Speaker 1: Good morning, good morning, good morning, welcome, welcome, welcome. Heat
Speaker 1: is time now for our City Matters program. We have
Speaker 1: a vice mayor of Bartlesville. We have Trevor Dorsy again
Speaker 1: with this how you do it? Said a little bit
Speaker 1: a little on the soggy side.
Speaker 2: There, I'm doing great.
Speaker 3: Then great, We're we're getting a little a little water
Speaker 3: out there. And uh, I think you said probably a
Speaker 3: little over an inche so far it was it was
Speaker 3: flat getting after it this morning. So if the lakes
Speaker 3: were a little down there not now, No.
Speaker 1: No, I guess we won't be talking about water as
Speaker 1: our headline today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Don't think uh and and uh my my hope, as
Speaker 3: I told you earlier, that we can keep it a
Speaker 3: little bit warm because I want the grass start coming on.
Speaker 3: I'm tired of having to feed hay and uh break
Speaker 3: eyes and those kind of fun things.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just too much fun.
Speaker 3: We're I want that to get behind his. Plus, it's
Speaker 3: it's baseball season. Then I got a couple of kids
Speaker 3: doing baseball and it's not real fun sitting out in
Speaker 3: the baseball park when it's thirty degrees so you know,
Speaker 3: at least fifty five or better I can.
Speaker 2: I can kind of manage.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we'll be back up there in
Speaker 1: no time.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Wind's blowing out tomorrow Sunday fifty two.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I'm thinking this morning about all the folks
Speaker 3: in Ada and Tracy Rowles, who was our former police
Speaker 3: chiefs now, no you're doing down there, city manager and Ada.
Speaker 3: They I guess maybe a little tornado or some straight
Speaker 3: line winds or something. Last night looks like it, oh
Speaker 3: tore up some stuff downtown.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I've not heard that anybody who has been injured. Hopefully
Speaker 3: that's the case. So I might be thinking about Ada
Speaker 3: and praying that everybody's okay down there.
Speaker 2: With the weather last night, we're getting into that time
Speaker 2: of year.
Speaker 3: You know, you get the fall, then you get in
Speaker 3: the spring, when you get that cold and that cold
Speaker 3: air in the warm air meeting up kind of it
Speaker 3: gets gets things a little exciting in Oklahoma.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we put it a little overtime. Hey, we did
Speaker 1: a little bit of overtime sort of with the with
Speaker 1: the I guess we tell us a little bit about this.
Speaker 1: Something kind of cool last night.
Speaker 4: Well, the BDA, we.
Speaker 3: They asked for fifteen acres in our industrial park to
Speaker 3: be transferred over to the BDA. They have an opportunity
Speaker 3: or or feel like there's a really good opportunity if
Speaker 3: we get a spec building going that we can create
Speaker 3: some jobs.
Speaker 2: And I think they are correct. I know.
Speaker 3: I'm all the time thinking about when I'm out across
Speaker 3: the state of Oklahoma or Kansas, Arkansas, wherever I'm at
Speaker 3: meeting with customers or clients, that when somebody mentions they're
Speaker 3: looking at expansion, I'm like, hey, you know, what.
Speaker 2: Would be a great place to be is a barbers
Speaker 2: buttle Columba.
Speaker 3: And in a couple of those instances, there's been opportunity
Speaker 3: where I've gotten those folks with David Woods and Chris
Speaker 3: bat should hear it over at the BDA. We've got
Speaker 3: a great team over there. They do a good job recruiting,
Speaker 3: a good job trying to expand our existing footprint with
Speaker 3: with businesses that are already here. And those instances, especially
Speaker 3: when we got the Seamens building, I thought, oh, here
Speaker 3: we got a building, let's really go parlay that into
Speaker 3: some growth. But the ceilings in that building weren't quite
Speaker 3: tall enough for certain manufacturing needs. A lot of manufacturers
Speaker 3: you need high ceilings, but the high ceilings some of
Speaker 3: them have to have those you know, cranes and so
Speaker 3: if the ceiling heights aren't right. And I know CBR
Speaker 3: is working with us to kind of provide some specs
Speaker 3: and detail on what they're hearing out there in the
Speaker 3: marketplace that the people that are looking to expand and grow.
Speaker 2: Or needings a little more universal.
Speaker 3: I think that I think it's it's going to be
Speaker 3: a really good opportunity. We've had some home runs out
Speaker 3: there in industry. Park Abb has expanded Phillips Machining, Well,
Speaker 3: that was part of last night that they will be expanding.
Speaker 3: The way they showed that broken out, you had three
Speaker 3: five acre tracks in the top track it that front's
Speaker 3: Bison Road that.
Speaker 2: Would be back to the north.
Speaker 3: You know, Phillips, we'll be able to expand over there
Speaker 3: and that'll create more jobs. As matter of fact, since
Speaker 3: we've done that and then they've left the old Seamens facility,
Speaker 3: I think they've increased their payroll.
Speaker 2: Yeah, their their.
Speaker 3: Employee headcount I think is one up about twenty so,
Speaker 3: I mean they have they have done very well. It's
Speaker 3: when when you're looking for a test case of what
Speaker 3: the BDA does that one is spot on home run
Speaker 3: a really really good opportunity. And I think once the
Speaker 3: word gets out on the street about our spec.
Speaker 2: Building that people will be talking to this. I think
Speaker 2: just from communication.
Speaker 3: You know, there's some folks in Tulsa that have outgrown
Speaker 3: their footprint and looking for space. And so I have
Speaker 3: complete confidence that David and Batch and Jared will probably
Speaker 3: as soon as we announced that the groundbreaking's happening, we
Speaker 3: may already have some.
Speaker 4: Some lease opportunities, a little flood as they say, of oportunity.
Speaker 3: And and you know, for for people who may not
Speaker 3: be aware. Out the old Sunset Industrial Park, there was
Speaker 3: some some funding that we were able to get in
Speaker 3: order to uh do a taxiway and do some additional
Speaker 3: hangar space.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a company out there, Phoenix Rising, I believe it's
Speaker 3: the name of it.
Speaker 2: Talking about that earlier.
Speaker 3: They have grown and expanded and then they have got
Speaker 3: some capital partners come in and so there's some really
Speaker 3: good opportunity there for for job growth, expansion. And with
Speaker 3: the focus the state has had on you know, the
Speaker 3: aerospace industry, we have just an incredible airport.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: You know that that got turned back over to the
Speaker 2: city I believe.
Speaker 3: Two years ago, and we were a little bit, you know,
Speaker 3: a little bit puckered up over that because Phillips Conco
Speaker 3: has always maintained that space because they used to have
Speaker 3: shuttles day lean back and forth to Houston and other places.
Speaker 3: I know there is still some P sixty six coop
Speaker 3: planes that coming in out of there, but they don't
Speaker 3: have the daily shuttles they used to. And so when
Speaker 3: they turned that back over to the city, we just
Speaker 3: hadn't had to run it for so long, and the expense,
Speaker 3: we had no idea what we were getting into, but
Speaker 3: we were able to retain you know, staffing that was
Speaker 3: direly needed. And that thing is just I think it's
Speaker 3: a it's a jewel in the crown and there's a
Speaker 3: lot of opportunity, I feel like, and we could start
Speaker 3: seeing some of that transpire hopefully, and you.
Speaker 2: Know, the b DA.
Speaker 3: Feels really good about that fifteen acres and not just
Speaker 3: the first building spec building that they could do, but
Speaker 3: you know, hopefully an additional other building. And for those
Speaker 3: out there you know, wondering where those funds come, they're
Speaker 3: not coming from the city. The b das has an
Speaker 3: account has has some funding, and I know David used
Speaker 3: to always like to refer to as as war chest.
Speaker 3: You know, initially we did the ABB building and then
Speaker 3: they purchased that and so that money was able to
Speaker 3: be reallocated into projects. Right now we have the ability
Speaker 3: and the funds to go do that spec building and
Speaker 3: again hopefully if somebody comes in and least of that, maybe.
Speaker 2: They they hear that real quick.
Speaker 3: And then maybe we can continue and do an additional
Speaker 3: spec building and keep moving and navigating that way.
Speaker 1: That'd be great. Yeah, that would be great. Hey, I
Speaker 1: know you had a workshop one that did not long ago.
Speaker 1: It was on those flock cameras here. I hope I'm
Speaker 1: not putting you on the spot here, but uh, it
Speaker 1: was a workshop, so really nothing got decided. But I
Speaker 1: understand that with these cameras, they're license plate readers. They're
Speaker 1: not surveillance video cameras at this point, or will they
Speaker 1: be until somebody pulls out those cameras and put us
Speaker 1: a different kind of camera in there.
Speaker 4: But where's it going.
Speaker 1: I mean, this was something that was agreed upon a
Speaker 1: year or so ago. We had a change with the
Speaker 1: city council, and now folks want to a redo on this.
Speaker 3: It appears well, yes, the council, previous council I think
Speaker 3: passed this or made the agreement back in October of
Speaker 3: twenty four, okay, And leading up to that, there was
Speaker 3: several months I don't know whether it was three or
Speaker 3: four months of discussion where Chief Ackleberry brought it, you know,
Speaker 3: before the council to discuss. There was obviously meetings with
Speaker 3: the city councilmen and others in the community. At that point,
Speaker 3: we didn't have a lot of the forums that we've
Speaker 3: had since the council had changed over. But you know,
Speaker 3: we were informed about those cameras.
Speaker 4: What they do.
Speaker 3: You know, they're licensed, so it's a license plate reader,
Speaker 3: and there's already cameras that are out there like that
Speaker 3: the state.
Speaker 1: I went to Illinois over the weekend and I had
Speaker 1: to but to get one in Venida. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I didn't smile at nothing went away.
Speaker 3: For fifteen years, Flock's been around and it's in forty
Speaker 3: two states, five thousand municipalities. So I don't know that
Speaker 3: we're necessarily late to the show, but we're you know,
Speaker 3: we weren't one of the first, and so we've got
Speaker 3: we've got data, we've got information, and you are correct,
Speaker 3: it does take a picture.
Speaker 2: Of your license play.
Speaker 3: And you know, these cameras have been pretty instrumental. You know,
Speaker 3: an LPR camera was what allowed the culprit that that
Speaker 3: may have been on the golf course looking to take
Speaker 3: our our now presidents live was able to be captured
Speaker 3: within an hour of that incident.
Speaker 2: You gotta worry that because of the because of an
Speaker 2: LPR camera.
Speaker 3: So I think they are available, and we've already seen
Speaker 3: in our community the two abductions we were able to
Speaker 3: used those cameras to help with that, and two murder cases.
Speaker 4: And it's all in just six months.
Speaker 3: And we've had it for we've had it for a
Speaker 3: limited time. And I know when we first started talking
Speaker 3: about these cameras as a council, I reached out to
Speaker 3: several municipalities or counties that are using these and all
Speaker 3: of those everybody that I talked to in law enforcement
Speaker 3: had a lot of really good stories about, hey, we
Speaker 3: were able to capture this guy or you know their
Speaker 3: their theft is down by you know, statistically, this is
Speaker 3: down statistically h TPD.
Speaker 2: We did a.
Speaker 3: Forum or I guess just a community event at Oklahoma
Speaker 3: Wesleyan University and we had TPD there. We had to
Speaker 3: flog folks there so people were able to ask questions.
Speaker 1: And you know, you talk about TPD, I understand that
Speaker 1: they've had pretty good success.
Speaker 3: Yeah they well they for the second time, at least,
Speaker 3: I think the second time, they had solved every murder
Speaker 3: in their city last year. You know, Tulsa obviously is
Speaker 3: bigger than Barsville. They have two hundred and thirty two cameras.
Speaker 3: We do not we have ten, and again that that
Speaker 3: could help capture bad guys coming into town and leaving town.
Speaker 3: We know when somebody comes into town, if that tag hits,
Speaker 3: that says, hey, this person was involved in a murder
Speaker 3: or abduction or whatever you know.
Speaker 2: On TPD.
Speaker 3: I think they the officer whye told me about which
Speaker 3: makes sense now. And I do a lot of traveling
Speaker 3: for my work and being in Tulsa a lot. You'll
Speaker 3: see a TPD officer get behind you for a little
Speaker 3: bit and they stay behind you.
Speaker 2: I always wondered, well, you know what, they.
Speaker 3: Have software that will take a picture of your license
Speaker 3: plate and then it pulls it to the computer or
Speaker 3: you know, laptop in the car. If you've got outstanding ticket,
Speaker 3: it's warrants anything, it'll it'll flag that so that they
Speaker 3: can pull you over and see yeah, and so I
Speaker 3: don't we don't have that capability or software. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's kind of the same thing license plate reader, but
Speaker 3: it's it's mobile. Our our cameras aren't mobile. It's going
Speaker 3: to take a still picture of your play and in
Speaker 3: doing so, your plate's probably never going to be pulled.
Speaker 3: Right if you're not involved in any sort of crime.
Speaker 3: I think off Sir Elkins gave an example, and I
Speaker 3: don't know if there's a theft at Walmart and they
Speaker 3: were looking for like.
Speaker 2: A silver silver auto truck and.
Speaker 3: There was kind of twenty that that were similar possible matches,
Speaker 3: and then they were able to pare it down to
Speaker 3: just that one license plate, which then wild get pulled
Speaker 3: and go in a what did they call a jacket,
Speaker 3: which is their file for the particular potential crime that
Speaker 3: they're investigating. So you know, again a lot of communities
Speaker 3: are using them. If it's been around for fifteen years,
Speaker 3: I would think at this point if there was problems
Speaker 3: with it, that somebody that had been charged with a
Speaker 3: crime would try to fight it and get it thrown
Speaker 3: out because of that, And if you weren't able to
Speaker 3: listen in to the recent forum on the twenty fourth
Speaker 3: or attendant personally, our city attorney gave a lot of
Speaker 3: detail on the Fourth Amendment, and I believe, based on
Speaker 3: the case law that he stated that we are not
Speaker 3: infringing on your Fourth Amendment rights. And I certainly think
Speaker 3: you're on a public road. Yeah, we're not surveilling people.
Speaker 3: We don't have somebody sitting at a cubicle that's watching
Speaker 3: where you're traveling or what you're doing. And again, nobody
Speaker 3: ever pulls those tags unless there is a crime and
Speaker 3: there's a reason to look at tags.
Speaker 1: It's not like hey, it looks like Marvin's going to
Speaker 1: the liquor store. Yeah, Or it's not like a you know,
Speaker 1: Jinny has been talking with the mailman a little too long.
Speaker 4: No, that none of that is going on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and speaking with you know, various people throughout our community.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of the business community. Folks like
Speaker 3: it because it can hopefully deter theft, can deter a
Speaker 3: lot of things. I think some people, as they are
Speaker 3: kind of up tied about them, I feel like it
Speaker 3: will only continue with facial recognition, and then you know
Speaker 3: they can be used to take at you for not
Speaker 3: using it, not wearing a seatbelt, or running a stop sign.
Speaker 1: So the concern is possible progression, future, future progression.
Speaker 3: And you know, to my knowledge, I think again through
Speaker 3: that forum and the forum at OKWU that you got
Speaker 3: to hear some of the council's thoughts, and to my knowledge,
Speaker 3: there's not a counselman that wants to do facial recognition
Speaker 3: or use this software in order to tick at people
Speaker 3: for for not having us wearing their seat.
Speaker 2: Belt or see it's a bit tedious.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems a bit tedious.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, these cameras aren't aren't here to do
Speaker 3: the officers jobs.
Speaker 4: They are.
Speaker 2: Oser white.
Speaker 3: From the TVD I think gave the best quote, it's
Speaker 3: it's like a small snippet of DNA. In most of
Speaker 3: the murder cases, and he talked about three they had
Speaker 3: a witness or someone that said, hey, you know it's
Speaker 3: a white they think it's a white Toyota camera. Well,
Speaker 3: then they can go to ring doorbells, Hey there's a
Speaker 3: white camera on the street the night of the shooting.
Speaker 2: And then they go from there.
Speaker 3: To uh a particular intersection where there may be an
Speaker 3: LPR camera. Well, then they get a tag. Well, then
Speaker 3: they go to QT and they get that car in
Speaker 3: the QT parking lot and actually have footage of the
Speaker 3: suspect and QT. And then and they go across the
Speaker 3: street to CBS. Well they circle the parking lot at CBS.
Speaker 3: So I think it's it's like a small snippet of DNA,
Speaker 3: as Officer White said, and they can just take that
Speaker 3: small snippet to keep working that case to figure out,
Speaker 3: you know, and solve the crime.
Speaker 1: All right, we got just a little bit of time left.
Speaker 1: Anything else you'd like to add from last night.
Speaker 3: Well, we always I always like to talk about openings,
Speaker 3: and I did.
Speaker 4: That's right, we need those.
Speaker 2: I did get a chance to talk with a constituent.
Speaker 3: We have one opening on the park board, one opening
Speaker 3: on the Streets and Traffic Committee, and one opening on
Speaker 3: the White Road Cemetery board. And talking with that constituent,
Speaker 3: I said, hey, we love whenever we have citizens in
Speaker 3: our community that want to serve. That's what we need.
Speaker 3: That's what those committees are for. That's how we understand
Speaker 3: and know what's going on, what the community wants. I mean,
Speaker 3: we get people from the community, and obviously you want
Speaker 3: them to have passions for whatever committee that is, whether
Speaker 3: it's streets, parks, Library, Trust Authority, the museum. I mean,
Speaker 3: we have a lot of committees and we have a
Speaker 3: lot of people that are willing to serve, and so
Speaker 3: we're grateful for that. But if you have you know,
Speaker 3: if you have some love for a certain area and
Speaker 3: energy for something, then we would love for you to
Speaker 3: to You can go to the city website, or you
Speaker 3: can go up and see Lane and I'm sure we'd
Speaker 3: be happy to get you an application to serve on
Speaker 3: at least those three openings right now is what we have,
Speaker 3: and we got some some things coming up this month.
Speaker 2: March eighth, we have.
Speaker 3: A surplus auction, so Saturday, if you if you've ever
Speaker 3: wanted to own a fire truck, maybe.
Speaker 4: Bring some cash, bring your checkbook, no credit cards for.
Speaker 2: Me, Maybe that's maybe that's your opportunity.
Speaker 3: And we're going to have a budget workshop coming up
Speaker 3: on April to twenty eighth, so uh, you know that
Speaker 3: that's always a big one.
Speaker 2: The budget.
Speaker 3: I think a budget book last year was don't catch
Speaker 3: me fibbing, but I think it was around nine hundred pages, so.
Speaker 4: We typically forklift.
Speaker 3: We typically a council get that, you know, a few
Speaker 3: weeks early, because it takes some time to delve through
Speaker 3: all of that.
Speaker 2: You know, we've got each.
Speaker 3: Department, each area has a budget, and thankfully we have
Speaker 3: a good city staff and a team. I know Jason
Speaker 3: Munger's always maybe not eager, but he's always willing to
Speaker 3: sit down with you and and go through a lot
Speaker 3: of the budget book if you have questions. And so
Speaker 3: this will be, I guess my eighth year of doing this,
Speaker 3: so I've kind of started to get a better understanding
Speaker 3: of all that. That first year it seems, you know,
Speaker 3: pretty overwhelming when you get a nine hundred page and
Speaker 3: I that's what I do every day for a living
Speaker 3: is look at uh, you know, tax returns and p
Speaker 3: and ls and proformas and you name it. But they're
Speaker 3: typically not nine hundred pages worth.
Speaker 2: So it is a lot.
Speaker 3: And we we last night got a couple of street
Speaker 3: improvements that will be going on. One of them will
Speaker 3: be Yell Drive from East Frankfois Boulevard to southeast Adam's Boulevard,
Speaker 3: and the other will be Madison Boulevard off of Tuxedo
Speaker 3: to the water tower, so it doesn't get all the
Speaker 3: way to Minnesota. But I got to think here in
Speaker 3: the future, we'll get that last leg done. But Minnesota
Speaker 3: has been resurfaced from Madison back to seventy five, and
Speaker 3: if you hadn't been out on that road, it's it's
Speaker 3: very nice. So and I know that that road was
Speaker 3: in need of improvement, and there is you know traffic.
Speaker 3: I know a lot of times when I go to
Speaker 3: go to do her, I'm coming back into town from Dewey,
Speaker 3: I either take that Minnesota to Madison to get home,
Speaker 3: or I loop out there at pumping Pede's go around
Speaker 3: and hit Bison. So but that oh, there is a
Speaker 3: Let me tell everybody, there's a sidewalk grant.
Speaker 2: So if you have.
Speaker 3: A sidewalk that is you know, in need of some
Speaker 3: repairs right now, it's a good opportunity for take advantage.
Speaker 3: I know I've had some constituents that have reached out
Speaker 3: in the past, and so I immediately thought of all
Speaker 3: of them after the meeting and texted them and said, hey,
Speaker 3: if there's you know, there's the sidewalk grant. If you
Speaker 3: get on the city website, you can apply if you
Speaker 3: need any help.
Speaker 2: Please reach out and.
Speaker 3: I make sure that that grant is available through the fifteenth.
Speaker 3: So today's what's the fourth, So you've got a couple
Speaker 3: of days to get that application in.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you own.
Speaker 3: A home and you own a lot, if there's sidewalk
Speaker 3: on it, that's technically a responsibility.
Speaker 2: But I do know that with this grant it.
Speaker 3: Can help some people right now to offset that cost
Speaker 3: so they're not coming out of pocket. And so I
Speaker 3: would encourage anybody, and I know a couple of my constituents.
Speaker 3: It was around some of the schools and it would
Speaker 3: be great to have those sidewalks repaired so that there's
Speaker 3: a lot of students walking back and forth school. Then
Speaker 3: they're not having to deal with sidewalks that may need
Speaker 3: they need some upkeep and maintenance.
Speaker 4: Very good, do you ever, Thanks for being with us.
Speaker 2: Always good to be here and good to see you.