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Berg wrote some years ago, journalism is about covering important

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stories with a pillow until they stop moving, and that

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is no less true today. In fact, if you want

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a real time example of it, just look at the

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coverage today as a matter of fact, and yesterday, in

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the day before, and then the weekend.

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Speaker 1: Basically.

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Speaker 2: Ever since Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence, released

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the first batch of declassified documents regarding Spygate or Russia Gate,

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I don't really know if everybody is agreed on a

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single gate to name this scandal, which just grows by

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the day, and today there are more documents that have

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been dumped, declassified and the media.

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Speaker 1: According to Matt Vespa and I completely.

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Speaker 2: Agree, the media met Vespa, writing at town hall dot com,

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is racing to suffocate the Russian collusion documents that Gabbard

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released because a lot of their friends and sources could

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be indicted for what appears to be a political operation

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that borders on treason. Barack Obama ordered a new intelligence

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community assessment. You're gonna hear me reference this and if

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it sounds familiar, I covered this a couple of weeks

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ago when John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, put out his

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report that covered some of these same components. But now

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we've got now we have the confirmation. This is what

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we call in the journalism business. Evidence, despite what a

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lot of your legacy outlets are calling, you know, without evidence.

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Donald Trump said Obama committed treason without evidence, you know,

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or he stated without evidence Obama committed treason, which he did.

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Speaker 1: I've got the audio, we'll play it.

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Speaker 2: In late twenty sixteen, Obama ordered a new ICA intelligence

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community assessment. He ordered this to be done so it

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would comport with the Russian collusion narrative, which we all

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know has been debunked, which then that ICA then weaponized

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the intelligence community to derail the incoming Trump administration. The

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fake narrative was to be disseminated to the media along

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with targeted media leaks to create as much chaos as possible.

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Matt Taibi runs Racket News, independent journalist. He points out

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that the effect of this was to paralyze Donald Trump's

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first term, and he is exactly correct. This consumed everything.

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This led to Trump's impeachment. The first one, right, that

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the perfect phone call to the Ukrainian president Zelenski. Right,

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there's a through line across all of it, because simply

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asking Zelenski to hey, let me know what's going on

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with this corruption stuff was then seen as some sort

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of a demand for a quid pro.

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Speaker 1: Quo in service to putin.

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Speaker 2: Gabbert's document dump, According to Vespa, obliterated the core of

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the collusion.

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Speaker 1: Delusion.

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Speaker 2: The intelligence community concluded that Russia did not possess the

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ability to impact the twenty sixteen election in the manner

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that the media, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party were all

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suggesting on a daily basis, So Obama ordered a new

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assessment to be compiled, one that included the Steele Dossier.

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The Steele Dossier was a Clinton campaign funded opposition research

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project that is littered with known Russian disinformation to say

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what the Intel community assessed was not actually true. I'm

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going to say that part again. The Intel community had

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already assessed that this was not true, yet it was

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put into a revised Presidential Daily Briefing as part of

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an ICA. So if you hear the term PDB, that's

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the Presidential Daily Briefing. So this is a this is

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a scandal. Tayebi called it an enormous story, rivaled only

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by the WMD story that the Intel community sold. And

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this is another reason why, by the way, there is

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this hyper focus on the Epstein story. Will they release

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the files? Will they not release the files? Why won't

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they talk about it? He's deflecting because he's in the

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files and everything, like all of the Epstein focus. And

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I'm not saying i'd like I'm so here's what I've

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been saying this for years now.

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Speaker 1: Just give it some time on the you know.

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Speaker 2: With all of the latest developments in the news cycle.

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Trust me, I've been doing this a long time, okay,

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And I have never seen a news cycle that moves

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as quickly as ours does now. And a lot of

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that is driven by Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 2: He is a force of nature. He moves the news

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cycles in ways that I learned in the first term

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that are really unrivaled by anybody else. So as a host,

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I will tell you like I made a point, a

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conscious effort to not have my show dictated to me

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every day by whatever the president at the time was tweeting, right,

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because that's what that's what was driving the new cycle

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every single day. I try to do these deep dives.

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lot of the information. It's this is the reason I

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went into the hosting line of work from being a reporter.

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As a reporter in the radio world, you get forty

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five seconds at most to tell a story, and that's

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a very difficult thing to do, but I did it amazingly.

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But no, I wanted to tell more of the story.

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I wanted to go deeper into the details because I

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feel like a lot of times people who are listening

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to the story in a forty five second package, they're

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not getting the full depth and context of the story.

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So much of journalism is about creating the timeline and

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documenting the timeline, and then plugging pieces of information into

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that timeline in order to then detect whatever the pattern

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is or the way something developed, and that's what we

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are witnessing right now in real time. It has taken, yes,

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a decade, almost a decade, but sometimes that's how long

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it takes to reconstruct something. When the people who hold

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the power and created the conspiracy bury this stuff so deep,

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and but for his election victory in twenty twenty four,

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we would not have this information. And I know that

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to be true because it was buried when he was

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out of office. It's only his administration in round two,

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it's only the people that he has brought in that

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have made it a point to get this information out.

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That's the only reason we have it. Two components to

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keep in mind throughout all of this. On the Spygate

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Russia collusion hoax, Yes, there was a finding that Russia

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meddled in the twenty sixteen election. That has been confirmed

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across various assessments, bipartisan agreement. Russia is always messing around

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in our elections, but they lacked the capability to hack

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our voting machines, one of the reasons why we have

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state elections not a national system, harder to hack. But

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also they thought Hillary was going to win. So the

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first finding is yes, they meddled. But the second part

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is to motive why were they meddling? And the key,

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the core assessment that came from the Obama administration Intel

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assessment was the reason that they were meddling was to

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what help Donald Trump win?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: That they aspired to put Trump into office? That was

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the key finding, the key judgment as it's called in

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the assessment. And where did that come from? That came

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from the Steele dossier?

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Speaker 1: And why?

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Speaker 2: Because they obviously had control over Trump that was the implication, right,

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And how did they have control over him? Again Steele dossier.

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They had compromid on him, compromising material, They had the

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pe tape, they knew about the you know, the wizen

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on the beds with the hookers and such, which was

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all a fabrication, a lie, when in fact Putin and

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the Russians thought Hillary was going to win, and they

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were okay with that because they actually had stuff on

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her that would make her more amenable to them. They

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actually preferred she win if they had any preference at all,

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which there really isn't an indication that they did.

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Speaker 1: They just assumed she would.

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Speaker 2: Win because everybody assumed she would win. So why are

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they meddling in the election to cause chaos. And I

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said this back in like twenty seventeen. The Russians just

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want to sow chaos. It's why they set up Facebook

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groups pro BLM and ANTIBLM, fake Facebook groups and such.

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In fact, they even some Russian connected people set up

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some rally here in Charlotte. It's like a Black Matters

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Live or something like that. It's like a play on

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the BLM thing. They want to sew chaos, to tear

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down the institutions of our society, to breed distrust. The motive, Well,

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that was a lie, and that came from Obama and

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his Intel chiefs. All right, if you're listening to this show,

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A message from the text line perfect example of what

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I was talking about from data. If this was true,

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meaning the spygate, Russia Gate, whatever you want to call

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it gate. If this was true, it would have been

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brought forth earlier. Straight distraction from Epstein. One of the

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hardest things to admit, Dana, is that you have been deceived.

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Very difficult. It's actually more difficult for people who are

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smarter because they think they're too smart to be deceived.

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You've been deceived. And by the way, if I were

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to apply your logic there to the Epstein stuff, wouldn't

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that be the same case, right that Democrats had control

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of the White House and all of the DOJ They

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could have released all of the Epstein files when they

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were in charge, but they didn't, and now they want

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them released. So maybe that's a distraction from something too.

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Here's the thing, this is a false choice you are

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presenting me, And you know me. I bristle at false choices.

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I recognize them almost immediately now people do them. So

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you're telling me that I can't both care about the

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Epstein files release and Spygate at the same time.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's just stupid. Of course I can.

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Speaker 2: You know how I know it because I just did

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the Epstein story a couple days ago.

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Speaker 1: I've covered it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, we've got updates coming down the pike right now.

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They're going to interview Gilaine Maxwell. You've got the Congressional

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Committee going to they sought to interview her from the

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prison that she's in. You've got the request to unseal

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the court documents. Like I'm going to let that play out,

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and when there's developments to be announced on that, we'll

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go over it again. Nobody is distracting me. Maybe it's

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distracting to you and you want everybody to focus all

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the time on the Epstein files. There are other things happening.

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This is a pretty important story. In fact, it's one

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of the most important stories because get this, the investigation,

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according to Matt Tayibe, the investigation and into conspiracy is

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not just during the twenty sixteen through twenty twenty timeframe.

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What Tayebe says, according to his DOJ sources, is that

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they are investigating this conspiracy through the Biden term. That

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the spying may have resumed or maybe never ended under

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Joe Biden's administration, that the spying continued on Trump campaign advisors,

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Trump world people, that this continued until Biden was out

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of office. That's a pretty big deal. I don't know

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about you, but that, to me, that's a pretty big deal.

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So here is the report from Reuter's, a legacy outlet,

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and so you're going to have to I'll point out

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the problems they're reporting because they would very much like

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this story to go away, much like people who are like,

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what about Epstein Fels, They say, oh, Trump wants this

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story to go away. Well, the media wants this story

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to go away. Now we're all even okay, So how

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about I just cover all of them. How about that,

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I'm just going to cover all of them. US President

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Donald Trump accused former President Barack Obama of treason yesterday,

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accusing him without providing evidence. Okay, that's false. That is false.

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There is evidence of this now. It is in the

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documents that have been declassified by Tulca Gabbard. There is evidence.

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So for you to say that Trump isn't offering evidence,

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well maybe Trump isn't.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I have the documents right here in my hand, and

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let me read from them at his you know, Oval

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Office press availability with the President of the Philippines when

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he was asked this question and he started talking about this.

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So no, he didn't have all of the declassified documents

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in his hands to show the media right then and there.

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But the media has got access to these documents. That's

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what he's talking about. That is what we call evidence.

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He says that Obama is guilty of treason for leading

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an effort to falsely tie him to Russia and undermine

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his twenty sixteen presidential campaign. And by the way, the

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comments from Trump yesterday and I've got them, we'll listen

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to them. But these comments now forces the media to

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cover it. Now they're covering it like Reuter's is covering it,

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and they're covering it from as Dana would like, you know,

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through this prism of the Epstein files. But they still

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have to cover some part of it, which they weren't doing.

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The Washington Post didn't even put anything in their paper

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about this when Gabbert released the classified files on Friday.

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This is from Bain Pete. Thank you for slowly breaking

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the timeline down. One additional need to do for the

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average person is to define terms. I heard comport. What

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does that mean? Well, let me google that for you.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: Comport means to make something match, basically, make something agree.

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So like you know, you need to comport yourself with

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our dress code, like that you need to align your self.

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And so for this intelligence community assessment, that has to

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comport with this motive that Putin wanted Trump to win.

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Like you're trying to make the ica match that preconceived motive, right,

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But you want the narrative, the story to be so

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you make the assessment comport with the narrative to make

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it match. And then way back, of course, the Steal dossier.

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Regular folks just tune out when fancy words are used.

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What the heck is a dossier? A dossier is like

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a file that you would compile on somebody. You get

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a lot of papers together about a detailed information about

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a person or a subject, and you put it into

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You make a file on somebody. So in like investigative

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work or spycraft, they call it a dossier. It has

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all of the details and information about the target or

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an ally or whatever, an agent. So that's what dossier means. Also,

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what does opposition research? What? Okay, Well, that's that's just

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what campaigns do, and if you're a good campaign, you

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do it on your own candidate. But usually it's like

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the opposition. Your opponent is going to do a bunch

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of research on you as a candidate to find as

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much dirt as possible. Right, And so when we say

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the Steele dossier was opposition research funded by the Hillary

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Clinton campaign and the Democratic Convention. Uh and uh, you know,

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funded through the cutout the bagman of Perkinskoy the lawyer

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and Mark Elias, the lawyer who worked for Perkins Cooey

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who assued North Carolina on all sorts of election related matters,

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the Democrat super.

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Speaker 1: Lawyer as they call him. That's what opposition research is.

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Speaker 2: So no, it's fair because I use these terms and

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I assume people know what they mean, So my apologies

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for that. So it's sometimes it's called oppo research. And

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you know, if I were running for office, I would

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have my team of opposition researchers not just research my opponent,

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but also research me and find out stuff that's out there,

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so we know what's out there on me, and then

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you have the response ready to go if the other guys,

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the opponents, opo researchers, find out that stuff on me,

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So that's opo research.

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Speaker 1: And then this, oh, that's not on topic.

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Speaker 2: Nevermind, let me go over to my Twitter feed and so, okay,

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I'm not going to be able to play all of

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the Trump clip here because I've talked too long reading messages.

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Let me read some more and I'll push the Trump

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clip or maybe I'll break it in half.

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Speaker 1: The media.

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Speaker 2: This is from moral compass. It's a pete tweet. The

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media is coverage of this coup reminds me of their

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coverage of the Twitter files. They try to read direct

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or assign motive as to why it is released now

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if they cover it at all.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is.

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Speaker 2: That's also a tactic that media likes to do as well.

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Where Oh but oh, I'm sorry, did you say the

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Twitter files?

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Speaker 1: Yes, so.

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Speaker 2: It's that why is this being released now? And let's

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ask all of these other questions rather than examine the

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evidence of the scandal. And this is journalism Ing rule

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number two, according to my well thought out and professionally

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constructed rules of Journalisming rule number two is that when

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the scandal is about a Republican, the story is the scandal.

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When the scandal involves a Democrat, well then the story

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is the Republican reaction to the scandal. Right, you don't

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go into the deep dive really on the information and

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evidence around the scandal. Well, you talk about how it's

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being weaponized against you know, the you know, heroic and

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courageous Democrats. How dare those evil villainous Republicans use this

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in order to harm the president's chances of something or other, right,

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And that's I mean, that's what this is. Like this

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headline from Reuters, Trump accuses Obama of treason in escalating

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attacks over twenty sixteen Russia probe. So what's the focus here.

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It's that Trump is accusing. Trump accuses Obama. Obama's the victim.

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Trump is the aggressor, right, But the evidence that has

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now been released indicates that actually the aggressor was Obama,

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and the timeline makes that very clear. I haven't even

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I haven't even done the TikTok on this thing, not

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the video, but the chronology of how this happened and

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first segment next hour, because it runs eight minutes a

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little bit over eight minutes, and so I don't have

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enough time in this segment to play it.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to break it up into two.

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Speaker 2: Different hours just for podcast purposes. If people are listening

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on the podcast, they won't they'll have to go back

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and listen to the last part anyway. So I'll start

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it in the next segment at the beginning of the

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next hour, and we'll hear all of President Trump's comments,

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because I've seen people chop these comments up and some

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of them you may be surprised to hear this, but

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some of them have been selectively edited. So I'll let

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you hear what he has to say about all of

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this in its entirety at the beginning of the next hour.

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Let me go to Twitter.

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Speaker 1: It's a Pete from it says Pete.

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Speaker 2: How about we all agree on the proper name of

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the various attempts to destroy Trump, the GOP and America

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should all be called Obama Gate. After all, it appears

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to be the outgrowth of Obama's personal desire to continue

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with his fundamental transformation of America. I have seen it

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referred to as Obama Gate, and that's as good a

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name as any.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we could.

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Speaker 2: Throw in stuff like the targeting of the Tea Party, right,

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we could throw that in there. I actually have a

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list here someplace. Let me see, I thought I had

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a list. Now, yeah, I had a list at some

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point of all of the different scandals, which remember the

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media told us that Barack Obama didn't have a single

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scandal except for the Tan suit.

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Speaker 1: Remember that. Yeah, I actually had a friend of.

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Speaker 2: Mine who's on the left make that they made that

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joke quote unquote joke, hahaha. You know in Trump's first term,

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oh man, I can remember when the only scandal is

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you know, Obama's tan suit, Like obviously she was just

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lifting that right off of the you know, the Daily

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Show or the Colbert Report or whatever it was. But

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it's just it's not true. As one who covered the

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Obama administration when I was a host, I remember the scandals.

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I covered the scandals. There were many scandals, fast and

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furious targeting of the tea party groups. I mean there

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were scandal Obamacare, the ramming throw of Obamacare, the bribes

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you know, to the various lawmakers to approve it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there were.

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Speaker 2: There were a lot of scandals. And I'm leaving a

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bunch out here. This is massive. And this is part

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of the problem, by the way, when you have an

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establishment legacy media complex that throws their lot in with

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a party, in particular a charismatic newly like Obama, and

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he realizes, they realize that they can get away with

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a lot more. And this is Remember the reason why

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I said I voted for Donald Trump was because this

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is the only way I know how to punish the

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media for not holding Democrats to the same standard when

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it comes to accountability and examination and you know, deep

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dives and trying to root out corruption and scandals and

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stuff like that. They give Democrats a pass. They go

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to sleep. When the when the Democrats take the White

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House and Trump being in there, I know they're going

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to be probing everything about all of his operations, everything

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he says, whatever they're going to do that. I would

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prefer that then the covering up of scandals and corruption.

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And because this is the prime example of it, it

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takes a decade and republic wins in order to get

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this stuff out because the media won't do it. And

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even when they're forced to do it, when Republicans take

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control of the White House, the House, the Senate, they

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get control of the apparatus, they do a remarkable thing

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that Trump has done, which is to you know, just

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boot all of these people out of the quote deep state,

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out of the administrative state, out of the executive branch,

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to clear out some of these people that are throwing

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sand in the gears of his administration and finding this

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stuff and releasing this stuff and putting it out there.

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But for that we would not know this. This is

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from somebody who refuses to name himself. Geez, brother, just

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be quiet and play it. Trying to hear before I

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have to get back from conch. I don't know what

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counscha oh. I think that means lunch, So yeah, I'm

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gonna play it. In the first segment, John in Jersey says,

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speculate a little bit. Will anybody be brought to justice

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for any of this? I don't know, I don't know.

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And along those similar lines, here's Joseph, who I encourage. Joseph,

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do not take that black pill that is sitting on

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the table next to a glass of water.

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Speaker 1: Don't take the black pill.

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Speaker 2: Black pill is basically you you feel like the future

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has no positive outlook.

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Speaker 1: That's when you're black pilled. You've heard red pilled, blue pilled. Right,

484
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black pilled is when you're like all is lost?

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Speaker 2: What's the point of anything? Right, And Joseph says, I

486
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enjoy a good exposing of the left's dirty deeds as

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much as the next guy, but if no one is

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going to do anything about it, then what does it matter. Well,

489
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they've already referred criminal for criminal charges.

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Speaker 1: You know some of these key players to the DOJ.

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Speaker 2: Now what happens next, I don't know, but I would

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prefer in this me personally. You may adopt a different standard,

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but I would prefer that we get all of the

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ducks in a row. We get as much of this

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stuff out as possible, so there is a public record

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of the malfeasans and the conspiracy. This way, when charges

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are brought, we win that we can actually hold people

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accountable because we did not rush out like with the

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Epstein files. And here's your binder of previously released stuff,

500
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and oh I got the Epstein files. Like that's the

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way not to do it. This is the way to

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do it. You start declassifying all of this stuff, you

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start making referrals for criminal charges, and then you get

504
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people in there to prosecute the cases. Bring in people,

505
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get them deposed, collect the evidence, file the charges. Does

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that happen, I don't know. I cannot read the future.

507
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I hope it does, because that's the only way that

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anybody regains confidence in the institutions.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

510
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Speaker 2: I don't see any other way around it. So Joseph,

511
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don't take the black pill. All is not lost. As

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I have been urging people in the Trump era. Let's

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just give it some time. Let's see what happens. So

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we're gonna go over more of the details and I

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will play the audio. I will stop talking. I will

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play the audio in the next segment.

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Speaker 1: All right, that'll do it for this episode. Thank you

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so much for listening.

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524
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thank you so much for listening, and don't break anything

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while I'm gone.

