Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents off the bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 2: Say, Hester and Hester got it, Fata far.
Speaker 1: From carrying each other to and Natty to carrying each
other on the air Control Live from downtown Baton Rouge.
Speaker 2: It's off the bench, all right.
Speaker 3: Welcome back here o TV hour number three here on
this Tuesday morning. It is our number three. It is Tuesday.
So you know what that means. Nick Underhill, New Orleans
Dot Football joins us. Now, Nicholas, how you doing, hey living?
Speaker 4: What's up? Sir?
Speaker 5: Doing good? Doing good? How you guys doing?
Speaker 4: Uh strong? Quite strong?
Speaker 3: I'd say, you know, good football weekend yet again. And
I know the New Orleans Saints. We're not victorious. I
know that, but still I'm saying that the development of
this team is going in the right direction. And I
think Spencer Ratler played great. So I'm going to be
positive here on this Tuesday morning.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. I think I think he played pretty well.
I thought it was just tough in the right direction.
I thought he got better week over week, and I
think that's what you want to see from a guy
in his second season. And for all intents and purposes,
his second start with other viable NFL players on the
offense with him that last year. So ru I thought
he played. I thought he played pretty good. I mean
that that throtal a lot of it is one that
kind of, you know, sticks in your craw a little bit.
But other than that, I mean, man, he had two
throws there that I thought probably, you know, if you
made a top ten to fifteen list of you know,
throws of the week across the NFL. I mean, I
think he has two strong candidates to get in there.
The throw does she definitely, and the one that Juwan too.
I mean, he's got pressure coming at him, doesn't you know,
have a great base that still gets the ball out
like it's perfectly placed only where he's got can get it.
I mean, I thought it was I thought it was
a good performance for him. I'm encouraged, and you know, honestly,
like you start looking at the second year players around
the league at that position, he's certainly not at the
bottom of the list.
Speaker 6: Of those guys.
Speaker 5: I mean, I thought he he played better than McCarthy.
I think, you know, he played better than Penis at
least this week. Kinex was pretty good week. What like
he's he's he's playing ing well right now. I think
he's showing you, you know, what you need to see.
At some point, he's got to win a game. But
you know, I think he's I think he's doing pretty
well so far.
Speaker 7: You brought it up, you brought the throat to a
lave up, and we were talking about that a little
bit yesterday. You know, if a lotve is a true
number one receiver in the NFL, they make that catch
nine times out of ten. I mean you've seen you
see ever you see Joe Burrow make post routes in
the end zone that are back hip, back shoulder that
they catch routinely just because of receiver number one receiver
has body control. Like you didn't see that from him.
What is your analysis of Chris Olave to this point?
Because something just looks a little bit off as routes
aren't clean, they're not they don't look crisp, and it
looks kind of hard to read from a quarterback his
body angles, his body speed like it's like it just
looks like something's a little off.
Speaker 4: What do you notice him?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll give you. I mean he got a hand
on it, like you got to pull it in, but
like at the same time, there was ten yards of space,
like there was a much easier throw to make. So
I think, you know, you can knock both guys. I
put a bigger knock on the quarterback for that throw
just me. I mean, I didn't play the position you did.
Speaker 7: All I'm saying is like number one receivers in the
NFL make that catch pretty routine routinely. Right, Yes, Mike
Evans is coming down with a catch, right.
Speaker 5: Yes, Like Chris comes off and he's got it. Seems
a little frustrated right now to be to be honest,
you know, just reading body language and all that stuff,
like it just seems like maybe maybe you know, maybe
everything isn't all all the way on the same page
it this point right now, you know, I think there's
tab of ways to get him a little bit more
involved and get him into the flow of things, maybe
earlier in the game, like they tried there. I mean,
so that might be a BS comment to make by me. Yeah,
I don't know, Like it just it just doesn't seem
to have like fully clicked in the place yet, like
all the way around with all their weapons though, like
it's just been you know, kind of quiet, but it
is an offense that's that's thrown for like two hundred
yards of game right now, and you know, I don't
know how many opportunities they're supposed to be. He had
what five catches this week for fifty four yards or
something like that. I know the alignment was fifty seven
point five and he came in under it, so whatever
his number was. But yeah, I think it's just like
not not quite all the way there yet, and this
is probably supposed to be the year where he explodes.
I mean, this is a it's not a contract year,
but I think it's a value building year for him,
no doubt about it. I mean, like he's trying to
get those numbers back to where they probably should be
and could be.
Speaker 4: And I think if.
Speaker 5: You're him, just kind of in this offense that's a
little bit limited or whatever right now and probably isn't
going to be the team that's wrong for free endred
yards a week at any point this season. You know,
I bet it's probably it's probably a little bit you know,
frustrating with with what your goals are. But I also
know that, like every time we talk to him, and
this is going on four years now, Like he's just
consistently bringing up like, look, I came from Ohio State,
Like I'm not used to losing. Like I think this
being in a losing culture probably consistently for for all
these years too, is just something that that you know,
I legitimately think that bothers him. And there's some guys
that and look, you guys about like there's some guys
that don't wear the losses the same man as other guys.
I think someone that like legitimately takes losing very very hard,
and I think I'm stice starting to wear on him
a little bit too.
Speaker 4: Nick.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of positives I really do think that
that you can take from the last couple of games.
But what is one thing that just for you hasn't
gotten better? You don't see that development, And it's one
of the reasons the Saints are owing.
Speaker 5: To interior blocking. Probably it just like McCoy's McCoy's amazing.
You know, there's just a lot of pressure kind of
coming coming through there right now. See you're hat a
had a tough game.
Speaker 4: You know, they they.
Speaker 5: Moved both over him. I think five comes in this
game and and got you know, easy wins on those.
I mean, that kind of tells you what they're thinking
the opponent when they're doing that. That's that's a that's
a tough look for you. Yeah, I mean, I don't
think that's been been good at all. I don't know
how it gets better. I don't know if it changes.
I don't know what the fix is. But that's that's
a huge issue. I think that's that's something that's got
to uh one way or another. They got to find
a way to clean it up more. Got asked about
him yesterday and gave him a voter confidence But you know,
I'm guessing that's just kind of lip service that that
has to be a concern for your team at this point.
I mean, the whole, the whole builds about having a
strong front and letting that be the thing that allows
your quarterbacks to kind of you know, develop and keeps
them out of trouble and allows them to make cleaner decisions.
And if you're giving up interior pressure, I mean, that's
the you know, it's it's in his face immediately, like
that's just not that's my conducer for success in it,
And it's counter to the build and what they want
to do so. Yeah, I mean I would say that
would probably be the top thing. You know. I think
the pass rush result was okay week one. This week
it wasn't. That's a little concerning. I want to see
what Chase Young does when when he gets back. Probably
I would guess this week that was the timeline when
he got hurt. Maybe that fix is a little bit,
but I would say those are the two things, and
I think those are the two things probably coming into
the season. Quarterback was obviously on that list too, but
I think past rush and that that interior protection, we're
probably the two things we talked about most, uh, you know,
every Thursday marketing Cup for six months coming into the season.
I think they're still kind of at the top of
that list from it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Cason is a lot like he graded out in
the thirties week one, but low forties this week, So
it's starting to trim trend enough. I think about like
week week got ten or eleven, it might be high forty,
be a D, might be a D.
Speaker 4: You never know, Gay, So let's see positive Nick.
Speaker 7: Where So, we knew the the roster issues going in
the season. We knew that this was not going to
be a Super Bowl contending team by any means or
any stretch of the imagination. But two games in, where
are they in comparison to your expectations before the season.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I think they're a little ahead. I mean, I
can't remember the Sea really look really looking for break spots,
looking for things that you know you can hang your
hat on, the look toward future building and all that stuff.
I think the quarterback play has done better than I
expected it was going to be, at least immediately out
of the gate. Now I think the factor of fiction
on that is going to come into play over the
next two weeks. The Sea battle defense is is is.
You know, they got some players. I think there's some
vulnerabilities overall in their in their defense, but I think
the holes better than the some of the parts. And
the way that the Stacey's I think is going to
make things pos of. We'll see how he reads the field.
Jolly and Love is kind of like Kyle Hamilton Junior.
Can move all over the field, do a lot of
different things. Kobe Bryant our other state, the former corner
moved back there very rangy player. They rotate those guys
a lot and really muddy up the pictures, so we'll
kind of see how they read the defense, and that
could be a game where they get behind early and
you got to see the quarterback throws way back. If
it doesn't happen this week, definitely will next week against Buffalo.
So I think as that simple size gets larger, we'll
start to get a better feel for it. But like
I'm encouraged by by what we're seeing. And and again
like I don't know what this means, and I'm by
no means is it? Is it good enough? You don't
want to exist in this range? But I think, like
if you were to rank all the quarterbacks in the
NFL right now, like Rattler's probably like twenty fifth or
something like that, Like he's not in the bottom. Yeah, yeah,
Like I don't even know what the number is, but
it's it's encouraging to some degree.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 7: I think I think QBR he was ranked seventeen or
eighteen right now. And then we talked about like if
they Jwan Johnson comes down with that touchdown, like if
if you know, I can't even know whatever, but like
if they complete the past, a love can lease draw on.
We're talking like top ten QBR right, I mean on
the edge. Yeah, now no, oh in times, So it
doesn't like that's the staff that matters.
Speaker 5: I mean that would have won last week probably if
he gets that touchdown to a love early on and the.
Speaker 7: Man, they might have won.
Speaker 5: They might have went for two and one and they
would have a chance, like yeah, if both those passes
get caught, like they're like Mike Greenberg and then were
probably leads to get up with with Rattler like the
guy like you know, yeah, So I mean like that
that's incredibly encouraging. You know, I think it's so wrong,
Like I just I just feel like they're building something.
I think the coaching staff is still obviously growing and
learning and getting better. And I don't think that's unique
to him, like Ben Johnson's getting roasted for decisions inot Like,
I think you just got to go through the stuff
and learn and grow. And I think where the Saints
are at right now, it's tolerable. Like if it's if
it's a growing year for the roster and a growing
year for the coach, like I'm fine with that. Yeah,
Like the results aren't where they need to be. I
don't think a lot of stuff is good enough, but like,
and I hate to put it like this because it's
like so soft and like so anticipation trophy is but like,
I just think this year is about progress and I
feel like we're seeing it right now. But those those
feelings did come crashing down in two weeks, and if
they get smoked the next two weeks, like it'll be
interesting to see if the you know, if they still
have the same ball population and you know, the same
effort everywhere, Like that's going to get tested a little bit.
But I think right now, two weeks in, it feels
like it's on track.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you just about the the the operation
of everything from Kellimore first time head coach, because like
it doesn't look like there's a lot of panic on
the sideline. Look, there's some situations and we could talk
about some clock management stuff and in week number one,
but just with the new coaching staff with new pieces
and a first time head coach, Like, how has that
been from maybe your viewpoint, Nick? And also like when
you talk to other people around the NFL.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's it's spotty. And one of the
things I heard from someone when they first hired him,
someone was another team that that interviewed more. I got
a text and I was like, hey, look, this guy's
like really smart, but I think it's going to take
him a while to figure out how to be a
head coach, Like he's gonna have to grow into that.
And then after week one, same guy text me, he's like,
remember I told you, and it's like, yeah, I mean
there's some of the stuff that that I think is
going to come into play, Like I thought. I thought
week one, you know, the pre Scotch stuff was was
was awful. I think that was kind of a result
of how they can't went like I think we talked
a few times about how, you know, hey, it's a
little weird shorter days like that are doing a lot
of a lot of stuff other than just like straight
up team every day, and it's different than anything you know,
I had ever seen. And then they go into week
one and they have these penalties. But I think, you know,
last week the number gets cut in half and the
prestaff stuff was gone, Like that's a that's the stuff
in the right direction. And if he's gonna make mistakes
and he can correct them in a week, I'm okay
seeing mistakes right now. Like if we're seeing mistakes and
Thanksgiving and some of the same stuff, I'll be I'll
be way more concerned. I thought it was a little
weird this week and it might have just done a
defense thing. You know that the field was slippery, The
players were talking about it being slippery. You saw people
slipping on the field, and like we asked them about
it yesterday and it's like, hey, like what was your
involvement in that? And he's like, oh, they meant some,
but I didn't really worry about it. And like I
feel like those little details are things that he's gonna
have to learn to Hey, everything does matter, and you know,
it's it's just weird in my position, like hearing that
when for fifteen years, like we all became masters on
grass pipes than Cleveland and what you do, because like
it was those are the details that Sean Payton was into,
like to an exhaustive degree, and it's just like wow,
like this is like like it's totally different, and I
think differents okay, But like I think some of that,
you know that there's a middle ground that you that
you gotta see and I think he's I think he's
figuring stuff out I think it's going in the right direction.
I think that you see, he's obviously like smart.
Speaker 4: The way you know.
Speaker 5: I think he's a really good play caller, really good
designer of offense. I think that's a parent It's just
it's just, you know, some of the head coaching stuff
I think still has to to come all the way together.
But you know, a guy that's thirty six year olds
first time and you know in the role, I think
you're gonna see it. Also, I think we got the
answer to h the clock management thing, yeah, that we're
talking about. Yeah, so they were in a situation where
where they were considering calling the time out and Phil Galliano,
the special teams coach, came over and they were they
were discussing it, and then the time I got called
previously Darren Rizzy handled kind of some of that game
management aspect. So I think I think that's the answer.
I'm gonna seek confirmation on Wednesday, but I will have
a firm answer for you next week. But I think
I think that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I was wondering if you were able to ask the
question because we were talking about it after are we
interviewed you last week, Like if you get a good
question from Kellen Moore, like I would say.
Speaker 4: We like as like we all get it.
Speaker 7: We all get that one, right, Well, that's all we
That one goes on the tally board for everyone.
Speaker 5: So I held up. I held out like I game
planned it, and I held off because it was like
he was getting fried for for the thing. And it's
like it's like I don't want to keep this going
on on Wednesday, and he's just gonna be like you know,
so I was waiting for the smoke to clear a
little bit and like kind of going there like where
it's not because it's not an aggressive question like we've
we've criticized you for it, but yeah, I'm gonna I'm
gonna wait so like we get a real answer and
not like uh are you bringing this up again?
Speaker 4: So like I just.
Speaker 5: Want the information. I don't I'm not trying to make
an accusation.
Speaker 4: I got to read the room smart. That's right, Oh man,
there is.
Speaker 3: I got Nick Underhill, New Orleans dot Football always good
enough to join us here on Tuesday mornings. Nick, We
appreciate the time as always, sir, and we'll catch up
again next week. Guess uh, it's impossible to answer. I
was gonna ask him, if you're the Saints and you
had a top five pick right now, which position do
you go with? But that's kind of impossible, knowing who
is available in the draft, and you know injuries and
certain contract situations and all of that.
Speaker 4: That's a fun hypothetical.
Speaker 3: But my whole point in thinking about that question was
I wouldn't say I would not select or take a
quarterback right now.
Speaker 4: Neither. I wouldn't. I wouldn't either.
Speaker 3: I think there's other things that can help you win
right now.
Speaker 7: And you don't three young quarterbacks. No, you don't know
if they were.
Speaker 6: Three they sign. That's so true, Like you do not
need another quarterback? Or go look see where you can
find one, Like go get Jamis back?
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not?
Speaker 3: You'll get a number one receiver, please, ja get go
get a number one dog a receiver. Because this isn't
for me. It's not like I'm gonna hate on Krystal Lovey.
I think Chris Alive is a really good football player.
I think Kris is gonna play a long time in
the NFL. Do I think there's more in there? Absolutely?
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: But and this isn't LSU bias. It's not, I promise you.
But when I turn on the TV or when the
TV's on the studio and they continue on the loop
showing Jamar Chase and Elik Neighbor like catches, like Elik
Neighbors is going out there and it's like it's him
or nobody when.
Speaker 4: The balls in the air like same thing.
Speaker 3: Like with Jamar Chase like he is, it's almost like
somebody told him he can't catch and every single time
he wants to prove I can catch it no matter
where it's at. And I'm gonna be uber aggressive finding
a way to come down with the football. I don't
care if you know a DB's hand is on my
face and I'm not gonna sit there and get a
up and you know, do the whole you know, where's
the flag.
Speaker 4: No, I'm just gonna go catch the ball. Yep.
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna worry about anything else.
Speaker 4: Chris A Lobby doesn't have that right this second. Not no.
Speaker 3: And so that's what that's what I think you're talking about.
Is that too, If my quarterback gives me a chance,
a chance for me is ninety six percent me coming
down with the football.
Speaker 7: What Nick said about it the potential of the psychology
behind maybe his thought pros. It kind of resonated with
me about how he is come like he takes losing
a lot harder than he's coming from Ohio State, like
with it. When I went to Green Bay, we were
six and ten, yeah, and we lost like the first
game of the season. I go in the locker room,
I'm pissed. I didn't play like I'm pissed. I'm like, well,
this is gonna be terrible. Everybody's like laughing in.
Speaker 4: The locker room. I'm like, what do y'all What are
y'all doing? We just lost?
Speaker 7: Nobody talks, Everyone be everyone be pissed. It's just different.
But some people I can see how being in a
loser culture right out of coming up from Ohio State
for multiple years, like how that can mentally if you
don't like overcome it. And then if that's mentally it's
like psychology is not there, how your performance can start
to go day yeah, let's go. I could see that
being an issue. But he's got it. He who cares like,
you got to get you got to get over that.
You're pro you're supposed to be at number one. You
have to be better. Yeah, Spencer's got to make that
throw better, got to Yeah, but he's a young quarterback, Like,
you got to make the play again.
Speaker 3: My league neighbors is making that catch, Jamar Chase is
making that catch. Ceedee Lamb probably is making that catch.
Speaker 7: I'm not saying he's number one. Brandon Cooks is making
that catch in that game. Yeah, I've seen it. I've
seen it. I've seen him make that catch fifty times.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Nick just didn't want to.
Speaker 7: But Nick is right. Nick is right, Spencer, like that
is you get a negative grade?
Speaker 4: Spencer?
Speaker 7: Absolutely, Nick one hundred percent right. But I'm just saying,
and that's just one example. That's one example. But the
way he was running his routes, it's just that doesn't
seem mentally or spiritually, whatever you want to say it.
It just it just hadn't come together for him. And
what Nick said kind of resonated with me, Like if
he is so mentally beat down from being part of
a losing franchise, yeah, that can And if you don't
take losing well right, if you're not used to it
and you're not handling it the right way. From a
psyche standpoint, I can see how that could translate into
how he's playing.
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Speaker 3: Hashtag go to be mail bag? Do you all think
Nuss should rest this weekend to get better for the Gauntlet?
Speaker 8: I'm actually gonna say no. I don't think your offense
is good enough. I think you gotta find some sort
of rhythm. How about you get into a rhythm. Score
thirty five in the first half, then sit him the
rest of the game.
Speaker 4: Pretty nice, all right, Matthew.
Speaker 7: If he is if his injury I'm gonna say injury lightly.
If his ailment, whatever's hurting him. If it is affecting
the game plan, then, yes, sit him a lot, which
we laid that a little bit earlier.
Speaker 6: It might be maybe feels like a hot take, but
I think sit him. I mean, you got Old Miss
the next weekend, so at Old Miss. And again we
go back to this quite a bit, but like, is
he injured or is he hurt?
Speaker 3: You know? And if he's if he's injured, you injured,
you hurt?
Speaker 6: Let him rest up against Southeastern, you know, and then
to go face go face Old Miss in Oxford the
next weekend, Like you gotta fully rest enough. So I mean,
I don't I I would.
Speaker 4: Like to sit him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if he's got an injury that time, can heal?
Speaker 4: Rest? Can heal?
Speaker 3: Like I'm a meat head, Let me go out there
and play.
Speaker 4: But we need you.
Speaker 3: And you do have a quarterback a backup situation with
someone who has eight sec starts and played pretty well
last year, so you're not putting your team in a deficiency.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And it does seem like, based on us like
charting the passes earlier in the show, that it could
be affecting the game plan. But it also gives a
little credence to the message that Brian Kelly's been preaching
about the Florida game. We played the game to win.
It looked differently, Yeah, and that's how we Like When
he first said it, I was like, yeah, I don't know,
that's probably just coach speak for like we didn't play
good on offense. But like, if the game plan is
set up to where it's dink and dunk, let's control
to try to control the clock, let's do like, let's
game plan differently because we have a good defense.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like you got to read the tea leaves.
Speaker 6: Your defense is going to keep you in every single game.
And if Michael van Buren can't go out there and
put points up against Southeastern, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like you should, like you should absolutely be
able to go out there with him and throttle.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's not my concern. That's not why I said, Yeah,
I just I know.
Speaker 3: You're saying but legitimately, but to match point, I think
you said this earlier. That still puts him going through
a full week of practice, that still puts him going
through pre game, that still puts him going through game situations,
and so like at that point, he's played thirty five nothing.
He still played so if he's really got an ailment
again that rest can help with not if it can't, right,
I mean, I don't there.
Speaker 6: I don't know enough about the injury to know if
like just sitting right, But like I don't know if
sitting him for a week is going to do anything
for him. But I mean, but you from the information
that I have, I think, yeah, in my opinion, suit
him this weekend.
Speaker 7: And well, I mean almost half your throws are we
know science here, yeah, we do. Or half your throws
this season have been less than five yards down.
Speaker 4: The field of air air travel. Yep, you're talking thirty
four yards.
Speaker 7: It's basically your longest attempt, right, And their explanations, I
don't remember the other one, And so I'm thinking that's false.
For the for the Flory game, we thought his lip
service saying that like we played the game to win.
We just we knew he had a good defense. We
just wanted to control the clock, not turn it over
make a big mistake. That's coach speak for saying like,
I don't have a good offense. But that is not
the case, because we've seen these people play really good offense.
Speaker 6: So I mean, you got Aaron Anderson's davy On Thomas
out there. And you're right, Barry and Brown is fast
fast yeah, yeah, like and and.
Speaker 3: We're throw the ball time right And I know, I
know Chris Hill's mad about his targets right now, but
like what's his right is that? Like, what's the thing
that he does?
Speaker 6: Go?
Speaker 4: Oh right now?
Speaker 3: If you can't go right, like if you're limited, isn't there?
Speaker 7: So I think we just we charted I think only
three passes. It's very few passes a handful that have
gone over thirty yards and even fewer over thirty five.
The average go ball, which is just a wide receiver
near the sideline is outside see were running a go route.
The average pass completed passes between thirty eight and forty
two yards down the field on a go route. That's
a five step drop timing one hitch, let it rip.
We always charted it. Your completions on a go route
thirty eight to forty two yards down the field. There's
less than a handful of balls that have even traveled
even close to that bar.
Speaker 3: This long longest completion through the air this year, not
catching run, but through the air. Yeah, twenty four yards.
Speaker 4: Well, if you want to mention the.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's from somebody that can make every throat right.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you said there were three to win over thirty yards. Yeah,
you go back and look at the charts. Two incompletions
and an interception.
Speaker 7: Yep, those are and the one that went over thirty
five yards I believe air was, like I said, five
to ten yards behind the receiver and that was the
pick right, and just a standard fast I drop it.
Speaker 4: A hitch.
Speaker 7: A go route is completed between thirty eight and forty
two yards if it's executed.
Speaker 4: Properly, and you know whatever. I think you've thrown those before.
Laser rocket arm.
Speaker 3: Hell, I think you've thrown me a pass longer than
thirty four yards.
Speaker 7: They were like, oh, well, I don't know about Quinn's
drafts status. He can't throw at seventy five yards? I
think seventy. But I don't need to.
Speaker 3: I realized in that real listen, all right, hashtag go
t B mail bag. Is there anything you want to
see from the offense this weekend?
Speaker 4: Game points?
Speaker 6: Got points?
Speaker 3: I want to see three things. Three things in the
running game. I want to see running backs be decisive
in their cuts, make a decision, and go. I want
to see linemen not try to be perfect and climb
up to the second level and with bad intentions, and
by god, I want to see a full back again.
Those three things, I don't know what I want to see.
Speaker 4: I go a little easier than that.
Speaker 8: I want to see somebody other than Caden Durham get
like a decent work.
Speaker 4: Like I understand you.
Speaker 8: You've worked Harlan Berry into a little bit. We still
haven't seen Caleb Jackson at all, and there's probably reasons
behind that.
Speaker 4: I've seen Juwan a.
Speaker 8: Little bit, but like it's kind of been Cayden Durham
and then Tavi.
Speaker 4: I'm Thomas a lot for it too.
Speaker 3: You got to earn carries.
Speaker 9: You do, but it gets southeastern like if you want
to see what you got that's and Juwan was doing
that and they fumbled. You want to get you want
to get next to Frank Wilson, real quick fumble carry
that was great. Yeah, I mean he put his foot
in the ground a couple of times the other night,
but he fumbled, so we all know how that goes.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'd love to see, Yeah, Harlan Berry in this game,
absolutely for sure. But again, Carrie's are earned and when
people are like, well, was this guy and not get
in the ball, look at the stats and kind of
look at the production or the lack up production. They
certainly need somebody to step up outside of Caden Durham.
How I said, I go to the mail bag. Is
the Pontoon Parlay going to get back on track this week?
Or was it a one and done for maximum efforts
sort of thing? Whoa Ricky.
Speaker 6: Might have you hit a Parlay?
Speaker 2: Rick?
Speaker 7: Yeah, Bud, I think technically we're fifty percent. We're six
and six. We have a lot of real good tries
out there, a lot of good tries, a lot of
good tries.
Speaker 4: This week we're hitting there for.
Speaker 3: Uh from the l s U Monster here. What if
Joe Burrow, justin, Jefferson, Tyron, Matthew, Patrick, Peterson, OBJ and
Devin White gut into a fist fight, who would come
out on top? I'm going, honey Badger, any fight situation, honey.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Devin White would be tough to be too. Time.
Is this street fight?
Speaker 7: Yeah, with like street rules or in a ring? Yeah,
street fight, street fight honey badger? Yeah, alright, I get it.
Like if we're in a ring, size matters, Devin white
coming out on top like Jim Bill Fisher used to
say it, like big guy's always gonna win.
Speaker 4: If you're little, you better be special like Joe Burrow.
Speaker 7: You can have all the toughness in the world, but
at some point, yeah, some point, size and just strength matters.
Speaker 3: Hashuld I go to be mail bag? Would any of
the OTB crew agree to tandem parachute into Tiger Stadium
before kickoff to deliver the game?
Speaker 4: But yeah, do I have to?
Speaker 8: Like, do I have to do anything other than being
strapped of somebody else that knows what they're doing?
Speaker 4: No? Yeah, close my eyes, wake me up when we
hit the groom.
Speaker 7: It's one of those things that I that's not on
my bucket list at all, Like why, Nope, no, no need.
God made conversation. Yeah, God made this beautiful earth. I'm
gonna keep my feet on it.
Speaker 6: I don't even like getting on planes.
Speaker 4: I don't like getting all lines.
Speaker 7: I definitely don't want to voluntarily get off a plane.
Speaker 3: Let me jump out of this plane.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's just I'm sure it's a great.
Speaker 6: Thrill, and I'm sure I would pass away mid air,
like just how.
Speaker 4: You pass out?
Speaker 3: His passing away I would pass away mid air.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that guy that's in charge of your life,
that pulls it, you don't know what he's going through.
You don't know, you don't know his trial.
Speaker 4: Stepping out on him. Now he decides he's not pulling
the cord exactly exactly.
Speaker 7: Y'all seen, y'all seen breaking bad when that air traffic
controller he's having this like bad situation at home, bad
stuff happening, and.
Speaker 4: He just boomed two planes. You're right, I'm not doing
it anymore. Yeah, you don't know. I'm out. Could be
a crack yad.
Speaker 8: My dad used always say, why jump out of a
perfectly good airport?
Speaker 4: Exactly?
Speaker 3: All right, we'll take a break more O t B
when we come back here on one four five ESPN
off the bench. Go for those today, tomorrow, Saturday, any day. Really,
it's a great time now Saturday tail getting situations like
the peak time. And I was walking around campus. I
told you all this yesterday, walking around walking around pastailgates
and got called hey, hey, say say well do sekis?
And I was proud that they stopped me and showed
me the dose secis. Now this patron only had one,
not two personal choice, I guess, but you can always
go for dose.
Speaker 4: Okay, to each their own, to each their own.
Speaker 3: But I am proud that he stopped me and let
me know that he was enjoying that ice cold do
sekies you should as well. It is a part of
game day. Get your tent, get your TV, get your generator,
and get your dose.
Speaker 7: Secis It's right, stay thirsty, my friends, go for dose.
Get that delicious ice cold Mexicano long with either the
green can with two x's on it or the green
glass bottle that's my favorite. Whatever it is, cut you
lime and then enjoy.
Speaker 4: Go for dose. Drink responsible.
Speaker 2: If you need a friend. Soluto is strange, you know.
Speaker 6: In the end, I.
Speaker 1: Dus from the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off
the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
Speaker 4: Don't be.
Speaker 3: I did not come in today expecting, you know, an
eighties vibe. But it's made this Tuesday bearable and Tuesdays
are typically unbearable.
Speaker 4: Has been a nice little Tuesday, been a nice little tude.
It's been a good energy. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I hadn't been sleepy at all.
Speaker 4: I dj alundra over there. Yeah, shout out dejails.
Speaker 3: I need like an air horn, some of the ass.
Speaker 4: And the fog machine.
Speaker 6: We had a fog machine in here, that'd be badass
great every intro. I would just yeah, wait, somebody asked
you what?
Speaker 4: Somebody asked if we should do eighties Tuesdays going on?
Speaker 3: Should we?
Speaker 4: I mean? I actually then we have themes?
Speaker 6: Should we do them for every day?
Speaker 4: But we also reserve the right to change just on
a whim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have, like I guess Thursday, since now R
and B's are on Wednesday, Like Thursday can be a
wild and out like whatever. Yeah, you know, like, yeah, Tuesday,
Eighties Wednesday, R and B.
Speaker 4: We can we can ditch funky Friday.
Speaker 6: I think I'm going to make the executive decision.
Speaker 4: Maybe just one an hour.
Speaker 3: Well, it's not that I think the closer song is good.
Speaker 4: It's not the music. Well yeah, it's well.
Speaker 8: We're playing it those of you Friday, Me and A Launder.
Notice you never have your head set on, so I
know I hear some of it.
Speaker 4: I definitely hear.
Speaker 6: I told you that I went down a rabbit hole
was it last Friday? Because I was running out of
funk songs and I'm not.
Speaker 3: I obviously know they're not that funky.
Speaker 4: I know the hits.
Speaker 6: I'm not that funky though. So I went on down
a rabbit hole, started with James Brown the King, and
I've got some but I think I think it's something.
Speaker 3: We gotta just written.
Speaker 4: Hire.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm with you, all right.
Speaker 4: We got some more film to watch, we do.
Speaker 3: Okay, So this is a great job by Matt pulling
up this play. I come back in. We were talking
about it, and it shows you. I don't want to
say how perfect you have to be, but kind of
you do. It's a perfect example. Like all eleven guys
working in Unison, I don't think there's any more part
of football that that plays than the run game and
how close you can be, how close you can be.
Speaker 7: So we are in eleven personnel here. So what they're
trying to do. They line up with a bower out
wide and it's really yet line of tight end out
wide or running back to see if you can get
a man's zone read early. So look, check it out.
We line him up outside. We got a linebacker outside. Okay,
what do you know? What do you think that is?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 3: I almost say that's main cover.
Speaker 7: That's gonna be a man covers. You got a linebacker
on a tight end, he's motioning in with it. So
we all know it's man to man at this point, right,
Even the receivers should notes man a man.
Speaker 4: Everybody should be queued in on their pre snap keys.
Speaker 7: Okay, so what we're doing here, Jake and out, we're
just trying to decipher what this play with.
Speaker 4: This is a stretch to the right.
Speaker 7: A stretch means there's an inside zone, there's an outside zone,
and then there's a stretch play, which is like way
outside zone. Your stretching the defense trying to get outside.
Speaker 3: And it's a it's still like a zone concept because
you can hit it in multiple different places. It's not
like a gap scheme where it's a gap or B gap.
Speaker 4: But this is a look.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with the footwork that I see from Kitten Durham
and the blocking and kind of the footsteps that they're taking,
this is a stretch and.
Speaker 4: The stretch play.
Speaker 7: You can see the right tackle and the tight end
they're stretching out to that guy. They're gonna try to
hook him. Right Tackle's never gonna look a tackle is
never gonna look great and powerful on a stretch. But
you're just your job to hook him, and he got
a hooked right there the tight end. Make sure he
pushes him down in there so he can't hook him
gets to the second level. It's a great job abou
the center. I was I was critical to the center
when I first saw this because I thought it was
outside zone and which if it was just a regular
zone play, you would see the center work straight up
to twenty nine, fifty nine, fifty six doing a good job,
seventy five does a good job.
Speaker 4: Ten does a good job.
Speaker 7: Everything is good for an outside stretch to bounce outside,
except for one critical mistake that the offense did.
Speaker 4: It's mandaman. You have a receiver.
Speaker 7: In what is called a nasty split, which is a tight,
tightened down split from an outside receiver.
Speaker 4: It's in man demand. In a Manda man rule, run
your guy off. He's not. He's not worried about that.
He's not worried about the run. His eyes on you.
So watch what happens.
Speaker 7: We decide to go take the safety and we leave
our guy, and it flashes color for Kaden Durham. You
can see Cayden is running to the outside and does
not stop until that corner down here, you point at
it right here.
Speaker 4: It flashes blue.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and as soon as he sees free blue because
he decides to go to safety. Now, I still, honestly
i'd like to see Kayden Durham go shuttle of one
with a corner. I still like Kayden Durham in that matchup.
But for him, he sees what now is an unblocked guy.
Where if the receiver just right now, just outside release
and just goes down the field, that just takes is
in his hip and he's following him the entire way,
and you have that corner, you're on the twenty yard line,
you're at the numbers, and it is you one on
one with a safety.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: And I like Kayden Durham in that matchup because there's
a lot of space just simply by a receiver taking
an outside release and running him off in man cover.
Speaker 7: And watch the stripe of his helmet. You can always
tell what they're looking by the stripe on a helmet.
And we always look at quarterbacks. Where are you looking
with the box? I can see your stripe. Watch Kaden
Durham's stripe. He's looking outside of bower sharp over here.
My slow motion for you wants looking at it, looking
at where he wants hit it outside, outside, and then
he turns boom ah, and.
Speaker 3: If he doesn't see that color flash man, he is
hitting the sideline and look, he is one move away
from making the safety miss and hitting his head up
on the goalpost on the other side in the south endzon.
Speaker 7: For a stretch play. There is no other reason in
the world to line your tight end out to get
a man's zone read then to tell that receiver his responsibility.
You either run your guy off in man or if
it's zone, come off and block him. You get the
most threatening guy the corner of the safety. Who's the
biggest threat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that safety's playing so far back. That's me.
Speaker 3: That's my guy. I'm the running back. You can't block everybody, right,
they got one more than you because of you know,
the quarterback. Okay, so I've got to make him miss.
That's on me, like certainly when he's coming from death
right there. So leave that guy for me. So I
guess if I can't make you miss, don't get somebody
else in there of the can Week three.
Speaker 7: Those are the little things that you watch on film
and you clean up. Those are the things that you
do clean up walk throughs afterwards to clean that stuff up.
That's why teams get better, because the little things get
a little bit better every single week.
Speaker 3: I know, we got take a break easy. I'm not
saying it's a bad read from Kayden. Actually, like kind
of like the color flashing right now, that's what it
kind of tells you to do is try to go
find something back inside because again, on the stretch you
can hit it on multiple places. I'm just saying like
he could have tried to press it and maybe make
that guy miss. Now, he also could have got tackled
for no gain right there on the line of scrimmage.
But if the receiver just runs that guy off, yep.
Speaker 7: But that's what we're talking about, Like you want to engage,
you want to clip the little things because of running
back things are happening that it's like a fractions of
a split second, right, So when you see color flash,
that's what makes you go, yep.
Speaker 3: All right, we got to break. We'll do it now
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