Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the
Speaker 1: Poker Go Podcast. My name is Donny Peters, his name
Speaker 1: is a rempco rink, and we have a new w
Speaker 1: s P Main event champion.
Speaker 2: Sir Jude ju Jew.
Speaker 1: Is it? Uh? I gotta ask you you're there at
Speaker 1: least on this show, because there's two of us, you're
Speaker 1: the expert on this. Is that the best us A
Speaker 1: chant you've heard at the main event final table?
Speaker 2: I know you hate the us A USA.
Speaker 3: I think I think as far as chance go, if
Speaker 3: you're part of an American rail and you come up
Speaker 3: with anything other than us A, you've gotta you gotta
Speaker 3: like gold medal.
Speaker 2: In my book.
Speaker 1: Well, the juke Ju Juke Molan was very very good.
Speaker 1: Luky Poky was also very good. They were chanting, uh,
Speaker 1: Spokane Red Cross because of the wildfires that are going
Speaker 1: on in Spokane, Washington, where he's from at one point too,
Speaker 1: so a nod to the people there. Hope everyone is safe.
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, the vibes today incredible, were absolutely incredible.
Speaker 3: I will say that, you know, recency bias and all
Speaker 3: taken into consideration, this was one of the most electric
Speaker 3: final tables that I can remember, especially with the way
Speaker 3: it all played out. And we'll get into the hands
Speaker 3: later on. But after a slow start on day one
Speaker 3: of the final tables, Days two and three were simply
Speaker 3: must watch TV. And I think that poker really delivered
Speaker 3: for itself.
Speaker 1: After day one. And it obviously, you know, we know
Speaker 1: and the listeners know that things can change in one hand,
Speaker 1: and you know it can be an entire different dynamic
Speaker 1: of viewing experience, etc. But I'd be lying if I said,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know about this final table coming
Speaker 1: out of day one. It's not that I didn't enjoy it,
Speaker 1: you know, but I was just trying to think bigger picture,
Speaker 1: how's this going to play to the mass? And I
Speaker 1: was a little bit worried, right but Day two did
Speaker 1: the most abrupt one eighty in the most perfect sense
Speaker 1: that it could ever have done. Honestly, I maybe I
Speaker 1: need to get more in the back room or something
Speaker 1: and be like, did you tell them to script this?
Speaker 1: What the hell is going on? Because Day two was
Speaker 1: electric and then day three here we talked about it
Speaker 1: on the last episode. These guys do not play small pots.
Speaker 1: They don't want to do that. And the first couple
Speaker 1: hands seemed tame for their standards. Then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: we look over, there's forty million in the pot. There's
Speaker 1: a hand with sixty million in the pot, And it
Speaker 1: was like, here we go between Lori Sascolotti and Lucas Jumalan.
Speaker 1: Jumalan coming out on top winning ten million dollars, Sascolotti
Speaker 1: taking home six million dollars. I gotta say, I know
Speaker 1: Jumalan won the tournament. Sascolotti needs to hold his head high.
Speaker 1: He put on a freaking show. He showed out. He's
Speaker 1: got six million dollars in the bank. Now, I hope
Speaker 1: we see a lot more of this guy too.
Speaker 3: I think that we have some specific hands to get into.
Speaker 3: But I just want to mention, you know, obviously coming
Speaker 3: off of the Miss Rocky year and him given the
Speaker 3: shuffle up and deal, the Miss Rocky final table was
Speaker 3: such a steam roll and ending in seventy nine hands
Speaker 3: that in hindsight, he like want it too fast and
Speaker 3: too quickly for us to really fully digest how incredible
Speaker 3: his run was.
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what happened, no.
Speaker 3: Because it was like every single day was like, oh,
Speaker 3: they played for fifteen minutes, they played for thirty minutes,
Speaker 3: and they played for an hour and it was over
Speaker 3: and Miss Rocky won every hand. So the star power
Speaker 3: that we had last year with Leo Marguetz, Adam Hendrix,
Speaker 3: Kenny Hollard and Michael Miss Rocky was you know, like
Speaker 3: leaps and bounds ahead of this current lineup. But this
Speaker 3: current lineup on days two and three delivered in a
Speaker 3: way that it created attention electricity that really made it unforgettable.
Speaker 3: And that is not something I thought that I would
Speaker 3: say coming into the Final Table. And I think that
Speaker 3: Jumalan in particular really showed up and delivered in the
Speaker 3: way that we were hoping for, not only through his
Speaker 3: play but also through his personality, through sort of the
Speaker 3: soft nature of the way that he spoke the segments
Speaker 3: that were on the broadcast. Shout out to AMA Production,
Speaker 3: Shout out at ESPN for doing what they did. And
Speaker 3: I think this thing was the whole package, and I
Speaker 3: think that it's a Final Table that I won't forget
Speaker 3: very quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a lot of fun. The final day,
Speaker 1: the day three of three for the Final Table itself,
Speaker 1: was a bit hectic being here, so I am excited
Speaker 1: to go watch the full broadcast because we were running
Speaker 1: out to the floor quite a bit. They played sixteen
Speaker 1: or seventeen hands on this final day. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of big ones to get into. And just to set
Speaker 1: the stage for this, first hand that I want to
Speaker 1: hit on was Jumalan comes out of the gate. They
Speaker 1: start play today. It's three hundred and twenty eight million
Speaker 1: for Jumalan, it's two hundred and twenty five million for Sascolotti,
Speaker 1: so about one point five to one right thereabouts, but
Speaker 1: very deep seventy five big lines effective for Sascolotti's stack,
Speaker 1: and right out of the gate, Jumalan starts his building
Speaker 1: and it wasn't really anything big for the first couple hands.
Speaker 1: It was just, you know, a couple million here, a
Speaker 1: couple million there, and he's stretching it out, stretching it out,
Speaker 1: stretching it out. But then hand number one sixty two,
Speaker 1: Sascolotti runs a big bluff with the Queen nine. Jumalan
Speaker 1: picks him off with what was ultimately two pair ace
Speaker 1: ten to seven King Ace. Jumalan had ten to five
Speaker 1: called a big bet on the end, Sascolotti, I mean,
Speaker 1: this is kind of this guy's mo like he's gonna
Speaker 1: swing for the fences. But you know, we saw it
Speaker 1: when he eliminated Greg Muller for example, he can swing
Speaker 1: for the fences when he has a value hand.
Speaker 2: He's he's a.
Speaker 1: Very polar type of player. That's his style, and he
Speaker 1: went for it here. Jumalan was strong to the test
Speaker 1: and ended up picking it off.
Speaker 3: And also let's point out here two Jumalan called almost instantly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was a quick call.
Speaker 2: I mean it was.
Speaker 1: I think it was a bad River card when the
Speaker 1: River pairs like this. Also, you know, it might be
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's it's the prep work
Speaker 1: right right, you probably Jumalan specifically. I don't know about Sascolatti,
Speaker 1: and I'm sure he did his own review maybe heck,
Speaker 1: maybe he didn't.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: But Jumalan, like there was stuff on social media. You
Speaker 1: saw multiple photos. He's working with pads every single night,
Speaker 1: Like even today before the final table. There was a
Speaker 1: photo that I saw and it was today because Jumalan
Speaker 1: was wearing the same thing that he was wearing today
Speaker 1: when he showed up, Like they're in a hotel room somewhere,
Speaker 1: chips around the table, grinding out hands. I talked to
Speaker 1: one of his railbirds afterwards. He said that they went
Speaker 1: through they were going through all the footage every single night,
Speaker 1: a group of them, and then sending them all the notes,
Speaker 1: so handnotes, possible physical tel notes, bet sizing notes, all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff. So Jumalan is just ingesting, ingesting, ingesting,
Speaker 1: So maybe there's something there that he was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, this guy's going to go for it. And
Speaker 1: I would say that personally if I was coming into
Speaker 1: this match and I was Jumalan, I would say, this
Speaker 1: guy's probably gonna go for it early, and I have
Speaker 1: to be prepared to click call. That's just again, that's
Speaker 1: Sascolotti's style, right, and he went for it. Here he
Speaker 1: gets picked off. It's four hundred and eighteen million, then
Speaker 1: for Jumalan, it's one hundred and thirty five million for Sascolatti,
Speaker 1: and we're starting to think, okay, like this might be
Speaker 1: over quicker than we expected. But then we get a
Speaker 1: big all in a few hands later when it's Sascolotti
Speaker 1: has the best of it with the ACE ten versus
Speaker 1: the ACE nine for Jumalan. Sascolotti like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you saw the did you see the broadcast of
Speaker 1: this hand, Yes, I did. When he kind of turned
Speaker 1: to his rail, and I think he said something in
Speaker 1: finish almost like but it.
Speaker 3: Was kind of like two words and I, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to go assume here, but I think
Speaker 3: he said something along the lines of like I think
Speaker 3: this is it, like yeah, you know, like I'm gonna
Speaker 3: call a call, like something along those lines. And I
Speaker 3: think on the broadcast they even refer to it as like,
Speaker 3: you know, he's letting the real know that this is
Speaker 3: gonna this is gonna happen, and uh yeah, I think
Speaker 3: his exact words were I think it's time to double up.
Speaker 3: And then he went for it and this showdown. You know,
Speaker 3: we were standing there, you know, a few feet away
Speaker 3: from the table. We were telling each other like this
Speaker 3: is perfect for TV. The way this this this ran out,
Speaker 3: and you know, shout out to Mories Candani, who's who basically,
Speaker 3: you know, called the turn card, because that's what you do.
Speaker 3: You know, when you're making a TV show and you're
Speaker 3: on the rail, you call for the perfect card, and
Speaker 3: in this case, the nine and diamonds on the Turn
Speaker 3: was the perfect card, giving Jumalan the lead put putting
Speaker 3: him one card away from the wind, but also then
Speaker 3: opening the door to a flush for Sus Suscalati and
Speaker 3: that came in on the river and the the celebration
Speaker 3: of the Finn was reminiscent of when he cracked aces
Speaker 3: last night. Yes, and it sort of showed me that
Speaker 3: sort of spirit that I think was sort of really
Speaker 3: carrying him, and I I had the feeling at that
Speaker 3: point like, oh man, here comes Ascalotta. Now he is
Speaker 3: so fired up, he's gonna do something good. And you
Speaker 3: had in this hand. When that nine hit the turn,
Speaker 3: Jumalan didn't celebrate, but he was up against his rail.
Speaker 3: I think big Red Hayden hedlind With had his arms
Speaker 3: around him. The rail exploded, absolutely freaking exploded. Of course
Speaker 3: they're happy for their guy.
Speaker 1: He's still in the moment, he still knows he's got
Speaker 1: a fade of ten, he's got a fade a queen,
Speaker 1: he's got a fade diamond. And then I think that
Speaker 1: their celebration probably gave a little bit extra for Sasclotti
Speaker 1: to celebrate, because he celebrated kind of two different ways.
Speaker 1: One he did the little kind of gunpoint thing, fist
Speaker 1: pump thing to his rail, but then he turned around
Speaker 1: and did it to them.
Speaker 2: It was like eye content.
Speaker 1: It was like I'm he looked right at them like
Speaker 1: like I'm still here, you know, like I'm still here.
Speaker 1: Don't forget about me, And they were almost dead. Even
Speaker 1: after this, it was Jumalan still had the lead two
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty seven million, but now Sasclotti up to
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty six, and I'm just like, oh shit,
Speaker 1: well you we got a ball game.
Speaker 3: Well, the beauty of this moment was as we're as
Speaker 3: you and I obviously have our badge privileges, so we're
Speaker 3: we're as close to the action as you can get
Speaker 3: without being at the table, which is obviously something that
Speaker 3: I still I still very much understand that it's a
Speaker 3: privilege to be in that position. But one of the
Speaker 3: things that you and I immediately said after this hand
Speaker 3: happened was it won't be long before they play on
Speaker 3: our big pot. Of course, because both of both of
Speaker 3: these guys have a let foot, and that was evident
Speaker 3: by the very next hands, literally the very next hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so hand number one sixty six of the final
Speaker 1: table was that double up that I just went through
Speaker 1: hand number one sixty seven. We get another banger and
Speaker 1: this is this is this hand was awesome. It wasn't
Speaker 1: a big like all in and calm, pre flopped clash
Speaker 1: type of moment. There was multiple streets of betting. I mean,
Speaker 1: you had to wake up the photographers.
Speaker 2: I did.
Speaker 1: It's one of those hands where it's it's playing out
Speaker 1: and you and I are still out there, of course
Speaker 1: because of what happened. And flanking the stage there's two
Speaker 1: giant monitors and you can see what's going on, and
Speaker 1: we can see them putting in big bets and we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a big bet. And at one point I
Speaker 1: was like, I said to you something about the turn
Speaker 1: bet size and you're like, oh, it's an over bet,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, it is an over bet.
Speaker 1: And then that's when I was like, I gotta go
Speaker 1: get them, because this is one of those spots where
Speaker 1: it's quiet and it doesn't have the big loud roars
Speaker 1: and the sweating and all of that, but you can
Speaker 1: maybe you're not looking at the TV screen because you're
Speaker 1: buried in some work or whatever. The hand is. Jumalan raises,
Speaker 1: Min raises the button with Queen five. Queen of Spades
Speaker 1: need to point out, I's got Queen five off. Sasclotti
Speaker 1: calls with jack three of diamonds. It comes Ace King
Speaker 1: four two spades, Ace King of spades. Check from Sasclotti.
Speaker 1: Bet of four million and a call. Turn is the
Speaker 1: Jack of spades. We get a check from Sasclotti. We
Speaker 1: get a bet of forty million, which is two x
Speaker 1: pot on the turn from Jumalan. Not the first time
Speaker 1: he over bet today, not the first time he overbet
Speaker 1: at the final table, but over bet here two xpot.
Speaker 1: Sascalotti takes a bit, calls River is the six of spades,
Speaker 1: so it runs out four spades check. Jumalan takes a
Speaker 1: bit of time, and you and I are kind of
Speaker 1: talking to each other on the side, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna bet, but he wants
Speaker 1: to bet, wants to go for it here.
Speaker 3: And the thing too that I completely misread in hindsight
Speaker 3: seeing the cards was the fact that when Jumalan bet
Speaker 3: one hundred and eighty million, which once again was an
Speaker 3: over bet, my first thought was, Sascalotti is very strong here,
Speaker 3: but he has no spades. That was my read on
Speaker 3: the situation, just because of the way that he was
Speaker 3: tanking and the way that he was sort of trying
Speaker 3: to almost talk himself into making the call because he
Speaker 3: knew that Jumalan would have lots of bluffs there too.
Speaker 3: And then when I saw it on the broadcast, my
Speaker 3: jaw dropped because his hand was so much weaker than
Speaker 3: I anticipated. But Donnie, you you saw the tweet from
Speaker 3: Scott's Sever, the almost Hall of Famer Scott's Sever where
Speaker 3: he basically should be should hall of famer, there will
Speaker 3: be Hall of Famer Scott Sever who put it in
Speaker 3: a in a very clever Scott sever type way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he said, I will just say about he
Speaker 1: said that final hand, but I think he meant that
Speaker 1: final hand that just played out. If the river isn't
Speaker 1: another spade, there's probably a different main event champion, and
Speaker 1: people call it the best call in main event history.
Speaker 1: Funny how poker can work like that. So let's all
Speaker 1: just remember that in this moment, there was one hundred
Speaker 1: million in the pot on the river. Jummelan doesn't say
Speaker 1: all in. He says one hundred and eighty million, okay,
Speaker 1: which if Sosclotti calls, he's left himself with a little
Speaker 1: bit over thirty million left, so not out, but he
Speaker 1: he tanks and tanks and tanks, and at one point
Speaker 1: he said what you said on Twitter, the most finished
Speaker 1: thing that you could say in the moment, which was
Speaker 1: to hero or not to hear it exactly exactly. I mean,
Speaker 1: he Soscallotti has been as cool as a cucumber the
Speaker 1: entire run. This was the moment where he was kind
Speaker 1: of like he was all over in his chair looking
Speaker 1: at Israel, kind of trying to say stuff to Jumalan,
Speaker 1: like it looked like he wanted to call, but it
Speaker 1: also was like you could tell he probably didn't have
Speaker 1: a spade, even if it was like, let's say the
Speaker 1: deuce of spade, just because he wanted to hero. And
Speaker 1: this goes back to the point I was making last
Speaker 1: last episode where he wants to do it in style.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like he he's like if I he's probably thinking,
Speaker 1: if I make this call on, I'm right, And this
Speaker 1: guy's just gets got five six hearts, like I'm a
Speaker 1: freaking genius, Like I'm the greatest player in the universe.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: But the thing too that we can easily overlook is
Speaker 3: the fact that if if anyone in the history of
Speaker 3: of main event has up matches, has it in him
Speaker 3: to bluff that river in that way, it's probably Jumalan,
Speaker 3: like he has shown time and time again.
Speaker 1: Then it was power jam over bet he's got pads
Speaker 1: in his corner. I mean, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: he's waiting to pull out the power jam. At some
Speaker 1: pointlon So Sasclotti eventually calls Jumlan immediately he like he
Speaker 1: like looked at is rail before he was like turning
Speaker 1: his cards over at the same time when he looked
Speaker 1: at his rail and like said something which he did
Speaker 1: often throughout the finals, that where he's like, we got it,
Speaker 1: we got it, like and he tables the nuts and
Speaker 1: his rail goes crazy. That was an incredible moment, right
Speaker 1: because Sasclotti is now left with what was less than
Speaker 1: ten big blinds. He's got eight and a half big linds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so and in that moment, it's like, man, like the
Speaker 1: kid's really gonna do it. You might have thought for
Speaker 1: a second coming off the hand number one sixty six
Speaker 1: when he drills the nine, but then the flush comes
Speaker 1: in for Sasclotti, they're just about even, like I I
Speaker 1: can just imagine how you're feeling. One you get it
Speaker 1: in behind, you're probably feeling like, whatever, Okay, I kind
Speaker 1: of screwed Maybe not that you screwed it up, but
Speaker 1: it's like, really, it's gonna come down because I'm gonna
Speaker 1: double them up, just good hand versus better hand. But
Speaker 1: then you hit that nine and you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're saving me. But then you get you get resucked
Speaker 1: out on it, and you're like, shit, god, damn it.
Speaker 1: So like but listen, he did keep his composure. He
Speaker 1: sat right back down. He was ready to play in
Speaker 1: the next hand. And yeah, it was just it wasn't
Speaker 1: many hands played today, but it was electric.
Speaker 3: You said they played sixteen hands. To me, it felt
Speaker 3: like they played like forty five hands true, like the
Speaker 3: over hands and stuff. You know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, every hand was also intense. A lot was happening.
Speaker 3: And then, of course, uh, the very next hand after
Speaker 3: he lost a big pot, wins one with as King.
Speaker 3: And then we get to the final hand of the
Speaker 3: of the tournament, the final hand of the Worldstairs Pocal
Speaker 3: Main Events, where Juamlong goes all in on the button.
Speaker 3: Suscott makes the call from the big blind. We got
Speaker 3: a seven for the all in player versus King. Six,
Speaker 3: we got suits dominated by Suscalati. We got ace of spades,
Speaker 3: seven of diamonds, and then on the flop right away
Speaker 3: the six hits and the same way we saw in
Speaker 3: the previous all in no reaction from Djumalan, but his
Speaker 3: rail again going absolutely mental, and then the six on
Speaker 3: a turn to seal it and no river card needed, no,
Speaker 3: no river cart necessary, no ever, No one will ever
Speaker 3: remember what that river card was, because I it was.
Speaker 3: It was pandemonium. The four diamonds completed the board. We
Speaker 3: posted a video on the Poke Code Twitter page, also
Speaker 3: on our Instagram channel. Donnie, you were filming Susclotti. I
Speaker 3: was filming Jumalan to have sort of a side by
Speaker 3: side of the emotions of the moment, and it was
Speaker 3: just great to see how uh Susclotti's first thought was
Speaker 3: to go over to Jumalan congratulate him. They they had,
Speaker 3: they had a warm embrace and uh, you know Jimalan,
Speaker 3: of course, you know, full of emotion, tears streaming down
Speaker 3: his face, hugging Israel went over to Jumalan's rail as well,
Speaker 3: sorry to Susclati's rail as well, and shook hands with
Speaker 3: every single person on the rail. On on on his
Speaker 3: opponent's side, which is just a beautiful thing to see.
Speaker 3: And then later we saw uh Suscloti do the same thing,
Speaker 3: went over to Jumalan's dad to congratulate him, and yeah,
Speaker 3: this this just seems like one of those moments where
Speaker 3: these guys are forever linked in life through the shared
Speaker 3: experience of going heads up in the world for his
Speaker 3: book of main event to play for ten million dollars
Speaker 3: and Jumlan ultimately the one who comes out on top.
Speaker 3: Funny little side note, I think it almost broke his
Speaker 3: back as he was celebrated, going to choke him out
Speaker 3: or something. He was standing with his back towards the
Speaker 3: rail and when he won, they basically like pulled him
Speaker 3: towards the rail and by like his neck, his neck
Speaker 3: goes back and then you could see that he was
Speaker 3: visibly suffering. And then as they let go, he turned
Speaker 3: around and he had a giant like red mark on
Speaker 3: his back from the rail imprinted in his back, so
Speaker 3: a little tattoo to remember this moment. But just just
Speaker 3: the emotions, just everything about this moment, this this tournament,
Speaker 3: this event, like this stage, the lights, everything just you know,
Speaker 3: spectacular and yeah, wonderful.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy ending to a really really really
Speaker 1: fun doubissip main event, a fun final table. I know
Speaker 1: it did start slow, but I would much rather have
Speaker 1: it start slow than finish slow. And it finished going
Speaker 1: one hundred and eighty five miles an hour on day
Speaker 1: two of the final table and day three just absolutely
Speaker 1: out of control. I think Jumalan himself is going to
Speaker 1: be quite awesome for the game. I think the kid
Speaker 1: has his head on straight, which you know, I mean
Speaker 1: we were all young, right, I mean we're all old
Speaker 1: and withered now, but we were all twenty two once too, right.
Speaker 1: He seems like he's he's dialed into to do it
Speaker 1: the right way.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean I think he's going to like disappear
Speaker 1: from Poke Ride. I don't think he's going to do
Speaker 1: that at all. You know, I would expect him to
Speaker 1: be out there battling in something I'll say within two
Speaker 1: weeks for sure. Like, I just think he's that type
Speaker 1: of kid the studio is calling, baby, the studio is
Speaker 1: calling I mean masters. Well before that, I mean, isn't
Speaker 1: it kind of a tradition that you go to high
Speaker 1: stakes poker. We have that coming up in August.
Speaker 2: Please, you know, like bred Hanks get on the phone.
Speaker 1: You know, I mean, we gotta, we gotta make it happen.
Speaker 2: I mean, both you and I have talked with Lucas.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can we can hit him up, Like, hey, buddy,
Speaker 1: you know this is the spot so it's only it's
Speaker 1: a hunter came in. You know you can you just
Speaker 1: one ten million?
Speaker 3: I mean come on, that's one hundred thousand might need
Speaker 3: from tax right off anyway, so like you have a
Speaker 3: chance to become friends with with with Andrew Robel probably
Speaker 3: you know that's worth it alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sit at the table, so spin it up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I also don't think he's gonna he
Speaker 1: would ever show up to Hightakes Poker and just like
Speaker 1: laid his money on fire.
Speaker 3: Either, I mean, with with the confidence he has right now,
Speaker 3: he's coming in there to like take all the money.
Speaker 1: I would, for lack of a better term, press my luck.
Speaker 1: Because you're on this high the spotlight is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent on you, yep, like just take everything that comes
Speaker 1: your way. So yes, maybe that that involves taking a
Speaker 1: shot on a show like High Stakes Poker or playing
Speaker 1: some of the upcoming Poker Masters events. That are pretty big,
Speaker 1: super high rollable Triton stops whatever. But you know, strike
Speaker 1: while the iron is hot. You can always reduce your
Speaker 1: variants by selling action. I'm sure everyone left, right and
Speaker 1: center will be wanting to buy some action of the
Speaker 1: w CITB Main Event Champ. And I'm sure there's probably
Speaker 1: some offers out there too to you know, maybe get
Speaker 1: free hotel rooms, travel, rake reductions, whatever it is. Because
Speaker 1: you are the ws BE Main Event Champ, so you know,
Speaker 1: definitely go take advantage of those things if you can.
Speaker 1: And I honestly think that Lucas will. I think he
Speaker 1: We've talked about this already, but I think he wants
Speaker 1: the spotlight, so I'm happy to see that. And afterwards,
Speaker 1: it took a while, but I finally did get to
Speaker 1: talk to him, So we'll play that interview for you now.
Speaker 1: As expected, it's always hard right afterwards. I guess I
Speaker 1: just kind of want to tee this up because it
Speaker 1: does sound like he's at a loss of words or
Speaker 1: lack of words, which is understandable because when you're in
Speaker 1: such a big moment like this, on one side of things,
Speaker 1: it probably hasn't fully sunk in. I get it. On
Speaker 1: the other side of things, when you are rushing in
Speaker 1: a poker tournament and then all of a sudden that
Speaker 1: poker tournament is over. Oh yeah, you get an adrenaline
Speaker 1: dump like you have probably never experienced ever in your life.
Speaker 1: And it's like, honestly, it's like a come down from
Speaker 1: being on fucking Molly, is what it's like. Okay, And
Speaker 1: if you ever experienced that, you know exactly what I'm
Speaker 1: talking about. And you can't really formulate words and sentences
Speaker 1: and talk correctly. It's just that that's just how it is,
Speaker 1: because it just all dumps from your body because your
Speaker 1: body finally recognizes that it's over. Job's finished. So anyway,
Speaker 1: Lucas Jumalan here he is the w SP main event champ.
Speaker 1: All right, Lucas, it's the moments after. I mean, just
Speaker 1: just talk to me about what this means to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it just it means so much.
Speaker 5: And I really don't have don't have many words for you,
Speaker 5: because like I don't think it's like really set in yet,
Speaker 5: and it might not for a couple of days.
Speaker 4: But I'm just so thankful and so blessed.
Speaker 1: And I heard you were a guy who's big on
Speaker 1: visualized visualization. Is this what you visualize happening?
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, like I told somebody on day one, I
Speaker 5: had five thousand chips at a five hundred big blind,
Speaker 5: so like ten bigs. I was like, I just like
Speaker 5: had this calmness and like like feeling that it's gonna
Speaker 5: be okay. Like and there was a couple of points
Speaker 5: in the tournament where like you know, under ten bigs,
Speaker 5: right at ten bigs, uh, you know, I just never
Speaker 5: gave up and just was there was like this feeling
Speaker 5: of peace and calmness, and and I think it's I
Speaker 5: think the visualization certainly is part of that.
Speaker 1: How are you able to stay so peaceful, so calm
Speaker 1: even though you're on your way to winning the main
Speaker 1: event of winning ten million dollars?
Speaker 5: You know, I see so many people like freak out
Speaker 5: and u and kind of blow up in these spots,
Speaker 5: But like I think I've always been I've just always
Speaker 5: been like this sounds a little bit cocky, but I'm
Speaker 5: not trying to come.
Speaker 1: Off like that.
Speaker 5: But it's always been like a little bit different. And
Speaker 5: I haven't felt the pressure, you know, Like I didn't
Speaker 5: feel the pressure like even heads up, like I slept
Speaker 5: pretty good, like like all the days, like you know,
Speaker 5: like I just I don't know. I can't really explain.
Speaker 1: It to you. Not even an ounce of pressure when
Speaker 1: he doubled up and then.
Speaker 5: Oh no, I mean you saw me sit right back down.
Speaker 5: I was ready to go back to work, like like
Speaker 5: there it was. It was nothing. It was nothing but
Speaker 5: a thing.
Speaker 4: And you know, like we're just ready to go back
Speaker 4: to work.
Speaker 1: So do you feel like that's how you've approached your
Speaker 1: whole career or is that something that was more unlocked
Speaker 1: during this run?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: I mean it was something I learned over, like over
Speaker 5: the years and over the over the hardships and like
Speaker 5: over the struggles through tournament poker. You know, like you're
Speaker 5: just never you're never out of a tournament, and you
Speaker 5: gotta realize that you gotta value those chips, like like
Speaker 5: if you have life, you have life.
Speaker 4: And you can win the tournament.
Speaker 1: So talk to me about the support system, your family,
Speaker 1: your friends just here with you the whole way.
Speaker 4: What does that mean? I haven't had an answer for
Speaker 4: anybody on this question. I just like it.
Speaker 5: I'm just so blessed and so thankful to have everybody
Speaker 5: around and you know, I can't can't wait to take
Speaker 5: them out to a nice dinner and and have some fun.
Speaker 1: Being on this side of things. It seemed it felt
Speaker 1: refreshing to hear you constantly talk about how you want
Speaker 1: everything that comes with winning the main event. You know,
Speaker 1: you're ready to go on and not really end your
Speaker 1: story here, but start your story here. Like what does
Speaker 1: that will mean?
Speaker 4: The carrying the torch aspect.
Speaker 1: Of it all?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think this is so important.
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, like I really am ready to be
Speaker 5: like ambassador of the game, and you know, like give
Speaker 5: give some of the young kids hope that they can
Speaker 5: that they can come do this.
Speaker 4: I mean, like it's it's possible.
Speaker 5: With enough work and you gotta you gotta get a
Speaker 5: little bit battle tested, but you know it's possible.
Speaker 4: Like you really can't do anything this game.
Speaker 5: This game brings you so much, Like I'm so thankful
Speaker 5: for this game, so I would love to give back.
Speaker 1: When are we going to see you next?
Speaker 5: I haven't decided that yet, but it might not be
Speaker 5: as long as you guys might be thinking.
Speaker 1: So we'll see you, heard Lucas there he said, I'm
Speaker 1: going to be seeing you guys soon. Oh, like he's
Speaker 1: the kids ready. Honestly, if there was a dov SP tournaments,
Speaker 1: while he'd probably be in the damn thing.
Speaker 3: I think that him winning this isn't as much of
Speaker 3: a factor in.
Speaker 2: The way that I think this guy's alive.
Speaker 3: Like, I think that if he hadn't won the main
Speaker 3: and finished like third, fourth or fourth or fifth, he
Speaker 3: would have still been a lifer. Just his his energy,
Speaker 3: his attitude, his willingness, and his eagerness to be an
Speaker 3: ambassador of the game just shows to me that we're
Speaker 3: dealing with the with the special guy, and I think
Speaker 3: the poker can only be grateful when those characters roll around.
Speaker 3: And I just also want to emphasize the fact that
Speaker 3: when you win the main event, you don't have to
Speaker 3: be an ambassador. You don't have to, you know, preach,
Speaker 3: preach the good, good word of poker. But if you do,
Speaker 3: you know, more power to you because it is something
Speaker 3: that definitely benefits the game of poker. And Jumlan, you know,
Speaker 3: his has has the right personality and the right mentality.
Speaker 3: And yeah, speaking speaking of hearing and seeing him soon,
Speaker 3: he pressed me to be on the Faias podcast, so
Speaker 3: I told him we'll make it happen, we'll have you on.
Speaker 3: But now, of course we have got to have him
Speaker 3: on as soon as possible, and I can't wait to hear.
Speaker 3: I can't wait to hear the story from the moment
Speaker 3: that the broadcast ended until he hit his pillow tonight,
Speaker 3: and I think that's gonna be a pretty epic one.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited coming out of it to see where
Speaker 1: the kid goes. You know, I think we've seen some
Speaker 1: champions in past years where we've kind of known what's
Speaker 1: to come, Like I think with Dan Weinman, for example.
Speaker 1: You know, he was kind of already one foot out
Speaker 1: of poker anyway, so him winning allowed him to be
Speaker 1: a little bit way more out of poker, and now
Speaker 1: he only pops out here play the main couple other events,
Speaker 1: and that's that. Michael Mroky, you know, he's going to
Speaker 1: kind of always be around poker, you know. So I
Speaker 1: feel like we kind of know his story and the
Speaker 1: next chapters in it. Not to take anything away from
Speaker 1: those guys, I'm just you know, I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: I kind of knew where those stories would be headed.
Speaker 1: Where I don't know where Lucas Jumalan's story is going.
Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a story that has
Speaker 1: continued to fulfill poker and he's gonna be in the game,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be around, he's gonna be pla. I'm just
Speaker 1: excited to see that all play out right, And he's
Speaker 1: so young, he's got such a long career ahead of him,
Speaker 1: and now he's got freaking ten million dollars in the bank.
Speaker 1: And then overall, I think, really awesome finish to a
Speaker 1: really awesome events. I agree, I think it was. It
Speaker 1: was perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, credit to everyone involves, you know, from from like this,
Speaker 3: the stage builder's production crew, you know pokon News Live
Speaker 3: reporting for always keeping us dialed, the stories we read
Speaker 3: on you know, poker dot org. The amazing photography, once again,
Speaker 3: shouted Luther. Shoutout Antonio Charada, Enrique. I think that between
Speaker 3: everyone that shows up every single day for this event,
Speaker 3: I know that you know, we're collecting paychecks, but we're
Speaker 3: also here because we're passionate about the game. And you
Speaker 3: don't you don't you know, you don't work in this
Speaker 3: industry if you don't care about it, because it takes
Speaker 3: a special kind of person to to buy into the
Speaker 3: magic of what this is and what it represents for us.
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you know, we're
Speaker 3: we're talking about a silly card game, but there's so
Speaker 3: much more to it and it generates so much more
Speaker 3: in emotion with people that I feel forever fortunate that
Speaker 3: this is, you know, part of my life. And yeah,
Speaker 3: this was a good one.
Speaker 1: I know we have to be done with this for
Speaker 1: a while. But whenever these things end, and whenever the
Speaker 1: WSP Main Event comes to an end, and it's it's
Speaker 1: a bit more heightened given how epic the finish to
Speaker 1: this tournament was. I'm always just ready to start the
Speaker 1: next one because I want to see what the next
Speaker 1: year brings and if the momentum coming off of this
Speaker 1: right now can continue into next year. You know, we're
Speaker 1: going to have to wait eleven months or whatever it
Speaker 1: is for that to happen again. But I do hope that,
Speaker 1: you know, we can catch some of the lightning in
Speaker 1: a bottle that I think we caught with this WSP
Speaker 1: Main Event and we can just continue on through you know,
Speaker 1: the w he is back on ESPN, and ultimately we'll
Speaker 1: see where that heads. I guess it'll be a little
Speaker 1: bit worrisome if it doesn't get the legs that I'm
Speaker 1: hoping that it will, just because this was like, you
Speaker 1: could not have put out a better product, a better
Speaker 1: from an entertainment standpoint, that was seen. But end of
Speaker 1: the day, I think poker's healthy. I don't think poker's
Speaker 1: going anywhere. I think Lucas Jumlan is going to do
Speaker 1: a great job carrying the torch, you know, being that
Speaker 1: poker ambassador. Again, I've said it before, I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: I think the kid wants to smoke in that regard,
Speaker 1: So we'll see what he brings to the table. Whether
Speaker 1: or not he runs good or bad. I don't think
Speaker 1: it really matters, because when you win ten million dollars,
Speaker 1: you have enough money to just keep showing up every
Speaker 1: single day. And that's what I expect out of him,
Speaker 1: is to keep showing up and we'll see where it
Speaker 1: goes from here. But as I said, open invite on
Speaker 1: High Stakes Poker, buddy, let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do we have coming up? When can we
Speaker 2: get back into studio?
Speaker 1: Pretty soon? At least I hope so pretty soon during
Speaker 1: August we'll be filming and live streaming the next season
Speaker 1: of High Stakes Poker. Then September rolls around. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be getting into the PGT coming back with pgg PLO series.
Speaker 1: We got Super High Roller will PLO we have Super
Speaker 1: High Roller Bowl. I mean, heck, maybe we'll see Lucas
Speaker 1: in those two tournaments. I don't know, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe we'll see Lori Sasclotti in the PLoud Supermasters.
Speaker 3: Like Elis is working the phones right now, like he's like,
Speaker 3: you know, come to.
Speaker 2: My boat and we'll all go to Vegas.
Speaker 1: Let's go. So that's what's coming up for us. As always,
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure. It's been I know you talked
Speaker 1: about how yesa, this is our job, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, I agree with you. You know, we
Speaker 1: are first and foremost just poker fans, you know, and
Speaker 1: and that's why we're doing this. So thanks for rocking
Speaker 1: with us all summer long. Thanks for rocking with us
Speaker 1: for these past few days. Don't forget to check out
Speaker 1: this guy remco ringking his new podcast or return to
Speaker 1: the podcast streets Face.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get Lucas back on. He has expressed, Aso
Speaker 1: said that he wants to be on the show, So
Speaker 1: let's make it happen, and there's plenty of other good
Speaker 1: guests on the way. I got nothing else.
Speaker 3: I just want to say that people should, like, you know,
Speaker 3: do do the whole thing like and subscribe and make
Speaker 3: sure that they giving us, like your people here, give
Speaker 3: us reasons to continue the pod. You know, I've I've
Speaker 3: been I've been away from the pod scene for a while,
Speaker 3: but I definitely can say that the last few days
Speaker 3: being on the mic has been super fun. And yeah,
Speaker 3: I think there's there's definitely something there that I've I've
Speaker 3: joked for a very long time. You know, every everyone
Speaker 3: now has a podcast. But if if people at home
Speaker 3: feel like we we offer something more than just being
Speaker 3: one of the many options out there, then you know,
Speaker 3: we'd love to continue on a more regular basis. Face
Speaker 3: these is going to be there every week. That's the goal.
Speaker 3: And you know, I'll say it right here, just the
Speaker 3: corner corner myself and corner Lucas Jumalan. We'll have Jumalan
Speaker 3: on the show on Monday.
Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, Let's go. Congratulations to a Lucas Jumalan
Speaker 1: winner the twenty twenty six w Sepine Main Event taken
Speaker 1: home ten million dollars first place from a field of
Speaker 1: nine thousand, two hundred and eight entries, Lori Sascolatti second,
Speaker 1: and then Greg Mueller, Michael Gagliano, Hanfang, Rami Hamoud who
Speaker 1: Rami Hamud, by the way, showed up on the rail
Speaker 1: at the end to congratulate the players on their success,
Speaker 1: So shout out to him. Jamie Chavell, Mario bos and
Speaker 1: Iva Goros Iva Goru out of Cypress rounding out the
Speaker 1: final table. Great final table.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: If you guys missed it, go watch that damn thing.
Speaker 1: Until next time. He is Remkarankima. I am a Donni
Speaker 1: Peters and we will talk to you guys soon.
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