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Speaker 1: kenn Even what the fuck going on tonight?
Speaker 2: Shout out to everybody who's made it another week. We
Speaker 2: know the world to other shit, but you still got
Speaker 2: to live like like you gotta go to work tomorrow,
Speaker 2: even if we're in the middle of an apocalypse, even
Speaker 2: if your core keeps cutting on every time you do
Speaker 2: it exactly when you notice it ain't stop shit And
Speaker 2: I did it. Yeah, man, it was a slow news week,
Speaker 2: but that's because we're in the middle of the dead
Speaker 2: off season. Like it's gonna pick back up in two weeks. Sure,
Speaker 2: training camps start in less than thirty days and Media
Speaker 2: Media Day for college football starts in July. I'll be
Speaker 2: in Texas for Big twelve media day the eighth and
Speaker 2: the ninth, might get there seventh, I don't know. Probably
Speaker 2: just going to try to get there that morning because
Speaker 2: I don't need to spend the day.
Speaker 1: Before or five more time. And it was just that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be in Texas for a week. But whatever.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the shoutout Tuck was pretty Thunder for
Speaker 2: winning the NBA championship. Is really shitty that Halliburton popped
Speaker 2: his achilles towards Achilles, But honestly, see how they make
Speaker 2: sure of the villain.
Speaker 1: If you're not being enough of a villain.
Speaker 2: How do how do you make the league MVP the
Speaker 2: villain when he has no criminal record? He got traded
Speaker 2: on Draft night. This is all Paul George's fault. If
Speaker 2: you want to blame anybody for Halliburton's injury and everybody
Speaker 2: who popped the achilles, this is all Paul George and
Speaker 2: his stupid ass podcast fault. You can literally blame the
Speaker 2: Thunder winning a championship on Paul George, Draymond Green and
Speaker 2: who else you want to name the Mavericks, the Dallas Mavericks,
Speaker 2: You know and the Spurs, you know, Adam Silver because
Speaker 2: the Spurs getting all this talent they set up capital.
Speaker 1: Was on the floor every time Dame Justin or Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum yep, and like like three other dule toward their achilles.
Speaker 1: I think he was on the floor when.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's not He's not ever beating the Chargers.
Speaker 2: After they did that prayer game six and his eyes
Speaker 2: rolled in the back of his head. That shit was
Speaker 2: kind of demonic, bro, Like, you're never beating those allegations.
Speaker 1: And you the.
Speaker 2: Crazy thing is they took that man off the floor
Speaker 2: and he had zero files in game seven, I'd be like,
Speaker 2: that's the time he get ejected. Bro. Shout out to O'Connell.
Speaker 2: Though that kid put that dude balled out. He earned
Speaker 2: himself a fat pay day down the line.
Speaker 1: I'm not evenna lie. I didn't even watch any of
Speaker 1: the NBA playoffs that the Clippers lost, we know, but
Speaker 1: a former Race said they said Game six was one
Speaker 1: of the most watched games ever. But they also said
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the series, like the first two
Speaker 1: or three games were like some of the lowest watch ever.
Speaker 1: And it didn't help that the NBA had a fucking
Speaker 1: sail in the middle of the finals with the Lakers
Speaker 1: finally admitting their broke boys and selling to Proteck, the
Speaker 1: group that owns the Dodgers, which was big news out
Speaker 1: here in LA for sure, just because man La Laker
Speaker 1: fans finally admitted that the family money was holding them back,
Speaker 1: but they just weren't.
Speaker 2: I think it's good for the Lakers though overall. But
Speaker 2: so when Lebron becomes partner, you had that, and then
Speaker 2: somebody else got traded.
Speaker 1: It's been bang got traded during the finals. Somebody else
Speaker 1: got traded to.
Speaker 2: Porzingis got traded to the OKD got traded during the finals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean yeah, so that's wild. And Porzingia's got
Speaker 1: traded like the dead after to the to the can't
Speaker 1: get out of its own damn way.
Speaker 2: Looky, the Hawks are kind of nice with that roster.
Speaker 2: They have now that for like four years. No, but
Speaker 2: like they actually look like we've been saying that for
Speaker 2: like four years. But they're the Hawks. The Hawks.
Speaker 1: They just find a way to be the Hwks bro
Speaker 1: the expectations. I got a homie from the Nabjo's been
Speaker 1: binging the table for the Hawks for like five years, Bro,
Speaker 1: stop stop hitting the table. So they're gonna be No,
Speaker 1: they're not.
Speaker 2: If they didn't do ship after they won like seventy
Speaker 2: games or sixty nine games one year and Kyle kover
Speaker 2: shipped the bed in the playoffs, it's never happening, Atlanta Hawks,
Speaker 2: It's never happening. Dominique wilkins son looks like the truth.
Speaker 2: Though Dominic Wilkins can say whatever he wants. He was
Speaker 2: at one point some jamming bro at one point his
Speaker 2: son was. At one point Dominique.
Speaker 1: Is like head over the fucking rim, just fucking jamming
Speaker 1: on ship Bro, like fucking sixteen bro.
Speaker 2: At one point, crazy Dominique Wilcoms was better than what
Speaker 2: people well, he's what BRONI, He's what.
Speaker 1: People want Brownie to be. Brownie was never even that
Speaker 1: athletic exactly, and it's only like sixty six and ship.
Speaker 2: Bryce is more athletic than Bronnie, and everybody's saying Bryce
Speaker 2: won't even make it, which is crazy because I remember
Speaker 2: the dick eating like and everybody was like, you know,
Speaker 2: Brownie's gonna be. Brownie has a better offensive bag. I
Speaker 2: know Bryce is a better offensive bag than Brownie. It's
Speaker 2: not even close he does. It's not even close. So
Speaker 2: I'm like, why are y'all sating? Y'all went from just
Speaker 2: because he's walking on at Arizona when he probably could
Speaker 2: have got a skylarship anywhere else. The kick but some
Speaker 2: of the some of these just top flat propects out
Speaker 2: of high school. Don't listen like you're really not that guy.
Speaker 2: Go to like the Big West and become the greatest
Speaker 2: player in school history in the Big West, and then
Speaker 2: you become that guy. Let's just look at Halliburnen bro
Speaker 2: going and trying to be a twelfth man in Arizona,
Speaker 2: get no burn, and then you transfers some white bitch. Wow,
Speaker 2: that was a lot. I mean, I wasn't gonna go
Speaker 2: straight to just white bitch. I was gonna say just
Speaker 2: a thought. But you know, wow, my bad, Like you
Speaker 2: jump the gun. No, you just jump the gun like
Speaker 2: you don't start a white bitch. You just say, oh,
Speaker 2: you're gonna get pregnant by a thought and she got
Speaker 2: more money than you, and then you're just gonna be
Speaker 2: that broke boy. You're just gonna be like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you'll change. Like we know what's Brodley's most viral moment,
Speaker 2: you'll change fake. That's his most of our moment, not
Speaker 2: him being on the court with his father and then
Speaker 2: never anything mean, y'r chang fake. But anyway, Dominie Wilkins
Speaker 2: at one point was better than Jordan from what the
Speaker 2: old heads tell me.
Speaker 1: He was that crazy.
Speaker 2: He was that like he was He's going head to
Speaker 2: head with Jordan at one point, like that's that's what
Speaker 2: I've heard. That's Cannon apparently with the old doc with
Speaker 2: old I think this is a thirty for thirty on
Speaker 2: Dominique Wilkins too. But yeah, he just he was like
Speaker 2: Paul George, but with way less flash he wasn't. No,
Speaker 2: Paul George was nowhere near as nice as a Dominique Wilkins.
Speaker 2: And I didn't forget about all that shit y'all talking
Speaker 2: about Kobe and what Trace McGrady said and Jim Jones.
Speaker 2: I'm just holding my anger and vitory all towards the
Speaker 2: end of the show. This is gonna be a very
Speaker 2: peaceful opening to the show. But let's get back to football,
Speaker 2: because you know we talked that's what touchdowns intense it is.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers said he's gonna retire. This is gonna be
Speaker 2: his last season.
Speaker 1: This is it.
Speaker 2: No, Michael Jackson, Like, this is literally it for him,
Speaker 2: and at forty two and twenty one years in, I mean,
Speaker 2: it would be crazy if he let them to a playoff. Birth.
Speaker 1: I just think it's dumb that he's doing this whole
Speaker 1: last Dance thing because it's like signing the last Dance bro.
Speaker 1: It's like the Paul Pierce retirement tour.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that wasn't even though he is one of the
Speaker 2: greatest quarterbacks of all time, he's top five exactly what
Speaker 2: it is, he's top five.
Speaker 1: I just think, what if they actually get closed, Like
Speaker 1: what if they actually do make it to the second
Speaker 1: or third round of the playoffs and he can go
Speaker 1: out with his head with his head one year with Pittsburgh,
Speaker 1: that's it.
Speaker 2: Like, had one of the best seasons in Jets history.
Speaker 2: You're twenty eight touchdowns and eleven paces. I'm saying a
Speaker 2: lot for J's QB history. Twenty eight and eleven. I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that's bad now when I say that, Okay,
Speaker 2: but when I say that and you're like, Joe name
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest ever, No, he wasn't.
Speaker 1: Literally not he was. He's literally not.
Speaker 2: He's running back literally came back against one of the
Speaker 2: greatest raider teams ever. That's cool, that's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 2: He earned the spot Hall of Fame. One of the
Speaker 2: greatest played right now.
Speaker 1: Also, the quarterbacks have to do kind of a lot less, now,
Speaker 1: can we be honest? You just got to get the
Speaker 1: He's not better than Jim Plunket. Let's really talk about it.
Speaker 1: Let's know, let's get that ship on the floor. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna tell me Joe Naming is better than Jim Plunket.
Speaker 1: You're smoking crack, my boy? Did you so?
Speaker 2: Jim Plunkett just doesn't ever to be in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame, alright?
Speaker 1: Cool?
Speaker 2: I ever said that? Man, I never said that. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying now, people, I'm saying you were the You're
Speaker 2: the main person that I know who was ready to
Speaker 2: flare ship up and kicks ship off at every tailgate
Speaker 2: over Jim Plunking now being in the Hall of Fame,
Speaker 2: and it's just weird now.
Speaker 1: Be in the Hall of Fame. He better than johnamon
Speaker 1: I mean, we gotta stop gashing.
Speaker 2: Brett Farve was better than Joe Namath. I mean, statistically,
Speaker 2: maybe no better, was I don't know what the fucking jets.
Speaker 2: I think you need to understand, Joe.
Speaker 1: That's like wearing the Michelin Star with fucking McDonald's. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, that's like winning a fucking Michelin star.
Speaker 1: McDonald's better than Cam Newton.
Speaker 2: What are you talking about Cam Newton?
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, if you're playing Cam Newton, probably Cam
Speaker 1: Newton won.
Speaker 2: An m v B Great Player m v P. No,
Speaker 2: he was fucking mid. He was like worse than Eli.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You weren't even watching football back then, So how are
Speaker 1: you gonna say that so definitively network I literally doesn't
Speaker 1: mean how.
Speaker 2: Much you know what.
Speaker 1: Watching watching?
Speaker 2: Hey, he was not that nice, bro. Like I'll be
Speaker 2: watching some of these old players and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: this dude was not that nice. Like amongst his peers,
Speaker 2: he was not that nice. Now is he one of
Speaker 2: the swaggiest people ever to play on sport? Joe Namath
Speaker 2: to the petticoat and the mink coat. Yes, he punched
Speaker 2: his ticket to the Hall of Fame just on Or alone.
Speaker 2: Don't get to twisted. He's first team all or. Tom
Speaker 2: Brady could never if you said Tom Brady and Prime
Speaker 2: Joan Tom honestly, Kenny Stabler, Joe Namath, those two should
Speaker 2: have had a buddy cop series that was fumbled. I
Speaker 2: wish that would have been done when they were both alive,
Speaker 2: Like that would have been god t here, imagine partying
Speaker 2: with Joe Namath and Kenny Stabler. Okay, this is a
Speaker 2: fucking tangit. We don't even need to get on I know.
Speaker 2: I just felt like I needed to say that.
Speaker 1: Just You've been saying the same shit for fucking twenty years.
Speaker 1: It's not a unique take, bro. You can go anywhere
Speaker 1: on Raiders Twitter and find exactly what the you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I just felt like I needed to hang out. I
Speaker 2: just need to put point. We need to be playing
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. But yeah, we just talk
Speaker 2: about old quarterbacks. But yeah, Rogers is top five all
Speaker 2: time quarterbacks just on his ability and he should have
Speaker 2: had more championships. But I feel like people punish him
Speaker 2: because all the teams he played on choke but that
Speaker 2: necessarily wasn't his fault.
Speaker 1: But anyway, moving on to the news of the day,
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker caught a ten game suspension for the nastiest
Speaker 1: around his massage affairs.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's in the middle of a divorce.
Speaker 2: It's not going great for that man.
Speaker 1: Man, just two years ago, he was sitting high. One
Speaker 1: of the greatest kickers of all time. Life comes at
Speaker 1: you fast, one.
Speaker 2: Of the greatest kickers of all time, arguably the greatest
Speaker 2: kicker of all time.
Speaker 1: Isn't that more? Isn't that more games than Deshaun Watson. God, yes,
Speaker 1: didn't get like seven, Yes, DeShawn had Waim Moore allegations.
Speaker 2: Yes, but I mean, allegations are one thing.
Speaker 1: But Shawn gotta guaranteed record setting contract, Yeah, which the
Speaker 1: league colluded against.
Speaker 2: But I can't talk about that exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, uh yeah, the other news of the week
Speaker 1: that probably got buried by fucking whatever bullshit was going
Speaker 1: on in the news cycle. Uh yeah. So the NFL
Speaker 1: nfl PA basically went to court. NFLPA alleged that the
Speaker 1: NFL colluded to uh fight against guaranteed contracts, basically saying
Speaker 1: after Deshaun Watson got his guaranteed contract, there was text
Speaker 1: message threads, email exchangers just saying like, hey.
Speaker 2: We're not doing this, like this is not the standard.
Speaker 1: This is not like this is not going to continue,
Speaker 1: like this is the outlier and the nfl PA won
Speaker 1: and they didn't tell anyone. So yeah, if huge labor
Speaker 1: tree falls in the middle of the forest and no
Speaker 1: one's there to hear it, you may or may not
Speaker 1: hear about it on your favorite podcast or some random
Speaker 1: sports media radio show. The point is NFL was found
Speaker 1: guilty of colluding against their union, against their players, their workforce,
Speaker 1: and the union that won didn't even say anything, which
Speaker 1: they should have. We should be talking about how this
Speaker 1: could kind of pave way to the NFL getting guaranteed
Speaker 1: money for one through fifty three, but instead that the
Speaker 1: union and organization is so poor they don't even want
Speaker 1: to own the fact that they won something that could
Speaker 1: be a landmark preston. Instead, the NFL just kind of
Speaker 1: dropped the news on a Wednesday and hope that no
Speaker 1: one talked about it, and for the most part, it
Speaker 1: kind of happened. So yeah, we'll see what happens with
Speaker 1: that whole situation, because you know, the NBA got guaranteed money,
Speaker 1: the MLB has guaranteed money. They're even doing deferred money now,
Speaker 1: so NFL NFLPA gotta get it together. And then the
Speaker 1: other news of the day, which Kenny Kennon talk about
Speaker 1: is Todd Bowles getting an extension with the Buccaneers GM
Speaker 1: Jason Lynch, like Jason, like Bets gets a new They
Speaker 1: both get contract extensions headed into the new season.
Speaker 2: Thoughts on that, Kenny, excellent and I'm glad Todd Bowles
Speaker 2: is living his best life in his finally getting a
Speaker 2: fair shot with the Buccaneers.
Speaker 1: What happens when you give black coaches a second chance.
Speaker 2: And actually let them build up a staff. And shout
Speaker 2: out to Bruce Arians, who should be in the Hall
Speaker 2: of Fame as a contributor somehow because he is literally
Speaker 2: I mean whatever you want about the whole ab situation,
Speaker 2: but this man has put black people and women in
Speaker 2: positions better than Belichick ever did. And almost think of
Speaker 2: all the greatest coaches of all time, think about their
Speaker 2: coaching tree, some of it is trash. Coaching tree is
Speaker 2: kind of trash. Look at a dude who became a
Speaker 2: head coach, won the Super Bowl, achieved almost everything you
Speaker 2: could possibly do, and then he just got the fuck
Speaker 2: out the way. So salutor Bruce Arians for really being
Speaker 2: an ally. Tod Bowles is looking like he has the
Speaker 2: Buccaneers ready. The Buccaneers have been that's the deepest their
Speaker 2: receiving corps has ever been in life. Like they have
Speaker 2: like three first round picks, two first round picks, and
Speaker 2: four dudes who could get a thousand yards, So salute
Speaker 2: to them. And everything they're doing in Tampa Bay Bowls
Speaker 2: is proven, Like, yes, my defense is not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: I have an offense. We got our franchise, QB and
Speaker 2: Baker and we're rocking. And honestly, because in the NFC South,
Speaker 2: you could just never fire this dude. He could just
Speaker 2: make you an habitual division winner or division whatever every
Speaker 2: year because you can't keep affording to fire good coaches
Speaker 2: in this league. Like some of the new guys are
Speaker 2: gonna wash out, but if you look at that division, Kellamore,
Speaker 2: brand new, David Canalas Jury still out. Shout out to
Speaker 2: the El Camino College alum Hopkins are rocking under Raheem Morris,
Speaker 2: so a two black coach, you got a second chance.
Speaker 2: Shout out to Atlanta, Shout out to Tampa Bay the
Speaker 2: one thing Florida does right.
Speaker 1: On football.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, uh, this double A's coming. As far as
Speaker 2: the game talked about paying more people, but so Britt Beelama,
Speaker 2: head coach at Illinois, who just really has that program
Speaker 2: doing great things. He talked about how it started running
Speaker 2: back got poached away to Georgia, and Georgia has enough talent.
Speaker 2: It's kind of crazy that they just keep getting away
Speaker 2: with that. But he talked about how, like, yeah, schools
Speaker 2: are just outbidding me to keep my players and it's
Speaker 2: not fair and it's not right, and a lot of
Speaker 2: illegal things are being done, and obviously, like you know,
Speaker 2: the kids are gonna choose what's best for them, but
Speaker 2: the schools are doing schools are doing this and then
Speaker 2: complaining that, you know, oh I can't keep this, like
Speaker 2: this is bad, but like you're actively doing the thing
Speaker 2: that you're complaining about, which is kind of crazy to me,
Speaker 2: and I'm glad that he, like other coaches have said it.
Speaker 2: Colorado State's head coach Mike Norrell talked about it, how
Speaker 2: you know, their quarterback and the receiver were offered collectively
Speaker 2: almost two million dollars to leave, so god knows what,
Speaker 2: Like one day, Geny's gonna say how much he got
Speaker 2: offered to leave Boise and that's gonna make people go crazy.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, that's that's becoming an ever present issue
Speaker 2: college football. And again media days are coming up, so
Speaker 2: it's gonna be all next month the SEC wherever. The
Speaker 2: SEC's problem is they keep fighting for power to control
Speaker 2: like automatic seeds and everything for the playoffs, thus creating
Speaker 2: a shittier playoffs. So they're hyping that up. Also, B,
Speaker 2: why you landed a five star QB Rider Lions? He
Speaker 2: was originally committed to SE Sacramento State was looking at him,
Speaker 2: but his brother is a tight end at USC Walker Lions,
Speaker 2: and he announced on the Pat McAfee show that he's
Speaker 2: committed to be Why you he committed over He committed
Speaker 2: to be while you over Oregon, USC all missing a
Speaker 2: bunch of other schools. So now, B, why you are
Speaker 2: taking five star qbs? But how many five stars have
Speaker 2: panned out at BYU? So it's but he's from fullsome
Speaker 2: top five. He's the fifth overall player in California, so
Speaker 2: you know, it's kind of interesting. And he's you put
Speaker 2: up great stats at Fallsom High School, So I think
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very interesting to see, B. Why you're
Speaker 2: not going anywhere? They almost want a big twelve Championship,
Speaker 2: also the n C Double A.
Speaker 1: They're de betting.
Speaker 2: They're debating changing some rules on betting. They might uh
Speaker 2: bustly letting players and staff bet on pro sports, but
Speaker 2: it's not like fully uh sold. But it's like it's
Speaker 2: a thirty five person council and there they're definitely talking
Speaker 2: about considering betting people bet on sports because currently staffers,
Speaker 2: athletes and staffers are barred from betting on all sports.
Speaker 2: But like, is it fair that a kid can't bet
Speaker 2: on the World Series? He's a D one player, Like
Speaker 2: why can't he bet? Why can't she bet? They're not
Speaker 2: point shaving in their sport. I'd say, if you say
Speaker 2: you can't bet on your sport, I get it. But
Speaker 2: if you're gonna say these kids are.
Speaker 1: What you're saying, I mean, I think where he gets
Speaker 1: lost is kind of where the money's coming from, because
Speaker 1: a lot of it is from nonprofits and booster clubs
Speaker 1: and teams that are getting money from public sources. So
Speaker 1: I get wanting to limit it. And some of these
Speaker 1: folks are under twenty one, which is under the legal age,
Speaker 1: so I get that part of it too, And some
Speaker 1: states have different It's just because just in general, I mean,
Speaker 1: the gambling thing is just a mess because over half
Speaker 1: the states have some sort of legal sports gambling in
Speaker 1: place at the current moment, but it really varies from
Speaker 1: state to state. Some of them are state operated, meaning
Speaker 1: there's only one casino and they're all the same. Some
Speaker 1: of them employ a more free market based economy or
Speaker 1: select oligopoly where there's only a certain handful amount of operators.
Speaker 1: Some of them are being deployed through the current channels
Speaker 1: they have, such as Indian casinos or you know, existing
Speaker 1: gaming entities.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's just kind of a mess from place
Speaker 2: to place.
Speaker 1: So that's why it's hard to say, yeah, all athletes
Speaker 1: should do it or all athletes shouldn't do it, because
Speaker 1: we can't even determine if it's legal federally. I mean,
Speaker 1: California in one place where a lot of people are
Speaker 1: betting either you know, offshore, you know, through subways, on
Speaker 1: the internet, or they're you know, playing DFS, which is
Speaker 1: basically the same thing, be a prize picks, underdog sleeper,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And yet we can't even legalize it just
Speaker 1: because of the nuances between what the Indian Gaming Act allows,
Speaker 1: you know, tribal tribes to get versus what we've allowed,
Speaker 1: you know, other gaming entities to get through through games
Speaker 1: of skill and things of that nature. So it's a
Speaker 1: very complex issue. It's not as simple as just saying, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, college athletes should be able to bet or
Speaker 1: should not be able to bet, much much more complicated
Speaker 1: than that. Also, Deon Sanders, he's recovering from some er
Speaker 1: health issues. He's been away from Colorado for a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks now almost a month, So we're gonna keep
Speaker 1: coach prime coach.
Speaker 2: Sanders in his prayers. It's crazy. One of the greatest
Speaker 2: athletes of all time to ever exist in anything, and
Speaker 2: his health is deteriorated so fast. Like how many athletes
Speaker 2: that we've seen that we're nowhere near as good as
Speaker 2: Dion out there with perfectly healthy bodies, their feet work,
Speaker 2: everything's fine.
Speaker 1: But Dion w great Like they're not. They don't have
Speaker 1: the same kind of hype and juice this year. Are
Speaker 1: they gonna be good? Is he gonna make it through
Speaker 1: the year? Is he gonna be there another year? Like, honestly,
Speaker 1: we don't know.
Speaker 2: They're probably they're definitely gonna take a step back. Offensively,
Speaker 2: you don't lose Travis, and even just the PR machine
Speaker 2: just feels like you don't have the same juice.
Speaker 1: No, they do.
Speaker 2: It's just been quiet, That's what I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying, Liberty. They never quiet like that.
Speaker 2: Big told me is gonna be interesting. If he doesn't
Speaker 2: show up at Big twelve media day, I know something's wrong.
Speaker 2: Doesn't show up at Big twelve media day, and he
Speaker 2: lives in Texas, something's wrong. But but yeah, with that,
Speaker 2: there's also two more things, uh USC or not USC.
Speaker 2: The PAC twelve got Texas State to leave the sun Belt.
Speaker 2: So now Texas State is officially joining.
Speaker 1: The PAC twelve. That's interesting. Okay, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I really think. Go for no judgment. So they're just
Speaker 1: gonna be the third team, or they're joining with all
Speaker 1: the other teams in a couple of years.
Speaker 2: They're joining in like twenty twenty six or whatever. So
Speaker 2: that's what everything resets everything, everything resets any one more team.
Speaker 1: But that's with Sacks State.
Speaker 2: Sax State hasn't officially they haven't.
Speaker 1: That's a nothing.
Speaker 2: Sax State lost their appeal to jump. They now they don't.
Speaker 2: They're leaving the Big Sky, so they're not They're gonna
Speaker 2: be an FCS independent. They're leaving the Big Sky. They
Speaker 2: don't have a conference anymore pretty much. And because of
Speaker 2: the bylaws, into blaze, Like if you don't get invited
Speaker 2: to join the conference, you can't just jump up to
Speaker 2: D one. There's a process like sam Houston State had
Speaker 2: to do it, Jacksonville State, a bunch of schools have
Speaker 2: to go through a process. You can't just jump to
Speaker 2: D one. Appalachian State took them years till they jumped
Speaker 2: to D one. So for me, I think the Texas
Speaker 2: State thing is stupid because like it just shows like
Speaker 2: how badly managed the PAC twelve was because at one
Speaker 2: point bro USC turned down Oklahoma and Texas. That's like
Speaker 2: if Rihanna wanted to give you some give you some
Speaker 2: ass and you said no. That's like if Beyonce before
Speaker 2: she got with Jay, was like, hey you want to
Speaker 2: hit this and you said no. Yeah, Well that's gonna
Speaker 2: be afraid of losing control.
Speaker 1: And they lost everything. They lost the whole fucking card
Speaker 1: they could have lost, They.
Speaker 2: Could have loaned, they could have literally owned geographically half
Speaker 2: of half of North America. They would have run half.
Speaker 2: Texas had its own has its own.
Speaker 1: Thinking like that they were thinking of.
Speaker 2: But they were there exactly.
Speaker 1: They were thinking about what the pact Tole was and
Speaker 1: preserving what that was over where it could grow into.
Speaker 2: But they weren't even preserving it. They didn't fight hard
Speaker 2: enough for a c At some point, if you're not growing,
Speaker 2: then you're you're dying either.
Speaker 1: That's what they meant. That's what they came up again.
Speaker 2: You're dying anyway. You're either maintaining or you're lingering. Because
Speaker 2: some school like Boyd State is maintaining and they're getting
Speaker 2: more money in and things are better, they're obviously not gonna.
Speaker 1: Be The Pac twelve was just fine with fine enough
Speaker 1: and they just stopped pushing the envelope and want to
Speaker 1: do anything different or better? And how do you turn down?
Speaker 2: They could have killed the Big Twelve, and the Big
Speaker 2: twelve was like, we ain't making that fine. But yeah,
Speaker 2: and lastly, there's a documentary coming out about cam Ward
Speaker 2: called Zero Star. It's gonna be lit and it's gonna
Speaker 2: be on two B in September. I'm definitely watching it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I saved this last one for a fate or fair.
Speaker 1: All Right, The Seahawks brought to kill Griffin back touchdown
Speaker 1: and turnover touchdown.
Speaker 2: You can never not have enough good nickel corners. And
Speaker 2: he's gonna come right in and play in the slot
Speaker 2: because you got Devin with a spoon on one side
Speaker 2: and Tyreek Wiland on the other. Seahawks are gonna be
Speaker 2: a problem. Yeah, I mean he fits what they want
Speaker 2: to do perfectly. He can just play the slot he's
Speaker 2: not and he can tackle. So he had a bounce
Speaker 2: back year last year. So the last couple of years
Speaker 2: he's been on the rebound. Every time a great dB
Speaker 2: goes to Jacksonville, they end up sucking. Jacksonville produces great DB's,
Speaker 2: they don't sign great dbs. Tell that to Chris Henderson.
Speaker 2: Who the fuck is Chris Henderson?
Speaker 1: C J Henderson? I'm sorry, c J. Henderson was traded.
Speaker 2: Well, he said he produced, they produced great corners. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying he got traded to Carolina though, didn't he Yeah.
Speaker 1: Either way, he's still in the league. He recovered.
Speaker 2: I mean he had maturity issue to Florida corners are
Speaker 2: kind of a red flag. Florida corners are the new
Speaker 2: Alabama middle linebackers.
Speaker 1: All right? Next up, JayR Alexander officially joined the Ravens
Speaker 1: last week. Touchdown or turnover touchdown. Honestly, they probably could
Speaker 1: have one of the best defenses of the league. I
Speaker 1: think they finally fix their defense. You got Jaire on
Speaker 1: one side, Nate Wingins on the other, Marvin Humphrea can
Speaker 1: play the slot, Kyle Hamilton, Oh, who's they got?
Speaker 2: They have safety Amlachi Starks, I think are Darius Washington.
Speaker 2: He's coming off an injury. But they have so much
Speaker 2: depth at safety and like so many corners and so
Speaker 2: many linebackers that I think they're gonna be fine. Like
Speaker 2: that defense is finally it should take the next step.
Speaker 2: If you bring in Gyre out, I just think it's
Speaker 2: a touchdown because AFC is much more it's gonna be
Speaker 2: much easier.
Speaker 1: I think it's a touchdown because the Chiefs are gonna
Speaker 1: be more over there receiver this year. They grow a
Speaker 1: lot of guys coming back from injury, so you you
Speaker 1: had someone that can match up with them. Jahre. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's a brand name, but he's a really versatile player.
Speaker 1: He can play in a lot of different coverages and
Speaker 1: do a lot of the things that they like to
Speaker 1: do as far as taking making takeaways. You know, walking
Speaker 1: down in the side of the field and just making plays.
Speaker 1: But I think overall a big picture, you know, this
Speaker 1: was a guy Lamar Jackson wanted, and I think going
Speaker 1: out and getting him and getting him at a fair price,
Speaker 1: I think chie shows a good commitment to to your
Speaker 1: franchise player and your leader, who they're gonna have to
Speaker 1: start talking about the extension again in the next year
Speaker 1: or two, but just you know, showing that commitment to
Speaker 1: him and his vision. They played together in college, right,
Speaker 1: get him the Raiders could have definitely do. I think
Speaker 1: those are both touchdowns for sure. All right, next one,
Speaker 1: this one's kind of a little hanging through, but whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just so week George Kittle said he would love
Speaker 1: to be in WWE after the NFL touchdown or turnover.
Speaker 2: That's a touchdown because that's t K Like ww is
Speaker 2: not a wrestling company anymore, and like a lot of
Speaker 2: YouTubers have said it, and they made great points because
Speaker 2: it's just how tkl's are operating and like how they're
Speaker 2: doing fans, fans are being priced out and it's just
Speaker 2: just a lot of real slick, slimy shit going on.
Speaker 2: Record profits. But you're firing people and the creative is lacking,
Speaker 2: and the people who could be stars are not being stars,
Speaker 2: and you're paying people to really just sit at home.
Speaker 2: But m especially it'd be cool. But it's like Logan
Speaker 2: Paul's kind of proof that, yeah, if you if you
Speaker 2: got some notoriety or some fame, the same way Gronk
Speaker 2: was in there. Gronk was a WWE for a minute.
Speaker 2: Football players wrestlers are usually former football players anyway. The
Speaker 2: Ussels play football, Roman Reigns played football, The Rock played football.
Speaker 2: A lot of guys played football who were wrestlers.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think when I mean, when you
Speaker 1: play a position a tight end that can easily be
Speaker 1: overlooked as far as pay, as far as impact, but
Speaker 1: yet here you are catching balls in the middle field,
Speaker 1: taking hits, you know, blocking linebackers and d ns block
Speaker 1: like those TLEs, And so I think for him, it
Speaker 1: gives him extra leverage. It gives him, you know, a
Speaker 1: reason for the forty nine ers to keep him happy
Speaker 1: and keep him wanting to play, wanting to be energized,
Speaker 1: and it also just overall keeps adding to his brand
Speaker 1: and gives him something to hope for once he's feels
Speaker 1: like he's ready to leave the game.
Speaker 2: It's like the Super Bowl just now with the Niners.
Speaker 1: It's like it's it's it's better to fit.
Speaker 2: It's better to have options.
Speaker 1: And knowing you're doing what you're doing than it is
Speaker 1: to feel like you have no options and you're just
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing because you have no options. Like
Speaker 1: so I think that itself is freeing and it makes
Speaker 1: what you're doing more fun. All right, Uh, moving on,
Speaker 1: take your tangent. All right. So Sam Laporta was in
Speaker 1: the Vatican. Was at the Vatican this week getting a
Speaker 1: blessing from the Pope. Pope is A reportedly a Bears fan.
Speaker 1: Lions and Bears have a heated rivalry. Laporta is also
Speaker 1: from Chicago, So take your tangent on getting blessed.
Speaker 2: By your op pretty much, I mean another technically, he's
Speaker 2: the vigor of Christ, so he technically has to be
Speaker 2: on your side. Yeah, that's the Pope. You think I
Speaker 2: didn't know that?
Speaker 1: No, I just think it's funny because yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: you hope. But we're all human and uh, who knows.
Speaker 2: Imagine you die and God's like, what the fuck is religion?
Speaker 1: Idiots? I think it was?
Speaker 2: Was it I forget who's it wasn't a Luis K joker,
Speaker 2: it might have been. It was some of these jokers,
Speaker 2: like wait, what the what the fuck are jobs? What
Speaker 2: the fuck did you guys do? All you have to
Speaker 2: do is eat fuck and just have kids, like I
Speaker 2: gave you every, I left you everything. I forget what
Speaker 2: comedians that, but that's your jokes, like what if we
Speaker 2: did all this shit wrong? Like you killed it? What
Speaker 2: do you mean all these ships are extinct? The wooly
Speaker 2: mammoth bitch. So I think that's dope. Man. Actually, go
Speaker 2: meet the Pope in your lifetime. It's kind of cool.
Speaker 2: I'm not Catholic, but that's pretty cool man. Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 2: and obviously, especially if they're both from Chicago.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they talked about fucking White Sox or whatever
Speaker 1: the fuck bulls. They're shitty, they are. I'm sure they're
Speaker 1: tryma bonded over it. My co workers even showed Pope
Speaker 1: Leo at the World Series in five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but giving Pope's too much positive pub because you know,
Speaker 2: Catholic Church cord of our history. But that's all another start. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he also played football in Iowa, so you know, I'm
Speaker 2: Sam Blord with Iowa. Oh I think you're talking about
Speaker 2: the pope. No no, no, no, no, I think go
Speaker 2: to Northwestern or some ship. Oh yeah, he did go
Speaker 2: to Northwestern.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: The Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Gave Travis Hunter a massive contract, record setting for a rookie,
Speaker 1: and then also this year he was seeing being annoying
Speaker 1: in the huddle doing what he does TikTok. And so
Speaker 1: just take your tangent on Travis Hunters impact with the
Speaker 1: Jaguars and just overall as a rookie in this rookie
Speaker 1: class that has already had everyone sign except for two
Speaker 1: people the grown man on that team or telling him
Speaker 1: and letting him like, I hope, oh, you don't always
Speaker 1: got to be in the videos, my boy, Hey cut
Speaker 1: that ship out, bro, you ain't done nothing in the
Speaker 1: league yet. You're not even half the player. Dion stef
Speaker 1: On Diggs. He's been a nasty motherfucker for how long?
Speaker 1: But he's been kepting it under wraps for about eight years.
Speaker 2: He just got fifth round page just now not beating allegations.
Speaker 2: He's just not open with it. But all his teammates
Speaker 2: even like, who's the one person you don't ever date
Speaker 2: or be around the sister Stefan, all the Vikings, like.
Speaker 1: Theys Hes just now public with it out here, fucking
Speaker 1: going to Scotland and fucking Cardi B.
Speaker 2: But I mean, hey, somebody else's left overs. But whatever,
Speaker 2: some releas athletes are weird. Man, find a new chick,
Speaker 2: find a chick that ain't done that. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 2: find you a shack.
Speaker 1: In the industry.
Speaker 2: That's not like.
Speaker 1: He continues out here like that, but whatever, that's the problem.
Speaker 2: Some he's gotta like, you can't find like some random
Speaker 2: fucking I don't know, lawyer chick to shack up with.
Speaker 2: You just gotta get all the the chicks with made
Speaker 2: up bodies. It's just weird to me, Like, that's weird
Speaker 2: that that's all those all those dudes have the same preference,
Speaker 2: y'all all smashing the same chicks. All right, Man, you're
Speaker 2: not beating the Diddy allegations either, But hey, it is
Speaker 2: what it is.
Speaker 1: H him and his brother had that whole weird case
Speaker 1: going on that hasn't really actually been solved out or
Speaker 1: figured out fully. But hey, you know, you all just
Speaker 1: kind of forgot about it. We all just don't talk
Speaker 1: about it. We all just ignore those allegations. But and
Speaker 1: then when it comes out later, we're like, damn, but
Speaker 1: hey touched out. The tangents talked about it.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: All right. Uh, speaking of new contracts, Karen Williams is
Speaker 1: reportedly in talks with the Rams about the extension. Take
Speaker 1: her tangent on Kyle Williams, Like, that's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: It's a little too early for that. I know, he
Speaker 1: still has like two more years on his rookie deal,
Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. And plus plus they are still touch
Speaker 1: this year. He was supposed to still touch his last year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he was a.
Speaker 2: Rookie last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he kind of did for a little bit
Speaker 1: towards the end. He stole some of those big impact
Speaker 1: touches that Williams was getting as far as like you know,
Speaker 1: those second and threes and in the red zone and
Speaker 1: shit like that. Plus he's faster than Kyle Williams. So
Speaker 1: I think that's why Kyen Williams is rushing to commit.
Speaker 1: You know, It's it's one thing to know when your
Speaker 1: windows your window and you want to just lock it
Speaker 1: in and get it trapped, but you know, it's another
Speaker 1: thing if you know there's no one behind you and
Speaker 1: you know, okay, I'm good, but he's not in that situation.
Speaker 1: And they drafted another running back too, I think, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he ain't in no danger stealing starting reps.
Speaker 2: Kind of a crowded backfield, if you ask me. But
Speaker 2: I honestly though, yeah, that Donovan Edwardson still bothers me,
Speaker 2: like the hell that played out like damn bro really.
Speaker 1: But anyway, all right, the Chargers are teasing new alternate
Speaker 1: uniform forms. Uh, there will drop July sixteenth. Take your tangent.
Speaker 2: I'm just here for the social media rollout because I
Speaker 2: know that's gonna be fire and it's hard to fuck
Speaker 2: up that color combination. We're right down the street, man,
Speaker 2: we're literally.
Speaker 1: I just hope that they fucking get some alternate helmets.
Speaker 1: White helmets were cool when they were the alternate.
Speaker 2: I need thunderclap helmets.
Speaker 1: I need the lt. Navy helmets. I need gold helmets. Nah,
Speaker 1: then you look like I need ram ship. No, not
Speaker 1: even gold like that.
Speaker 2: They're yellow, piss yellow. Yeah, you don't want pis yellows.
Speaker 2: A airs on the state got the orange. Got the
Speaker 2: yellow helmets with the orange. Yeah, but they also have
Speaker 2: a undertone of orange. With them, it's like bright orange,
Speaker 2: Like it's bright orange with like a gold crab about
Speaker 2: together nice like fire. Yeah, but I mean some of
Speaker 2: the logos be kind of trashed, but they know their
Speaker 2: colors given their aesthetic. But with the Chargers powder blue helmets,
Speaker 2: I just think there's there's room to grow. I like
Speaker 2: to see yellow helmets, so.
Speaker 1: Like we the navy blue.
Speaker 2: It looks cool, but then you realize it's navy blue. C. J.
Speaker 2: Moseley officially retired.
Speaker 1: Take yours. We talked about that last week. We didn't record.
Speaker 2: Last week we didn't ship. Well, we didn't talk about
Speaker 2: it on the record, but yeah, he retired. Good for him.
Speaker 2: Probably one of the better BAMA linebackers of the past
Speaker 2: decade and he wasn't injuries just kind of yeah, he
Speaker 2: reset the Alabama clock.
Speaker 1: He did.
Speaker 2: He gave it all of a second chance. He made
Speaker 2: us figure about Lando mcclaim and he.
Speaker 1: Had us thinking BAMA linebackers could kind of cover for
Speaker 1: like three years because he could cover if he didn't
Speaker 1: get hurt.
Speaker 2: He went from Baltimore.
Speaker 1: He probably should just say it with the Ravens is okay,
Speaker 1: would have had bro think about how bro they got
Speaker 1: ro quand think about Patrick Queen, Like, think about they.
Speaker 2: Keep a linebacker. They keep it all pro midle linebacker.
Speaker 2: They either draft Trent Simpson might have an all Pro year.
Speaker 2: They just keep a linebacker in the tuck. It's it's
Speaker 2: very impressive. Actually, all right, last one.
Speaker 1: The UFL just wrapped a third season. Uh take her
Speaker 1: tangent on just the UFL the USFL. Yeah, no, it's
Speaker 1: just the us UFL. Now remember it merged with the XFL, USFL,
Speaker 1: XFL and the UFL. Okay, so yeah, they just wrapped
Speaker 1: up their season. Take your tangent on the second year
Speaker 1: of the UFL. Take your tangent on players making the
Speaker 1: jump from the UFL to the NFL.
Speaker 2: I think, just anything you want to say on the UFL, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I got you. They need to fix the contract situation.
Speaker 2: I mean, probably hasn't been showing up for that either,
Speaker 2: because you know, he didn't chomp at Mania and that
Speaker 2: fucked up the whole card. But he can't have it
Speaker 2: ego in football because like, bro, you were never that
Speaker 2: dude in football. Even if Warren Shap never existed, you
Speaker 2: wouldn't have not been that dude at the u Like.
Speaker 1: So let's relax, but.
Speaker 2: The lead he has, it's competitive, and guys who are
Speaker 2: not as good guard from coming out of college or
Speaker 2: getting better with just what they're doing. And some guys
Speaker 2: are making a living. Some guys are coming household names. Now.
Speaker 2: I just think you probably should try to have like
Speaker 2: a USFL draft on to be like, I think you
Speaker 2: need to really figure out how to take the content
Speaker 2: you already have and get it on other platforms as well,
Speaker 2: because two be gonna start live streaming somebody's league. Surprised
Speaker 2: they haven't tried it with the WBA yet, but to
Speaker 2: B has come a long way, and I think they're
Speaker 2: owned by somebody.
Speaker 1: Somebody finally give came. Look, that's all I want to know. Man,
Speaker 1: it's never anyone to Why are you championship the springball
Speaker 1: he's been liked the leading receiver twice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's like the fourth receivers are domind doesn't
Speaker 2: and it's like if you don't hit it the first time,
Speaker 2: it's not happening. He had multiple chances in the league,
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out.
Speaker 1: That's a returner. Yeah, but I mean, good to that league.
Speaker 2: Stay away from whole cloaking and you'll be fine. All right,
Speaker 2: fair fan, you said you had one, so you can
Speaker 2: go for Thomas Castlan of Florida State QB. He was
Speaker 2: at Boston College. He had like over a thousand yards
Speaker 2: by himself, and he said, yeah, Florida State, we finally
Speaker 2: got a squad, Like, we're gonna be great. I've been
Speaker 2: pretty much I was pretty much tearing up the acc
Speaker 2: by myself the last two years. It feels good to
Speaker 2: finally have some help, pretty much shitting on Boston College.
Speaker 2: But if you look at it, I mean, he's kind
Speaker 2: of not wrong, especially if you have over a thousand
Speaker 2: yards rushing, like he kind of was that offense. But
Speaker 2: some of his teammates are like I remember that playing
Speaker 2: a little bit differently, and then Bama players because like
Speaker 2: BABA players, I guess we're deming was it Will Harris
Speaker 2: no Will Blackman, who was a Boston College legend. They
Speaker 2: also got new uniforms. It just looks like their old uniforms.
Speaker 2: I think it's not Russell. I forget who who's sponsor now,
Speaker 2: but just.
Speaker 1: Their color scheme. It can never look cool. It's just like,
Speaker 1: I mean, they both have the same color scheme.
Speaker 2: It's off bread, Notre Dame shorts and like cherry fucking
Speaker 2: burgundy jerseys. I think this is a hard combination. I
Speaker 2: think they're both hard combinations. Anything. Somebody got a Boston
Speaker 2: College Yeah, but you wouldn't rock the Boston College jersey
Speaker 2: from that's not drip your rocking. That's not even drip.
Speaker 2: It's just like, all right, I guess that's the best
Speaker 2: y'all could do. You would wear Luke jersey Boston cloth jersey. Okay,
Speaker 2: but that's the thing. Luke would have been great anywhere
Speaker 2: he went. Same with Matt Ryan. So let's try this again,
Speaker 2: say flowers too. Let's try this again. The first thing
Speaker 2: when you think of you, don't think of dope stuff
Speaker 2: you would wear you rock with you rock Wisconsin to
Speaker 2: give before you would rock. You definitely would not Wiscons
Speaker 2: you god, you rock liar.
Speaker 1: I would not. I would not rock Wisconsin anything. Okay,
Speaker 1: you sure about that? Because you would rock TCU sometimes
Speaker 1: TC you should be looking hideous, So so you want
Speaker 1: to TC They do.
Speaker 2: Do you fuck up purple black? And how do you
Speaker 2: fuck up purple black and gray brow?
Speaker 1: You say it has a thousand in the chamber. They're
Speaker 1: they're they're not green and yellow lot about a hundred
Speaker 1: that are sucked up. Though out of that thousand, they
Speaker 1: got about one hundred that.
Speaker 2: You can afford to. Though. It's like Boys State has
Speaker 2: the same thing. Boys stayed something Informers don't always hit,
Speaker 2: but when they get it right, that ship is in
Speaker 2: the fucking love.
Speaker 1: In the love.
Speaker 2: Even USC when they tried to go to all all
Speaker 2: one color socks, I was like, all right, I see
Speaker 2: not too much now, don't fucking change get get the
Speaker 2: chrome helmets, but let not too much now. I don't
Speaker 2: need to see black alternation.
Speaker 1: Mark Hers can hang around the league for eight years
Speaker 1: and not do ship special team and he beat cancer.
Speaker 1: Bro oh, Now I feel like, how did you not
Speaker 1: know that?
Speaker 2: He literally was supposed to be a first round pick.
Speaker 2: He was like a top five pick, and then he
Speaker 2: got fucking cancer. I remember that had ship taken out
Speaker 2: of his leg, had a rod putting that bitch whole story.
Speaker 2: Got drafted by the Giants, and yeah, I remember him
Speaker 2: falling out of the draft, but I don't remember anything
Speaker 2: after that. It was the cancer, but he Yeah, Thomas
Speaker 2: Castellanos was talking about Bama that, Yeah, that's swear I
Speaker 2: was at. But we didn't even get to but yeah,
Speaker 2: Fara Fay was Thomas Castellano, former Boston College QB who's
Speaker 2: not Florida State, talking about his teammates and how Boston
Speaker 2: College was asked even though he's kind of right. But
Speaker 2: he also said that you know Nick samean, it comes
Speaker 2: to that door, we want Bama, and Bama's kind of
Speaker 2: ass pretty much. He caught out. Yeah, they actually playing
Speaker 2: each other. Florida State and Bama played each other at
Speaker 2: the start the season, and he said they don't have
Speaker 2: Nick sabe and to save them. I just don't see
Speaker 2: them stopping me.
Speaker 1: All right, man?
Speaker 2: Can we move on? I feel like.
Speaker 1: I guess it's fair. They're playing each other right all
Speaker 1: this ship though, Yeah, I think it's fair because they're
Speaker 1: playing each other. It's not out of nowhere. She's gonna
Speaker 1: get set on the field, moving on and crashed out
Speaker 1: again this week on social media. Oh damn, just talking
Speaker 1: about how forty Niners never really had his back, how
Speaker 1: they were trying to trade him two weeks when he
Speaker 1: was still on perks and must relaxerious. No one checked
Speaker 1: in on him, all the rumors about how they regretted
Speaker 1: giving him that extension, et cetera. Et cetera. Not the
Speaker 1: perk thirty, Sir Fay brand you calling out the Niners again.
Speaker 2: It's fair as he really was their best receiver. It's fair.
Speaker 2: Is he their best player? No, he was their best
Speaker 2: receiver by far and should be paid as such. But
Speaker 2: I just think, bro you got paid. Shut up, like,
Speaker 2: come back from a comeback, healed from your injury first,
Speaker 2: and ball out because why we're brock pretty Throw you
Speaker 2: the ball now. They drafted your college teammate, Ricky Pierce
Speaker 2: all and he went higher in the draft than you did.
Speaker 2: It's so facto you're on ball on time, sir. Rechievers
Speaker 2: can get traded whatever. Like I'm gonna say Mark Cooper
Speaker 2: could go to the Niners. Now you look stupid.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's fair only because the Cowboys are
Speaker 1: really only like you know, those three Super Bowl appearances
Speaker 1: away from being the Cowboys. Like every fucking year we
Speaker 1: have to hear that talk, them talk about how they
Speaker 1: need to sign someone and about how they don't sign someone,
Speaker 1: and then they eventually signed someone and it's like, well,
Speaker 1: what the fuck did you drag this out for four
Speaker 1: months and guy wasn't around the organization and now he's
Speaker 1: got to catch up to speak, and it's like, you
Speaker 1: just create adversity for yourself. Like, so, I think, Brenda
Speaker 1: and you, I'm not gonna say he's in, all right,
Speaker 1: because I don't. I don't. I don't agree with how
Speaker 1: he's handling it, But I don't think he's wrong for
Speaker 1: saying it because he's not the first one to say
Speaker 1: these sort of things against the Niners, and whether smoke
Speaker 1: there's fire, so shit, he's probably trying to get traded
Speaker 1: to one of these good teams that the Niners don't
Speaker 1: want to trade him too, you know, And that's why
Speaker 1: he's taking his value. So they're gonna have to take
Speaker 1: the highest bitter, regardless of if it's in the NBC,
Speaker 1: regardless of if it's the team they consider a rival
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like, he just wants to get out of there.
Speaker 1: He's been wanting to get out of there. So I think,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's it's just a matter of time,
Speaker 1: all right, man. So on a slightly more serious note,
Speaker 1: Oh shit, all right, man, this one better be good, bro,
Speaker 1: because every time you bring it up off the cuff,
Speaker 1: when you read it off your glasses on seventy percent
Speaker 1: of the time, it's not good.
Speaker 2: So let's hear it. Shit T calling Travis Scott on
Speaker 2: Loyal Little Bitch pretty much.
Speaker 1: I mean, and this is your n content, bro, because no,
Speaker 1: I really don't give a fuck about this. Really, I
Speaker 1: mean I really don't give a fuck about anything.
Speaker 2: Push your t he's been saying, Bro, what everybody's been saying, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't try to scout. He's doing everybody all his
Speaker 2: fucking bullshit. This is what he does.
Speaker 1: Someone needs a call push your tea for doing this
Speaker 1: ship because he's doing the exact he he that he
Speaker 1: calls everybody else.
Speaker 2: Out for Bro, he legally couldn't, Okay, So now he's pushing.
Speaker 1: He's pushing the fucking album and singles and features, and
Speaker 1: he also coincidentally happens to be out on the media
Speaker 1: talking shit about people that he used to work with.
Speaker 2: This is his fucking cycle, bro, But you don't want
Speaker 2: to say it.
Speaker 1: You're like a Laker fan who didn't want to admit
Speaker 1: that the Akers were broke until they got sold. And
Speaker 1: now it's like, oh, happy and dad, we got a
Speaker 1: fucking billionaire. Like you're doing the same.
Speaker 2: Ship, Bro, I said, I just told you. I told
Speaker 2: you a while ago. I'm not talking about that. I
Speaker 2: was to get sold a while ago. You're being the delusional,
Speaker 2: pushing tee fan right now.
Speaker 1: It wasn't about that's doing the fucking theatrics that he
Speaker 1: talks shit about rappers doing.
Speaker 2: My issue was more just Travis Scott being called out
Speaker 2: for being a whole. And that's my issue is because
Speaker 2: no every five about Travis stop years pushing tears with
Speaker 2: another label, talking shit about his old label. No, that's
Speaker 2: not true. He was signed with that label for a
Speaker 2: while five years ago. When he was talking about Drake,
Speaker 2: he was talking about Farrell, he was talking about Star Trek.
Speaker 2: He wasn't talking about for He's talking about.
Speaker 1: Cuddy, He's talking about Kanye. He's literally everybody. Bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: I'm and everyone says that was just a fucking front.
Speaker 1: I was talking about everyone. It was just a fucking
Speaker 1: naming naming quote your title. Yeah, I'm making up cliches
Speaker 1: that don't even exist.
Speaker 2: I was strictly just talking about Travis Scott being a
Speaker 2: whole and acting like worse than a Kardashian. It's like, Bro,
Speaker 2: you skated off all those people that died at your
Speaker 2: concert with no real consequences.
Speaker 1: Was his fault. How was that his fault?
Speaker 2: It's not his fault. But even if it's not your fan,
Speaker 2: it's not your fault, you're gonna get blamed. You're gonna
Speaker 2: get blamed either way. But my point is him being
Speaker 2: messy behind the scenes. It's like, yeah, people were finally
Speaker 2: calling out messy ass rappers, and I'm just saying, I
Speaker 2: personally think it's good that all these people in the
Speaker 2: music industry are starting to call each other out.
Speaker 1: This is just the fucking mad rapper cycle that everyone
Speaker 1: was talking about in the two thousands just coming back around.
Speaker 2: That's all. This is going to fuck Jim Jones. It's
Speaker 2: literally the main shit, bro, it's just old Jim Jones
Speaker 2: thinking about new dudes. You know, I'm just gonna just
Speaker 2: file this up as a whole rap industry Jim Jones
Speaker 2: even thinking he's on the level.
Speaker 1: Shit about twenty year olds. Don't make you a third
Speaker 1: don't make you a thought leader. That's the title of
Speaker 1: the fucking episodes. Let's move on, all.
Speaker 2: Right, that's.
Speaker 1: More serious. Note, the video of Shador Sanders fucking arrest
Speaker 1: hasn't going around.
Speaker 2: Everyone's been talking about that again.
Speaker 1: But fair and fait just everyone kind of using this
Speaker 1: as an excuse to just hate on Shador even more
Speaker 1: than they already did.
Speaker 2: Bro, this is so not I even I wasn't even
Speaker 2: thinking about that shit. That shit came and went, came
Speaker 2: and went. People don't even talk about that sha shit anymore.
Speaker 2: Yes they are, Bro, it's all over fucking social media.
Speaker 1: It's all over making memes about it. That ship video
Speaker 1: came out and people were sharing the video again and
Speaker 1: was talking about the video. Everyone was talking shit about him.
Speaker 2: People speed it happens. He don't have a history of that.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah he got parking take That's what I'm
Speaker 2: saying this narrative, But this little one.
Speaker 1: Is just playing whatever part in the door narrative you
Speaker 1: wanted to play.
Speaker 2: That Bailey kid who got drafted by the Jazz at five.
Speaker 2: He's who people think Shador is. How he like didn't
Speaker 2: work on on any teams a near Bailey or album
Speaker 2: whatever his name was out of Rutgers who ended up.
Speaker 2: He was mad as hell that he went to the
Speaker 2: Jazz at five. Like, Bro, that's who you think is
Speaker 2: the that's the diva, not your door. So it's like
Speaker 2: all the you know that comes out as much as
Speaker 2: the Browns and a joker and everybody else's been gassing
Speaker 2: them up. All right, well let's make a decision about that,
Speaker 2: you know, when the preseason's over. But yeah, I'm not
Speaker 2: paying I'm not giving that.
Speaker 1: Sh That's the point that I'm what I'm saying though,
Speaker 1: It's like that's why it's like people that are support
Speaker 1: there are just like, oh yeah, there's nothing. Everyone speeds
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. People that are hating on him or
Speaker 1: just like oh yeah, this Jerry, you go being a distraction,
Speaker 1: Like he can't even make it as a fifth round pick.
Speaker 2: It's like this incident is just playing into bigger.
Speaker 1: Narratives that it's not even related to, just based off
Speaker 1: people's own perspective and projections, playing.
Speaker 2: The people's cockage.
Speaker 1: Again goes back to the title stop talking about twenty
Speaker 1: year olds, don't make you a thought Later last one
Speaker 1: even more serious.
Speaker 2: But uh, last week, Henry Rugg's surfaced.
Speaker 1: He spoke on the record kind of for the first
Speaker 1: time since being in prison the last couple of years,
Speaker 1: just kind of took ownership of really the whole situation,
Speaker 1: you know, taking the life of a young woman and
Speaker 1: apologized to her family and just basically made it known
Speaker 1: that you know, he's still working out, he still hopes to,
Speaker 1: you know, return to the NFL at some point in
Speaker 1: the next couple of years when he gets when he
Speaker 1: has potentially potential opportunities to get out. Some folks asked
Speaker 1: him if he would go back to the Raiders, and
Speaker 1: he said, of course, because he's the first Vegas dropick
Speaker 1: either way, fair fad Henry Ruggs just talking.
Speaker 2: It's over, Brah, you who were was just a fast dude,
Speaker 2: tried to run routes. You've already shown you've made bad decisions.
Speaker 2: Take a lot for him to get another chance. I
Speaker 2: never I was like, his life's over, it's done. And
Speaker 2: like Josh Jacobs, Nick Saban, They're all like I told
Speaker 2: them not to do it. It's over for him. It's unfortunate,
Speaker 2: but it's just over and hopefully he can do something else.
Speaker 2: This is this is worse than the way Rice situation
Speaker 2: killed somebody, I mean little, and that's different. But we're
Speaker 2: in a different country at a different time. We as
Speaker 2: thirty plus year old millennials have more moral, fiber and techno.
Speaker 2: We don't even drink now than past generations. You don't
Speaker 2: even drink now, Like, we have more moral integrity than
Speaker 2: the people who preceded us, so he wouldn't do shit
Speaker 2: like that. So it's a little bit different than Leonard
Speaker 2: Little in nineteen ninety nine because I see it this way.
Speaker 2: I think it's fair. This was righted up back then,
Speaker 2: and it was him taking so much and fucking tape
Speaker 2: it up their wrist pads with illegal shit and yeah,
Speaker 2: doing god knows what. So it's a totally different time.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I look at it from the perspective of like,
Speaker 1: I think it's fair, you know, for him, like if
Speaker 1: he's really learned his lesson or he's really on the
Speaker 1: path to rehabilitation, like, you know, I think it's good
Speaker 1: for him to own it, to not run from it,
Speaker 1: to you know, make his intentions known and just you know,
Speaker 1: say to the world, like, you know, I did this,
Speaker 1: it's done, it's over. It's nothing I could do take
Speaker 1: it back, like trying to move forward as best as
Speaker 1: I can, like so anyone can ask for it. So
Speaker 1: I think it's fair from that perspective. On the other hand,
Speaker 1: I don't think it's fair to give him a platform,
Speaker 1: especially if his release isn't imminent, right like it's one
Speaker 1: thing if he's getting out next month or you know whatever, sure,
Speaker 1: you know, do an exclusive interview with him or do
Speaker 1: press conference with him or whatever. But with that not
Speaker 1: in play, with NFL teams not showing any interest that
Speaker 1: we know of, like there's really no reason to give him.
Speaker 2: A platform like that. But that said, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 2: if he's if.
Speaker 1: All giving speed, has God giving speed, and if he
Speaker 1: gets out and he's able to maintain shape, like I'm
Speaker 1: sure a UFL team will give him a look. And
Speaker 1: if he goes and has an MVP season in the UFL,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there will be one team that
Speaker 1: will give him a training camp invite.
Speaker 2: That's what it takes us. One that's a place where
Speaker 2: he could probably especially if he goes to like the
Speaker 2: Birmingham team and Bama, where he has already loved, then
Speaker 2: I could see it. But it will take a lot of.
Speaker 1: Character development and in a lot of times doesn't have
Speaker 1: because father times undefeated, Like.
Speaker 2: That draft class came and went bro' you're technically the
Speaker 2: biggest bust of that draft class based on the fact that, yeah,
Speaker 2: other guys may have been busted, but they didn't kill
Speaker 2: anybody in imprison for it, and.
Speaker 1: They played more than a year and alf even.
Speaker 2: Though you were streaking downfield naked by yourself and Derek
Speaker 2: Carr didn't throw you the ball.
Speaker 1: But that's a whole other issue. Yeah, but uh, Derek
Speaker 1: Carr still writes him and visits him. I guess.
Speaker 2: This is John Jacobs do too. That's the part that's
Speaker 2: cool that like not everybody gave up on him. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the part that I will say, dope. But it's
Speaker 2: just like you're asking a little bit too much. Well,
Speaker 2: you just need to go and be quiet and when
Speaker 2: you're a productive member of society first.
Speaker 1: And then and then we'll listen to you. All right,
Speaker 1: moving on, wrap up the show, close it out. Anything
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people. This is your time.
Speaker 2: To the person who keeps buying up all the size
Speaker 2: fourteen shoes, the dumb asses who think tariffs weren't gonna
Speaker 2: affect everyday life. I just want you to know I
Speaker 2: fucking hate your parents forever meeting they would have ghosted
Speaker 2: each other. And if I ever find you, I will
Speaker 2: kill you. I didn't say that legal record, I didn't
Speaker 2: say that. Pete said that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I thought you were quoting Taken. No.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw trying to buy some lamellos. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know what, I'm gonna give me another pair of shoes.
Speaker 2: These you're sick. And I saw something never like sixty
Speaker 2: dollars in the store and I was like, bet they
Speaker 2: got him into thirteen. They got him another sizes. Bro
Speaker 2: have most of these places like all you little feet
Speaker 2: motherfuckers have all these options, and like you're not even
Speaker 2: buying the shoes, that's why they's so there's like a
Speaker 2: plethora of shoes for people like under size twelve. And
Speaker 2: that shit really pisses me off, cause like I got
Speaker 2: feet too, I need shoes sometime, be having the bread
Speaker 2: to buy them. But no, I gotta fucking d I
Speaker 2: gotta fucking call out Puma on Twitter. They're like, hey,
Speaker 2: I need a side fourteen all your shoes and a
Speaker 2: Nike and a bunch of other places that were like
Speaker 2: size fourteen and up. They just said, fuck you guys.
Speaker 2: I know one dude on Facebook, I went to school
Speaker 2: his mother wearing size eighteen shoe. Where the fuck is
Speaker 2: he gonna get any shoes? They don't even make size eighteens.
Speaker 2: This dude gotta pay like out of pocket. So for everybody,
Speaker 2: all the people who are size fourteen and up goes
Speaker 2: out to you because they fucking playing with us out here.
Speaker 2: They play it with there'd being very disrespectful out here
Speaker 2: towards us and all we wanted some shoes for our
Speaker 2: feet fucking for me to you and if you're just
Speaker 2: buying it to resell it, oh my god, I hope
Speaker 2: you get robbed. I hope you get robbed and like
Speaker 2: left fucking duct taped to a fire hydrant with no
Speaker 2: clothes so we can just publicly shame and make fun
Speaker 2: of you. Like seriously, it's just some bullshit, like I
Speaker 2: can't even get shoes because nobody carries a fourteen anywhere.
Speaker 2: All of a fucking sudden, disgusted and fuck Jim Jones
Speaker 2: to even think you could be on the same level
Speaker 2: as nas boy, his mama must have just been borming.
Speaker 2: Was your mother borer cracking her system? Because you gotta
Speaker 2: be real fucking stupid, like bro, name a Jim Jones bar.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, gun to your fucking head, gun of the
Speaker 2: person's head you love the most name of Jim Jones bar.
Speaker 2: You might as well just fucking mercy kill him. You
Speaker 2: can't and don't say balling. He literally stole mac bees
Speaker 2: whole fucking wave. We know he stole Max Bee's wave.
Speaker 2: Bret down to the braids and everything, choking out white
Speaker 2: boys in the true life thinking that shit is cool? Dog,
Speaker 2: how you like a fifty year old blood him and
Speaker 2: Steven Jackson. I hate these niggas. I don't even like
Speaker 2: saying niggas like that on wax, knowing this is recorded,
Speaker 2: knowing this is recorded, But I can't stand in those
Speaker 2: old niggas. You old niggas really get on my nerves.
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna make sure the kids hate y'all and
Speaker 2: mock you. I'm gonna tell them don't follow it. They're losers, bro,
Speaker 2: They're a loser. I don't care how much money they got.
Speaker 2: Fucking losers dressing like a goddamn seventeen year old who
Speaker 2: just got hired at Applecrombie and Fitch in two thousand
Speaker 2: and seven, Like bars just fucking doodo. Like I'm just
Speaker 2: so sick with these old ugh like between the shoes
Speaker 2: and the rapper said dumb shit, Who seriously you could
Speaker 2: name a NAS bar even if you don't like nas.
Speaker 2: I'm still waiting for a Jim Jones bar. Go ahead,
Speaker 2: somebody give me a Jim Jones bar. I would love
Speaker 2: to hear it. And no, ball it doesn't count. That's
Speaker 2: a chorus, bitch. It's like when people say, oh, name
Speaker 2: a little boosy bar. Guess what that song.
Speaker 1: That you wanna?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not boosy song. Some of y'all didn't know that.
Speaker 2: So sometimes name a Maddy Fresh bar. Anyway, shout out
Speaker 2: the rams so petty. But yeah, y'all, I'm just thinking
Speaker 2: of ship. I just want shoes. That was like your
Speaker 2: best rant about five years. I just want to shoose
Speaker 2: that fiel about your best ranting. I need Jim Jones
Speaker 2: to shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1: That was your best rant for sure. Seriously, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: I don't know a how to say it after that.
Speaker 1: That was that was That was pretty epic. Just looking
Speaker 1: forward to the season coming up. Man, she locked in
Speaker 1: with these oc trojans. Nah and you uh. Ship season
Speaker 1: starts in two months, but we're going full pass four
Speaker 1: days a week. Stop pimphanies little kids too, by the way,
Speaker 1: Just after that, after that month, then we got three
Speaker 1: days a week and then start scrimmaging and start playing games,
Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens. But so far, talent's looking good.
Speaker 1: Just trying to coach Mount and get them to know
Speaker 1: what the fuck they're doing, because right now they're still
Speaker 1: trying to figure out the difference between their hands and feet.
Speaker 2: That was the nicest way. That was the nicest way
Speaker 2: you could say that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a Touchdowns and Tangents TD's underscore
Speaker 1: Tangents Touchdowns at tangents dot com.
Speaker 2: We are out peace. Peace. Seriously, fuck Jim Jones.