WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:03.879 Sl hopefully for a moment, calmed the masses with a 2 00:00:03.879 --> 00:00:07.400 two miller result against Seattle. It was the MLS home 3 00:00:07.400 --> 00:00:10.240 opener for the lads on Saturday. Our next guest was 4 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:13.960 on the call and he is celebrating a birthday I 5 00:00:14.039 --> 00:00:18.320 believe today. Yes, Brian Donseeth, happy birthday, buddy boy. 6 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:21.960 I appreciate it. Yesterday was my birthday. But no, I 7 00:00:21.960 --> 00:00:24.280 appreciate it nonetheless. One man, thank you so much. 8 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:28.559 So you're you're what forty two? Is that right thereabouts? 9 00:00:29.800 --> 00:00:35.719 Yeah? Maybe six years ago? Ka, No, unfortunately, forty eight 10 00:00:35.840 --> 00:00:39.439 years old man, And I don't know. It's weird. I 11 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:41.399 can't be the only one out there in radio land 12 00:00:41.399 --> 00:00:44.159 who still thinks they're twenty three, twenty four but then 13 00:00:44.240 --> 00:00:46.439 wakes up with like a crank in their neck, their 14 00:00:46.520 --> 00:00:49.799 back hurts, and somehow, you know, they've got some foot 15 00:00:49.799 --> 00:00:54.039 issue out of nowhere. Yeah. I'm young and dynamic in 16 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.039 my mind, and I'm I'm beat up and old in 17 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:56.520 my body. 18 00:00:56.679 --> 00:00:58.759 You're preaching the choir man. I pulled my hamstring in 19 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:03.359 the shower, just trying to you know, body wash, how old? 20 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:03.920 How old? 21 00:01:04.040 --> 00:01:06.760 Was a bright eyed and bushy tailed Brian dun Seth 22 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:09.439 when he first landed in Salt Lake City. 23 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:13.359 So I was, Uh, I think I was twenty six. Wow, yeah, 24 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:15.840 I think I was twenty six, twenty seventh somewhere there. 25 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:18.799 Okay, man, you've been you've been around these parts. I 26 00:01:18.799 --> 00:01:20.480 know you left for a moment, but you've been back. 27 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:23.319 You're basically a local, Donny by now, aren't you. 28 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:25.480 Oh dude. 29 00:01:25.480 --> 00:01:26.599 I represent the. 30 00:01:26.599 --> 00:01:30.400 Eight oh one really really well. I Uh I do it. 31 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:33.760 Every I do it. Everybody from Utah does. When somebody 32 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.840 speaks high of this beautiful state of ours, I tell 33 00:01:36.920 --> 00:01:40.079 him it's horrible that they'd hate it, and don't even 34 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:42.640 think about visiting that you wouldn't like it. Just to 35 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.079 keep all the rip wrap away, No, I I'm throwing 36 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:50.359 through my kid. You know. My wife Jade went to Skyline, 37 00:01:50.439 --> 00:01:53.239 went to Westminster. My boys are going to Churchill in Skyline. 38 00:01:53.760 --> 00:01:54.640 I'm not going anywhere. 39 00:01:54.719 --> 00:01:56.040 Man. I love the eight oh one. 40 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:57.719 That's good living here, There's no doubt. 41 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.120 All right, Donny, Let's start with little good before we 42 00:02:01.200 --> 00:02:05.840 dig into potentially some bad. What if anything did that result? 43 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:07.959 And you and our guy Max on the call, what 44 00:02:08.360 --> 00:02:10.639 did that result do? Just to kind of calm people 45 00:02:10.759 --> 00:02:13.520 down to nil in the home opener. As far as 46 00:02:13.639 --> 00:02:14.400 MLS play. 47 00:02:14.280 --> 00:02:18.240 Goes, yeah, I would say Spence, and I agree with 48 00:02:18.319 --> 00:02:20.039 you to an extent, but I would say it was 49 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.240 actually more important inside of that locker room for a 50 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:28.520 group of players. You know, listen, they're missing forty two 51 00:02:28.599 --> 00:02:31.039 goals in twenty nine to six. If you go back 52 00:02:31.080 --> 00:02:35.479 to calendar here talking about Chijo Rongo Andris Domez, Anderson 53 00:02:35.560 --> 00:02:39.199 Julio and Matt Crooks. You know, the beauty in that 54 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.439 is when those type of players leave, there's a you know, 55 00:02:42.520 --> 00:02:45.560 there's a huge upside to it, which means inside that 56 00:02:45.680 --> 00:02:50.000 locker room there's a great opportunity for young players to 57 00:02:50.159 --> 00:02:52.800 fill that vacuum, not only on the field, but maybe 58 00:02:52.879 --> 00:02:56.639 more importantly from a leadership perspective. On top of that, 59 00:02:57.159 --> 00:02:59.719 I think for Pablo Mastroni, when you're looking at it 60 00:03:00.280 --> 00:03:03.199 and you're looking at Piol, two players that our young 61 00:03:03.360 --> 00:03:07.479 dynamic have similar player profiles. One of these guys for 62 00:03:07.960 --> 00:03:10.639 going out on the international market, one of these guys, 63 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:13.439 you got to find somebody who could be that next 64 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:18.159 you know, Halvrosapario, that next to Joe Rongo. On top 65 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:21.120 of that, I thought defensively at times they were pretty poor. 66 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:24.039 In the first couple of games, I thought they were 67 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.439 rock solid in the back with cabral the relationship between 68 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:32.479 Justin Glad and Philip Quinton, Amcca and Brian o'heada picking 69 00:03:32.560 --> 00:03:34.680 up right where they left off, and I thought there 70 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:36.639 was a tweak And I'm not sure too many people 71 00:03:36.759 --> 00:03:40.919 notice this, but I think it could have outstanding ramifications 72 00:03:41.479 --> 00:03:46.159 going forward. And that was making Diego Luna the undisputed 73 00:03:46.199 --> 00:03:52.120 playmakers centrally underneath either Piol or a Jago and sliding 74 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.840 Diego Gonzalvez out to that left hand side. And what 75 00:03:55.960 --> 00:03:59.599 it signifies to me sets is that Diego Luna has 76 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:03.439 the key to the Ferrari and maybe Diogo comesolve, who 77 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:07.360 hasn't lived up to expectation so far, maybe a little 78 00:04:07.439 --> 00:04:11.120 less pressure and a better opportunity to kind of hide 79 00:04:11.120 --> 00:04:14.240 in the shadows and pick up some really important vacated 80 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:18.560 speed spaces, put workout in the running that Diego Luda 81 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:20.040 has been doing in that number ten position. 82 00:04:20.560 --> 00:04:22.920 So I want to throw something at you that Jason 83 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:26.680 Jason Christ throw me when cause you referenced Diogo who 84 00:04:26.920 --> 00:04:30.399 was brought in last summer during that transfer window and 85 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:34.079 is technically, I think the only DP now on the roster. 86 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:37.720 And to your point, there just haven't been enough bright 87 00:04:37.879 --> 00:04:40.399 moments to say, Okay, that's our guy, that's our DP. 88 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:44.240 And Jason said, the very same thing happened at the 89 00:04:44.279 --> 00:04:48.160 start of Javier's career, Javier Morales's career here in Salt Lake, 90 00:04:48.199 --> 00:04:50.480 where you know, you know the story as. 91 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:51.920 Well as anybody. Jay takes the gig. 92 00:04:52.319 --> 00:04:54.399 He's having a tough time getting anybody to let him 93 00:04:54.399 --> 00:04:56.879 sign players, so he just takes a flight to Argentina 94 00:04:57.399 --> 00:05:01.399 and finds Javier, finds Fabian and of course Mattias Mantisia, 95 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:02.600 which didn't work out as well. 96 00:05:03.079 --> 00:05:04.000 But is is that? 97 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:07.120 Is that a good experience in parallel to drop on 98 00:05:07.279 --> 00:05:10.000 for RSL fans like, yes, Diogo has struggled, but so 99 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.079 did Hovey and Hobby, for most people, including me, is 100 00:05:13.079 --> 00:05:14.399 the best player who's ever played here. 101 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:21.800 It's it's a it's a good food for thought, training exercise, 102 00:05:21.839 --> 00:05:24.959 a couple of different things here at the time Hobby 103 00:05:25.079 --> 00:05:27.680 came in to play that number ten position. Remember he 104 00:05:27.839 --> 00:05:29.680 was diving all over the place. He was always on 105 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:31.920 the ground, yep. And we were concerned that there was 106 00:05:31.959 --> 00:05:38.279 a physicality issue, but Hobby still could play Diogo. You know, 107 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:42.959 for for whatever reason, Matt Crooks was preferred over Diogo. 108 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:45.279 And we can talk about adaption, and we could talk 109 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:47.959 about time, we could talk about what I feel was 110 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:49.959 the failure for me also link to get the job 111 00:05:50.040 --> 00:05:53.279 done way quicker than it needed to be, similar to 112 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.360 Chico getting in the market, you know, three weeks prior 113 00:05:56.439 --> 00:06:00.160 to even his availability to start training. Uh. You know, 114 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:04.560 Pablo quite likely preferred Matt Crooks and Chijo Rongo together 115 00:06:04.639 --> 00:06:08.920 when healthy, and he preferred Anderson's Julio with Diogo because 116 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:13.839 of the positioning. I take what Jason's analogy is, and 117 00:06:14.560 --> 00:06:17.360 what I'll do is I'll hopefully add to it that 118 00:06:17.480 --> 00:06:23.160 if Diogo Consolvez is anywhere near as productive and important 119 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:27.160 that Pavier Morales was to Real Salt Lake, well then 120 00:06:27.199 --> 00:06:30.639 you've got an iconic ten not just for the present 121 00:06:30.800 --> 00:06:33.560 but for the future as well. But as I say that, 122 00:06:34.360 --> 00:06:40.279 I've I wonder out loud for Diogo if ultimately he's 123 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.079 a player that thrives on having guys that are also 124 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:47.759 leaders amongst him, and having guys that are as talented, 125 00:06:47.920 --> 00:06:51.000 if not more talented, Because during his time that was 126 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.959 certainly the case Atanica and Copenhagen. A guy that was 127 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:57.160 going to start each and every game, but a guy 128 00:06:57.279 --> 00:07:00.279 that maybe like Albert Russknat during his tenure. You're here 129 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.839 at Riale Sa Lake, you didn't have to lean on 130 00:07:02.959 --> 00:07:07.000 him as much as maybe the observance of being a 131 00:07:07.040 --> 00:07:09.480 designated player is in Major League Soccer. 132 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:13.319 So tell me, Donny, from your perspective and the inside 133 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:17.240 knowledge you have, what is fair to say about the 134 00:07:17.319 --> 00:07:21.079 front office the ownership group right now? Because you know, 135 00:07:21.279 --> 00:07:23.959 with all of the moves they made, and you know, 136 00:07:24.199 --> 00:07:26.680 we could go over all of them, it's chie show 137 00:07:26.720 --> 00:07:29.519 to San Jose, it's moving andress on your reference Matt 138 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.920 Crooks and oh everything. The number that I've been told 139 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:36.759 is they pocketed, you know, between fifteen and seven mil, 140 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:39.480 which is great, I mean, and I understand that the 141 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:42.879 anddress thing is now proof of concept, but if you're 142 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:45.399 a fan of the club, you're expecting that money to 143 00:07:45.480 --> 00:07:48.720 be reinvested into the club to get top shelf talent, 144 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:51.800 and if we're honest, that just hasn't happened yet. What's 145 00:07:51.879 --> 00:07:54.240 fair to say about the process in your opinion. 146 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.079 Yeah, there's a couple of different factors. And I'm no 147 00:07:58.160 --> 00:08:00.600 apologist for real Saul Lake, to be clear, because I 148 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:04.800 think every team has certain things happened throughout the course 149 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:07.319 of their one year plan, their three year plan, that 150 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.759 five year plan, which is everything's great until you get 151 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.600 punched in the face. Russel got punched in the face 152 00:08:13.720 --> 00:08:17.480 on a couple different occasions and whatever it was. However, 153 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.920 we kind of finalized the Chicho Arongo departure of the 154 00:08:21.000 --> 00:08:25.680 reality is from a financial standpoint, Rial fal Lake is 155 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.519 an organization took a four and a four million dollar 156 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.639 bath on what the output was for what they paid 157 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:35.360 for him versus what they ended up inevitably getting as 158 00:08:35.440 --> 00:08:40.120 a distressed asset. Moving him to San Jose, Anderson Julio 159 00:08:40.200 --> 00:08:43.080 had a big option year, and at that age and 160 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:46.360 at that price, the club certainly felt as though they 161 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:50.399 could maybe not upgrade, but upgrade in potential, which is 162 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.600 what I think they've done. Although you've gotten rid of 163 00:08:53.679 --> 00:08:57.960 one of the you know, the most physically dominant in 164 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:02.120 transition moments and Ajor League Soccer and Anderson Julio to 165 00:09:02.279 --> 00:09:04.360 stretch the field, and we certainly saw them do that 166 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:07.639 in Week one, getting the week the game winner on 167 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:12.679 the road in Houston, Matt Crook's family didn't settle. You know, 168 00:09:13.000 --> 00:09:16.000 a similar story happened up in Vancouver where a designated 169 00:09:16.039 --> 00:09:20.440 player named Steven Armstrong. I would challenge anyone to think 170 00:09:20.440 --> 00:09:24.480 about being by themselves with a young family across you know, 171 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:27.240 a different in and different continent, and thinking about that 172 00:09:27.440 --> 00:09:30.879 and having to do the player right, well, it might 173 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:35.279 not do the club right. And then finally Elias Manuel, 174 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:38.159 who was supposed to come over from New York Red Bulls, 175 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.879 which I personally wasn't a huge fan of. But in 176 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.879 the midst of that trade, there was draft picks and 177 00:09:46.720 --> 00:09:49.279 there was a certain amount of general allocation money that 178 00:09:49.399 --> 00:09:54.679 was acquired in this offseason. And I think for Manuel, 179 00:09:54.799 --> 00:09:57.360 who agreed to the move and then decided that he 180 00:09:57.480 --> 00:10:01.120 didn't want to agree to the move, two things will happen. One, 181 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:04.120 you actually got a better return for what you even 182 00:10:04.240 --> 00:10:06.639 sent to New York Red Bulls for Manoel, because you're 183 00:10:06.639 --> 00:10:08.759 gonna end up getting around a million dollars from both 184 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:11.919 the FOCO in Brazil for a player that never even 185 00:10:11.960 --> 00:10:15.120 showed up in market. And number two, and this might 186 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.919 sound harsh, sense, but if you've got a guy that 187 00:10:18.039 --> 00:10:21.480 doesn't want to be here, good riddance. There's no reason 188 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:24.840 that rialso Lake should have to convince some guy why 189 00:10:25.039 --> 00:10:28.240 he should be coming to Salt Lake. Beat it like 190 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:30.840 it doesn't matter if we're talking Major League Baseball, we're 191 00:10:30.879 --> 00:10:34.480 talking NHL, we're talking NBA, Like this is a great 192 00:10:34.519 --> 00:10:35.840 place to live. And if you don't want to be 193 00:10:35.879 --> 00:10:39.120 a part of what's happening out here, kick rocks. And 194 00:10:39.240 --> 00:10:43.879 that's that's exactly what happened. So there's it's been. It's 195 00:10:43.919 --> 00:10:46.720 been a hefty offseason. I think a couple things caught 196 00:10:46.799 --> 00:10:50.440 him off guard, but the windows not closed. You have 197 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:56.039 significant funds and hopefully you know they've identified somebody that 198 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.919 will continue to push this group forward in a manner 199 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:02.879 in which they will be significantly better than maybe where 200 00:11:02.919 --> 00:11:05.759 they're at right now. But sud for thought that goal 201 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:09.600 from a Jago, two goals in two matches, Hopefully that 202 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:13.200 doesn't skew what the immediate need is of the club. 203 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:14.840 And I want to I want to get to him 204 00:11:14.840 --> 00:11:15.240 in a moment. 205 00:11:15.320 --> 00:11:17.639 But I'm glad you brought up Manuel because I wanted 206 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:20.879 to kick the tires with you on this dynamic and 207 00:11:20.960 --> 00:11:23.759 whether or not it's something that maybe we should talk 208 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:26.360 about more than we do because we talk about it 209 00:11:26.399 --> 00:11:28.600 all the time through the prism of Pro Basketball and 210 00:11:28.639 --> 00:11:29.360 the Utah Jazz. 211 00:11:29.440 --> 00:11:32.120 I mean, I could give you a number of examples. 212 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.080 Some people know about like Derek Harper and Ronnie Sichlee 213 00:11:35.559 --> 00:11:37.000 other people, other others don't. 214 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.360 People don't really know about, namely like a Kevin Love. 215 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:40.039 Uh. 216 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:42.200 There was a trade on the table to bring Kevin 217 00:11:42.240 --> 00:11:44.440 Love to Utah when Donovan and Rudy were here and 218 00:11:44.519 --> 00:11:47.399 he said he's simply through his agent. He informed the 219 00:11:47.440 --> 00:11:49.879 front office. I don't want to live there. I'm not 220 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.440 going to play for the Jazz. I don't feel like 221 00:11:52.559 --> 00:11:56.120 we experienced that much on the soccer side, but are 222 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:59.639 we starting to because and look, I know that harkening 223 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:02.360 back to you know, two thousand and five to twenty 224 00:12:02.600 --> 00:12:05.600 ten is a fool's errand with how different the league 225 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:08.000 is now. But my prison when I was with the 226 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:12.759 club is meeting people like you and Kyle and Chris Brown, 227 00:12:12.879 --> 00:12:16.519 and I could keep going like transplants who came here 228 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.200 and ended up loving it here because of our soccer 229 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:22.600 community and the support that you guys had. Is it 230 00:12:22.679 --> 00:12:25.879 a new day where maybe the club is running into 231 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.399 the issue of people not wanting to live in Salt 232 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.360 Lake City. To your point, if you don't want to, like, okay, 233 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:33.480 get lost, we'll figure it out. But I just I 234 00:12:33.519 --> 00:12:36.320 don't know that I've heard many examples of it happening. 235 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.679 Now we have one with a kid that I think 236 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.200 they were hoping would come here and play. 237 00:12:40.279 --> 00:12:45.559 Well, yeah, I think there's twofold number one. I think 238 00:12:45.600 --> 00:12:49.480 we have to acknowledge that in football, worldlife football, worldlife soccer. 239 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.840 It's a different dynamic here in Major League Soccer that 240 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:59.080 effectively the players are league employees. They're not team employees. 241 00:13:00.159 --> 00:13:03.600 Usually it's a loan, it's a buy, or it's a sell. 242 00:13:04.159 --> 00:13:07.320 You know, you've got three different situations you can find 243 00:13:07.360 --> 00:13:11.440 yourself in. Here at Major League Soccer, it's different. You know, 244 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.559 the club is the club, but you're still technically league employees. 245 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:18.919 So that's a unique dynamic in which when players from 246 00:13:19.120 --> 00:13:23.320 outside of the United States have experiences for the first time, 247 00:13:23.960 --> 00:13:27.279 they think they're signing with the club. Unbeknownst to them, 248 00:13:27.879 --> 00:13:29.960 you know, they're at any moment the club could trade 249 00:13:30.000 --> 00:13:32.639 you and you have no say. It's one of the 250 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:34.440 reasons why I came to Rials Lake from being in 251 00:13:34.519 --> 00:13:37.360 Sweden was because I got traded down to Dallas on 252 00:13:37.480 --> 00:13:41.120 trade deadline day. General manager quits, head coach gets fired. 253 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:44.639 I'm in an option year, and neither the two knuckleheads 254 00:13:44.679 --> 00:13:47.039 who took charge were telling me either they were going 255 00:13:47.080 --> 00:13:48.960 to pick up my option or they were going to 256 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:51.519 trade me. And when the LA Galaxy wanted me, they 257 00:13:51.639 --> 00:13:53.519 refused to flat out trade me. So I got caught 258 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:56.799 in no man's land with a contract that no one 259 00:13:56.840 --> 00:13:59.000 would pick up, and yet I couldn't sign with anybody 260 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:03.120 because my rights virtually didn't didn't exist. Now that's a 261 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:08.039 very difficult two thousand and four conversation versus twenty twenty five, 262 00:14:08.879 --> 00:14:10.799 But the reality is it's still a culture shock for 263 00:14:10.879 --> 00:14:13.919 some of these players to try to contemplate and wrap 264 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:17.639 their heads around the idea of at any moment, I 265 00:14:17.720 --> 00:14:20.120 could be traded through no fault on my own, even 266 00:14:20.159 --> 00:14:23.080 when my kids are settled, I've bought a house, and 267 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:28.840 you know everyone's in school, so fast forward to that, listen. 268 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:31.399 I think the reality is and we're a very insecure 269 00:14:32.279 --> 00:14:35.320 Utah state right especially when it comes to our sports. 270 00:14:36.879 --> 00:14:40.120 I think when people hear the name real Salt Lake, 271 00:14:40.120 --> 00:14:42.000 if they're not aware of it. They're going to have 272 00:14:42.039 --> 00:14:43.960 to do a quick Google search and figure this out. 273 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:46.759 Number two, I think they'll be aware of the Mormon culture, 274 00:14:46.840 --> 00:14:50.559 the universities, you know, the sporting ventures, you know, Utah 275 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.320 Hockey Club and the jazz and then as they dig 276 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:55.679 a little bit more into it once they show up 277 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.360 in market, I think they're going to be overawed by 278 00:14:58.440 --> 00:15:02.600 the you know, by by the ridiculous beauty and you 279 00:15:02.679 --> 00:15:07.279 know how incredibly nice everybody is in Utah. So I 280 00:15:07.320 --> 00:15:10.480 don't know, to your original question, we could potentially be 281 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:15.200 in a situation like that, but I honestly think it's 282 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:17.320 a bullet dodged for real salt Lake when it's all 283 00:15:17.320 --> 00:15:20.080 said and done. Like I told you, he was a 284 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:23.519 substitute off the bench in an MLS Cup final. I 285 00:15:23.759 --> 00:15:26.200 wasn't really sold. I didn't think he was an upgrade 286 00:15:26.240 --> 00:15:28.080 Dan with some Julio. Oh what do I know? 287 00:15:29.000 --> 00:15:30.399 So let's move over and now to the group of 288 00:15:30.440 --> 00:15:32.679 strikers that are on the roster before I ask you 289 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.519 about potentially what's next. And they did sign a player 290 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:39.440 Jesus Berea, who I'd known nothing about, And honestly, I 291 00:15:39.480 --> 00:15:41.159 don't know anything about any of these guys, I'm learning 292 00:15:41.240 --> 00:15:43.159 all about him, but I will ask you about the 293 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.679 Yago kid because that was a really nice finish. Now 294 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:49.399 the second leg again, Sara Diiano. He did have a goal, 295 00:15:49.480 --> 00:15:51.639 but he had like seven that he just should have 296 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.960 like tapped in. He had so many chances. But I 297 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:57.519 feel like there's something there. I don't know what it is, 298 00:15:57.639 --> 00:15:59.879 but he's a big, physical kid with good speed and 299 00:16:00.039 --> 00:16:03.360 he does have both their goals. So you know, before 300 00:16:03.360 --> 00:16:05.440 we get to what's next, what's your take on whether 301 00:16:05.480 --> 00:16:08.440 it's Barea or Piol or Forrester and what you've seen 302 00:16:08.519 --> 00:16:08.879 so far. 303 00:16:10.879 --> 00:16:13.519 Yeah, so Jago, You're right, he had back to bad goals. 304 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:16.799 He could have had multiple goals against Heritano. He took 305 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:21.679 that goal extremely well. I actually said during the broadcast 306 00:16:21.759 --> 00:16:24.279 in the goal call that he took it early, and 307 00:16:24.360 --> 00:16:26.360 I think that's one of the things that surprised Stephen 308 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:30.840 Fry as the goalkeeper was coming off his line. A 309 00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:35.200 different player profile than what Peol has right Forster, Ajago 310 00:16:35.759 --> 00:16:38.480 going through went to Duke University. Since some time at Nashville, 311 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.120 He's got some familiarity with the league. Despite being a 312 00:16:41.159 --> 00:16:45.159 young striker. You can see there's high, high level potential. 313 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:47.639 He's got a body type that's kind of Mama du 314 00:16:47.720 --> 00:16:51.679 Diallo for the MLS. Sikos out there the MLS after 315 00:16:51.759 --> 00:16:54.039 darkers that are listening to and if you're out there, 316 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:59.159 you're epic. Piol Is a young twenty year old from 317 00:16:59.639 --> 00:17:03.759 you know, Southwest Australia. Five goals in eleven games for 318 00:17:03.879 --> 00:17:06.519 his club before he comes over. He had that one 319 00:17:06.680 --> 00:17:10.400 potential redirect from Katrani's ball was a little bit behind him, 320 00:17:10.440 --> 00:17:14.119 so he couldn't get it cleanly. But both of these 321 00:17:14.160 --> 00:17:17.880 guys body types are similar and yet they play dramatically 322 00:17:18.000 --> 00:17:21.519 different to one another. And then Barrera from anything that 323 00:17:21.559 --> 00:17:25.960 I've seen, college kid worthy of a high level draft pick. 324 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:30.359 You've and remember there's because of the transition from the presidency, 325 00:17:30.920 --> 00:17:33.799 there's some paperwork issues that are being worked. 326 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.359 Out in real time, and unfortunately for some of. 327 00:17:36.400 --> 00:17:40.599 These work permits or green cards, Rialsa Lake is like 328 00:17:40.839 --> 00:17:43.480 many other teams in Major League Soccer and in the 329 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:48.079 sporting landscape where things aren't getting done as fluidly as 330 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:52.759 maybe they did under the previous administration. So I think 331 00:17:52.839 --> 00:17:55.079 there's going to be a little bit of a rotation, 332 00:17:55.640 --> 00:17:58.039 not in a bad way, but more of an addition 333 00:17:58.599 --> 00:18:01.839 to the roster. This kind of gets leveled out and 334 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:05.279 calm down and you see the certain paperwork that was 335 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:09.039 planned on getting done and dusted. But I only saw 336 00:18:09.119 --> 00:18:13.680 Johnny in in two training sessions, and I can tell 337 00:18:13.720 --> 00:18:16.920 you that there is some great potential for this young 338 00:18:17.000 --> 00:18:21.079 Spaniard pathless traveled, kind of like, yesper Laffelson coming to 339 00:18:21.160 --> 00:18:24.680 the United States to get his college education and then 340 00:18:24.759 --> 00:18:28.400 playing professional soccer, which yesper Loffelson should be starting, by 341 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:32.200 the way for San Diego on Saturday for San Diego FC. 342 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:38.799 Former rsler. But yeah, high, high level potential. So I 343 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:41.880 think when we're talking about the roster Spence, I probably 344 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.000 should say this. I don't think this is anywhere close 345 00:18:45.079 --> 00:18:48.759 to being the best roster for Rialsa Lake, as it's 346 00:18:48.799 --> 00:18:52.799 obviously in flux, But I would say position for position, 347 00:18:53.839 --> 00:18:57.279 you've got two legitimate starters in each position, and it 348 00:18:57.440 --> 00:19:01.119 might be the most competitive position and for position roster 349 00:19:01.559 --> 00:19:02.920 that our solo has ever put together. 350 00:19:03.640 --> 00:19:06.519 Yeah, there's some definite depth in certain areas, but there 351 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:09.160 just doesn't seem to be depth or quite frankly, top 352 00:19:09.240 --> 00:19:12.160 shelf quality up top. So let's move over now to 353 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:15.839 any insight you have about a striker potentially on the way. Now, 354 00:19:15.960 --> 00:19:18.160 Kurt was on the show last week and he said 355 00:19:18.680 --> 00:19:21.960 that they're working on it, like they are actively talking 356 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.359 to people. And you know, I know that the fans 357 00:19:25.400 --> 00:19:27.200 are just simply a little bit front because I heard 358 00:19:27.279 --> 00:19:29.440 you and Max on the broadcast talk about this arms 359 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:32.880 race in the Western Conference where these teams are spending 360 00:19:33.079 --> 00:19:36.319 millions and millions of dollars on high quality players. And 361 00:19:36.440 --> 00:19:38.559 to your point, there's depth in a lot of places. 362 00:19:39.319 --> 00:19:41.680 The new keeper seems to be a really experienced dude, 363 00:19:41.720 --> 00:19:43.839 but you've got to do something up top. So do 364 00:19:43.920 --> 00:19:46.240 you think reinforcements are on the way and do you 365 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:47.559 have any idea what that looks like. 366 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:52.079 So there's always a couple different ways to look at this, right, 367 00:19:52.559 --> 00:19:55.359 There's different mechanisms. Do you want to designated player? Do 368 00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:57.920 you want a target allocation money player? Do you want 369 00:19:57.960 --> 00:20:01.200 a you twenty two initiative player where it's effectively a 370 00:20:01.279 --> 00:20:05.839 designated player type under the age of twenty two. Do 371 00:20:05.960 --> 00:20:08.480 you want to use general allocation money. There's a new 372 00:20:08.559 --> 00:20:12.160 mechanism called cash per player in Major League Soccer. That's 373 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:15.400 what saw Lucuo Coosta leave Cincinnati and go to Dallas 374 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:21.519 Evander leave Portland and go to Cincinnati. Joviilich leaves LA 375 00:20:21.640 --> 00:20:24.720 Galaxy and go to Sporting Kansas City. And here's the 376 00:20:24.799 --> 00:20:27.000 other wrinkle in dynamic I've always been intrigued on and 377 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:29.759 I've never really had clarity. What's the role of Ryan 378 00:20:29.880 --> 00:20:33.839 Smith in this conversation with regards to the monopoly money 379 00:20:34.240 --> 00:20:37.720 that both he and David Blitzer have. You know, we're 380 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:42.440 acutely aware of both having the sporting umbrella in multiple 381 00:20:42.519 --> 00:20:47.359 leagues and having the sporting umbrella. It's with particular with 382 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:51.839 David Blitzer worldwide. When you think about the investments in 383 00:20:51.880 --> 00:20:55.640 the clubs in the Bundesliga, the Premier League, Danish Super League, 384 00:20:55.759 --> 00:20:59.559 down in Portugal. I mean list goes on and on, 385 00:21:00.960 --> 00:21:04.799 and what is the valuation and the ultimate amount of 386 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:07.680 money that you're willing to spend not only on transfer 387 00:21:07.759 --> 00:21:13.200 fee but effectively the weekly wage, the yearly wage. So 388 00:21:13.640 --> 00:21:16.400 I guess what I'm trying to say, Spence is there's 389 00:21:16.440 --> 00:21:18.839 a lot of ways to crack the egg. The question 390 00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:21.319 is what kind of egg is going to be cracked 391 00:21:21.759 --> 00:21:24.079 and is it just going to be a singular sunnyside 392 00:21:24.119 --> 00:21:27.079 up or are we cooking with an omelet. That's that 393 00:21:27.240 --> 00:21:30.200 all remains to be seen. But my problem, and I'll 394 00:21:30.279 --> 00:21:34.400 take this from more of like an Apple MLS analyst perspective, 395 00:21:35.440 --> 00:21:37.400 it's tough to be It's tough to try to tell 396 00:21:37.440 --> 00:21:41.480 everybody that you're taking Conky Cap Champions Cup serious when 397 00:21:41.519 --> 00:21:44.160 you have such a unique history in that tournament and 398 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:46.119 it's your first time back in a long long time, 399 00:21:46.759 --> 00:21:50.960 and that's the roster that you put together three weeks 400 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:53.880 ago to head down to Harry Giano. I think there's 401 00:21:53.920 --> 00:21:57.559