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<v Speaker 1>Up at also shown.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah throw.

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<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Throw he yawn he yawn.

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<v Speaker 1>He thre there there there there.

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<v Speaker 3>There all right, welcome. Well, we haven't talked theology in

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<v Speaker 3>a while, have we. We've talked a lot about goofy things.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been a lot of goofy videos, but we haven't

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<v Speaker 3>gotten into one of these kind of deeper theological streams

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<v Speaker 3>in a while. And these are not the easiest, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not the most popular. We know, the hardcore Jason Elsi's

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<v Speaker 3>fans enjoy them, and I want to thank you guys

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<v Speaker 3>for tagging along for being here. Actually, I wasn't really

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<v Speaker 3>planning on doing a theological stream, and then the more

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<v Speaker 3>I thought about it, the more I thought, no, let's

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<v Speaker 3>do that, because that's ultimately that's what matters. But so

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<v Speaker 3>I was listing different things that everybody's kind of talking about,

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff that people are worried about. I'm goind

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<v Speaker 3>of surprised more evangelicals aren't freaking out thinking it's the

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<v Speaker 3>end of the world. But then again, I guess they

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<v Speaker 3>think that QAnon is gonna save everybody or whatever. So

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about prophecies anti christ. I want

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about that kind of stuff. What the Patristic

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<v Speaker 3>view is how there's actually solutions in the Orthodox canon

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<v Speaker 3>of scripture that you're missing in the other canon's descripture.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that's not to say that everybody in the other

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<v Speaker 3>traditions gets everything wrong. They don't. But I think that

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<v Speaker 3>you got two big things that you get in Orthodoxy

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<v Speaker 3>that are big aids to this that you don't find

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<v Speaker 3>in like Protestant groups, and that's the Church Fathers and

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<v Speaker 3>the liturgy. The Church Fathers and the liturgy become key

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<v Speaker 3>aids to help us interpret the because of the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>itself is part of a liturgical tradition. It's part of

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<v Speaker 3>a tradition of daily readings in the ancient Church, and

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they were part of those daily readings

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<v Speaker 3>is partly how we know what the Canona Scripture is,

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<v Speaker 3>as we've shown in many of the lectures and talks.

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<v Speaker 3>So we have to be aware of this and understand

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<v Speaker 3>that the liturgy is a accumulation of centuries of wisdom

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<v Speaker 3>of the Church. Now, the reason we put such a

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<v Speaker 3>strong belief and emphasis in the visible Church is because

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<v Speaker 3>Christ promised to a historic visible group of people that

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<v Speaker 3>the Holy Spirit would be with that group to lead

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<v Speaker 3>it and guide it into truth and protect it from error.

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<v Speaker 3>It would not be overcome by error. Doesn't mean there

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<v Speaker 3>won't be squabbles, there won't be periods where there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people who believe error. But in Toto, the

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<v Speaker 3>Church will never at any point be completely consumed by era.

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<v Speaker 3>There will always be solid orthodox or right believing bishops

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<v Speaker 3>in the world, and faithful by extension, even in periods

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<v Speaker 3>of mass apostasy. So we're gonna get into some of

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<v Speaker 3>these kind of tough issues tonight and some of the

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<v Speaker 3>tough doctrines that bug a lot of people, and hopefully

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<v Speaker 3>I can cover this in a profitable way. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>specific article I want to bring out that a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people don't know about. Actually, actually there's two, so

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<v Speaker 3>maybe I should bring both of these up. We'll get

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<v Speaker 3>to that later. But so the first one that we

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<v Speaker 3>want to talk about is if you've listened to the

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<v Speaker 3>totality of the Genesis li which we completed all those

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<v Speaker 3>we got all through the entirety of Genesis, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you heard the important prophecy in Genesis forty nine, which

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<v Speaker 3>is the prediction of when the Messiah would come, and

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<v Speaker 3>when this prediction is given Jacob prophesies something very specific

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<v Speaker 3>that is a key indicator that would let the people

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<v Speaker 3>of Israel know that their Messiah had come. That key

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<v Speaker 3>indicator is Genesis forty nine ten or eleven. It says,

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<v Speaker 3>who will rouse him? The scepter will not depart from Judah,

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<v Speaker 3>nor a lawgiver from between his loins until Shiloh comes,

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<v Speaker 3>and unto him will be the expectation of the nations.

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<v Speaker 3>He will bind his cult to a vine, and his

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<v Speaker 3>donkey's cult to its branch. He will wash his garments

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<v Speaker 3>in wine his blood, and his clothes with the blood

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<v Speaker 3>of grapes. His eyes are gladden from the vine from

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<v Speaker 3>the wine, and his teeth are whiter than milk. This is,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, of course, one of the classic Messianic prophecies,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we know, I mean, even in the Jewish tradition,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a Messianic prophety. I mean, they don't believe

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<v Speaker 3>that it was Christ obviously, but it's pretty well known

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<v Speaker 3>as a Messianic prophecy. What's the first thing that we're

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<v Speaker 3>told is that the scepter, that is royal lineage, is

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<v Speaker 3>not going to depart from the house and tribe of Judah.

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<v Speaker 3>The law will be ex explicated and enforced by a

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<v Speaker 3>logover in some way until Shiloh, until Messiah comes, and

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<v Speaker 3>when he comes, he will be the expectation of the gentiles. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the great key indicators that we've covered many,

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<v Speaker 3>many times all throughout the Old Testament is that when

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<v Speaker 3>the Messiah comes, the gentiles will repent and turn to

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<v Speaker 3>the God of Israel over and over and over in

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<v Speaker 3>the Psalms, and the major prophets and the minor prophets,

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<v Speaker 3>over and over and over and over, and even back

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<v Speaker 3>in Genesis. Early in Genesis the prediction not just here,

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<v Speaker 3>but realize that Jacob. All Jacob's doing is summarizing what

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<v Speaker 3>is in the Abrahamic Covenant, the promise that when the

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<v Speaker 3>Messiah comes, he would be the expectation. He would bless

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<v Speaker 3>all the tribes and families and nations of the earth.

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<v Speaker 3>And keep in mind in this time and this put

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<v Speaker 3>your mindset in their mindset. I mean, this just seems crazy, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It seems how in the world could God fulfill that?

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<v Speaker 3>How could see somebody who's the seat of Abraham bless

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<v Speaker 3>all the nations and turn these nations to the true God.

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<v Speaker 3>How that's crazy? That's never going to happen. These people

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<v Speaker 3>they worship, you know, demons and sticks and rocks and

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<v Speaker 3>but and even Israel falls into worshiping holes in numbers

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<v Speaker 3>bail Pure, the Lord of open holes. And that is

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<v Speaker 3>exactly what you think. That's exactly what it is. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>the ancient Kroleian rites of but the butt liturgy. Now

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<v Speaker 3>a few verses later, this is as Joseph is prophesying

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<v Speaker 3>about each of the tribes of Israel what their future

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<v Speaker 3>will be. Now, these prophecies oftentimes have a double fulfillment,

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<v Speaker 3>so in one sense, the historical fulfillment is clearly about

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<v Speaker 3>the tribe of Judah. Here that Judah will have a lineage,

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<v Speaker 3>Judah will be the royal lineage. He's predicting the tribe

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<v Speaker 3>of Judah would be the tribe that would be the

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<v Speaker 3>royal lineage. That happened, Right, we know that in the

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<v Speaker 3>time of the kings, right, David descends from this lineage.

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<v Speaker 3>David is of the tribe of Judah. And we know

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<v Speaker 3>that in the time of the kings you have the

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<v Speaker 3>division of the kingdom. Right, Jereboma and Raybauam, the sons

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<v Speaker 3>of Solomon have a schism within Israel, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>the evil Northern kings who are all bad, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you have the Southern tribe, which is the legitimate place

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<v Speaker 3>of worship, the legitimate kings in the tribe of Judah,

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<v Speaker 3>where the tabernacle on the temple are lawfully placed. They

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<v Speaker 3>have a few, right, There's Josiah, there's David, but they

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<v Speaker 3>have a lot of bad ones too. But Israel is

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<v Speaker 3>really bad. I mean, Israel becomes the term for the

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<v Speaker 3>northern tribes and the southern tribe Judah. Right, So what's

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<v Speaker 3>amazing about this prophecy, first of all, is that there

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<v Speaker 3>will be a royal lineage all the way until Messiah comes,

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<v Speaker 3>implying that the will depart after that. So you will

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<v Speaker 3>know when the Messiah comes when there's no more dividic kings.

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<v Speaker 3>There are no more dividic kings. There haven't been divided

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<v Speaker 3>kings in two thousand years. Okay. We're not here to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about debate. We're not debating genetics in here. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not what this topic is about. We're here to talk

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<v Speaker 3>about old the biblical theology. Okay, So we're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to get into these debates about this stuff anyway. This

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<v Speaker 3>has nothing to do with Ashkenazi stuff. We're not debating that.

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<v Speaker 3>So there's an interesting prophecy though after this, which, by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, let me add that this shows you that

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<v Speaker 3>God is not inherently opposed to monarchy, because this is

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<v Speaker 3>a prediction of a monarchy. This is a prediction of

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<v Speaker 3>a royal scepter in the royal lineage through David. And

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<v Speaker 3>so this dumb argument that people have by the time

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<v Speaker 3>that we get to judges, who judges is the treatise

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<v Speaker 3>against the moner because they had they had judges. The

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<v Speaker 3>book says that because there's no king in Israel, everybody

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<v Speaker 3>did what was right in their own eyes. It's an

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<v Speaker 3>anti judges treatise. The whole Book of Judges is a

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<v Speaker 3>treatise for monarchy. So it's just really kind of idiotic

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<v Speaker 3>when people think that, oh, the bibbles against Mourner, No,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not. Jesus is the king of kings, so it's

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<v Speaker 3>not against monarchy. There are warnings, right, What does Samuel

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<v Speaker 3>warn everybody? He says, if you ask for the king,

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<v Speaker 3>he says, it's gonna be bad for you. Why is

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<v Speaker 3>it going to be bad. He's gonna take your daughters,

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna take your h O. E s's make them

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<v Speaker 3>make them h O. Yes, why because of the institution itself? No,

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<v Speaker 3>because he says, you guys want a king after the nations.

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<v Speaker 3>What did the Pagans around Israel do? They worshiped their kings.

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<v Speaker 3>They viewed their kings, their warrior lord or lord kings.

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<v Speaker 3>They viewed them as semi divine or divine. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>The ancient inscriptions of the coins of Caesar they call

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<v Speaker 3>Caesar the son of God. The pagan kings always foisted

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<v Speaker 3>themselves upon their masses as divine or semi divine. Pharaoh

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<v Speaker 3>is the apex between heaven and Earth. That's why it's

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<v Speaker 3>a pyramid, right, So if you're if you're familiar with this,

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<v Speaker 3>this is pretty common. So in ancient Egyptian metaphysics, this

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<v Speaker 3>is the this world, this is the earth. It's a pyramid.

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<v Speaker 3>At the top here is Pharaoh, and he is the

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<v Speaker 3>meeting point, the bridge between heaven and Earth. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>why he's at the top of the pyramid, because he

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<v Speaker 3>is the tarnate. You can say raw. He's raw on

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<v Speaker 3>earth in human incarnation, not in a biblical sense. He's

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<v Speaker 3>not incarnate like the Son of God or something like

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<v Speaker 3>that in the Egyptian metaphysic, it's more like pantheism. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>is God, but not you. You're just like lower down

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<v Speaker 3>on that pyramid. Really, it's they that's good, not you. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>hold on, I'm gonna race this race board, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>So h and by the way, I've got you. In

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<v Speaker 3>my Ancient Metaphysics talks, we cover that all that Egyptian

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<v Speaker 3>metaphysics and whatnot. You can you'll find those old talks.

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<v Speaker 3>They're they're pretty old, they are time tested. You can

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<v Speaker 3>find those. So we have this prediction of when the

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<v Speaker 3>Messiah would be more and there will be signs that

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<v Speaker 3>a company it. The signs would be that there would

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<v Speaker 3>no longer be a royal house, a royal lineage. The

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<v Speaker 3>Gentiles will begin to convert and guess what this happened?

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<v Speaker 3>When did this happen? When did the scepter depart from Judah? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>in seventy a d. There was a very important event

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<v Speaker 3>that happened, and it was the destruction of the Temple

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<v Speaker 3>in Jerusalem. So now we want to look at one

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<v Speaker 3>of the key texts that shows us this, and we

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<v Speaker 3>want to stress this because this is very important for

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<v Speaker 3>vindicating the Bible when we have done theology. When we

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<v Speaker 3>are idiots and get this wrong, we undermine our own

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<v Speaker 3>view and our own coherency, our own worldview, our own

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<v Speaker 3>proof texts. And I'm going to show you that this

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<v Speaker 3>is the Patristic view. I mean, maybe a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know this, but this is a common mistake

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<v Speaker 3>people make. They're going to stick everything in the future,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to undermine and miss one of the

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<v Speaker 3>key proofs of our position. If you look at Luke

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<v Speaker 3>the people standing in front of him. This is a key.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a big mistake. Especially people who don't know

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<v Speaker 3>courses on hermeneuticts. They'll say, oh, this is talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the world. Now, it does have an

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<v Speaker 3>application to the end of time. It has an application

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<v Speaker 3>to all throughout time, right, But we don't divorce it

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<v Speaker 3>This is called the grammatical historical, the literal level of interpretation.

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<v Speaker 3>talking to here? It's not directly talking to me, right,

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<v Speaker 4>Say it's talking to me, dude, Jesus talking to me.

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<v Speaker 3>That's prelest. Yes, he's talking to you in a general sense,

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<v Speaker 3>But the Bible isn't written to you. Okay, that's like

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<v Speaker 3>That's why a lot of the people in the world

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<v Speaker 3>think that religious people are wackos. The book's not talking

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<v Speaker 3>to you, dude, not in that way. So how do

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<v Speaker 3>we understand how this applies to us? And again, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna show you that everything I'm telling you is one

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<v Speaker 3>in line with the teaching of the Church fathers. This

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<v Speaker 3>raised Evangelical. I was raised Protestant.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh dude, justum in the world. Let me get my

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<v Speaker 4>prophecy charts out. I'm gonna chart out this out of

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<v Speaker 4>the end of the world, and we're gonna blow the

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<v Speaker 4>show far. The trumpet judgments are coming. John Hagen.

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<v Speaker 3>Readmind new book. My name's John Hagee, and I have

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<v Speaker 3>raw I had to throw at John Hagen in there

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<v Speaker 3>for you guys. I'll know you guys. Everybody loves the

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<v Speaker 3>John Hagen. What does it say? It says take heed

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<v Speaker 3>that you being out in deceived. Many will come in

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<v Speaker 3>is not yet drawn near it. Do not go after them.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you hear of wars and commotions, don't be terrified,

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<v Speaker 3>for these things must come to pass first. The end

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<v Speaker 3>will not come immediately. The end of what in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>not in the immediate context. The end of the world

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<v Speaker 3>is not what Jesus talking about. Jesus is talking about

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<v Speaker 3>the temple. That's what they're talking about. You see this,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna tell you. When this temple is about to

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<v Speaker 3>kingdom against kingdom. There will be great earthquakes in many places, famines, pestilenceys,

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<v Speaker 3>fearful signs, and great signs from heaven. But before all

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<v Speaker 3>these things that will lay hands will persecute you, and

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<v Speaker 3>they will deliver you to synagogues. Are we all being

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<v Speaker 3>delivered up to synagogues for the people who think that

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<v Speaker 3>we're suddenly in times right now? No, but the disciples

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<v Speaker 3>were delivered up, weren't they In the Book of Acts exactly?

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what everything that Jesus listed, there's examples of that.

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<v Speaker 3>In Books of Acts. There's earthquakes, there are famines and

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<v Speaker 3>pestilences mentioned. Have you read Josephus. I have. Josephus was

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<v Speaker 3>and he mentions all these things. In fact, I wrote

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<v Speaker 3>a graduate paper, now, an undergraduate paper, and I'll put

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<v Speaker 3>it here. Here is one of my undergraduate papers on

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<v Speaker 3>this very topic. Go read that, where I cite extensively

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<v Speaker 3>from Josephus, the eyewitness to this stuff. Anyway, back to

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<v Speaker 3>the text, it says, they will deliver you up to

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<v Speaker 3>the synagogues and prisons, but you will be brought before

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<v Speaker 3>kings and rulers. For my namesake, there's not a whole

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<v Speaker 3>lot of kings in the world today. Are we all

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<v Speaker 3>going to be brought before the king of Monaco and

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<v Speaker 3>being persecuted? So how many kings are there? Really?

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<v Speaker 5>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>But it will turn out to you for an occasion

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<v Speaker 3>for testimony. Well, guess what. That happens multiple times in

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<v Speaker 3>the Book of Acts, doesn't it. Paul before Felix, Paul

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<v Speaker 3>before Agrippa. Yeah. Therefore, do not set it in your

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<v Speaker 3>hearts to meditate beforehand what you will answer, for I

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<v Speaker 3>will give you a mouth and a wisdom that all

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<v Speaker 3>your adversaries will not be able to resist. Act seven,

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<v Speaker 3>when Saint Stephen Jesus speaks directly through prophesies through Saint Stephen.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, but John Hagy is not prophesying. Jesus is

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<v Speaker 3>not speaking through John Hagen. You will be betrayed by

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<v Speaker 3>your parents and brothers and relatives, and they will put

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<v Speaker 3>for by namesake, but not a hair of your heads

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<v Speaker 3>will be lost by your patients, possess your souls. When

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<v Speaker 3>you immediate context, when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies,

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<v Speaker 3>know that its destruction is near. How could it be

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<v Speaker 3>any more clear than this? This is talking about what

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<v Speaker 3>happened forty years later. Jerusalem was surrounded by armonies and

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<v Speaker 3>it was destroyed. Then, let you, in the immediate context here,

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<v Speaker 3>who are in Judea fleet to the mountains. Let those

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<v Speaker 3>who are in the midst of her depart, for those

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<v Speaker 3>who are in the country enter her. For these the

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<v Speaker 3>days of vengeance, in which all things written in the

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<v Speaker 3>prophets are to be fulfilled. For woe to those who

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<v Speaker 3>are pregnant and nursing in those days, for there will

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<v Speaker 3>be great distress in the land and wrouth upon this people.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not talking about a global catastrophe. It's talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the destruction of Jerusalem in seventy eighty. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>know that at this time, and many of these people

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<v Speaker 3>fled to Petra in places like this right to because

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<v Speaker 3>they were warned. Am I supposed to flee to Judea?

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<v Speaker 3>Am I supposed to leave Tennessee and flee to Judea?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this talking about all the Christians in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>but to flee to Judea. That's ridiculous. That's idiotic. Stop

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<v Speaker 3>being idiotic. What else does he say? You better hope

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<v Speaker 3>your journey is not on the Sabbath. We don't keep

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<v Speaker 3>the Sabbath in the way that it was kept at

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<v Speaker 3>this time. This is during the period when the Sabbath

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<v Speaker 3>is still being kept. In the Book of Acts, it's

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<v Speaker 3>from the Old Covenant to the New Covenant. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>just Jesus' death, roren, resurrection and ascension the Book of Acts,

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<v Speaker 3>remember Pentecost. Isn't Pentecost part of the Escaton being brought

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<v Speaker 3>into reality? Of course, it is. Joel predicts in the

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<v Speaker 3>last days, the spirit will be poured out upon all

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<v Speaker 3>my people handmaids as well. What is that talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Is that talking about the the blood Moons of Isruel?

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<v Speaker 3>It mentions the blood Moon, doesn't it? But how does

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<v Speaker 3>Acts interpret the Book of Joel? Does it say that

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<v Speaker 3>it's the end of the world and John Hagen's goofy church. No,

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<v Speaker 3>it says that at Pentecost. In Acts too, Joel is

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<v Speaker 3>being fulfilled. Do you see that what Joel is talking

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<v Speaker 3>about is the exact same thing Jesus is talking about. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is an interesting text here he says, these people,

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<v Speaker 3>somehow in this nation that had rejected him, they will

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<v Speaker 3>fall by the edge of the sword. They will be

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<v Speaker 3>led away captive into all the nations. That's not talking

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<v Speaker 3>about the end of the world. That happened forty years

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<v Speaker 3>later the diaspora. Don't you know basic history? No, Evangelic

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<v Speaker 3>don't know basic history. By the way, a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>Protestants and Orthodox get this wrong as well. And we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to see the Church fathers rebuking many protest Orthots

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<v Speaker 3>show you in Catholic teaching, Catholic liturgy talks about preterism.

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<v Speaker 3>But you didn't know that, did you? And I found

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<v Speaker 3>that in a trad work. I couldn't believe it an

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<v Speaker 3>old trad Missile actually mentions preterism. It's amazing anyway, rare fine,

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<v Speaker 3>rare gems. Nobody else has ever noticed this or talked

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<v Speaker 3>about this. Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles until

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<v Speaker 3>the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled. Now, even the

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<v Speaker 3>evangelicals in their own wrong goofy interpretation of this can't

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<v Speaker 3>make sense of that text because they've put that at

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the world. So Jerusalem is going to

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<v Speaker 1>For what.

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<v Speaker 3>Three and a half years? But he just said that

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<v Speaker 3>the Jews are gonna be led captive into all the

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<v Speaker 3>other nations. That's not talk about the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what happened forty years later after he said this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm gonna there's many many more texts we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>look at. But you understand the import of this. If

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<v Speaker 3>you move all this to the future, all unfulfilled, the

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<v Speaker 3>force of all of this argumentation, the force of the

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<v Speaker 3>reality that was brought at the First Advent is gone.

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<v Speaker 3>The Church is no longer the actuality of Heaven on Earth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's some aschotological thing at the end of time. That's

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<v Speaker 3>not here. Now we're still waiting on all this stuff. Right. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>no Plan B. Christ is the fulfillment of all the

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<v Speaker 3>covenants in him. Every promise of God is yeay. Paul says,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not some postpone thing. That's crazy talk. Nobody believed

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<v Speaker 3>that dumb heresy until one hundred years ago. Looking for

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<v Speaker 3>my other Bible, because I've got some interesting notes in there.

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<v Speaker 3>Now as we read on cosmic signs, Josephus describes all

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<v Speaker 3>these cosmic signs. What do you mean there were no

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<v Speaker 3>cosmic signs in the first century, mister evangelical, Yes there were.

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<v Speaker 3>Josephis describes them. He was an eyewitness. The powers of

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<v Speaker 3>heaven will be shaken. We lose the powers of heaven

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<v Speaker 3>shooking first suit you do you know what it means

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<v Speaker 3>when the prophets use the term the powers of heaven

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<v Speaker 3>will be shaken. In Isaiah Knight, I think it's nineteen

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<v Speaker 3>Off the top of my head, there's a text where

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<v Speaker 3>it says God will come into Egypt and destroy Egypt.

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<v Speaker 3>Isaiah's prophesies. God will return, He will come the powers

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<v Speaker 3>of heaven will be shaken. He said, it would be

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<v Speaker 3>like the luminaries will fall. That means the rulers. Luminaries

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<v Speaker 3>represent rulers, doesn't always mean literally the sun and the

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<v Speaker 3>moon fall down and everything's destroyed. Now, at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the world, there will be a renovation of the

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<v Speaker 3>entire creation. Yes, but that's not what this is talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Did God return in Isaiah nineteen to Egypt when he

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<v Speaker 3>uses the exact same phraseology and language of Luke twenty one? No,

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<v Speaker 3>of course not. Did the whole Was all of heaven

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<v Speaker 3>destroyed in Isaiah nineteen. No, And that's talking about a

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<v Speaker 3>prophecy in Isaiah's day against Egypt. So people get confused

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<v Speaker 3>and they get muddled, and they don't know what they're

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<v Speaker 3>talking about because they don't actually know their Bible from

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of the advantages of being immersed in Protestanism

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<v Speaker 3>forever and ever ever is that you do get to

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<v Speaker 3>know your Bible if you take it seriously right, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you you weed out a lot of these mistakes,

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<v Speaker 3>and then you go and you read the Church fallows

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<v Speaker 3>and you realize they had they had it right the

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<v Speaker 3>whole time, Like you could have just you know, gone

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<v Speaker 3>to them anyway. But I'm going to show you that that, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 3>most of the Eastern Fathers, the important Eastern Fathers, they

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<v Speaker 3>actually were preterists. They got this right. Why this wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>as common in the Latin West, I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 3>could be attributed to many reasons, who knows, but we

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<v Speaker 3>know that the Eastern Church, the Eastern Fathers were consistent,

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<v Speaker 3>they got it right. I'm even going to show you

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<v Speaker 3>modern monastic works right that talk about preterism. Anyway, Now,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not full preterists. That's heresy. Full pradism is utterly,

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<v Speaker 3>totally unorthodox. I can't believe that all the resurrection, everything

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<v Speaker 3>is already fulfilled. That's crazy. Anyway. Well, let's see, so

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<v Speaker 3>this comes up all the time in our discord. Is

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<v Speaker 3>part of the reason I'm doing this is to have

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<v Speaker 3>something to refer to so we don't have to keep

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<v Speaker 3>giving this talk over and over and over, because I've

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<v Speaker 3>given this explanation about twenty times in discord. So then

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<v Speaker 3>he goes on to talk about the fig tree. The

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<v Speaker 3>fig tree always represents Israel. Israel is withering, right, It's

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<v Speaker 3>a worthless fig tree. It hasn't produced the fruit that

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<v Speaker 3>is supposed to. I got dusty books out its almost

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<v Speaker 3>start sneezing it again. And another one of the key

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<v Speaker 3>texts that we want to know for this. So Luke

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<v Speaker 3>is good because in Luke twenty one it's actually a

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<v Speaker 3>little clearer than Matthew twenty four. They're both the all

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<v Speaker 3>of that discourse, obviously, right. But if you go back

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<v Speaker 3>to Matthew twenty three, right before Matthew twenty four, which

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<v Speaker 3>is Matthew's version of what's in Luke twenty one, Jesus

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<v Speaker 3>says he's talking about the fate of Israel. It's the

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<v Speaker 3>same context. He says, Oh Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who

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<v Speaker 3>stones the prophets and those sent to you. How I

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<v Speaker 3>would have gathered you together as children, as a hen

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<v Speaker 3>gathers er chicken ers win. But you were not willing.

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<v Speaker 3>Your house is left to you desolate. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>prediction of seventy eighty. That's what is talking. It's talking

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<v Speaker 3>about seventy year else has left you desolate? What do

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<v Speaker 3>you think it means? Desolation? What's the abomination of desolation?

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<v Speaker 2>What is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that whole chapter of twenty three is a rebuke

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<v Speaker 3>to that generation, the generation of his day that rejected him.

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<v Speaker 3>That whole chapter is a rebuke of that generation. And

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<v Speaker 3>that generation is what's going to undergo seventy a d.

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<v Speaker 3>Which is the culmination of all of the covenant curses.

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<v Speaker 3>All those predictions of covenant curses are going to be

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<v Speaker 3>exacted upon that generation. From the murder of Able to

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<v Speaker 3>the murder of Zacharia between the Altar, all of that

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<v Speaker 3>will come in culmination as the measure of their iniquity

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<v Speaker 3>fills up upon that generation of Jesus day because they

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<v Speaker 3>rejected the Son of God. So when we understand that,

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<v Speaker 3>we begin to understand. Now, wait a minute. The fall

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<v Speaker 3>of Jerusalem originally to the Babylonians right from five to

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<v Speaker 3>eighty six, that fall is emblematic of the future falls.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm going to show you that this was true

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<v Speaker 3>even in the Old Testament. This is not some made

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<v Speaker 3>up Christian hermenudy. This was true even back then. So

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<v Speaker 3>we're all familiar with. If you get to the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the Books of the Kings, right, that's when Israel

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<v Speaker 3>falls and they're taken captive. Both first the northern tribe

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<v Speaker 3>falls I think to the Syrians, and then the Southern

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<v Speaker 3>tribe falls Babylonians, right, and they're led into captivity, and

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<v Speaker 3>then they have the seventy years of Babylonian captivity. So

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<v Speaker 3>the prophets will speak of this period of captivity, and

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<v Speaker 3>of course Daniel is one of the most important for

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<v Speaker 3>this time of captivity. And that's why when we see

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel two, we noticed that he gives a prediction of

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<v Speaker 3>successive world empires. The first imagery that describes the success

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<v Speaker 3>of world empires is the giant Idyl of Nebukineser's dream.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's familiar with, hopefully the story of Daniel and Nebukinese's dream,

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<v Speaker 3>and it predicts the success of world empires the Babylonian,

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<v Speaker 3>Middle Persian, Greeks, and Romans. Later on we have in

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel another dream, another vision, and Daniel sees beasts all right. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>this is later on in eleven. But before we get

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<v Speaker 3>to Daniel eleven, there's in Daniel nine there's a prediction,

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<v Speaker 3>famous prediction of the seventy weeks. I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 3>get into this the minutia because we would be here

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<v Speaker 3>all night and it's it's a lot of debated stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's stick to what's obvious.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And what's obvious is that if you have the Orthodox

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<v Speaker 3>Bible and the Canon of Scripture according to the Orthodox Church,

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<v Speaker 3>and if you notice the notes on Daniel nine, what's

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<v Speaker 3>the first text that's mentioned there? The Epistle of Barnabas,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the early Patristic writings, not in the Canon Scripture,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's very early. Chapter sixteen observes that this chapter

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel nine, twenty four to twenty seven is fulfilled when

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<v Speaker 3>the temple and the sanctuary were destroyed in seventy eighty.

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<v Speaker 3>The Orthodox Study Bible has it right here. Yes, preterism.

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<v Speaker 3>Barnabas also points out that the true temple is the

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<v Speaker 3>body of Christ. That's why Jesus says, destroy the temple

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll raise it again in three days. Spiritual temple

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<v Speaker 3>is His body. By extension the church as well. Thus,

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<v Speaker 3>the seventy weeks here is meant seventy weeks of years

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<v Speaker 3>four hundred and ninety years seventy times seven. The prophecy

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<v Speaker 3>applies to Jeremiah's seventy years. This is why Daniel in

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<v Speaker 3>the book says, I figured this out by reading jeremiah patterns. So,

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<v Speaker 3>unless you wanted to reject Daniel from scripture. Daniel in

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<v Speaker 3>the Old Testament is admitting the pattern and recurring pattern

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<v Speaker 3>principle of hermautics in the Old Testament itself. This is

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<v Speaker 3>because people who oppose our position, they say, oh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>not you're violating, that's not improper hermoneutic. You can't just

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<v Speaker 3>you can't take a prediction in the Old Testament and

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<v Speaker 3>make patterned applications of Oh, really, well, Daniel does. Saint

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<v Speaker 3>Hippolotists says, this is about the coming of the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Hypologists gives this a preterist interpretation. The Epistle of

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<v Speaker 3>barne of Us gives us a predorist interpretation. This is

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<v Speaker 3>not talking about the end of the world. And guess

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<v Speaker 3>what if Daniel nine is predist according to these father

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<v Speaker 3>then Matthew twenty four and Luke twenty one are also

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<v Speaker 3>preterists because they're talking about the same event. Why do

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<v Speaker 3>I know that? What does it say? The prophecy says

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<v Speaker 3>after sixty two weeks, All right, Messiah the Prince is

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<v Speaker 3>who's predicted here. I think everybody knows clearly that's the Messiah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Although some of the goofy evangelicals think Messiah the prince

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<v Speaker 3>is the Antichrist, which is utterly ridiculous. But after sixty

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<v Speaker 3>weeks an annoyed one would be put to death. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the death of Christ. Come on here, let's stop

533
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<v Speaker 3>being stupid. Okay, there will be a judgment for him.

534
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<v Speaker 3>There will be no upright judge for him. He will

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<v Speaker 3>destroy the city and the sanctuary with the prince who

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<v Speaker 3>is coming. Titus, the Roman warrior, is who destroyed Rusalem.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus says, do you remember the parable of the vine dressers?

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<v Speaker 3>He says, what will happen to the vine dressers when

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<v Speaker 3>the king comes back? He will bring his armies and

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<v Speaker 3>he will destroy those wicked people. Matthew twenty two. Jesus says,

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<v Speaker 3>this is what's going to happen in seventy eighty. Do

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<v Speaker 3>you understand that this is why seventy eighty is so important.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the end. It's the culmination of the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the Mosaic economy and by extension, the entire Old Testament economy.

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<v Speaker 3>They shall appoint the city for desolations. This is the

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<v Speaker 3>abomination of desolation. Then he will confirm a covenant with

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<v Speaker 3>many for one week, and in the middle of the week,

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<v Speaker 3>the sacrifice and the drink offering will be taken away,

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<v Speaker 3>and there will be in the temple the abomination of desolation.

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<v Speaker 3>And at the end of time, and at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the time, excuse me, an end to the desolation

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<v Speaker 3>shall be appointed. Let's go back a little bit, because

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<v Speaker 3>it actually starts in I read twenty six skip up

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty four seventy weeks or a determine for your

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<v Speaker 3>people for the Holy City to make an end to sins.

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<v Speaker 3>This is the measure of the sins of these people,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus says. All of the culmination of the sins will

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<v Speaker 3>come upon this generation. From righteous Able to Zachariah, this generation,

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<v Speaker 3>and thus all things written in the prophets will be fulfilled,

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus says to the generation standing in front of him.

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<v Speaker 3>Once you know this and then you read through the gospels,

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<v Speaker 3>this is so obvious. Of course, that's what he say.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not talking about John Hagey and the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the world crappy. So I'm about the generation standing in

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<v Speaker 3>front of him. I'm not saying there's no application to

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<v Speaker 3>the end of the world. We'll get to that. No,

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<v Speaker 3>And therefore know therefore and understand that from the going

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<v Speaker 3>forth of the word to be answered, and to build

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<v Speaker 3>Jerusalem until Messiah the Prince. There will be seventy two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, there shall be seven weeks and sixty two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Then he will return. The streets in the wall will

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<v Speaker 3>be rebuilt, and the time will be left desolate. And

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<v Speaker 3>after sixty two weeks the annoyed to one will be

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<v Speaker 3>put to death. So it's finishing iniquity. It's also to

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<v Speaker 3>atone for iniquity and to bring in everlasting righteousness, to

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<v Speaker 3>end and seal up the visions and the prophecies, and

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<v Speaker 3>to anoint the Holy of Holies. This is all what

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus did. Jesus brings eternal righteousness. Jesus atones for sin.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus ends the old Covenant economy. Just read the Book

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<v Speaker 3>of Hebrews. The Book of Hebrews is about this. It

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<v Speaker 3>proves this. The whole book is saying that Christ has

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<v Speaker 3>brought the reality. We don't need temples, we don't need

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<v Speaker 3>animal sacrifices, we don't need those old mosaic administration implements

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<v Speaker 3>anymore because they're fulfilled in Christ and in the Church.

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<v Speaker 3>The Church is a continuation of Israel. Once you have

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<v Speaker 3>this mindset, this becomes a very powerful prediction and prophecy.

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<v Speaker 3>And you'll note in the text in the note twenty

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<v Speaker 3>four through twenty seven that there is a helpful because

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<v Speaker 3>we have duterocanonical second Esdras, right, we have Esdras Nehemiah right,

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<v Speaker 3>second Esdras that if we want to date it roughly

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<v Speaker 3>in what's mentioned in second Esdras seven, seven and eight,

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<v Speaker 3>then we under Artiser sees then we have a good

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<v Speaker 3>case for the actual specific dating. Now that's debated. That's fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not that interested in the exact pinpoint because even

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't have that view, this is still believed

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<v Speaker 3>to be written before Rome. So unless you have some

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<v Speaker 3>view that I'm not aware of, that Daniel wrote after

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<v Speaker 3>the Roman Empire, which I've never heard anybody propose that

599
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<v Speaker 3>this is talking about successive world empires. This is talking

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<v Speaker 3>about and I don't this isn't even debated like the

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<v Speaker 3>four successive empires from He's dating it from the time

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<v Speaker 3>of Daniel. I mean the Babylonian captivity. It's a babylon

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Persians, right, Darius Cyrus that stuff right, Remember

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<v Speaker 3>that in Isaiah and Daniel, the Greeks, when we have

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<v Speaker 3>Alexander and Antiochus, Seppefanese and then Rome. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think anybody down now think of the stupidity of taking

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<v Speaker 3>these empires and then taking the last empire under which

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<v Speaker 3>the Messiah will be worn according to Daniel, and saying

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<v Speaker 3>that that's the Eu, like these goofy Avenge, think how

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<v Speaker 3>stupid that is. It's not the EU that destroys the

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<v Speaker 3>whole prophecy of Jesus being born under the fourth Empire

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<v Speaker 3>after the Greeks, that's Rome. Jesus is born under the

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<v Speaker 3>Roman Empire. The Gospels make it a point to say that,

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<v Speaker 3>to show that it's fulfilling what Daniel predicted. Now things

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<v Speaker 3>get difficult, yes they are, Harry, they're difficult when we

616
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<v Speaker 3>come to the sections in Daniel ten and eleven about

617
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<v Speaker 3>the Angelic Visitor, in particular chapter eleven, which appears to

618
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<v Speaker 3>be about the Maccabies, right because it talks about Antiochus,

619
00:46:41.920 --> 00:46:48.280
<v Speaker 3>it talks about the Greeks, so it's predicting, and it

620
00:46:48.440 --> 00:46:53.760
<v Speaker 3>mentions in Daniel eleven the abomination of desolation. How do

621
00:46:53.880 --> 00:46:56.840
<v Speaker 3>we solve this? Well, guess what if you have the

622
00:46:56.920 --> 00:47:01.400
<v Speaker 3>view that I just told you of mirrored events, you

623
00:47:01.519 --> 00:47:05.760
<v Speaker 3>know exactly how to solve this because if you read Maccabees,

624
00:47:05.880 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 3>then you know that there's a desolation that occurs under

625
00:47:08.639 --> 00:47:13.960
<v Speaker 3>the Maccabees, and not just under the Maccabees. It happens

626
00:47:14.000 --> 00:47:17.119
<v Speaker 3>in third Maccabees, undertole of Me. So there's not just

627
00:47:17.320 --> 00:47:23.239
<v Speaker 3>one abomination of desolation the temple gets desecrated. There's an abomination,

628
00:47:23.400 --> 00:47:28.320
<v Speaker 3>abomination that makes for desolations more than once. Now how

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00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:36.400
<v Speaker 3>do I know that? Ultimately? Because Jesus cites Daniel. Jesus

630
00:47:36.480 --> 00:47:41.559
<v Speaker 3>cites Daniel's abomination of desolation. And what's Jesus talking about.

631
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.880
<v Speaker 3>We all know he's talking about seventy eight. We know

632
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 3>that's what he's talking about. When the Romans come in,

633
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.840
<v Speaker 3>they desecrate the temple, just like the Babylonians had back

634
00:47:53.880 --> 00:47:57.960
<v Speaker 3>in five eighty six BC, just like Antiochus does. The Greek,

635
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:05.599
<v Speaker 3>one of Alexander's underlings, he sacrifices a pig on the altar.

636
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:11.480
<v Speaker 3>Antiochus does. That's what makes the Maccabees so furious. He

637
00:48:11.760 --> 00:48:15.000
<v Speaker 3>desecrates the temple. He's a type of Antichrist. He's a

638
00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 3>satanically inspired individual who is mocking God by that action.

639
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.960
<v Speaker 3>Have you not read Maccabee's That's what the whole book's about.

640
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:31.880
<v Speaker 3>It occurs again ptold of me P told me is

641
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:38.039
<v Speaker 3>a Egyptian ruler. And in third Maccabees there's another type

642
00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:46.039
<v Speaker 3>of this event. By the way, Jeremiah predicts these same events, right,

643
00:48:46.159 --> 00:48:49.559
<v Speaker 3>Jeremiah speaks of the abomination of desolation in Jeremiah four.

644
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:54.880
<v Speaker 3>This is the proof for my view. It's something my view.

645
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:58.320
<v Speaker 3>I just got this from what the prophets themselves did

646
00:48:58.400 --> 00:49:01.199
<v Speaker 3>in terms of hermeneutics. I didn't invent this, and it's

647
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:03.000
<v Speaker 3>the way that the church fathers apply this text.

648
00:49:03.199 --> 00:49:03.280
<v Speaker 4>Right.

649
00:49:03.400 --> 00:49:06.440
<v Speaker 3>So if you read Jeremiah four, we did a whole

650
00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 3>lecture on Jeremiah. Go listen to that. You will see

651
00:49:08.920 --> 00:49:14.119
<v Speaker 3>the same four animals of Daniel. When Daniel says I

652
00:49:14.239 --> 00:49:18.679
<v Speaker 3>read Jeremiah to get my hermaeneutic in this pattern, he's

653
00:49:18.719 --> 00:49:21.719
<v Speaker 3>not doing anything different than what Jeremiah did. Jeremiah has

654
00:49:21.760 --> 00:49:26.679
<v Speaker 3>the same animals, the same beasts. Now that we understand this,

655
00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:29.079
<v Speaker 3>it's that easy, right. And by the way, when you

656
00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:38.000
<v Speaker 3>read into let's see Jeremiah, this continues the curses upon

657
00:49:38.079 --> 00:49:40.199
<v Speaker 3>the people. All you have to do is understand that

658
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:45.960
<v Speaker 3>it's a recurring pattern. It's that easy. And the key.

659
00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:50.320
<v Speaker 3>The key to this is the maccabies. It's Jeremiah eight,

660
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:57.119
<v Speaker 3>by the way. So what I'm saying here is that

661
00:49:57.960 --> 00:50:00.880
<v Speaker 3>this term abomination that makes for decl of abomination of

662
00:50:00.920 --> 00:50:09.480
<v Speaker 3>desolation is when the altar is defiled, when a pagan

663
00:50:09.800 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 3>ruler comes in and defiles the altar. It happens in

664
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<v Speaker 3>five eighty six base BC with the Babbylony captivity. This

665
00:50:20.079 --> 00:50:24.159
<v Speaker 3>is predicted in Jeremiah thirty six and thirty seven. Right,

666
00:50:25.159 --> 00:50:26.880
<v Speaker 3>this is what Daniel's talking about when he says I

667
00:50:26.960 --> 00:50:30.079
<v Speaker 3>was reading Jeremiah to figure all this out. It says

668
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<v Speaker 3>that I prayed, and Gabriel came and explained all this

669
00:50:32.760 --> 00:50:43.119
<v Speaker 3>to me. So Daniel prophesying under the captivity. You see,

670
00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.679
<v Speaker 3>he's after Jeremiah. He says, I went back, I read

671
00:50:46.719 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 3>the scrolls of Jeremiah. God enlightened me. Gabriel came, explained

672
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:56.400
<v Speaker 3>me the Gabriel hermeneutic, which is the right hermaudic, and

673
00:50:56.480 --> 00:50:58.760
<v Speaker 3>then I saw what was going on. I saw the

674
00:50:58.920 --> 00:51:01.840
<v Speaker 3>coming world empire, the same ones that Jeremiah predicted, the

675
00:51:01.880 --> 00:51:06.920
<v Speaker 3>same beasts. Do you understand that it's the same animals. Now,

676
00:51:07.760 --> 00:51:12.039
<v Speaker 3>how dumb is it, how dumb and undermining of our

677
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:17.840
<v Speaker 3>whole thing to take the fourth Beast, rip it out

678
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:20.800
<v Speaker 3>of the fulfillment of the Roman Empire and the birth

679
00:51:20.840 --> 00:51:24.239
<v Speaker 3>of the Messiah and apply this to some stupid EU stuff.

680
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:30.000
<v Speaker 3>But the EU has a poster with the tar bubbon. Yeah,

681
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:32.519
<v Speaker 3>I know that, But so what we don't do hermoneudicts

682
00:51:32.559 --> 00:51:35.639
<v Speaker 3>by posters and reading that back into the Bible. That's retarded,

683
00:51:36.880 --> 00:51:41.480
<v Speaker 3>totally stupid. You just destroyed the one of the strongest

684
00:51:41.519 --> 00:51:45.000
<v Speaker 3>proofs for the religion by doing that, you idiot. And

685
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:51.280
<v Speaker 3>by the way, what was that just reading the catechetical

686
00:51:51.400 --> 00:51:53.519
<v Speaker 3>lectures of Seid people get there? You you so mean

687
00:51:53.559 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 3>to people? You could the catechetical lectures of Saint Cyril.

688
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:59.000
<v Speaker 3>Have you read those? No, you haven't, But if you do,

689
00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:03.079
<v Speaker 3>look at the way he talks about people who are

690
00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:07.719
<v Speaker 3>here a lot like he's he's the most intense I've seen,

691
00:52:07.800 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Like Saint Cyril. He just like he's like, you're demonic,

692
00:52:13.079 --> 00:52:16.719
<v Speaker 3>you're the mouths of heretics. You're there, the mouths of heretics,

693
00:52:16.760 --> 00:52:20.199
<v Speaker 3>of the gates of Hell. He says, they're fools, they're idiots.

694
00:52:20.199 --> 00:52:23.079
<v Speaker 3>They're every name in the book. He has no problem

695
00:52:23.199 --> 00:52:27.360
<v Speaker 3>in his catechises. Did you hear that he's teaching catechumens.

696
00:52:28.320 --> 00:52:32.880
<v Speaker 3>He calls the heretics a bunch of idiots, fools, demons.

697
00:52:35.480 --> 00:52:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Me calling them retarto is being nice compared to the

698
00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:42.920
<v Speaker 3>way Saint Cyril speaks of them in the category of elections.

699
00:52:42.920 --> 00:52:48.239
<v Speaker 3>So anyway, so this I think is the solution to

700
00:52:48.599 --> 00:52:54.159
<v Speaker 3>this Maccabee's uh, and there is, it's in it's right

701
00:52:54.199 --> 00:52:58.239
<v Speaker 3>away right first mccabee's first few chapters is the abomination there,

702
00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:08.760
<v Speaker 3>this is what sparks the Maccabees to revolt. And then yeah,

703
00:53:11.719 --> 00:53:15.039
<v Speaker 3>so the abomination of desolation. Now this is after Daniel.

704
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:17.559
<v Speaker 3>You see. So I'm going to prove this if we

705
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.599
<v Speaker 3>open up second Let's mentioned in Second Macabees two, but

706
00:53:21.679 --> 00:53:32.800
<v Speaker 3>let's go to first Macabees and we'll see that this

707
00:53:32.920 --> 00:53:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Antichrist move is an attempt to stamp out the missile.

708
00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:39.039
<v Speaker 3>Why are they doing this? Why do these pagan emperors

709
00:53:39.079 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 3>even care? Well, we know that it's actually inspired by Satan,

710
00:53:43.719 --> 00:53:47.360
<v Speaker 3>who back in Genesis three was told that the seed

711
00:53:47.400 --> 00:53:49.199
<v Speaker 3>of the woman is going to crush the head of

712
00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:53.360
<v Speaker 3>the serpent. So he knows that from this lineage, somebody's

713
00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:55.480
<v Speaker 3>coming that's going to be a problem for him. Now,

714
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:58.559
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't know everything, he's not omniscient, so he doesn't

715
00:53:58.559 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 3>have the full picture, but he knows that he needs

716
00:54:01.519 --> 00:54:03.719
<v Speaker 3>to get rid of this group, this people group. This

717
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.199
<v Speaker 3>is why the Jews are constantly persecuted in the Old Testament.

718
00:54:07.760 --> 00:54:12.440
<v Speaker 3>And so in a first Maccabe's Chapter one, we have

719
00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:19.920
<v Speaker 3>the Abomination of Desolation, verse fifty four. They set up

720
00:54:19.960 --> 00:54:21.960
<v Speaker 3>the abomination of desolation and the altar of the whole

721
00:54:22.000 --> 00:54:25.400
<v Speaker 3>burnt offering and brought the altars in the surrounding cities

722
00:54:25.400 --> 00:54:28.800
<v Speaker 3>of Jerusalem, of Judah. They burned incense at the door,

723
00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:30.920
<v Speaker 3>found the Book of the Law, burn them. They burned

724
00:54:31.000 --> 00:54:33.320
<v Speaker 3>up the book. They found the Book of the Covenant,

725
00:54:35.920 --> 00:54:40.039
<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah, and it says they wanted to kill

726
00:54:40.079 --> 00:54:46.639
<v Speaker 3>everybody they acted against Israel. Okay, so why they want

727
00:54:46.639 --> 00:54:48.239
<v Speaker 3>to kill everybody because the Messiah is going to be

728
00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:52.119
<v Speaker 3>born of this people. Right now, Antiochus Epiphanes is not

729
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:56.119
<v Speaker 3>that intelligence. He doesn't know what's going on. Right Antiochis

730
00:54:56.199 --> 00:55:01.119
<v Speaker 3>pillages the temple. He's just a possessed idiot, right, But

731
00:55:01.280 --> 00:55:05.119
<v Speaker 3>behind him is that Satanic spirit, same spirit behind the

732
00:55:05.159 --> 00:55:13.920
<v Speaker 3>babyloon in captivity. So then we have the story of

733
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.199
<v Speaker 3>the Maccabees, right, and then the abomination comes up again

734
00:55:19.119 --> 00:55:22.920
<v Speaker 3>in six where they Antiochus the fourth is about to die.

735
00:55:25.719 --> 00:55:29.480
<v Speaker 3>The abomination is still there, the idol on top of

736
00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:31.960
<v Speaker 3>the temple or the alter excuse me, and so Judas

737
00:55:32.000 --> 00:55:37.639
<v Speaker 3>Macabeas turns it tears it down. Is the Judas somebody

738
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:46.559
<v Speaker 3>tears it down. They pulled down the abomination. They do

739
00:55:46.639 --> 00:55:50.280
<v Speaker 3>in pracatory prayers. By the way, we have the mention

740
00:55:50.400 --> 00:55:56.079
<v Speaker 3>of Rome beginning to rise, and this fulfills Daniels in

741
00:55:56.239 --> 00:56:00.480
<v Speaker 3>chapter eight. This fulfills Daniel's prediction of the Fourth beasts

742
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 3>the bottom of the of nevcan eesers image right the

743
00:56:05.440 --> 00:56:12.239
<v Speaker 3>feet of the image in chapter nine of First Maccabees.

744
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:14.280
<v Speaker 3>That right. They keep trying to destroy the temple. They

745
00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:24.199
<v Speaker 3>keep trying to destroy it. The bomination is okay. So

746
00:56:25.119 --> 00:56:27.599
<v Speaker 3>in chapter twelve of Maccabees.

747
00:56:32.480 --> 00:56:32.840
<v Speaker 2>We have.

748
00:56:34.320 --> 00:56:41.000
<v Speaker 3>I have a note here on our semi note. I

749
00:56:41.000 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 3>don't know you can read chapter twelve, but once again

750
00:56:43.360 --> 00:56:46.880
<v Speaker 3>you'll see that this is a mirroring. The abomination is mirrored.

751
00:56:46.920 --> 00:56:52.440
<v Speaker 3>In seventy eighty Accorney Luke twenty one. But that's not all. Now,

752
00:56:52.960 --> 00:56:59.360
<v Speaker 3>keep in mind, if you're evangelical, you don't have maccabees,

753
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:05.920
<v Speaker 3>you don't have this key insight of seeing that Daniel

754
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:10.480
<v Speaker 3>nine is mirrored. Now, maybe you could derive it just

755
00:57:10.519 --> 00:57:15.000
<v Speaker 3>from reading Jeremiah and Daniel. That's plausible. But I think

756
00:57:15.039 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 3>this is a key insight because let's see if we

757
00:57:20.280 --> 00:57:24.400
<v Speaker 3>move to second mccabee's I think I think it comes

758
00:57:24.480 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 3>up again. Abomination comes up again in second mccabee's five. Yes,

759
00:57:41.800 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 3>once again. The attempt is to stamp out this race

760
00:57:49.519 --> 00:57:53.599
<v Speaker 3>of people, and to do so they want to destroy

761
00:57:53.840 --> 00:57:56.239
<v Speaker 3>the worship of this race of people. You see, That's

762
00:57:56.280 --> 00:57:59.320
<v Speaker 3>why this is so key. Yes, And then in chapter six,

763
00:57:59.440 --> 00:58:04.880
<v Speaker 3>second mac Be six, you have the persecution Athens versus

764
00:58:05.199 --> 00:58:10.920
<v Speaker 3>Jerusalem here and they try to destroy the temple polluted again.

765
00:58:11.800 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 3>They put up an image of Zeus, Zeus the Hospitable,

766
00:58:19.840 --> 00:58:21.800
<v Speaker 3>and they want the Jews to stop following the law

767
00:58:21.800 --> 00:58:25.280
<v Speaker 3>of God. Now again, why do they want to destroy

768
00:58:25.360 --> 00:58:29.039
<v Speaker 3>this race of people? Now, all the pagan LARPers, the

769
00:58:29.360 --> 00:58:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Jews or bud No, it's because they're bringing the Messiah,

770
00:58:34.800 --> 00:58:38.000
<v Speaker 3>that's who. And Satan doesn't know. He might have known

771
00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:42.480
<v Speaker 3>the Davidic prophecies, but he doesn't know how this is

772
00:58:42.519 --> 00:58:45.800
<v Speaker 3>going to all go down, right, He just knows if

773
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:48.599
<v Speaker 3>he can stamp out this race, this people, which is

774
00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:52.440
<v Speaker 3>what Pharoh tried to do and who else all these

775
00:58:53.119 --> 00:58:58.079
<v Speaker 3>rulers try to do in Maccabees and what Herod tries

776
00:58:58.159 --> 00:59:00.760
<v Speaker 3>to do. Right, Remember when Herod does Herod does the

777
00:59:00.800 --> 00:59:09.239
<v Speaker 3>exact same thing that's favor now again to prove the

778
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:19.039
<v Speaker 3>repeating pattern view, there's a yet another character in Third Maccabees,

779
00:59:19.039 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 3>another abomination of desolation. In Third Maccabees, the character of

780
00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:31.000
<v Speaker 3>Ptolemy told me yet another type of Antichrist. Uh third

781
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:40.079
<v Speaker 3>Maccabee's chapter two here this is this one's fascinating because

782
00:59:40.079 --> 00:59:45.119
<v Speaker 3>Ptolemy seems to be an even clearer type of Antichrist

783
00:59:46.400 --> 00:59:52.559
<v Speaker 3>than Antiochus was, because what does it say in the

784
00:59:52.719 --> 00:59:56.800
<v Speaker 3>note here at the end of two he tries to

785
00:59:56.960 --> 01:00:02.639
<v Speaker 3>mark everybody with his dionys In Pagan Mystery religion mark right,

786
01:00:03.079 --> 01:00:07.159
<v Speaker 3>look at two twenty eight and twenty nine. And the

787
01:00:07.199 --> 01:00:09.079
<v Speaker 3>notes in the Orthodox study Bell were really good because

788
01:00:09.119 --> 01:00:18.480
<v Speaker 3>they point out Ptolemy registered to those those registered are

789
01:00:18.480 --> 01:00:21.440
<v Speaker 3>those who willingly comply. They are branded with the mark

790
01:00:21.480 --> 01:00:24.360
<v Speaker 3>of allegiance that will be permanent. Some people in ancient

791
01:00:24.400 --> 01:00:26.280
<v Speaker 3>times would brand themselves as a symbol of their god.

792
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:29.440
<v Speaker 3>Here it is the ivy leaf. Saint John predicts a

793
01:00:29.639 --> 01:00:35.360
<v Speaker 3>similar mark when Antichrist comes Revelation thirteen, sixteen seventeen and

794
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:38.519
<v Speaker 3>the note on twenty eight said battle lines are drawn

795
01:00:38.599 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 3>here for an unseen spiritual warfare. The Jews must worship,

796
01:00:42.400 --> 01:00:44.960
<v Speaker 3>must not worship their god by the dictator of Ptolemy,

797
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:50.800
<v Speaker 3>and everyone in Alexandria must sacrifice to the god Dionysius.

798
01:00:54.639 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 3>The census is of the slaves and the servant classes,

799
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:01.679
<v Speaker 3>seemingly unique to Alexander, the juer effectively becoming the property

800
01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:03.840
<v Speaker 3>of the states. So we have like a statism. This

801
01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:06.760
<v Speaker 3>is the beast, right that the beast is the state

802
01:01:07.559 --> 01:01:11.400
<v Speaker 3>proclaiming itself God. And in the apocalypse, of course it

803
01:01:11.519 --> 01:01:14.480
<v Speaker 3>has a religion that goes along with it, the false prophet.

804
01:01:15.000 --> 01:01:16.920
<v Speaker 3>But the beast is the state. It's a state power

805
01:01:17.480 --> 01:01:21.320
<v Speaker 3>who has along with it a false prophet, the whore,

806
01:01:22.119 --> 01:01:27.000
<v Speaker 3>the hoe, which is the false religion. But I just

807
01:01:27.079 --> 01:01:30.719
<v Speaker 3>want to point out that third Maccabees and told of

808
01:01:30.800 --> 01:01:35.199
<v Speaker 3>me with his mark. Imagine that and a whole other

809
01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:40.079
<v Speaker 3>type and pattern, recurring pattern of an antichrist figure who

810
01:01:40.159 --> 01:01:43.599
<v Speaker 3>tries to mark everybody so that they can have commerce

811
01:01:43.679 --> 01:01:47.079
<v Speaker 3>and all that and live in the world. Right, and

812
01:01:47.199 --> 01:01:50.800
<v Speaker 3>if you don't have maccabees, and by the way, Orthodox

813
01:01:50.880 --> 01:01:53.599
<v Speaker 3>have third Maccabees. You see, so yet another proof that

814
01:01:53.719 --> 01:01:58.639
<v Speaker 3>we have another testament to our view that the other

815
01:01:58.679 --> 01:02:02.320
<v Speaker 3>people don't have. All right, let me pour a little

816
01:02:02.360 --> 01:02:05.480
<v Speaker 3>more coffee, because it's late and we're having a late

817
01:02:05.599 --> 01:02:08.000
<v Speaker 3>night theology stream with whow four hundred and fifty people.

818
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:12.400
<v Speaker 3>I didn't know this many people would be interested in first, second,

819
01:02:12.440 --> 01:02:15.079
<v Speaker 3>third Macabees in old Testament predictions. Now, if you would

820
01:02:15.119 --> 01:02:19.840
<v Speaker 3>smash like, give me that like, and I much appreciate that,

821
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:22.719
<v Speaker 3>and let me pour a little coffee. Listen to a

822
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.599
<v Speaker 3>little bit of sweet amid the ruins dire wave. Give

823
01:02:25.639 --> 01:02:27.920
<v Speaker 3>me about thirty seconds. Don't run off, don't run off,

824
01:02:29.079 --> 01:02:33.599
<v Speaker 3>be're right back, all right, welcome, thank you, glad to

825
01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:37.199
<v Speaker 3>see you all here. We got a room of almost

826
01:02:37.199 --> 01:02:40.039
<v Speaker 3>two hundred nerds. I'm sure the nerds will pile in

827
01:02:40.760 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 3>then we can get up to about three hundred to night.

828
01:02:42.519 --> 01:02:51.599
<v Speaker 6>We'll see it's your boy Jay in the house. You

829
01:02:51.760 --> 01:02:53.199
<v Speaker 6>boy can't see me.

830
01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:50.320
<v Speaker 3>All right, I got some more firewater. By that, I

831
01:03:50.440 --> 01:03:56.920
<v Speaker 3>mean coffee, I don't mean spirits. I don't drink. It's

832
01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.559
<v Speaker 3>weird how I've never have a desire to drink at all. Ever.

833
01:04:02.159 --> 01:04:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I used to love alcohol my twenties. I drink all

834
01:04:05.880 --> 01:04:09.800
<v Speaker 3>the time, and thankfully. I mean yeah, I mean I

835
01:04:09.920 --> 01:04:11.599
<v Speaker 3>wasn't like a super drunk, but I did drink too

836
01:04:11.679 --> 01:04:16.559
<v Speaker 3>much and then just went away. It's crazy, no desire ones,

837
01:04:16.599 --> 01:04:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't ever.

838
01:04:17.719 --> 01:04:18.039
<v Speaker 1>I just.

839
01:04:20.119 --> 01:04:25.760
<v Speaker 3>It's just I don't know. It's a weird thing. Wish

840
01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 3>I could be I'd be delivered by from my other

841
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:30.960
<v Speaker 3>vices so easily, like get rid of the other The

842
01:04:31.000 --> 01:04:32.800
<v Speaker 3>other ones are a little harder, right, It's like the

843
01:04:32.840 --> 01:04:39.559
<v Speaker 3>other ones are quitting, quitting alcohol, quitting smoking cigarettes. Those

844
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:42.000
<v Speaker 3>are easy compared to the other vices, you know what

845
01:04:42.039 --> 01:04:44.159
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Like pride and that kind of stuff.

846
01:04:45.000 --> 01:04:46.880
<v Speaker 7>All right, let's see what was I going to do next?

847
01:04:47.000 --> 01:04:54.639
<v Speaker 7>We talked about the beasts third Macabees. Okay, so let's

848
01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:58.280
<v Speaker 7>look at uh some of the texts.

849
01:05:01.840 --> 01:05:08.360
<v Speaker 3>Now. I believe that the apocalypse follows the structure roughly

850
01:05:08.519 --> 01:05:10.199
<v Speaker 3>of the all of that discourse. So I do think

851
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:14.280
<v Speaker 3>they're talking about the same event. The best case, in

852
01:05:14.360 --> 01:05:16.480
<v Speaker 3>my view, you have another video. I'm not going to

853
01:05:16.519 --> 01:05:19.239
<v Speaker 3>go onto the Antichrist character itself, but if you want

854
01:05:19.239 --> 01:05:24.239
<v Speaker 3>to watch my video on Antichrist, just try Jade Antichrist

855
01:05:24.320 --> 01:05:26.440
<v Speaker 3>into YouTube and you'll get mine. It's not about ten

856
01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:29.519
<v Speaker 3>thousand music. I spent about forty minutes kind of outlining

857
01:05:29.559 --> 01:05:33.719
<v Speaker 3>my view of Antichrist. Nero is the immediate context. Now,

858
01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:37.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't believe that it's only Nero right. Everything's not

859
01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 3>fulfilled in the first century. That's crazy. That's a heresy.

860
01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:44.800
<v Speaker 3>There are people who are full predists. I do believe

861
01:05:44.840 --> 01:05:46.880
<v Speaker 3>that is a heresy that's completely out of a chord

862
01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:51.599
<v Speaker 3>with the entire history of Orthodox Christianity, the bodily Resurrection,

863
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:55.719
<v Speaker 3>all of that. So no, we don't believe full preterism.

864
01:05:56.320 --> 01:06:00.519
<v Speaker 3>So what's the solution. Well, let's start with the monastic text.

865
01:06:00.960 --> 01:06:03.760
<v Speaker 3>That is a good one to read. Now, unfortunately this

866
01:06:03.840 --> 01:06:08.079
<v Speaker 3>is out of print. I've mentioned it many times at

867
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Ortho Christian There is a summary article. There's an article

868
01:06:11.880 --> 01:06:15.360
<v Speaker 3>that's he printed out. It's about ten pages and it's

869
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:19.760
<v Speaker 3>a summary of this booklet which is like fifty pages roughly,

870
01:06:22.199 --> 01:06:27.559
<v Speaker 3>but there's a great text in here that kind of

871
01:06:27.679 --> 01:06:29.880
<v Speaker 3>lays out my view. So I was actually surprised when

872
01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:31.400
<v Speaker 3>I read because I thought, oh, they're not going to

873
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:33.639
<v Speaker 3>mention preterism. It's going to be it's going to be

874
01:06:33.679 --> 01:06:36.719
<v Speaker 3>all these speculations. And it's not. It's that this is

875
01:06:36.800 --> 01:06:40.480
<v Speaker 3>not bad. It's actually mainly just what the Church fathers say,

876
01:06:41.599 --> 01:06:47.239
<v Speaker 3>so it's not too much speculation. Pretty good overall. I

877
01:06:47.239 --> 01:06:50.000
<v Speaker 3>would say that this this book is pretty accurate probably

878
01:06:50.039 --> 01:06:52.559
<v Speaker 3>how things are going to go down. I'm not saying

879
01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:55.760
<v Speaker 3>we're in in times, so we're not going there. I'm

880
01:06:55.800 --> 01:06:58.840
<v Speaker 3>just trying to give you guys caution here. This is

881
01:06:58.880 --> 01:07:00.920
<v Speaker 3>what we're trying to do. We want accurate view, we

882
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:06.239
<v Speaker 3>don't want to go into sensationalism and speculations. So the

883
01:07:06.280 --> 01:07:09.199
<v Speaker 3>Holy Fathers of the Church explain how all these words

884
01:07:09.239 --> 01:07:13.440
<v Speaker 3>about Matthew twenty four Luke twenty one are a prototype.

885
01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Excuse me, let me go back. The Holy Fathers of

886
01:07:17.920 --> 01:07:21.440
<v Speaker 3>the Church explain that these words the glad tidings of

887
01:07:21.480 --> 01:07:23.679
<v Speaker 3>the Kingdom, will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as

888
01:07:23.719 --> 01:07:25.440
<v Speaker 3>a witness to all the nations, and then the incomes

889
01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:31.199
<v Speaker 3>This points to the destruction of Jerusalem in seventy eighty

890
01:07:31.320 --> 01:07:35.119
<v Speaker 3>as a prototype of the future. Greater tribulations will come

891
01:07:35.199 --> 01:07:37.239
<v Speaker 3>when the fury of this prophecy is fulfilled at the

892
01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:41.000
<v Speaker 3>end of time. The fall of Jerusalem is symbolic of

893
01:07:41.119 --> 01:07:44.800
<v Speaker 3>the end of the world. Terrible though it was, it

894
01:07:44.920 --> 01:07:46.920
<v Speaker 3>was only a shadow of what is to come upon

895
01:07:47.000 --> 01:07:50.239
<v Speaker 3>mankind at the end. Yes, so we want to notice

896
01:07:50.360 --> 01:07:54.719
<v Speaker 3>that that is our pattern of hermeneutics. Here they go

897
01:07:54.840 --> 01:07:58.840
<v Speaker 3>on to note, in addition, many believers begin will follow

898
01:07:58.880 --> 01:08:01.639
<v Speaker 3>after many four run to Antichrist. Okay, so they will

899
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:07.320
<v Speaker 3>mention it mentions that there are many Antichrists. And so

900
01:08:07.480 --> 01:08:10.199
<v Speaker 3>then it goes into many of the church fathers right

901
01:08:10.320 --> 01:08:15.679
<v Speaker 3>talking about what to expect one world religion type thing,

902
01:08:15.800 --> 01:08:20.680
<v Speaker 3>eventually mass apostasy in the church, as Paul predicts a

903
01:08:20.760 --> 01:08:23.520
<v Speaker 3>one at some point, not saying that right now this

904
01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:25.880
<v Speaker 3>is the mass aposta. It could be we may we

905
01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.560
<v Speaker 3>may be getting there. But here's the key thing. The

906
01:08:28.680 --> 01:08:31.039
<v Speaker 3>other thing I wanted to mention from this text, which

907
01:08:31.119 --> 01:08:34.680
<v Speaker 3>is that, uh, one of the elders, I think I've

908
01:08:34.720 --> 01:08:39.039
<v Speaker 3>marked it on one of the saints. I thinks. Anyway,

909
01:08:39.680 --> 01:08:42.119
<v Speaker 3>they make the point that we don't have to worry

910
01:08:42.159 --> 01:08:45.560
<v Speaker 3>about that. Okay, we're not goofy evangelicals who sit around

911
01:08:45.640 --> 01:08:47.760
<v Speaker 3>trying to make big prophecy charts all day to figure

912
01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:49.720
<v Speaker 3>out when the end of the world, the rapture is

913
01:08:49.920 --> 01:08:55.439
<v Speaker 3>all that nonsense. The closer that we get to the end,

914
01:08:56.760 --> 01:09:00.239
<v Speaker 3>the Saints say, the clearer it will be, so we

915
01:09:00.279 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 3>don't have to worry about that. We don't have to

916
01:09:01.720 --> 01:09:06.800
<v Speaker 3>worry about news headlines and trying to is John when

917
01:09:06.840 --> 01:09:10.199
<v Speaker 3>he talks about the scorpions, is that a helicopter with

918
01:09:10.359 --> 01:09:13.439
<v Speaker 3>a nuke attached to it? Just now, we don't have

919
01:09:13.479 --> 01:09:15.399
<v Speaker 3>to worry about that, And I don't think John's talking

920
01:09:15.399 --> 01:09:22.840
<v Speaker 3>about helicopters with nukes. By the way, the Saints are

921
01:09:22.920 --> 01:09:27.199
<v Speaker 3>clear that as the time gets closer that we will

922
01:09:27.279 --> 01:09:31.479
<v Speaker 3>know it's it's gonna be obvious. Okay, it's not gonna

923
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.720
<v Speaker 3>be like nobody's gonna know except five people in a

924
01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 3>monastery somewhere. I mean it will be obvious when we

925
01:09:38.960 --> 01:09:42.680
<v Speaker 3>see these things coming to pass, right, so that we

926
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:45.039
<v Speaker 3>can be I mean it'll be obvious to us in

927
01:09:45.079 --> 01:09:46.399
<v Speaker 3>the church. I'm saying it's not gonna be obvious to

928
01:09:46.439 --> 01:09:48.039
<v Speaker 3>everybody because a lot of people are gonna fall for

929
01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:53.159
<v Speaker 3>all this deception and nonsense, right, But to those in

930
01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:55.520
<v Speaker 3>the church it will be obvious because they will know

931
01:09:56.199 --> 01:10:00.439
<v Speaker 3>these pretty clear signs. And this this book goes into

932
01:10:00.560 --> 01:10:03.600
<v Speaker 3>mentioning you know all of what the church fathers speak

933
01:10:03.640 --> 01:10:09.800
<v Speaker 3>of as the key signs. You know, things like there

934
01:10:09.840 --> 01:10:12.840
<v Speaker 3>will be a one world religion that will be enforced.

935
01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:15.880
<v Speaker 3>It will be the same as the ancient pagan mystery religions.

936
01:10:15.880 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 3>There will be a world government, there will be an

937
01:10:18.680 --> 01:10:22.800
<v Speaker 3>Antichrist figure. There will be a false religion that is promoted,

938
01:10:23.319 --> 01:10:25.399
<v Speaker 3>and then the anti Christ casts that off and says,

939
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 3>you have to worship me now, hahaha, tricked you that

940
01:10:29.199 --> 01:10:32.359
<v Speaker 3>false religion wasn't the real deal. It worshiped me, or

941
01:10:32.560 --> 01:10:38.359
<v Speaker 3>you know, you can't do anything a mass apostasy. The

942
01:10:38.479 --> 01:10:44.279
<v Speaker 3>Church in whole apostatizes. And as you've heard me say

943
01:10:44.359 --> 01:10:48.319
<v Speaker 3>many times, the church fathers teach us you don't like this,

944
01:10:48.439 --> 01:10:51.199
<v Speaker 3>It's not my fault. It's what the church teaches, it's

945
01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:56.199
<v Speaker 3>what Paul teaches. And it is true. This will occur

946
01:10:56.439 --> 01:11:04.800
<v Speaker 3>whether you believe it or not. And that means that

947
01:11:04.960 --> 01:11:09.760
<v Speaker 3>you can't say that there are no more Jews. That's dumb. Now,

948
01:11:09.800 --> 01:11:12.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that that means that evangelical stuff's right.

949
01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:16.960
<v Speaker 3>It's not. John Hagen's not right. But it's also not right.

950
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.199
<v Speaker 3>What all these idiot LARPers and trads think that there

951
01:11:20.239 --> 01:11:22.720
<v Speaker 3>are no more Jews? That's dumb. That's not true. That's

952
01:11:22.760 --> 01:11:25.640
<v Speaker 3>not the patristic view. How can the church fathers say

953
01:11:25.680 --> 01:11:28.680
<v Speaker 3>that the Jews will be converted there's no more Jews, dune,

954
01:11:29.319 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 3>that's dumb. How can there be Jews being mentioned for

955
01:11:33.560 --> 01:11:36.359
<v Speaker 3>centuries in the church the Church's canons. If Jews don't

956
01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.119
<v Speaker 3>exist after the first that's ridiculous. What are you talking about?

957
01:11:39.359 --> 01:11:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Total ignorance of church history. I know what the Talmud says.

958
01:11:44.640 --> 01:11:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I know all that stuff, right, So don't bring me

959
01:11:46.720 --> 01:11:49.479
<v Speaker 3>that because it doesn't matter because the Church, the New

960
01:11:49.560 --> 01:11:54.760
<v Speaker 3>Testament teaches that eventually there will be a conversion. Now

961
01:11:55.560 --> 01:11:57.720
<v Speaker 3>I've changed my view on the Enoch and Elijah thing.

962
01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:00.159
<v Speaker 3>I used to think the Enoch and Elijah thing was

963
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.159
<v Speaker 3>purely in the first century, and it was I don't know,

964
01:12:02.279 --> 01:12:07.000
<v Speaker 3>some prophesying between thirty to seventy eighty and Israel, you

965
01:12:07.079 --> 01:12:10.720
<v Speaker 3>know who knows in the spirit of Enoch and Elijah

966
01:12:11.640 --> 01:12:14.760
<v Speaker 3>but I actually think that probably Enoch and Elijah will

967
01:12:14.760 --> 01:12:16.560
<v Speaker 3>have to return. I mean, that's the only way that

968
01:12:16.600 --> 01:12:18.720
<v Speaker 3>people would actually believe, right, I mean, it would take

969
01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:24.239
<v Speaker 3>something that wild for you know, people in Israel to convert.

970
01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:28.720
<v Speaker 3>That's my suspicion. But there's a whole chapter on Enoch

971
01:12:28.800 --> 01:12:32.640
<v Speaker 3>and Elijah here. Most of our saints think that that

972
01:12:32.680 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 3>would probably occur. Now, it does mention the attempt to

973
01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:46.199
<v Speaker 3>cease the liturgy. I would not jump on. I mean,

974
01:12:46.239 --> 01:12:48.640
<v Speaker 3>because all the world's liturgies haven't ceased, because I wouldn't

975
01:12:48.680 --> 01:12:50.800
<v Speaker 3>jump on Kurunka on all this stuff. Oh, it's the

976
01:12:50.880 --> 01:12:54.159
<v Speaker 3>end of the world because of Karunka. Not yet. I mean,

977
01:12:54.319 --> 01:12:56.560
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of other things that we haven't seen

978
01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:02.079
<v Speaker 3>yet that are going to be clear as the end

979
01:13:02.079 --> 01:13:03.960
<v Speaker 3>of the world. Okay, so let's we're not jumping to

980
01:13:04.079 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 3>end of the world yet. I mean, Karunka is fake

981
01:13:07.920 --> 01:13:12.359
<v Speaker 3>and hey, uh so, I mean is that really like

982
01:13:12.399 --> 01:13:16.800
<v Speaker 3>an End Times plague? Come on, no, it's not. That's crazy. Look,

983
01:13:16.840 --> 01:13:18.920
<v Speaker 3>the End Times plagues don't sound fake and gay, they

984
01:13:19.000 --> 01:13:25.680
<v Speaker 3>sound real. Right, So anyway, we're not going to do

985
01:13:25.720 --> 01:13:30.680
<v Speaker 3>a whole lecture on apostas. But I do recommend this treatise.

986
01:13:30.720 --> 01:13:34.760
<v Speaker 3>I think it's really good from Holy Transfiguration Monastery because

987
01:13:34.760 --> 01:13:37.279
<v Speaker 3>it's just it's just a collection of whether Church Father said.

988
01:13:37.279 --> 01:13:39.680
<v Speaker 3>That's all it is. It's not even it's not really

989
01:13:39.720 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 3>any speculations.

990
01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Going on in there.

991
01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.800
<v Speaker 3>But it's good because it mentions the importance of preterism. Okay,

992
01:13:49.880 --> 01:14:02.520
<v Speaker 3>so first let's look at Basil. Okay, So Athenacious Athanatius

993
01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:08.039
<v Speaker 3>has multiple texts where he speaks of the partial predist view.

994
01:14:09.720 --> 01:14:13.279
<v Speaker 3>And because I have read significant almost all of this volume,

995
01:14:13.680 --> 01:14:18.159
<v Speaker 3>or a large portion of this voey, I can tell you. Okay,

996
01:14:18.239 --> 01:14:22.920
<v Speaker 3>So on the Incarnation one twelve is applied to Christ

997
01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:28.319
<v Speaker 3>in the First Advent Daniel nine, as you've heard me explicating,

998
01:14:28.359 --> 01:14:31.479
<v Speaker 3>it is read of the First Advent, and on the

999
01:14:31.520 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 3>Incarnation thirty nine and forty. There is still a second

1000
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Advent to come, however, so he's not a full predteris.

1001
01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:44.000
<v Speaker 3>On the Incarnation one fifty six, Letter sixty, section seven

1002
01:14:44.640 --> 01:14:51.880
<v Speaker 3>speaks of preterism in seventy eighty. I can't even read

1003
01:14:51.960 --> 01:14:57.840
<v Speaker 3>my notes. Something old testament fulfilled festal Letter four four

1004
01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:03.279
<v Speaker 3>and five, Letter one seven and eight speaks of seventy eighty.

1005
01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:06.800
<v Speaker 3>Now those are just the ones I've noticed. There's more.

1006
01:15:07.279 --> 01:15:14.000
<v Speaker 3>There's more. So there are some prederist texts and Athanasius

1007
01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:19.720
<v Speaker 3>if you want to write those downs Catechetical Lectures of

1008
01:15:19.800 --> 01:15:22.239
<v Speaker 3>Saint Cyril of Jerusalem that I mentioned, which I read

1009
01:15:22.279 --> 01:15:26.960
<v Speaker 3>all these ten years ago. I took copious notes on

1010
01:15:27.239 --> 01:15:38.039
<v Speaker 3>the catechetical lectures. Where's the where's the prederist tips? I've

1011
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.800
<v Speaker 3>got a a note for thee here it is. He

1012
01:15:42.119 --> 01:15:48.399
<v Speaker 3>interestingly does what I do with Isaiah. So if you

1013
01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:55.600
<v Speaker 3>read Catechetical Lectures sixteen, eighteen, and nineteen, that is applied

1014
01:15:55.640 --> 01:16:06.880
<v Speaker 3>to the First Advent seventy eight Isaiah one eight. By

1015
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:08.479
<v Speaker 3>the way, you can just look these up really quickly.

1016
01:16:18.039 --> 01:16:20.039
<v Speaker 3>They're all online New Advent. You can look up the

1017
01:16:20.079 --> 01:16:20.960
<v Speaker 3>catechetical lectures.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's at least one from Saint Cyril. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>one of the best, of course, chrystalstom on Matthew Matthew

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four Homily fifty seventy five on Matthew twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>seventy a d. He says, is the immediate context the

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<v Speaker 3>Wars of Jerusalem. And he says, but that is a

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<v Speaker 3>type of the end of the world again. Saint John

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<v Speaker 3>Chrystals homily is seventy five on Matthew twenty four. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole homily is all about preterism. Do you know how

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<v Speaker 3>many people I've had telling me, George, uh epistol? Is

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<v Speaker 3>it that I already mentioned the pistol? Yeah? I mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>the pistol of Barnabas, didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Eusebius the famous Church history Eusebius Chapter seven, Book three,

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<v Speaker 3>Chapter seven, the Predictions of Christ. Well, guess what abomination

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<v Speaker 3>of desolation? Joe Cephas chapter eight signs seventy eighty destruction

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<v Speaker 3>of the temple. Now there is one that I remember something.

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01:17:56.960 --> 01:18:02.680
<v Speaker 3>John Damascus mentions it somewhere anyway, But if you go

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<v Speaker 3>back and listen to my lectures in Johnamascus on the

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01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:10.319
<v Speaker 3>exposition orthdox Faith, I mentioned it in those lectures. Now

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<v Speaker 3>that's just ones that I've noticed. There's more, But man,

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<v Speaker 3>the Eastern fathers aren't a lot more. Now, Hippolytiss is

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01:18:25.640 --> 01:18:28.560
<v Speaker 3>a Latin father right now, but typically the Eastern Fathers

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01:18:28.560 --> 01:18:32.079
<v Speaker 3>are clearer on this. Now, just as an interesting side note,

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<v Speaker 3>because the Trads are almost never prediced. I don't know why,

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01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:42.800
<v Speaker 3>but the Trads are like they don't get this. But

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<v Speaker 3>in the old Saint Andrew missile from my trid days. Yeah,

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01:18:48.720 --> 01:18:51.079
<v Speaker 3>see see here's proof trad See how warned this is.

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01:18:51.199 --> 01:18:54.359
<v Speaker 3>It's actually worn out. The gold leaf leafing is all

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<v Speaker 3>worn out because I actually did take my tradism seriously

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01:18:57.640 --> 01:18:59.840
<v Speaker 3>and I actually did go to the Latin mass for

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01:18:59.920 --> 01:19:03.000
<v Speaker 3>me many years. It's not fake, it's all it's all true.

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01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:11.720
<v Speaker 3>I made up. There is a lengthy note on criticism.

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01:19:13.159 --> 01:19:15.880
<v Speaker 3>Where is it? I remember it from my trid base.

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01:19:16.760 --> 01:19:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Got it marked somewhere. I think it's one of the

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01:19:21.760 --> 01:19:25.399
<v Speaker 3>readings for like Easter or something. Here it is, I

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01:19:25.479 --> 01:19:29.920
<v Speaker 3>found it. So in the traditional Latin missile the twenty

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01:19:30.000 --> 01:19:38.319
<v Speaker 3>fourth and last Sunday after Pentecost. Your missile notes.

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<v Speaker 2>This.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, this text is so small. I can't even read it.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at this text.

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<v Speaker 5>It's when do you read that? Look at that anyway?

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01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:53.319
<v Speaker 5>Here you can see I'm not making it up. If

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01:19:53.359 --> 01:19:56.399
<v Speaker 5>you want to screenshot that and read it later.

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<v Speaker 3>Getting in that HD ten eighty p. Says the Assyrians

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<v Speaker 3>have destroyed Samaria and the Chaldeans have laid waste to Jerusalem,

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<v Speaker 3>but all this desolation will be repaired by the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 3>When he comes. Micah goes on to foretell that Christ

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<v Speaker 3>will be born in Bethlehem and his kingdom, that of

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<v Speaker 3>the heavenly Jerusalem, will have no end. The prophets naem

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01:20:23.319 --> 01:20:29.960
<v Speaker 3>habakk zephy Andiah, at Hagai, Zachariah, and Malachi, whose books

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<v Speaker 3>are read in the Divine Office the same week, their

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<v Speaker 3>testimony to that of Micah. In Our Lord's first words

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<v Speaker 3>in Today's Gospel, he quotes Daniel's prophecy of the total

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<v Speaker 3>and final ruin of the Temple at Jerusalem and of

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<v Speaker 3>the Jewish nation at the hands of the Roman army,

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<v Speaker 3>this abomination of desolation being incurred by the people of

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<v Speaker 3>Israel for rejecting Christ. As a matter of fact, this

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01:20:59.239 --> 01:21:02.600
<v Speaker 3>prediction was fulfill some years after the Lord's death, exactly

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<v Speaker 3>in seventy eighty. This destruction of the temple is a

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01:21:06.279 --> 01:21:10.399
<v Speaker 3>type of the end of the world, and then it

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<v Speaker 3>goes on to it. Basically, to repeat this, I had

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<v Speaker 3>to stand up because I can barely read this tiny,

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01:21:14.880 --> 01:21:18.319
<v Speaker 3>tiny print. So there you go. Even the Latin missile

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01:21:19.199 --> 01:21:28.520
<v Speaker 3>teaches preterism. Go che on that tread. All right. So

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01:21:31.039 --> 01:21:33.920
<v Speaker 3>now we brought this up many times, but I always

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01:21:33.960 --> 01:21:35.800
<v Speaker 3>have to bring it up. People say, ooh a little.

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01:21:35.840 --> 01:21:37.760
<v Speaker 3>Most likes to read on this. So if you want

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01:21:37.800 --> 01:21:43.199
<v Speaker 3>an introduction book to this topic, I would say this

1087
01:21:43.359 --> 01:21:47.039
<v Speaker 3>is a good one. Great tribulation by David Chiltern. Children

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01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:49.800
<v Speaker 3>came close to Orthodoxy in his latter days. I don't

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01:21:49.800 --> 01:21:52.880
<v Speaker 3>think he ever officially converted. And there is a new

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01:21:52.960 --> 01:21:55.439
<v Speaker 3>one out I haven't read. I think Lightheart has a

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01:21:55.520 --> 01:21:58.039
<v Speaker 3>commentary on the Apocalypse that's good. I haven't read it,

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01:21:58.079 --> 01:22:00.560
<v Speaker 3>so I'm not going to recommend it. But this is

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01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:02.399
<v Speaker 3>a classic. So if you can get your hands on

1094
01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:06.840
<v Speaker 3>David Chilton's Day's a Vengeance, they're both good. And also

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01:22:07.119 --> 01:22:10.239
<v Speaker 3>the Hermaeutic at work here that is based on the

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01:22:10.640 --> 01:22:17.960
<v Speaker 3>Church Fathers. If there was one good book on hermautics,

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<v Speaker 3>I would recommend it from an Orthodox perspective. But I

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01:22:21.199 --> 01:22:23.359
<v Speaker 3>mean you could read Maximus or something like that, because

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01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:25.239
<v Speaker 3>he'll tell you the you know, the four layers of

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01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:27.600
<v Speaker 3>the scripture. That's pretty common by the late Middle Ages.

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01:22:27.640 --> 01:22:30.600
<v Speaker 3>All the East and West have the four senses of scripture.

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01:22:31.119 --> 01:22:33.560
<v Speaker 3>But if you are coming from a Protestant mindset, maybe

1103
01:22:33.600 --> 01:22:38.560
<v Speaker 3>you want a more biblical introduction to the topic of hermaeutics.

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01:22:38.760 --> 01:22:43.039
<v Speaker 3>James Jordan basically borrowed the Church Father's hermanudic and put

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01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:47.159
<v Speaker 3>it into a book. Of course, you can skip his

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01:22:47.399 --> 01:22:52.119
<v Speaker 3>Protestant stuff and just go right into Orthodoxy. But Through

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01:22:52.159 --> 01:22:53.960
<v Speaker 3>New Eyes is a good book. It is a good

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01:22:55.439 --> 01:23:02.439
<v Speaker 3>spirit of the Patristic hermeneutic. He's kind of a quasi Anglican,

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01:23:02.479 --> 01:23:07.560
<v Speaker 3>I guess now nowadays anyway, So those are good intro

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01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:10.680
<v Speaker 3>level stuff. There's there's more, obviously could be said, but

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01:23:12.960 --> 01:23:15.439
<v Speaker 3>and there's many more Church Father's texts on preterism too.

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01:23:15.479 --> 01:23:19.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just giving you a sample. How long have we gone,

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01:23:20.359 --> 01:23:23.359
<v Speaker 3>hour and a half. It's pretty good. So a few

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<v Speaker 3>last points on Antichrist. I mean, so my view, yes,

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01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:31.680
<v Speaker 3>I think that what we saw occur in these patterns

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01:23:31.720 --> 01:23:37.960
<v Speaker 3>of people. Okay, Pharaoh type of Antichrist, Judas type of Antichrist,

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01:23:41.319 --> 01:23:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Pole of me third Maccabees type of Antichrist. Antiochus, Epiphanies

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01:23:44.880 --> 01:23:49.279
<v Speaker 3>type of Antichrist. Nebuchinese are type of Antichrist, because Neger

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01:23:49.319 --> 01:23:50.960
<v Speaker 3>sets with this giant idol and says you have to

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<v Speaker 3>worship it or you die. Nero. If you read Gentry's

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01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:01.319
<v Speaker 3>book before Jerusalem fell, his THHD thesis. Think proves Nero

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01:24:01.520 --> 01:24:07.119
<v Speaker 3>is the Antichrist of the first century. That's what the

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01:24:07.159 --> 01:24:10.560
<v Speaker 3>Book of the Apocalypse is immediate context is. That's why

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01:24:10.640 --> 01:24:12.399
<v Speaker 3>John says at the beginning of the Apocalypse that what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm writing to the seven churches of Asian mine are

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01:24:14.680 --> 01:24:18.479
<v Speaker 3>they are going to experience quickly. So, yeah, there's a

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01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:36.600
<v Speaker 3>full there's a final fulfillment. Apocalypse nineteen all right, the

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<v Speaker 3>Great White Throne, Judgment, the return of Christ, the millennial Rain,

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01:24:44.600 --> 01:24:48.119
<v Speaker 3>the millennial reign is something that began first Advent. It's

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<v Speaker 3>not a thousand years of eating giant grapes and moving palsign.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a spiritual kingdom that was established. That is the Church.

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<v Speaker 3>The Church is a millennial rain. Those who are baptized

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01:25:00.159 --> 01:25:05.359
<v Speaker 3>participate in the first Resurrection, and then the new heavens

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01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:08.000
<v Speaker 3>and the New Earth. In the Orthodox view, is the

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01:25:08.119 --> 01:25:13.239
<v Speaker 3>renovation of this world. This universe, right, this universe is renovated,

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01:25:13.319 --> 01:25:16.600
<v Speaker 3>it's transfigured. When Christ became incarnate. The purpose of that

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<v Speaker 3>was to restore what Adam had lost. This in the

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<v Speaker 3>Patristic teaching is what's called the recapitulation. Now this unfortunately,

1139
01:25:23.800 --> 01:25:26.199
<v Speaker 3>this doctrine is lost in the West after the time

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01:25:26.239 --> 01:25:30.640
<v Speaker 3>of Augustine. Nobody knows has any idea what recapitulation is.

1141
01:25:31.560 --> 01:25:34.960
<v Speaker 3>It is fundamental, however, to Orthodox theology from here Anas

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<v Speaker 3>all the way up through to John Damascus, there is

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<v Speaker 3>a recapitulation where Christ restores what Adam lost, and that

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01:25:42.800 --> 01:25:47.199
<v Speaker 3>being the nature. Nature is restored. It doesn't mean everybody saved, though,

1145
01:25:47.279 --> 01:25:51.640
<v Speaker 3>because the way that you in hypostatize nature and utilize

1146
01:25:52.039 --> 01:25:54.640
<v Speaker 3>your will is going to determine whether it's ever ill

1147
01:25:54.720 --> 01:25:57.920
<v Speaker 3>being or ever well being in the escaton. That's basic

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<v Speaker 3>Saint Maximums teaching right there. But the nature itself is

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01:26:02.159 --> 01:26:04.720
<v Speaker 3>going to be restored, and that's why all men are resurrected.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why even the wicked are resurrected because of Christ

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01:26:07.399 --> 01:26:12.560
<v Speaker 3>restoring their nature. But having your nature restored does not

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01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:17.359
<v Speaker 3>mean that you get an automatically pleasurable experience of the escoton. Right,

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01:26:18.159 --> 01:26:21.439
<v Speaker 3>nature can be restored, but the experience of nature depends

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01:26:21.479 --> 01:26:23.960
<v Speaker 3>on the tropos, the mode in which nature exists, which

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01:26:24.039 --> 01:26:27.800
<v Speaker 3>is in the mode of persons. So individual hypostaces will

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<v Speaker 3>have a different experience depending upon how they utilize their

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01:26:33.119 --> 01:26:36.680
<v Speaker 3>natural will for virtue or for vice. According to Saint

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01:26:36.720 --> 01:26:42.039
<v Speaker 3>Maxims and by extension, according to Jonan Maskins, who follows

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01:26:42.119 --> 01:26:45.359
<v Speaker 3>Saint Maximus to the tea, now will there be a

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01:26:45.399 --> 01:26:47.640
<v Speaker 3>great tribulation and all that? Yeah, I think so. I think.

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01:26:47.840 --> 01:26:49.760
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of these things. And now to

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01:26:49.920 --> 01:26:53.479
<v Speaker 3>what degree every element of the Apocalypse is mirrored at

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01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:56.880
<v Speaker 3>the end of time. I don't know. Anybody who tells

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01:26:56.920 --> 01:26:59.479
<v Speaker 3>you they know everything about that is lying to you,

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01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:02.720
<v Speaker 3>and it's I'm kind of John Hage Konyent. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe if God grants me the grace in thirty years,

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01:27:06.239 --> 01:27:08.399
<v Speaker 3>if I'm still alive, maybe then I'll know more about that.

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01:27:08.560 --> 01:27:11.840
<v Speaker 3>But I don't pretend to know. And anybody who claims

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<v Speaker 3>to know all the mysteries of scripture, especially in regard

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01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:16.039
<v Speaker 3>to the Apocalypse, which is, you know, one of the

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01:27:16.079 --> 01:27:22.640
<v Speaker 3>most difficult books, along with the other apocalypsees Zachariah Ezekiel.

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<v Speaker 3>They're very difficult books. So we have to tread lightly

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01:27:28.640 --> 01:27:30.760
<v Speaker 3>and we have to understand that from the Orthodox perspective,

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01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:34.960
<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of factors that will go into how

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01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.239
<v Speaker 3>we interpret and understand these texts, which first of all,

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01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:42.640
<v Speaker 3>can't be done purely by studying and reading books. So

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01:27:42.760 --> 01:27:48.279
<v Speaker 3>the news has to be cleansed through repentance, through good works,

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01:27:48.279 --> 01:27:53.319
<v Speaker 3>aesthetic practice, prayer, liturgy. Then we grow in our understanding

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01:27:53.359 --> 01:27:57.520
<v Speaker 3>of these things by God's grace and so and then

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01:27:57.560 --> 01:28:00.239
<v Speaker 3>it's not just us reading right, it's our experience. It's

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01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:02.520
<v Speaker 3>in the liturgy where God teaches us. In the liturgy,

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01:28:02.840 --> 01:28:04.960
<v Speaker 3>we read the lives of the saints, we get taught there.

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01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:08.720
<v Speaker 3>We look at the icons, we read the icons and

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01:28:08.800 --> 01:28:12.560
<v Speaker 3>they teach us as well. We read the Bible, it

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01:28:12.680 --> 01:28:17.239
<v Speaker 3>teaches us. So there's this symbiotic relationship between all of

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01:28:17.359 --> 01:28:19.800
<v Speaker 3>these things. We read, the church fathers, they teach us.

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01:28:20.399 --> 01:28:23.279
<v Speaker 3>All of these things go into right. So then every

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01:28:23.359 --> 01:28:24.960
<v Speaker 3>time we come back to read the Bible, we have

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<v Speaker 3>an even greater, even broader, better perspective by being immersed

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01:28:30.239 --> 01:28:34.720
<v Speaker 3>in the totality of this experience of the church's life.

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01:28:35.359 --> 01:28:37.920
<v Speaker 3>So all those things go into it. Right. You can't

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01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:40.720
<v Speaker 3>like separate, Well, I just want my Bible. I'm just

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01:28:40.760 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Google read my Bible in the corner and I'm gonna

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01:28:42.640 --> 01:28:46.439
<v Speaker 3>figure all this stuff out. No, that's idiotic. It's not that.

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01:28:46.640 --> 01:28:48.399
<v Speaker 3>It's not a book that's meant for you to go

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01:28:48.640 --> 01:28:50.520
<v Speaker 3>sit in the corner and figure it all out. By yourself.

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01:28:50.520 --> 01:28:53.039
<v Speaker 3>It's not an algorithm that you decode. It has to

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01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:57.479
<v Speaker 3>be a lived thing, right, And I don't care who

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01:28:57.520 --> 01:29:02.479
<v Speaker 3>you are or how much you've read, Like The Apocalypse

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01:29:02.560 --> 01:29:07.199
<v Speaker 3>is a difficult book. And I don't even think that

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01:29:07.399 --> 01:29:12.560
<v Speaker 3>anybody's gonna understand all these mysteries until well, ultimately, not

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01:29:12.680 --> 01:29:15.920
<v Speaker 3>until the Escuton obviously, but as we get closer to

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01:29:16.079 --> 01:29:20.520
<v Speaker 3>the time of these final final things, then yeah, God

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01:29:20.520 --> 01:29:23.000
<v Speaker 3>will grant more understanding to you know, the saints, to

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01:29:23.039 --> 01:29:26.119
<v Speaker 3>the Alders, these kinds of people in the church, you know,

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01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:30.000
<v Speaker 3>people who are following him. He will grant the understanding

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01:29:30.000 --> 01:29:35.840
<v Speaker 3>of those things. But as Paul says, let us strive

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01:29:36.079 --> 01:29:41.520
<v Speaker 3>to eat meat and not to only feed on milk. Right,

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01:29:41.600 --> 01:29:45.479
<v Speaker 3>what does Hebrews say? You should be taking strong doctrine

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01:29:45.920 --> 01:29:50.439
<v Speaker 3>and meat, not just staying fixated on the milk the

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01:29:50.520 --> 01:29:53.560
<v Speaker 3>baby stuff. So we are supposed to get into I mean,

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01:29:53.600 --> 01:29:55.920
<v Speaker 3>they're here for a reason, all right, and get sick

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01:29:55.920 --> 01:29:57.960
<v Speaker 3>of the people who are luck well, we won't read

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01:29:58.000 --> 01:30:00.399
<v Speaker 3>that stuff in our church. Well, that's because you're idiot,

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01:30:00.680 --> 01:30:03.840
<v Speaker 3>the Bible says. Scripture says, blessed are those who read

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01:30:03.880 --> 01:30:06.680
<v Speaker 3>the Apocalypse. Why would you not want a blessing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's idiotic, stupid anyway. So that's a good introduction

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<v Speaker 3>to what we want to caution against and the direction

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<v Speaker 3>that we want to go to understand these very difficult things.

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<v Speaker 3>And hopefully this can be a good introduction for the

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<v Speaker 3>future questions of eschatology, Bible, prophecy, this kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 3>that there's so much sensationalism, so much idiocy, so many

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<v Speaker 3>con men, so much stupid crap. And look, I was

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<v Speaker 3>raised in the evangelical gift you stuff, so I'm trying

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<v Speaker 3>to save you from having to go through a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of nonsense. Okay, I was a dispensationalist. I thought when

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<v Speaker 3>I was nineteen, I'm on a prophecy study Bible. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought John Hagey was right. So I had to go

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<v Speaker 3>through all this stupid stuff. And I'm just trying to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that you don't have to. Okay, I went

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<v Speaker 3>through all this crap for you. Man, If you want

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<v Speaker 3>to be hard headed and go through all that stupid stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>well good luck with have fun, because it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be a nightmare. But this is much better. This is

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<v Speaker 3>the mature, traditional historic approach anyway. So hopefully this has

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<v Speaker 3>this is we want a sober approach that what I'm

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<v Speaker 3>trying to do, right, We want to be sober on

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<v Speaker 3>the one hand, but not fall into the liberal nonsense

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<v Speaker 3>on the other hand, of like denying the inspiration and

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<v Speaker 3>all this kind of stuff. Right, just think about Jesus's day.

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<v Speaker 3>Who are the two dialectical opposite goophises that Jesus is

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<v Speaker 3>always having to interact with the scribes and the Pharisees.

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<v Speaker 3>And who are the scribes, the Sadducees the liberals? Remember

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<v Speaker 3>how it says that that the Sadducees deny resurrection, that

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<v Speaker 3>deny miracles and the existence of angels. And Jesus says

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<v Speaker 3>that they're idiots and they are hard hearted and they

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<v Speaker 3>have no faith, that they don't believe the scriptures. Me

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<v Speaker 3>constantly says that to them, they're the liberals. And who

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<v Speaker 3>are the Pharisees, the rigorous super super I'm holier than

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<v Speaker 3>now and making up all these laws that aren't even

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<v Speaker 3>in the actual revelation. Right, And guess what, we still

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<v Speaker 3>have these same two extremes in our day. We have

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<v Speaker 3>the liberals. Do whatever you want. There's no miracles religion

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<v Speaker 3>as a symbol. It's just moral tales or whatever, and

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah, and then you've got rigorous on the

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<v Speaker 3>other the extremist Pharisees. And by the way, who got

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<v Speaker 3>the worst condemnation, the rigorous. Now, I'm not telling you

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<v Speaker 3>to be a liberal. I'm just saying that how we

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<v Speaker 3>strike that balance is very important because Jesus' harshest condemnations

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<v Speaker 3>are for the Pharisees, even above the sagescees. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not telling you to be a liberal at all. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe Jesus is very clear about the inspiration of

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<v Speaker 3>the text, the inherancy of the text. Jesus has a

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<v Speaker 3>strong view of in and inspiration, and he pronounces a

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<v Speaker 3>blessing for those who read the Old Testament. He says,

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<v Speaker 3>you're like a treasure hunter who brings treasure out of

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<v Speaker 3>old into the New if you understand and study the

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<v Speaker 3>Old Testament. He says that not one jot or tittle

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<v Speaker 3>of the Old Testament is wrong or will fail. So

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<v Speaker 3>we should get our doctrine of inspiration from Christ and

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<v Speaker 3>from the Church fathers. And by the way, the Church

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<v Speaker 3>fathers teach inernancy. There might be debate between textual traditions

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<v Speaker 3>like origin and Jerome to Patristic era textual critics. They

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<v Speaker 3>might have disputed different copies, but Jerome has some of

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<v Speaker 3>the strongest statements on inerrancy. If you look at what

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<v Speaker 3>he says on the Psalms. Jerome goes so far as

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<v Speaker 3>to say that even the introductions to the Psalms, even

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<v Speaker 3>the sections of the songs have letters like Psalm one

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<v Speaker 3>Drum says, even those are inspired. He says, the Holy

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<v Speaker 3>Spirit put those there. So this idea that, oh, the

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<v Speaker 3>Church fathers they didn't teach you inerancy. I can be

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<v Speaker 3>liberal if I become worthoo it. No you can't, No,

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<v Speaker 3>you can't. Total nonsense. I could give you fifty quotes

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<v Speaker 3>from the Church Fathers on the inerancy, inspiration, and authority

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<v Speaker 3>of Scripture. Total misunderstanding. And by the way, smart Protestants

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<v Speaker 3>can run circles around Catholics and dumb Orthodox who think

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<v Speaker 3>that the Church Fathers don't teach inspiration and inernancy. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>let's read some of the super chats, so I hope

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<v Speaker 3>this is helpful, just to give a Patristic balanced traditional interpretation.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the time of the resurrection, I mean technically

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<v Speaker 3>right now, it's like the next day, but today was

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<v Speaker 3>erection Sunday. I hope everybody had a good pasca, even

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<v Speaker 3>though it's a corunka pasca, which is all very bizarre.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we want to understand that let the Bible

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<v Speaker 3>inform our view of the world. Don't take headlines and

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<v Speaker 3>read them into the Bible. That's what I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>caution against. You see, does that mean we can't look

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<v Speaker 3>at the where is my note? I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 3>think about some of the examples, the rise of occultism, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>brain links, abration, right, nano dots, r f I D, transhumanism, ecumenism,

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<v Speaker 3>Internet of Things, five GA, a global economy, universal basic income,

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<v Speaker 3>end of the family. Are these signs of the time? Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>They are now. A lot of these evils in different

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<v Speaker 3>forms have been around, so I wouldn't immediately say that, Well,

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<v Speaker 3>we're definitely in the final, final end times. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of prophecies that still have to be fulfilled. So

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<v Speaker 3>we know the end of the world's not coming tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 3>but regardless, it could be could be the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the world. I don't know. I don't claim to know anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>So we had to be wise on how we approach

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<v Speaker 3>these things. I would say that if things keep getting

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<v Speaker 3>crazier and crazier, yeah, maybe it is. Maybe we are

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<v Speaker 3>at the end of but we'll know we don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to worry about that. So Jordan Graves five dollars. CHRISTI

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<v Speaker 3>is a new fan here. Thank you for all are

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<v Speaker 3>for articularly orthan and filosity in danger moment. Thank you much,

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<v Speaker 3>appreciate it. Glad you're here. Welcome. Remember the archives, there

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<v Speaker 3>is a vast, vast nine hundred videos. Now some of

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<v Speaker 3>them are goofy, but the majority of the videos are theology, philosophy,

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<v Speaker 3>church fathers, debates with atheists, etcetera, etcetera. If you're interested

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<v Speaker 3>in these topics, click down to the theology section or

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<v Speaker 3>to the traditional philosophy and metaphysics playlists on the main page.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll find a lot there. We also have the global

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<v Speaker 3>elite book series Irish Sailor ninety one five dollars. Plot

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<v Speaker 3>twist Q reveals himself as a political leader. Boomers over,

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<v Speaker 3>We're elected to prisoner. Yeah, that's funny. I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 3>this is a that's not gonna happen, but that's funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Joeling K twenty five dollars. Thank you, Joline much appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Big supporter a long time Jason also supporter shout out

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<v Speaker 3>Jason Ray five dollars, Thank you Jay, Thank you Jason

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<v Speaker 3>much appreciate it. Irish sailor again he says, have to

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<v Speaker 3>sleep for work. Thank you for all that you do. Meetia,

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<v Speaker 3>Orthodox theology and the piece of family feet together Christ

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<v Speaker 3>He's risen indeed. Cody Pempton one Canadian, Thank you, Cody,

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<v Speaker 3>Cody Pemberton, two Canadian Thank you, Cody, Thank you, Cody.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, are demons archetypes of chaos like reverse logi. No,

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<v Speaker 3>because logi or uncreated energies that are the patterns and

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<v Speaker 3>archetypes of all things that are created. So angels are

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<v Speaker 3>like all creation. They possess a created nature. The logi

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<v Speaker 3>are not identical to created natures or essences. The logie

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<v Speaker 3>are uncreated, but creative beings have created natures and created essences.

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<v Speaker 3>So angels are beings that are. They have a angelic nature,

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<v Speaker 3>and they also have an individual hypostasis, each one of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Basil's very clear about this in his thirty eighth letter,

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<v Speaker 3>where he describes nature in person as distinct and the

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<v Speaker 3>hyposthetic properties, and he also explains angels as having an

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<v Speaker 3>angelic nature and each individual hypostasis so of their own angels.

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<v Speaker 3>So demons are angels that are created beings that have fallen,

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<v Speaker 3>and so they're not merely archetypes, but they're actually personal

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<v Speaker 3>demonic beings. Their nature is still good, but they have

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<v Speaker 3>confirmed themselves in evil. We don't explain exactly understand exactly

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<v Speaker 3>how it all works in the angelic realm, but that's

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<v Speaker 3>what has been revealed to us about the good angels

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<v Speaker 3>and the fallen angels. Mark David Chapman, Wow, thank you?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that Jared Leto has Mark David Chapman or the

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<v Speaker 3>actual Mark David Chapman who faked his death perhaps and

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<v Speaker 3>is sending me a hundred bucks? Well, much appreciated, whoever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. I'm joking it's not. I don't think this

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<v Speaker 3>is Jared Leedo, but if it is, thank you, Jared.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope you enjoy your Laurel Canyon pad. Much appreciated

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<v Speaker 3>for that hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Fitzgibbon for four ninety nine, He says, here's my

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<v Speaker 3>trump bucks. Yes, actually a couple of people did send

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<v Speaker 3>me trump bucks. They didn't send me their whole trump

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<v Speaker 3>buck check, but they did send me some trump Bucks,

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<v Speaker 3>so I appreciate people who sent trump Bucks. I was

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<v Speaker 3>actually joking, but thank you guys for sending the trump Bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Much appreciate it. And Kevin has sent his and by

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<v Speaker 3>the way, shout out to Tiffany fitz Henry. You guys

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<v Speaker 3>are probably familiar with her. She's a pretty well known

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<v Speaker 3>YouTuber and tweeter. She has a very large Twitter following,

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<v Speaker 3>and she gave me a huge shout out and recommend

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<v Speaker 3>that everybody follow on my Twitter today. I think she

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<v Speaker 3>sent me almost a thousand followers on Twitter today, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I've ever gained a thousand Twitter followers

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<v Speaker 3>in one day, so that was pretty awesome. So thank

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<v Speaker 3>you to her. Everybody be sure and follow Tiffany fitz

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<v Speaker 3>Henry if you go to my Twitter. I promoted her

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<v Speaker 3>today as well, so be sure and follow her back

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<v Speaker 3>and hopefully we can have some good chats in the

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<v Speaker 3>future with her about esoteric Hollywood. She is also a

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<v Speaker 3>right exposer of Esselturk Hollywood topics as well Dusty Dustin

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<v Speaker 3>and Neely five Dollars. Christ has Risen, He has Risen. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 3>Zachariah harp twenty five bucks. Thank you, he says, God

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<v Speaker 3>speed and many things. Awesome, dude, thank you much appreciate.

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<v Speaker 3>Hopefully we have a balanced approach to eschatology and hermeneutics

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<v Speaker 3>from an orthodox biblical perspective. I hope everybody enjoyed the stream. Again,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you to Mark David Chapman, my assassination, bro there

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<v Speaker 3>for such a fat super chat. That was really generous

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<v Speaker 3>of you. Much appreciated. And I think that's everything. That's

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<v Speaker 3>all I can think of, covered all the books I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to. Yeah, God bless everybody, have a good night.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, the resurrection, right, I mean, that

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<v Speaker 3>was the whole point of this. Somebody was getting mad

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<v Speaker 3>at me the beginning of the stream. Why are you

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<v Speaker 3>talking about this? So you bitched about nothing?

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<v Speaker 1>Dude.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a great string. We had a sober discussion

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<v Speaker 3>of a topic that everybody's getting overly sensational about. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>God bless her matter. Have a good night.
