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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBS Boston's Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much to call. I will get everybody

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<v Speaker 2>to eleven fifty eight so I can get you, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with two minutes to Saturday morning. Just stick with me

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<v Speaker 2>for the next four hours. We have an interesting program

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<v Speaker 2>coming up before we start tonight. Just the two minor

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<v Speaker 2>matters that I would like, well, they're not minor matters,

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<v Speaker 2>are major matters. First of all, I want to send

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<v Speaker 2>a big happy birthday wish out to a young man

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<v Speaker 2>by the name of Bill Dougherty. Bill Dougherty, who is

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<v Speaker 2>married to his lovely wife Elaine. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 2>tell you how old Bill is. He's actually celebrating his

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<v Speaker 2>twenty eighth birthday tonight. That is the spirit of this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a great friend. I saw a picture of him

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<v Speaker 2>with his granddaughter and it looks like there's a Holy

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<v Speaker 2>Cross celebration going on in the Doughty household. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think it has to do with maybe that young hockey

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<v Speaker 2>player has committed to play college hockey. So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot going on in the Doughty household tonight. And I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect there's a purple and white collars are abounding on

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I have it backwards. I'm not sure. Can you.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you have a granddaughter at the age of twenty eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Probably not Probably he may be a little older that,

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<v Speaker 2>but he's in spirit. He's twenty eight. So Bill Dougherty,

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<v Speaker 2>congratulations to you and Elaine. You're a saint putting up

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<v Speaker 2>with him. There's no doubt about that. At least that's

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm told. Anyway, even on Bill's birthday, Elaine, we

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<v Speaker 2>got to give you a shout out. Okay, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>I also want to congratulate our winner of the Unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>Paul from South Boston never got in touch with us,

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<v Speaker 2>don't know why. But our runner up and now is

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<v Speaker 2>with Pelvis tonight and that is his actual name. His

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<v Speaker 2>mother must have been a big Elvis Presley fan. Pelvis

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<v Speaker 2>Presley of Middleton has won the first tote bag because

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<v Speaker 2>he was very close. He ped it. He predicted that

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<v Speaker 2>Trump would win with three hundred and seven electoral votes.

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<v Speaker 2>He was only five away. Because we haven't heard from

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<v Speaker 2>Paul Pelvis that tote bag from our friends at college,

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<v Speaker 2>Hype is on the way. Now. We have a very

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<v Speaker 2>busy show tonight and we have four really interesting topics

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<v Speaker 2>here in the eight o'clock hour. No phone calls this hour.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm delighted to introduce to all of you Alex London,

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<v Speaker 2>who was a librarian. It was Massachusetts, a beautiful community,

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<v Speaker 2>and there was a story that we saw in the

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<v Speaker 2>Worcester Telegram recently about Worcester Public Library was reunited with

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<v Speaker 2>an o overdue book of fifty one years. Alex, this

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<v Speaker 2>is a great story. Tell us about this. You are

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<v Speaker 2>a genealogy and local history librarian with the Worcester Public Library.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for joining us. This is a great What was

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<v Speaker 2>the book that was kept by someone or someone's family

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<v Speaker 2>for fifty one years was the title of the book.

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<v Speaker 3>Called the Early Works of Aubrey Beardsley, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>published in eighteen ninety nine. So quite an old book.

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<v Speaker 2>We dropped the first couple of seconds the early Works

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<v Speaker 2>of Aubrey Beardsley exactly. I must tell you, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I've read any of the early works or the

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<v Speaker 2>late works of Aubrey Bearsley. Sounds with a name like that,

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<v Speaker 2>they could be sort of a relief picture for the California,

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<v Speaker 2>for the Los Angeles Angels. Daty myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, I tell you I wasn't familiar with

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<v Speaker 3>Aubrey Beardsley either. But it actually it turns out that

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't a writer, but he was in fact an artist.

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<v Speaker 3>So it was really kind of a publication which had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of his early drawings. Interestingly enough, apparently he

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<v Speaker 3>did a lot of work on book illustrations and drawing

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<v Speaker 3>the covers book, so that was that was pretty fitting,

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<v Speaker 3>but really just a collection of his artwork.

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<v Speaker 2>So how did the book show up? I mean, does

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<v Speaker 2>someone walk in and say, gee, I've had this book

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<v Speaker 2>for fifty one years. I'm sure that wasn't what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>And someone said, okay, let's see ten cents a year

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<v Speaker 2>you owe us whatever with compounded interest, who brought it

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<v Speaker 2>in and what were the circumstances well, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, it's interesting. Somebody actually brought it into the Cambridge

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<v Speaker 3>Public Library. They had, according to the librarians and Cambridge,

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<v Speaker 3>they had rescued it from being thrown out. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if that means that maybe you know, they're cleaning

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<v Speaker 3>out someone's attic and found it, or you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>found it on sort of a used book sale, but

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<v Speaker 3>they noticed that it had Worcester Public Library markings on it,

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<v Speaker 3>so they brought it into into Cambridge, which you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I guess was the closest library to them. And the

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<v Speaker 3>Cambridge Library reached out to us and said, you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a book with the due date slip from

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen seventy three. Would you be interested in having it back?

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<v Speaker 3>And sure enough we were, Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an amazing story. Obviously it's not someone I was

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<v Speaker 2>joking when I asked the question. It's not someone who

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<v Speaker 2>would have held onto the book. You just forgot to

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<v Speaker 2>bring it back to the library. But yes, you hear

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<v Speaker 2>these stories every once in a while. Has anyone figured

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<v Speaker 2>out what is the longest book that was overdue? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this has to be pretty close to a record, if

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<v Speaker 2>not an actual record. I mean we've heard about books

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<v Speaker 2>twenty years, thirty years, but this is fifty one years.

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<v Speaker 2>And any idea what the longest overdue book, the latest

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<v Speaker 2>or the most tardy overdue book in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>any library in America? Is there? I assume someone has

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<v Speaker 2>that record somewhere. I don't know if you do.

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<v Speaker 3>I assume that someone does. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>necessarily if it's us. You do hear stories about this

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<v Speaker 3>pop up every every once in a while, But certainly,

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<v Speaker 3>at least for our library, this is the oldest, the

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<v Speaker 3>oldest overdue book that we've ever had come back to us.

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<v Speaker 3>But if it's not a record for the United States,

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<v Speaker 3>I'd imagine it has to be at least up there.

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<v Speaker 2>It has to be in the top ten. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>doubt about that. Now. Have you actually received the book

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<v Speaker 2>already from from Cambridge?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yes, yes, we have it back. It's currently currently

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<v Speaker 3>on my desk.

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<v Speaker 2>And is it available for lending or is it are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to keep it out of circulation for a while?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, it's it's funny, it's actually no longer

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<v Speaker 3>in our library catalog because it's been out of the

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<v Speaker 3>library for so for so long that you know, a

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<v Speaker 3>while back in the nineties, we switched over from the

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<v Speaker 3>old you know, card catalog drawers if you if you

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<v Speaker 3>remember that, oh, well, electronic cataloging. But you know, since

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<v Speaker 3>the book wasn't in the library, it was actually never

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<v Speaker 3>added to our electronic catalog. But to answer your question,

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<v Speaker 3>we are actually going to have it re cataloged and

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<v Speaker 3>make it, uh, you know, make it available on the shelves.

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<v Speaker 2>Though.

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<v Speaker 3>What we are going to do, given the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>the book is so old and the fact that it

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<v Speaker 3>was you know, on the lamb for so long, we

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<v Speaker 3>are going to make it so that it can only

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<v Speaker 3>be used in the library. So unfortunately people won't be

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<v Speaker 3>able to to take it home, but hopefully soon they

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<v Speaker 3>will be able to come in and you know, see

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<v Speaker 3>it if they're like.

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<v Speaker 2>What what condition was it in? Did it did it

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<v Speaker 2>just sit somewhere or was it in rough shape when

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<v Speaker 2>it came in?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it was actually it was actually in great shape.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Some of the pages were a little bit yellowed as

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<v Speaker 3>you as you might expect, but you know, overall it

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<v Speaker 3>was I don't know exactly where it was for over

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<v Speaker 3>fifty years, but it seemed like wherever it was it

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<v Speaker 3>was in a in decent enough condition. You know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Inside the book there's a little you know, the Worcester

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<v Speaker 3>librarians of the time, they put in a little message

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<v Speaker 3>that says, you know, this book is the property of

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<v Speaker 3>the Worcester Public Library. You know, good care and prompt

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<v Speaker 3>return or the responsibility of each borrower. So so I

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<v Speaker 3>was saying that, you know, they did take quite good

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<v Speaker 3>care of it, but the prompt return they didn't. They

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<v Speaker 3>didn't quite have that down.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's just that you'd love to know the whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and of course it's impossible to figure out.

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<v Speaker 2>But but someone must have taken it out, forgotten about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and somehow, some way it made its way to Cambridge.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's a great it is a great story

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<v Speaker 2>and Alex really appreciate, you know, it's funny. So so,

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<v Speaker 2>how how old are the books in your library? Are

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<v Speaker 2>they books to go back to the to the nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, we have, you know, not too many of them,

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<v Speaker 3>but we do have certain books that are from the

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<v Speaker 3>eighteen hundreds, even the seventeen and sixteen hundreds. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>those don't circulate, but we do have we do have

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<v Speaker 3>some very old books.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, when I first started as a TV reporter, I

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<v Speaker 2>am proud to tell you that I was the subject

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<v Speaker 2>of a book that was a fellow out of Vermont

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Moscow, Vermont, and he did a series of

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<v Speaker 2>books called A Day in the Life of and he

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<v Speaker 2>happened to do A Day in the Life of a

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<v Speaker 2>Television Reporter, which was me back in nineteen eighty one.

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<v Speaker 2>And so that book, now, I realize, is pretty darn old,

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<v Speaker 2>but I have a few that I kept there in

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<v Speaker 2>premo condition, which I intend to pass on to my grandchildren.

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<v Speaker 2>You might check it out someday, because I was told

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<v Speaker 2>that that book was published by Little Brown, was a

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<v Speaker 2>hardcover book, a lot of pictures, a lot of stories.

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<v Speaker 2>Who was a children's book, you know, for kids who

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to become TV reporter a journalist. And I'm told

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<v Speaker 2>that that book was literally in every public library in America.

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<v Speaker 2>And while I worked for Channel four many years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>periodically I would get a book sent to me by

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<v Speaker 2>a librarian. I remember one from Saint Joseph's, Missouri, and

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of others. They would send them to me

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<v Speaker 2>and say, we're cleaning our shelves and we thought you

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<v Speaker 2>might like to have this book, so I have a

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<v Speaker 2>few copies of the book. I would bet you you

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<v Speaker 2>have one at your Worcester library, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 2>A Day in the Library. The television reporter and the

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<v Speaker 2>author was a fellow named Bill Jasperson jasp E R.

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<v Speaker 2>S o h n. Great guy, Yale graduate, wonderful writer,

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<v Speaker 2>did his whole series of books on Day in the

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<v Speaker 2>Life of a Marine Biologist, an entire series going in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineteen eighties. Actually, so pleasure to always talk about books.

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<v Speaker 2>We recently had Ken gloss on from the Bradle Bookshop.

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<v Speaker 2>We love talking about books here on Nightside, and this

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<v Speaker 2>is a very memorable bookstory. So thanks Alex for joining

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<v Speaker 2>us tonight on a Friday night and telling us a

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<v Speaker 2>story about a long overdue book coming home to Worcester.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me on.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Thanks Alice, Alex, I very very much appreciate your

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<v Speaker 2>passion for books. When we get back, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, let's talk with Ken Small. He's a local author

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<v Speaker 2>of Brookline based Ken. Welcome, a nice side. How are you.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing great, Thanks so much for having me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you've just released a book about entitled The

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<v Speaker 2>Last Kimiski. Talking about Komisky Park. You actually talked to

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<v Speaker 2>Comiskey park. Uh, tell us about what you do? You

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<v Speaker 2>have the stadium vagabond. How many stadiums have you visited

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I have photographed over twenty four hundred stadiums around

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I thought it was I thought it

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<v Speaker 4>That's just baseball's and actually that's that's a little low.

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<v Speaker 4>That's probably about six hundred. I was just doing some

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<v Speaker 4>I started this back in Michigan when I was in

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<v Speaker 4>as a side pursuit ever since then. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>in my life. And as I continued out, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>it all started back at Commiste Park in Chicago, where

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I'm going to throw one at you here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming you've done all the ballparks in you know,

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<v Speaker 2>all the minor league ballparks in America. Okay, is there

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<v Speaker 2>any ballpark in America baseball ballpark that you haven't visited.

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<v Speaker 4>There are a few, and some obscure parts of the country.

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<v Speaker 4>few in Louisiana, but I'm up there. I've got about

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<v Speaker 4>maybe four hundred minor league parks most of the college

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<v Speaker 4>ballparks and softball ballparks, so there are definitely some places

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<v Speaker 2>So, man, this is unbelievable. And okay, how many countries

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<v Speaker 2>have you visited to see stadium or as I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>To twenty four right now, so we you know, keep

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<v Speaker 4>adding every year to something new. But off to twenty

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<v Speaker 4>four countries in forty eight states, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually one day while I was in Oslo made

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<v Speaker 2>was in sort of kind of like a neighborhood. Have

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I need to get up to Scandinavia. That's

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<v Speaker 4>a part of Europe I haven't been to. I did

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<v Speaker 4>recently see a ballpark in Rotterdam in the Netherlands, which

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<v Speaker 2>Baseball A baseball park is what, yeah, yeah, which is okay, fine, Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>that's unbelievable. Have you ever had while you were out

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<v Speaker 2>looking at one of these ballparks. I remember when I

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<v Speaker 2>I'm young enough. You're not young enough to remember when

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<v Speaker 2>the Red Sox back in the sixties and seventies used

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<v Speaker 2>to open up the gates at Fenway Park about at

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<v Speaker 2>This was in the bad old days, when the Red

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<v Speaker 2>Has there ever been a ballpark or a stadium that

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<v Speaker 4>I've had a lot of problems over the years. I've

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<v Speaker 4>caught in Antwerp sneaking into it and I got caught,

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<v Speaker 4>But most people are nice when I tell them what

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<v Speaker 4>just act as perfidently as I can and move in,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not doing any damage. I'm snapping a photo

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<v Speaker 4>and leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>So so tell us about the book. Kmiski Park. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly good neighborhood and in its later years, but it

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<v Speaker 2>the home of the White Sox during the Black Sox

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<v Speaker 2>scandal of the early twentieth century. And there were guys

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<v Speaker 2>Ted Klezuski, Mini Minoso, all these great players who passed through,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, Frank Thomas and later years. What's the most

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<v Speaker 2>important thing to remember about Kimiski Park, other than the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that it was named for the Komiski family, which

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I think Komiskey Park was like one of those real

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<v Speaker 4>special ballparks that doesn't really get its due. It was

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<v Speaker 4>two years older than Fedway Park, opening up in nineteen ten.

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<v Speaker 4>Zachary Taylor Davis was the architect who went on to

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<v Speaker 4>design Rigley Field, although designed it as a Weigman Park

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<v Speaker 4>for the Federal League Wales. But it was an unusual

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<v Speaker 4>ballpark in that it was based to some degree on

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<v Speaker 4>a cathedral style architect architecture. That was what Davis's expertise

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<v Speaker 4>the Roman Coliseum, infusing it with arches all throughout the

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<v Speaker 4>ballpark so that fans could both see out to the neighborhood,

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<v Speaker 4>but the neighborhood could see in with what was going

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<v Speaker 4>on in the ballpark. It was used for baseball, of course,

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<v Speaker 4>but so many other things. The Beatles play there, There

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<v Speaker 4>are prize fights there. The Chicago Cardinals, who are not there. Cardinals, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>played there for decades and in fact are the only

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<v Speaker 4>team in that ballpark. The White Sox the two championships

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<v Speaker 4>they won during that era were on the road, and

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<v Speaker 4>so were the Chicago Negro League of American Giants were

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<v Speaker 4>a real star team at that at that juncture. They

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<v Speaker 4>always won their championships on the road. So the Chicago Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 4>Blake claimed that the only title that occurred in Kamiskey

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<v Speaker 4>Park for the home team.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that would have been, sir, I'm guessing nineteen forty

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<v Speaker 2>three or something like that. Forty years of forty seven.

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<v Speaker 2>The Bears were always Wrigley Field. We used to watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Thanksgiving Day games. The only other thing I have

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<v Speaker 2>a buddy of mine who played in the Major League

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<v Speaker 2>twelve years. He was a pitcher, So he hit one

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<v Speaker 2>home run and he hit it in Komiskey Park. He

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<v Speaker 2>hit it off a pitcher. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>remember the name, Joel Horland, but he was a pretty

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<v Speaker 2>hard hitcher out of Texas, and he hit it a

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<v Speaker 2>you know, an August afternoon. It was his one dinger

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<v Speaker 2>during his career, which is one more than most of

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<v Speaker 2>us have. Ken, I love this story. Tell me, how

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<v Speaker 2>can folks get any of your books? Let's let's try

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<v Speaker 2>to sell some books for you.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, it's a terrific Christmas present for anyone who likes

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<v Speaker 4>sports or baseball, not just White Sox fans, because I

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<v Speaker 4>tali you a lot of other ballparks. It's available at

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<v Speaker 4>laskmiskeybook dot com or at my website stadium vagabond dot com,

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<v Speaker 4>which also has a lot of different stadium prints from

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<v Speaker 4>from throughout the world that people can get in framed

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<v Speaker 4>form or in puzzles. I just posted some really great

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<v Speaker 4>ones of the old Boston Garden and that's something I'm

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<v Speaker 4>to work on in the future, is a book about

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<v Speaker 4>all the New England stadiu And you know, I've lived

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<v Speaker 4>here now half of my life and it's seen a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of great sporting events here. But you know, my

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<v Speaker 4>first start was over at Mysky Park back in the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>First first game you went to right, yeah back.

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<v Speaker 4>Listen eineteen seventy seven was my first game, loss against

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<v Speaker 2>I'll bet you who was who was pitching for? Who

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<v Speaker 2>was pitching for the Orioles. I hope Palmer was pitching

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<v Speaker 4>It was not, It was not, it was it was Tippy.

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<v Speaker 2>Your little left handed picture sure who was pitching for

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I don't remember that. I don't about six years

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<v Speaker 2>But that's great, it's great.

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<v Speaker 4>You know there's some definitely connections to Boston with with

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<v Speaker 4>Comisky black Sack scandal was hatched and near Square.

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<v Speaker 2>More Square Hotel. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hey, you know what, let's uh,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do an hour some night in early December. Have

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<v Speaker 2>your pr person I think it's Sharon, Uh, have her

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch with my producer. I have my producer

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<v Speaker 2>get in touch with you. Let's do an hour some

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<v Speaker 2>Thursday Friday night, either at ten or eleven. And let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's get get some books sold for you across the country.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, sounds terrific.

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<v Speaker 2>Susby can look forward to it. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I love I love sports. Uh, and we'll we'll have

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<v Speaker 2>the hour will fly by, I promise again. The website

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<v Speaker 4>Correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks again, Thank you, Ken, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>Take care.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we get back. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>well a more serious topic. Full House actor David Coolier

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<v Speaker 2>diagnosed with stage three non Hodgkin lymphoma. We're going to

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<v Speaker 2>program at mass General Hospital Cancer Center, right after this break,

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night's Eye with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. By the way, I was mistaken the fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two Olympics were actually in Helsinki. For some reason, I

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<v Speaker 2>a mistake, I tried to correct it. The fifty two Olympics.

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<v Speaker 2>We're in neighboring, actually not neighboring because because Finland is

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I've always thought that I had visited the

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<v Speaker 2>sight of the fifty two Olympics when I looked at

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<v Speaker 2>that stadium in Ostlo, Bislett Stadium. Anyway, let us move on.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that I have made my apology, I apologize for that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not often wrong on sports, although occasionally. So here

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<v Speaker 2>we go. I'm delighted to welcome doctor Jeremy Abramson. He's

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<v Speaker 2>the director of the lymphoma program at Mass General Hospital

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<v Speaker 2>Cancer Center, and the words no one wants to hear

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<v Speaker 2>are a stage three non Hodgkin lymphoma, Doctor Abramson. Welcome

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<v Speaker 2>to nightside, sir, how are you tonight?

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to be with you.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not familiar with this actor. I don't watch as

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<v Speaker 2>much TV as I should. Full house actor Dave Coolier.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that how his name is pronounced. He's a young guy,

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<v Speaker 2>as I understand it, and he's dealing with this might

431
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<v Speaker 2>have been the disease that claimed the life of former

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<v Speaker 2>Massachusetts Senator Paul song As if I'm not.

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<v Speaker 5>Mistaken, Yeah, this a song has also had a type

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<v Speaker 5>of non Hodgkin lymphoma. Turns out there are lots of

435
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<v Speaker 5>different types of non host so they probably had different diseases,

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<v Speaker 5>but all under the same umbrella.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so what okay when you say how many varieties

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<v Speaker 2>are we talking about here? Because that's the first thing,

439
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<v Speaker 2>and I always learned things in interviews. That's the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing I learned. I thought that the diagnosis of stage

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<v Speaker 2>three well a non Hodgkin lymphoma was one type of disease.

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<v Speaker 2>Explained to us why there's such a number of variations

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<v Speaker 2>that fit under that umbrella if you could.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, sure so. Lymphoma is a general term for any

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<v Speaker 5>cancer that comes from O lymphocyte, which is a type

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<v Speaker 5>of white blood cell that we all have in our

447
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<v Speaker 5>blood stream, lives in our lymph nodes all of our organs.

448
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<v Speaker 5>They're designed to keep us safe from infections, viruses, bacteria,

449
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<v Speaker 5>that sort of thing. We all have two types of

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<v Speaker 5>healthy lymphocytes, B lymphocytes and T lymphocytes, So non hoggen

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<v Speaker 5>lymphomas can come from either B lymphocytes or T lymphocytes,

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<v Speaker 5>and so that leads to either B cell non hodgegen

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<v Speaker 5>lymphomas and T cell non hodge gen lymphomas. Turns out

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<v Speaker 5>there are several dozens of each type, and within the

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<v Speaker 5>B cell non hodgeg lymphomas, which is the type that

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<v Speaker 5>Dave Coolay announced that he has, there are close to

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<v Speaker 5>four dozen different types of B cell non hodgeg lymphoma,

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<v Speaker 5>and each of these diseases actually has a different biology

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<v Speaker 5>based on what type of mutation happens within a lymphocyte

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<v Speaker 5>when it goes awry will lead to the different type

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<v Speaker 5>of lymphoma that develops, and some of them can be

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<v Speaker 5>very aggressive, nasty, dangerous diseases. Other B cell non hogg

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<v Speaker 5>lymphomas are actually we call in lend very slow growing

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<v Speaker 5>and may never even be life threatening. So there's really

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<v Speaker 5>a huge variety and that affects how we approach it.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's good to know that, yes, yeah, I'm stunned

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<v Speaker 2>by that. And I assume that that doesn't make your

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<v Speaker 2>job as the treating physician, surgeon or whatever and the

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<v Speaker 2>easier because I assumed that the variety of treatments must

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<v Speaker 2>be specialized for each type of this disease.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, that's exactly right. It didn't used to be that way.

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<v Speaker 5>It used to be that as oncologists, we had a

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<v Speaker 5>limited number of tools in our tool chest, and they

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<v Speaker 5>were basic chemotherapy drugs, and so we treated all lymphomas

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<v Speaker 5>and a one size fits all approach with sort of

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<v Speaker 5>old fashioned chemotherapies. It turns out today, the more we

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<v Speaker 5>understand the biology of each of these different underlying lymphomas,

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<v Speaker 5>the more we can treat them in a directed way.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's why today each of these diseases often treated

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<v Speaker 5>distinctly with different types of targeted drugs, different types of

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<v Speaker 5>immunotherapy is where we actually help harness the power of

482
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<v Speaker 5>the patient's own immune system against their own cancer to

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<v Speaker 5>eradicate it, and that's led to much better outcomes. Across

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<v Speaker 5>the board. Regardless of the type of lymphoma, a patient

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<v Speaker 5>might have.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing that I'm sure everyone who's listening tonight is

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<v Speaker 2>thinking is what are the symptoms? What? What do you

488
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<v Speaker 2>need to look out for? Obviously, getting to your doctor

489
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<v Speaker 2>once at least maybe twice a year, getting some blood

490
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<v Speaker 2>tests are critical here. But for those who are not

491
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<v Speaker 2>being that vigilant, is that is it fatigue that might

492
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<v Speaker 2>give someone some concern to be checked out. What are

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<v Speaker 2>some of the early symptoms that to get to get

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of this disease.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 4>Dan.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, there's no specific symptom for lymphoma. There are

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<v Speaker 5>a number of potential symptoms. The most common symptom, believe

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<v Speaker 5>it or not, is just painless enlargement of lymphnodes. Generally,

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<v Speaker 5>lympho aren't painful, but if you notice a lump or

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<v Speaker 5>a bump that you hadn't noticed before. Lymphodes live commonly

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<v Speaker 5>in the neck, under the arms and the armpits and

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<v Speaker 5>the groin. They look deeper in the body too, but

504
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<v Speaker 5>you wouldn't be able to feel them, so unexplained painless

505
00:27:16.160 --> 00:27:22.079
<v Speaker 5>swelling in those regions certainly warms evaluation. Additionally, some lymphomas,

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<v Speaker 5>particularly the more aggressive types of lymphoma, can have systemic symptoms.

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<v Speaker 5>These could be unexplained fevers, drenching sweats at night where

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<v Speaker 5>people drench through their bedclothes and their sheets and have

509
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<v Speaker 5>to kind of change them in the middle of the night,

510
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<v Speaker 5>unexplained fatigue, unexplained weight loss, that kind of thing. But

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<v Speaker 5>the most common thing is just you know, somebody's shaving

512
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<v Speaker 5>and they'd notice a bump that they hadn't noticed before,

513
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<v Speaker 5>or they just feel around and find something. But certainly

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<v Speaker 5>any unexplained symptoms certainly warn't a visit to your doctor.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a correlation in terms of gender or a

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<v Speaker 2>with the frequency of this.

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<v Speaker 5>Disease, You know, it depends on the subtype of lymphoma,

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<v Speaker 5>But in general, lymphomas can occur at any age. They

519
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<v Speaker 5>can occur in children, and my oldest patients are in

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<v Speaker 5>their hundreds on average. The median age is in the

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<v Speaker 5>mid sixties, but it can literally occur at any age.

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<v Speaker 5>And I just take care of adults, and my youngest

523
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<v Speaker 5>patients are teenagers and my oldest patients are centenarians. There

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<v Speaker 5>are no very clear risk factors in general most patients

525
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<v Speaker 5>lymphomas or what we call sporadic or random in nature,

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<v Speaker 5>or a lightning strike, if you will. There are certain

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<v Speaker 5>folks who are at slightly higher risk. Those include people

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<v Speaker 5>with autoimmune diseases, people with certain chronic infections like HIV,

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<v Speaker 5>people whose immune systems are suppressed for other reasons, such

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<v Speaker 5>as they've had an organ transplanter. They take an immune

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<v Speaker 5>suppressant for an autoimmune disease. And then there's some association

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00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:07.079
<v Speaker 5>with things like smoking and obesity. So healthy living is

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<v Speaker 5>always good. But the majority of people who develop a lymphoma,

534
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<v Speaker 5>it's not from anything they ate, drank, smoked, where they lived,

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<v Speaker 5>anything like that. It's simply a stroke of bad luck.

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<v Speaker 5>Although i will say all lymphomas are treatable. Many of

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<v Speaker 5>them are highly curable, so I'm always optimistic when I'm

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<v Speaker 5>meeting with a patient for the very first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor, I hear it in your voice, and I hear

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<v Speaker 2>also in your voice a passion for what you do,

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm always amazed whenever I talk to you, know,

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<v Speaker 2>the high profile docs like yourself, that you have to

543
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<v Speaker 2>deal with people every day who are getting horrific news,

544
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<v Speaker 2>and yet you continue to carry on. And I just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say you probably don't get thanked enough. But

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<v Speaker 2>any doctor who I've ever talked to, you take care

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<v Speaker 2>of us when we are at the lowest point in

548
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<v Speaker 2>our lives, and you many times cure us and many

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<v Speaker 2>times help and always help us. I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>say thank you for your time tonight and thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for what you do.

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<v Speaker 5>Thanks Dan, it's my honor and privilege.

553
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<v Speaker 4>It really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you it's I'm just blown away by

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<v Speaker 2>by your passion. And again, I'd love to have you

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<v Speaker 2>back at some point periodically, because I think the more

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<v Speaker 2>we know about these diseases, the earlier all of us

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<v Speaker 2>can catch them and present ourselves to great physicians and

559
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<v Speaker 2>surgeons like yourself. Thank you again, Doctor Jeremy Abramson, the

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<v Speaker 2>director of le Lymphoma Program at mass General Hospital Cancer Center.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks again, Doctor Abramson. Thank you, good night. Thanks well

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<v Speaker 2>we come back. We're going to end on a really

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<v Speaker 2>up note. Bobby's Books in Winchester. It's the newest pop up.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to spoil the surprise here, but it's

565
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<v Speaker 2>run by a second greater. All proceeds go to charity.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk with Bobby Atchinson and his mom. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>second grade at the Ambrose Was Elementary School in Winchester.

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<v Speaker 2>Also talked with his mom, Gina. Gina, I thought, I

569
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<v Speaker 2>think it's pronounced right after this, and we'll find out

570
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<v Speaker 2>everything we need to know about the newest pop up

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<v Speaker 2>in Winchester.

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<v Speaker 1>Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World

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<v Speaker 1>Night Side Studios on w b Z News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I'm delighted to welcome two guests, Bobby Atchinson

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<v Speaker 2>and his mom, Gina Atchinson. Welcome to both of you.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you both doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 6>Good?

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<v Speaker 2>Good? That's Bob. I can tell Bob, Hey, Bob, you

579
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<v Speaker 2>have started Winchester's newest pop up? What what do you?

580
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<v Speaker 2>What do you do? By the way, I want to

581
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<v Speaker 2>just mention that the Boston Globe, actually I think did

582
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<v Speaker 2>this story, uh, and the reporter there is a woman

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<v Speaker 2>named Cara Baskin uh. And I want to give Cara credit,

584
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<v Speaker 2>uh for for doing this story. How does it feel, Bob,

585
00:32:00.480 --> 00:32:02.759
<v Speaker 2>to already have been in a newspaper now be on

586
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<v Speaker 2>the radio?

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00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:05.599
<v Speaker 6>Really good?

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<v Speaker 2>Really good? So, so tell us about your store? What

589
00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:10.680
<v Speaker 2>what's the sale at your store?

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<v Speaker 6>Did you say it again?

591
00:32:16.200 --> 00:32:19.039
<v Speaker 2>Sure? Tell us about your store? What what do you

592
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>what are you selling?

593
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<v Speaker 3>What?

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<v Speaker 2>What's what's going on? Tell us about your your your

595
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<v Speaker 2>your project? Here, what's what's the deal?

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<v Speaker 6>So we're selling books and all the proceeds go to

597
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<v Speaker 6>the Home of Little Wanders. The Home of Little Wanders

598
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<v Speaker 6>are kids that don't have homes.

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00:32:37.799 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I'm very familiar with that. That's a I think

600
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>it's still in Jamaica. Plane. It's a great institution. So

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<v Speaker 2>where do you get the book? What type of books

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<v Speaker 2>are you selling?

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<v Speaker 6>We're selling elementary books, some older kids books because my

604
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<v Speaker 6>friends and family helped out donating books to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Really, so your your your customers are kids your age

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<v Speaker 2>and a little older. I guess right, yeah, yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how did you How did you come up with this idea?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you and your mom work on it together? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a project? Was it your idea?

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<v Speaker 6>So I had a bunch of books in my bedroom

611
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<v Speaker 6>and they started paralleling up. I said we should do

612
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<v Speaker 6>something about these books. We started donating them, and I said,

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<v Speaker 6>why don't we make a bookstore?

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<v Speaker 3>And then.

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<v Speaker 6>My mom said yeah, and then we and then we started.

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<v Speaker 4>Not doing it.

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<v Speaker 6>And then my mom said, why don't we give all

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<v Speaker 6>the money to charity? And I said, yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 6>and then she said, we could give it to some

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<v Speaker 6>home of the Little Wonders. And she looked at there's

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<v Speaker 6>the closest one by, and there was one really close by.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I said, go ahead, Bobby. Do you mean

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<v Speaker 2>do you mean to interrupt?

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<v Speaker 3>You?

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead?

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<v Speaker 6>I said that that would be great to do.

627
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<v Speaker 3>That.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great idea. So how do people get in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with you if they want to purchase a book?

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<v Speaker 6>So in the morning a lot of people come by

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<v Speaker 6>or walk by it and they might try to get

632
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<v Speaker 6>the books, or they can just take a look at them.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, so now it's called the pop up store.

634
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<v Speaker 2>You're probably smarter at this terminology than me. Do you do?

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<v Speaker 2>You have like a little stand in front of your

636
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<v Speaker 2>house and you on a nice day you bring some

637
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<v Speaker 2>of the books out and you talk to people as

638
00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 2>they're going by. Is that how it works? Or did

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<v Speaker 2>they come up and ring the doorbell and say, hey, Bob,

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<v Speaker 2>what sort of books do you have for sale?

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<v Speaker 6>That never really happened?

642
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<v Speaker 2>How's it?

643
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<v Speaker 6>We do it at Starbucks? I mean sucks.

644
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<v Speaker 2>So you show up, oh, okay, the Starbucks in Winchester,

645
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<v Speaker 2>and what do you do? You set up a little

646
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<v Speaker 2>table or something with books.

647
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<v Speaker 3>We set up a.

648
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<v Speaker 6>Little table and we have like bookstands on it, you

649
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<v Speaker 6>know those spinning things that have a bunch of things

650
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<v Speaker 6>around it. That's where we put most.

651
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<v Speaker 7>Of the bigger books because they don't sit in our shelves.

652
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<v Speaker 6>They don't in our shelves.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, this is great. I'm looking at the picture that

654
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<v Speaker 2>was in the Globe in Carabaskin's column and that really

655
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<v Speaker 2>you got some stands, you got you had quite a

656
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<v Speaker 2>collection of books. Are you a biblio file? That that's

657
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<v Speaker 2>a word that means loves books. So you're a biblia file? Yeah, yeah, okay,

658
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<v Speaker 2>that's that's from the French. In France they call libraries

659
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<v Speaker 2>a BiblioTech and that's that's where the word. So you

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<v Speaker 2>now know you're a bibliophile, okay, And that's a good

661
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<v Speaker 2>thing to be because I love books too, and these

662
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<v Speaker 2>are books that this is great. You got to sign

663
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<v Speaker 2>and everything. You really how long you've been doing this, Bob?

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<v Speaker 6>It started last week.

665
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<v Speaker 2>So this is only a week old. Wow, boy, we

666
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<v Speaker 2>got in on the ground floor here. These are great pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish you're best of luck with this. Can I

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<v Speaker 2>talk to your mom for a second. Is she is

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<v Speaker 2>she close by. Hi, Hi, Hi Jenna, how are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>This is quite quite an entrepreneurial effort. I just uh

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<v Speaker 2>looked at the picture here of Bob at his table.

673
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<v Speaker 2>This one looks like I'm not sure. I guess you

674
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<v Speaker 2>inside or outside? This data They in the cold, the weather.

675
00:36:58.920 --> 00:37:01.079
<v Speaker 2>He doing it in the winter time.

676
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<v Speaker 7>We're actually not We're just going to do it for

677
00:37:04.920 --> 00:37:09.719
<v Speaker 7>three weekends leading up to Giving Tuesday and December. And

678
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<v Speaker 7>it's right outside in front of the Starbucks in Winchester

679
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<v Speaker 7>Center from nine to eleven am. And he's collected books

680
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<v Speaker 7>from a lot of his friends in the community and

681
00:37:22.239 --> 00:37:25.480
<v Speaker 7>kids in his elementary school, and also his own books

682
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<v Speaker 7>that he's read that he wants to share with other kids.

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<v Speaker 7>So every book's five bucks and all the money goes

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<v Speaker 7>to the Little Home, the Home by Little Wanders. And

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<v Speaker 7>we're very proud of him. He's very excited about this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 7>So thank you so much for being interested in chatting

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<v Speaker 7>about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. No, he did a nice job. He's entrepreneurial, that's

689
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<v Speaker 2>for sure. I explained to him that he's now a bibliophile.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if you heard my explanation him,

691
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<v Speaker 2>but obviously in France, the library's called the BiblioTech and

692
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<v Speaker 2>so that's I think the derivation of the word bibliophile.

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<v Speaker 2>So he now can he knows he's a bibliophile. Well,

694
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<v Speaker 2>handsome looking young man, obviously a great presentation. Has this

695
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<v Speaker 2>story been in the Globe or is this going to

696
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<v Speaker 2>be in the Globe over the weekend?

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<v Speaker 7>It just went out today. So Kerabaskin did her newsletter

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<v Speaker 7>Parenting and Filtered on Thursday, and then the Globe published

699
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<v Speaker 7>it this morning. So we're very proud of him and

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<v Speaker 7>it's been exciting to see the response.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's great. So you'll be there tomorrow morning from

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<v Speaker 2>nine to eleven, Yes, at the Winchester Starbucks. So I'm

703
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<v Speaker 2>going to have all my Dunkin Donut friends. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>Dunkin Donuts guy that I want you to at least

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<v Speaker 2>go over to the Starbucks exactly downtown Winchester.

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<v Speaker 7>Thank you to go into the Starbucks. We'll be right outside.

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<v Speaker 2>They give you did you have to get are they cooperating?

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<v Speaker 2>Did they give you permission to set up out.

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<v Speaker 7>There or is this just a little permit in the town.

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<v Speaker 7>So we reached out to the town and then we

711
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<v Speaker 7>reached out to the charity, and it's been a nice little,

712
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<v Speaker 7>you know, end to end experiment to kind of show him,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, something he's passionate about, which is reading in

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<v Speaker 7>books and how that can benefit other kids who might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Great just great connections for him. And he's gonna he's

716
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<v Speaker 2>gonna be he's already something. He's going to be really something.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure we're going to follow his career and figure

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<v Speaker 2>out that he uh, he's going to do something special,

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<v Speaker 2>that's for sure. Jenna, is it Jenna Regina?

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry either way, it's Gina, but you know, all right, Gena,

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<v Speaker 5>all right, Gina, thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>You should be very proud of him to Bob tell

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<v Speaker 2>him again. Congratulations, Thank you so.

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<v Speaker 7>Much, Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>When we get back, we're going to talk about the

726
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<v Speaker 2>Pink House up on Plumb Island. Where do you hear

727
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<v Speaker 2>this story? Here comes the news