on Christmas. But it's an old books

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you found and she gave it to me recently, and

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there's a book about the moon and moon missions and

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things like that. So I took some photographs off some

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pages because normally you get all these pictures online, but

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these ones seem to be super sharp quality. And I

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actually found some pictures that I've looked at before. If

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I could find a buy ima, let me go back

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to all photos out of you'd be shots that are

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not very well distributed, that would maybe not coming frost before. Yeah,

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most people don't even see them. Here we go. So

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this is from the follow seventeen and I've seen this

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image before. Sorry, I've always seen this. You remember that

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I recognized this? Yeah, yeah, And I don't know what

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it is, but I'm gonna I've got a closer upper

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picture as well. There's two things. So there's this, which

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I thought, what the hell's that? And what is Yeah?

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like some sort of door. You could almost imagine a

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train door or a plane door or something like that.

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then and I upload this to chat GTP and it

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says it's definitely a rectangular structure of some sort, you

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know what was half buried. Then ah, is this the

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end of the set? Wall here? Straight lines that? Yeah, yeah,

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oh yeah, steedron and you've got a dividing line and

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he goes across said to another line.

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Speaker 3: And that that the bat there looks like it's got

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a different kind of focus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean it probably would have a different focus,

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but but I'm just thinking, so yeah, look, look structure

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there stopped a deadline down and then go across there,

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because that's how Stanley Kreue you to do it was

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he was a tweet am. But the cuebrick vines and

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so it's like having a wall there and there's a

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bit down there and a bit down there, the bit

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down there, and then but the background becomes less detailed,

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sort of green. That was the name that you gave

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to that technique. Because there's the main career, isn't there

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rear projection? Right, So the idea is that you would

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have a translucent screen and they looked the protagonists say

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that it's actually probably done on a projection screen made

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by three M who invented these reflective beads and they

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put them onto this screen in their thousands, and they

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reflected the light was projected from the projector of summer

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sort onto the screen, and when it's all correctly exposed,

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this would come up and show up. And they did

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it for Superman, this rear projections or the stuff, you know.

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someone's COO did use that in the Moon scenes see

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on them, yeah, two thousand and one. Yeah, so there's that.

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And then there was something some of the players. I

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can't remember. It was inspiction, but I've like, let me

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just find I don't know if I might not have

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it on there, but that was this one here that's

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a Russian Moonlander. Oh yes, since the duels they planned for. Yeah,

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it looks like a steamplunk, doesn't it. That's what they

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planned their own name pond of the NR Moon mission,

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which they never actually they did test it in orbit,

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but they never They apparently canceled for some reason. I mean,

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it's never been explaining something why they canceled their moon Issson.

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that's right one, but then they just sort of I said, oh,

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forget that there, We're just focus on lower th orbit,

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which seemed to me sounds a bit weird because it

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doubled up as a great washing machine. But I mean

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it's it's it is odd that they just sort of

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like canceled it, and so because they could have got

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their first which had been like a Patrick in terms

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of the face exploration kind of looks like the destroyers from.

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Speaker 3: Eight Walkers, and in the Clone Wars is one that

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looks exactly like that that walk I suppose they got

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their inspiration from that sort of thing I've always wondered about.

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Speaker 1: For instance, buzz Aldrin and like you go to earlier pits.

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isn't it you know that's him in nineteen sixty nine,

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but he's obviously you know, he was losing his hair then,

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but suddenly his hair grows back or I don't know,

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he's got a two pack. He does look like a

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Speaker 3: To that is, we would never know if they were

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of like, because he is unfortunate suffering from dementia, he's

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been letting slip a few things that he shouldn't. Definitely

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trying to retire, Yeah, but he should know if you should.

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Saxon has a lot of song about Roswell. Who's got

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Saxon Saxon? Yeah, I mean I won't have him out

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about it. And I didn't even know they were still going.

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they're good, have died of drug overs in Gonneea years ago,

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but they're still good. They did an international tour two

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years ago. I mean they're in their seventies a days like, Yeah,

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it's a really quite amusing scene and prancing around stage.

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long white hair, I mean they did so. And they

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got a song about Rosewell it's called It's called There's

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it like a couple of days ago, and I was

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really surprised because, like, I know who lives since I

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and Strangers in the Night it's like I've never I

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live thousands of days, some of years ago, and I

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were I never don't this is it. Look, I had

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no idea they were either still alive. Ohs were the Yes,

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you know, rock stars don't normally live that long. I say,

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drug overs and gone and stuff. I think they have

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liner changes and you know, I mean, you know the

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central core guy and the singer. There's there's Biff, the

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this and the Biff Boyford, and there's the old one

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our comedy's name. But they've been with it since in

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there literally fifty years, but there's been they've had some

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even he was going bored at the times. Oh no,

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aren't they. Yeah, let the headbang and the long hair.

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images your commony are then wow, there's something you know, like,

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for the picture to do it. Yeah, roswellt Daily News

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has he admitted to being into ufhos me. I'm not

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about eighteen. And then suddenly, oh, Saxon have got songing.

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Saxon from anyone younger than me? Once, what are you

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talking about? And I looked at I think there was

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old Bif Boy for the really old Biff boyfo doing

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this song and I thought wow, I thought, knowing they're

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still going they're singing about beings like this crikey. And

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he's like, yeah, Biff is like the he does all

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the combination and lyrics. I mean, he had the brains

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behind the band. I thought he must be like he

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must have heard about all that from Sheffield of you. Yeah,

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somewhere in the auth of England.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all celebrities are into the subjects, like Paul Sinclair

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on True prof He had Robbie Williams on Yeah, Robbie Willie,

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Speaker 1: And he said the other day he's kind of visiting

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the X week. See if you're some of your filming.

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had abduction experiences. Yeah really and yeah, and he went

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through a phase when he was going to all the

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conferences and things like that. He stopped when basically people

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were taking a piss out of him because the travelois

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really ripped him a bit horrible. They had a picture

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of him dressers like his whole farm with a cough

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cap and were like and like making out he's some

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wouldn't he, Because now they're doing Congress and yeah, these

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and it goes, it goes by the same time as mine.

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says his show, and it's like it's unfortunates only so

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many hours in the day, you know. Yeah, I mean,

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I Paul, Paul's a good guy. I've never met him,

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but it sounds like a good bloke.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 1: You go through all like the conferences you'll see him

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at like Awaken, at the White Car and he was

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at some he was at the Olm, the one they

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did in Manchester, the Master Awakening and the black Ball Awakening.

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Speaker 3: I remember the one where you went in disguise, the

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Why Mass and they did a Sunday episode saying something

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We've got to mention boys.

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Speaker 1: In Emlyn johnes Brad. I feel guilty. Actually did apologize

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to him after when I saw him again awake froming Master,

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because I'd say, look, Paul, I mean because I did

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to speak to him in my faith, he said, Ben

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I didn't know that was you. I really didn't know

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that was you, And I said it must have been

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pretty good. Then I bet.

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Speaker 6: Even you thought that you were taking a kiss out

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of them, but you thought you were going to get

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kicked out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there were a couple who actually thought I was aful.

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They thought I was like that. So the other guy

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who they didn't want in Russ Kellett. They thought I

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was Russ Kellett's because they thought it was Ross Kellett

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in disguise. And they followed me for a little one.

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I only did a number. Yeah it was it was

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not it was that it was Paul. There's a couple

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of other people that was on the field, thank you,

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And they followed me for was why I stayed in

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character when I was in my hotel room and after sleep,

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when I was like, when I was in my hotel room,

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the only place I could like take my disguise and

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was in my hotel room. And I only thought this

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when I got there, and I suddenly realized there's gonna

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be delegacy here staying I can't let anyone know why

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I'm in town because they'll work out it's me. I say,

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what's been doing it? He is banned from the conference, and

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he's in a town where of conferences where he's been

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banned from. Then you have the zoomer freak. There's the

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two gaukiastick. Yeah, I to pretend to be disabled.

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by the way, my own real method acting, and that

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really was going to tear streets on.

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Speaker 1: I went hard, like working on my look at how

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I'd speak, and like you could have clean hit. I mean,

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everyone said, why why is it? Why doesn't go this lengths?

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It's because I was banned from I just got so

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upset the Christmas Eve? Was it a band because I

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keep doing different things? Oh, we didn't ban you with

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sent you a ticket? I don't know. He literally said

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to me, I bought a ticket and then contacted me

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said why have you bought a ticket to my conference?

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I said, I want to do yeah, And then there

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was like a pause and he said, Ben, you know

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Sasha's going to be there, and Alison and and David,

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David jan at least people are going to be there.

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And now David Jones is yeah, exactly, feel free to

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record this and so everyone knows this anyway, and he said,

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I feel And he said, you don't know they're going

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to be there, don't you? And I says yeah, And

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then then I expect him to he didn't reply. But

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then then like a few hours later, I've got a

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message saying, Ben, I've returned your ticket. Myna'm and Afreid,

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I cannot go ask you not to attend. I can't

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believe the dude, order will be maintained if you're there.

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And I said, Tris, I'm not going to cause any trouble,

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and he's just unfortunately, you know, I don't want to

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take the risks, so could you please not attend? And

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I really that upset me because I've never been banned

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from the conference. It's not nice to fear our word gun. Yeah,

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because what a bit of I've I mean, if there's

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a if there is a criticism you could make of me,

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I suppose you could say that some people find me

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a little bit overbearing in other words, but this it's

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I get over enthusiastic, and I get I get a

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conference fever, as I call it, where I get still

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a bit wild and I get a little bit intense

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and getting people's faces. I've become a bit exuberant, too

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extra too extrovert, and some people find that intimidating, and

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not for any fault in my ear, but I mean,

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that's that is, that's the only real criticism you could

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make of me at a conference, and I've never been

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and that doesn't warrant to ban. Yeah, I mean, and

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you are at a conference, so you've got to get

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into the spirit. Yeah, and I do it. It goes

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to my head sometimes, But apart from that, you can't

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make any criticism my conduct. I've never ever been, I've

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never called, I've never given any course. I've been going

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to conferences. In two thousand and six, when I went

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to probe the first time, I've never in all that time,

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ever given anyone any cause of concern about my presence

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at a conference, having invited to speak at many of them,

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and I've spoken to many of them. So you were

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first probed in two thousand and six. I was pro

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deeply in the fact that I was kind of hooked

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from the moment I got there. I literally was. I

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never thought this is for me, and I've been to

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almost all the other ones since until a competence shutdown,

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and so yeah, so that was very it's very upsetting

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when I decided to. When the conference restarted after the

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lockdown and out of the Miss magazine too came along,

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I managed to get hold of a tickets. Never mind

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how but I'm asked to get hold a ticket from

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a third party. She'll say okay, and and I well,

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I can't look in there because I'll know it's me.

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And so I thought, i'm'd have to weary disguies, what

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sort of disky's gone away? And I was starting to

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work come up with the debut. During the scut I

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started thinking about how I would what would I need

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to look different? And I thought, I'm for povin which

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I had not like a chirt and tight. I'll need

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like a hat to cover my head because I knowed

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toe to shake my head because I face covering, which

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is very It's very easy to to use an excuse

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because this was just ap to COVID and a lot

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of people still wearing masks or so were you hadn't

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masked in't ago? And but what about the sunblind? I

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need something to cover my eyes because I think about recognition,

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like recognizing people is you? And I did wonder about this,

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but when you when you see someone your well, the

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way it works, your brain works is you see a

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few little markers about somebody, basic symbols, basic features of

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their face. And only when you see those does your

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brain like look into more detailed images of that particular person. Well,

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if you don't give the person the initial trigger for recognition,

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they don't. Still your brain does not look for the others.

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So I thought if I cover, if I do that,

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no one's going to know it's me. And if I cover,

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like if I discuss voice and I sort of talk

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like this. And also I pretended I was ill. I

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had a disability to cover up my gaze the worst

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powerful work, so no one want to look. I wouldn't

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look like how long is you? When I walk, my

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face was covered and the the I actually have gloves

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on as well, because I came up with this idea

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that I was sensitive to sunlight. I had a disease

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where I was says to say light. I thought, yeah,

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so I had had sun hat on all time, even

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indoor over his mess cover with the sticks and everything. Yeah,

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it was that tricky. Though it sounds an ad boiling over.

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I just put the camera down and I've walked into

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the hotel room with my disguise. I see he's in

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the video. It's in the video, and believe or not,

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I did get away with it. I did get away

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with it. I mean it's really odd because like no

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one said a word. But then I went home and

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uploaded the video, and then of course then the copes begin.

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Everyone is like covered everyone, everyone is like post on Facebook. Yeah, yeah,

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we knew it was Ben all along.

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Speaker 4: We decided saying, as well, you can sell the anty

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the video on the dage that you just breezed through.

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Speaker 1: Nobody, nobody's stared, and nobody even looked. Only the people

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who thought I was Russ Kellett and they fell with

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me around but honestly, but then, I mean, I didn't

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know who this people were. There's only handle there's only

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two or three of them thought I might be rus

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Kellett and I wasn't. These banned as well. But you

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know what's really really odd is that some and that's

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if they knew it was me, Why did no one

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say a single word on social media until oh, there's

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the video. Ben's here, but we're not We're gonna let

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him get away with a benzjit. No one said a

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single word agent, and I know he.

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Speaker 3: Didn't say anything until a troof proof is on until

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by video and still my video was uploaded and then

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they that's when it all came out.

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Speaker 1: And also the organizer said, Ben, but I did send

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you a ticket look because yeah, and like yeah, well

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it showed me like a document that looked like like

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an in an infantry where my name appeared. I thought

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you could, like anyone can make that up.

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Speaker 3: It was all a coke because you had a guy

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in your comments who was surressing you for about.

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Speaker 1: A year and a half.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go asking you'd a prove whether you were riot

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or presure somebody this is I had a little of

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an issue that guy had a bit of a problem.

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Speaker 1: I ended up going a block him. He was just

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he was just a real He was like a headcase.

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I mean totally like he was just coming old something

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and I'm just comming he wouldn't talk anything else that's there.

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And still want to discuss this anymore. We start getting

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an English by block too, when really it really.

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Speaker 4: Threw us entering the words of the comfort works because

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they call it off add before and for every so

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and but even when a lot of course of the

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entire comments, reply videos.

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Speaker 1: We joined through his long comments and like h and

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in the end I just had to say, look, I'm

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not going to appoint this issue anymore secty. He started

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abusing his side blogs. Yeah, he did start to sound unheanish, Yeah,

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season or used and it's really funny enough like and

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since then, Chris, because like the last one we did,

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Chris sent me and he actually send me, like Flyers said,

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you want to go alongest to me, Ben even comes

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to yourself this tight.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, people out there right now and using the eras

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and religion things away and the people I've gotten read

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planet TV channel on YouTube or upload the classics, just

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the UFO star and it started to get quite a

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lot of traffic. But what you notice is the more traffic,

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the more comments I get from empty channels, and those

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comments are normally aimed at true and they all in

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the rosiest or are you nons or something equally form.

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Speaker 1: That is great. I thought it was a neat. It's

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part of the bouse I get these ere from as well.

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When I go to the child page, it's exactly saying

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complete blank channel, no uploads, no favor yet, no no avatar,

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nothing is just true someone. Yeah, someone's literally and we

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look at the date when the channel was established, shoes

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like will be four. Someone's literally created the YouTube channel.

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Probably someone I've already bought. Yeah, she ues a putty

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with the Droig trolls who just just to say horrible

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things about somebody or me usually if they say horrible

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things about me and stuff on this. So yeah, I

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mean we don't take any thing seriously. The drugs are

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different than drouids. I can spot them, you see the

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droid because they're very bad actors and I know them

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are I mean there's that. I know this's more than

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one person because sometimes they're their spellings better than others.

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Where did the word drugs come from? All these cool Yeah,

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it's a very sci fiing. You know who you're talking about?

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D One, Well, the lead the ringings could Julian And

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I know who he is because I met him. I

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actually met him and he was remember the David eye

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for him and he actually met him in two thousand

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and seven in the David I Forum meet up. Sounds

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no fact he was. He's creepy. It'll go for Julia. Yeah,

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and then but I mean he's why I do they

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do this I don't know why they've lasted on some people.

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Well I've done nothing to provoke us, but as him

470
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and his mates, and there's a loan not as at

471
00:23:25,599 --> 00:23:27,400
least four of them, I know. With the IP addresses

472
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,599
they used and the fact that they they're always seed

473
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,519
you online, I think they're live to fix some of

474
00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:34,759
them in other countries because in different times though it

475
00:23:34,759 --> 00:23:36,200
is because they all seen to be one of them

476
00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:38,680
is unless, of course she can get these v IP

477
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,200
proxy things, can't you. It gives the impression you're in

478
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,880
I can't. Yeah, they're going to use it in there,

479
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,079
but it always online. They never seemed to sleep. I mean,

480
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,839
I always get to replise very quickly when when they

481
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,039
was to sneak into my forum and now I mean,

482
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,440
but then he he was exposed because I know because

483
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,640
he had another proxy called Tiswart. It was this was

484
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,240
like a character who was like an old Indian lady

485
00:24:05,279 --> 00:24:08,359
who I who loved cats. And I found out that

486
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,559
Julian was tis Was to see and I realized that

487
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,359
they were through the IP addresses. I realized that ti

488
00:24:13,599 --> 00:24:15,559
Was was posting from the same IP as Drake, and

489
00:24:15,599 --> 00:24:17,960
I realized that that Droid and chis was was the

490
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,920
same person. But the Droid thing I don't know. I

491
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,319
think it may come from John Drake because he was

492
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,359
one of his proxies used on the David Ike form.

493
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,599
He's to do the same thing on David eichfl used

494
00:24:26,599 --> 00:24:28,680
to keep joining and mouthing off and then got banned.

495
00:24:29,039 --> 00:24:34,599
He used to come back with another username. But that

496
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,640
John Drake is supposedly one of the names or the

497
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,119
I don't know why. They are just hands of the prisoner.

498
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,039
I want to know who number six is mister McGowan's character,

499
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,400
and apparently there's some theory, and I don't know how

500
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:51,119
they came at. His name's John Drake, and that came

501
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,519
that was short to Drake, and eventually it was it

502
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:57,599
was like corrupting to Draike and I just known it

503
00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:58,839
was team Droike ever since.

504
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,839
Speaker 7: Certainly the horrible word it paints the picture of bargain

505
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,559
something new dodgy ool look here from that's exactly.

506
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,039
Speaker 1: But you went to meet him for a fight in

507
00:25:08,279 --> 00:25:10,880
plot food doesn't know them to. I just got fed

508
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,160
up with him one day and I said, look this

509
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,880
because because he came back he joined the forum of

510
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,279
the user name that's the news and I can't remember.

511
00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,759
I've actually preserved it. I preserve the thread. But it

512
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:24,279
was like the avatar was like Charles Bronson, the not

513
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,079
the actor, but the prisoner that no one could control,

514
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,640
the guy that the guy that there was. He was

515
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:32,880
this big ball guy was so violent they put him

516
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,119
in solitary con finals. Yeah, yeah, it was a good

517
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,920
it was. He seems like a character. I mean, he

518
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,359
was an artist and everything. You know, she had this

519
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,200
sensitive side to himself. Anyone who went near him and

520
00:25:42,279 --> 00:25:45,359
just punched him in the face. But then they started

521
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,440
starting mouth look at under this and in the hen

522
00:25:48,519 --> 00:25:50,720
In the end, I just said to him, do you

523
00:25:50,759 --> 00:25:53,759
want to meet up this? I can't do this anymore.

524
00:25:53,839 --> 00:25:55,799
Let's just meet up and lad a little discussion about

525
00:25:55,839 --> 00:25:58,319
this man to man and face to face. And this

526
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,359
friend went on and I was like challenging and kept

527
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,960
pushing it and he's making excuses. In the end, I

528
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,839
cornered him and he agreed to meet me. And what

529
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,839
off of this location in one book, I think that

530
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,400
they were there and germing, but him, you know, that's this.

531
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,559
Otherwise he would have he would have glowed in a

532
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:15,960
I don't think so. Otherwise he would have probably taken

533
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,920
photographs and said, oh, there's Benny. He's got a pastic

534
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:23,839
saw them a cricket helmet on reguard be there. Yeah,

535
00:26:23,839 --> 00:26:26,039
I had a box on as well, because I just thought,

536
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,079
what if he does turn. I mean also quite like

537
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,839
a cricket al little because there's a sense of fair

538
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,440
play and things like that. And the plastic sword is

539
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,400
kind of symbolic of like, it's only a plastic one.

540
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:38,359
It was a toy sword. This symbolical conflict about about

541
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,200
dealing with conflict on a spiritual level.

542
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 4: You know.

543
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,319
Speaker 1: The sword is often symbolic. It's like arrow cards you're

544
00:26:43,319 --> 00:26:46,039
taking around me. It's kind of it's kind of yeah,

545
00:26:47,599 --> 00:26:50,960
it's it's a masculine symbol of the chivalry and on

546
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,279
things like that, and and the rifle, use of forge

547
00:26:54,319 --> 00:26:55,480
and things like that. And I thought I'd take the

548
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,640
plastic sword in me in my bag. And then of

549
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,680
course he never turned up, and then I made a

550
00:27:01,759 --> 00:27:05,359
matter into it is too. All those years they were

551
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,319
mouthing off bell line and they didn't show up to

552
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,960
when it came to a real life confrontation. They shrink

553
00:27:10,039 --> 00:27:13,920
like that's typical of trolls that you chose any of

554
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:15,559
your trolls to meet up and they won't shown up.

555
00:27:15,559 --> 00:27:17,279
They don't have any yet and they have Jack which

556
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,480
you did a troll conference. I thought you should one,

557
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,920
but it's it's difficult. But well we'll not want to

558
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:26,319
turn up. That's a problem. Yeah, but it's guys, if

559
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:30,559
this is a man, just say, won't you stand the

560
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,319
day you Jones come out in front of me and

561
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:33,559
it's like, why don't you stand in front of you

562
00:27:33,599 --> 00:27:36,559
say this to my face? I mean I always say

563
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,519
to them, you know, I make no secret of where

564
00:27:39,559 --> 00:27:42,640
I'm going to be in the future. Maybe that there's

565
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,880
no if you could have called this if you like,

566
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,559
you can keep you can put this in if you want. Yeah,

567
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,880
maybe they only enjoy doing it online.

568
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 3: And if they maybe if they met your rural life,

569
00:27:51,319 --> 00:27:53,000
not only would they not have a problem with you,

570
00:27:53,079 --> 00:27:53,920
but there'd be no fun.

571
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:55,039
Speaker 1: So that I will hold on me here.

572
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:58,319
Speaker 3: This isn't the situation that I enjoy I enjoyed being

573
00:27:58,519 --> 00:27:59,880
by minor e slagging.

574
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm not quite evering there. They certainly wouldn't have the

575
00:28:02,319 --> 00:28:04,359
guts to look me in the eye, stand in front

576
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:05,599
of me and say the things they said to me

577
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,519
and I are horrible things they said to me online.

578
00:28:07,759 --> 00:28:09,200
Things I like to call the police at one point

579
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,799
because they were literally excusing me. They were interally, they

580
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:15,240
were they were pretty as criminal defamation. At some point.

581
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,839
You were saying I was neglecting my daughter and stuff

582
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:19,640
like this. You know, horrible things they said about me,

583
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,799
and and I was like, yeah, they were. They just

584
00:28:23,839 --> 00:28:25,759
don't but I did say some you know, you know

585
00:28:25,799 --> 00:28:27,200
where I'm going to be. I don't if I don't

586
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,079
make secrets about my movements. I don't have bodyguards. I'm

587
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,119
not Stephen Greer. I don't have these ego guards. Yeas

588
00:28:34,759 --> 00:28:37,079
you know I will. I say, I'm going to be

589
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,960
at the pro conference on this date. I'm going I

590
00:28:39,079 --> 00:28:41,079
tell people I'm going to be at this. This are

591
00:28:41,079 --> 00:28:42,799
going to a bit lapis, I'm gonna I'm going to

592
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:44,279
go to this conference. I'm going to go to the

593
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,799
Waking Away Conference. If anyone wants to join you, I'll

594
00:28:46,799 --> 00:28:48,200
see you there. And I said you could come and

595
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,200
you could come and say any things to their face

596
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:52,240
any time at any of these events. So if they

597
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:55,680
wanted to pump shop by now they yeah, but they

598
00:28:55,759 --> 00:28:59,200
don't enjoy even Sue disst them do it and even yeah,

599
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:03,119
maybe they're like some of them are opening. I mean

600
00:29:03,119 --> 00:29:06,119
I know that like even after Watford, Droik has been

601
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,119
like DROI was the one who, like Droi, he did

602
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,839
this offense archaeology thing on him with thee Robins. He well,

603
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,559
he contacted. Peter said, I've been contacted by having contacted

604
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,400
by this man called called Bob Brown. I knew that's

605
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,319
one of his aliases, right, and and he showed me

606
00:29:25,359 --> 00:29:27,599
he's no what that was anius Well only when he

607
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:31,000
read my article and sort of he felt for this. Yeah,

608
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,119
well it's what they made Peter aware of something true.

609
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,480
But it was like it was like offense archaology. They

610
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:41,160
pointed to a around a lot of unwise posts that

611
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,880
I put in When was it round in two thousand

612
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,960
and eight on the only down so four but literally

613
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,680
two thousand eight, we're talking like when this happened. Over

614
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,799
ten years well over ten years after this happened, and

615
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,920
it was like where I was. I'd watched this thing

616
00:29:58,039 --> 00:30:02,079
called and called the Holocaust, which was soon the extermination

617
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:05,480
is used by the Nazis, and I've just spoken about it.

618
00:30:05,519 --> 00:30:07,599
I hadn't said, I don't I didn't say I endorsed

619
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,079
these ideas. I just spoken about it. And this was

620
00:30:10,119 --> 00:30:12,359
like and he said, look, Ben wrote this in two

621
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,720
thousand and eight, regardless of what you say about that subject,

622
00:30:15,759 --> 00:30:18,640
that they will use it. Yeah, and that's the only

623
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640
time I've ever mentioned it. And I don't I mean,

624
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,599
I'm not. I don't believe that. I mean, obviously it

625
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,519
needs to be investigated, but I mean the political situation

626
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,640
is so intense you can't actually people can go to

627
00:30:29,759 --> 00:30:33,640
jail if you speak. Yeah. But but Peter, he sent

628
00:30:33,799 --> 00:30:36,119
he shared this with Peter and said, look, you think

629
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,799
Ben doesn't hate Jew's here's the proof. He put this

630
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,640
one post on the damn Sob forum in two thousand

631
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,839
and eight. Peter is a Jewish guy. Yeah, and I've

632
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:47,799
never attacked him on that reason. I don't care what

633
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:48,799
Adam kV is Jewish.

634
00:30:48,839 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: I not.

635
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: I don't give a daph But then then, but he'd

636
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,640
done this. This is a this is called a fence archaeology.

637
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:56,599
But they did that thing from your past, which no

638
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,240
one who even know about otherwise and an offense. Yeah, yeah,

639
00:30:59,559 --> 00:31:01,640
to find these things. I don't think anyone really has

640
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,599
a comment. It's one of my best Friends is Jewish

641
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640
up there twenty side of the years. That's not Peter

642
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,960
Robins during it. He's probably is that he's a compass.

643
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,279
He's a silly compass idiot, and I think he's his

644
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,440
loyalty as impressionable. Yeah, I don't care what he is.

645
00:31:15,519 --> 00:31:19,559
I mean, And he's portrayed Larry. He portrayed Larry Warren.

646
00:31:19,559 --> 00:31:22,119
And when Larry, when Peter turned against him, Harry was

647
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,359
gut to do. I mean, Larry has a lot of bravado.

648
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,519
He acts the tough guy. But he went out, he

649
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:28,519
went out into Liverpool and he got drunk and he

650
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:31,640
got in his shovel and he was really he was devastatious.

651
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,960
Would Larry Warren think about Richard B Bourne's episode We

652
00:31:36,119 --> 00:31:40,359
want the Peter Hyattum statement analysis don't remember. I imagine

653
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Larry was have a very low opinion of it, and

654
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,200
as he'd I did as well. I thought it was.

655
00:31:44,279 --> 00:31:48,160
It's it's like, Richard, you see all the backslappers do this,

656
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,480
you know, because they won't because they they turned against

657
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:54,319
everyone in the community and they say, well, I'll solve this.

658
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,079
Richard was literally saying I'm gonna solve this once and

659
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,839
for all dreams because I'm going to have the water

660
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,200
next because I'm off the beard. So don't don't feel

661
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,400
house Red, blizz mate house Red.

662
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,119
Speaker 8: He managed to get back on track. Couble, we did

663
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,880
define Keita Ribbins. But yeah, well actually actually Peter Robbins,

664
00:32:18,359 --> 00:32:20,400
I'll ask Neilson to edit out a bit about the

665
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,880
offense archaeology.

666
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,039
Speaker 1: But but I will. But yeah, apart from that, I will,

667
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,200
I big your fifth archology is worth bringing up. I

668
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:31,720
may not bring a still recording. Yeah, I may not

669
00:32:31,839 --> 00:32:34,359
mention the subject matter simply because you know, somebody can

670
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,359
go to jail, right, but I mean I know, I

671
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,359
noticely in these times. Yeah, I mean not in this country,

672
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,960
but in other countries they can literally go to jail

673
00:32:41,079 --> 00:32:43,880
just for listening to that, right, Okay, it's you illegal

674
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:45,960
to question. We are in a country now and where

675
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,519
you can be jail. Yeah, saying pretty soon in this

676
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,400
country is going to be exactly the same. Yeah, I mean,

677
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,359
we know people have gone to jail simply for expression

678
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:55,920
of peons. We know that some you know, it isn't it.

679
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,880
They're almost looking for excuses, Yeah, they almost looking for

680
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,559
excuses in Jael that you make some pan commented is

681
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:06,880
unwise and they're letting everybody out their place exactly, and

682
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
the police will then attack, the will arrest you just

683
00:33:10,279 --> 00:33:12,519
because it's just It's also like an she say no,

684
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,000
it's not a serious thing. Like the lady who said, oh,

685
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:17,720
I hope those hotels burned down didn't say burn the

686
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,000
hotels down, She just said I wouldn't care if they

687
00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:23,440
did get burned there. Now that was interpreted as a draft.

688
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,400
And Lucy Conroy and she's still in jail now I

689
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,680
didn't know about She got like eighteen nonsen and jam

690
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:33,240
they she's sounded too much Ovington. This is despite the

691
00:33:33,319 --> 00:33:35,799
fact she she deleted the tweet like an hour later.

692
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,039
She went out for a water dog, came back to

693
00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:39,759
the better of it and deleted. By then someone had

694
00:33:39,799 --> 00:33:41,799
seen it and reported it. I think I think the

695
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:44,119
fat that shoes, the one from a conservative council doesn't

696
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:48,039
have but Lily and she's caught a white woman, which

697
00:33:48,079 --> 00:33:50,880
of course is again lower tear in. Yeah, if you're

698
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,920
a white ur and you're definitely not allowed to say

699
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,680
these things. See we already know they've already said that

700
00:33:55,759 --> 00:33:58,559
the record process we going forward in England. It's going

701
00:33:58,640 --> 00:33:59,680
to be two tier.

702
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,119
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, if you're a minority, you could treat different

703
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,160
from a white person because they have the current.

704
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: Sadlers of this. Well, that's a right, it's a part.

705
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:10,920
They call it a plante. I mean, it's true that

706
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,079
they backtracked on it, but let's FRACI I mean they've

707
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:16,000
been the course of actually been doing this anyway for

708
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,119
several years now. That's are still in the favor of whites.

709
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,440
We've still committed their spines. Well see, I mean this

710
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:26,519
is it's that bab But yeah, but this is not

711
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,440
this is not to genibrate any individual. But the fact

712
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,559
is certain certain racial baps do tendency to different kinds

713
00:34:32,599 --> 00:34:33,079
of behavior.

714
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,519
Speaker 6: This sounds like one of those nineteen seventies discussions from Saga. Yeah,

715
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,800
but that's not that that's not real. Yeah, but that's

716
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,559
not that's not a suerracious need to say that.

717
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 3: No, it is batistical and just with the immigrants that

718
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,280
they everybody in this country, you are doing a lot

719
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,599
of the thing for these are these are out of

720
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:58,880
effects and in pas case, yeah, I believe, I believe

721
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,519
every individual.

722
00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: I give every individual chance. Fat is a certain denogram

723
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,800
fixed of strength for weaknesses and habit and tendency to

724
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000
certain commuity. Yeah. Certain, we have given value the good

725
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:11,679
wife philosophy that making being shipped to here. It doesn't

726
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,800
mean that why people are sud free douts a that

727
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:19,119
it just means but we're different and we need that.

728
00:35:19,199 --> 00:35:21,519
This is why we live in different countries. This is

729
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,679
because when we live in different countries, we can live,

730
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:25,840
we can live in our own societies in our own way,

731
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,239
which is which is excellently why the government are filling

732
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:33,480
foreign countries with filling countries of for us. It's actually

733
00:35:33,519 --> 00:35:35,199
not they're not just letting out and it's not like

734
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,960
people out of idea that all all the active roles

735
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,920
being played by the immigrants and they come they are going,

736
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,960
I made sport last night. You know they could have.

737
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:45,760
So it's a it's all a big carple basis. It's

738
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:50,079
hand rain. We're democratic quiety. Now we'd like to do

739
00:35:50,199 --> 00:35:55,360
something then makey. It's it's a deliberatey astro. Yeah.

740
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:00,320
Speaker 3: And Richie Allen was talking about this than the mijor

741
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,360
industrial complex, good.

742
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,199
Speaker 5: Knowing, good knowing about how many realthy peak of this

743
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,880
counctuary right now of real life that they can buy

744
00:36:08,559 --> 00:36:11,960
hotels and they can sign up for a five ten

745
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,559
year lease of the governop to house these people and.

746
00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: The government given a full ship. See the ideal of

747
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,599
the government is letting it happen as monstens. This is

748
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,320
this is being organized at the highest level. This is

749
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,000
the duff RaSE movement of people. Let me tell you something.

750
00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:29,559
I was in Pisa last week. Pisa is flooded with

751
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,400
migrants from India and Africa.

752
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 3: I went to Livorno, was a prime nearby and there's

753
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:39,280
a Berrelic zoo which we go to for roller skating,

754
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:43,480
has a nice little car for the flat area. It

755
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:49,039
was absolutely flooded with Indian speaking Indian pedis dean? Now

756
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,239
does that in there that Indian people have lived there?

757
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,840
But not in these numbers, not millions and millions of them.

758
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,880
But there were no white visitor there and what is

759
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,599
that fault?

760
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,039
Speaker 1: So so they have the moved the people here. They

761
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,719
could not speak it's Alia, they could not speak English.

762
00:37:05,039 --> 00:37:08,039
They were praying their own music and celsisters and our

763
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:11,760
own days. He out suddenly is not right, Oh, cheersday,

764
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,360
that's a large one. I thank you very much. It's

765
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,239
a right okay. Maybe when she said largest well, I

766
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,800
have no idea what Thank you very much. What's just

767
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,239
stick to you. And I'm finding right up to that

768
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,800
to be honest, thank you that so thank you very much. Dar.

769
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,360
But yeah, it's some but you're right, it's I mean this,

770
00:37:28,519 --> 00:37:30,159
this process has to be reversed. That has to be

771
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,840
mass deportations, and I mean that the leftist will portray

772
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,800
it as like a round of art cut long cat

773
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,239
trucks at Duncoy. No, it can be done ethically, it

774
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,559
can be done. It can be done peace streen ethically,

775
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,599
it could be done without harming any of these individuals.

776
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,360
I would oppose any retaliatory attacks, but I believe it.

777
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,000
I believe it. They simply have to be removed and

778
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,800
repatrations and their relations the nations of the origin, which

779
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:56,960
can be done and as soon as as the political

780
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,199
will to do it, it will be done. I don't

781
00:37:58,199 --> 00:38:00,239
think NOSR Ferrance is going to do it. I don't

782
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,559
trust him. I don't I don't it. I don't think

783
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,519
it's going to happen. If it doesn't, then I mean

784
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,920
that's at my conservative Yeah, you could drive some lawns.

785
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,400
You got him in the country. Divil will get out

786
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,280
because of that. Yeah, I was just saying to lose

787
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:14,760
to this pipe.

788
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 3: By the way, I was just saying to Bend that

789
00:38:17,519 --> 00:38:20,119
I went to Pisa last weekend because they had like

790
00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,880
a four day week ind soot you stay with Sarah

791
00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:24,880
there before because you talked to us about it. Yeah,

792
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,480
I think I've been a few times now. I'll show

793
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:32,079
you some pictures. I'll find out. But there's in Livorno,

794
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,840
is a town next to Pisa, because they're all seaside towns, right,

795
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:40,639
And there's an old disused zoo which was a really

796
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:43,239
good roller skating era. Because I'm into skating, so I

797
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,519
keep my skates out there, so.

798
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:45,679
Speaker 1: I'm no big go skating.

799
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,679
Speaker 3: And Lovanna and Pisa are now flooded with migrants. And

800
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,079
you've got the African nigrants on the streets, hundreds of them.

801
00:38:54,119 --> 00:38:57,559
You've got lots of rich Arab people, but a lot

802
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,119
of them. You've got a lot large number of like

803
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,559
Arab and Turkish takeaways opening where they were none, so

804
00:39:04,679 --> 00:39:07,400
that's great because they needed those. Then you've got a

805
00:39:07,559 --> 00:39:09,599
lot of people from it, and some of them looked

806
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,840
really poor. Some of them looked like they've got a

807
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,800
lot of money. But there are loads of and I

808
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,800
mean you're looking around, you're thinking of what was going on.

809
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: When we went to the zoo area with the park,

810
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,719
you were the only white people. It was a brood

811
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,719
of about fifty like Indian kids.

812
00:39:26,599 --> 00:39:28,760
Speaker 3: I guess they were like Hindus because they were playing

813
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
like Hindu style music on the sound stys and they

814
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:33,800
were playing cricket. And then there was a group of

815
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,719
at least sort of fifteen and Muslims, family's.

816
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,039
Speaker 1: Children with the women are wearing them pew jobs and stuff.

817
00:39:40,559 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 3: And I heard them speaking English and whatever language it

818
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,679
is they spoke. Yeah, and there were there was one

819
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:49,920
little white boy and a stutter with his doubt.

820
00:39:51,559 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: And now I remember an old man, an old Italian

821
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,239
now just sit and watching with his hat on. I

822
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,639
don't remember any old white people, Riki. And this is

823
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:04,679
pizza the tourist area where you should expect local vendors

824
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,159
doing their stuffy and love what.

825
00:40:08,039 --> 00:40:11,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm righting to sea you've got pizza. And then

826
00:40:11,199 --> 00:40:14,280
all the little sea side sounds right there come mad.

827
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,400
And so when you're having lunch or in the king

828
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,440
along there, the Africans come up to you and they're

829
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:21,920
selling sun cheeses.

830
00:40:22,199 --> 00:40:22,679
Speaker 1: Yeah.

831
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 3: Well, the same stuff they do here. And because they

832
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:27,440
are speak English and they say, oh no, I leave here.

833
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
I live in what is there? I live in called

834
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,960
Salvetti or wherever you know? You know what, Ben, I'm

835
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:33,599
gonna be a real pain in the ass. I'm gonna go,

836
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,559
but i'll be back. I need my glass is there,

837
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,280
and we'll do some more in a minute. I'll finish

838
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,039
out some measures.

839
00:40:41,079 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: I'll do that and then put it up all seeing.

840
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,800
It's like when you go upstairs, like you're in a corridor,

841
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,639
the Titanic, is it? It is really ship like that.

842
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,480
It's very old, the first all that old world. Yeah,

843
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,280
oh cheers, thanks very much. It's not your house wine.

844
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,360
They run out of that. So there's something else I

845
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,239
thought they they point me way back in. I'll just

846
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,880
ab whatever o the red day got. And I know

847
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:13,239
nothing about wine's bark of red and white. And that's

848
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,960
all I know. I'm gonna we'll shut up to me.

849
00:41:16,119 --> 00:41:18,880
We'll be back a minute, all right, but then get

850
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,199
us talk on more woone stuff for sure. Sure, I'll

851
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,480
just press suns. I'll put it on pulses for a second.

852
00:41:26,519 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 3: Now, there's a little town here called Chechener, right, and

853
00:41:30,159 --> 00:41:32,400
a lot of tourists go there. It's just a little

854
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,119
seaside strip. And last year in the summer I was

855
00:41:36,199 --> 00:41:38,239
there and we could only go out at night because

856
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,000
it was so hot. Yeah, and so it was pitched

857
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,719
back and we were walking down the main boulevard or

858
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,760
all the tourists, and we got to the end somewhere

859
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,119
down there, and we looked up in the sky and

860
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:52,199
this huge white flash like that, well like a real

861
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,199
messy white lot and it wasn't the pipe in the sky,

862
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,679
and it basically.

863
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,639
Speaker 1: Went into nothing but the blackness. She said to me,

864
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:05,000
what is that? And I said, I did not know,

865
00:42:05,079 --> 00:42:09,960
but that did not look more strange. Course, I have

866
00:42:10,199 --> 00:42:14,400
no idea what the white flash so quickly and then disappearance.

867
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,679
The meteor wasn't that quick. It was kind of like

868
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,239
like that meteorite maybe was it. There was no thunder

869
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,559
or anything. It was just so lying that and it

870
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:28,840
looked like it was just above us. We'll have a

871
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,440
wonder playing. I was listening to rich Planet m tonight

872
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,960
because they sent out a new episode. He said, I mean,

873
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,639
I'm just downloaded. I didn't have time to watch that.

874
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,119
Was it good? Well? What it was? I woke up

875
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:40,159
about four o'clock in the morning, the needing the road

876
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,480
came back, and I thought, what's the time, Oh, there's Flord.

877
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:46,639
Thought I'll just check email just because I can't sleep. Yeah,

878
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:50,079
and he sends out a Rich Platot episode like three

879
00:42:50,079 --> 00:42:52,239
o'clock in the morning, So thinking, oh my god, you know,

880
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,599
how does that work? So I thought I'll mark that

881
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,440
email to check it out maybe over the weekend. How

882
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:02,880
my mind was inactive, so I couldn't sleep, so I thought,

883
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,480
oh sudden, I listened to this Rich I won't watch it,

884
00:43:05,519 --> 00:43:07,840
I'll just listen to it. And I fell asleep listen

885
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,280
to it, which is great, but it was I would

886
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,639
put Andrew Johnson here about ten years ago and they're

887
00:43:13,679 --> 00:43:19,119
talking about free energy devices and he says, now in

888
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:25,480
this new program, but he's gonna concentrate Rich Planet episodes

889
00:43:26,159 --> 00:43:29,079
mostly on free energy divan. And I noticed he sworn

890
00:43:29,079 --> 00:43:31,440
a Rich Planet power he's given that he's had a series,

891
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,719
And was wondering about this and thinking, is this because

892
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:38,440
precious being put on him from somewhere. Know he's picking

893
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,239
a safe on the door. The thing is he if

894
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,800
he if he starts throwing out false flag terror, you know,

895
00:43:45,159 --> 00:43:48,280
I mean I think Richard. I wouldn't criticize Richard because

896
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,000
he's done more than most people do, the stand up

897
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:51,760
to the phans and put his life on that. He

898
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,519
had so many so many people just cave in, like

899
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:56,480
Alex Jones, division know, they just cave in and they

900
00:43:56,519 --> 00:43:59,039
start like apologizing and taking the knee, and he Richard

901
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:02,000
didn't do that. But you know, obviously he's now under

902
00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:04,079
a court order. He had to remove like about fifty

903
00:44:04,159 --> 00:44:08,320
of his videos and and if he if he confused,

904
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,280
he'd have been immediately arrested for contempt of courts musically

905
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,679
refaced a criminal charge and you go to jail. And

906
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:16,400
so now he's he's just to be very careful on

907
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,000
what he put talks about and uploads because of this

908
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,920
damn court order. We have totally unspoken to him and

909
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:25,000
said he probably have been advised by a lawyer as well. Yes,

910
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,039
he he does. He is a guy called He's Poor.

911
00:44:28,119 --> 00:44:30,679
His name is the guy that represented yeah, Paul Oakley.

912
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,519
He's a really really cool guy. He used to use

913
00:44:32,599 --> 00:44:34,519
to like he was in u KiB and he like

914
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:36,960
wrote for the Light and stuff like that. He's a

915
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,559
good guy, really good guy. You see the guy that

916
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,800
Richard did an interview with recently. They're really sanding. I

917
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,639
don't know. Yeah, he's very cost he's a barrister, I

918
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,519
mean bright, I don't know you swiftly, but I met

919
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:49,159
him and he's a really good guy. He's really nice

920
00:44:49,159 --> 00:44:52,360
to chat. Obviously, he's not just I mean, you know,

921
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:54,440
barristers can Like when I first tore him talk and

922
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:56,840
I thought is barristers will do their job, which is

923
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,719
to act like they really support somebody even as they

924
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,239
do and their job is to be it's all acting

925
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,320
for reci. But after I spoke to her in the

926
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,119
pub afterwards, he's very obviously he really does believe him

927
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,800
that Richard's doing and he believes in his course. And yeah,

928
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,559
funnily after like the you know, the prosecution barrister was crap.

929
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,840
He was awful. Yeah, he was like the guy who

930
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,800
was hip for the Hibberts, acting for the hid as.

931
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,760
He was bloody use of the Hibbitts for the people

932
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,239
that didn't know their being orazed. Yeah, the guy who

933
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,480
was acting for the complainants. Yeah, he couldn't give an

934
00:45:25,519 --> 00:45:28,800
example of being arrested. There was he would be pointed

935
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:31,119
out open they took him to pieces. I mean he

936
00:45:31,199 --> 00:45:33,119
took the witness to pieces. I mean, if there's any

937
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,480
justice in the world that the judge would have this

938
00:45:35,639 --> 00:45:39,000
the case. But the I mean I was into this

939
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:43,559
barrister droning on like about how Richard this was the

940
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:45,280
you know Richard had done this. Now he didn't do

941
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,280
any health and safety assessments something like that on court.

942
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,400
Than well, this guy is not on Richard's side because

943
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,719
he was crap. He was crap health and so yeah,

944
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,760
Hibbert h the Hibbot's got the lawyer they deserved. And

945
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,880
of course it was all a fork one conclusion unfortunately.

946
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,400
I mean that I knew, I knew the judgement was

947
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:08,119
like Karen Steen and she's the oh yeah, like another

948
00:46:08,159 --> 00:46:12,800
one called lord Lord martham Stein or some with and

949
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,159
he's like in the House of Lords or something. She's complete.

950
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,239
I mean, her record track record is total establishment file

951
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,599
and I thought she's there's no way she's gonna she's

952
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:22,760
gonna rule against.

953
00:46:22,519 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 9: The the the home would have been decided before, he

954
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,760
was decided before, like Helen's own with him, tri decided

955
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:33,400
it probably of the ABC, the BBC and people and

956
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:35,519
someone in government got together and someone in the Supreme

957
00:46:35,559 --> 00:46:37,800
Port got together and sawt we got just shipped.

958
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: That shipped this guy out, and that's the whole thing

959
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:45,079
was decided. Then everyone knows it and we went along

960
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:47,480
as the poor Richard richardly he's not someone I get

961
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:50,320
on with. I don't particularly like the man, but he

962
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,639
didn't deserve this, and he really really was. What was

963
00:46:52,679 --> 00:46:55,800
done to him was done to and it was horrific

964
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,480
what they did to him.

965
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:03,039
Speaker 3: When he started getting u when the news first broke

966
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:05,920
with the bore Pace and the BBC had his YouTube channel,

967
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:10,679
I received a mysterious email telling me, hello, the musician.

968
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,679
Speaker 1: I think it's just the Richard eve Wood was using

969
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:13,280
one music.

970
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 10: I bet he's not Kaane waltis usual punt prets And

971
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,639
I thought, who let me think as a music producer myself,

972
00:47:23,079 --> 00:47:25,480
do I have to sign to research.

973
00:47:25,199 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: What newsic he's being used? Oh yeah, sure, thanks you mum,

974
00:47:28,679 --> 00:47:30,960
thank you. Do you know it's weird? Weird because Jackie

975
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,920
Body told you this, well, she got to follow marionn

976
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,320
Spin started following her on Twitter. That's whr email me

977
00:47:36,519 --> 00:47:39,480
under Relius, I think marilis break Yeah, and do you

978
00:47:39,559 --> 00:47:43,719
know what the saying just just actually blocked me. And

979
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,840
it's really weird because I've only interacted with her a

980
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:47,639
couple of times and I left a comment. It wasn't

981
00:47:47,679 --> 00:47:50,440
even rude, it was a slightly sarcastic and she blocked me.

982
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,880
Who I am? What In the email? What they said

983
00:47:54,039 --> 00:47:57,960
was they wanted me to contact with Performing Rights Society

984
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:05,159
and complain about and money a sequence of offense on Killogian.

985
00:48:05,519 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, whereas don't even deal with YouTube, rather use any

986
00:48:09,039 --> 00:48:11,639
whom they didn't kill forecast and mechanical.

987
00:48:12,159 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: So feel free to neil. This is something everyone knows anyway,

988
00:48:15,519 --> 00:48:18,880
so feel free to use the recording on this. Everyone

989
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,599
knows this already.

990
00:48:19,639 --> 00:48:21,760
Speaker 3: Could have said Tie Richard recently, and he said that

991
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,320
he's planning on some new featured documentaries over the next

992
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:26,920
couple of years.

993
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: And it's the news in the world news. And I've

994
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,440
given him the catalog for my label. Was it you

995
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:36,840
who did the theend tunes to rich Black? No? No,

996
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,840
who did that? That was a guy called DJ Radji.

997
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,639
Speaker 3: If I'd done that, I wouldn't send myself back to

998
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:43,840
music reduction school.

999
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,079
Speaker 1: But that was that was a guy called DJ Rager. Yeah.

1000
00:48:49,199 --> 00:48:51,719
It's fun though, it's fun, but he's Sanato, So what

1001
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:55,679
music was your GC in the past.

1002
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,199
Speaker 3: I've just given in selected releases on in all of

1003
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:03,199
my labels and he shows and we'll sponsored in the past.

1004
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,079
Speaker 1: There's a there's a drum based track that he likes

1005
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:06,880
to use every single time.

1006
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:11,199
Speaker 3: Uh, it's just got a Sampie the skill sticked every

1007
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,599
sing's serio time and he says there's a mentrophee in

1008
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,199
because they're doing things again and again that we know

1009
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:19,639
they're going to be every single time.

1010
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 1: That's how he explained it to me. There's another track

1011
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:25,320
that I did.

1012
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,039
Speaker 3: With Bill people look Panda, who's a sing at Arizonia

1013
00:49:30,039 --> 00:49:34,880
And it's that key favorite kind of fire And there

1014
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,000
is no signif because as to why he uses it.

1015
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:39,280
Speaker 1: He just likes Elves in the Manchester one. Yeah, actual

1016
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,400
Arena one's yeah. Yeah, he just he just said he

1017
00:49:41,559 --> 00:49:43,480
likes that one, so he uses that ball. It's a

1018
00:49:43,559 --> 00:49:47,800
legitimate tune. I like thattually and I'm gone, I think already, Yeah,

1019
00:49:48,159 --> 00:49:49,400
I did, wonder way it came from a lot of

1020
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,159
people asked where that came from, and a lot of

1021
00:49:51,199 --> 00:49:53,840
his music stood. It's like the one he uses. It's

1022
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,400
for Shore upbeat and he used for the almost identified

1023
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,440
and well not very bit.

1024
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 3: And they're a strange to see that went on there

1025
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:03,280
at least the girl or a sangle atread she got

1026
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:08,519
a stalker and she since had to withdraw from online

1027
00:50:08,639 --> 00:50:11,360
life Trublic and that coincided with.

1028
00:50:11,559 --> 00:50:15,199
Speaker 1: Me getting that that's that can't be a coincidence. I mean,

1029
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,559
it looks like the establishment is like they're trying to

1030
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:21,000
attack Richian in any way they can. So she's yeah,

1031
00:50:21,039 --> 00:50:24,760
she's as I said in my article, you know, they

1032
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,880
get the two just paramilitaries to do it for them

1033
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,639
rather than passing forward. So this this is a they

1034
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:30,679
wanted you to sue it.

1035
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,800
Speaker 3: This is a promographic of me and the least from

1036
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,880
one of the latest tracks that sart the YouTube background.

1037
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: So that's her.

1038
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 3: And yeah, she's had to she's had to disappear because

1039
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:45,119
she's had this stalker and the sky is after her

1040
00:50:45,679 --> 00:50:49,599
and she's in Arizona and Sidoni and that all started

1041
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,519
when planning stuff started.

1042
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if this girl some out a

1043
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:55,440
word of this stry and told him to do that.

1044
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,920
I do wonder you did. So, I mean this this

1045
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,039
seems like obviously there's a very highly organized very high

1046
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:04,960
level attack against Richard and and because our names are

1047
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,320
on there.

1048
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,159
Speaker 3: I mean, if you go on the Internet movie database,

1049
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,480
you see our names attached to Brits Plannett.

1050
00:51:09,559 --> 00:51:11,840
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I'm in the photo with Richard and

1051
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:13,760
then it's been in the news with my shirt hanging out.

1052
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,760
It's really annoying. I didn't tap the shirt in. But

1053
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,519
I think I'm expecting the Blakey orphan these people any

1054
00:51:18,559 --> 00:51:20,360
time now you haven't hadly has to be at though

1055
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:22,639
not yet it's a new knowledge and no, but like

1056
00:51:22,679 --> 00:51:24,719
that they could be. They could be building up like

1057
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,840
inflo Line and John's hands stuff because he's also Yeah,

1058
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,840
lictor Ridicular so surprised. I'd be horrified if someone had

1059
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,239
to go at him just for just for like being

1060
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,280
in the especially opinions. Yeah, but I'm gonna do. I

1061
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,800
do expect people. I mean, maun Spring obviously knows who

1062
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:45,760
I am and whether it's I mean, I do wonder

1063
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,559
like because Neil sand has changed his tune, didn't they?

1064
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:51,920
I mean he was on her bloody prow beam Za's

1065
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,519
chat forum. Yeah it was there was she did this

1066
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:57,559
article when he was in BBC website. Then she did

1067
00:51:57,599 --> 00:52:01,119
that stupid Radio four series Disaster trol. Yeah, and then

1068
00:52:01,159 --> 00:52:03,360
she is that episode of PanAm Rana, which is like

1069
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,039
it didn't go he goes into less detail. It's shorter,

1070
00:52:06,159 --> 00:52:08,639
but it goes in the sless detail. Neil was complaining

1071
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:11,960
about how that he thought that that was it didn't

1072
00:52:12,199 --> 00:52:14,679
really represent his views, and I said, I didn't say

1073
00:52:14,679 --> 00:52:17,199
anything because to him, but I just thought to myself, Neil,

1074
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,920
you're you're not that naive. If you do you choose

1075
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,159
to go to an interview with the BBC, what do

1076
00:52:21,199 --> 00:52:23,880
you bloody expect? And since then Neil is just like

1077
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,760
Gonna one eighty. He turned coat and he's stabbing Richard

1078
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,760
in the back. He's attacking everyone who defends where.

1079
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:31,519
Speaker 3: It should and he's he's just he's done that to

1080
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,880
me on the safe side so that he can put

1081
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:38,119
this savine and pretend that he's changed his mind at all.

1082
00:52:38,199 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 1: And the fight, I mean, he did a review of

1083
00:52:40,119 --> 00:52:43,639
my of my reportage on the whole things. I did

1084
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,960
an entire porthos, and you're saying things silly. You're saying

1085
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,239
that I was being silly and I was being immature,

1086
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:52,480
and all horrible things he said about me. I mean

1087
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:54,760
Brent Lee, and I've seen a bit of sympathy for

1088
00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:57,559
Brent because Brent, I mean, if you've only got to

1089
00:52:57,559 --> 00:52:59,480
talk to brand and you can see that he is,

1090
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,599
he's clearly traun sized. Yeah, I mean you only got

1091
00:53:03,679 --> 00:53:06,360
talk to him listening, he's like he's really really hurt.

1092
00:53:06,679 --> 00:53:09,840
Is that Red Lee who does this show with Neil? Okay,

1093
00:53:10,159 --> 00:53:12,400
but Neil is. I don't I feel much less charitable

1094
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,119
towards to Neil because Neil is. I really enjoyed his

1095
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,159
early rich on my episode. Yeah, but Neil's book the

1096
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,280
other thing. You know, Neil's book before you on your own.

1097
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,599
It's so good. Yes, it's so It's sad actually to

1098
00:53:24,639 --> 00:53:28,880
see someone like him like you do a backflip, yeah, yeah,

1099
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,719
changing something. It's like Gary, you mentioned on Ben's livestream

1100
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,280
last night you saw a virgin Mary on the place. Yes,

1101
00:53:36,559 --> 00:53:40,039
talk about that. So it was back in the days

1102
00:53:40,079 --> 00:53:42,639
where I was commuting back and forth to the Mexica vote.

1103
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would fly into Del Rio, Texas, so that

1104
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:47,480
I could just drive across the board that five bucks

1105
00:53:47,519 --> 00:53:50,280
down the road, and I was sitting on one of

1106
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,320
those small propeller planes that United Airlines used to use.

1107
00:53:54,039 --> 00:53:56,159
And I was just looking into the aisle as only

1108
00:53:56,159 --> 00:54:00,360
about ten seats, and I saw that that out flying

1109
00:54:00,519 --> 00:54:03,800
the peeping drawer of the clothing which she wears, and

1110
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,480
the blow around her just sort of stand behind up

1111
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:09,760
with her arms together, looking slightly downwards, and it just

1112
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:15,599
kind of appeared up blood that yeahside inside the aisle.

1113
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:19,119
And well, I can say it was in my mind.

1114
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,119
I don't notice short it was actually there. I can

1115
00:54:22,199 --> 00:54:25,559
see it clearly for at least through and five seconds

1116
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,440
before it faded out.

1117
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 1: It was slight color to it, a boozy greens and

1118
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:36,239
very translucent. But of course, you know, I've had quite

1119
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,039
a few weird experiences in Mexico.

1120
00:54:38,639 --> 00:54:40,559
Speaker 3: The weirdest thing that ever happened to me, of course,

1121
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,039
which I had spoke about previously on the Paranormal Cute Show,

1122
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,239
because when I used to sit on the fat roof

1123
00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,239
of my house in the evenings.

1124
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,639
Speaker 1: In Mexico at the end of the day and look

1125
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:51,320
at the stars.

1126
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:53,840
Speaker 3: One evening, I jumped down and as I looked up,

1127
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,119
a flock of about six or seven birds made of

1128
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,159
light flew over me.

1129
00:55:00,679 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: This was mind blowing. I do not know what to

1130
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:04,960
make of it. To this day.

1131
00:55:06,199 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 3: Every person I told it to even on that day,

1132
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:14,639
had no reaction and I was desperate to kind of

1133
00:55:14,679 --> 00:55:15,599
talk to someone about it.

1134
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,039
Speaker 1: Slipped this bee. It was it was a flock of.

1135
00:55:18,039 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 3: Birds and they were made of light. They were moving,

1136
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,199
the light was moving inside one. It was like it

1137
00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:26,039
was c g I but there are no Cuna is

1138
00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:30,280
a very poor place, right, There are no There is

1139
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,440
no one with a hologram machine at a Cunya.

1140
00:55:33,199 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm really telling people living under bridge or something else

1141
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,519
took them. And it's it's boldly out. There's the wild west.

1142
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:41,599
And I saw these things fly off into the distance.

1143
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:47,440
So what generated those id There is no technology. They

1144
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,159
in a kind of classic v formation shape, like like

1145
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,840
the very slight air. I can see it so vivid,

1146
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:57,559
and I wonder, like what time of year would it

1147
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,719
be for Like would would it be a time of

1148
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,079
year for birds my great sourdor west of wherever they go?

1149
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,079
You know what? I should have written down the dat

1150
00:56:06,159 --> 00:56:08,079
but I didn't because that might have helped, you know,

1151
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:11,039
it could be the someone says, oh, yeah, you get

1152
00:56:11,039 --> 00:56:13,679
a certain bird that the catches are light and because

1153
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,920
they got translucent feathers or something which come off in

1154
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:17,480
the season.

1155
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: You know, this is what It was dark and dark.

1156
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:23,239
It was dark, and they were in fire. This was

1157
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,719
no there was no chance that I could have mistaken

1158
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,000
a real bird us of it. These were birds made

1159
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:31,760
of fire and light and they were orange.

1160
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Were like that. Yeah, yeah, fire but like that. And

1161
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:40,679
I'm obviously to the tape. I'm pointing to a sunset

1162
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:44,199
on a book that you was giving me. Yeah. And

1163
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,440
I could see the.

1164
00:56:45,559 --> 00:56:48,760
Speaker 3: Texture of the light within them moving as well as

1165
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,559
the limbs of the birds moving. Did you get a

1166
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:55,400
kind of estiment do Yeah, You're on a roof, of course,

1167
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,840
and there was there's tree. There were trees into my

1168
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:02,880
gardens upon still then how and I well, let's say

1169
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,000
that my roof was about that height. Yeah, I will

1170
00:57:06,039 --> 00:57:10,199
climb down for the window. Yeah, riids there were like twice.

1171
00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 1: This, so say that's about ten feet maybe, yeah, they

1172
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,360
were no more than double that twenty feet So they

1173
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:18,920
were so low. Could you feel any kind of air

1174
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,559
from you? Nothing? No sound, no sound, nothing. It happened

1175
00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:23,719
to me.

1176
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:27,760
Speaker 3: It was quite a quiet moment, and quite a quiet

1177
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,599
part of that because that was a noisy part of town.

1178
00:57:30,239 --> 00:57:32,280
I'm not saying I went into the odds factor. It

1179
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:38,400
just happened to be a quiet few minutes. And yeah,

1180
00:57:38,719 --> 00:57:42,440
it was at least I guess it was five seconds.

1181
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,920
I watched them before they were through the trees and onwards.

1182
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: So do you strain no neighbors you could speak to them?

1183
00:57:50,039 --> 00:57:51,480
Might have been about no.

1184
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 3: At that time, I didn't know the neighbors all were surrounding,

1185
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:59,800
and many of the properties that are locked and new

1186
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,159
you keep yourself to themselves their high walls. You can't

1187
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,000
communicate with them the way you might be going neighbors

1188
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:09,960
in the UK, And so I had no explanation for it.

1189
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:14,079
As for migrating birds, when you've seen migrate the birds

1190
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,239
in that part of the world, you see them up

1191
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:20,280
very very five lying in a V format and people

1192
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:27,079
often confused for UFOs is the sunshine and y could

1193
00:58:27,079 --> 00:58:28,880
be reflective? Yeah, somebody saying.

1194
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,639
Speaker 1: I feel all lover the lights. Was I assume like

1195
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,199
to see where they will? You think? Do you heard anything?

1196
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,960
It's sort of thing I heard it rings a bell.

1197
00:58:38,039 --> 00:58:41,239
I mean, of course Gary's told me about this before privately. Yeah,

1198
00:58:41,719 --> 00:58:43,639
and I remember telling me about being very impressed by

1199
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:46,880
this first I've heard about their strange acquish on the phane.

1200
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:52,920
But yeah, strange experiences on aircraft are not unusual. Now

1201
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,079
this seeing something one in the air is interesting. I mean,

1202
00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:58,719
I'm going to do a long crane flight in a

1203
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:00,679
couple of weeks and I'm furious see if I see

1204
00:59:00,679 --> 00:59:03,559
anything strange. But the Ovish one is, you know, and

1205
00:59:04,159 --> 00:59:07,000
I'm telling you right now that I don't go back

1206
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:09,880
there is not real. You know, did the late the

1207
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:13,199
Craigie playing lady This has been put down all kinds

1208
00:59:13,199 --> 00:59:14,760
of things, But the way she woulded it and the

1209
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:17,400
way she spoke, this was a plane that was not flying.

1210
00:59:17,519 --> 00:59:19,079
It was on the ground. It had taken off yet.

1211
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,039
That's how they could go back to a terminal and

1212
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:22,880
ship the old bag off. You know, I get rid

1213
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,400
of in the video of her being kicked out by

1214
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,679
the coppers. Yeah, and the fly was late three hours.

1215
00:59:26,719 --> 00:59:29,719
I'm sure they made up popular it's but you know

1216
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:33,280
it's there's all kinds of exams of people seeing strange

1217
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,039
things on plane now this and was very common in

1218
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:38,840
the only days of aviation is the Gremlins, which of

1219
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,079
course is the feature and the toilets own episode.

1220
00:59:41,119 --> 00:59:42,719
Speaker 3: You've heard the real story of the Brennan's on the

1221
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:43,920
Mexican airlines flying.

1222
00:59:44,559 --> 00:59:46,079
Speaker 1: But where they were, yes, where they was. They were

1223
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,679
playing on the outside of Braine Dick. Preston Dennett did

1224
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:54,079
the video. Yeah, the sees Her name was, of course,

1225
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,840
her name Tullow, Audrey Tllow. Somebody tellow. She actually reported

1226
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,639
it to the Spanish for this Mexican researcher that every

1227
01:00:01,719 --> 01:00:03,440
board is and other people who wrote in his book

1228
01:00:03,679 --> 01:00:05,800
that I mean, she's space. But then it was true,

1229
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,960
what's more privates in that company and they backed her up.

1230
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,639
There were more numbers stewarts on the plane that saw

1231
01:00:10,719 --> 01:00:13,000
these theits. Yeah, I saw the passengers, but there was

1232
01:00:13,039 --> 01:00:14,480
there were no passengers, but there was. It was like

1233
01:00:14,559 --> 01:00:17,000
a it was like a cold flight. There's a passengers,

1234
01:00:17,039 --> 01:00:18,800
but all the crew were on there a cabin crew

1235
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:23,440
of saying the pilots they saw it. And but there's

1236
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:28,400
other examples. I mean a classic one is Vincent Price.

1237
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,599
One Long is quite appropriate. Actually he's one Long does

1238
01:00:33,639 --> 01:00:38,039
horror movies, it's right. And in nineteen fifty nine he

1239
01:00:38,199 --> 01:00:41,119
was on a flight and he was just looking out

1240
01:00:41,159 --> 01:00:42,920
the windows you do, and they're looking at a look

1241
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,079
at the clouds passing, and he simply saw there was

1242
01:00:46,119 --> 01:00:47,920
some words written on the side of a car like

1243
01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,400
a neon sign. It was just a cud And he

1244
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,039
looks and he and he's got a sword, and he

1245
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:57,840
looks a dead and it's still there. And and if

1246
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,800
these words just said the words Tyre and Power is dead,

1247
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:04,440
and he thought us what Tyron Powers a fellow actor

1248
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,559
who was somebody knew, a friend of his. And in

1249
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,360
those days there were no seatback folks, there were no

1250
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,360
There was no TV screens that you could get information from,

1251
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,519
no incidet or nothing. Yeah, and so there's no way

1252
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,239
if Tyron and Power hand died, he wouldn't have known

1253
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,840
because he was he was in the air when he landed.

1254
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,440
He actually didn't ask someone as is Tyron Howell right,

1255
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:25,679
and they said, mister issue, he wouldn't have known. But

1256
01:01:26,039 --> 01:01:29,559
he died a couple of animals ago. Now. And this

1257
01:01:29,679 --> 01:01:31,360
is something I mean, I haven't see this. This may

1258
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,079
have inspired him because he was very into this sort

1259
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:37,920
this he was as an actor. Yeah, he he liked

1260
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,920
doing these borror roles. And he's supernaturals think they experience

1261
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,880
why that might have intually had him. You know, again,

1262
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,559
I don't know. You see the thing about the gremlin phenomenon.

1263
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,280
I mean, as you know, there's a famous Twilight his

1264
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,639
own episode, but William Shatner pre yet Captain Kirk where

1265
01:01:50,639 --> 01:01:53,079
he's on a plane and he's a recovering psychiatric patient

1266
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,719
and he keeps seeing this gremlin crawling on the wings.

1267
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,440
He's advertising the engines and he keeps telling people, no

1268
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:00,679
one believes him. Eventually he's like, you know, the the

1269
01:02:02,079 --> 01:02:04,760
the start of the chemmetry would basically suppressed, you know,

1270
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:07,559
shacklings of a seat. And when he gets off the plane,

1271
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:10,119
you see the damage done to the air engines and

1272
01:02:10,159 --> 01:02:12,480
you realize he was right the very last shot with

1273
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:16,400
that of that particular thing. And there's there's also a

1274
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:20,000
short story about Arthur Conan Doyer by Arthur Conan Doyr,

1275
01:02:20,039 --> 01:02:22,559
a Sherlock Holmes author, who is a woo woo like us,

1276
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,039
a kind of the title, but it's about a polio

1277
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:27,400
who flies up in his plane and he starts seeing

1278
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,960
these strange crowd figures. This is by the Roll of

1279
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:32,480
dal because Roll Darling, the James and the giant pleats,

1280
01:02:32,519 --> 01:02:36,760
the cloud men, you know, and now the skeptics explanation

1281
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:40,960
is very simple. Altitude singers and it's true. That's what

1282
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:44,119
they would say from my Yeah, well no, you see

1283
01:02:44,159 --> 01:02:47,400
because what I have Yeah, no, no, no, because it's

1284
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,519
not because the aircraft came along with pressure ized cabins,

1285
01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:53,679
and when that happened that the gremlin sightings vastly declined.

1286
01:02:54,199 --> 01:02:56,920
And so yeah, you could explain a hypoxic hypoxic brain

1287
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:00,239
or hallucinations. However, you were on a pressure they are

1288
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,280
part of the pressurized cabin. It's a modern place. So

1289
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,800
it was a one hour flight. Yeah, as also was

1290
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:08,360
the crazy plane Lady tiffinitely go mass As was a

1291
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,519
lot Ellis Taylor, my friend Alice Taylor, who's seen weird

1292
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:13,920
things on plane. It could be that when you're above

1293
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:16,239
certain altitude and you're above because when you when you

1294
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:19,159
get up to a cruisan alsoda thirty five feet thirty

1295
01:03:19,239 --> 01:03:22,119
nine thousand feet, ninety percent of the Earth's atmosphere is

1296
01:03:22,159 --> 01:03:26,360
below you. Yes, because it's very it's very cold. You

1297
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,119
can't breathe unless you're be of the cabin's pressurized. Yeah,

1298
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:31,639
because you're in your universu you breathe it you're inside

1299
01:03:31,639 --> 01:03:36,039
the pressurized cabin of an aircraft. It was simply, but

1300
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,559
it could be the other world. You're in an area

1301
01:03:39,559 --> 01:03:41,920
where humans are not meant to be, and it could

1302
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,119
be there are other intelligences that are all that realm

1303
01:03:44,519 --> 01:03:46,440
because you're halfway between the ground and the space.

1304
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:50,519
Speaker 3: That's what your friend Nick Lisab and Nick spoke about

1305
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:54,719
the Nicky days Visible vis Yeah.

1306
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,519
Speaker 1: These we's been studying the trees that live in the

1307
01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:58,559
air in the sky, some of them are invisible. And

1308
01:03:58,639 --> 01:04:03,719
also that's where that's where it's maybe UFOs of presidents

1309
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,400
And indeed, it's it's kind of like another it is

1310
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:11,639
another world. And indeed there's a plain radiation levels higher

1311
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:14,920
from the sun and cosmic race. Yeah, and indeed stewardess

1312
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,159
is who are pregnant and told like you you you can't.

1313
01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:20,159
They they had to take leave very early in the

1314
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:23,920
first tromester because they're they're other altitude that the radiation

1315
01:04:24,039 --> 01:04:27,320
can damage the developing air embryo. Yeah. Yeah, because and

1316
01:04:27,679 --> 01:04:31,599
people who fly regularly, you know, they could sufferm radiation

1317
01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:34,719
effects and put pilots and canary Yeah. Yeah, they do

1318
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:38,480
say to pilots that I can't remember what the rules

1319
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,760
are now, but it's like they will only do so

1320
01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,079
many flights per year or something because they are about

1321
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,719
they get five or six times more radiation in the

1322
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,519
average person on the street. So, PRIs you how many

1323
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:52,079
pilots are will woos? Yeah, Bruce a Cafe is a

1324
01:04:52,119 --> 01:04:56,440
good example. Here's a New Zealand airline pilot who actually

1325
01:04:56,519 --> 01:04:59,639
saw many UFOs and came up with a He also

1326
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,400
a note of where he saw them, and he came

1327
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,000
out the fascinating idea about where they appear in terms

1328
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:08,360
of lay lines and things. One else interesting Monica's don't trap. Yeah.

1329
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:14,360
Monica's family comes from Belgium and we only found this

1330
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:17,239
out last year having a chat with some fellow family

1331
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,320
manuals that one of the people. Oh my god, one

1332
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,679
of the people could selection there, Malca. It's a green rat,

1333
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:28,039
isn't it. Yeah, that's an incredible hull craz He's got

1334
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:30,079
a tail. It's weird. But what is that?

1335
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:31,639
Speaker 4: What is it?

1336
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 1: That's oh yeah, and it's my sister. Please do yeah,

1337
01:05:36,519 --> 01:05:44,079
it's actually tell me what it is. So basically, so yeah,

1338
01:05:44,159 --> 01:05:47,519
the an airline pilot in Monica's side of the family

1339
01:05:47,599 --> 01:05:49,719
based in Belgium, I currently have men interest in UFOs

1340
01:05:49,719 --> 01:05:52,719
because they were seeing him all the time whenever marshes

1341
01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:56,320
flap didn't they yeah, yeah, s it's a Belgium hot

1342
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,480
topic and UFO activity here. So he was seeing these

1343
01:06:00,559 --> 01:06:03,519
UFOs which just to name the yard, it's Uncle or

1344
01:06:03,559 --> 01:06:08,039
whever it was, there's a fire that John, Uncle John,

1345
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:12,880
Uncle John. But he felt, yeah, and it's going to

1346
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,519
be seeing the UFOs. He had an interest to you,

1347
01:06:15,840 --> 01:06:19,039
I believe, I don't he had the interest in his

1348
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,039
name saying he said he saw those, are you yeah, yeah,

1349
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,559
but they don't report. But there was a guy that

1350
01:06:26,679 --> 01:06:29,480
was trying to Albany like Albany air Lies or something.

1351
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:33,119
Ray Boyer, Yeah, and he saw them, but all the

1352
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:36,440
passengers saw yeah these was it two UFOs? So there

1353
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:38,679
was there were two. I think it was commonly how many,

1354
01:06:38,719 --> 01:06:41,199
but there were. He's grown to be very large, he said,

1355
01:06:41,239 --> 01:06:44,719
there were. They were cigar shaped objects and yellow yellow

1356
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,519
black stripes or something. And he said, but because he's

1357
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,239
he said he could judge very carefully because of the

1358
01:06:50,599 --> 01:06:54,320
he knew where basically the background clouds and things were.

1359
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,480
He knew how base roughly, its range. Therefore we could

1360
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:59,800
work out on its size. And he said it was

1361
01:07:00,119 --> 01:07:02,920
really big, thousands of feet across, very one of the

1362
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:06,239
large Stark aircraft ever built is the Hindenburg airship. I

1363
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:09,840
was eight more than five feet long, which blew up

1364
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:14,320
very famously and oh yeah New Jersey seven. Yeah that

1365
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:18,440
was and but that was they never after that happened. No,

1366
01:07:18,719 --> 01:07:21,000
no one ever built an airship that big again, So

1367
01:07:21,559 --> 01:07:24,119
what is it then? What was what was he seeing? Yeah?

1368
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 3: I was turning Ben earlier and you probably can't use

1369
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,360
this bit unfortunately. But my brother, my younger brother, is

1370
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:32,800
a pilot in the r F and he works on

1371
01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,000
the Royal Flight, so he flies the King most days

1372
01:07:35,039 --> 01:07:39,360
of the Prime Minister and has an air of superiority

1373
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,480
to go with it. But he's interested in UFOs, but

1374
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:47,000
he's always watching TV shows, but he will never tell me.

1375
01:07:48,199 --> 01:07:51,960
And when all the stuff was happening with the drones aside,

1376
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,039
he just couldn't saying that it's I kind of tried

1377
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:56,639
to chat.

1378
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,320
Speaker 1: With them about it. Maybe he's worried that like a

1379
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,639
word to get out and can be able say. The

1380
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:04,119
only thing he told me, which I think I told you,

1381
01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:08,119
guys are there. He knows where they are, yeah, yeah, no, no.

1382
01:08:08,239 --> 01:08:11,039
Speaker 3: This is another He was telling me that they keep

1383
01:08:11,159 --> 01:08:17,279
seeing drones up out did what's what they called a

1384
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:21,000
cruisy aptitude only five thousand per Yeah, and these are

1385
01:08:21,119 --> 01:08:24,479
commercial drones will be like, uh, decals, I'm gonna have

1386
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:29,000
flashes and stuff. So somebody is flying what we consider

1387
01:08:29,079 --> 01:08:31,920
to be drones my barhead, but they have versions that

1388
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,439
they could fly up under the higher the hell is going.

1389
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's this. This is like my my interview

1390
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,319
with Todd Curtis, which I did on a last show

1391
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:44,600
for last If people are doing that, then oh shit,

1392
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,279
that's a hazard. That's traffic. You could have a collision

1393
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:51,920
which could result in depth. Yeah. Oh yeah, sorry, that's right.

1394
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,720
I was just going to say that if anyone who

1395
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,239
denies that that that there's a UFO problem, and some

1396
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,760
explain you to do, because clearly there is, and I

1397
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:03,319
mean anyone who's honest, but ives Todd has set up

1398
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:05,680
an entire fools of the air detectives. He's a pilot

1399
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:08,600
and his friends are pilots, and they and they're concerned

1400
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:12,319
about their safety of themselves and their passages. Yeah. And

1401
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:14,319
is that scene in Coaching Calendars, you know, the very

1402
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:15,880
I think it's the second the field scene in the

1403
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,560
film where there's in the air traffic control room. That's right. Yeah,

1404
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,439
And they object appears, and then you know they can

1405
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,479
see it on prime and radar. The highlights are saying

1406
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,039
they can see it. At the end they said, you

1407
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:27,760
want to report a UFO, and the pilots also and

1408
01:09:29,039 --> 01:09:32,960
let's scared again in the treadle. Sorry, Gary, you have

1409
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:33,399
gone sack.

1410
01:09:33,479 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 3: We're going to say, yeah, you reminded me of the thing,

1411
01:09:36,039 --> 01:09:39,000
the story when their brothers told me that we know

1412
01:09:39,119 --> 01:09:39,560
what they are.

1413
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: We don't know. No, we don't know what they are.

1414
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:43,079
We know where to go to see that.

1415
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:46,840
Speaker 3: So when I live with my grandmother in Henry Henstead,

1416
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:49,520
we had you know, the classic three story houses of.

1417
01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:56,399
Speaker 1: Growth warming stuff up, warmings, don't I think UFO? Yeah thing, yeah.

1418
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:01,000
So one evening in the summer, I'm looking out the

1419
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:02,119
window and on the farm and I.

1420
01:10:02,199 --> 01:10:05,640
Speaker 3: Seek some floating towards the house. And this is the

1421
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,159
story I told apparently a big dad. And it was

1422
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:12,840
like a carbon fiber ball about miss be floating over

1423
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,640
the top of the house. And so I called my

1424
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,640
grandmother to have a lot. By the time she got

1425
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:18,680
up the stairs, it was over the other side of

1426
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,279
the house. We had to run to the other window

1427
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,199
and we watched this thing. It looked like it was

1428
01:10:22,239 --> 01:10:25,800
spinning like that, just going a straight line across the

1429
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,000
countryside to loot An air Quart Boratu.

1430
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my brother did say to me, ye, we

1431
01:10:31,159 --> 01:10:32,600
know about so he said that.

1432
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,159
Speaker 3: I mean he had a girlfriend at Timp called Kirsty.

1433
01:10:35,239 --> 01:10:37,279
He said, we know where to go and see them.

1434
01:10:37,319 --> 01:10:39,880
He said, I've been tad to Kirsty there and he said,

1435
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,439
but we don't know what they are not And this

1436
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:46,960
is the weirdism. And that the same fly where I

1437
01:10:47,039 --> 01:10:51,600
stood a Virgin Mary, not on the same exact fly,

1438
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:54,520
but on that route and the same plane. I once

1439
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,720
looked out the window after seeing that thing with my

1440
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,439
grandmother and England and saw one of those things out

1441
01:11:00,439 --> 01:11:02,920
of the window, the vane to the left side, in

1442
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,920
between Fusta fidel riots.

1443
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: So what the hell is that? What was you? Roughly

1444
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,000
at that point today, I guess that would be how

1445
01:11:12,119 --> 01:11:13,800
high do you think the plane would go? If there's

1446
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,720
a one hour flight in the cruising thirty five thousand feet?

1447
01:11:16,840 --> 01:11:19,800
Normally there's lower after for there's twenty thousand.

1448
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 3: If it's propped, you you were above the weather because

1449
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,720
it was a short plane and so it's all like

1450
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:25,720
twenty thousand feet.

1451
01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 1: I would say it because there's got to be oxygen

1452
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,800
for the plane to provide thrust the engine or something.

1453
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:33,239
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1454
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:40,399
Speaker 3: Hutitute them quite some time, but from the plane overtook yeah,

1455
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:45,079
and all or maybe it win obviously yeah, wow, and

1456
01:11:45,159 --> 01:11:48,720
it did to be the same texture code size is

1457
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:49,880
what I've seen in my dream.

1458
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Brolly and philippkin Seller saw a sphere with their grandmother

1459
01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:59,640
and it came down into the macgarden and they said, Grandma,

1460
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,560
what's that And she didn't obviously know what to say,

1461
01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:05,199
so she said something like, oh, the fairies, they just

1462
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:08,399
come up to check season. You're okay. Ronie was telling

1463
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,279
us about that when last briskness, Yes, that's right, and

1464
01:12:11,359 --> 01:12:13,239
then it flew up over the roof of the houses.

1465
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:15,760
Anything that's the empty tube in the sphere, that's just

1466
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,960
a fierce So it was figured about that. I bitched

1467
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,720
this on the on their last gym last night, that's right.

1468
01:12:22,079 --> 01:12:23,720
A couple of months ago there was like so people

1469
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,439
who saw a metallic spherical object flying over at the

1470
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,039
town of Booga in Colombia. It was filmed scroofy there

1471
01:12:30,039 --> 01:12:31,960
and suddenly they filmed coming down the ground and then

1472
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,119
the next shot is them seeing this thing lying in

1473
01:12:34,199 --> 01:12:36,439
these bushes, and then that was the end of it.

1474
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:38,520
No one heard anything else. And now the last couple

1475
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,840
of days so people have come forward saying, well, this

1476
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,520
is the actual sphere and they show it holding up

1477
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,079
this big metallic sphere and it has like is these

1478
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,600
symbols on it and aren't work and even what looks

1479
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,560
like some kind of uh text or something on it,

1480
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:53,840
like like cling on with or something, and it's like,

1481
01:12:55,079 --> 01:12:57,520
I Masana force has jumped on top of it. You

1482
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:59,800
can't keep him are a voy was busy with the

1483
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:05,359
area that he discovered. Heimie is like he's an absolute maniac.

1484
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,840
I mean, he's like me on steroids. He really is.

1485
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:14,880
And but I mean I practice fake, but I might

1486
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,560
be wrong. I suspect it's fake. I specially may they

1487
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,479
just break the sphere. They've done some artwork on it,

1488
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:24,000
and he looks like crops for the symbolism and some

1489
01:13:24,279 --> 01:13:27,159
fantastic discovery Almost weekly, hasn't he because he's got a

1490
01:13:27,199 --> 01:13:30,560
weekly show? Yeah, I mean, unfortunately can't get English subtitles

1491
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,279
for it. But I do sort of know what he's

1492
01:13:33,319 --> 01:13:38,800
talking about because I'm I've watched like others. I know

1493
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,439
about the case that he talks about because there's other

1494
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,119
videos out though. Yeah, and you know the guy is

1495
01:13:43,239 --> 01:13:50,039
just like he really is like the probably obsessive always

1496
01:13:50,079 --> 01:13:52,399
looking for the next fantas thing, and they don't have

1497
01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,239
a quality control. He doesn't filter. Unforcire highe he was

1498
01:13:55,279 --> 01:13:57,159
just he doesn't. I mean some of the cases he

1499
01:13:57,199 --> 01:14:00,399
investigates really are significant, but others he's just jumps on

1500
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,399
some bandbagers, like there's ridiculous mummy things. Yeah, that was

1501
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,920
obviously fun. I mean Steve Mehra did did the field

1502
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,279
research into that and which heini didn't. He said, look,

1503
01:14:08,319 --> 01:14:10,960
these are these are simply fake. They're just they just

1504
01:14:11,079 --> 01:14:13,840
created our old died death cards. Upon I don't know

1505
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,479
as much as we wanted the thing, yeah, well sitting

1506
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:21,079
them being real, because it'd be great, But as soon

1507
01:14:21,119 --> 01:14:24,319
as I saw them, they didn't look convincing. These alien

1508
01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:26,840
mummy these are animal and these are high human anal

1509
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,039
scrambles from graves. Yeah, and someone decided like create these

1510
01:14:31,159 --> 01:14:33,560
fake mummies that they then sealing, they sell them for

1511
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:37,920
a huge amount of there's actually black marketing fake antickles, snippers.

1512
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:40,399
Speaker 3: Spools on this same habit listening to you being the

1513
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,960
but he is bad from YouTube, got so many people

1514
01:14:44,039 --> 01:14:44,600
get I mean I'm not.

1515
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:48,319
Speaker 1: I'll get back when about a dozen videos and they've

1516
01:14:48,399 --> 01:14:51,840
just been take ore, there's been removed all the information

1517
01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:56,439
of various kinds. He hates spiritually thoughts or you know,

1518
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,159
they have to wander where it's the print. But YouTube,

1519
01:14:59,279 --> 01:15:02,119
Bree and ev, well, YouTube is just I mean, unless

1520
01:15:02,119 --> 01:15:05,640
they can like some Elon must partakes them over, they're

1521
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:09,600
just gonna it's just gonna be sound the boring mainstream

1522
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:13,119
like main media. And as a result, like if you're

1523
01:15:13,119 --> 01:15:14,760
a businessman, you know you wouldn't want to do that

1524
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:19,479
because it's it's like essentially it's a detrimtery. Your own

1525
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:23,800
conspiracy cat videos of mainstream news may cut your tools

1526
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:26,199
possibly that mainstream news and that's done on that and

1527
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,279
all the interesting stuff will go elsewhere. Just of course,

1528
01:15:29,279 --> 01:15:31,279
if you were surprise running YouTube, I say, what are

1529
01:15:31,359 --> 01:15:33,680
you doing this? Why am I throwing away good business

1530
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,479
like this? Why am I ruining my own prosperities?

1531
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: There as somebody further up the pyramid that Chelse, unless

1532
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:43,760
I'm I'm actually obeying and higher authority that their instructions

1533
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:45,239
I value more than profit.

1534
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:48,079
Speaker 1: It takes an awful light for like a successful businessman

1535
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:50,840
to value something more than profit. I mean that's the

1536
01:15:51,119 --> 01:15:52,880
purpose of profit is you have to have profits. You

1537
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:58,279
earn a living control. You collapse without profit. Yeahs for

1538
01:15:58,359 --> 01:16:01,479
the business is to earn fit. That's and this is

1539
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:05,840
a charity. So charities don't earn profit. Well yeah apparently,

1540
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:09,800
but the YouTube is not something. It's no charity. So

1541
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,640
I don't know. I mean it's saying there's a Facebook.

1542
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,439
I mean, I think it's just that Burbs actually a

1543
01:16:14,439 --> 01:16:19,239
backtracked a little bit lately. This is probably yeah, but

1544
01:16:19,399 --> 01:16:21,319
I mean I still have to use this silly relay

1545
01:16:21,359 --> 01:16:23,239
you know where I've put any of my things on Facebook.

1546
01:16:23,279 --> 01:16:27,119
But just it's still my pages still banned. He is stupid.

1547
01:16:27,960 --> 01:16:31,239
So they don't like you list in your blogs or

1548
01:16:31,319 --> 01:16:35,439
your videos or my put from hbw A all no

1549
01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:41,359
others are banned. That's weirde And but that issue hospital

1550
01:16:41,399 --> 01:16:44,560
pause against the new Ospel Paus Welfare Association. Yeah, that's

1551
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,399
hey discribed it. They started scanning the actual articles for

1552
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:52,520
links and so like I have to add the links afterwards.

1553
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:54,560
Whether there was a palm post and sorry about the

1554
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:59,319
funeral over that, chucking the gravel over the coffin. Please, yeah,

1555
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,760
what do you want when you're having the ship, isn't it? Yes?

1556
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 3: Why?

1557
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 1: I just sometimes wonder if I have someone's watching me.

1558
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,359
I stant In Caradough, But even my my shadow banning

1559
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:14,520
is getting really intense. I mean I was on my

1560
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,199
live stream last story. I had nineteen viewers news At

1561
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:19,479
one point I had more people commenting than I had viewers.

1562
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,039
You know, he's just say saying Forsk.

1563
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,119
Speaker 3: Hunted the usteners to like under a hundred pre each

1564
01:17:28,239 --> 01:17:31,199
video can't be real, may except very well.

1565
01:17:31,319 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 1: Subscriber basis quite large. They are just this they put

1566
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:37,840
give me fake starts. A blogger is the same to me.

1567
01:17:38,119 --> 01:17:40,239
All my almost had the same number of staffs. It

1568
01:17:40,279 --> 01:17:42,119
goes up to my twenty five is into runny higher,

1569
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,439
he goes, I want up one review per day after that,

1570
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,960
And even when I did, I deliberately didn't share an

1571
01:17:48,039 --> 01:17:50,279
article on social media to see what happened. Yeah, the

1572
01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:52,600
same thing happened. Yeah, same number of people saw it.

1573
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,159
That doesn't make sense when I'm not sharing it. Yeah, yeah,

1574
01:17:55,239 --> 01:17:57,439
it doesn't make sense at all. You have the same

1575
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,279
number of people saying, yeah, same people, that's not real.

1576
01:18:01,359 --> 01:18:04,239
Those not real stats. That's the thing in our real starts. Yeah,

1577
01:18:08,399 --> 01:18:13,119
so your large T shirt bend, But that made by

1578
01:18:13,239 --> 01:18:17,479
you because you at the lard at the conference or

1579
01:18:19,119 --> 01:18:22,000
the one x you won the Yeah, it was on

1580
01:18:22,079 --> 01:18:24,720
the one occasion. I've done the lard eating conversation now

1581
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:29,000
five times so far. As I've already got one challenge,

1582
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:32,159
here's another go for Ben. He's won four terms. In

1583
01:18:32,199 --> 01:18:35,520
the most recent I won one year. Yeah, I think

1584
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:36,640
i'd have won.

1585
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 3: The rare book about cricktids in England, the Century some

1586
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:44,199
by Richard Freeman Order provided like a bread in the book.

1587
01:18:44,319 --> 01:18:46,079
Speaker 1: He is insane. I had a little bit an online.

1588
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:48,159
Speaker 3: I can't remember what the book is called, but it's

1589
01:18:48,199 --> 01:18:53,560
a book about strange animals which were recorded in England throughout.

1590
01:18:53,399 --> 01:18:55,279
Speaker 1: History for which we have no record.

1591
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 3: And there were stories about some kind of lizard creature

1592
01:19:00,119 --> 01:19:03,560
about quite seriously that people would encounter in the woods

1593
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:05,880
in Indians, and I think it said that they would

1594
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,760
be safe if they were in a person carriage.

1595
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:12,600
Speaker 1: You have heard of them and someone liking it to

1596
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:16,880
the being in Star Wars, the things in the well.

1597
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:19,199
Speaker 3: There's lizard thee so that they drive around in the

1598
01:19:19,239 --> 01:19:22,000
desert with dubecs or blurred.

1599
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:26,239
Speaker 1: I know we've got kind of dinosaurs in your style

1600
01:19:26,319 --> 01:19:26,520
with that.

1601
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:31,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean there are the things we talk about,

1602
01:19:31,119 --> 01:19:32,560
the things you used to read about about who Woo

1603
01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:35,239
encounters and stuff like that. They go back through our

1604
01:19:35,359 --> 01:19:38,000
history and they've been seen by people that see, she's

1605
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:38,680
something perennial.

1606
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: Actually, Yeah, for our history. You find your thought of

1607
01:19:42,079 --> 01:19:45,840
people counting counting beingside this, they'll lose different names depending

1608
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:49,520
on the culture. Like in the past they didn't say aliens,

1609
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:53,760
they said would say fairies or sprites. Listen to the

1610
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:56,640
description of them. They're pretty much the same and the

1611
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,239
same as what people encounter now.

1612
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,159
Speaker 3: Just written from a different world viewed at the time.

1613
01:20:01,399 --> 01:20:04,680
Might have you heard about the palais different menophorosia? Yeah,

1614
01:20:05,159 --> 01:20:08,399
but supposedly maybe I heard this from one of your

1615
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:10,760
tools or maybe from one of yours now, someone who

1616
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:13,920
had access to some text in the Vatica that were

1617
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:15,439
related to Angeli Chara.

1618
01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,840
Speaker 7: And when she actually read them in their originally form,

1619
01:20:19,319 --> 01:20:24,079
she was reading what sounded exactly like modern day abduction

1620
01:20:24,199 --> 01:20:29,239
phenomen and she assumed that they had rewritten them as

1621
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:32,039
Cherubim and Angel's the mother.

1622
01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:36,399
Speaker 1: This whole scenario to fit in for the whole Fatima

1623
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:41,359
incident is now looked upon as a possible alien encounter.

1624
01:20:41,399 --> 01:20:43,680
I think all the Marian apparitions is unique because it

1625
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:47,880
has independent witnesses. Yeah. Yeah, Apparently the photograph of the

1626
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,279
sun as they called it, the second son a period dear,

1627
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:54,640
when you know no one found it rages this image

1628
01:20:55,319 --> 01:20:57,479
and it did surface many years later on the Internet.

1629
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,479
So whether maybe suppressed it.

1630
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,359
Speaker 3: You've got to imagine the Church control in the information

1631
01:21:04,479 --> 01:21:09,039
in the abits to suit the narrative of this, to

1632
01:21:09,119 --> 01:21:11,079
suit the narrative that they sell to the people that

1633
01:21:11,199 --> 01:21:12,800
so do God in the world.

1634
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: Well, it makes me wonder that now you've got an

1635
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:18,840
American poking and could he be c I a plant it?

1636
01:21:20,319 --> 01:21:22,279
I mean they were the new Poke Cobleo or the

1637
01:21:22,319 --> 01:21:26,359
fourteenth who was like selected a couple of days. So,

1638
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:30,760
I mean I did a whole life m varium last night.

1639
01:21:30,760 --> 01:21:32,520
He's still a bit of an unknown quantity. We don't

1640
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,640
know exactly idea to represent this. We know he's appointed

1641
01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:37,960
by both Francis the card Wall, so it's quite a

1642
01:21:38,039 --> 01:21:42,399
recent arrival. In there in the Roman establishments Burch service.

1643
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:48,359
You see the possibility or whether or whether you know

1644
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:51,000
these better lot of time, you can imagine there is

1645
01:21:51,079 --> 01:21:54,520
Pope part he's got an absolute Mattie radio mask hidden

1646
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:59,119
on their transmitting directly back to you know the securities

1647
01:21:59,159 --> 01:22:01,279
who know I mean, and of course that obviously poke

1648
01:22:01,359 --> 01:22:03,720
is a very very He has no political authority, but

1649
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,680
obviously there was indevidly beginning political issues because he's one

1650
01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,439
of those powerful men in the world. I mean, it's

1651
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,279
not because he holds the office is political, but because

1652
01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:15,119
he had he commands the authority to so many people

1653
01:22:15,199 --> 01:22:17,840
and such a huge institution, but the oldest and largest

1654
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,159
institution on Earth, and that's that is quite something. Yeah,

1655
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:26,000
And I mean the fact that he's American. I mean,

1656
01:22:26,039 --> 01:22:30,840
although he's been most reason only actually in Peru where

1657
01:22:30,920 --> 01:22:35,760
he's also Peruvian. In season he's it is he's I

1658
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,479
know that was Trump and bands that are going to

1659
01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:39,760
really have been really really happy about the fact that

1660
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:43,039
he's an American. And this doesn't mean that he's part

1661
01:22:43,079 --> 01:22:45,279
of the whole seventy bladder thing or anything like that.

1662
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:48,000
That was a thought, that's wish for thinking, you know,

1663
01:22:48,079 --> 01:22:52,079
it doesn't mean that that was happening. But get back

1664
01:22:52,119 --> 01:22:56,199
to the pope being it's well, I say it's true.

1665
01:22:56,239 --> 01:23:00,159
I never actually i've heard your books are pale. The

1666
01:23:00,319 --> 01:23:04,279
fact that they one of the traditions when they're selected

1667
01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:07,680
and checking the coat is that they picked their pope

1668
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:10,680
and that there's a vinyl check. They get the pope

1669
01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:12,760
to sit on the stool that's got a whole rooms. Yes,

1670
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,399
it's like the mode. And this is because they saw

1671
01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:18,159
the pope's a man. To see there's no way you

1672
01:23:18,279 --> 01:23:21,119
know whether that still goes on. I don't know, but

1673
01:23:21,199 --> 01:23:25,520
they were little ages and alleged, well it's true, isn't it?

1674
01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,560
A woman a warman? Was that was actually actually get

1675
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,359
to become the pope a Bailey. But there's a film

1676
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,840
on Netflix the thought, did I remember that a Netflix

1677
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,159
film where this forman became the pope a male impersonator. Yeah, yeah,

1678
01:23:36,239 --> 01:23:39,079
he actually became pope gifts. Of course, we know the

1679
01:23:39,159 --> 01:23:43,840
Catholics only ordained men, so obviously this was declared void

1680
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:46,479
when it was the stubborn, But now I mean leisurely

1681
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:48,800
is that whether they still do it or not, the

1682
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,520
pope has to prove he's and it's it's been undignified.

1683
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,760
I mean those talk about the making athletes do this

1684
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,079
to remember, Yeah, fixt they should drop their trousers in

1685
01:23:57,119 --> 01:23:59,399
front of the judges and just say that this is

1686
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,800
this agenda. He says, right, make a pole vole. But

1687
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:06,880
I don't think I've made the hope. It's like because

1688
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:08,720
there was there was like there was a bit confusion

1689
01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:11,640
over some poodle's gender because of course athletes are and

1690
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,239
they are sort of like slightly and Roger or certainly.

1691
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,520
So you can't just say you identify as pop. Yeah,

1692
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,760
identify as a religious catches through both th that's right,

1693
01:24:22,239 --> 01:24:26,079
but another pope that's to sit down constable allegedly and

1694
01:24:26,319 --> 01:24:28,239
the thing all the calmals wind up and they look

1695
01:24:28,319 --> 01:24:30,520
ik that these dangy bits and they say, yes, that's

1696
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:34,640
what It's all right, you can be both. But those issues,

1697
01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:36,840
I don't know if that's like an urban legend. It

1698
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:38,800
may be an urban legend or in Apria maybe it

1699
01:24:38,840 --> 01:24:40,279
still goes on. And so I think it's one of

1700
01:24:40,319 --> 01:24:43,159
these traditions. This is how it's portrayed. As an audition.

1701
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:45,840
You could do with blood tests and X rays or

1702
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:47,960
what these days are probably done from DNA or some

1703
01:24:48,039 --> 01:24:52,920
bene cut out liddle and literally cut out straight through

1704
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,239
it with the steward. I think that's why they have

1705
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:58,720
because that desperate to me. I hope they would actually

1706
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:04,880
do that. I mean, you know, yeah, but it's I mean,

1707
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,159
the thing about the Pope the paps is the Vatican

1708
01:25:07,399 --> 01:25:10,399
has a library and there's apparently according the gire wallh Pasalta,

1709
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,520
there are fifty miles of corridors and it's all underneath.

1710
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:15,840
You say, where they bus the Vatican's only like a

1711
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:18,840
couple hundred yards across. It's such a tiny steak. It's

1712
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,199
underground a lot. It's underground. Yeah, it goes down like

1713
01:25:22,359 --> 01:25:25,239
thousands of feet, and they got like and there's all

1714
01:25:25,319 --> 01:25:27,439
kinds of rumors about what might be down there. We

1715
01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,199
know that they took documents from the various places around

1716
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:33,640
the world where they had missionaries. One of the jobs

1717
01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:36,439
of the missionaries all over the world was to gather evidence,

1718
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:39,880
kept black loop colleading send it back to the Vatican.

1719
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 11: And you think about it, anything is supernaturue related that

1720
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,880
goes against the narrative of the capric Church that the

1721
01:25:49,159 --> 01:25:50,960
s Elien would be locked away.

1722
01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,000
Speaker 1: As rumours that the Third the real third secret of

1723
01:25:54,119 --> 01:25:56,319
fat and that was never revealed, and they then the

1724
01:25:56,399 --> 01:25:58,640
Pope took put out in two thousand. It is supposedly

1725
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:01,960
revealed it assassinate of course, but lord, this is what

1726
01:26:02,039 --> 01:26:05,119
it is. Pope Sean Paul the first wars died until

1727
01:26:05,199 --> 01:26:08,560
just thirty three days, yes, which I mentioned Arsen, Yeah, Arstreet.

1728
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,239
And then he's replaced by Pope John Paul the second,

1729
01:26:11,319 --> 01:26:13,359
who was actually a very long rainy pope. He actually

1730
01:26:13,399 --> 01:26:17,399
went to ninete seventy eight twenty twenty. Well it was

1731
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:21,039
Benedict came along twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen where it was.

1732
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:24,840
And then of course then he had abdicated, which is

1733
01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,600
very unusual for a poet to abkay. He died in

1734
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,279
twenty and twenty two. Yeah, very unusual for a poacher.

1735
01:26:29,479 --> 01:26:32,359
Popsole was always dying office. Yes, he is only the

1736
01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:35,439
second pope PayPal obligation in the history window. And then

1737
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:39,119
they have Francis and then and then of course Danny

1738
01:26:39,359 --> 01:26:41,359
to Leo. And the thing about it is that there

1739
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:46,239
is the pope. This is what Danny Shean's talking about.

1740
01:26:46,279 --> 01:26:49,159
It could be the Vatican will be the disclosure nation. Yeah,

1741
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:51,960
and it's old because small countries seemed to be the

1742
01:26:52,119 --> 01:26:54,960
devance in the most opiensist because all all the major

1743
01:26:55,199 --> 01:26:57,520
exopolitical initiatives over the last few years that come from

1744
01:26:57,560 --> 01:27:00,880
these little, tiny countries, these micro nations such as Brenada,

1745
01:27:01,239 --> 01:27:03,960
an island in the Caribbean ten miles across Sir Erengary.

1746
01:27:05,199 --> 01:27:08,920
And where's the where's the biggest UFO conference today? Sam

1747
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,800
Marino again to many little you know Enclague inside Italy?

1748
01:27:14,159 --> 01:27:16,680
Is that right? Sat Marina is a big UFO conference.

1749
01:27:17,239 --> 01:27:19,359
It's good. It's a It's a nation. You could rob

1750
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:22,600
a cross and froight in like in an hour and

1751
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:25,880
a half. You know, it's a small nation. And so

1752
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:27,960
maybe the Vatican could be the disclosure nation, and we

1753
01:27:28,079 --> 01:27:32,399
know they have the nation. David Gush mentioned the ninety

1754
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:37,000
thirty three Magenta UFO crash and then the skeptics in

1755
01:27:37,039 --> 01:27:39,279
the backslappers, we're going, it's not real. It's not real

1756
01:27:39,359 --> 01:27:41,399
because they listened to Rush and they looked on skeptics

1757
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:43,720
and what they said about it, but they didn't read

1758
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:47,479
the document, the original documents which were gathered by reverse Openanti.

1759
01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:51,039
He wrote an art couple of it's like a book

1760
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:55,680
or booklet or Camphlic called the Fascist UFO files. Sounds dramatic,

1761
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,760
but it refers to the r S thirty four is

1762
01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:02,159
in I mean in the early nineteen thirties. But eat

1763
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:06,359
a Mussoli, the fascist dictator he set up. He set

1764
01:28:06,439 --> 01:28:09,720
up RS thirty four, which is the world's first UFO

1765
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,119
Dominican parliament. So this is the arrow or of nick

1766
01:28:13,159 --> 01:28:16,960
posts UFO desk many many years earlier. And in our

1767
01:28:17,079 --> 01:28:19,840
thirty three in Magenta, which is just outside Milan, actually

1768
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:24,359
in Lombardy, there was a legendre which was covered up.

1769
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,239
Is a typical Boswell thing, although it was like this

1770
01:28:27,399 --> 01:28:30,880
was over a decade before Roswald's fifteen years of Roosevelt Wall.

1771
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:34,760
There was this. There was this UFOs Shenidan they covered

1772
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,600
up now one most Flashi said they fell at the

1773
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,079
end of World War two, after the US invasion. Mussolini

1774
01:28:41,239 --> 01:28:46,000
passed this evidence, including the plash the wret onto the

1775
01:28:46,079 --> 01:28:49,479
Vatica and then the Pope at the time. I think

1776
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:54,479
he was cruel, pious. Bus He then back channeled to

1777
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:56,960
the Americans before the and then there was the invasion.

1778
01:28:57,039 --> 01:28:58,880
Then the invasion happened, and I wonder if they kept

1779
01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:03,199
anything said there must be records they see, because then,

1780
01:29:03,199 --> 01:29:05,079
of course Muscoline was then killed and hung off. He

1781
01:29:05,159 --> 01:29:07,399
was strong upside down in a petrol station. Four courts,

1782
01:29:09,159 --> 01:29:12,880
but they the records must still be out of the Vatsican. Yeah,

1783
01:29:13,319 --> 01:29:16,800
it could be that the new Pope knows this, and

1784
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,600
therefore he could decide to go public. He could do

1785
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:21,159
the disclosures. They could say, well, yeah, there was a

1786
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:24,920
crash breaming in ninety thirty three. It's so I'm fascinated

1787
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:26,920
to find out Danny Shean has gone into an interviewing

1788
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:31,560
news nation or around. Yeah, really interesting stuff. And it

1789
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:35,399
is incredible, incredible, funny enough to talk about Mussolini being

1790
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,600
hung upside down. I didn't know he's in a petrol station.

1791
01:29:39,119 --> 01:29:42,760
It's pretty could They was britting. But my granddad said,

1792
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,600
who was in his second one was war. He's a

1793
01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:48,399
military policeman. He said he saw Mussolini hanging. Now. When

1794
01:29:48,399 --> 01:29:51,319
I was a kid, I never who knew who MUSCANLINI was.

1795
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,319
I just remember saying, oh, I saw him hanging.

1796
01:29:54,119 --> 01:29:54,239
Speaker 6: Now.

1797
01:29:54,279 --> 01:29:56,520
Speaker 1: I never knew until all these years later that he

1798
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:58,920
was actually hung upside down. I just just hang him

1799
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,520
by the neck. Yeah, But then I've read reports that

1800
01:30:01,720 --> 01:30:07,479
not many Westerners or or people outside of Italy were

1801
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,720
aware that he was from upside out until many years

1802
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:13,159
later photos. I don't know how my granddad saw him,

1803
01:30:13,159 --> 01:30:16,079
because he was a military policeman and I understood that

1804
01:30:16,119 --> 01:30:17,800
he went out to Italy, So I don't know how

1805
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,159
he saw him. If if kind of hundredicts the official version,

1806
01:30:21,319 --> 01:30:23,399
I don't know. It just the story I was told.

1807
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,279
Been shooting first, Yeah, didn't they do regularly, just beat

1808
01:30:27,359 --> 01:30:29,840
into death, literally beat him, his sensors out, his wife

1809
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,640
as well. They just beat them senseless and just hung

1810
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,199
it upside down. And there's photographs of it, and and

1811
01:30:34,399 --> 01:30:37,720
it's it's easy to hang out down. There's something slice,

1812
01:30:38,359 --> 01:30:41,840
isn't there. It's a clearly de humanized secretion. Yeah. Yeah,

1813
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:43,880
sounds think it's like a mafia thing. There's a definite

1814
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:48,279
under it's as sacrosis. It's not just hanging, it's punishing

1815
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,079
the sided down. It's a reversal of the previous order

1816
01:30:52,159 --> 01:30:54,640
or so their pockets and they can get some change. Yeah,

1817
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,760
there's a lot of change coming out and in his pocket. Well,

1818
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:01,279
I mean, ohously are It's just like in Germany the

1819
01:31:01,319 --> 01:31:05,720
other places the Allies plunder the vanquished access powers. Yeah,

1820
01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:09,159
and for everything, including like scientists and things like that.

1821
01:31:09,560 --> 01:31:12,880
Hands probably for Aper Clitter, Yeah, and people like Venevon

1822
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,119
Brown and Hands Candler and the sub question vernevon Brown

1823
01:31:16,199 --> 01:31:18,720
operated to really openly in the US under his own name,

1824
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:22,319
is he usally got away? It's more crime's record. I

1825
01:31:22,359 --> 01:31:24,479
mean literally that guy should be hanged at Urreinberg because

1826
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,399
he was literally firing ballistic missiles of London.

1827
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is a which is a war cry, gennearios

1828
01:31:30,600 --> 01:31:32,720
a showing what's really important if you had Howard's the

1829
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,720
b Yeah, not justice or protection of their own people.

1830
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:40,279
Speaker 1: And they're out their friends. Yeah, but to harness and power, Yeah,

1831
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:42,960
said they can have the biggest stick if someone's if

1832
01:31:43,000 --> 01:31:44,960
someone is useful, they will they would use them and

1833
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,359
they completely and ignore them, and yeah, like cleaning their record. Yeah,

1834
01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:51,920
it's like soy Saddam saying, you know that all the

1835
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,159
trouble they went to get it. But then you know

1836
01:31:54,319 --> 01:31:56,479
nine eighty three he was in the US shaking as

1837
01:31:56,520 --> 01:31:58,279
with Donal's runs frog and of course my soul, why

1838
01:31:58,279 --> 01:32:00,479
don't they just grab him then, say all the mother

1839
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,960
But of course they didn't because he was useful vernevon

1840
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,720
Brown was useful to this. I mean the the rocket,

1841
01:32:06,199 --> 01:32:10,159
the lunar was supposed lunar rockets. The satur five were

1842
01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:13,680
based on those original V two missiles. He is the

1843
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:18,000
world's first ballistic missiles liquid field rockets.

1844
01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:18,319
Speaker 3: And.

1845
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:22,439
Speaker 1: And he was beastly. He's bascially used and a hands

1846
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:24,720
camera ended up in the US under a fake name

1847
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,199
long with several other people. Right, so it's yeah, it's

1848
01:32:28,199 --> 01:32:31,760
all right. And because he was involved in anti gravity research,

1849
01:32:32,239 --> 01:32:33,359
and recently I've had.

1850
01:32:33,319 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 3: An urge to do that, Like my joints kind of

1851
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:38,279
been uncomfortable, so the only way to relieve it is

1852
01:32:38,359 --> 01:32:43,119
just a snap them into place, set them.

1853
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:49,319
Speaker 1: We'll see. He's good banging it on this on the

1854
01:32:49,399 --> 01:32:52,640
door and something. Sorry, I should just say that. Yeah,

1855
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:56,680
Hans Camera was invited in anti gravity, social into anti

1856
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:58,920
gravity and things like that. He was running this thing

1857
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:03,119
called the Winstor's Flash Mine, which is like in Poland

1858
01:33:03,239 --> 01:33:05,039
there was just this mind where they were developing these

1859
01:33:05,079 --> 01:33:10,520
anti gravity crafts through the bell and oh yeah yeah,

1860
01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,560
and that was at the end of the war. They

1861
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:17,199
actually actually blew up the entrance to the mine and

1862
01:33:17,319 --> 01:33:21,079
buried just in the and they just saved everything still

1863
01:33:21,079 --> 01:33:23,560
in there. They it's still in there, and all we

1864
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:24,880
know it's still in there to this day. I mean

1865
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:27,239
it could be dug out, that's what they said. But

1866
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:31,119
I can't seem turn down an opportunity to grabble that. Yeah,

1867
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,039
you can take everything first, but the real price is

1868
01:33:35,079 --> 01:33:37,159
not the hard ware they were developing the laboratories, it's

1869
01:33:37,199 --> 01:33:40,000
that it's then it's them people were designing it because

1870
01:33:40,039 --> 01:33:42,800
they can make their giants, their papers, their their their

1871
01:33:43,119 --> 01:33:45,039
their thoughts, their feeds, their papers and stuff like that.

1872
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:48,279
Maybe they was taking maybe they took some bits, Yeah,

1873
01:33:48,520 --> 01:33:51,880
buried a lot of it discovery. But it'd be very

1874
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,680
easy once once Camlo was in there in their grasp,

1875
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:56,000
and they would say to him, well, you've got to

1876
01:33:56,039 --> 01:33:58,600
work for us, and he would say, if you don't,

1877
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,960
you got a Nuremberg and we'll expose. He would have

1878
01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:03,560
had no choice. He essentially, it's like putting it done

1879
01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,079
to his head. He would have worked for the Americans

1880
01:34:05,119 --> 01:34:08,840
of the Soviets to develop him anyone. Yeah, you'd have

1881
01:34:08,960 --> 01:34:12,079
no choice, and it would be very easy to recreate

1882
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:15,439
the bolstery and build new prototypes. Yeah, yeah, I mean

1883
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,079
maybe that's what the Kecksburg incidental. Did the Kecksburg crash

1884
01:34:18,159 --> 01:34:21,199
is described as like a bell shaped object? Yeah, maybe

1885
01:34:21,239 --> 01:34:23,439
it's that it was that thing. It maybe that rather

1886
01:34:23,439 --> 01:34:27,159
than an extraterrestrial thing. Yeah, that was like a crash

1887
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:30,760
of Trigel in ninetyty five for Ketsburgh, Pennsylvania. Yeah. Right,

1888
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,159
his skeptics say it was a Cosmos satellite. It was not,

1889
01:34:34,279 --> 01:34:36,680
because the Cosmos they were a Cosmos satellites is a

1890
01:34:36,760 --> 01:34:39,279
Soviet satellite. It did come down, but it came down

1891
01:34:39,319 --> 01:34:41,239
in a completely different direction of the wrong time, in

1892
01:34:41,279 --> 01:34:45,399
the wrong place. Talking of Cosmos things, Russian things coming down,

1893
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:49,520
isn't there a Russian Venus crops it's kind of crashed

1894
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:55,000
to her sometime today. Yes, it's a day apparently if Yeah,

1895
01:34:56,079 --> 01:34:57,720
they don't know where it's from the land. Right, that's

1896
01:34:57,720 --> 01:34:59,960
what I said. It took her about I put her

1897
01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:03,439
are on the head headquarters of William Hill. So there's

1898
01:35:03,439 --> 01:35:07,079
one hundred thousand and odd. It's from around nineteen seventy two. Yeah,

1899
01:35:09,119 --> 01:35:10,399
it was going to go to Venus. It was a

1900
01:35:10,479 --> 01:35:12,960
Venus pro and it missed fired and the rocket failed

1901
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:14,800
and it ended up in Earth orbits, which has been

1902
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,000
and it's been there ever since in Earth orbit. Yeah,

1903
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:20,960
but now it's now that the orbit is decayed to

1904
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,640
the point where it's now going to it's now going

1905
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,039
to deorbit. But they don't know exactly where or when.

1906
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,880
Sometimes today they th over Britain or over Europe. It's

1907
01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:32,840
going to be could be anywhere within the fiftieth parallel,

1908
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:35,479
fifty fifth parallel north or south, which is in the

1909
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:41,079
Roseville that's of the world Atlantic or well. I took

1910
01:35:41,119 --> 01:35:42,760
a bet out on the head bards of William Hill

1911
01:35:43,319 --> 01:35:45,239
one hundred thousand and one. I've put a tenner on

1912
01:35:45,359 --> 01:35:46,880
so if it lands there, I'll be very rich. But

1913
01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:49,079
of course that the organization will be destroyed, so I

1914
01:35:49,119 --> 01:35:51,359
won't by to collect. Now you may cacting it after

1915
01:35:51,479 --> 01:35:55,439
it's just showing up now that the thing is ninety

1916
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,359
percent of this area is sea, so they probably come

1917
01:35:57,399 --> 01:35:59,039
down in the sea. If the lands on land, it

1918
01:35:59,039 --> 01:36:00,640
will come down anywhere. It's thing you do about it,

1919
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:03,359
because no one knows exactly well these that moment it'll

1920
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:06,000
like enter. It will be in the ear sature enough

1921
01:36:06,039 --> 01:36:07,880
so it will slow. We do know it will survive

1922
01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,520
re entry because it's it's designed to a survivory entry.

1923
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:14,279
The Venus is ead loss yees the hot dense up

1924
01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:18,079
to venus, so it will definitely it would definitely reach

1925
01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:21,000
ground surface lively who come down, I mean and obviously

1926
01:36:21,039 --> 01:36:23,359
break up once it hits the ground. It's specially a

1927
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:25,760
lever doesn't the weighs a ton that sort will even

1928
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:29,760
a quite crater. Actually, if a lad's in a populated area,

1929
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:32,680
it will do considerable damage. It will. It will bold

1930
01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,800
like a big dots desue. It pulls up a sonny

1931
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:38,800
boom is it into it will, but it will, it will,

1932
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:42,840
it will reach the ground service in tax And it's

1933
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:44,920
just I mean that it's very unlikely or hit a

1934
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,560
populated area. I mean, if you look at them, you'll see,

1935
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:51,840
like coming up emotional world is still uninhabited by humans.

1936
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:55,399
It's really interesting. We think you don't realize we're having

1937
01:36:55,399 --> 01:36:58,239
a density the sorry populated that people who can't have

1938
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,479
here's that's what it has to kill every one with this,

1939
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:02,680
with the vaccines and things like the world is just

1940
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,840
so full up. Yeah, they have to like stop you

1941
01:37:04,840 --> 01:37:06,800
get up a bit of misinss you they do you

1942
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:08,920
near saying I'm going to ask Mark Devin which part

1943
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,479
of the flat earth will this Vedas probe come down. Yes,

1944
01:37:12,680 --> 01:37:14,319
our god. I don't know what Markle's say about this.

1945
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:16,119
I don't know. It could end up in that very

1946
01:37:16,199 --> 01:37:18,079
far corner, just on the very edge and then this

1947
01:37:18,199 --> 01:37:20,560
fall off. You know, probably right. I mean, if you

1948
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:22,560
want to, if you use the escape, if you go

1949
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:24,600
sort of far over North and Birmingham, you'll probably be

1950
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:27,600
safe because it's like a fifty four caroallel or something

1951
01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,439
or come to night. But really it's so unlikely is

1952
01:37:31,439 --> 01:37:33,399
going to hit you. I mean, you might as well

1953
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:36,920
worry about a sink. Roles. I remember when Skylab was

1954
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,359
coming down in nineteen seventy nine, there was some guy

1955
01:37:40,680 --> 01:37:43,079
in Texas. I think it was because they thought it

1956
01:37:43,199 --> 01:37:45,039
might come around down in that area, but I think

1957
01:37:45,079 --> 01:37:47,439
it ended in brazy drink. Now we're gonna least to

1958
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:49,880
you know. I'm good they've been selly.

1959
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:53,520
Speaker 3: You have like builders hats book, the building type safety

1960
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:54,640
hats any Texas.

1961
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, and protect the fil from Skylab. There just excited

1962
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:01,039
Bill or in the head or protect him. He's sending

1963
01:38:01,119 --> 01:38:04,119
for admer helmet on something. Well, someone made, someone made

1964
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:06,560
look a lot fast scam, I'll tell you, yeah, I

1965
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,800
mean the thing about it is it's like it's so unlikely.

1966
01:38:09,039 --> 01:38:11,600
I mean, it's it's a possibility that it's like borrying

1967
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:15,399
about having like a it's worrying really like about are

1968
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:17,399
you walking under wander up walking under a building and

1969
01:38:17,479 --> 01:38:19,520
it falls over that moment or something like that weak

1970
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,600
under the tree. Well there's no wind and it'll fall

1971
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,239
over that moment. But there's someone made a lot less

1972
01:38:25,239 --> 01:38:27,359
of scam. That was an absolute scam, you know. I mean,

1973
01:38:27,359 --> 01:38:28,800
there was some problems for it, but there was there

1974
01:38:28,880 --> 01:38:30,800
was early I think it was one of the salutes

1975
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:35,399
one of the early Soviets space stations. Sometime in the nineties,

1976
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:39,720
they it was abandoned and the and the Ross Cosmos

1977
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:42,399
just said, well, we'll let it. It'll come down eventual'll

1978
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,479
declay and come down. And then everyone, the United Nations

1979
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:46,960
and people saying, you can't let you that. It's got

1980
01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:50,159
a it's it's got a plutonium reactor on board it

1981
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:52,319
and it was powered by a nuclear power. You can't

1982
01:38:52,359 --> 01:38:54,920
just let that come down anywhere because it was like

1983
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:57,560
it would devastate the environment, not just explosion, you know,

1984
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,800
the the radiactive waste. You you've got to give it

1985
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:02,399
a control. The orbits or a land somewhere in the

1986
01:39:02,399 --> 01:39:04,920
middle of the Pacific Ocean or somewhere. So they had

1987
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,800
to send up a crew of ashnaughts up there, and

1988
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:10,479
they had to like orange and natural and controlled the orbit.

1989
01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:13,119
So it came down somewhere out of when we can't

1990
01:39:13,159 --> 01:39:16,119
do any harm, you'd send up Bruce Willis, at least

1991
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:19,079
Bruce Willis. Oh yeah, send him up. They could screw

1992
01:39:19,199 --> 01:39:23,520
slee whatever is. And then there's fire off into far

1993
01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:26,279
orbit around the sun. Something's send them to do it.

1994
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:29,039
It's like at something there was someone so going, who's

1995
01:39:29,079 --> 01:39:31,800
just fire radioactive waste up in the space where firstly

1996
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,359
it could blow up it's being launched, which would, but

1997
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,600
then you got then you basically the whole area around

1998
01:39:37,640 --> 01:39:41,000
space center is like off livers for one hundred thousand years. Yeah,

1999
01:39:41,279 --> 01:39:43,159
or it would you go over in the orbit, it

2000
01:39:43,279 --> 01:39:46,199
might come back. Things are leave a certain area, they

2001
01:39:46,279 --> 01:39:48,720
go through feehole. I know it's because of my space weather.

2002
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:52,119
Of course, they go through keyhole points. So wherever you

2003
01:39:52,279 --> 01:39:54,720
start something going around moll a bit, it will usually

2004
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,720
come back eventually to where it started. And then you'd

2005
01:39:57,760 --> 01:39:59,720
have this thing. Then we'd have it. We'd have it

2006
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:01,399
God flashing back down with you. I think like one

2007
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,119
hundred and fifty years or something with all its nuclear

2008
01:40:04,159 --> 01:40:06,680
waste on boll it like it's all would be really

2009
01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:12,119
pretty awful. I mean, it's so that will be pretty esponly.

2010
01:40:12,359 --> 01:40:14,720
I mean the whole nuclear panel thing is absolutely anyway,

2011
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:18,279
it's not needed. It's it's pointless because we have free energy,

2012
01:40:18,279 --> 01:40:22,199
which they know that. Yeah, yeah, he Doglan will be

2013
01:40:22,239 --> 01:40:25,680
getting there any side, soe but you never know. I mean,

2014
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,840
I'm not saying I think maybe we will, and I'm

2015
01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,479
got a hope so I do. So yeah, Or what

2016
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:31,880
do you think about all the older and.

2017
01:40:32,359 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 12: The ancient Tartaria stuff, because I keep seeing more and

2018
01:40:35,560 --> 01:40:37,840
more of these photos to where you get like a

2019
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:41,319
building from our era, like the Edwardian buildings or something,

2020
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,119
and then that they're extabating them and underneath to get

2021
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,600
like this Tartarian building way on the street level and

2022
01:40:48,199 --> 01:40:49,800
in it's the Livorno.

2023
01:40:50,239 --> 01:40:52,680
Speaker 3: I keep discovering these buildings in it, just like those

2024
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:56,199
Tartarian art picture. There's a whole train station area that

2025
01:40:56,359 --> 01:40:59,479
they are of refurbish. It's currently offering this but you

2026
01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:01,640
can see it from the road and it looks like

2027
01:41:02,359 --> 01:41:03,119
ancient Tartari.

2028
01:41:03,159 --> 01:41:05,239
Speaker 1: If you look up the Borno train.

2029
01:41:05,079 --> 01:41:08,119
Speaker 3: Station across the road in the actual train station, now

2030
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:11,399
there is a building the extent. It's antrets Tarbetia and

2031
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:14,439
it's currently being refurbished and it looks like it's from

2032
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:15,119
another world.

2033
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: It's it sounds really read to be. It sounds bizarre,

2034
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:19,520
but you know, there's there's so much evidence for this.

2035
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,960
It's really young can man. The periods of children in

2036
01:41:23,039 --> 01:41:25,960
Tuney s Week is that the adults were got un

2037
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,399
read off for the reset. And there's like there's like

2038
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:33,239
the whole film in San Francisco before the earthquake, no sets. Yeah,

2039
01:41:33,279 --> 01:41:35,399
and all those buildings in Australia and San Francis.

2040
01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:47,520
Speaker 8: Ever h