WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.160 --> 00:00:03.799 Bulky it's episode twenty one. Oh we've done twenty one 2 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:04.160 of these. 3 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:07.240 Yeah, holy cow right, I know time flies when you 4 00:00:07.480 --> 00:00:10.000 remember when we bet, when we used to memorize, like 5 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.439 we knew okay, the first one we did was a 6 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:16.519 final destination like you had, and like, I don't know, 7 00:00:16.600 --> 00:00:19.280 at some point, I'm like, I can't remember. Oh, yeah, 8 00:00:19.320 --> 00:00:22.039 that's long gone. That happened to me with Super Bowls. Honestly, like, 9 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:23.600 there was a time when I could have gone from 10 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:26.199 nineteen eighty seven, the year I was born, all the 11 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:28.960 way up until like twenty seventeen or twenty eighteen without 12 00:00:28.960 --> 00:00:31.000 even thinking. It was basically like my alphabet. I was 13 00:00:31.000 --> 00:00:33.359 like bam bam, bam, bam bam, last seven or eight 14 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:35.520 years now. And now I'm like, I know Kansas City 15 00:00:35.600 --> 00:00:38.039 was in there a couple of times. Yeah, But like 16 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.000 it it's once you get long enough, man, it becomes hazy. 17 00:00:41.119 --> 00:00:43.320 I I yeah, I used to have a memorized yeah, 18 00:00:43.359 --> 00:00:48.479 and then I think right around when Brady's dominence started, 19 00:00:48.479 --> 00:00:50.359 then I kind of lost track, Yeah, because I mean, like, 20 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:52.799 the human brain can only take so much and then 21 00:00:52.960 --> 00:00:55.679 after a while you have to forget stuff to learn 22 00:00:55.759 --> 00:00:56.320 new stuff. 23 00:00:56.439 --> 00:00:58.719 You know that's what they just just that's how it works, 24 00:00:58.799 --> 00:01:01.679 since what they tell me twenty one episodes in Bulk, 25 00:01:01.759 --> 00:01:03.679 And I think I can finally say and I will say, 26 00:01:03.679 --> 00:01:05.599 I'll have some nice things to say about this, okay, 27 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:08.120 And I think we finally found our first clunker of 28 00:01:08.159 --> 00:01:08.599 the bunch. 29 00:01:08.879 --> 00:01:10.079 Yeah. 30 00:01:10.359 --> 00:01:13.599 I told I was taking my buddy Stirfry at work 31 00:01:13.640 --> 00:01:16.400 today and I said, I think this is going to 32 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:19.840 get my lowest rating of now that I know that 33 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.400 this is the twenty first rating that we've given out, 34 00:01:23.560 --> 00:01:24.079 this will. 35 00:01:23.920 --> 00:01:26.359 Probably be my lowest. I think that. 36 00:01:26.640 --> 00:01:29.719 And we're talking about the twenty twenty four film It's 37 00:01:29.760 --> 00:01:34.439 What's Inside. Yes, this is directed and written by Greg Jardin, 38 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:37.319 who I should probably have done some research on this guy. 39 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:41.519 I don't know what he has done since then or before. Yeah, 40 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:44.400 we'll get to that though, I promise, Okay, all right. 41 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:54.439 And basically the film is featuring eight friends roughly yeah thereabouts, yeah. 42 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:56.799 And essentially one of these friends they all get together 43 00:01:57.439 --> 00:01:59.840 ahead of one of their I head the night before 44 00:02:00.000 --> 00:02:02.439 one of them is getting married. They're all college friends 45 00:02:02.519 --> 00:02:04.319 or whatever, and they're all in like their mid to 46 00:02:04.400 --> 00:02:07.599 late twenties. Now they get together and one of them 47 00:02:07.640 --> 00:02:13.319 has this device that allows them to essentially their consciousness 48 00:02:13.680 --> 00:02:19.800 switch bodies. So Friend A's conscious goes into friend Bee's body, 49 00:02:20.120 --> 00:02:23.360 Friend's Be's consciousness goes into friends C's body, you know, 50 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:25.599 and their flip flop. And it starts off as a 51 00:02:25.599 --> 00:02:28.960 game like, oh, let's guess who's who here, and then 52 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:35.000 there's the development the madness ensues when something crazy happens, 53 00:02:35.639 --> 00:02:40.280 and then you know, we'll try not to explain away everything. 54 00:02:41.120 --> 00:02:43.599 My biggest issue with this film. 55 00:02:43.360 --> 00:02:44.840 I think I know what it is, but hit me 56 00:02:44.879 --> 00:02:46.240 with it. It took me. 57 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:51.080 It took like forty five minutes roughly for anything to happen. 58 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.439 There was a ton of exposition, and I understand like 59 00:02:54.479 --> 00:02:56.479 you probably needed some of that. I don't think you 60 00:02:56.560 --> 00:02:59.120 needed all of it. There was a lot of just 61 00:02:59.240 --> 00:03:02.120 kind of like I don't know if it was if 62 00:03:02.199 --> 00:03:05.319 they're trying to set you up to get comfortable and 63 00:03:05.360 --> 00:03:07.680 familiar and see what's going to happen, and then all 64 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:10.759 of a sudden things just kind of turn on its ear. 65 00:03:11.199 --> 00:03:13.400 And because of the false sense of security that you 66 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:15.719 were into in the first forty five to fifty minutes 67 00:03:15.759 --> 00:03:19.360 of the film is accentuated when this big event happens. 68 00:03:19.439 --> 00:03:21.800 I don't know if that's what happened. It just took 69 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:22.919 so long. And I was. 70 00:03:22.919 --> 00:03:26.680 Watching this in the first I was like fifteen minutes in. 71 00:03:27.120 --> 00:03:30.360 And by the way, this is available on Netflix. Who 72 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:31.960 recommended this film to you? 73 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:32.319 Ben? 74 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:35.520 My brother and I were bouncing movies off of one another, 75 00:03:35.639 --> 00:03:39.080 and we were both commenting on how lackluster this October 76 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:41.919 has been in terms, so this came with a grain 77 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:43.639 of salt. He said, I'm not saying this is the 78 00:03:43.639 --> 00:03:47.199 best thing I've seen, However, in a lackluster season, this 79 00:03:47.400 --> 00:03:48.560 is worth checking out. 80 00:03:48.599 --> 00:03:48.840 He said. 81 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:52.680 It's a cool idea. Yes, that has its moments. And 82 00:03:52.680 --> 00:03:55.759 I would argue, yes, it does, but there were a 83 00:03:55.759 --> 00:03:57.719 lot of shortcomings, and you hit on the one that 84 00:03:57.800 --> 00:03:58.520 stuck out to me. 85 00:03:58.680 --> 00:03:59.240 But go ahead. 86 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:01.800 The final point I want to make before I turn 87 00:04:01.840 --> 00:04:03.639 it back to you. One of the things he told 88 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.599 you that you told me For the first twenty minutes, 89 00:04:06.639 --> 00:04:08.960 you'd be like, I, let you're gonna think I led 90 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.360 you down the wrong pathway. Yeah, like it's it's it's rough, 91 00:04:11.400 --> 00:04:15.360 but just just be patient wait for it. And I 92 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:16.800 thought about that fifteen minutes in. 93 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.199 I'm like, God, me too, just too. 94 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:23.079 I would have turned it off honestly if we weren't 95 00:04:23.120 --> 00:04:25.720 doing it just it held zero interest. But it's the 96 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:28.160 importance of like, you know, sticking around for the entire 97 00:04:28.480 --> 00:04:31.360 vision of the director, the entire vision of the writer, 98 00:04:31.759 --> 00:04:34.279 and we had to see what happens. 99 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:36.720 So I'll let you. I mean, you and I both 100 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:40.040 agreed too much exposition, too slow of a start. Yeah, 101 00:04:40.120 --> 00:04:42.000 what else did you that's an understatement. 102 00:04:42.079 --> 00:04:44.639 I believe I paused it because, like you and I 103 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:49.079 are anti spoiler, but to me, uh, driving forces of 104 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:51.759 a movie aren't necessarily a spoiler. Like what we did 105 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.240 Good Fortune, we were like the guy was hard on 106 00:04:54.279 --> 00:04:56.360 his luck and he switched lives with a billionaire and 107 00:04:56.360 --> 00:04:57.920 now you got to live as that and the billionaire 108 00:04:57.920 --> 00:04:58.720 had to live as him. 109 00:04:58.720 --> 00:05:00.480 It's kind of bizarre that we did those back to back. 110 00:05:00.639 --> 00:05:03.920 Yeah, right, weird, But like the reason it feels like 111 00:05:03.959 --> 00:05:06.680 a spoiler because I paused the movie and like I 112 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:09.079 almost I'm not even afraid to say it, because it's 113 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.480 in the description of the movie that it happens somebody 114 00:05:12.519 --> 00:05:16.199 dies while they're switching bodies, and that happens an hour 115 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:20.480 and five minutes into an hour and forty five minute movie. Yeah, 116 00:05:20.519 --> 00:05:23.319 and to be honest with you, Balky, it was slow 117 00:05:23.480 --> 00:05:26.199 pacing leading up to that, and I think where this 118 00:05:26.279 --> 00:05:29.240 movie struggled was then on the other side, this group 119 00:05:29.279 --> 00:05:34.040 of lifelong friends turns on each other really quickly. Like 120 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:36.279 I was thinking about it. 121 00:05:36.399 --> 00:05:39.519 Okay, you say they turned on you, Really they turn 122 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:42.560 on each other really quickly. Think about what's going on, yeah, 123 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:46.439 and then think about the finality of what they're facing here. 124 00:05:46.959 --> 00:05:50.439 I mean I might turn on people pretty quickly then too. YEA, sure, 125 00:05:50.600 --> 00:05:52.560 you know, because I think that there's were these were 126 00:05:52.680 --> 00:05:55.040 serious high stakes, Yeah, are going on. 127 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:56.680 It's it's very high stakes. 128 00:05:56.680 --> 00:05:59.120 But I guess I was putting myself in that position 129 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.040 with my high school friends, the guys I've known since 130 00:06:02.120 --> 00:06:05.319 kindergarten where I was six years old, and one of 131 00:06:05.399 --> 00:06:07.639 us ends up biting it while we're in this position, 132 00:06:07.680 --> 00:06:09.600 and how the rest of us would be handling it, 133 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:12.680 and immediately the dirt starts coming out on one another 134 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.160 and they all start backstabbing one another, and it gets 135 00:06:15.160 --> 00:06:17.519 to some pretty high level stuff by the end of 136 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:17.920 the movie. 137 00:06:17.959 --> 00:06:18.560 What they're doing. 138 00:06:18.759 --> 00:06:24.040 I do think that there's a lot of selfishness exhibited 139 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:26.720 by these characters. But if you look at you know 140 00:06:26.920 --> 00:06:33.040 who these people were. Instagram influencer, sure, trust fund baby, 141 00:06:33.800 --> 00:06:38.800 a guy who who really in many ways abuses his girlfriend, 142 00:06:38.920 --> 00:06:43.959 right yeah, emotionally, emotionally emotionally abuses are yeah, this is 143 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:49.040 these are not great people, right No. And so to me, like, 144 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:51.319 I get why they turned on each other because I 145 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:53.639 don't think they were very wholesome to begin with. Quite frankly, 146 00:06:54.000 --> 00:06:59.120 the most wholesome person in this became sort of the 147 00:06:59.120 --> 00:07:02.519 most cutthroat towards the end, which I thought was kind 148 00:07:02.519 --> 00:07:02.800 of cool. 149 00:07:02.879 --> 00:07:04.519 It was actually the best part of the whole movie 150 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:07.519 in my opinion, that that arc that that character went on. 151 00:07:07.839 --> 00:07:10.079 They even she uses lines towards the end of the 152 00:07:10.079 --> 00:07:12.160 movie that they kind of hint at towards the middle 153 00:07:12.199 --> 00:07:14.120 of the movie that like, and it was just done 154 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:16.199 in a very well way. That was probably one of 155 00:07:16.240 --> 00:07:18.319 the only things that I truly came out of that 156 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:21.360 is just mesmerized by. And I will say, and I realized, 157 00:07:21.360 --> 00:07:23.000 this is going to make me sound like a plebeian 158 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:25.519 the kapleeb, like a commoner in terms of movies. But 159 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:27.639 I'm gonna have to say this out loud. This is 160 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:29.720 a thing that I've been thinking for over a decade. 161 00:07:29.759 --> 00:07:31.800 At this point. I used to say, when Walking Dad 162 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:35.000 was in its prime, Yeah, I would say, how are 163 00:07:35.079 --> 00:07:38.680 movie studios going to go back to making zombie movies? 164 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.680 Because now that I'm four years into this and I 165 00:07:41.759 --> 00:07:45.120 have this emotional connection to all these characters, how do 166 00:07:45.160 --> 00:07:48.879 you expect me to develop that kind of connection over 167 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:52.480 the course of ninety minutes and then have no follow 168 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:53.519 up after that? 169 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:54.480 Do you know what I mean? 170 00:07:54.879 --> 00:07:58.000 And eventually, because the Marvel Cinematic Universe was kind of 171 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:00.600 in its in its prepubestent stage, Disney hadn't even bought 172 00:08:00.600 --> 00:08:03.680 it yet, it became clear to me that shared universes 173 00:08:03.800 --> 00:08:05.920 was going to be the answer to that. Like, there 174 00:08:06.000 --> 00:08:08.160 is a reason to see this because it is part 175 00:08:08.199 --> 00:08:10.199 of a bigger thing, and it is worth coming out 176 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.920 here to go and check out. They took an hour 177 00:08:13.120 --> 00:08:16.199 setting up these characters that I found myself not caring 178 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:19.040 about any of them. Yeah, and it kind of was 179 00:08:19.160 --> 00:08:22.279 all of my problems with the way cinema was headed 180 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.920 all rolled up into one movie. You had characters, the 181 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:27.519 acting was fine. I thought that there were a couple 182 00:08:27.560 --> 00:08:30.040 of interesting character tropes that were in there, but like, 183 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:33.480 why do I care about these people? The interesting part 184 00:08:34.159 --> 00:08:37.399 was the body switching, Like that was why I was here. 185 00:08:37.600 --> 00:08:39.679 It felt like I was watching Clue. Towards the end, 186 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:42.120 it was awesome, Like I actually liked that part of it. 187 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:45.080 I would have liked forty more minutes of that kind 188 00:08:45.120 --> 00:08:47.279 of stuff where people are bouncing back and forth and 189 00:08:47.320 --> 00:08:49.759 you have no concept. They focused too much on the 190 00:08:49.799 --> 00:08:52.679 interpersonal drama for a bunch of people that were never 191 00:08:52.759 --> 00:08:55.120 gonna hear from again, and like that is kind of 192 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:57.000 where I struggle, And I realized there's gonna be movie 193 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:58.960 people that hate that I said that, but that That's 194 00:08:59.000 --> 00:09:00.360 where I'm coming at this now. 195 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:02.360 The argument there is that in. 196 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:05.480 Order for us to truly appreciate, which I didn't because 197 00:09:05.480 --> 00:09:09.919 I was overwhelmed by all the bodies switching, to appreciate 198 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:12.320 the something people, you have to know the people. You 199 00:09:12.440 --> 00:09:17.159 have to know their their their language, the way they speak. 200 00:09:17.200 --> 00:09:19.559 And and I will say this talk about the acting 201 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:21.559 was fine. I thought the acting was. 202 00:09:21.600 --> 00:09:27.000 Really really good because these characters had these actors had 203 00:09:27.039 --> 00:09:32.000 to play the same character as as other actors in 204 00:09:32.039 --> 00:09:35.159 the movie, right, so you know some of these you know, 205 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:39.720 the these eight people, they all played a minimum of 206 00:09:39.720 --> 00:09:41.480 of two different characters. 207 00:09:42.000 --> 00:09:45.240 Because there were two rounds of the game. Yea more 208 00:09:45.279 --> 00:09:48.120 people and then some of them pretend to be other people. 209 00:09:48.519 --> 00:09:50.840 That was the other thing that, Yeah, that was the 210 00:09:51.159 --> 00:09:53.080 twist at the end. I thought was pretty cool too. 211 00:09:54.120 --> 00:09:59.000 The but you could see I think it was Forbes 212 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:05.120 when when he was being played by the actor playing 213 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:06.519 Forbes in this. 214 00:10:06.480 --> 00:10:08.120 Movie, this is going to be so confused. 215 00:10:08.720 --> 00:10:12.879 The actor playing Forbes in this movie was switched into 216 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:19.480 another character's body. No, yeah, well, okay, it's too confusing. 217 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:22.320 There's a scene where they're in like some sort of. 218 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:26.240 Greenhouse. It was a greenhouse, sure, Yeah. 219 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.000 And the acting by the character by by the fore 220 00:10:30.080 --> 00:10:34.600 the actor playing Forbes, Yeah, okay, I thought was brilliant 221 00:10:34.679 --> 00:10:37.720 of how he was playing this other character, because you know, 222 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:42.320 even though it was only like an hour, even though 223 00:10:42.320 --> 00:10:45.080 it was only an hour, you kind of develop, like, okay, 224 00:10:45.159 --> 00:10:47.960 the mannerisms and the way that they speak and talk 225 00:10:48.039 --> 00:10:49.159 and move around. 226 00:10:49.519 --> 00:10:51.960 I could see that. Yeah, And I started to see 227 00:10:51.960 --> 00:10:53.600 it in other characters as well. Yeah. 228 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.759 Some then I started picking up on like, oh, okay, 229 00:10:56.799 --> 00:10:59.039 you know, because you the audience is they're playing a 230 00:10:59.039 --> 00:11:01.759 game to guess who's who, right, yes, and we're kind 231 00:11:01.799 --> 00:11:06.879 of playing that as well, right, and so to be 232 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:09.679 tipped off. I don't want to say the exposition was needed, 233 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:12.559 like all that setup was needed, but it did help 234 00:11:12.679 --> 00:11:13.759 in those moments. 235 00:11:13.919 --> 00:11:14.279 It did. 236 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:16.679 I actually texted you while I was watching the movie, 237 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:17.360 and I, oh, you did. 238 00:11:17.600 --> 00:11:17.799 Yeah. 239 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:19.879 It was just a text that just said, there's way 240 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:23.320 too many characters in this Yeah, there were too many characters. 241 00:11:23.440 --> 00:11:27.519 Yees watching the way that it was all unfolding, and 242 00:11:27.559 --> 00:11:29.639 I was paying attention, like I was into it and 243 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:32.639 had been recommended. And it's a Sundance Film Festival film, 244 00:11:32.679 --> 00:11:35.360 which is not a guarantee of quality, but I do 245 00:11:35.399 --> 00:11:37.320 give that a little bit of credence when I hear 246 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:39.600 that it comes from there, because I tend to like 247 00:11:39.639 --> 00:11:41.600 that kind of stuff. You definitely get the most unique 248 00:11:41.639 --> 00:11:47.120 ideas out of that. It's just i'll tell you, you 249 00:11:47.159 --> 00:11:50.919 and I watch stuff that isn't necessarily four hour demographic, 250 00:11:50.960 --> 00:11:53.159 like I'm willing to skew younger. I mean, comic book 251 00:11:53.200 --> 00:11:55.120 movies are for fourteen year olds. It just so happens 252 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:57.200 that we enjoy them as well, and that's absolutely fine. 253 00:11:57.279 --> 00:11:58.480 Oh they're for fourteen year olds. 254 00:11:59.600 --> 00:12:02.240 Well, yeah, you know, for all, that's just it there 255 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:05.600 for anybody, her perpetual for team, and there we go. Yeah, 256 00:12:05.879 --> 00:12:07.679 this time though, it was a little different. Like I 257 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.639 always say, there's a difference between watching Batman and watching 258 00:12:10.720 --> 00:12:13.320 Spider Man. When I'm watching Spider Man, I'm like, I 259 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:16.759 feel a little older than the demographic for this movie, yep. 260 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:18.960 Whereas watching Batman, I'm like, no, this is for me, 261 00:12:19.080 --> 00:12:20.879 even though it's a movie about a guy dressing up 262 00:12:20.879 --> 00:12:23.240 as a bat punching people at night, right, Like, I'm like, no, 263 00:12:23.399 --> 00:12:24.840 this is for me. This has an edge to it 264 00:12:24.879 --> 00:12:27.200 that I'm okay with. This is one of those movies 265 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.559 and even dealt in problems and not to minimize it. 266 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:31.399 Like there's an idea about like poor an addiction in 267 00:12:31.440 --> 00:12:34.200 this movie that wasn't Like I'm sure there's people in 268 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.399 my life that I'm unaware that are addicted to it, 269 00:12:36.440 --> 00:12:38.600 but like it's not a thing that we grew up on, 270 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:41.080 Whereas if you graduated from high school two or three 271 00:12:41.159 --> 00:12:43.120 years ago, I think this is a much more prevalent 272 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:44.919 idea in the circles that you run with. 273 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.559 There was a Sturfry was telling me he thought that 274 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:49.960 the whole first hour was just all, He's like, oh, 275 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:52.879 it's just gen Z a millennial talk. Yeah, you know, yes, 276 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.399 And I'm like, dude, dude, aren't you a millennial And 277 00:12:55.759 --> 00:12:57.440 he's like yeah, And even I didn't enjoy it. 278 00:12:57.679 --> 00:12:59.840 Because elder millennial is different. I was talking about that 279 00:13:00.080 --> 00:13:02.000 outside the Box today. I was like, I spent half 280 00:13:02.000 --> 00:13:04.279 my life without a cell phone. We had one computer 281 00:13:04.360 --> 00:13:05.919 in the house. I didn't spend a lot of time 282 00:13:05.960 --> 00:13:08.919 on the internet. Like, even though the internet was around 283 00:13:08.919 --> 00:13:11.240 and video games were around, video games kind of sucked. 284 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:12.480 It was Nintendo and Sega. 285 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:15.200 I didn't, you know, I didn't have a phone. I mean, 286 00:13:15.200 --> 00:13:17.080 we had a landline, we had one computer and no 287 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:18.000 video game system. 288 00:13:18.080 --> 00:13:21.000 There you go exactly, So like there is even though 289 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:24.840 your millennials, like I felt old watching this revie, like 290 00:13:24.879 --> 00:13:26.879 that's the best way that I not that that's a 291 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.399 bad thing, but I'm saying it was definitely in my 292 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:32.840 mind while I was watching this. A lot of their problems, 293 00:13:32.879 --> 00:13:35.360 a lot of the back and forth and uh, I'll 294 00:13:35.399 --> 00:13:38.039 but just on a personal level, I never have respect 295 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.240 for the plots, Like I'm very much as a man 296 00:13:40.240 --> 00:13:42.799 who's been perpetually single as soon as it really like 297 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:44.879 I'm just like, oh, I don't need to deal with this. 298 00:13:44.960 --> 00:13:47.120 And there was a lot of relationship trauma in this 299 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:49.120 movie that I'm like, Okay, then go see somebody else, 300 00:13:49.159 --> 00:13:51.320 Like what are we talking about here? And I realized 301 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.840 not everyone's wired that way, but that those kind of 302 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:56.639 plots they feel younger, it feels a little more immature. 303 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:58.519 And that was kind of that was I was sitting 304 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:00.960 there watching. Honestly, I was thinking about you because I 305 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:03.279 feel like I am more immature than you are, and 306 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.080 I'm sitting there like, oh, if I feel this way, 307 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:08.240 I can't imagine what balk you know. 308 00:14:08.480 --> 00:14:09.120 Like it did. 309 00:14:09.200 --> 00:14:11.960 It did open up possibilities like when you're because there 310 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:15.039 is a lot of I don't want to say sexual 311 00:14:15.200 --> 00:14:18.480 tension between some of these characters, but there was. I mean, 312 00:14:18.559 --> 00:14:20.840 these these were longtime friends, you know, friends that had 313 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:24.759 been ostensibly friends since college, right, and I'm assuming they're 314 00:14:24.879 --> 00:14:28.840 right about to turn thirty rough, So so this is 315 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:31.120 like this is I think it was literally eight years 316 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:34.200 after you know, they had they had you know last 317 00:14:34.960 --> 00:14:36.960 I don't say last seen each other, but last we're 318 00:14:37.000 --> 00:14:40.080 at college together. Sure, And so there was some you 319 00:14:40.080 --> 00:14:45.000 know potential, you know, failed hookups, you know where one 320 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.120 person wanted it the other person didn't. At the time, 321 00:14:47.480 --> 00:14:50.639 there was two people wanted it, but they couldn't make 322 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:53.440 it happen for whatever reason. And so then when you 323 00:14:53.480 --> 00:14:56.200 can switch bodies all of a sudden, like, hey, are 324 00:14:56.200 --> 00:14:59.080 we cheating? Are we not cheating because I'm in a 325 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.799 different body. Yeah, and you're in a different body, and 326 00:15:02.799 --> 00:15:07.120 and uh, you know, so I think that opens up, 327 00:15:07.639 --> 00:15:11.240 you know, questions from a lot of audience members, like 328 00:15:11.320 --> 00:15:13.120 what would you do in that scenario? 329 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:18.440 You know, which I just ride it out. Personally, I 330 00:15:18.440 --> 00:15:19.440 wouldn't have played. 331 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.720 Well, yeah, okay, let's get I definitely wouldn't have played 332 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:23.679 a second time. 333 00:15:24.159 --> 00:15:26.840 Well, I wouldn't have played a first time, No way, 334 00:15:27.039 --> 00:15:29.639 no way in hell. This weird guy and the setup 335 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.039 for Forbes, yeah, you know, and like sort of like 336 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:33.879 and he's the creepiest looking guy too. 337 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:36.360 I was gonna say it was distracting, actually how funny 338 00:15:36.360 --> 00:15:38.559 looking he was and we are bulky and I were 339 00:15:38.600 --> 00:15:41.000 not saying we're attractive people. I'm just saying he was 340 00:15:41.399 --> 00:15:42.279 so off putting. 341 00:15:42.440 --> 00:15:45.519 He was cast for a reason, yeah, I mean, clearly, 342 00:15:46.720 --> 00:15:50.879 but but but it opens up all these questions, what 343 00:15:50.919 --> 00:15:53.399 would you do in that scenario, you wouldn't have played 344 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:53.919 the second time. 345 00:15:53.919 --> 00:15:55.559 I wouldn't have messed around with it the first time. 346 00:15:55.799 --> 00:15:57.159 I even think peer pressure. 347 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:00.320 I mean, granted, I'm forty five now, so peer pressure 348 00:16:00.399 --> 00:16:02.000 does not have the same effect on me and it 349 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:05.000 was in my twenties, but I would have been like, Yeah, 350 00:16:05.200 --> 00:16:07.600 what are we doing here, We're messing around, We're playing 351 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:11.320 with fire, which playing with fire is usually make some 352 00:16:11.360 --> 00:16:15.200 pretty good films. And you knew that bad things were 353 00:16:15.240 --> 00:16:18.240 gonna happen. And honestly I mentioned this to you. I 354 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:20.559 can't remember with maybe I mentioned it to you last week. 355 00:16:21.039 --> 00:16:22.840 A lot of this reminded me of the film, and 356 00:16:23.159 --> 00:16:26.600 maybe more so than than Good Fortune, the film Very Bad. 357 00:16:26.519 --> 00:16:28.039 Things, which I think I mentioned to you. 358 00:16:28.240 --> 00:16:31.759 Christian Slater, Yeah, Stern, yeh. 359 00:16:32.639 --> 00:16:33.000 Favreau. 360 00:16:33.080 --> 00:16:35.919 John Favreau is in that as well, where you know 361 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:38.559 you're just having a good time, you're playing around, but 362 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.320 when you play around with something serious, it has it 363 00:16:42.440 --> 00:16:46.679 could have significant consequences. And all these people's lives I think, 364 00:16:46.720 --> 00:16:50.799 I'm I don't think I'm being hyperbolic here. I think 365 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:52.519 all these people's lives were changed. 366 00:16:52.919 --> 00:16:56.240 Oh after after this game, Yeah, and I found myself 367 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:58.080 thinking because of course it's a horror movie. 368 00:16:58.159 --> 00:17:00.919 Inevitably, cops, I was gonna ask you, would you classify 369 00:17:01.000 --> 00:17:04.559 this as horror? Yeah, there wasn't. There wasn't any gore hardly. Yeah, 370 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.200 there's a little bit one one little bit one part 371 00:17:07.519 --> 00:17:09.880 and it wasn't even really gory. I yeah, I don't 372 00:17:09.920 --> 00:17:10.119 know how. 373 00:17:10.200 --> 00:17:13.039 I I liked how they would do, like they would 374 00:17:13.079 --> 00:17:15.240 turn it into a red room and show you who's 375 00:17:15.319 --> 00:17:18.079 inside the person that echo features too. 376 00:17:18.680 --> 00:17:20.920 I'm glad they did that because there were times where 377 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.440 I was lost. So if you were, if you're worried 378 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.799 about getting confused on who's who, they have this obvious 379 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:31.039 way of showing it to you where they they tinge 380 00:17:31.079 --> 00:17:33.160 it with what you call it a red room. 381 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:36.559 That is that a no, no, that's just because they 382 00:17:36.640 --> 00:17:38.200 put a giant red light on the room. 383 00:17:38.480 --> 00:17:42.000 Everybody was and then so basically and yeah, this is 384 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:45.160 not spoiling anything. Anytime you see the red light on 385 00:17:45.319 --> 00:17:48.759 these characters, you see who's really inside those bodies. 386 00:17:49.039 --> 00:17:51.079 So it kind of you And there's a sound distortion 387 00:17:51.240 --> 00:17:53.200 that I found a little bit a little bit. Yeah, 388 00:17:53.400 --> 00:17:56.359 like I think if I weren't so numb to horror 389 00:17:56.400 --> 00:17:58.319 at this point, it might have been a little bit 390 00:17:58.400 --> 00:18:01.000 freakier to me. And I always have to ask myself 391 00:18:01.039 --> 00:18:03.759 if I were fourteen, how would I be handling this? 392 00:18:04.000 --> 00:18:06.519 Who are you in this movie? Who were you? You 393 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:08.240 do remember the characters? That's just it. 394 00:18:08.480 --> 00:18:11.039 I think none of them were memorable enough for me 395 00:18:11.319 --> 00:18:14.079 to be like, oh this, this is definitely the person 396 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.799 that I would recognize myself as. And like, I've never 397 00:18:16.920 --> 00:18:19.759 been particularly like I'm a pretty good boyfriend. I'm not 398 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:23.480 a trust fund baby like I'm not. I was gonna say, 399 00:18:23.519 --> 00:18:25.559 probably the closest thing I'd be is either Shelby or 400 00:18:25.640 --> 00:18:28.759 the because technically radio is the first social media. 401 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:32.480