WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.839 You see something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:24.199 What what's gonna happen? What? 3 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:28.000 What up? Everybody? We're gonna have a very merry Mary 4 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.559 Headless is magical mail bag I got with me, my 5 00:00:31.679 --> 00:00:37.000 co host Nick and special guests. Arrows up. Welcome everybody. 6 00:00:37.039 --> 00:00:38.960 How are you guys doing? 7 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:47.000 Thank you Merry Christmas, Headless Mary. I'm surprised you're so fussive. 8 00:00:47.479 --> 00:00:49.320 I have to be I have to be honest. 9 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:51.000 Yeah, so was. I actually saw that. 10 00:00:51.079 --> 00:00:54.320 I was like, oh, I had to remind Nick to 11 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:56.679 take out his uh his Christmas. 12 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:57.520 Yeah, crackhead tree. 13 00:00:58.520 --> 00:01:01.439 But you know that I told forgot to get like ornaments. 14 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:03.799 I was supposed to get orbibands, and I was like, yo, 15 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:05.760 I can't go on with this ship. So I literally 16 00:01:05.840 --> 00:01:07.519 unplugged it and threw it in the kitchen before the show, 17 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:08.959 and he's like, no, you gotta pull that ship out. 18 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:11.239 I was like fucking I was like, it's a Charlie 19 00:01:11.239 --> 00:01:12.159 Brown Christmas. 20 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:16.959 Tree, Charlie Brown Christmas perfect? 21 00:01:17.799 --> 00:01:19.400 Is it? Because it's so like skinny? 22 00:01:20.280 --> 00:01:20.480 Yeah? 23 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.480 I don't yeah, I don't think if you tell you 24 00:01:22.519 --> 00:01:24.040 honest with you, I was supposed to like push that 25 00:01:24.040 --> 00:01:26.719 ship down more too, Like I I really dropped the bowl. 26 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:28.319 I really didn't give a ship about puting the tree up. 27 00:01:28.359 --> 00:01:31.079 Honestly, my father, my father mailed it to me, so 28 00:01:31.120 --> 00:01:32.719 I was like, I guess I gotta put it up right. 29 00:01:33.599 --> 00:01:41.079 So next year, where's yours, arrows. 30 00:01:42.760 --> 00:01:47.159 I don't have a tree, never owned a tree. 31 00:01:47.480 --> 00:01:51.000 Gonna give you a little honeica bush. 32 00:01:51.359 --> 00:01:54.040 That's it, That's that's possible. 33 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:54.640 You can hang like. 34 00:01:57.239 --> 00:02:01.239 There, you go, make a capitalistic tree, get chipolotry. 35 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.920 Yeah, I know. 36 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.400 Next year, that's what I'll do. I'll say, yeah, I'll 37 00:02:08.400 --> 00:02:09.319 hang for that. 38 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:18.039 Well, today we're going with the sun theme. We didn't 39 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:25.560 negotiate this beforehand, but I'll go first. My symbol sol Invictus, 40 00:02:26.000 --> 00:02:30.199 also Helios, also Apollo, also all of these different sun 41 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:33.000 gods sort of all came together and they wanted to 42 00:02:33.039 --> 00:02:37.240 make at around the second century a d. Sol Invictus 43 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:42.800 the Unconquered Sun, the official head of the Roman patheon. 44 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:45.400 But it didn't work out that way and we got 45 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:49.560 a different head of the Roman patheon. But what's interesting 46 00:02:49.840 --> 00:02:55.240 is this mural of Sol Invictus. Sol Invictus is in 47 00:02:55.280 --> 00:02:59.240 the basement of the Vatican, and that's actually Jesus right there. 48 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:01.919 So what they were trying to do is merge these 49 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.879 two cults into one thing, and well it didn't work 50 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:09.960 out that way, as you can see. But really, the 51 00:03:10.000 --> 00:03:12.280 way you can tell if it's a Soul in Victis 52 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:16.360 painting is either if it has Mithras in there with 53 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.759 the bulls laying the bull because that's also Sole Invictus, 54 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.479 or it's got this guy with the four horses, right, 55 00:03:25.520 --> 00:03:28.319 and he's got this big halo with all of these 56 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:32.280 you know, bright kind of rays coming off of it 57 00:03:32.479 --> 00:03:36.919 a lot like the Statue of Liberty, right, and the 58 00:03:37.080 --> 00:03:42.000 Sole Invictus character is part of a cult ritual initiation 59 00:03:43.000 --> 00:03:48.439 that is very Thracian, very Thracian. So all of the 60 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:53.840 sort of Mithras slash Sole Invictis cult stuff is really 61 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:58.560 coming through Persia as this new cult sort of dynasty. 62 00:03:58.759 --> 00:04:03.080 The old cult dynasty the was the Elucidian Mystery Schools, 63 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:07.639 and so this new cult dynasty was Mithras. And you 64 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:11.360 even have some of the people from Elucidian Mystery Schools 65 00:04:11.879 --> 00:04:16.079 complaining that now all of the rights are from Mithras 66 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.959 and they're not actually from the Elucinian rights anymore. Now 67 00:04:20.000 --> 00:04:22.079 we still don't know what those rights are, but there 68 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:25.160 is complaints that the Mythris cult sort of took over 69 00:04:25.240 --> 00:04:29.639 everything at around this time period, around second century a d. 70 00:04:29.959 --> 00:04:35.040 So it's a really interesting thing because soln Victis is 71 00:04:35.279 --> 00:04:38.319 parallel with Jesus Christ, and they're both sort of on 72 00:04:38.360 --> 00:04:43.759 the rise. And then the Christians got serious. You've got 73 00:04:43.959 --> 00:04:47.279 Tertullian in the second century who says that the Mythris 74 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:54.480 cult is a vicious plagiarism of Christianity. Now got a second, 75 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:57.720 because we've got the archaeological evidence to show that there 76 00:04:57.800 --> 00:05:01.439 was nothing plagiarized about soul and victory this in this 77 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:05.560 sort of cult of the sun from Christianity. In fact, 78 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:08.680 it was quite the reverse. So when Tertullian is saying 79 00:05:09.680 --> 00:05:19.480 they're copying us, he's what I like to call he's accusing, accusing, accusing, right, 80 00:05:19.560 --> 00:05:22.519 So it's an admission while he's making the accusation. So 81 00:05:22.600 --> 00:05:27.480 it's an actuation. So that's what I got. Sol Invicti 82 00:05:27.680 --> 00:05:31.920 also sol invictus. That's the reason why we have Christmas, 83 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:34.680 so very sole invictus day. 84 00:05:35.040 --> 00:05:36.639 I dig that crestion on the head. 85 00:05:37.879 --> 00:05:44.439 Oh yeah, there's right. So this would be like Chronos, 86 00:05:44.879 --> 00:05:47.959 I think, because Chronos is at the at the end 87 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:51.399 of the mysteries. Always when you go through these mysteries, 88 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:54.480 you meet Kronos, and so all of these journeys of 89 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:56.560 Sol Invictus and all the rest of the stuff, you're 90 00:05:56.600 --> 00:05:58.839 not actually talking to him in the ceremony. This is 91 00:05:58.879 --> 00:06:01.199 supposed to get you in the frame of mind so 92 00:06:01.240 --> 00:06:03.360 that you can talk to Chronos. Now, what's interesting about 93 00:06:03.399 --> 00:06:08.279 that too, is all of these DMT trips, you're going 94 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:13.319 into this realm and you're talking with like an archetype 95 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:18.120 character of kind of the architect of the universe, right, 96 00:06:18.199 --> 00:06:23.199 which is a very Saturnian or Chronos type figure. And 97 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:27.240 people are seeing these machine elves, which you know, represent 98 00:06:27.360 --> 00:06:29.800 sort of like the back rooms of the universe, and 99 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:33.040 they're putting everything together behind the scenes. They're working on something, 100 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.439 and we kind of see them as this, you know, 101 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:42.319 separate dimensional entity. But they could have been having similar 102 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:45.199 events in their time period. Maybe they just saw it differently. 103 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:48.959 Maybe it was more of this grandfatherly figure as opposed 104 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:53.240 to whatever the machine elves are represented by. But you know, 105 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:58.199 they've got a lot of different representations. So what you got, Nick, 106 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:00.160 let me bring this one up there. 107 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:08.879 We go at the yacht in sun Disc that yeah, 108 00:07:09.040 --> 00:07:11.920 the Aton sun disc and it's you know, the sun 109 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:15.000 that has like rays in the end in hands. The 110 00:07:15.040 --> 00:07:18.120 attend sign is a plain solar circle whose raised end 111 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:23.000 in tiny hands. Those hands often clutch anks to the 112 00:07:23.000 --> 00:07:27.360 mouths of royal couple or people. Imagery of life transmitting 113 00:07:27.360 --> 00:07:30.879 straight from the sun. The met the one of the 114 00:07:30.920 --> 00:07:35.120 met notes exactly that this is Aten, a solar disc. 115 00:07:34.959 --> 00:07:37.639 With raised ending in small human hands. 116 00:07:38.959 --> 00:07:41.519 When and where it appears, you see it in the 117 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:45.720 reign of Akin Naton around thirteen fifty three to thirteen 118 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:46.680 thirty six BCE. 119 00:07:48.279 --> 00:07:48.839 This form. 120 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:52.839 The form shows up on Alter's two wolves, boundary cliffs, 121 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:57.519 temple blocks, and house shruns. The famous house altar type 122 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.040 that you'd see you can find in the Berlin Neuez 123 00:08:01.199 --> 00:08:06.079 Museum shows Acunatin, Nepher Titi and their daughters beneath the 124 00:08:06.199 --> 00:08:10.879 rays which offer ax to the parents. Then you can 125 00:08:11.199 --> 00:08:17.360 see it in any uh Amarna boundary stella. Acunaton's cliff 126 00:08:18.000 --> 00:08:22.879 cut proclamations found uh found the new sacred city Anon 127 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:31.519 and repeatedly invoked oughten. The The Armarna Project lays out 128 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.960 the stella and the dates, and they have the wherever 129 00:08:35.919 --> 00:08:38.759 and then there's in the Met Museum. The Met preserves 130 00:08:38.759 --> 00:08:43.600 both Atten raided scenes and blocks with Aten's cartouches on it, 131 00:08:44.000 --> 00:08:46.919 and the British Museum holds uh a piece of a 132 00:08:47.080 --> 00:08:49.559 armno relief that carries. 133 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:53.919 Like the same Look what it is meant now? Who knows? 134 00:08:53.960 --> 00:08:58.840 But ocntons the theology. Theology made the visible sun the 135 00:08:58.840 --> 00:09:02.320 locus of the vine life. The Aughtan gives breath of 136 00:09:02.360 --> 00:09:06.519 the directly to King and Queen. Everyone else receives it 137 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:11.360 through them. The text carved in Armano tombs, the Great 138 00:09:11.519 --> 00:09:14.679 Hymn to the Aten, best preserved in the tomb of 139 00:09:14.840 --> 00:09:20.120 Iye praise Aughtan as creator and sustain her and Dawn's raise, 140 00:09:20.240 --> 00:09:24.279 awake the world and sets creatures to work, and fold 141 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:28.360 them into sleep at dusk to him, and the hymn 142 00:09:28.480 --> 00:09:34.480 is our clearest statement of Aughten's cosmic monarchy. After Aca 143 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:38.679 Naughton's death, the symbol was suppressed. The restoration stelea of 144 00:09:40.399 --> 00:09:44.320 too in Common proclaims that the gods shrines neglected, and 145 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:49.480 he basically one of them neglected or dismantled, and some 146 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:53.720 of them are reopened and like remade, so basically after 147 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:57.360 that they kind of like got rid of this symbol, 148 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:00.720 So I do have a few of them, though, I'll 149 00:10:00.720 --> 00:10:01.639 show a couple of them. 150 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:06.879 I think, Yeah, that was another one. We see the 151 00:10:06.879 --> 00:10:07.799 little hands given the. 152 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:12.159 ANX, right, so each ray from the sun is handing 153 00:10:12.200 --> 00:10:19.039 out an anc That is a hell of a party. 154 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:27.960 So cute hands, like I'm trying to make sure they 155 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:30.080 had a digits. 156 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:36.159 Right, might have an extra one, right, call the president, 157 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:38.720 we've got an extra finger. No, but I think it's 158 00:10:38.759 --> 00:10:41.960 really interesting that they have the uh, you know, the 159 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:45.000 this is like their form of monotheism, right, it was 160 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:49.679 the visible sun now replaces all the other gods as 161 00:10:49.720 --> 00:10:52.440 the central theme in all of the religious worship. It's 162 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:56.120 it's really interesting that we've got that same theme sort 163 00:10:56.159 --> 00:10:57.279 of happening again and again. 164 00:10:59.440 --> 00:11:06.279 Yeah, the sun is so closely linked to creation. But 165 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:11.360 also isn't that nk like kind of like your higher self, 166 00:11:12.320 --> 00:11:20.120 like you're most like transformed highest self. 167 00:11:22.679 --> 00:11:26.200 That could be a New Age interpretation. I've always heard 168 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.559 that it represents the sandal, like it's the sandal strap. 169 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:35.240 So what does that say is that, like, you know, 170 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:38.480 good journey. I feel like it has like a good 171 00:11:38.600 --> 00:11:41.919 luck symbolism because it's always in a thing as a 172 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:45.440 positive symbol like nobody's handing somebody in ONC as a curse. 173 00:11:45.559 --> 00:11:48.000 You know, it's always a good thing. 174 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.679 I see it, and I think that it's the sun 175 00:11:51.799 --> 00:11:57.679 in these little hands handing people like their daemon or 176 00:11:58.000 --> 00:11:59.399 HGA or something. 177 00:12:01.919 --> 00:12:02.879 A lot of ways I could see that. 178 00:12:03.240 --> 00:12:08.519 Yeah, I don't even Yeah, I wonder if it is 179 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:11.039 interesting with the ONC. Yeah, there's so many speculations of 180 00:12:11.120 --> 00:12:14.120 what the UK could even be a do. So then 181 00:12:14.159 --> 00:12:17.200 you even have to wonder like what that well, what 182 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:19.279 that really is telling you. You know, some people sometimes 183 00:12:19.320 --> 00:12:20.919 wonder if likens can make like a sound or a 184 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:23.799 frequency or have something to do with that. If that's 185 00:12:23.799 --> 00:12:25.519 the case, is that have something to do with why 186 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:28.519 it's in the coming out of the sun for certain frequency, 187 00:12:28.559 --> 00:12:29.480 I don't know code. 188 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:33.679 I've heard people say that it's a plasma wave. So 189 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:36.240 if you were to take a metal object shaped like 190 00:12:36.279 --> 00:12:40.080 an ONC and then put a charge through it, you 191 00:12:40.159 --> 00:12:44.799 get some sort of a plasma wave, and so who 192 00:12:44.840 --> 00:12:47.120 knows that could be you know, plasma from the sun, 193 00:12:47.200 --> 00:12:52.080 plasma wave, so it could be reaching. But I'd love 194 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:53.240 to give it a try. 195 00:12:54.840 --> 00:12:57.399 I wonder if you'd have to hook a thing up 196 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:02.120 to the sides or the bottom right. 197 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:05.960 Well, apparently, like I don't know, they've got so many 198 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:11.039 like schematic like hieroglyphs in Egypt. I'll bet you could 199 00:13:11.039 --> 00:13:16.440 find some sort of reproduction of some of their maybe 200 00:13:16.480 --> 00:13:20.519 more mysterious tools to figure out what the act does, 201 00:13:20.559 --> 00:13:22.720 but that would take a while. Who knows what kind 202 00:13:22.759 --> 00:13:23.759 of material they were using. 203 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:27.559 I find it so hard to even find like good 204 00:13:27.759 --> 00:13:31.279 stuff from Egypt, like good literature anything. 205 00:13:33.200 --> 00:13:34.639 You kind of sort of wonder how much of all 206 00:13:34.720 --> 00:13:37.360 that stuff is a lot of bullshit. It's you know what, 207 00:13:37.399 --> 00:13:38.240 you know, what the thing is too? 208 00:13:38.360 --> 00:13:41.200 Is like even I think probably even for us, like 209 00:13:41.200 --> 00:13:42.919 people who are like either study, they cull to at 210 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:45.679 least symbolism. Sometimes when you even kind of look at 211 00:13:45.720 --> 00:13:48.200 like what's supposedly these academics are what it's being said, 212 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:51.519 is being drawn or it's just like that doesn't even 213 00:13:51.519 --> 00:13:53.480 make sense going by other things that I kind of 214 00:13:53.480 --> 00:13:55.960 have an idea about, you know, just even sometimes with 215 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.000 the cult symbolism, I just don't buy like what this 216 00:13:58.080 --> 00:13:59.519 supposed shit on the wall says. 217 00:14:00.279 --> 00:14:02.279 You know what I'm saying, I like, how'd you get that? 218 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:04.960 I don't know. Sometimes I just yeah, I have to 219 00:14:04.960 --> 00:14:06.320 even I just question all that. 220 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:10.759 Shit, honestly, right, I think it's far too easy for 221 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:14.279 people to put their you know, modern perspective on what 222 00:14:14.320 --> 00:14:16.799 they were thinking about back then, because you know, they 223 00:14:16.799 --> 00:14:19.159 could have had a completely different frame of reference for 224 00:14:19.240 --> 00:14:22.639 a lot of these symbols that, you know, we might 225 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:25.360 know what they sound like, but we're not exactly sure 226 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:27.919 on the total meaning of them. 227 00:14:28.559 --> 00:14:33.960 Yeah, but the eternal truths are still the eternal truths. 228 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:38.840 Very true, very true. So what what is your take 229 00:14:38.879 --> 00:14:40.600 on the soul invictus symbol. 230 00:14:42.720 --> 00:14:45.799 I'll bring it back up if you would. There was 231 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:49.360 like maple leaves on there, which. 232 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:52.360 Seems I don't know if those are maple leaves. They 233 00:14:52.399 --> 00:14:54.480 look a lot more like grape leaves to me. 234 00:14:54.720 --> 00:14:57.120 Oh yeah they do. 235 00:14:57.240 --> 00:15:01.080 Actually, Well, I guess that would that makes sense right 236 00:15:01.200 --> 00:15:04.159 with the mythra stuff, because isn't it so linked to 237 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.159 like Dionysus. 238 00:15:08.720 --> 00:15:11.960 Well, one guy who's called the Sun is very much 239 00:15:12.039 --> 00:15:14.519 linked to Dionysus, and this is one of the reasons 240 00:15:14.559 --> 00:15:18.960 why they're like, what is a what is a Dionysian 241 00:15:19.679 --> 00:15:24.159 solin victis doing here? Well, again, it's very Thracian. But 242 00:15:24.960 --> 00:15:27.279 the dying and rising god having to do with the 243 00:15:28.559 --> 00:15:31.639 December twenty fifth around the death and rebirth of the Sun. 244 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.799 I mean, that's the whole thing with solen Victus is 245 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:37.320 they call him unconquerable because he comes back at the 246 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:41.759 end of this time period where they're celebrating the death 247 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:45.240 and rebirth of the Sun. So it's a it's a 248 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:49.639 very important date for the Romans. You also have Saturnalia, 249 00:15:49.679 --> 00:15:52.399 which is another feast day around this time as well, 250 00:15:52.480 --> 00:15:58.279 that very influential. Against Saturnalia, it's focused on Chronos, the 251 00:15:58.960 --> 00:16:04.240 end boss of all of the these mystery schools. So and 252 00:16:04.679 --> 00:16:07.279 also you've got the Christmas Star. The Christmas Star is 253 00:16:07.320 --> 00:16:11.360 where about every ten years you have Jupiter and Saturn 254 00:16:11.480 --> 00:16:17.000 intersecting right around December twenty fifth. So the Christmas Star 255 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:20.120 is another big one. And you know they make a 256 00:16:20.159 --> 00:16:23.440 big deal in the Thracian versions with the Thracian Rider 257 00:16:24.159 --> 00:16:29.000 about the two stars, right, and they assume it's Castor 258 00:16:29.080 --> 00:16:32.799 and Pollux, but those two stars could be Jupiter and 259 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:37.639 Saturn because they do conjoin during the Christmas holiday. 260 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:44.879 That's kind of interesting because like they're reuniting again after 261 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:51.039 Zeus took power or something. But there's also horses and 262 00:16:51.120 --> 00:16:56.559 that seems so related to the Sun, right, like Helios 263 00:16:56.679 --> 00:17:01.080 and just. 264 00:17:01.159 --> 00:17:08.599 Very solar, right, Helios, sol Invictus, and Mithras are very 265 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:13.559 very closely related. Specifically Helios. It was more Apollo in 266 00:17:13.680 --> 00:17:20.480 southern Italy and in you know, Delphi as well, but 267 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:24.640 in Rome it was Helios. Helios really took the lead. 268 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:28.160 It was a lot less about Apollo, but you know, 269 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.920 they weren't disrespectful to it towards Apollo. It's just funny 270 00:17:30.960 --> 00:17:33.359 how these different depictions of the Sun get used in 271 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:37.200 different contexts. And in the you know, first second century 272 00:17:37.759 --> 00:17:40.960 a D. It was mostly Helios, which is funny because 273 00:17:41.000 --> 00:17:46.039 he represents sort of like two generations removed from the 274 00:17:46.119 --> 00:17:48.759 current gods that were ruling the world because he's, you know, 275 00:17:48.920 --> 00:17:51.960 Helios was the Titan god of the Sun. He's the 276 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:54.759 one who kept on the chariot instead of engaging in 277 00:17:54.799 --> 00:17:58.119 Titana Machi. So he was never part of the war 278 00:17:58.160 --> 00:17:59.119 against the Titans. 279 00:18:01.160 --> 00:18:06.720 I feel like too, having I just don't think Jesus. 280 00:18:08.079 --> 00:18:10.920 I just don't think there's much of a relation between 281 00:18:11.039 --> 00:18:14.359 Jesus and the Sun or like solar symbolism at all. 282 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:20.240 Really. So he's the son and he's got the twelve Disciples, 283 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:24.200 and the twelve Disciples are representative of the twelve signs 284 00:18:24.200 --> 00:18:26.839 of the zodiac. And you know, he's he's killed and 285 00:18:26.880 --> 00:18:29.880 then reborn in the spring. 286 00:18:31.200 --> 00:18:37.640 So I don't see death and rebirth being really that 287 00:18:37.799 --> 00:18:41.920 Solar I would, I don't know. And he's more like 288 00:18:42.039 --> 00:18:48.559 he's a martyr. He's I know that he says like 289 00:18:49.000 --> 00:18:54.960 know yourself, right, he does say that, but like he says, 290 00:18:55.160 --> 00:18:57.720 to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, you have to 291 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:02.400 like know yourself. But I just feel like just his 292 00:19:02.400 --> 00:19:07.480 his temperament, what he really stands for, like martyrdom and 293 00:19:09.559 --> 00:19:13.359 like being of service and stuff like that. It does 294 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:17.680 not scream Solar to me at all, because Solar is 295 00:19:17.799 --> 00:19:24.480 like knowing yourself and embodying like your true authenticity and 296 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:26.920 stuff like that. I don't know. 297 00:19:28.519 --> 00:19:32.319 In some ways, I think the way that Tertullian puts 298 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:36.200 it is that they were copying off of the story 299 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:40.799 of Jesus in the creation of Mithras, which we know 300 00:19:40.960 --> 00:19:44.359 that Mithris came around first, and we've got the archaeological 301 00:19:44.400 --> 00:19:48.839 evidence of that. So the difference between these two cults 302 00:19:48.960 --> 00:19:53.119 was that the Jesus cult was opened absolutely everybody, and 303 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:57.039 the Mithris cult was very exclusive. They mostly centered around 304 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:01.799 high military personnel and and you know, people within the 305 00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:06.160 institution of government. Already, Christianity didn't focus just solely on 306 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:09.079 the institution of government. They wanted everybody, so they were 307 00:20:09.079 --> 00:20:13.000 converting all sorts of people, whereas the Romans actually had to, 308 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.920 like the Roman soldiers themselves paid for all of the 309 00:20:16.960 --> 00:20:19.880 things that they built with the Mithras cult. So all 310 00:20:19.960 --> 00:20:22.640 of those caves, all that stuff that was paid for 311 00:20:22.799 --> 00:20:26.839 personally by the soldiers that were engaged in that cult activity. 312 00:20:27.160 --> 00:20:30.079 So all throughout the region, all the way up into England, 313 00:20:31.240 --> 00:20:34.440 they're building these themselves. This is not a Roman project. 314 00:20:34.480 --> 00:20:37.240 This is completely separate from that, which is I think 315 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.559 it's kind of interesting. They wanted to keep their money 316 00:20:39.640 --> 00:20:46.680 separate from the government. They wanted to have autonomy. But anyways, 317 00:20:47.079 --> 00:20:51.640 so we have you on the show because you have 318 00:20:51.680 --> 00:20:53.720 an experience that you want to share with us. 319 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:57.960 Well, it's just a dream, I don't know, like might 320 00:20:57.960 --> 00:21:03.960 as well. Okay, So I had this dream a couple 321 00:21:04.599 --> 00:21:09.839 nights ago. The first one it was, there was two dreams. 322 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:13.640 The first isn't as detailed, but it was like I 323 00:21:13.720 --> 00:21:16.400 was going to this city. It was like all snowy, 324 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.839 so it was just very white and there were these 325 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:23.920 people there, and it was like clear that they had 326 00:21:24.359 --> 00:21:30.200 killed everybody that lived in the town. And it was 327 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:34.240 like this weird cult type thing, like they didn't want 328 00:21:34.240 --> 00:21:36.880 me to leave. It seemed like I was kind of 329 00:21:36.960 --> 00:21:40.759 like one of them or whatever, because like I could fly, 330 00:21:44.599 --> 00:21:48.079 I gotn't. I couldn't fly away from them though, like 331 00:21:48.160 --> 00:21:51.960 we kept the same speed, and that was that's basically it. 332 00:21:52.000 --> 00:21:59.240 But then the second dream, that's weird. It was weird 333 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:04.400 because it was like so just white themed. 334 00:22:04.920 --> 00:22:08.000 And I think it's way that you knew you couldn't 335 00:22:08.000 --> 00:22:11.400 fly faster than them, you know what I'm saying, Like 336 00:22:11.880 --> 00:22:14.319 you even like you even had to struggle in your dream. 337 00:22:14.680 --> 00:22:16.680 That's just weird, you know what I'm saying that you 338 00:22:16.759 --> 00:22:19.240 even acknowledged that, Oh. 339 00:22:19.079 --> 00:22:21.400 Yeah, yeah, I kept trying to fly away, but they 340 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:23.400 kept the same speed, and then I would just get 341 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.440 exhausted and give up. 342 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:32.359 A lifelong attempter to fly in my dreams. I found 343 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:35.039 that if I'm having a lucid dream and then you know, 344 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:37.359 it's like all right, now it's time to try to fly, right, 345 00:22:37.799 --> 00:22:39.680 What I find is that it's a lot more like 346 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:41.799 the Hulk, you know, the Hulp just sort of jumps 347 00:22:42.200 --> 00:22:45.920 over entire continents. Yeah, and it's not exactly flying. It 348 00:22:46.039 --> 00:22:50.359 seemed more like that sensation as opposed to actual flight. 349 00:22:50.519 --> 00:22:50.720 You know. 350 00:22:51.880 --> 00:22:57.440 I had one lucid dream once where I like trained 351 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:00.559 myself to look at my hands right, because you need 352 00:23:00.599 --> 00:23:04.759 a trigger in your dream to be able to like 353 00:23:05.640 --> 00:23:08.039 notice that you're asleep to be able to control it. 354 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.480 So that was like my thing. I would just like 355 00:23:10.920 --> 00:23:13.359 multiple times a day just look at my hands and 356 00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:17.279 be like, Wow, I'm really aware of my hands. I'm 357 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:21.200 awake right now. And then if you do that habitually, 358 00:23:21.279 --> 00:23:23.519 like you might do that in your dream. And I 359 00:23:23.559 --> 00:23:26.319 did do it in my dream and I was like, oh, 360 00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:30.359 I'm asleep, and then I was able to control the dream. 361 00:23:30.400 --> 00:23:32.880 But I flew in that dream, and that was like 362 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:39.440 real flight and that was awesome. But the second dream, 363 00:23:39.720 --> 00:23:44.799 I was at my childhood home and like we have 364 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:48.640 like we had a house kind of above our garage, 365 00:23:49.920 --> 00:23:54.480 and like two commercial vehicles came into the driveway and 366 00:23:54.559 --> 00:23:56.480 then one of them left and I was like, Okay, 367 00:23:56.559 --> 00:24:00.480 that's really weird. It's night. And so I was like 368 00:24:01.160 --> 00:24:08.000 plotting up this escape plan and so I was like, Okay, 369 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:12.279 I'll go on the balcony, I'll climb down the fence 370 00:24:12.440 --> 00:24:17.039 to the side and then like run away. But they 371 00:24:17.079 --> 00:24:23.799 had like surrounded the house, and so they like caught 372 00:24:23.839 --> 00:24:25.559 me and they were like making me do all of 373 00:24:25.599 --> 00:24:32.359 these like psychic weird training things with some other random 374 00:24:32.440 --> 00:24:38.119 dude that they had kidnapped. And they put like these 375 00:24:38.160 --> 00:24:47.599 weird things in my thighs, like these metal discs. Yeah, yep, 376 00:24:47.720 --> 00:24:50.680 And and those discs made it so like I couldn't run. 377 00:24:50.480 --> 00:24:53.400 Away go again. Another thing with you not being able 378 00:24:53.440 --> 00:24:54.279 to go fast. 379 00:24:56.000 --> 00:25:02.400 That's like. But yeah, they were like making us do 380 00:25:02.480 --> 00:25:05.680 these weird psychic trainings and stuff. And I remember like 381 00:25:05.759 --> 00:25:09.640 at one point it was like I don't know, just 382 00:25:09.880 --> 00:25:14.160 great despair, you know, Like I was doing a training 383 00:25:14.200 --> 00:25:16.920 with this random dude. We fall on the ground and 384 00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:22.400 we're just like devastated at the loss of our freedom 385 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:27.559 and like, you know, our families that we had left 386 00:25:27.559 --> 00:25:34.279 behind all that stuff. And then I had like cut 387 00:25:34.359 --> 00:25:35.920 the discs out of my leg. 388 00:25:36.160 --> 00:25:36.759 Oh fuck. 389 00:25:38.279 --> 00:25:42.359 So I had this plan and this like chick that 390 00:25:42.519 --> 00:25:45.240 was like our handler or whatever, she was like, oh, 391 00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.599 you don't sleep very much, do you? And I was like, 392 00:25:48.160 --> 00:25:50.880 why do you care? Then she went and she went 393 00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.440 away for the day, and like the random dude also 394 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.000 was asleep. So I was like, okay, this is my time. 395 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:01.319 I cut the I'm out of my thighs. I can 396 00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.480 run now, and so I did, and I went to 397 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:10.680 like go see my sister, who was a She was 398 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:15.680 like doing this bake off or something. And so I 399 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:19.920 get there and there's like all these people and there's 400 00:26:20.000 --> 00:26:24.319 like people selling their base goods. Some of them are 401 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:26.799