1 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:18,600 Speaker 1: Welcome back, everyone to a new episode of You Were 2 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,239 Wrong with Molly Hemingway, editor in chief of The Federalist, 3 00:00:21,399 --> 00:00:24,399 and David Harsani, senior writer at The Washington Examiner. If 4 00:00:24,399 --> 00:00:27,160 you'd like to email the show, please do so at 5 00:00:27,239 --> 00:00:29,839 radio at the Federalist dot com. We'd love to hear 6 00:00:29,879 --> 00:00:32,960 from you. Molly. Before we came on, you were just 7 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,039 being very pushy about Poland and wanted to speak about Poland. 8 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:38,920 It's not one of my favorite topics, but go, let's 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:39,200 hear it. 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: Well, No, we're recording this on the day when the 11 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,880 new president of Poland will be meeting with Donald Trump. 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,000 And I just I think we talked about our visit 13 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,359 to Poland in May, and it was a country I 14 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:57,159 had been mildly interested in, just as one of the 15 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:00,600 many post communist countries, and I had had a long 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,000 time ago some interest in studying the economies of post 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:09,000 Soviet countries and how they engaged in their adaptation to 18 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:15,239 a market based economy. And Poland is doing very well. 19 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:19,680 It's very hot economically. It's like the twentieth biggest economy 20 00:01:19,719 --> 00:01:22,040 in the world and has had a lot of growth. 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,959 They have a very strong skilled workforce, they have a 22 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:29,599 lot of different products that they sell internally and also 23 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:33,959 on the global stage. And it's also been interesting politically. 24 00:01:34,159 --> 00:01:37,400 They are a country that has had much less immigration 25 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:44,519 than their European neighbors, particularly much less immigration from countries 26 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,159 that don't share their same values. So there is right now, 27 00:01:48,319 --> 00:01:50,480 because they share a border with Ukraine, there's a ton 28 00:01:50,519 --> 00:01:55,319 of Ukrainian immigration as they just try to help refugees 29 00:01:55,359 --> 00:01:59,200 from that war torn country, but not a ton from 30 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Africa or the Middle East. And they also have in 31 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,520 this new president a really interesting figure. He openly campaigned 32 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:15,120 against rampant mass immigration. He also highlighted that the government 33 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:19,080 party that he was in opposition to had been Russia 34 00:02:19,159 --> 00:02:24,599 collusion hoaxers. Anne Applebaum, who's with the Atlantic and a 35 00:02:24,599 --> 00:02:28,919 bunch of different outfits. Her husband is the deputy Prime 36 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,520 Minister and like a foreign minister, and she's a full blown, 37 00:02:33,319 --> 00:02:38,319 full blowsies Russia collusion hoaxer. And so this new president 38 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,439 who was just elected in May, and by the way, 39 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,960 he was elected under very difficult circumstances. They basically the regime, 40 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,280 the powerful forces really did not want him to win. 41 00:02:49,719 --> 00:02:51,159 They did all the things that you saw in the 42 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,199 United states with like law fair against people in his 43 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,199 political party, and he just eked out a win and 44 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:01,039 he's meeting with Trump today and he's not meeting alongside 45 00:03:01,159 --> 00:03:04,800 those Rodek, Sikorski and Apple bomb type So I just 46 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,520 think it's interesting and it's a country that people should 47 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,319 pay much more attention to because it is thriving in 48 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:13,919 a Europe that has been a little bit. You know, 49 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,199 we're all looking at Europe, going, are you guys okay? 50 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,199 And Poland at least seems to be doing okay. 51 00:03:21,199 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly no expert, but I did read recently it 52 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:27,439 joined the trillion dollar GDP GDP club, which makes it 53 00:03:27,479 --> 00:03:29,280 one of the richest countries in the world. Like you said, 54 00:03:29,319 --> 00:03:32,599 Top twenty, it's adopted a lot of free market ideas. 55 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,479 Other states have done that, like Stony and Latvia have 56 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:43,000 done very well. Much smaller countries and countries that have not, 57 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:45,360 like Hungary, which was socialistic for a long time and 58 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,240 now has kind of a top down status kind of economy, 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,759 are struggling. So I just sometimes I think about countries 60 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,800 like the turn it around, like Argentina, let's say, or 61 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:57,840 even Ireland, which was once the POORESTKA Even though I 62 00:03:57,879 --> 00:03:59,360 have a lot of problems with Ireland was once the 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,479 poorest country in Europe and now one of the richest ones. 64 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,879 It adopted a bunch of free market ideas, and why 65 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:07,039 people keep rejecting those ideas when it comes to growth 66 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:12,360 is confused. You know, I'm confused by it. But we'll see. Yeah, 67 00:04:12,639 --> 00:04:16,720 that's a great story in the immigration angle. Obviously, that 68 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,959 is a big anchor for a lot of these European 69 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:25,480 nations where they're just have an unassimilated rather large population 70 00:04:25,639 --> 00:04:29,600 that is undermining not just all kinds of freedoms. As 71 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:31,639 you know, we'll probably talk about that later in the 72 00:04:31,639 --> 00:04:37,519 episode as well. Quickly wanted to turn to a topic 73 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,720 that is depressing, but we were on last week, and 74 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:44,560 while we were on, we didn't get to talk about it. 75 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:52,920 Newsbroke of another shooting in Minnesota, this time a transgendered shooter. 76 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,079 I will never mention the name of these shooters, and 77 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,199 I wish that the media didn't because a lot of 78 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,360 the times, of course, they thrive or act because they 79 00:05:02,399 --> 00:05:05,600 think they'll be famous post shooting. I don't really know 80 00:05:05,639 --> 00:05:08,399 a way around the reporting, but anyway, shot through a 81 00:05:08,399 --> 00:05:09,879 window killed two young children. 82 00:05:11,439 --> 00:05:16,439 Speaker 3: What's the and many many seriously. 83 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen people were hurt seriously, So it was an 84 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:28,079 ugly event. I want to just talk about the coverage 85 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:33,319 of the event, which I think points to a cultural shift, 86 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,160 I guess, and how people because of social media, frankly 87 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,439 with how people view this. But I'll just read the 88 00:05:40,439 --> 00:05:45,959 New York Times headline, Minneapolis suspect knew her target, but 89 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:51,839 motive is a mystery. Now. I mentioned this in a calumn. 90 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,360 I wrote, but you know, we overuse the word orwellian. 91 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:58,399 But man, I don't know a better way to describe 92 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,639 that headline. I guess I had to ask you, Like, 93 00:06:03,439 --> 00:06:10,160 there's obviously a lot of the media coverage mentions she 94 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:14,680 even though it was a he, and some didn't. Some 95 00:06:14,879 --> 00:06:19,240 just called the shooter a he without mentioning that he 96 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:24,319 had uh, you know, preferred pronouns of she. It's like 97 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,439 some of the some of the coverage was like, we're 98 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,160 going to continue on this road and pretend that this 99 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,759 is a normal thing, and others are like, we get 100 00:06:31,759 --> 00:06:34,839 to decide who's transgendered and who who's not, and if 101 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,199 they do something evil, then we get to pretend that 102 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,920 it didn't happen. Do you know what I mean, so 103 00:06:38,959 --> 00:06:41,199 it was like all kinds of coverage that is weird, 104 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,279 and then it says that the motive is a mystery. 105 00:06:44,079 --> 00:06:48,240 This person's gun had all kinds of scribblings on it. 106 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:51,600 One of them is like six millions not enough, you know, 107 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:56,240 kill Donald Trump. The person shot at Catholic school children 108 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,879 who were in mass I think that the ass anti 109 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,120 Western bent of this person and the kind of like 110 00:07:03,439 --> 00:07:09,240 trendy ugly anti religion, anti West, anti freedoms, you know, 111 00:07:09,519 --> 00:07:12,439 anti Semitic stuff is pretty clear where that's coming from. 112 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,639 It's on the edges of the left. Some of that 113 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,839 goes on on the right, but not to kill Donald 114 00:07:17,839 --> 00:07:20,319 Trump part right. I mean, it was pretty obvious to 115 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:25,439 me anyway. What what'd you make of the coverage? I 116 00:07:25,519 --> 00:07:26,759 just thought it was so misleading. 117 00:07:27,319 --> 00:07:31,319 Speaker 2: Oh there's I mean, it's criminal how bad corporate media 118 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,439 coverage is of this stuff. One of the things that 119 00:07:34,519 --> 00:07:37,680 was interesting about this man who killed all these kids 120 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,079 and shot all these kids is that he had a 121 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:45,839 track record, like a legal track record, of expressing a 122 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:49,879 desire to be referred to as a woman. His mom 123 00:07:50,079 --> 00:07:53,040 signed off on a name change request on those grounds 124 00:07:53,079 --> 00:07:57,079 when he was underage, but he also had on his 125 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:03,800 social media channels expressed a belief that he understood now 126 00:08:03,839 --> 00:08:06,040 that he was not a woman, but that he felt 127 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,399 kind of trapped that it would be a failure to 128 00:08:08,519 --> 00:08:12,959 admit that he is a man and that he also 129 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:17,279 feels weird as a man. So I think that's partly 130 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:21,079 why you saw some of the coverage referring because most 131 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,839 corporate media will use false pronouns and will lie in 132 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,839 defensive trans radicals. They will do that. They refer to 133 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:33,000 men who say that they feel like they are women, 134 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,399 they will refer to those men as women, and they 135 00:08:35,399 --> 00:08:39,480 will use false pronouns like she and her and all 136 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,960 that to describe those people. But when they didn't do it, 137 00:08:44,039 --> 00:08:48,840 I think partly that was because the absurdity of that 138 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,960 trans radical activism was particularly on display here, because he 139 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,320 had already said he felt like trans radicalism was had 140 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,039 brainwashed him and that it was not good. You mentioned 141 00:09:02,039 --> 00:09:07,679 that he said kill Trump on the gun, and I 142 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,399 will also note that the media sometimes would say that 143 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,399 he had written the name Trump on his gun, which. 144 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:17,399 Speaker 1: Is ABC said that Trump was mentioned on the gun 145 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,879 without the context of killing Trump. 146 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,759 Speaker 2: Michael Malice says something like the media are factual but 147 00:09:23,879 --> 00:09:26,399 not truthful. And that would be a great example. It 148 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,919 does say Trump on the gun, and yet you're still 149 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,320 lying when you report the news that way. And then also, 150 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:40,759 I am just sick, sickened beyond belief by how if Okay, 151 00:09:40,759 --> 00:09:43,399 so there are these you know, mentally unwell people who 152 00:09:43,399 --> 00:09:49,919 are killing children, and if that person has any identity 153 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:54,120 that can be pinned on the mainstream right, the media 154 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,360 will wait approximately zero point two seconds before doing so 155 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,360 and demanding that every single elected official on the right 156 00:10:02,919 --> 00:10:07,360 renounce the cause of this person. And here we have 157 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:12,000 a series you know, trans people. Though it's a social contagion, 158 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,519 so it's growing among young people. They're really small percentage 159 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,720 of the population relative to the amount of violence they're committing. Right, 160 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:26,960 And if, like a white supremacist shoots up a black church, 161 00:10:27,039 --> 00:10:31,200 people will immediately say to people who aren't white supremacists, like, 162 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:36,360 you need to renounce this ideology. But when a trans 163 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,919 radical in the name of trans radicalism, you know, when 164 00:10:39,919 --> 00:10:43,480 a bunch of these people are killing children, nobody says. 165 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,720 Nobody asks a tough question of Democrats who support trans radicalism. 166 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: Right, No, it's one hundred percent right. If there is 167 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:56,879 even a tenuous connection to any thing that even resembles 168 00:10:56,919 --> 00:11:00,840 any kind of right wing you know, political rhetoric or whatever. 169 00:11:00,919 --> 00:11:03,720 Immediately we taught we have to talk about Republicans and 170 00:11:03,759 --> 00:11:06,600 they are you know, the way that they are inspiring 171 00:11:06,759 --> 00:11:09,480 violence and so on, and if it's anything left wing, 172 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:11,919 we immediately have to talk about how Republicans aren't letting 173 00:11:11,919 --> 00:11:16,200 gun control go through and fix this problem. It's funny 174 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,960 that you mention, so I don't know if the transgender 175 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,000 drugs or the process or whatever is. You know, I 176 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:30,159 don't know how big a part of that is with 177 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:32,480 these shootings. And maybe it's it is, maybe it's not. 178 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,320 I'm not you know, I don't know. But the funny 179 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,399 thing is when I do mention that it's something that 180 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:41,799 at least we should explore that perhaps these people, because 181 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,480 of their ideology or the drugs they're taking, or being 182 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,279 led to this kind of thing. I'm told that most 183 00:11:47,279 --> 00:11:50,279 shooters are white men, as if white men being white 184 00:11:50,279 --> 00:11:52,919 and a man is an affliction, not just the kind 185 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,759 of genetic thing that happens to you by chance. Right. 186 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,720 So I hate it's such an identitarian way to look 187 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,480 at the world. One of these things as an idiot 188 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,840 comes with an ideology, comes with the sort of mind 189 00:12:04,879 --> 00:12:09,120 warping drugs in a way and reality warp being process 190 00:12:09,159 --> 00:12:11,320 where the other ones just white. I had nothing to 191 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,240 do with a lot of other white men. We don't 192 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:18,519 share a philosophy or you know, or anything. So anyway, 193 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:24,080 it's just incredible the way that they kind of warp reality. 194 00:12:24,639 --> 00:12:29,039 But the biggest myth that happens with the with the media, 195 00:12:29,039 --> 00:12:31,720 I still is that whenever they talk about this stuff, 196 00:12:31,759 --> 00:12:34,559 they make it sound like Republicans are the standing in 197 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:41,559 the way of stopping this problem, when there is none, no, no, 198 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,600 nothing that Democrats have come up with would have stopped 199 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,080 this shooter other than banning guns outright and going house 200 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,840 to house and collecting them all, which is not going 201 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:53,559 to happen. Gun free zones are batting zero, you know, 202 00:12:53,639 --> 00:12:59,159 point zero zero, never stop anyone. Universal background checks. Most 203 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:02,240 of these shooters, like this person did not commit crimes, 204 00:13:02,279 --> 00:13:05,240 so they can pass, you know, a background check, which 205 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,519 happens even if you band assault weapons not a real thing. 206 00:13:10,039 --> 00:13:13,039 Over eighty percent of these shooters use handguns. It's just 207 00:13:13,039 --> 00:13:16,200 an aesthetic choice that they use. The ars and so on. 208 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,039 I mean, I watched a lot of this coverage, and 209 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,240 they did not bring on a single person who's like, 210 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,919 what would because the mayor of Minneapolis is like, we 211 00:13:24,039 --> 00:13:26,720 have to you know, we need universal background checks, but 212 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:29,519 this person bought their guns legally, So what do you 213 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:33,840 do then? Obviously, I think it's a cultural problem and 214 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,960 we have to start thinking about young people who are 215 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,799 acting in certain ways and try to intervene as a community. 216 00:13:39,919 --> 00:13:41,919 You know, these kids don't go to church anymore, the 217 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,440 schools don't care, on and on. You know, there's a 218 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,519 lot of other reasons I don't parents. 219 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 2: So can I say another thing that bothered me about 220 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:52,240 the coverage. 221 00:13:51,879 --> 00:13:54,559 Speaker 1: Or the respond thank you for letting me rant? 222 00:13:55,039 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: No, I mean, obviously an agreement there. One of the 223 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:03,440 really weird things was the return of something that was 224 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,200 very popular in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen on the left, 225 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,799 which was to mock. 226 00:14:08,879 --> 00:14:14,039 Speaker 3: Christians for praying during times of evil and tragedy. 227 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:18,799 Speaker 2: So, as a Christian who prays, it is so weird 228 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:23,480 to see the just open disdain for one of the 229 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,240 most important practices of the Christian life. And it was 230 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:31,000 coming from really prominent people, you know, Gavin Newsom was 231 00:14:31,039 --> 00:14:35,200 saying like it actually was shocking to me what he said, 232 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,360 because I usually think he's much smarter about how he 233 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:43,840 engages in the public square. So he, I think, retweeted 234 00:14:43,879 --> 00:14:47,879 someone saying that they're praying for the victims of this shooting, 235 00:14:48,799 --> 00:14:53,120 and he said, the children who were shot were praying 236 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,080 when they were shot. And so for a Christian, in fact, 237 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,519 the idea of being in prayer, in worship at the 238 00:15:01,559 --> 00:15:03,559 time of like if you're going to be murdered, we 239 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:06,759 would say that would be the ideal place if you 240 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,679 if you had to go through that in that action. 241 00:15:08,919 --> 00:15:11,360 I know that doesn't even make sense to talk that way, 242 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,840 but for us, like saying they were praying when they 243 00:15:13,879 --> 00:15:14,840 were murdered is like. 244 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,159 Speaker 1: Yes, my wife, my wife said straight to Heaven for them. 245 00:15:19,559 --> 00:15:24,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, well she's Roman Catholic. So does that mean that 246 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:33,559 they get to skip the I? And so when he says, 247 00:15:34,919 --> 00:15:39,440 in other words, their prayers meant nothing, it's very weird 248 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,440 to see a prominent American politician say that, because for us, 249 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:45,919 their prayers mean, as your wife said, like, it means everything. 250 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:48,720 It's this highest act of a Christian is to be 251 00:15:48,799 --> 00:15:54,519 in prayer. And I don't know, it's just shocking to 252 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:58,639 see so many people openly mocking the acts of Christians 253 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,480 at the time when they are the victims of an 254 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:05,519 ideology that Gavin Newsom shares. Like the closeness between all 255 00:16:05,559 --> 00:16:08,399 of that, Gavin Newsom is a trans radical, the shooter 256 00:16:08,519 --> 00:16:11,919 was a trans radical. He's mocking prayer. The shooter was 257 00:16:12,039 --> 00:16:14,519 mocking prayer. Like they're all, it's just weird to see. 258 00:16:14,559 --> 00:16:18,639 And then also the media are like, nothing to see here. Well, 259 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:22,840 they did a Republican being like, I don't know, somehow 260 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:27,279 aligning themselves with the views of a mass shooter at 261 00:16:27,279 --> 00:16:28,440 the time of a mass shooting. 262 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: They're so invested in this idea that that is untrue 263 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:40,879 that Republicans send thoughts and prayers as a solution. I 264 00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:43,159 guess people listen, I don't pray, but I guess people 265 00:16:43,159 --> 00:16:46,039 aren't religious, don't understand the power of prayer or dismiss 266 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,440 it right, But I think, aside from the theological parts 267 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,679 of it, it's probably a very comforting thing to pray 268 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:56,000 when you are experiencing a tragedy. On a personal level, 269 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:58,879 I have I always ask them name me the person 270 00:16:58,919 --> 00:17:01,519 who said that thoughts and prayers or a solution to 271 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,839 a mass shooting. I mean they can't provide me that person, 272 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:10,400 so in the end they just are mocking prayer. I 273 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,680 find it, I really, I find it demented, really I do. 274 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:19,079 And to essentially be mocking the children and the parents 275 00:17:19,079 --> 00:17:21,079 of those children who were just murdered in a church 276 00:17:21,759 --> 00:17:28,400 by some religion hating you know, nutcase who in essence 277 00:17:28,599 --> 00:17:32,720 was searching for his own kind of religion in it, 278 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,119 and the emptiness that you know, he realized at the 279 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:39,000 end it was just an empty promise of transgenderism and 280 00:17:39,039 --> 00:17:45,440 all that. So I don't know, it's just the debate always. 281 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:50,119 Every time there's a shooting, the debate is the same. 282 00:17:50,839 --> 00:17:53,359 Chris Murphy, like a leading gun control guy, you know, 283 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:57,920 one said that called, you know, the mental health concerns 284 00:17:58,039 --> 00:18:00,799 bs right, like he doesn't want to talk about that. 285 00:18:01,839 --> 00:18:04,440 It's not even like they will are willing to talk 286 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:07,000 about how important it is for a cultural change and 287 00:18:07,039 --> 00:18:10,599 how we deal with young people who do this. For him, 288 00:18:10,759 --> 00:18:14,079 it's all about the guns. There are hundreds of millions 289 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,160 of guns in this country. People are going to get 290 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,720 their hands on weapons. Just in Europe, there's knife attacks 291 00:18:19,759 --> 00:18:23,359 all the time. It happens. So I don't think anyone, well, 292 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,039 not anyone. I don't think they want to solve this 293 00:18:25,079 --> 00:18:27,279 problem at all, and nothing happened. 294 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 2: David, I feel like you're probably the wrong person to 295 00:18:30,039 --> 00:18:31,680 talk to about this, but I'm just going to say 296 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,960 it anyway, which is I also found it interesting that 297 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:39,720 the shooter described himself as demonically possessed, drew pictures of 298 00:18:39,799 --> 00:18:43,599 himself like looking in the mirror and Satan looking back. 299 00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:47,200 You know, he was very open about his view that 300 00:18:47,319 --> 00:18:52,000 he was demonically you know, that he was possessed, and 301 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,960 then he goes and shoots up a bunch of Christian 302 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,960 children while they are praying, and you look at I 303 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,319 think sometimes we look at these periods of time where 304 00:19:00,319 --> 00:19:06,440 people would ascribe to evil principalities or like good forces. 305 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,599 You know, we'd say, oh, they didn't understand how the 306 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,920 world worked at that time, so they would say that 307 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,599 someone was a witch when really, you know, they just 308 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,640 had this mental health problem or something. And I think 309 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,160 we have so clearly gone to this other extreme of 310 00:19:20,279 --> 00:19:28,759 just refusing to acknowledge evil, and throughout human history wise 311 00:19:28,799 --> 00:19:32,920 people have understood that evil exists, and in fact, our 312 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,960 whole system of government is based on this idea that 313 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,839 human impulses are bad and need to be restrained. And 314 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:43,960 you know, like our constitution is even based somewhat on 315 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:49,599 this idea, and people who understand that all of that 316 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,200 things you could do, like ban every gun, or ban 317 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,839 freedom of speech, or have complete surveillance or pre crime, 318 00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:59,599 like whatever you could do, will not actually solve the 319 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:05,000 problem of evil, because that is beyond human ability. And 320 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,279 then we get back to the efficacy of prayer, of 321 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:17,720 understanding that there is something non materialist in play here. So, 322 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,519 like I said, you're probably not the right person as an. 323 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,799 Speaker 1: I would just I would just I would just say 324 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,039 I think last week you actually mentioned I thought it 325 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:28,240 was a good point. I'm starting about serial killers, and 326 00:20:28,279 --> 00:20:29,920 you're like, well, we don't have them anymore, but we 327 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,039 have mass shooters. I think that evils always with us, 328 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,079 however you want to describe it. In fact, I think 329 00:20:36,079 --> 00:20:38,960 that we are so horrified by these sorts of events 330 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:42,039 now that perhaps were more moral than people used to 331 00:20:42,079 --> 00:20:44,000 be in a sense, like we're more shocked by it 332 00:20:44,039 --> 00:20:47,240 because there were far more murders when we were born, 333 00:20:47,279 --> 00:20:49,440 you and I were born in the United States, there 334 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,759 were far more. Even if you think about mass shooting 335 00:20:52,799 --> 00:20:55,799 as for people being shot like murder rates were higher 336 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,920 in the in the medieval times or going back, there 337 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,640 were wars that you know, there were genocides all the time, 338 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,119 they were murders all the time. It was you know 339 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,799 place was the world was a much more violent place 340 00:21:07,839 --> 00:21:11,160 than today in many ways. And evil is always around. 341 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,759 I don't know, you're never going to stop it, but 342 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,720 you can. You can do things to try to mitigate 343 00:21:17,759 --> 00:21:24,640 the problem, right, I mean, make Gunfrey's zone strip parishioners 344 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:27,720 and teachers of the ability to defend themselves for instance, 345 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:29,440 Like why do we do that we have a Second 346 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,759 Amendment if you can't defend children in a school or 347 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:35,799 parishioners and children in a church school. And what's the 348 00:21:35,799 --> 00:21:38,000 purpose of the Second Amendment? Really? I mean, how good? 349 00:21:38,039 --> 00:21:40,920 How functional is it? Things like that. And I'm not 350 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,359 saying that's there's no panacea for this sort of thing, 351 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,640 but there are things we can do. I don't know. 352 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,440 I don't know why people are evil, but I know 353 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:53,319 that there've always been evil people, right, and and I 354 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:55,640 feel like if we stop school shootings, they would filtrate 355 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,839 into some other way to kill people. I don't know, 356 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:59,799 you know, I don't have answers for that, but I 357 00:21:59,799 --> 00:22:05,279 do think mocking people who finds who are praying to 358 00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:09,920 God when something terrible happens to them is I don't 359 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,759 even know. It's evil itself in a way. Right, And 360 00:22:13,799 --> 00:22:17,200 whether you believe or not, I just you know, and 361 00:22:17,279 --> 00:22:19,279 most listeners know that I am not a believer, But 362 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,559 this antagonism towards faith and the ideas of faith and 363 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,440 people who practice faith who are usually better people than 364 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,799 those who don't. I'm sorry, I believe that or you 365 00:22:29,839 --> 00:22:33,079 know that. To me, it's like an attack on Western 366 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,359 culture in a way that this person who's the shooter 367 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,599 adopted to a radical extreme, but it's from the same 368 00:22:42,759 --> 00:22:45,160 strain of idea, right. I'm just thinking this through as 369 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,559 I talk. 370 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 2: This is Molly Hemingway encouraging you to listen to my 371 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,920 favorite podcast, Issues, etc. Every day you get in depth 372 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,079 interviews with host Todd Wilkin, asking expert guests substantive, thought 373 00:23:03,079 --> 00:23:06,680 provoking questions on all of the important news and issues 374 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:12,039 of our day. The expert guests are in culture, law, ethics, philosophy, theology, 375 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:18,160 and apologetics. Expert guests expansive topics, always extolling christ issues, 376 00:23:18,319 --> 00:23:18,839 et cetera. 377 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: But since we're on I guess the transgendered issue, which 378 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,200 is such a it's such a it is a contagion, right, 379 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,000 but it is not like an over it's still a 380 00:23:32,039 --> 00:23:35,240 small minority of people, and it's somehow become this foundational 381 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,039 idea within the progressive left. It's such a weird, destructive thing. 382 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:45,440 Like so anyway, there's this comedian, this Irish comedian named 383 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,920 Graham Graham Linhan, who I think is super talented because 384 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,279 he is the creator of the show It Crowd, which 385 00:23:52,319 --> 00:23:52,640 I think is. 386 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 2: One of the love of the it crowd, don't it? 387 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,960 I lie, I lie, I lie, and then I lie. 388 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,599 Speaker 3: He sorry. 389 00:24:00,599 --> 00:24:01,799 Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite lines from that. 390 00:24:02,759 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: Have you ever watched Black Books? It's another show he did. 391 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,599 It was only on like two seasons, very funny. It's 392 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,440 about an owner of a bookstore who hates his customers. 393 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:12,799 And then he did another show I did not watch 394 00:24:12,839 --> 00:24:15,720 called Father Ted, which was an earlier show in the nineties. 395 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:17,279 Never watched it. I don't know if you have. But 396 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:24,000 he is a funny guy. He's Irish, That's important for 397 00:24:24,079 --> 00:24:28,319 our story. When he was recently in the United States, 398 00:24:28,519 --> 00:24:32,279 I think Arizona, he tweeted out a couple of anti 399 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,359 trans tweets. I wudn't even call it anti trans tweets. 400 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:40,480 I'd call it reality jokes about reality. When he returned 401 00:24:40,519 --> 00:24:44,240 to England, five police officers were waiting for him at 402 00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:53,400 the airport, arrested him, took his bags, look through them, 403 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,319 and he spent hours detained because he had made jokes 404 00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:01,440 on Twitter. Now it's important to say he's Irish. He 405 00:25:01,559 --> 00:25:04,559 made the jokes in the United States and in Britain 406 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:08,759 they arrested him for it. He points out that in 407 00:25:08,839 --> 00:25:12,000 Father Ted he makes jokes about the Catholic Church and 408 00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:15,200 he's thankful that they didn't have a special police relationship 409 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:20,839 in the UK, where he would have been arrested. I listen. 410 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,039 I wrote a book called Eurotrash's a whole chapter about 411 00:25:23,039 --> 00:25:26,319 free speech dying in Europe. I've saw some people from 412 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:34,400 Britain mention that this happened because Elon Musk bought Twitter, 413 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,000 and now people can say the most horrible things to many, 414 00:25:37,039 --> 00:25:40,359 many people and it just simply can't be allowed. But 415 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,599 in that book I document that this is not a 416 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,839 new thing. That iman in twenty eighteen you had the 417 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,680 British authorities looking into people who were tweeting things they 418 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,119 didn't like. Indeed, people in London who were preaching the 419 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,920 Bible in parks were arrested because they were allegedly engaged 420 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,240 in hateful speech. This is not new. It is heartbreaking 421 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,799 because Europe is falling, but Europe is falling in Britain 422 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,799 is especially heartbreaking because they essentially are the invented free speech. 423 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,960 They essentially invented our rights, in my view at least. 424 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,640 I mean, I think Britain is where we get our ideas. 425 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,200 We perfected them I think in the Constitution. But they 426 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,359 certainly come from there for the most part, not just 427 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,599 the English, but the Scottish as well. Of course, I 428 00:26:26,599 --> 00:26:29,559 mean that's the birthplace of the you know, the Enlightenment, 429 00:26:29,759 --> 00:26:31,400 you know, happened there large part. 430 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:38,799 Speaker 2: So anyway, so what speech rights do they have, if any? 431 00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:45,519 Speaker 1: In Britain. There is a kind of First Amendment actually, 432 00:26:45,599 --> 00:26:47,480 now that they're out of the EU. The EU has 433 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:53,680 a First Amendment with a lot of addendums for things 434 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,359 that you can say. But Britain, you know, I don't 435 00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:00,599 exactly remember, I think they have something approximating of First Amendment. 436 00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:02,960 But as Scalia pointed out, those things are irrelevant when 437 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,440 the people don't actually care about them, and they do not. 438 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,359 I don't know, what did you see the story? What 439 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,200 was your reaction? 440 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 2: So I think it's first off, you know, important to 441 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:19,839 look at what he actually said, because it's important to 442 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,079 know how speech rights can be abridged. So they didn't 443 00:27:24,079 --> 00:27:26,720 say that they were coming after him for speaking things 444 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,799 that they didn't like. What they said is that he 445 00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:32,839 had incited violence against a protected group. And so he's 446 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:37,559 making all sorts of jokes related to like in the 447 00:27:37,559 --> 00:27:41,359 the context is kind of key. So he they say, 448 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:48,880 recommended that people beat up trans people, okay, sort of 449 00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:52,240 but sort of as a way of pointing out that 450 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,400 trans people aren't the identity that they claimed to be. 451 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,319 So he said something like, if you're a woman, link 452 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,799 threatened in a bathroom because there are men in there, 453 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,880 Like a trans woman is in there, just kick that 454 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:12,799 trans woman in the cojones to be safe. So, like, 455 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,480 the joke is about the colonies, the woman having a 456 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:27,480 sensitive external genitalia, which a woman doesn't have, and that's 457 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,680 how they go after everybody. I actually was just meeting 458 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:35,119 today with a social media, big tech type group and 459 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,000 they were claiming that they practice free speech and I scoffed, 460 00:28:40,279 --> 00:28:44,680 and you know, just kind of explored the contours of 461 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,599 what they think free speeches. And one of the things 462 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:50,640 they were saying is that you are allowed. You won't 463 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,359 have your content removed by this big tech company if 464 00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:57,839 you dead name someone, so long as the dead naming 465 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,799 was accidental. It was an example of the free speech 466 00:29:02,039 --> 00:29:05,960 they accepted. The propaganda term dead naming, which is the 467 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,200 using a previous legal name for someone who has changed 468 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,799 their legal name. Yeah, as long as it was accidental. 469 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,640 If you were doing it to hurt that individual or 470 00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:21,640 falsely assert that they are not the sex they falsely 471 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,960 claim to be, well then we'll remove your content. And 472 00:29:27,519 --> 00:29:30,759 it's all in this inciting violence claim made by the 473 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:35,880 censorship industrial complex that has real significant legal consequences in 474 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:40,880 Great Britain, but also in a number of other contexts 475 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:41,200 as well. 476 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:44,559 Speaker 1: So, just to go back a little bit, I looked 477 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:47,480 it up. I thought this was true. But Article ten 478 00:29:47,519 --> 00:29:52,079 of the Conventions of Human Rights, that's an EU constitution, 479 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,440 essentially protects free speech, and the British took that and 480 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,960 made it part of its own law. The funny thing 481 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:03,400 about it is that it is paragraphs along so the 482 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,000 first paragraph says everyone has the right to enjoy freedom 483 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,000 of expression, and then it goes on and on giving 484 00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:10,880 you reasons why perhaps you. 485 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,799 Speaker 3: Cannot why that might not be true if. 486 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: You cause anything to do with national security, territorial disorder, crime. 487 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,680 It just creates a false sense that there is a 488 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,559 kind of protection for speech. 489 00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: I just want to say one other thing about the 490 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,079 social contagion aspect and how much power trans radicalists have 491 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,400 over our society given what a small percentage of the 492 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:47,759 population they are. You know, trans radicalism requires lying, So 493 00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,400 the power is partly just because for them to exist, 494 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720 you all have to agree to lie about what a 495 00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:59,440 woman is or what biological reality is. But in many 496 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:03,079 ways it goes back to the BLM color Revolution that 497 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,680 took place not just in the United States but globally. 498 00:31:06,599 --> 00:31:09,960 I remember the moment the BLM riots. So BLM started 499 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,799 based on like false stories out of Ferguson, Missouri in 500 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,039 twenty fourteen, I think, or maybe even earlier twenty thirteen, 501 00:31:17,319 --> 00:31:20,400 don't really remember, and I'm sorry, but the movement really 502 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:25,880 gets going after the George Floyd killing and the day 503 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,599 that BLM became like a big story. I went to 504 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,119 their website and looked at what the issues were that 505 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,079 they cared about, because I wrote a note to my 506 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,920 neighborhood lisser about it, because they were encouraging everybody to 507 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:42,599 show solidarity with the BLM movement. And though the name 508 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,119 of the movement was Black Lives Matter, that was just one, frankly, 509 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,880 not very big part about it. It was very much 510 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:57,559 focused on trans issues and support for Palestinian activists, and 511 00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,799 I noted that, and also just instruction of the family unit. 512 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,279 The Claremont Institute has a very helpful database that I 513 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,359 encourage people to look at. It shows how corporations were 514 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:17,839 extorted to transfer one hundred billion dollars of wealth into 515 00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,599 BLM associated causes, which, as we just discussed, is not 516 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:28,200 just the DEI racial equity radicalism, but also support for hamas, 517 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,599 trans issues, destruction of the family unit, all that kind 518 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,519 of stuff. And every time, you know, there are all 519 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,839 these corporations that were engaged in the widespread suppression of 520 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:44,079 speech of conservatives over the last half decade or so, 521 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,680 and now they're a little bit scared because the regulatory 522 00:32:46,759 --> 00:32:51,000 environment is slightly different with Donald Trump being the president 523 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,160 and being so hostile to censorship of American speech and debate, 524 00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,359 and so they'll meet with you. And the first thing 525 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,599 I do is just look how much money did this 526 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,119 company transfer to the Democrat Party's causes and so, you know, 527 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,839 in the case of one that I met with today, 528 00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:12,519 it was one hundred million dollars and a lot of 529 00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:16,480 dough And it's a lot of subsidizing of trans radicalism. 530 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,480 And when you subsidize something, you get more of it. 531 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:26,480 And with every corporation wanting to do that, you know, 532 00:33:26,519 --> 00:33:29,240 it has very serious consequences. They're cutting off the healthy 533 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,079 body parts of children, They're encouraging some violent ideologies that 534 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,240 lead to dead kids, and so it's not nothing. You know, 535 00:33:36,279 --> 00:33:38,400 I think we should take it very seriously what these 536 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,480 corporations have done in their effort to frankly, you know, 537 00:33:41,599 --> 00:33:44,559 destroy a lot of the values that make this country great. 538 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: Now. I just don't think that people would care very 539 00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:52,880 much about this issue at all if one it weren't 540 00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,839 for a couple of things that's particular. One is the 541 00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:01,880 mutilation of children and the indoctrination of this. What I 542 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:06,720 would say is, like you say, a lie, anti science, 543 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:13,519 anti morality, anti anti decency, and taking confused children and 544 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:15,920 mutilating them for the rest of their lives. And the 545 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:20,079 second is encroaching on institutions that and spaces that women 546 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:24,760 have in the world, like women's sports, high school sports, 547 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:30,119 even younger professional sports. I thought it was interesting that 548 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,239 Malcolm Gladwell, who's were in a bunch of best selling books, 549 00:34:35,039 --> 00:34:37,800 was on a show about I think it was about 550 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,519 sports science or sports analytics and said that he had 551 00:34:41,519 --> 00:34:45,679 been ashamed of his performance on a panel from a 552 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,440 couple of years back twenty twenty two, where he had 553 00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:55,119 said that he believed transgendered athletes had a place in 554 00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:59,360 women's sports. He says, now, if you recreated that panel 555 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480 he was on, believes most of the people would say 556 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,400 that that was not true, that they had been cowed 557 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,960 into saying that I like this. I was, I believe 558 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,559 in retrospect in a dishonest way, being objective. I was 559 00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:15,119 being objective in a dishonest way. Don't exactly know what 560 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:21,679 that entails. But this is not a person leading the charge. 561 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,480 This as a person in the back end and the 562 00:35:23,519 --> 00:35:26,760 rear guard. Right. So I think that's good for society. 563 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,599 I think people say this is a tipping point because 564 00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:31,360 this is a new Yorker writer actual. I'm not sure 565 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,079 if he's there anymore, but was for a long time 566 00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:37,000 very best selling author. Do you think things have changed. 567 00:35:37,039 --> 00:35:39,639 Do you think it's temporary because Donald Trump's president, or 568 00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:42,559 if people come to their senses, or do people just 569 00:35:42,599 --> 00:35:44,280 travel in a mob and now they see that the 570 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,639 mob doesn't have the power anymore, that they can be 571 00:35:46,679 --> 00:35:47,519 honest about it. 572 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,760 Speaker 2: I was talking to Kennedy at Fox about this the 573 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:56,800 other day, and I think it's that Twitter was bought 574 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,719 by Elon Musk. So when you think back to the 575 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,360 ship industrial complex, I mean, the reason why people were 576 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,000 lying and saying that they believed men could become women 577 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:10,480 or vice versa was, in fact because it was an 578 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,039 in terms of a speech sense, an existential threat to 579 00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,679 you having a voice in the public square. Our own 580 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,880 John Davidson learned this because I think he tweeted out 581 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,079 a Babylon Bee story or something, or maybe he had 582 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:27,599 his own maybe just had a comment about that man 583 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,960 who was a public health official for Biden, Rachel Levine 584 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:36,400 I think was his name. He just accurately noted that 585 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,880 that was a man, not a woman, and so Twitter 586 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,760 said that in order for him to continue to use 587 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:45,679 their social media platform, he had to delete his tweet 588 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:48,559 he had a lie basically and falsely alleged that this 589 00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:52,480 person was a woman because he claimed to be a woman. 590 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,320 John refused, and so he lost his access to social 591 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:04,960 media for well over a year. And when Elon bought Twitter, 592 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,719 among the changes he made was that you could speak 593 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:13,800 truthfully about the trans issue. So every other social media company, 594 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,800 including the one I spoke to today, still requires you 595 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880 to lie, but because Twitter doesn't, or you know, in 596 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,280 some way maybe they've eased up a little bit on 597 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:29,400 the force of lying, but not completely. And Elon enabled 598 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,559 you to speak truthfully. And I think that was huge 599 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:36,719 because it does require, like for trans radicalism to work, 600 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:41,440 it requires censorship and suppression at an almost complete level. 601 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,920 But those of us who spoke out I think also 602 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:53,320 made a difference, meaning well, I don't I don't know 603 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,199 how much I should can or should say, but you know, 604 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,880 it takes courage to not do this, and you have 605 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:06,840 to be willing to lose jobs or face other serious repercussions. 606 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:09,239 And so those of us who did that I think 607 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,239 helped also. 608 00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,320 Speaker 1: Well, Like I have to say, just thinking back, my 609 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,920 policy was like initially when this first became an issue, 610 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,199 is that I would not concede that men could be 611 00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,360 women ever, but that I wouldn't go out of my 612 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960 way to kind of try to, like, you know, to 613 00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:29,920 be honest with you. I feel like it's a mild 614 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,599 form of mental illness, right, like you know, That's what 615 00:38:33,639 --> 00:38:35,599 I viewed it as, and that's what I view it now, 616 00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,320 and typically innocuous, right so when you're growing When I 617 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,559 was growing up, there'd be drag shows or whatever, and 618 00:38:40,599 --> 00:38:42,760 they were like kitchy, they weren't like serious. But I 619 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:49,000 think when people started with the pseudoscience and inflicting us 620 00:38:49,079 --> 00:38:52,960 with their quackery, I think then it was important to 621 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,119 start saying, hey, we can't you know, I can't be 622 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,519 nice about this anymore. I don't want to make people 623 00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:01,639 feel like, you know, I don't want people to be 624 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:05,280 targeted or hurt just because they are experiencing a mild 625 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,760 mental illness. But when you try to make that the 626 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,360 norm and inflict and invade schools and put you know, 627 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:18,239 girls in awkward positions or in dangerous positions, sometimes then 628 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,159 we can no longer be nice about the issues. So 629 00:39:20,159 --> 00:39:23,039 I can understand why people initially you aren't you know, 630 00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:25,440 years ago, weren't thinking about this. They thought it was 631 00:39:25,519 --> 00:39:27,760 just a rare thing that would never happen to them 632 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,760 before the contagion. Because when you look at the graphs 633 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,599 now over the past few years, you know, it's just 634 00:39:32,639 --> 00:39:36,119 taken off. It's a different story there is. 635 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 2: I also just kind of hate how we've lumped all 636 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:46,719 things gender bending into trans radicalism, meaning there is a 637 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,239 difference between drag and even cross dressing. I think, like 638 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,400 drag as an art form versus cross dressing as a fetish. 639 00:39:54,719 --> 00:40:02,000 There's a difference between autogiinophilia and legit gender confusion. I 640 00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,360 think auto gynophilia has not received the kind of critical 641 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,440 analysis that it should have received. And there are a 642 00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,280 lot of prominent men in DC who have this disorder, 643 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320 which is different than you know, a kid being like 644 00:40:15,519 --> 00:40:19,079 I don't feel like a girl. I want to do 645 00:40:19,159 --> 00:40:20,840 more boy stuff. You know, there's like a there's a 646 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,000 whole range of behaviors and mental postures here and we 647 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,920 lump it all into one and it's a little unfair 648 00:40:29,199 --> 00:40:29,559 for sure. 649 00:40:29,599 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: And I think there are many gay men who like 650 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,840 drag or whatever that don't think that way either. From 651 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:38,519 what I've seen. I don't like to get too deep 652 00:40:38,559 --> 00:40:41,639 into this topic because much expertise, but I will say 653 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,360 that there is. 654 00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:47,079 Speaker 2: And I just you had the funniest, albeit wrong view 655 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,320 on whether to use false pronouns for someone. Do you 656 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,719 remember this, No Oh, you said that if a man 657 00:40:56,519 --> 00:41:02,199 had you get seing like more than three, if you. 658 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,119 Speaker 1: Could fool me, if you could fool me, then I'll 659 00:41:04,119 --> 00:41:04,559 go with it. 660 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 3: Then you'll use the false You got to put. 661 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,079 Speaker 1: The effort in. That was my It's my. 662 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 3: Anyway, things get serious. 663 00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes, and yeah, you know, and it changes the calculus 664 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,199 and how we talk about things. I mean, this happens 665 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:22,159 with other issues as well. I wish I could have 666 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,400 forced like listen, I mean, I think that normal people 667 00:41:26,039 --> 00:41:28,880 try in this country more than they're given credit for 668 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,800 to make space for people who are who they view 669 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,840 as weird, right, Like, you know, it's not I think 670 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,239 that it actually is a good thing about our culture. 671 00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,519 We have a lot of people who aren't. You know, 672 00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:42,000 there's all kinds of people in this country. And I'm 673 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,559 not talking about colors and creeds. I'm just talking about 674 00:41:44,599 --> 00:41:46,719 things that they do and things that interest them and 675 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,519 the fetishes they have or so on. And I just 676 00:41:49,519 --> 00:41:52,400 think that we are letting, let let live and let 677 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,760 live in many ways, but there becomes a point where 678 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,559 you're you're now not letting other people live the lives 679 00:41:58,599 --> 00:42:00,800 they want, and that is that is a big problem, 680 00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,039 especially when it comes to children. From my view, the 681 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,559 things that are done to confuse children is just completely evil. 682 00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,400 I think that store to use there, that's the appropriate word, 683 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,760 and it needs to be stopped. Oh, can I just 684 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:15,199 one state intervention and cultural intervention. 685 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, one final thing on the Malcolm Gladwell thing. I'm 686 00:42:18,199 --> 00:42:21,480 genuinely glad that he has admitted his error and that 687 00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:25,079 he was bullied into saying false things through cowardice. Like 688 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,639 that's actually good for him to acknowledge, and it's good 689 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,719 the other people who have gone before him to do this. 690 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,000 You know, I have more respect for a Megan Kelly 691 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,079 who did it when it was still pretty pretty hot 692 00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:41,079 topic than for a Malcolm Gladwell, who's like now at 693 00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:43,880 the very end of you have to be pretty deranged 694 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,760 to be still committed to trans radicalism, and so now 695 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,320 he's joining. You know, there's like a variation there. But 696 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:53,280 I also think that people should note, they should notice 697 00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,199 who was bullied and who was not, And when there's 698 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,400 a pattern of being bullied, it should affect whether you 699 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,559 trust these people or not. And just by way of example, 700 00:43:03,639 --> 00:43:05,880 you know, I noticed that in the Year of Our 701 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,760 Lord twenty twenty five, the free press still uses false 702 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,840 pronouns for people. And yes, you are censored if you 703 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,599 speak truthfully, but if you don't have the courage to 704 00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:20,320 speak truthfully about biological reality, you probably don't have the 705 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,360 courage to speak truthfully about anything, right, So you have 706 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:29,159 to think through your own habits of who you pay 707 00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,639 attention to and who you listen to. You know, the 708 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:37,559 Dispatch made a very big show of hiring a middling 709 00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:43,159 economist who he's a man, who says he's a woman, 710 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,519 and they were like, we support this man, and of 711 00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,760 course they said, we support this woman, you know, and 712 00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,880 so like, maybe just pay attention to whether the Dispatch 713 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,960 is tru I mean, not like you need that to 714 00:43:53,039 --> 00:43:56,840 know that they have trouble, but just they lack courage, 715 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,159 and people who lack courage or not people that you 716 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,960 normally should pay a lot of attention to. 717 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,039 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about the middling economist part of 718 00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,199 that claim. I think the person's talented, but I get 719 00:44:10,199 --> 00:44:10,800 what you're saying. 720 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,480 Speaker 2: He's fine. 721 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,159 Speaker 4: Are more people learning how to game the system? 722 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:23,079 Speaker 5: The watch Dout on Wall Street podcast with Chris Markowski. 723 00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:25,960 Every day Chris helps unpack the connection between politics and 724 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:26,920 the economy and how. 725 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 1: It affects your wilet. 726 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 4: The Bureau of Labor Statistics reveal one point one million 727 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,679 Americans have become disabled in the last three months, over 728 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,199 two hundred thousand alone in July. Is America really as 729 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,840 disabled as the data shows? 730 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 5: Whether it's happening in DC or down on Wall Street, 731 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,199 it's affecting you financially. 732 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 1: Be informed. 733 00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,000 Speaker 5: Check out the Watchdot on Wall Street podcast with Chris 734 00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:49,079 Markowski on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts. 735 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:57,159 Speaker 1: Let's do culture enough with that other stuff. How to 736 00:44:57,159 --> 00:44:58,960 go this week for you? Culture wise? 737 00:44:59,679 --> 00:45:02,559 Speaker 2: Well, I've been busy once again and traveling a lot, 738 00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:06,079 so I have basically nothing to report. I was supposed 739 00:45:06,159 --> 00:45:09,400 to go see Spoon and the Pixies at Red Rocks 740 00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:14,880 last night, but it was something I dreamed of because 741 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,079 my husband's never been to Red Rocks and I just 742 00:45:17,079 --> 00:45:20,559 think it's one of the most wonderful concert venues in 743 00:45:20,639 --> 00:45:25,199 the world, and he loves of course, Spoon and the Pixies. 744 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,800 But then we couldn't make it because if we had 745 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,599 too much stuff with beginning of school year for the kids. 746 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 3: So that's what I. 747 00:45:33,199 --> 00:45:36,519 Speaker 1: Didn't thank you for letting us know what you didn't do. 748 00:45:37,159 --> 00:45:39,199 Speaker 2: He did go to a concert at wolf Trap that 749 00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:45,039 what is it Tadashi Trucks. You know that band Susan 750 00:45:45,079 --> 00:45:49,159 Tadashi and her husband something Trucks. He is a very 751 00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:50,639 good slide guitarist. 752 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:51,079 Speaker 1: I think. 753 00:45:52,199 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 2: Anyway, I didn't go to that, so I can't really 754 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,000 talk about that, And so my only cultural thing that 755 00:45:57,039 --> 00:45:58,920 I can talk about is that I am, for some 756 00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:03,599 reason watching a very bad Netflix show called Untamed. 757 00:46:04,559 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: Oh I watched a couple episodes. That's in the Yellowstone. 758 00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:11,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's in Yosemite, Yosemite. 759 00:46:11,159 --> 00:46:13,599 Speaker 2: Sorry, And I grew up near Yosemite and did a 760 00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:16,079 lot of camping in Yosemite and in fact also had 761 00:46:16,199 --> 00:46:20,280 so the premise is about like rampant crime in Yosemite 762 00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:25,320 and Federal Park Ranger Investigative Unit is looking into stuff. 763 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,800 And I had a really good friend growing up, or 764 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,199 my family did, who was a woman who's a park ranger. 765 00:46:31,239 --> 00:46:36,599 But was I think actually that or like FBI, but 766 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:42,159 was deployed as a park ranger and she was great, 767 00:46:42,679 --> 00:46:46,079 it should be good. It's an excellent cast. I mean 768 00:46:46,199 --> 00:46:48,679 the do you know who's in it? I'm very bad. 769 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,039 Speaker 1: I do Eric Bana, right, And who's the other guy's name? 770 00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:57,679 He's also but anyway, the two stars are both Oh 771 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:02,159 Sam Neils. I'm always like, why can't they find Americans 772 00:47:02,559 --> 00:47:05,119 to do these very American shows? But I mean, I'm 773 00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,880 fine with it. But as long as they ask, they're 774 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:08,360 very good. 775 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:12,559 Speaker 2: And the lady cop is particularly weak. 776 00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:15,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going to say I have a high 777 00:47:15,159 --> 00:47:18,159 tolerance for inane television shows, and I could not last 778 00:47:18,199 --> 00:47:19,719 more than an episode and a half. I was like, 779 00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,199 where is this going? Yosemite? I was there when I 780 00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,320 was younger. I thought was one of the most beautiful 781 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:30,079 places I'd ever been. I mean, just gorgeous. I don't 782 00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,800 even really think they give us a good enough taste 783 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,119 of the place on the show. They're always kind of 784 00:47:35,119 --> 00:47:37,440 on a cliff that probably doesn't exist. 785 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 2: Well, Mark said, it's all taped in Canada, and I mean, 786 00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:43,000 if Yosemite is a major part of it, they will 787 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:48,000 do these distant shots of El Capitan or Half Dome 788 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:51,840 or other well known Yosemite sites, but the actual filming 789 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,079 is not even in the good old United States of America. 790 00:47:57,159 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: They do a lot of the shows in Canada. Toronto's 791 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,320 always a stand in for New York. I think Vancouver 792 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,320 quite often is the place they do it. Probably we're Atlanta, right, 793 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,760 It's in Georgia, the other big place they do these shows. Yeah, 794 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,960 I did not enjoy that show, even though I think 795 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,800 I like Eric Bana or however you pronounced that Sam 796 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:23,519 Neil is always good? What I'm looking for my list? Sorry? 797 00:48:23,639 --> 00:48:27,679 Oh right here, I have two one show I really 798 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,760 actually I liked both of these shows quite a bit, 799 00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,239 and I would recommend both. The first that I really 800 00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:37,000 liked was called murder Bot, and it sounds really dumb, 801 00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:41,480 but it was excellent. And it's on Apple science fiction 802 00:48:41,679 --> 00:48:47,079 about this security robot who hacks its own system and 803 00:48:47,199 --> 00:48:49,639 just wants to be left alone. It's very funny. The 804 00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:55,079 story is good enough. Is a guy's name Alexander Scarsguard? 805 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:56,519 Do you know that is? 806 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,800 Speaker 2: I mean, is he related to all the other Scars Guards? 807 00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 1: Yes, he's the murder Bot and so it was really 808 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,760 well done. I enjoyed the whole thing. I would recommend it. 809 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,079 You know, it does have some violence and some slight 810 00:49:13,119 --> 00:49:16,119 sexual content in it. I shouldn't even say slight. They 811 00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:18,159 don't show anything. What they say things that if you 812 00:49:18,159 --> 00:49:20,840 have kids, you wouldn't want them to hear. The other 813 00:49:21,039 --> 00:49:24,159 show that I enjoy quite a bit, it's almost on 814 00:49:24,199 --> 00:49:26,920 the opposite end of the entertainment spectrum. I'd say it's 815 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:31,199 called Fisk. It's a show. It's an Australian kind of sitcom. 816 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:36,239 I would call it. It's comedy about a lawyer who 817 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:38,039 has gone through a divorce and starts up in a 818 00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:42,519 new place. Very funny. I think it's kind of mellow 819 00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:47,639 and just well done. I would recommend that as well. 820 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,360 That's all I have. It's all we have. It's light. 821 00:49:54,679 --> 00:49:58,880 It's light. If you'd like to reach the show, please 822 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,559 do so Radio at the Federalist dot com. We like 823 00:50:01,599 --> 00:50:02,239 to hear you. 824 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,239 Speaker 2: I just want to also say we had some really 825 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:09,480 good email this week, including people pushing back on some 826 00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:12,599 of our views, and I just love it, so please 827 00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:16,480 keep sending it in. Maybe not this week, but you know, 828 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:17,559 next week. 829 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. I did not enjoy the emails on Intel that 830 00:50:21,559 --> 00:50:23,920 push back against my position because I think they were wrong. 831 00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,519 But maybe we'll get into that ownership issue again, and 832 00:50:26,679 --> 00:50:30,119 we'll go through some of those points, but send your 833 00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:32,719 emails anyway. Maybe we'll talk about them, maybe we won't. 834 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,320 We'll be back next week, and until then, be lovers 835 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,880 of freedom and anxious for the friends. 836 00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 3: With love with you all, my brothers. 837 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:44,320 Speaker 5: A few