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Speaker 1: There are more than one thousand paranormal events reported around

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the world every month. Most of them can be explained

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as natural phenomena, but about ten percent cannot. UFOs, ghosts, cryptids, monsters, coincidences,

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abductions and remote viewing, Mothman, dog Man, Bigfoot and the

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Space Brothers, mysterious wounds, weeping statues, miracles on high, and

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voices beyond the grain. All these things and more are

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revealed every week on Mac Maloney's Military X Files. So

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in the rest of the game one one Switchy club

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Susan Kay and Uncle Leo Brandy X an Agent X

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as they delve into the ultimate mysteries of time and space.

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This is Mac Maloney's Military X Files.

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Speaker 2: And now here's.

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Speaker 3: Mac.

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Speaker 2: Well. Good evening, everyone, and welcome to Macloney's Military Sauce

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Show here in the Distant thunder Or Radio Network broadcasting

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live from the Stobby Galley Restaurant, fifty five Water Street,

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newbe put masks trying to hit all the marks. They

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have them off a little bit. We've quite a shoe

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for you tonight. But first let me introduce you to

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the members of the Plassem that I mentioned that the

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Stabby Guy is a great seafood restaurant, Great Hamburger is

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great steak and cheese Sammy. And what's one one favorite?

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Oh the French engion soup is and the onion rings

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with incredible Anyway, Okay, once again we have quite a

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show for you tonight. But let me introduce you to

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the members of the Posse Girls. Sorry, sorry, no one

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one tonight. There we go. I can hear them clicking

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off already. We just lost half hour listener ship. He

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is on a secret mission, but he will be back

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next week. Filling in in his seat reluctantly is producer, Engineer,

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get away driver be Killer Uncle Ane. The kiddies found

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hy Mac.

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Speaker 4: Hello everybody, what's uh? What's happening? Folks? What's going on?

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Speaker 2: You should know?

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, I'm just trying to keep out of it,

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the best thing for me.

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Speaker 2: Not doing too good of a job of it tonight,

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did man? So?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 2: How are the bees?

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Speaker 4: What's going on? Bees are fine? I mean I walked

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by the hive the other day and when the wind

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just shifts the right way, you can smell that they

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got into the golden rod. Because golden rod's blooming right now.

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So when bees get When honey bees get in the

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golden rod, they bring the pollen back to the hive

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and they're doing their thing and it smells bad bad.

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It smells like dirty socks. So you walk by the

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hive and go, man, that stinks. What's wrong in there?

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And it's really nothing. Once it cures, it's fine, but

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in the interim stages it smells bad.

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Speaker 2: So, as we all know, Al's bees produce the best

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honey ever, I'm not kidding. And how many bees do

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you have an how in the hive would you say?

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Speaker 4: I'd say each hive's probably got thirty thousand. Really, Okay,

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they're coming down. They're actually scaling back now because it's

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getting colder, right, and they're killing all the males and

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throwing them out because the males are useless weight on

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the dragstrip. They don't do anything. So they're big and

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they're clumsy and they don't do anything, so they get

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thrown out and they start to death and.

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Speaker 2: Oops oops oops yeah, okay, okay, this is the life

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of a mail little peek into b world also with

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us down there, and uh well it's a senior corresponded

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down there, and my sister's tank Top, West Virginia. Switch Blade,

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Steve Ward, Switchy, turn on your microphone. They're doing. Oh,

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don't tell We're going to go through this again. One, two, three, Switchy,

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How you doing?

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Speaker 5: I can hear him.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 6: Oh boy, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Switch, how you doing?

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Speaker 6: I'm doing good? But I think Brandy just vanished mysteriously.

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Speaker 2: Again she's back as mysteriously as she vanished. She's back.

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Speaker 6: It wouldn't be right if we didn't have technical difficulties.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you switch for talking behind our backs. No,

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but Switch, how are you? How you doing this?

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Speaker 6: Would she I'm tired?

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Speaker 2: Are you really tired of what? Yeah? I'm really everything.

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Speaker 6: No, of climbing ladders and you know, work working okay,

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and the dreadic T and T area where the Mothman

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was seen.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, this weekend is the Mothman Festival down in

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my sister's tank top, West Virginia. They're spending twenty thousand

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people in switches, like the special effects guy. Right, Well, I'm.

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Speaker 6: One of them. I'm one of the people that does

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contributes to the uh the hay ride and we have

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Saturday to night. I put up a bunch of giant

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spiders and light up their eyes and cobble together creatures

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and put up spider webs and that kind of thing.

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John and Tim Frick they rig the Mothman. You guarantee

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flyover of the Mothman due to their efforts. And then

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we also have the men in black show up, okay

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with their bullhorns to try to turn you away. And uh,

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there's a few surprises here and there. It's a little

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bit like a Halloween hay ride. But the area it's

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the Mclintic Wildlife Area Now it's where they used to

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make explosives or World War two back in the forties.

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out there, a lot of the buildings had been dismantled,

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so it's always been kind of a creepy area. It's

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perfect setting for you know, a monster movie, a you know,

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a murder mystery or whatever.

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Speaker 2: So do you have a defibrilator in case anyone just

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goes nuts? No, for insurance jilts insurance reasons.

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Speaker 7: You know.

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Speaker 6: We we just hope for the best. And uh if

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I tell people when I when I do the tours,

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I say listen, uh make you know, check the guy

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that's that's sitting next to you, and make sure they're

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they're there when you get back. If not, we uh

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it would within a couple of weeks, we have them

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fill out a form in triplicate and if ninety days

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pass and we don't see anybody, we start looking.

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Speaker 2: For then you start okay, all right, well that's quite

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a policy.

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Speaker 6: That's you didn't want to go off knew jerk, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, all they had was jerk. So thanks Switch

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for joining us tonight. So coming up, we are you know,

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top ten questions about Mothman for Switch?

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Speaker 6: Okay, we don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to embarrass you. Will you be embarrassed

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if you don't get any of them? Right?

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Speaker 6: No, As I told you in an email earlier, not

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an email, a text ahead that if I don't know

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the answer, I'm just going to make it up.

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Speaker 2: But the multiple choice though, okay, okay, best class.

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Speaker 6: If I don't know the answer, I'll have I'll defer

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to club and an answer.

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Speaker 2: Okay, just one more thing about your glasses? What do

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you get the now you get the Carol Channing glasses

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they get down.

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Speaker 6: These are the the Amazon specials.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, also with US is our senior international man

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about the world, world renowned security chief Willy Club will he.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Marc. Everyone, great to be here tonight, Yes, yes,

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good to see you. Feeling it's going to be, you know,

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pretty exciting show. Particularly I see we get some guests. Yes,

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we don't have to stare at the same people all

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the time.

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Speaker 2: So okay, all right. I had a question for.

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Speaker 8: Ahead rumored out there, is that you're the guy that's

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going to be walking around in the Mothman costume you

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over the weekend switch switching.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hope not.

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Speaker 6: Well if this is not a Mothman costume, this is

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a a Mothman replica replica that that flies down a wire.

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Eies are lit up by battery power and they blast

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a sound effect to uh for his cry.

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Speaker 2: Should have some EMTs on site there, man.

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Speaker 8: Jeez, I wish I could be there. I'm pretty excited.

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But you can now got the Patriots this weekend.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, ye bring a radio first things for us.

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Speaker 9: Do they have the mini golf there.

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Speaker 6: The Mofmaan mini golf? Yeah, yeah, they have the we

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have the Mockman black like mini golf. I don't think

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it's going to be uh manned during the festival. They're

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going to need all hands on handling fifteen to twenty

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thousand people floating through the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Wow, okay, so this is your big weekend switching. Good luck.

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Speaker 6: Thanks, I'll be uh doing the MC duties and speaking

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at the at the last speaking slot on Sunday when

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everybody is driving home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know that. Also with us tonight as

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our super fan down there in North Carolina, Susan Kay,

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the blonde with the clovette, How are you, honey, I'm good.

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Speaker 5: I missed you.

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Speaker 2: Everybody great, yep, yep, everything good. You send us a

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picture today? You writing what's his name? Tony? Okay, yeah, yeah,

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look good? Yeah, yeah, look good. Okay. Your cat free tonight,

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which is also a plus, I mean.

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Speaker 5: Your voice. I'm sure she'll be around.

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Speaker 2: Well, thanks for joining.

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Speaker 5: Us, Thanks for having me. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 2: Also with us up there in Prinkle Land up there

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in Wisconsin, Brandy K Brandy, how are you hi?

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Speaker 7: Everybody, I'm excited to be here. Good to see everybody.

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Speaker 2: We have to comment on this. Look, luckily one one

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isn't here because he you know, it's unsuitable but you

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look very glamorous tonight. Is that the word?

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'll take it, okay, all right, okay, Well, I

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last week you played some super groovy like disco music

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and I felt totally unprepared. So I wanted to like

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glam it up for disco just in case you played

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that music.

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Speaker 2: This time, well, asking you shall we see you here

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we go?

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Speaker 6: You know that's funny. I decided to glam it up too.

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Speaker 2: Hey we can tell Yeah, oh boy, I'm so glad

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we found that, Brady, Thanks for joining us. Thank you.

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So we have two guests in the studio here at

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the Stop and Galli. Our good friend Martin Willis is here.

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Martin is the the hancho for podcast UFO, right, I

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haven't right right, We're going to clap for him because

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well he'll be the kind of guy who would powder.

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Speaker 3: You don't exactly you got.

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Speaker 2: It awesome with him? Is his good friend jack Jackie,

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you like the engineer of the podcast? Is that right?

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Speaker 10: Just help him out with the odds and ends.

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Speaker 2: That means he's not paying you, right, right, So thank

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you guys for joining us live on the kind of

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at the Stop of Galley. So Martin just so you

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would tell mysafia, how long have you been doing your

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podcast now?

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Speaker 3: Well, since November twenty eleven.

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Speaker 2: Wow? Really was that it's fourteen years?

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Speaker 3: Fourteen years coming up? And you were I think guests

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four or five really?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Wow? Okay, so that's a long time to

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be doing the one thing, right, But you always have

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really good guests, that's the thing. In fact, we've poached

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guests from you before you have, but you you really

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got the the echelon of the UFO world on your show.

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Speaker 3: Well you got to do his ask That's how how

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you get them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, okay, Yeah, who's on? Who's your who is

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who's some of your notable recent guests?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I have something. I have Bill Chalker

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on tonight and you may not know the name, but

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he's like an icon in Australia. He's coming up. He's

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a long long time researcher all the way back I

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think to this sixties or seventies. And yeah, I mean

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he's he's been in, you know, on TV a lot,

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but I mean he's written a lot of books and

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so I'm excited about him. But you know, I've had

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a number of people on and it's not always to me.

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I like really interesting people and interesting stories and things

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like that. It doesn't have to be you know, like

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Chris Mellan. I was the first person to interview him,

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and you know, Ralph Bluman Fall I was the first

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person to interview him that type of thing. So I've

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but I've never been able to get David rush on,

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which I've wanted to get on. But David Grush and

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he was the one that first testified in Washington, d C.

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At the UAP hearing down there. Okay, intelligence whistleblower that.

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Speaker 2: You know those things are fraud now we should talk

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about I mean they really are. That they don't lead

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to anything, you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: Kind of disappointing. Well, I got to tell you the

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one that just happened on September ninth. There was a

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great testimony, amazing testimony.

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Speaker 2: And who was there? I was that guy, the guy

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from the Las Vegas TV.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, George and Apple was there. And you know, I

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kind of had an attitude about Georgia and app being there,

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but he really he really did a great job. He

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put things in perspective and brought things back.

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Speaker 2: But what is he going to do?

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Speaker 3: Well, he's he's been looking as an investigative journalist for

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a long long time. So I don't agree with him

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when it comes to Bob Blazaar, I'm not, you know.

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But but other things he's done, you know, it's pretty.

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to be believable. Though, because the whole Bob was acting,

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we should get we can get into it. But yeah,

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obviously the with something screwy going on there, and you

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know whether he was in on it or just got hoodwinked.

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But you know what Bob Lazad does these days.

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Speaker 3: He's too smart to be hoodwinked.

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Speaker 2: You know what Bob Lazad does these days.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the scientific stuff he sells there.

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Speaker 2: It's the Pentagon. Okay, he has that clearance. You know.

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Sometimes you go buy machine shops and they'll say we

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have this number. One one would know it, you know,

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and which means we can deal with the Defense Department.

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We've got security clearances. He runs a company that sells

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pots to the Pentagon. Now, if he was who he

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said supposed to be, why would he be dealing with

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the Pentagon.

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Speaker 3: It would never There's many things that would never happen.

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I have my own personal idea about him. I do

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believe because I've done a lot of research, and it's

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on my website too. It's called muddying thee UFO waters

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Boblazar something like that.

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Speaker 2: Dot com.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, no, it's under a podcast UFO dot com.

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Speaker 2: We should just don't really, let's just tell people who

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Bob Blusaur is real quick.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 2: So back in the early eighties, bible Zak came out

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and gave interviews to people in the press, mostly George Naples,

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like his guy, and he was the first guy to

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say that there was something UFO related going on at

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Area fifty one. Before that, some people had heard of it,

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but all of a sudden, Erea fifty one is now

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the most popular secret base there is in the world.

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things he said was that that the US government had

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crashed UFOs. That was his big thing. But what he

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said was we talked about this just a couple of

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weeks ago. I don't want bore anyone, but what he

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said was they weren't at Erea fifty one. They were

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at this other place called Test two right s too,

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Papoose Mountain, right. So that was the story, and it

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went everywhere. And now all of a sudden people saying, well,

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this secret base, which what they really do there is

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test pop secret airplanes. And they and at the time

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they had stolen or proloined Russian and Chinese MiGs and

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stuff that they used to fly there just to see

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what the you know, what the mechanics of your enemy is, right.

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who were testing these airplanes at ere fifty one they

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knew when Russian satellites were going over, because they would

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you could you knew when they were going over because

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they're on a timetable, you know. And what they didn't

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want is to have to take the secret plane, put

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it in the hangar, you know, at one thirty every Thursday,

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and then washed down the runway to get rid of

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the heat signature, wait for the FN thing to go over,

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and then just slap it all back out again. So

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they said, why don't we misdirect them? So Bob Lasa's

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story comes out, and sure enough, the Russian satellite start

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going over s two and not over the area fifty

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one as frequently, So these guys didn't have to, you know,

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do that much manual labor anymore. And I mean that's okay, interesting,

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all right, Well think about that, and then the fact

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that he now works for a company that sells postle

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depending on I mean, yeah, it's not even a dotted lawn,

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it's that's straight line.

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Speaker 3: I really personally think that he has taken on a

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persona of someone that he knew that had some inside information, because,

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like you said, when you something's a little fishy. For instance,

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his education totally proven wrong. He never went to m

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I T Or cal Tech, right, He was in the

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you know, in the bottom lower half of his high

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school and he would never even qualified to get into

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any of those.

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Speaker 2: So why do he work there?

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Speaker 3: I don't think he did.

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Speaker 2: I think I think he worked there. I think he was.

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So I mean, could they in all the interviews that

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they went through, they could he have really not worked there?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he could have take taken on information from them.

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So well, then confront of GEORGI nap on this, I

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have it. I have screenshots of our conversations and things

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like that, and Jeremy Corbell as well. Uh, you know,

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he just Georgia Napp just says, well, I've said many

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times the reason I've come up with the things that

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I've come up with, and you can make your own decision.

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He just was, you know, kind of cavalry.

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Speaker 2: But that still even makes it even more my sterious

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why he now be running a company that deals with

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depending on you know, if he was a fake or not.

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It's just an odd business fotnership, it is.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I mean, he's there's some a lot

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of weird things that happened in Bob Lasar's life. Yeah,

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I have, you know, his wife dying mysteriously, and you know,

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you know, all these different things and all the raids

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and things like that.

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Speaker 2: I just think he was an actor and I think

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he was an actor for somebody. And listen, it's a

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big deal. They could get Russian satellites not to go

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over like five times, have them going over three times.

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That's a big deal.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, that's the first I've heard of that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I think that's really what happened.

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Speaker 8: Anyway, Martin. Can I ask a question to Martin? Yeah,

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the other day I watched that testimony on c SPAN

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the Congressional Yes, And I had to shut it off

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because after a while they had some of these pilots

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who were testifying, and I could have sworn this guy

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was going to have a breakdown right on the on

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the air. He was so upset. I've never seen anyone

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so upset by that. Did you get that feeling from

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But to watch him on TV you could see it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very emotional.

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Speaker 3: I understand that. I mean I've talked to people that

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have been very emotional about their experiences, and one was

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a military person that you know, one was a military

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person and it was he can't even talk about he's

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only been interviewed a couple of times since two thousand.

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Speaker 8: But I was really taken back. I mean, here's an

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ex pilot who've probably seen everything, how affected he was,

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and I think that goes I think it goes back

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to years ago that he's relating to. But I just

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I couldn't get over that, the way he was reacting

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when he was speaking about that.

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Speaker 2: But what is really going on here now? Now? Again?

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We should do some you know, shoe leather hair. In

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twenty eighteen or so, they created this new committee to

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really look into UFOs. They changed UFO c UAPs or

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whatever it was, and they promised, they had a lot

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of promises that we're going to do this, We're going

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to do that, We're going to report every three months.

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And everyone got excited. And then the tic tac videos

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kind of came out at the same time, and I

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remember thinking, wow, this might be something else. And for

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the first time, the military of the up and said

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we don't know what they are. That was a big,

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big admission for them, right, I said, maybe this who knows,

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the time. I thought, he's the guy who wants to

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announce I was the president when UFOs were found out

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what they were, you know, So everything kind of came

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together and then it went away. Then they changed the

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name and it got really you know, lax, and they

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didn't do every three months, and you know, you know,

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and it was just kind of drifted away, you know,

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and they got everyone excited, and then nothing happened except

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as club always puttings out. They gave them money. They

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gave him like thirty million dollars or something like that.

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They probably blew through that, but nothing has come out

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since other than them saying we don't know what these

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things done. That's a big admission for them, but really

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nothing else, right, you know more about this than us?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, what's your opinion on that? Check? I

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mean you've been following this too, I.

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Speaker 10: Mean yeah, I just think it's a little bit of

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a jaded view. But like the House always wins that.

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I see, like they have all the secrets. They're going

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to throw us a bone here or there, but then

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there's going to be nine other things that are lies

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to go along with whatever that truth is, and we're

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never really going to.

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Speaker 2: Know why throw us the bone?

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Speaker 10: That's what I'm thinking, the narrative, that's all. But what

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that narrative is, I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: But the narrative we don't know what they are. That

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that I think that would panic more people than anything else.

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Speaker 8: And they were looking for funding. Excuse me, I think

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they're looking for money.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Did you guys see that video of this short like

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a last week, of that missile that hit something and.

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Speaker 2: Bounced bounced off. See that's another thing too. What was

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that all about? First of all, you really want to

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be shooting at these things? That's a I think that's

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a big mistake.

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Speaker 3: That was probably a balloon. I hate to say that.

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Speaker 2: Uh. And the health I am missile bounces off the bat.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't bounce off. It didn't fuse. It didn't the

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bomb did not fuse. It just it could have been

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an exercise of some type.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: The thing of it is is it shows up at

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Burlison's office and he didn't vet it. He just showed it.

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Glison's senator, Republican senator that's taken an interest on this.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and so anyway, they just put it out of steak.

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They just put it out there. It's ridiculous, it's foolish. Yeah,

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but there's a reason they just slip it to them

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right at the last minute. Oh yeah, so they would

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do that. I mean it did look spectacular at first,

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but people really took a really good look at it

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and they realized it had to be like a training actually,

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like a practice.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, like in the fifties, Truman actually ordered all

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military pilots to shoot at these things. The order was,

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try to contact them, you know, if you have their frequency.

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If you don't hear back, shoot at them, shoot them down,

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Shoot them down, and that was not you know, I mean,

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you'd want to be shooting at these things seriously, and

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but yeah, so I'm glad to actually hear that they

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hear that it was it was just kind of not

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a shooting of something that we don't know about, because

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if they shoot back, we could be screwed, right.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So anyway, well here we are well so educated. It

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is more what what don't we know? Modern what don't

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we know?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean, like you said earlier, you know,

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they come out and they say, well, we don't know

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what they are. I mean that that was a step,

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00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,519
But as far as what they are, it's still as

471
00:25:38,599 --> 00:25:40,559
much of a mystery as it was when I first

472
00:25:40,599 --> 00:25:43,559
started looking at it, maybe even you know, I mean,

473
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,519
you may learn to ask a few more questions than

474
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,160
normal when you don't look into this, but it's still

475
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,759
such a puzzle, and it's really to me, it's one

476
00:25:53,799 --> 00:25:56,960
of the biggest mysteries to solve. Yeah, absolutely, And I

477
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:01,559
don't know why more people aren't interested in finding out

478
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:02,920
what the heck's going on.

479
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: So that's the That's the weirdest thing to me, is

480
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:10,039
that First of all, like in the last decade, like

481
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,160
five of the top ten movies are about aliens or

482
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:18,480
UFO something. Okay, some of the biggest movies that Independence

483
00:26:18,559 --> 00:26:20,759
Day for instance, you know, one of the biggest movies ever,

484
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,319
you know, War of the World. People are into this stuff,

485
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:28,559
they are. But we go back to this that committee

486
00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:31,880
in the in the fifties who the CIA got in.

487
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,880
And basically what happened was when people would see UFO,

488
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,559
when people saw a lot of the UFOs over of Washington,

489
00:26:37,599 --> 00:26:41,160
d C. That big flap, people picked up their phones

490
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,720
and called the White House and called the Pentagon and

491
00:26:43,839 --> 00:26:47,720
jammed up the phone line, right okay, And the CIA said,

492
00:26:47,759 --> 00:26:50,000
we can't do this. So what we got to do

493
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,079
is we have to put the word out there. The narrative,

494
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,319
as Jack said, that anyone who sees the UFO is nuts.

495
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,920
You know, there's something. It's the it's the cuckoo fact.

496
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,680
And it works so well even to this day. Yes,

497
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,640
you know, people say, oh he's great, Yes you if

498
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:07,480
we must be drunk or whatever, you know, I mean,

499
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,279
that's the works. Okay. But the thing is is that

500
00:27:10,319 --> 00:27:13,039
when you see videos like the tic TAC videos, to me,

501
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,640
they're not little Green men from Miles. But man, there's

502
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,119
something going on there. There's something that we don't know

503
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,599
about unless you have another you have another explanation that

504
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:22,920
I do.

505
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: You agree, I totally agree. I mean it's, you know,

506
00:27:26,039 --> 00:27:30,440
to defy what we normally would consider physics, physics or something.

507
00:27:30,519 --> 00:27:32,680
And you know, I mean we'd be jello in any

508
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,920
type of G you know, G force, right, those.

509
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: Things, Yeah, doing stuff ironocically impossible, pulling under the water

510
00:27:40,079 --> 00:27:43,240
and coming out. And this is something not operating in

511
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,720
our five whatever it is. You know, this is operating

512
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:47,440
somewhere else.

513
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,559
Speaker 3: Can you hear over and over again about these things

514
00:27:49,599 --> 00:27:53,759
taking off super sonic speed not even displacing the air

515
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:56,119
or no sonic.

516
00:27:55,799 --> 00:27:58,079
Speaker 2: Boom yeah yeah, no sonic boom yeap.

517
00:27:58,400 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 3: Just crazy stuff.

518
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,799
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the kind of going right now.

519
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,759
Speaker 3: Let's say someone sexing you there. I think I'm seeing that.

520
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,079
I'm not sure.

521
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: Yes, the answer is yes, that would be.

522
00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 9: Question yes or comment. So back when you were talking

523
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:20,359
about the shoot first, ask question later thing about so,

524
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,720
it made me think of any like good UFO or

525
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:30,279
alien movie that I've watched. Yes, we always seem to

526
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,680
shoot first and ask questions later, which turns.

527
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:34,440
Speaker 5: Out badly for us.

528
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 9: So why would that happen in real life?

529
00:28:38,519 --> 00:28:43,559
Speaker 2: You kid? And always every movie it turns out badly, right, and.

530
00:28:43,599 --> 00:28:47,079
Speaker 9: It's always you know, someone's trying to make contact or

531
00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:49,519
in your ear engrossed in the movie and there's some

532
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:53,599
dumb ass that's you know, shoot him out of the sky,

533
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,400
and then that turns badly for us. So I just

534
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,960
really think that would happen in real life.

535
00:29:00,119 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: In the Nancy to the question, yes, Mac would be like

536
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:08,079
to meet Jack two times, and then Al's going to

537
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:12,599
meet his friend Bud one time. You guys don't want

538
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,640
anything to drink? You guys even softer nothing? Oh nothing,

539
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,000
club soda club? So two club sodas? Please?

540
00:29:20,079 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: Are we actually having the Hurst served them?

541
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? It goes from here to North Carolina to a phone.

542
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 3: Over there and they bring amazing Wow.

543
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:34,599
Speaker 2: Uh so is the Comden Committee way back in the

544
00:29:34,599 --> 00:29:36,880
fifties that's the name of it. Where they came and

545
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:37,720
they said let's.

546
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,599
Speaker 3: Make Oh that was in the nineteenth that was nineteen

547
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,880
seventy Comden Committee. Yeah, what you're thinking of? God, I

548
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:43,720
just lost.

549
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 2: What's the name is Switchy? You must know that in

550
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,599
the fifties.

551
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 3: Begins with the b nineteen fifty three.

552
00:29:49,119 --> 00:29:52,599
Speaker 6: Well there was a sign and Grudge.

553
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 3: No, but there was a committee.

554
00:29:54,759 --> 00:29:57,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, they all. It was the first time the CIA

555
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,839
got involved because of the literally the phone, the jammed

556
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,039
up phone lines, so the Pentagon the and be seen

557
00:30:05,079 --> 00:30:08,480
that they figure off the Russians and somehow pull that off.

558
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,559
You know, we'd be kind of helpless in a way.

559
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,039
Speaker 3: Mountains the Robertson panel, Robinson panel nineteen fifty three, and

560
00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:20,559
that was just scared to call everyone ant tenfold hatters

561
00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,200
and yep, just you're crazy if you're seeing a UFO.

562
00:30:23,599 --> 00:30:24,759
It was very effective.

563
00:30:25,599 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: You odd thing about that is that at the same time,

564
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,920
and this is in the book, is it? I guess

565
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:40,279
UFO is in watime unsealed everywhere in the Korean War.

566
00:30:40,359 --> 00:30:42,359
The Korean War was really kind of a training point

567
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,200
in the UFO history, though people don't really think about it,

568
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:48,079
because of the first time there are people on the

569
00:30:48,119 --> 00:30:50,640
ground with radar. There are people on a ship of radar,

570
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,640
but airplanes have radar too, so if they see something

571
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,559
the other people see it at the same time, then

572
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,440
something's there. Right. So the with Project Grudge at the

573
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,799
end of Project Grudge. First of all, the first conclusion

574
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,440
was they're not from here. The second conclusion was everyone

575
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:14,559
is either them or either just you know not or

576
00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:18,599
you know whatever, you know, or they're having head problems

577
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,640
or whatever. So then the press would say, well, listen,

578
00:31:21,799 --> 00:31:26,400
now people are seeing UFOs over Korea. Are you seeing

579
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,880
all your pilots religious nuts having delusions and stuff? And

580
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,839
they were like, you know, and that's really the beginning

581
00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:38,079
of the Blue Book in a way, which there, you know,

582
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,519
business model was we get, you know, a thousand reports

583
00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:46,519
a month, let's solve the ones we know that's venus,

584
00:31:46,599 --> 00:31:48,799
that's you know, you know, and then just the others

585
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:52,720
let go away. And yeah, so that was the Robinson pans.

586
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:55,599
So what was the Condom Committee? Then that was not

587
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,799
Condom Condom that.

588
00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: Was nineteen seventy, well, nineteen sixty eight, nineteen seventy and

589
00:32:02,759 --> 00:32:06,680
that basically was their reasoning for closing Project blue Book.

590
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Oh okay, so basically nothing to see here. Yeah yeah,

591
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400
but there was some that they did they showed that

592
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,359
were unexplainable.

593
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

594
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:18,119
Speaker 3: And one of them the Coral case, I believe.

595
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah big time. Yeah, yeah, yep, which was a a

596
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:24,079
cop in New.

597
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,359
Speaker 3: Mexico nineteen sixty six. I think it was just.

598
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: Came upon this thing. He's out in the middle of it,

599
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:31,440
does it. And he sees this like thing.

600
00:32:31,359 --> 00:32:35,039
Speaker 3: Land and egg shape eggs and.

601
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: Just completely not of this world. He saw people walking around,

602
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:42,000
he saw a little kind of a sign, kind of

603
00:32:42,119 --> 00:32:45,759
like an emblem on it. He saw all this stuff.

604
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:47,880
And when they left, they went down and they found, like,

605
00:32:48,519 --> 00:32:51,240
you know, the footprints of this thing. That's something obviously

606
00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:52,000
happened here.

607
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: Some burn brush say day yep. So yeah, I have

608
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,640
to tell you a little update on that.

609
00:32:57,759 --> 00:32:57,960
Speaker 2: Now.

610
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 3: Ray Stanford he did the first investigation on that. He

611
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:09,720
was there two weeks after it happened, thank you and okay,

612
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,759
and he was taking pictures and he took a picture

613
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,680
of like he had like there was a kid around,

614
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,720
and he said, hey, stand over by the the dynamite, chack.

615
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,680
I want to get the perspective and take a picture

616
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,920
of it. So I'm down visiting him down to Maryland,

617
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,799
I don't know, maybe six years ago, and he showed

618
00:33:31,839 --> 00:33:35,119
me different things UFO pictures that he's taken and longtime

619
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,440
researcher Ray Stanford, and so all of a sudden he

620
00:33:38,519 --> 00:33:41,759
shows me this picture of the dynamite jack with his

621
00:33:41,839 --> 00:33:43,960
kid in front of it, and clear as a bell,

622
00:33:44,119 --> 00:33:47,279
you can see this egg shaped thing with three legs

623
00:33:47,319 --> 00:33:50,599
coming down a little. Can you see a faint symbol

624
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,039
on the side, And I go, holy, yeah, said, this

625
00:33:55,079 --> 00:33:56,039
is this is it?

626
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 2: Right here?

627
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: This is you know? Anyway, I was flipping out about that.

628
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,240
So then I had Ray on my show, I don't know,

629
00:34:03,279 --> 00:34:05,400
maybe a year later, and I brought that up and

630
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,400
he said, oh, that was just something an artifact on the.

631
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 2: Negative, really yeah, and it just happened to look like that, And.

632
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 3: I said he threw me under the bus basically because

633
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,760
he just did not want it to get out there.

634
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,880
So that's what it was. He was afraid people would

635
00:34:21,119 --> 00:34:23,559
come to his house while he passed away. And now

636
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:27,440
the picture is resurfaced and there's people looking at it,

637
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,719
serious people looking at it. And I don't think it

638
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,639
was an art There's no way it was an artifact.

639
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,440
The only thing it could have been is something that

640
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,039
he faked, because there was a perfect shaped egg craft

641
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,760
in the air, and then it was a faint one

642
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:41,360
in the distance as well.

643
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,519
Speaker 2: So what year did this happen.

644
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,119
Speaker 3: Now, nineteen sixty six, I believe.

645
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,519
Speaker 2: Okay, so this is before we landed on the moon,

646
00:34:47,559 --> 00:34:49,760
because some people said, well, what this really was was

647
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,440
a test of the lunar lander.

648
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 3: Okay, And there's no way that was, No way it.

649
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,639
Speaker 2: Was because first of all, NASA, like there's pictures of

650
00:34:58,679 --> 00:35:02,599
the Luna land of being Neil Armstrong almost getting killed.

651
00:35:02,639 --> 00:35:06,920
He had a like jet from me. Yep, So it's

652
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,679
not that all right. But if people did go now

653
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,039
and they found that in the four footprints of this thing,

654
00:35:13,599 --> 00:35:16,039
it was there, it landed, and it took off whatever

655
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:18,440
it was it did, and they found like they think,

656
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:23,079
like radioactive stuff going on in the footprints. It burnt,

657
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,559
it burnt the brush around it. So something was there,

658
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:27,639
no doubt about it.

659
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,679
Speaker 3: And Lonnie Zamora was a solid.

660
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,320
Speaker 2: Guy, solid guy. Yeah, yep, just a matter of.

661
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 3: Fact, his life would have been so much better if

662
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:33,599
that didn't.

663
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,519
Speaker 2: Happen, if he didn't yeah he said that, Yeah, yep,

664
00:35:35,639 --> 00:35:36,480
for sure. Wow.

665
00:35:36,559 --> 00:35:38,119
Speaker 6: And Matt, can I ask you Martin a question?

666
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah?

667
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, Martin. What I heard was that they that symbol

668
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,119
that originally came up with they got together and they

669
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:50,719
made it up because they and they kept quiet the

670
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,159
actual symbol they saw.

671
00:35:52,559 --> 00:35:55,679
Speaker 3: Yes, it's correct, that's correct, And I actually have a

672
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,400
hat that has a correct symbol of what is the

673
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,480
correct symbol. It's an A with three lines down like that.

674
00:36:03,639 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 6: It's they just didn't want they figured, you know, people,

675
00:36:06,039 --> 00:36:07,159
they didn't want any copy of that.

676
00:36:07,559 --> 00:36:12,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's a three minds across horizontally. Yeah.

677
00:36:13,519 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's the original one. But basically what they

678
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,880
did is they had Lonnie. Uh. They changed the drawing

679
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,039
in case anyone came forward and saw that symbol and

680
00:36:23,519 --> 00:36:26,239
oh yeah I saw that symbol or whatever. Yeah, yeah,

681
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:27,800
you know, usually effective to do that.

682
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,199
Speaker 2: You're right, that's an incredibly solid case of something happening that.

683
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:36,599
Speaker 3: It's what turned Jay and Heinech to say, there's really

684
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:37,320
something to this.

685
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: So he was there's another name name dropping. He was

686
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,960
the guy who the US government's a He is a

687
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:48,519
doctor at Northwestern University astronomer okay, and the US government

688
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:52,880
hired him for a Project blue Book, which from the

689
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,079
early fifties to sixty seven was the the US military

690
00:36:57,159 --> 00:36:59,880
quote unquote looking into UFOs. But they bring this guy

691
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,719
in to give them some credibility, and he starts going

692
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,239
out on these you know, looking into these things, and

693
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,239
he says, wait a minute, you know there's something there.

694
00:37:10,599 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 3: You know, it took a long time before he turned,

695
00:37:12,559 --> 00:37:13,719
but but and then.

696
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: And then, but then he didn't. He said, you know,

697
00:37:16,159 --> 00:37:17,920
we don't know what it is. Don't believe all these

698
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,039
crazy stories. But there's definitely something there. We don't know

699
00:37:21,079 --> 00:37:23,840
what it is. And here we are today, fifty years

700
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,119
later saying the same.

701
00:37:25,039 --> 00:37:28,679
Speaker 3: Thing, right exactly. Yeah, So what is it there?

702
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: Martin? You should know? And first of all, are they

703
00:37:32,039 --> 00:37:33,079
not from another planet?

704
00:37:33,159 --> 00:37:38,079
Speaker 3: They can't be, you know, I mean, I like shock

705
00:37:38,159 --> 00:37:41,679
VALA's description. You know, maybe some of a lot of

706
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,519
different things. Okay, yeah, what people might be seeing. It

707
00:37:44,599 --> 00:37:48,320
could be something extra trestl they know how it figured

708
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,199
out something in physics that we have no idea, you know,

709
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,880
how to travel.

710
00:37:53,159 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 2: Yep.

711
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,599
Speaker 3: It could be time travelers. That one's kind of way

712
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:59,880
out there. But it could be interdimensional. I try to

713
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,360
think there's a lot of them that it's kind of

714
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,840
fits when you talk about interdimensional.

715
00:38:07,199 --> 00:38:07,599
Speaker 2: I agree.

716
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, so in that I remember Paulino were used to

717
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:15,559
say that they're all connected. The ghosts and Bigfoot and

718
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:17,760
UFOs were all into dimensional that's.

719
00:38:17,639 --> 00:38:21,159
Speaker 2: What we call it the United Field theory of the paranormal,

720
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,199
that everything is connected, you know, just like and John Keel,

721
00:38:25,599 --> 00:38:27,719
John kill So also you know the guy who wrote

722
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,159
them with him on the prophecy.

723
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:30,519
Speaker 7: But so.

724
00:38:32,119 --> 00:38:34,079
Speaker 2: The way I usually look at him is and he

725
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,840
give this, you know example all the time. So you

726
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960
go on to Safari, right, and you go out into

727
00:38:42,039 --> 00:38:44,679
the spelt and you run a truck and you're taking

728
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,480
pictures of the you know, lions eating the impalace and

729
00:38:47,559 --> 00:38:51,679
all that stuff. Right, All those animals see you. They're

730
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,360
aware of your presence, but they don't have them they

731
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,599
don't have the intelligence. They don't they're not they don't

732
00:38:57,639 --> 00:39:01,440
have the intelligence to figure out these humans are taking pictures.

733
00:39:01,519 --> 00:39:03,199
That's the truck. It goes from here. You know. They

734
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,280
don't have that ability. Maybe it's the same thing for us.

735
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,679
We just don't have the ability, I mean yet to

736
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,920
realize what these things are. We see them, we interact

737
00:39:14,039 --> 00:39:17,519
with them. They're not hidden, they're not they're not trying

738
00:39:17,559 --> 00:39:18,880
to hide. They just happen.

739
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 3: They even have lights.

740
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they even have lights. I'm going to ask you

741
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,239
that question. Here's another thing. So why we've talked about

742
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,639
this before nineteen seventy five. What was that National God

743
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:33,480
helicopter incident therein right? So these guys, these guys, the

744
00:39:33,559 --> 00:39:36,159
four guys a National Guide and you know, guys finding

745
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:39,360
a helicopter from here to there, and they run into

746
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,480
this thing that comes up beside them, and it's very brilliant.

747
00:39:42,519 --> 00:39:46,039
It's almost like the UFO they use in close and

748
00:39:46,119 --> 00:39:50,360
couses of the third cond terrible move. But it's flashing

749
00:39:50,639 --> 00:39:53,320
green lights, amble lights, red lights. And so the question

750
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,400
is why would ufolays have lights?

751
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a question that people ask all the time.

752
00:40:00,519 --> 00:40:03,079
And some people say, well, it might be part of

753
00:40:03,119 --> 00:40:05,159
their propulsion, you know, but I don't know about that,

754
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:09,519
but I have maybe they want to be seen, you know.

755
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,719
I mean, it's all speculation. One thing I did want

756
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:17,199
to mention earlier was I talked about Shark Vlaye and

757
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,360
one of the things that he says is maybe it's

758
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,519
something we would not be able to understand. I think

759
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:25,079
that's when that goes along with what you just said, right.

760
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,280
But anyway, well, I mean I don't know why they

761
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:28,960
have lights.

762
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,079
Speaker 2: That's yeah. I mean the the Hudson Valley sidings, which is,

763
00:40:33,159 --> 00:40:36,079
you know a big thing where people for for lots

764
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,960
of people for like two or three weeks. So these

765
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,480
enormous flying wings going down the Hudson River. Yeah, I

766
00:40:44,559 --> 00:40:49,039
mean people have stopped on one the the parkway whatever

767
00:40:49,079 --> 00:40:51,840
that parkway is, and whilst on the New York through

768
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,440
Way stop and looking at these things. I mean like

769
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:56,719
hundreds of people, and there's pictures of them and stuff

770
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,480
that said, well, why would they have lights? Yeah, why

771
00:40:59,519 --> 00:41:01,880
would they attract attention to themselves?

772
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:06,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a big puzzle. I have no idea, but yeah,

773
00:41:06,199 --> 00:41:08,280
I've wondered that myself over the years.

774
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, when I mentioned something on the coin helicopter thing, Yes,

775
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,000
some of the people had experienced psychic phenomena afterwards, like

776
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,800
out of body experiences. This is covered by Raymond Follower

777
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,119
and the watchers and you know, just this bizarre. I mean,

778
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,559
they have this close encounter and then and it turned

779
00:41:27,559 --> 00:41:31,639
out that the Air Force was asking questions about this

780
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,599
type of thing. They were interested, not publicly obviously, but

781
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:36,639
behind the scenes.

782
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, there's Newburgh, New York. There was a huge base there.

783
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,480
I don't think it's there anymore. It was a military

784
00:41:44,559 --> 00:41:47,079
based National Guard base, but a lot of stuff used

785
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,400
to fly in and out of there. Apparently it was

786
00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,559
very close to where the Hudson Valley settings were happening.

787
00:41:52,639 --> 00:41:54,679
You know, so people thought, what's going to be coming

788
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,079
from there, that type of thing. But the fact that

789
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,920
so many people saw and then all of a sudden

790
00:42:00,159 --> 00:42:02,440
just goes away, That's that's another way of thing. You know,

791
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:04,719
this says stop, but then all of a sudden they stop.

792
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,199
That kind of tells you, well, there's some kind of

793
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:10,679
manipulation behind it, there's some kind of intelligence behind it

794
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:11,119
or whatever.

795
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 11: You know.

796
00:42:12,159 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 2: So well, listen, I just want to remind you when

797
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,480
we're talking to Martin Willis here of podcast UFO, we're

798
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,159
going to clap for him because.

799
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: I'll get upset for his share his shart and we're.

800
00:42:22,119 --> 00:42:25,679
Speaker 2: Clapping for his uh thank you. His buddy Jack is

801
00:42:25,679 --> 00:42:27,000
here with us. Mac.

802
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 8: Yes, can I ask another question of Martin? Go ahead,

803
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,440
Martin on current events the current visitor to our solar system? Now,

804
00:42:37,519 --> 00:42:42,960
I think it's what Atlas thirty one? Yeah, yeah, three, yeah, talkers,

805
00:42:43,039 --> 00:42:46,719
it's a comment. But you know that professor from Hobbard's

806
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,840
on this one again.

807
00:42:47,679 --> 00:42:51,199
Speaker 2: Like yeah, but he's always claiming stuff, you know, he

808
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,559
is just wonder what you thought about what do you

809
00:42:53,599 --> 00:42:55,079
think about that? What this thing is?

810
00:42:55,199 --> 00:42:57,639
Speaker 3: I just think it's something very very unusual. But I

811
00:42:57,679 --> 00:43:00,519
don't think it's anything. I don't think it's any craft.

812
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:05,320
I just think it's something very unusual in the galaxies.

813
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,719
Universe is full of surprise. Yeah, we find out things

814
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,480
all the time. This does not make any sense. It's

815
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:17,599
gassing out in front of it. That's carbon dioxide, which

816
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:20,519
is very unusual because it should be. I think there

817
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:23,800
should be iron also visible, and there's not. Just a

818
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,599
lot of weird things going on with it. But I

819
00:43:25,639 --> 00:43:27,199
don't think it's Do.

820
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:30,679
Speaker 2: You think it's because now we finally have the technology

821
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,199
to see these things? That's what the James webbins, I.

822
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,519
Speaker 3: Think a lot about a lot of UFOs that we

823
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:39,159
see through flear video and stuff like that. Yes, I

824
00:43:39,199 --> 00:43:41,679
think it's because our technology is growing. We can say,

825
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,679
you know, I mean we only see I mean you

826
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:46,079
look at our spectrum. What we can see physically around

827
00:43:46,159 --> 00:43:48,559
us is probably shit going on all the time.

828
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Someone said to me, they I don't know. Somehow I

829
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:58,840
found out that in the after nine and oven in

830
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,480
the Afghanic wa Afghanistan WAW at least, and maybe in

831
00:44:03,559 --> 00:44:06,440
the Iraq War too. They're both happening at the same

832
00:44:06,559 --> 00:44:09,519
time that people who were out at night with those

833
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:12,960
night vision goggles, so all kinds of stuff that they

834
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:16,440
would not normally see, you know, I mean shore airplanes

835
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:18,440
and stuff like that, but stuff you know, going way

836
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,800
too fast and doing all these kind of things that

837
00:44:22,559 --> 00:44:25,320
you know aren't supposed to be real in the physics

838
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,480
of things, let's say, changing direction at you know, supersonic

839
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:31,920
speeds and stuff like that. So maybe the fact that

840
00:44:32,039 --> 00:44:34,360
that we're getting a little you know, the more advanced

841
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:38,800
we get technology wise, the closer we're getting to Yeah,

842
00:44:39,039 --> 00:44:39,559
what it might.

843
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:42,159
Speaker 3: Be, right, Mac, do you mind if I share a

844
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,199
story real? I don't know, Okay, So I might have

845
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,840
told you this before. Mac and Jack you heard of

846
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:51,000
my presentation the other day. Is that years ago, in

847
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:53,559
the nineteen nineties, I had an insurance broker came to

848
00:44:53,639 --> 00:44:56,719
my house. I bought a life insurance policy and then

849
00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:59,800
we were chit chatting afterwards, and said he was in

850
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,079
He brought up he was in Vietnam, and he said, oh,

851
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:03,960
that must have been traumatic. He said, well, not really.

852
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,559
I had a really interesting position. I said, well, what

853
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:09,400
was that? He said, I was part of the Air

854
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,880
Force and an Air Force task force that was investigating

855
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,280
why there were UFOs showing up during napalming.

856
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,119
Speaker 2: During napalm Yeah, yeah, wow, okay, And so.

857
00:45:21,519 --> 00:45:23,599
Speaker 3: I was really curious about, you know, asked them all

858
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,320
kinds of questions, and he says, they're definitely interested in

859
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,960
our nukes as well, and you know, and he kept talking.

860
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:32,440
Then we finally changed subjects. But just as he was

861
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,440
ready to leave, I said, what does the government think

862
00:45:35,519 --> 00:45:38,000
that they want from us? And he said, we're a

863
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:38,760
petri dish.

864
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 2: That was his answer to, Yeah, experiments to them. So

865
00:45:43,159 --> 00:45:45,360
na palm is this stuff that they used to I

866
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,320
don't think they have a name all, but it was

867
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,599
basically jellied gasoline.

868
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would stick to you and it would stick

869
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:51,960
to you.

870
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: Nice stuff.

871
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,119
Speaker 3: We always figure out wonderful ways to kill each other.

872
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:59,079
Speaker 2: H Yeah, yeah, well that was that was one way

873
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,800
to do it. So you would show up after they

874
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,679
name palmed during really Yeah, how strange is that? Because

875
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:09,599
they did show up after World War Two, they did

876
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:13,440
show up over the places that made that the enriched uranium.

877
00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:15,360
They showed up a lot, and then the seventies they

878
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,239
showed up over your over ICBM bases. I mean that

879
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,239
goes on. That's what your buddy there, we made his

880
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,840
bones there, that used to be your partner, I used

881
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:27,719
to be used.

882
00:46:27,559 --> 00:46:31,599
Speaker 3: To earlier what I mentioned A yeah, yeah, right, he

883
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:32,039
made it.

884
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:32,639
Speaker 2: In the bones.

885
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 12: Right.

886
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:36,679
Speaker 2: You talked a lot about that, about the ICBM intrusions

887
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,360
by UFOs and stuff like that. Right, So well let's

888
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,400
get let's go to him now. So you're listening to

889
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,440
Martin Willis here on podcast UFOON. I hope everyone is

890
00:46:46,519 --> 00:46:49,480
interested as we are, so you let's talk about him

891
00:46:49,519 --> 00:46:50,679
for a little bit and then we'll get on to

892
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:51,400
Peter Robbins.

893
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:56,199
Speaker 3: Oh all right, Well, Alejandro and I were really close friend,

894
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,199
nice guy, nice, really nice guy, super nice guy. Helped

895
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,639
him out of his conferences out he had Phoenix out

896
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,320
the International UFO Congress out for an every year, and

897
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,400
he kind of went into he got involved in this

898
00:47:09,639 --> 00:47:13,760
Enigma thing, you know, UFO detection type of thing. But

899
00:47:14,199 --> 00:47:16,039
I just saw a lot of changes in him. And

900
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,559
then he really had bad things to say about David

901
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:24,679
Grush and lou Elizondo and you know, like all these things.

902
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,400
And I said, why are you, you know, so against

903
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,599
these people whatever? But so I was on recently. I

904
00:47:30,679 --> 00:47:33,599
was out at Contact in the desert in California and

905
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,239
I saw Matthew Ford. He does a good trouble show,

906
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,719
and I sat and had coffee when we were talking

907
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,760
and I said, hey, can I do a quick interview?

908
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,119
He says yep, okay. So did the interview and then

909
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,400
I posted it, and all of a sudden, there was

910
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,239
this guy that actually was on my show a number

911
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,159
of times. He turned like skeptic and he's like wants

912
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,440
to take everybody down. He's like really harsh. So lou

913
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,119
Angelus that's what he calls himself. So he basically said,

914
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:05,440
you know, he did a meme of someone I'm chucking,

915
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,719
you know, because I was interviewing this guy, master Ford.

916
00:48:10,119 --> 00:48:11,760
So I said, what's this about you? You have my

917
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,639
phone number, you could call me and say something or whatever.

918
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,599
Allehundra did the same thing. He stepped in, I'm very

919
00:48:17,679 --> 00:48:20,599
disappointed in you and all this, and so I said,

920
00:48:20,639 --> 00:48:23,400
why you disappointed? What are you talking about? He says,

921
00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:25,760
you had someone on your show that talked bad about me.

922
00:48:26,599 --> 00:48:28,719
It's like, oh, should I follow you around and see

923
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,920
who talks bad about you to make sure I don't

924
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:35,400
have them on my show. Yeah, anyway, I just I

925
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,360
don't want that drama in my life these days, and

926
00:48:38,679 --> 00:48:41,159
you need to just cut it. I said, I'm losing

927
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:43,119
your contact info. I'm sorry, I don't want to deal

928
00:48:43,199 --> 00:48:45,559
with you. And he also accused me. When Lee Spiegel,

929
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:48,280
a good friend of mine, passed away, I said, let's

930
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,000
do a show about him, and he said to me,

931
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:54,280
you just want to make money on your YouTube channel. Wow,

932
00:48:55,119 --> 00:48:56,079
that's what I said to him.

933
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 2: He just gave the peace sign, but only one thing.

934
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,320
So so, but let me tell one question. Why are

935
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,079
these why did they turn skeptic?

936
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you for now. This is really something.

937
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:15,719
Luel Lou Angelus. This guy out there, he's a comedian,

938
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,559
but he got into UFOs and I interviewed him. He's

939
00:49:18,559 --> 00:49:19,119
been on my show.

940
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 2: I've been in a comedian. Yeah, yeah, can you do

941
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,239
you have jokes about UFOs?

942
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 13: No?

943
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 3: No, he was serious. But anyway, and he did this thing,

944
00:49:27,039 --> 00:49:29,199
e t phone home or would you call your congressman?

945
00:49:29,679 --> 00:49:31,880
He was big into that. And so then he had

946
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,519
Lou Alizondo on his show and he had someone there

947
00:49:35,679 --> 00:49:38,320
said to him, you have a sock puppet account on

948
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:41,360
Twitter or something like that. And so now he says

949
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,800
that he said he had death threats. I said, what

950
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,400
do you mean you had death threats? So I said,

951
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,159
are you you got to get you got to tell me.

952
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,760
I want to see the receipts. Yeah, definitely. So he

953
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,719
shows me a screenshot and it's something like the screenshots said,

954
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,960
I think the bots are after me. So I said,

955
00:49:57,039 --> 00:50:00,320
are you saying what are you saying? You're having death

956
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,559
threats from bots the old chat room and he says, yeah,

957
00:50:03,639 --> 00:50:05,880
like bots in the chat room or death threats. I said,

958
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,800
you're having death threats from bots and that's why you

959
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,519
went the other way. And so he called me an

960
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:14,880
a hole, you know, spelled it right out on Twitter. Wow,

961
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,159
complete drama on Twitter. And so and that's when Alejandro

962
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,199
piped and not on my side. Alejandro, who has my

963
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,559
phone number, we talked, We have talked often. He's just

964
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,880
so disappointed in you, you know what I mean. It's like,

965
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,079
so it's so like high school or junior highs.

966
00:50:31,159 --> 00:50:33,599
Speaker 2: I've talked to this guy. He's a reasonable guy. I

967
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:39,440
don't understand his but he's The thing is, see, at

968
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:43,000
the beginning of show, we always say that this is

969
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:46,800
just all bs. Yeah, and it's noise. Yeah right, this

970
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:50,159
sounds like noise. It's the ten percent of the stuff

971
00:50:50,199 --> 00:50:52,679
we don't really know about that everyone should be paying

972
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,159
attention to it, right, But again it's like a distraction thing.

973
00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,519
Speaker 3: Well it's such a it's such a battleground on Twitter anyway.

974
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:01,559
Speaker 2: But it shouldn't be.

975
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:02,079
Speaker 1: No.

976
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 3: I mean, people should get together and figure like attacking

977
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,480
each other. But that's what we do as a society now.

978
00:51:09,519 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, that's true, that's in vogue. Yeah, why can't

979
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,639
we all just get along? That's yeah, that's what what's

980
00:51:15,679 --> 00:51:17,480
his name said when the cops are beating the ship

981
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:22,400
out of them, George Brandy, you must be involved, you

982
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:25,880
must be interested. Do you have any questions for these guys?

983
00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 7: Actually, you know, the only question I had was when

984
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,639
you were talking about the body that was coming into

985
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:42,559
the galaxy and what was it? And I like, something

986
00:51:42,639 --> 00:51:45,599
in my brain flashed about the twenty six thousand year

987
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,679
cycle of Naberu.

988
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:49,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and is that what it is? Yep? Just the

989
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,239
thirty one outlets, you know, the twenty six thousand Yeah, yeah,

990
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:58,800
everything changes. Yeah, yeah, I'm not feeling it. But elliptical orbit, No,

991
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:00,880
this thing is huge.

992
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: It's it's going to be gone forever. And it's not elliptical.

993
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:07,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's coming. It's coming from a pot of

994
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:11,880
space that is empty, people say, and it's not. It's

995
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,239
not following the usual comet pattern.

996
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of differences about it. And and

997
00:52:17,519 --> 00:52:19,519
I think auviy Low right off the bat said, the

998
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,679
odds of it coming exactly where it's coming is like

999
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:26,599
point zero zero zero one three or whatever. Odds are

1000
00:52:26,679 --> 00:52:29,800
very very low. But you know, it's a random I think.

1001
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:33,079
I don't think it's anything planned. But you know, we'll

1002
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:34,800
know in like a few days whether we're going to

1003
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,119
be eaten by aliens.

1004
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 2: Or not well eaten. All right, so I'm going to

1005
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,559
throw this year, buddy Jack. Are you a movie fan?

1006
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:42,639
Speaker 3: Eh?

1007
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 2: Not so much. But what are you hosting commas the

1008
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:47,400
third time? Have seen it?

1009
00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:48,119
Speaker 3: I haven't.

1010
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: No, I haven't been a classic?

1011
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 5: Is it not?

1012
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,679
Speaker 2: It sucks? No, it's a terrible movie.

1013
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,639
Speaker 5: We'll never look at Mass Potatoes exactly.

1014
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ruined it for me. Mack hates that worse

1015
00:53:01,679 --> 00:53:05,840
than he hates cats. No, well, it's it's even It's

1016
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,679
a really bad movie. They should of all the movies

1017
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:11,519
that to reboot reboot that movie, you know what I mean.

1018
00:53:12,159 --> 00:53:15,480
The original plot was, the original script was that there

1019
00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:20,679
was a military officer, a lieutenant, lowly lieutenant who was

1020
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:25,000
skeptical at first and then becomes a believer. Okay, it's

1021
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,440
kind of like The X Files, ten years before the

1022
00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,559
X Files, right, But because Richards Dreyfus was like a

1023
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:34,159
big star at the time, he's coked out the entire movie.

1024
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:38,039
They've written books about how everyone's coked out for that. Okay,

1025
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,599
And it is such a good idea, you know that

1026
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:48,320
aliens would come down and contact us and do this

1027
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,119
exchange program. Almost right. But a bad movie, just a bad,

1028
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,639
bad movie. So Jack, what do you think it is?

1029
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,119
You think it's what Martin says? It is just we

1030
00:53:58,239 --> 00:53:58,639
don't know.

1031
00:53:59,039 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 10: It's all I know is what I saw Back in

1032
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,599
twenty twenty two, I had my own UFO sighting. And

1033
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:09,079
that's I wasn't a UFO guy before I saw it.

1034
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,079
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, this running hill.

1035
00:54:11,079 --> 00:54:19,199
Speaker 10: Absolutely high, no totally sober, nothing, just powder man, just water,

1036
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,360
that's it. It was just a floating RB that's all

1037
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:25,239
it was. Was two hundred feet in front of me,

1038
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,639
and I followed it in my car encounter was probably

1039
00:54:28,639 --> 00:54:33,119
about like five minutes in total. It was small, wasn't

1040
00:54:33,159 --> 00:54:35,599
scared at all, but I was definitely awe struck.

1041
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 2: Where were you?

1042
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 10: I was in downtown Exeter, up in New Hampshire.

1043
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,039
Speaker 3: It was floating over.

1044
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,119
Speaker 10: Someone's house, just hanging out. I don't know what it

1045
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,239
was doing, but it was doing something and it was nothing.

1046
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:51,519
It was not a plane, a helicopter, someone's toy in

1047
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:57,039
the backyard. It was definitely something technologically like flying. And

1048
00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,320
it was completely silent and I don't know what it was,

1049
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:00,079
so it.

1050
00:55:00,119 --> 00:55:02,599
Speaker 2: Wasn't didn't come out of peas air force space or anything.

1051
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 10: They could have, but I mean, what are they doing

1052
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:07,760
testing in downtown? It was someone's house.

1053
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,320
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing. The people in this year are

1054
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,400
so any Exeter and Portsmouth and there's a huge air

1055
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,880
force space. It's not a zero base. P's air force space.

1056
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:22,000
In fact, the ninety ninth bomber wing. I think that

1057
00:55:22,119 --> 00:55:26,719
people who dropped the bomb on Hiroshima were headquartered at

1058
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:29,440
Roswell and when they moved out of there they went

1059
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,840
to Portsmouth. That's right. So there's always been you know,

1060
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:35,559
but people who live around this year and this that

1061
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,280
base is enormous.

1062
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:41,079
Speaker 3: It's so huge, ten thousand foot runway. And I lived

1063
00:55:41,199 --> 00:55:43,920
I lived across the river in a house up on

1064
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,320
a hill. I grew up there and I could see

1065
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:49,159
the runway from from where we lived. Trees are grown

1066
00:55:49,199 --> 00:55:52,079
in now you can't see, yeah in there, but I

1067
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,360
used to watch up. It's you know who Mark the

1068
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,920
Antonio is. Yes, he's oh yeah, so listen to this.

1069
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,679
This is crazy. So I'm about I don't know, seven

1070
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:02,679
or eight years old. I'm in the kitchen and all

1071
00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:05,119
a sudden I hear this big lounge boom in the

1072
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,039
chandelier and the let land and the kitchen swinging back

1073
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:12,039
and forth, and I run outside. I mean I run

1074
00:56:12,079 --> 00:56:14,719
out front to the porch and I see a big

1075
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:18,639
flume of smoke and fire and F sixteenth crash.

1076
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 2: Right, Oh wow, markty and.

1077
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:23,559
Speaker 3: TONI was up from Connecticut. He was on the bridge,

1078
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,679
right in the Sullivan Bridge, right nearby, at the same

1079
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:27,440
exact time.

1080
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's a previous UFO. He was at

1081
00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:34,559
Exeter last No, he was at another place we went to.

1082
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,440
But he was the guy who he would take a

1083
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:38,480
roll of toilet paper.

1084
00:56:38,519 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 3: I love that one. Yeah, He basically explains the amount

1085
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,559
of time that we've been here, right, and as a

1086
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:49,199
first for the whole yeah, that the roll of toilet

1087
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:51,599
paper is the whole time the earth has been.

1088
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:53,679
Speaker 2: He goes around the entire hall with a roll of

1089
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,599
toilet paper, right, and then comes back. He says, this

1090
00:56:57,840 --> 00:56:59,679
much is where humans have been.

1091
00:57:00,519 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 3: Humans is only like this big three toilet paper. We're

1092
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:06,400
just a little fragment.

1093
00:57:06,599 --> 00:57:07,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was.

1094
00:57:07,679 --> 00:57:09,320
Speaker 3: So our life is going by a little bits of

1095
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:10,320
toilet paper at a time.

1096
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:14,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm never going to look at the same way.

1097
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: I actually heard someone saying the way they described it

1098
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,800
was if you took the entire history of the of

1099
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,280
the world and you put it into a one year time.

1100
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:28,000
Spend Man has been on the earth the last maybe hour, yeah,

1101
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,960
half hour of the last day of the year and

1102
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:31,760
the rest of the year.

1103
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,760
Speaker 2: There was nothing like us. It's had to and we

1104
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:41,159
destroyed the place that It takes me long, but yeah, yeah,

1105
00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:45,199
I mean the thing is, is it perchange the peace

1106
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:48,840
where the Exeter incident was, you know, very close by

1107
00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:54,039
and latsi UFO reports around this info space. So the

1108
00:57:54,159 --> 00:57:56,800
thing is, especially with the Exeter incident we talked about

1109
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:01,239
this last week, is that people saw this something hovering

1110
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:04,599
over someone's bond in Exeter, which is very close to Peas,

1111
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880
and cops saw right, and everyone saws a very famous thing.

1112
00:58:08,559 --> 00:58:11,320
And people would say, well, it's just an airplane landing

1113
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,840
at peace, and they said, no, these people have lived

1114
00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:16,639
here for years. They know what an airplane landing at

1115
00:58:16,679 --> 00:58:21,000
peace reacting sounds like, looks like the works. This is

1116
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:25,880
something different. It's kind of like you know, pilots, military pilots,

1117
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:29,199
or you know, airplane pilots. They see all kinds of stuff.

1118
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,800
They know what it is. They know that's Venus. They

1119
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,360
know the one that's known. That's the reflection from oil rigs,

1120
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,559
you know, off the Arabian Gulf. When they see something

1121
00:58:38,599 --> 00:58:41,599
they don't know what it is, that's the ufone, you know.

1122
00:58:42,159 --> 00:58:44,760
And it was the same thing. So it was peace,

1123
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,199
though it's kind of been downgraded now. There's a lot

1124
00:58:48,199 --> 00:58:50,079
of stuff going on there in the fifties, I mean

1125
00:58:50,119 --> 00:58:55,280
they were there, nuclear bombers, two forty.

1126
00:58:55,079 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 10: Seven's nuclear subs too, subs right there.

1127
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:01,679
Speaker 2: Now.

1128
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,199
Speaker 4: The other thing about Peas is that, like you said,

1129
00:59:04,239 --> 00:59:08,920
the ten thousand foot runway nothing was a backup landing

1130
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,480
site for the space shop. Because it was so heavy.

1131
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:14,800
I mean they built the runway so heavily to take

1132
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,960
the beef, the beef fifty twos or whatever bombers, so

1133
00:59:18,559 --> 00:59:19,920
you could land anything on that.

1134
00:59:20,199 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: You can learn it. You can land a commercial jets

1135
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:23,119
sideways on that.

1136
00:59:23,159 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 4: Runway's two miles right exactly. It's funny because I've flown

1137
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,960
out of there on commercial flights and with the hell

1138
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:38,079
Allegiant Legion are ring Florida and they it was funny

1139
00:59:38,119 --> 00:59:41,960
because we we parked the truck. We walked into the

1140
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,400
place where they check your tickets, and I could look

1141
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,119
out and it was probably as far as across the

1142
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:48,440
street here. My truck was sitting there free parking.

1143
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 2: I walk in, I do it.

1144
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 4: We get on the plane and the pilot says, okay,

1145
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:55,760
as soon as you people sit down and get your

1146
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,079
seatbelts on, we're out of here. Because there's no traffic,

1147
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:01,440
there's none around with the only ones here, we'll be

1148
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:04,400
out here in five minutes. Is a jet or a bypoint?

1149
01:00:04,599 --> 01:00:06,639
Speaker 3: This is a this is a UFO story, isn't it?

1150
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:07,079
Speaker 9: No?

1151
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:10,039
Speaker 2: No, And then he made it.

1152
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 4: On the way back, we were coming by Logan Airport,

1153
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:16,280
you know, we were in Logan's airspace and the patter said, look,

1154
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,000
we're going to land at peace. There's nobody ahead of

1155
01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:22,719
us as knowing around. We're going straight in. We'll we'll know,

1156
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,880
we'll be on the ground in five minutes. It was

1157
01:00:25,039 --> 01:00:28,519
it was amazing how little was going on there, you know,

1158
01:00:28,639 --> 01:00:30,679
after the Air Force really stopped doing a lot of

1159
01:00:30,679 --> 01:00:31,159
stuff there.

1160
01:00:31,199 --> 01:00:34,599
Speaker 2: But before we go to a commercial, I just want

1161
01:00:34,639 --> 01:00:38,199
to bring in see you talked about the airports Chicago Airport,

1162
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:42,920
oh here airport. For some reason, there's tons and tons

1163
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,320
of UFO signings, I mean from the air traffic controllers.

1164
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,840
They've like told people don't land because there's unidentified traffic

1165
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,239
in the area. Right Why there? Why Chicago?

1166
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,119
Speaker 3: Well, you know, this brings up a good point about

1167
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:58,400
earlier that we were talking about them showing up in

1168
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,559
the same place you know, that was Gates C seventeen

1169
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:04,559
I think in two thousand and seven, oh here. But anyway,

1170
01:01:05,119 --> 01:01:08,679
that is really a strange I mean, if they're coming

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from wherever they're coming from, why do they show up

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when day place over and over?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, very strange. Yeah. Well we're going to

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try to take a commercial break now. Well, right, I'll

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approve for it, So you listen for one thing, Matt ahead, please.

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Speaker 6: I just I googled it.

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Speaker 2: I was on Martin Show on February fourth, twenty nineteen nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Yes, sister's birthday.

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Speaker 2: He remembers you. It was his birthday. Randy, are we

1180
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entertaining you? Absolutely, Susan, are we entertaining you?

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Speaker 9: Yes? Actually, you just mentioned O'Hare Airport And I don't

1182
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know if you remember the plane that crashed in nineteen

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sixty five there. I think my grandfather was flying over

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here when I was to see me after I was born,

1185
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and he crashed, and that he was in that airplane crash?

1186
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, did he die? Did he die? Oh? Wow?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm sorry wow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah no, no, I mean I didn't know him.

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Speaker 2: But as soon as you said that, I was like,

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oh yeah, yeah, something there, something in the weird thing

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is that there's another really even bigger airport next to

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a Midway airport or something, but nothing ever happens there. Right,

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that's right, yeah, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, we're going to try a switch. He has gone

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to sleep. We're going to try to do a commercial now,

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So while you're listening to Macaloney's militarys show here in

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the distance down the radio network. The whole gang is here.

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Plus Martin Willis is Buddy Jack talking about all kinds

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of stuff we usually don't talk about. So please stay tuned.

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We'll be right back after this.

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Speaker 1: My dad is a hero.

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conquering space? And where is the best place in the

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Speaker 12: And I just kept going on and on about myself.

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I'm taking a leak in the driveway. I know you'd

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like to talk to total stranger. The story has did

1235
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nothing to do with the Bruins game. It's what happened

1236
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with grandmother. I was wondering if those were sado masochism

1237
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straps or something. But I digress from what I don't know.

1238
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Speaker 15: Get into the beautiful mind of one one only on

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Speaker 2: Wow, we're back. Welcome back to the mccloney's The track's

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1242
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This is Mac maloney where we're recording live from the

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Stoma Galley Restaurant, fifty five Water Street, New Point. Messages,

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Eat Seafood, Great Hamburgers, Eat Steak and Cheese, Sammy Tammy,

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Great Angleman. Quite a show tonight, different kind of show.

1246
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The whole gang is here. But also for I guess

1247
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:10,079
we have Martin Willis, who is a very knowledgeable UFO

1248
01:06:10,199 --> 01:06:14,920
guy from podcast UFO is Buddy Jacks, engineer or whatever.

1249
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,199
We don't usually before I introduce everyone because you have

1250
01:06:20,320 --> 01:06:23,559
to leave soon. We don't usually get this in depth

1251
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:29,599
about this stuff. All right, the paradrama, but also different UFO.

1252
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You know sightings, what's going on?

1253
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:32,639
Speaker 1: You know.

1254
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:37,079
Speaker 2: Currently? Okay, so I'm gonna throw something to you before

1255
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:39,079
you have to go. All So, the skin Walk a

1256
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ranch complete fraud? Yes, yes, no, I.

1257
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Speaker 3: Say gray Area. I don't think it's complete fraud.

1258
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Speaker 2: But it can't be. It's either black or white. It

1259
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,239
either making it up, nothing is there or there is

1260
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something there. I think there's yet to prove it. But

1261
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they yet to prove it.

1262
01:06:59,559 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean there are people that argue

1263
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,519
they're science. You know, of course Travis Taylor, you know,

1264
01:07:05,679 --> 01:07:09,119
has I think three PhDs or whatever, but real smart guy.

1265
01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:12,440
But there are people that I know that are involved

1266
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,880
in science instruments and things like that, and they're thinking,

1267
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I don't know if that would work with what he's

1268
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:19,880
trying to do, you know, the type of stuff, right,

1269
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But but I think there's definitely something going on in

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that area. It's one of those spots where a lot

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of weird stuff happens.

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Speaker 2: Where is it?

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Speaker 3: Where is it exactly? It's in Utah, and it's uh

1274
01:07:31,679 --> 01:07:32,440
his Utah.

1275
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 2: Right close to any any base, any any because a

1276
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,599
lot of stuff happens. They've proved a lot of stuff

1277
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where stuff happens is seen or whatever around you know,

1278
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like military basis. Okay, And it might be they test

1279
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So it might be these people who are looking in

1280
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les pay absent to the military bases. You don't know,

1281
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but I just I've heard a lot about it before.

1282
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And I know there's money involves, which is a big

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know he's he's drank the kool aid for this place.

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Speaker 6: Wait a minute, we're talking George Knapp and Column Keller,

1285
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the original book Hunt for the skin Walker.

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Speaker 3: I read that incredible. There's a great book, and there's

1287
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a lot of weird stuff that you know, if they're

1288
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if they're telling the truth, a lot of weird stuff happened.

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Speaker 2: Let's see something in your punch there. I think that's

1290
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the problem.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, which I think Brandy and I had to

1292
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sip from that.

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Speaker 10: Kool aid as.

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Speaker 3: Definitely not drinking kool aid. I can tell you. Here's

1295
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the thing, though, A man down, man down.

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Speaker 2: If you had let's say you were the guy who

1297
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was in charge of information, director of information at the

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skin Walker ranch.

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Speaker 5: That would mean he'd be Dragon.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Dragon, Dragon's got an attitude. I now there's uh,

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what's that other guy's name? Real nice guy.

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Speaker 2: See, we don't get this. We never get into this

1303
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deep because it's nuts. But let me ask you this,

1304
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wouldn't you, at some point, because this is your job,

1305
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:12,760
come out with some kind of a report and say

1306
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we've found that this is it. This is the definitive

1307
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video of some monster showing up and you know, eating

1308
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our goats or you know what I mean, all the

1309
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stuff that they've claimed happens.

1310
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Speaker 3: There, well sized dog and you know, right, oh yeah

1311
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right right.

1312
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Speaker 2: And vanishing it and all that kind of stuff. Why

1313
01:09:30,760 --> 01:09:32,920
wouldn't you just come out and say here it is.

1314
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Convince everybody, have a video, have a scientific proof of it.

1315
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I mean only because it's been twenty years easily right.

1316
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Speaker 3: Well, they had that panel there. John Alexander was one

1317
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of the people on that panel.

1318
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Speaker 2: He's a fraud man. You used to have him on

1319
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our show all the time out there, Yeah, go ahead, good,

1320
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but he is and I can.

1321
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Speaker 3: But you know, they had that that that panel that

1322
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was there, and some strange things happen, and one of

1323
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the things, say, switch would know that if he's read

1324
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that book now. One of the things that they saw

1325
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they looked like kind of a portal opening in the thing,

1326
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crawling out of it and then walking away.

1327
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Speaker 2: You know, I mean it's a video, Yeah, I know.

1328
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Speaker 3: I mean that's what we say about everything. You know,

1329
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we don't have direct evidence of it, but there's a

1330
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lot of things that supposedly happened there to that family.

1331
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Things missing, the cameras all set up around the the

1332
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when that cattle mutilation happened. Looked like it got dropped

1333
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into a hole and the cameras failed, you know what

1334
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I mean, just weird.

1335
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Speaker 2: Why would they fail? You know? I mean it's conveniently failed.

1336
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Speaker 3: Well they did not want to.

1337
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Speaker 2: But they always do because about all of this stuff.

1338
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Speaker 6: And I'm sorry I tried to raise you better than.

1339
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Speaker 2: This, Brandy. Brandy, I'm gonna apologize to you first and

1340
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then shots fired. The thing is is that once we

1341
01:10:53,199 --> 01:10:56,039
said before, ninety percent of this is noise to green.

1342
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Speaker 3: It you mean to make the television show? Is that

1343
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what you're talking about.

1344
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Speaker 2: Is like it's either distraction or misinformation or people making

1345
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stuff up or whatever.

1346
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Speaker 3: I don't know if I call it ninety I think

1347
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some things happened there.

1348
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Speaker 2: But as you said before, I don't want you to

1349
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go on this. But you said, if we found out

1350
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with ufoson, it would be the greatest the paranormal, be

1351
01:11:23,159 --> 01:11:26,319
the greatest ever, right, I mean the greatest discovery in

1352
01:11:27,079 --> 01:11:30,479
mankind because it'd be like something not like us. Right,

1353
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,119
It'd be bigger than the moon learning. Right, if you

1354
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:37,800
found out, then if you are at this place that

1355
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,680
is like supposed to be wired for sion, wired for video,

1356
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,359
and they and the guy who bought it has a

1357
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lot of money, Yeah, well you know where is it?

1358
01:11:46,159 --> 01:11:49,720
Where's where's the proof? Mac? They have showed some some video,

1359
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But that would be the biggest Well why isn't it

1360
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the biggest story ever?

1361
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Speaker 6: Definitive because of their Robertson panel, because of the mentality people.

1362
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Speaker 2: If you went now, if you went to any news

1363
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:07,359
network now box, let's say, and you said, I have

1364
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a video of a monster coming out of a portal

1365
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:16,159
and it's definitive, that would be the one that's all

1366
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we hear about for a week.

1367
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Speaker 3: Well not now, not with AI. Now, if they proved it, right,

1368
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I proved it was an original from that.

1369
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Speaker 2: Would be the biggest story ever. I mean, a monsk

1370
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coming on with a portal that has never happened before,

1371
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So where is it? See? That's what I mean. That's

1372
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:37,560
it's almost in a way, they're doing what the government

1373
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:41,439
is doing. It's like teasing you. Now this happened, but

1374
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the camera shut off this you know, you need something,

1375
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:48,079
you know, for all those people we said that really

1376
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:52,079
love alien movies, you need you need the flying size

1377
01:12:52,119 --> 01:12:53,800
on landing on the White House lawn, you know what

1378
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,399
I mean? You need that receipt right and then and

1379
01:12:57,479 --> 01:13:01,720
then everything changes. I believe if that happens will never

1380
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:05,800
be the same. Right, they found definitive kind of micro

1381
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:10,680
wife on Mars recently. You know, it didn't really make

1382
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:12,520
a big splash, but if there was some kind of

1383
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:17,000
a UFO landing crash, well.

1384
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Speaker 3: You know you said, if we find out what these things,

1385
01:13:19,279 --> 01:13:21,439
it would be the biggest puzzle. I think the biggest

1386
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:26,479
puzzle would be intelligent life out there elsewhere. Not necessarily

1387
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:30,079
you know what a UFO is. But I think that's

1388
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:33,000
the big puzzle and the possibility.

1389
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Speaker 2: I'm not something came here that would be yeah.

1390
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Speaker 3: Something like the phrase, the catchphrase NHI non human intelligence

1391
01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,520
visiting us. If we could figure out what that was,

1392
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,319
then I do believe it would be a major thing.

1393
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think it would be the biggest thing. I

1394
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think is bigger than.

1395
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Speaker 3: The moon landing, because bigger than moonland.

1396
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Speaker 2: So listen, Mone's limit was waiting for him outside. We

1397
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,680
can hear the driving the engine. Well, I think both

1398
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of you guys, I say, Matt and Jack, so let's

1399
01:14:02,199 --> 01:14:05,680
clap phone. Well, sweeten that up and post afterwards if

1400
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:06,840
we did thank you.

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01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,199
Speaker 6: Glasses upside down, you know, like they like they do

1402
01:14:10,279 --> 01:14:13,199
a flag when when you're in stress distress.

1403
01:14:14,319 --> 01:14:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, it's enough, Yeah it is not, I guess,

1404
01:14:18,319 --> 01:14:20,359
So just plug your show again one more time.

1405
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:25,079
Speaker 3: It's podcast UFO dot com every Thursday. For some reason,

1406
01:14:25,159 --> 01:14:27,000
I decided to do it twice a week now. Jack

1407
01:14:27,079 --> 01:14:30,840
helps me with my YouTube channel. It's grown two hundred percent.

1408
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:34,800
So that's what Jack does. But so it's every Tuesday

1409
01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:38,000
at nine pm and every Thursday at eight pm. And

1410
01:14:38,079 --> 01:14:39,680
I don't know why I'm doing it twice a week.

1411
01:14:39,760 --> 01:14:44,079
Speaker 2: But that's a lot of work, is it? Two separate shows? Yeah? Yeah,

1412
01:14:44,079 --> 01:14:45,000
oh that's way too much.

1413
01:14:45,279 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, wait too, So are you your live when you're live? Yeah, yep,

1414
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:51,520
I go live here in an hour and.

1415
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 2: Oh you have to go to your show now. Okay,

1416
01:14:54,880 --> 01:14:58,600
all right, well let's clap them both well, thank you again.

1417
01:15:00,039 --> 01:15:00,680
Speaker 3: On our media.

1418
01:15:01,119 --> 01:15:03,520
Speaker 2: Thank you clapping for themselves. Just want to.

1419
01:15:05,159 --> 01:15:06,680
Speaker 3: Clapping for them to thank you.

1420
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:09,399
Speaker 5: Thank you Martin and Jack.

1421
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,119
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us come back.

1422
01:15:11,279 --> 01:15:13,039
Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, come back.

1423
01:15:13,159 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 3: I'll be gone for the rest of the year, but

1424
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:16,000
I'll come back when I'm back.

1425
01:15:16,119 --> 01:15:18,880
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, pay Bob Bell on the

1426
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:24,920
way out. Did you read that in your condra? Thank

1427
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:28,960
you a man? There he goes, Thanks thanks cool shirt

1428
01:15:29,079 --> 01:15:33,239
by the way, great Shrek, thank you mine, Thank you Jack.

1429
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:38,439
There we go. Well, wait, there we go special guests. Well,

1430
01:15:38,479 --> 01:15:41,560
here we are in the macaloney Military Show, Different show tonight.

1431
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,720
But listen, we still have a lot of time left,

1432
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:50,039
so you don't want to throw it to thank places

1433
01:15:50,039 --> 01:15:54,920
about moth Man, the Switchy, and then we'll go to Brandy.

1434
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,439
Are you ready for this? Switch? I feel bad like

1435
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:02,159
asking this because if let me introduce everyone, Well, first

1436
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:05,880
of all, Uncle as Uncle all in control hand for

1437
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:06,439
some reason.

1438
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:13,319
Speaker 4: Oh ma, hell everybody, I'm just hanging out, hanging back existing, existed, breathing,

1439
01:16:14,199 --> 01:16:15,399
changing oxygen.

1440
01:16:15,159 --> 01:16:20,079
Speaker 2: Switches here, Switchy, great to be here, Okay, different glasses

1441
01:16:20,159 --> 01:16:21,359
on the man of what he says.

1442
01:16:21,239 --> 01:16:23,119
Speaker 6: Except for that segment on the Skinwalker ranch.

1443
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:26,520
Speaker 2: But we won't listen. You have to put your big

1444
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,760
boy pants on. Realize there are a bunch of friuds.

1445
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,600
Uh club is here at club? Talk about the big

1446
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:34,760
boy pants, the cleaners.

1447
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:40,079
Speaker 8: Yeah, I put my underwear on upside down a good

1448
01:16:40,119 --> 01:16:43,119
life switch does with his glasses, you know, but I.

1449
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:45,600
Speaker 6: Hate to think what kind of distressed that sacrifice?

1450
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 2: Well, I'm enjoying this. It depends, It depends material perfect. No,

1451
01:16:56,119 --> 01:16:58,600
that's Max brand I think I think I stole that

1452
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:03,600
line from Switch Show. Also Susan, Kay, Susan, how are

1453
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:04,960
you cat free?

1454
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 5: I'm a great great show. I've heard his podcast before, so.

1455
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean see that's those guys know more of

1456
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,199
you know, they get so in depth and we don't

1457
01:17:18,239 --> 01:17:20,760
really get that in depth because I think it's kind

1458
01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:26,079
of in a way, you know. But yeah, good guy.

1459
01:17:26,239 --> 01:17:30,159
He does two shows a week. I can't. I can't

1460
01:17:30,199 --> 01:17:35,439
handle one show a Brandy X is awesome with us Brandy, Hi.

1461
01:17:35,399 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 7: Everybody, And I think your one show a week is fantastic.

1462
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god? Hang on? Can we go? This is

1463
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:47,520
this is like? This is not right?

1464
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:48,760
Speaker 9: Is that?

1465
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 2: Can't dancing?

1466
01:17:59,800 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 7: God?

1467
01:18:08,039 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 2: That such a thing is too much fun? Sure? Maybe not?

1468
01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:19,880
The nuns used to say that. Uh so anyway, listen,

1469
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,319
when do we do this? When we do this? Top

1470
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:29,119
ten questions to switch? Okay about moth Man, but I switched.

1471
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,359
I felt bad, you know when I told you we're

1472
01:18:31,359 --> 01:18:32,880
going to do this. But if you get them all wrong,

1473
01:18:33,159 --> 01:18:35,520
it's going to be really bad. And you can't get

1474
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:35,880
him wrong.

1475
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:38,640
Speaker 6: Come on, man, I'm the moth Man. Dude. He's not

1476
01:18:38,720 --> 01:18:41,039
going to come to me when they want to like

1477
01:18:41,159 --> 01:18:42,520
basic Mockman one o one.

1478
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:47,359
Speaker 5: Okay, he's the king of Mothman.

1479
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:56,600
Speaker 2: Ok let's see. Okay, there we go. We should have

1480
01:18:56,680 --> 01:19:00,840
some kind of intro for this, but bring this thing? Yeah, okay,

1481
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,079
where is that? At one?

1482
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:07,039
Speaker 6: How about the soundtrack to Martha.

1483
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:13,399
Speaker 2: That's Mathra, it's not Matha. What do you all right?

1484
01:19:13,439 --> 01:19:13,680
Here we go.

1485
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:14,680
Speaker 6: I don't speak Japanese.

1486
01:19:17,319 --> 01:19:17,520
Speaker 2: Cool.

1487
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 13: Yes, And now it's time for another story from the

1488
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:29,319
Lost Annals of the Paranormal. It's time for Steve Ward's

1489
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,560
report from the Fringe.

1490
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:43,159
Speaker 2: Wow. So tonight a lot of production than that bumper.

1491
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:48,079
Tonight we're doing actually going to turn the Tamason switch.

1492
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:53,760
Top ten questions for well Mathman for switch because this

1493
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,279
weekend is the big moth Man Festival. They're expecting the

1494
01:19:57,479 --> 01:20:01,680
twenty thousand people there. The switch will be on his toes.

1495
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,880
You're ready to switch? I'm ready wombed up? You're cool?

1496
01:20:05,720 --> 01:20:11,319
Oh yeah? Number one. In his nineteen seventy five book

1497
01:20:11,359 --> 01:20:15,920
The Mothman Prophecies, John Keo Your Hero, linked Mothman sightings

1498
01:20:16,680 --> 01:20:23,680
to what ancient mesopotam Vesopotanian entity often associated with prophecy.

1499
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:26,600
Speaker 6: And doom, the Garuda.

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: Hang on, it's about the little trace a lilith p

1501
01:20:34,319 --> 01:20:39,880
lamana c the tudu d anama.

1502
01:20:42,199 --> 01:20:42,720
Speaker 7: Uh d.

1503
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:46,680
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sorry what.

1504
01:20:48,760 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 5: It's lilith right.

1505
01:20:56,680 --> 01:20:57,199
Speaker 2: Latudu.

1506
01:20:59,399 --> 01:21:00,680
Speaker 6: Sorry he was frustrated.

1507
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Oh for one, this which you want

1508
01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:08,399
me to stop? Come on, okay, this is embarrassing, well

1509
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:13,159
not yet wow, okay. Number two. The first published mention

1510
01:21:13,399 --> 01:21:19,119
of Wathman appeared in The Point Pleasant Renderistan on November sixteenth,

1511
01:21:19,319 --> 01:21:25,199
nineteen sixty six, on the what headline. A couple see

1512
01:21:25,359 --> 01:21:30,439
man sized bird b the Birdman of Mason County. See

1513
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:35,039
the red eyed monster of terrorizes teens, d strange wing

1514
01:21:35,239 --> 01:21:37,239
beast stocks Point Pleasant.

1515
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:38,439
Speaker 6: I'll go and see.

1516
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:48,479
Speaker 2: Correct answers. A couple see man sized creature or something.

1517
01:21:49,399 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 8: I wasn't reading newspapers, you know, Mac, I think to

1518
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:57,600
save switch further embarrassed, just not just want to switch

1519
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,760
the topic. What he had for breakfast? Really, guys, just

1520
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:04,520
this is getting really bad, sad. It's only two questions

1521
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,680
at the time. I mean it's oero. For two, he's

1522
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:10,760
in the same territory as Mahomes. Come on, I'm sorry,

1523
01:22:11,279 --> 01:22:13,840
you know, and Mahomes is supposed to be the best quarterback.

1524
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:16,520
Speaker 2: And no he isn't listen a switch you want to continue,

1525
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:17,039
It's up to you.

1526
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:21,000
Speaker 6: Yes, let's let's let's continue with the chicken chip questions.

1527
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:25,680
Speaker 2: Thank you, man, I got to edit that out now.

1528
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:28,319
Speaker 6: Oh get what edit out? Chicken shit?

1529
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:32,680
Speaker 2: Okay, well thanks for saying twice. Okay, all right you bass?

1530
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:44,399
Did you ready? Number three? Oh? Noel Partridge, Salem, West

1531
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:49,680
Virginia reported his TV acting strangely before he saw red

1532
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:54,560
eyes outside. What exact term did he used to describe

1533
01:22:54,600 --> 01:23:02,079
the interference A snow b manding see a weird humming noise,

1534
01:23:03,399 --> 01:23:06,560
be like a fine weave of hay wire.

1535
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:10,079
Speaker 6: Well, I don't know. I'd have to have to guess

1536
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:12,239
on that one. See, but there's a couple of things

1537
01:23:12,279 --> 01:23:15,039
wrong with that. Well, he actually was misreported he did

1538
01:23:15,119 --> 01:23:19,359
not see eyes, he saw rotating red lights. And his

1539
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:22,960
name wasn't Newell, it was Myrtle, it was it was

1540
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:27,640
misspelled on his birth certificate as Newell.

1541
01:23:28,960 --> 01:23:31,319
Speaker 8: All right, he's calling it fake news.

1542
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:35,079
Speaker 2: That's it's like Michigan. As answered the question, will you

1543
01:23:35,159 --> 01:23:41,039
switchy repeated? See weird?

1544
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 6: I mean, who would know.

1545
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 7: This?

1546
01:23:46,119 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 13: Embarrassed?

1547
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,039
Speaker 6: I think he think he was actually listening to macmloney's

1548
01:23:50,079 --> 01:23:50,840
Military X File.

1549
01:23:51,039 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: Okay, A two switch. Thank you. It was like a

1550
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:56,760
fine weave of hay wire.

1551
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:01,840
Speaker 6: He said, I actually saw speak in two thousand and

1552
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:03,840
uh six.

1553
01:24:04,119 --> 01:24:08,760
Speaker 2: You should have paid more attention. All right, number four child,

1554
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:10,039
we go on. Switch. It's up to you.

1555
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 6: Yes, let's go on with these CS questions.

1556
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,039
Speaker 2: Brandy, is this is this too sad yet? Tell us

1557
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:16,560
it's not.

1558
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 7: But I'm going to tell you this is hard. I

1559
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,479
don't know all that about moth Man, but I haven't

1560
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,520
gotten one right in my own he's.

1561
01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:25,319
Speaker 2: The moth Man guy.

1562
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,079
Speaker 6: He's for the little chicken ship stuff. You go for

1563
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:32,560
the broader again with that again.

1564
01:24:34,039 --> 01:24:37,039
Speaker 2: He turns it against this. Let's see what happens, right,

1565
01:24:38,279 --> 01:24:41,960
Susan Chew. We go on, Susan, you have the she's

1566
01:24:42,000 --> 01:24:47,520
getting a big thumb. Little John Number four Mary Mary

1567
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,920
High with an odd name that would be a journalist

1568
01:24:54,399 --> 01:24:58,960
for the Athens Messenger recorded strange dreams before the Silver

1569
01:24:59,119 --> 01:25:04,119
Bridge lapse. What was unusual about them? Okay, so the

1570
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:07,239
civil Bird, the Silver Bridge collapse, at the kind of

1571
01:25:07,319 --> 01:25:10,319
height of the Mothmand sightings, a lot of people kind of.

1572
01:25:10,319 --> 01:25:12,600
Speaker 6: Came well, not actually it was more towards the end

1573
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:15,520
and more toward the end. Actually, thirteen months of the day.

1574
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,039
Well that the Scarberry's of the Mallans had that first

1575
01:25:18,079 --> 01:25:21,239
sighting on November fifteenth, nineteen sixty six. It was a

1576
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,800
December fifteenth, nineteen sixty seven that the Silver Bridge collapsed

1577
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:27,920
with forty six people dying.

1578
01:25:28,039 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: Well, what's going on out there? All right? So anyway,

1579
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:35,880
Mary said that she had strange dreams before the bridge collapse.

1580
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:39,880
What was unusual about the dreams? A they all involved

1581
01:25:40,119 --> 01:25:40,880
floods and people.

1582
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,039
Speaker 6: They were like Christmas packages floating on the water.

1583
01:25:44,479 --> 01:25:46,880
Speaker 2: I'm going to give the four uh the four months.

1584
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:53,079
One question is switchy, That's what it was. They all

1585
01:25:53,159 --> 01:25:56,680
involved floods and people. She dreamed of Christmas packages on

1586
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:00,840
the water. See she saw the bridge collapsing. They were

1587
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:03,840
accompanied by men in black standing in her room.

1588
01:26:04,720 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 6: No, well, no other people had met in black images

1589
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:09,039
in the room.

1590
01:26:09,479 --> 01:26:09,880
Speaker 2: She did not.

1591
01:26:10,079 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 6: Nobody saw the bridge collapsing go ahead. There were prophecies,

1592
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:16,800
but they thought A keel thought based on what a

1593
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,079
lot of these sign of contact he's were saying. He

1594
01:26:19,279 --> 01:26:24,560
thought that A was there a plant, a factory.

1595
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:27,760
Speaker 2: Two hour show? Switchy, what's your ansign?

1596
01:26:30,039 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 6: Christmas packages?

1597
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 2: He got one rights by time you got it right,

1598
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:38,840
you got not today?

1599
01:26:39,039 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 5: Number thirty seven?

1600
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 2: Who number five? Which? Ohio time across the river from

1601
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,359
point Pleasant also reported heavy wath Man activity in UFO

1602
01:26:54,520 --> 01:27:05,399
activity during nineteen sixty six to sixty seven A. Portsmouth, B, Galopolis, C. Marietta,

1603
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:07,199
d Iron Town.

1604
01:27:08,399 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 6: Well, a lot of talents did, but it was Gallipolis.

1605
01:27:12,880 --> 01:27:14,159
A lot of people mispronounced that.

1606
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Two two, no, two and three. But you okay, you're

1607
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:26,640
feeling all right.

1608
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go. I'm waiting for a good question. Oh hey, listen,

1609
01:27:36,199 --> 01:27:38,920
the listeners are loving this, are they really?

1610
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:43,239
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, here we go. I mean between number six.

1611
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:49,000
In addition to glowing eyes, what bi is our physical effect?

1612
01:27:49,399 --> 01:27:53,439
Did witnesses say they felt when marth Man looked at them?

1613
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,800
In addition of glowing eyes? What biz our physical effect?

1614
01:27:59,760 --> 01:27:59,960
Speaker 8: Please?

1615
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:05,199
Speaker 2: In addition to glowing eyes, what bizarre physical effect did

1616
01:28:05,279 --> 01:28:09,359
witnesses say they felt when Mathman was looking at them?

1617
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:13,680
A temporary can I can I go through the floor?

1618
01:28:15,119 --> 01:28:20,239
A temporary blindness, B sudden paralysis, see a sense of

1619
01:28:20,359 --> 01:28:25,279
hypnotic fear, A dizziness, the A burning sensation.

1620
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:34,359
Speaker 6: Paralysis in some cases, I'm sorry.

1621
01:28:34,279 --> 01:28:39,359
Speaker 2: But a sense of hypnotic fear or dizziness take get

1622
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:39,920
every show.

1623
01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:41,720
Speaker 6: Oh that was because of me.

1624
01:28:42,119 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 5: Okay, And I'm pretty sure the burning sensation had nothing.

1625
01:28:45,479 --> 01:28:48,279
Speaker 2: To do nothing to do with it, probably had exactly.

1626
01:28:48,199 --> 01:28:49,520
Speaker 6: Something they picked up in Tijuana.

1627
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:54,560
Speaker 2: I think that's offensive. Switches all right, number seven? Ready,

1628
01:28:54,680 --> 01:28:55,119
should we go?

1629
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:55,319
Speaker 10: One?

1630
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:55,720
Speaker 2: Switch?

1631
01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:56,840
Speaker 6: Go ahead?

1632
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 2: Okay. Keel noted your for reports during the moth Man

1633
01:29:02,039 --> 01:29:08,319
era often featured box like objects. He connected these to

1634
01:29:08,399 --> 01:29:15,399
what Cold War technologies A stealth bombers, B satellite civilians platforms,

1635
01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:21,359
see early drone prototypes, D radar jimmy devices.

1636
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:30,319
Speaker 6: Have no idea A Yeah, well I said, hey, maybe,

1637
01:29:30,520 --> 01:29:32,199
but said maybe B C or D.

1638
01:29:34,119 --> 01:29:39,199
Speaker 2: B satellite saviillance. Okay, switch, I don't know. We got

1639
01:29:39,319 --> 01:29:42,399
like three more you want to I don't know.

1640
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,119
Speaker 6: I'm still waiting for a good question.

1641
01:29:44,399 --> 01:29:49,399
Speaker 2: Well you know, it's what about those red sox? I

1642
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:55,359
was just gonna say the it's a disappointment. Well, well

1643
01:29:55,399 --> 01:29:58,039
he's got a couple, right, but it's not really expert

1644
01:29:58,239 --> 01:30:01,079
territory there, switching sho, I gave you.

1645
01:30:01,119 --> 01:30:04,520
Speaker 6: Some expert commentary correcting some of your questions.

1646
01:30:05,279 --> 01:30:07,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, see he's that kind of guy.

1647
01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 4: Now, were these questions generated by AI they were okay,

1648
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:12,159
well there you go.

1649
01:30:12,319 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 2: Switch.

1650
01:30:13,079 --> 01:30:19,079
Speaker 8: Oh good God, don't defend him now.

1651
01:30:19,079 --> 01:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Yeah right, really wait too late for that. Okay, let

1652
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,359
them let them get down with this. Let him go

1653
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:32,199
down ship. You should okay. Number eight the Silver Bridges

1654
01:30:32,279 --> 01:30:38,000
I collapsed on December nineteen sixty seven was a suspension

1655
01:30:38,119 --> 01:30:41,880
bridge of what specific design? Here we go. The Silver

1656
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:46,960
Bridges that collapsed in December sixty seven was of suspension

1657
01:30:47,039 --> 01:30:50,960
bridge of what specific design? I mean, it's tragic, but

1658
01:30:52,119 --> 01:30:55,239
this bridge collapsed at the height of Christmas season. A

1659
01:30:55,279 --> 01:30:58,239
lot of people watch some wives and people connect that

1660
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:05,159
with the watman sighting. So switch cable stayed b I

1661
01:31:05,880 --> 01:31:10,960
by chained suspension see can leave a trust? Wow? The

1662
01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:16,960
wile Warren Trush will trust he plays in Miami. Dun'ty

1663
01:31:17,079 --> 01:31:17,680
Warren trust.

1664
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say eyebar because it couldn't.

1665
01:31:20,640 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 2: Be the legos switchy, You're right, it was a eyebo

1666
01:31:28,399 --> 01:31:36,399
chain suspension bridge. Number nine, Wow, okay, only because.

1667
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 6: Mean on my phone, robots doing max work for it?

1668
01:31:42,199 --> 01:31:42,520
What what?

1669
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:42,720
Speaker 9: What?

1670
01:31:42,920 --> 01:31:43,119
Speaker 7: What? What?

1671
01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:46,560
Speaker 2: They came up with good questions. You just can't. They

1672
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:50,800
came up with, Okay, switch, it's okay, switch.

1673
01:31:51,199 --> 01:31:53,640
Speaker 6: Let's talk about close encounters of the third kind again.

1674
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:58,760
Speaker 2: That sucking movie. Yeah, all right, number nine? What which folklorist?

1675
01:31:59,840 --> 01:32:04,239
I argued that the month Man legend reflected Cold War

1676
01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:09,920
anxieties and a quote wave of monster lore? Wow? What

1677
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:14,279
Folklore's argued that the month Man legend reflect the Cold

1678
01:32:14,359 --> 01:32:19,199
War anxieties and a wave of monster law. A. Lauren Coleman, B,

1679
01:32:19,840 --> 01:32:28,880
John Harold Broomwald, uh C Jeffrey DB's cow d uncle,

1680
01:32:29,119 --> 01:32:34,760
Al go ahead, please, uh.

1681
01:32:35,239 --> 01:32:45,960
Speaker 6: Arnold Stang, Jan Harold. I'm assuming he was in therapy.

1682
01:32:48,119 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 8: For self described Yes, this is really I got as

1683
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:56,760
many as he got. How many amateurs you didn't get?

1684
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,039
Speaker 6: Crap? Don't give me that?

1685
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,000
Speaker 2: Wow? Okay?

1686
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 8: If you were asked me, I would should have text

1687
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:04,119
me and I would have given you the answer.

1688
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:11,079
Speaker 2: All right, number ten? Number ten? Or at the end

1689
01:33:11,119 --> 01:33:16,159
of this John Keel used the term ultra terrestrials and

1690
01:33:16,359 --> 01:33:22,039
his private notes. How did he define them differently from

1691
01:33:22,319 --> 01:33:27,800
regular sterrestrials? Right? Ready, here we go. A. Altraterrestrials came

1692
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:33,039
from parallel dimensions, not out of space. B. They would

1693
01:33:33,079 --> 01:33:37,680
divine beings mistaken for aliens. Interesting Brandy.

1694
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:38,840
Speaker 7: C.

1695
01:33:39,319 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 2: There were time travelers from Earth's future. B there were

1696
01:33:43,079 --> 01:33:46,119
psychic projections created by human fear.

1697
01:33:51,359 --> 01:33:56,520
Speaker 6: Elements of one the A are correct, they're actually that.

1698
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:00,600
The last one has some suggestion of what he was

1699
01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:02,880
calling an altar terrestrial. What he was trying to do

1700
01:34:03,159 --> 01:34:07,520
is get away from the extraterrestrial ideas going around. They

1701
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,720
thought they were actual condition of the place.

1702
01:34:10,319 --> 01:34:18,479
Speaker 2: The spot almost actually sorry, switches right, switching, it's what

1703
01:34:19,039 --> 01:34:24,439
you're right, Okay. I mean the idea that they might

1704
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:28,359
be from not green men from OS, but from someone

1705
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,640
of the dimension really makes more sense now.

1706
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 6: But also the last one, when he talks about fear,

1707
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:37,680
he talked a lot about paranormal mimicry and that we

1708
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:40,239
kind of co created some of these things and thought

1709
01:34:40,239 --> 01:34:42,720
there was a very negative aspect to a lot of this.

1710
01:34:43,279 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 2: Well, I'll say, what when don't we give like a

1711
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:57,399
lukewarm a class of four for ten four? Yeah, he

1712
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,399
cast the two of them. Okay, all right, I want

1713
01:35:00,439 --> 01:35:00,840
I want to.

1714
01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:05,720
Speaker 6: See club get a sports quiz from that that saying ai, uh,

1715
01:35:06,039 --> 01:35:07,520
you know automaton.

1716
01:35:07,279 --> 01:35:13,640
Speaker 2: Next week, don't pile on me, just can you crash switch?

1717
01:35:14,680 --> 01:35:17,720
So anyway, hey, listen, you listen your mac Maloney's military

1718
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:21,159
song showing the Thunder Radio Network. I'm not going to

1719
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:23,159
take a break out of a while because I don't

1720
01:35:23,159 --> 01:35:25,119
want to. I don't need the stress of the drama.

1721
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,640
So why don't we just switch it if we can

1722
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:33,439
switch it very quickly over to Brandy Sous, We'll do

1723
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:38,800
this if you know what I mean. Okay, Brandy, So

1724
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:41,199
you have a report tonight and just pretend there's a

1725
01:35:41,239 --> 01:35:46,399
bumper here for Brandy. That's want to kind of a bumper.

1726
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:51,880
That would be a Brandy, very glamorous Brandy tonight. So

1727
01:35:52,159 --> 01:35:54,159
your report is on.

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01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:59,720
Speaker 7: It is on shape shifting and how it relates to

1729
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,239
religion and belief systems.

1730
01:36:04,199 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Interesting that before that, in that in the which you

1731
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:14,279
got disaster there, but someone said that ultra terrestrials might

1732
01:36:14,359 --> 01:36:19,239
be mistaken for religious figures, and you know, we talked

1733
01:36:19,239 --> 01:36:23,960
about that a lot. It's like why sometimes they intersect,

1734
01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:28,000
you know, the intersect like weird paranormal stuff and religious stuff,

1735
01:36:28,640 --> 01:36:34,880
people appearing ghosts. Whatever, go ahead, Brandon. I'm just both

1736
01:36:35,319 --> 01:36:42,399
al and I are just what's the weather speaks here

1737
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,439
appearance tonight?

1738
01:36:47,239 --> 01:36:53,079
Speaker 7: Okay, Well for the resources I used tonight, we're really good.

1739
01:36:53,159 --> 01:36:56,760
In depth article from Encyclopedia dot com, the book Shape Shifters,

1740
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:01,000
a History by John Katsuba heavily managed that, an article

1741
01:37:01,079 --> 01:37:04,159
by Paul M. Davidson called Jesus the shape Shifter in

1742
01:37:04,239 --> 01:37:08,479
early Christian tradition, the Harvard Library Online, and several TED

1743
01:37:08,560 --> 01:37:16,920
talks given by quantum physicist Shoshini Ghosts. So Encyclopedia dot

1744
01:37:16,960 --> 01:37:21,079
com defines shape shifting as the alteration in form, or

1745
01:37:21,159 --> 01:37:26,359
substance of any animate object, and heavenlymana dot Net equates

1746
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:31,159
shape shifting with the term metamorphosis, which it defines as

1747
01:37:31,319 --> 01:37:35,600
a change of physical form, structure, or substance, especially by

1748
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:40,039
supernatural means. And it goes on to describe a site

1749
01:37:40,159 --> 01:37:45,439
a striking alteration in appearance and or character. And so

1750
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:48,800
this report is going to focus on the shape shifting

1751
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,159
that occurs when a person transforms their physical form or

1752
01:37:52,279 --> 01:37:56,880
consciousness into the physical form or consciousness of something else.

1753
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:02,079
And there are examples of this throughout history and across

1754
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:06,039
all cultures and within many religions. And to show that

1755
01:38:06,199 --> 01:38:09,800
this isn't just a woo woo or fringe kind of

1756
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:14,079
one off paranormal event, we're going to talk about some

1757
01:38:14,239 --> 01:38:18,079
examples of shape shifting within a number of context and

1758
01:38:18,199 --> 01:38:19,039
belief systems.

1759
01:38:19,159 --> 01:38:21,119
Speaker 2: So what does shape shifting mean.

1760
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:29,840
Speaker 7: It is altering a form or substance into another form

1761
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,439
or substance or consciousness.

1762
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:35,760
Speaker 2: So Susan Kay's cat shape shifted into a dog. Is

1763
01:38:35,800 --> 01:38:36,680
that a good example?

1764
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 7: Yeah, that would be a good one.

1765
01:38:40,920 --> 01:38:41,840
Speaker 2: Please brand it God.

1766
01:38:45,079 --> 01:38:51,159
Speaker 7: So one of the most common shape shifting that everybody's

1767
01:38:51,239 --> 01:38:56,399
familiar with is We're Wolves, where a man will shape

1768
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:01,439
shift into a wolfram And there's a subtle difference between

1769
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,760
that and actually the shape shifting that we're talking about here.

1770
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,840
So I'm not going to talk about werewolves, but i

1771
01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:11,319
just wanted to bring that up, as you know, everybody's

1772
01:39:11,399 --> 01:39:16,840
familiar with shape shifting if they're familiar with were wolves. Yes, right, Okay,

1773
01:39:17,039 --> 01:39:20,960
So within the stories of shape shifting in a religious context,

1774
01:39:21,279 --> 01:39:25,079
there seem to be two main types under which all

1775
01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:28,520
shape shifting falls, and the first is where the shape

1776
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:33,399
shift is due to some kind of blessing or enlightenment

1777
01:39:33,880 --> 01:39:38,840
or to be helpful to humanity, and the second is

1778
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:43,039
where the shape shift has a nefarious purpose or is

1779
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:48,720
given out as a punishment. Okay, So across different belief

1780
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,079
systems there are examples of shape shifting, and I'm going

1781
01:39:52,159 --> 01:39:58,920
to list a few. One is the ancient Celtic belief

1782
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:04,119
system where there are selkies, which are shape shifters that

1783
01:40:04,479 --> 01:40:08,720
are seals that transform into humans and.

1784
01:40:11,079 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 2: In the ocean.

1785
01:40:12,560 --> 01:40:19,000
Speaker 7: Yes, and their legends say that the seals are seals

1786
01:40:19,039 --> 01:40:21,279
in the water, and then they can come up on

1787
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:25,479
shore remove their pelt, and underneath they're a beautiful and

1788
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:30,640
seductive either man or woman, and that they to go

1789
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:32,920
back into the water. They just put their pelt back

1790
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,079
on and they become a seal. And this is kind

1791
01:40:36,119 --> 01:40:42,079
of like a a creature that then crosses too, kinds

1792
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:49,319
of two spaces, you know, in in our universe, the

1793
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,960
land and the water, so it's kind of like a

1794
01:40:52,039 --> 01:40:52,640
go between.

1795
01:40:54,279 --> 01:40:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah.

1796
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:01,359
Speaker 7: So in the Greek and Roman antheon of gods, just

1797
01:41:01,439 --> 01:41:06,920
about every god either shape shifted themselves or someone else

1798
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:13,520
for you know, whatever reason, including conquest, escaping as a

1799
01:41:13,600 --> 01:41:17,720
form of punishment, or to grant someone immortality. And a

1800
01:41:17,800 --> 01:41:21,880
couple examples that are more familiar to people are Zeus

1801
01:41:22,079 --> 01:41:26,600
changing himself into different animals in order to entice various women,

1802
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:29,159
or Athena, who's.

1803
01:41:29,039 --> 01:41:30,279
Speaker 2: A weird way to pick up here.

1804
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:39,119
Speaker 7: Athena changed Eracney into a spider, or Narcissus becoming a

1805
01:41:39,239 --> 01:41:45,159
flower because he was so enthralled with himself. And you know,

1806
01:41:45,359 --> 01:41:50,239
the ancient Greek and Roman legends are mythology to us,

1807
01:41:50,319 --> 01:41:53,279
but that was actually their religion. To them, they believed

1808
01:41:53,359 --> 01:41:55,600
this was actually fun happening.

1809
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:59,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny because they have mythology was their religion.

1810
01:41:59,239 --> 01:41:59,600
You're right.

1811
01:42:03,239 --> 01:42:07,239
Speaker 7: In Native American belief there are skin walkers, which are

1812
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:12,800
a Navajo entity that are actually human witches that can

1813
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:18,239
intentionally transform themselves into animals through wearing the skin of

1814
01:42:18,359 --> 01:42:22,479
that animal, and they do this in order to curse

1815
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:26,920
or harm others and their thought of as evil. Typically

1816
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:29,600
they're not spoken of because to speak of it will

1817
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:34,319
invoke it. And there are legends among other Native American

1818
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:39,119
nations of people transforming into animals or vice versa, often

1819
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:43,479
to benefit people. And one of the more familiar legends

1820
01:42:43,840 --> 01:42:48,239
is the Lakota Siou's white buffalo calf woman, who is

1821
01:42:48,600 --> 01:42:55,680
actually I think the equivalent to Woden or Mercury. She

1822
01:42:55,880 --> 01:43:00,359
brought knowledge and sacred wisdom to the people must to

1823
01:43:00,439 --> 01:43:03,119
return in the form of a white buffalo calf to

1824
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:07,359
fulfill her prophecy of earth changes that will happen in

1825
01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:07,920
the future.

1826
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:13,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's interesting. I saw a bee costume yesterday.

1827
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:20,079
You were transformed. It was me.

1828
01:43:22,399 --> 01:43:26,680
Speaker 9: And I may interject right there, sorry, but of course

1829
01:43:27,399 --> 01:43:30,880
women bring knowledge and wisdom to the show.

1830
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:33,279
Speaker 2: You just want to plant that out, thank you. Absolutely,

1831
01:43:35,560 --> 01:43:40,680
everyone else is just the right, okay, please.

1832
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:47,760
Speaker 7: In Mesoamerican, Aztec, and Mayan religion, the Shamans were said

1833
01:43:47,800 --> 01:43:50,479
to have the ability to shape shift into jaguars in

1834
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:54,439
order to travel between the natural and supernatural worlds, which

1835
01:43:54,560 --> 01:43:57,439
a lot of cats are supposed to be able to do.

1836
01:43:57,880 --> 01:43:59,880
Speaker 2: Cats. Do you say cats?

1837
01:44:00,520 --> 01:44:04,880
Speaker 7: I did, Yeah, that's why witches have cats. That's familiar.

1838
01:44:05,199 --> 01:44:07,199
Speaker 2: Oh they don't have dogs.

1839
01:44:09,399 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 7: Go between Yeah, like.

1840
01:44:10,960 --> 01:44:12,279
Speaker 5: A familiar Yeah.

1841
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:16,840
Speaker 7: And in Christianity, believe it or not, the Bible has

1842
01:44:17,119 --> 01:44:21,800
numerous incidents of shape shifting, including Moses' staff and the

1843
01:44:22,039 --> 01:44:26,600
staff of the Egyptians turning into snakes, Jesus turning water

1844
01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:30,600
into wine, Satan appearing as the serpent in the Garden

1845
01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:35,199
of Eden, and lots of cases where angels are disguised

1846
01:44:35,239 --> 01:44:39,479
as humans. And there are New Testament references to Jesus

1847
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:44,880
himself shape shifting such as appearing at the same moment

1848
01:44:45,319 --> 01:44:48,760
to James as a child and to John as a

1849
01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:53,399
young man. Each saw him differently, and later again when

1850
01:44:53,439 --> 01:44:56,640
they had a shared sighting, James saw a young man

1851
01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,560
with a scruffy beard and John saw an older man

1852
01:44:59,720 --> 01:45:03,479
who was bald with a full beard. And also during

1853
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:08,920
the transfiguration, Jesus metamorphosed as a light being to Peter,

1854
01:45:09,159 --> 01:45:13,479
James and John, and actually the entire resurrection can be

1855
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,960
seen as a shape shifting experience from a human form

1856
01:45:17,279 --> 01:45:20,800
into a higher consciousness, heavenly being.

1857
01:45:23,800 --> 01:45:28,319
Speaker 2: And I just want to say, Jesus interesting guy, right.

1858
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Es First of all, he is Swim's body. He always

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looks good, you know, and he looks like he worked

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out whatever. But you know, he was so into healing.

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I read this book called Jesus before Christianity that his

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house had an open roof and he would bring people in.

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They would bring people in who are bedridden. They couldn't

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get him in the door, so they rise them up,

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raise them up, and then lower them into his house.

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And that's how much he was into.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 2: The thing about Jesus was, whoever he was, his effect

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is still on us, you know what I mean. The

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year that we are in is because of BC Jesus,

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you know, when he was born or whatever. But he

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was the first guy who came out and said human

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life means something. Human life is something that isn't something

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you just you know, kill as an animal or whatever.

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That was his greatest thing to me, because we have

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a soul. Right he was Paris and to kind of say,

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you know, we're we're not animals, we're human beings. God

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more or less, go ahead, please, Brennan.

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Speaker 7: In Islam, the gin are spiritual beings, and the Kuran

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actually contains a whole chapter about them. They are similar

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to angels or supernatural humans, and they can inhabit any form,

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and they can choose to be whatever form they want,

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and they can be either benevolent or malevolent, whichever they choose.

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In Eastern religions, especially Hinduism and Buddhism, the belief in

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reincarnation is prevalent, and reincarnation is in itself an aspect

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of shape shifting, because the soul receives a new form

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with every incarnation. The ancient Taoist philosopher Hangzhou wrote that

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a being's spiritual goal is to quote ride on the

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flow of heaven and Earth and the transformation of the

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six elements and wander in the infinite, and that would

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make that being an eternal shape shifter. In Hinduism, the

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whole world is viewed as a shape shifter because the

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whole world only exists as a dream of God, and

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so therefore it's an illusion where you don't really even

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know what's true or false, and everything's always malleable.

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Speaker 2: So they who is it? The Hindus believe that we're

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all involved in the dream of God. That's it. Yes,

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I love that. I love that philosophy. I would love

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to be nothing but the dream of God. Right, so

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you should win every race, you could win in every bet, right,

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01:48:23,159 --> 01:48:28,039
every football. But why would he dream? Now, I'm looking

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at you like you're talking gambling to me. I'm sorry, Brandy.

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Speaker 7: Police, Okay. In Buddhism, the maras are evil spirits who

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can shape shift into anything to present themselves as obstacles

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to everyone else who's on the path to enlightenment. And

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the mars can even change into Buddhas in order to

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trick people and throw them off of their spiritual paths.

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It's just a I guess, better school for your enlightenment.

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So in my research, I came across a Harvard Divinity

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School master thesis by this student named Rebecca Carroll, and

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it's called shape Shifting, a Practical Guide, and in it

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she explains how shape shifting is both the cause and

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the outcome of a shift in consciousness and when we

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shift our consciousness perception of ourself to include all of creation,

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knowing that our thoughts and perceptions determine that creation. Kind

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of like what John Keele had to say, switch, we

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come to know that we can theoretically be anything at

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any given moment. And this actually fits well with what

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I witnessed the couple of times that I saw somebody,

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for lack of a better term, shape shift, and I

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feel like I was actually seeing someone lower their consciousness

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in one incident and raise it, Okay, there were two

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and a half incidents. The first one was it was

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an election year and there was a candidate that was

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being interviewed by a major journalist and they were like

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in a living room setting, so it was, you know,

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real comfortable, and I was kind of half watching and

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mostly listening. But at one point when I looked up

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to the TV, I was, you know, watching the candidate

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answer the question, and then as I looked away, the

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candidate was sitting in the chair in a really strange position,

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and all of a sudden, like all of this happened

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in a split second. It's going to take me way

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longer to say it than it took to happen. But

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this shimmery, like the candidate had this shimmer and then

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I promise I'm not insane, but there was like a

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a reptile. Yes, yes, yes, well its second flash and

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then this shimmer and the candidate was back to their

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normal self, and I was like, you know, I blinked

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and looked back and it was gone. But it was

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kind of like, what did I just see there? I've

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seen that before it was even into any of this.

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Speaker 2: Me too, I've seen that on Red Sox games. Seriously,

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you look at the guy and he turns into reptile

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and he grounds out and go ahead, please okay, they

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don't sorry, do you.

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Speaker 7: Want me to even to tell the next example?

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Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, yes, please listen. So so you saw that,

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say you're on TV. He's on TV, and he changed

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his appearance on TV to you. You think he changed

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his appearance to.

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Speaker 7: No, because I asked people after that, did you see that,

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you know, the like in the next days or whatever,

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and nobody did. And so part of after I get through,

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you know, telling about these incidents, you know, part of

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my thinking was that maybe, like Switchy says with John Keele,

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maybe you know, we we have to be on the

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right wavelength to to coordinate with what they're throwing off.

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I don't know, and yeah, or maybe it's you know

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how two people can be standing looking in the sky

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and one sees ufo and the other one sees a Yeah,

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you know, you're just not maybe tuned in or I mean,

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and I'm telling you it was like a fraction of

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a second that it took, but I know something happened that.

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So the next example, this was, you know, a long

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time after that, I was sitting and talking with a

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friend of mine in the middle of the day in

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a regular room with natural lighting, and my friend like

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shimmered and I promise there was an Egyptian pharaoh or

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priest or something sitting in front of me for a

1971
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split second and then like blinked back into.

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Speaker 2: Their female friend or a male friend.

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Speaker 7: It was a male friend.

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Speaker 2: Wow, and he turned into a pharaoh yeah, but he.

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Speaker 7: Had he had no idea he did it. Like after that,

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I was like, oh my gosh, like I don't know

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what just happened here, And he was completely clueless. So

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it wasn't like just like that candidate on TV. You know,

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maybe people don't realize they're doing this, or maybe their

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consciousness is you know, like lowering itself in the in

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the example of the reptile, you know, just enough that

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it was caught to you know, scene, or maybe in

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this case, you know, without realizing it. My friend was

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raising his consciousness without even realizing it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, can I throw something in there real quick,

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something in him real quick? How about this? Right? I've

1987
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never seen whatever that movie is. But the fact that

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we might be in some kind of a program, you

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know what I mean, we're in something like a program

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and the matrix the matrix, right, and everyone every once

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in a while there's a glitch in the program. Possibly yeah,

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I mean, and it's nothing, you know what I mean.

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It's like, that's what's happening, and I should see the movie.

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But like I remember, like someone we had some we

1995
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interviewed some guy. He said, when you see a wave crash, right,

1996
01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,199
all that action. What is that going on?

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Speaker 10: You know?

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Speaker 2: What is is that in your head? You really see it?

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Or is it just like some kind of program thing

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Quintin's Is it blips in the program? Maybe? Right? I

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mean not anyway.

2002
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Speaker 8: You know, I just interrupted with you talked about reptilians. Yes,

2003
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I don't know if you remember that woman who used

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to be on a lot of the radio shows, the

2005
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:22,640
paranormal shows. She was abducted by, you know, reptilians. Yes,

2006
01:55:23,359 --> 01:55:25,479
and she said that was the best sex she ever had.

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Speaker 2: Please Brandy, go ahead, all right.

2008
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Speaker 7: The last incident that I was involved in is just recently.

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I was speaking with somebody and the person started to

2010
01:55:48,119 --> 01:55:54,159
do that shimmer and I like stopped myself and thought,

2011
01:55:54,359 --> 01:55:57,439
actually consciously thought, oh my gosh, this person's going to

2012
01:55:57,479 --> 01:55:59,600
shape shift, you know, just it was a split second

2013
01:55:59,720 --> 01:56:01,560
that I thought that. But as soon as I thought that,

2014
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it quit and and that person didn't shape shift. So

2015
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after that, I mean, that person has no idea what happened.

2016
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I haven't even said anything about it, but I thought,

2017
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is did I did my consciousness like stop myself from

2018
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moving into that person's consciousness so that I could see it?

2019
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

2020
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Speaker 7: But okay, so this Harvard's Harvard master's thesis, it really

2021
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:35,039
resonated with me because it talks about the shift of

2022
01:56:35,079 --> 01:56:39,840
consciousness and we don't know whether it's our shift, the

2023
01:56:39,960 --> 01:56:43,239
shift of the person shape shifting, or the shift of

2024
01:56:43,319 --> 01:56:47,640
the viewer or both. And there's a quantum physicist, I'm

2025
01:56:47,680 --> 01:56:51,880
wrapping it up. There's a quantum physicist named Shoshini Goes,

2026
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:57,600
and she explains shape shifting as a superpower inherent in

2027
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,760
all quantum particles. Nice, all quantum particles are shape shifters,

2028
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she said. And the superpower is quantum uncertainty. And it

2029
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refers to the behavior of quantum particles because none of

2030
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the quantum particles have a precise identity that can be

2031
01:57:15,039 --> 01:57:17,439
measured in all aspects simultaneously.

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Speaker 2: Right, yes, yes, So if you.

2033
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Speaker 7: Can measure the speed of a particle, you can't measure

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the size or weight or mass of it at the

2035
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same time. And if you can measure any one of

2036
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those other factors, you can't measure the others at the

2037
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same time, so it could be constantly in flux. So

2038
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we never know what the true properties of the quantum

2039
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particles are. And if those quantum particles are making up everything,

2040
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then we really never know what the true properties of

2041
01:57:49,680 --> 01:57:54,239
anything is. And that ties into this Master's thesis because

2042
01:57:54,479 --> 01:57:59,399
that author correlates the Buddhist teaching of expansion of perception

2043
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with shape shifting as either a way to raise consciousness

2044
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or a byproduct of raising consciousness, and she says that

2045
01:58:08,199 --> 01:58:12,720
Buddhist meditation, the whole point of it is to remove

2046
01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:17,439
the physical boundaries that you think define you and get

2047
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:20,560
into a state of consciousness where you feel fluid and

2048
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:24,840
interconnected to everything. And in this state there are no

2049
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:30,399
precise boundaries or true properties of anything, because you are

2050
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:34,279
moving through everything and into everything, and everything is moving

2051
01:58:34,520 --> 01:58:40,520
through and into you, and so everything's fluid, everything's malleable,

2052
01:58:40,640 --> 01:58:44,600
and your perception at any given moment will determine you

2053
01:58:45,159 --> 01:58:48,479
in that moment, and if there's a shift in perception,

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01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:54,000
it causes a shift in ourselves. And at any given moment,

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you could be another you, or anyone else could be you. Right,

2056
01:58:59,239 --> 01:59:02,039
And this is theoretical, but if it's proven, it would

2057
01:59:02,119 --> 01:59:06,399
explain the how and why beyond behind all the shape

2058
01:59:06,439 --> 01:59:09,680
shifting beliefs and reports.

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01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:15,760
Speaker 2: In the sub atomic world. Right the subatomic world, nothing

2060
01:59:16,079 --> 01:59:20,760
is solid right, everything is up to chance. So in

2061
01:59:20,880 --> 01:59:24,159
other words, so they would say that, you know, there's

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01:59:24,199 --> 01:59:26,680
a prick wrail right here, right, if you hit that,

2063
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:31,520
you're one trillion times you're going to break your hand,

2064
01:59:32,039 --> 01:59:35,680
But then one trillion times hand and go through it.

2065
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And it's just the perception. That's how it is around

2066
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us that things are solid, that these things happen. We

2067
01:59:44,039 --> 01:59:47,159
look like how we are and stuff like that. But

2068
01:59:48,479 --> 01:59:53,359
there is that one in trillion sent chance that it

2069
01:59:53,479 --> 01:59:57,600
isn't like that, you know, And maybe somehow that's how

2070
01:59:57,720 --> 02:00:01,840
shape shifted. Maybe that's how every thing works. Everything looks

2071
02:00:01,920 --> 02:00:05,960
weird to us. It's just isn't in that one trillium

2072
02:00:06,239 --> 02:00:12,000
you know. Wow, Brandy cool, very cool. I'm gonna just

2073
02:00:12,760 --> 02:00:14,920
to wrap it up. I'm gonna go around the board here.

2074
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I'm gonna switch, wake him up. Switch. If you could

2075
02:00:19,439 --> 02:00:22,119
shape shift into anything, what would it be.

2076
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Speaker 6: Mm hmm. It wouldn't be permanent?

2077
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Speaker 2: Right, Wow? What a question. No, let's say, no moth Man.

2078
02:00:36,479 --> 02:00:41,720
Why month Man's not real? Wow? Oh, this isn't a mission.

2079
02:00:43,479 --> 02:00:46,199
Speaker 7: Everything's real and unreal at the same.

2080
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Speaker 2: Time at the same time. Right, It depends on the chances.

2081
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Speaker 8: There goes the bigger audience this weekend. I know I

2082
02:00:52,600 --> 02:00:56,319
love where you lost them. Go ahead, Switch, What are

2083
02:00:56,319 --> 02:00:57,640
you gonna chance her into? Uh?

2084
02:00:59,359 --> 02:01:02,439
Speaker 2: Batwoman? Something?

2085
02:01:04,119 --> 02:01:08,199
Speaker 6: I get something lighter than air so I could float,

2086
02:01:08,319 --> 02:01:11,319
fly and move around, you know, and just hang out

2087
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in front of the drug store.

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Speaker 2: Okay, whatever that means? Okay, Switch Club, What would you

2089
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shape shift into? Tom Brady Repion?

2090
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Speaker 7: What did I have anything to do with the comment

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you made earlier?

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Speaker 2: Exactly? I won't lie, Susankay, what would you shave fift?

2093
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He wanted to say me, But Susan, okay, please tell us.

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I can't wait for that.

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Speaker 5: I'm with Switch.

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Speaker 9: If I was going to shape shift into something, I

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want to be able to fly, so i'd want to

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be able.

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Speaker 5: To hear people's conversations. And I think kind of Switch

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and I are kind of on the same.

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Speaker 2: Waveless soavesdrop in fi. Okay, Al, that's that's a ton

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be be be.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't want to be a he wants to be Rudy.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was going to say that, but

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I didn't get ridden every day.

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, because Rudy has a caliber life, you know,

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doesn't he well, he gets taken care of doesn't he

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and he you know, you know you look, I'm just saying.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Rudy, Rudy has a tough life, so Rudy the

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hunt would the hunt, said Susan Ryes. Every day sounds

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like a Pulley.

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Speaker 4: I didn't want to go that deep into it, but

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I figured, Brandy, what would you want to shape ship into?

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02:02:39,600 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 7: Whatever it was, it would be something that was a badass.

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I'm not sure, but something that was like I wouldn't

2116
02:02:47,600 --> 02:02:48,800
have to be afraid of.

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Speaker 2: Anything bad or whatever. He had one of those.

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02:02:52,920 --> 02:02:54,880
Speaker 7: Bad Wolverine Maybe I.

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Speaker 2: Was going to say wolverine because to worry about, yeah, bobcat,

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something like that, something.

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02:03:01,520 --> 02:03:04,279
Speaker 7: Bigger than that, something where you'd see it coming and run.

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Speaker 2: Cougar okay, dragon, Oh, that would be cool. Drag would

2123
02:03:11,039 --> 02:03:14,840
be right out there. Okay. I would want to turn

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02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:21,159
into a cat. What cat? He hates cats? He wants

2125
02:03:21,199 --> 02:03:25,079
to be one that. I don't know. No, I would

2126
02:03:25,119 --> 02:03:28,960
want to be something that you could fly. Definitely fly

2127
02:03:29,720 --> 02:03:34,640
a big badass at the same dragon pretty bad, you know, yeah,

2128
02:03:34,840 --> 02:03:38,680
but flying would be kind of cool. Superman in the

2129
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fifty series, think about this. You see him flying along drugs,

2130
02:03:44,760 --> 02:03:49,239
right he's obviously on some kind of table there. How

2131
02:03:49,279 --> 02:03:51,319
does he eat in the window? When he comes in

2132
02:03:51,439 --> 02:03:55,920
the window his feet first? Does he make that maneuver? Oh?

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02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:57,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got to have the moves to do it.

2134
02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:00,880
Then he jumps out the window. How does he go

2135
02:04:01,000 --> 02:04:04,039
from jumping out? And then you know, but because he's

2136
02:04:04,119 --> 02:04:06,600
jumping on straight but for you to come in the window?

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02:04:07,199 --> 02:04:10,119
Speaker 2: Feed first she puts on the air brakes and he

2138
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stands out and some kind of a maneuver, right, and

2139
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:18,520
then well they didn't have the special effects, you know,

2140
02:04:19,199 --> 02:04:22,439
didn't have AI are you? Is that the cherry on top?

2141
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:24,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's it.

2142
02:04:24,960 --> 02:04:31,840
Speaker 2: Let's clap for her, extending clap. We know, what have

2143
02:04:31,960 --> 02:04:34,520
you ever acted like in theater or anything?

2144
02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 9: Like?

2145
02:04:35,239 --> 02:04:37,279
Speaker 7: You a little?

2146
02:04:37,720 --> 02:04:41,039
Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? Okay, all right, let's get into this share

2147
02:04:41,159 --> 02:04:41,439
with us.

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02:04:43,960 --> 02:04:44,279
Speaker 7: What what?

2149
02:04:44,479 --> 02:04:47,159
Speaker 2: What were you in the street?

2150
02:04:47,479 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 7: I used I used to be in this acting troop

2151
02:04:52,319 --> 02:04:56,520
that worked with the mental health center in the town

2152
02:04:56,600 --> 02:05:00,439
that I was from to We would do improvisational acting

2153
02:05:01,119 --> 02:05:04,399
and we would go to different groups that needed work

2154
02:05:04,479 --> 02:05:08,720
on like communication skills, and we would rehearse a conflict

2155
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:12,000
situation and then we had a mediator who had stopped

2156
02:05:12,039 --> 02:05:14,720
the action and get input from the audience of how

2157
02:05:14,800 --> 02:05:18,279
to resolve this, and then we would improv resolve it

2158
02:05:18,399 --> 02:05:21,279
based on what the audience said we should do.

2159
02:05:22,359 --> 02:05:26,319
Speaker 2: Okay, a club. Do you think Sarah Palin is an

2160
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:33,600
attractive woman? I think she's ugly. Oh I'm sorry, she's

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02:05:33,640 --> 02:05:36,359
studying stunning switch it.

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02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:41,199
Speaker 6: Oh, come on, guys, don't don't give me that the.

2163
02:05:41,319 --> 02:05:49,520
Speaker 2: Politics since it because a little Sarah Palin tonight, don't you. Yeah? Yeah,

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02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:54,640
absolutely so, thank you, uh Brandy for all that. Thank you,

2165
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,600
And you would want to transform into a butterfly that

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02:05:58,760 --> 02:06:01,920
type of thing, but a badass a bat.

2167
02:06:02,119 --> 02:06:07,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, butterfly, bad butterfly.

2168
02:06:07,199 --> 02:06:09,880
Speaker 2: Good name. I was gonna say good name from Ben.

2169
02:06:12,079 --> 02:06:14,880
You got to switching. Well, I think they have to

2170
02:06:14,920 --> 02:06:18,880
bring the ship in. Yeah yeah, but switching please the

2171
02:06:20,720 --> 02:06:22,000
green crash image.

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02:06:22,039 --> 02:06:23,399
Speaker 6: I don't think I have a ship, but I got

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02:06:23,479 --> 02:06:23,800
a tray.

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02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the Hindenburg, isn't it. I'm sorry, Branday, you're

2175
02:06:32,600 --> 02:06:37,079
the first one we have to say goodbye to show. Okay,

2176
02:06:38,640 --> 02:06:38,880
thank you.

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02:06:39,119 --> 02:06:39,760
Speaker 7: I have a great week.

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Speaker 5: Everybody.

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02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,239
Speaker 2: Thank you very much for joining us, and we really

2180
02:06:43,279 --> 02:06:44,680
appreciate everything you do.

2181
02:06:46,199 --> 02:06:47,479
Speaker 7: I really appreciate all of you.

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02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:52,199
Speaker 2: Also, thankay all right, and thanks for looking really lovely,

2183
02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:58,960
Susan Kay. Also, I can't the blonde and the corvette

2184
02:06:59,000 --> 02:07:02,399
with the glasses can't beat it. Thank you, Thank Rudy.

2185
02:07:03,760 --> 02:07:06,359
Speaker 5: I will thank you for having me. I love being here.

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02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 2: No cats, we didn't do your bit, but we'll do it.

2187
02:07:09,239 --> 02:07:12,279
If you were cat free, cat free? Love it? Did

2188
02:07:12,359 --> 02:07:16,079
you say cat patio earlier last week? Show call?

2189
02:07:17,039 --> 02:07:17,439
Speaker 10: Correct?

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02:07:17,479 --> 02:07:23,199
Speaker 2: Come on, that's the end of the world if what's that?

2191
02:07:23,840 --> 02:07:25,840
Just a place where cats will hang out when they

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02:07:25,880 --> 02:07:26,439
were in the mood.

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02:07:27,439 --> 02:07:30,439
Speaker 9: I originally set you off when I told you they're

2194
02:07:30,479 --> 02:07:34,960
in a cat suite that really have They can climb

2195
02:07:35,039 --> 02:07:37,680
on all these little things that are built on the wall,

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02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:40,920
and then if they want to go outside, they can

2197
02:07:41,039 --> 02:07:45,399
go out onto the CaTiO anytime they want, and it's caged.

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02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:47,199
Speaker 5: In so they can't get away or get hurt by

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02:07:47,239 --> 02:07:48,199
any other animal.

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02:07:48,439 --> 02:07:51,159
Speaker 2: Does anyone see how wrong this is besides me?

2201
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:56,760
Speaker 4: I built a series of screened walls on my deck

2202
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,560
a number of years ago that were hinged, and you

2203
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:03,239
could them or close them, and I could when we

2204
02:08:03,319 --> 02:08:05,000
were out there, I would put them out of the way.

2205
02:08:05,039 --> 02:08:08,159
But when I let the cats out, I would pold

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02:08:08,199 --> 02:08:10,520
them open and I would make a little spot.

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02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:12,159
Speaker 2: The cast could walk out on the deck and be

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02:08:12,199 --> 02:08:14,319
out there all day. But they were, you know, they

2209
02:08:14,359 --> 02:08:18,600
were confined, so they couldn't get away. So the prisons,

2210
02:08:18,920 --> 02:08:20,840
well they're outdoors. Your cats.

2211
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:25,079
Speaker 4: Now, there's a place on the island that has a

2212
02:08:25,399 --> 02:08:28,279
caged in area behind the house and a walkway for

2213
02:08:28,560 --> 02:08:28,920
the cats.

2214
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:32,319
Speaker 2: Come out of a window on the head they cast.

2215
02:08:32,399 --> 02:08:36,359
It's really cool. They cats like rats, okay, with a

2216
02:08:36,439 --> 02:08:41,319
different move sea instead of an R. They sleep, they eat.

2217
02:08:42,279 --> 02:08:46,159
That's it. That's it, and then it ain't any kind

2218
02:08:46,199 --> 02:08:49,199
of affection you think you get from a cat. Is

2219
02:08:49,359 --> 02:08:55,600
just them saying can I eat? Where? Can I lay down? Well? No, no,

2220
02:08:55,840 --> 02:08:58,479
I don't buy it. I don't buy not my cats. Brandy,

2221
02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:01,720
thank you, thank you very much. Susan K. Thank you

2222
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:06,479
very much. I have to do it. Club club, thank you, club,

2223
02:09:06,680 --> 02:09:10,520
thank you club. Well, thank you. Man. We start calling him,

2224
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:17,640
calling Retelicus Maximus. Who are the Pats playing next week Pittsburgh.

2225
02:09:18,840 --> 02:09:23,319
They're going to get the ras man. Are you ever positive?

2226
02:09:23,439 --> 02:09:26,199
Is there anything you can I'm being logical. Why do

2227
02:09:26,279 --> 02:09:29,159
you say I'm not going to be this guy who

2228
02:09:29,319 --> 02:09:32,439
is going to be. Everything they do is great. I'm

2229
02:09:32,479 --> 02:09:35,720
just going to look at the team. Their team. I

2230
02:09:35,760 --> 02:09:36,239
don't see it.

2231
02:09:37,039 --> 02:09:41,319
Speaker 8: The team is not Green Bay. Pittsburgh is not a

2232
02:09:41,439 --> 02:09:45,039
strong team. Aaron Rodgers is the best part of that.

2233
02:09:45,359 --> 02:09:46,520
And he's a fraud.

2234
02:09:46,640 --> 02:09:51,079
Speaker 2: Now that's true. Thank you. Well, maybe we'll see next week.

2235
02:09:51,119 --> 02:09:55,359
We'll see next week. You can uh, okay, you can

2236
02:09:55,520 --> 02:09:58,000
dump on me if I yet, but I'm thinking the big,

2237
02:09:58,159 --> 02:10:04,399
big loss for the Pats. Well you can think. Thanks Switchy.

2238
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:08,920
It's time for you, same for me for what, Well,

2239
02:10:11,760 --> 02:10:16,920
something right? Really, get something right? Switch Sorry for embarrassing tonight.

2240
02:10:17,800 --> 02:10:20,239
Speaker 6: Embarrassed me at all, embarrassed me at all. I uh,

2241
02:10:21,000 --> 02:10:23,640
you exposed what you did. I appreciate how you exposed

2242
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:27,640
AI and how absolutely watched.

2243
02:10:27,560 --> 02:10:30,479
Speaker 11: And unreliable, legitimate question it was. It was a great

2244
02:10:30,680 --> 02:10:35,680
it was a great play and seven Now I appreciate that.

2245
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:41,640
And we don't really need clubs commentary right now.

2246
02:10:41,760 --> 02:10:45,680
Speaker 2: But you know, no, you're embarrassed. You'll get over it.

2247
02:10:46,039 --> 02:10:47,319
It's okay, get over.

2248
02:10:47,279 --> 02:10:50,800
Speaker 9: Switching, can I I adds? It's just the only one

2249
02:10:50,880 --> 02:10:54,640
that caught mine, not today number thirty seven. So y'all

2250
02:10:54,720 --> 02:11:00,159
are busted and have not seen that Mothman Prophecy movie. Uh,

2251
02:11:00,680 --> 02:11:02,199
that's the line from that movie.

2252
02:11:03,479 --> 02:11:06,399
Speaker 6: Okay, Well, all I can tell you people is I'll

2253
02:11:06,439 --> 02:11:07,239
see you in time.

2254
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:12,680
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. The last so Twitch Club wants to

2255
02:11:12,760 --> 02:11:13,800
be the Gorn.

2256
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:18,560
Speaker 6: Oh the Gorn. Well, he needs to be a better

2257
02:11:18,640 --> 02:11:21,560
gorn because the one, the original one, didn't move his lips.

2258
02:11:22,239 --> 02:11:25,560
Speaker 2: Well, actually, Mac had him on the show. He was

2259
02:11:25,600 --> 02:11:28,039
on the show. He did. Mac had the Gorn on

2260
02:11:28,119 --> 02:11:30,039
the show, so he actually said he says it was

2261
02:11:30,119 --> 02:11:31,920
out in the middle of the desert and made the

2262
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:35,600
mistake of drinking six cups of coffee and there's no bonafide.

2263
02:11:36,840 --> 02:11:40,960
That was the biggest thing. So the Gorn was going anyway.

2264
02:11:41,960 --> 02:11:43,920
Speaker 6: I guess he was wearing his underwear upside down.

2265
02:11:44,079 --> 02:11:51,600
Speaker 2: Okay, So thank you, thank you, pens, Wow, thank you

2266
02:11:51,720 --> 02:11:53,920
all for tuning. Is glad to be here, Mac. Okay,

2267
02:11:54,479 --> 02:11:57,560
thanks everyone for listening to us tonight. I'm just going

2268
02:11:57,640 --> 02:12:00,359
to write to the end note plugs. So this is

2269
02:12:00,479 --> 02:12:04,239
back from the entire gang saying be safe, be happy, and.

2270
02:12:05,840 --> 02:12:07,800
Speaker 6: Bye bye bye bye bye.

2271
02:12:08,640 --> 02:12:14,199
Speaker 2: I think you need to disco music. There we go,

2272
02:12:14,359 --> 02:12:25,159
let's go. Oh look at this switching.

2273
02:12:27,399 --> 02:12:27,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, I.

2274
02:12:30,119 --> 02:12:36,359
Speaker 16: Just saw the Beg's But by the way, I also

2275
02:12:36,479 --> 02:12:39,359
saw it Richard Dreyfer in Jaws on the Big Screw

2276
02:12:39,640 --> 02:12:42,600
really yeah, yeah, he get eaten, but it was kind

2277
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:43,199
of fun.

2278
02:12:43,960 --> 02:12:45,359
Speaker 6: After after half a century.

2279
02:12:49,560 --> 02:12:50,159
Speaker 5: Have you seen the