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Berg wrote some years ago, journalism is about covering important
stories with a pillow until they stop moving, and that
is no less true today. In fact, if you want
a real time example of it, just look at the
coverage today as a matter of fact, and yesterday, in
the day before, and then the weekend.
Speaker 1: Basically.
Speaker 2: Ever since Tulsi Gabbard, the Director of National Intelligence, released
the first batch of declassified documents regarding Spygate or Russia Gate,
I don't really know if everybody is agreed on a
single gate to name this scandal, which just grows by
the day, and today there are more documents that have
been dumped, declassified and the media.
Speaker 1: According to Matt Vespa and I completely.
Speaker 2: Agree, the media met Vespa, writing at town hall dot com,
is racing to suffocate the Russian collusion documents that Gabbard
released because a lot of their friends and sources could
be indicted for what appears to be a political operation
that borders on treason. Barack Obama ordered a new intelligence
community assessment. You're gonna hear me reference this and if
it sounds familiar, I covered this a couple of weeks
ago when John Ratcliffe, the CIA director, put out his
report that covered some of these same components. But now
we've got now we have the confirmation. This is what
we call in the journalism business. Evidence, despite what a
lot of your legacy outlets are calling, you know, without evidence.
Donald Trump said Obama committed treason without evidence, you know,
or he stated without evidence Obama committed treason, which he did.
Speaker 1: I've got the audio, we'll play it.
Speaker 2: In late twenty sixteen, Obama ordered a new ICA intelligence
community assessment. He ordered this to be done so it
would comport with the Russian collusion narrative, which we all
know has been debunked, which then that ICA then weaponized
the intelligence community to derail the incoming Trump administration. The
fake narrative was to be disseminated to the media along
with targeted media leaks to create as much chaos as possible.
Matt Taibi runs Racket News, independent journalist. He points out
that the effect of this was to paralyze Donald Trump's
first term, and he is exactly correct. This consumed everything.
This led to Trump's impeachment. The first one, right, that
the perfect phone call to the Ukrainian president Zelenski. Right,
there's a through line across all of it, because simply
asking Zelenski to hey, let me know what's going on
with this corruption stuff was then seen as some sort
of a demand for a quid pro.
Speaker 1: Quo in service to putin.
Speaker 2: Gabbert's document dump, According to Vespa, obliterated the core of
the collusion.
Speaker 1: Delusion.
Speaker 2: The intelligence community concluded that Russia did not possess the
ability to impact the twenty sixteen election in the manner
that the media, Hillary Clinton, the Democratic Party were all
suggesting on a daily basis, So Obama ordered a new
assessment to be compiled, one that included the Steele Dossier.
The Steele Dossier was a Clinton campaign funded opposition research
project that is littered with known Russian disinformation to say
what the Intel community assessed was not actually true. I'm
going to say that part again. The Intel community had
already assessed that this was not true, yet it was
put into a revised Presidential Daily Briefing as part of
an ICA. So if you hear the term PDB, that's
the Presidential Daily Briefing. So this is a this is
a scandal. Tayebi called it an enormous story, rivaled only
by the WMD story that the Intel community sold. And
this is another reason why, by the way, there is
this hyper focus on the Epstein story. Will they release
the files? Will they not release the files? Why won't
they talk about it? He's deflecting because he's in the
files and everything, like all of the Epstein focus. And
I'm not saying i'd like I'm so here's what I've
been saying this for years now.
Speaker 1: Just give it some time on the you know.
Speaker 2: With all of the latest developments in the news cycle.
Trust me, I've been doing this a long time, okay,
And I have never seen a news cycle that moves
as quickly as ours does now. And a lot of
that is driven by Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: He is a force of nature. He moves the news
cycles in ways that I learned in the first term
that are really unrivaled by anybody else. So as a host,
I will tell you like I made a point, a
conscious effort to not have my show dictated to me
every day by whatever the president at the time was tweeting, right,
because that's what that's what was driving the new cycle
every single day. I try to do these deep dives.
I try to give a lot of the background, a
lot of the information. It's this is the reason I
went into the hosting line of work from being a reporter.
As a reporter in the radio world, you get forty
five seconds at most to tell a story, and that's
a very difficult thing to do, but I did it amazingly.
But no, I wanted to tell more of the story.
I wanted to go deeper into the details because I
feel like a lot of times people who are listening
to the story in a forty five second package, they're
not getting the full depth and context of the story.
So much of journalism is about creating the timeline and
documenting the timeline, and then plugging pieces of information into
that timeline in order to then detect whatever the pattern
is or the way something developed, and that's what we
are witnessing right now in real time. It has taken, yes,
a decade, almost a decade, but sometimes that's how long
it takes to reconstruct something. When the people who hold
the power and created the conspiracy bury this stuff so deep,
and but for his election victory in twenty twenty four,
we would not have this information. And I know that
to be true because it was buried when he was
out of office. It's only his administration in round two,
it's only the people that he has brought in that
have made it a point to get this information out.
That's the only reason we have it. Two components to
keep in mind throughout all of this. On the Spygate
Russia collusion hoax, Yes, there was a finding that Russia
meddled in the twenty sixteen election. That has been confirmed
across various assessments, bipartisan agreement. Russia is always messing around
in our elections, but they lacked the capability to hack
our voting machines, one of the reasons why we have
state elections not a national system, harder to hack. But
also they thought Hillary was going to win. So the
first finding is yes, they meddled. But the second part
is to motive why were they meddling? And the key,
the core assessment that came from the Obama administration Intel
assessment was the reason that they were meddling was to
what help Donald Trump win?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: That they aspired to put Trump into office? That was
the key finding, the key judgment as it's called in
the assessment. And where did that come from? That came
from the Steele dossier?
Speaker 1: And why?
Speaker 2: Because they obviously had control over Trump that was the implication, right,
And how did they have control over him? Again Steele dossier.
They had compromid on him, compromising material, They had the
pe tape, they knew about the you know, the wizen
on the beds with the hookers and such, which was
all a fabrication, a lie, when in fact Putin and
the Russians thought Hillary was going to win, and they
were okay with that because they actually had stuff on
her that would make her more amenable to them. They
actually preferred she win if they had any preference at all,
which there really isn't an indication that they did.
Speaker 1: They just assumed she would.
Speaker 2: Win because everybody assumed she would win. So why are
they meddling in the election to cause chaos. And I
said this back in like twenty seventeen. The Russians just
want to sow chaos. It's why they set up Facebook
groups pro BLM and ANTIBLM, fake Facebook groups and such.
In fact, they even some Russian connected people set up
some rally here in Charlotte. It's like a Black Matters
Live or something like that. It's like a play on
the BLM thing. They want to sew chaos, to tear
down the institutions of our society, to breed distrust. The motive, Well,
that was a lie, and that came from Obama and
his Intel chiefs. All right, if you're listening to this show,
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A message from the text line perfect example of what
I was talking about from data. If this was true,
meaning the spygate, Russia Gate, whatever you want to call
it gate. If this was true, it would have been
brought forth earlier. Straight distraction from Epstein. One of the
hardest things to admit, Dana, is that you have been deceived.
Very difficult. It's actually more difficult for people who are
smarter because they think they're too smart to be deceived.
You've been deceived. And by the way, if I were
to apply your logic there to the Epstein stuff, wouldn't
that be the same case, right that Democrats had control
of the White House and all of the DOJ They
could have released all of the Epstein files when they
were in charge, but they didn't, and now they want
them released. So maybe that's a distraction from something too.
Here's the thing, this is a false choice you are
presenting me, And you know me. I bristle at false choices.
I recognize them almost immediately now people do them. So
you're telling me that I can't both care about the
Epstein files release and Spygate at the same time.
Speaker 1: Well, that's just stupid. Of course I can.
Speaker 2: You know how I know it because I just did
the Epstein story a couple days ago.
Speaker 1: I've covered it.
Speaker 2: In fact, we've got updates coming down the pike right now.
They're going to interview Gilaine Maxwell. You've got the Congressional
Committee going to they sought to interview her from the
prison that she's in. You've got the request to unseal
the court documents. Like I'm going to let that play out,
and when there's developments to be announced on that, we'll
go over it again. Nobody is distracting me. Maybe it's
distracting to you and you want everybody to focus all
the time on the Epstein files. There are other things happening.
This is a pretty important story. In fact, it's one
of the most important stories because get this, the investigation,
according to Matt Tayibe, the investigation and into conspiracy is
not just during the twenty sixteen through twenty twenty timeframe.
What Tayebe says, according to his DOJ sources, is that
they are investigating this conspiracy through the Biden term. That
the spying may have resumed or maybe never ended under
Joe Biden's administration, that the spying continued on Trump campaign advisors,
Trump world people, that this continued until Biden was out
of office. That's a pretty big deal. I don't know
about you, but that, to me, that's a pretty big deal.
So here is the report from Reuter's, a legacy outlet,
and so you're going to have to I'll point out
the problems they're reporting because they would very much like
this story to go away, much like people who are like,
what about Epstein Fels, They say, oh, Trump wants this
story to go away. Well, the media wants this story
to go away. Now we're all even okay, So how
about I just cover all of them. How about that,
I'm just going to cover all of them. US President
Donald Trump accused former President Barack Obama of treason yesterday,
accusing him without providing evidence. Okay, that's false. That is false.
There is evidence of this now. It is in the
documents that have been declassified by Tulca Gabbard. There is evidence.
So for you to say that Trump isn't offering evidence,
well maybe Trump isn't.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: I have the documents right here in my hand, and
let me read from them at his you know, Oval
Office press availability with the President of the Philippines when
he was asked this question and he started talking about this.
So no, he didn't have all of the declassified documents
in his hands to show the media right then and there.
But the media has got access to these documents. That's
what he's talking about. That is what we call evidence.
He says that Obama is guilty of treason for leading
an effort to falsely tie him to Russia and undermine
his twenty sixteen presidential campaign. And by the way, the
comments from Trump yesterday and I've got them, we'll listen
to them. But these comments now forces the media to
cover it. Now they're covering it like Reuter's is covering it,
and they're covering it from as Dana would like, you know,
through this prism of the Epstein files. But they still
have to cover some part of it, which they weren't doing.
The Washington Post didn't even put anything in their paper
about this when Gabbert released the classified files on Friday.
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This is from Bain Pete. Thank you for slowly breaking
the timeline down. One additional need to do for the
average person is to define terms. I heard comport. What
does that mean? Well, let me google that for you.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: Comport means to make something match, basically, make something agree.
So like you know, you need to comport yourself with
our dress code, like that you need to align your self.
And so for this intelligence community assessment, that has to
comport with this motive that Putin wanted Trump to win.
Like you're trying to make the ica match that preconceived motive, right,
But you want the narrative, the story to be so
you make the assessment comport with the narrative to make
it match. And then way back, of course, the Steal dossier.
Regular folks just tune out when fancy words are used.
What the heck is a dossier? A dossier is like
a file that you would compile on somebody. You get
a lot of papers together about a detailed information about
a person or a subject, and you put it into
You make a file on somebody. So in like investigative
work or spycraft, they call it a dossier. It has
all of the details and information about the target or
an ally or whatever, an agent. So that's what dossier means. Also,
what does opposition research? What? Okay, Well, that's that's just
what campaigns do, and if you're a good campaign, you
do it on your own candidate. But usually it's like
the opposition. Your opponent is going to do a bunch
of research on you as a candidate to find as
much dirt as possible. Right, And so when we say
the Steele dossier was opposition research funded by the Hillary
Clinton campaign and the Democratic Convention. Uh and uh, you know,
funded through the cutout the bagman of Perkinskoy the lawyer
and Mark Elias, the lawyer who worked for Perkins Cooey
who assued North Carolina on all sorts of election related matters,
the Democrat super.
Speaker 1: Lawyer as they call him. That's what opposition research is.
Speaker 2: So no, it's fair because I use these terms and
I assume people know what they mean, So my apologies
for that. So it's sometimes it's called oppo research. And
you know, if I were running for office, I would
have my team of opposition researchers not just research my opponent,
but also research me and find out stuff that's out there,
so we know what's out there on me, and then
you have the response ready to go if the other guys,
the opponents, opo researchers, find out that stuff on me,
So that's opo research.
Speaker 1: And then this, oh, that's not on topic.
Speaker 2: Nevermind, let me go over to my Twitter feed and so, okay,
I'm not going to be able to play all of
the Trump clip here because I've talked too long reading messages.
Let me read some more and I'll push the Trump
clip or maybe I'll break it in half.
Speaker 1: The media.
Speaker 2: This is from moral compass. It's a pete tweet. The
media is coverage of this coup reminds me of their
coverage of the Twitter files. They try to read direct
or assign motive as to why it is released now
if they cover it at all.
Speaker 1: Yes, that is.
Speaker 2: That's also a tactic that media likes to do as well.
Where Oh but oh, I'm sorry, did you say the
Twitter files?
Speaker 1: Yes, so.
Speaker 2: It's that why is this being released now? And let's
ask all of these other questions rather than examine the
evidence of the scandal. And this is journalism Ing rule
number two, according to my well thought out and professionally
constructed rules of Journalisming rule number two is that when
the scandal is about a Republican, the story is the scandal.
When the scandal involves a Democrat, well then the story
is the Republican reaction to the scandal. Right, you don't
go into the deep dive really on the information and
evidence around the scandal. Well, you talk about how it's
being weaponized against you know, the you know, heroic and
courageous Democrats. How dare those evil villainous Republicans use this
in order to harm the president's chances of something or other, right,
And that's I mean, that's what this is. Like this
headline from Reuters, Trump accuses Obama of treason in escalating
attacks over twenty sixteen Russia probe. So what's the focus here.
It's that Trump is accusing. Trump accuses Obama. Obama's the victim.
Trump is the aggressor, right, But the evidence that has
now been released indicates that actually the aggressor was Obama,
and the timeline makes that very clear. I haven't even
I haven't even done the TikTok on this thing, not
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first segment next hour, because it runs eight minutes a
little bit over eight minutes, and so I don't have
enough time in this segment to play it.
Speaker 1: I don't want to break it up into two.
Speaker 2: Different hours just for podcast purposes. If people are listening
on the podcast, they won't they'll have to go back
and listen to the last part anyway. So I'll start
it in the next segment at the beginning of the
next hour, and we'll hear all of President Trump's comments,
because I've seen people chop these comments up and some
of them you may be surprised to hear this, but
some of them have been selectively edited. So I'll let
you hear what he has to say about all of
this in its entirety at the beginning of the next hour.
Let me go to Twitter.
Speaker 1: It's a Pete from it says Pete.
Speaker 2: How about we all agree on the proper name of
the various attempts to destroy Trump, the GOP and America
should all be called Obama Gate. After all, it appears
to be the outgrowth of Obama's personal desire to continue
with his fundamental transformation of America. I have seen it
referred to as Obama Gate, and that's as good a
name as any.
Speaker 1: I mean, we could.
Speaker 2: Throw in stuff like the targeting of the Tea Party, right,
we could throw that in there. I actually have a
list here someplace. Let me see, I thought I had
a list. Now, yeah, I had a list at some
point of all of the different scandals, which remember the
media told us that Barack Obama didn't have a single
scandal except for the Tan suit.
Speaker 1: Remember that. Yeah, I actually had a friend of.
Speaker 2: Mine who's on the left make that they made that
joke quote unquote joke, hahaha. You know in Trump's first term,
oh man, I can remember when the only scandal is
you know, Obama's tan suit, Like obviously she was just
lifting that right off of the you know, the Daily
Show or the Colbert Report or whatever it was. But
it's just it's not true. As one who covered the
Obama administration when I was a host, I remember the scandals.
I covered the scandals. There were many scandals, fast and
furious targeting of the tea party groups. I mean there
were scandal Obamacare, the ramming throw of Obamacare, the bribes
you know, to the various lawmakers to approve it.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there were.
Speaker 2: There were a lot of scandals. And I'm leaving a
bunch out here. This is massive. And this is part
of the problem, by the way, when you have an
establishment legacy media complex that throws their lot in with
a party, in particular a charismatic newly like Obama, and
he realizes, they realize that they can get away with
a lot more. And this is Remember the reason why
I said I voted for Donald Trump was because this
is the only way I know how to punish the
media for not holding Democrats to the same standard when
it comes to accountability and examination and you know, deep
dives and trying to root out corruption and scandals and
stuff like that. They give Democrats a pass. They go
to sleep. When the when the Democrats take the White
House and Trump being in there, I know they're going
to be probing everything about all of his operations, everything
he says, whatever they're going to do that. I would
prefer that then the covering up of scandals and corruption.
And because this is the prime example of it, it
takes a decade and republic wins in order to get
this stuff out because the media won't do it. And
even when they're forced to do it, when Republicans take
control of the White House, the House, the Senate, they
get control of the apparatus, they do a remarkable thing
that Trump has done, which is to you know, just
boot all of these people out of the quote deep state,
out of the administrative state, out of the executive branch,
to clear out some of these people that are throwing
sand in the gears of his administration and finding this
stuff and releasing this stuff and putting it out there.
But for that we would not know this. This is
from somebody who refuses to name himself. Geez, brother, just
be quiet and play it. Trying to hear before I
have to get back from conch. I don't know what
counscha oh. I think that means lunch, So yeah, I'm
gonna play it. In the first segment, John in Jersey says,
speculate a little bit. Will anybody be brought to justice
for any of this? I don't know, I don't know.
And along those similar lines, here's Joseph, who I encourage. Joseph,
do not take that black pill that is sitting on
the table next to a glass of water.
Speaker 1: Don't take the black pill.
Speaker 2: Black pill is basically you you feel like the future
has no positive outlook.
Speaker 1: That's when you're black pilled. You've heard red pilled, blue pilled. Right,
black pilled is when you're like all is lost?
Speaker 2: What's the point of anything? Right, And Joseph says, I
enjoy a good exposing of the left's dirty deeds as
much as the next guy, but if no one is
going to do anything about it, then what does it matter. Well,
they've already referred criminal for criminal charges.
Speaker 1: You know some of these key players to the DOJ.
Speaker 2: Now what happens next, I don't know, but I would
prefer in this me personally. You may adopt a different standard,
but I would prefer that we get all of the
ducks in a row. We get as much of this
stuff out as possible, so there is a public record
of the malfeasans and the conspiracy. This way, when charges
are brought, we win that we can actually hold people
accountable because we did not rush out like with the
Epstein files. And here's your binder of previously released stuff,
and oh I got the Epstein files. Like that's the
way not to do it. This is the way to
do it. You start declassifying all of this stuff, you
start making referrals for criminal charges, and then you get
people in there to prosecute the cases. Bring in people,
get them deposed, collect the evidence, file the charges. Does
that happen, I don't know. I cannot read the future.
I hope it does, because that's the only way that
anybody regains confidence in the institutions.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: I don't see any other way around it. So Joseph,
don't take the black pill. All is not lost. As
I have been urging people in the Trump era. Let's
just give it some time. Let's see what happens. So
we're gonna go over more of the details and I
will play the audio. I will stop talking. I will
play the audio in the next segment.
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