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Speaker 1: love him. He is the definitive commissioner of Fantasy Football.
Speaker 1: Welcome in, Farrell, Elliott, Farrell, how we doing.
Speaker 2: I am so glad to be known and loved Balky.
Speaker 2: That's really great and I love it when we get
Speaker 2: to announce that terb will be joining us to and
Speaker 2: how many times champion that he's ever been. And you know,
Speaker 2: sadly those accolades do not follow my name, So tip
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Speaker 1: Tip of the cap to one Dave Tripoli. Without further ado,
Speaker 1: the fourteenth time champ as introduced by Parrell Elliott. Dave
Speaker 1: missed you last time tonight, Man, I missed you.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 2: It vibes only. I do not believe that that shirt
Speaker 2: is accurate in the words of wisdom that we will
Speaker 2: hear streaming from your mouth tonight. But I've got to
Speaker 2: tell you, we'll see. If there is anyone who should
Speaker 2: be positive, is Dave Tripoli and the lovely family should
Speaker 2: I enjoy following on Facebook much? You know?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 2: The great surprise last year, Balky at the live event
Speaker 2: uh in Las Vegas, is that we met Pop's turp
Speaker 2: and that was him before.
Speaker 4: But I think it's the first time you got a
Speaker 4: chance to be.
Speaker 2: Oh it was. It was the first time for me.
Speaker 2: And you know, Pops and I had a moment over
Speaker 2: by the bar and I said, you know, Pop's all
Speaker 2: the mischievous actions and the Terp has been responsible for
Speaker 2: it has largely been brought on by the bad influences
Speaker 2: that he's been known to affiliate and hang out with.
Speaker 2: And maybe Pop said, yeah, that's what the whole family says.
Speaker 2: And I said, well, okay, I want to be considered
Speaker 2: as part of the family. So I was chiming in
Speaker 2: right there, and then I realized that this week we
Speaker 2: might be that bad influence Balky, You and I might
Speaker 2: be the one.
Speaker 4: Anything's possible in pros versus Joe's it is.
Speaker 2: It was very spirited last night.
Speaker 4: I watched it a little bit, and you guys had
Speaker 4: a good show. You had a lot of great guests.
Speaker 4: The draft didn't go to haywire. I'm ready to go tonight.
Speaker 2: Man didn't go quick. Balkey couldn't keep up Man.
Speaker 5: It was wild.
Speaker 4: Nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2: It was wild.
Speaker 1: It went, It went fast and furious. I am. I
Speaker 1: am in contact right now with with one uh Bryce Masters,
Speaker 1: Commissioner to the Stars, who was commissioning this draft tonight.
Speaker 1: We are missing Team one, which is Zachary Wrenz and
Speaker 1: Gerard Wrens that that and them. We're we're trying to
Speaker 1: get him and we're gonna give him a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: If not, he's gonna be an auto.
Speaker 2: Always, which will be a good Who would you give
Speaker 2: Team one?
Speaker 4: Who would I give him to myself? It'll be more fun.
Speaker 2: Just give him who what player would you put on
Speaker 2: a rosters? They don't show up, Let's.
Speaker 4: Put some more Chase there said he's gonna take him.
Speaker 2: Any Chase anyway, just think of somebody else.
Speaker 1: M hm, you know, all right, stud So here so
Speaker 1: you guys pontificate, you guys pontificate over that we're gonna
Speaker 1: be getting going in less than two minutes.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: I want to remind everybody that this is a twenty
Speaker 1: round best ball league. You're it's not a tournament. This
Speaker 1: is you're going against eleven other owners. The winner will
Speaker 1: get a twenty twenty six f FPC main eventry valued
Speaker 1: at well over two thousand dollars to try to win
Speaker 1: a million bucks next year. And second place we'll get
Speaker 1: a pair of socks courtesy of Farrell Elliott, which.
Speaker 2: Was on the game A beautiful, so beautiful.
Speaker 1: So here is tonight's lineup. We're gonna get going here
Speaker 1: in a little bit. Zachary and grud Wrenz. The Joes
Speaker 1: are drafting at one. Blair Andrews from Rodoviz is gonna
Speaker 1: be drafting second tonight. Joe Van Goh, longtime FFPC player
Speaker 1: Ben on plenty of my shows before, He's gonna be
Speaker 1: a tough, tough out tonight he is drafting third, the
Speaker 1: tight end whisperer of Farrell Andrew Cooper from Fantasy Alarm
Speaker 1: is hitting clean up tonight. Greg link Well, I believe
Speaker 1: we'll have on here shortly. He's drafting fifth. Connor Allen
Speaker 1: from four to four is in the sixth hole. Kyle
Speaker 1: Hoff and Ryan Heller, the FFPC joke tandem, is drafting
Speaker 1: out of the seventh spot. Brian Drake and Matt Donnelly.
Speaker 1: Interesting photos of those guys tonight in preparation.
Speaker 4: Real good ones out there on X.
Speaker 1: Check it out at Drake Fantasy Matt Donnelly FF from
Speaker 1: Fantasy Points. They finished I believe, top fifteen last year
Speaker 1: and they are drafting under the eighth SOT Bob Buono
Speaker 1: is ninth ninth tonight. The King Scott Engel from Rotoballer
Speaker 1: is drafting tenth. Rob Tomasino, who farall you and I
Speaker 1: believe are going to be talking with this Friday on
Speaker 1: the High Stakes Fantasy Football Hour. He is drafting eleventh tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll hear from him tonight, and of course the swol
Speaker 1: cast guy himself, Davis Maddock, will be drafting twelfth tonight.
Speaker 1: We are going to get underway here shortly. I want
Speaker 1: to bring up here our first guest of the night
Speaker 1: right away, because I know he's got a fly. You
Speaker 1: follow him on X at Coupe Fiasco. This guy what
Speaker 1: a year he had last year, Parroll. Not only did
Speaker 1: he crush it during pros Versus Joe's last year with
Speaker 1: his expert analysis, but this dude cleared up as the
Speaker 1: f s w A Writer of the Year. He's the
Speaker 1: lead NFL analyst or fantasy Alarm host on Serious Sex
Speaker 1: Fantasy Sports Radio at Koupe Fiasco on AX, Please welcome in,
Speaker 1: mister Andrew Cooper Coop. What's going on?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 2: What's happening? Dude?
Speaker 7: So I didn't realize these uh these the prizes here.
Speaker 7: I was gonna shoot for first, but I want those
Speaker 7: socks now.
Speaker 8: Now I'm gonna have to change read the needle, goog.
Speaker 2: Will you be coming to the live event ed Parris?
Speaker 2: When is it? Well, that's really wrong.
Speaker 8: I'm not gonna be able to make it.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 9: My daughter to my daughter two at the end of
Speaker 9: the two at the end of the month. So that's
Speaker 9: that's a tough swing for congratulations. I think we're gonna
Speaker 9: I think maybe we can we can swing it as
Speaker 9: a family trip when she's at the age where we're big.
Speaker 8: Flights like that are possible.
Speaker 2: I love that's been talking about his arrival, you know
Speaker 2: about having the child. That's what keeps him out of Kentucky. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know every year that child apparently is reborn. You know,
Speaker 2: she's like every year, but.
Speaker 4: Wife wants ten kids every year having No it's crazy
Speaker 4: good to Vegas, but I can't go to Kentucky.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Coop is on the clock right now. Guys chase Bowers,
Speaker 1: Barkley where the first three picks? Coop no chance at
Speaker 1: Bowers here. McBride's still out there. Although it would be
Speaker 1: a leap you go with b John Robinson, I guess
Speaker 1: not a surprise. Did you think that he was going
Speaker 1: to be a possibility for you at four tonight?
Speaker 7: So here's the thing with Bowers. I typically don't go
Speaker 7: for the high end tight ends. I've talked about this
Speaker 7: with Turp. We both have similar strategies. That's what I like.
Speaker 7: That's why I like when I'm drafting. I like him
Speaker 7: to be there talking and not part of the actual
Speaker 7: draft with me. So I like you right where you
Speaker 7: are at Turp, right there where you're not love it. Obviously,
Speaker 7: he could be the number one player in any sort
Speaker 7: of tight end premium format, I just because of I'm
Speaker 7: contractually obligated to kind of work on and track the
Speaker 7: tight end position all year long. It's a place where
Speaker 7: I feel I can generate value late, and we know
Speaker 7: that in regular formats, at least, not even counting the
Speaker 7: tight end premium, we've had guys come from outside the
Speaker 7: top seventeen to ADP to finish top five in thirteen
Speaker 7: straight years. I'm talking Evan Ingram a couple times, Darren Waller,
Speaker 7: Robert Tunyan, you go all the way back to like
Speaker 7: Julius Thomas, all these guys Like it's a position that
Speaker 7: you can create leverage at. So I don't want to
Speaker 7: give away all my tricks here. But for me, I
Speaker 7: feel like if I load up on the other positions
Speaker 7: and then and then pick the right kind of sleeper
Speaker 7: guys late, load up maybe with it with some extra
Speaker 7: tight ends because it's a twenty round draft, I can
Speaker 7: create some leverage that way and kind of backdoor my
Speaker 7: way to eliteness at that position. So usually I don't
Speaker 7: take guys there, I will. I mean, obviously, if Trey
Speaker 7: McBride somehow miraculously comes back, I would have to take him.
Speaker 7: But yeah, that's kind of been my way.
Speaker 1: It's a Trey McBride would be the huge yin to
Speaker 1: the Yin Yang, and the Yang would obviously be a
Speaker 1: smaller one. Coop, I gotta tell you we said this
Speaker 1: last year too. With all your success, Fantasy Alarm has
Speaker 1: sort of been like the pipeline for a tight end.
Speaker 1: Whispers it used to be Howard Bender and then he
Speaker 1: willingly passed that moniker off to you as well. I
Speaker 1: know people tune in for your pro Versus Joe's draft
Speaker 1: annually just to find out what mid round tight ends
Speaker 1: you're selecting in this because you know you have to
Speaker 1: win first or second to win anything in this And
Speaker 1: clearly everybody's me paying attention to see what happens after
Speaker 1: you have your running backs, receivers and quarterbacks in the road,
Speaker 1: to see what you're gonna doing in the mid rounds
Speaker 1: with tight end. Are you going to try to throw
Speaker 1: anybody off tonight? Or are the tight ends you're drafting
Speaker 1: you truly believe it?
Speaker 8: Well, the thing is, I stay plugged into the value.
Speaker 8: I will take value where it is.
Speaker 7: So with my Yuni Yang tight end rankings, there's always
Speaker 7: a section I call the standalone tier.
Speaker 8: These are the guys, you know, the top few guys
Speaker 8: where in a.
Speaker 7: Typical league, not a like a typical redraft, you draft
Speaker 7: one and you're done. If you take Bowers, you're only
Speaker 7: worried about Bie Weeks. So I will keep my eye
Speaker 7: on those guys. There's definitely guys that play well into
Speaker 7: this tight end premium format where people keep in mind
Speaker 7: the premium is only for the receptions, not the yards,
Speaker 7: not the touchdowns. I think that's a big that's one
Speaker 7: of the biggest advantages you can get over casual gamers.
Speaker 7: And again in pros versus Joe's I've done enough of
Speaker 7: these to know it should just be pros versus pros.
Speaker 7: The people that follow the watch these shows, that hang
Speaker 7: out in the chat, these are very very good fantasy gamers.
Speaker 7: There's no there's no bad gamers in this. But that's
Speaker 7: the one place people get tricked up with the tight
Speaker 7: end premium is is they just think all tight ends
Speaker 7: equally get raised. But the guys that make their their
Speaker 7: bones on touchdowns or on yards not exactly getting the benefit.
Speaker 7: I'll give you one example from last year, a guy
Speaker 7: like Tucker Craft, right like Tucker Craft had two sixty
Speaker 7: yard plays that accounted for like eighteen percent of his yards.
Speaker 7: He had a bunch of touchdowns, which was great, but
Speaker 7: he only got seventy targets on the season. That's four
Speaker 7: point one targets per game. That player last year at
Speaker 7: least didn't benefit as much from the tight end premium
Speaker 7: as these guys like you know in Djoku who had
Speaker 7: ninety seven targets in eleven games, or bally McBride and
Speaker 7: Bowers that are given one hundred.
Speaker 8: And forty hundred and fifty. So make sure you check
Speaker 8: the rules and you see where you're getting the bus.
Speaker 1: Uh coop when you I know you like to take
Speaker 1: value where it comes in these drafts. Once you knew
Speaker 1: you had the four pick, do you have an idea
Speaker 1: sort of like in your mind about a few players
Speaker 1: at the one you know your as your first round pick,
Speaker 1: a few players that you think you're going to be
Speaker 1: picking up the second And then conversely, if you didn't,
Speaker 1: did you at least have sort of like a format
Speaker 1: in your mind of like proper roster construction on like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I sort of want to end with this. I want
Speaker 1: to end with this or do you just really play
Speaker 1: everything by year once you get on the clock.
Speaker 7: So I you know, when I do these ones, there's
Speaker 7: actually I do have a roster construction in mind where
Speaker 7: I want to end up, Like, I know I'm going
Speaker 7: to get there one way or another. When you go
Speaker 7: out to twenty rounds, which I prefer, I like, I
Speaker 7: like best, I almost always end up with three qbs
Speaker 7: and three tight ends at the very least, just because
Speaker 7: you have that leverage, you have the extra rounds to
Speaker 7: make it there. So I do kind of think that
Speaker 7: way when I'm going in. I did load up my
Speaker 7: cue with four players I liked. It was the Jamar
Speaker 7: Chase and three running backs. In this keep in mind
Speaker 7: again it's two running backs, two wide receivers, two flexes,
Speaker 7: so you can be a lot more flexible and it
Speaker 7: doesn't fear pressure you into drafting wide receivers like some
Speaker 7: of the other platforms.
Speaker 8: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like, you can.
Speaker 8: Truly go with a more best available approach.
Speaker 7: For me, the player right now is my best available
Speaker 7: player in pretty much all formats.
Speaker 8: So I'm gonna go ahead and take Drake London.
Speaker 1: Yet, Drake London is Coop's second round pick, and so
Speaker 1: you go Falcon, Falcon and Obviously, anybody watching this, the
Speaker 1: first question is going to be are you worried about
Speaker 1: having too many eggs in the Atlanta basket? And you
Speaker 1: clearly answer with the resounding no, I'm not worried.
Speaker 2: Not worried about it.
Speaker 7: And again, with these highly consolidated teams, I'm just looking
Speaker 7: for the best players and the best situations. I mean,
Speaker 7: we've seen plenty of times where you know, great running
Speaker 7: backs and great wide receivers on the same teams crush.
Speaker 7: I mean, guys, last year, if you went out and
Speaker 7: took Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase t Higgins, Chase Brown, you.
Speaker 8: Had no problems at all.
Speaker 7: If you went back and you took you know, any
Speaker 7: of the times that you know, even like Tom Brady
Speaker 7: and Legarrett Blunt and Julian Edelman and those guys, if
Speaker 7: you took I mean, I've had kids.
Speaker 8: One year, take Drew Brees and Michael.
Speaker 7: Thomas and and and Alvin Kamar and he mopped us,
Speaker 7: he mopped the floor. You don't think you lost a
Speaker 7: single game. So if you if you get the right
Speaker 7: guys in the right situations, you'll be all right. I'm
Speaker 7: not necessarily going crazy, but I just think these are
Speaker 7: the two best players on the team, uh, and then
Speaker 7: they're going to be just fine.
Speaker 8: So for me, I have no problem there. With some
Speaker 8: of these other teams.
Speaker 7: Though, like if you got a team that's not highly consolidated,
Speaker 7: like the the Packers for instance, that's where I get
Speaker 7: scared to have multiple players, especially you know, when you're
Speaker 7: picking one guy from the run game, one guy from
Speaker 7: the past game. But for these two players, I just
Speaker 7: think they're stars, and I'm just hoping that the stars align.
Speaker 1: You just mentioned the Bengals. T Higgins is your pick
Speaker 1: here at the three h four. I know you gotta fly.
Speaker 1: I want to give you one opportunity here for anybody
Speaker 1: who is interested in consuming more Andrew Cooper content. Where
Speaker 1: can they read it? Where can they listen to you?
Speaker 2: Absolutely?
Speaker 7: I mean I'll be jumping back on here with Terp
Speaker 7: and Aiden to do another recap of a draft at
Speaker 7: some point this summer, hopefully, so I'll be popping on
Speaker 7: these airwaves. You can catch me on Series XM all
Speaker 7: week this week with Howard bender Out. I'm always on
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Speaker 8: Yang tight End.
Speaker 7: I know you've checked out those articles ten thousand words
Speaker 7: a couple of them, but I'll tell you what. I
Speaker 7: put enough gifts and silly stuff in there that you
Speaker 7: know it'll keep you. There's charts, there's pictures, there's there's clips,
Speaker 7: there's there's enough to keep you entertained. And I'll tell you,
Speaker 7: no matter what with you read it, you whether you
Speaker 7: take my advice or not, there's enough information in it
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Speaker 8: So that's available at Fantasy Alarm.
Speaker 1: Dock On Connect with the twenty twenty four FSWA Writer
Speaker 1: of the Year Andrew Cooper at Kupe Fiasco on a coop.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much.
Speaker 1: We'll continue to read, we will continue to listen. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much, and good luck for the rest of the way. Man.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me. I'll be tuning in. Gonna be
Speaker 7: a good draft, good show, guys.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Good stuff from him, Andrew Cooper Hopping aboard here, I
Speaker 1: want to get to our next guest here in a
Speaker 1: little bit before we do Turt. What do you make
Speaker 1: of Justin Jefferson at the one o seven tonight falls
Speaker 1: to the one oh seven. I know that was the
Speaker 1: scuttle button. The chat people were talking about what a
Speaker 1: gift that was. But Kyle Hoff and Ryan Heller they
Speaker 1: fell into something there.
Speaker 4: Man extremely extremely grateful. I mean they used to be
Speaker 4: really really happy that Jefferson fell that far. He doesn't
Speaker 4: fall that far.
Speaker 2: Ever.
Speaker 4: It's a rare occasion where you see guys like Ceedee Lamb,
Speaker 4: you know, Bowers getting as high as he did, and
Speaker 4: obviously Jamiir Gibbs, Thegether three are pretty much you know,
Speaker 4: Barkley's been falling a little bit, but Jefferson is seven
Speaker 4: is a gift, and then getting Brian Thomas in the
Speaker 4: next round is an awesome start.
Speaker 1: Uh Farrell the auto drafter at the one spot not
Speaker 1: a bad squad. This is oftentimes what I hear when
Speaker 1: I'm commission Big Gorilla drafts or main events or FFPC drafts.
Speaker 1: People are upset that there's an auto drafter and then
Speaker 1: they you know, halfway through, like man, that auto drafter
Speaker 1: put together quite a team. And I always bring this
Speaker 1: up too, and I can't remember who it was because
Speaker 1: it happened a few years ago. But there was a
Speaker 1: gentleman I was commissioning it on one of our midstakes
Speaker 1: drafts for the big six figure grand prize at the time.
Speaker 1: Now it's a million dollars. He had a son who
Speaker 1: was being unruly at bedtime, had a lot of problems
Speaker 1: trying to get to go to sleep. His whole team
Speaker 1: was auto drafted, and that dude. Now he finished in
Speaker 1: like the top seventy overall, but going into the final
Speaker 1: week of the championship round, he was in like fifteenth
Speaker 1: overall on an auto drafted team. So these auto drafted
Speaker 1: teams Pharaoh, They oftentimes come together and team won. Chase Jacobs,
Speaker 1: Kien Williams not a bad start man.
Speaker 2: Well, you know, maybe they'll wake up. Are they drafting
Speaker 2: from a queue or these truly auto drafts?
Speaker 1: As far as I know, these are truly auto drafts.
Speaker 1: I don't believe there was a Q sevey looked like
Speaker 1: auto draft. All things considered, These guys didn't get the email.
Speaker 1: Inter It's really interesting what you talked about. We felt
Speaker 1: the same way about the seven and eight spot last night.
Speaker 1: We felt the players were dropping there. There there's maybe
Speaker 1: so many great first round candidates that you can say,
Speaker 1: any of those guys in the seventh and eight spot
Speaker 1: are great picks.
Speaker 4: So you know, I agree those seventh and eighth have
Speaker 4: a great start so far, no no issues whatsoever.
Speaker 1: That's different guys, different guys. Yeah, maybe it's just the
Speaker 1: it's the right spot for it. You never know. We
Speaker 1: want to get to our next guest, Ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1: He is the f FPC Joe drafting out of the
Speaker 1: eleven spot tonight. You will be able to watch him
Speaker 1: live this Friday when he joins Sperrel and I to
Speaker 1: recap his draft and take a look forward to the
Speaker 1: f FPC main event as well. Please welcome onto the program,
Speaker 1: mister Rob Thomasino. Rob, welcome in man, So good to
Speaker 1: have you aboard. How do you like your draft so far?
Speaker 5: Not bad? I just really trying to draft a value.
Speaker 5: I will say that this is the first.
Speaker 10: You're not gonna believe this, but this is my first
Speaker 10: best ball draft that I've ever done.
Speaker 4: Wow, really ever.
Speaker 5: Ever.
Speaker 10: I'm a traditional Joe, I'm an f FPC main event guy,
Speaker 10: and I've never.
Speaker 5: Done the best ball draft until right now.
Speaker 1: Rob.
Speaker 2: You would have thank you would have founded up from
Speaker 2: one just by accident you know you were doing You
Speaker 2: ended there just I didn't mean to be here when
Speaker 2: I'm here, so you know, no accident. Congratulations on a
Speaker 2: great career, man, You're doing great.
Speaker 10: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm really happy to be here and very appreciative.
Speaker 1: Rob. Let's let's talk about the draft here. Nikola was
Speaker 1: your first choice in the first round. Now, you could
Speaker 1: have grabbed McCaffrey there, you could have gone Saint Brown
Speaker 1: or maybe even Nico Collins. Was the upside too good
Speaker 1: to resist with Nikoua at the one eleven tonight.
Speaker 10: Definitely, I'm a big Nikola fan. I draft with my
Speaker 10: eyes a lot. I watch a ton of football. I
Speaker 10: don't miss hardly any TV games. I got the packages,
Speaker 10: and to me, he's a player, and he's very consistent,
Speaker 10: and without Cup he should get a ton of targets,
Speaker 10: and I'm excited about him.
Speaker 2: What do you make?
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people talking about the
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense maybe in decline or maybe spiraling not in
Speaker 1: the right way, and yet I don't hear that about
Speaker 1: Devon ah Chan. Even people who don't necessarily like the
Speaker 1: Dolphins offense seem to still like eight Chan this year.
Speaker 1: This is a guy that I've heard I think was
Speaker 1: the Established the Run podcast I listened to a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago. Those guys are talking about a pathway
Speaker 1: for eight chan he maybe be the one on one,
Speaker 1: or not the one on one, but the top running
Speaker 1: back this year as well. And you get him at
Speaker 1: the two oh two. Again, when you're talking about winning
Speaker 1: first place or socks for nothing, it's all about upside,
Speaker 1: and you clearly saw some upside here with at the
Speaker 1: two oh.
Speaker 10: Definitely definitely another guy that if you watch quick around
Speaker 10: the corner, great cuts, great moves, and uh, he's gonna
Speaker 10: get a lot of a lot of volume this year,
Speaker 10: and I don't think the Dolphins are going to be
Speaker 10: that good of a team, and I could see him.
Speaker 11: Getting a lot of fourth quarter of dump.
Speaker 10: Passes, a lot of what we call garbage time points,
Speaker 10: besides being one of the best players in the league.
Speaker 5: So I think he has tremendous upside.
Speaker 1: Rob the James Cook pick we should talk about too.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who scored sixteen rushing touchdowns last
Speaker 1: season and obviously had some issues of this contract doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like it's a big deal, and he's been reporting
Speaker 1: and everything. He's running back sixteen on average. You get
Speaker 1: him tonight at running back fourteen. So not a big
Speaker 1: greach on this, but your thoughts on why James Cook
Speaker 1: is still going to churn out a top fifteen running
Speaker 1: back season this year.
Speaker 5: This year, So that was a tough pick for me
Speaker 5: right there.
Speaker 10: I was in between. I kind of wanted to take
Speaker 10: a receiver, but I didn't love any of the ones
Speaker 10: that was sitting there, and Cook was really good last year.
Speaker 10: I don't see any reason that Ray Davis is going
Speaker 10: to take over any touches for him again. Should have
Speaker 10: a lot of volume. I think his touchdown number last
Speaker 10: year was a little bit inflated. But the Bills are
Speaker 10: going to be good. They'll have a lot of scoring opportunities.
Speaker 10: Alan will get his touchdowns, but I think Cook will
Speaker 10: be in double digits.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, I have I think I mentioned this
Speaker 1: last night to Ferrell during our broadcast. It's not like
Speaker 1: I have a ton of Marvin Harrison, but I have
Speaker 1: enough so far this season.
Speaker 2: I'm a believer in this guy bouncing back.
Speaker 1: I'm a believer that this guy is going to be
Speaker 1: the beneficiary of an offensive coordinator that realizes what they
Speaker 1: did wrong and how they misused him last year. Is
Speaker 1: going to take advantage of a softer schedule and another
Speaker 1: year of chemistry with Kyler Murray. I like Marvin Harrison
Speaker 1: as the bounce back. You get him at the three
Speaker 1: four turn the four h two tonight. Was that a
Speaker 1: difficult choice? I know you said the cook one was.
Speaker 1: Was Harrison difficult as well?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 10: It was the three four turn late on the eleven
Speaker 10: twelve slot to me is always hard every year.
Speaker 5: Again, Marvin Harrison, I'm a big Ohio State guy. My
Speaker 5: daughter goes to Ohio State.
Speaker 10: But like you said, last year was a mystery that
Speaker 10: he just didn't perform up to his expectations. And my
Speaker 10: hope is that this year he'll bounce back and he'll
Speaker 10: be one of the fantasy stars. I mean, he has
Speaker 10: the potential and he has the ability, So let's hope
Speaker 10: that that's how it plays out.
Speaker 1: Rob When you you said you had never done a
Speaker 1: Best Ball draft before, what kind of prep did you
Speaker 1: did you put into this? Knowing that this was a
Speaker 1: set it and forget a team that you wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to toy around with it throughout the season once
Speaker 1: it's drafted. Tonight, you just got to leave it right.
Speaker 10: So I did do a lot of studying over the
Speaker 10: last week. I use I am not allowed to talk
Speaker 10: about which sites I use and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Is that go ahead, fire away, you do you.
Speaker 5: So, I'm a big football guys. I've been using that
Speaker 5: for a long time.
Speaker 10: So I did a lot of research on football guys
Speaker 10: and uh, you know, they they kind of help you
Speaker 10: with the draft with their one of their tools which
Speaker 10: is really good, and uh that's my go to so
Speaker 10: that I don't have to sit here and you know,
Speaker 10: draw lines on sheets.
Speaker 5: So uh it helps me.
Speaker 10: Uh and you know, it's been good to I've been
Speaker 10: pretty consistent.
Speaker 5: In my FFPC main event contest.
Speaker 10: My my my challenge is getting over the hump and
Speaker 10: drafting a championship team because I feel like I'm pretty
Speaker 10: good at that. During the regular season, I get some
Speaker 10: teams into the championship bracket, but I never have a
Speaker 10: championship team.
Speaker 5: So that's where I need to get over the hump.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's plenty of people that you know,
Speaker 1: you are not alone, in fact, you're in the majority.
Speaker 1: Like it's it's you know, if it was easy, everybody
Speaker 1: would do it, right. Isn't that the old adage, if
Speaker 1: it was easy, that everybody would do it? Uh, you
Speaker 1: were a main event champion, You're a previous main event champion,
Speaker 1: and I believe are you you're drafting from hopeless or
Speaker 1: are you're going to join us in Las Vegas?
Speaker 5: I'm from home.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, perfect, so we will We won't see
Speaker 1: you in Las Vegas, Rob, but what we will see
Speaker 1: is your smiling mug on Friday night as you joined
Speaker 1: the high stakes Fantasy Footballer. Myself and Pharaoh we're going
Speaker 1: to break down this draft extensively, so I'm very excited
Speaker 1: to talk to you about that. Good luck the rest
Speaker 1: of the way and we'll talk with the interview days,
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Rob Thomasino, ladies and gentlemen joining us on the program tonight.
Speaker 2: Good dude.
Speaker 1: Excited to talk to him on Friday.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Rob is already an FFPC main event champion.
Speaker 1: He has never a couple of times over too, by
Speaker 1: the way, he's never won the whole thing. But hopefully
Speaker 1: this will be the year we could say, Hey, we
Speaker 1: talked to the million dollar winner on pros Versus shows
Speaker 1: this year. Back in July, we are motoring through here,
Speaker 1: Farrell getting into the end of the fifth round. Here,
Speaker 1: one of the players that you and I have not
Speaker 1: talked a whole lot about went to Team two tonight.
Speaker 1: Blair Andrews takes Zay Flowers at the five ZHO two.
Speaker 1: What do you make of Flowers this year? After the
Speaker 1: Bateman extension, knowing that Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry are
Speaker 1: there again, and then with John Harbaugh saying he wants
Speaker 1: Isaiah likely to be All Pro this year, nobody's talking
Speaker 1: about Jay Flowers. Should they be talking about Jay Flowers?
Speaker 2: They should be. And I love the football player, but
Speaker 2: I have not loved him as a fantasy player. I
Speaker 2: think this is the year, and somewhat last year, that
Speaker 2: the the draft position will catch up with the production.
Speaker 2: I think he's at the perfect spot. I don't think
Speaker 2: you're getting a bargain here where you're drafting, but you're
Speaker 2: gonna get enough and uh so, so I'm I'm pleased
Speaker 2: with that. I can't say that I would would have
Speaker 2: preferred anyone else there. I think those players are largely interchangeable.
Speaker 2: I love, love the player don't necessarily love the system
Speaker 2: for him, and that's what would and other guys don't either,
Speaker 2: or he wouldn't be in the fifth round here.
Speaker 1: Sur I wanted to ask you this earlier, but I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna ask you now because we have the
Speaker 1: main pieces off the board in the Eagles. You saw
Speaker 1: aj Brown go at the two oweight. You saw DeVonta
Speaker 1: Smith go at the four eleven. Right before that, Jalen
Speaker 1: Hurts at the four oh five, the three biggest cogs
Speaker 1: in the Philly passing game Philadelphia. I brought this up yesterday.
Speaker 1: They ran at an historic pace last year in Routsu
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I can't imagine that they're going to continue
Speaker 1: to be able to run the ball at that pace
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five. Does that make you more likely
Speaker 1: to click the button on Brown, Smith and Hurts this year,
Speaker 1: knowing that these guys might be undervalued by drafters based
Speaker 1: on them underwhelming at least from a fantasy standpoint last
Speaker 1: year because of the success of Barkley.
Speaker 4: I think so. I mean, Eagle schedule is much much
Speaker 4: more difficult this year. The division is you know, Cowboys,
Speaker 4: are you got better? The Commanders got better. The Giants
Speaker 4: still stink, but it's still two wins in the season
Speaker 4: for them. But the Eagles schedule, if you look at it,
Speaker 4: there is not many Eagles easy games where they get
Speaker 4: their game scripts will be very positive. Last year they
Speaker 4: had a lot of things going in their favor where
Speaker 4: they were up. Barkley got a lot of carries, passing
Speaker 4: game got you know, you know, time me down, time
Speaker 4: me down a little bit, so to me, I think hurts.
Speaker 4: Aj Brown, I think is a great click in the
Speaker 4: second round, Like I have Drake London a little higher
Speaker 4: than him. But you know, either of those two I'd
Speaker 4: be throttle with. In the middle of the second round.
Speaker 4: DeVonta Smith. Where he's going. Is this another guy that
Speaker 4: makes a ton of sense and then hurts. You know,
Speaker 4: people are gonna say, well, he doesn't throw the ball,
Speaker 4: but he still has the rushing upside. He still has
Speaker 4: a touch bush. So you know where he's being drafted
Speaker 4: in these you know, pocket five quarterbacks that are being drafted.
Speaker 4: I love him all things considered, So I'm trying not
Speaker 4: to be a homer here, but you know, I like
Speaker 4: the passing game just slightly more than I like drafting.
Speaker 4: Barkley this year.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you are a Homer because it allows me
Speaker 2: to ask both of you guys this question get an
Speaker 2: honest answer. Who won the super Bowl last year?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do believe they won the super Bowl last year,
Speaker 2: and they did it in convincing fashion. I love the
Speaker 2: defense in Philadelphia. They hardly get to play because this
Speaker 2: running game keeps them on the sidelines. I don't under
Speaker 2: you say they won't be able to run the ball trip.
Speaker 4: Because they didn't say they won't be able to I
Speaker 4: just wait, they won't be able to.
Speaker 2: Run the ball. Finish the sentence to the effect of
Speaker 2: positivity that they that they experienced last year, and I
Speaker 2: don't think they're going to go away from that, and
Speaker 2: I think they will be successful. So I guess I'm
Speaker 2: just countering. I can understand why these other players should
Speaker 2: have better years. I mean, Brown's year last year would
Speaker 2: not warrant where he's being drafted here, and I can
Speaker 2: understand that he would have a better year. But you know, you, guys,
Speaker 2: I just don't think they're going to throw away that
Speaker 2: winning script. I think they perfected it.
Speaker 4: I don't think they're going to either. I just think
Speaker 4: the teams are gonna start game planning a little bit
Speaker 4: more like the Chiefs tried to do in the Super
Speaker 4: Bowl to take Barkley out of the game and make
Speaker 4: Hurt speat them. And it worked in the super Bowl
Speaker 4: and it will continue to work. But let's just call
Speaker 4: what it is. I mean, they Barkley was ridiculous last
Speaker 4: year and most people hated him going to the season.
Speaker 4: So you know, another year, another year going into another year,
Speaker 4: another year older. So it's I'm not saying I'm fading
Speaker 4: Barkley in any way, but I can see games doing
Speaker 4: more of a Kansas City game plan like they tried
Speaker 4: in a Super Bowl. Make Hurts beat them, and then
Speaker 4: if you know, if that works out, you saw what
Speaker 4: happened in the super Bowl, and all those passing game
Speaker 4: guys will be values where they're being drafted. Last year, I.
Speaker 2: Think all these Eagles without Barkley and Hurts as being
Speaker 2: your stack. I think the website you're going to be
Speaker 2: consulting is turps in Trouble dot com. And I don't
Speaker 2: want to say I don't I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: I think you're both kind of like I think I'm
Speaker 1: thinking how both of you are are are leading me here.
Speaker 1: I mean, Perrell, I'm with you. I think that the Eagles,
Speaker 1: they they understand how they win. They win games with Barkley,
Speaker 1: they win games on the ground, they win games by
Speaker 1: keeping the other offense off the field. But I also
Speaker 1: think Turp is right too. I just I don't think
Speaker 1: they're going to be able to do that two consecutive
Speaker 1: seasons close to the level that they did last year.
Speaker 1: I'm not a smart man, said for Eric Balkman, and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I think that sometimes it just comes
Speaker 1: down to some regression to the mean. I can't explain it.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if I poured over documents and data and analytics,
Speaker 1: I probably find out reasons for it. This is why
Speaker 1: we have pros, because they can tell me how to
Speaker 1: think about it. But I just look at it from
Speaker 1: the sense of I think wanting to do what they
Speaker 1: did last year is the plan. But I don't know
Speaker 1: if they'll be able to execute the plan as well
Speaker 1: as they did in twenty twenty four. That's my take
Speaker 1: on it. And we'll see what happens. Obviously in what
Speaker 1: five weeks, maybe less than six weeks. I think it's
Speaker 1: right around five weeks.
Speaker 4: Right in Las Vegas. Can't wait. Yeah, I'm so ready
Speaker 4: for that Eagles.
Speaker 1: Cowboys Thursday night at Paris, which is going to be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun in Las Vegas.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 1: I want to get to our next guest here tonight.
Speaker 1: He is another multi league champion in the FFPC. He
Speaker 1: is drafting from the five spot tonight between Andrew Cooper
Speaker 1: and Connor Allen from four for four. Let's bring him
Speaker 1: on right now, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome on to
Speaker 1: the HSFF our airwaves, mister Greg Link, Greg, welcome aboard,
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us tonight. You are six rounds into this,
Speaker 1: about to be on the clock. How do you feel
Speaker 1: about this squad so far?
Speaker 11: Good evening, gentlemen. I'm feeling a little short changed.
Speaker 12: I had a bunch of guys that got sniped from me,
Speaker 12: you know, especially in the second round, coming back literally
Speaker 12: in a row. I wanted Thomas, I wanted Kittle, and
Speaker 12: I just couldn't get a thing. So I'm feeling okay.
Speaker 12: I feel like it's a safe team outside of Trevon Henderson.
Speaker 12: So you know, like I said, I'm going to try
Speaker 12: to try to go for some upside. I'm sure Turp
Speaker 12: would agree with that. I think my team needs a
Speaker 12: little bit of a little bit of juice.
Speaker 4: I love your team. I think your team got plenty
Speaker 4: of juice.
Speaker 12: I appreciate it. Yeah, but I got some got some
Speaker 12: ones I want to hit on later. So trying to
Speaker 12: decide right now. It's kind of a tough spot right now.
Speaker 12: You know, you almost feel like you need to go
Speaker 12: tight in right but kind of looking into the list
Speaker 12: and nothing's really sexy right now with Mark Andrews and
Speaker 12: you know some of them. So I think I'm probably
Speaker 12: gonna have to go back to running back here and
Speaker 12: go with Tony Pollard.
Speaker 1: Tony Pollard is the pick for Greg Link here at
Speaker 1: the seven h five, and this is your third running
Speaker 1: back that you drafted. Now, I will I'll push back
Speaker 1: on like I don't Jamior Gibbs. I mean, granted, maybe
Speaker 1: he's a safe pick, but he's an explosive pick. You
Speaker 1: mentioned Henderson is not being safe, and I think that's
Speaker 1: another explosive player. We already talked about AJ Brown and
Speaker 1: why he could be in for a big season. There's
Speaker 1: a big bounce back on Tyreek Kill right now. Greg
Speaker 1: that among the FFPC drafters that that maybe Hill was
Speaker 1: undervalued about a month or so ago, and now he's
Speaker 1: being properly valued. You have Chris Olave too, which people
Speaker 1: underestimate how good that guy can be, given how good
Speaker 1: he already has been throughout his career. He stays on
Speaker 1: the field. That could be a big pick. So I
Speaker 1: don't know, man like, Yes, there are some certain safe
Speaker 1: picks on this team, but I also think you have
Speaker 1: some explosive difference makers. That could be the difference between
Speaker 1: you getting a pair of socks from the KFFFC and
Speaker 1: a free FFPC main event this year too.
Speaker 11: I don't want to finish second, So yeah, it's it's.
Speaker 1: The best consolation prize ever is getting a pair of
Speaker 1: soxs apparel. You and you would mentioned the tight end
Speaker 1: and you went away from it just nobody you liked
Speaker 1: enough there that you could pull the trigger and just
Speaker 1: rather to build your running back up.
Speaker 11: No, yeah, no one that I feel great about. I've
Speaker 11: got some ones I want.
Speaker 12: I think I can wait a little bit now that
Speaker 12: you know, ask me around from now when two or
Speaker 12: three of those guys are gone and I'll be wishing
Speaker 12: I had taken one. But as of right now, yeah,
Speaker 12: I've kind of got them. Tiered a little bit and
Speaker 12: got two or three coming up that I think I
Speaker 12: can pick from that I think will get good production.
Speaker 12: But it's always so tough for me. I saw last
Speaker 12: night's draft. Fifth pick went to Ors just we first
Speaker 12: pick for the guy in my spot took Trey McBride,
Speaker 12: and I just I just couldn't see myself doing it,
Speaker 12: you know, obviously for Bowers, but he didn't make it
Speaker 12: that far.
Speaker 11: So kind of thought.
Speaker 12: About a couple of builds going into this and kind
Speaker 12: of got blown up within the first three or four picks.
Speaker 11: So it's gotta have to pivot and reroute.
Speaker 1: So Bowers you were hoping for, it didn't happen. McBride
Speaker 1: was too early. You mentioned getting sniped on some other picks,
Speaker 1: and I'm sorry if you mentioned who are the ones
Speaker 1: that you were hoping to get that didn't fall your way?
Speaker 12: Sure on the second round coming back, you can see Collins, Thomas,
Speaker 12: Kittle went one, two, three right before me, and I
Speaker 12: would have I had all those lined up. I actually
Speaker 12: wanted Kittle. Ideally didn't think that Thomas would fall or
Speaker 12: Nico would fall to me, so would have had a
Speaker 12: nice little quandary there if they all were there, But
Speaker 12: I mean, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 11: I've got a lot of good people in this draft.
Speaker 12: They know what they're doing, and like I said, the
Speaker 12: Joe's are not as good as the pros because they
Speaker 12: listen to them. They follow them every time, every day,
Speaker 12: every season. So you know, again, I think we're all
Speaker 12: kind of even right now.
Speaker 1: Getting getting back to the Pollard pick, Greg, what do
Speaker 1: you think the split is going to be like in
Speaker 1: Tennessee this year with a new quarterback in cam Ward?
Speaker 1: What do you think the split is going to be
Speaker 1: in that backfield between Pollard and Spears.
Speaker 12: I think we know that anytime you have a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 12: you want a tight end or a running back as
Speaker 12: they're like security blanket, right, And so for me, I
Speaker 12: do think I think it's going to be probably set
Speaker 12: Thy Spears is very valuable. I mean, he'd be a
Speaker 12: great late round guy to get He gets catches out
Speaker 12: of backfield, He's fast, you know, So honestly, I think
Speaker 12: Paulo seventy thirty, but I definitely think he has some
Speaker 12: upside because I think cam Wwoard's going to take his
Speaker 12: lumps and you know he's going to be handing the ball.
Speaker 4: Off a lot.
Speaker 1: Greg, how did you, because I know you you are
Speaker 1: not a heavy volume early drafting season drafter, how did
Speaker 1: you sort of prep for this pros versus Joe's draft tonight?
Speaker 12: Watching a lot of watching a lot of best ball
Speaker 12: videos also, you know, watching kind of the the rider
Speaker 12: and follower to the ADP, you know. So so for me,
Speaker 12: I mean, best Ball is not the main thing I do,
Speaker 12: but I do do it, and so honestly, it was
Speaker 12: just it's tough for me to draft.
Speaker 11: This early and know that my guys are going to
Speaker 11: make it that they're going to be healthy.
Speaker 12: I come out to Vegas every year for the first
Speaker 12: week and the football start, so I may, yeah, I
Speaker 12: do main events on the Thursday and also do do
Speaker 12: the bracket tournament as well, and so I like drafting
Speaker 12: literally a day before the season.
Speaker 11: So it's a little difficult for me because you know,
Speaker 11: Tyrek Hill, who.
Speaker 12: Knows you know, honestly, he could be arrested by the
Speaker 12: time the season starts.
Speaker 1: Chris A.
Speaker 12: Lobby's one sneeze away from not playing for the season.
Speaker 12: So I've got some issues, you know, that I'm concerned about.
Speaker 12: But hopefully my guys will make.
Speaker 1: It Greg one final question here and maybe two. We'll
Speaker 1: see if we get back to you here. Through seven
Speaker 1: rounds of this twenty round draft, you have three running backs,
Speaker 1: you have four receivers. Does this change the way that
Speaker 1: you handle the quarterback in tight end position the rest
Speaker 1: of the way?
Speaker 12: Absolutely? Absolutely, Yeah. I mean it's gonna come down to value. Obviously,
Speaker 12: he's gonna come down to the guys that I can
Speaker 12: see running back and receivers in the next couple of rounds.
Speaker 12: I got a bunch of guys that are earmarked, but
Speaker 12: I'm gonna have to go at some point in time
Speaker 12: for quarterback. But honestly, not too many have gone off
Speaker 12: the board, you know, in a while, so I feel like,
Speaker 12: you know, maybe I can wait a little bit on that.
Speaker 12: I want to get my strategy away, but you know,
Speaker 12: I might be able to wait on quarterback. But yeah,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna have to start loading up on tight end
Speaker 12: next two or three picks, you know, maybe kind of
Speaker 12: go back to back or two out of the next
Speaker 12: three picks being tight end, just to kind of get
Speaker 12: you know, some value there.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: Bart Starr, old Packers quarterback, used to say that he
Speaker 1: didn't start playing well in games until he got hit
Speaker 1: and knocked down a few times by the defensive linement.
Speaker 1: That's when he really picked it up. And I think, Greg,
Speaker 1: you have the advantage because you just said you're drafting
Speaker 1: live in Las Vegas in the Super Bracket tournament on
Speaker 1: the start of the day at the start of the
Speaker 1: NFL season. Now you've already been sniped several times. You've
Speaker 1: already been hit. So like when you're drafting live in Vegas,
Speaker 1: when there are no sleepers, when everybody's sniping everybody, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to bother you a bit because you're already
Speaker 1: in mid season four man correct.
Speaker 12: I will say the one thing that I will say
Speaker 12: that you benefit from drafting live is that people get
Speaker 12: nervous people, you know, over thinking people want their dudes
Speaker 12: and they go get him and they might reach. There
Speaker 12: are a lot of times value false especially in the early rounds.
Speaker 12: It's not just about middle and late. Yeah, you can
Speaker 12: obviously win there, but if you can, if you can
Speaker 12: get like I had Derek Henry fall to me in
Speaker 12: the second round last year in the main event when
Speaker 12: I was there in Vegas, and I mean I ended
Speaker 12: up being huge for me to win my league, and so,
Speaker 12: you know, I think it's it's really about fantasy IQ, right,
Speaker 12: It's about knowing who you draft against, the same dudes
Speaker 12: are in that super bracket tournament every Vegas.
Speaker 11: I know exactly who they are, I know exactly what
Speaker 11: they want.
Speaker 12: And so depending on where I am in the draft,
Speaker 12: that does dictate like do I need to reach for someone,
Speaker 12: Because if I've got someone on.
Speaker 11: Me my right, that's pretty smart. I might have to
Speaker 11: go a little early when I don't want to.
Speaker 12: If I have somebody that I'm like, yeah, he doesn't
Speaker 12: have any clue what he's doing, I might wait, you know,
Speaker 12: And so sometimes it works out, sometimes it does.
Speaker 11: But I think fantasy IQ is very important in drafts.
Speaker 1: Connor Allen is drafting next to you, Greg. He has
Speaker 1: taken four straight receivers. He is on neck. You're in
Speaker 1: the hole right now, tell us kind of and like,
Speaker 1: you know, feel free to keep you know to yourself
Speaker 1: what you want to keep to yourself here. But what's
Speaker 1: kind of going through your mind here is you're in
Speaker 1: the hole, two picks away from making your eighth round pick.
Speaker 12: So it comes down to what do I really want
Speaker 12: to reach for another running back or receiver right now,
Speaker 12: and all right, let's see what coo.
Speaker 11: All right, let's see what Connor does. That's gonna be. Yeah,
Speaker 11: some of the good.
Speaker 12: Kind of running backs like Scatterbow and stuff like that
Speaker 12: would be ones I'd like to reach for here. But
Speaker 12: you know, obviously that's not gonna happen. So you know,
Speaker 12: gonna have to pivot to one of the two positions
Speaker 12: I don't have yet.
Speaker 5: How about that?
Speaker 1: There you go, and that makes sense in Connor Allen,
Speaker 1: by the way, I said, he drafted four straight receivers.
Speaker 1: He took Lamb in the first round, so through seven
Speaker 1: rounds he's got five receivers. He does have the tight end.
Speaker 1: He's only got one running back. We'll see what he
Speaker 1: does here. But again, as I think Rob was tightening
Speaker 1: or Greg maybe I can't remember when it was, Coop
Speaker 1: was talking about this to start off, the starting lineup
Speaker 1: in this one quarterback, two running backs, two receivers, a
Speaker 1: tight end, and two flowers. Okay, you can go a
Speaker 1: lot of different ways. Now Connor Allen ends up going
Speaker 1: with another receiver here, loading up and uh pissing yellow.
Speaker 1: As Peter Roversett would say, he's got six wide receivers.
Speaker 1: Here you are now on the clock, Greg, four seconds
Speaker 1: to go. Let's go through your mind here, What's what
Speaker 1: are you thinking here?
Speaker 11: I'm gonna go tight end here.
Speaker 12: I'm gonna try to look for a tight end that's got,
Speaker 12: you know, not necessarily upside per se, but it's gonna
Speaker 12: be a solid play.
Speaker 11: Like I look at some of the ones out here
Speaker 11: now and.
Speaker 12: I'm seeing kin Kaid and you know, Johnny Smith, and
Speaker 12: I'm a Steeler fan and I'm not I'm not sold
Speaker 12: on that just yet.
Speaker 11: I don't care how good he looks in camp.
Speaker 12: So I think I'm gonna have to go for someone
Speaker 12: who I think has got, you know, got good upside,
Speaker 12: He's in a good offense.
Speaker 11: They spread the ball around. I think I'm gonna go
Speaker 11: with Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 1: Ferguson, there you go. Ferguson's gonna be interesting this year too,
Speaker 1: because I know there's a lot of people that are
Speaker 1: sold on George Pickens being the number two target getter
Speaker 1: in in Dallas. And like Lee Corso would say, not
Speaker 1: so fast, my friend, I think we got to remember
Speaker 1: there as well, especially in a tight end premium format,
Speaker 1: that could prove to be a very apprecient pick here
Speaker 1: by you, Greg, Greg Link. Ladies and gentlemen, Greg Will
Speaker 1: we'll send you off to let you enjoy the rest
Speaker 1: of the draft. Good Luck the rest of the way,
Speaker 1: good luck at drafting season, and we'll see you out
Speaker 1: at Paris in Las Vegas this September.
Speaker 11: Man, that sounds great, appreciate it. Thanks guys.
Speaker 1: That is ladies and gentlemen hanging out with us tonight
Speaker 1: on the High Stakes Fantasy Football over Farrel Elliott, Dave
Speaker 1: Chipoli joining me Eric Balkman for live coverage of Night
Speaker 1: two of the Pros Versus Joes. I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say regarding the tight end here, Farrell Ferguson was Greg's
Speaker 1: first pick. Sometime first tight end selection was Ferguson. You
Speaker 1: already had mcbriden, Kelsey, Drake, and Donnelly in the in
Speaker 1: the eighth spot from Fantasy points. They loaded up and
Speaker 1: got two tight ends within the first five rounds. Farrell,
Speaker 1: When you're drafting out at Paris and you're drafting FFPC
Speaker 1: drafts and you see somebody draft two tight ends before
Speaker 1: you have one, how much does that affect how you
Speaker 1: want to attack the tight end position.
Speaker 2: It likely is not going to happen because I attacked
Speaker 2: the tight end position very aggressively. I probably overplay a
Speaker 2: little bit for the position to get the first first one,
Speaker 2: and then if it falls to me, if they're later
Speaker 2: off the board, I'll quickly take the second one. And
Speaker 2: it's it's proved. It's proven to be in our FFPC
Speaker 2: format for me, such a nice crutch to lean on
Speaker 2: U to have the dual flex and to play both
Speaker 2: those players. So, because there's just so many wide receivers
Speaker 2: that that I love, and as you know, my favorite
Speaker 2: wide receiver hasn't even been drafted yet, so we're in
Speaker 2: no matter what. There's so there's so many wide receivers
Speaker 2: that it just I figure I can find those guys
Speaker 2: and uh so, but you can't find these tdeas.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: I love Ferguson. He did not find the end zone
Speaker 2: last year. It came on these shows with Terp. One
Speaker 2: of the things Turp and I could agree on is
Speaker 2: that Ferguson would be a massive red zone target for Dallas.
Speaker 2: Last year. You never found the end zone, but he
Speaker 2: still fifty nine balls and he was he was not
Speaker 2: physically prepared to play a lot of football. So I
Speaker 2: think I think our mister link scored really big here.
Speaker 1: Clearly Joe van Goh watching the broadcast to night as
Speaker 1: he selects Michael Pittman as Joe at the nine. Good
Speaker 1: good job on him to get him there. We also
Speaker 1: had this comment from the fantasy soprano himself, Stephen de Grgalos, Dave,
Speaker 1: Team two and Team six is gonna beat each other
Speaker 1: up at running back in the second half, Turk, What
Speaker 1: do you make of that? That's Blair Andrews at the
Speaker 1: two spot. That's Connor Allen from the six spot. Both
Speaker 1: guys have hopped aboard with me on FFPC Insider Access.
Speaker 1: Really smart guys, obviously, they know what they're talking about.
Speaker 1: Their their choice in co hosting a show as maybe
Speaker 1: a little misguided that they would hang out with me
Speaker 1: for two hours, But I'd say their fantasy football chops
Speaker 1: are excellent. What do you make of Blair Andrews drafting
Speaker 1: six receivers in the first eight rounds and Connor Allen
Speaker 1: doing the exact same thing?
Speaker 4: Turn my favorite team so far? I mean, I think
Speaker 4: six is probably my favorite draft so far. I know,
Speaker 4: like the one running back thing. Obviously, Chase Brown, who
Speaker 4: who I love and will draft as much as I can.
Speaker 4: Those receivers I'm all a big fan of you know,
Speaker 4: you're talking about getting Lamb, getting more, getting Wild, getting
Speaker 4: Ridley Jennings, all favorites of mine, Jayden Reid. It makes
Speaker 4: a ton of sense. If you're trying to buy a packer,
Speaker 4: it's probably gonna be read Rock Perdy gives you the upside,
Speaker 4: gives you the stack with you know, with Jennings, I
Speaker 4: love what Team six did. Team two same, same, pretty
Speaker 4: much lockstep Jonathan Taylor. You know, if if Daniel Jones
Speaker 4: the quarterback is much better, getting Bowers is the elite
Speaker 4: tight end. Those receivers, you know, whether you like them
Speaker 4: or not, you know, they're all guys that have potential
Speaker 4: to break out. And then getting Jayleen Warren to start
Speaker 4: your running back two committee, it makes a ton of sense.
Speaker 4: There are two teams I think had great drafts so far.
Speaker 4: I approve both.
Speaker 2: I think Team two has the better receivers.
Speaker 4: I don't agree. I'm steedee Lamb.
Speaker 2: Boy.
Speaker 1: It's close.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well okay, I'm sorry, Turp. Yeah, take c D.
Speaker 2: Lamb out of it. Go down here to the middle
Speaker 2: group of receivers that were selected.
Speaker 4: Would agree, Yeah, I don't know. I still probably take
Speaker 4: I'll still probably take Team six, but it's not by
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 6: It's close.
Speaker 1: Look at the types of receivers that that Connor Allen
Speaker 1: is drafted here at six, like you have DJ Moore.
Speaker 1: He is in kind of a nebulous spot right like
Speaker 1: because of the addition of Luther Burden and Colston Lovelin
Speaker 1: and new coaching staff, and we know that the Bears
Speaker 1: had to talk to him about his attitude last year.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what's gonna happen there. Jalen Wattle.
Speaker 1: I can tell myself the story of how that dude's
Speaker 1: a top fifteen receiver this year. I can also see
Speaker 1: him not finishing in the top forty. Ridley Brand new quarterback,
Speaker 1: how's his chemistry gonna work with Cam wod Juwan Jennings,
Speaker 1: same thing. I mean, all these guys have warts on
Speaker 1: this team.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 1: I guess I could say the same thing about about
Speaker 1: Blair Andrews squad like JSN. Yeah, he's a third round
Speaker 1: pick and he's probably gonna pay off on that. But
Speaker 1: at the same time time, they fired the o C
Speaker 1: last year because he passed too much and they want
Speaker 1: to run the ball more, how does that affect Smith
Speaker 1: and Jigba Flowers. We already talked about Smith, We already
Speaker 1: talked about Jerry Judy. I mean, there's this ground swell
Speaker 1: for Cedric Tillman right now. Obviously Deontay Johnson there too,
Speaker 1: kind of gumming up the works. Romo Junez eight. I mean,
Speaker 1: I was just listening to Sean Siegal talk about this
Speaker 1: the other day, that this guy is in a could
Speaker 1: be in a high bust territory based on all the
Speaker 1: other pass catchers in Chicago this year.
Speaker 2: And then Downs.
Speaker 1: I think I think all three of us like Downs,
Speaker 1: but Farrell's obviously team Pittman. But okay, so so am
Speaker 1: I the only guy that likes Josh Downs.
Speaker 4: I think Downs is I don't mind Josh Downs, but
Speaker 4: I probably will pass on him more than most.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think of the eighth round draft pick,
Speaker 2: the seventy catch guy with five touchdowns, and that's what
Speaker 2: I think he'll usually be through his career. And that's
Speaker 2: a great football player, but I don't think that's going
Speaker 2: to get it done for you to win this tournament.
Speaker 2: Pittman has a potential in the history of being one
Speaker 2: hundred cash receiver.
Speaker 1: So and so let me let me bring this up
Speaker 1: in pharall. I apologize Turp. We have not talked about
Speaker 1: this yet, but I know Farrell and I think Farrell
Speaker 1: and I did so. Michael Pittman year two in the NFL,
Speaker 1: eighty eight for one thousand, eighty two, year three, ninety
Speaker 1: nine for nine twenty five, year four, one hundred and
Speaker 1: nine for eleven hundred and fifty two, year five, sixty
Speaker 1: nine for eight aweight. But bear in mind he was
Speaker 1: playing last season with a broken back back, you know,
Speaker 1: and he and sixty nine.
Speaker 2: For eight awaight with a broken back.
Speaker 1: Pharal. If I have a broken back, I ain't moving
Speaker 1: for six months. Michael Pittman played a football season with
Speaker 1: a broke.
Speaker 2: In this format especially, you might want to take tough players,
Speaker 2: guys to play hurt. You know. It's it's availability, the
Speaker 2: greatest ability, and I got it.
Speaker 4: My easy answer with Pittman is there's no guarantee that
Speaker 4: Josh down is going to be on the field for
Speaker 4: the full time. They have a bunch of other guys
Speaker 4: are going to rotate in one thing that's almost guaranteed.
Speaker 4: Andrew Cooper said it perfectly is Michael Pittman is going
Speaker 4: to be out there one hundred percent of the time,
Speaker 4: so he's gonna have all the opportunities possible to be
Speaker 4: out there. Josh Downs, he's playing full time. Hey, the
Speaker 4: upside's there, but I don't see that day being here
Speaker 4: anytime soon. And we still have the Daniel Jones Anthony
Speaker 4: Richardson question out there. So to me, if I'm drafting
Speaker 4: a coult receiver, all things considered, where they're being drafted,
Speaker 4: it's Pittman for me.
Speaker 2: Ever, downs it could be a steal, you know, a
Speaker 2: ninth round pick.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying I'm not downgrading Downs,
Speaker 4: but to me, there's a lot more things that have
Speaker 4: to go right for downs, and there are catch.
Speaker 2: Guy and Boky. Based on the way you broke down
Speaker 2: the receivers here, well, this draft should have drafted some
Speaker 2: damn running backs, a tight end, and a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I'm having some fun here because obviously
Speaker 1: we are in an area in the draft where everybody's
Speaker 1: got warts and and nobody. I mean, if these guys
Speaker 1: were perfect, they'd be second and third round picks, not
Speaker 1: eighth and ninth round picks. Turp let me ask you
Speaker 1: about Tillman. I just brought him up here there. There's
Speaker 1: some people really telling with you know, telling me i'd
Speaker 1: be a podcast or I'm reading about it on the internet.
Speaker 1: That not to sleep on Cedric Tillman with the Browns
Speaker 1: this year. This is after Jerry Judy just went ham
Speaker 1: on the rest of the league. After the trade to
Speaker 1: Cleveland last year, you have a really ambiguous situation at quarterback.
Speaker 1: What do you make of Cedric Tillman in the tenth
Speaker 1: round who went to the King Scott Engel from Rotoballer here.
Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of Edward Tillman. You know, he
Speaker 4: was a guy like coming out of college. You know,
Speaker 4: I really thought that, you know, once he got his
Speaker 4: footing in the NFL, he'd be, you know, starting to
Speaker 4: turn into a player. And you saw that little late
Speaker 4: last year. I mean he really became what you know,
Speaker 4: some people like myself thought he was going to be.
Speaker 4: The only question is is the Cleveland Browns who was
Speaker 4: playing quarterback? They're going to run the ball still, you know,
Speaker 4: their offense is not exciting. Joe Flocko was never going
Speaker 4: to start six, you know, seventeen games, and that's who
Speaker 4: everybody wants to start. So you got these rookies, you're like,
Speaker 4: you know, whether it's Gabriel, whether it's Kenny Picket, whether
Speaker 4: it's Shador Sanders, which is probably not gonna happen. You know,
Speaker 4: how do we have anything we could bank on with
Speaker 4: Tillman being that high upside guy that we look for.
Speaker 4: Is the possibility there? Yeah, Jerry Dewey's there and a joke,
Speaker 4: who's there? They're not going anywhere? So to me, you know,
Speaker 4: I like Tim him, but he used to be a
Speaker 4: little cheaper. He's starting to get up there where he starts.
Speaker 4: His name is starting to pop up in these puff
Speaker 4: pieces that we always see, and he's starting to get
Speaker 4: a little bit more expensive. I'll still have him. I
Speaker 4: saw have a ton early. But it's hard to get
Speaker 4: really excited about the Browns offense, even if Joe Flacco
Speaker 4: is the quarterback, and you know, dude, can they can?
Speaker 4: They can? Najoku, Judy and Tilman get there? I don't think.
Speaker 1: So let me ask you guys some one word answer
Speaker 1: on this question. Excuse me I'm getting for talking about
Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns quarterback situation, which I'm sure they are too.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to ask you which quarterback it is?
Speaker 1: But how many games does the quarterback that starts the
Speaker 1: most games for the Browns this year start? In other words,
Speaker 1: whatever quarterback starts for most games, how many will it
Speaker 1: be this year?
Speaker 2: Is it four? Is it seven? Is it ten?
Speaker 1: Is a higher than ten? What do you guys say?
Speaker 4: My number would be ten, My number will be ten.
Speaker 4: I think Flacco gets there. I mean, I think he
Speaker 4: starts unless the only person I could see lee now
Speaker 4: Flacco is Dylan Gabriel. I don't see there being any guy.
Speaker 4: You know, Kenny Pickett is not winning that job. And
Speaker 4: if he does, world I.
Speaker 2: Mean Leyland bye week, Welke.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's bye week is nine nine.
Speaker 2: But let's I think Turp's got the right numbers. Then,
Speaker 2: you know, guys, just statistics football. We love we love
Speaker 2: Josh Down's skill set. I don't love his size, but
Speaker 2: I love his skill set. This has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with Pittman. But we go back to the Zay Flowers
Speaker 2: question that we had earlier, and you look up the
Speaker 2: stats last year and you say nothing was working right
Speaker 2: in the passing game there in Indianapolis. We'd all loves
Speaker 2: eight flowers as I do. Ian Down's put up largely
Speaker 2: the same stats, more yardage to flowers, but largely the
Speaker 2: same stats. So you know, I can't too much complain
Speaker 2: about Josh Dawns being picked four after or four rounds later.
Speaker 1: So guys, I want to bring this up. Drew de
Speaker 1: Luca chimes in coop with Engram in the seventh is
Speaker 1: so on brand and I'm here for it. Still giddy
Speaker 1: about getting him at the seven, twelve and the scott
Speaker 1: Fish Bowl. Drew de Luca also pointed out, and this
Speaker 1: is where I'm leading into my next question. Here, so
Speaker 1: many great picks here across the board, but I'll show
Speaker 1: some love to Team seven. Rubio, our good buddy, says,
Speaker 1: I like Herma Joe's team at seven as well. Now
Speaker 1: Team seven is Kyle Hoff and Ryan Heller. We haven't
Speaker 1: talked a whole lot about their squad tonight, but guys,
Speaker 1: what do you make of it?
Speaker 4: Here?
Speaker 1: He gets Lamar or I should say they get Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson at the three. They've kind of cobbled together this
Speaker 1: backfield starting in round five with Connor r J. Harvey
Speaker 1: and then Cam Ski and the receivers Justin Jefferson, Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas obviously those guys are elite, and then you get
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, you get Jakobe Myers, you get Khalil Shakir.
Speaker 1: There's some stability in the back of the last two
Speaker 1: wide receiver picks there, and then you got it. You
Speaker 1: wait until round ten to take Goddard, which we'll see
Speaker 1: what he does or what they do the rest of
Speaker 1: the way here. But team seven getting some love on
Speaker 1: YouTube right now.
Speaker 4: Turt not for me at all. It's not a structure
Speaker 4: that I love. I mean, you know, I love how
Speaker 4: he started with Jefferson, Thomas and Lamar. You know I
Speaker 4: love Worthy. You know that's a good pick. I don't
Speaker 4: mind the running backs and Connor and Harvey. But then
Speaker 4: after that, like your tight end position is extremely weak.
Speaker 4: You're way behind the ball, I mean, non homer or
Speaker 4: whatever you want to call it. Dallas Goddar, to me,
Speaker 4: is not a good pick. There's other guys that present
Speaker 4: more upside, Like what has to happen for Dallas Goddard
Speaker 4: to get there, Brown Smith to get hurt and the
Speaker 4: Eagles start throwing the ball more. That's a lot, a
Speaker 4: lot of things that have to happen for God to
Speaker 4: pay off, you know, being your your top tight end select.
Speaker 2: That was a theme last night, turp And, Uh that
Speaker 2: was that was a theme last night. And no one
Speaker 2: would jog on the boat with me on that. And
Speaker 2: I think it's just he's he's the he's the poor
Speaker 2: man's equivalent to George Kittle. I think George Kittle the
Speaker 2: greatest football player in the league, one of the top
Speaker 2: George League. He's not the greatest fantasy football player in
Speaker 2: the league. And then, you know, got it for different reasons.
Speaker 2: I love that team with what they they went out
Speaker 2: and did with Lamar Jackson. They're just a tight end short.
Speaker 2: That's that's you know.
Speaker 4: They're short in the running back room has a lot
Speaker 4: of questions.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'll talk about the running backs at a second here,
Speaker 1: but I want to throw this at you. Joe King
Speaker 1: just popped in YouTube with this. Let's take away the
Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers pick here and let's replace it with Mark Andrews.
Speaker 1: Now all of a sudden, Yeah, and you get that
Speaker 1: stack with Lamar Jackson and Mark Andrews too.
Speaker 4: Makes a ton of sense. It would make the team
Speaker 4: totally different.
Speaker 1: All right, So so the running backs, turp and And,
Speaker 1: while I agree with you, in theory on this and
Speaker 1: first place is getting a free main event team, and
Speaker 1: with all due respect to the socks that Pharaoh will
Speaker 1: be providing for the second place team, I'm going for first. R. J.
Speaker 1: Harvey is the type of running back that, Yeah, Dobbins
Speaker 1: might affect him, but I could also see how he
Speaker 1: finishes in the top ten at running back this year.
Speaker 1: Cam Scattabu is another guy. I don't know what to
Speaker 1: make of this player, Like, I know what he did
Speaker 1: in college. I know athleticism isn't exactly one of his
Speaker 1: strong points, but sometimes athleticism doesn't matter. Some guys just
Speaker 1: have it, and he might just have it. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he does, but I don't know what's gonna happen
Speaker 1: when he gets to the next level. I don't really
Speaker 1: have a good comparison for Skataboo, So what happens If
Speaker 1: he's a top twenty running back or maybe even a
Speaker 1: top fifteen running back this year, then all of a
Speaker 1: sudden that running back room looks a lot better.
Speaker 12: Now.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that's going to happen at all,
Speaker 1: but I can at least tell myself a story where
Speaker 1: this running back build makes a little bit of sense.
Speaker 1: Steph Miller chiming in on the same thing. She likes
Speaker 1: the layers of the running backs here, inter but you
Speaker 1: may not like it, but you can at least admit
Speaker 1: here that there is a path for this team.
Speaker 4: There's definitely a path. I mean, obviously you need, you know,
Speaker 4: a little bit more things right than the other teams
Speaker 4: that I like, but there's definitely a path to get there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I personally think that Drake maypick's a little excessive.
Speaker 4: We're talking about the tight end position. You have Lamar.
Speaker 4: You're banking on Lamar, and Lamar has to be the guy.
Speaker 4: He's easier god, but Drake may like, if he hits
Speaker 4: your lineup, you're probably at a deficit because.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's where you're right, Turp. I would have
Speaker 2: gone another tight end there. But let's say something that
Speaker 2: nobody's talking about. Khalil Shakier. There's one hundred catch wide
Speaker 2: receiver right there. Kh Khalil Shakir had the best improvement
Speaker 2: last year statistically, and he's going to put another time.
Speaker 4: I don't mind him where he's being drafted. He doesn't
Speaker 4: excite me. He's a hard click for me.
Speaker 2: I can't imagine terp what you don't like about this player.
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine, you know. Again, he's putting up
Speaker 2: the same numbers. He's back there, he's there with those
Speaker 2: Zay Flowers numbers and he you know you can't.
Speaker 4: I don't and won't have any z Flowers. So a
Speaker 4: Flowers is not a guy.
Speaker 2: That Okay, well let's stay on. Then that was just
Speaker 2: an example.
Speaker 4: I know you were talking about him earlier, so I
Speaker 4: wanted to correct yourself there. I don't drift you want.
Speaker 2: Guy, That's that's my thing, Pararell.
Speaker 1: It's a ninth round pick, you know, like like if.
Speaker 2: You just damn near, he's not going to hurt you
Speaker 2: there that we're all for hurt. He's he could deliver.
Speaker 2: He's going to outscore most of these wide receivers on
Speaker 2: this team.
Speaker 1: Except Buffalo was not a heavy passing team last year.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to be, and obviously James Cook ran
Speaker 1: pure most of the year. Ray Davis actually looked really
Speaker 1: good as well. Passing was never a huge part of
Speaker 1: the equation with Buffalo, similar to the same way of
Speaker 1: what I said with Philadelphia, where I don't think they
Speaker 1: can be as efficient this year. I don't think Buffalo
Speaker 1: can be as efficient as they were last year. Run
Speaker 1: the ball, which usually means good things for Shakir Pararell's
Speaker 1: good buddy Matt Collins no longer on the team and
Speaker 1: bow to replace that. They did, however, go out and
Speaker 1: add Joshua Palmer, and this is year two.
Speaker 4: I'll forget. Don't forget as well. You're forgetting somebody.
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, Kincaid.
Speaker 4: Elijah Moore, no matter what, come on, man, Bobs, we
Speaker 4: don't ever give up on him.
Speaker 2: Bob Loan is.
Speaker 1: A big Elijah Moore fan. We talked with him about
Speaker 1: this last night too. I talked with him about it
Speaker 1: Thursday on the FFPC Insider accesshow which you can watch,
Speaker 1: by the way, on the Better Sports Network seven to
Speaker 1: nine each and every Thursday night year round. So he
Speaker 1: was talking abou Elijah Moore and you still have Kincaid there,
Speaker 1: so I could see it might just be a net
Speaker 1: net now, Farrell, one hundred receptions is tough for me
Speaker 1: to see.
Speaker 2: Eighty sure, ninety, I don't know.
Speaker 1: One hundred.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's going to come to that. Oh
Speaker 2: I don't either, But well, you just said he's a
Speaker 2: hunter catch guy. He's a hundred catch guy.
Speaker 1: We're having some fun here tonight. I love it here
Speaker 1: as team seven back on the clock, guys.
Speaker 2: And I read that at turpsin Trouble dot Com. Everybody
Speaker 2: should go there.
Speaker 1: We got to get that RL tap dangerous.
Speaker 4: Stuff, dangerous stuff around the corner.
Speaker 1: Bill Hollywood chimed in, let's talk about the two joes
Speaker 1: at nine and eleven. We talked about Rob Thomasino's team earlier.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about Bob Bonapone's team here at
Speaker 1: the ninth spot. Bill Hollywood says, he that's one of
Speaker 1: the teams that he really likes. You're looking at filling
Speaker 1: out the quarterback room here round ten on. He's got
Speaker 1: Prescott McCarthy. I really like that. The running backs are
Speaker 1: Henry Walker, Robinson, Mason, Charbonnay Girndo. The one thing that
Speaker 1: I see with the majority of those running backs not
Speaker 1: a lot of catches, like a lot of in between
Speaker 1: the tackles, a lot of touches. Not a lot of
Speaker 1: catches in that running back room, which could be fine.
Speaker 1: The receivers are neighbors Wilson Pickens and that's it. So
Speaker 1: this is a this in Hockinson's obviously the tight end,
Speaker 1: so this is a team where he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: rely on some spike week wide receivers Farrel within the
Speaker 1: last eight rounds of the draft to supplement these target
Speaker 1: monsters and neighbors and Wilson and He's I would probably
Speaker 1: look at some some I mean, as weird as as
Speaker 1: it sounds, some were running backs. Just get a couple
Speaker 1: more upside running backs, and I think you probably need
Speaker 1: you definitely need to add one more tight end. The
Speaker 1: question is Farrel, do you need to add a third
Speaker 1: tight end on that squad?
Speaker 2: I think so. I think I would, especially if you're
Speaker 2: so light a wide receiver, you could And you know
Speaker 2: the tight end whispers favorite one from last year still
Speaker 2: out there, so if you listen to the show, you
Speaker 2: know who that is. And they're all somewhat interchangeable, So
Speaker 2: pick the one you like and try to get the
Speaker 2: stack that you're working with if you can. Yeah, Buky.
Speaker 2: Eventually those hundred cash receivers in the ninth round are
Speaker 2: going to run out, and I think that's we're.
Speaker 1: There, Turp. What do you make of those those running backs?
Speaker 1: Like again, I like Henry this year. I definitely like Walker.
Speaker 1: This year, Robinson, I've drafted in several Kentucky Fantasy Football
Speaker 1: State Championship leagues. I've been talking of Jordan Mason, although
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm flipping back to Aaron Jones
Speaker 1: right now is the better guy because Mason is just
Speaker 1: shooting up the draft boards way way too high, and
Speaker 1: then I you know, he's locking up the Seattle backfield
Speaker 1: here with with Walker and Sharboney, this is an interesting
Speaker 1: collection of running backs for Bob Bonapone. Bob Bonapone at
Speaker 1: the nine spot.
Speaker 4: I really like his team. I love his receivers. I
Speaker 4: love Davers, Wilson and Pickens. It's just a little bit
Speaker 4: of an overkill at the running back position. I just
Speaker 4: feel like he drifted probably one maybe two too many.
Speaker 4: The Garrendo pick just seems a little bit excessive to me.
Speaker 4: You know, you could say whether you like Robinson, Mason
Speaker 4: or Sharpena one of those guys. To me, it's this
Speaker 4: a little too much. You got you got to mix
Speaker 4: the receiver in there, because realistically, if any of those
Speaker 4: receivers go down or you know, Hockinson just bus, this
Speaker 4: team could be you know, at trouble at the two positions,
Speaker 4: so restructor.
Speaker 2: I kind of see what he's doing here. He's got
Speaker 2: a Henry's gonna score for him every week, right, Henry's
Speaker 2: except maybe week one last year. So Henry's going to
Speaker 2: score for him every week. So he's picking out his
Speaker 2: number two. Out of that, he gets a number two
Speaker 2: running back to cout out perform most of the number
Speaker 2: two running backs, and then he's got a potential flegs
Speaker 2: out of these guys. So I, you know, this is
Speaker 2: a cool strategy. I like, and I would have done
Speaker 2: another tight end down here at the bottom, but yeah, why.
Speaker 1: Not Davis Maddock Jim Horasei, Jim, I'm apologize if I'm
Speaker 1: butchering her last name. Jim Horasey was watching us on
Speaker 1: YouTube tonight. So that Davis maddocks team has huge upside here.
Speaker 1: Let's look at Davis's team from the twelve spot, and
Speaker 1: there are some interesting picks here. You got Allen and
Speaker 1: Goff at quarterback. He gets Josh Allen with the first
Speaker 1: pick in the fourth round. The backfield is led by
Speaker 1: McCaffrey Hampton. He does get Dylan Sampson here in round eleven,
Speaker 1: which we'll talk about in a second regard Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Speaker 1: And then the receivers are a Monross, Saint Brown, Rashie Rice,
Speaker 1: Jamison Williams, Matthew Golden, a Mecha Gukap tight ends are
Speaker 1: Andrews in Loveland. Here's what I love about this team specifically,
Speaker 1: just just looking at it right now. McCaffrey injury risk,
Speaker 1: a Monross Saint Brown off season knee surgery, Omarion Hampton,
Speaker 1: Naji Harris, Rashie Rice, suspension, Jamison Williams potential trade guy
Speaker 1: after the season. We don't know how he's going to
Speaker 1: be used. Matthew Golden could disappear in a sea of
Speaker 1: Packers receivers and Mechaguka rookie along with Evans and Godwin
Speaker 1: Colston Loveland shoulder surgery. Dylan Samson, second running back drafted
Speaker 1: by the Browns.
Speaker 2: Jared Goff.
Speaker 1: The team was out of control last year and he
Speaker 1: only finished his quarterback nine.
Speaker 2: You know what I see.
Speaker 1: I see a lot of misfit toys, and I see
Speaker 1: a guy who is gunning for first place. This guy
Speaker 1: hates your socks, Barrell, because he has all this year
Speaker 1: with to draft this dominant team to not only win
Speaker 1: this league, but if everything goes right, he could be
Speaker 1: the number one overall pros versus Joe's champion as well.
Speaker 1: So Madick drafts without fear, and terp shouldn't we always
Speaker 1: draft without fear?
Speaker 4: One thousand percent. He's exactly doing exactly what you said.
Speaker 4: He's going for first and if it doesn't work, guy,
Speaker 4: he's probably gonna come in twelve. And at the end
Speaker 4: of the day, who cares because he's drafted. I mean,
Speaker 4: if he gets CMC from the past, I mean, he
Speaker 4: wins this league. You know, Saint Brown, if if that
Speaker 4: knee surgery is not anything you gotta worry about, He's
Speaker 4: getting the best quarterback in some eyes in fantasy football.
Speaker 4: If a mari and Hampton and naj Harris, you know,
Speaker 4: off season turmoil stuff. He takes that job early and
Speaker 4: then the receivers. I mean, if he could just survive
Speaker 4: until where she Rice gets his two or four game suspension,
Speaker 4: I love what he did in this structure. I would
Speaker 4: not do this structure in like a main event or
Speaker 4: a gorilla draft or something like that, because to me
Speaker 4: it's a little bit too risky. But in this format,
Speaker 4: absolutely it's probably the most you know, all in type
Speaker 4: of drafted that I've seen in the first two drafts,
Speaker 4: of just going for it because if it doesn't work out,
Speaker 4: who cares?
Speaker 2: It's not her. I wish she would come on and
Speaker 2: tell us that, tell us if that was intentional. I'm
Speaker 2: sure it was.
Speaker 4: He an extremely smart guy. He's been getting a lot
Speaker 4: of crap on Twitter I've seen in the last week
Speaker 4: or so, but he's you know, he's an intelligent guy.
Speaker 4: He knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: You know, if you don't have haters, you're not doing
Speaker 1: it right an percent.
Speaker 4: If you don't have haters like all these people to
Speaker 4: come on and troll them. Hey, he does good work.
Speaker 4: Those guys over there, they're very good at what they do.
Speaker 4: And you know, he drafted a good team tonight. Whether
Speaker 4: it comes in first doesn't really matter because he went
Speaker 4: for it and it works out, it works out. If
Speaker 4: it doesn't, oh well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just looking at this too. With with Golf
Speaker 1: and Monross, Saint Prown that's a nice little stack to
Speaker 1: have too in your back pocket. And James Williams and
Speaker 1: James and Williams great points t if I missed that
Speaker 1: as well. So that's something that that I think Davis
Speaker 1: whether I mean, I'm sure there we go and he's
Speaker 1: having a great draft. There's a pick we had Scott
Speaker 1: Engel had three tight ends through twelve rounds. We had
Speaker 1: Davis Maddick draft three tight ends through thirteen rounds. Farrell,
Speaker 1: if your draft, think in a twenty round best ball
Speaker 1: a league, is there a specific spot where you like
Speaker 1: to have three your third tight end on the roster
Speaker 1: by or does it? Does it kind of depend upon
Speaker 1: team construction.
Speaker 2: I don't know in this format, I would draft four
Speaker 2: tight ends just four?
Speaker 1: Kurp, What about you?
Speaker 4: It depends where you're drafting, Like if you're draft in
Speaker 4: the middle of the road guys, I think it's three
Speaker 4: maybe four, But it really just depends on like if
Speaker 4: you can get Hunter Henry it's your third tight end.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 4: Or if you really want to wait and take an
Speaker 4: upside guy like an Ronde Gatston or Ferguson or something
Speaker 4: like that. Theo Johnson guys like that to have some
Speaker 4: upside to him. But you know, especially in this format,
Speaker 4: like it makes total sense if you get a zero
Speaker 4: who cares like it is what it is. But if
Speaker 4: you hit one of these guys, I mean, like like
Speaker 4: Andrew said he was on the show earlier. You're upside
Speaker 4: and you're really taking it. You're taking the advantage away
Speaker 4: from a lot of the guys in the draft if
Speaker 4: you're taking one of these guys later, like you know,
Speaker 4: like I said, Ferguson, you know Gadsden, Theo Johnson, just
Speaker 4: a name a few know of guys who are getting
Speaker 4: drafted here late that could really, you know, give you
Speaker 4: leverage against everybody else.
Speaker 2: And the Whisper kind of put a put a pin
Speaker 2: in that Tucker crap balloon to a degree. You know,
Speaker 2: he's been so on. I just see's so good with it.
Speaker 2: He called last year. I'd like when we when we're
Speaker 2: getting back, I'd like to know, you know, who's this
Speaker 2: year's hunter, Henry.
Speaker 1: We have to keep watching to see what Coop does
Speaker 1: in the final seven rounds here, because he's got Ingrams
Speaker 1: one tight end, but nobody else since then. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to Coop's team in a second. I
Speaker 1: just want to point out Davis Maddock's haters apparently not
Speaker 1: fans of the high stakes fantasy football are, because he's
Speaker 1: getting nothing but love here. You got Joe King. Davis
Speaker 1: is our guy, Alex P. Keaton Davis is a good guy.
Speaker 1: Tom Smith Team twelve which is Davis Maddock reckless drafting,
Speaker 1: gotta love it. And then of course Steph Miller Davis
Speaker 1: Team blanks. She means it in a good way.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Anyway, let's let we go.
Speaker 2: If we go off the grid of the twelve teams
Speaker 2: and go over to uh, our guest in the in
Speaker 2: the chat room. I got to point out to you,
Speaker 2: bulky and into you turb He was on fire last
Speaker 2: night and he's even better tonight. Adam han Is. Adam
Speaker 2: Han's over here, back in a thousand. Just smart keeps
Speaker 2: coming out. You know, the Adam Han.
Speaker 4: Everybody knows, very smart guy.
Speaker 1: You know what also is great about Adam is his
Speaker 1: YouTube profile picture. You got to take a guy like
Speaker 1: that pretty seriously. I got it up on the screen
Speaker 1: right now like.
Speaker 5: Some guy.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 12: And okay there all.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah you got me. I'm sorry, you're a little darker,
Speaker 1: but you're back now, hold on, hold on, there we go. Okay, So, yeah,
Speaker 1: Adam han Is. This is not like some sort of
Speaker 1: dancing Jeff or anything like that. This is a serious
Speaker 1: man who takes his fantasy football seriously. By the way,
Speaker 1: Jim HERESI also pointing this out too that Davis Maddeck
Speaker 1: an upcoming father as well, So congratulat. Yeah, absolutely good
Speaker 1: stuff from Davis. So here's what I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: it back to Kop's team. Guys, Parrol, I'm gonna throw
Speaker 1: this one to you first. I absolutely love waiting until
Speaker 1: round nine. And maybe this is because I'm a big
Speaker 1: Cardinals fan this year, at least for fantasy goes, But
Speaker 1: waiting until round nine to get the seventh quarterback off
Speaker 1: the board Kyler Murray, and then you follow that up
Speaker 1: with last year's QB four in Baker Mayfield. Now, I
Speaker 1: understand there's probably some regression coming from Mayfield. I understand
Speaker 1: that what he did from an efficiency standpoint last year
Speaker 1: is probably not going to be able to be duplicated
Speaker 1: or come close to be duplicated. But I still think
Speaker 1: he's good. And when you're taking him in the tenth round,
Speaker 1: I don't think it really matters. He doesn't have to
Speaker 1: be quarterback four at that point, he doesn't have to
Speaker 1: do what he did last year. And when you get
Speaker 1: Murray and Mayfield back to back in rounds nine and ten,
Speaker 1: as your one and two quarterbacks. I think that's fantastic
Speaker 1: drafting from Coop here tonight, Perrel.
Speaker 2: I understand Mayfield. I like it very very much. That's
Speaker 2: that's who I'm considered a number one quarterback. I'm still
Speaker 2: a mystery on Murray and even just laid in the draft.
Speaker 2: I like some of the other guys better, but Mayfield, Uh,
Speaker 2: who have who? In our f f PC main event,
Speaker 2: I've never been a drafter of you know, he's coming
Speaker 2: to his own and I was very pleased to see
Speaker 2: how he played last year.
Speaker 1: It's hurted three straight new offensive coordinators for for Tampa
Speaker 1: went from Canalis to Cohen and now to what's his name, Grizzard.
Speaker 1: I want to I want to say Gizzard King Wizard,
Speaker 1: Kris Wizard and the Gizzard Wizard. Yeah, he is going
Speaker 1: to be there. Any any concern about a third different
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator.
Speaker 6: For three concerned?
Speaker 4: I mean, but Baker Mayfield seems they have figured it
Speaker 4: out now in the NFL obviously I paid. You know,
Speaker 4: his career in Tampa has been a resurgence, great story
Speaker 4: overall because people hated him when he drafted it got
Speaker 4: drafted number one, totally flopped in the Browns really didn't
Speaker 4: figure it all out. But now he's a top ten
Speaker 4: quarterback in the league, no matter what anybody tries to
Speaker 4: tell you. And they have a ton of a ton
Speaker 4: of guys there a ton of weapons. Whether it's Guywan,
Speaker 4: whether it's Evans, whether it's a Mecca, whether it's Jayleen McMillan,
Speaker 4: whether it's Katt and Bucky Irving, Rashad White. That team
Speaker 4: is poised to make a run the defense holds up.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's hard to see. Will there be
Speaker 4: an aggression? Do I think he's gonna come in the
Speaker 4: top five this year now? But I still think he
Speaker 4: finishes comfortably in the top He's a QB one at
Speaker 4: the end of the season.
Speaker 2: Mike Evans is the best friend he's ever met in
Speaker 2: the Cup.
Speaker 4: He always finds a way to get him the ball.
Speaker 2: He's fantastic. Yeah, it's and you know Loug Koop's team
Speaker 2: the last player that he drafted Shaheed. You know we
Speaker 2: talk about spike players in Best Ball competition. Shaheed certainly
Speaker 2: fits that description.
Speaker 1: Guys, Terp, I have to ask you this because will
Speaker 1: Shipley has been picking up a lot of steam ever since.
Speaker 1: Like I would say, like Dynasty rookie draft season, I
Speaker 1: saw this guy available on a lot of waiver wires
Speaker 1: and people were scooping him up in the third and
Speaker 1: fourth rounds of rookie drafts. What do you make of
Speaker 1: Shipley in Philadelphia this year? And presented without context, I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna say Barkley was out of control with his
Speaker 1: usage last year and how much he had the shoulder.
Speaker 1: What do you how are you handling? You a guy
Speaker 1: who's who's definitely in touch with the Eagles more than
Speaker 1: anybody I know, How do you handle Will Shipley in drafts?
Speaker 4: Taking Will Shipley makes one hundred percent sense. You're looking
Speaker 4: for that high upside type of potential. You know, Barkley's
Speaker 4: usage last year was ridiculous, and let's just say that's notwithstandable.
Speaker 4: You know, it's not back to back years of that
Speaker 4: kind of us. This is not something we see that often.
Speaker 4: You know, there's definitely gonna some wear and Terry. He's
Speaker 4: getting up there in age. He just won a super Bowl,
Speaker 4: so you know the Super Bowl hangover quote unquote, Yeah,
Speaker 4: I know, Saquon Barkley's a different breed. He's a beast,
Speaker 4: and I get all that stuff. But I don't see
Speaker 4: the Eagles, especially early in the season, just absolutely killing
Speaker 4: him like they did last year. Shipley and the corpse
Speaker 4: of AJ Dillon is going to be around. I think
Speaker 4: Shipley has enough juice to take that job. There is
Speaker 4: a little bit of worry that they might add a
Speaker 4: veteran if he doesn't take it early enough, because you
Speaker 4: know Barkley, you know, the carries that he got last year,
Speaker 4: he's not getting this year. So I love Shipley this year.
Speaker 4: He's a guy that where he's being drafted, you know,
Speaker 4: right around these other guys, you know for Shot Smith,
Speaker 4: the Roshawn Johnson's they all have potential upside. These are
Speaker 4: the guys you should be taking these in these spots
Speaker 4: right here because hopefully nothing happens to stake Bon Barkley.
Speaker 4: But if for whatever reason it does, you're talking about
Speaker 4: the best offense in football getting a guy like Will Shipley,
Speaker 4: it could be a league winner type of situation. AJ
Speaker 4: Dillon ain't that guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know if AJ Dillon makes the
Speaker 1: team either too. That's the other time.
Speaker 4: That's what worries me, because if AJ Dillon doesn't make
Speaker 4: the team, there might be that veteran guy that the
Speaker 4: Eagles bring in as like the backup to Saquon Barkley
Speaker 4: if they don't think Shipley can handle the job. That's
Speaker 4: the worry with Chipley is he's just an afterthought because
Speaker 4: they bring in a veteran for nothing. Who gets cut.
Speaker 4: I can't think of anybody off the top of my head,
Speaker 4: but there's plenty of guys out there that makes sense
Speaker 4: that they could just put in there and Chipley gets
Speaker 4: pushed out. But I think he takes a job. I
Speaker 4: think he has enough juice to where it's worth where
Speaker 4: he's being drafted to take shots.
Speaker 1: This just in spotted at a local cheese steak joint
Speaker 1: in downtown Philly was Leonard Fournette tonight. So you never know.
Speaker 4: Anything, Big Lenny, Big Lenny.
Speaker 1: I want to get to our next guest before we do. Uh,
Speaker 1: let me let me throw this at you. Farrell team
Speaker 1: one who auto drafted the first three picks, which we
Speaker 1: didn't care about because we thought they were strong picks there.
Speaker 1: But then they they got in and they have drafted
Speaker 1: a team where they didn't take a tight end until
Speaker 1: round eleven, but now they have three of them on
Speaker 1: their squad. You got Darren Waller, who is taking the
Speaker 1: place of JANEU Smith in my you have Elijah Royal
Speaker 1: who is now the beneficiary of a Seattle tight end
Speaker 1: room that no longer has no offen, and now zach Ertz,
Speaker 1: who's competing with a somewhat underwhelming ben Sonnatt so far.
Speaker 1: And I know sinats young and this could be a
Speaker 1: big leap forward for him. But with the McLaurin contract
Speaker 1: situation going on right now, if Fat Deebo shows up
Speaker 1: in Washington this year, maybe Ertz is gonna be worth
Speaker 1: more than what a lot of people are projecting here. Pharaoh,
Speaker 1: what do you make of Team one not taking a
Speaker 1: tight end until round eleven? But now having Waller, a
Speaker 1: Royal and Ertz in that.
Speaker 2: Room, it wouldn't be my strategy that I like what
Speaker 2: they came up with. And you know I talked about
Speaker 2: having four tight ends. If I'm ever in this situation,
Speaker 2: let me see your fourth guy, Fellas. But you know,
Speaker 2: zach Ertz did more last year than what we expected
Speaker 2: him to do, and that's gonna have to happen here again.
Speaker 2: Rookie tight ends is not anywhere I want to I
Speaker 2: want to put my eggs in that basket and God
Speaker 2: blessed Aarren Waller. That's that's definitely a shake up the
Speaker 2: dice and make a long shot bet.
Speaker 1: The person we want to bring on right now just
Speaker 1: made a pick of Sam Darnold in the fifteenth round.
Speaker 1: He's going to be up again here fairly quickly. You
Speaker 1: read all of his work on Rodoballer dot com. This
Speaker 1: is a guy who's been around the industry forever. He
Speaker 1: has forgotten more about fantasy football than I'll ever know.
Speaker 1: The first time the FSWA did a Hall of Fame induction,
Speaker 1: he was part of that class. This is a guy
Speaker 1: that you hear him on Serious X on Fantasy Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: You read his work on the Athletic as well. You
Speaker 1: follow him on the X at Scott E.
Speaker 2: The King.
Speaker 1: Mister Scott Engel from Rotoballer joining us tonight, Scott, Good
Speaker 1: evening and welcome. How you doing.
Speaker 13: Good to see you, my friend, Thanks for having me
Speaker 13: and good to be on with you.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 1: Well, we are excited to have you on fifteen rounds
Speaker 1: in What do you make of your team from the
Speaker 1: ten spot?
Speaker 13: My friend, I'm just you know, I got the two
Speaker 13: running backs I like for most upside. Uh, but I
Speaker 13: wanted to give one one of the top four quarterbacks.
Speaker 13: I was gonna get him, and I connected Daniels with McLaurin.
Speaker 13: I'm noticing in a lot of drafts that you know,
Speaker 13: you have real value on rookies. So I like some
Speaker 13: of the value that I've gotten on rookies, and I
Speaker 13: still have some of my queue.
Speaker 1: So you're on the clock shortly. You're on deck right now,
Speaker 1: Rob Thomasino's gonna be picking right now. You already have
Speaker 1: two quarterbacks in your squad. You have the three tight
Speaker 1: ends that we talked about earlier. You have six receivers,
Speaker 1: four running backs. You are now on the clock. Scott,
Speaker 1: take us through the thought process of your sixteen oh
Speaker 1: three pick.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 13: Uh sixteen oh three maybe just best player left on
Speaker 13: the board. And uh, right, but right now, I do
Speaker 13: have DeAndre Swift, who I believe is gonna be ticketed
Speaker 13: for a big year or so I'm gonna take the
Speaker 13: rookie running back that's that's gonna back him up just
Speaker 13: in case, because I think he could be a goal
Speaker 13: line guy and maybe go ahead of Roshawn Johnson there.
Speaker 1: So Johnson ends up going in the fourteenth round, Scott,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious if Johnson would have been there.
Speaker 1: If you had your choice between Johnson and Manongay, would
Speaker 1: you have still a picked manong guy?
Speaker 13: Yeah, because again, you guys know this is high stakes.
Speaker 13: You gotta know what upside. Moshawn Johnson doesn't have any
Speaker 13: fantasy upside Monga guy does. So every time, you know,
Speaker 13: I get into a best ball, you know, like this,
Speaker 13: you know you really got to swing for the fences.
Speaker 13: So I know some people didn't like my Cendric Tilvin
Speaker 13: pick in the tenth round in the chat room, and
Speaker 13: I appreciate them comment, you know, good or bad, but
Speaker 13: you know, to me, he had the most upside if
Speaker 13: any player I wanted at that point. And you know,
Speaker 13: you just got to tune out what people say, although
Speaker 13: you respect it.
Speaker 1: Scott Engel, who who had a former top twenty overall
Speaker 1: finish and pros versus Joe's in twenty twenty three, looking
Speaker 1: for bigger and better things here this season, and you
Speaker 1: know you talk about upside, Well, there's some upside with
Speaker 1: this Washington connection that you had drafted in the third round.
Speaker 2: Here you end up getting McLaurin at the three ten.
Speaker 1: You pair him with Jayden Daniels at the four h three. Scott,
Speaker 1: was that part of the thought process, like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: get McLaurin here and I'm gonna grab Daniels on the
Speaker 1: turn to get this this stack going right away? Was
Speaker 1: that what you were thinking.
Speaker 13: I wasn't actively thinking of this because it's any good
Speaker 13: drafter and everybody here, especially in the chat room, good drafters.
Speaker 13: You know you have to go with the flow. I
Speaker 13: wanted mclauren. There are some people down on McLaurin. It
Speaker 13: doesn't make sense to me. He's coming off his best
Speaker 13: season playing as with the best quarterback of his career.
Speaker 13: And I said, look, I know I never get sniped, okay,
Speaker 13: because I'm always ready with like three or four guys.
Speaker 13: So look my guy, because I got four or five
Speaker 13: of them sitting there. And so I said, if Daniels
Speaker 13: is there when I come around, I'm going to take
Speaker 13: him because the top two quarterbacks are already gone. And
Speaker 13: if I can walk myself into a connection there, I will.
Speaker 13: If it doesn't happen, I'll pivot to another direction.
Speaker 2: I like your tight end selections here that obviously you
Speaker 2: like big athletic tight ends all these guys have a
Speaker 2: great deal in common, and I'm impressed with that group.
Speaker 2: I wonder if you were tempted we just finished talking
Speaker 2: about Ertz. I wonder if you were ever tempted to
Speaker 2: add Ertz since you were building this Washington stack. So
Speaker 2: I was just curious about that.
Speaker 13: Not really because at this point, you know, I appreciate
Speaker 13: your comment, you know, knowing the good reputation you do have. Well,
Speaker 13: Zach Art, there's not upside to me. You know, it's
Speaker 13: this guy like he's admirably he is an NFL player,
Speaker 13: still going towards the end of his career. But you know,
Speaker 13: I went Tucker Craft, who could break out? Brighton Strange
Speaker 13: could be a sleeper and there's still one tight end
Speaker 13: I haven't like you that nobody took yet. Maybe he's
Speaker 13: a lace sleeper.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, Scott, I want to bring this up because
Speaker 1: we haven't talked about this at all, and I was
Speaker 1: thinking about this today and maybe I'm just overrating it.
Speaker 1: What do you make of this Ricky Piersoll injury strain
Speaker 1: the handstring in May. Now he's on the the acted
Speaker 1: NFI list or whatever, which he can be taken off
Speaker 1: at any time. I know it's still July twentieth, But
Speaker 1: this is an injury that happened like two months ago.
Speaker 1: You drafted him in the seventh round tonight, So it
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like you're concerned with this hamstring at all
Speaker 1: from peersaw.
Speaker 13: No, because you know it's it's still July. He's got
Speaker 13: a lot of time to recover. Even this early, you're
Speaker 13: gonna see people getting bumped down because of injuries and
Speaker 13: potential suspensions, and that's where you get value.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 13: I think it's between Piersoll and Jennings to really prove themselves.
Speaker 13: Y Auk is out and one of them is gonna
Speaker 13: get pushed forward more based on how they do early
Speaker 13: in the season, and it's either gonna be Pier Sola Jennings.
Speaker 13: It will get played out on the field.
Speaker 1: Talking with Scott Engel, you can read his work at Rotoball,
Speaker 1: or you hear him on Sirius X and Fantasy Sports
Speaker 1: Radio and check out his work on the Athletic as well.
Speaker 1: As he is drafting tonight, ladies and gentlemen from the
Speaker 1: ten spot next to Rob Thomasino and Bob Bana Pone
Speaker 1: the FFPC, Joe's drafting their Scott is drafting right between him.
Speaker 1: You're coming up on your seventeenth round pick. Brenton Strange
Speaker 1: and Travis Hunter interesting Jacksonville players there. How does Strange
Speaker 1: fit in with Thomas and Hunter this year?
Speaker 2: Scott?
Speaker 13: I think you know the other guys are spectacular downfield players.
Speaker 13: This is somebody Trevor Lawrence has to do it this
Speaker 13: year because if he doesn't do it this year, is.
Speaker 2: Never gonna do it.
Speaker 13: So, you know, Strange is the guy that I think
Speaker 13: may them comfortable say, Okay, we don't need to have
Speaker 13: an ingram. He showed us enough and you got to
Speaker 13: have you know, every good quarterback's got to have a
Speaker 13: reliable chain over, and I think that's the kind of
Speaker 13: guy that's Strange is.
Speaker 1: Mh which makes which makes perfect sense at least to me. Here, guys,
Speaker 1: we are coming up on our Scott, we're coming up
Speaker 1: on your pick. Here, it looks like you are in
Speaker 1: the hole right now. A well balanced team. How important
Speaker 1: is balance in a competition like this where granted you're
Speaker 1: going for first place, so you can be heavy and
Speaker 1: strong in one area and that can't carry you. But
Speaker 1: I don't know, sometimes I like to be balanced. So
Speaker 1: when the value falls to me, I can grab it.
Speaker 1: Do you ever think about that?
Speaker 13: I certainly think about balance because because and here comes
Speaker 13: to tight end that I was talking about that, I
Speaker 13: have Hulster. Uh, let me just take him right there, Okay,
Speaker 13: THEO Johnson and yeah, and uh that's my fourth tight end.
Speaker 13: What you said about you lik and have four t
Speaker 13: I exactly agree with you. I agree with you. Yeah,
Speaker 13: I like to have balance because you never know who's
Speaker 13: gonna get injured. Uh, and you got to take the
Speaker 13: best players available for upside periods. So I agree with you.
Speaker 13: You know, when I when I'm drafting, I carefully evaluate
Speaker 13: balance throughout and talking about how I never get sniped.
Speaker 13: I know it's arrogant, but it's just the truth. I
Speaker 13: had Roman Wilson and THEO Johnson and Mike Queue, and
Speaker 13: when Wilson got taken right ahead of me, I didn't say, oh,
Speaker 13: you took my guy right ahead and took THEO Johnson
Speaker 13: because I couldn't decide between the two of them. And
Speaker 13: sometimes the person ahead of you help helps you make
Speaker 13: the decision.
Speaker 2: And somewhere all the fantasy sopranos are smiling, Yes.
Speaker 1: Exactly as as THEO Johnson that Steve already made it clear.
Speaker 1: I Steve already posted in the chat with Theo Johnson
Speaker 1: and I said, Steve, I know you're not in this draft,
Speaker 1: but somehow I thought you would still find a way
Speaker 1: to draft Leo Johnson here tonight. Didn't happen because Scott
Speaker 1: got him. The King Scott angele Scott. If anybody wants
Speaker 1: to read more of what you're doing or listen to you,
Speaker 1: where what's the schedule like for you right now? For
Speaker 1: football season?
Speaker 13: Betting stuff? You can find on Advanced Local, which is
Speaker 13: New Jersey dot com, Cleveland dot com, Al dot com,
Speaker 13: Oregon Live, Uh, get around, et cetera. Uh just want
Speaker 13: to take my next pick here fire This upside rookie
Speaker 13: from the Titans could end up to be a staughter'
Speaker 13: That's what I'm saying about rookies. You know you could
Speaker 13: just pick them off late. So Advance Local also post
Speaker 13: Roodobowler dot com, where I've been for seven years and
Speaker 13: I love it. Uh the Athletic. I've been the official
Speaker 13: fantasy rider for Seahawks dot Com, the official side of
Speaker 13: the Sea Hawks, since twenty twelve, so you can always
Speaker 13: come to me with Seahawk questions. If anybody has any
Speaker 13: and also serious XM Fantasy Sports Radio Wednesday mornings six
Speaker 13: to seven am and Sundays four to six pm.
Speaker 2: Do you like the Seahawks rookie tight end?
Speaker 13: I like him a lot. There's some talk about maybe
Speaker 13: splitting him out as an X receiver, A lot of
Speaker 13: people asking, oh, with JSN and Cup, you know who's
Speaker 13: gonna play on the outside. You know, you look at
Speaker 13: the Rams past offenses. They run a lot to the inside.
Speaker 13: You know, you could see Royo on the outside with
Speaker 13: Marquez Valdez scantling. You know, I think they're gonna do
Speaker 13: some interesting stuff Offensively. He's in great prospects. He's just
Speaker 13: gotta stay healthy.
Speaker 2: Do you play the auction format at all?
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 14: I didn't last year, but I definitely enjoy it. I
Speaker 14: can see you being hell in the auction format. I
Speaker 14: guess that was yeah. You shake things up very quickly.
Speaker 13: Then, well, I do a lot of baseball actions, so
Speaker 13: football comes naturally to me.
Speaker 2: Scott.
Speaker 1: Final question Sean Green and the YouTube chat. AJ Barner
Speaker 1: at tight end obviously probably the second guy to Arroyo
Speaker 1: right now. Anything with him for fantasy this year that
Speaker 1: we need to be knowing.
Speaker 13: About super deep Sleeper maybe to watch you know, a Royo. Unfortunately,
Speaker 13: durability is an issue, but I think they release fan
Speaker 13: because they really like what A Royal showed them last season. So,
Speaker 13: you know, deep Sleeper, you want to you want to
Speaker 13: take him in a very deep draft like this one.
Speaker 13: You know, I'm totally fine with it.
Speaker 1: We are always totally fine with any advice, fantasy betting
Speaker 1: whatever from Scott the King Angle the King of Queens
Speaker 1: of New York joining us tonight here que there you go.
Speaker 1: Absolutely yeah, Scott E the King on X. We will
Speaker 1: continue to listen to you on Serious X. Check out
Speaker 1: everything you're doing for Advanced Local Rotoballer and of course
Speaker 1: the Seahawks website as well. Be good, my friend. Enjoy
Speaker 1: it the rest of the way and we'll talk with
Speaker 1: you again real soon.
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 2: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 13: I'll be in FFPC Dynasty Player probably for the next
Speaker 13: seventy years.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Scott. We appreciate that. That is
Speaker 1: Scott Engel the King from Rodo Baller. Tonight, guys, I
Speaker 1: want to get into one final guest here tonight and
Speaker 1: did we save the best for last? I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: rank him, but I'm just gonna tell you that this
Speaker 1: guy has won one hundred and sixty two FFPC leagues
Speaker 1: over the course of his career. That is one, that
Speaker 1: is six, that is two. I've done a few shows
Speaker 1: at them over the years. A really talented guy, a
Speaker 1: really smart guy, and he's going to class up the
Speaker 1: joint for the last couple of rounds. Here, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: please welcome in drafting from the three spot tonight, the one,
Speaker 1: the only, the Pride of Canada. Joe Van Go, Joe,
Speaker 1: welcome in tonight. Man.
Speaker 2: Hey, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys, missus, this is exciting to have you on always
Speaker 1: and we get you when you're on the clock here
Speaker 1: to take us. Tell us what you're doing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess so.
Speaker 6: I'm between well a couple wide receivers here, so I'm
Speaker 6: just gonna rip it on one of these three guys,
Speaker 6: double check if there's a stock available. There is not,
Speaker 6: so mhmm. We're on the clock, We're on live. Let's
Speaker 6: take Brown.
Speaker 1: I love that I've been drafting Dianmi Brown a lot
Speaker 1: in basket balls this year. I think he's an underrated
Speaker 1: player for sure. We'll talk about him in a second, Joe,
Speaker 1: let's let's wide scope your team so far. You end
Speaker 1: up going with Barkley at the three. Obviously a hotly
Speaker 1: contested offense that we talked about tonight. We're the Philadelphia Eagles.
Speaker 1: You show no fear, which is I think the way
Speaker 1: to draft. In drafting Barkley at the three, you know
Speaker 1: the workload concerns, but you also realize that this could
Speaker 1: be a potential league winner even at the one oh three. Tonight,
Speaker 1: how difficult of a decision was it to say I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take Barkley over Beijon Robinson here.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that was actually a tough decision, but in the end,
Speaker 6: I had to stick to what I think is most likely,
Speaker 6: and I just think the Eagles are gonna likely win,
Speaker 6: you know, between like twelve and fifteen games, and they're
Speaker 6: going to be a dominant force. Again. Offensive line is strong,
Speaker 6: Saikwon Barkley doesn't look like he's lost any steps, so
Speaker 6: I'm of course banking on him being healthy. But I
Speaker 6: think you could point at most running backs in this
Speaker 6: range and if if they get hurt, you're going to
Speaker 6: be in trouble regardless. So I'm going to go with
Speaker 6: Saikwon Barkley there.
Speaker 1: Joe Sag your first running back obviously Barkley. Your second
Speaker 1: one was Breece Hall, and we've seen a bit of
Speaker 1: bounce back in ADP with Brice Hall lately. Can you
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about what you see happening in
Speaker 1: New York this year? Is it Okham's rains or sort
Speaker 1: of like how you described like most obvious answer is
Speaker 1: Hall leading them in touches, leading them in carries, and
Speaker 1: Isaiah Davis and Braylan Allen are sort of afterthoughts what
Speaker 1: kind of a year is Breece halland for in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty five with a new head coach, offensive coordinator, and quarterback.
Speaker 6: I would like to think Davis as an after I
Speaker 6: do like Braylan Allen as a young running back in
Speaker 6: Dynasty especially, But I do think Bryce Hall has the
Speaker 6: explosiveness to potentially lead the league in rushing if he
Speaker 6: gets enough carries. Potentially he has that corollary with the
Speaker 6: quarterback who creates the rushing threat that opens up the
Speaker 6: rushing lanes. I think in the third round here you're
Speaker 6: baking in the risk of the Jets offense not being
Speaker 6: all that good. And I also think Hall's pass catching profile.
Speaker 6: While maybe fields may or may not throw it to
Speaker 6: him as much as I'd like, I do think his
Speaker 6: history of catching balls is really strong and he could
Speaker 6: be a great checkdown option for fields as well.
Speaker 1: Joe, you drafted Laporte in the fifth round. I believe
Speaker 1: you were the second team to double up at the position.
Speaker 1: You end up taking Dalton Kincaid as the tight end
Speaker 1: twelve here tonight. This was at the eight ten. Why
Speaker 1: did you feel the need number one to double up
Speaker 1: on tight ends within the first eight rounds and then
Speaker 1: number two to make Dalton Kinkaid your second guy.
Speaker 6: Well, I probably didn't like my other options at running
Speaker 6: back and wide receiver when I made the choice. I
Speaker 6: do like Dalton Kincaid given that I don't see a
Speaker 6: whole lot other you know, other real threats in Buffalo.
Speaker 6: I think Kincaid has a room to improve. I think
Speaker 6: he was hurt last year and he does have the
Speaker 6: profile to potentially take a big step forward. He was
Speaker 6: being drafted and I think the second third round last
Speaker 6: year like really high and I think his upside is
Speaker 6: bigger than where I got him here, so I was
Speaker 6: happy to pick him, especially in a best ball league.
Speaker 6: I don't have to decide what weeks to play him,
Speaker 6: and I do think the Bills are going to run
Speaker 6: the ball a lot and that'll be problematic for Kincaid.
Speaker 6: But I think that's priced in here.
Speaker 2: There's nowhere to go but up, and you're right, it's
Speaker 2: priced in.
Speaker 4: I couldn't get any worse than last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, right man, dead right. The proverbial dead
Speaker 2: camp bounced. Joe Vango will come.
Speaker 1: Here, Joe, the first nine rounds, you were SAMs quarterback.
Speaker 1: At the point you drafted Fields in the tenth round.
Speaker 1: Here at the ten ten, did you you made up
Speaker 1: your mind like, Okay, I'm drafting Fields here. I'm going
Speaker 1: to get at least two more guys.
Speaker 6: I do lean late round quarterback once we get to
Speaker 6: the tenth. I have a bit of a bias towards Fields.
Speaker 6: I've been a big fan of his in Dynasty. I
Speaker 6: had too much of him, unfortunately as value dropped. But
Speaker 6: he's had a bounce back, obviously signing with the Jets
Speaker 6: and having at least hopefully a one year window to
Speaker 6: reprove himself. He's proven to be a great fantasy asset,
Speaker 6: not a great real life quarterback asset. But I'm hoping
Speaker 6: he can figure that out. But in this case, I
Speaker 6: think he's going to get hopefully seventeen starts, and we've
Speaker 6: seen what he does when he starts. He runs the
Speaker 6: ball a lot, he can scramble for big touchdowns, and
Speaker 6: he creates big plays out of nothing. You almost hope
Speaker 6: he settles down a little bit from that townpoint in Dynasty,
Speaker 6: But for this particular league, I'm just hoping he gives
Speaker 6: me twelve great startuple weeks.
Speaker 1: Here, Joe, the pick of Brandon Ayuk in the eleventh round,
Speaker 1: what's your expectations? What are you going to get out
Speaker 1: of that pick? When does that start paying off?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it week five? Is it week eight? Is it later?
Speaker 1: Obviously I think you're a little bit more bullish than
Speaker 1: on Ayuk that I am, but maybe rightfully. So what's
Speaker 1: your expectation for what type of season he's going to
Speaker 1: have coming off this injury?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was a conversation earlier, of course about Jennings
Speaker 6: against pearsall. I feel like in the eleventh round I
Speaker 6: could easily out, you know, outshoot both of those guys
Speaker 6: once he comes back. I've heard conflicting things over the
Speaker 6: last couple of months through the summer, heard a couple
Speaker 6: of really positive reports, heard plenty of negative ones. Not
Speaker 6: sure what to believe exactly, but I do believe in
Speaker 6: Ayuk's talent. Again, from a dynasty standpoint, I think he's
Speaker 6: a really talented player, and I don't think that you know, Jennings,
Speaker 6: while he was fantastic last year, he doesn't have the pedigree.
Speaker 6: And with Piersall there's the injury history or the recent
Speaker 6: injury history, I mean more more more concerning. And then
Speaker 6: also so the question about whether he's actually good or not.
Speaker 6: So I think I've proven that he's a good player,
Speaker 6: and he was one of the most improved players from
Speaker 6: when he came out. He got benched right away and
Speaker 6: then he ended up earning the coaches trust, and I
Speaker 6: think he's actually a really good player. So if he's healthy,
Speaker 6: I think he's a pretty good bet to actually score
Speaker 6: more points than the other two guys.
Speaker 1: So the other thing I want to ask you about
Speaker 1: regarding the Cleveland running back situation. Tonight we talked about
Speaker 1: Dylan Samson. He went in the eleventh round. Tonight, you
Speaker 1: get your own board in the fifteenth what's your best
Speaker 1: guess on how this again. If there's anything more confusing
Speaker 1: about the Browns and their quarterback situation, it's now their
Speaker 1: running back situation because of Judkins. How is this going
Speaker 1: to work out? What are you foreseeing this season and
Speaker 1: how you're handling the Browns running backs at the moment.
Speaker 6: It's definitely confusing. I kept watching Judkins fall and even
Speaker 6: as soon as a week ago, I would have probably
Speaker 6: picked him a round or two sooner. Now things to
Speaker 6: just seem to be so unclear about where he's going
Speaker 6: to land.
Speaker 2: Sampson.
Speaker 6: I like his profile, good speed, good profile, content, We
Speaker 6: can catch the ball a little bit. I think he's
Speaker 6: got some talent and he could potentially break out. But
Speaker 6: Jerome Ford is kind of like old reliable. He's been
Speaker 6: on the team. He can catch the ball. He's a
Speaker 6: guy that the coaches trust, and given the uncertainty with
Speaker 6: the rookies, I could see him starting the year and
Speaker 6: even playing eight to twelve games as sort of the
Speaker 6: you know, fifty five percent guy, and that would be
Speaker 6: huge in the fifteenth rounds. So even if he's getting
Speaker 6: thirty to forty percent of the touches, you know, over
Speaker 6: the course of the season, scores me some touchdowns, and
Speaker 6: at that point in the draft, I think he's a
Speaker 6: pretty good value.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the draft, it has come to an end
Speaker 1: with Joe Van Goo utilizing his final pick on Colt's
Speaker 1: wide receiver Alec Pierce. A good best ball choice here tonight,
Speaker 1: especially if if we get anything out of the quarterback
Speaker 1: position in Indianapolis that could pay off in spades. Joe,
Speaker 1: this this is so great that you joined us tonight.
Speaker 1: Congratulations on another successful draft. Are we going to see
Speaker 1: you out in Paris in Vegas this this fall in September?
Speaker 6: It looks that way. Yeah, unless something pops up with work,
Speaker 6: I should be there. Yeah, yes, exactly, trust me, I'm
Speaker 6: avoiding those as much as.
Speaker 2: It could be the best draft draft in the room too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it could be, could be my marriage anniversary. Otherwise
Speaker 6: I want to be in Vegas, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not much is going to get in the way
Speaker 2: of that.
Speaker 1: Joe, Thanks a lot, man, Best of luck to you
Speaker 1: the rest of the drafting season, and we'll see in September.
Speaker 2: Dude, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Guys appreciate it absolutely. That's Joe van Go. Ladies, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: the one hundred and sixty two time FFPC champion, and
Speaker 1: I'm not making that number up. I went out and
Speaker 1: counted myself.
Speaker 2: I made sure of it, guys, Canadian numbers, that's true, yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: We have come to the end of night two of
Speaker 1: Pros versus Joe's and this is a bloodbath tonight. I mean,
Speaker 1: Adam Hahn was talking about this like we got to
Speaker 1: give updates on this specific league throughout the season. It
Speaker 1: was a fun one. It was cutthroat, was awesome. It
Speaker 1: was everything we wanted it to be. And if there's
Speaker 1: any draft that could top it, it might be tomorrow's.
Speaker 1: And I know I'll have you guys at my side
Speaker 1: here for tomorrow night's draft as well. Until then, kfffc
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Speaker 1: Football State Championships at Dave Turp on the X for
Speaker 1: the fourteen time FFPC League winner there as well. Guys,
Speaker 1: excellent analysis, great job tonight. Let's do this again at
Speaker 1: ten o'clock Eastern time tomorrow.
Speaker 2: See you guys. You got it.
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Speaker 1: my best friend Bryce, and of course most of all
Speaker 1: all our listeners, all our viewers. Tonight coming up tomorrow,
Speaker 1: we will go one hour later. This is a ten
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern start. The Joes will feature Drew and Josh Macelli,
Speaker 1: John Zeleski, Rob Vieira another really talented drafter. Go Bills
Speaker 1: is drafting Nick Costantino and Sean Stutzman, Ben and Randall
Speaker 1: Hook and of course Dan a motto. That is a
Speaker 1: really really strong class of Joe's drafting tomorrow. The pros
Speaker 1: are going to have their work cutout for him, but
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Speaker 1: Frames I've drafted against her. It's no picnic. She's not
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Speaker 1: be drafting. And then the final pro one of the
Speaker 1: more decorated ones in pros versus Joe's history, my former
Speaker 1: Scott Fishbowl partner Matt Schauf from Draft Sharks. This thought
Speaker 1: tonight was a bloodbath. Tomorrow night it's going to be
Speaker 1: cutthroat as all get out, so check that out. Tomorrow night.
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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. Everybody, really appreciate each
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Speaker 3: This has been another episode of the Hot Stakes Fantasy
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