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<v Speaker 1>Hello everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Poker Goo A Podcast. My name is Donnie Peters. It

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<v Speaker 1>is Saturday, May thirtieth. It is one oh seven am,

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<v Speaker 1>nice and late here in Las Vegas. I gotta say

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<v Speaker 1>the weather has been damn awesome for the start for

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<v Speaker 1>the first week of the twenty twenty six World Series

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<v Speaker 1>of Poker. A fun episode ahead. I'll hit on the

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<v Speaker 1>big reveal that happened today for the new w SP

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<v Speaker 1>Grand Arena. Also got a couple of guests coming up

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in the show. We got Daniel Gebbo,

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<v Speaker 1>winner of the five K. We spoke with him earlier

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<v Speaker 1>in the day, so we'll put that into the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>I also got a nice, long one sit down with

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Palmer, you know, a fun, colorful personality in the

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<v Speaker 1>poker world. Somewhat polarizing out there as well, but we

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<v Speaker 1>had a good sit down almost thirty minutes with good

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<v Speaker 1>If you see poker Go Donnie, that is me. I

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<v Speaker 1>take my chips, but I will guarantee you that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to take your chips first. Up today, I do

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<v Speaker 1>want to just mention the big reveal that happens inside

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<v Speaker 1>the Paris Ballroom. The curtain was dropped. You had CEO

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<v Speaker 1>of the WASIP, Ty Stewart was up there. You had

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Platt, the MC of the WASIP up there. President

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<v Speaker 1>of Poker Go Escandani was up there as well. Justin Garone,

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<v Speaker 1>who is the president for Blueprint fifty two, he was

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<v Speaker 1>up there as well. Blueprint fifty two is the casino

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<v Speaker 1>and Studio Furnishing's arm of PokerGO that built this monstrosity

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<v Speaker 1>of a set that spans like it's basically the size

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<v Speaker 1>of a football field. And I'm not joking that the

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<v Speaker 1>room that it's in, it goes wall to wall on

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<v Speaker 1>each side. The room is two hundred and thirty eight

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<v Speaker 1>buffer on each side, so let's call it two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>feet long. I mean, I know it's not completely a

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<v Speaker 1>football field, but it's pretty damn closed. It's got five

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<v Speaker 1>feature tables, It's got a cluster of twelve tables in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of those five feature tables are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>shaped like a horseshoe type of shape. They are all

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<v Speaker 1>rfid'd out. They got all the cameras, all the bells

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<v Speaker 1>and whistles. I believe I heard justin say there's a

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<v Speaker 1>million and a half feet of LED tape. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>there's LED from as far on the left as you

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<v Speaker 1>It all wraps around smooth curves that go around, so

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really look like anything starts or stops. It's very

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<v Speaker 1>kind of free flowing throughout there. It's got two levels

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<v Speaker 1>to it. There's the floor level that you know, ropes

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<v Speaker 1>around where all the feature tables are, so you can

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<v Speaker 1>stand there. But if you want a higher vantage point,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a little balcony that goes around as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's pretty darn awesome. Oh and then of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, right in front of the cluster of twelve tables,

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<v Speaker 1>there is the the WSP pregame show set that's its

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<v Speaker 1>own little kind of mini stage up there. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing is awesome. If you got to check it

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<v Speaker 1>out down there, it's incredible. If you haven't, in your coming,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you really like it. Hopefully I didn't over

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<v Speaker 1>sell it, but the thing is damn awesome. I am

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<v Speaker 1>not easily impressed by a lot of this stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>am a hard critic, but this thing absolutely blew me

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<v Speaker 1>up when I saw it in person. I am happy

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<v Speaker 1>now that everyone gets to see it, and it also

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<v Speaker 1>makes me feel like the twenty twenty six World Series

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<v Speaker 1>of Poker is finally one hundred percent alive. The heart

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<v Speaker 1>is beating, the heart is racing as far as I'm concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are ready to freaking go. First thing I

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<v Speaker 1>want to get into today Daniel Gebba's redemption in the

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<v Speaker 1>five k nolam at hold Him. I told you guys

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<v Speaker 1>on the last show that Daniel Gebba is the type

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<v Speaker 1>of player that when he gets hot, big things can happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and Geba did just that. He topped a field of

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and seventy entries to win half a million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars five hundred and two thousand dollars in his pocket

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<v Speaker 1>largest career score by a lot, his first Gabisop Gold

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<v Speaker 1>brace and when I mentioned the redemption, that is because

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<v Speaker 1>two years ago Geba got six in this very event

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<v Speaker 1>for one hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. He is a

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<v Speaker 1>member of the chip Leader Coach and Crew. Chance Corneth

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<v Speaker 1>the head of chip Leader Coaching. He was on the

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<v Speaker 1>rail for the entire final table, sweating Gebba. Fox enjoined

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<v Speaker 1>later on. Foxen was busy playing in the twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>K Heads Up Championship, but then both Cornith and Foxen

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<v Speaker 1>jumped into the Winter photo flanking Gebba as he celebrated

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<v Speaker 1>there and posed with his first Dobasopy gold bracelet. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a pleasure to talk with Daniel Gebba afterwards. We

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<v Speaker 1>joked on our way from from the final table over

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<v Speaker 1>to the interview area where we were going to set

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<v Speaker 1>up with him. You know that just I had played

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<v Speaker 1>with him over the years, you know I had obviously

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<v Speaker 1>commentated on some of his stuff, and he was like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thanks for thanks for keeping up the image

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<v Speaker 1>telling people how much of a wild man am. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, you are kind of wild man. That's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of how you play. I mean when we played

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<v Speaker 1>together I saw some hands and I was like, wow, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy's out there. Got to adjust my strategy. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, as we talked about, he's somebody who he

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<v Speaker 1>plays a certain style because he loves it and that's

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<v Speaker 1>the way that he believes the game should be played.

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<v Speaker 1>So really really cool to hear from Daniel Gebba. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into that right now. Two years ago this

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<v Speaker 1>very event, you had a deep run sixth place, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and seventeen thousand dollars. You feel a sense of

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<v Speaker 1>redemption now that you were back on that stage and

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to close it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I actually didn't think about that, but it's, uh,

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<v Speaker 3>the player I was then versus the player I am

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<v Speaker 3>now is you know, wildly, wildly different. It was quite

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<v Speaker 3>insane circumstances. But back then I think I just started

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<v Speaker 3>working with the chipular coaching the chance, so then you're

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<v Speaker 3>just making the final table. Back then it was just insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Every page jump was like life changing like so, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess it's pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Harh.

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<v Speaker 3>You came back and you know, won the same event.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nice.

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<v Speaker 1>Your playing style is an exciting one, aggressive, fearless. You're

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<v Speaker 1>certainly someone who you know you're you're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>ever hold back, right, You're always going to go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Why does that approach fit you?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the approach.

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<v Speaker 3>Is the right way to play, honestly. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>think the poker is very dynamic and the human psychology

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<v Speaker 3>aspect of it, the fact that you're playing against humans

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<v Speaker 3>is extremely relevant. So knowing how to adjust against the

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<v Speaker 3>ever changing circumstances that I at a poker table is

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<v Speaker 3>very important. So, you know, sometimes you got to put

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<v Speaker 3>them in tough spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in two thousand and three, I did a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of digging. You responded to a post on social

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<v Speaker 1>media from chip Leader Coaching, and you said, the moment

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<v Speaker 1>you start second guessing yourself, it's over rule number one

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<v Speaker 1>in poker, do not hesitate. You know that philosophy seems

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<v Speaker 1>to really perfectly match your play. Why is that mindset

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<v Speaker 1>important to you to not hesitate, to always kind of

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<v Speaker 1>trust yourself and go for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's extremely important. I think that's one

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<v Speaker 3>of the things that you know. I think Alex Foxon

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<v Speaker 3>is the best in the world at probably the best

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<v Speaker 3>at or as in terms of performing and going with

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<v Speaker 3>the with your instinct not second guessing yourself, not overthinking

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<v Speaker 3>in a game where which requires a lot of thinking.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's you know, and it's incomplete information. So I think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's having the confidence in your abilities and trusting your

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<v Speaker 3>intuition is something that you can't learn. You have to train,

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be out here, you have to grind,

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<v Speaker 3>no other substitute for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always kind of an inflection point in a tournament,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when when you start to kind of think, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like maybe this is the one, maybe it's gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's starting to all come and work in

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<v Speaker 1>my favor. Was there kind of a moment in this

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<v Speaker 1>tournament when you thought, okay, like it's getting real, I

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of chips, like I'm making a run,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm this far away, Like, you know, when does that

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<v Speaker 1>start to happen for you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's funny, I almost didn't play this tournament.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've played the first bullet, I busted one hand

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<v Speaker 3>off bagging and then the next day. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 3>or you know, having that feeling, I think it was.

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<v Speaker 3>This tournament went by pretty fast. There wasn't that many players.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you've been around this game for for you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the door several times. What does this victory mean

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it means this victory is it's literally a dream

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<v Speaker 3>come true. I said that earlier. You know, I've been

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<v Speaker 3>that you have to go through, most people would refuse

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<v Speaker 3>if they actually realized what it would be, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>the mental game, aspect, performance strategy, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the different plateaus you go through, right, you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>being able to get to this point means means a lot,

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<v Speaker 3>it means, it means everything. Yeah, it wasn't all a waste,

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<v Speaker 3>if you will.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, poker journeys are never easy. As you just mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>along the way, any people who you would say, are

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, obviously the chips are coaching Chance and

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<v Speaker 3>fox and Chance literally changed my life. I was just

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm glad to repay that, repay the trust, and

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<v Speaker 3>so yeah, I'll always be grateful for that. And then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Alex Foxon is I think the best poker player,

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<v Speaker 3>tormo poker player in history, so getting to learn from

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<v Speaker 3>him is invaluable. And yeah, so it's been that's as

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<v Speaker 3>far as the strategy said. Yeah, that's those two have

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<v Speaker 1>J We're not even through the first week yet, You've

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<v Speaker 1>Do you view it as okay? The summer is a

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<v Speaker 1>success or are you like okay, I'm hungry for more.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to control myself. Here the HURK looking at

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the hunter Ka. It looks looks looks interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh yeah, no, I do have to you know, bankle

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<v Speaker 3>management has never been my expertise or something that I

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<v Speaker 3>have excelled at, so I have to be careful kind

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<v Speaker 3>of you know, now blast off five bullets in the

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five k. So yeah, it's but I'm gonna play.

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<v Speaker 3>I would like to play. I'm probably not gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>a full summer grind, but uh, you know, I'll play

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<v Speaker 3>some of the bigger stuff and then obviously excited for

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<v Speaker 3>the main event that's gonna be amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>And then last question here, when you look back on

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<v Speaker 1>this tournament, this win years from now, let's say, five, ten,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years down the road, what are you gonna remember

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<v Speaker 1>most about it?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So the crazy thing about something like this is like

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<v Speaker 3>it just goes by so fast that you're so like

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<v Speaker 3>focused and you're locked in, you're not really paying attention

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<v Speaker 3>or like being in the moment as much. I think

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<v Speaker 3>I did a good job this time. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think at the I would say the moment I'll always

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<v Speaker 3>remember is like right after I won, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>had like fox with a chance standing there and I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like holding a bracelet. It's felt pretty surreal, felt like

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<v Speaker 3>a weird, like sim thing, like, oh, okay, that's crazy

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<v Speaker 3>that I'm here, And yeah, it's pretty cereal.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Daniel Gebba, a really cool cat, somebody who's

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<v Speaker 1>been in the game for six years now. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>his biggest career score, he's got his first bracelet. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also one of those players you know, put him in

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<v Speaker 1>the same sort of stylistic vein as an Alex Foxen

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<v Speaker 1>as a Jesse lonaz As. If you want to take

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<v Speaker 1>it a little bit more old school Vanessa Selbs like

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<v Speaker 1>he's just gonna have the pedal to the floor, pressing

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<v Speaker 1>on the gas. He's not going to miss an opening

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of taking a shot there. That's just how

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<v Speaker 1>he likes to play. That's how he wants to play.

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<v Speaker 1>And when those types of players get hot. I said it,

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<v Speaker 1>big things can happen. A big thing happened here. But

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<v Speaker 1>now going forward, now the fact that he's got half

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<v Speaker 1>a million dollar score here. Right at the start of

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<v Speaker 1>the summer, he said, Bankroll's not his strongest trait. Bankroll

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<v Speaker 1>management should say is not his strongest trait. Well, don't

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<v Speaker 1>be surprised that this wouldn't be the last time that

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<v Speaker 1>we hear or see Gebba making a deep run. And

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<v Speaker 1>it could even be a bigger tournament. You know, if

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<v Speaker 1>bankroll management is not his thing, maybe he's out there

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<v Speaker 1>blast in the twenty five k a fifty k and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just going for it. Maybe if he's got chance

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<v Speaker 1>corner and Alex Foxon in his corner, you know, willing

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<v Speaker 1>to help when we know how successful those guys are,

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<v Speaker 1>so willing to help, you know, financially buy some pieces

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<v Speaker 1>that sort of stuff. I mean, this guy could do

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<v Speaker 1>some really, really big things this summer. And again it

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<v Speaker 1>was a pleasure to talk to Daniel Gebo. For as

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<v Speaker 1>much as that was good news, I do have some

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<v Speaker 1>bad news that I need to jump into. Tristan Wade's

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<v Speaker 1>a new PLO friend Josh. He did not make the

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<v Speaker 1>money in the five k PLO. So I'm sorry to

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<v Speaker 1>break it to everyone there, but I'm gonna guess that

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the last time we hear about Tristan and

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<v Speaker 1>Josh's friendship. I will try and check in with Tristan

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the summer see if anything else has happened between

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<v Speaker 1>the two. But they obviously exchange numbers. They had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot of fun chatting together. I was

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<v Speaker 1>right there for that whole interaction, So so that was

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<v Speaker 1>very cool and hopefully, you know, we get some more

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<v Speaker 1>stories out of it. Josh's busted out hany and he

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<v Speaker 1>did send it to Tristan trist and sent it to

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<v Speaker 1>me blind verse blind on the King Queen seven deuce

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<v Speaker 1>is when they got the money in. Josh had King

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<v Speaker 1>seven six five for what he flocked was top and

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<v Speaker 1>bottom pairs, so he had kings and sevens. His opponent

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<v Speaker 1>had King ten eight deuce turned two pair, but then

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<v Speaker 1>the river was a ten and that ten obviously sent

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<v Speaker 1>Josh out the door short of the money over in

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<v Speaker 1>the Mystery Mini Sorry, the Mini Mystery Millions had that backwards.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to two hundred and twenty six entries total four

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and seventy nine on day one d There

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<v Speaker 1>are two more starting fights to go. Both of them

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<v Speaker 1>are going to take place on Saturday, May thirtieth. One

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<v Speaker 1>starts at ten am, the other one starts at six pm.

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<v Speaker 1>Now ten thousand entries sounds like a lot and it

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Top fifth ten all time yet. It's not in the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten of course either. It needs thirteen thousand, one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and nine to break into that top fifteen. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say that's a foregone conclusion for sure. And then if

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<v Speaker 1>it wants to get into the top ten, eighteen thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighteen entries is what this needs to

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<v Speaker 1>get there. I think that's very likely to happen as well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I would expect this thing to get up

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty thousand, if not more. Now, normally you would

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<v Speaker 1>get in the fifth starting flight, you would get a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger number, and then in the sixth and final starting

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<v Speaker 1>fight you would get an even bigger number. But the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that these these two starting fights are on the

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<v Speaker 1>same day, it might fall that, you know, one E

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<v Speaker 1>is really big. Let's say, I mean, if if today

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<v Speaker 1>got almost forty six hundred entries, then one E is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get what six seven thousand, I feel like is

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<v Speaker 1>a ballpark number. And then you know, you'll get a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of carryover. But because it does start from or

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<v Speaker 1>at six pm, probably I don't know, another three thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand or so, But that's certainly well over ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand between those two flights. What puts this tournament up

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<v Speaker 1>over twenty thousand. That would get it into the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten all time, which is pretty crazy. And someone's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win a boatload of money. I mean, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>people are gonna win a boatload of money. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be a lot of fun to see people pull

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<v Speaker 1>the bounties in that one for what was a five

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty dollars buy in. Largest ever tournament does

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<v Speaker 1>belong to the WSP In twenty nineteen, the Big Fifty

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<v Speaker 1>generated twenty eight thousand, three hundred and seventy one entries.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of winners that we're going to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Jason Daily. He won event number four, the

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen hundred dollars Omaha High Low for his third WSOP Goldberry,

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<v Speaker 1>so that he also scooped one hundred and ninety one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Perry Green got sixth for almost thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Perry Green is ninety years old, He's got

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<v Speaker 1>three gold berry so it's on record. I believe it

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<v Speaker 1>was Stue Hunger's win in nineteen eighty one where Perry

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<v Speaker 1>Green finished second. He finished second to Stue Younger. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was the nineteen eighty one w SPEMIN events.

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<v Speaker 1>Poker dot Org did some coverage of Perry Green specifically,

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<v Speaker 1>and in one of their stories, they said that while

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<v Speaker 1>the while an official record was unavailable, he's believed being

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<v Speaker 1>Perry Green to be the oldest player ever to make

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<v Speaker 1>a soop final table. So that's pretty crazy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>even if that's not true, Perry Green doing this at

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<v Speaker 1>ninety years old, it is freaking just an incredible feat.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's out there battling thirty one thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>him over in the Casino Employees event. We did get

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<v Speaker 1>a winner. Jerome Nepple won the event for sixty four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars. Nepll is a poker dealer from New Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading through the Poker News recap of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and according to Poker News, it's Neple's second career live cash.

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<v Speaker 1>Prior to this, had one cash for six hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen dollars. I think, which is wild that he's now

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<v Speaker 1>won sixty four k and that he does plan on

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<v Speaker 1>continuing to deal at the twenty twenty six disip this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Nepple also told Poker News that he's planning a move

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<v Speaker 1>with his girlfriend to Florida and that this money is

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<v Speaker 1>life changing and will help me get debt free. So

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<v Speaker 1>congrats to Jason Daly on winning the Omaha High Load.

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<v Speaker 1>Congrats to Jerome Nepple on winning the Casino Employees Event. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>next up, I want to play for you guys a

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<v Speaker 1>special interview that I did Tonight's or last night, excuse

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<v Speaker 1>me with Nick Palma. Now, Nick Palma, he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those players who he's been a pretty popular or I

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<v Speaker 1>should say, well known figure in poker and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>growing more and more over the last few years. He's

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<v Speaker 1>quickly become a talking point in the early week here,

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<v Speaker 1>the first week here, the twenty twenty six World Series

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<v Speaker 1>of Poker. If you've been following the stuff that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>in the action the social media, you've probably seen his name.

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<v Speaker 1>You know you got Day one Sean deeb is tweeting

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<v Speaker 1>in a video with Phil Helmy with Phil Mey saying,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy called me a pansy.

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<v Speaker 4>So there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>I asked Nick about both of those things. In the interview,

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<v Speaker 1>you also got Nick himself constantly on social media, just

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<v Speaker 1>with how with how outspoken he is, with how confident

423
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<v Speaker 1>he is, his his personality, how colorful he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a great follow on social media just

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<v Speaker 1>for the entertainment aspect, for the content aspect, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>But I wanted to get to know, like, like, who

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<v Speaker 1>this guy is, what makes him tick, you know, beyond

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<v Speaker 1>what we just see in headlines or what we see

429
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<v Speaker 1>on people posting on social media. He's had success in poker.

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<v Speaker 1>He wanted up as Supeagle Bracelet in twenty twenty five,

431
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<v Speaker 1>but it wasn't online bracelet, and you know, according to him,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll get into that. But it's like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things where yes, I have this, but I need

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<v Speaker 1>to win a live one. I just think that Nick

435
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<v Speaker 1>Palmer is one of the most fascinating personalities in poker

436
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<v Speaker 1>right now. You know, whatever side of the fence you're

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<v Speaker 1>on with him, because he can be a bit polarizing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just the nature of his persona, the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>his attitude. I wanted to sit down with him. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn more about who he is, what drives

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<v Speaker 1>him why he approaches the game the way that he does,

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<v Speaker 1>why he loves it so much. He's constantly saying, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I love poker. No one loves it more than me.

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<v Speaker 1>I got the biggest heart, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a longer one, but I think it's a

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<v Speaker 1>really good one, and here's my sit down with Nick Palmer.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Nick Palmer, first of all, thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>coming on the Poker Real podcast with me. The first

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I want to ask you about, so when

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<v Speaker 1>you ever walk into a room, there's just a confidence

451
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<v Speaker 1>about you. You see it on your social media, you

452
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<v Speaker 1>exude it with your attitude, your personality at the table.

453
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<v Speaker 1>Has confidence always come natural or did you have to

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<v Speaker 1>learn that throughout your life?

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<v Speaker 5>When when I was younger, my uncle always he gave

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<v Speaker 5>me the best advice I ever got, and he said,

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<v Speaker 5>do something. Whatever whatever you do, you do it one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred percent. You don't do it at all.

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<v Speaker 2>So everything I've ever done, I've given my I've given

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<v Speaker 2>my all, and when you give your role, I've always

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<v Speaker 2>had that confidence.

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<v Speaker 5>If I was a half asset or something, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 5>have that confidence. But anything I've ever done, I do

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<v Speaker 5>it one hundred percent or I just don't even bother

465
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<v Speaker 5>doing it?

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<v Speaker 4>Has that been your whole life, like since you.

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<v Speaker 2>Was a teenager young teenager? Yeah, okay, I like it?

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<v Speaker 5>And uh yeah, I mean like also like if you're

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<v Speaker 5>gonna do something, you better believe in yourself or why

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<v Speaker 5>even do it?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean that's true. I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there a line in your mind where confidence can

473
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<v Speaker 1>become arrogant?

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<v Speaker 2>Illusion?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean delusion? Yeah, whatever, I mean, listen in your mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe not right, but some people might look at you,

477
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<v Speaker 1>but this guy's ca this guy's arrogant, he's.

478
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<v Speaker 4>Full of himself.

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<v Speaker 1>But is that how you view it? Are you just

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<v Speaker 1>like No, I'm just supremely confident in me.

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<v Speaker 5>The truth is you have to have like a form

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<v Speaker 5>of delusion or other things, because the truth is most

483
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<v Speaker 5>people aren't gonna do what you're doing, and it takes

484
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<v Speaker 5>a lot of determination and guts to make it and

485
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<v Speaker 5>if it was easy, everyone would do it.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things I always see you say, I

487
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<v Speaker 1>mean you even told it to me and our text

488
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<v Speaker 1>messages like you love the game more than anyone. You

489
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<v Speaker 1>care about it. We know how much you talk about heart.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what makes you care so much?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 5>So The truth is, I went through a lot of

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<v Speaker 5>hardships when I was younger and I found poker as

494
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<v Speaker 5>a MIDI like a mid teenager, like thirteen, fourteen, fifteen

495
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<v Speaker 5>years old, and I lost a lot of my family

496
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<v Speaker 5>when I was younger and I found poker and so

497
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<v Speaker 5>it's just been me and poker since then. So it's

498
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<v Speaker 5>Poker's my family, and the people I met in poker

499
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<v Speaker 5>are my family.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that in your mind like an escape from what

501
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<v Speaker 4>that once was?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's basically my safe haven.

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<v Speaker 5>So basically, when I'm at the table, nothing else matters

504
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<v Speaker 5>besides me the cards and the and the players that

505
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<v Speaker 5>are around me. And it's always just been a safe

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<v Speaker 5>haven of mine. And to be honest, when I'm away

507
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<v Speaker 5>from the table, I have a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 5>hard time because I think about, you know, things that

509
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<v Speaker 5>I shouldn't be thinking about sometimes. But whenever I'm at

510
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<v Speaker 5>the table, that's why I play so much. It's like

511
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<v Speaker 5>my it's my getaway.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you feel like you're a bit of a lone

513
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<v Speaker 4>wolf in this game?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess like yes and no.

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<v Speaker 5>But the truth is, I have so many friends in

516
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<v Speaker 5>the game that I've made throughout the years. But uh,

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<v Speaker 5>I guess I have isolated myself at times because of

518
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<v Speaker 5>just things I've been through. But as I'm growing up

519
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<v Speaker 5>and getting older, I'm learning to open myself up more

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<v Speaker 5>and and it's not the truth is you are and

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<v Speaker 5>by yourself in life. I have I have people, a

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<v Speaker 5>family that took me in that I got lucky. I

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<v Speaker 5>have close friends of mine Brandon Hamlet and others and

524
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<v Speaker 5>that are always there for me. So like it can

525
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<v Speaker 5>seem like you're a lone wolf okay at times, but

526
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<v Speaker 5>the truth is, you wouldn't be anywhere in life without

527
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<v Speaker 5>the people around you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you don't mind me asking, and what

529
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<v Speaker 1>was it like growing up when you were younger and

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<v Speaker 1>you were going through some of that adversity, Like do

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<v Speaker 1>you care to elaborate on a little bit more and

532
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<v Speaker 1>just just kind of paint the picture.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, yeah, yeah, I don't know, to be honest, Like, uh,

534
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<v Speaker 5>as I was coming up, I guess I was younger,

535
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<v Speaker 5>So you don't really realize that, like the severity of

536
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<v Speaker 5>things until you get a little older. So it's given

537
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<v Speaker 5>me hard uh you know, tough skin, but it also

538
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<v Speaker 5>gives me the It gives me the resolve and like

539
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<v Speaker 5>the determination to keep fighting through.

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<v Speaker 2>No matter what.

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<v Speaker 5>Cause a lot of people have faced hardships and it

542
00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.160
<v Speaker 5>doesn't matter what happened to you. It matters what you

543
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<v Speaker 5>do after that. And and I think that's the most

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<v Speaker 5>important thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a point in life or your poker life,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, when when the game itself like almost

547
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<v Speaker 1>broke you, or maybe you thought I can't do this,

548
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<v Speaker 1>or I want to quit, or it's just too much.

549
00:28:07.160 --> 00:28:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously we know variants can be a bitch

550
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<v Speaker 1>for lack of a better term, you know, but just

551
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<v Speaker 1>going through it all, live in this life.

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<v Speaker 5>So I messed up with money in twenty eighteen with

553
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<v Speaker 5>a few people that I rectified, but that was a

554
00:28:21.839 --> 00:28:24.559
<v Speaker 5>tough time where Like, you know, I built a lot

555
00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 5>of good relationships in poker throughout the years and people

556
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<v Speaker 5>some people turn their backs on me and they wanted

557
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<v Speaker 5>to kick me when I was down, and a lot

558
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<v Speaker 5>of people would have just packed it up at that

559
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<v Speaker 5>point and just gave up. But that's how That's when

560
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<v Speaker 5>you find out who you really are and the real

561
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<v Speaker 5>people around you, and you keep going and even since then,

562
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<v Speaker 5>you know, you go through down swings.

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<v Speaker 2>It happens to everyone.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd like to say, like, I like to not compare myself,

565
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<v Speaker 5>but it's like a Michael Jordan or a Derek Jeter.

566
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<v Speaker 5>Derek Jeter, you know, he goes to the plate, you know,

567
00:28:56.880 --> 00:28:58.319
<v Speaker 5>thirty forty times in a row.

568
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<v Speaker 2>Even he'll have some self out and stuff, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>But uh, the strong competitors and the strong people in life,

570
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.680
<v Speaker 5>they find the way and they keep going. And I mean,

571
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<v Speaker 5>if it was easy in whatever field you were in,

572
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<v Speaker 5>everyone would do it.

573
00:29:12.039 --> 00:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>And it's not easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there any other path that you could have seen

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<v Speaker 1>yourself ever choosing.

576
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 4>Like a job or a career outside of poker? Is

577
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<v Speaker 4>only this?

578
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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, well, obviously when I was younger, I wanted

580
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<v Speaker 5>to be a New York Yankee, but that wasn't going

581
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<v Speaker 5>to be a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, like a regular job, you're.

583
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<v Speaker 4>Just not good enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I was pretty good up until a

585
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<v Speaker 2>certain age.

586
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<v Speaker 5>But I mean if you're not from a place that

587
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<v Speaker 5>like place full like all the way around and all

588
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<v Speaker 5>this disadvantage. But if I were to work a regular job,

589
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<v Speaker 5>I would have wanted to be a lawyer. That's a

590
00:29:40.000 --> 00:29:42.680
<v Speaker 5>lot of schooling though, But uh, I've always been good.

591
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<v Speaker 5>I have a gift of gab as like some people

592
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<v Speaker 5>know and I could argue and uh and I'm pretty persistent,

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<v Speaker 5>and uh yeah I would be I would have wanted

594
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<v Speaker 5>to be a lawyer, but I don't want to do

595
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<v Speaker 5>eight or ten years of schooling.

596
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, a lawyer for sure.

597
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<v Speaker 4>What a I mean kind of in the vein of school.

598
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<v Speaker 1>And you know, what's been your poker study like or

599
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:07.519
<v Speaker 1>is it just you just playing through experience?

600
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<v Speaker 4>Do you study in your off time?

601
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<v Speaker 2>Like a lot of you so a lot of it

602
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<v Speaker 2>is experienced.

603
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<v Speaker 5>And then also I came up with some of the

604
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<v Speaker 5>best players of all time. I came up with Alex Foxen,

605
00:30:17.079 --> 00:30:19.440
<v Speaker 5>who might be literally the best player of all time.

606
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<v Speaker 5>I came up with Bucky Matthew Wantman, mikey Wang I

607
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<v Speaker 5>used to travel with all over Europe for two years

608
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<v Speaker 5>and he's another great mind in the game. A couple

609
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<v Speaker 5>of the younger online kids that are friends of mine

610
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<v Speaker 5>are Julian Julian.

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<v Speaker 2>Barnardis Brandon Hamlet.

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<v Speaker 5>T Slaate, Tyler Hurtfield and basically just keeping good network

613
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<v Speaker 5>in a good good group around me and just brainstorming

614
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<v Speaker 5>talking about hands with them experience online and live and yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>just a lot of experience and a lot of brainstorming

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<v Speaker 5>with some of the best minds in the game, specifically

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<v Speaker 5>like Fox and when he was coming up, Mikey Wang

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<v Speaker 5>and now my friend's Brandon Hamlet and these other kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to ask you about the heart again. You know,

620
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<v Speaker 1>what does heart mean to you? In poker?

621
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<v Speaker 2>Specifically, heart means.

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<v Speaker 5>That feeling when it's the tenth tournament in a row,

623
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<v Speaker 5>when you're deep and they take it away from you,

624
00:31:19.759 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 5>and you could pack it up and give up, or

625
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:26.519
<v Speaker 5>you could learn from what happened and you just give

626
00:31:26.559 --> 00:31:30.519
<v Speaker 5>your thousand percent the next time and you're.

627
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Gonna get it. It's all up to you.

628
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.359
<v Speaker 5>Like that heart is, heart is falling down and getting

629
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<v Speaker 5>back up. What happens is people fall down too many

630
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<v Speaker 5>times and they.

631
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<v Speaker 2>Don't get back up.

632
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<v Speaker 5>But if you get back up, it's all up to

633
00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:46.160
<v Speaker 5>you and you could and you could achieve anything you

634
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:47.319
<v Speaker 5>know you set your mind to.

635
00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:49.920
<v Speaker 1>My friends and I have a kind of a running

636
00:31:50.000 --> 00:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>joke where we we have what we call the heart rankings,

637
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:54.880
<v Speaker 1>and we say, you know, so and so's king of

638
00:31:54.880 --> 00:31:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the heart rankings, or so and So's king of the

639
00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:58.519
<v Speaker 1>heart rankings. I would say you're probably king of the

640
00:31:58.559 --> 00:32:01.039
<v Speaker 1>heart rankings, at least from what I see you put

641
00:32:01.079 --> 00:32:03.200
<v Speaker 1>out there, the persona that you exude. You know, you're

642
00:32:03.240 --> 00:32:04.759
<v Speaker 1>always talking about how much you care for the game,

643
00:32:04.759 --> 00:32:06.519
<v Speaker 1>and I think you see you at the table, like

644
00:32:06.680 --> 00:32:10.039
<v Speaker 1>with your fight and your determination. Now what is it

645
00:32:10.039 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>that's driving you behind that?

646
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:11.880
<v Speaker 5>Like?

647
00:32:12.000 --> 00:32:14.279
<v Speaker 4>Is it the money? Is it respect? Is it just

648
00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:15.759
<v Speaker 4>the pure competition of it all?

649
00:32:16.599 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 5>So I've always I was really bad with money when

650
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:21.000
<v Speaker 5>I was younger.

651
00:32:21.000 --> 00:32:21.880
<v Speaker 2>But this is off topic.

652
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:24.400
<v Speaker 4>But uh, I don't get good.

653
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.799
<v Speaker 5>I don't care about money at all. I want to

654
00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:31.839
<v Speaker 5>do the be the best poker player ever. I want

655
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.839
<v Speaker 5>people to know me for being a hard worker and dedicated,

656
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 5>being friendly at the tables. I want to I want

657
00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:40.000
<v Speaker 5>to be one of the best players ever. I want

658
00:32:40.039 --> 00:32:44.079
<v Speaker 5>to have the most final tables, the most wins. So basically,

659
00:32:44.119 --> 00:32:47.920
<v Speaker 5>it's just respect, it's the competition. And on top of

660
00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.799
<v Speaker 5>all of what I said before, it's I lost all

661
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:54.480
<v Speaker 5>my family when I was younger, and I want to

662
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 5>keep my family name going. My uncle's name was the

663
00:32:57.039 --> 00:33:00.799
<v Speaker 5>same as mine, Nicholas David Palma, and I want our

664
00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:03.559
<v Speaker 5>name to live on forever. He's not I'm the last

665
00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 5>one left, and so I'm doing all of this to

666
00:33:06.720 --> 00:33:09.400
<v Speaker 5>basically put on for my family and myself and try

667
00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:11.519
<v Speaker 5>to just see how far I can go and how

668
00:33:11.599 --> 00:33:12.880
<v Speaker 5>much I can accomplish.

669
00:33:12.960 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 2>And I want people that have went.

670
00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:18.599
<v Speaker 5>Through stuff in life and uh that to know that

671
00:33:18.599 --> 00:33:20.759
<v Speaker 5>they can accomplish whatever they set their minds to if

672
00:33:20.839 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 5>they just you know, stick to it, and if you

673
00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.680
<v Speaker 5>have the hard work, if you keep good people around you,

674
00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:29.559
<v Speaker 5>the sky's truly the limit on.

675
00:33:29.920 --> 00:33:32.079
<v Speaker 2>And it's not just for poker, it's any field that you're.

676
00:33:31.960 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 1>In now along that journey that you're on. You know,

677
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:38.160
<v Speaker 1>do you where are you at in terms of the

678
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 1>respect earning? Are you? Have you earned it yet? Are

679
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:43.160
<v Speaker 1>you still earning it? Like like do you feel like

680
00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:43.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it's there?

681
00:33:45.880 --> 00:33:49.559
<v Speaker 5>The respect is definitely there out of a say, like

682
00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:51.880
<v Speaker 5>out of a level, out of a level ten and

683
00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.160
<v Speaker 5>a fox and is a ten. And because I relate

684
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:55.880
<v Speaker 5>everything to a fox it because Foxing to me is

685
00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 5>number one. There's a few other people obviously if Foxing

686
00:33:59.160 --> 00:34:01.440
<v Speaker 5>is a ten, I'm at like a seven or a

687
00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:02.880
<v Speaker 5>seven and a half right now, and I got a

688
00:34:02.880 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 5>lot of work to do. But I mean to the

689
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:08.519
<v Speaker 5>average person, yes, I have a lot of respect but

690
00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:11.679
<v Speaker 5>I hold myself to a very high regard, so I

691
00:34:11.719 --> 00:34:12.599
<v Speaker 5>want to get to the ten.

692
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:16.960
<v Speaker 1>You want a WSOP bracelet online in twenty twenty five

693
00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:21.440
<v Speaker 1>in October? Do you still feel like job's unfinished with

694
00:34:21.519 --> 00:34:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a live bracelet? Like how do you look at you

695
00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:25.800
<v Speaker 1>personally that has an online one but doesn't have a

696
00:34:25.800 --> 00:34:27.159
<v Speaker 1>live one, But it's out here chasing it.

697
00:34:27.400 --> 00:34:28.960
<v Speaker 2>The job is far from finished.

698
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:31.840
<v Speaker 5>The truth is when you're great in whatever field you're in,

699
00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:36.000
<v Speaker 5>it's never enough, but you need that because if you

700
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 5>didn't have that, you would just be complacent.

701
00:34:38.840 --> 00:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>The truth is about life.

702
00:34:40.000 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 5>A lot of people just want to get by, have

703
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:45.559
<v Speaker 5>enough money to do whatever they want, and then there's

704
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:47.840
<v Speaker 5>another group of people who want to be the best,

705
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:52.119
<v Speaker 5>and those people they have a sickness, but in a

706
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:55.519
<v Speaker 5>good way. Like it's never enough. If I win a

707
00:34:55.559 --> 00:34:58.159
<v Speaker 5>tournament today, it's good for a day. I gotta do

708
00:34:58.239 --> 00:35:01.440
<v Speaker 5>it again, because the true great it's all about consistency

709
00:35:01.480 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 5>and longevity. If you don't have those things, you're just

710
00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:08.440
<v Speaker 5>a flash in a pan or you know, like it's cool.

711
00:35:08.519 --> 00:35:11.840
<v Speaker 5>But the real respectable people and the real legends, they

712
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:13.960
<v Speaker 5>stand that tests of time, and that's what my whole goal.

713
00:35:13.880 --> 00:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Is sounds like you're one of those people who might

714
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:20.880
<v Speaker 1>be deep into Kobe Bryant videos or Michael Jordan or

715
00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:22.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, like those types of great I mean, I'm

716
00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:23.360
<v Speaker 1>a sucker.

717
00:35:23.079 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 4>For that stuff too.

718
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:25.880
<v Speaker 1>Write you know how often they were in the gym,

719
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:28.039
<v Speaker 1>how many shots they put up, all the different workouts

720
00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:30.320
<v Speaker 1>that they did. It seems like you're that type of

721
00:35:30.400 --> 00:35:32.679
<v Speaker 1>person as well, and you're kind of drawn to that,

722
00:35:32.679 --> 00:35:34.440
<v Speaker 1>that chase for greatness.

723
00:35:34.880 --> 00:35:35.400
<v Speaker 2>Definitely.

724
00:35:35.599 --> 00:35:38.320
<v Speaker 5>Also, like I'm on Instagram and a lot of my

725
00:35:38.320 --> 00:35:42.320
<v Speaker 5>stuff just Instagram inspirational quotes and inspirational pages.

726
00:35:43.480 --> 00:35:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, what would you say to people who

727
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:49.360
<v Speaker 1>might think that's cheesy? I mean, listen, I love that shit. Okay,

728
00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I love it. I think it drives me too, and

729
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 1>it helps I think.

730
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:55.000
<v Speaker 5>I think those people don't have a big enough goals

731
00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:55.800
<v Speaker 5>or they gave.

732
00:35:55.679 --> 00:35:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Up on their dreams that they truly wanted to begin with.

733
00:35:58.440 --> 00:36:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, if you were to win a live race,

734
00:36:01.360 --> 00:36:03.159
<v Speaker 1>So whether it's this summer, next summer, or whatever, do

735
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:05.559
<v Speaker 1>you think that changes for anything anything for you internally

736
00:36:05.719 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 1>or is it just one more notch up.

737
00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:13.079
<v Speaker 5>It'll definitely change something, but it's just one more notch up.

738
00:36:13.119 --> 00:36:15.719
<v Speaker 5>The truth is, like I said, you need to just

739
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:20.960
<v Speaker 5>keep doing it over and over, like uh, the sickness

740
00:36:21.039 --> 00:36:23.039
<v Speaker 5>is the gift and the curse, you know, like because

741
00:36:23.480 --> 00:36:24.760
<v Speaker 5>it's never enough, so.

742
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Like when does it end?

743
00:36:26.159 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 5>But all you could do is just as long as

744
00:36:28.239 --> 00:36:31.639
<v Speaker 5>you're alive, just go one thousand percent and achieve as

745
00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:35.719
<v Speaker 5>much as you can achieve, and show people what hard

746
00:36:35.760 --> 00:36:38.880
<v Speaker 5>work rings and h and just have good energy about

747
00:36:38.920 --> 00:36:41.800
<v Speaker 5>you and and and just yeah, just be a good person.

748
00:36:41.840 --> 00:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Basically, You've had a couple of moments over your career,

749
00:36:45.599 --> 00:36:47.599
<v Speaker 1>but two more recently that I got to ask you about.

750
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:49.679
<v Speaker 1>You got Sean Deep's out there on social media saying

751
00:36:49.719 --> 00:36:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that you threaten to spit on someone you know. You

752
00:36:52.480 --> 00:36:54.679
<v Speaker 1>got Phil Helmi posted a video where like this guy

753
00:36:54.679 --> 00:36:55.440
<v Speaker 1>called me a pansy.

754
00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:56.239
<v Speaker 4>You're like, yeah, it was me.

755
00:36:56.320 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 2>It was me.

756
00:36:56.679 --> 00:36:58.960
<v Speaker 4>It was right next to me. And what's what's going on?

757
00:36:59.000 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>What's in your mind there trying to get in people's

758
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.079
<v Speaker 1>heads or are you really.

759
00:37:01.920 --> 00:37:05.800
<v Speaker 5>No, No, no, I'll be real, I don't care, So

760
00:37:05.920 --> 00:37:09.119
<v Speaker 5>I'm never I'm never just randomly telling like the nice

761
00:37:09.159 --> 00:37:11.599
<v Speaker 5>guy Joe the plumber, I'm gonna spit in his face

762
00:37:12.000 --> 00:37:14.719
<v Speaker 5>or aunt Betty, like, Hey, aunt, Betty, I'm gonna spit

763
00:37:14.760 --> 00:37:17.599
<v Speaker 5>in your face if I say like. And by the way,

764
00:37:17.599 --> 00:37:20.039
<v Speaker 5>I'll tell you exactly what happened. This guy was being

765
00:37:20.119 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 5>a really a real, I don't know, a real piece

766
00:37:23.039 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 5>of shit.

767
00:37:23.360 --> 00:37:25.199
<v Speaker 4>You can say whatever you want. The guy was there.

768
00:37:25.480 --> 00:37:27.159
<v Speaker 5>The guy was being a real piece of shit, and

769
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:28.719
<v Speaker 5>he says a couple of things that I would never

770
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:33.840
<v Speaker 5>say to anyone. And so I just said bluntly, if

771
00:37:33.880 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 5>we weren't in here, I'd spit in your face if

772
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.119
<v Speaker 5>we weren't in this casino, because I'm a I'm.

773
00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:39.800
<v Speaker 2>A top professional, so I'm never gonna get in trouble

774
00:37:39.800 --> 00:37:40.559
<v Speaker 2>on any properties.

775
00:37:40.960 --> 00:37:45.360
<v Speaker 5>Basically along the lines of yeah, like like, I don't

776
00:37:45.519 --> 00:37:47.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't tolerate anyone talking to me the way you're

777
00:37:47.440 --> 00:37:51.280
<v Speaker 5>talking to me. But I'm at work now, essentially, But uh,

778
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.760
<v Speaker 5>that's not any and I still shouldn't be doing that anyway.

779
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 5>I should still be a little bit big of a

780
00:37:56.280 --> 00:37:59.960
<v Speaker 5>person because I'm man enough to admit that. But it's

781
00:38:00.199 --> 00:38:02.119
<v Speaker 5>he was in the point point one percent of people

782
00:38:02.159 --> 00:38:04.760
<v Speaker 5>that I would talk to like that. But it's still

783
00:38:04.920 --> 00:38:06.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm thirty six years old, so I should do you

784
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.719
<v Speaker 5>a little better. But the guy was fifty five and

785
00:38:08.800 --> 00:38:11.239
<v Speaker 5>he hasn't learned yet. So like sometimes I like to

786
00:38:11.239 --> 00:38:13.039
<v Speaker 5>teach a little bit of a lesson and then I

787
00:38:13.079 --> 00:38:14.639
<v Speaker 5>and then I was like, you know, being a dick

788
00:38:14.679 --> 00:38:17.039
<v Speaker 5>to him a little bit, but like the right way

789
00:38:17.159 --> 00:38:19.039
<v Speaker 5>like after that, like you know how to talk shit

790
00:38:19.400 --> 00:38:22.400
<v Speaker 5>get under people's skin at that point, because then it's

791
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:23.400
<v Speaker 5>easy with those people.

792
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, let me let me just rewind once, like where'd

793
00:38:26.039 --> 00:38:26.559
<v Speaker 4>you grow up?

794
00:38:27.000 --> 00:38:27.960
<v Speaker 2>I grew up in the Bronx.

795
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:29.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah exactly, So I mean I get it.

796
00:38:30.000 --> 00:38:32.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, like your city life, you've got hard skin,

797
00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>like you know, you know how, you know how to

798
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:35.400
<v Speaker 1>dish it out, but you also know how to take it.

799
00:38:35.480 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you need to take it.

800
00:38:36.519 --> 00:38:38.760
<v Speaker 4>So so I understand what happened with Phil.

801
00:38:39.519 --> 00:38:41.559
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I'll be honest, Like even though Phil came up

802
00:38:41.599 --> 00:38:43.159
<v Speaker 5>to me and like we shook hands in a pot,

803
00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:47.519
<v Speaker 5>like whatever, my thoughts on Phil is I think he's

804
00:38:47.559 --> 00:38:48.039
<v Speaker 5>the worst.

805
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:49.199
<v Speaker 2>I'm just gonna be honest.

806
00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.800
<v Speaker 5>I think he's an amazing poker player, or was an

807
00:38:52.800 --> 00:38:57.079
<v Speaker 5>amazing poker player and a poker legend. The games passed

808
00:38:57.119 --> 00:38:59.800
<v Speaker 5>him by immensely. That's my thoughts. And I think every

809
00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:02.840
<v Speaker 5>other top players thoughts, but he is an all time

810
00:39:02.920 --> 00:39:05.679
<v Speaker 5>legend and he is sixty years old, so like how

811
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.039
<v Speaker 5>long are you going to be able to be able

812
00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 5>to stay sharp as well? So like I'm not you know,

813
00:39:10.199 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 5>it is what it is. He's six years old, it's

814
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:14.559
<v Speaker 5>a new climate. The kids are all very hard workers.

815
00:39:14.599 --> 00:39:16.519
<v Speaker 5>It's hard to keep up with them. So I'm not

816
00:39:16.559 --> 00:39:20.079
<v Speaker 5>gonna bash him on that sense. But uh, he's just

817
00:39:21.039 --> 00:39:24.159
<v Speaker 5>he's he's just the worst. In my opinion, He's a

818
00:39:24.280 --> 00:39:28.000
<v Speaker 5>walking infomercial. He was wearing a hat one time for

819
00:39:28.079 --> 00:39:30.320
<v Speaker 5>a year where like they rug pulled the people on

820
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:32.559
<v Speaker 5>day one and he was definitely wearing the hat because

821
00:39:32.719 --> 00:39:35.159
<v Speaker 5>he was contract contractually obligated to keep.

822
00:39:35.000 --> 00:39:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Wearing the hat.

823
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:40.119
<v Speaker 5>The company legitimately stole the people's money. I mean, this

824
00:39:40.239 --> 00:39:44.199
<v Speaker 5>is just this is just a fact. He's a walking infomercial.

825
00:39:45.800 --> 00:39:48.079
<v Speaker 5>He's just unbearable, to be honest, And I'm and I'm

826
00:39:48.280 --> 00:39:51.840
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm speaking for about seventy five percent of

827
00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:55.760
<v Speaker 5>the top professionals. I think they think the same as me,

828
00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:57.360
<v Speaker 5>and I think it might be higher than that.

829
00:39:57.719 --> 00:39:59.079
<v Speaker 2>But I'm trying to be nice about it.

830
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:01.679
<v Speaker 4>But it sounds like the words you shook hands and

831
00:40:01.840 --> 00:40:02.079
<v Speaker 4>you know.

832
00:40:02.239 --> 00:40:04.320
<v Speaker 5>That's because he came up to me on camera and

833
00:40:04.440 --> 00:40:05.719
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to, like, I.

834
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>Know he's gonna post it.

835
00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:10.079
<v Speaker 5>And and I just I don't want to be an

836
00:40:10.119 --> 00:40:14.360
<v Speaker 5>asshole just to be an asshole. So like I don't

837
00:40:14.360 --> 00:40:16.639
<v Speaker 5>mind berating him, like when it's just me and him,

838
00:40:16.719 --> 00:40:19.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, like I don't want to be too much,

839
00:40:19.480 --> 00:40:21.639
<v Speaker 5>too too brash. You know, it is what it is.

840
00:40:22.039 --> 00:40:25.960
<v Speaker 5>But uh, I think he stinks. And I told him.

841
00:40:26.159 --> 00:40:27.840
<v Speaker 5>I told him as he tweeted about it.

842
00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:29.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you were in the video saying that, yeah,

843
00:40:29.800 --> 00:40:31.480
<v Speaker 4>you're like, yeah, I said that. I said that.

844
00:40:31.760 --> 00:40:33.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Like I stand on anything I do and say

845
00:40:34.159 --> 00:40:36.880
<v Speaker 5>at all times. And I also will admit if I'm

846
00:40:36.880 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 5>wrong in my eyes or I'm man enough to I'm

847
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.119
<v Speaker 5>not like Trump where like if I think I'm wrong,

848
00:40:42.239 --> 00:40:46.360
<v Speaker 5>I'll say it. I've apologized to people. Yeah, And I

849
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:48.360
<v Speaker 5>also didn't say anything that's too crazy. I called him

850
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:50.639
<v Speaker 5>a pansy, and I think I said he stinks. I

851
00:40:50.639 --> 00:40:52.920
<v Speaker 5>didn't talk about his family or anything, you know, like

852
00:40:53.280 --> 00:40:56.199
<v Speaker 5>so then I would have apologized seriously, but like, you know, whatever,

853
00:40:56.320 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 5>I called him a pansy whatever, it's for shits and

854
00:40:59.760 --> 00:41:03.559
<v Speaker 5>gig really like it's nothing serious. I don't I don't

855
00:41:03.360 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 5>want anything bad to happen to him or anything. I

856
00:41:05.719 --> 00:41:08.440
<v Speaker 5>think he's a legend, and I just he's just not

857
00:41:08.519 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 5>my cup of.

858
00:41:09.000 --> 00:41:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Tea now this summer. I know we're only whatever less

859
00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 1>than a weekend. I mean, how are things going for you?

860
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:17.599
<v Speaker 1>Are you just right back in the groove? Are you

861
00:41:17.639 --> 00:41:19.239
<v Speaker 1>feeling like it's gonna be a big summer?

862
00:41:19.519 --> 00:41:21.880
<v Speaker 2>I just want to continue on the last thing about Phil.

863
00:41:22.039 --> 00:41:24.840
<v Speaker 2>This is also something like that, like some of these

864
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>big names they just got away with.

865
00:41:27.000 --> 00:41:30.159
<v Speaker 5>He was involved in the ub scandal with Russ Hamilton

866
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:32.239
<v Speaker 5>and he just got a complete pass.

867
00:41:32.880 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's that.

868
00:41:33.440 --> 00:41:35.119
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know how much he was involved.

869
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:36.079
<v Speaker 2>No no, no, no, no no no.

870
00:41:36.199 --> 00:41:38.559
<v Speaker 5>I don't think he was involved in the cheating, but

871
00:41:38.679 --> 00:41:42.000
<v Speaker 5>he knew stuff was going on and he just didn't

872
00:41:42.039 --> 00:41:43.079
<v Speaker 5>do anything about it.

873
00:41:43.440 --> 00:41:45.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean yeah, I think it's safe to say

874
00:41:45.599 --> 00:41:47.199
<v Speaker 1>that there are a lot of people out there that

875
00:41:47.280 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 1>might feel the same way you feel about that, which

876
00:41:49.679 --> 00:41:53.400
<v Speaker 1>is understandable because in those moments you might want an

877
00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.760
<v Speaker 1>ambassador like that to say the right thing or do

878
00:41:56.840 --> 00:41:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the right thing or not, because sometimes silence can condone

879
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.159
<v Speaker 1>what something's being done right, and that that's kind of

880
00:42:02.159 --> 00:42:03.119
<v Speaker 1>the issue that I think.

881
00:42:03.039 --> 00:42:06.440
<v Speaker 5>Basically, like I'm not trying to be that harsh, but

882
00:42:06.480 --> 00:42:09.400
<v Speaker 5>it's really it's really just being a sellout. It's like

883
00:42:09.519 --> 00:42:12.760
<v Speaker 5>just taking a paycheck, turning a blind eye and or

884
00:42:12.840 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 5>not doing anything about it and then like just washing

885
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.159
<v Speaker 5>your hands with the situation when it was over.

886
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.760
<v Speaker 2>But like he's definitely culpable of something in this in that.

887
00:42:20.760 --> 00:42:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Situation, do you think that your stance or your attitude

888
00:42:25.760 --> 00:42:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and maybe how some people perceive you might limit you

889
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>possibly getting deals if they're like, hm, do we really

890
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.840
<v Speaker 1>want to sponsor this guy, give him money, make him

891
00:42:33.880 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 1>an ambassador if we know he's gonna speak his mind

892
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.199
<v Speaker 1>because we might not be able to control that. Not

893
00:42:39.199 --> 00:42:40.920
<v Speaker 1>not that you're going out there going crazy, but.

894
00:42:40.840 --> 00:42:43.559
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I definitely think that's the case for sure.

895
00:42:44.079 --> 00:42:47.960
<v Speaker 5>But also this is poker, and and like it's not

896
00:42:48.000 --> 00:42:50.559
<v Speaker 5>like we have Disney behind us where we were like

897
00:42:50.599 --> 00:42:53.760
<v Speaker 5>when we're you know, and we have to like like

898
00:42:53.840 --> 00:42:57.280
<v Speaker 5>why can't people give real opinions. I don't say, like

899
00:42:57.400 --> 00:43:00.280
<v Speaker 5>don't be don't be racist, or don't be sexist, don't

900
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:02.760
<v Speaker 5>be these things, but why can't you have your opinion

901
00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 5>on like real topics and like give your That's why

902
00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:09.280
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people like me and dislike me. I

903
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:11.400
<v Speaker 5>would say a good amount of people more a lot

904
00:43:11.400 --> 00:43:13.800
<v Speaker 5>more people like me than dislike me. But it's because

905
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:16.599
<v Speaker 5>I give you my real thoughts. But those are my

906
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:19.239
<v Speaker 5>own thoughts. That doesn't mean I'm right or wrong. It's

907
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:21.559
<v Speaker 5>up to the person to gauge however they feel about it.

908
00:43:22.039 --> 00:43:24.159
<v Speaker 5>But uh, but yeah, if I was signed to, like

909
00:43:24.719 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 5>a more serious contract, I would tone myself down in

910
00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:31.880
<v Speaker 5>certain situations. I would know what topics to broach and

911
00:43:31.920 --> 00:43:35.280
<v Speaker 5>which ones not to. But I would still have my opinions,

912
00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.360
<v Speaker 5>but I would tone them. Like if I got signed

913
00:43:37.360 --> 00:43:41.079
<v Speaker 5>by like WSOP and they have ESPN behind them, then

914
00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:43.360
<v Speaker 5>I would know to tone it down a little bit

915
00:43:43.400 --> 00:43:45.719
<v Speaker 5>and what topics to touch and what topics not to touch.

916
00:43:46.280 --> 00:43:48.519
<v Speaker 2>But until the.

917
00:43:48.280 --> 00:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Flip side of that, though, some people might say that

918
00:43:50.400 --> 00:43:55.360
<v Speaker 1>it's fake, Well not necessarily that, But if the right

919
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:58.679
<v Speaker 1>company were to approach you, right, they might want the

920
00:43:58.719 --> 00:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>full Nick Palmer experience because that is what is gonna

921
00:44:01.880 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 1>get eyeballs, that's what's gonna get clicks. That's why people

922
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:07.719
<v Speaker 1>follow this guy, right, So it might be maybe if

923
00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:09.639
<v Speaker 1>you then did that and kind of tone yourself down,

924
00:44:09.639 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe then you're shooting your stuff.

925
00:44:10.719 --> 00:44:12.440
<v Speaker 4>On the foot. So it's just interesting to think about.

926
00:44:12.480 --> 00:44:16.159
<v Speaker 5>You know, well, well this hasn't happened yet because I've

927
00:44:16.159 --> 00:44:18.599
<v Speaker 5>always given my full opinions about stuff, so i haven't

928
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:22.719
<v Speaker 5>held back clearly. But uh, even now, I'm I don't

929
00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:25.159
<v Speaker 5>know if I I'm with coin poker now, I don't

930
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.199
<v Speaker 5>know if you're gonna put this in, but uh yeah, yeah,

931
00:44:27.239 --> 00:44:28.880
<v Speaker 5>I mean they let me say whatever I want.

932
00:44:29.000 --> 00:44:30.039
<v Speaker 2>They know it's clicks.

933
00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:33.159
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm not like, I'm not like bashing people

934
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:36.239
<v Speaker 5>on like a hatred level. I'm just giving my normal opinions.

935
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:37.960
<v Speaker 5>And I'm sure they like that actually because it gives

936
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:41.840
<v Speaker 5>more eyeballs and stuff. But uh yeah, I'm not trying

937
00:44:41.840 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 5>to be a bad I'm never trying contrary to what

938
00:44:44.920 --> 00:44:47.639
<v Speaker 5>like a small percentage of people thinking, I'm never trying

939
00:44:47.639 --> 00:44:49.880
<v Speaker 5>to be a bad guy or anything. I'm just giving

940
00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:52.960
<v Speaker 5>my own thoughts. And you could whether you could like

941
00:44:53.039 --> 00:44:55.079
<v Speaker 5>me or not like me, and but you're gonna get.

942
00:44:54.960 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 2>The real me.

943
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, on the summer, how's it going, I'm three.

944
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like it's gonna be a big summer

945
00:45:02.000 --> 00:45:03.800
<v Speaker 1>for you. I almost feel like it is.

946
00:45:03.840 --> 00:45:04.360
<v Speaker 4>I don't know why.

947
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:06.639
<v Speaker 1>I just have this weird feeling You're gonna like this

948
00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>is like the summer of Nick Palmer for summers.

949
00:45:08.519 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 2>I think.

950
00:45:10.360 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm gonna have the sickest summer in WSLP history.

951
00:45:14.400 --> 00:45:16.360
<v Speaker 4>And what is that? Four bracelets?

952
00:45:16.440 --> 00:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Like what I mean?

953
00:45:17.480 --> 00:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna I thowt you wrote an article you said

954
00:45:19.480 --> 00:45:20.199
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna win three.

955
00:45:20.239 --> 00:45:22.679
<v Speaker 5>I'll be honest, It's gonna be really tough because much

956
00:45:22.679 --> 00:45:25.400
<v Speaker 5>respect to the Grinder, who's an all time legend and gambler,

957
00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:27.599
<v Speaker 5>he won the PPC last year and the main event,

958
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 5>so it's gonna be hard to do better than that.

959
00:45:29.519 --> 00:45:31.440
<v Speaker 5>But I'm gonna try my best to win the main event,

960
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:33.400
<v Speaker 5>and then I'm gonna try my best to win one

961
00:45:33.480 --> 00:45:35.119
<v Speaker 5>or two other big ones. It's gonna have to be

962
00:45:35.119 --> 00:45:38.039
<v Speaker 5>two big ones because he won PPC, so I'm gonna

963
00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 5>have to win two bracelets and then maybe the main

964
00:45:41.199 --> 00:45:44.119
<v Speaker 5>event to overtake the Grinder for the sickest summer ever.

965
00:45:44.599 --> 00:45:47.480
<v Speaker 5>But uh, I believe I could do it. I really

966
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:49.760
<v Speaker 5>do believe that. Uh it's whatever. You have to be

967
00:45:49.800 --> 00:45:52.000
<v Speaker 5>a little bit delusional, but like, I.

968
00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 4>Truly we're all a little bit delusional in this industry.

969
00:45:54.599 --> 00:45:56.480
<v Speaker 2>I truly, I truly believe.

970
00:45:57.719 --> 00:45:59.760
<v Speaker 5>That I could do anything and I sent my mind

971
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 5>to Obviously in poker there's variants there.

972
00:46:03.400 --> 00:46:05.880
<v Speaker 2>But like I've been on the wrong side of variants.

973
00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 5>I mean a lot of people say that, but I truly,

974
00:46:09.239 --> 00:46:12.599
<v Speaker 5>I I truly have been people could think whatever they want,

975
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:16.639
<v Speaker 5>and uh hey, maybe if the I always I always said,

976
00:46:16.679 --> 00:46:18.960
<v Speaker 5>I just need to run a little bit bad. I

977
00:46:19.000 --> 00:46:20.760
<v Speaker 5>don't even want to run good. I just want to

978
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.320
<v Speaker 5>run a little bit bad. Okay, And then yeah.

979
00:46:24.239 --> 00:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Are you someone who are you only wsp Are you

980
00:46:27.119 --> 00:46:29.639
<v Speaker 1>only here because you're here chasing braicelets in the glory?

981
00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:30.840
<v Speaker 4>Or are you gonna, you know, bounce around.

982
00:46:30.880 --> 00:46:34.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm basically gonna be playing like ninety six percent WSOP.

983
00:46:34.199 --> 00:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>I'll play the two or.

984
00:46:35.760 --> 00:46:38.559
<v Speaker 5>Three win main events, the ten k or the thirty

985
00:46:38.559 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 5>five hundred where versus a million. But uh yeah, I

986
00:46:41.760 --> 00:46:44.239
<v Speaker 5>want I want bracelets. I want WSOP.

987
00:46:46.000 --> 00:46:48.400
<v Speaker 2>And I also have myself on a bunch of the ODB.

988
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:50.920
<v Speaker 4>Teams, so that's none yourself.

989
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, that's extra money, although it's it's unfortunate like

990
00:46:54.000 --> 00:46:56.360
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of good players that I know. They all

991
00:46:56.400 --> 00:46:58.639
<v Speaker 5>told me that I'm their bonus player on their teams.

992
00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:00.559
<v Speaker 5>So I'm gonna have to go to a bunch of

993
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 5>my good friends teams as well. But maybe we'll chop it,

994
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 5>you know, I'll get first, they get second or third

995
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:08.320
<v Speaker 5>or whatever. But uh, yeah, we're gonna give them hell,

996
00:47:08.360 --> 00:47:08.920
<v Speaker 5>that's for sure.

997
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 1>You said you're gonna have the best summer ever. You

998
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:13.920
<v Speaker 1>said you're gonna win three braces.

999
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.280
<v Speaker 5>Well, hopefully I'm gonna. I'm giving my absolute all, and

1000
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 5>I believe.

1001
00:47:17.800 --> 00:47:19.920
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm getting is ultimately, you know, what is

1002
00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:21.559
<v Speaker 1>what when the summer's done?

1003
00:47:21.679 --> 00:47:23.480
<v Speaker 4>What does success look like for you?

1004
00:47:24.440 --> 00:47:25.320
<v Speaker 2>The truth is.

1005
00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:30.599
<v Speaker 5>Success to me always has been if I give my all.

1006
00:47:31.440 --> 00:47:34.000
<v Speaker 5>If I give my all, what.

1007
00:47:34.039 --> 00:47:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Else could I have done?

1008
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:39.280
<v Speaker 5>So until the day I die, I am gonna give

1009
00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:42.400
<v Speaker 5>my all every single day, and I'll be happy with

1010
00:47:42.480 --> 00:47:43.280
<v Speaker 5>whatever happens.

1011
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think good things are gonna happen very soon.

1012
00:47:48.320 --> 00:47:51.119
<v Speaker 1>Have you ever thought about doing a poker vlog or

1013
00:47:51.280 --> 00:47:53.360
<v Speaker 1>I know you tested that recently.

1014
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, I did.

1015
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 2>It's just I did six and.

1016
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:57.400
<v Speaker 4>I heard you talking about the other day like it's

1017
00:47:57.440 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 4>a lot of work. You gotta do all this stuff

1018
00:47:59.199 --> 00:47:59.599
<v Speaker 4>so you.

1019
00:47:59.519 --> 00:48:03.320
<v Speaker 5>Could type Nicholas Palmer WSOP and I did six WSOP

1020
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.000
<v Speaker 5>vlogs every day at Prague for WSB Europe.

1021
00:48:06.360 --> 00:48:08.559
<v Speaker 2>It was a ton of work, to be.

1022
00:48:08.480 --> 00:48:10.199
<v Speaker 5>Honest, I wish I could be like a lot a

1023
00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:12.119
<v Speaker 5>lot of the Asian players that are GG players.

1024
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.480
<v Speaker 2>They have people following them with cameras and.

1025
00:48:14.440 --> 00:48:17.400
<v Speaker 5>Like, I would rather have have that being done so

1026
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:20.360
<v Speaker 5>I could, really because the truth is, I'm a poker

1027
00:48:20.360 --> 00:48:23.119
<v Speaker 5>player first. A lot of these guys are more contrate

1028
00:48:23.199 --> 00:48:25.599
<v Speaker 5>people first, so it's really hard when I'm trying to

1029
00:48:25.599 --> 00:48:28.400
<v Speaker 5>be the best poker player. There is to be focusing

1030
00:48:28.440 --> 00:48:31.119
<v Speaker 5>on that end of vlog, But I should be doing

1031
00:48:31.199 --> 00:48:33.559
<v Speaker 5>the vlog. I should be this I could do is

1032
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:35.840
<v Speaker 5>because it's not at the table. But I'm gonna start

1033
00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 5>podcasting soon, possibly one with me and Mike Holtz. I've

1034
00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.320
<v Speaker 5>been talking to him about something, and possibly one on

1035
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:45.719
<v Speaker 5>my own, and I think people would be really interested

1036
00:48:45.719 --> 00:48:47.360
<v Speaker 5>and intrigued with a lot of thoughts I have on

1037
00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:49.440
<v Speaker 5>mostly poker, but maybe.

1038
00:48:49.239 --> 00:48:52.079
<v Speaker 4>Some other stuff. Is it only poker? Is it?

1039
00:48:52.760 --> 00:48:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I like to talk about a lot of stuff.

1040
00:48:53.880 --> 00:48:56.519
<v Speaker 5>It's gonna be mostly predominantly poker, but I'll also talk

1041
00:48:56.519 --> 00:48:58.400
<v Speaker 5>about other things and see if people are interested. But

1042
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:03.320
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm a pretty intelligent person and I think

1043
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:04.840
<v Speaker 5>people would like to hear my thoughts on a lot

1044
00:49:04.880 --> 00:49:08.360
<v Speaker 5>of different things, but mostly poker obviously, but a lot

1045
00:49:08.360 --> 00:49:10.280
<v Speaker 5>of other things of life as well.

1046
00:49:11.599 --> 00:49:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't really think I have anything else for you.

1047
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was a great conversation. I've been wanting

1048
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to get you on the podcast for a while and

1049
00:49:18.559 --> 00:49:20.679
<v Speaker 1>just chat get into the mind of Nick Palmer.

1050
00:49:20.679 --> 00:49:22.199
<v Speaker 4>I mean, is there anything else you want to share?

1051
00:49:23.320 --> 00:49:26.559
<v Speaker 5>I wanted to say thank you to anyone who truly

1052
00:49:26.639 --> 00:49:30.000
<v Speaker 5>roots for me. I really appreciate it, and I wanted

1053
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.199
<v Speaker 5>to say I love you too, my mom, Rosemarie, and

1054
00:49:32.280 --> 00:49:36.320
<v Speaker 5>my nephew Bobby, and hopefully I come home with a

1055
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:36.960
<v Speaker 5>bracelet or too.

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<v Speaker 4>Where can people follow you this summer?

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<v Speaker 5>Twitter is nick Underscore Palma ten ten and YouTube. You

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<v Speaker 5>could just type in Nicholas Palmer WSP or Nicholas Palma

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<v Speaker 5>vlog that'll pop up. And Instagram it's Nicky P ten

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<v Speaker 5>ten and every morning on Twitter, I'm gonna be putting

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<v Speaker 5>up a little morning video of what the day holds

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<v Speaker 5>for that day. I'm gonna be putting updates throughout the tournaments,

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<v Speaker 5>and I also wanted to say I do it for

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<v Speaker 5>like all the grinders who play poker, and I wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to say rest in peace to Daniel Sunig and Ryan

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<v Speaker 5>Estrada who passed in the last two years, and I

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<v Speaker 5>do it for them and everyone else who ever wanted

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<v Speaker 5>to play poker and who loves poker.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was Nick Palma. You heard him say the

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<v Speaker 1>best wsp ever. I mean, this guy does not lack

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<v Speaker 1>confidence whatsoever. So we'll see. I kind of think this

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<v Speaker 1>could be the summer of Nick Palma.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, there's a couple of summers that I'm gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>the analogy to that that have happened recently. You had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a summer of will Casue. Now, obviously it's

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<v Speaker 1>not for like the reasons that I think we all want,

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<v Speaker 1>but nevertheless, I think a lot of a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people watched because of what he was doing at the table.

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<v Speaker 1>Martin Cabrell is another one like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think Nick Palma goes as far as those

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<v Speaker 1>guys go, but it's the it's the same sort of

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<v Speaker 1>idea where their personality is so big that that's what

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<v Speaker 1>people are drawn to more so than they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just drawn to the poker. They just want to see,

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<v Speaker 1>like what's gonna happen with this sort of stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>when and when he got the stuff? Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>i mean the Helmeth video is like you know, case

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<v Speaker 1>in point, when you when you got the When Helmuth

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<v Speaker 1>is putting this guy on camera saying like this is

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<v Speaker 1>the guy who called me a panza and Nick's just

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<v Speaker 1>owning it on camera, I mean, that's like, Okay, people

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00:51:39.920 --> 00:51:42.159
<v Speaker 1>are start to like kind of tune in, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>so it doesn't really matter what side of the fence

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<v Speaker 1>you're on with him. It's almost like, Okay, I gotta

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00:51:46.920 --> 00:51:48.800
<v Speaker 1>watch this guy. I gotta see if he's gonna make

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<v Speaker 1>a run. So it's just listen. The characters in poker

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<v Speaker 1>are why I love poker so much and why I

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<v Speaker 1>like to be in and around this industry. In this game,

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00:52:00.760 --> 00:52:05.440
<v Speaker 1>there's all different types of people, you know, all different

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<v Speaker 1>types of people from like a professional sense, all different

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00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>types of people in terms of like they all have

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<v Speaker 1>these crazy different stories and it's just you know, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>is just another one of those colorful personalities. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happy that I got to sit down with him, so,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hope you guys enjoyed that as well. Last

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<v Speaker 1>thing before I get up on out of here, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to give a shout out to Sean from Fort Lauderdale.

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting there kind of watching the end of

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty five K the Heads Up Day one A,

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<v Speaker 1>which also, by the way, I didn't talk about today,

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<v Speaker 1>just because at time of recording, they're still playing the

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<v Speaker 1>final round of the day. I don't really know what's

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<v Speaker 1>happening there. I'm home already, so we'll just catch up

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<v Speaker 1>with that one on the next show and see how

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<v Speaker 1>it goes. I do know that Michael mcsrocky was playing

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<v Speaker 1>Phil Helmuth in the third rounds. That's an absolute blockbuster

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<v Speaker 1>of a match. But back to Sean from Fort Lauderdale,

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<v Speaker 1>he came out to Vegas to play a few events.

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<v Speaker 1>He recently landed. Like when I had talked to him,

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<v Speaker 1>his body clock was still three hours ahead. But he's

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<v Speaker 1>got a couple of events coming up. So good luck

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<v Speaker 1>to Sean out there. I hope to see him up

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<v Speaker 1>in that w s AP Grand Arena doing his thing,

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<v Speaker 1>making a deep run. He said that he has a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of success in a lot of tournaments that have

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<v Speaker 1>like four thousand plus player fields. You know, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>deep runs like you know, I think you mentioned two

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<v Speaker 1>twelve fifteen something like that, so he can do the

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<v Speaker 1>damn thing. So, you know, looking at like the monster stack,

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<v Speaker 1>looking at that seventeen dollars SOP circuit showcase event, I

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<v Speaker 1>forget what that one is called. But you know you

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<v Speaker 1>got those big field no limit events coming up, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see if Sean out of Fort Lauderdale can can

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<v Speaker 1>make a run at it. But that's gonna be it

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Thank you guys once again for tuning in

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<v Speaker 1>to another episode of the Poker gro Cod Podcast. It

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<v Speaker 1>does really feel like, Okay, we're in it.

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<v Speaker 4>And we're ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy I was able to get some interviews. I'm happy,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we got some winners down there. The freaking

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<v Speaker 1>stage is revealed. I mean, look like I'm pumped.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready to go.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I got an interview coming up, I think tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as it happens or today or whatever, with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Platt, the MC of the SIP, the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the SIP Experience. I don't really know what his title is.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask him on the podcast what the hell I

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00:54:16.039 --> 00:54:18.599
<v Speaker 1>should be calling him, but Jeff's awesome. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>a lot about what the WP is doing for this

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00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 1>summer and then obviously going forward in this new era

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<v Speaker 1>for the brand, the biggest brand, the biggest series in

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00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the game. But that's it for me, Donnie Peters, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out of here and I will talk to you guys

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<v Speaker 1>next time.
