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<v Speaker 1>Walk back to a Broncos Country Today's All Bright, Dick Ferguson,

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<v Speaker 1>Grant Smith here with you. Five six six nine zero

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<v Speaker 1>is the text line. Thanks to Steve Atwater for joining

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<v Speaker 1>Get your tissues ready, keep a box of I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>the ala Vero Kleenex. It's got the alo in the Kleenex.

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<v Speaker 2>It's got the ala in the Kleenix. Yeah, you get

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<v Speaker 2>loationed while you're crying, right, so you don't rub the

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<v Speaker 2>paper and then rub a ross spot in your nose.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't moisturize.

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<v Speaker 3>Hold on, man, isn't that stuff like getting to your

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<v Speaker 3>tear ducks and your eyes and burn.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you're not putting tissue directly in your eyeball. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean well, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean your your tears come out to your tear ducks.

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<v Speaker 4>Some people actually stick the tissue, right, but your dad

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<v Speaker 4>below the eyeball and then you know, you get the

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<v Speaker 4>moisturizer right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that. Yeah, it's great when you

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<v Speaker 2>have running nose or something. Especially, Yeah, when you're sick,

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<v Speaker 2>you get the running nose. You're not crying. Do you

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<v Speaker 2>put vasiline right there? Don't need to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The ali vera puts it red in It's a natural

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<v Speaker 1>plant puts it red in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's be a fan of this. Yeah, you're all naturally

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<v Speaker 2>you want to put the.

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<v Speaker 1>Chemical vaciline into there, but you're not doing the natural

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<v Speaker 1>alveras even a box from here.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's the one with the what's the one with

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<v Speaker 2>the body snatcher? So yeah, we got a body snatcher

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<v Speaker 2>Dick Ferguson in here.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just I'm just saying, I know how used you

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<v Speaker 3>have a cold? Wiping too much when you're wrong on

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<v Speaker 3>your nose, it gets a little dry. And obviously talking

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<v Speaker 3>about clean aches and alabara just took me back to

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<v Speaker 3>when I was a kid. My mom had like this

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<v Speaker 3>this remedy, right, And I don't know where.

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<v Speaker 2>It came from.

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<v Speaker 3>I think maybe mom's passing down, But I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>was always chicken soup Cambo's chicken soup.

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<v Speaker 2>Put all that damn sodium.

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<v Speaker 3>In it, right, Canada dry ginger real right, has no

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<v Speaker 3>ginger in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Nope at all. Right, So the Redheads aren't cattibalizing themselves.

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<v Speaker 5>No, no.

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<v Speaker 4>And then it was Vic's vapor roupe. The rub it

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<v Speaker 4>on your chest and on your throat. Yeah, an old

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<v Speaker 4>old time cure for the dark agent.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll tell you man, that's what My mom would just

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<v Speaker 3>stick their hand in that little bluetube and just come

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<v Speaker 3>out with a hand full of.

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<v Speaker 2>U And it was right. I put it on your chest,

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<v Speaker 2>in your back, and they were like you good. See

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<v Speaker 2>in the hells of Ohio. My parents would just give

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<v Speaker 2>me a little shot of whiskey, shut me up, and

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<v Speaker 2>you go right to see your throat. How does that help?

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<v Speaker 1>Try to picture hand your old grant looking for the

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<v Speaker 1>pappy that wapel back there.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a cold. We were a little too poor

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<v Speaker 2>for that. We were more of a gym bean family.

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<v Speaker 2>Give it the bird the wild.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, Gray, that's one hell of a remedy because I've never.

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<v Speaker 2>Heard of that before.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, Pappy's warl cross syrup, you never heard that. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you do the you do the you know the lemon

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<v Speaker 1>and honey. You think you said you put a little

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<v Speaker 1>shot of bourbon in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Never yeah, oh yeah, yes, lemon and honey burbon, not

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<v Speaker 2>some right out of your throat just too. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I can grow this beard, and then that's right that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was denied the alcohol version. So that way, that's

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<v Speaker 4>the remedy for Ben. If you want to grow in

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<v Speaker 4>space your.

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<v Speaker 2>Hair, it's a lemon, honey and subourbon. That's why forty

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<v Speaker 2>years old it looks like I have alopecia.

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<v Speaker 1>Five six text slide speaking of Dry, the Rocks run

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<v Speaker 1>game coming up? Dry, who's gonna be here next year?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's the May figures to be here because

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<v Speaker 1>he's on the rookie deal. But are we bringing Javonte

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<v Speaker 1>Julil back? Do we need a clean house?

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<v Speaker 2>What do we need to do here?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that you need to uh necessarily clean house.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the first thing to do before you come

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<v Speaker 3>up with that idea, Ben, is go back and reevaluate

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<v Speaker 3>what's been going on with the running back position and say, well, well,

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<v Speaker 3>these guys are not adequate enough to get the job done.

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<v Speaker 3>Because when you look at Javonte Williams. Right, like when

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<v Speaker 3>he first came into the league. Obviously he rushed for

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<v Speaker 3>almost almost thousand yards or four touchdowns. He suffers the injuries,

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things happened that changed a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>as far as how the team utilized his ability.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, he had the.

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<v Speaker 3>Same amount of touchdowns this year as he had in

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<v Speaker 3>year one, and two of those touchdowns he got on

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<v Speaker 3>a Thursday night game against the New Orleans Saints against.

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<v Speaker 2>The team that was short handed, shorthanded, notorious for giving

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<v Speaker 2>up plays. And by the way, that was the.

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<v Speaker 3>First time all season a long that Jafonte actually scored

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<v Speaker 2>So my question is, here's a bigger question.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you look at the fact that that the Broncos

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<v Speaker 3>have not had a thousand, nine thousand yard rusher one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yard rusher in a game. That's right in the

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<v Speaker 3>Champagnon errawor the last time they did it was with

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<v Speaker 3>the Sean Payton's guy and he did it. There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Latavious Murray was the last person, right, And do you

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<v Speaker 3>remember what happened during that time, because Latavious rushed for

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<v Speaker 3>I think one hundred and three yards against Arizona then

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<v Speaker 3>they play the Rams on Christmas Day and that's when Nata.

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<v Speaker 1>You got diausted because you had the offensive line fighting

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<v Speaker 1>Brent Rippan on the sideline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, zact, let it rip our hYP Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's kind of crazy to know that the Broncos

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<v Speaker 3>haven't had a one hundred yard rusher in a single

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<v Speaker 3>game from a single player since twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>It barely had fifty yard rushers all year. Uh you

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<v Speaker 1>look at you look at the running backs this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Javonte Everage thirty yards a game, Chili leverage thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>yards a game. Estimate twenty three yards a game. That

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't even it barely adds up to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Hundred by itself. Okay, but my biggest question doesn't add

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<v Speaker 2>up to one hundred. It does my math. So even

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to that's eighty four yards a game

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<v Speaker 2>between the three of them, exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So, even if you want to change the running backs

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<v Speaker 3>for the Denver Broncos, right, you got to change the

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<v Speaker 3>philosophy as well. And what I mean by that is

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<v Speaker 3>going back and watching a Buffalo game I find to

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<v Speaker 3>be refrustrating to watch. Savante gets a carry rush for

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<v Speaker 3>five yards, He's taken out. You had taler Berday come in,

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<v Speaker 3>he rushed for seven yards and he's taken out.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm trying to understand.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the overall ideology associated with it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can help me out, those out there listening.

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<v Speaker 3>To the show, help me understand, because I don't understand it,

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<v Speaker 3>because I thought the idea was keep the ball away

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<v Speaker 3>from Josh Allen by running the ball, right what we

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<v Speaker 3>saw Coach Payton actually write that on his call sheet.

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<v Speaker 2>Run it, but it's you're not utilizing your running.

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<v Speaker 3>Backs, and everyone's asking the question as to why it

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<v Speaker 3>isn't really truly the running backs like the ability to

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<v Speaker 3>run the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the reason that.

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<v Speaker 3>The Broncos have been ineffective as far as having a

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<v Speaker 3>hundred yard rusher over the past two seasons.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know. I think it's more scheme.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's more play call than it is, UH player,

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<v Speaker 1>because we've seen these guys be able to get these

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of yards when they're given enough to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do it. My problem here is you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the draft to address this.

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<v Speaker 3>UH.

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<v Speaker 2>To add to the room. You can't add to the room.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no but First of all, in free agency's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be anybody to add what are you gonna add

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<v Speaker 1>Naji Harris on a nine million dollar deal in a

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<v Speaker 1>paying that especially not really run what would you what

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<v Speaker 1>would you add? You know, I mean the Aaron Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Naji Harris, those are the top two guys. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>it drops off a cliff, Jeff Wilson, AJ Dillon, the

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<v Speaker 1>ghost of Nick Chubb, Like that's that's what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, And then you've got Alexander Madison and then

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<v Speaker 1>you get into a whole slew of nobody's after that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's it's the free agent running back group here.

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<v Speaker 1>There's there's nobody that you want out of this group.

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<v Speaker 1>So what are you gonna have to go to the

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<v Speaker 1>draft if you're gonna do that? And I know you

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<v Speaker 1>get everybody their mother talking about asking Janty. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think he's there guy. Second of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think he's gonna be there to me, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at guys that sort of fit the mold of

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<v Speaker 1>what Sean Payton wants. O Marion Hampton out of North Carolina,

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<v Speaker 1>Caleb Johnson and Iowa Judkins at Ohio State those guys

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fit the body types when you start to

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<v Speaker 1>look at that Nick Singleton's going back to school.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, if you want like a bruising.

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<v Speaker 1>North South guy, maybe Khalil Mullings out of Michigan.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's six two two thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's like there's just not there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of room here, So it's gonna have to be you'd

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<v Speaker 1>have to make a commitment to get these guys going,

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<v Speaker 1>which and you'd think that Sean Pate would recognize that

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<v Speaker 1>because his most successful seasons came when they had a

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<v Speaker 1>strong rushing attack, not when they were slinging the ball

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<v Speaker 1>over the ark.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>But being for me, it doesn't make a difference what's

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<v Speaker 3>running back you bring in here, right, veteran or riocky.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna use them enough.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's not a steady commitment to utilizing that player's skills,

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<v Speaker 3>it really makes no sense. And the way that I

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<v Speaker 3>look at it from a defensive standpoint, it's not all

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<v Speaker 3>about how many carry there's a single running back actually

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<v Speaker 3>received in a given season or a given game to

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<v Speaker 3>me's touches, Right, I told granted this before, I look

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<v Speaker 3>at it like it's fantasy football. I need to get

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<v Speaker 3>this guy as many touches as possible because now you

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<v Speaker 3>put that on the hearts and minds of preparation for

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<v Speaker 3>defensive coordinators and players.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to stop this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not just about you know, getting in the

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<v Speaker 3>bare front and what I mean by that is gapped

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<v Speaker 3>out across the board and you're just gonna clog up

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<v Speaker 3>every gap and you're gonna say, well, we're gonna force

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<v Speaker 3>you to plug with.

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<v Speaker 2>One hand tied behind your back.

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<v Speaker 2>And you need to do that with the run game.

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<v Speaker 2>And I talked about a particular play, it was in a.

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<v Speaker 3>Second quarter, nine minutes and forty eight seconds, right.

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<v Speaker 1>As you pointed out on it, defense is on alert.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm kind of like Ben right all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, well, we know that.

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<v Speaker 3>But the idea is just like, well, well Ben loves

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<v Speaker 2>I say, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't change the defensive eyes that I develop over

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<v Speaker 3>the shotgun, you got Marvin Mims in the backfield offset

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<v Speaker 3>to the left and Javonte to the right, and I

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<v Speaker 3>know for three games you've been using him a certain

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<v Speaker 3>way and the swing passes and then he goes from

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<v Speaker 2>Something something is up.

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<v Speaker 3>So with that being said, use your strengths to your

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<v Speaker 2>I was waiting on that particular play.

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<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, Okay, well maybe Bo's gonna fake it,

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<v Speaker 3>throw it downfield, or he's gonna throw it to Marvin,

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<v Speaker 3>and Marvin's gonna throw it downfield, right, But none of.

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<v Speaker 2>None of that materialized. It didn't, and he had the

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<v Speaker 1>And it took an opportunity to put you back behind

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<v Speaker 1>You can't you can't throw the ball behind the line

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<v Speaker 1>never throw the ball behind the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 2>You just shouldn't. It's very rare place where you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>A third and long after you've gotten knocked back, you

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<v Speaker 1>might run a screenplay, but you're not throwing the You don't.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you don't unless you're gonna break your own tennessees

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<v Speaker 2>That's the only time that I would be.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're said it's a double pass or something, then yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but the intent is still to push the ball behind

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't take it like. That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Once you're getting a plus territory, you don't put yourself

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<v Speaker 3>And that's why, like when with they fake the the punt, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought, Okay, the team's gonna get some points off of that,

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<v Speaker 3>and no one is though, and then we came up

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<v Speaker 3>drying on that, right, but knowing that.

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<v Speaker 2>Points are a premium, that there was.

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<v Speaker 3>Gonna be another shot where it's gonna be another aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>move some something fleet flicker whatever it is, throw back

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<v Speaker 3>the ball, both throw back the corner. I didn't see that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Grant's parents coughser cough remedy at this point, Well, we

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<v Speaker 5>Western our tackles, help the receivers on the official home

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<v Speaker 5>of THEOS. All Right, all night, Kowa, welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to my broncost country. Tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, think Ferguson grat Smiths five six six nine

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<v Speaker 2>Time for the NFL six pack.

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<v Speaker 5>It's time for the NFL six pad. I'm gonna trade

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of insight and insight information you can't find

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<v Speaker 2>What well with the loss yesterday?

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<v Speaker 1>Contract talks with Kevin O'Connell get front and center in

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Jay Glazer's report and multiple teams are interested in

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<v Speaker 1>trading for Kevin O'Connell.

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<v Speaker 2>Certainly not idle talk. There is tension in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Relationships, stemming largely from the fact that he did not

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<v Speaker 1>get an extension after his second season. Now he's one

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<v Speaker 1>it ride if necessary and hit the market, betting.

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<v Speaker 2>On himself for one more year.

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<v Speaker 1>Entering the final Sunday of the regular season, his earning potential.

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<v Speaker 2>Was as high as it could be.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the question, Well, the two sides agree on consequences

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<v Speaker 1>of a two game tailspin, the vikings over either hand.

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<v Speaker 1>O'Connor can always say you know what I'm out, He

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<v Speaker 1>voluntarily coaches a lame duck, can make himself available to

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<v Speaker 1>anyone and everyone. In twenty twenty six, beyond money, O'Connell

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<v Speaker 1>could be looking for more, say and roster construction that

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<v Speaker 1>our alignment with the general manager in a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>when the postseason arrives.

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<v Speaker 2>But O'Connell contract obviously should.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the first order of business for the Vikings right

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<v Speaker 1>now that the season is any.

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<v Speaker 2>But will a deal be reached?

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<v Speaker 1>Will they keep him for one more year, let him

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<v Speaker 1>can if teams want to trade for him. On the surface,

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<v Speaker 1>O'Connell seems too good nature to play hardball. But his dad,

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<v Speaker 1>as many of you may or may not know, as

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<v Speaker 2>Agent who was partially responsible for.

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<v Speaker 3>So you are suggesting maybe he unlisten his dad to

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<v Speaker 3>do absolutely what Benjamin.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in the family of DNA to match wits with

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<v Speaker 1>So if the if the wolf's snowed off for Kevin,

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's a lot of teams out there that love

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<v Speaker 2>Stem from Drumbard.

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<v Speaker 3>Please the Mike sending him coaching tree and his record

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<v Speaker 3>a part ways with Kevin O'Connell, there will be some takers.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would suggest, why don't you just try to

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<v Speaker 2>For the Vikings to take over that division.

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<v Speaker 3>So make him happy, figure something out with Sam Donald

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<v Speaker 3>and just run it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, they could actually trade him to a team like,

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<v Speaker 2>Bad ball two.

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<v Speaker 1>An learn head coach who could possibly have teams interested

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<v Speaker 1>reporters about his future. He handled one specific question about

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<v Speaker 1>his future with a very specific.

428
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<v Speaker 2>And clear message.

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<v Speaker 1>Asked for his message to any team that might be

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<v Speaker 1>interested in possibly trading for him, Tomlin said, I have

431
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<v Speaker 1>no message.

432
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<v Speaker 2>Save your time.

433
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<v Speaker 1>Any coach can put the cabash on a potential trade

434
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<v Speaker 1>by refusing to engage in talks with the team that

435
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<v Speaker 1>has secured permission to negotiate with him for reaching a

436
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<v Speaker 1>deal on compensation with the coach's current team or Tomlin, Well,

437
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<v Speaker 1>I agree to a trade. If the Steelers don't want him,

438
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<v Speaker 1>they should fire him and then he can take another

439
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<v Speaker 1>job without compensation to Pittsburgh, or he can wait a

440
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<v Speaker 1>year with full pay and loom Over the twenty twenty

441
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<v Speaker 1>six coaching carousel, topic of potential trade became relevant because

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<v Speaker 1>the report regarding Tomlin's future wasn't that the Steelers without

443
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<v Speaker 1>fire Tomalin, but they're not planning to make a coach change.

444
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<v Speaker 2>Tomlin is not planning to go anywhere else voluntarily. If

445
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<v Speaker 2>you order in need of a coach.

446
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<v Speaker 1>Would you trade for either one of these guys?

447
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I would.

448
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<v Speaker 3>We're talking about coaches who have shown as though they

449
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<v Speaker 3>can win an NFL. But more importantly, think about Mike

450
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<v Speaker 3>Tomlin's team here with the Steelers, one of the longest

451
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<v Speaker 3>teams with the organization in the league at this particular moment.

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<v Speaker 2>And I know there's been a.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Whole bunch of bad characters who have come out and

454
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<v Speaker 3>made the suggestion maybe it's time that the Steelers decided

455
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<v Speaker 3>to move on.

456
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<v Speaker 2>Here's what I do know. Right, you don't quit.

457
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<v Speaker 3>One job but I'm having another job lined up.

458
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<v Speaker 2>Right, You don't break.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Up with your girlfriend unless you have another girlfriend.

460
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<v Speaker 2>On the side.

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<v Speaker 3>So why would the Stealers decide, well, Ben that Ben's

462
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<v Speaker 3>give me that smirk. Theres so make it's a little

463
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<v Speaker 3>different for one bitchmin all Bright. But why would the

464
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<v Speaker 3>Steelers have to move past a Hall of Fame coach

465
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<v Speaker 3>just to satisfy the stomach rumbling.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Of a whole bunch of bad characters. You always have

467
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<v Speaker 2>something lined up just for the next.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, wait a minute. This has always been

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<v Speaker 3>my idea of my concept. You don't mess up a

470
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<v Speaker 3>sure thing for possibly maybe let me do that.

471
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<v Speaker 2>You always have to have a sure thing on the

472
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<v Speaker 2>other side. But if we had to make it makes sense.

473
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<v Speaker 2>So why would the Steelers do this?

474
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<v Speaker 1>Unless you're me, I I'll just blow it up at random,

475
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<v Speaker 1>just to blow it up free.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of Tomlin, he doesn't know his starting quarterbacks is

478
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<v Speaker 1>going to be in twenty twenty five. Tomas said today

479
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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of unanswered questions about the future

480
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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh and that.

481
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<v Speaker 2>The quarterback position is one of them.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Thomas said he hasn't ruled out bringing back Russell Wilson

483
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<v Speaker 1>or Justin Fields are both.

484
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<v Speaker 2>He also has it ruled out moving on for both

485
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<v Speaker 2>of them bringing in a new starter.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't have a quarterback under contract, Tomlin said, We're

487
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<v Speaker 1>certainly open to considering those guys.

488
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<v Speaker 2>We have a lot of work ahead of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Shortly there after, the Steelers did sign bring in Skyler Thompson,

490
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<v Speaker 1>so they do have a quarterback under contract at least.

491
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<v Speaker 1>Thomas said the Steelers had a lot of work to

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<v Speaker 1>do before free agency of the draft to determine which

493
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<v Speaker 1>quarterbacks are available. Realistically, it's hard to believe the Steelers

494
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<v Speaker 1>would go into twenty twenty five with the Fields as

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<v Speaker 1>their starter.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about Wilson.

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<v Speaker 1>As promising of the season as it appeared at times,

498
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<v Speaker 1>no one could be satisfied, I think with the final result,

499
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<v Speaker 1>although that may or may not have been on the quarterback.

500
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<v Speaker 1>If you look, the defense really gave up the goods

501
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<v Speaker 1>against the Ravens.

502
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<v Speaker 2>SOS won advance past the wild card round.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna have to find a long term answer there eventually.

504
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<v Speaker 3>Well yeah, I mean, obviously they're going to have to

505
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<v Speaker 3>find a long term answer. I don't think if they

506
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<v Speaker 3>run him back with Russ that would be a bad idea,

507
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<v Speaker 3>right because now they can sign him to a team

508
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<v Speaker 3>fly deal and let me better, quarterbacks are getting eight

509
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<v Speaker 3>nine million dollars.

510
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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot of money to everyone else. Backup, money

511
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<v Speaker 2>is says ten million on these days.

512
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<v Speaker 1>Starting quarterbacks start in the late twenties, early thirties on.

513
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<v Speaker 2>Up to sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but at this particular point where Russ is, I'm

515
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<v Speaker 3>sure he would if the Sales offered him a two

516
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<v Speaker 3>year deal that pays him ten million dollars a year,

517
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<v Speaker 3>he would take it. Maybe maybe we once again you

518
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<v Speaker 3>asked that question.

519
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<v Speaker 2>You keep that tired down the road, But it's about.

520
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<v Speaker 3>Trying to fix your defense, add some valuable wide receivers

521
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<v Speaker 3>to go with.

522
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<v Speaker 1>The pass catchers. If yeah, whoever me is going to

523
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<v Speaker 1>be the quarterback there. That's that's that much is very obvious.

524
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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know. George Pickens is so mercurial. I

525
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<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can count on him, as you know,

526
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<v Speaker 1>he's your wide receiver one, but I don't if you

527
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<v Speaker 1>count on If you're bringing Russ back, why not make

528
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<v Speaker 1>a play for Courton Sun.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that is Hey, I'm sure the Broncos got

530
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<v Speaker 2>to pick their interests. Yeah, for the right draft pick,

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<v Speaker 2>I think everybody'd be happy there we'll see four.

532
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<v Speaker 1>The Bears completed their interview tonight with Broncos senior personnel

533
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<v Speaker 1>executive David Shaw for their vacant head coaching job.

534
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<v Speaker 2>Jaw who's fifty two.

535
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<v Speaker 1>With Stanford's head coach from twenty eleven to twenty twenty two,

536
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<v Speaker 1>compiling a ninety six and fifty four record with the

537
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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal three packed twelve conference titles. Before returning to his

538
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<v Speaker 1>own monitor coach in two thousand and seventy, he was

539
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<v Speaker 1>in his NFL assistant with the Eagles, Raiders, and Ravens.

540
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<v Speaker 1>He officially joined the Broncos back in June of last year.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears have completed interviews with interim head coach Thomas Brown,

542
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<v Speaker 1>former Seahawks coach Pete Carroll, Lions defensive coordinator Aaron Glenn,

543
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<v Speaker 1>Lands offensive coordinator Ben Johnson, Giants offensive coordinator Mike Kafka,

544
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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals offensive cordator Drew Petsing, former Commanders and Panthers head

545
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<v Speaker 1>coach Ron Rivera, and Dolphins defensive coordinator Anthony Weaver. They

546
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<v Speaker 1>also talked to Mike Rabel before the Patriots hired him.

547
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<v Speaker 1>They still have interview requests out for Iowa State at

548
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<v Speaker 1>coach Matt Campbell. Viking's defensive coordinator Brian Lawrees was believed

549
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<v Speaker 1>to be the leader in the clubhouse. There Notre Dame

550
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<v Speaker 1>head coach Marcus Freeman, Commander's offensive coordator Kingsbury, former Cowboys

551
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<v Speaker 1>coach Mike McCarthy, who will be on Wednesday, and Ravens

552
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<v Speaker 1>offensive Quardner Todd Munkin, Steven's offensive cocording to Arthur Smith

553
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<v Speaker 1>and Packer's offense acording to Adam Statovic as well. Bear's

554
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<v Speaker 1>casting a wide wide net in the search. I think

555
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<v Speaker 1>they want Ben Johnson, but the odds on favorite is

556
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<v Speaker 1>Brian Flores here.

557
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<v Speaker 2>How do you feel about that? Okay, let me go.

558
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<v Speaker 3>Back to the David Shaw situation for a second. For

559
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<v Speaker 3>those who don't really know David Shaw, and some fans

560
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<v Speaker 3>may not look at him in this way, how would

561
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<v Speaker 3>say you need to change your mind? Because I immediately

562
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<v Speaker 3>go back to Andrew Luck. And we know what Andrew

563
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<v Speaker 3>Luck was at Stanford and why the Coast Suck for

564
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<v Speaker 3>Luck campaign was such a big thing, and the time

565
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<v Speaker 3>that Andrew Luck was with David Shaw.

566
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, he said a lot of records. So even

567
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<v Speaker 2>if David.

568
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<v Speaker 3>Shaw does not become someone of a head coach in

569
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<v Speaker 3>this league. To me, I think some mu should give

570
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<v Speaker 3>him an opportunity to be an offensive coordinated because he

571
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<v Speaker 3>has shown that he has the capabilities to work with

572
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<v Speaker 3>young quarterbacks. At Chicago Bears, they have a young quarterback

573
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<v Speaker 3>in Cable Williams.

574
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I do. And and that's the thing. The question,

575
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<v Speaker 2>though there is is the run.

576
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<v Speaker 1>Of poles and whether or not you're aligned, you know,

577
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, is that is that?

578
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<v Speaker 2>First of all, here's what you have to ask yourself.

579
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<v Speaker 2>You Ryan Post, are you trying to save your job?

580
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<v Speaker 3>I'm to you there have been two head coaches who've

581
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<v Speaker 3>been fired, right, so you're trying to do whatever you

582
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<v Speaker 3>can to make your quarterback look great because you had

583
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<v Speaker 3>justin fields when you're coming.

584
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<v Speaker 2>To set him up right and your coach look great.

585
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<v Speaker 2>That's the thing. So it's it.

586
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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're a if you're a Ben Johnson,

587
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<v Speaker 1>you're taking that job.

588
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<v Speaker 2>Knowing that poll that you know that polls.

589
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, no, you know you're you're not because you

590
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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure that you have someone tied to you.

591
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<v Speaker 3>So the idea, if the Bear is going to do it,

592
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<v Speaker 3>you hire Ben Johnson and guy with Ben Johnson the Hide.

593
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<v Speaker 2>This guy, who you know a team like the Raiders

594
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<v Speaker 2>certainly has the ability.

595
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<v Speaker 5>To do five.

596
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<v Speaker 1>AJ Brown has started his one Book book club. The

597
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<v Speaker 1>one Book AJ Brown book Club has boosted Inner Excellence

598
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<v Speaker 1>to the top of the Amazon bestseller list. The e

599
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<v Speaker 1>book is nine to ninety nine and it said non fiction.

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<v Speaker 2>It was buried down there at like five hundred thousand

601
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<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>The best part of all this is at Brown's habit

603
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<v Speaker 1>of reading between drives has sparked at least interest for

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<v Speaker 1>now in reading, which can be a nice diversion to

605
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<v Speaker 1>whatever's going on in anyone else's life.

606
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<v Speaker 2>But are you buying this AJ Brown? Reading this book

607
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<v Speaker 2>on the sideline? What is with this motivational ploy?

608
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but for me, I'm like, well, if that's

609
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<v Speaker 1>what it takes to get you motivated to so be it.

610
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<v Speaker 2>I don't know that I would need that. But okay, well, once.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, your situation may be different from his, as it

612
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<v Speaker 3>may be for anyone else.

613
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<v Speaker 2>But for me, I'm like, do whatever.

614
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<v Speaker 3>Floats your boat as long as there's not a distraction

615
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<v Speaker 3>to the team.

616
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<v Speaker 2>It's not like he was eating a hot dog on

617
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<v Speaker 2>the sideline or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was a little frustrated that he was

619
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<v Speaker 3>not as involved, or if that means that he has

620
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<v Speaker 3>to go read some book.

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<v Speaker 2>Some chapters here are excellence.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever it is, as long as he's not distracting the team, what's.

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<v Speaker 2>The harm in doing it? What is it? I don't know.

624
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<v Speaker 1>I'd be listening to the take of a Granted podcast personally, well, and.

625
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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure if someone found that out, they would say, well,

626
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<v Speaker 3>why has it been You have to listen to the

627
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<v Speaker 3>take of the Granted.

628
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<v Speaker 2>Podcast to kind of get him gold because I got

629
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<v Speaker 2>to find out the latest from Grant's minute. I gotta

630
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<v Speaker 2>hear that in my life. So as much as oh

631
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<v Speaker 2>that's all I said, just say, that's what I need.

632
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<v Speaker 2>That's the motivation of my life. I need. All right,

633
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<v Speaker 2>This is a wild story here.

634
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<v Speaker 1>Last year's Wildcard game between the Dolphins and Cheese featured

635
00:27:32.960 --> 00:27:36.440
<v Speaker 1>temperatures that were pretty cold, bone and chilling cold. Some

636
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<v Speaker 1>fans who attended the game developed frostbite. There were reports

637
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<v Speaker 1>of amputations, although that specific remains unclear. A new article

638
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<v Speaker 1>from ESPN looks back at the Deep Freeze playoff game,

639
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<v Speaker 1>and it adds something new that in January twenty sixteen,

640
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<v Speaker 1>Open Air playoff game in Minnesota, the last played outdoors

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<v Speaker 1>before the opening of the dome that replaced the Metrodome.

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<v Speaker 1>The Seahawks safety Cam Chancellor's case of thing your tip

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<v Speaker 1>frostbite had amputation on the table. The Canceler said, I

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<v Speaker 1>had never had frost bite, and I was like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>are y'all gonna cut.

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<v Speaker 2>My fingers off?

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<v Speaker 1>At the time, he posted photos of his fingertips for

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<v Speaker 1>the skin peeling beneath the nail. Although he wore gloves

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<v Speaker 1>during the game, the damage occurred due to sweat that

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<v Speaker 1>froze inside the gloves. Canceler said, you're out there playing

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<v Speaker 1>that cold weather, You're out there sweating, and then once

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<v Speaker 1>you take a time out, you're standing or sitting.

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<v Speaker 2>Down, all that sweat is on you. It's cold, it

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<v Speaker 2>makes the sweat worse.

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<v Speaker 1>So the potential for playing games and ultra cold conditions

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<v Speaker 1>has obviously increased. Now the season has banded into seventeen games.

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<v Speaker 1>It will get worse if it when another game is

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<v Speaker 1>added to the schedule. As noted by ESPN, the league

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<v Speaker 1>monitors weather patterns with two or three alternate stadium reserved

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<v Speaker 1>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Event a game must be moved.

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<v Speaker 1>Given last year's weather issues at the Wildcard involving the

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<v Speaker 1>Dolphins Chiefs, which was not moved or delayed, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Steelers' bills, which was delayed by a day. The league

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<v Speaker 1>started planning for playoff weather contingencies earlier as normal this year,

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL has never had a temperature or wind chill minimum,

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<v Speaker 1>and after that, had the chance, I probably should have

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<v Speaker 1>established one. And while fans attend open air games with

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<v Speaker 1>full knowledge of the conditions and assuming full risk of

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<v Speaker 1>potential consequences, a decision to play the game at the

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<v Speaker 1>scheduled time in that venue carries with it an implication

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<v Speaker 1>that's safe for human beings to attend. Even if no

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<v Speaker 1>one could ever credibly claim that the league is a

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<v Speaker 1>legal obligation reschedule it, there's kind of a moral obligation here.

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<v Speaker 2>When do we think about Cam Chancellor getting frost.

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<v Speaker 1>Bite from playing in a game and fans getting frost

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<v Speaker 1>bite and having to have amputations just to watch football.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the idea is from the league is whatever, man,

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<v Speaker 3>Because do you remember the Ice Bowl December thirty first,

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>I rememb remember when I was in attendance, obviously thirteen

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<v Speaker 2>years before I record not.

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<v Speaker 3>From from that particular standpoint, But you can always go

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<v Speaker 3>back and google the coldest game in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the.

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<v Speaker 3>NFL is going to play games no matter what, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there was a Fighters Los Angeles that displayed

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<v Speaker 3>so many people they just moved to Arizona because the

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<v Speaker 3>game is cold and the cold climate, whether it's in

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<v Speaker 3>Green Bay, Chicago, Seattle, Denver, wherever, all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 3>that's going to change the m of the league. No.

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<v Speaker 3>And for those fans. This is why I love Broncos

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<v Speaker 3>fans because they endure the cold weather. They're out there,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, all bundle up. But I always wonder this

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<v Speaker 3>Ben right, when they build these new stadiums.

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<v Speaker 2>They make it sight state of the art.

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<v Speaker 3>Why is it that they never make like plug in

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<v Speaker 3>seats like for cold weather and you can even sell

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<v Speaker 3>them at the premium right when you can see the tickets.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean you have to make sure those seats

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<v Speaker 1>are working all Like you put heaters in the seats,

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<v Speaker 1>you get those heated cushions.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they should do, is get he could buy

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<v Speaker 2>sell those or rentals to you. Let you put those.

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<v Speaker 2>You go something and you look at the stating at

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<v Speaker 2>the Broncos.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of those places have little outlets like where you

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<v Speaker 3>could plug things in.

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<v Speaker 2>You can plug them right there, plug it, there you are,

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<v Speaker 2>there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So now you're not worried about frostbite. Carries about frost bike.

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<v Speaker 3>You have seen those those big airplane like blowers on the.

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<v Speaker 2>Sideline, the heat heat stuff on them, and then you.

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<v Speaker 1>Get those those big jackets that you could put on

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<v Speaker 1>that have the thing hooked up to him. But the

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<v Speaker 1>problem with that is just like when you if you

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<v Speaker 1>get too hot in there and you sweat, you go

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<v Speaker 1>out of the cold to do to get a chancered

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<v Speaker 1>you freeze.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what.

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<v Speaker 3>Earlier this season there were there were a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>cold games in Steve Batward and I was standing on

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<v Speaker 3>the sideline, you know, waiting to our sideline hit, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting for Steve to come.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's standing by the blower. Yeah. I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's that's a whole page right there. He was standing

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<v Speaker 2>by the blower.

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<v Speaker 5>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I said, be doing. I'm gonna pust kids here later. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you can stand there, I said, Steve, you played in Denver,

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<v Speaker 2>you used to be used to it.

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<v Speaker 3>He's like, man, oh, it's cold, cold, Yes about the heater,

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<v Speaker 3>standing by.

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<v Speaker 2>The heat and elbowing. People have to wait to stand

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<v Speaker 2>by the heater. Said that are going out there half time?

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<v Speaker 2>Well no, I'm covering myself off out a spot here.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the friendiment, all one thing to do. Yeah, push

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<v Speaker 2>the kid out of the way, just to bom you

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<v Speaker 2>from the city. Yes, the Broncos Country nine rolls side

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<v Speaker 2>up to this. Your soul is mine.
