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Speaker 6: All right, let's get to our guy, Nick Underhill, New
Orleans and dot football joins us every single Tuesday at
nine a m. And well, big day yesterday for the
New Orleans Saints, and so I'm sure he has been
working fast and fear glad to have your own Nicholas.
Speaker 5: How you doing, sir? Doing great?
Speaker 2: Are you guys?
Speaker 5: Are you guys doing? We're doing fantastic.
Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever been as excited to see
a guard get signed as I have.
Speaker 3: Over the last twenty four hours. For the New Orleans Saints.
Speaker 6: It was a position of desperate need and you go
get the top guy on the market and you get
him for a pretty nice price.
Speaker 3: There. What a win for Mickey Loomis and the Saints.
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's huge.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm hearing myself back through here, and and
I can't.
Speaker 5: I can't talk right now, can you guys, call.
Speaker 6: Me on the way. We'll call you on the phone. Yeah,
we'll call you. We'll make sure we go. We'll get
that done. He's like allowed myself to hear myself. What's
going on with our tech?
Speaker 3: Ever since we put in these new cough drops.
Speaker 5: They looked very flustered.
Speaker 3: He looked like he had seen a ghost.
Speaker 5: He heard his voice for the first time. I feel
every time I hear my voice.
Speaker 6: Well, so I when I first when I first moved here,
I still did my Shreveport show before it was syndicated,
Like I just I did it, and then I do
this show, and I used to do it down in
the old ESPN studio. Well, they could never figure out
why I was getting feedback, so I would actually the
entire show. I would hear feedback on a one second
delay from what I was saying. So I was doing
it where I'd say something, take the headphone off, and
then put it back on. I did that for like months,
and they told me they couldn't figure it out.
Speaker 5: It feels like an easy fix. Yeah, there's a new
updated chord.
Speaker 6: They never did. But anyways, we got Nick Underhill Newman's
Football with us. Now Nicholas how you doing, glad we
got you on the phone. Sorry about that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 6: The New Orleans Saints sign a guard and they desperately
needed to sign a guard. They got the best guard
available and they got him for a pretty good price.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, definitely like one of those moves that just
makes you feel better about the whole entire operation. And
I don't think David Edwards is like a savior. I
don't think he's a top ten guard in the NFL
or anything like that.
Speaker 4: Like I think he's really good.
Speaker 2: I think he's the right age.
Speaker 4: I think he's a very.
Speaker 2: Good player, but just like in terms of what was
available out there, he was the premier piece, and I
think you go get him, and I think what he
does is that it's a definitive problem solver. It works,
It's you don't have to worry about guard anymore. If
that's like he thrives in the system and all that stuff,
and you know, fits in a launch some other guys
and they become a really good group. But it just
feels like the guy at that right age, at that
right price, at that right talent level, where like all
the accesses met and you go out and you get
them and it's not like a reckless signing. It's it's
it's foundational, it's it's the right timeline, it's all these things,
and and I just you know, that's the spot where
I don't want him to play around. Looks like you
can't afford to have those kind of variances there when
you're trying to get a rookieker. Well, now it's teching
your quarterback settled in. And you know, I think he
egoes a long way toward doing that. And in terms
of passpro, like sujer Reeves's issues aren't really in past pro.
I think he's decent there. It's the run blocking with
them that that needs to be way way better. So
I think, like past pro all five, if Banks takes
that step that you're you're looking for him to take,
if Fuaugus Sting's healthy, Edwards it's McCoy's I guess. I
guess as we're going through it, there's still a decent
amount of ifs. But I think overall, like the pieces
of that for them to actually be pretty good, and
you're not putting in your hopes to Trevor Penning anymore,
who I can't believe he signed on day one a
free agency by the way, But yeah, I think I
think that that was a huge move for them, Like
it's it's shifting it and it settles like the most
unsettling spot on the team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Nick, So I'm watching I think I was watched
Pat McAfee yesterday while I was sitting in my office
and I'm watching, like just the news flood in, like
there was something happen in every thirty seconds, it seemed
like and like to my shock in all and and
I was very happy about it. Like a lot of
Saints news came in within that first hour. So the
Saints make three, I least three moves like within that
first hour, which tells me they got they identified somebody
that position, they made the move, they made the offer
and signed their first choice. And there's we just talked
about David Edwards at guard a punter, Ryan right, and
then Travis Etn of course at running back. So it's
like it to me, it seems like they identified somebody
the top on their list and they got it done
within the first hour of this thing.
Speaker 5: Open it up.
Speaker 3: So is that how you like saw the whole thing
going down yesterday?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Actually, yeah, I mean, like those those are the
two guys leaving the combine that that we really felt
like these these are the guys that are gonna end
up go getting is Uh at the end and Edwards
were the two guys that I thought they would definitely target.
The punter surprised me. It's like going out and getting
right that that didn't That wasn't necessarily something that I was.
Speaker 5: There was like four punters like the first hour yesterday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like Gillikim was one of them, and that's something
that they absolutely had to do though, like that that's
gonna be if he's the guy he was in Minnesota. Like,
I think you just solved one of your other biggest problems.
The way they approach special teams last year was embarrassing.
And that's a whole different conversation. But yeah, look, the
running back I think makes a ton of sense too.
Speaker 4: And I think the thing.
Speaker 2: That that makes the most sense here is well here
let me ask you guys this, going back to twenty
twenty two, how many thirty yard runs do you think
the Saints have had by a running back?
Speaker 3: Oh, my gosh, by a running back, I would say
less than five. It feels like, I mean, I know
that number is incredibly low.
Speaker 5: But the way that question is one one okay wow.
Speaker 2: And the runner was odric Es today. So there are
one thirty yard run since twenty twenty two, and you know,
at the end and he's got twelve over the same sping,
he's got a seventy yarder, So I think you get
a home run hitter there. So that's that's one part
of it. And then the other thing too is last year,
I think a lot of Tuesday mornings we were talking
about the wrong game, and the thing I kept staying is, boy,
they keep trying to run inside zone from shotgun and
that's it's not Alvin Kamares game. If you do the
breakdown to all his runs by type and formation, and
that that's his absolute worst run. It's it's the thing
at the end does best like he's excellent at that,
and that's where he thrives from. So I think, you know,
to your point, like that identified a guy that fit
and then they go out and get them, which yeah,
obviously that that's what you should be doing. But you
know a lot of times in pre agency you see
people just making splashes and going for guys, and you know,
they just collect players and kind of hope for the best.
Like I think the Saints are being aggressive, but I
think they're being really smart about it too, And like
it just feels a little bit tailored made all the
way across the board, and you know, it's gonna be
interesting to see how those two fit together. You know,
I think that there's a very tailored role for album
where I think he can still be a very, very
excellent player. You know, you kind of get him in
those right spots. The outside zone is what he's really
good at. Get him out there and that I think
you can put both those guys on the field and
kind of create some stuff formationally, And now you got
two tight ends too with with Juwan and Fant. I
think there's a lot of stuff you can do to
open up the field with those guys and kind of
get the personnel out there on defense that you want
and then dictate some of the auction. So I think
it just opens up a lot of creativity. But also,
like the Olvin situation, you know, I don't know for
a reason he leaves, we shouldn't or if you're trying
to connect dots because he's twenty nine. But like the
way they handled this contract and then bringing in this
guy like it it looks it looks you know, there's
at least as a reporter, you got to say, huh,
like I wonder what's going on here, Like.
Speaker 4: Is there something going on?
Speaker 2: Sometimes there's not. Often there's not, but it certainly has
a rock there now that I'm trying to look on
her and figure out what's going on, Like, it does
feel different. So we'll kind of see how that goes.
But yeah, I think with those two guys, I think
your offense has changed. And then on top of that,
like man, one of the things they really did great
last year I thought was was attacking up the seams
like that was that was the play every time they
came out in the third quarter. It's like, wow, why
are they all of a sudden moving the ball And
it's like they just started viciously attacking them teams. And
I think you got too of those guys now with
Fan and Juwan. The thing I like about don't again
with the whole fit thing. That was the guy they
were trying to sign last year. They brought him in
for a visit and he just ended up picking since
Cincinnati instead, So like, you know, it's a guy you
identified that was available nine a year later, like he's
still you know, on your radar as a guy. It
wasn't just like a we need it tight and it
was like, no, they actually like this guy and they're
bringing him in four point five forty many years ago.
But I mean that's a lot of speed, he blocks,
he's a solid receiver. So I think I think now
just your offense isn't just all eleven personnel, or when
you go twelve it isn't you know, you got one
tight on that can catch a pass. Like I think
there's a lot of stuff they can do now.
Speaker 6: Nick Underhill New Ones dot Football as our guest here
on OTB. All right, so after free agency now we're
kind of turning our attention maybe to the draft, and
they're still going to be more in free agency certainly,
but after day one, what does that do for the
same draft we were talking about it a little bit earlier.
I know there's teams that are certainly right behind in
New Orleans that have major positions of need that the
Saints also kind of have a need there, and so
they could be a team that teams could try to
call it to try to trade with in the draft,
just not Mickey's m O. We know that, but we're
talking about maybe Monsieur de Laine out of LSU. Maybe
corner you lose Alante Taylor there, you need somebody that's
the top tier corner. Where do you think they turned
their attention to coming up in April?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he becomes more interesting. He was always someone that
I you know, he's not next, like, he's definitely in
that bubble of guys you're looking at at eight. So
I can see that for sure, you know, I do
think what I've heard is that their preference for there's
slot players that is more of a safety text that
they wanted to be more of like a you know,
an overhand type player that can do some stuff there.
So I don't know how that attects things. But if
you can get a top tier corner, like I think
there's room for competition, even as much as that I
like Calloyd and Quincy Riley like, I think there's definitely competition,
even if it's just just some of those outside spots.
So my door will be open to that. My door
is wide open to sunny styles, especially now you know
that the Mario's gone.
Speaker 4: You know, look, I don't think it closes the door to.
Speaker 2: Anything, honestly, Like I would still all the guys I
was looking at before, I'm still looking at And if
you think Jeremiah Love is far and away the best player,
like just drafted, who cares if you already got two guys.
One of them's out of here in a year twenty seventeen.
They signed Adrian Peterson. They had mark Ingram in his
prime new contract. I think he signed that in fifteen,
so he's still on a fresh deal. And they didn't
just draft out and they traded back in to get them,
and you know that worked out pretty well too, So
just get the absolute best player you can. I think
they're in a position now where they can really do
that in the first two rounds. I don't think you're
pigeonholed to anything, but I think you're still wide open
enough that you can do anything. I think they're kind
of in an advantageous situation in terms of building because
like it isn't how you got to get to tackle.
You know, going to trade up a week before the
draft and we're just gonna take whatever it's and it's
Trevor Penning, like you know, you don't you don't need
to approach it like that. So I think they can
still kind of do anything. You know, I badly need
the the the wide receiver still, I think that's that's
a major need. But I think they can do anything.
But yeah, I like delaying there quite a bit. I mean,
I think that's a position where they can get a
lot better at.
Speaker 4: And I was definitely surprised that a want they.
Speaker 2: Got twenty million a year. But good for him. I
just don't think he was worth that to the Saints.
Speaker 3: What kind of deal do you think the Saints offered
to Mario Davis to stay?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think. I don't think they probably overextended
themselves too much. I mean, eleven millions a decent amount,
but it's not that that's not a number. If you
pulled me a week ago, I wouldn't have thought it
was preventative. I'm not gonna lie, like, I'm really surprised
he went to the Jets, like I thought. I thought
he was gonna lead, but I thought it was going
to be the like the Rams or something like that.
The Jets was was surprising to me. So I mean
that that kind of tells me a couple of things
like I don't think that they were fighting to keep
them too too art Like I think they wanted to
keep them. But you know, they can say whatever they
want at a podium, but like your actions or your
actions and your actions are the truth. And you know,
they didn't want to go to twelve million dollars a
year or whatever. And it's tough, like you know, if
you're a team in their situation, like it's it's I
don't know.
Speaker 4: It's just kind of hard to articulate because like I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to sound like I'm coming down on him
or anything like that. Like a great player, great locker
room guy, Hall of Famer, Ring of Honor, Saints Hall
of Famer, can'ton Like I really think he's done enough
to get into the actual Hall of Fame. You know,
I think he's you know, people I've watched just my
actual lifetime, Like I can't go back to the seventies
and you know, all these great linebackers back down, but
in my lifetime, a top five linebacker. I also think
if you're a team that's in the middle of a rebuild,
if they had signed a thirty seven year old that
played for a different team, we.
Speaker 4: Would have been like what are they doing?
Speaker 2: You know, like I know it's your own guy, so
it's a little bit different. But I'd rather object.
Speaker 4: A year earlyer than a year late, like where they're at.
Speaker 2: Right now, you know, in twenty eighteen, if if you're
a super Bowl contender, like I'd rather be maybe late
on some of those things then early, because you're you're
trying to maximize your your today. But I think the
saint's got to be thinking about tomorrow as well as
today right now. And you know, I just don't know.
I don't know what year two of that looks like.
And you drafted Danny Stutsman.
Speaker 4: You're trying to get him in there.
Speaker 2: You're trying to see what he looks like. So I mean,
like there's things that makes sense here to me. And
I also at the same time, I think it's a
catastrophic loss just in terms of like identity, you know,
because it's can still a free agent too, like if both.
Speaker 4: Those guys leave, like who are you? Who are your leaders?
Speaker 2: Like you got read and you know, I don't think
there's anyone else like.
Speaker 4: That that I that I really look at.
Speaker 2: Is this guy's a leader on the team most times
of the ball pots from Moreau was like the leader
of the offense. You know, I don't know if he's
coming back now that they got fan, So I don't
know where the leadership is at all on this team
right now. So I mean, I think that's a bigger
deal to me than maybe the the the on field.
I think you can replace the onfield, you know, I
think they'll obviously be a little bit worse.
Speaker 4: I think I think there's.
Speaker 2: Probably a reality where if their lock backers don't work out,
like their run defense could be a disaster because like
their front wasn't great and they were winning a lot
on run defense because to Mario is so great at
diagnosing and anticipating.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: But I don't think the range is quite there the
way it was either. It's like, you know, I don't
think he allowed a lot of bleeding. That like when
he allowed bleeding, it probably bled a little bit more
than then it than it should have, you know, And
we'll to see where that access goes going for But look,
if he told me he gets another two year deal
after this one, I would absolutely believe it. Because of
the way he takes care of his body, the way
he prepares all that stuff, and you know, I think
I think even is that going back like to what's
lost Like that example, I think is a huge loss,
even even beyond the on field. So I think it's
it's all the stuff behind the scenes that scares me
more than like what's on the field. So yeah, uh.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like action speaks for the Saints, like you
really can't hear what you're saying, Like nobody's choosing the
Jets over a team that they're going to be in
the Ring of Honor for like if it's a competitive offer,
So that tells me there was not a competitive offer
from this.
Speaker 4: I agree on hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like exactly, like if if it's a
ton of a million and you got a team on
its way to winning versus where are the Jets doing?
By the way, like this is this is exactly the
example too.
Speaker 4: Like you don't want to be making a move.
Speaker 2: Like that to try to save yourself, like because the
head coach in the GM are praid to getting fired,
so they're signing a thirty seven year old from another team,
But you don't want to be that team. That's not
what you want to be building your roster, right, now
I'm shocked on all ends on that, like why why
are the Jets making that move? And like why is
the Mario going there?
Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean it does. Yeah, it tells you
that the market isn't quite what it was.
Speaker 2: And the most desperate team made the most desperate offer.
Speaker 4: And you know, I'm just I'm just really.
Speaker 2: Surprised that he's going there. But but he's you know,
he deserves it. He's at the end of his career,
like set up your security, and you know, I can't
argue with the logic, but I was surprised by it.
Speaker 6: We were talking a little bit earlier because Okay, he
goes to the Jets, what do you do at linebacker?
Like Sessimen doesn't seem like somebody that's ready to be
the full time Mike linebacker.
Speaker 5: You've got some options.
Speaker 6: You've got a Bobby Wagner, Levonte, David kay Nellis reunion.
There's guys out there that you can sign to a
one two year deal that would be that veteran presence
to kind of replace what the Mario Davis was for you.
And we talked about the leadership role just then as well.
They give you kind of both of those things. Is
that the path you see the Saints going down.
Speaker 2: I think they could definitely added that position. I know
there's like a lot of Davin Lloyd Grummers. I have
a pretty pretty strongly that they that they were not
in that market. So I don't think they were kicking
the wheels there at all. But I can definitely see
him making a move there. And I think I think
probably the next couple of days, like I think we're
probably going to see some defense editions. I won't be
surprised to see a kicker and our returner added to
the team too. And as it pertains to the draft,
I think I think probably you know, the odds of
you know, if there's a point flip, I think defense
probably wins early. Now just give them what you've kind
of done offensively. But like I'm I'm pleased with the
way they're building the team because like badline to me,
like everything is what are they doing for the young quarterback?
And you know, I have major concerns about the defense
that we already you lost, you lost the corner and
you lost the linebacker. Like their defense is objectively gonna
be worse right now until they make other moves. So Yeah,
I think they're definitely gonna do some things. I think
they got to add to it, and I wouldn't be
surprised at all to see just even if it's it's
like a mid gear linebacker that you're.
Speaker 4: Like, all right, well, this guy gives like a decent
base one like a AJ.
Speaker 2: Clin type player, Like you put him out there, probably
not gonna define your defense, but he's gonna at least
plug the gap and then Stutsman can compete with him
and either he beats him out or he doesn't, and
you're okay either way. Like I think at the very
least that needs to happen. Now, if you have a
chance to elevate there, I think you've got to take it.
But yeah, both those spots man like they're and those.
Speaker 4: Are the two energy players too. On the defense, the
Mario brought his own.
Speaker 2: Brand of energy. You know, I think it was like
kind of like having the Angel and the double energy,
Like I think, you know, the Mario brought the God
energy and the and a lot they brought the demon energy,
but like where's the energy on the defense, And I
think that really matters too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all Nick, let's get the let's get the free agency,
Crystal ball out god, Nick prediction, Nick stra damis here
we go? What other Yeah, workshopping yesterday whatever? What other
moves do you see them making? What positions you see
them making? If any?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they're gonna get a kicker.
I think they need to get a returner. You know.
I think, like I was saying, like the way they
approach special teams last year was was was borderline embarrassing.
You know, they tried with the pineer saw getting credit
for that. You know, Kicker went sideways on them.
Speaker 4: But like you cut J. T.
Speaker 2: Gray, you change schemes, all your special teams, linebackers no
longer fit and get cut and you just had a
bunch of guys out there and it was a disaster.
Like so they got it. They got him on the
backs there, like that's that's a bad area. And they
already have so so on that you know, that's a plus.
I think we'll see some.
Speaker 4: Type of receiver too somewhere. I know they got a
bunch of lottery tickets on the on the.
Speaker 2: Roster, but they got to get somebody else there. And
I think just that that that linebacker at some level,
I think that's definitely something they got to do too. Also,
the rundown of moves that you were talking about before
we short changed John Ridgeway, that was the Vergers. They
made a free agency.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they resigned the backup VP for for like six
million bucks over two years. So uh, that was that
was wild. Like all these moves are hitting. Then it's
like John.
Speaker 4: Ridgeway, it's like all right, like this is where it's
sorry John, John?
Speaker 5: Uh, when's the fullback signing?
Speaker 2: They don't use the fullback?
Speaker 4: Man, I don't care when sid did you see.
Speaker 2: That the Morgan Freeman documentary. I'm that flicked about dinosaurs,
Like there.
Speaker 3: Was a okay, hey, the team that you cover didn't
make the postseason.
Speaker 5: Nice of you as a guest.
Speaker 3: There was four teams left in the postseason. Three of
them carried fullbacks.
Speaker 6: A Super Bowl champion kept two fullbacks on their fifty
three main roster the entire season.
Speaker 3: Both one seeds had a fullback. So hey, maybe the
Saints could learn something, Nick.
Speaker 2: Maybe we should send in some video to morg and
you can like narrate you in your natural environment.
Speaker 6: Like this very very Yeah, you're right, and then we'll
have both fullbacks hold up the Lombardi Trophy at the
end of the year.
Speaker 5: The final scene, both of them. I don't know, I'm sorry,
I think I'm sorry. I got apologize for my co
host here.
Speaker 6: It's really oh so, eighty five percent of the teams
that made the postseason carried a fullback.
Speaker 5: And then we want to talk about the top ten pick.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I'll give it you the the Kubiak Shanahan offense.
Like you know, they've brought you guys back to life
a little bit. There's a little bit of gloria there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, alec Ingols tign's seven and a half million dollars yesterday.
But anyways, all right, Nick, we appreciate you, Thank you, sir.
We'll catch up again next week. An I guess you
to hate championships.
Speaker 5: That's weird. Brought them back to life. There's a fullback like.
Speaker 6: Eagles signed for two year, seven and a half million
dollars with the Los Angeles Chargers yesterday.
Speaker 5: M Like the dinosaurs, though, there's a they made the playoffs.
The mosquito that was you hate winning? That's fine. A
fossil and what is it is? It was it amber?
It's an old sap so.
Speaker 3: You're telling John Snyder doesn't know how to do his
job when he had two full backs.
Speaker 5: That's weird.
Speaker 3: Both one seeds had a full back. Both teams in
Super Bowl had a full back.
Speaker 5: That's weird.
Speaker 3: Sensitivity fun, No, just sticking up from my people, the
loyal lawyers deal sensitivity.
Speaker 5: We know everybody's got to have a quarterback. A couple
of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a couple fullbacks on the champion. All right,
we'll take a break. More OTB when we come back
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Speaker 5: USA.
Speaker 3: Don't give me that one second. I'm start calling you
musso can't figure out the tech over there.
Speaker 5: USA.
Speaker 6: In the World Baseball Classic, Yeah, they defeat Mexico for
the first time in a long time. Mexico kind of
had their numb in baseball a lot like US has
their number in soccer. But they finally get it done.
I believe five to three was the final score. So
that was that was very fun to watch last night.
Stayed up right before you go to bed, see the
little Team USA action.
Speaker 5: There's a couple of brawls in the stance. Yeah, I
did see that. That's pretty good videos.
Speaker 3: But look, the World Baseball Classic has been a lot
of fun, a lot of emotion, a lot of passion.
Speaker 6: We talk about it all the time. We played like
the literal one professional sport. You can't really represent your
country in which kind of sucks. Always wanted to do that,
but it's so cool to see the passion that everybody has.
And by the way, I do want to talk about
the players trying to shake the catcher's hands and the
catchers saying no, and everybody kind of getting up in arms,
because yesterday there was a pair of Seattle Mariner teammates
that the batter tried to shake the catcher's hand.
Speaker 5: He's like, no, and what's going on here?
Speaker 6: Well, the reason is the catcher doesn't want to get
pine tar on his hand and then get it on
the ball and then throw it back to the ball.
Then the picture is in the situation because there's a
substance on the ball on his hand, and so it
makes a lot of sense. Whenever they actually break it down,
there's no beef between teammates, like I didn't want to
get a bunch of pine.
Speaker 5: I don't know there. I mean, you could fist bump,
you could bump. He stuck his hand out, so that's yeah.
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of awkward white guy handshakes out there,
like you could fist bump.
Speaker 5: He didn't want to be a meme.
Speaker 3: And then his teammate after the game actually talked a
lot of ish about him and told him to g
t H.
Speaker 5: Basically, g t H no, go to H double hockey sticks,
you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look, you want to get Pine Taro's hand, chill
out brou Here is an incredible video.
Speaker 5: Don't like video. I don't know.
Speaker 7: We were doing a video, so I.
Speaker 5: Had to get this sound good.
Speaker 6: Here is an incredible video of Paul Skeins warming up
to the top theme music.
Speaker 5: Ah, that's fantastic. Of course, mos Kans Air Force, the
Air Force baseball team was in a tip. The entire
air well fantastic.
Speaker 3: There's two players that had experienced playing for the Air Force,
so clearly he wanted to do that, that to that song,
even though like you know, top guns far the Navy.
But still that's fine. Planes find the air yeah, ah,
so good. Even he goes out there and like strikes
out seven and four innings. Yeah, strikes out the most
of by any US pitcher in the last like three
World Baseball Classics.
Speaker 5: So it did pretty decent.
Speaker 3: Just on another level, I think, and yesterday, like he
plays with the Pirates, so of course here at LSU,
we all know him and people know him because of
the cy Young But I don't know if people it's
kind of like Trout and show Hey when they were
the Angels, Like I don't know if people all over
the country if I sat down and watched him pitch
in a big time game before ever outside of Louisiana
and outside of Pirate fans, right.
Speaker 7: I mean there's not really any big games that the
Pirates are in.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like like a governor on him and they like they.
Speaker 7: Traded McCutchen or they didn't re sign McCutchen, which I
don't know what that organization is doing, but well.
Speaker 5: I mean they're like one of the worst in the history.
Speaker 3: But it was just funny, like to see their response
about skiing on social media, Like I know Kevin Durant
was in the stands because they kept showing it, but
like he tweeted out like now Skins is a dog
like like people is the first time people are watching
him pitch.
Speaker 5: He's like he does this every time he goes out there.
Speaker 7: Welcome to Paul Skins.
Speaker 5: Welcome to Paul Skins.
Speaker 1: See the.
Speaker 7: Paul Skin's notorious for being just straight faced, no emotions,
like just a very serious about his business.
Speaker 4: Guy.
Speaker 7: Did you see him smiling at your boy yesterday? Bobby
with guy? Maybe you could find I don't know if
we've ever seen Paul Skins smile before. It was not
even after winning.
Speaker 3: But yeah they have, Like there was a going on
social media, was like a still shot with him like
sitting next to.
Speaker 7: But he got drafted or something like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, was like sitting there to be.
Speaker 3: Fair, I think that's actually when he won Rookie of
the it was it was there's nobody was getting drafted
by the pirates.
Speaker 7: Well there was one where he got drafted and then
like the rook in the year one was when he
like made an effort to not look that way speaking.
Speaker 6: Of the Rookie of the Year, was like was effortlessly
pitching out there, Like that's what makes it so cool.
Speaker 5: Yeah, not just the emotion, but it.
Speaker 7: Looks so his mechanics are unreal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I think that's what I mean, he's going
to place. That's why we said, like those small boys
need to be pitching in the high nineties.
Speaker 5: Look at this right when he that's as much as
you're getting to your point about no small boys. Somebody
in the chat made a good point.
Speaker 3: They're like Paul Skins left the Air Force because he
realized he's too big to be a fighter.
Speaker 5: Bout right. Well, so I see like so huks playing baseball.
Speaker 3: So I get a lot of these youth baseball things
fed to me, Like I see a lot of these
high school kids that are throwing like ninety eight, ninety nine,
and it looks like so hard. Yeah, like their arms
about to rip off their their shoulder when they're doing this,
at least their elbow and then but you see Paul
Skins doing like he's a bigger guy. His mechanics are
perfect and it's just very effortless. Like you if you
get effortlessly, do you should do it? If you have
to create it with so much whip that you're you're
not gonna be able to lift your arm up at
thirty like, you shouldn't do it, Well, you should just
stayed until.
Speaker 7: Thirty Yeah, you should read hug his letter that he
wrote to the little leaguers who did Player's Tribune.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh I did, and see that.
Speaker 7: It's good. The Players Tribune is such a good platform
that they made.
Speaker 5: I agree hardly.
Speaker 7: I I love the Players Tribute.
Speaker 6: I would love for a Louisian sports dot net to
have something like if we could partner.
Speaker 3: I know it's hard to partner now in il Ah,
but if like we could partner. I thought about that,
if we could partner with LSU athletes or Louisiana athletes
didn't have to be LSU to like do something like
that once every however so often every couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: I think that would be well received. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Maybe I love it. I enjoy reading it. I don't
read a lot I read that.
Speaker 7: I'm pretty sure Derek Jeter is the one who made it,
the players rebuting.
Speaker 5: Captain.
Speaker 3: Anyway, I loved the game last night. Well, bab was awesome.
I'm a stitch yad now. I was locked in. It
felt like October playoff backs when you Texas, Hey is
Bobby wit Junior?
Speaker 5: This good? All the time, I was like, oh, he's in,
He's Bob, I'm your jersey, I'm your yuh. Do we
know a team he plays for you yet? Royals? He
has the card.
Speaker 7: That's why he knew because I said, he asked that,
and I said, Bobby Wood Junior would be a really
good card to have right now.
Speaker 5: Bobby Jr. Case at a lot of times, and I
was real discussed. I tried to it off on the laundry.
He was like, I got one, but it's for sale.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 7: The Dominican Republic though, just absolutely dominating.
Speaker 6: Oh, Israel, it's gonna be Dominican Republic, Japan and USA.
There's gonna be the three.
Speaker 7: Teams too now to now, Damn, I don't a line
dropping bombs.
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OTB when we come back here live from the Raisin
Gaines studio.
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Speaker 3: There's going to be another wave of free agent signings
in the National Football League looking forward to that.
Speaker 5: Some of the big spenders in the first day.
Speaker 3: The Saints were included in that list, but the Raiders,
they spent dollar dollar bills.
Speaker 5: They spent more than Titans.
Speaker 6: You want to talk about completely resetting the market for Sinners,
Tyler Lindenbaum, I mean, they blew past whatever the previous
record was, and so the Raiders, and I actually think
they had to I talked about this on NFL Radio yesterday.
Speaker 3: They didn't really have a choice. They kind of had
to do it.
Speaker 6: Like Fernando Mendow is going to be their one overall pick.
Ashon genty is a top ten back. You have a
lot of assets in like you had to fortify the
offensive line. You didn't really have a choice. So you
go pay Tyer Lindenbaum more than any Sinners ever made
by a lot. You're probably gonna draft one at fourteen
with the pick you got for Max Crosby. After us,
like Fernando Mendows is number one overall, because even if
you have other needs, you have to protect your biggest assets,
which are going to be the quarterback you took one
to one and the running back you took in the
top ten.
Speaker 3: This is a I didn't even know this about this,
Tyler Linderbaum. Three year, eighty one million dollars to play
the center position. Now, the center, don't get it twisted.
Speaker 6: The Raiders, by the way, to your question, they spent
three hundred and twenty two million dollars on eight players.
The Titans spent two hundred and seventy million on seven players.
Speaker 5: The center position is wildly important. Yep. They have to
be smart like so I was like I was.
Speaker 3: Always The notion was the closer you get to the ball,
the higher football IQ you have to have. There's more
things you have to know. So of course the centers
center the quarterback thing. Only two people that touch the
ball every single play. The center position is wildly important.
The center position is not as important as the Raiders
just made it three years, eighty one million dollars.
Speaker 5: They have a lot of money to spend. They had
like the top three cap.
Speaker 3: I got it, I got you. But at the center position,
I don't know who they were bidding against. For one,
he gets paid way more than any center ever has,
so I don't know who they're if they're rewarding him
or what. But the center from a physical standpoint is
probably the I don't even want to say the easiest position,
because they're all really hard. It's the least hard position physically,
you get the least amount of one on one battles,
you get help from me to guard on either side
of you. I've I was just part of multiple teams
that had experienced other alignment and would throw in a
rookie or young guy center who was smart and could
make all the calls. They could handle anything, but with
the help that they get on their left and right
shoulder all the time. Hey, if you're paying twenty five
plus million dollars, you need to Usually that consists of
a guy that has to be physically more. I will
say I was in the completely different scenario.
Speaker 6: We had Nick Hardwick, who was like a very veteran player,
all Pro pull Bowl guy, and then we had Dan Copen,
who was Tom Brady center for a long time, and
then he came to us in Denver at the end
of his career.
Speaker 3: I was in a different situation. I've certainly heard of
situations like you're talking about, and that's fine, but like
still to pay him that much above market value? Was
he that important? Like because I was like in Seattle,
Max Hunger was there. Yeah, fantastic center, right, but still
it still wasn't like the most physically challenging position to
play on the field. And like I say that with
as much respect as I can, that's just like the
rule of thumb that where everybody went, like the closer
yard of the ball, the smarter you have to be,
and like the less like physically dominant you have to
be unless you're going to get to like unless you're
in division with a ton of odd fronts, then it
changes a little bit because you can have to see
a little bit, but you're also doing a lot of
three and fourmants odd fronts. Like if we got odd
fronts and two jet three jet projection game, it was
just it was it was we ripped and lizards where
it was a four man slide because you you locked
down one side, you have your back go to the mic,
to the to the nicol sam.
Speaker 5: Or whatever it is.
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of slide protection. So anyway, very
important position. I love like I always had great relationships
with the centers. That's like the biggest, like the biggest
chemistry that some people have to have as a quarterback,
a center have to have a wild chemistry.
Speaker 5: But this is a wildly overpaid. It's a lot of money.
It's a lot of money for much less.
Speaker 6: I think this was because you're bidding against nobody. Classic
like the Ravens didn't tag him because he would have
had to have a franchise tag at the left tackle number.
So that's why they didn't tag him. There's no left
tackle or sorry tackle in general, tackle, guard, center, off
of the line. Franchise tag numbers all the same, so
you're not gonna pay a center whatch you pay a
top to your tackle. So the Humphrey was probably set.
Speaker 5: You got twenty seven a year, three countries, eighteen million
a year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's half of I mean that's see Humphreys.
Speaker 5: Maybe it's a lot, it's a significant overpay. Yeah, the
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