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Speaker 2: So we're in my dad's old neighborhood in Glendale, Queen's.

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And we're driving and we take a left and as

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we take a left, you know Glendale, if you've ever

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been to Glendale, Queens, there are a lot of parts

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of Queens. There's these like three four story buildings like

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residential on the top, the bottom floor is like shops

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and stores. Uh. And we turn onto this avenue and

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there's just this huge like bowling green that extends out

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in if quite a way. And because the elevated trains

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are I can't see what is at the center of

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this building, and so we're driving closer to it and

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it starts to come into form. It's this tower, massive

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towering building. And I go, uh that, why does that

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look so familiar? What is that? And my dad goes,

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that's Franklin kay Lane. And I go, wait a second,

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Franklin kay Lane. What did I read about Franklin kay Lane?

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And and of course it's the famous what's his name Saltsman, Yeah,

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Harold Saltsman Race War in high school and I go,

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there's this book it's about Franklin kay Lane and it's

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detailed Assaltsman details just just like race War that was

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going on between like the SEQ what sixty seven and

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seventy and my dad goes and I forgot this. My

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dad goes, yeah, I went to that school. I went, well,

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I was at that school in seventy four, so it

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was right after like the peak of it. And I

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was like, so, you know, what's your story and he goes, well,

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I didn't. It wasn't too bad, but one time I

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did get stabbed in the back by a sharpmaned umbrella.

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I was like, by who He was, like, who do

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you think? He was telling me? And he was telling

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me about the segregated lunch room about it was, you know,

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there were three sets of areas that were in the lunchroom,

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and it was the white kids had one set of table,

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the black kids had one set of tables, and the

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Hispanics had one set of tables. And so he said

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detailing this to me, and I'm like, you should, you know,

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you should really get on a podcast and tell this story.

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You can. You know, people want to hear this stuff.

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You know, it's one of the most insane sagas in

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the history of New York City, is that that school.

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So I just figured i'd tell you that because you're

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New York born. And I know you you were well

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aware of what was going on at the time, but

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I just find it really funny. It's like, it's this huge,

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imposing building in the middle of this beautiful green and

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he was telling me the elevated train where you got in.

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Mimonodies Cemetery by the way, and it's this huge entrance

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to Mimonity Cemetery and you have to walk past it.

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other side of the block. You had to walk on

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the Mimanity Cemetery side of the block because on the

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other side of the block was where the black kids

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would walk, because they'd be coming from, uh, you know,

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the more the more inner part of Queens And so

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you literally down to the sidewalks, you had to walk

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on different sides. And of course white, he gets white.

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something that's going on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's crazy. Does your dad have the typical

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Speaker 2: Uh? He has the old New York accent, which you

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probably remember, not the Brooklyn accent with all the rounded things.

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he like, this is the old Queen's accent, that like

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Irish accent that everybody has. And I was thinking about

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the tragedy of that poor accent has had just disappeared.

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just see a lot of mom Donni's and Cuomos. That's

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the only accents that you hear in anymore. Is mom

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Donnie and Cuomo style accents? Really a tragedy.

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Speaker 1: The I think, let me check this. I thought that

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there was somebody else who went to Franklin Klee. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so funny, my dad, you know what, that's

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really weird. John Gotti, the father obviously you're talking about

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during the time he was telling My dad was telling

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me because the whole area is very interesting, if not

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that anybody on your show will ever go to Glendale Queen's.

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It's very difficult to get to impenetrable almost, but it's

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a huge Jewish cemetery that separates the three parts of

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the whole neighborhood. Literally you can still see it to

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this day. There's the black part, there's the Hispanic part,

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which is ever growing, and there's the old white part,

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which is now not even the same whites. It's like Albanians,

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Czech people or whatever over there now, and so it's

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just separated by this huge cemetery. And he was telling

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me about a time when he's there were Italian kids

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that would go to Franklin k Lane and they would

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be escorted to the school by these you know, big

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brusque like Italian guys in track suits. Like it was

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the only white group that had a a protection thing

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going on where they they would escort their kids to

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the school, you know, with like tire irons and revolvers

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and during you know, in the sixties, and no other

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white ethnic group was doing that. My dad came from

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the German American side of town, and there was no

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protection network for those kids, which I just think is

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so unusual. I don't know if that's interesting to you

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or not, but I just think it's so unusual. Only

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the Italians, Only the Italians.

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Speaker 1: Well they always had, you know, the best social clubs

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and social networks and community organizing and like mutual aid societies,

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things like that. They they really excelled in that, so

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that it makes sense to me. I don't know if

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you remember in Race Warren High School, but there was

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a part in there where right down the street from

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the high school just a riot breaks out and the

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police are sort of just overwhelmed, and like they talk

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about all these white World War two veterans come out

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with rifles and stuff.

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Speaker 2: R Yes, yeah, it was too it was a different time, Queens.

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Speaker 1: I really wish I would have had a chance. I

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wish I would have known about this book a lot earlier.

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Because Saltsman died in twenty twenty. I really would like

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to interview him about that because I mean, of course

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there's so many things I wouldn't be able to say

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to him. But there's so many amazing things in that book.

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I mean, where you just get the detail the violence.

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I mean from chapter one right away you get the

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you know, the burning, and then you the rape and

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the just I mean, this absolute insanity. But you know

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there's this whole, like the whole second half of that

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book is basically about how, you know, the UFT the

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Teachers Union is just taken over by a Jewish you know, cabal.

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And I'm sure he didn't mean to tell the story

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that way, but when you read it, you're like, holy crap.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, he just detailed it. I mean like

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he's talk about meetings and how and yeah, doing this,

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and well they were a cartel, I mean in Queen's

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in the same way where you would talk about the

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ever there's this myth.

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Speaker 2: Oh, don't mention the mafia. Everybody knew the Mafia was

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a power PC.

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Speaker 1: I didn't care if you talked about him, no, as

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long as you weren't snitch on them.

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Speaker 2: And there was a Jewish educational cartel too, I mean,

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there was a protection racket for the Italian kids. And

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there was a Jewish teachers union cartel in New York too,

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and everybody knew that and talked about that. It's only

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really now it seems like the veil has been laid

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over with that, with that idea. And I don't know

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why that is. It was it's something they used to

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take pride in, you know, do they It's something that

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the control over the Teachers' Union used to be something

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that progressive Jews took a lot of pride in because

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it meant that they could effectuate their view of education

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over the system, which was a good thing. And it

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only seems like now talking about that is sort of

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verboten not to use to ethnically charged the phrase, but

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you know, it seems only now it's something that you

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can't talk about. But Queens in the seventies was highly tribalized,

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and everybody knew it, and it was expected and it

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was ordinary and for the people. Forget the kind of

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first half of that history, which comes really from the

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point of the Great Migration up until the crime policies

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that occur in this in the early to mid sixties

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when there's a turnover and the progressives really take power.

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at least to about that time, the ethnic diversity and

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the ethnic tribalism is kind of what kept the city working.

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it to maybe an idealized view of a medieval town.

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People neglect to talk about because it wasn't explicitly written.

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The caste systems of the medieval towns of Europe. This

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group has its job and its thing, and this group

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has this job and this thing. And that's how Queens

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and other sort of naturally organized cities they formed this

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way up until the intrusion of the federal and state

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governments into the way people organize, I mean by organized,

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the way they live, the way they organize their cultures.

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policies to make things change, and it obviously just makes

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you I mean, this is like remedial for your listeners

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and you, but it does really make you think the

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intrusion is obviously what has caused the problem.

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Speaker 1: Well, I know that Manhattan at one point was very

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self segregating. Are this how self segregating are the otderboroughs Now?

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Speaker 2: Where I grew up in Queens It was, And we've

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talked about this. This hearkens back to probably the first

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episode that we did together where we talked about Robert Moses.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, I was. I was just thinking about

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that a couple of minutes ago when you were talking.

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I was thinking, well, what's funny is when you get

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the Great Migration, you've already had the work of Robert

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Moses in place for about forty years. It was almost

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like they were anticipating. It was almost like it was

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an anticipation.

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Speaker 2: And what's interesting about Robert Moses is that he wasn't

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this great grand conspiratorial or segregatory mind. He just knew

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how cities had to work in an empire. He knew

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that he didn't plan this neighborhood or that neighborhood will

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be the black neighborhood, or this neighborhood or that neighborhood

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will be the Slavic neighborhood. He knew that you had

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to design towns in an essentially self segt segregatory manner.

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you know, the public school, my monodies, cemetery. Now this

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wasn't designed by Robert Moses, but you understand, the pinnacle

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of city architecture only represents the trends of city architecture

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at that time, which were the designing of the self

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segregatory networks of towns. And where I grew up in

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what I would call Central Queens areas like the town

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of Glendale areas. I don't even know if you've been

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Speaker 1: But still a historia many times.

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Speaker 2: Still designed in the same way where the highways. Unlike

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in Miami, the highways are designed to get you from

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one place to another. In New York, the highways are

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as much designed to do that as they are to

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create these pockets of neighborhoods. And I mean it's not

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look at Google or Earth and look at in New York,

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where the highway sit, where the public parks sit, where

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the graveyards are. All of it was piecemeal and naturally

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designed in order to segregate neighborhoods. Now they didn't know

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was this neighborhood going to become Polish by nineteen eighty.

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Was this neighborhood by nineteen ninety going to be removed

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of all its Italians in favor of Venezuelans, Which is

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the case in some of the far outer parts of Queens,

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like near the water, like well, any of the areas

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that Butcher's up against the water not quite rockaway, but

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Howard Beach and those areas where the Italians used to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's last I heard. The building that I

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grew up in, the Bronx is mostly Filipinos, and when

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I was growing up, it was mostly leftover Irish, Puerto.

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Speaker 2: Rican in Dominican and they're all they've moved mostly back

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to Long Island or they've moved up. But you can

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see the way that these structures are all built is

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they're meant to create these self segregating towns because the

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idea was we have to operate an imperial city. This

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stuff was designed before the Civil Rights regime was put

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into place, the post.

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Speaker 1: Sivil Years regime sixty years before that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, they had no idea that that was coming.

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And now you get in cities that are built up afterwards,

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you get just highly economically functional highways. They take you

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from one neighborhood to the district where you spend your

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money and make your money. They don't actually function to

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segregate town or neighborhoods. This is certainly not the case

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in where I live in outer Miami, the newer parts

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of Miami, the parts that are more freshly built after

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the considerations of the Civil Rights regime, are made, but

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in New York you can't just pick that stuff up

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and move it so you can really see it. And

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so you know, the book gives you good context. But

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one thing the book didn't quite do, and I'm still

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talking about race war in high school, and that's because

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it's the goal wasn't to do this, But it would

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be excellent for somebody with this kind of knowledge to

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make a book that precludes race Warren High School, and

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it could refer to the design of the areas around

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Franklin K High School and what racial and ethnic groups

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they housed and how they were designed to keep those

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groups in and not walking towards one another. Because again,

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to get to where my father lived, you get to

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do one of two things. You had to take the

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elevated train, which went in a cut through over the

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Jewish cemetery to get to that area. And nobody gets

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on a train not knowing where they're going, So essentially

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nobody from the other side of the neighborhood would have

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ever gotten off the train in that side of the

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neighborhood because you would just look at the sign and

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it would say, you know, Glendale Queens, and that's what

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the stop line says, you go, I don't know where

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this is, so I'm not getting off. And the other

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way was you could take your vehicle through a different cut,

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through through the Jewish cemetery. Another thing you just don't

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ever do if you live in a big city. You

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don't ever in a big city go somewhere you don't

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know where you're going, especially not you know, in nineteen

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fifty you don't go and do that. So these areas

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they still look this way, but they are not this

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way anymore. I mean, the area where my dad grew

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up now has cycled through three different ethnic hegemony. You know,

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it's totally different than what it was as a German

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neighborhood where my dad was growing up. It cycled through

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Eastern European to like Asian, Indian to Venezuelan, and that's

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how it cycled through. But that's just not how they

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were originally designed. And so it would be really interesting

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for somebody to create a book that talks about the

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circumstances that led to Franklin kay Lane being a pressure

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cooker for race war, because it wasn't just like city

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policy that made it that way. It was city policy

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as a result of the way the towns were organized.

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I mean, you still see this to this Dapete these

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you know, if you go to if these kids go

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to public school, so they're assigned a public school that

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they go to, and Franklin kay Lane sits at the

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nexus of these three warring tribes, these neighborhoods of three

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different colors of people. And that's why Franklin Kaylane is

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just one of the powder kegs because the city's design

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unintentionally contributed to that. The way they've designed public schools

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now is they make sure that only the black kids

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go to that school, so it's in the center of

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the black neighborhood instead of on the border of three neighborhoods,

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which is exactly what you would get when you would

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expect it to just be three white neighborhoods that would

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be all going to one public school. Of course, you

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would just put it like at the triangle point of

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the three, whereas now they put them up and they

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put them in the heart of the neighborhood because they

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just they cannot afford more race wars in high school

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to happen. It was the most damaging thing to the

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civil rights regime was immediately after the Great Society has passed.

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There's huge race wars that are occurring everywhere in New

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York City and in other places too. That's why they

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changed it all. And you just take a dry through

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areas where my dad grew up in Queens and it

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physically it lit it becomes alive to you. You know,

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you can still because the you know, in that Aber

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neighborhood now where the Blacks used to live, it's now Indians.

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It's an Indian neighborhood, but you can still see them

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manifest in those little cells, right, you can still you

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can see you go across the cemetery and there's no

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Indians left now. It's it's all like Eastern Europeans or Venezuelans,

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but it's one group in the in the in the

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spot because the our architecture still functions that way. It's

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just it's very interesting how the plans of one generation

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outlive that generation's ability to govern, you know what the

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plans set up was meant to do. So that's the

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consequence of what New York City is kind of still

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like now. And it's no wonder the areas where my

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dad grew up. The only thing that hasn't changed about

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them is that they still vote Republican. I mean, they've

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gone through three or four ethnic dumpouts, but the area

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is still vote Republican. And that's because the way that

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they live, isolated from others, pushes them towards a more

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perceived to be conservative set of politics. It's just very

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unusual how architecture really dominates the way that people think,

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even when they don't realize it, even when it seems

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like it has nothing to do with it. Which you know,

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has been my whole life for the past three months,

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is thinking about Mason's and architecture and could people controlling

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our minds. So that's kind of what I've been up

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to lately, is thinking about that as I've returned from

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my ancestral homeland to get back to podcasting.

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Speaker 1: I guess the benefit of living where I live is

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that this it really hasn't changed. And I was speaking

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with a friend of mine from around here this morning,

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and he grew up here, he lives here, he's going

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to die here, and his family's been here for you know,

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well over one hundred years. And basically what we were

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talking about was we were talking about the city, and

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we were talking about for some reason, we talk about

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segregation and everything, and we talked about how the fact

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that our town has like twenty is like twenty to

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thirty percent black, yet unless you go into certain places

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or you even know where to get, you don't know

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that they're that it's still down here because of history. Yeah,

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I asked him. I said, well, where are they? You know,

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where are they? Yeah? I see some at Pigley Wigley.

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Really nice people always say hi, even to people I

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don't know. I said, where are they? He's like, well,

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you know that one road and you make a left,

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he goes, if you go down that, If you go

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down that road and just keep going, they're all on

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the left side of that road.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I never think to turn on that side of

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the road because you're like, I don't know what's over there,

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and that's it's designed that way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, i'ink the natural architecture.

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Speaker 1: I've been down that road many times and I didn't

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even notice it because I mean, it's not like they're

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hanging out on their porch or front lawn or anything

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like that. It just doesn't. It's pretty. It's very historic

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where it's like we're static here. But the one thing

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you get in a city like New York City is

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you're going to get that change. You're going to get

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that constant cycle of people cycling in, group cycling in

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and group cycling out.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that the dumpover change happens in New York

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City in a way that it does not happen in

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small towns in the South. Absolutely, But it is funny

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they're built the same way.

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Speaker 1: To me, Well, the first you know, I guess the

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real first groups that came were you know, you talk

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about the Irish and then the Italians, and they set

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up their own, their own little cadres, their own little

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neighborhoods are obviously little literally people know Little Italy and.

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Speaker 2: And not one Italian left, by the way, in Little Italy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, in Little Italy. Yeah. But I mean there's still

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there's still it's a little itery.

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Speaker 2: They call it a litter itery.

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Speaker 1: What is it? What is that?

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Speaker 2: Chinese? Chinese? It's all just Chinese and Koreans.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah, you just cross Mott Street and

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you're in Chinatown, so uh, but or you cross Canal

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and you're in Chinatown. But the but still a lot

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of Italians remained in the city, they just moved elsewhere.

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Like the Irish that I grew up with around and

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there was there was still a lot of Irish in

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the section of the Bronx when I was growing up.

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They all moved up to like the Woodlawn area, m

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Woodlawn in the Bronx, up by Van Cortland Park everything. Yeah,

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so they all moved up there, but they and leave.

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So it seems like the of all the groups, all

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the groups that came in, the Irish and the Italians

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their pretty good job of just staying and setting up shop,

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you know. And they're still Italian neighborhoods in the Bronx.

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People don't even talk.

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Speaker 2: About getting old though. There's Italian neighborhoods in Brooklyn too,

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and in Queens the area that I grew up in

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is still a solidly Italian neighborhood. But you know, again,

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this is very remediable, but it's RICO ruined all that.

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Rico and related policies is what ruined the ability for

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whites to have ethnic neighborhoods because and I'll just say

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whites choose to have ethnic neighborhoods. Blacks in most cases,

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certainly in New York are not choosing to have ethnic neighborhoods.

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Their ethnic neighborhoods are by consequence, and similarly, the new

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groups that are being shoveled into the city of the

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Venezuelans in some cases, the El Salvadorans. And you know,

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we love having l Salvadorians in this country because it's

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the ones that Bukel didn't want, right, so of course

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they're going to be great, upstanding, the El Salvadorans. These

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are groups that are filling in the kind of they

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call it white flight, the kind of white flight neighborhoods,

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the whites who are getting out and finding the new

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neighborhoods farther out in Long Island and farther upstate to

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move into. They're just sort of filling those places. So

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they are rico ruined the ability for there to be

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what is necessary in situations like that, which is ethnic

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protection rackets. It's not necessarily something that's necessary in a

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southern town, even though it still exists. Somebody who's not

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from that town that you live and comes in and

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does something terrible. It takes guys to go to one

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another's houses and go get your cousins to come here. Hey,

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get that family, and we're gonna go and find this motherfucker.

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That still happens in the South. That does not happen

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in the technocratic, northern major Empire city anymore. I mean,

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it does happen if you are an illegal and you're untraceable.

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There are absolutely Venezuela and gangs. MS thirteen is in

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New York and they mostly do exactly what the Italian

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mafia did. Before the CIA NFBI penetrated it and made

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it an international arm of crime. It was basically just

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an ethnic protection racket in Queen's and it kept that

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border solid for where those neighborhoods were, because not only

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would like, good, well meaning people of other ethnic groups

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come into those neighborhoods, the criminals certainly wouldn't. And you

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certainly wouldn't want to be one of the first families

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from a different group to move. And I'm not talking

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about black and white. If you were Polish and you

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tried to move into an Italian neighborhood. I know this

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is a fact because I was fighting the kind of

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ethnic battles in the local park that were there were

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the kind of secondhand fights that you know in quotes,

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our fathers were fighting.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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00:29:16,599 --> 00:29:20,839
Speaker 2: There was when the Pollocks came in to the Italian neighborhood,

476
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,880
the German neighborhood, the Irish neighborhood, the kind of neighborhood

477
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,640
that I grew up in. It was a big problem.

478
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,480
I mean it was. It was not oh, they're just whites. No, no, no,

479
00:29:32,599 --> 00:29:35,559
they weren't whites. They didn't speak English. They spoke this weird,

480
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,960
annoying language. And I'm telling you this from the perspective

481
00:29:40,039 --> 00:29:43,559
of what I grew up hearing. I remember growing up

482
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:46,640
and I grew up in a German neighborhood, although most

483
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,039
of my friends were Italian, but I was going to

484
00:29:48,079 --> 00:29:50,480
their neighborhood saying out with them. I grew up in

485
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:58,599
a German neighborhood. And when Pope Francis became the Pope,

486
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:05,079
I remember my neighbor going, oh, they elected the Indian,

487
00:30:06,839 --> 00:30:10,720
you know, meaning like Native American. She goes, oh, they

488
00:30:10,759 --> 00:30:15,079
elected an Indian to be the Pope. And I'm thinking,

489
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:21,279
and I'm going, hold on, Argentines, are Germans like you, right?

490
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,920
But they didn't see it that way, even though they

491
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,279
were Catholic, they did not see it that way. It

492
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:36,960
was New York for most of its history was particularist. Politically,

493
00:30:37,119 --> 00:30:41,680
it was particularist. It's only concern these ethnic neighborhoods. Only

494
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:46,440
concern was how well is our group doing in our neighborhood,

495
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:51,880
And for some reason doing that, it became the greatest

496
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,240
city in the world, the most powerful city in the world,

497
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,160
the most stable city in the world. I mean, after

498
00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,799
the riots during the Civil War, there was step until

499
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:07,160
the Civil Rights era there was market stability and prosperity. Again,

500
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,480
it must teach us something, I think it has to

501
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,240
teach us something about the way the big city has

502
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:16,599
to be organized in order to prosper and about how

503
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,920
that is changing. And the thing I guess, Pete that

504
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,160
I wonder is well, I don't really wonder, but it's

505
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,480
kind of a rhetorical thing to get your take on it.

506
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,279
New York City was great when it was a tribally

507
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:40,160
organized set of cells that consisted of largely European heritage groups,

508
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:49,720
including immigrants, small cells of black heritage Americans. These were

509
00:31:49,759 --> 00:31:52,799
not Africans, you know, they were coming from the South.

510
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:59,559
And the small, not very influential Hispanic community that was

511
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,599
one or two of the cells. And that was what

512
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,559
New York was made up with. Now will New York

513
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,480
prosper when that town that I grew up in, which

514
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:16,119
was solidly German, becomes solidly Venezuelan. That is to say,

515
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,519
is it the mixing that's the problem? Is it the

516
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:28,119
is it the kind of uh regime of multiculturalism that

517
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:32,240
is the problem, or is it the full replacement of

518
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:36,880
still mono ethnic groups. Because we love to talk about

519
00:32:37,079 --> 00:32:39,680
not WI, you and I, but there's a huge conversation

520
00:32:39,759 --> 00:32:44,799
that goes on about opposing multiculturalism as creating ethnic blocks.

521
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,440
I don't necessarily think you can do, which I think

522
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,119
this is the mind of you know, not the normy conservatives.

523
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,519
But let's say the Daily Wire, the most extreme of

524
00:32:55,559 --> 00:33:00,039
the Daily Wire guys, they go, well, you know, the

525
00:33:00,119 --> 00:33:03,039
Venezuelan neighborhood is fine. You go there, and you go

526
00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:05,920
to the Venezuelan neighborhood and that's where you get great

527
00:33:06,119 --> 00:33:08,880
Venezuelan food. And as long as they kind of keep

528
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,720
to themselves and you know, we whites we can kind

529
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,039
of keep to ourselves in this part of the neighborhood.

530
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:18,160
Is that really gonna work? Or was it because of

531
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,960
the composition of people at the time, not the architecture

532
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:27,319
and how the architecture isolates new groups of people. I

533
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,319
happen to think you look back and you go between

534
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:34,240
the nineteen tens and the nineteen sixties late fifties in

535
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:39,559
New York, and you go, yeah, the groups were ethnically segregated.

536
00:33:40,359 --> 00:33:45,880
But it's a matter of the total population of what worked.

537
00:33:46,559 --> 00:33:50,119
And so it's not really the architecture of separation that

538
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:55,279
I think seems to matter. It's obviously the composition. And

539
00:33:55,319 --> 00:33:58,039
this is something I think, like as we're you can

540
00:33:58,079 --> 00:34:00,279
see the right wing that's like, I don't know, you

541
00:34:00,319 --> 00:34:03,240
know me, I watch a lot of slop. I watch

542
00:34:03,319 --> 00:34:06,599
a lot of slop. I watch all those Daily Wire guys,

543
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,599
and you see all the Daily Wire guys. They're kind

544
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:14,119
of moving towards a more right wing rhetoric. But you know,

545
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,400
if you pushed him on it. And this includes Charlie

546
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,960
kirk Man, I mean, it really includes Charlie kirk who

547
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,360
I think was some of his ideas on Israel, in

548
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,920
the relationship with the Jewish cartel in this country, to

549
00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:32,280
the waspy you know, the waspy conservative movement. I think

550
00:34:32,559 --> 00:34:35,239
he was realizing like that was a one sided game.

551
00:34:36,519 --> 00:34:39,639
But I you know, you got this new guy. Have

552
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,920
you seen this new guy, Brylin Holly Hens, have you

553
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,920
seen this I don't even know if guy is the

554
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:45,519
right word.

555
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 1: Well, the way I describe him is is that he

556
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,519
was created in a test tube in Unit eighty two

557
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:57,519
hundred Intellivision to be a sex slave for all of

558
00:34:57,559 --> 00:35:01,480
the degenerate sodomites the in the city, and he just

559
00:35:01,519 --> 00:35:04,480
broke free and came to the United States.

560
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 2: Well, my theory is that he's Chinese. I'm sure you've

561
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,119
seen my theory about it. If you look at a

562
00:35:12,159 --> 00:35:14,840
picture of him next to a white person, there's no

563
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,559
way that he's not Chinese. I'm just saying that guy

564
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:21,239
is absolutely Chinese. But you see Brylan hollyand and the

565
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,440
people who back him. Ben Shapiro and his message to

566
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:28,840
the crowd recently was sure, we got to get more

567
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,599
legal immigration. You know, he's going we need more good

568
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:37,760
immigrants to come to this country. And listen, whatever you

569
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,079
think about immigrant, I don't hate immigrants at all. I

570
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,039
grew up in New York City. I'm as rootless and

571
00:35:43,079 --> 00:35:47,440
cosmopolitan as they get. I really am. But we can't

572
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:52,519
pretend here. I mean, we cannot pretend here. Samuel Huntington.

573
00:35:52,599 --> 00:35:55,239
One of Samuel Huntington's final works, I think it was

574
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,280
actually his last book, and it was the most prophetic

575
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,480
of them. It was called Who Are We. For a

576
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,440
while I wanted to do a series on it, and

577
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,760
I mean, the long story short of the thesis is,

578
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:10,440
you know the American idea, and look, maybe you're a libertarian, individualist,

579
00:36:10,559 --> 00:36:12,960
realist when it comes to the way you view the

580
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,800
function of the government, it's really just individuals in there

581
00:36:17,199 --> 00:36:20,719
who are pushing their own agendas and that's how politics manifest.

582
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,679
I'm partial to that issue. It's fine, but regardless. So

583
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,199
what I mean to say is, maybe it's not all

584
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:33,400
American idealism that matters. Right America is America is a

585
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:38,679
white Protestant nation founded on the principles of European of

586
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:44,400
English common law and European civil law. Right, So that's

587
00:36:44,599 --> 00:36:47,679
a notion that I would say even more hardline right

588
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,760
wingers believe, and that's the notion that they carry. And

589
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,159
Samuel Huntington's last book, Who Are We, one of the

590
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:58,039
things that it concerns itself with is so you have

591
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,920
to go along with the ideological view of America. I

592
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,960
don't necessarily go along with that view of America, but

593
00:37:03,159 --> 00:37:04,559
I know many people on the right too, so you'll

594
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:08,760
follow along just fine with it. Samuel Huntington is basically

595
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:19,320
saying America's systems, the bureaucracy, how it's built something deeper

596
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,920
than just the notions that we see when we walk

597
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:29,119
into the courtroom, the actual structure of it. What is

598
00:37:29,159 --> 00:37:35,039
going to happen when you enter the simulacrum phase of

599
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:40,199
American government where the people participating it don't even resemble

600
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,679
in theory the people who it was set up to

601
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,800
cater to. So as part of the conversation that Alexander

602
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:52,400
Dugan is always having, you know, what systems of government

603
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:56,639
are right for what people in the world. And obviously,

604
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,760
you know it's ridiculous to say we're just going to

605
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,960
go were there and make those Afghans democrats. And we

606
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,000
all knew that was retarded, right, excuse my French, we

607
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:11,920
all knew that that was retarded. But in America, it's

608
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,440
not just nation building abroad, right when you insert people

609
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,119
who are simply the system is simply not built to

610
00:38:18,119 --> 00:38:22,760
cater to what happens. Well, probably the same thing that

611
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,079
happened in Afghanistan when they tried to introduce democracy, they

612
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:28,960
spit on it. And then they kept doing the little

613
00:38:29,039 --> 00:38:31,960
dance with the men who addressed as women. They kept

614
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,960
doing their own thing. Afghans, they kept doing their own thing.

615
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,599
So when the people come in who the Anglo American

616
00:38:40,639 --> 00:38:44,119
system of government simply does not cater to by the

617
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,800
base nature of how different groups of people interact with

618
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,840
one another, Ethnic cartels form, ethnic superstitions take over. I mean,

619
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,960
this practically happened with Italians, you know. I mean this

620
00:38:58,039 --> 00:38:59,840
is not going to fool anybody who's old enough or

621
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,559
people who are woke to the issue, but the introduction

622
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,280
of Catholic ethic neighborhoods into New York. You know, you

623
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,119
can watch the movie Gangs of New York to see

624
00:39:09,639 --> 00:39:11,800
what kind of things were going on on the ground.

625
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,599
This is a fair depiction of what was going on

626
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,400
on the ground. It was chaos. It was total chaos.

627
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:23,079
And what moved in to solve that problem, well, the

628
00:39:23,159 --> 00:39:27,559
different ethnic groups didn't just segregate themselves. The police force

629
00:39:27,639 --> 00:39:31,039
came in to enforce that. And what happened in the

630
00:39:31,039 --> 00:39:33,920
civil rights regime in New York. The police came in

631
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:38,320
to enforce a new regime. And what is coming in

632
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,280
now to New York, Well, Mom, Donnie and Katari money.

633
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,800
And I look at the camera when I say Katari money.

634
00:39:45,559 --> 00:39:48,239
Katari money is now coming in to fill in the

635
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,159
void that has been left by the fact that New

636
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,360
York has totally disintegrated from the original systems and structures

637
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,679
like the Borough system, that were made and design to

638
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:06,559
accommodate that kind of ethnically organized and tribalized system. Now

639
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:10,679
you have Venezuelans, and you have Indians, and you have Chinese,

640
00:40:10,679 --> 00:40:13,920
and none of these people are going where we came from.

641
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,679
In our countries, there was no like town hall situation,

642
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,840
which was how Queens was organized. Town halls and queens

643
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,079
were a huge part of how things got up the

644
00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:28,960
political ladder. They don't organize this way. Churches, Catholic churches

645
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,280
and where I grew up in Queens were the center

646
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:36,000
of cultural life. There are no Catholic churches that the

647
00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:39,639
place where my father and his father and his father

648
00:40:39,679 --> 00:40:43,639
all went to school, Saint Pancras, is gone. It's been

649
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,079
it's gone, and I think they're replacing it with apartment

650
00:40:46,119 --> 00:40:51,840
buildings because the new you know, organizational system is building

651
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,559
by building basements. I saw this in Miami too. The

652
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,360
place where now the community goes to organize is in

653
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:02,239
the basement of the building that their residents in. It's

654
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,719
a highly particularized thing that is happening in New York.

655
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,960
And I do think this Mom Donnie guy is coming in,

656
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,760
you know, and they make sure that he goes out

657
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:15,400
there and he says all the things, We're going to

658
00:41:15,519 --> 00:41:19,400
arrest net and Yahoo, sure you are, buddy, Sure you are.

659
00:41:19,639 --> 00:41:23,800
Does anybody believe this? Does anybody really believe that the

660
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,119
Mamdanni thing is a communist takeo? And by communist, you know,

661
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:34,239
I mean it's a disintegratory rebellion against New York City.

662
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:37,360
How dumb have you got to be? Mam Donni is

663
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:42,079
the consolidator. It is precisely the fact that Mam Donnie

664
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:47,440
is a non factor, ethnically ambiguous know nothing that is

665
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,280
going to allow what really runs New York City, which

666
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,000
is to say, the workers' unions and the teachers union,

667
00:41:55,159 --> 00:41:58,840
which is increasingly becoming more and more lived hearted. This

668
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,559
is these So the fact that Mom Donnie is actually

669
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,400
an anti executive is precisely what New York is now

670
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,360
going to do to continue what it was that Bill

671
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,719
de Blasio was trying to do during COVID, which was

672
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:17,880
to create a new New York identity. Do you remember

673
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,639
during COVID all of the stuff that de Blasio was doing,

674
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,239
and I don't mean eating the French fries and shit.

675
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,159
Do you remember when we were coming out of the lockdowns,

676
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,440
there was this big Bill de Blasio plan with all

677
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:35,119
these fat women doing ballet, and he was going, We're

678
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:38,639
bringing art back to New York City. Do you remember this?

679
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,800
Do you remember that advertisement?

680
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: I don't remember that. I believe me, I would remember.

681
00:42:45,119 --> 00:42:49,639
Speaker 2: That We're bringing culture back and it's these fat, horrific

682
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:55,719
women doing ballet and stuff. They are realizing that New

683
00:42:55,800 --> 00:43:00,599
York City is going to collapse any day now because

684
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,119
there is no cultural solidarity left in the city. So

685
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,559
what they're planning on doing now is using the teachers' unions,

686
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,840
the public grocery stores. I mean, all of Mamdani's plan

687
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:16,480
is to make it so that the people who are

688
00:43:16,559 --> 00:43:19,920
now coming into New York City do not need to

689
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,239
have any kind of ethnic organization or solidarity with the

690
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:26,360
form of government. The government is going to give them

691
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:30,239
their means of survival, and they're going to power the

692
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,119
city's engine for long enough that they can be replaced

693
00:43:33,159 --> 00:43:37,000
by Tesla robots. That's the new plan. They realize that

694
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:42,159
because there's no ethnic solidarity left between neighborhoods, between religions

695
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,840
left in New York City, just put the Ugandan Muslim

696
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,039
guy in. Who is going to help us create public

697
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:52,840
grocery stores? Who is going to help us? What they

698
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,320
want to do is they want to raise the price

699
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:58,119
of the MTA and the subway system so high that

700
00:43:58,159 --> 00:43:59,840
they can make the argument it would be better that

701
00:44:00,039 --> 00:44:02,639
people just pay taxes for it. Because you remember, it's

702
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:06,400
only been thirty years since the MTA has been consolidated

703
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,400
into like one true company. I mean it was the

704
00:44:09,519 --> 00:44:11,760
ninety I don't know if you remember, but used to

705
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,840
take the Green Subway and the Red subway. Those were

706
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,679
different companies. They were fulfilling, you know, different orders. Well,

707
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:22,719
they consolidated into the MTA, and now they want to

708
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,320
make it the price of getting on a bus so

709
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:29,519
expensive that they can just pitch it that Okay, fine,

710
00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,360
we'll keep it at this stable price, but your taxes

711
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,079
will have to go up, you know, the endless creation

712
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,960
of the renter class in this country, the surfs that

713
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,679
the elites in New York basically need to run the

714
00:44:41,679 --> 00:44:44,719
city for long enough before they can replace them with robots.

715
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,320
I mean, that is what's coming, and that's what's really coming.

716
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,760
I hope not to be too conspiratorial here, but I mean,

717
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,559
think about it for one second. They tolerated as long

718
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,559
as they could the ethnic solidarity in New York by consequence,

719
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,559
you know, that was how they kept stability in New

720
00:45:01,639 --> 00:45:05,400
York before. But New York is total a narco tyranny now.

721
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:11,280
I mean I was up there, and you know it's

722
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:17,480
not crime. I mean, it's not violent crime that makes

723
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:21,559
up a narco tyranny always. I just I just finished

724
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,639
recording an episode of Mystery Babylon, which we do on

725
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:26,239
my Patreon. I did it with pause, and the subject

726
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:32,400
of the episode was the Masonic axiom order from chaos,

727
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,239
which you can sometimes see when you go into the

728
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,920
you know, the various halls of legislative power in our country,

729
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:42,599
you'll see that that axiom sometimes order out of chaos.

730
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:49,159
That's the real thing that's going on in New York

731
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:52,480
City is not violent crime, even though that's going up

732
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:55,239
because they need that in order to put more police

733
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:57,559
on the subway or to do all the shit that

734
00:45:57,599 --> 00:46:01,800
they want to do. The real order out of chaos

735
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,400
that's coming in the chaos is as we're driving, I

736
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:11,440
see fewer stores in the storefronts and more people with

737
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:17,639
trucks on the street selling shit, more stands where they

738
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:20,119
sell shitty T shirt. These migrants come in and they

739
00:46:20,119 --> 00:46:23,480
sell these shitty print T shirts and fake rolexes, and

740
00:46:23,639 --> 00:46:27,400
I mean all this bullshit, and I'm not kidding. Fewer

741
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:35,039
and fewer storefronts, actual propped up businesses like you would think, Uh, okay,

742
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:37,039
I gotta go get my car wash. Where do I go?

743
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:39,280
You go to a car wash In most cities, you

744
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,719
go to a car wash. My dad goes. I'll show

745
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,920
you where we get car washes. Now, and this isn't

746
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,800
the three years that I've been gone. Basically the three

747
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,559
or four years that I've been gone. He takes me

748
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:53,239
to this block, this street, which conveniently actually is near

749
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,800
that Jewish cemetery I've been talking about, because we're all

750
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,840
in this neighborhood, and going down the block is these

751
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,039
white vans of guys, and they make it known they

752
00:47:03,079 --> 00:47:07,280
all have Venezuela and flags like somewhere on their vehicles

753
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,639
because they're so proud to be from Venezuela. That's where

754
00:47:09,679 --> 00:47:14,360
they left. Certainly couldn't be a humiliation technique, right, So

755
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,159
they have these Venezuela flags, and I'm telling you ten

756
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,639
or twelve of these white vans, and each one of

757
00:47:21,679 --> 00:47:25,440
them has a huge water tank and a generator and

758
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,440
a sprayer and all this stuff. And it's two guys

759
00:47:28,519 --> 00:47:30,480
and they'll give you a full detailing and clean your

760
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:35,480
car forty bucks, forty dollars. And there's forty of these

761
00:47:35,519 --> 00:47:38,679
guys lined up on this long street. And I'm going

762
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,840
none of these guys have a license to be doing

763
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:44,960
this this And we've seen cop cars pass by. They

764
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,880
don't give a shit. No, their orders are this is

765
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:52,280
what's supposed to happen. And increasingly car washes are closing,

766
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:55,840
increasingly getting into a storefront. I mean, every business that

767
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:59,280
I liked, every restaurant I liked, is closed. But my goodness,

768
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,360
can you go to a hall loll cart and get

769
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:03,880
your shitty, you know, your rat with white sauce that

770
00:48:04,519 --> 00:48:06,559
they feed you. That's what you have now is your

771
00:48:06,559 --> 00:48:08,199
slop fed to you on the side of the road.

772
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:13,400
So this is the plan. Is it's increasingly the creation

773
00:48:13,599 --> 00:48:18,079
of chaos in order that they can swoop in at

774
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:23,039
some later time and consolidate again. And that's partially I

775
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:26,039
think what's going on right now in our country. In

776
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:28,639
many ways, they are now consolidating many things that the

777
00:48:28,679 --> 00:48:32,400
previous administration made chaos out of. That's how it's supposed

778
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:34,480
to work. Some way, they kind of will participate in

779
00:48:34,519 --> 00:48:37,400
the same dialectic. But that's the state of New York

780
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,480
now is. I know you said, Pete that you really

781
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,760
did never want to go back, but you know, if

782
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,480
you do go back, I want you to look for chaos.

783
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:49,800
And I don't mean violent crime, and I don't mean

784
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,119
that kind of stuff. I mean just on the street.

785
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:55,480
And I don't even mean traffic. I mean stuff that

786
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,840
didn't happen twenty years ago. Situations of like people selling

787
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,159
shit on the street and garbage just everywhere all over

788
00:49:05,199 --> 00:49:07,320
the street because I guess they don't run garbage all

789
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,559
the time anymore in many places. And so this is

790
00:49:10,599 --> 00:49:14,079
what is happening in you know, the Golden American City,

791
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:17,400
like the greatest American city without a doubt, And so

792
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,679
don't think like when Mom Dannie is coming in, that

793
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:25,320
this is some kind of socialist upheaval of an otherwise

794
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,280
orderly city.

795
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:27,039
Speaker 1: It is.

796
00:49:27,159 --> 00:49:31,679
Speaker 2: It is one hundred percent a continuation of de Blasio.

797
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,559
It is one hundred a continuation of before de Blasio.

798
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,519
Really it was Mayor Adams. It was Eric Adams who

799
00:49:39,559 --> 00:49:42,239
was kind of like the law and order guide. They

800
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,599
pushed it too far, and then he came in and

801
00:49:44,639 --> 00:49:48,480
he instituted a kind of unspoken stop and frisk because

802
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,920
they could finally sell it to all of the like

803
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,719
new minorities who come in, like the Indians and things

804
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,320
like that, the people who are now getting robbed and going,

805
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,519
wait a minute, we're supposed to live in this country

806
00:49:59,519 --> 00:50:02,360
without any fear of anything. So they finally bring the

807
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,559
law and order guy back in. He cleans up a

808
00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:07,480
few things, then they catch him on some corruption charge,

809
00:50:07,679 --> 00:50:10,920
push him out, and guess what the corruption charge is?

810
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,519
The excuse that they used to go, we need a

811
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:17,519
new kind of politician, Mom Donnie, and they push Mom

812
00:50:17,559 --> 00:50:19,920
Donnie and guess what Mom Donnie is. He was a

813
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:25,440
school he was a student president. That's his qualifications that

814
00:50:25,519 --> 00:50:28,480
he was a student president at his school. He's going

815
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:31,079
to do exactly what they want, which is to say

816
00:50:31,519 --> 00:50:35,039
kind of sign documents and go okay, I guess so.

817
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,880
And that's the choice that you've been given. The other

818
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,400
choice if you didn't want mom, Donnie, is you a guy,

819
00:50:41,639 --> 00:50:44,480
Get a guy like Andrew Cuomo who wears nipple rings

820
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:50,440
and brags about having anal sex with prostitutes and things

821
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,760
like that, So you can have that or the other thing.

822
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,199
And either way New York will just continue the way

823
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,360
that it was supposed to go along. You know, that's

824
00:50:58,360 --> 00:50:59,440
the salads designed.

825
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, this can't happen unless people and groups start

826
00:51:06,039 --> 00:51:11,880
falling apart social there's no social cohesion. So we talked about,

827
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,320
you know, nineteen fifty sixty five in the Civil Rights Act.

828
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:21,079
But something else happened in nineteen sixty five that I

829
00:51:21,199 --> 00:51:25,119
wonder if you know, it wasn't something that you know,

830
00:51:25,199 --> 00:51:30,639
maybe not immediately, but eventually snowballed and snowballed and led

831
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:36,679
to even less social cohesion amongst a religious group that

832
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:40,880
was even you know, even when you have even when

833
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:46,599
the teachers' union is sixty percent Jewish, this other this

834
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,239
other group has a lot of power in that city.

835
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,960
But it seems like everything since nineteen sixty five, because

836
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:56,599
nineteen sixty five was, you know, a war on not

837
00:51:56,679 --> 00:52:03,639
only they know, basically instituting a race warr instated a

838
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:09,639
race war, but also to try to weaken a church

839
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:14,840
that had very very strong ties in the community.

840
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 2: I think you're totally right. I don't know if you

841
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:19,960
want me to not name the thing that we're talking about,

842
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,760
but I'll have to do it. And that is why

843
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,760
you're talking about that, I know, Yeah, that is why

844
00:52:25,519 --> 00:52:28,119
you know. The Vatican two was started under Pope John

845
00:52:28,119 --> 00:52:30,760
the twenty third, but it was finished under Pope Paul

846
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,719
the sixth. But that's the thing that we need to remember,

847
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,320
is that it was finished under Pope Paul the sixth.

848
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,159
He was the second president of Vatican two. And it's

849
00:52:39,199 --> 00:52:43,880
not a coincidence that Vatican two occurs in nineteen sixty

850
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:48,559
five and at the very same time the Catholic Legion

851
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:51,480
of Decency, which was founded in nineteen thirty three, and

852
00:52:51,559 --> 00:52:54,760
it led to a golden age of film and not

853
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:55,800
just a golden age of fame.

854
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: But the Hayes Code is slowly is slowly being phased

855
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,320
at at that point, you know, nineteen sixty eight it's

856
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,000
completely abolished.

857
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 2: That's right. And well, in nineteen sixty five it was reorganized.

858
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:13,360
The Catholic Film Decency League was reorganized, it was reorganized

859
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,440
into the National Catholic Office for Motion Pictures. And what

860
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,039
that meant was it was reorganized in a manner that

861
00:53:20,199 --> 00:53:24,000
undermined it completely, because by nineteen eighty it ceased to exist.

862
00:53:24,199 --> 00:53:28,440
Fifteen years, it lasted, ceased to exist, and people forget that,

863
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:32,480
you know, for all the all the wasps rag on Catholics,

864
00:53:32,679 --> 00:53:35,440
I mean, between nineteen thirty three and nineteen sixty five,

865
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,559
Catholics were ensuring that all of the films in Hollywood

866
00:53:40,159 --> 00:53:44,320
ascribed to a certain code of decency which was totally unobjectionable.

867
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,519
And not only was it unobjectionable, but look at what

868
00:53:47,559 --> 00:53:51,559
you get immediately afterwards, I mean immediately afterwards, once it

869
00:53:51,639 --> 00:53:54,679
ceases by nineteen eighty you have MTV and look, I'm

870
00:53:54,679 --> 00:53:57,880
not I love rock and roll. It's demonic, though, I

871
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,559
mean is it is demonic, and it is meant to

872
00:54:01,679 --> 00:54:06,400
replace moral decency. So like, I get it, you know,

873
00:54:06,719 --> 00:54:10,079
but this is what the plan was all along. And

874
00:54:10,119 --> 00:54:12,800
I don't mean that literally in terms of Vatican two,

875
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,239
although I have my issues with I mean, I think

876
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,239
it's in arguable that the mission of Vatican two was

877
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:22,440
to appeal to a modern person and get more people

878
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,920
in the seats. That was the mission. It's unequivocally failed

879
00:54:26,320 --> 00:54:28,039
in that mission. So I don't you know, you can

880
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,159
say whatever you want. There are people who will detract

881
00:54:30,239 --> 00:54:32,000
and say it was heretical. There are people will say

882
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,719
it wasn't heretical. It was a total failure. And that's

883
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:37,760
where I certainly stayed. It was a total, absolute failure,

884
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,360
and it led to as you as you say, it

885
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,880
led to the solidarity breakup of Catholics throughout the country.

886
00:54:45,079 --> 00:54:47,320
And it's at the same time that all of the

887
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,960
Catholic enclaves start to deplete. You can see in Philadelphia

888
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,800
nineteen sixty five begins the tumbling away of that generation

889
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,440
of Catholics in that city from their solidarity. Same thing

890
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,599
goes on in New York. It actually takes a little

891
00:55:04,639 --> 00:55:06,639
bit longer. In New York, at least in my experience,

892
00:55:06,639 --> 00:55:09,519
there were still strongly Polish Catholic neighborhoods. But the thing

893
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:13,840
about Polish Catholics is they speak Polish at home. That

894
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,559
was almost the issue with Italians until Italians decided, okay,

895
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:22,880
we will speak English at home. I know kids growing

896
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,400
up I grew up in the two thousands who spoke

897
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,639
Polish as their primary language. Their grandparents came over to America,

898
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,079
they spoke Polish at home in their primary language. So

899
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,920
there is kind of a cutoff, a borderline, if you will,

900
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:41,239
of where it becomes inexplicable to be able to continue

901
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,440
the stability that we had in this country between nineteen

902
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,679
thirty three and nineteen sixty five, and again even by

903
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,559
nineteen sixty five, things are really crumbling. But you brought

904
00:55:50,599 --> 00:55:52,440
up a Vatican too, and that really is like, in

905
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,000
my opinion, it wasn't the start of a new era.

906
00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:57,800
It was kind of the capstone of the previous era.

907
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:00,480
We kind of haven't found our way into the new

908
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:04,400
Catholic era yet in my opinion. Maybe that'll change, But yeah,

909
00:56:04,519 --> 00:56:08,119
I think that's You're absolutely right. And I'm not knowledgeable

910
00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:11,039
enough on Protestant happenings to know if a similar thing

911
00:56:11,079 --> 00:56:13,920
occurred in Protestantism in the sixties, but I know the

912
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,800
thing that kind of occurred to everybody was, you know,

913
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:23,920
the Summer of Love. Whatever the schools thought were everything

914
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:33,599
converged on the mass proliferation of ultraliberal culture into I

915
00:56:33,599 --> 00:56:36,719
actually actually say ultra libertine culture is probably the more

916
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,280
appropriate way to put it into the mainstream. You know,

917
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:44,119
the watershed rule. Everything is going on to the point where, yeah,

918
00:56:44,159 --> 00:56:48,960
now we're in a fully desacralized and overly sexualized country,

919
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:54,199
and I think you do start to see a pull back.

920
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:59,280
But I do wonder I've talked about this with Aaron,

921
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,719
my lovely co host. We're going to be doing in

922
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:06,039
twenty twenty six a kind of a semi satirical series

923
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,800
of episodes of debates that were going to hold because

924
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,599
what we came to the conclusion of was, again, this

925
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,760
is satirical. But by twenty sixty five, you probably will

926
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,760
have such an atomization of people that you will get

927
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:28,239
these kind of overlapping polycentric governance forms within the country,

928
00:57:29,199 --> 00:57:32,159
so that you'll have we said, in like in the

929
00:57:32,159 --> 00:57:35,960
Atlanta area, you'll kind of have like the Black reservation

930
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:38,880
of people, and that will be like the cultural center

931
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,599
of a new Black America. And then we had like

932
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,000
what's going to go on in the Northeast, what's going

933
00:57:44,039 --> 00:57:46,880
to go on in California? And I really think it

934
00:57:48,159 --> 00:57:53,239
if if total atomization of ethnic groups is occurring in

935
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:57,119
the cities, I mean, what do you think is going

936
00:57:57,199 --> 00:58:00,199
to happen in the area where you live? You know,

937
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:04,199
the area where you live is going to respond similarly,

938
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,840
and it's going to become a place that offers not

939
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,599
an older way of American life, but a kind of

940
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,280
and I mean, I use the term for lack of

941
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,199
a better one, a kind of way of life that's

942
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:23,639
vaccinated from the problems going on in big city America,

943
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,679
which I think comes with its own, you know issues.

944
00:58:27,719 --> 00:58:30,280
I mean, for instance, what do you think of the

945
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:34,320
project of I think his name is Nicholas Arval, the

946
00:58:34,519 --> 00:58:36,960
project of going back to the Land? I mean, what

947
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,239
do you think about that in terms of a project

948
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,679
a response to what is inevitably happening in the big

949
00:58:43,719 --> 00:58:44,639
cities in America.

950
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,159
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, he seems like he's found a loophole

951
00:58:50,199 --> 00:58:53,800
in the law to be able to escape, you know,

952
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,960
the fact that we don't have freedom of association anymore.

953
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,639
I mean, I think that that's going to happen. I

954
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:03,360
think that it's pretty much inevitable. I know a lot

955
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:07,119
of people, you know, don't want to give up the

956
00:59:07,159 --> 00:59:10,199
cities and I would never tell them to. I just

957
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:12,119
don't want to live in a city anymore. It's just

958
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:15,920
not conducive to my health. I mean, I just I

959
00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:18,320
feel a whole lot more healthy out living out in

960
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:21,039
the middle of nowhere. So you know, I used to

961
00:59:21,079 --> 00:59:24,639
tell people leave the cities. Leave the cities. I'm you know,

962
00:59:24,679 --> 00:59:28,519
and if it's for you, it's for you. If you

963
00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:31,199
want to stay and fight for the cities, you know

964
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,760
it's not. But you know, I mean that leads me

965
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,400
to another quot But that leads you to another question.

966
00:59:37,679 --> 00:59:42,679
Is if you do take that like to do what

967
00:59:42,719 --> 00:59:48,559
they're doing with return to the land in Arkansas, do

968
00:59:48,679 --> 00:59:56,239
you you think and I'm asking you, Orto, are things

969
00:59:56,280 --> 01:00:02,800
going to get better? I'm you know, I see, well,

970
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:08,559
I hear a lot of lip service from Trump about

971
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,360
taking down these networks of you know, leftist ultra violence

972
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:21,239
and violence. But if that doesn't happen, I mean, there's

973
01:00:21,239 --> 01:00:24,679
no telling what twenty twenty eight is going to bring.

974
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:28,320
Even if jd Vance does get you know, elected, or

975
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:32,519
somebody else in the in the Republican sphere gets elected,

976
01:00:33,360 --> 01:00:39,000
there's no guarantee that they're going to, you know, try

977
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:44,559
to do it. And you still have to answer the question.

978
01:00:45,639 --> 01:00:48,599
The question still needs to be addressed when you have

979
01:00:48,639 --> 01:00:52,199
a managerial regime that's been going on for almost one

980
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:58,079
hundred years now, can that be fixed without tearing it out?

981
01:00:58,159 --> 01:01:00,519
Rot you know in step.

982
01:01:02,199 --> 01:01:06,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm of the opinion that it can't. Yeah, can,

983
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:09,719
and can? I say to you, I know what you

984
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,239
mean when you say can it be fixed? Because you're

985
01:01:13,239 --> 01:01:16,320
talking about from your perspective, can this machine be be

986
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,000
made to do something I wanted to do? But yeah,

987
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,559
I would. I would also I would also argue. I

988
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:27,360
would also argue, yeah, is it broken? And I don't

989
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:30,880
think that it is. I think it's doing exactly what again.

990
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:37,119
I people, actually, everybody has been very accommodating of in

991
01:01:37,159 --> 01:01:40,400
the past year Pause and I have embarked on this

992
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,800
very long journey to listen to the radio series Hour

993
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:48,920
of the Time, specifically Bill Cooper's Mystery Babylon section, which

994
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,320
makes up about forty somethings episodes, and yeah, it's it's

995
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,360
a lot of people don't like woo woo, and I

996
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,199
get that, I really do. But everybody's been very accommodating

997
01:01:58,199 --> 01:02:03,119
of our exploration of it, because, in my opinion, the

998
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,800
system is working exactly as it's designed to work, because

999
01:02:07,360 --> 01:02:11,159
the thing that elites are concerned most about is their

1000
01:02:11,199 --> 01:02:17,960
own survival and the maintenance of their particular factions control.

1001
01:02:18,199 --> 01:02:20,440
So I don't tend to think elites are one thing.

1002
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,719
I think this is where a lot of people get

1003
01:02:21,719 --> 01:02:23,840
it wrong. I think there's factions of elites that we

1004
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,360
circulate through. And in my opinion, if you just go

1005
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,599
by what they tell you at the top of the

1006
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:36,760
Masonic Lodge order from Chaos, then I would answer you

1007
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:38,719
that the machine that you say is broken, that you'd

1008
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,800
like to fix and turn towards you, actually isn't broken

1009
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,599
at all and is doing exactly what they want it

1010
01:02:44,679 --> 01:02:48,440
to do, which is to manufacture crises to the point

1011
01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:53,199
where they can consolidate their power into a singular unitary state,

1012
01:02:54,039 --> 01:03:00,000
a singular unitary currency, a singular unitary religion, and eventually

1013
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:04,480
a singular unitary race. I think that's exactly what they want.

1014
01:03:04,559 --> 01:03:07,760
I think, and again you can say, well, this is

1015
01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,840
very pie in the sky. Listen. I welcome you to

1016
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:14,719
listen to the thirty something episodes of coverage of Mystery

1017
01:03:14,719 --> 01:03:16,400
Babylon that Pause and I have done where we don't

1018
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:19,800
just listen to Bill. I try to update Bill with

1019
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,719
my thoughts and on that I've done. Therefore, thirty hours

1020
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,960
actually closer probably to fifty, because we go about an

1021
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,000
hour and a half each, sometimes two. I've detailed what

1022
01:03:30,119 --> 01:03:33,480
I think the kind of natural progression that our elites

1023
01:03:34,360 --> 01:03:37,119
have in mind. It looks like, and I think it

1024
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:40,320
very much looks like, a single nation, unitary, and a

1025
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,599
single currency, and a single religion and a single race.

1026
01:03:44,159 --> 01:03:48,199
So the kind of melting pot idea which was inserted

1027
01:03:48,199 --> 01:03:50,199
to our national mythos in the kind of what I

1028
01:03:50,239 --> 01:03:53,440
call the second birth of America. You know, not Heritage Americans,

1029
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,960
not Civil War Americans, but Ellis Island Americans. Going further,

1030
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:03,199
that plan has always been to make one race out

1031
01:04:03,239 --> 01:04:05,519
of America. It has not always been to kind of

1032
01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:09,800
keep everybody separate. That was the first plan in America's Yeah,

1033
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:13,440
maybe we can have a Roman Empire style America where

1034
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,320
every group has its own nation. Basically, just replace the Indians,

1035
01:04:17,719 --> 01:04:20,679
who are a very different tribal nations that war with

1036
01:04:20,679 --> 01:04:22,840
one another, make peace with one another, trade with one another,

1037
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,239
and otherwise live in their own splot. Let's just replace

1038
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:27,719
them with the ethnic groups that we need to do

1039
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,880
the work. We need to make this country the great work.

1040
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:33,599
The Second America came in and said, well, yeah, but

1041
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:37,119
we got to incorporate theosophy. We can't just do masonry now,

1042
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:40,639
we need to do the one root race, the singular religion,

1043
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:43,840
mark of the beast. We need one currency. And again

1044
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,519
a lot of this is stressed in like this occult,

1045
01:04:46,639 --> 01:04:49,719
exaggeratory language. But this is the plan, I mean, and

1046
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,719
if you don't believe it's the plan, what is international communism?

1047
01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:57,280
There has been real experiments to do this. I mean,

1048
01:04:57,320 --> 01:05:00,920
the Chinese are at the forefront of a fully integratory

1049
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:04,159
system where one day everybody will be Chinese. How do

1050
01:05:04,239 --> 01:05:07,400
I know that because the actual Han ethnic group of

1051
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,039
Chinese people it's only about three hundred million people. So

1052
01:05:11,079 --> 01:05:13,280
why are there a billion and a half Hans. Well,

1053
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,320
it's because they changed the definition to make everybody Han.

1054
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,920
That's international communism. That's what they want to do here.

1055
01:05:20,239 --> 01:05:23,039
They want to replace the first system of America with

1056
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:26,639
the second one, which is international communism integrated under one

1057
01:05:26,719 --> 01:05:30,320
unitary form. That's how they consolidate their power. And they're

1058
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,920
using New York as an experiment to do that. Momdani

1059
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,159
is coming in to see if they can both we

1060
01:05:37,159 --> 01:05:39,480
can get everybody eating the same shit from our stupid

1061
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:42,840
public grocery stores. Everybody lives in a rent controlled house

1062
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:45,119
where they have their kids that live there and their

1063
01:05:45,199 --> 01:05:48,840
kids that live there. They've created China. I mean, they've

1064
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:53,760
created the Kowloon Walled City. That's like the ideal experiment,

1065
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,320
you know that that they the elites would like. So

1066
01:05:58,599 --> 01:06:01,880
I know that the kind of journey that I've been on,

1067
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,920
people go, well, what about the Jews? And because you know,

1068
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,280
as we've talked about it on the show, the Jews

1069
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:11,639
control even everything, right, Pete. I mean they control everything

1070
01:06:11,679 --> 01:06:14,280
at all times, in all moments. No other group could

1071
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,440
ever possibly be working with them or along. So it's

1072
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,159
all just one thing. Look at that one thing. Please

1073
01:06:19,719 --> 01:06:20,320
that one thing.

1074
01:06:20,639 --> 01:06:23,519
Speaker 1: Please please say psych because people somebody.

1075
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,199
Speaker 2: I think I'm serious. Yeah, yeah, no, that that too, Listener,

1076
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:33,639
is a gigantic distraction. Is these uh cosmically Israel brand.

1077
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:36,280
I mean, there's way more going on. You got to

1078
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:37,079
pay attention to the.

1079
01:06:37,079 --> 01:06:39,679
Speaker 1: Other one's going on. There's way more going on. But

1080
01:06:39,719 --> 01:06:42,079
I mean you have to admit if there is one,

1081
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:46,679
if there's a foreign entity to the United States to

1082
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:51,320
the founding, you know, the first United States that has

1083
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:56,760
basically taking over, not taken over like taken over, but

1084
01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:02,719
has instilled their ideology of the culture of critique into everything.

1085
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:07,800
It's them, Well yeah, I mean it is yeah, but

1086
01:07:08,039 --> 01:07:10,920
yo too came from somewhere.

1087
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,519
Speaker 2: What what you know? This is a that's I mean,

1088
01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:16,119
that's the kind of thing is. At first it was

1089
01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:25,760
a magical system. It's now become a political system.

1090
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:25,159
Speaker 1: Right and you know you can if you want to

1091
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:30,000
see what the end result of the Kabbala system is,

1092
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:32,159
well look at Gaza city right.

1093
01:07:32,039 --> 01:07:35,599
Speaker 2: Now, right, or what it will look like in five

1094
01:07:35,719 --> 01:07:38,760
years if this ridiculous plan that for some I don't

1095
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:42,199
even have Hamas really accepted the plan? Who is Hamas?

1096
01:07:42,960 --> 01:07:48,079
Can someone answer me that question? Who? Who? Do you remember?

1097
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:51,639
Speaker 1: Do you remember when they were bringing out the when? When?

1098
01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,880
When when Jewish Twitter flipped out? When they were bringing

1099
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,559
out some hostages and they brought out like you can

1100
01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:01,679
see it was obviously it was a child in a

1101
01:08:01,719 --> 01:08:04,920
cop It was a child sized coffin by a bunch

1102
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:09,719
of guys who were all wearing completely brand new creased uniforms.

1103
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,079
I know, and with AK forty seven's that have like

1104
01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:17,399
a cogs on them, right, And I'm sitting there going,

1105
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:23,560
so these guys are living underground in brand new uniforms

1106
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,439
with twelve hundred dollars sites on their a k's that

1107
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:33,239
just happened to be fit befit with Midwest industries like

1108
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:38,000
dust covers, rail dust covers. Okay, sure, why not?

1109
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1110
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,560
Speaker 1: It's when you ask me who Hamas is? Yeah, I

1111
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:44,920
have no fucking clue.

1112
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:49,119
Speaker 2: Nobody is Hama. I mean everybody and nobody is Hamas.

1113
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:53,520
There is not a group called Hamas. So the guys

1114
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,880
that they blew up when they were negotiating with them,

1115
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,239
who was that? This is like what honestly, dude, It's

1116
01:08:59,239 --> 01:09:02,439
like what the American government did when they were negotiating

1117
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,840
with the Indians. They would go into an area where

1118
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,319
the Indians were and they would go you're the boss, right,

1119
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:12,199
and some guy would go uh yeah, and they would

1120
01:09:12,199 --> 01:09:14,880
go you want one hundred dollars for all this land, right,

1121
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:18,920
and the one guy would go yes, yes, I do,

1122
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:21,119
and then they would send a letter out they would

1123
01:09:21,119 --> 01:09:24,520
go Okay, everybody time to move this guy. Your chief

1124
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:28,039
sold this land, and everybody's going our chief. That's what's

1125
01:09:28,039 --> 01:09:31,119
going on. In Gaza right now with Hamas, everybody's going,

1126
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,920
who is Hamas? Because you killed Heniya, who was only

1127
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:41,359
the representative of kind of one arm of the Palestinian people. Now,

1128
01:09:41,399 --> 01:09:45,279
who is Hamas? Nobody? So when they go oh Amas

1129
01:09:45,319 --> 01:09:48,840
has accepted the deal? Am I supposed to go, well,

1130
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:51,479
I believe that because that's what it says on the internet.

1131
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:54,439
I'm not in in Gaza.

1132
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:55,119
Speaker 1: How do we know?

1133
01:09:55,119 --> 01:09:59,119
Speaker 2: People aren't going around in Gaza going who accepted this?

1134
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:02,640
Who is that? They do that already? I mean there's

1135
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:04,720
two million people there already. If you go on the

1136
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:09,760
ground and you go, uh, who's a Hamas commander, they

1137
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:14,359
would go, I don't know, and we don't know their names.

1138
01:10:14,399 --> 01:10:16,840
We don't elect them, all right, and they go it

1139
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:21,880
was an election. They elected Hamas? Who elected who? Who

1140
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,840
elected who? It's just such a fake so that you're

1141
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,880
when you say look at Gaza city, I say further

1142
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,720
to you. And this is not new. AA is talking

1143
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,479
about this, and or and everybody's talking about this. Candace

1144
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:41,359
is talking about this, this, Larry Ellison and Tony Blair

1145
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:47,279
are now involved. That is what it's gonna look like. Okay,

1146
01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:52,359
in ten years they are trying on Gaza. Now what

1147
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,800
New York will look like in fifteen years, twenty years,

1148
01:10:56,520 --> 01:11:01,479
biometric security state, and you know what, it's probably going

1149
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:05,359
to be better for the quote Palestinians in the biometric

1150
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:09,399
security state than it was in the open genocide period.

1151
01:11:10,079 --> 01:11:13,520
But they're only doing that as a testing ground. This

1152
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,640
is essentially when you know, they get out there and

1153
01:11:16,680 --> 01:11:19,600
the North Koreans are doing their military strategy runs, you know,

1154
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,680
and they're blobbing missiles like a mile off of the

1155
01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,880
coast of Japan. Because what they will do is we're going, Okay,

1156
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:28,520
we know if we can do it there, we can

1157
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,760
just lob it one mile further and we're good to go.

1158
01:11:31,119 --> 01:11:33,920
And that's what they're doing in Gaza. They're going, well,

1159
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:38,920
if we can control like a highly radicalized group of

1160
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,640
people with biometric data and so we know where they

1161
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:45,399
all are. I mean, what is palenteer paler? The point

1162
01:11:45,399 --> 01:11:48,520
of palenteer is that it's meant to predict when crime

1163
01:11:48,560 --> 01:11:52,720
will happen. They're going to unload that people were going, oh,

1164
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:55,119
we couldn't find the guy who killed Charlie Kirk. What's

1165
01:11:55,199 --> 01:11:58,319
Palentier doing. I don't know. Think about what you just

1166
01:11:58,399 --> 01:12:02,680
said think about what you just said. If Palenteer didn't

1167
01:12:02,720 --> 01:12:06,000
find the guy, maybe it's because Palenteer wasn't being used

1168
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,279
to find the actual guy. I don't know. That's what

1169
01:12:10,319 --> 01:12:13,840
they're trying to do. And it is people turn off

1170
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,199
because they go, this is black pilling or this is

1171
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,279
you know, real conspiracy, this is cuckoo stuff. It's really

1172
01:12:20,319 --> 01:12:23,680
not cuckoo stuff. They've been talking about this since Agenda

1173
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,840
twenty one in nineteen ninety three. You know, they have

1174
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,239
been talking about the one New World Order, which is

1175
01:12:30,279 --> 01:12:33,760
where do you think country is that coming out of hours?

1176
01:12:34,079 --> 01:12:37,159
It's coming out of our country, that idea, and it's

1177
01:12:37,199 --> 01:12:42,279
been that idea since who knows, probably the first America.

1178
01:12:43,720 --> 01:12:47,920
So we shouldn't be naive about who the players are

1179
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,439
and we you know, I think one thing, one power

1180
01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:57,319
that Trump had was that he was so charismatic that

1181
01:12:57,359 --> 01:13:03,039
he made everybody go, oh, this team is the good team.

1182
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:07,720
And you see, like this team is the good team.

1183
01:13:09,239 --> 01:13:13,239
Slowly is moving into the Republican Party as the good

1184
01:13:13,279 --> 01:13:18,880
team because people are rhetorically mixing things up. People are

1185
01:13:19,079 --> 01:13:24,119
finding themselves as like, no, we're the real Republicans. You know,

1186
01:13:24,359 --> 01:13:27,159
this is the new thing that people are being shoved into.

1187
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:31,800
There's an old GOP and there's a new GOP, and

1188
01:13:31,840 --> 01:13:36,720
we're that new GOP, Baby Trump twenty twenty five. And

1189
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:40,520
you're going, so you're a part of the dialectic now,

1190
01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:46,600
so you're a part of the system's internal mechanism to

1191
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:51,880
constantly maintain its own security. Where do you think that's

1192
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:56,520
going to lead to the thirty five million necessary deportations?

1193
01:13:57,399 --> 01:14:00,960
They went out there and Tom Homan is going, well,

1194
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,239
there's three million people who have deported, two point one

1195
01:14:04,279 --> 01:14:10,359
million self deports, And you're going, how do you know?

1196
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:15,479
How do you know they filled their paperwork out? You're

1197
01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:18,880
gonna tell me that app there's two point one million

1198
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:23,279
or whatever it was people who self deported. What a

1199
01:14:23,319 --> 01:14:25,640
crock of shit that is? I'll tell you certainly. I

1200
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:27,760
was just up in New York and I go down

1201
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:30,640
to Miami all the time. I don't know who self deported.

1202
01:14:31,399 --> 01:14:33,199
All the neighborhoods that I knew of that were like

1203
01:14:33,319 --> 01:14:37,279
illegal hangouts are still full. So I don't know what

1204
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:41,960
people self deported. I tell you, you know, more and more

1205
01:14:42,039 --> 01:14:45,239
I become I wouldn't call it conspiratory. It just you

1206
01:14:45,279 --> 01:14:50,039
got to remember that old phrase, it's a big club

1207
01:14:50,079 --> 01:14:52,199
and you're not in it. I mean, it didn't go away.

1208
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:55,039
It didn't go away. Now, I'm not saying don't trust

1209
01:14:55,079 --> 01:14:59,600
anything you hear, but I am saying, consider that the

1210
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:04,520
guy who you know in quotes are your enemy, you know,

1211
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,680
really are part of a dialectic to the guys who

1212
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,560
quote are your friend. And where is that dialectic going.

1213
01:15:12,359 --> 01:15:15,520
I mean you can say, I think you can say, well,

1214
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,000
we're taking this country back, we're breaking the dialectic. You

1215
01:15:20,039 --> 01:15:22,560
want to hope that right, But I mean, what have

1216
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,479
you done? You know, what have you done that's actually

1217
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,720
undermined the way the country's currently going into being a

1218
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:34,960
A A A I mean technocratic led a biometric shithole.

1219
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,520
What's done it? Because in California, Gavin Newsom just made

1220
01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:42,960
it illegal for tech companies to hold people's data after

1221
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,960
the deletion of accounts. And people are going yay freedom

1222
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:50,039
or people are going, oh, what is this guy doing

1223
01:15:50,399 --> 01:15:52,600
he hates the free market. No, what he's doing is

1224
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:56,840
he's forcing California companies to delete the data of the

1225
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:03,000
Anarco terrorists who operate running their counts. That's what he

1226
01:16:03,119 --> 01:16:08,720
wants to do. He is part of the terror that

1227
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,560
Trump is now going to come in and use the

1228
01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:13,720
insurrection acting and say, guess what, they're real terrorists. They are,

1229
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,319
and they really I want nothing more than that one

1230
01:16:17,399 --> 01:16:20,439
street in Portland. I want them to just run the

1231
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:23,199
kill dozer through it. Every time I see it. I

1232
01:16:23,239 --> 01:16:25,199
want them to just run the kill doozer through it.

1233
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:31,760
But I have to remember like that just because that

1234
01:16:32,039 --> 01:16:34,640
team is on TV and they're showing it to you

1235
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:39,720
and going, look, a civil war in America? You know,

1236
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:46,399
is that really the big problem right now? Because I

1237
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,760
see a lot of other issues for men of our

1238
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:56,880
concerns going on than like a street worth of you know, Antifa.

1239
01:16:57,359 --> 01:17:02,199
It's it's pro wrestling. It's like Triple H running out

1240
01:17:02,199 --> 01:17:04,000
there and hitting somebody with a chair, is what it

1241
01:17:04,039 --> 01:17:06,239
feels like sometimes you I don't know if you saw

1242
01:17:06,319 --> 01:17:09,000
Nick Shirley's videos on YouTube or some of the people

1243
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,800
who go with the camera. The new girl who's the

1244
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,920
new Michelle Malkin, whatever her name is, Savannah Hernandez. They

1245
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,680
go out there and they they put the camera in

1246
01:17:17,720 --> 01:17:19,880
the face of these crazy lips, and the crazy lips

1247
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,880
stick their tongue on and they go that Satan and

1248
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:28,079
you're supposed to go Is this is this really the problem? Like,

1249
01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,880
couldn't Ice just kill all these people if they wanted.

1250
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,079
I mean, I see they shoot people in the head

1251
01:17:34,079 --> 01:17:36,520
with the but they can do whatever they want. Is

1252
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,119
this really a problem or is it the problem seems

1253
01:17:39,159 --> 01:17:41,600
to be handled. I mean, they're out there, they're not

1254
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:45,199
throwing fire bombs, they haven't killed anybody. Is this really

1255
01:17:45,279 --> 01:17:47,840
a problem or is this part of a show? Is

1256
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,039
this a containment mechanism to let people steam off?

1257
01:17:55,159 --> 01:17:57,319
Speaker 1: I said the other day the thing that I was

1258
01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:02,720
most worried about was the fact that you declare war

1259
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,760
at home. Now, I'm going to say this with with

1260
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,439
the caveat that I have no clue, but you know,

1261
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:14,199
I heard from somebody in an industry that would know

1262
01:18:15,359 --> 01:18:19,640
that we're like imminently there's an imminent strike coming against

1263
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:21,800
a country by the United States is going to be

1264
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:28,079
eminently striking a country. And what I said was that

1265
01:18:28,359 --> 01:18:33,199
at home, you can say, oh, we're declaring war on

1266
01:18:33,239 --> 01:18:37,000
all these people that hate you, and yeah, I believe

1267
01:18:37,039 --> 01:18:39,279
that these are these people are anti white, they've bought

1268
01:18:39,279 --> 01:18:41,760
into the anti white thing, and they will you know,

1269
01:18:42,079 --> 01:18:46,560
they will kill you. And they will. They're destructive and

1270
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:52,079
they need to be destroyed. But you know, is is

1271
01:18:52,119 --> 01:18:54,239
the war at home? When you know, when you have

1272
01:18:54,319 --> 01:18:56,560
someone going, oh, well, we're going to go out there,

1273
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,840
We're going to crush these people and everything like that,

1274
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:03,359
right is some he whispering in their ear in the

1275
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:08,399
other ear going, you know, the best way if you

1276
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:12,399
want to do this to distract from what you're doing

1277
01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:18,439
at home is go bomb and start a skirmish somewhere

1278
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:22,880
else overseas. Everybody will concentrate on that and you'll be

1279
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,159
able to do what you need at home. But the

1280
01:19:26,239 --> 01:19:32,239
problem is is that, as we know, foreign always takes

1281
01:19:32,279 --> 01:19:36,680
priority over domestic. So all of a sudden, the foreign

1282
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:41,159
will become where you know, the president or his administration

1283
01:19:41,359 --> 01:19:46,319
points all of their resources, and then at home it's like, oh,

1284
01:19:46,399 --> 01:19:49,319
you know, we'll arrest someone here and deport some people here,

1285
01:19:49,399 --> 01:19:53,000
and people think we're doing stuff, but you know, actually

1286
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:56,319
what we're doing is we're you know, we're getting Venezuela's oil.

1287
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:01,640
Venezuela's sludgy Venezuela is sludgey, shitty oil.

1288
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:06,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's where I was predicting we're gonna

1289
01:20:06,039 --> 01:20:08,920
go to war with two. Mexico is possibly also an option.

1290
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,000
We should remember. I was talking to a friend of

1291
01:20:11,039 --> 01:20:14,039
mine in New York, normal liberal guy. I was like,

1292
01:20:14,079 --> 01:20:15,560
here's the places I think we're going to go to war.

1293
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,199
He was like, Mexico. Why are we going to war

1294
01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:19,439
in Mexico or our neighbor? And I went, could you

1295
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:21,640
please google how many times in this country we've been

1296
01:20:21,640 --> 01:20:25,000
to war with Mexico. This is not a foreign concept.

1297
01:20:25,079 --> 01:20:28,680
We do it once every fifty years, right, So it's

1298
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,000
very possible it could be because the fentanyl is the

1299
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:36,079
perfect excuse to go to war with Mexico, and the

1300
01:20:36,159 --> 01:20:38,920
other drugs are the perfect excuse. You saw Haig Seth

1301
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:42,319
calling all the generals and we've got to get tough, right,

1302
01:20:42,359 --> 01:20:45,880
and everybody's going, ha ha. He called you know, General

1303
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:49,920
Millie Fat and it's like, yeah, he's telling them to

1304
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,720
get tough or get out. Why it wasn't, you know,

1305
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,840
pure entertainment. He's going because he's going because we need

1306
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,359
to get ready to go to war.

1307
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: This is exactly what this is exactly what Stalin did

1308
01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:08,720
in Russia. Everybody thinks that the Great Purge was him,

1309
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,720
Oh well, Stalin was antisemitics that he wanted to get

1310
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:15,600
rid of all the Jews, and he he was purging

1311
01:21:15,680 --> 01:21:22,680
his generals and his officer corps of revolutionaries. Right, these

1312
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:27,039
are all people that were revolutionaries and when revolutionary violence

1313
01:21:27,119 --> 01:21:30,600
was needed, they were there. But now he is planning

1314
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:34,920
to invade Europe, so he needs military but he needs

1315
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,880
you know, he needs a thousand Zhukovs he doesn't need,

1316
01:21:39,039 --> 01:21:43,920
but he doesn't need a bunch of freakin Trotzky's. So

1317
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:48,680
he either killed or exiled all of the revolutionaries he

1318
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:51,560
had in the officer corps, which turned out that a

1319
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:52,800
bunch of them were Jewish.

1320
01:21:53,279 --> 01:21:57,239
Speaker 2: Okay, they were just holdovers from the Bolsheviks, right.

1321
01:21:57,319 --> 01:21:59,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just Bolshevik holdovers.

1322
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,520
Speaker 2: Thoshiviks were the real revolutionaries. I mean, they kept going.

1323
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,520
They were like, no, wait, Stalin, we gotta keep going.

1324
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,439
What do you mean, Stalin goes, Actually, we have a

1325
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:12,279
state now, and we actually we need to need to

1326
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:16,760
expand it the whole like Lucia project is going to

1327
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:17,239
have to wait.

1328
01:22:18,119 --> 01:22:20,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you guys are you know, we need to

1329
01:22:20,079 --> 01:22:22,760
expand it through war. And you guys are not warriors.

1330
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,119
You guys are not leaders in a time of war.

1331
01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,279
And I mean that could what It's pretty much what

1332
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:30,560
you're describing right now. I mean, obviously they're not going

1333
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,159
to take them out and shoot them or send them

1334
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:35,880
to you know, get mo or gulags. But that's pretty

1335
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:40,279
much exactly what you were What you're saying could possibly

1336
01:22:40,319 --> 01:22:42,680
be happening, as you're not saying, is what's happening.

1337
01:22:43,319 --> 01:22:47,159
Speaker 2: No, And I don't also, like I'm not I don't

1338
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:49,560
even know if it's a bad thing. I don't view

1339
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:50,960
these things in good or about I just think it's

1340
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:55,760
an inevitable. A state is primarily secured with concerned with

1341
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,159
its own security, and the elites that operated are primarily

1342
01:22:59,239 --> 01:23:02,159
concerned with their own security. They don't really I mean

1343
01:23:02,199 --> 01:23:04,680
the culture war stuff. You know, it's a cliche to

1344
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:09,199
say this. The culture war stuff is to them a distraction.

1345
01:23:09,880 --> 01:23:12,880
They are putting us under it because they know it

1346
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,920
distracts us. To us, we go, yeah, it probably is distracting.

1347
01:23:18,119 --> 01:23:22,479
You decided to flood schools and libraries with drag queens.

1348
01:23:22,840 --> 01:23:26,840
Of course, I'm going to be distracted by solving this problem, right,

1349
01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,520
So it is a distraction. That doesn't mean you shouldn't

1350
01:23:29,520 --> 01:23:32,880
fight it. We absolutely cannot have that. But At the

1351
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:35,520
same time, the level of the culture war is so

1352
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:40,439
much lower than what they are planning on doing, because

1353
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:45,199
the whole thing about Venezuela is it could be the oil.

1354
01:23:47,119 --> 01:23:49,600
I think I tend to think maybe it has a

1355
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,039
lot to do with the fact that they are a

1356
01:23:51,079 --> 01:23:53,600
massive creditor to China. Yeah, they are in so much

1357
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:56,840
debt to China, and the best way that we can

1358
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,960
fight our war against China before it goes full new

1359
01:24:00,079 --> 01:24:02,920
clear is to just undermine their economy and hope that

1360
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,079
a regime change occurs. You know, there's a major collapse.

1361
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:11,119
And if we basically force Venezuela to default, you're not

1362
01:24:11,159 --> 01:24:14,079
getting any more money China. Maduro is not paying you

1363
01:24:14,119 --> 01:24:17,279
any more money for your oil infrastructure that you built.

1364
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:21,640
You know, they China built all that stuff, not Venezuela.

1365
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,880
Venezuela's fund got funds got completely frozen. I mean, they

1366
01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:29,560
need They are trying to keep up with the pace

1367
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:32,359
of bricks and that's what I mean. That's what's going

1368
01:24:32,359 --> 01:24:34,520
on in Brazil too. Their communist leader that they have

1369
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,319
is basically the only party in that region that's keeping

1370
01:24:38,399 --> 01:24:42,199
Venezuela afloat, and it's all tied into China. That's really

1371
01:24:42,199 --> 01:24:44,760
what they want to do. So I think Mexico maybe,

1372
01:24:45,159 --> 01:24:47,439
but I think Venezuela is so likely. I think this

1373
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:51,439
whole like blowing up the boat stuff, they're gauging public

1374
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,279
opinion to see how far they need to manufacture it.

1375
01:24:54,359 --> 01:24:57,560
Maybe there were narco terrists on those boats. Maybe not.

1376
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,479
I mean I tend to believe there were narco terrorists

1377
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,359
on those boats because one of the ways Venezuela makes

1378
01:25:03,399 --> 01:25:07,199
money is by selling drugs to the American market. I

1379
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:09,960
think they really do do that. That's what pariah states

1380
01:25:10,039 --> 01:25:13,920
usually do. But they also sell oil to China. I mean,

1381
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:16,439
they do a lot of things at the behest of

1382
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:20,239
China and otherwise. But they are I mean, they are

1383
01:25:20,279 --> 01:25:23,079
in the tank for a massive amount of money to China,

1384
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,920
hundreds of billions of dollars to China. And if we

1385
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,760
can basically cut that off, I mean, is anybody so

1386
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:34,560
stupid as to go, oh, that Venezuelan opposition leader who

1387
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,199
got the Nobel Prize gave it to Trump. What a patriot?

1388
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:41,119
What a patriot I mean she is. She is a

1389
01:25:41,159 --> 01:25:44,479
patriot because she, more than anybody else, really wants to

1390
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:48,680
further America's hegemony in the region. That's why she gave

1391
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:50,840
it to Trump. She gave it to Trump so that

1392
01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:54,079
Trump could go well, I didn't win it, but the

1393
01:25:54,159 --> 01:25:56,720
person who won it gave it to me. You know,

1394
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,479
they donated it to me because at the end of

1395
01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:02,720
the day, I'm the peace candidate and the Peace Prize

1396
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:06,359
leader knows it, and all that meanwhile will be you know,

1397
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:10,279
regime change in Venezuela would be the easy way. And

1398
01:26:10,319 --> 01:26:12,600
again I was talking about this with Carr on an

1399
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,560
episode on the Patreon of Over the Line where me

1400
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,199
and him just get on there we talk about stuff

1401
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,119
that is kind of what we came to the conclusion

1402
01:26:19,159 --> 01:26:22,600
of was I mean, you could probably sell the American

1403
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,920
public on a regime change war in Venezuela. They've already

1404
01:26:25,960 --> 01:26:29,079
been running the rhetoric that Maduro is a drug cartel leader,

1405
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:33,680
which he is, factually speaking, he actually is a drug

1406
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:37,760
cartel leader. They've already been pushing towards the idea that, well,

1407
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,159
in multipolarity, maybe we can't win a war against China

1408
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,880
for Taiwan, so we might as well shore up our

1409
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,680
you know, our near industry. We might as well shore

1410
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:52,199
up the region. And so car and I are going.

1411
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,119
Carr is a libertarian. I'm not a libertarian, but we

1412
01:26:55,239 --> 01:26:59,359
agree we're going. You could probably sell that war. I

1413
01:26:59,359 --> 01:27:01,000
mean you could probably go. Look, it's going to be

1414
01:27:01,039 --> 01:27:03,079
a quick six month engagement. We're going to get in there,

1415
01:27:03,079 --> 01:27:06,039
clear as Narco terrorists out and go. Now, maybe it

1416
01:27:06,079 --> 01:27:10,560
takes us ten years, but you know, the plan that

1417
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,960
Wesley Clark outlined for the Middle East took twenty something years.

1418
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,920
They have all about complete completed the goal of getting

1419
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,600
Israel to be self sufficient enough that it can it

1420
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,039
can undergo the Greater Israel project. I mean, once they

1421
01:27:24,039 --> 01:27:27,600
got nuclear weapons, how is it not greater Israel in all?

1422
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:33,319
But you know Liban's realm, it basically already is. So

1423
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:36,560
they are doing this now they realize multipolarity is coming,

1424
01:27:37,159 --> 01:27:41,239
the unipolar American moment is over, and the only country

1425
01:27:41,239 --> 01:27:44,000
in the region who's really our rival is Venezuela, and

1426
01:27:44,039 --> 01:27:45,760
they owe a lot of money to China, so we

1427
01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:46,720
got to get rid of them.

1428
01:27:48,119 --> 01:27:50,119
Speaker 1: Well, a lot of people are saying that this is

1429
01:27:50,239 --> 01:27:54,800
just basically like a a continuation of the Monroe doctrine,

1430
01:27:55,359 --> 01:28:01,960
except Minro doctrine was obviously passed to stop European expansion

1431
01:28:02,039 --> 01:28:05,119
into the into the region. And this is would be

1432
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:07,880
to stop any expansion into the region, that we would

1433
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,720
become Hedgemond over the region. The problem is is that

1434
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,800
you in order to do that, and if you, if you,

1435
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:21,039
and I'm not saying it's a good thing, because government

1436
01:28:21,119 --> 01:28:25,199
sucks at everything it does. What I what I would

1437
01:28:25,279 --> 01:28:29,680
say is you can't do that and still be tied

1438
01:28:29,720 --> 01:28:34,840
to Israel. You you just can't. I mean, I mean,

1439
01:28:35,239 --> 01:28:38,079
if he wants to do this whole thing where Gaza

1440
01:28:38,359 --> 01:28:42,079
is rebuilt and turned into you know, the last the

1441
01:28:42,119 --> 01:28:45,920
Las Vegas of the uh of the Levant. Oh, I'm sorry,

1442
01:28:46,119 --> 01:28:49,199
it wasn't a baby, it used to be that. But

1443
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:53,880
then I don't care. I mean, I know it's if

1444
01:28:55,039 --> 01:28:56,920
I don't want to sound like a libertarian, but don't

1445
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,960
use tax money for it. Let private investors do it.

1446
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,720
I hate the whole you know. Stephen Carson was on

1447
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,640
the show. RADLB was on the show with me, and

1448
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,520
he went over the whole thing about how basically Israel

1449
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,720
has been using the Palestinians, especially the ones in Gaza,

1450
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:22,880
as basically experiment Like that's how they use the experiments

1451
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:27,560
on them with their not only their their their weapons

1452
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,159
and technology, but also on their surveillance and so that

1453
01:29:31,239 --> 01:29:36,840
they have they have this you know, captive captive population

1454
01:29:37,119 --> 01:29:39,479
that they can test all of these things on so

1455
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:43,479
that they can sell them. I don't think the whole

1456
01:29:44,239 --> 01:29:48,560
security apparatus looked very good in October seventh, So that's

1457
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,000
why most people think it was a false flag or

1458
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:55,159
at least allowed to allowed to happen. But yeah, I mean,

1459
01:29:55,199 --> 01:29:58,439
you just can't if you're if you're gonna doom and

1460
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:03,159
road doctrine kind of ship. Yeah, in your hemisphere. Yeah,

1461
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:06,600
I mean, you can't be fucking around, you know, six

1462
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:09,760
thousand miles away on a shitty piece of land where

1463
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:10,680
nothing grows.

1464
01:30:11,119 --> 01:30:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's why I think, Although I will say

1465
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,239
I'm kind of confounded by this deal, this supposed deal.

1466
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,279
My only conclusion to this new deal is that nobody

1467
01:30:25,399 --> 01:30:29,319
named Hamas accepted it and it's designed to eventually fail

1468
01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:34,439
because they've been talking about greater Israel forever. Greater Israel

1469
01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:37,479
is exactly what the United States needs in a multipolar world.

1470
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:41,960
It needs a self sufficient Israel that it remains in

1471
01:30:42,039 --> 01:30:45,279
a tentative alliance with in order to secure what means

1472
01:30:45,279 --> 01:30:48,520
it needs to secure in the Middle East, but they are.

1473
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:54,479
I mean, the more obvious thing is everybody laughed at

1474
01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:59,199
the Stormer idea of the Coalition of the Willing, but

1475
01:30:59,279 --> 01:31:01,720
it was just an admit I'm part of Starmer and

1476
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:05,359
Trump that yes, the war is now being handed over.

1477
01:31:06,079 --> 01:31:09,720
And it's not just the war that's being handed over.

1478
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:12,920
Everything that comes with that is what's being handed over.

1479
01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:18,119
So I expect in not too far of the future

1480
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:22,279
you'll start to see the end of the American occupation

1481
01:31:23,359 --> 01:31:27,680
of Europe in NATO, and NATO will still continue to exist,

1482
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:30,439
the United States will still have a kind of consultory position,

1483
01:31:31,159 --> 01:31:35,399
but I expect if multipolarity is real and being forced

1484
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:40,640
upon the United States, they will probably prop Europe up

1485
01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:44,520
to be able to defend itself against what they view

1486
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:49,399
as the competitive block. In Russia, China just bricks most generally,

1487
01:31:49,840 --> 01:31:52,520
and they're trying to do the same thing. In Israel,

1488
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,199
they're trying. You know, the nuclear bomb helps, and that's

1489
01:31:56,199 --> 01:31:58,960
why they killed Kennedy, so that they could do it

1490
01:31:59,159 --> 01:32:02,079
and not have to give them up. And that worked.

1491
01:32:02,079 --> 01:32:05,720
So they when they killed Kennedy, they basically secured their

1492
01:32:07,399 --> 01:32:10,960
essential existence because of the nuclear weapon, and because of

1493
01:32:11,039 --> 01:32:14,640
nuclear deterrence. But now they really and you'll see this

1494
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:20,000
with the most honest of the settler Zionists. Their real goal,

1495
01:32:20,039 --> 01:32:26,479
of course, is to secure the Israeli hegemony of the

1496
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:31,199
region that extends from the Euphrates to the Nile. They

1497
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:34,439
don't really have aspirations for anything larger than that. And

1498
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,520
when people talk about they want to build the Third Temple, look,

1499
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:37,840
if they wanted to build a third Temple, they want

1500
01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,359
to build a third Temple with what they just did

1501
01:32:39,359 --> 01:32:43,479
to Ganza. If they wanted to confiscate that area, they would, Okay,

1502
01:32:43,720 --> 01:32:47,880
there's nobody. There's nobody who's preventing them from from destroying

1503
01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:50,039
that mosque and building the Third Temple if they want to.

1504
01:32:50,479 --> 01:32:53,359
That stuff is part of the distraction. They want greater Israel.

1505
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,159
They want greater Israel because the state of Israel's main

1506
01:32:56,199 --> 01:32:58,119
concern is what we just said it a million times.

1507
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,239
The concern of every state is the security of that state.

1508
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:04,039
That is the main thing that a state is an organism,

1509
01:33:04,119 --> 01:33:06,199
wants to do. It's the same reason why you as

1510
01:33:06,199 --> 01:33:09,600
a human you eat food, you breathe, you pray, you

1511
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,399
have an immune system. Your main concern is your security.

1512
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:16,000
In as many ways as you can encapsulate that. That

1513
01:33:16,079 --> 01:33:19,960
is what every organism's main goal is. That's what the

1514
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,000
State of Israel's goal is, and it aligns perfectly with

1515
01:33:23,079 --> 01:33:25,640
America's need to kind of get the hell out of

1516
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:28,960
the world. We cannot afford it, we can't back it up.

1517
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:32,439
How many more humiliations do we need? I mean Ukraine

1518
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,840
was a major humiliation, a major humiliation. And of course

1519
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,479
Trump will never tell you that. Trump will tell you

1520
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,920
the Europeans will be able to fight the Russians back

1521
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:45,560
to Moscow. That's a comedy act.

1522
01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: Well, I mean Trump can say whatever he wants. I mean,

1523
01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:56,039
the people who did this and design, you know, basically

1524
01:33:56,199 --> 01:33:59,520
provoke this. It was Scott hort In a little credit.

1525
01:34:02,720 --> 01:34:04,600
They didn't care if there was a win or not.

1526
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:09,920
They just needed they just needed bodies, They needed human

1527
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:10,680
beings to die.

1528
01:34:12,760 --> 01:34:16,439
Speaker 2: I mean that is the win. Yeah, that's the win.

1529
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,720
Because why did the war happens? Because Russia was provoked

1530
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:23,880
because NATO forces kept inching up and up against their border.

1531
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,000
So the war going on. Does who does that serve?

1532
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,600
I mean, not one European besides Ukrainians have fought in

1533
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:33,680
this other than you know, the volunteers. So they still

1534
01:34:33,760 --> 01:34:36,840
have all Europe ready to go. So who's really losing

1535
01:34:37,159 --> 01:34:39,680
And I don't mean who's not putting up a good fight?

1536
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,960
I mean in whose interest is the war going at

1537
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:49,039
a stalemate? It's Europe's interest because the weapons, the missiles,

1538
01:34:49,279 --> 01:34:52,680
the bases are already pressed up against the border that

1539
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:55,560
they've been pressed up against on. They haven't moved back

1540
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:59,359
at all. This is exactly according to plan I mean.

1541
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,880
But it's a humiliation for America, is what I mean.

1542
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:09,119
It is a humiliation for America. Yes, the goal ultimately

1543
01:35:09,399 --> 01:35:13,479
is stasis, and the war in Ukrainians stasis.

1544
01:35:13,079 --> 01:35:18,279
Speaker 1: But that the people who wanted that war don't care

1545
01:35:18,279 --> 01:35:19,000
if it looks bad.

1546
01:35:19,119 --> 01:35:28,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, of course they have all of it. They

1547
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:30,800
really have all of it. It's not just that they

1548
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,239
have their own hiding place, which yes, they're trying to

1549
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,800
set up to be self sufficient. It's not yet, not

1550
01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:39,720
yet there, but soon soon it will be. They've got

1551
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:42,920
to get rid of one more rival in the region,

1552
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,359
and that's Iran. I expect the United States won't even

1553
01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,920
involve itself in that though. I think that is the point.

1554
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:53,079
Is they're trying to set Israel up with enough security

1555
01:35:53,079 --> 01:35:55,800
that Israel can go and do what it needs to

1556
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,680
do in Iran, which is a regime change primarily, or secondarily,

1557
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:04,640
just keep their missile program at fifty percent so that

1558
01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:06,720
they can never get a nuke, because when they get

1559
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,439
a nuke, it becomes a very different issue for Israel,

1560
01:36:09,479 --> 01:36:13,159
a very different problem. Then it's two level of a

1561
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:16,479
playing field, so they need regime change. They'll put the

1562
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,439
polovies back in, you know, and it'll go back to

1563
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:25,039
wearing mini skirts and the whole stupid liberal world will go, wow, freedom.

1564
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:30,600
You know, it's crazy, But yeah, that's where we're going at.

1565
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:33,239
That's I've been I don't like to product, you know

1566
01:36:33,239 --> 01:36:39,560
I'm producing, but I of Venezuela seems the obvious win.

1567
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:42,079
I mean, it's an obvious and when I say win,

1568
01:36:42,159 --> 01:36:44,520
I mean the goals of the American war state will

1569
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:47,479
be achieved. And boy do they need that. And they

1570
01:36:47,520 --> 01:36:49,159
could sell it to the American people too.

1571
01:36:50,439 --> 01:36:56,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's leave it there. I'm going about an hour

1572
01:36:56,119 --> 01:37:01,640
and a half, so I know you've already promoted a

1573
01:37:01,640 --> 01:37:03,520
bunch of stuff. Is there anything else you want to promote?

1574
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:06,720
You promoted your whole series and everything, which, yeah, no,

1575
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:10,000
I'm just you know, I'm probably going to Oh no,

1576
01:37:10,079 --> 01:37:13,560
I'm definitely going to listen, but probably not until everything's

1577
01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:15,399
done and I can just binge it all in one

1578
01:37:16,359 --> 01:37:17,880
like a week or something like that.

1579
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:23,079
Speaker 2: I recommend that I do we we uh so I

1580
01:37:23,479 --> 01:37:27,800
no plugs, but but I will say this. Normally, I

1581
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:33,199
like to come on and be funny right on some news.

1582
01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:38,159
It didn't happen today, now, you know, I will say

1583
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:40,479
trust in holly Hands. That's how all on the episode

1584
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:42,479
trust in Holly Hands.

1585
01:37:45,359 --> 01:37:48,079
Speaker 1: I assume that the way they've used that kid already

1586
01:37:48,199 --> 01:37:51,279
probably runs around with a diaper.

1587
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:02,119
Speaker 2: Poor kids, So gross? Did you got to free him?

1588
01:38:02,359 --> 01:38:05,199
Speaker 1: Have you seen any of like the people asking him

1589
01:38:05,319 --> 01:38:12,000
questions and he like, he just malfunc like malfunctions whenever

1590
01:38:12,039 --> 01:38:16,119
anyone brings up like America first, and you know, or

1591
01:38:16,159 --> 01:38:17,119
he is, you know.

1592
01:38:17,159 --> 01:38:19,720
Speaker 2: He's a Franklin scandal victim. I'm convinced.

1593
01:38:21,000 --> 01:38:24,560
Speaker 1: Or he goes into his oh you know, we need

1594
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:30,119
legal immigration. It's like shurepal, Yeah, sure, pal, just need

1595
01:38:30,119 --> 01:38:34,319
all those need all those subcontinentals coming in, you know,

1596
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:37,760
so that we're so that all of the there's an

1597
01:38:37,760 --> 01:38:41,399
app in all of the United States to avoid stepping

1598
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:42,319
in human ship.

1599
01:38:43,399 --> 01:38:47,960
Speaker 2: Jesus, it's common. I think it's common, all right, Berto,

1600
01:38:48,159 --> 01:38:49,359
thank you, Pe.