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Speaker 2: It's got the ala in the Kleenix. Yeah, you get
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Speaker 2: It didn't moisturize.
Speaker 3: Hold on, man, isn't that stuff like getting to your
Speaker 3: tear ducks and your eyes and burn.
Speaker 2: Well, you're not putting tissue directly in your eyeball. I
Speaker 2: mean well, I.
Speaker 3: Mean your your tears come out to your tear ducks.
Speaker 4: Some people actually stick the tissue, right, but your dad
Speaker 4: below the eyeball and then you know, you get the
Speaker 4: moisturizer right there.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. Yeah, it's great when you
Speaker 2: have running nose or something. Especially, Yeah, when you're sick,
Speaker 2: you get the running nose. You're not crying. Do you
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Speaker 2: But it's the one with the what's the one with
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Speaker 2: Dick Ferguson in here.
Speaker 3: I'm just I'm just saying, I know how used you
Speaker 3: have a cold? Wiping too much when you're wrong on
Speaker 3: your nose, it gets a little dry. And obviously talking
Speaker 3: about clean aches and alabara just took me back to
Speaker 3: when I was a kid. My mom had like this
Speaker 3: this remedy, right, And I don't know where.
Speaker 2: It came from.
Speaker 3: I think maybe mom's passing down, But I mean he
Speaker 3: was always chicken soup Cambo's chicken soup.
Speaker 2: Put all that damn sodium.
Speaker 3: In it, right, Canada dry ginger real right, has no
Speaker 3: ginger in it?
Speaker 2: Nope at all. Right, So the Redheads aren't cattibalizing themselves.
Speaker 5: No, no.
Speaker 4: And then it was Vic's vapor roupe. The rub it
Speaker 4: on your chest and on your throat. Yeah, an old
Speaker 4: old time cure for the dark agent.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you man, that's what My mom would just
Speaker 3: stick their hand in that little bluetube and just come
Speaker 3: out with a hand full of.
Speaker 2: U And it was right. I put it on your chest,
Speaker 2: in your back, and they were like you good. See
Speaker 2: in the hells of Ohio. My parents would just give
Speaker 2: me a little shot of whiskey, shut me up, and
Speaker 2: you go right to see your throat. How does that help?
Speaker 1: Try to picture hand your old grant looking for the
Speaker 1: pappy that wapel back there.
Speaker 2: I got a cold. We were a little too poor
Speaker 2: for that. We were more of a gym bean family.
Speaker 2: Give it the bird the wild.
Speaker 3: Wait, Gray, that's one hell of a remedy because I've never.
Speaker 2: Heard of that before.
Speaker 1: Now, Pappy's warl cross syrup, you never heard that. No,
Speaker 1: you do the you do the you know the lemon
Speaker 1: and honey. You think you said you put a little
Speaker 1: shot of bourbon in there?
Speaker 2: Never yeah, oh yeah, yes, lemon and honey burbon, not
Speaker 2: some right out of your throat just too. That's right,
Speaker 2: So I can grow this beard, and then that's right that.
Speaker 4: I was denied the alcohol version. So that way, that's
Speaker 4: the remedy for Ben. If you want to grow in
Speaker 4: space your.
Speaker 2: Hair, it's a lemon, honey and subourbon. That's why forty
Speaker 2: years old it looks like I have alopecia.
Speaker 1: Five six text slide speaking of Dry, the Rocks run
Speaker 1: game coming up? Dry, who's gonna be here next year?
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the May figures to be here because
Speaker 1: he's on the rookie deal. But are we bringing Javonte
Speaker 1: Julil back? Do we need a clean house?
Speaker 2: What do we need to do here?
Speaker 3: I don't believe that you need to uh necessarily clean house.
Speaker 3: I think the first thing to do before you come
Speaker 3: up with that idea, Ben, is go back and reevaluate
Speaker 3: what's been going on with the running back position and say, well, well,
Speaker 3: these guys are not adequate enough to get the job done.
Speaker 3: Because when you look at Javonte Williams. Right, like when
Speaker 3: he first came into the league. Obviously he rushed for
Speaker 3: almost almost thousand yards or four touchdowns. He suffers the injuries,
Speaker 3: a lot of things happened that changed a little bit
Speaker 3: as far as how the team utilized his ability.
Speaker 2: But I mean, he had the.
Speaker 3: Same amount of touchdowns this year as he had in
Speaker 3: year one, and two of those touchdowns he got on
Speaker 3: a Thursday night game against the New Orleans Saints against.
Speaker 2: The team that was short handed, shorthanded, notorious for giving
Speaker 2: up plays. And by the way, that was the.
Speaker 3: First time all season a long that Jafonte actually scored
Speaker 3: a rushing touchdown.
Speaker 2: So my question is, here's a bigger question.
Speaker 3: Well, you look at the fact that that the Broncos
Speaker 3: have not had a thousand, nine thousand yard rusher one
Speaker 3: hundred yard rusher in a game. That's right in the
Speaker 3: Champagnon errawor the last time they did it was with
Speaker 3: the Sean Payton's guy and he did it. There you go.
Speaker 3: Latavious Murray was the last person, right, And do you
Speaker 3: remember what happened during that time, because Latavious rushed for
Speaker 3: I think one hundred and three yards against Arizona then
Speaker 3: they play the Rams on Christmas Day and that's when Nata.
Speaker 1: You got diausted because you had the offensive line fighting
Speaker 1: Brent Rippan on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Yeah, zact, let it rip our hYP Yes.
Speaker 3: So that's kind of crazy to know that the Broncos
Speaker 3: haven't had a one hundred yard rusher in a single
Speaker 3: game from a single player since twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: It barely had fifty yard rushers all year. Uh you
Speaker 1: look at you look at the running backs this year.
Speaker 1: Javonte Everage thirty yards a game, Chili leverage thirty one
Speaker 1: yards a game. Estimate twenty three yards a game. That
Speaker 1: doesn't even it barely adds up to one.
Speaker 2: Hundred by itself. Okay, but my biggest question doesn't add
Speaker 2: up to one hundred. It does my math. So even
Speaker 2: if you were to that's eighty four yards a game
Speaker 2: between the three of them, exactly.
Speaker 3: So, even if you want to change the running backs
Speaker 3: for the Denver Broncos, right, you got to change the
Speaker 3: philosophy as well. And what I mean by that is
Speaker 3: going back and watching a Buffalo game I find to
Speaker 3: be refrustrating to watch. Savante gets a carry rush for
Speaker 3: five yards, He's taken out. You had taler Berday come in,
Speaker 3: he rushed for seven yards and he's taken out.
Speaker 2: And I'm trying to understand.
Speaker 3: What's the overall ideology associated with it.
Speaker 2: If you can help me out, those out there listening.
Speaker 3: To the show, help me understand, because I don't understand it,
Speaker 3: because I thought the idea was keep the ball away
Speaker 3: from Josh Allen by running the ball, right what we
Speaker 3: saw Coach Payton actually write that on his call sheet.
Speaker 2: Run it, but it's you're not utilizing your running.
Speaker 3: Backs, and everyone's asking the question as to why it
Speaker 3: isn't really truly the running backs like the ability to
Speaker 3: run the ball.
Speaker 2: Is that the reason that.
Speaker 3: The Broncos have been ineffective as far as having a
Speaker 3: hundred yard rusher over the past two seasons.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I think it's more scheme.
Speaker 1: I think it's more play call than it is, UH player,
Speaker 1: because we've seen these guys be able to get these
Speaker 1: kinds of yards when they're given enough to be able
Speaker 1: to do it. My problem here is you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to go to the draft to address this.
Speaker 3: UH.
Speaker 2: To add to the room. You can't add to the room.
Speaker 1: There's no but First of all, in free agency's not
Speaker 1: gonna be anybody to add what are you gonna add
Speaker 1: Naji Harris on a nine million dollar deal in a
Speaker 1: paying that especially not really run what would you what
Speaker 1: would you add? You know, I mean the Aaron Jones,
Speaker 1: Naji Harris, those are the top two guys. After that,
Speaker 1: it drops off a cliff, Jeff Wilson, AJ Dillon, the
Speaker 1: ghost of Nick Chubb, Like that's that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, And then you've got Alexander Madison and then
Speaker 1: you get into a whole slew of nobody's after that,
Speaker 1: Like it's it's the free agent running back group here.
Speaker 1: There's there's nobody that you want out of this group.
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna have to go to the
Speaker 1: draft if you're gonna do that? And I know you
Speaker 1: get everybody their mother talking about asking Janty. First of all,
Speaker 1: I don't think he's there guy. Second of all, I
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be there to me, if you're
Speaker 1: looking at guys that sort of fit the mold of
Speaker 1: what Sean Payton wants. O Marion Hampton out of North Carolina,
Speaker 1: Caleb Johnson and Iowa Judkins at Ohio State those guys
Speaker 1: kind of fit the body types when you start to
Speaker 1: look at that Nick Singleton's going back to school.
Speaker 2: By the way, if you want like a bruising.
Speaker 1: North South guy, maybe Khalil Mullings out of Michigan.
Speaker 2: You know, he's six two two thirty.
Speaker 1: But it's like there's just not there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of room here, So it's gonna have to be you'd
Speaker 1: have to make a commitment to get these guys going,
Speaker 1: which and you'd think that Sean Pate would recognize that
Speaker 1: because his most successful seasons came when they had a
Speaker 1: strong rushing attack, not when they were slinging the ball
Speaker 1: over the ark.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But being for me, it doesn't make a difference what's
Speaker 3: running back you bring in here, right, veteran or riocky.
Speaker 2: They're not gonna use them enough.
Speaker 3: If there's not a steady commitment to utilizing that player's skills,
Speaker 3: it really makes no sense. And the way that I
Speaker 3: look at it from a defensive standpoint, it's not all
Speaker 3: about how many carry there's a single running back actually
Speaker 3: received in a given season or a given game to
Speaker 3: me's touches, Right, I told granted this before, I look
Speaker 3: at it like it's fantasy football. I need to get
Speaker 3: this guy as many touches as possible because now you
Speaker 3: put that on the hearts and minds of preparation for
Speaker 3: defensive coordinators and players.
Speaker 2: We have to stop this guy.
Speaker 3: And it's not just about you know, getting in the
Speaker 3: bare front and what I mean by that is gapped
Speaker 3: out across the board and you're just gonna clog up
Speaker 3: every gap and you're gonna say, well, we're gonna force
Speaker 3: you to plug with.
Speaker 2: One hand tied behind your back.
Speaker 3: No, you need a guy that's like a Chase Brown, right, Well,
Speaker 3: you can give it to on an outside zone, you
Speaker 3: run gap scheme with him, but also you can flex
Speaker 3: him out and you can match him up with safeties
Speaker 3: and linebackers and you know you still can win. That's
Speaker 3: the evolution of what I would love to see this
Speaker 3: Broncos usage, not running, the usage of their running back.
Speaker 2: Get to Yeah. And for me, I mean, I think
Speaker 2: that's the thing. Excuse me, I want to see I
Speaker 2: want to see them use the.
Speaker 1: Running backs more because that's really sort of where we're
Speaker 1: at with this thing. It's it was obvious that the
Speaker 1: plan or what should have been the plan to to
Speaker 1: beat Buffalo was keep the ball out of the Bill's
Speaker 1: hands so they can't run it downhill on you, and
Speaker 1: we did the opposite of that. We came out with
Speaker 1: the deep strike. Okay, you got them on their heels
Speaker 1: with the Troy Franklin thing. Congratulations, you got him.
Speaker 2: Happened.
Speaker 1: Now we need to go to the ground game. Now
Speaker 1: we need to establish that. Now we need to get
Speaker 1: that going. Now we need to have sustained lengthy drives.
Speaker 1: We scored two and a half minutes off the thing,
Speaker 1: and then we never scored again. The closest we came
Speaker 1: was clanking a fifty plus yard field goal off the upright.
Speaker 1: It was I mean, whatever happened from here's the plan
Speaker 1: to in the game?
Speaker 2: That changed, Like I don't understand.
Speaker 1: And I don't understand if it's you know, again, is
Speaker 1: this all on play calling, because it feels like that
Speaker 1: there's some missed backside cuts at times as well.
Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know. You're going to have
Speaker 2: to run the ball to be successful.
Speaker 1: And Sean Payton's winningest seasons came from when they had
Speaker 1: a top rushing attack, So what's the problem with doing that?
Speaker 1: Was this just about getting Bonux reps because I'm coming
Speaker 1: up dry when I'm looking for answers, Well, you were.
Speaker 3: Coming up dry, just like the balance in the run
Speaker 3: game for the Broncos came up dry and you gotta
Speaker 3: sprink some water on it.
Speaker 2: Man, you got to plan some seeds right, water.
Speaker 3: That grass because ideas, wherever you water the grass using
Speaker 3: the grass actually grows.
Speaker 2: And you need to do that with the run game.
Speaker 3: Now, I will say this to you know, Coach Payton's
Speaker 3: offensive credit is that that going back and watching in
Speaker 3: the games, not just the Buffalo game, but the games
Speaker 3: over the season, there was some creativity that eventually started
Speaker 3: to evolve that we saw Marvin MAM's kind of utilizing
Speaker 3: the scheme, and I was thinking, okay, well, this is
Speaker 3: what I was anticipating.
Speaker 2: The time, this is what I wanted.
Speaker 3: More like, when there's a positive play, you know, the
Speaker 3: part of me as a fan, I thirst for more.
Speaker 3: And when the well is tapped off and some guitars
Speaker 3: out the like, I get a little frustrated. I get
Speaker 3: a little frustrated because I'm like, there's your juice right there, right,
Speaker 3: utilize the juice. And I would have loved to see
Speaker 3: Marvin Mims utilize more in a vertical passing game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: because when you do that, you open up more of
Speaker 3: the run lanes. Because that is something that defensive coordinators
Speaker 3: have to think about.
Speaker 1: When you put Marvin Mims in the backfield, it tells
Speaker 1: the safeties to come down.
Speaker 2: It's coming to him. He's not going vertical from the backfield.
Speaker 2: Come down, especially after.
Speaker 3: What we've seen over the past couple of weeks with
Speaker 3: going you know, you go back to the Chargers game,
Speaker 3: the Bengals game in Kansas City Chiefs game, and I
Speaker 3: was looking for and when you.
Speaker 2: And I talked about a particular play, it was in a.
Speaker 3: Second quarter, nine minutes and forty eight seconds, right.
Speaker 1: After you ripped off a six yard run with Chavante
Speaker 1: and then what are you doing throwing the ball behind
Speaker 1: the line of script image to Marvin Mims in the backfield?
Speaker 1: As you pointed out on it, defense is on alert.
Speaker 3: And the first that once again when I when I
Speaker 3: watch film and I tell Ryan Edwards this because sometimes
Speaker 3: Ryan thinks that, well, he said, Nick, you're kind of
Speaker 3: like Ben And I was like, what do you mean,
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like Ben right all the time.
Speaker 2: Well, well, we know that.
Speaker 3: But the idea is just like, well, well Ben loves
Speaker 3: to just kind of pile on coach Fagan.
Speaker 2: I say, I'm not.
Speaker 3: I can't change the defensive eyes that I develop over
Speaker 3: the years, and I look at and I evaluate games
Speaker 3: based on that. Like if you tell me you and
Speaker 3: the shotgun, you got Marvin Mims in the backfield offset
Speaker 3: to the left and Javonte to the right, and I
Speaker 3: know for three games you've been using him a certain
Speaker 3: way and the swing passes and then he goes from
Speaker 3: left to right and he's swinging. I'm like, something's up.
Speaker 2: Something something is up.
Speaker 3: So with that being said, use your strengths to your
Speaker 3: advantage on as though you're gonna draw the defense.
Speaker 2: I was waiting on that particular play.
Speaker 3: I was thinking, Okay, well maybe Bo's gonna fake it,
Speaker 3: throw it downfield, or he's gonna throw it to Marvin,
Speaker 3: and Marvin's gonna throw it downfield, right, But none of.
Speaker 2: None of that materialized. It didn't, and he had the
Speaker 2: lost three yards and I was like, dang it.
Speaker 1: And it took an opportunity to put you back behind
Speaker 1: the chains in an area where you were in plus territory.
Speaker 1: You can't you can't throw the ball behind the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. One, once you cross the fifty, you should
Speaker 1: never throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 2: You just shouldn't. It's very rare place where you're gonna
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: A third and long after you've gotten knocked back, you
Speaker 1: might run a screenplay, but you're not throwing the You don't.
Speaker 1: Once you get plus territory, you don't throw the ball
Speaker 1: behind the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 3: No, you don't unless you're gonna break your own tennessees
Speaker 3: and throw it down the field.
Speaker 2: That's the only time that I would be.
Speaker 1: If you're said it's a double pass or something, then yeah,
Speaker 1: but the intent is still to push the ball behind
Speaker 1: the line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't take it like. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: Once you're getting a plus territory, you don't put yourself
Speaker 1: in negative place, and if you teach your quarterbacks, you
Speaker 1: don't take sacks there. You know, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those things like you don't live to fight an other
Speaker 1: day there, get rid of it, you know, you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't hang in there trying to make something happen,
Speaker 1: live to fight another day.
Speaker 3: And that's why, like when with they fake the the punt, right.
Speaker 2: I thought that was that was perfect, yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: Thought, Okay, the team's gonna get some points off of that,
Speaker 3: and no one is though, and then we came up
Speaker 3: drying on that, right, but knowing that.
Speaker 2: Points are a premium, that there was.
Speaker 3: Gonna be another shot where it's gonna be another aggressive
Speaker 3: move some something fleet flicker whatever it is, throw back
Speaker 3: the ball, both throw back the corner. I didn't see that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I didn't see it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just the point now where I need some of
Speaker 1: Grant's parents coughser cough remedy at this point, Well, we
Speaker 1: got a whole six pack coming up next.
Speaker 5: Western our tackles, help the receivers on the official home
Speaker 5: of THEOS. All Right, all night, Kowa, welcome.
Speaker 2: Back to my broncost country. Tonight.
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Speaker 2: What well with the loss yesterday?
Speaker 1: Contract talks with Kevin O'Connell get front and center in
Speaker 1: Minnesota Jay Glazer's report and multiple teams are interested in
Speaker 1: trading for Kevin O'Connell.
Speaker 2: Certainly not idle talk. There is tension in the.
Speaker 1: Relationships, stemming largely from the fact that he did not
Speaker 1: get an extension after his second season. Now he's one
Speaker 1: year away from free agency, could be willing to let
Speaker 1: it ride if necessary and hit the market, betting.
Speaker 2: On himself for one more year.
Speaker 1: Entering the final Sunday of the regular season, his earning potential.
Speaker 2: Was as high as it could be.
Speaker 1: Here's the question, Well, the two sides agree on consequences
Speaker 1: of a two game tailspin, the vikings over either hand.
Speaker 1: O'Connor can always say you know what I'm out, He
Speaker 1: voluntarily coaches a lame duck, can make himself available to
Speaker 1: anyone and everyone. In twenty twenty six, beyond money, O'Connell
Speaker 1: could be looking for more, say and roster construction that
Speaker 1: our alignment with the general manager in a situation where
Speaker 1: he'll have more of what he needs to put a
Speaker 1: team together that can get to the playoffs and win
Speaker 1: when the postseason arrives.
Speaker 2: But O'Connell contract obviously should.
Speaker 1: Be the first order of business for the Vikings right
Speaker 1: now that the season is any.
Speaker 2: But will a deal be reached?
Speaker 1: Will they keep him for one more year, let him
Speaker 1: become a free agent, or take the best offer they
Speaker 1: can if teams want to trade for him. On the surface,
Speaker 1: O'Connell seems too good nature to play hardball. But his dad,
Speaker 1: as many of you may or may not know, as
Speaker 1: a retired FBIA.
Speaker 2: Agent who was partially responsible for.
Speaker 1: Taking down John Gottie.
Speaker 3: So you are suggesting maybe he unlisten his dad to
Speaker 3: do absolutely what Benjamin.
Speaker 2: It's in the family of DNA to match wits with
Speaker 2: the rich and powerful.
Speaker 1: So if the if the wolf's snowed off for Kevin,
Speaker 1: the kind of deal he's looking for the me not
Speaker 1: themit the match.
Speaker 3: Well, there's a lot of teams out there that love
Speaker 3: young coaches, and you know, Kevin o'conno's one of the
Speaker 3: young coaches that.
Speaker 2: Stem from Drumbard.
Speaker 3: Please the Mike sending him coaching tree and his record
Speaker 3: is thirty four and seventeen. So if the Vikings won
Speaker 3: a part ways with Kevin O'Connell, there will be some takers.
Speaker 3: But I would suggest, why don't you just try to
Speaker 3: make a deal work because Detroit and Dan Campbell they're
Speaker 3: not going to go anywhere. They may lose Aaron Glynn
Speaker 3: and they may lose Van Johnson, but which will provide
Speaker 3: an opportunity.
Speaker 2: For the Vikings to take over that division.
Speaker 3: So make him happy, figure something out with Sam Donald
Speaker 3: and just run it back.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, they could actually trade him to a team like,
Speaker 1: for instance, Jacksonville and reap the benefit of draft picks
Speaker 1: while the economist general manager continues to strike out on
Speaker 1: the long players.
Speaker 2: Bad ball two.
Speaker 1: An learn head coach who could possibly have teams interested
Speaker 1: in trading for him says save your time. Unlike last year,
Speaker 1: Steelers coach Mike Toman didn't walk away when asked by
Speaker 1: reporters about his future. He handled one specific question about
Speaker 1: his future with a very specific.
Speaker 2: And clear message.
Speaker 1: Asked for his message to any team that might be
Speaker 1: interested in possibly trading for him, Tomlin said, I have
Speaker 1: no message.
Speaker 2: Save your time.
Speaker 1: Any coach can put the cabash on a potential trade
Speaker 1: by refusing to engage in talks with the team that
Speaker 1: has secured permission to negotiate with him for reaching a
Speaker 1: deal on compensation with the coach's current team or Tomlin, Well,
Speaker 1: I agree to a trade. If the Steelers don't want him,
Speaker 1: they should fire him and then he can take another
Speaker 1: job without compensation to Pittsburgh, or he can wait a
Speaker 1: year with full pay and loom Over the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: six coaching carousel, topic of potential trade became relevant because
Speaker 1: the report regarding Tomlin's future wasn't that the Steelers without
Speaker 1: fire Tomalin, but they're not planning to make a coach change.
Speaker 2: Tomlin is not planning to go anywhere else voluntarily. If
Speaker 2: you order in need of a coach.
Speaker 1: Would you trade for either one of these guys?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I would.
Speaker 3: We're talking about coaches who have shown as though they
Speaker 3: can win an NFL. But more importantly, think about Mike
Speaker 3: Tomlin's team here with the Steelers, one of the longest
Speaker 3: teams with the organization in the league at this particular moment.
Speaker 2: And I know there's been a.
Speaker 3: Whole bunch of bad characters who have come out and
Speaker 3: made the suggestion maybe it's time that the Steelers decided
Speaker 3: to move on.
Speaker 2: Here's what I do know. Right, you don't quit.
Speaker 3: One job but I'm having another job lined up.
Speaker 2: Right, You don't break.
Speaker 3: Up with your girlfriend unless you have another girlfriend.
Speaker 2: On the side.
Speaker 3: So why would the Stealers decide, well, Ben that Ben's
Speaker 3: give me that smirk. Theres so make it's a little
Speaker 3: different for one bitchmin all Bright. But why would the
Speaker 3: Steelers have to move past a Hall of Fame coach
Speaker 3: just to satisfy the stomach rumbling.
Speaker 2: Of a whole bunch of bad characters. You always have
Speaker 2: something lined up just for the next.
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, wait a minute. This has always been
Speaker 3: my idea of my concept. You don't mess up a
Speaker 3: sure thing for possibly maybe let me do that.
Speaker 2: You always have to have a sure thing on the
Speaker 2: other side. But if we had to make it makes sense.
Speaker 2: So why would the Steelers do this?
Speaker 1: Unless you're me, I I'll just blow it up at random,
Speaker 1: just to blow it up free.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Speaking of Tomlin, he doesn't know his starting quarterbacks is
Speaker 1: going to be in twenty twenty five. Tomas said today
Speaker 1: there are a lot of unanswered questions about the future
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh and that.
Speaker 2: The quarterback position is one of them.
Speaker 1: Thomas said he hasn't ruled out bringing back Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: or Justin Fields are both.
Speaker 2: He also has it ruled out moving on for both
Speaker 2: of them bringing in a new starter.
Speaker 1: We don't have a quarterback under contract, Tomlin said, We're
Speaker 1: certainly open to considering those guys.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of work ahead of us.
Speaker 1: Shortly there after, the Steelers did sign bring in Skyler Thompson,
Speaker 1: so they do have a quarterback under contract at least.
Speaker 1: Thomas said the Steelers had a lot of work to
Speaker 1: do before free agency of the draft to determine which
Speaker 1: quarterbacks are available. Realistically, it's hard to believe the Steelers
Speaker 1: would go into twenty twenty five with the Fields as
Speaker 1: their starter.
Speaker 2: I don't know about Wilson.
Speaker 1: As promising of the season as it appeared at times,
Speaker 1: no one could be satisfied, I think with the final result,
Speaker 1: although that may or may not have been on the quarterback.
Speaker 1: If you look, the defense really gave up the goods
Speaker 1: against the Ravens.
Speaker 2: SOS won advance past the wild card round.
Speaker 1: They're gonna have to find a long term answer there eventually.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean, obviously they're going to have to
Speaker 3: find a long term answer. I don't think if they
Speaker 3: run him back with Russ that would be a bad idea,
Speaker 3: right because now they can sign him to a team
Speaker 3: fly deal and let me better, quarterbacks are getting eight
Speaker 3: nine million dollars.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of money to everyone else. Backup, money
Speaker 2: is says ten million on these days.
Speaker 1: Starting quarterbacks start in the late twenties, early thirties on.
Speaker 2: Up to sixteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but at this particular point where Russ is, I'm
Speaker 3: sure he would if the Sales offered him a two
Speaker 3: year deal that pays him ten million dollars a year,
Speaker 3: he would take it. Maybe maybe we once again you
Speaker 3: asked that question.
Speaker 2: You keep that tired down the road, But it's about.
Speaker 3: Trying to fix your defense, add some valuable wide receivers
Speaker 3: to go with.
Speaker 1: The pass catchers. If yeah, whoever me is going to
Speaker 1: be the quarterback there. That's that's that much is very obvious.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. George Pickens is so mercurial. I
Speaker 1: don't know if you can count on him, as you know,
Speaker 1: he's your wide receiver one, but I don't if you
Speaker 1: count on If you're bringing Russ back, why not make
Speaker 1: a play for Courton Sun.
Speaker 2: I mean that is Hey, I'm sure the Broncos got
Speaker 2: to pick their interests. Yeah, for the right draft pick,
Speaker 2: I think everybody'd be happy there we'll see four.
Speaker 1: The Bears completed their interview tonight with Broncos senior personnel
Speaker 1: executive David Shaw for their vacant head coaching job.
Speaker 2: Jaw who's fifty two.
Speaker 1: With Stanford's head coach from twenty eleven to twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: compiling a ninety six and fifty four record with the
Speaker 1: Cardinal three packed twelve conference titles. Before returning to his
Speaker 1: own monitor coach in two thousand and seventy, he was
Speaker 1: in his NFL assistant with the Eagles, Raiders, and Ravens.
Speaker 1: He officially joined the Broncos back in June of last year.
Speaker 1: The Bears have completed interviews with interim head coach Thomas Brown,
Speaker 1: former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 1: Lands offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka,
Speaker 1: Cardinals offensive cordator Drew Petsing, former Commanders and Panthers head
Speaker 1: coach Ron Rivera, and Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver. They
Speaker 1: also talked to Mike Rabel before the Patriots hired him.
Speaker 1: They still have interview requests out for Iowa State at
Speaker 1: coach Matt Campbell. Viking's defensive coordinator Brian Lawrees was believed
Speaker 1: to be the leader in the clubhouse. There Notre Dame
Speaker 1: head coach Marcus Freeman, Commander's offensive coordator Kingsbury, former Cowboys
Speaker 1: coach Mike McCarthy, who will be on Wednesday, and Ravens
Speaker 1: offensive Quardner Todd Munkin, Steven's offensive cocording to Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: and Packer's offense acording to Adam Statovic as well. Bear's
Speaker 1: casting a wide wide net in the search. I think
Speaker 1: they want Ben Johnson, but the odds on favorite is
Speaker 1: Brian Flores here.
Speaker 2: How do you feel about that? Okay, let me go.
Speaker 3: Back to the David Shaw situation for a second. For
Speaker 3: those who don't really know David Shaw, and some fans
Speaker 3: may not look at him in this way, how would
Speaker 3: say you need to change your mind? Because I immediately
Speaker 3: go back to Andrew Luck. And we know what Andrew
Speaker 3: Luck was at Stanford and why the Coast Suck for
Speaker 3: Luck campaign was such a big thing, and the time
Speaker 3: that Andrew Luck was with David Shaw.
Speaker 2: I mean, he said a lot of records. So even
Speaker 2: if David.
Speaker 3: Shaw does not become someone of a head coach in
Speaker 3: this league. To me, I think some mu should give
Speaker 3: him an opportunity to be an offensive coordinated because he
Speaker 3: has shown that he has the capabilities to work with
Speaker 3: young quarterbacks. At Chicago Bears, they have a young quarterback
Speaker 3: in Cable Williams.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do. And and that's the thing. The question,
Speaker 2: though there is is the run.
Speaker 1: Of poles and whether or not you're aligned, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, is that is that?
Speaker 2: First of all, here's what you have to ask yourself.
Speaker 2: You Ryan Post, are you trying to save your job?
Speaker 3: I'm to you there have been two head coaches who've
Speaker 3: been fired, right, so you're trying to do whatever you
Speaker 3: can to make your quarterback look great because you had
Speaker 3: justin fields when you're coming.
Speaker 2: To set him up right and your coach look great.
Speaker 2: That's the thing. So it's it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're a if you're a Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: you're taking that job.
Speaker 2: Knowing that poll that you know that polls.
Speaker 3: I mean, no, you know you're you're not because you
Speaker 3: want to make sure that you have someone tied to you.
Speaker 3: So the idea, if the Bear is going to do it,
Speaker 3: you hire Ben Johnson and guy with Ben Johnson the Hide.
Speaker 2: This guy, who you know a team like the Raiders
Speaker 2: certainly has the ability.
Speaker 5: To do five.
Speaker 1: AJ Brown has started his one Book book club. The
Speaker 1: one Book AJ Brown book Club has boosted Inner Excellence
Speaker 1: to the top of the Amazon bestseller list. The e
Speaker 1: book is nine to ninety nine and it said non fiction.
Speaker 2: It was buried down there at like five hundred thousand
Speaker 2: or whatever.
Speaker 1: The best part of all this is at Brown's habit
Speaker 1: of reading between drives has sparked at least interest for
Speaker 1: now in reading, which can be a nice diversion to
Speaker 1: whatever's going on in anyone else's life.
Speaker 2: But are you buying this AJ Brown? Reading this book
Speaker 2: on the sideline? What is with this motivational ploy?
Speaker 1: I mean, but for me, I'm like, well, if that's
Speaker 1: what it takes to get you motivated to so be it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that I would need that. But okay, well, once.
Speaker 3: Again, your situation may be different from his, as it
Speaker 3: may be for anyone else.
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm like, do whatever.
Speaker 3: Floats your boat as long as there's not a distraction
Speaker 3: to the team.
Speaker 2: It's not like he was eating a hot dog on
Speaker 2: the sideline or whatever.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was a little frustrated that he was
Speaker 3: not as involved, or if that means that he has
Speaker 3: to go read some book.
Speaker 2: Some chapters here are excellence.
Speaker 3: Whatever it is, as long as he's not distracting the team, what's.
Speaker 2: The harm in doing it? What is it? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'd be listening to the take of a Granted podcast personally, well, and.
Speaker 3: I'm sure if someone found that out, they would say, well,
Speaker 3: why has it been You have to listen to the
Speaker 3: take of the Granted.
Speaker 2: Podcast to kind of get him gold because I got
Speaker 2: to find out the latest from Grant's minute. I gotta
Speaker 2: hear that in my life. So as much as oh
Speaker 2: that's all I said, just say, that's what I need.
Speaker 2: That's the motivation of my life. I need. All right,
Speaker 2: This is a wild story here.
Speaker 1: Last year's Wildcard game between the Dolphins and Cheese featured
Speaker 1: temperatures that were pretty cold, bone and chilling cold. Some
Speaker 1: fans who attended the game developed frostbite. There were reports
Speaker 1: of amputations, although that specific remains unclear. A new article
Speaker 1: from ESPN looks back at the Deep Freeze playoff game,
Speaker 1: and it adds something new that in January twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: Open Air playoff game in Minnesota, the last played outdoors
Speaker 1: before the opening of the dome that replaced the Metrodome.
Speaker 1: The Seahawks safety Cam Chancellor's case of thing your tip
Speaker 1: frostbite had amputation on the table. The Canceler said, I
Speaker 1: had never had frost bite, and I was like, wait,
Speaker 1: are y'all gonna cut.
Speaker 2: My fingers off?
Speaker 1: At the time, he posted photos of his fingertips for
Speaker 1: the skin peeling beneath the nail. Although he wore gloves
Speaker 1: during the game, the damage occurred due to sweat that
Speaker 1: froze inside the gloves. Canceler said, you're out there playing
Speaker 1: that cold weather, You're out there sweating, and then once
Speaker 1: you take a time out, you're standing or sitting.
Speaker 2: Down, all that sweat is on you. It's cold, it
Speaker 2: makes the sweat worse.
Speaker 1: So the potential for playing games and ultra cold conditions
Speaker 1: has obviously increased. Now the season has banded into seventeen games.
Speaker 1: It will get worse if it when another game is
Speaker 1: added to the schedule. As noted by ESPN, the league
Speaker 1: monitors weather patterns with two or three alternate stadium reserved
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: Event a game must be moved.
Speaker 1: Given last year's weather issues at the Wildcard involving the
Speaker 1: Dolphins Chiefs, which was not moved or delayed, and the
Speaker 1: Steelers' bills, which was delayed by a day. The league
Speaker 1: started planning for playoff weather contingencies earlier as normal this year,
Speaker 1: the NFL has never had a temperature or wind chill minimum,
Speaker 1: and after that, had the chance, I probably should have
Speaker 1: established one. And while fans attend open air games with
Speaker 1: full knowledge of the conditions and assuming full risk of
Speaker 1: potential consequences, a decision to play the game at the
Speaker 1: scheduled time in that venue carries with it an implication
Speaker 1: that's safe for human beings to attend. Even if no
Speaker 1: one could ever credibly claim that the league is a
Speaker 1: legal obligation reschedule it, there's kind of a moral obligation here.
Speaker 2: When do we think about Cam Chancellor getting frost.
Speaker 1: Bite from playing in a game and fans getting frost
Speaker 1: bite and having to have amputations just to watch football.
Speaker 3: Well, the idea is from the league is whatever, man,
Speaker 3: Because do you remember the Ice Bowl December thirty first,
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty seven.
Speaker 2: I rememb remember when I was in attendance, obviously thirteen
Speaker 2: years before I record not.
Speaker 3: From from that particular standpoint, But you can always go
Speaker 3: back and google the coldest game in NFL history.
Speaker 2: I mean, the.
Speaker 3: NFL is going to play games no matter what, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, there was a Fighters Los Angeles that displayed
Speaker 3: so many people they just moved to Arizona because the
Speaker 3: game is cold and the cold climate, whether it's in
Speaker 3: Green Bay, Chicago, Seattle, Denver, wherever, all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: that's going to change the m of the league. No.
Speaker 3: And for those fans. This is why I love Broncos
Speaker 3: fans because they endure the cold weather. They're out there,
Speaker 3: you know, all bundle up. But I always wonder this
Speaker 3: Ben right, when they build these new stadiums.
Speaker 2: They make it sight state of the art.
Speaker 3: Why is it that they never make like plug in
Speaker 3: seats like for cold weather and you can even sell
Speaker 3: them at the premium right when you can see the tickets.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to make sure those seats
Speaker 1: are working all Like you put heaters in the seats,
Speaker 1: you get those heated cushions.
Speaker 2: That's what they should do, is get he could buy
Speaker 2: sell those or rentals to you. Let you put those.
Speaker 2: You go something and you look at the stating at
Speaker 2: the Broncos.
Speaker 3: Some of those places have little outlets like where you
Speaker 3: could plug things in.
Speaker 2: You can plug them right there, plug it, there you are,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 3: So now you're not worried about frostbite. Carries about frost bike.
Speaker 3: You have seen those those big airplane like blowers on the.
Speaker 2: Sideline, the heat heat stuff on them, and then you.
Speaker 1: Get those those big jackets that you could put on
Speaker 1: that have the thing hooked up to him. But the
Speaker 1: problem with that is just like when you if you
Speaker 1: get too hot in there and you sweat, you go
Speaker 1: out of the cold to do to get a chancered
Speaker 1: you freeze.
Speaker 2: You know what.
Speaker 3: Earlier this season there were there were a couple of
Speaker 3: cold games in Steve Batward and I was standing on
Speaker 3: the sideline, you know, waiting to our sideline hit, and
Speaker 3: I'm waiting for Steve to come.
Speaker 2: But he's standing by the blower. Yeah. I'm like, that's
Speaker 2: that's that's a whole page right there. He was standing
Speaker 2: by the blower.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 2: Yes, I said, be doing. I'm gonna pust kids here later. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can stand there, I said, Steve, you played in Denver,
Speaker 2: you used to be used to it.
Speaker 3: He's like, man, oh, it's cold, cold, Yes about the heater,
Speaker 3: standing by.
Speaker 2: The heat and elbowing. People have to wait to stand
Speaker 2: by the heater. Said that are going out there half time?
Speaker 2: Well no, I'm covering myself off out a spot here.
Speaker 2: That's the friendiment, all one thing to do. Yeah, push
Speaker 2: the kid out of the way, just to bom you
Speaker 2: from the city. Yes, the Broncos Country nine rolls side
Speaker 2: up to this. Your soul is mine.