Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around
the world every month. Most of them can be explained
as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,
abductions and remote viewing, Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the
Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high, and
voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are
revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files. So
in the rest of the game one one Switchy club
Susan Kay and Uncle Leo Brandy X an Agent X
as they delve into the ultimate mysteries of time and space.
This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files.
Speaker 2: And now here's.
Speaker 3: Mac.
Speaker 2: Well. Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Macloney's Military Sauce
Show here in the Distant thunder Or Radio Network broadcasting
live from the Stobby Galley Restaurant, fifty five Water Street,
newbe put masks trying to hit all the marks. They
have them off a little bit. We've quite a shoe
for you tonight. But first let me introduce you to
the members of the Plassem that I mentioned that the
Stabby Guy is a great seafood restaurant, Great Hamburger is
great steak and cheese Sammy. And what's one one favorite?
Oh the French engion soup is and the onion rings
with incredible Anyway, Okay, once again we have quite a
show for you tonight. But let me introduce you to
the members of the Posse Girls. Sorry, sorry, no one
one tonight. There we go. I can hear them clicking
off already. We just lost half hour listener ship. He
is on a secret mission, but he will be back
next week. Filling in in his seat reluctantly is producer, Engineer,
get away driver be Killer Uncle Ane. The kiddies found
hy Mac.
Speaker 4: Hello everybody, what's uh? What's happening? Folks? What's going on?
Speaker 2: You should know?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm just trying to keep out of it,
the best thing for me.
Speaker 2: Not doing too good of a job of it tonight,
did man? So?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: How are the bees?
Speaker 4: What's going on? Bees are fine? I mean I walked
by the hive the other day and when the wind
just shifts the right way, you can smell that they
got into the golden rod. Because golden rod's blooming right now.
So when bees get When honey bees get in the
golden rod, they bring the pollen back to the hive
and they're doing their thing and it smells bad bad.
It smells like dirty socks. So you walk by the
hive and go, man, that stinks. What's wrong in there?
And it's really nothing. Once it cures, it's fine, but
in the interim stages it smells bad.
Speaker 2: So, as we all know, Al's bees produce the best
honey ever, I'm not kidding. And how many bees do
you have an how in the hive would you say?
Speaker 4: I'd say each hive's probably got thirty thousand. Really, Okay,
they're coming down. They're actually scaling back now because it's
getting colder, right, and they're killing all the males and
throwing them out because the males are useless weight on
the dragstrip. They don't do anything. So they're big and
they're clumsy and they don't do anything, so they get
thrown out and they start to death and.
Speaker 2: Oops oops oops yeah, okay, okay, this is the life
of a mail little peek into b world also with
us down there, and uh well it's a senior corresponded
down there, and my sister's tank Top, West Virginia. Switch Blade,
Steve Ward, Switchy, turn on your microphone. They're doing. Oh,
don't tell We're going to go through this again. One, two, three, Switchy,
How you doing?
Speaker 5: I can hear him.
Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.
Speaker 6: Oh boy, there you go.
Speaker 2: Hey, Switch, how you doing?
Speaker 6: I'm doing good? But I think Brandy just vanished mysteriously.
Speaker 2: Again she's back as mysteriously as she vanished. She's back.
Speaker 6: It wouldn't be right if we didn't have technical difficulties.
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you switch for talking behind our backs. No,
but Switch, how are you? How you doing this?
Speaker 6: Would she I'm tired?
Speaker 2: Are you really tired of what? Yeah? I'm really everything.
Speaker 6: No, of climbing ladders and you know, work working okay,
and the dreadic T and T area where the Mothman
was seen.
Speaker 2: So anyway, this weekend is the Mothman Festival down in
my sister's tank top, West Virginia. They're spending twenty thousand
people in switches, like the special effects guy. Right, Well, I'm.
Speaker 6: One of them. I'm one of the people that does
contributes to the uh the hay ride and we have
Saturday to night. I put up a bunch of giant
spiders and light up their eyes and cobble together creatures
and put up spider webs and that kind of thing.
John and Tim Frick they rig the Mothman. You guarantee
flyover of the Mothman due to their efforts. And then
we also have the men in black show up, okay
with their bullhorns to try to turn you away. And uh,
there's a few surprises here and there. It's a little
bit like a Halloween hay ride. But the area it's
the Mclintic Wildlife Area Now it's where they used to
make explosives or World War two back in the forties.
And by the sixties when they started seeing this thing
out there, a lot of the buildings had been dismantled,
so it's always been kind of a creepy area. It's
perfect setting for you know, a monster movie, a you know,
a murder mystery or whatever.
Speaker 2: So do you have a defibrilator in case anyone just
goes nuts? No, for insurance jilts insurance reasons.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: We we just hope for the best. And uh if
I tell people when I when I do the tours,
I say listen, uh make you know, check the guy
that's that's sitting next to you, and make sure they're
they're there when you get back. If not, we uh
it would within a couple of weeks, we have them
fill out a form in triplicate and if ninety days
pass and we don't see anybody, we start looking.
Speaker 2: For then you start okay, all right, well that's quite
a policy.
Speaker 6: That's you didn't want to go off knew jerk, you know, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, all they had was jerk. So thanks Switch
for joining us tonight. So coming up, we are you know,
top ten questions about Mothman for Switch?
Speaker 6: Okay, we don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want to embarrass you. Will you be embarrassed
if you don't get any of them? Right?
Speaker 6: No, As I told you in an email earlier, not
an email, a text ahead that if I don't know
the answer, I'm just going to make it up.
Speaker 2: But the multiple choice though, okay, okay, best class.
Speaker 6: If I don't know the answer, I'll have I'll defer
to club and an answer.
Speaker 2: Okay, just one more thing about your glasses? What do
you get the now you get the Carol Channing glasses
they get down.
Speaker 6: These are the the Amazon specials.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, also with US is our senior international man
about the world, world renowned security chief Willy Club will he.
Speaker 8: Hey, Marc. Everyone, great to be here tonight, Yes, yes,
good to see you. Feeling it's going to be, you know,
pretty exciting show. Particularly I see we get some guests. Yes,
we don't have to stare at the same people all
the time.
Speaker 2: So okay, all right. I had a question for.
Speaker 8: Ahead rumored out there, is that you're the guy that's
going to be walking around in the Mothman costume you
over the weekend switch switching.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hope not.
Speaker 6: Well if this is not a Mothman costume, this is
a a Mothman replica replica that that flies down a wire.
Eies are lit up by battery power and they blast
a sound effect to uh for his cry.
Speaker 2: Should have some EMTs on site there, man.
Speaker 8: Jeez, I wish I could be there. I'm pretty excited.
But you can now got the Patriots this weekend.
Speaker 2: I don't know, ye bring a radio first things for us.
Speaker 9: Do they have the mini golf there.
Speaker 6: The Mofmaan mini golf? Yeah, yeah, they have the we
have the Mockman black like mini golf. I don't think
it's going to be uh manned during the festival. They're
going to need all hands on handling fifteen to twenty
thousand people floating through the weekend.
Speaker 2: Wow, okay, so this is your big weekend switching. Good luck.
Speaker 6: Thanks, I'll be uh doing the MC duties and speaking
at the at the last speaking slot on Sunday when
everybody is driving home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know that. Also with us tonight as
our super fan down there in North Carolina, Susan Kay,
the blonde with the clovette, How are you, honey, I'm good.
Speaker 5: I missed you.
Speaker 2: Everybody great, yep, yep, everything good. You send us a
picture today? You writing what's his name? Tony? Okay, yeah, yeah,
look good? Yeah, yeah, look good. Okay. Your cat free tonight,
which is also a plus, I mean.
Speaker 5: Your voice. I'm sure she'll be around.
Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining.
Speaker 5: Us, Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Also with us up there in Prinkle Land up there
in Wisconsin, Brandy K Brandy, how are you hi?
Speaker 7: Everybody, I'm excited to be here. Good to see everybody.
Speaker 2: We have to comment on this. Look, luckily one one
isn't here because he you know, it's unsuitable but you
look very glamorous tonight. Is that the word?
Speaker 7: Okay, I'll take it, okay, all right, okay, Well, I
last week you played some super groovy like disco music
and I felt totally unprepared. So I wanted to like
glam it up for disco just in case you played
that music.
Speaker 2: This time, well, asking you shall we see you here
we go?
Speaker 6: You know that's funny. I decided to glam it up too.
Speaker 2: Hey we can tell Yeah, oh boy, I'm so glad
we found that, Brady, Thanks for joining us. Thank you.
So we have two guests in the studio here at
the Stop and Galli. Our good friend Martin Willis is here.
Martin is the the hancho for podcast UFO, right, I
haven't right right, We're going to clap for him because
well he'll be the kind of guy who would powder.
Speaker 3: You don't exactly you got.
Speaker 2: It awesome with him? Is his good friend jack Jackie,
you like the engineer of the podcast? Is that right?
Speaker 10: Just help him out with the odds and ends.
Speaker 2: That means he's not paying you, right, right, So thank
you guys for joining us live on the kind of
at the Stop of Galley. So Martin just so you
would tell mysafia, how long have you been doing your
podcast now?
Speaker 3: Well, since November twenty eleven.
Speaker 2: Wow? Really was that it's fourteen years?
Speaker 3: Fourteen years coming up? And you were I think guests
four or five really?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Wow? Okay, so that's a long time to
be doing the one thing, right, But you always have
really good guests, that's the thing. In fact, we've poached
guests from you before you have, but you you really
got the the echelon of the UFO world on your show.
Speaker 3: Well you got to do his ask That's how how
you get them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, okay, Yeah, who's on? Who's your who is
who's some of your notable recent guests?
Speaker 3: Well, you know I have something. I have Bill Chalker
on tonight and you may not know the name, but
he's like an icon in Australia. He's coming up. He's
a long long time researcher all the way back I
think to this sixties or seventies. And yeah, I mean
he's he's been in, you know, on TV a lot,
but I mean he's written a lot of books and
so I'm excited about him. But you know, I've had
a number of people on and it's not always to me.
I like really interesting people and interesting stories and things
like that. It doesn't have to be you know, like
Chris Mellan. I was the first person to interview him,
and you know, Ralph Bluman Fall I was the first
person to interview him that type of thing. So I've
had a lot of luck in that type of way,
but I've never been able to get David rush on,
which I've wanted to get on. But David Grush and
he was the one that first testified in Washington, d C.
At the UAP hearing down there. Okay, intelligence whistleblower that.
Speaker 2: You know those things are fraud now we should talk
about I mean they really are. That they don't lead
to anything, you know, it's.
Speaker 3: Kind of disappointing. Well, I got to tell you the
one that just happened on September ninth. There was a
great testimony, amazing testimony.
Speaker 2: And who was there? I was that guy, the guy
from the Las Vegas TV.
Speaker 3: Yeah, George and Apple was there. And you know, I
kind of had an attitude about Georgia and app being there,
but he really he really did a great job. He
put things in perspective and brought things back.
Speaker 2: But what is he going to do?
Speaker 3: Well, he's he's been looking as an investigative journalist for
a long long time. So I don't agree with him
when it comes to Bob Blazaar, I'm not, you know.
But but other things he's done, you know, it's pretty.
Speaker 2: Good, don't. You have to be pure, one percent pure
to be believable. Though, because the whole Bob was acting,
we should get we can get into it. But yeah,
obviously the with something screwy going on there, and you
know whether he was in on it or just got hoodwinked.
But you know what Bob Lazad does these days.
Speaker 3: He's too smart to be hoodwinked.
Speaker 2: You know what Bob Lazad does these days.
Speaker 3: Yes, the scientific stuff he sells there.
Speaker 2: It's the Pentagon. Okay, he has that clearance. You know.
Sometimes you go buy machine shops and they'll say we
have this number. One one would know it, you know,
and which means we can deal with the Defense Department.
We've got security clearances. He runs a company that sells
pots to the Pentagon. Now, if he was who he
said supposed to be, why would he be dealing with
the Pentagon.
Speaker 3: It would never There's many things that would never happen.
I have my own personal idea about him. I do
believe because I've done a lot of research, and it's
on my website too. It's called muddying thee UFO waters
Boblazar something like that.
Speaker 2: Dot com.
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's under a podcast UFO dot com.
Find the blog there.
Speaker 2: We should just don't really, let's just tell people who
Bob Blusaur is real quick.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: So back in the early eighties, bible Zak came out
and gave interviews to people in the press, mostly George Naples,
like his guy, and he was the first guy to
say that there was something UFO related going on at
Area fifty one. Before that, some people had heard of it,
but all of a sudden, Erea fifty one is now
the most popular secret base there is in the world.
And it went on for about a couple of years.
He gave a lot of interviews and one of the
things he said was that that the US government had
crashed UFOs. That was his big thing. But what he
said was we talked about this just a couple of
weeks ago. I don't want bore anyone, but what he
said was they weren't at Erea fifty one. They were
at this other place called Test two right s too,
Papoose Mountain, right. So that was the story, and it
went everywhere. And now all of a sudden people saying, well,
this secret base, which what they really do there is
test pop secret airplanes. And they and at the time
they had stolen or proloined Russian and Chinese MiGs and
stuff that they used to fly there just to see
what the you know, what the mechanics of your enemy is, right.
But the story behind it is is that the people
who were testing these airplanes at ere fifty one they
knew when Russian satellites were going over, because they would
you could you knew when they were going over because
they're on a timetable, you know. And what they didn't
want is to have to take the secret plane, put
it in the hangar, you know, at one thirty every Thursday,
and then washed down the runway to get rid of
the heat signature, wait for the FN thing to go over,
and then just slap it all back out again. So
they said, why don't we misdirect them? So Bob Lasa's
story comes out, and sure enough, the Russian satellite start
going over s two and not over the area fifty
one as frequently, So these guys didn't have to, you know,
do that much manual labor anymore. And I mean that's okay, interesting,
all right, Well think about that, and then the fact
that he now works for a company that sells postle
depending on I mean, yeah, it's not even a dotted lawn,
it's that's straight line.
Speaker 3: I really personally think that he has taken on a
persona of someone that he knew that had some inside information, because,
like you said, when you something's a little fishy. For instance,
his education totally proven wrong. He never went to m
I T Or cal Tech, right, He was in the
you know, in the bottom lower half of his high
school and he would never even qualified to get into
any of those.
Speaker 2: So why do he work there?
Speaker 3: I don't think he did.
Speaker 2: I think I think he worked there. I think he was.
So I mean, could they in all the interviews that
they went through, they could he have really not worked there?
Speaker 3: Yes, he could have take taken on information from them.
So well, then confront of GEORGI nap on this, I
have it. I have screenshots of our conversations and things
like that, and Jeremy Corbell as well. Uh, you know,
he just Georgia Napp just says, well, I've said many
times the reason I've come up with the things that
I've come up with, and you can make your own decision.
He just was, you know, kind of cavalry.
Speaker 2: But that still even makes it even more my sterious
why he now be running a company that deals with
depending on you know, if he was a fake or not.
It's just an odd business fotnership, it is.
Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, he's there's some a lot
of weird things that happened in Bob Lasar's life. Yeah,
I have, you know, his wife dying mysteriously, and you know,
you know, all these different things and all the raids
and things like that.
Speaker 2: I just think he was an actor and I think
he was an actor for somebody. And listen, it's a
big deal. They could get Russian satellites not to go
over like five times, have them going over three times.
That's a big deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's the first I've heard of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that's really what happened.
Speaker 8: Anyway, Martin. Can I ask a question to Martin? Yeah,
the other day I watched that testimony on c SPAN
the Congressional Yes, And I had to shut it off
because after a while they had some of these pilots
who were testifying, and I could have sworn this guy
was going to have a breakdown right on the on
the air. He was so upset. I've never seen anyone
so upset by that. Did you get that feeling from
But to watch him on TV you could see it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very emotional.
Speaker 3: I understand that. I mean I've talked to people that
have been very emotional about their experiences, and one was
a military person that you know, one was a military
person and it was he can't even talk about he's
only been interviewed a couple of times since two thousand.
Speaker 8: But I was really taken back. I mean, here's an
ex pilot who've probably seen everything, how affected he was,
and I think that goes I think it goes back
to years ago that he's relating to. But I just
I couldn't get over that, the way he was reacting
when he was speaking about that.
Speaker 2: But what is really going on here now? Now? Again?
We should do some you know, shoe leather hair. In
twenty eighteen or so, they created this new committee to
really look into UFOs. They changed UFO c UAPs or
whatever it was, and they promised, they had a lot
of promises that we're going to do this, We're going
to do that, We're going to report every three months.
And everyone got excited. And then the tic tac videos
kind of came out at the same time, and I
remember thinking, wow, this might be something else. And for
the first time, the military of the up and said
we don't know what they are. That was a big,
big admission for them, right, I said, maybe this who knows,
And you know who was in the White House at
the time. I thought, he's the guy who wants to
announce I was the president when UFOs were found out
what they were, you know, So everything kind of came
together and then it went away. Then they changed the
name and it got really you know, lax, and they
didn't do every three months, and you know, you know,
and it was just kind of drifted away, you know,
and they got everyone excited, and then nothing happened except
as club always puttings out. They gave them money. They
gave him like thirty million dollars or something like that.
They probably blew through that, but nothing has come out
since other than them saying we don't know what these
things done. That's a big admission for them, but really
nothing else, right, you know more about this than us?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's your opinion on that? Check? I
mean you've been following this too, I.
Speaker 10: Mean yeah, I just think it's a little bit of
a jaded view. But like the House always wins that.
I see, like they have all the secrets. They're going
to throw us a bone here or there, but then
there's going to be nine other things that are lies
to go along with whatever that truth is, and we're
never really going to.
Speaker 2: Know why throw us the bone?
Speaker 10: That's what I'm thinking, the narrative, that's all. But what
that narrative is, I have no idea.
Speaker 2: But the narrative we don't know what they are. That
that I think that would panic more people than anything else.
Speaker 8: And they were looking for funding. Excuse me, I think
they're looking for money.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Did you guys see that video of this short like
a last week, of that missile that hit something and.
Speaker 2: Bounced bounced off. See that's another thing too. What was
that all about? First of all, you really want to
be shooting at these things? That's a I think that's
a big mistake.
Speaker 3: That was probably a balloon. I hate to say that.
Speaker 2: Uh. And the health I am missile bounces off the bat.
Speaker 3: It doesn't bounce off. It didn't fuse. It didn't the
bomb did not fuse. It just it could have been
an exercise of some type.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: The thing of it is is it shows up at
Burlison's office and he didn't vet it. He just showed it.
Glison's senator, Republican senator that's taken an interest on this.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so anyway, they just put it out of steak.
They just put it out there. It's ridiculous, it's foolish. Yeah,
but there's a reason they just slip it to them
right at the last minute. Oh yeah, so they would
do that. I mean it did look spectacular at first,
but people really took a really good look at it
and they realized it had to be like a training actually,
like a practice.
Speaker 2: Years ago, like in the fifties, Truman actually ordered all
military pilots to shoot at these things. The order was,
try to contact them, you know, if you have their frequency.
If you don't hear back, shoot at them, shoot them down,
Shoot them down, and that was not you know, I mean,
you'd want to be shooting at these things seriously, and
but yeah, so I'm glad to actually hear that they
hear that it was it was just kind of not
a shooting of something that we don't know about, because
if they shoot back, we could be screwed, right.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, well here we are well so educated. It
is more what what don't we know? Modern what don't
we know?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, like you said earlier, you know,
they come out and they say, well, we don't know
what they are. I mean that that was a step,
But as far as what they are, it's still as
much of a mystery as it was when I first
started looking at it, maybe even you know, I mean,
you may learn to ask a few more questions than
normal when you don't look into this, but it's still
such a puzzle, and it's really to me, it's one
of the biggest mysteries to solve. Yeah, absolutely, And I
don't know why more people aren't interested in finding out
what the heck's going on.
Speaker 2: So that's the That's the weirdest thing to me, is
that First of all, like in the last decade, like
five of the top ten movies are about aliens or
UFO something. Okay, some of the biggest movies that Independence
Day for instance, you know, one of the biggest movies ever,
you know, War of the World. People are into this stuff,
they are. But we go back to this that committee
in the in the fifties who the CIA got in.
And basically what happened was when people would see UFO,
when people saw a lot of the UFOs over of Washington,
d C. That big flap, people picked up their phones
and called the White House and called the Pentagon and
jammed up the phone line, right okay, And the CIA said,
we can't do this. So what we got to do
is we have to put the word out there. The narrative,
as Jack said, that anyone who sees the UFO is nuts.
You know, there's something. It's the it's the cuckoo fact.
And it works so well even to this day. Yes,
you know, people say, oh he's great, Yes you if
we must be drunk or whatever, you know, I mean,
that's the works. Okay. But the thing is is that
when you see videos like the tic TAC videos, to me,
they're not little Green men from Miles. But man, there's
something going on there. There's something that we don't know
about unless you have another you have another explanation that
I do.
Speaker 3: You agree, I totally agree. I mean it's, you know,
to defy what we normally would consider physics, physics or something.
And you know, I mean we'd be jello in any
type of G you know, G force, right, those.
Speaker 2: Things, Yeah, doing stuff ironocically impossible, pulling under the water
and coming out. And this is something not operating in
our five whatever it is. You know, this is operating
somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Can you hear over and over again about these things
taking off super sonic speed not even displacing the air
or no sonic.
Speaker 2: Boom yeah yeah, no sonic boom yeap.
Speaker 3: Just crazy stuff.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the kind of going right now.
Speaker 3: Let's say someone sexing you there. I think I'm seeing that.
I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Yes, the answer is yes, that would be.
Speaker 9: Question yes or comment. So back when you were talking
about the shoot first, ask question later thing about so,
it made me think of any like good UFO or
alien movie that I've watched. Yes, we always seem to
shoot first and ask questions later, which turns.
Speaker 5: Out badly for us.
Speaker 9: So why would that happen in real life?
Speaker 2: You kid? And always every movie it turns out badly, right, and.
Speaker 9: It's always you know, someone's trying to make contact or
in your ear engrossed in the movie and there's some
dumb ass that's you know, shoot him out of the sky,
and then that turns badly for us. So I just
really think that would happen in real life.
Speaker 2: In the Nancy to the question, yes, Mac would be like
to meet Jack two times, and then Al's going to
meet his friend Bud one time. You guys don't want
anything to drink? You guys even softer nothing? Oh nothing,
club soda club? So two club sodas? Please?
Speaker 3: Are we actually having the Hurst served them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It goes from here to North Carolina to a phone.
Speaker 3: Over there and they bring amazing Wow.
Speaker 2: Uh so is the Comden Committee way back in the
fifties that's the name of it. Where they came and
they said let's.
Speaker 3: Make Oh that was in the nineteenth that was nineteen
seventy Comden Committee. Yeah, what you're thinking of? God, I
just lost.
Speaker 2: What's the name is Switchy? You must know that in
the fifties.
Speaker 3: Begins with the b nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 6: Well there was a sign and Grudge.
Speaker 3: No, but there was a committee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all. It was the first time the CIA
got involved because of the literally the phone, the jammed
up phone lines, so the Pentagon the and be seen
that they figure off the Russians and somehow pull that off.
You know, we'd be kind of helpless in a way.
Speaker 3: Mountains the Robertson panel, Robinson panel nineteen fifty three, and
that was just scared to call everyone ant tenfold hatters
and yep, just you're crazy if you're seeing a UFO.
It was very effective.
Speaker 2: You odd thing about that is that at the same time,
and this is in the book, is it? I guess
UFO is in watime unsealed everywhere in the Korean War.
The Korean War was really kind of a training point
in the UFO history, though people don't really think about it,
because of the first time there are people on the
ground with radar. There are people on a ship of radar,
but airplanes have radar too, so if they see something
the other people see it at the same time, then
something's there. Right. So the with Project Grudge at the
end of Project Grudge. First of all, the first conclusion
was they're not from here. The second conclusion was everyone
is either them or either just you know not or
you know whatever, you know, or they're having head problems
or whatever. So then the press would say, well, listen,
now people are seeing UFOs over Korea. Are you seeing
all your pilots religious nuts having delusions and stuff? And
they were like, you know, and that's really the beginning
of the Blue Book in a way, which there, you know,
business model was we get, you know, a thousand reports
a month, let's solve the ones we know that's venus,
that's you know, you know, and then just the others
let go away. And yeah, so that was the Robinson pans.
So what was the Condom Committee? Then that was not
Condom Condom that.
Speaker 3: Was nineteen seventy, well, nineteen sixty eight, nineteen seventy and
that basically was their reasoning for closing Project blue Book.
Oh okay, so basically nothing to see here. Yeah yeah,
but there was some that they did they showed that
were unexplainable.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: And one of them the Coral case, I believe.
Speaker 2: Yeah big time. Yeah, yeah, yep, which was a a
cop in New.
Speaker 3: Mexico nineteen sixty six. I think it was just.
Speaker 2: Came upon this thing. He's out in the middle of it,
does it. And he sees this like thing.
Speaker 3: Land and egg shape eggs and.
Speaker 2: Just completely not of this world. He saw people walking around,
he saw a little kind of a sign, kind of
like an emblem on it. He saw all this stuff.
And when they left, they went down and they found, like,
you know, the footprints of this thing. That's something obviously
happened here.
Speaker 3: Some burn brush say day yep. So yeah, I have
to tell you a little update on that.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: Ray Stanford he did the first investigation on that. He
was there two weeks after it happened, thank you and okay,
and he was taking pictures and he took a picture
of like he had like there was a kid around,
and he said, hey, stand over by the the dynamite, chack.
I want to get the perspective and take a picture
of it. So I'm down visiting him down to Maryland,
I don't know, maybe six years ago, and he showed
me different things UFO pictures that he's taken and longtime
researcher Ray Stanford, and so all of a sudden he
shows me this picture of the dynamite jack with his
kid in front of it, and clear as a bell,
you can see this egg shaped thing with three legs
coming down a little. Can you see a faint symbol
on the side, And I go, holy, yeah, said, this
is this is it?
Speaker 2: Right here?
Speaker 3: This is you know? Anyway, I was flipping out about that.
So then I had Ray on my show, I don't know,
maybe a year later, and I brought that up and
he said, oh, that was just something an artifact on the.
Speaker 2: Negative, really yeah, and it just happened to look like that, And.
Speaker 3: I said he threw me under the bus basically because
he just did not want it to get out there.
So that's what it was. He was afraid people would
come to his house while he passed away. And now
the picture is resurfaced and there's people looking at it,
serious people looking at it. And I don't think it
was an art There's no way it was an artifact.
The only thing it could have been is something that
he faked, because there was a perfect shaped egg craft
in the air, and then it was a faint one
in the distance as well.
Speaker 2: So what year did this happen.
Speaker 3: Now, nineteen sixty six, I believe.
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is before we landed on the moon,
because some people said, well, what this really was was
a test of the lunar lander.
Speaker 3: Okay, And there's no way that was, No way it.
Speaker 2: Was because first of all, NASA, like there's pictures of
the Luna land of being Neil Armstrong almost getting killed.
He had a like jet from me. Yep, So it's
not that all right. But if people did go now
and they found that in the four footprints of this thing,
it was there, it landed, and it took off whatever
it was it did, and they found like they think,
like radioactive stuff going on in the footprints. It burnt,
it burnt the brush around it. So something was there,
no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: And Lonnie Zamora was a solid.
Speaker 2: Guy, solid guy. Yeah, yep, just a matter of.
Speaker 3: Fact, his life would have been so much better if
that didn't.
Speaker 2: Happen, if he didn't yeah he said that, Yeah, yep,
for sure. Wow.
Speaker 6: And Matt, can I ask you Martin a question?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Martin. What I heard was that they that symbol
that originally came up with they got together and they
made it up because they and they kept quiet the
actual symbol they saw.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's correct, that's correct, And I actually have a
hat that has a correct symbol of what is the
correct symbol. It's an A with three lines down like that.
Speaker 6: It's they just didn't want they figured, you know, people,
they didn't want any copy of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's a three minds across horizontally. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the original one. But basically what they
did is they had Lonnie. Uh. They changed the drawing
in case anyone came forward and saw that symbol and
oh yeah I saw that symbol or whatever. Yeah, yeah,
you know, usually effective to do that.
Speaker 2: You're right, that's an incredibly solid case of something happening that.
Speaker 3: It's what turned Jay and Heinech to say, there's really
something to this.
Speaker 2: So he was there's another name name dropping. He was
the guy who the US government's a He is a
doctor at Northwestern University astronomer okay, and the US government
hired him for a Project blue Book, which from the
early fifties to sixty seven was the the US military
quote unquote looking into UFOs. But they bring this guy
in to give them some credibility, and he starts going
out on these you know, looking into these things, and
he says, wait a minute, you know there's something there.
Speaker 3: You know, it took a long time before he turned,
but but and then.
Speaker 2: And then, but then he didn't. He said, you know,
we don't know what it is. Don't believe all these
crazy stories. But there's definitely something there. We don't know
what it is. And here we are today, fifty years
later saying the same.
Speaker 3: Thing, right exactly. Yeah, So what is it there?
Speaker 2: Martin? You should know? And first of all, are they
not from another planet?
Speaker 3: They can't be, you know, I mean, I like shock
VALA's description. You know, maybe some of a lot of
different things. Okay, yeah, what people might be seeing. It
could be something extra trestl they know how it figured
out something in physics that we have no idea, you know,
how to travel.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 3: It could be time travelers. That one's kind of way
out there. But it could be interdimensional. I try to
think there's a lot of them that it's kind of
fits when you talk about interdimensional.
Speaker 2: I agree.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so in that I remember Paulino were used to
say that they're all connected. The ghosts and Bigfoot and
UFOs were all into dimensional that's.
Speaker 2: What we call it the United Field theory of the paranormal,
that everything is connected, you know, just like and John Keel,
John kill So also you know the guy who wrote
them with him on the prophecy.
Speaker 7: But so.
Speaker 2: The way I usually look at him is and he
give this, you know example all the time. So you
go on to Safari, right, and you go out into
the spelt and you run a truck and you're taking
pictures of the you know, lions eating the impalace and
all that stuff. Right, All those animals see you. They're
aware of your presence, but they don't have them they
don't have the intelligence. They don't they're not they don't
have the intelligence to figure out these humans are taking pictures.
That's the truck. It goes from here. You know. They
don't have that ability. Maybe it's the same thing for us.
We just don't have the ability, I mean yet to
realize what these things are. We see them, we interact
with them. They're not hidden, they're not they're not trying
to hide. They just happen.
Speaker 3: They even have lights.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they even have lights. I'm going to ask you
that question. Here's another thing. So why we've talked about
this before nineteen seventy five. What was that National God
helicopter incident therein right? So these guys, these guys, the
four guys a National Guide and you know, guys finding
a helicopter from here to there, and they run into
this thing that comes up beside them, and it's very brilliant.
It's almost like the UFO they use in close and
couses of the third cond terrible move. But it's flashing
green lights, amble lights, red lights. And so the question
is why would ufolays have lights?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a question that people ask all the time.
And some people say, well, it might be part of
their propulsion, you know, but I don't know about that,
but I have maybe they want to be seen, you know.
I mean, it's all speculation. One thing I did want
to mention earlier was I talked about Shark Vlaye and
one of the things that he says is maybe it's
something we would not be able to understand. I think
that's when that goes along with what you just said, right.
But anyway, well, I mean I don't know why they
have lights.
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I mean the the Hudson Valley sidings, which is,
you know a big thing where people for for lots
of people for like two or three weeks. So these
enormous flying wings going down the Hudson River. Yeah, I
mean people have stopped on one the the parkway whatever
that parkway is, and whilst on the New York through
Way stop and looking at these things. I mean like
hundreds of people, and there's pictures of them and stuff
that said, well, why would they have lights? Yeah, why
would they attract attention to themselves?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big puzzle. I have no idea, but yeah,
I've wondered that myself over the years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, when I mentioned something on the coin helicopter thing, Yes,
some of the people had experienced psychic phenomena afterwards, like
out of body experiences. This is covered by Raymond Follower
and the watchers and you know, just this bizarre. I mean,
they have this close encounter and then and it turned
out that the Air Force was asking questions about this
type of thing. They were interested, not publicly obviously, but
behind the scenes.
Speaker 2: Well, there's Newburgh, New York. There was a huge base there.
I don't think it's there anymore. It was a military
based National Guard base, but a lot of stuff used
to fly in and out of there. Apparently it was
very close to where the Hudson Valley settings were happening.
You know, so people thought, what's going to be coming
from there, that type of thing. But the fact that
so many people saw and then all of a sudden
just goes away, That's that's another way of thing. You know,
this says stop, but then all of a sudden they stop.
That kind of tells you, well, there's some kind of
manipulation behind it, there's some kind of intelligence behind it
or whatever.
Speaker 11: You know.
Speaker 2: So well, listen, I just want to remind you when
we're talking to Martin Willis here of podcast UFO, we're
going to clap for him because.
Speaker 3: I'll get upset for his share his shart and we're.
Speaker 2: Clapping for his uh thank you. His buddy Jack is
here with us. Mac.
Speaker 8: Yes, can I ask another question of Martin? Go ahead,
Martin on current events the current visitor to our solar system? Now,
I think it's what Atlas thirty one? Yeah, yeah, three, yeah, talkers,
it's a comment. But you know that professor from Hobbard's
on this one again.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, but he's always claiming stuff, you know, he
is just wonder what you thought about what do you
think about that? What this thing is?
Speaker 3: I just think it's something very very unusual. But I
don't think it's anything. I don't think it's any craft.
I just think it's something very unusual in the galaxies.
Universe is full of surprise. Yeah, we find out things
all the time. This does not make any sense. It's
gassing out in front of it. That's carbon dioxide, which
is very unusual because it should be. I think there
should be iron also visible, and there's not. Just a
lot of weird things going on with it. But I
don't think it's Do.
Speaker 2: You think it's because now we finally have the technology
to see these things? That's what the James webbins, I.
Speaker 3: Think a lot about a lot of UFOs that we
see through flear video and stuff like that. Yes, I
think it's because our technology is growing. We can say,
you know, I mean we only see I mean you
look at our spectrum. What we can see physically around
us is probably shit going on all the time.
Speaker 2: Someone said to me, they I don't know. Somehow I
found out that in the after nine and oven in
the Afghanic wa Afghanistan WAW at least, and maybe in
the Iraq War too. They're both happening at the same
time that people who were out at night with those
night vision goggles, so all kinds of stuff that they
would not normally see, you know, I mean shore airplanes
and stuff like that, but stuff you know, going way
too fast and doing all these kind of things that
you know aren't supposed to be real in the physics
of things, let's say, changing direction at you know, supersonic
speeds and stuff like that. So maybe the fact that
that we're getting a little you know, the more advanced
we get technology wise, the closer we're getting to Yeah,
what it might.
Speaker 3: Be, right, Mac, do you mind if I share a
story real? I don't know, Okay, So I might have
told you this before. Mac and Jack you heard of
my presentation the other day. Is that years ago, in
the nineteen nineties, I had an insurance broker came to
my house. I bought a life insurance policy and then
we were chit chatting afterwards, and said he was in
He brought up he was in Vietnam, and he said, oh,
that must have been traumatic. He said, well, not really.
I had a really interesting position. I said, well, what
was that? He said, I was part of the Air
Force and an Air Force task force that was investigating
why there were UFOs showing up during napalming.
Speaker 2: During napalm Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, And so.
Speaker 3: I was really curious about, you know, asked them all
kinds of questions, and he says, they're definitely interested in
our nukes as well, and you know, and he kept talking.
Then we finally changed subjects. But just as he was
ready to leave, I said, what does the government think
that they want from us? And he said, we're a
petri dish.
Speaker 2: That was his answer to, Yeah, experiments to them. So
na palm is this stuff that they used to I
don't think they have a name all, but it was
basically jellied gasoline.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would stick to you and it would stick
to you.
Speaker 2: Nice stuff.
Speaker 3: We always figure out wonderful ways to kill each other.
Speaker 2: H Yeah, yeah, well that was that was one way
to do it. So you would show up after they
name palmed during really Yeah, how strange is that? Because
they did show up after World War Two, they did
show up over the places that made that the enriched uranium.
They showed up a lot, and then the seventies they
showed up over your over ICBM bases. I mean that
goes on. That's what your buddy there, we made his
bones there, that used to be your partner, I used
to be used.
Speaker 3: To earlier what I mentioned A yeah, yeah, right, he
made it.
Speaker 2: In the bones.
Speaker 12: Right.
Speaker 2: You talked a lot about that, about the ICBM intrusions
by UFOs and stuff like that. Right, So well let's
get let's go to him now. So you're listening to
Martin Willis here on podcast UFOON. I hope everyone is
interested as we are, so you let's talk about him
for a little bit and then we'll get on to
Peter Robbins.
Speaker 3: Oh all right, Well, Alejandro and I were really close friend,
nice guy, nice, really nice guy, super nice guy. Helped
him out of his conferences out he had Phoenix out
the International UFO Congress out for an every year, and
he kind of went into he got involved in this
Enigma thing, you know, UFO detection type of thing. But
I just saw a lot of changes in him. And
then he really had bad things to say about David
Grush and lou Elizondo and you know, like all these things.
And I said, why are you, you know, so against
these people whatever? But so I was on recently. I
was out at Contact in the desert in California and
I saw Matthew Ford. He does a good trouble show,
and I sat and had coffee when we were talking
and I said, hey, can I do a quick interview?
He says yep, okay. So did the interview and then
I posted it, and all of a sudden, there was
this guy that actually was on my show a number
of times. He turned like skeptic and he's like wants
to take everybody down. He's like really harsh. So lou
Angelus that's what he calls himself. So he basically said,
you know, he did a meme of someone I'm chucking,
you know, because I was interviewing this guy, master Ford.
So I said, what's this about you? You have my
phone number, you could call me and say something or whatever.
Allehundra did the same thing. He stepped in, I'm very
disappointed in you and all this, and so I said,
why you disappointed? What are you talking about? He says,
you had someone on your show that talked bad about me.
It's like, oh, should I follow you around and see
who talks bad about you to make sure I don't
have them on my show. Yeah, anyway, I just I
don't want that drama in my life these days, and
you need to just cut it. I said, I'm losing
your contact info. I'm sorry, I don't want to deal
with you. And he also accused me. When Lee Spiegel,
a good friend of mine, passed away, I said, let's
do a show about him, and he said to me,
you just want to make money on your YouTube channel. Wow,
that's what I said to him.
Speaker 2: He just gave the peace sign, but only one thing.
So so, but let me tell one question. Why are
these why did they turn skeptic?
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you for now. This is really something.
Luel Lou Angelus. This guy out there, he's a comedian,
but he got into UFOs and I interviewed him. He's
been on my show.
Speaker 2: I've been in a comedian. Yeah, yeah, can you do
you have jokes about UFOs?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 3: No, he was serious. But anyway, and he did this thing,
e t phone home or would you call your congressman?
He was big into that. And so then he had
Lou Alizondo on his show and he had someone there
said to him, you have a sock puppet account on
Twitter or something like that. And so now he says
that he said he had death threats. I said, what
do you mean you had death threats? So I said,
are you you got to get you got to tell me.
I want to see the receipts. Yeah, definitely. So he
shows me a screenshot and it's something like the screenshots said,
I think the bots are after me. So I said,
are you saying what are you saying? You're having death
threats from bots the old chat room and he says, yeah,
like bots in the chat room or death threats. I said,
you're having death threats from bots and that's why you
went the other way. And so he called me an
a hole, you know, spelled it right out on Twitter. Wow,
complete drama on Twitter. And so and that's when Alejandro
piped and not on my side. Alejandro, who has my
phone number, we talked, We have talked often. He's just
so disappointed in you, you know what I mean. It's like,
so it's so like high school or junior highs.
Speaker 2: I've talked to this guy. He's a reasonable guy. I
don't understand his but he's The thing is, see, at
the beginning of show, we always say that this is
just all bs. Yeah, and it's noise. Yeah right, this
sounds like noise. It's the ten percent of the stuff
we don't really know about that everyone should be paying
attention to it, right, But again it's like a distraction thing.
Speaker 3: Well it's such a it's such a battleground on Twitter anyway.
Speaker 2: But it shouldn't be.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: I mean, people should get together and figure like attacking
each other. But that's what we do as a society now.
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's true, that's in vogue. Yeah, why can't
we all just get along? That's yeah, that's what what's
his name said when the cops are beating the ship
out of them, George Brandy, you must be involved, you
must be interested. Do you have any questions for these guys?
Speaker 7: Actually, you know, the only question I had was when
you were talking about the body that was coming into
the galaxy and what was it? And I like, something
in my brain flashed about the twenty six thousand year
cycle of Naberu.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and is that what it is? Yep? Just the
thirty one outlets, you know, the twenty six thousand Yeah, yeah,
everything changes. Yeah, yeah, I'm not feeling it. But elliptical orbit, No,
this thing is huge.
Speaker 3: It's it's going to be gone forever. And it's not elliptical.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's coming. It's coming from a pot of
space that is empty, people say, and it's not. It's
not following the usual comet pattern.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of differences about it. And and
I think auviy Low right off the bat said, the
odds of it coming exactly where it's coming is like
point zero zero zero one three or whatever. Odds are
very very low. But you know, it's a random I think.
I don't think it's anything planned. But you know, we'll
know in like a few days whether we're going to
be eaten by aliens.
Speaker 2: Or not well eaten. All right, so I'm going to
throw this year, buddy Jack. Are you a movie fan?
Speaker 3: Eh?
Speaker 2: Not so much. But what are you hosting commas the
third time? Have seen it?
Speaker 3: I haven't.
Speaker 2: No, I haven't been a classic?
Speaker 5: Is it not?
Speaker 2: It sucks? No, it's a terrible movie.
Speaker 5: We'll never look at Mass Potatoes exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ruined it for me. Mack hates that worse
than he hates cats. No, well, it's it's even It's
a really bad movie. They should of all the movies
that to reboot reboot that movie, you know what I mean.
The original plot was, the original script was that there
was a military officer, a lieutenant, lowly lieutenant who was
skeptical at first and then becomes a believer. Okay, it's
kind of like The X Files, ten years before the
X Files, right, But because Richards Dreyfus was like a
big star at the time, he's coked out the entire movie.
They've written books about how everyone's coked out for that. Okay,
And it is such a good idea, you know that
aliens would come down and contact us and do this
exchange program. Almost right. But a bad movie, just a bad,
bad movie. So Jack, what do you think it is?
You think it's what Martin says? It is just we
don't know.
Speaker 10: It's all I know is what I saw Back in
twenty twenty two, I had my own UFO sighting. And
that's I wasn't a UFO guy before I saw it.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, this running hill.
Speaker 10: Absolutely high, no totally sober, nothing, just powder man, just water,
that's it. It was just a floating RB that's all
it was. Was two hundred feet in front of me,
and I followed it in my car encounter was probably
about like five minutes in total. It was small, wasn't
scared at all, but I was definitely awe struck.
Speaker 2: Where were you?
Speaker 10: I was in downtown Exeter, up in New Hampshire.
Speaker 3: It was floating over.
Speaker 10: Someone's house, just hanging out. I don't know what it
was doing, but it was doing something and it was nothing.
It was not a plane, a helicopter, someone's toy in
the backyard. It was definitely something technologically like flying. And
it was completely silent and I don't know what it was,
so it.
Speaker 2: Wasn't didn't come out of peas air force space or anything.
Speaker 10: They could have, but I mean, what are they doing
testing in downtown? It was someone's house.
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. The people in this year are
so any Exeter and Portsmouth and there's a huge air
force space. It's not a zero base. P's air force space.
In fact, the ninety ninth bomber wing. I think that
people who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima were headquartered at
Roswell and when they moved out of there they went
to Portsmouth. That's right. So there's always been you know,
but people who live around this year and this that
base is enormous.
Speaker 3: It's so huge, ten thousand foot runway. And I lived
I lived across the river in a house up on
a hill. I grew up there and I could see
the runway from from where we lived. Trees are grown
in now you can't see, yeah in there, but I
used to watch up. It's you know who Mark the
Antonio is. Yes, he's oh yeah, so listen to this.
This is crazy. So I'm about I don't know, seven
or eight years old. I'm in the kitchen and all
a sudden I hear this big lounge boom in the
chandelier and the let land and the kitchen swinging back
and forth, and I run outside. I mean I run
out front to the porch and I see a big
flume of smoke and fire and F sixteenth crash.
Speaker 2: Right, Oh wow, markty and.
Speaker 3: TONI was up from Connecticut. He was on the bridge,
right in the Sullivan Bridge, right nearby, at the same
exact time.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's a previous UFO. He was at
Exeter last No, he was at another place we went to.
But he was the guy who he would take a
roll of toilet paper.
Speaker 3: I love that one. Yeah, He basically explains the amount
of time that we've been here, right, and as a
first for the whole yeah, that the roll of toilet
paper is the whole time the earth has been.
Speaker 2: He goes around the entire hall with a roll of
toilet paper, right, and then comes back. He says, this
much is where humans have been.
Speaker 3: Humans is only like this big three toilet paper. We're
just a little fragment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was.
Speaker 3: So our life is going by a little bits of
toilet paper at a time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to look at the same way.
Speaker 4: I actually heard someone saying the way they described it
was if you took the entire history of the of
the world and you put it into a one year time.
Spend Man has been on the earth the last maybe hour, yeah,
half hour of the last day of the year and
the rest of the year.
Speaker 2: There was nothing like us. It's had to and we
destroyed the place that It takes me long, but yeah, yeah,
I mean the thing is, is it perchange the peace
where the Exeter incident was, you know, very close by
and latsi UFO reports around this info space. So the
thing is, especially with the Exeter incident we talked about
this last week, is that people saw this something hovering
over someone's bond in Exeter, which is very close to Peas,
and cops saw right, and everyone saws a very famous thing.
And people would say, well, it's just an airplane landing
at peace, and they said, no, these people have lived
here for years. They know what an airplane landing at
peace reacting sounds like, looks like the works. This is
something different. It's kind of like you know, pilots, military pilots,
or you know, airplane pilots. They see all kinds of stuff.
They know what it is. They know that's Venus. They
know the one that's known. That's the reflection from oil rigs,
you know, off the Arabian Gulf. When they see something
they don't know what it is, that's the ufone, you know.
And it was the same thing. So it was peace,
though it's kind of been downgraded now. There's a lot
of stuff going on there in the fifties, I mean
they were there, nuclear bombers, two forty.
Speaker 10: Seven's nuclear subs too, subs right there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: The other thing about Peas is that, like you said,
the ten thousand foot runway nothing was a backup landing
site for the space shop. Because it was so heavy.
I mean they built the runway so heavily to take
the beef, the beef fifty twos or whatever bombers, so
you could land anything on that.
Speaker 3: You can learn it. You can land a commercial jets
sideways on that.
Speaker 4: Runway's two miles right exactly. It's funny because I've flown
out of there on commercial flights and with the hell
Allegiant Legion are ring Florida and they it was funny
because we we parked the truck. We walked into the
place where they check your tickets, and I could look
out and it was probably as far as across the
street here. My truck was sitting there free parking.
Speaker 2: I walk in, I do it.
Speaker 4: We get on the plane and the pilot says, okay,
as soon as you people sit down and get your
seatbelts on, we're out of here. Because there's no traffic,
there's none around with the only ones here, we'll be
out here in five minutes. Is a jet or a bypoint?
Speaker 3: This is a this is a UFO story, isn't it?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: No, And then he made it.
Speaker 4: On the way back, we were coming by Logan Airport,
you know, we were in Logan's airspace and the patter said, look,
we're going to land at peace. There's nobody ahead of
us as knowing around. We're going straight in. We'll we'll know,
we'll be on the ground in five minutes. It was
it was amazing how little was going on there, you know,
after the Air Force really stopped doing a lot of
stuff there.
Speaker 2: But before we go to a commercial, I just want
to bring in see you talked about the airports Chicago Airport,
oh here airport. For some reason, there's tons and tons
of UFO signings, I mean from the air traffic controllers.
They've like told people don't land because there's unidentified traffic
in the area. Right Why there? Why Chicago?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, this brings up a good point about
earlier that we were talking about them showing up in
the same place you know, that was Gates C seventeen
I think in two thousand and seven, oh here. But anyway,
that is really a strange I mean, if they're coming
from wherever they're coming from, why do they show up
when day place over and over?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, very strange. Yeah. Well we're going to
try to take a commercial break now. Well, right, I'll
approve for it, So you listen for one thing, Matt ahead, please.
Speaker 6: I just I googled it.
Speaker 2: I was on Martin Show on February fourth, twenty nineteen nineteen.
Speaker 3: Yes, sister's birthday.
Speaker 2: He remembers you. It was his birthday. Randy, are we
entertaining you? Absolutely, Susan, are we entertaining you?
Speaker 9: Yes? Actually, you just mentioned O'Hare Airport And I don't
know if you remember the plane that crashed in nineteen
sixty five there. I think my grandfather was flying over
here when I was to see me after I was born,
and he crashed, and that he was in that airplane crash?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did he die? Did he die? Oh? Wow?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry wow.
Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, I mean I didn't know him.
Speaker 2: But as soon as you said that, I was like,
oh yeah, yeah, something there, something in the weird thing
is that there's another really even bigger airport next to
a Midway airport or something, but nothing ever happens there. Right,
that's right, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: Anyway, we're going to try a switch. He has gone
to sleep. We're going to try to do a commercial now,
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Plus Martin Willis is Buddy Jack talking about all kinds
of stuff we usually don't talk about. So please stay tuned.
We'll be right back after this.
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Great Angleman. Quite a show tonight, different kind of show.
The whole gang is here. But also for I guess
we have Martin Willis, who is a very knowledgeable UFO
guy from podcast UFO is Buddy Jacks, engineer or whatever.
We don't usually before I introduce everyone because you have
to leave soon. We don't usually get this in depth
about this stuff. All right, the paradrama, but also different UFO.
You know sightings, what's going on?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Currently? Okay, so I'm gonna throw something to you before
you have to go. All So, the skin Walk a
ranch complete fraud? Yes, yes, no, I.
Speaker 3: Say gray Area. I don't think it's complete fraud.
Speaker 2: But it can't be. It's either black or white. It
either making it up, nothing is there or there is
something there. I think there's yet to prove it. But
they yet to prove it.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean there are people that argue
they're science. You know, of course Travis Taylor, you know,
has I think three PhDs or whatever, but real smart guy.
But there are people that I know that are involved
in science instruments and things like that, and they're thinking,
I don't know if that would work with what he's
trying to do, you know, the type of stuff, right,
But but I think there's definitely something going on in
that area. It's one of those spots where a lot
of weird stuff happens.
Speaker 2: Where is it?
Speaker 3: Where is it exactly? It's in Utah, and it's uh
his Utah.
Speaker 2: Right close to any any base, any any because a
lot of stuff happens. They've proved a lot of stuff
where stuff happens is seen or whatever around you know,
like military basis. Okay, And it might be they test
So it might be these people who are looking in
les pay absent to the military bases. You don't know,
but I just I've heard a lot about it before.
And I know there's money involves, which is a big
know he's he's drank the kool aid for this place.
Speaker 6: Wait a minute, we're talking George Knapp and Column Keller,
the original book Hunt for the skin Walker.
Speaker 3: I read that incredible. There's a great book, and there's
a lot of weird stuff that you know, if they're
if they're telling the truth, a lot of weird stuff happened.
Speaker 2: Let's see something in your punch there. I think that's
the problem.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, which I think Brandy and I had to
sip from that.
Speaker 10: Kool aid as.
Speaker 3: Definitely not drinking kool aid. I can tell you. Here's
the thing, though, A man down, man down.
Speaker 2: If you had let's say you were the guy who
was in charge of information, director of information at the
skin Walker ranch.
Speaker 5: That would mean he'd be Dragon.
Speaker 3: Yes, Dragon, Dragon's got an attitude. I now there's uh,
what's that other guy's name? Real nice guy.
Speaker 2: See, we don't get this. We never get into this
deep because it's nuts. But let me ask you this,
wouldn't you, at some point, because this is your job,
come out with some kind of a report and say
we've found that this is it. This is the definitive
video of some monster showing up and you know, eating
our goats or you know what I mean, all the
stuff that they've claimed happens.
Speaker 3: There, well sized dog and you know, right, oh yeah
right right.
Speaker 2: And vanishing it and all that kind of stuff. Why
wouldn't you just come out and say here it is.
Convince everybody, have a video, have a scientific proof of it.
I mean only because it's been twenty years easily right.
Speaker 3: Well, they had that panel there. John Alexander was one
of the people on that panel.
Speaker 2: He's a fraud man. You used to have him on
our show all the time out there, Yeah, go ahead, good,
but he is and I can.
Speaker 3: But you know, they had that that that panel that
was there, and some strange things happen, and one of
the things, say, switch would know that if he's read
that book now. One of the things that they saw
they looked like kind of a portal opening in the thing,
crawling out of it and then walking away.
Speaker 2: You know, I mean it's a video, Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I mean that's what we say about everything. You know,
we don't have direct evidence of it, but there's a
lot of things that supposedly happened there to that family.
Things missing, the cameras all set up around the the
when that cattle mutilation happened. Looked like it got dropped
into a hole and the cameras failed, you know what
I mean, just weird.
Speaker 2: Why would they fail? You know? I mean it's conveniently failed.
Speaker 3: Well they did not want to.
Speaker 2: But they always do because about all of this stuff.
Speaker 6: And I'm sorry I tried to raise you better than.
Speaker 2: This, Brandy. Brandy, I'm gonna apologize to you first and
then shots fired. The thing is is that once we
said before, ninety percent of this is noise to green.
Speaker 3: It you mean to make the television show? Is that
what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: Is like it's either distraction or misinformation or people making
stuff up or whatever.
Speaker 3: I don't know if I call it ninety I think
some things happened there.
Speaker 2: But as you said before, I don't want you to
go on this. But you said, if we found out
with ufoson, it would be the greatest the paranormal, be
the greatest ever, right, I mean the greatest discovery in
mankind because it'd be like something not like us. Right,
It'd be bigger than the moon learning. Right, if you
found out, then if you are at this place that
is like supposed to be wired for sion, wired for video,
and they and the guy who bought it has a
lot of money, Yeah, well you know where is it?
Where's where's the proof? Mac? They have showed some some video,
But that would be the biggest Well why isn't it
the biggest story ever?
Speaker 6: Definitive because of their Robertson panel, because of the mentality people.
Speaker 2: If you went now, if you went to any news
network now box, let's say, and you said, I have
a video of a monster coming out of a portal
and it's definitive, that would be the one that's all
we hear about for a week.
Speaker 3: Well not now, not with AI. Now, if they proved it, right,
I proved it was an original from that.
Speaker 2: Would be the biggest story ever. I mean, a monsk
coming on with a portal that has never happened before,
So where is it? See? That's what I mean. That's
it's almost in a way, they're doing what the government
is doing. It's like teasing you. Now this happened, but
the camera shut off this you know, you need something,
you know, for all those people we said that really
love alien movies, you need you need the flying size
on landing on the White House lawn, you know what
I mean? You need that receipt right and then and
then everything changes. I believe if that happens will never
be the same. Right, they found definitive kind of micro
wife on Mars recently. You know, it didn't really make
a big splash, but if there was some kind of
a UFO landing crash, well.
Speaker 3: You know you said, if we find out what these things,
it would be the biggest puzzle. I think the biggest
puzzle would be intelligent life out there elsewhere. Not necessarily
you know what a UFO is. But I think that's
the big puzzle and the possibility.
Speaker 2: I'm not something came here that would be yeah.
Speaker 3: Something like the phrase, the catchphrase NHI non human intelligence
visiting us. If we could figure out what that was,
then I do believe it would be a major thing.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it would be the biggest thing. I
think is bigger than.
Speaker 3: The moon landing, because bigger than moonland.
Speaker 2: So listen, Mone's limit was waiting for him outside. We
can hear the driving the engine. Well, I think both
of you guys, I say, Matt and Jack, so let's
clap phone. Well, sweeten that up and post afterwards if
we did thank you.
Speaker 6: Glasses upside down, you know, like they like they do
a flag when when you're in stress distress.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, it's enough, Yeah it is not, I guess,
So just plug your show again one more time.
Speaker 3: It's podcast UFO dot com every Thursday. For some reason,
I decided to do it twice a week now. Jack
helps me with my YouTube channel. It's grown two hundred percent.
So that's what Jack does. But so it's every Tuesday
at nine pm and every Thursday at eight pm. And
I don't know why I'm doing it twice a week.
Speaker 2: But that's a lot of work, is it? Two separate shows? Yeah? Yeah,
oh that's way too much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait too, So are you your live when you're live? Yeah, yep,
I go live here in an hour and.
Speaker 2: Oh you have to go to your show now. Okay,
all right, well let's clap them both well, thank you again.
Speaker 3: On our media.
Speaker 2: Thank you clapping for themselves. Just want to.
Speaker 3: Clapping for them to thank you.
Speaker 5: Thank you Martin and Jack.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us come back.
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, come back.
Speaker 3: I'll be gone for the rest of the year, but
I'll come back when I'm back.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, pay Bob Bell on the
way out. Did you read that in your condra? Thank
you a man? There he goes, Thanks thanks cool shirt
by the way, great Shrek, thank you mine, Thank you Jack.
There we go. Well, wait, there we go special guests. Well,
here we are in the macaloney Military Show, Different show tonight.
But listen, we still have a lot of time left,
so you don't want to throw it to thank places
about moth Man, the Switchy, and then we'll go to Brandy.
Are you ready for this? Switch? I feel bad like
asking this because if let me introduce everyone, Well, first
of all, Uncle as Uncle all in control hand for
some reason.
Speaker 4: Oh ma, hell everybody, I'm just hanging out, hanging back existing, existed, breathing,
changing oxygen.
Speaker 2: Switches here, Switchy, great to be here, Okay, different glasses
on the man of what he says.
Speaker 6: Except for that segment on the Skinwalker ranch.
Speaker 2: But we won't listen. You have to put your big
boy pants on. Realize there are a bunch of friuds.
Uh club is here at club? Talk about the big
boy pants, the cleaners.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I put my underwear on upside down a good
life switch does with his glasses, you know, but I.
Speaker 6: Hate to think what kind of distressed that sacrifice?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm enjoying this. It depends, It depends material perfect. No,
that's Max brand I think I think I stole that
line from Switch Show. Also Susan, Kay, Susan, how are
you cat free?
Speaker 5: I'm a great great show. I've heard his podcast before, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean see that's those guys know more of
you know, they get so in depth and we don't
really get that in depth because I think it's kind
of in a way, you know. But yeah, good guy.
He does two shows a week. I can't. I can't
handle one show a Brandy X is awesome with us Brandy, Hi.
Speaker 7: Everybody, And I think your one show a week is fantastic.
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Hang on? Can we go? This is
this is like? This is not right?
Speaker 9: Is that?
Speaker 2: Can't dancing?
Speaker 7: God?
Speaker 2: That such a thing is too much fun? Sure? Maybe not?
The nuns used to say that. Uh so anyway, listen,
when do we do this? When we do this? Top
ten questions to switch? Okay about moth Man, but I switched.
I felt bad, you know when I told you we're
going to do this. But if you get them all wrong,
it's going to be really bad. And you can't get
him wrong.
Speaker 6: Come on, man, I'm the moth Man. Dude. He's not
going to come to me when they want to like
basic Mockman one o one.
Speaker 5: Okay, he's the king of Mothman.
Speaker 2: Ok let's see. Okay, there we go. We should have
some kind of intro for this, but bring this thing? Yeah, okay,
where is that? At one?
Speaker 6: How about the soundtrack to Martha.
Speaker 2: That's Mathra, it's not Matha. What do you all right?
Here we go.
Speaker 6: I don't speak Japanese.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 13: Yes, And now it's time for another story from the
Lost Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's
report from the Fringe.
Speaker 2: Wow. So tonight a lot of production than that bumper.
Tonight we're doing actually going to turn the Tamason switch.
Top ten questions for well Mathman for switch because this
weekend is the big moth Man Festival. They're expecting the
twenty thousand people there. The switch will be on his toes.
You're ready to switch? I'm ready wombed up? You're cool?
Oh yeah? Number one. In his nineteen seventy five book
The Mothman Prophecies, John Keo Your Hero, linked Mothman sightings
to what ancient mesopotam Vesopotanian entity often associated with prophecy.
Speaker 6: And doom, the Garuda.
Speaker 2: Hang on, it's about the little trace a lilith p
lamana c the tudu d anama.
Speaker 7: Uh d.
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sorry what.
Speaker 5: It's lilith right.
Speaker 2: Latudu.
Speaker 6: Sorry he was frustrated.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Oh for one, this which you want
me to stop? Come on, okay, this is embarrassing, well
not yet wow, okay. Number two. The first published mention
of Wathman appeared in The Point Pleasant Renderistan on November sixteenth,
nineteen sixty six, on the what headline. A couple see
man sized bird b the Birdman of Mason County. See
the red eyed monster of terrorizes teens, d strange wing
beast stocks Point Pleasant.
Speaker 6: I'll go and see.
Speaker 2: Correct answers. A couple see man sized creature or something.
Speaker 8: I wasn't reading newspapers, you know, Mac, I think to
save switch further embarrassed, just not just want to switch
the topic. What he had for breakfast? Really, guys, just
this is getting really bad, sad. It's only two questions
at the time. I mean it's oero. For two, he's
in the same territory as Mahomes. Come on, I'm sorry,
you know, and Mahomes is supposed to be the best quarterback.
Speaker 2: And no he isn't listen a switch you want to continue,
It's up to you.
Speaker 6: Yes, let's let's let's continue with the chicken chip questions.
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I got to edit that out now.
Speaker 6: Oh get what edit out? Chicken shit?
Speaker 2: Okay, well thanks for saying twice. Okay, all right you bass?
Did you ready? Number three? Oh? Noel Partridge, Salem, West
Virginia reported his TV acting strangely before he saw red
eyes outside. What exact term did he used to describe
the interference A snow b manding see a weird humming noise,
be like a fine weave of hay wire.
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. I'd have to have to guess
on that one. See, but there's a couple of things
wrong with that. Well, he actually was misreported he did
not see eyes, he saw rotating red lights. And his
name wasn't Newell, it was Myrtle, it was it was
misspelled on his birth certificate as Newell.
Speaker 8: All right, he's calling it fake news.
Speaker 2: That's it's like Michigan. As answered the question, will you
switchy repeated? See weird?
Speaker 6: I mean, who would know.
Speaker 7: This?
Speaker 13: Embarrassed?
Speaker 6: I think he think he was actually listening to macmloney's
Military X File.
Speaker 2: Okay, A two switch. Thank you. It was like a
fine weave of hay wire.
Speaker 6: He said, I actually saw speak in two thousand and
uh six.
Speaker 2: You should have paid more attention. All right, number four child,
we go on. Switch. It's up to you.
Speaker 6: Yes, let's go on with these CS questions.
Speaker 2: Brandy, is this is this too sad yet? Tell us
it's not.
Speaker 7: But I'm going to tell you this is hard. I
don't know all that about moth Man, but I haven't
gotten one right in my own he's.
Speaker 2: The moth Man guy.
Speaker 6: He's for the little chicken ship stuff. You go for
the broader again with that again.
Speaker 2: He turns it against this. Let's see what happens, right,
Susan Chew. We go on, Susan, you have the she's
getting a big thumb. Little John Number four Mary Mary
High with an odd name that would be a journalist
for the Athens Messenger recorded strange dreams before the Silver
Bridge lapse. What was unusual about them? Okay, so the
civil Bird, the Silver Bridge collapse, at the kind of
height of the Mothmand sightings, a lot of people kind of.
Speaker 6: Came well, not actually it was more towards the end
and more toward the end. Actually, thirteen months of the day.
Well that the Scarberry's of the Mallans had that first
sighting on November fifteenth, nineteen sixty six. It was a
December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven that the Silver Bridge collapsed
with forty six people dying.
Speaker 2: Well, what's going on out there? All right? So anyway,
Mary said that she had strange dreams before the bridge collapse.
What was unusual about the dreams? A they all involved
floods and people.
Speaker 6: They were like Christmas packages floating on the water.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the four uh the four months.
One question is switchy, That's what it was. They all
involved floods and people. She dreamed of Christmas packages on
the water. See she saw the bridge collapsing. They were
accompanied by men in black standing in her room.
Speaker 6: No, well, no other people had met in black images
in the room.
Speaker 2: She did not.
Speaker 6: Nobody saw the bridge collapsing go ahead. There were prophecies,
but they thought A keel thought based on what a
lot of these sign of contact he's were saying. He
thought that A was there a plant, a factory.
Speaker 2: Two hour show? Switchy, what's your ansign?
Speaker 6: Christmas packages?
Speaker 2: He got one rights by time you got it right,
you got not today?
Speaker 5: Number thirty seven?
Speaker 2: Who number five? Which? Ohio time across the river from
point Pleasant also reported heavy wath Man activity in UFO
activity during nineteen sixty six to sixty seven A. Portsmouth, B, Galopolis, C. Marietta,
d Iron Town.
Speaker 6: Well, a lot of talents did, but it was Gallipolis.
A lot of people mispronounced that.
Speaker 2: Two two, no, two and three. But you okay, you're
feeling all right.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. I'm waiting for a good question. Oh hey, listen,
the listeners are loving this, are they really?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, here we go. I mean between number six.
In addition to glowing eyes, what bi is our physical effect?
Did witnesses say they felt when marth Man looked at them?
In addition of glowing eyes? What biz our physical effect?
Speaker 8: Please?
Speaker 2: In addition to glowing eyes, what bizarre physical effect did
witnesses say they felt when Mathman was looking at them?
A temporary can I can I go through the floor?
A temporary blindness, B sudden paralysis, see a sense of
hypnotic fear, A dizziness, the A burning sensation.
Speaker 6: Paralysis in some cases, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: But a sense of hypnotic fear or dizziness take get
every show.
Speaker 6: Oh that was because of me.
Speaker 5: Okay, And I'm pretty sure the burning sensation had nothing.
Speaker 2: To do nothing to do with it, probably had exactly.
Speaker 6: Something they picked up in Tijuana.
Speaker 2: I think that's offensive. Switches all right, number seven? Ready,
should we go?
Speaker 10: One?
Speaker 2: Switch?
Speaker 6: Go ahead?
Speaker 2: Okay. Keel noted your for reports during the moth Man
era often featured box like objects. He connected these to
what Cold War technologies A stealth bombers, B satellite civilians platforms,
see early drone prototypes, D radar jimmy devices.
Speaker 6: Have no idea A Yeah, well I said, hey, maybe,
but said maybe B C or D.
Speaker 2: B satellite saviillance. Okay, switch, I don't know. We got
like three more you want to I don't know.
Speaker 6: I'm still waiting for a good question.
Speaker 2: Well you know, it's what about those red sox? I
was just gonna say the it's a disappointment. Well, well
he's got a couple, right, but it's not really expert
territory there, switching sho, I gave you.
Speaker 6: Some expert commentary correcting some of your questions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, see he's that kind of guy.
Speaker 4: Now, were these questions generated by AI they were okay,
well there you go.
Speaker 2: Switch.
Speaker 8: Oh good God, don't defend him now.
Speaker 2: Yeah right, really wait too late for that. Okay, let
them let them get down with this. Let him go
down ship. You should okay. Number eight the Silver Bridges
I collapsed on December nineteen sixty seven was a suspension
bridge of what specific design? Here we go. The Silver
Bridges that collapsed in December sixty seven was of suspension
bridge of what specific design? I mean, it's tragic, but
this bridge collapsed at the height of Christmas season. A
lot of people watch some wives and people connect that
with the watman sighting. So switch cable stayed b I
by chained suspension see can leave a trust? Wow? The
wile Warren Trush will trust he plays in Miami. Dun'ty
Warren trust.
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say eyebar because it couldn't.
Speaker 2: Be the legos switchy, You're right, it was a eyebo
chain suspension bridge. Number nine, Wow, okay, only because.
Speaker 6: Mean on my phone, robots doing max work for it?
What what?
Speaker 9: What?
Speaker 7: What? What?
Speaker 2: They came up with good questions. You just can't. They
came up with, Okay, switch, it's okay, switch.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about close encounters of the third kind again.
Speaker 2: That sucking movie. Yeah, all right, number nine? What which folklorist?
I argued that the month Man legend reflected Cold War
anxieties and a quote wave of monster lore? Wow? What
Folklore's argued that the month Man legend reflect the Cold
War anxieties and a wave of monster law. A. Lauren Coleman, B,
John Harold Broomwald, uh C Jeffrey DB's cow d uncle,
Al go ahead, please, uh.
Speaker 6: Arnold Stang, Jan Harold. I'm assuming he was in therapy.
Speaker 8: For self described Yes, this is really I got as
many as he got. How many amateurs you didn't get?
Speaker 6: Crap? Don't give me that?
Speaker 2: Wow? Okay?
Speaker 8: If you were asked me, I would should have text
me and I would have given you the answer.
Speaker 2: All right, number ten? Number ten? Or at the end
of this John Keel used the term ultra terrestrials and
his private notes. How did he define them differently from
regular sterrestrials? Right? Ready, here we go. A. Altraterrestrials came
from parallel dimensions, not out of space. B. They would
divine beings mistaken for aliens. Interesting Brandy.
Speaker 7: C.
Speaker 2: There were time travelers from Earth's future. B there were
psychic projections created by human fear.
Speaker 6: Elements of one the A are correct, they're actually that.
The last one has some suggestion of what he was
calling an altar terrestrial. What he was trying to do
is get away from the extraterrestrial ideas going around. They
thought they were actual condition of the place.
Speaker 2: The spot almost actually sorry, switches right, switching, it's what
you're right, Okay. I mean the idea that they might
be from not green men from OS, but from someone
of the dimension really makes more sense now.
Speaker 6: But also the last one, when he talks about fear,
he talked a lot about paranormal mimicry and that we
kind of co created some of these things and thought
there was a very negative aspect to a lot of this.
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, what when don't we give like a
lukewarm a class of four for ten four? Yeah, he
cast the two of them. Okay, all right, I want
I want to.
Speaker 6: See club get a sports quiz from that that saying ai, uh,
you know automaton.
Speaker 2: Next week, don't pile on me, just can you crash switch?
So anyway, hey, listen, you listen your mac Maloney's military
song showing the Thunder Radio Network. I'm not going to
take a break out of a while because I don't
want to. I don't need the stress of the drama.
So why don't we just switch it if we can
switch it very quickly over to Brandy Sous, We'll do
this if you know what I mean. Okay, Brandy, So
you have a report tonight and just pretend there's a
bumper here for Brandy. That's want to kind of a bumper.
That would be a Brandy, very glamorous Brandy tonight. So
your report is on.
Speaker 7: It is on shape shifting and how it relates to
religion and belief systems.
Speaker 2: Interesting that before that, in that in the which you
got disaster there, but someone said that ultra terrestrials might
be mistaken for religious figures, and you know, we talked
about that a lot. It's like why sometimes they intersect,
you know, the intersect like weird paranormal stuff and religious stuff,
people appearing ghosts. Whatever, go ahead, Brandon. I'm just both
al and I are just what's the weather speaks here
appearance tonight?
Speaker 7: Okay, Well for the resources I used tonight, we're really good.
In depth article from Encyclopedia dot com, the book Shape Shifters,
a History by John Katsuba heavily managed that, an article
by Paul M. Davidson called Jesus the shape Shifter in
early Christian tradition, the Harvard Library Online, and several TED
talks given by quantum physicist Shoshini Ghosts. So Encyclopedia dot
com defines shape shifting as the alteration in form, or
substance of any animate object, and heavenlymana dot Net equates
shape shifting with the term metamorphosis, which it defines as
a change of physical form, structure, or substance, especially by
supernatural means. And it goes on to describe a site
a striking alteration in appearance and or character. And so
this report is going to focus on the shape shifting
that occurs when a person transforms their physical form or
consciousness into the physical form or consciousness of something else.
And there are examples of this throughout history and across
all cultures and within many religions. And to show that
this isn't just a woo woo or fringe kind of
one off paranormal event, we're going to talk about some
examples of shape shifting within a number of context and
belief systems.
Speaker 2: So what does shape shifting mean.
Speaker 7: It is altering a form or substance into another form
or substance or consciousness.
Speaker 2: So Susan Kay's cat shape shifted into a dog. Is
that a good example?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be a good one.
Speaker 2: Please brand it God.
Speaker 7: So one of the most common shape shifting that everybody's
familiar with is We're Wolves, where a man will shape
shift into a wolfram And there's a subtle difference between
that and actually the shape shifting that we're talking about here.
So I'm not going to talk about werewolves, but i
just wanted to bring that up, as you know, everybody's
familiar with shape shifting if they're familiar with were wolves. Yes, right, Okay,
So within the stories of shape shifting in a religious context,
there seem to be two main types under which all
shape shifting falls, and the first is where the shape
shift is due to some kind of blessing or enlightenment
or to be helpful to humanity, and the second is
where the shape shift has a nefarious purpose or is
given out as a punishment. Okay, So across different belief
systems there are examples of shape shifting, and I'm going
to list a few. One is the ancient Celtic belief
system where there are selkies, which are shape shifters that
are seals that transform into humans and.
Speaker 2: In the ocean.
Speaker 7: Yes, and their legends say that the seals are seals
in the water, and then they can come up on
shore remove their pelt, and underneath they're a beautiful and
seductive either man or woman, and that they to go
back into the water. They just put their pelt back
on and they become a seal. And this is kind
of like a a creature that then crosses too, kinds
of two spaces, you know, in in our universe, the
land and the water, so it's kind of like a
go between.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7: So in the Greek and Roman antheon of gods, just
about every god either shape shifted themselves or someone else
for you know, whatever reason, including conquest, escaping as a
form of punishment, or to grant someone immortality. And a
couple examples that are more familiar to people are Zeus
changing himself into different animals in order to entice various women,
or Athena, who's.
Speaker 2: A weird way to pick up here.
Speaker 7: Athena changed Eracney into a spider, or Narcissus becoming a
flower because he was so enthralled with himself. And you know,
the ancient Greek and Roman legends are mythology to us,
but that was actually their religion. To them, they believed
this was actually fun happening.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny because they have mythology was their religion.
You're right.
Speaker 7: In Native American belief there are skin walkers, which are
a Navajo entity that are actually human witches that can
intentionally transform themselves into animals through wearing the skin of
that animal, and they do this in order to curse
or harm others and their thought of as evil. Typically
they're not spoken of because to speak of it will
invoke it. And there are legends among other Native American
nations of people transforming into animals or vice versa, often
to benefit people. And one of the more familiar legends
is the Lakota Siou's white buffalo calf woman, who is
actually I think the equivalent to Woden or Mercury. She
brought knowledge and sacred wisdom to the people must to
return in the form of a white buffalo calf to
fulfill her prophecy of earth changes that will happen in
the future.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I saw a bee costume yesterday.
You were transformed. It was me.
Speaker 9: And I may interject right there, sorry, but of course
women bring knowledge and wisdom to the show.
Speaker 2: You just want to plant that out, thank you. Absolutely,
everyone else is just the right, okay, please.
Speaker 7: In Mesoamerican, Aztec, and Mayan religion, the Shamans were said
to have the ability to shape shift into jaguars in
order to travel between the natural and supernatural worlds, which
a lot of cats are supposed to be able to do.
Speaker 2: Cats. Do you say cats?
Speaker 7: I did, Yeah, that's why witches have cats. That's familiar.
Speaker 2: Oh they don't have dogs.
Speaker 7: Go between Yeah, like.
Speaker 5: A familiar Yeah.
Speaker 7: And in Christianity, believe it or not, the Bible has
numerous incidents of shape shifting, including Moses' staff and the
staff of the Egyptians turning into snakes, Jesus turning water
into wine, Satan appearing as the serpent in the Garden
of Eden, and lots of cases where angels are disguised
as humans. And there are New Testament references to Jesus
himself shape shifting such as appearing at the same moment
to James as a child and to John as a
young man. Each saw him differently, and later again when
they had a shared sighting, James saw a young man
with a scruffy beard and John saw an older man
who was bald with a full beard. And also during
the transfiguration, Jesus metamorphosed as a light being to Peter,
James and John, and actually the entire resurrection can be
seen as a shape shifting experience from a human form
into a higher consciousness, heavenly being.
Speaker 2: And I just want to say, Jesus interesting guy, right.
Es First of all, he is Swim's body. He always
looks good, you know, and he looks like he worked
out whatever. But you know, he was so into healing.
I read this book called Jesus before Christianity that his
house had an open roof and he would bring people in.
They would bring people in who are bedridden. They couldn't
get him in the door, so they rise them up,
raise them up, and then lower them into his house.
And that's how much he was into.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 2: The thing about Jesus was, whoever he was, his effect
is still on us, you know what I mean. The
year that we are in is because of BC Jesus,
you know, when he was born or whatever. But he
was the first guy who came out and said human
life means something. Human life is something that isn't something
you just you know, kill as an animal or whatever.
That was his greatest thing to me, because we have
a soul. Right he was Paris and to kind of say,
you know, we're we're not animals, we're human beings. God
more or less, go ahead, please, Brennan.
Speaker 7: In Islam, the gin are spiritual beings, and the Kuran
actually contains a whole chapter about them. They are similar
to angels or supernatural humans, and they can inhabit any form,
and they can choose to be whatever form they want,
and they can be either benevolent or malevolent, whichever they choose.
In Eastern religions, especially Hinduism and Buddhism, the belief in
reincarnation is prevalent, and reincarnation is in itself an aspect
of shape shifting, because the soul receives a new form
with every incarnation. The ancient Taoist philosopher Hangzhou wrote that
a being's spiritual goal is to quote ride on the
flow of heaven and Earth and the transformation of the
six elements and wander in the infinite, and that would
make that being an eternal shape shifter. In Hinduism, the
whole world is viewed as a shape shifter because the
whole world only exists as a dream of God, and
so therefore it's an illusion where you don't really even
know what's true or false, and everything's always malleable.
Speaker 2: So they who is it? The Hindus believe that we're
all involved in the dream of God. That's it. Yes,
I love that. I love that philosophy. I would love
to be nothing but the dream of God. Right, so
you should win every race, you could win in every bet, right,
every football. But why would he dream? Now, I'm looking
at you like you're talking gambling to me. I'm sorry, Brandy.
Speaker 7: Police, Okay. In Buddhism, the maras are evil spirits who
can shape shift into anything to present themselves as obstacles
to everyone else who's on the path to enlightenment. And
the mars can even change into Buddhas in order to
trick people and throw them off of their spiritual paths.
It's just a I guess, better school for your enlightenment.
So in my research, I came across a Harvard Divinity
School master thesis by this student named Rebecca Carroll, and
it's called shape Shifting, a Practical Guide, and in it
she explains how shape shifting is both the cause and
the outcome of a shift in consciousness and when we
shift our consciousness perception of ourself to include all of creation,
knowing that our thoughts and perceptions determine that creation. Kind
of like what John Keele had to say, switch, we
come to know that we can theoretically be anything at
any given moment. And this actually fits well with what
I witnessed the couple of times that I saw somebody,
for lack of a better term, shape shift, and I
feel like I was actually seeing someone lower their consciousness
in one incident and raise it, Okay, there were two
and a half incidents. The first one was it was
an election year and there was a candidate that was
being interviewed by a major journalist and they were like
in a living room setting, so it was, you know,
real comfortable, and I was kind of half watching and
mostly listening. But at one point when I looked up
to the TV, I was, you know, watching the candidate
answer the question, and then as I looked away, the
candidate was sitting in the chair in a really strange position,
and all of a sudden, like all of this happened
in a split second. It's going to take me way
longer to say it than it took to happen. But
this shimmery, like the candidate had this shimmer and then
I promise I'm not insane, but there was like a
a reptile. Yes, yes, yes, well its second flash and
then this shimmer and the candidate was back to their
normal self, and I was like, you know, I blinked
and looked back and it was gone. But it was
kind of like, what did I just see there? I've
seen that before it was even into any of this.
Speaker 2: Me too, I've seen that on Red Sox games. Seriously,
you look at the guy and he turns into reptile
and he grounds out and go ahead, please okay, they
don't sorry, do you.
Speaker 7: Want me to even to tell the next example?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, please listen. So so you saw that,
say you're on TV. He's on TV, and he changed
his appearance on TV to you. You think he changed
his appearance to.
Speaker 7: No, because I asked people after that, did you see that,
you know, the like in the next days or whatever,
and nobody did. And so part of after I get through,
you know, telling about these incidents, you know, part of
my thinking was that maybe, like Switchy says with John Keele,
maybe you know, we we have to be on the
right wavelength to to coordinate with what they're throwing off.
I don't know, and yeah, or maybe it's you know
how two people can be standing looking in the sky
and one sees ufo and the other one sees a Yeah,
you know, you're just not maybe tuned in or I mean,
and I'm telling you it was like a fraction of
a second that it took, but I know something happened that.
So the next example, this was, you know, a long
time after that, I was sitting and talking with a
friend of mine in the middle of the day in
a regular room with natural lighting, and my friend like
shimmered and I promise there was an Egyptian pharaoh or
priest or something sitting in front of me for a
split second and then like blinked back into.
Speaker 2: Their female friend or a male friend.
Speaker 7: It was a male friend.
Speaker 2: Wow, and he turned into a pharaoh yeah, but he.
Speaker 7: Had he had no idea he did it. Like after that,
I was like, oh my gosh, like I don't know
what just happened here, And he was completely clueless. So
it wasn't like just like that candidate on TV. You know,
maybe people don't realize they're doing this, or maybe their
consciousness is you know, like lowering itself in the in
the example of the reptile, you know, just enough that
it was caught to you know, scene, or maybe in
this case, you know, without realizing it. My friend was
raising his consciousness without even realizing it.
Speaker 2: I don't know, can I throw something in there real quick,
something in him real quick? How about this? Right? I've
never seen whatever that movie is. But the fact that
we might be in some kind of a program, you
know what I mean, we're in something like a program
and the matrix the matrix, right, and everyone every once
in a while there's a glitch in the program. Possibly yeah,
I mean, and it's nothing, you know what I mean.
It's like, that's what's happening, and I should see the movie.
But like I remember, like someone we had some we
interviewed some guy. He said, when you see a wave crash, right,
all that action. What is that going on?
Speaker 10: You know?
Speaker 2: What is is that in your head? You really see it?
Or is it just like some kind of program thing
Quintin's Is it blips in the program? Maybe? Right? I
mean not anyway.
Speaker 8: You know, I just interrupted with you talked about reptilians. Yes,
I don't know if you remember that woman who used
to be on a lot of the radio shows, the
paranormal shows. She was abducted by, you know, reptilians. Yes,
and she said that was the best sex she ever had.
Speaker 2: Please Brandy, go ahead, all right.
Speaker 7: The last incident that I was involved in is just recently.
I was speaking with somebody and the person started to
do that shimmer and I like stopped myself and thought,
actually consciously thought, oh my gosh, this person's going to
shape shift, you know, just it was a split second
that I thought that. But as soon as I thought that,
it quit and and that person didn't shape shift. So
after that, I mean, that person has no idea what happened.
I haven't even said anything about it, but I thought,
is did I did my consciousness like stop myself from
moving into that person's consciousness so that I could see it?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 7: But okay, so this Harvard's Harvard master's thesis, it really
resonated with me because it talks about the shift of
consciousness and we don't know whether it's our shift, the
shift of the person shape shifting, or the shift of
the viewer or both. And there's a quantum physicist, I'm
wrapping it up. There's a quantum physicist named Shoshini Goes,
and she explains shape shifting as a superpower inherent in
all quantum particles. Nice, all quantum particles are shape shifters,
she said. And the superpower is quantum uncertainty. And it
refers to the behavior of quantum particles because none of
the quantum particles have a precise identity that can be
measured in all aspects simultaneously.
Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, So if you.
Speaker 7: Can measure the speed of a particle, you can't measure
the size or weight or mass of it at the
same time. And if you can measure any one of
those other factors, you can't measure the others at the
same time, so it could be constantly in flux. So
we never know what the true properties of the quantum
particles are. And if those quantum particles are making up everything,
then we really never know what the true properties of
anything is. And that ties into this Master's thesis because
that author correlates the Buddhist teaching of expansion of perception
with shape shifting as either a way to raise consciousness
or a byproduct of raising consciousness, and she says that
Buddhist meditation, the whole point of it is to remove
the physical boundaries that you think define you and get
into a state of consciousness where you feel fluid and
interconnected to everything. And in this state there are no
precise boundaries or true properties of anything, because you are
moving through everything and into everything, and everything is moving
through and into you, and so everything's fluid, everything's malleable,
and your perception at any given moment will determine you
in that moment, and if there's a shift in perception,
it causes a shift in ourselves. And at any given moment,
you could be another you, or anyone else could be you. Right,
And this is theoretical, but if it's proven, it would
explain the how and why beyond behind all the shape
shifting beliefs and reports.
Speaker 2: In the sub atomic world. Right the subatomic world, nothing
is solid right, everything is up to chance. So in
other words, so they would say that, you know, there's
a prick wrail right here, right, if you hit that,
you're one trillion times you're going to break your hand,
But then one trillion times hand and go through it.
And it's just the perception. That's how it is around
us that things are solid, that these things happen. We
look like how we are and stuff like that. But
there is that one in trillion sent chance that it
isn't like that, you know, And maybe somehow that's how
shape shifted. Maybe that's how every thing works. Everything looks
weird to us. It's just isn't in that one trillium
you know. Wow, Brandy cool, very cool. I'm gonna just
to wrap it up. I'm gonna go around the board here.
I'm gonna switch, wake him up. Switch. If you could
shape shift into anything, what would it be.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm. It wouldn't be permanent?
Speaker 2: Right, Wow? What a question. No, let's say, no moth Man.
Why month Man's not real? Wow? Oh, this isn't a mission.
Speaker 7: Everything's real and unreal at the same.
Speaker 2: Time at the same time. Right, It depends on the chances.
Speaker 8: There goes the bigger audience this weekend. I know I
love where you lost them. Go ahead, Switch, What are
you gonna chance her into? Uh?
Speaker 2: Batwoman? Something?
Speaker 6: I get something lighter than air so I could float,
fly and move around, you know, and just hang out
in front of the drug store.
Speaker 2: Okay, whatever that means? Okay, Switch Club, What would you
shape shift into? Tom Brady Repion?
Speaker 7: What did I have anything to do with the comment
you made earlier?
Speaker 2: Exactly? I won't lie, Susankay, what would you shave fift?
He wanted to say me, But Susan, okay, please tell us.
I can't wait for that.
Speaker 5: I'm with Switch.
Speaker 9: If I was going to shape shift into something, I
want to be able to fly, so i'd want to
be able.
Speaker 5: To hear people's conversations. And I think kind of Switch
and I are kind of on the same.
Speaker 2: Waveless soavesdrop in fi. Okay, Al, that's that's a ton
be be be.
Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to be a he wants to be Rudy.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was going to say that, but
I didn't get ridden every day.
Speaker 4: Well, you know, because Rudy has a caliber life, you know,
doesn't he well, he gets taken care of doesn't he
and he you know, you know you look, I'm just saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, Rudy, Rudy has a tough life, so Rudy the
hunt would the hunt, said Susan Ryes. Every day sounds
like a Pulley.
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go that deep into it, but
I figured, Brandy, what would you want to shape ship into?
Speaker 7: Whatever it was, it would be something that was a badass.
I'm not sure, but something that was like I wouldn't
have to be afraid of.
Speaker 2: Anything bad or whatever. He had one of those.
Speaker 7: Bad Wolverine Maybe I.
Speaker 2: Was going to say wolverine because to worry about, yeah, bobcat,
something like that, something.
Speaker 7: Bigger than that, something where you'd see it coming and run.
Speaker 2: Cougar okay, dragon, Oh, that would be cool. Drag would
be right out there. Okay. I would want to turn
into a cat. What cat? He hates cats? He wants
to be one that. I don't know. No, I would
want to be something that you could fly. Definitely fly
a big badass at the same dragon pretty bad, you know, yeah,
but flying would be kind of cool. Superman in the
fifty series, think about this. You see him flying along drugs,
right he's obviously on some kind of table there. How
does he eat in the window? When he comes in
the window his feet first? Does he make that maneuver? Oh?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to have the moves to do it.
Then he jumps out the window. How does he go
from jumping out? And then you know, but because he's
jumping on straight but for you to come in the window?
Speaker 2: Feed first she puts on the air brakes and he
stands out and some kind of a maneuver, right, and
then well they didn't have the special effects, you know,
didn't have AI are you? Is that the cherry on top?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it.
Speaker 2: Let's clap for her, extending clap. We know, what have
you ever acted like in theater or anything?
Speaker 9: Like?
Speaker 7: You a little?
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? Okay, all right, let's get into this share
with us.
Speaker 7: What what?
Speaker 2: What were you in the street?
Speaker 7: I used I used to be in this acting troop
that worked with the mental health center in the town
that I was from to We would do improvisational acting
and we would go to different groups that needed work
on like communication skills, and we would rehearse a conflict
situation and then we had a mediator who had stopped
the action and get input from the audience of how
to resolve this, and then we would improv resolve it
based on what the audience said we should do.
Speaker 2: Okay, a club. Do you think Sarah Palin is an
attractive woman? I think she's ugly. Oh I'm sorry, she's
studying stunning switch it.
Speaker 6: Oh, come on, guys, don't don't give me that the.
Speaker 2: Politics since it because a little Sarah Palin tonight, don't you. Yeah? Yeah,
absolutely so, thank you, uh Brandy for all that. Thank you,
And you would want to transform into a butterfly that
type of thing, but a badass a bat.
Speaker 6: Yeah, butterfly, bad butterfly.
Speaker 2: Good name. I was gonna say good name from Ben.
You got to switching. Well, I think they have to
bring the ship in. Yeah yeah, but switching please the
green crash image.
Speaker 6: I don't think I have a ship, but I got
a tray.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Hindenburg, isn't it. I'm sorry, Branday, you're
the first one we have to say goodbye to show. Okay,
thank you.
Speaker 7: I have a great week.
Speaker 5: Everybody.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining us, and we really
appreciate everything you do.
Speaker 7: I really appreciate all of you.
Speaker 2: Also, thankay all right, and thanks for looking really lovely,
Susan Kay. Also, I can't the blonde and the corvette
with the glasses can't beat it. Thank you, Thank Rudy.
Speaker 5: I will thank you for having me. I love being here.
Speaker 2: No cats, we didn't do your bit, but we'll do it.
If you were cat free, cat free? Love it? Did
you say cat patio earlier last week? Show call?
Speaker 10: Correct?
Speaker 2: Come on, that's the end of the world if what's that?
Just a place where cats will hang out when they
were in the mood.
Speaker 9: I originally set you off when I told you they're
in a cat suite that really have They can climb
on all these little things that are built on the wall,
and then if they want to go outside, they can
go out onto the CaTiO anytime they want, and it's caged.
Speaker 5: In so they can't get away or get hurt by
any other animal.
Speaker 2: Does anyone see how wrong this is besides me?
Speaker 4: I built a series of screened walls on my deck
a number of years ago that were hinged, and you
could them or close them, and I could when we
were out there, I would put them out of the way.
But when I let the cats out, I would pold
them open and I would make a little spot.
Speaker 2: The cast could walk out on the deck and be
out there all day. But they were, you know, they
were confined, so they couldn't get away. So the prisons,
well they're outdoors. Your cats.
Speaker 4: Now, there's a place on the island that has a
caged in area behind the house and a walkway for
the cats.
Speaker 2: Come out of a window on the head they cast.
It's really cool. They cats like rats, okay, with a
different move sea instead of an R. They sleep, they eat.
That's it. That's it, and then it ain't any kind
of affection you think you get from a cat. Is
just them saying can I eat? Where? Can I lay down? Well? No, no,
I don't buy it. I don't buy not my cats. Brandy,
thank you, thank you very much. Susan K. Thank you
very much. I have to do it. Club club, thank you, club,
thank you club. Well, thank you. Man. We start calling him,
calling Retelicus Maximus. Who are the Pats playing next week Pittsburgh.
They're going to get the ras man. Are you ever positive?
Is there anything you can I'm being logical. Why do
you say I'm not going to be this guy who
is going to be. Everything they do is great. I'm
just going to look at the team. Their team. I
don't see it.
Speaker 8: The team is not Green Bay. Pittsburgh is not a
strong team. Aaron Rodgers is the best part of that.
And he's a fraud.
Speaker 2: Now that's true. Thank you. Well, maybe we'll see next week.
We'll see next week. You can uh, okay, you can
dump on me if I yet, but I'm thinking the big,
big loss for the Pats. Well you can think. Thanks Switchy.
It's time for you, same for me for what, Well,
something right? Really, get something right? Switch Sorry for embarrassing tonight.
Speaker 6: Embarrassed me at all, embarrassed me at all. I uh,
you exposed what you did. I appreciate how you exposed
AI and how absolutely watched.
Speaker 11: And unreliable, legitimate question it was. It was a great
it was a great play and seven Now I appreciate that.
And we don't really need clubs commentary right now.
Speaker 2: But you know, no, you're embarrassed. You'll get over it.
It's okay, get over.
Speaker 9: Switching, can I I adds? It's just the only one
that caught mine, not today number thirty seven. So y'all
are busted and have not seen that Mothman Prophecy movie. Uh,
that's the line from that movie.
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, all I can tell you people is I'll
see you in time.
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. The last so Twitch Club wants to
be the Gorn.
Speaker 6: Oh the Gorn. Well, he needs to be a better
gorn because the one, the original one, didn't move his lips.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, Mac had him on the show. He was
on the show. He did. Mac had the Gorn on
the show, so he actually said he says it was
out in the middle of the desert and made the
mistake of drinking six cups of coffee and there's no bonafide.
That was the biggest thing. So the Gorn was going anyway.
Speaker 6: I guess he was wearing his underwear upside down.
Speaker 2: Okay, So thank you, thank you, pens, Wow, thank you
all for tuning. Is glad to be here, Mac. Okay,
thanks everyone for listening to us tonight. I'm just going
to write to the end note plugs. So this is
back from the entire gang saying be safe, be happy, and.
Speaker 6: Bye bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 2: I think you need to disco music. There we go,
let's go. Oh look at this switching.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I.
Speaker 16: Just saw the Beg's But by the way, I also
saw it Richard Dreyfer in Jaws on the Big Screw
really yeah, yeah, he get eaten, but it was kind
of fun.
Speaker 6: After after half a century.
Speaker 5: Have you seen the