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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, welcome back. We originally had intended to do

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<v Speaker 2>guest still with us is a resident, longtime resident of

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<v Speaker 2>the community of the South End, doesn't live too far

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<v Speaker 2>at all from mass and cast name is Brian McCarter.

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<v Speaker 2>Grew up here in Massachusetts and now lives in the

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<v Speaker 2>South End and is putting up with what's going on there. Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>name is Dan Ray and my guest is Brian mccartitt. Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly here. I haven't asked you this question, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you this question. Explain to my

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<v Speaker 2>audience people who have never been in at Massive Cast,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe never been to the South End in Boston. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the only time they've been to Boston is to go

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<v Speaker 2>to Fenway Park, or go to a Bruins or a

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<v Speaker 2>Celtics game, or to I don't know, you know, go

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<v Speaker 2>down the Entertainment District to the theater district. Explain to

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<v Speaker 2>them what you have to put up and what your

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<v Speaker 2>neighbors have to put up besides just the mere presence

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<v Speaker 2>of these folks who in some cases are pretty whacked

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<v Speaker 2>out on some of these potent drugs. Just give us

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<v Speaker 2>a description as best you can of what life can

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<v Speaker 2>be like in that part of the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's frankly sad to see your number of people

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<v Speaker 3>struggling with addiction, but you know, as far as the

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<v Speaker 3>residents' day to day lives, you know, I've been propositioned,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been assaulted, I've had stuff stolen off the porch

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<v Speaker 3>at packages routinely. I've seen guys with hatchets and knives

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<v Speaker 3>and bags full of drugs stepped on needles. But every

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<v Speaker 3>three or four days I have to call on an

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<v Speaker 3>ambulance because someone's passed out and you need to be revived,

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<v Speaker 3>screamed a routinely, and uh, just uh, it's just sometimes

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<v Speaker 3>it's just it's just tough. Care and help people.

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<v Speaker 4>It's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't care if you're a martial arts expert.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to end up in a street fight

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<v Speaker 2>with someone who is who's high on some form of drug.

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, yeah, you don't. You don't know what kind

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<v Speaker 3>of weapons they are carrying, and it's just something you'd

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<v Speaker 3>rather you know, a void.

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<v Speaker 2>And what about just some of the ugly aspect of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you see people who are shooting up in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever portion of their body they need to shoot up

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<v Speaker 2>in correct, and it doesn't matter what they have to

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<v Speaker 2>pull down or pull up in order to get that high.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's correct. So oftentimes people that have been injecting

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<v Speaker 3>a long time, the armbands won't work anymore, so they'll

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<v Speaker 3>often have their pants down and they'll be using legs

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<v Speaker 3>or ankles or you know, feet or hands or places

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<v Speaker 2>And most of these people, obviously, when nature calls in

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<v Speaker 2>whatever form or fashion, they do whatever they have to do,

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<v Speaker 2>irrespective of whether it's on someone's front porch, the lawn,

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's that's a constant issue. The city has made

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<v Speaker 3>an effort to hire a contractor to handle the bodily fluids,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's clearly only one or two people since getting

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<v Speaker 3>them come out and clean up the piece smell is

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<v Speaker 3>quite hard to accomplish. I've not been able to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you. Let's get back to the calls again.

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<v Speaker 2>People have held through the news. I know we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to move people a little more quickly and hopefully we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do a second hour here Bob and Cambridge. Bob, you're

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<v Speaker 2>next on Nice that with my guest Brian McCarter.

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<v Speaker 6>Hello, Dan, Hello Brian, thank you for taking my call.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be kind of quick. I think I have a

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<v Speaker 6>solution to kind of like cut down on a number

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<v Speaker 6>of heads down there. The Losston Police have a very

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<v Speaker 6>good and reliable canine unit as well as the state police.

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<v Speaker 6>I suggest canine handlers with dog, just three of them abreast.

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<v Speaker 6>You will clear those people out of there or set them.

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<v Speaker 7>On their way.

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<v Speaker 6>They will move, Dan and Brian. Has this ever been done?

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<v Speaker 3>That's i I've heard in a while, honestly, because that

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<v Speaker 3>both the DEA and the police have complained they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have sufficient probable cause for a search. You brought a

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<v Speaker 3>canine unit down here to take minutes to find the drugs.

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<v Speaker 6>Okay, the dogs are going to be bugging anyway because

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<v Speaker 6>they can sense the drugs. Okay, the people are going

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<v Speaker 6>to be scared. They will move, But I mean, this

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<v Speaker 6>is ridiculous. Nobody's making them move.

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<v Speaker 4>They've got to be moved out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Bob, I think your suggestion is good. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>impressed by this district attorney. He does not seem to

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<v Speaker 2>be someone who is particularly active in the community. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>show up the obligatory show up when there's an a

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<v Speaker 2>homicide and say this is terrible. We're very concerned. But

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<v Speaker 2>in terms of doing what you're suggesting, just the presence

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<v Speaker 2>of those dogs that would get the folks moving, that's

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<v Speaker 2>for sure. And I wouldn't have three dogs there. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>have ten or twelve dogs there, because you know you

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<v Speaker 2>it's strength in numbers, the strength.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure is, but you don't need too many of those

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<v Speaker 6>bad boys.

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<v Speaker 2>No, understand you, Bob. That's that's a great suggestion. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this police commissioner would do that unless he

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<v Speaker 2>was authorized by the mayor. And I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>mayor won to do anything like that either, to be

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<v Speaker 2>really honest with you, because I don't think her long

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<v Speaker 2>term plan is to stay as mayor of Boston. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that she has political ambitions beyond Mayor of Boston,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why things were pretty darn good when tom

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<v Speaker 2>Monina was mayor because Menino his goal was to remain

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<v Speaker 2>mayor of Boston. I mean, his primary focus and his

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<v Speaker 2>concern was the city of Boston. I'm very I wish

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<v Speaker 2>tom Monina was still running this city. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>problem would have been addressed, in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 4>Good Man.

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<v Speaker 6>One other thing quick, I know you got a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of other people.

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<v Speaker 4>I waited a long time. That's no big deal.

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<v Speaker 6>And when they rought the traffic light panhandling everything right,

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<v Speaker 6>they should be arrested from peting traffic.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, they should be arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the problem is if they stand on the island,

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to say they're not impeding traffic. And also,

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<v Speaker 2>panhandling has been recognized by the US Supreme Court as

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<v Speaker 2>as a form of speech, believe it or not. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's go back to the dogs. I would agree with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for you. Thank you, Bob, appreciate it right

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<v Speaker 2>back at you.

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<v Speaker 4>Bye, Bryan by thank thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, I think that's an idea. I mean I

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<v Speaker 2>think that you basically make it uncomfortable for the people

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<v Speaker 2>to remain there. I mean, they're settled in, they have

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<v Speaker 2>everything they need, you know. I think Bob's idea is

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<v Speaker 2>a good one. We'll take a quick break. Coming right

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside, Brian. I never expected would do more

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<v Speaker 2>than an hour on this, but we're well into it

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<v Speaker 2>and we got full line, so let's stay with it.

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<v Speaker 2>People will be talking about this one tomorrow at work

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<v Speaker 2>and at school and uh wherever they gather tomorrow, because

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<v Speaker 2>Nightside right after this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side, Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get everybody in and I appreciate those

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<v Speaker 2>of you who waited through the newscast. You will be

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<v Speaker 2>in priority here, starting with Bill in Boston. Bill, you

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<v Speaker 2>are next on night Side. Oh, with my guest Brian

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<v Speaker 2>McCarter of Boston South End, living close to mass and

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<v Speaker 2>cast open end drug market. Go ahead, Bill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I've was really upset that Marty Walsh tore down

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<v Speaker 4>the bridge to Long Island. It was a perfect solution

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<v Speaker 4>to the pull up people and you know, put them

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<v Speaker 4>out to that island and they would be isolated and

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<v Speaker 4>there was a you know, a facility there and stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was really really tragic. And I think there's

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<v Speaker 4>this current mayor who's buddies with the Henry's wife who

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<v Speaker 4>runs the Globe. So so she's not worried about this

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<v Speaker 4>because there's no political Miley job of Mass and cast

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<v Speaker 4>that's a that's a no brainer for her. So the

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<v Speaker 4>only thing she's interested in is the you know, the

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<v Speaker 4>Trump things, you know, way out of the city. That's what.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's looking to take Elizabeth Warren's job. When Elizabeth

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<v Speaker 2>Warren decides to hang up her cowboy.

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<v Speaker 4>Boots, that's it. That's and so and so she doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>you know, they play around with the issue a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>But and this is this is a nationwide problem. This

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<v Speaker 4>isn't just Mass and Cassa. If you go on YouTube,

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<v Speaker 4>you can find you know, homeless centers all over the country.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, every huge major city has got you know,

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<v Speaker 4>homeless encampment. And there's drugs and the old deal. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I've been living in Boston for a long

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<v Speaker 4>long time, you know, over fifty years. And I rented

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<v Speaker 4>an apartment in nineteen eighty in Brighton for two hundred

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<v Speaker 4>dollars a month and maybe it was one ninety and

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<v Speaker 4>I look up about that apartment go for now, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it goes for like twenty five twenty six

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<v Speaker 4>hundred or something like that. That's like a thousand percent

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<v Speaker 4>over one thousand percent increase real estate, you know, rentals,

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<v Speaker 4>you have to make ninety grand a year to make

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<v Speaker 4>a you know, to pay the rent by yourself in

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<v Speaker 4>a one bed apartment in Boston, and people have maken that,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of people become homeless because of that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they're going to apply it to this and

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<v Speaker 4>once they've become homeless, you know it's over. And the

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<v Speaker 4>emotional things that happen to people after homelessness is just incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And by the way, you're absolutely right, you're all

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<v Speaker 2>those points you made are great points, but that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make it any easier on my guest, Brian Brian McCarter

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<v Speaker 2>and the other residents in the South End who are

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<v Speaker 2>not homeless and who are simply trying to live their

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<v Speaker 3>And they have people Actually a data thing too, it's

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<v Speaker 3>So by the city's own numbers, they have shelter beds

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<v Speaker 3>for the entire population of mass and casts uh and

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<v Speaker 3>So it's it's not actually a homeless problem, it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>But I think I think what Bill is saying is

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to start an argument with either one

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<v Speaker 2>that homelessness in some cases leads to drug issues, and

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<v Speaker 2>So what's the solution, Bill, in your opinion, what's the solution?

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<v Speaker 4>Or I would if you can't eliminate the problem, and

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<v Speaker 4>you're not going to eliminate the problem with drug addiction,

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<v Speaker 4>you can split it up and not have Boston have

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<v Speaker 5>You can you know you have how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Was you know, I don't know how do you do that?

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<v Speaker 4>You have to create a multi uh city approach or

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<v Speaker 2>No, but but what but Bill, think about it for

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<v Speaker 2>of mass and cast is. What what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>You know, at the peak of Atkinson Street, the city's

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<v Speaker 3>numbers were about four hundred. I've seen shelter figures of

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<v Speaker 3>like six hundred. So we'll call it submerging three or

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so feared up. So let let's let's just play

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<v Speaker 2>with the number four hundred. Name me three cities who

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<v Speaker 2>there city to one hundred drug addicts. And then how

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<v Speaker 2>do you keep those drug addicts even if you convince

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<v Speaker 2>them to go to loll or wherever. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go to Weston and Wellesley. We know that, right, Bill, right?

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<v Speaker 4>You know It's funny you mentioned Lowell because I went

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, then the question is okay, so here's my

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<v Speaker 2>follow up question, Bill, here's my follow up question. You've

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<v Speaker 2>My follow up question is, Okay, you give Lowell twenty

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars whatever, and they say, oh yeah, we'll send

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<v Speaker 2>the buses down, We'll pack two buses, we'll take one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred drug addicts. Okay, every you get the drug addicts

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<v Speaker 2>on there, whatever, Fine, how do you keep them loll?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you know, you can't like put ankle bracelets

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<v Speaker 2>on them and say, oh you're gonna stay low I

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<v Speaker 2>mean lo the money and they could be back. They'll

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's an insoluble problem the way it's being done.

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<v Speaker 2>And I like the idea that our friend from Cambridge

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, I you know, I guess you know

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<v Speaker 4>when they beat, you know, when general's battle people, they

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<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean? So you know, all right,

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<v Speaker 4>you're saying one hundred, how about twenty? You so twenty

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<v Speaker 4>you say, listen, Wellesley, you can take twenty drug addicts.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh good luck with that, man. I'm gonna now ask

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<v Speaker 5>Bill?

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<v Speaker 4>How about guilt? How about guilt? You make all the

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<v Speaker 4>liberals and Wellesley?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah right, you know what? Remember? Remember remember when

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<v Speaker 2>the governor of Florida sent the the immigrants to to

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<v Speaker 2>Marthina's vineyard. How long after they gave him sub sandwiches

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<v Speaker 2>and and Marthin's vinue sweatshirts. How quickly were they on

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<v Speaker 2>the bus to to the Air Force base of Cape Cod.

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<v Speaker 4>That's true, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Look, I don't mean to make light of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think there's got to be a solution here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that when Brian talked about mandated treatment,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you got to look at these people and say, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 2>we can do it the easy way of the hard way.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>You know we can. We can convict you, we can

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<v Speaker 2>lock you up and you can go cold turkey in

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<v Speaker 2>the in you know, in in in prison. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to do that to you, but we got to

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<v Speaker 2>get you squared away. That's I think what you were saying, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to put words in your mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think that's what you were saying. Am I

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<v Speaker 2>correct on that.

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<v Speaker 3>So there is a bill right now that just is

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<v Speaker 3>coming out of committee at the state to expand, which

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<v Speaker 3>is where you commit people to treatment involuntarily if they

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<v Speaker 3>are no longer able to handle their own affairs. And

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<v Speaker 3>so the idea would be to make it mandatory to

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<v Speaker 3>be interviewed by a social worker trained in addiction to decide,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why are you able to handle your affairs

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<v Speaker 3>anymore and put them at the er door basically before

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<v Speaker 3>they're allowed to be discharged. So that would get you

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<v Speaker 3>about well people today, something that I check my numbers again, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, there's got to be something done. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>that's the issue bill. Look that innovative approach bill. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>and some people are going to agree with you. But

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<v Speaker 2>if you can get Wellesley to take twenty to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>of them, I'm going to nominate you to be like

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<v Speaker 2>the next president of the United States. Thanks Bill, Thanks man.

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<v Speaker 2>Talk to you. Okay, here's the news. We will do

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<v Speaker 2>thirty minutes. If you're on the line, all of you

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<v Speaker 2>on the line, you will be heard. I only have

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<v Speaker 2>one line open six, one, seven, nine, three, ten thirty. Brian,

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate your patience, but You're getting exposed to a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people tonight in a good way, and people

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<v Speaker 2>will be talking about this tomorrow. And I'm delighted that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been able to stick with us, and you see

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a lot of interest in this beyond the

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<v Speaker 2>South End, and I think that's a good thing. At

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom line. We'll be back on Night's Out with

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<v Speaker 2>my guest Brian McCart a longtime South End resident. These

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<v Speaker 2>people in the South End they need some help and

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<v Speaker 2>they're not getting it from their politicians, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>getting it from the Boston Police Department. I think they

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<v Speaker 2>get it from and when I say the Boston Police Department,

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the leadership of the Boston Police Department,

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<v Speaker 2>the average police officers, the BPPA guys who work with

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<v Speaker 2>Larry Calderone, the head of the union, they of the

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<v Speaker 2>backbone of the police department. But they can only do

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<v Speaker 2>what the leadership permits them to do. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>I think that something new has to be tried, because

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<v Speaker 2>what do they say, The definition of insanity is keep

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<v Speaker 2>doing the same thing and getting the same result, and

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<v Speaker 2>keep doing it time after time after time. We'll be

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<v Speaker 2>right back on night Side as we deal with this issue,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's such an important issue. We're doing

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<v Speaker 1>It's Night Side with Dan Ray, Boston's news Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we will pick the pace up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go Tom and Fitchburg. Tom, appreciate your taking the

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<v Speaker 2>time and your patients. They're on the here. Tom.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey, Dan, how you doing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm doing great. I appreciate your time. I appreciate your patience.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on with my guest Brian McCarter at the South End.

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<v Speaker 8>Hey Brian, how you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey Tom?

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<v Speaker 8>So, anyways, I just had a couple quick things, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it's a real tough situation down in mass and

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<v Speaker 8>cass I mean, I don't really have too many solutions

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<v Speaker 8>for you.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean these.

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<v Speaker 8>People that are you know, in the government level and

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<v Speaker 8>the mayor, you know, I don't think they have a

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<v Speaker 8>solution for anything, all right. I mean if you look

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<v Speaker 8>at and I don't know if you guys have been following,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, the Karen Reid trial, you know, nobody has

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<v Speaker 8>an answer for anything. I mean, the state of Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 8>looks foolish retrying her again the second time.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't want to open up that can of wrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that later this week, I promise, but

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<v Speaker 2>I want to focus on this. Can you imagine living

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<v Speaker 2>in the South End, Tom and having people literally using

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<v Speaker 2>your property as a public toilet and leaving their their

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<v Speaker 8>No, I couldn't imagine waking up to that every single day.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I have children and bring them to school

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<v Speaker 8>and go to work and just live my life day

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<v Speaker 8>to day and seeing people will defecate on the sidewalks

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<v Speaker 8>and the ibrier nets everywhere. I mean, it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 8>doesn't benefit the people that are in the positions that

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<v Speaker 8>can do something about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I think what happens is a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people turn they vote the same people in office,

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<v Speaker 2>they get the same results, and maybe it's time to

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<v Speaker 2>try something new. That's all. I'm not here to advocate

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<v Speaker 2>for any particular candidate whatsoever, but I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>someone's been in office and hasn't responded, you know, then

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe it's time for them to try another line

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<v Speaker 2>of work.

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<v Speaker 4>I couldn't agree with you more.

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<v Speaker 8>I think, in the words of I don't know if

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<v Speaker 8>you know who this is, famous wrestler Owen Hart. Enough

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<v Speaker 8>is enough, It's time for a change. That was his

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<v Speaker 8>motto going down to the ring.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I know who Owen Heart was. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>wrestling the only sports that's never been touched by any

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<v Speaker 8>that they couldn't come up with and I think it's funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>it's uh, just put them all on a plane like

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<v Speaker 8>the Santas. Didn't send them somewhere some somewhere else, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>you know, like they did in Marcus Vineyard. I mean,

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<v Speaker 8>who knows, nobody. You know, it's these people that are

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<v Speaker 8>in these positions that have the power to make a change.

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<v Speaker 8>They need to really step up to the plate and

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<v Speaker 8>a difference in the community and in society and a

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<v Speaker 8>positive direction. Not in this let's let everybody run around

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<v Speaker 8>and you know, do what they want and leave hypodermic

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<v Speaker 8>ginos and you know about the dogs down there, I

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<v Speaker 8>understand about the dogs. I mean that's a pretty decent idea,

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<v Speaker 8>but who knows the fetanol. I mean, one little thing

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<v Speaker 8>of fetanol can kill people instantly, So I mean that

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<v Speaker 8>would be putting kind of the German shepherds of the dogs,

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<v Speaker 8>the police dogs at risk. So I mean what is

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<v Speaker 8>the overall So, I mean that is what it comes

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<v Speaker 8>down to.

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<v Speaker 5>The call.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you if you allow the people who

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<v Speaker 2>are in the South End, who are not residents, who

427
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<v Speaker 2>are not paying taxes, who are not trying to do

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing, and you allow a group of miscreants,

429
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<v Speaker 2>people who are badly addicted uh to substances over which

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<v Speaker 2>they have no control, no ability to say no, and

431
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<v Speaker 2>you just do nothing and leave them there. That problem

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<v Speaker 2>is only going to grow, and it's like a cancer.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to spread to other parts of the city.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think for the mayor to ignore it uh

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<v Speaker 2>and put and to focus on more bike lanes. That

436
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<v Speaker 2>probably pleases a constituency a bike of bike riders, but

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<v Speaker 2>it does nothing for the people who have invested, you know,

438
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<v Speaker 2>their their families and their and their money and properties

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<v Speaker 2>in the South End. Tom. I appreciate your call. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish we had an answer, but we'll keep going. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>we'll find one.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay, all right, Dan, thanks a lot, Thanks, thank you,

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<v Speaker 8>thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Next, stay back in Boston, Mick and Alston. Mike,

445
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<v Speaker 2>you were next on Nightside with my guest Brian McCarter.

446
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<v Speaker 2>He's a resident of the South End. You have a

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<v Speaker 2>question or comment for him, Mick.

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<v Speaker 5>I have a couple of comments, Dan, and I'll welcome

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<v Speaker 5>Brian to your show to start off. I'm not a

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<v Speaker 5>fan of Michelle Wou. I think you're right, she's like.

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<v Speaker 4>Looking past this.

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<v Speaker 5>Marty Walsh and Tominino would have probably handled this a

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<v Speaker 5>lot better. The bike lanes in Alson Brightness, trangling all

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<v Speaker 5>the small businesses. She doesn't listen like west Roxbury.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

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<v Speaker 5>She just does what she wants. And as far as

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<v Speaker 5>mass Cast goes, I think since Long Island closed, that

458
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<v Speaker 5>became a big problem there. That's where all the buses

459
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<v Speaker 5>took you to Long Island, and that's where all the

460
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<v Speaker 5>acts just habtly go to.

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<v Speaker 2>My understanding by I'm not looking to defend Marty Walsher,

462
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<v Speaker 2>but my understanding was that the bridge too long, too

463
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<v Speaker 2>Long Island, and Brian, if I'm wrong here, please correct

464
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<v Speaker 2>me that that bridge was becoming unsafe.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the engineers from the state to declare it no

466
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<v Speaker 3>longer you know, fit for safety, so it had to

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<v Speaker 3>be shut down, torn down and redone.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, And I guess they don't have the money to

469
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<v Speaker 2>redo it. And I also guess that the mayor of Quinsy,

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<v Speaker 2>who's looking out for his constituents, doesn't want to allow

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<v Speaker 2>bus traffic to trans you know, it's you know, Long

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<v Speaker 2>Island is actually I think technically the City of Boston,

473
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<v Speaker 2>but the mayor of Quinsy doesn't want buses to go

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<v Speaker 2>be going through his neighborhoods to get there. As I

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<v Speaker 2>understand that, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, roughly they so they've been tying up. I think

477
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<v Speaker 3>it's the last or second to last permit in court currently.

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<v Speaker 3>So even if tomorrow the litigation you ended, estimates I've

479
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<v Speaker 3>heard from various politicians would take ten more years to

480
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<v Speaker 3>have the facility open and maybe even a billion dollars.

481
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<v Speaker 3>So at this point, it's it's kind of a pie

482
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<v Speaker 3>in the sky thinking that that's going to restart, which

483
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<v Speaker 3>you still have to do in the long term. Thinking

484
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<v Speaker 3>of Boston, you need to restart that facility, but we

485
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<v Speaker 3>need something now.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, we need we need something yesterday. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sorry, Mick, Brian Dan, what about the NBTA boats?

488
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<v Speaker 5>Why not setting the people out there.

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<v Speaker 3>On boats when people are overdosing? Uh, it's the time

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<v Speaker 3>to respond to the boat. Isn't saft enough to get

491
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<v Speaker 3>them to the emergency of them? That's the medical reason.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I mean, it would seem that I

493
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<v Speaker 2>don't know, it would seem that they could depopulate it somewhat, Brian,

494
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<v Speaker 2>if they could say to people, you know, put people,

495
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<v Speaker 2>let's say in a I don't know, you know, in

496
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<v Speaker 2>a in a in a facility for for a couple

497
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<v Speaker 2>of days, to make sure that they haven't taken anything.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Put them on the boat and get him out there.

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<v Speaker 2>But I guess you've still got to build a facility,

500
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<v Speaker 2>which I think you said could cost as much as

501
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<v Speaker 2>a billion dollars right.

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<v Speaker 3>To redo the whole bridge, and you know bridge is

503
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<v Speaker 3>two hundred and something million, and then all the furd

504
00:27:12.759 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 3>maintenance on the buildings. You know, easily it would end

505
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<v Speaker 3>with your typical Boston instruction costs skyrocket. It could be

506
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<v Speaker 3>it could end up being a billion dollars for that

507
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<v Speaker 3>Philly which is which is why collins plan to use

508
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<v Speaker 3>a retired cruise ship is like sixty million. Why don't

509
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<v Speaker 3>we just do that now until we can do with.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, yeah, I think I think that's a

511
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<v Speaker 2>good idea. That If that's Nick Collins's idea, I think

512
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<v Speaker 2>that's a that's a decent idea. Well, you know, Mick,

513
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<v Speaker 2>we've covered a lot here tonight. You know, how is

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<v Speaker 2>Alston doing with with drug abuse? Is that a huge

515
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<v Speaker 2>factor over there or no, you're on the other side

516
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<v Speaker 2>of the city.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, no, you know, it's everyweight Dan, but I don't

518
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<v Speaker 5>think it's as bad. It's it's definitely not as bad

519
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<v Speaker 5>as mass cast.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah no, but that massive leads the leg but.

521
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<v Speaker 5>It's everywhere, you know, throughout the stair. I guess numbers

522
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<v Speaker 5>of overdoses are going down now, but long overdue because

523
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<v Speaker 5>it's spending epidemic for over twenty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Well, I think the fentanyl is being cut off

525
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<v Speaker 2>now that the borders closed, and Trump's not getting enough

526
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<v Speaker 2>credit for that. I'll criticize Trump on a number of items,

527
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<v Speaker 2>but you've got to give them credit for closing that

528
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<v Speaker 2>border and cutting down Fentinel as well as hopefully child

529
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<v Speaker 2>trafficking and stuff like that make I appreciate you call

530
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<v Speaker 2>very much. I got to keep rolling here, Okay, all right, Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks man, thanks for calling in. Brian. I'm impressed with

532
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<v Speaker 2>the number of people who have waited tonight to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this issue. I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm glad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad it's getting the attention it deserves, and I'm

536
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<v Speaker 3>glad people have thoughts and want to share them. Keep

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<v Speaker 3>them coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, We've got more more calls lined up, Brian, Darryl,

539
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<v Speaker 2>and Lee. At least I guarantee all of you. I

540
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<v Speaker 2>got one line at six one, seven, two, five four

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<v Speaker 2>and one line at six one, seven, nine, ten thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>We will wrap it up at eleven. By eleven, I

543
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<v Speaker 2>promise we kept Brian. I haven't had a guest for

544
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<v Speaker 2>two hours, by the way, Brian, in a long time,

545
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<v Speaker 2>just so you know. Okay, So you've brought an important

546
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<v Speaker 2>story to our attention. We picked it up at a gala.

547
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<v Speaker 2>Carley's piece in the Boston Globe this morning, which I

548
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<v Speaker 2>thought was a compelling piece, well written. As always, She's

549
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<v Speaker 2>a great reporter, and I'm gratified that you've given us

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<v Speaker 2>this time tonight, and I hope the callers who are there,

551
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<v Speaker 2>stay and if we get a couple more, we'll finish strong.

552
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<v Speaker 2>Heading to the finish line here on Nightside. Back on Nightside,

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<v Speaker 2>right after these brief messages.

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<v Speaker 1>You're on night Side with Dan Ray. I'm Boston's News Radio.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, tomorrow night at eleven o'clock, I will

556
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<v Speaker 2>have with me a journalist, Scott Kerrman. Scott has just

557
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<v Speaker 2>written a very interesting book about the life of Michael Ducaccas.

558
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<v Speaker 2>The political career of Michael Ducaccas from the Massachusetts Governor,

559
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<v Speaker 2>the Duke Weekly Conversations with the last honest politician. I

560
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<v Speaker 2>kind of have been inclined to agree with him. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>did that to Warren? I let's keep rolling here. I

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<v Speaker 2>got Darryl in Canada, Daryl in New Brunswick. You've been

563
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<v Speaker 2>very patient. You're next on Nightside. Go ahead, Darryl.

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<v Speaker 9>Hey Dan, Brian, good effort, good conversation. I was just

565
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<v Speaker 9>letting Brian know that if he has a problem with

566
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<v Speaker 9>the urine smell in certain areas, you have a product

567
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<v Speaker 9>that actually might help out, because right next door, I

568
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<v Speaker 9>actually have one footage on my treaty camera is somebody

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<v Speaker 9>doing the exact same thing. You're talking about, And.

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<v Speaker 2>What's the solution other than probably getting your shotgun out

571
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<v Speaker 2>and scaring the hendle.

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<v Speaker 9>Nope, Nope, it's a it was actually a gal and

573
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<v Speaker 9>but it's a product that actually can actually get rid

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<v Speaker 9>of the smell. So, but the idea of.

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<v Speaker 2>The name of the product, Daryl, you got us in

576
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<v Speaker 2>suspense here, what's the name of the product?

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<v Speaker 9>You can actually give me a call later, or Brian

578
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<v Speaker 9>can give me called give him my number and I'll

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<v Speaker 9>let him know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think just give us the name, Daryl. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>let's let's wasting a little time here. Let's if you

582
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<v Speaker 2>got the name.

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<v Speaker 9>Break Actually I actually don't have the product in front

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<v Speaker 9>of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, good, Okay, Well, you know what, why don't you

586
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<v Speaker 2>send me an email and I'll get the information of Brian.

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<v Speaker 9>And I'm sure i'd like to let you know. Is

588
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<v Speaker 9>the idea about the people in the homeless situation and

589
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:39.319
<v Speaker 9>the addict situation is you guys are talking about sending

590
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<v Speaker 9>people elsewhere. So if you guys can actually talk to

591
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<v Speaker 9>different communities and whatnot across the country, maybe you can

592
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<v Speaker 9>actually put these people into a like a boot camp

593
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<v Speaker 9>style thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wish I had thought of that one, Darryl,

595
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<v Speaker 2>that that is a brilliant idea. Maybe we could get

596
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<v Speaker 2>some boot camps up in Canada and go cross border.

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<v Speaker 9>They know, I'm just trying to help out, because no, no,

598
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<v Speaker 9>I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think if they don't look some of us who

600
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<v Speaker 2>did boot camp, it's not pleasant, particularly if you have

601
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<v Speaker 2>nasty drill sergeants. Well that's the old thing.

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<v Speaker 9>Is a lot of a lot of people don't have

603
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<v Speaker 9>any hope in the future. And if you can actually

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<v Speaker 9>break that cycle and actually give them hope.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, Brian, Daryl Darrel, all good suggestions. Thank you,

606
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<v Speaker 2>my friend. We'll talk soon. Thank you very much. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me go from Darryl in New Brunswick to Brian and Chelms.

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<v Speaker 2>For Brian, You're next on Nightsacer. Right ahead.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, Dan's BC from North Chelm shirt.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, my man, BC. This is a friend of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Brian.

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<v Speaker 10>So that whole area down there, my first experience down there,

613
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<v Speaker 10>started playing baseball in the Yackey League in nineteen ninety

614
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<v Speaker 10>one and there was two fields down there there, and

615
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<v Speaker 10>that was a problem in nineteen ninety one, and I

616
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<v Speaker 10>stopped playing in that league in two thousand and every

617
00:33:04.599 --> 00:33:06.640
<v Speaker 10>year it was worse and worse. It was open air

618
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<v Speaker 10>drug markets, people taking drugs, openly, street walker prostitution. I

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<v Speaker 10>mean that this is a problem that's been going on

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<v Speaker 10>for you know, over thirty five years down there, and

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<v Speaker 10>there's been no mayre that has dealt with it other

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<v Speaker 10>than lip service. And now here you are in twenty

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<v Speaker 10>twenty five and it's you know, it is just the

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<v Speaker 10>last time I was down in that area was probably

625
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<v Speaker 10>about two years ago and unrecognizable. It's just I feel

626
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<v Speaker 10>for those residents down there. I was involved in baseball

627
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<v Speaker 10>in the South End for years and it's just horrible

628
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<v Speaker 10>it's been thrust upon those people, and it's it's lip

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<v Speaker 10>service from politicians and the residents there that are trying

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<v Speaker 10>to live their lives are you know, it's it's sad.

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<v Speaker 10>And someone mentioned Lowell. I'm in chums are right next

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<v Speaker 10>to Lowell. Lowell's got their problems with that too. It's

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<v Speaker 10>not you know, it's not a walk in.

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<v Speaker 4>The park there.

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<v Speaker 10>There's a couple of methadone clinics down here, the new

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<v Speaker 10>courthouse down there, and you know it is, it's a

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<v Speaker 10>problem there too. I got friends that work in the

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<v Speaker 10>shelters down there, and they're dealing with that on a

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<v Speaker 10>daily basis there. So I don't know what the answers are,

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<v Speaker 10>but it was a problem in nineteen ninety one and

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<v Speaker 10>it's gotten nothing but worse because there's been a refusal

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<v Speaker 10>in Massachusetts to deal with the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, on BC, I kind of agree with your analysis,

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<v Speaker 2>but we've dealt with it tonight, and hopefully we've raised

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<v Speaker 2>the issue for some of these politicians and maybe some

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<v Speaker 2>some younger politicians. We'll have some answers that the older

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<v Speaker 2>politicians have not provided. BC. I got to get till

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<v Speaker 2>more in here if I can. Okay, Thanks Bryan.

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<v Speaker 10>Good luck to you, brother, Good luck, Thanks Dan, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Brian, Thank you very much. Let's keep rolling here.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna get Lee in Boston again, get at least

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<v Speaker 2>one more in Lee. You got to be quick for me,

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<v Speaker 2>if you could go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 7>Lead, yes, really quick. So the last Carl I hit

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<v Speaker 7>it on the nail on the head there and I

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<v Speaker 7>pretty much everything I was gonna say, But I just

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<v Speaker 7>want to say one thing. You know, there's some activists

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<v Speaker 7>and uh, I'm in I'm in Dorchester. So some activists

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<v Speaker 7>has been working on this issue for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 7>One of it is actually a candidate. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 7>get too much into that, but as a candidate running now.

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<v Speaker 7>His name is the MGAs and Rosa. He's been working on.

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<v Speaker 2>I've had Jamgas on this program. He was a football

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<v Speaker 2>coach there and he had needles in Clifford Park if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not mistaken, and he did get some action from.

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<v Speaker 7>The city, right, So we need, you know, more people

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<v Speaker 7>like that in office to actually, you know, uh solidify

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<v Speaker 7>this issue. It's not going to be an overnight thing.

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<v Speaker 7>We all know that. And one more thing is that

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<v Speaker 7>you know the current administration they're definitely not looking to

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<v Speaker 7>uh fix this issue, and it seems like it's just

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<v Speaker 7>walking over it and just putting more bike lanes. As

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<v Speaker 7>we do know that is what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bike bike lanes and soccer teams. That's that's the

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<v Speaker 2>dark teams.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh that's a whole nother Oh go, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, I knew, I know that would get a rise

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<v Speaker 2>out of you. Hey, look, I appreciate you taking the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you get involved. Thank you much. Last of the

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<v Speaker 2>on this hour, Dot I got about a minute for

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<v Speaker 2>your dot. You medte no well.

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<v Speaker 11>You know, I've been out on that bridge. I had

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<v Speaker 11>to go out to Long Island one day to pick

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<v Speaker 11>up one of my sons and I went in that building.

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<v Speaker 11>This was it around ninety This is thirty years ago,

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<v Speaker 11>thirty more, and I went out there to pick him up.

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<v Speaker 11>That place was a disaster. I mean they'd have to

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<v Speaker 11>tear it down and build a new place.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>Horrible, And I can't imagine what. No, And you know,

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<v Speaker 11>you can't blame the mayor and Quincy. He doesn't want

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<v Speaker 11>all that traffic going over there a new bridge.

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<v Speaker 4>It's true.

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<v Speaker 2>He's defending his own community, his constituents.

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<v Speaker 11>Tom Koch, absolutely I agree with that's right, and I

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<v Speaker 11>agree with him totally. It's a but boy, that mayor.

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<v Speaker 11>All she talks about is how beautiful her city is.

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<v Speaker 11>It's her city, you know, she her city metaphorically at least.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>But anyway, I'll tell you, frankly, that log Island is

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<v Speaker 11>not the answer because they'd have to pour millions and

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<v Speaker 11>millions into it.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, we got you. I just got to wrap

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<v Speaker 2>up here with Brian dot Great to hear your voice.

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<v Speaker 2>You sound strong. Talk soon, Okay, Thank you, dear, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you, Brian McCarter, thank you for spending two hours

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<v Speaker 2>with us tonight. I hope it's an investment in which

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<v Speaker 2>some of the politicians will get involved in UH and

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<v Speaker 2>do something for you. I hope that it can rattle

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<v Speaker 2>the police department at the leadership and the police department

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<v Speaker 2>at the leadership at city Hall. It's as simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>Give you a final word, Brian. Anything you'd like to say,

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<v Speaker 2>go right ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, appreciate having me on and all your callers and

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<v Speaker 3>some suggestions. And I hope the mayor take leadership on

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<v Speaker 3>this and tries to actually address the issue.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we can always hope, we can always hope. I

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<v Speaker 2>hope there are some people who are maybe running for office.

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<v Speaker 2>Who have you talked to Josh Kraft? Has he has

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<v Speaker 2>he at least lent you an ear?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, they've reached out.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I just whoever solves the problem, it's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, that's what they're supposed to do. They're supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>solve problems, not just preeing for the cameras. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>so much, Brian. Please keep in touch and if I

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<v Speaker 2>can be of any help, stay there. I want Rob

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<v Speaker 2>to give you my direct line so that you can

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<v Speaker 2>always reach me and if I can be of any

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<v Speaker 2>help to you on this issue, please let me know.

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<v Speaker 2>You've been very kind for your time Tonight, We'll have

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<v Speaker 2>you back, Brian, stay there. Rob will give you my

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<v Speaker 2>direct line. Will we come back. Let's talk about what's

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<v Speaker 2>going on in Los Angeles. A lot of activity out

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<v Speaker 2>there tonight, monitoring it for you, and we will talk

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<v Speaker 2>about it. Who's to blame. There's a variety of viewpoints

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<v Speaker 2>back on Nightside after this