WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:01.840 Donald Trump rashing the economy. 2 00:00:01.879 --> 00:00:03.919 We're session looming. What happens next? 3 00:00:04.040 --> 00:00:06.559 Watch what happens will happen right here. 4 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.240 On fifty five KRC, the talk station. 5 00:00:11.880 --> 00:00:14.439 It's eight oh five five kr CD Talk Station. 6 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:19.879 Happy Wednesday, Extra Special Wednesday, the Our Power here with 7 00:00:20.359 --> 00:00:23.359 my next guest, Congress from Massi, follow by Judge Ennena Poulatana. 8 00:00:23.440 --> 00:00:25.559 Welcome back, Congress from Massi, and thank you to the 9 00:00:25.640 --> 00:00:29.079 voters and the Commonwealth of Kentucky for electing you over 10 00:00:29.120 --> 00:00:29.800 and over again. 11 00:00:29.839 --> 00:00:31.039 It's always good talking with you. 12 00:00:31.600 --> 00:00:34.880 Well, it's great talking with you. It's a little gloomy 13 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:38.520 here at the Capitol today. I'm in DC and we're 14 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:40.399 getting ready to do the work of the people. 15 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:43.759 Although I'm not sure it's going to be good work. Well, 16 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:45.479 I have been calling it and you can feel free 17 00:00:45.520 --> 00:00:48.679 to disagree with me. Our spending problem as an existential 18 00:00:48.719 --> 00:00:51.719 threat to our existence as a country. The way we 19 00:00:51.799 --> 00:00:54.159 rack up money and spend money, we are digging ourselves 20 00:00:54.159 --> 00:00:56.000 into a hole that we can never climb out of. 21 00:00:56.039 --> 00:00:58.439 The debt service on the national debts already a trillion 22 00:00:58.479 --> 00:01:01.439 dollars annually that is going to continue to erode the 23 00:01:01.479 --> 00:01:05.079 ability of government to fund and spend on literally everything else. 24 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:07.359 Each and every year it gets worse and worse. But 25 00:01:07.359 --> 00:01:11.879 we're on a trajectory to continue that downward slide. What 26 00:01:12.040 --> 00:01:14.560 is with I mean, Republicans have control here, and all 27 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:17.719 I keep reading about is well moderate Republicans, Republicans in 28 00:01:19.599 --> 00:01:22.400 questionable jurisdicity. They're worried about getting re elected, so they're 29 00:01:22.400 --> 00:01:24.400 afraid to cut this or that. Are they're afraid to 30 00:01:24.400 --> 00:01:26.640 get rid of the Green New Deal program because it's 31 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.120 in their in the backyard? Hey man, isn't it time 32 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:31.000 to rip the band aid off and quit worrying about 33 00:01:31.000 --> 00:01:32.920 your funny, blowny job and do what's right for the 34 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:33.879 future of America. 35 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:37.359 Congressman Massy, it is time to rip the band aid off. Look, 36 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:43.280 there's no bright line between freedom and socialism. It's kind 37 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.599 of a fuzzy line, okay, And I think you measure 38 00:01:46.640 --> 00:01:48.920 it in terms of how much does your federal government? 39 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:51.840 How much are your GDP does your federal government spend 40 00:01:51.879 --> 00:01:55.840 every year? If your government's taking away you know, thirty 41 00:01:55.840 --> 00:01:57.040 percent the federal government. 42 00:01:57.040 --> 00:01:58.599 I'm not even talking about state and local. 43 00:01:59.079 --> 00:02:01.840 If the federal government it's taking away thirty percent of 44 00:02:01.840 --> 00:02:05.920 your money and reallocating that we consider that socialism. That's 45 00:02:05.959 --> 00:02:08.599 about where most of the European countries have been for 46 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:12.639 several decades. And we've been at about twenty percent of GDP. 47 00:02:12.840 --> 00:02:16.400 That's been our federal spending. But what happened during COVID 48 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:18.800 is we popped up to thirty percent for a couple 49 00:02:18.800 --> 00:02:21.280 of years, one year under Trump and one year under Biden. 50 00:02:21.680 --> 00:02:25.120 I mean, these are socialist levels of federal spending. And 51 00:02:25.240 --> 00:02:28.240 the problem is it sort of stretched the balloon during 52 00:02:28.319 --> 00:02:31.599 COVID and it never went back to its original size. 53 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:34.520 For three or four years, we've been at twenty three 54 00:02:34.599 --> 00:02:39.560 percent of GDP is our federal spending. So you said, 55 00:02:39.800 --> 00:02:43.080 you know, use the word slipping slowly in decline or whatever. 56 00:02:43.159 --> 00:02:46.680 I think we are slipping into socialism because our level 57 00:02:46.719 --> 00:02:49.360 of spending, the amount of money we take from people 58 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.520 and reallocate to other people and businesses is twenty three 59 00:02:53.560 --> 00:02:56.879 percent at the federal level alone. When you roll in 60 00:02:57.120 --> 00:03:00.000 state and local, you're getting up close to forty percent 61 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:03.840 at depending on what state you live in, Which gets 62 00:03:03.840 --> 00:03:07.759 me to another point in this big beautiful bill here. 63 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:11.520 You know, normally I would say, look, if they put 64 00:03:11.520 --> 00:03:14.039 a bill in front of me that cuts taxes. I'm 65 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:17.800 going to vote for that because and then hopefully we'll 66 00:03:17.800 --> 00:03:20.520 get a bill that cuts spending later on. And that's 67 00:03:20.599 --> 00:03:25.319 been sort of myom for the first decade in Congress. 68 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:27.639 The problem is, they never give you the bill that 69 00:03:27.680 --> 00:03:33.400 cuts spending. We're not voting on DOGE, the Recisions Package. 70 00:03:33.840 --> 00:03:34.680 We were supposed to. 71 00:03:34.759 --> 00:03:38.039 Vote on that, and they quietly canceled all those votes. 72 00:03:38.479 --> 00:03:42.080 And so what I'm facing right now is this big, 73 00:03:42.120 --> 00:03:43.319 beautiful bill up here. 74 00:03:44.199 --> 00:03:45.199 It's got tax cuts. 75 00:03:45.240 --> 00:03:48.520 It's a grab bag of goodies for everybody, particularly the 76 00:03:48.520 --> 00:03:50.800 blue state Republicans that you just. 77 00:03:50.719 --> 00:03:52.800 Talked about that are crying about their next election. 78 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:57.280 They want their deduction for their house, the taxes on 79 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.199 their houses to go from ten thousand dollars to thirty 80 00:04:00.280 --> 00:04:01.080 thousand dollars. 81 00:04:01.280 --> 00:04:04.439 The salt if you yeah, the state and local tax. 82 00:04:04.479 --> 00:04:06.840 If you heard the word salt, that's an acronym for 83 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:10.000 state and local tax. Can you deduct it from your 84 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:11.000 federal taxes? 85 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:12.800 Well you you. 86 00:04:12.759 --> 00:04:16.160 Can right now up to ten thousand dollars. But you 87 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:18.319 know there's some big houses in New York, or the 88 00:04:18.360 --> 00:04:22.879 property taxes in California where you know they're they're literally 89 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.800 robbing them blind. In New York and California, they wanted 90 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:29.199 local taxes to be so high. So the Republicans there 91 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:30.879 are saying, well, we shouldn't have to pay as much 92 00:04:30.879 --> 00:04:34.720 federal tax as the people in Kentucky or Ohio since 93 00:04:34.720 --> 00:04:36.560 we got such a big local tax. 94 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:37.639 Well that's their fault. 95 00:04:38.160 --> 00:04:38.879 It is their fault. 96 00:04:38.920 --> 00:04:42.000 And my question is why should somebody in Kentucky pay 97 00:04:42.000 --> 00:04:45.120 a bigger portion of their income for the national defense 98 00:04:45.199 --> 00:04:48.240 to fund the national defense than somebody in New York does. 99 00:04:48.319 --> 00:04:52.160 Just because the governor or the local officials in New 100 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:55.160 York are taxing the crap out of you or California, 101 00:04:55.600 --> 00:04:56.680 you shouldn't pay different. 102 00:04:56.680 --> 00:04:59.120 We should all be paying for the national defense. 103 00:04:59.160 --> 00:05:02.920 You shouldn't get out of that obligation just because you 104 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:05.600 live in a high tax blue state. But you've got 105 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.199 Republicans up here arguing that they should get that deduction 106 00:05:08.600 --> 00:05:11.600 that's been put in this big, beautiful bill. So there's 107 00:05:11.600 --> 00:05:13.920 a grab bag of goodies in here. There's tax cuts 108 00:05:13.920 --> 00:05:17.040 for everybody. Normally, I'm for any tax. 109 00:05:16.800 --> 00:05:18.360 Cut that we can get. 110 00:05:19.079 --> 00:05:23.160 The problem is there's only one mechanism that's left to 111 00:05:23.240 --> 00:05:25.879 us now that they're not doing the recisions. The only 112 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:29.480 other mechanism to cut spending with only fifty one votes 113 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:32.439 in the Senate is the Big Beautiful Bill. It's called 114 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:39.600 Reconciliation Bill. And they're not cutting spending. They are increasing spending. Now, 115 00:05:39.920 --> 00:05:42.839 is it things I would spend money on? Yeah, the military, 116 00:05:43.079 --> 00:05:46.560 the wall, there's some you know, a dome. They're saying, 117 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:49.759 a golden dome for the United States. My question is, 118 00:05:49.759 --> 00:05:53.040 why don't we have that already. We've been funding it overseas. 119 00:05:54.000 --> 00:05:57.839 Not things. These aren't things that I'm against. The problem 120 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:03.360 is you cannot increase ending and cut taxes without affecting 121 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:06.439 our bond rating on the debt we already have. So 122 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.040 not only are they going to bring in new debt. 123 00:06:09.319 --> 00:06:13.160 That's and this Big Beautiful Bill adds three trillion dollars 124 00:06:13.199 --> 00:06:15.720 of new debt to what was already going to be 125 00:06:15.839 --> 00:06:18.959 fifty trillion dollars of debt ten years from now, will 126 00:06:19.000 --> 00:06:21.720 be at fifty two to fifty three trillion ten years 127 00:06:21.720 --> 00:06:24.240 from now. If this bill passes, where we cut taxes 128 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:25.600 and increased spending. 129 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:27.839 But not only does it do that, it's going to 130 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:29.279 send a signal to the bond. 131 00:06:29.079 --> 00:06:34.279 Markets and sovereign wealth funds from other countries that we're 132 00:06:34.319 --> 00:06:38.160 not serious about attacking our school issues or addressing them. 133 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:41.360 And they're going to say, you know what, four percent, 134 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.319 five percent, that's not enough. We're going to need six 135 00:06:44.360 --> 00:06:47.360 percent if we're going to buy your debt. So you're 136 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.279 going to take the legacy debt we have and as 137 00:06:50.319 --> 00:06:54.199 you so aptly you know, estimated a trillion dollars of 138 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:57.519 interest in the last year payments, that's going to go 139 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:01.959 to one and a half trillion something pretty soon. 140 00:07:02.839 --> 00:07:05.079 Well, and at some point you know that it's going 141 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:06.959 to result in the collapse of the FIA currency because 142 00:07:07.000 --> 00:07:08.439 we're gonna get to the point where we can't afford 143 00:07:08.480 --> 00:07:11.279 to pay that that service. I mean correct, that's the 144 00:07:11.319 --> 00:07:14.839 trajectory we are on right now. It's like they're fiddling 145 00:07:14.879 --> 00:07:17.000 while Rome is burning. It's like, well, screw it, it's 146 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.560 on fire. There's nothing we can do. We may as 147 00:07:18.600 --> 00:07:20.560 well have a party and go on to spending spree. 148 00:07:20.959 --> 00:07:22.439 And here's another thing. 149 00:07:23.639 --> 00:07:26.439 People say, oh, I agree with Massia on everything except 150 00:07:26.480 --> 00:07:28.839 some of his foreign policy, and he should be voting 151 00:07:28.879 --> 00:07:32.519 on these sanctions and he doesn't vote for sanctions. Guess what, folks, 152 00:07:33.279 --> 00:07:36.720 those sanctions are Every time we tell another country that 153 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:39.920 you can't trade in US dollars, we're. 154 00:07:39.759 --> 00:07:42.920 Actually damaging quite a. 155 00:07:42.040 --> 00:07:44.680 Quite a nice little scam the US government's got, which 156 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:49.160 is when we print money, as long as Iran and 157 00:07:49.240 --> 00:07:51.959 Russia are using US dollars, they have to hold US 158 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:55.800 dollars and we dilute them with inflation. Now, when we 159 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:58.800 tell them you can't use US dollars to transact in 160 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:04.439 a global economy, we are we're basic taking ourselves further 161 00:08:04.480 --> 00:08:07.839 and further away from being the standard, the worldwide standard 162 00:08:07.839 --> 00:08:10.360 for currencies. And then we don't get to do this 163 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.360 trick where we print money every year to pay our 164 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:18.279 debt service that they bought, okay, and and dilute their 165 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:21.199 holdings because they're no longer holding US dollars. So that's 166 00:08:21.240 --> 00:08:24.959 the other thing that's coming up, Brian, is not not 167 00:08:25.000 --> 00:08:26.720 only will they say we don't want to buy your 168 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.000 debt and then the price. 169 00:08:27.759 --> 00:08:30.399 Will go up because there'll be fewer bidders for our debt. 170 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:33.399 They're they're going to say, we're, well, you didn't let 171 00:08:33.480 --> 00:08:34.679 us hold US dollars. 172 00:08:34.720 --> 00:08:36.679 We're going to go to bricks or one of these 173 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:41.159 other you know, international standards for currency, and we don't 174 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:44.120 need the dollar and then quit holding dollars. We can't 175 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:47.559 dilute their holdings and we and you know, print our 176 00:08:47.600 --> 00:08:49.919 way out of this problem. Not that not that I'm 177 00:08:49.960 --> 00:08:52.080 saying that's a good thing. I'm just explaining how it 178 00:08:52.120 --> 00:08:54.320 works right now and why it hasn't collapsed already. 179 00:08:54.559 --> 00:08:57.679 Right Well, I mean this is something that every politician, 180 00:08:57.759 --> 00:09:01.639 elected official I think probably stands to some degree, although 181 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:03.799 we do have some morons in Congress who think, you know, 182 00:09:03.840 --> 00:09:08.679 guamkan capsize. But but that's what bothers me so much about. 183 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:11.840 You know, Okay, everybody needs to cut but me in 184 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:14.519 my state, and you know, I have corn farmers. Therefore, 185 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.679 I want the ethanol subs that to remain in place, 186 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:20.200 which is burning food in our engines, which is just dumb. 187 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:24.600 I mean, we don't need to burn ethanol in our cars. 188 00:09:24.759 --> 00:09:27.600 It's not environmentally correct. All the pollutants that go out 189 00:09:27.600 --> 00:09:30.120 into the world because of the farming industry, generally speaking, 190 00:09:30.279 --> 00:09:33.919 I think probably negate any plausible benefit. But we have 191 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:37.879 petroleum that we can refine into gasoline. This isn't like 192 00:09:37.919 --> 00:09:40.559 we need a substitute for gasoline because we've run out 193 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:43.799 of petroleum. It's just an outright subsidy of the farmers, 194 00:09:43.799 --> 00:09:46.360 and it's forcing on us something we probably wouldn't embrace 195 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.480 if we had free market choices. But there they are 196 00:09:49.559 --> 00:09:52.320 in Republican states demanding the ethanol subsidy remain. 197 00:09:53.440 --> 00:09:56.399 When you dedicate hundreds of thousands of acres in your 198 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.159 state to growing corn for ethanol, you were raising the 199 00:10:00.200 --> 00:10:03.080 least price of that land that somebody would use to 200 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:07.679 grow some other kind of food, or diverting corn that 201 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:10.360 would go into the food supply into some other thing, 202 00:10:10.399 --> 00:10:11.759 and you're raising the price of it. 203 00:10:11.919 --> 00:10:14.960 That's why farmers like ethanol. It raises the price of corn. 204 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:20.159 The problem is it's not a natural market demand for that. 205 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:23.679 There's a certain amount of ethanol that you can put 206 00:10:23.720 --> 00:10:27.480 into gas lane to improve the nock grating, but once 207 00:10:27.480 --> 00:10:30.480 you get past a certain amount, and oh, by the way. 208 00:10:30.360 --> 00:10:32.360 It reduces your gas mode, it does. 209 00:10:33.000 --> 00:10:36.759 It burns out your rubber diaphragms and your chainsaw carbon. 210 00:10:37.120 --> 00:10:40.639 Yeah, you can't use it as those small engine like 211 00:10:40.679 --> 00:10:42.080 for a two cycle for example. 212 00:10:42.759 --> 00:10:45.639 Yeah, what if the cost of all that was known 213 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:49.679 ethotol would be an even worse deal. But we shouldn't 214 00:10:49.679 --> 00:10:52.399 be subsidizing, And you're right, I was going to protest 215 00:10:52.480 --> 00:10:55.120 earlier when you said you got these blue state Republicans 216 00:10:55.159 --> 00:10:57.440 who want this, or that you got some red state 217 00:10:57.480 --> 00:11:01.759 Republicans you do want those ethanols. And they're from Iowa 218 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:09.039 and Wisconsin and Minnesota. I mean, they're my colleagues, and 219 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:13.879 they get very squeaky when somebody tras to take those 220 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:17.000 ethanol subsidies away in this But we should, yeah, we 221 00:11:17.000 --> 00:11:20.480 should repeal all the all the energy subsidies go back 222 00:11:20.519 --> 00:11:23.120 to free market. The thing, you know, the thing that 223 00:11:23.360 --> 00:11:26.480 Trump is doing that it's really helping the economy is 224 00:11:26.519 --> 00:11:30.080 to reduce regulations and let the free market, you know, 225 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:31.919 provide for our energy needs. 226 00:11:31.960 --> 00:11:34.159 Well, let the free market. And you know that's another 227 00:11:34.200 --> 00:11:38.360 reason all of the the Green New Deal programs should 228 00:11:38.360 --> 00:11:41.720 be repealed. Any subsidies going to a battery farm, wind farm, 229 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:46.159 solar panel farm, whatever it happens to be, should be repealed, period, 230 00:11:46.279 --> 00:11:46.879 end of story. 231 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:48.440 They're not in the market demand. 232 00:11:48.480 --> 00:11:50.600 If if if the market demanded them, there would be 233 00:11:50.600 --> 00:11:52.639 business and industry out there willing to create and build 234 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.120 them because people want them. This is something that's been 235 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:57.080 foisted on us. 236 00:11:57.879 --> 00:12:02.279 I've had two groups of lobbyists and they represent people 237 00:12:02.320 --> 00:12:05.360 in Kentucky, which is why I let them in my office. Okay, 238 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:11.120 two different companies who because of Biden's and AOC's Green 239 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:14.679 New Deal when they got it codified into the Inflation 240 00:12:14.879 --> 00:12:18.559 Reduction Act, which is irony and ironic. It didn't reduce inflation. 241 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.120 But because they said we're going to subsidize these battery plants, 242 00:12:22.720 --> 00:12:27.799 people made business decisions to expand in Ohio and Kentucky 243 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.799 and Indiana. And so I've got people from Kentucky, two 244 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.480 different companies. I'm not going to call them out who 245 00:12:34.919 --> 00:12:38.000 come to my office and say, you know, we want 246 00:12:38.039 --> 00:12:40.240 to see those battery subsidies remain. 247 00:12:41.320 --> 00:12:43.440 We made business decisions. 248 00:12:43.679 --> 00:12:48.039 And my thought is you should make business decisions based 249 00:12:48.080 --> 00:12:51.679 on things that make financial sense, not because of some 250 00:12:51.759 --> 00:12:55.000 government subsidies. And this is the risk you run when 251 00:12:55.000 --> 00:12:57.279 you think Joe Biden's going to get a second term, 252 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:00.840 so you double down on the on the non since. 253 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:05.399 You made a Oh look, you made a few business decisions. 254 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:06.080 Sucks to be you. 255 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:08.960 Let's pause. We'll bring Congress and Messy back a couple 256 00:13:09.000 --> 00:13:11.200 other topics. 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Chuck Ingram on fifty 289 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:45.440 five KR see the talk station. 290 00:14:46.679 --> 00:14:48.840 At about KRC City Talk station. By time was the 291 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:53.559 Congressman Thomas Massy going over the reconciliation Processor. Congressm Massy, 292 00:14:53.559 --> 00:14:55.759 I guess I got to ask you the direct question, 293 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.000 so I know the House can can cannot afford to 294 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:01.480 lose many people to a no vote on this. It's 295 00:15:01.480 --> 00:15:04.039 going to get shot down in flames given the margins, 296 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.879 and I guess Speaker Johnson is against it. He came 297 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:09.360 out with an op ed open letter to the public 298 00:15:09.360 --> 00:15:11.759 about why he's not in favor because it doesn't cut enough. 299 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:13.679 And I agree with him on that. Are you a no? 300 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:16.080 I'm not Speaker Ron Johnson. 301 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:18.879 Ron Senator Ron Senator, Senator Johnson. I apologize for that, 302 00:15:19.360 --> 00:15:24.039 but easy mistake to make. But Speaker Johnson's all in 303 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:25.039 on the on this thing. 304 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:29.039 Okay, Yeah, it's Ron Johnson, the Senator, and they don't, 305 00:15:29.080 --> 00:15:31.159 like you said, they don't have much margin over there. 306 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:33.240 I don't think Rand Paul's going to vote for it 307 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:35.639 because it also increases the that. 308 00:15:35.759 --> 00:15:37.360 Limit by four trillion dollars. 309 00:15:37.559 --> 00:15:39.080 Yeah, so where are you on it? 310 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:41.320 I'm a no right now. 311 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:42.919 That's kind of the way I figured, but I had 312 00:15:42.919 --> 00:15:45.799 to ask the question directly, so the tentative, No. 313 00:15:46.519 --> 00:15:50.120 There were we voted on two things already. That first 314 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.960 vote was a framework, a budget framework. It wasn't this bill. 315 00:15:54.320 --> 00:15:56.399 It just set up the conditions for this bill, and 316 00:15:56.440 --> 00:15:58.200 there were no guarantees that it was going to reduce 317 00:15:58.200 --> 00:16:00.320 the deficit. So I was the only republic and know 318 00:16:01.279 --> 00:16:05.080 and I say that the Freedom Caucus got half pregnant 319 00:16:05.279 --> 00:16:08.159 because they all voted for that framework, saying it's going 320 00:16:08.240 --> 00:16:12.240 to get better and denying that they were pregnant when 321 00:16:12.279 --> 00:16:15.480 they voted for that thing. Then the Senate sent over 322 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:17.759 a framework that was even worse now. They were told 323 00:16:17.759 --> 00:16:20.279 it would get better, but it got worse in the Senate, 324 00:16:20.360 --> 00:16:24.720 as things usually do, and they said, Okay, we'll vote 325 00:16:24.720 --> 00:16:26.919 for it this time, but we really mean it this time. 326 00:16:27.159 --> 00:16:29.120 This thing better reduced the deficit. 327 00:16:29.240 --> 00:16:31.639 So they got three quarters pregnant when they voted for 328 00:16:31.720 --> 00:16:35.879 the second framework, and it was myself and Victoria Sparts 329 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.360 were the only nos on that. And now this is here. 330 00:16:39.480 --> 00:16:42.039 The chickens are coming home to roost. This is the 331 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:45.639 final bill. And I think you've got conservatives who are 332 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:49.080 really torn. I think they're fully pregnant at this point. 333 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:50.759 I think they're going to have to vote for this 334 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:55.759 because they're worried about the president and other things. They 335 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:57.639 don't want to go to their voters and say this 336 00:16:57.679 --> 00:17:01.440 is irresponsible. Because here's the thing, Brian, this has new 337 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:04.759 money for a wall. Do you want to go back 338 00:17:04.799 --> 00:17:08.799 home and have somebody run against you and say he 339 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:11.720 voted against the big, beautiful bill that have money for 340 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:12.240 the wall. 341 00:17:12.720 --> 00:17:15.319 But as Donald Trump's demonstrated, we don't need any more 342 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:18.039 wall to stop the influx of humanity from coming across 343 00:17:18.039 --> 00:17:20.359 the border. He flipped the switch and it's stopped. 344 00:17:21.599 --> 00:17:24.680 And I know I'm not I'm not going to weigh 345 00:17:24.680 --> 00:17:26.839 in on that. I mean, but it's done a great job. 346 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:29.200 But it's a mere fraction of what's in this bill 347 00:17:29.279 --> 00:17:31.440 in terms of correct It doesn't. 348 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:32.480 In the TeV ads. 349 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:35.079 That's right, but you don't get to you don't get 350 00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.559 to defend the there's going to be tv. 351 00:17:37.440 --> 00:17:39.880 Ads, and so I know what they're going through. I've 352 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:40.839 been through it before. 353 00:17:41.200 --> 00:17:44.720 Look, every bill you vote against, every omnibus bill you 354 00:17:44.799 --> 00:17:47.440 vote against, probably has a pay raise for soldiers in it. 355 00:17:48.200 --> 00:17:51.039 And so they run ads back home saying you voted 356 00:17:51.039 --> 00:17:53.119 against the pay raise for soldiers. They don't tell you 357 00:17:53.160 --> 00:17:56.200 the rest of the bill is bankrupting the country and 358 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:58.119 that you would have gladly given a pay raise to 359 00:17:58.160 --> 00:18:00.759 soldiers if it had been a separate vote on a 360 00:18:00.799 --> 00:18:02.680 separate bill. 361 00:18:02.759 --> 00:18:05.720 And so there's so much stuff. 362 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:09.400 In this big, beautiful bill that I think people are good, 363 00:18:09.440 --> 00:18:14.119 stuff that people are afraid and if they vote against 364 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:17.279 it because it's fiscally irresponsible. I mean, this is the 365 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:20.240 most fiscally irresponsible thing you can do, Brian. It is 366 00:18:20.400 --> 00:18:24.240 to increase spending by hundreds of billions of dollars and 367 00:18:24.279 --> 00:18:27.960 cut taxes by trillions of dollars over the next ten years. 368 00:18:28.759 --> 00:18:30.960 It is not fiscally responsible. 369 00:18:31.079 --> 00:18:33.319 Well that's why I say, rip the band aid off 370 00:18:33.359 --> 00:18:35.400 and suck it up. If they run against you on 371 00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:39.279 these little tiny fractions of part of the bill and 372 00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:42.079 they're successful at it, fine, they're successful at it. But 373 00:18:42.119 --> 00:18:44.000 the meantime, you did the right thing on behalf of 374 00:18:44.000 --> 00:18:46.359 the American people and save the country from itself, which 375 00:18:46.359 --> 00:18:48.559 is a bunch of politicians who are worried about having 376 00:18:49.079 --> 00:18:52.440 a single issue add impacting the potential for them to 377 00:18:52.440 --> 00:18:55.319 get re elected. I mean, it's the writing on the 378 00:18:55.319 --> 00:18:55.960 walls there. 379 00:18:56.920 --> 00:19:00.400 But here's my take. Voters are adults. 380 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:03.799 I think if you have an adult conversation with your 381 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:08.400 voters and explain all of your votes like I try 382 00:19:08.400 --> 00:19:11.319 to do, and tell people what's really in these bills, 383 00:19:11.960 --> 00:19:15.519 that they will send you back to Congress because you've 384 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:20.000 developed a level of trust. And that is what I 385 00:19:20.039 --> 00:19:22.400 am trying to do here. I'm on your show explaining 386 00:19:22.519 --> 00:19:26.240 why this is this is irresponsible a force to vote on, 387 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:29.319 and I'll take a lot of heat for being no. 388 00:19:29.720 --> 00:19:34.720 I'll take a lot of heat from all sides, but 389 00:19:35.039 --> 00:19:40.000 I can't in good conscience drive this country off a 390 00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.839 fiscal ledge into the ravine. 391 00:19:43.039 --> 00:19:45.960 There you go, and that's why you keep getting re elected. 392 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:49.400 Congress and Thomas MESSI, you speaking truth to power right 393 00:19:49.440 --> 00:19:51.640 there here on the fifty five Casey Morning Show. Congresson 394 00:19:51.680 --> 00:19:54.119 MESSI always enjoy having you on, appreciate your willingness to 395 00:19:54.240 --> 00:19:57.079 be open and honest with your constituents, and my listening 396 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:00.519 audience and the vast majority of which really truly appreciates 397 00:20:00.559 --> 00:20:02.519 what you're doing. So keep up the great work, my friend. 398 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:04.160 I'll look forward, as I always do, to having you 399 00:20:04.200 --> 00:20:05.400 back on the program real soon. 400 00:20:05.880 --> 00:20:07.880 Thanks brother Tail. To Judge, I said, Hi. 401 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.880