Speaker 1: Yo, what is up?
Speaker 2: Boys?
Speaker 1: How's it going? And welcome back to another episode of
the One Piece Virgin Podcast. Today we're covering saba Odie,
one of my favorite arcs with the One Piece Virgin herself,
Poseidon mythold, what's up? Gamer?
Speaker 3: Hi?
Speaker 1: Hello, and oh dear Lord. This was a crazy oh
dear Lord. And we have Jordan the anime dude, what's up? Gamer?
Speaker 3: What's up? Everybody? Happy to be here? I'm excited for
this one.
Speaker 1: As am I as am? I? All right, Poseidon? General thoughts,
how you're feeling?
Speaker 2: I think this is probably God. This was just such
a good arc, and I kind of wish it was longer,
but I think I should be thanking that for not
being as long. Yeah, but the absolute Lord drops we got,
oh my god during this arc is insane.
Speaker 1: Well, I could tell you liked it, considering Poseidon messages us.
We just did an episode and she was like, hey,
do you want to do another episode this week because
I already finished Sabodi however many days later, so I
feel like you saw some shit go down. You're like,
all right, I guess I'm finishing the whole arc.
Speaker 2: No, that's literally what happened, because I was gonna appropriately
pace myself for like the next two weeks, like Okay,
I'm gonna watch this many episodes a day, you know,
it's just so it's leading up, and then one day,
the next day, and then the day after that, I'm like,
oh crap, I'm finished. Oh we didn't even keep draft
of it. But yeah, no, this was a very very
very solid arc. I'd honestly put it up there because
I consider Water seven and Any's Lobby like for me,
like I kind of bundle them together, this would probably
be number two for me. I thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Speaker 1: Hell, that's awesome. So I know, like I've mentioned, like
I love Alabasta, I love Water seven and n is Lobby,
and I feel like those are the arcs that get
people into One Piece and they're fantastic, right, Yes, But
I will say this little next stream of a couple
arcs are some of my favorite portion of one Piece,
Like after the end of Thriller Mark and going into
the next two to three arcs are probably I honestly, like,
I mean, we're leading up to my favorite arc and
on the One Piece, so I'm excited.
Speaker 3: As much as I love One Piece, it's pretty formulaic
up to this point. Like I said, they go to
New Island, they do stuff on island, they move on
to next island, repeate, right, Like it's kind of the
the thing that they do. And this is kind of
I think the end of just classic One Piece as
we know it up to this point, right, That's true.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I was kind of discussing it with
some of my friends because some of my IRF friends
are super into One Piece, and they actually like they
were like, Poseidon, please save the last five episodes for us.
So I had, like my friends come over and we
all watched the end of Saba Odie together and I
was like just enamored they go. But I was telling them,
I'm like, I don't think One Piece is going to
be the same after this arc. I don't think it's
going to be like the same vibe. It's not gonna
you know, it's just not gonna be the same.
Speaker 1: It does. It does get more serious as times time
goes on, for sure, but you always have the gags
and buy serious. I mean the most important part of
this savad Let's cover Duval and his amazing face.
Speaker 2: Yes, the most lovely Duvall. So we start the arc off,
you know, the the straw Hats are on their way
to Fishman Island and they run into a mermaid named
Kamie Cammymie and her little starfish friend Popiga Papa Papa Goo.
There we go and uh, they are looking for their
friend hat Chan hat Chichi Hai Tea. And this is
a very familiar character because Hachi was on the on
the same crew as are Long. Yeah, so we have
Nami here who's kind of having conflicting feelings on how
to feel about him, you kind of see here go
we should save him or I don't really forgive him
because you know, he was part of the whole thing
that happened and in her town.
Speaker 1: So yes, that's why I brought it up last week.
Hachi wasn't in the live action and as you can see,
he is a relevant character.
Speaker 2: Yes see, he actually plays quite a role in this
in this arc. So we come up. We find that
Hachi has been captured to a group of people who
are human traffickers ye, who are intending to sell him,
and they are looking for Kamie because they want to
kidnap and se tell her. Because mermaids go for a
lot of money.
Speaker 1: This arc is fucked up.
Speaker 2: It's really, Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Even prior to Kmie being kidnapped, we do have a
scene where we meet a celestial dragon for the first time,
if you want to talk about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, gosh, I don't.
Speaker 1: So which one Carlos was like walking down the street
on top of a human and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, actually, oh that's a little bit farther in yet.
Oh sorry, Yeah, yeah, I was like which one. I
was like, Okay, that was a whole I have feelings
about that part. It's like this whole arc. I think
the one word I could describe myself just watching this
was just upset. I was just so so upset throughout
the entire arc. Even a little bit something happened there
that made me upset.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but prior to that, at least they got to
go to the amusement park. You got, and there's there's everything. Half, but.
Speaker 2: I was sure to find my way back to her, Yes,
you handsome mister. Yes, we get a little bit of
like a lore not lord drop, but kind of a
connection to a past moment that have happened. So if
you guys remember there Sanji's wanted poster did not look
exactly like Sanji, and we come to find out it
looks a lot like new Ball, who looks like Sanji
but not as handsome. So basically what happened was when
Sonji's a wanted poster went out, people started going after Duval,
so he was forced to kind of wear a mask
and run from the government. So Duval's very very angry
with Sanchi and is blaming him for all of his misfortunes.
So we get this fight, and something happens during this fight,
specifically between Duval and Loofy. So Duval rides on this
little ox guy and Lufy will he puts his hand
out or like says stop or something, and then the
ox just falls over, like there was a change in
the atmosphere, and nobody knows what happened. They're like, what,
how did he do that? The animal's obeying to him.
That's weird. So there was a whole sequence. Sonji fights
him and the straw Hats get Hatchy, and you kind
of get this scene or they're kind of sailing away,
Hanchi's making them food. Nammy is kind of still kind
of grumbling a little bit, and we find Duval kind
of coming after them, but not for the reasons you
think he's coming after them. He had come to the
straw Hat Ship to thank Soanjy because Sonjy beat him
up so bad and it reconfigured his face to be
super handsome. Yes, so Soanjy he has that win. That
wink is so the wink is iconic.
Speaker 1: I love. The beginning of this arc is just such
a meme. It's like, unseerious, let's go save this this
fishman friend of mine. It ends up being hotchy and
the guy takes off his mask and it just looks
like Sonjy's drawn wanted poster. And then it's just like
even Duval goes to thank him afterwards, and his accent
has changed, his personality has changed now, and everyone's just
like this leave, we don't want anything to do with it.
Getting out of here, like everyone is so just interested.
Speaker 3: It was Yeah, He's.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm gonna go get the ladies, and they're like,
all right, go leave the ladies. Yeah. So they start
trying to sail to saba Odie Archipelago, Yeah, which is
a it's kind of like in the Red Line, right,
It's like after Saba Odi it is now like the
New World, So you have to go through here in
order to be able to move forward.
Speaker 1: Yeah, essentially, it's either you go over the red line
and abandon your ship or you go to saba Odie,
which is not even an island. It's a bunch of
like roots and like bubbles and stuff, and you go
there coat your ship, and you have to go to
Fishman Island, which is essentially very very I don't know
exact the depth exactly, like.
Speaker 3: Three thousand feet I think below or something like. It's
really the opposite of what Skyland was.
Speaker 1: Exactly, or like ten ten thousands down below the red
line and you go onunderneath and this is like the
more dangerous route ten thousand kilometers let's go metric system
that I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they are trying to find the person to
to coat the ship so that way they are able
to go kind of under and we find that saba
od is a collection of like little grove little islands
are all numbered and there's like little sections. There's like
the hotel section. There's like this section where there's like
a little more dangerous activity going on, the amusement park,
shopping like just stuff like that, and uh, we see Hatchie.
He warns everybody. He is like, no matter what you do,
do not interfere with the celestial dragons, even if they
kill somebody. Just look away, walk away and pretend it
didn't happen. So I at this point of the arc
was like, yeah, that's not happening. Especially with Loofy. I
was like, that is that is absolutely not going to happen.
But yeah, especially because Loofy is a very very he
doesn't stand for shit like that. So we kind of
see the group kind of split in their own ways.
You see Zoro go kind of go on a solo
mission and it's so funny because they parked at like
Grove forty one and they were like, Zoro, don't get lost.
He's like, I'm not gonna get lost. And he looks
over at like the little tree with the number on
it and there's like a bubble covering the four and
he goes, all right, the ship is at Grove one.
It's what. He's such an idiot. I love him.
Speaker 3: My favorite part of this arc is just Zoro is
still kind of going off to his own shenanigans. The
crew still treating it like a classical ark where they
all just kind of separate there at the start.
Speaker 2: You also see Hotch kind of cover up his little tattoo,
his son pirates tattoo, and you see Kamie she has
to kind of wear a skirt to cover her fins,
and you gotta like, Lufy's like, why do you guys
have to do that? And they were like, don't worry
about it. So you see like they're going on like
a little adventure kind of touring the area. They get
to eat, they go get these like little bikes that
are made with like the bubbles, and you kinda see
them kind of relaxing, and there's a group of another
group of human traffickers who get a glimpse of Kami
and they see that she is actually a mermaid because
one of her fins kind of popped out for a
little bit. So you kind of have these group of
people going after her now. So they go to the
amusement park because Loofy just wants to have fun. He's
like in a new area. He's like, let's just have fun,
eat ice cream. So you get this sequence of all right,
we are gonna go ride all these rides and when
nobody when nobody is looking. Kamie gets kidnapped.
Speaker 1: Yeah. The reasoning is, yeah, we got distracted by the
ice cream.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was literally what it was. I think I
actually glossed over another part that I'm kind of going
all over the place. But we get to find out
that Zorro and Loofy are on there labeled as super novas.
The definition of super novas is pirates who have very
high bounties, and there is I believe I don't even
remember how many, but there's a lot of them on
the island at the same time.
Speaker 1: Yes, number trying to count. We got Bonnie a rogue,
law Kid, Loofy, Drake is sick. One is seven poo
poo eight dud uh hockins or nine?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Is it a rogue?
Speaker 1: I think I said, I'm already okay, so nine, I
only got nine? Who am I forgetting chat? I swear
I said a rogue?
Speaker 3: Oh God, you know, I never remember. It introduces a
lot of killer killers killer killer.
Speaker 2: There we got killer. There's one more. We kind of Zora, right.
Speaker 1: I just didn't say law.
Speaker 3: I thought I don't know zo.
Speaker 1: Zoro council even mates.
Speaker 2: The only reason why I knew all of these characters
is because they're all in the Bonnie deck. Every single
character at some point we're played in my body deck
because it's all super Nova's neck.
Speaker 1: Did you get introduced a lot of characters in this though.
Speaker 2: It's a lot of characters, and from my understanding, a
good chunk of them are still relevant now, Like they
they are very important people.
Speaker 1: While yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: They got big, they got bounties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you see, each one kind of has their own
little you know, quirk Law has this little room thing. Bonnie.
We kind of get a glimpse of her double fruit
of being able to aige yourself up and also aig
yourself up and down and being able to do that
to other people as well.
Speaker 1: Body just prolonged the arc because if Body didn't cut
Charlot's in half.
Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah, so we see kind of that sequence
of the Celestial Dragons. So the Celestial Dragons are basically
very rich, snobby people who are related to the the
founders of like basically the world, the world government, and
they're treated like celebrities. They are treated like royalty essentially,
and they basically get to do whatever they want, and
the Navy will just turn around and pretend nothing happened,
so you kind of see this sequence of this the
I don't even know the is it Charles?
Speaker 1: Is that his name Charlos, Carlos.
Speaker 2: They're all horrible. So he basically has this slave. This
slave has a caller on himself, and he's trying to
like take it off. He's like, I'm tired of this.
I don't want to, you know, do this anymore. And
the caller that he has on explodes, so at any
attempt from them trying to escape or get away, the
celestial dragons will explode the caller and it kills him.
So you get to see how ruthless these people are,
how little care, little empathy, little sympathy they have for others.
So at this point I was kind of like, yeah,
Loofy don't care, like he's he's gonna do something. So
the only people who kind of know to not mess
with these guys is or let me list the people
who don't know. So Zoro doesn't know, Loofy kind of
doesn't know, so.
Speaker 1: They just do it, ye want they just dockles, dudes.
Speaker 3: It is a It is one of my favorite things
about the series too, where there's so much importance and
information gathering, and it even like says that at a
lot of times, like you need to know kind of
who who your rivals are and like what's kind of
going on. Yeah, but they are just so out of
the loop there that Zoro's like, do you need directions?
Like who are you? Like you want to meet up?
Speaker 2: If he's the one.
Speaker 1: Tell you, oh my god.
Speaker 3: A little bit of a side note and stuff. But
my other favorite moment of the series is when Releai
towards later on and stuff is like, we need you guys,
like we need to meet up at like number twelve
or thirteen or wherever the bar is at, and Zero's
like got it for sure, like like you.
Speaker 1: Don't know what you are there, You're not even gonna
get out of the building. Oh my good.
Speaker 3: But anyways, Charlos, he's awful, right, he's over there.
Speaker 2: They're all awful.
Speaker 3: You're my wife, know, and he's like, no, that's my wife.
So he just shoots the husbands a very awful guy.
Speaker 2: Right. So there's a guy who's like dying and there's
the the EMT is trying to take him to the
hospital and they're just like, nah, I'm gonna put him
out of his misery just kills the guy.
Speaker 1: Well, this arc is definitely stuck a little bit more
in the past than some of the other islands. However,
it does show the corruption of the world because these
celestial dragons are directly connected to the world government and
are supported by like the admirals and the like Marine
HQ and the marines nearby. Like this is you get
to see the corruption of the world when you see that,
like that pirate blow up and everyone has to bow
down to Carlos and stuff. He's riding a humanu.
Speaker 2: Ites fucked, it's really really bad. We find out that
if anybody has any attempt assaulting the celestial Dragons, the
Navy will send an admiral and like a whole army
after this person. So that is kind of shows how
how far they are willing to do to protect these people.
Speaker 3: Oh and also why every pirate there just kind of
has this mutual understanding between them like, hey, we don't
do that, because then we're all kind of screwed, right
if yeah, an admiral ship shows up.
Speaker 2: So we have this sequence of Zoro like basically about
the slice this dude in half, and you see Bonnie
basically age herself down to a child and he shoots
at the celestial dragon shoots at Zoro and uh, he
thinks he hit him, but Bonnie kind of got him
out of the way and like threw ketchup on him
and pretended to be a little girl and was like, brother,
I told you not to do that, and basically saved
his life.
Speaker 3: Give that.
Speaker 2: We don't fucking do that, Like, don't mess with these people.
So yeah, Bonnie, Bonnie a real one. So we meet.
So we get back to the straw hats. I think
we actually skipped over this part a little bit. We
meet Shaky, who is the owner of a bar, and
she's like, oh, the one person who can coat your
ship is Raley and he's been gone for six months now,
but you might be able to find him at like
a casino or another bar in town, so you guys
can go take a look. So that's when they go
to the amusement park and stuff and Kamie gets kidnapped. Dude.
Speaker 1: The fact, like Jordan mentioned about the like information gathering,
none of them knew between Brooke, Chopper and Loofy, no
one knew who Ralely was.
Speaker 3: No, Like he's in so many books like he's in
there like books, Like think we read books, Yeah, we
don't read.
Speaker 1: How are we supposed to know this, Paseidon? Do you
now know who really is? Like? Was it properly really revealed?
Speaker 2: I knew who he was because they spent one hundred
dollars on his card.
Speaker 1: They when they showed like dark King Silver Railey, it
was all in Japanese and they didn't have an English
thing for it, but I would I'm pretty sure they
explained who he is at some point, right, Like you.
Speaker 2: Said, yeah, no, they did. They explain who exactly he
is during this arc. So we get this like sequence
of the straw Hats. They're trying to locate where Kane
is and they find out that she is likely it
at the auction house, so she she got sold off
over there to be auctioned to be sold to celestial
dragons and just other people. Because slavery is a is
a thing and it's really fucked up.
Speaker 3: So it's also one of those things that's like not
technically a thing, like it's off the record, but like
there's just so much corruption there that it's, uh, you know,
it just kind of goes under the table, right.
Speaker 1: The Marines are just dogs following orders. You even see
like some of the higher ups having this conversation and
it's just like, yeah, well they hit the celestial Dragons,
so we got to do we gotta It's time for
us to go right. And they returned to the auction
house and they referred to it and then they referred
to it as something else afterwards. So they're in on it.
They know, and they literally have to react and follow
the selecial dragons orders. It's crazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really really sad. It's so upsetting. But basically
we see this, uh we see that they are selling
a giant. We kind of get a glimpse of who
is going to be auctioned off. We see this big giant,
and then right next to this big giant is this
this mysterious old man which they signed out Israeli. He
really is getting sold.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gambling debt, steal steals from the auction house, steals
from the the person who buys him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he had a he had a whole elaborate plan.
Speaker 3: That's a whole routine.
Speaker 2: At this point, the straw Hats kind of gathered together
and they call Duval to come get them and try
to get to this auction house as fast as they
possibly can, so they arrived there. Duval kind of does
his whole little stick Sangie's like, can you shut up
and just drive essentially find out. You know, there's nothing
we can do and no me goes if we can
try to beat them at their own game. And Nami
is willing to spend two hundred million barries if that
means saving came, which I think is such I love Nommy.
You gotta like from super greedy, like, I'm not going
to give you money to I am willing to give
this much money to this basically to save this person
that I barely met. But they're a good person and
they are our friend, and we got to do what we.
Speaker 1: Have to do before we continue. How did you feel
about meeting Hachi?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I from my I guess remembrance of what
happened in our long park. I never really saw Hachi
as kind of like one of those people who are
really really bad, like who's trying to cause a lot
of issues in that town. He's just kind of there,
so he's just following his order. He's just doing what
he's being told to do.
Speaker 3: But you still can't really like blame Nomi for not
forgiving him because he was part of the crew that
like ruined her whole life, killed her mom, et cetera.
Speaker 1: Right, so it's history there, help take control of the island, right, Yeah, yes,
I that whole.
Speaker 2: Like just beginning of Saba Odi, you kind of see
Namy have conflicting feelings of do I forgive him? Do
I want to hold this grudge? He hurt me so much,
he hurt my family so much. But you kind of
see Nami go like, we can move on and I
can forgive because she gets to see how genuine of
a person he is, how much Kami cares about him,
how much he cares about her, And he's basically explaining
like I just want to live the rest of my
life just cooking food for others and just being happy,
like I'm really sorry that you know, I hurt you
so bad, and uh oh god, there's like this one
moment I'll get to that like that had me sobbing.
But basically they go into the auction house and Kamie
gets put up next, and everybody is just enamored. They're
all like, oh, it's a mermaid because they don't get
mermaids very often burmes are quite hard to capture. They're
very very fast.
Speaker 1: The fastest things fast.
Speaker 2: Yeah see, oh sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say. It's like a human, the
bidding starts at like five hundred thousand, right, and then
a mermaid it's like seventy million, Like that's just the
starting bid, right, So it's those things. They don't skip
them very often at all.
Speaker 2: And then.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's sick how it's just h almost
like a trophy, right for for them to have just
in a tank or things of that nature more than
anything else.
Speaker 2: Charlo's he's like, I'm I'm gonna put her in a tank.
And one of the people that's with him is like,
are piranhas in the tank? You want to put her in?
And he's like yeah, but I don't care, you know, yeah,
yeah that's crazy like piranhas?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, how long she lives?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay in the manga, like I just read it like
I thought he already had a mermaid, is what they said.
And then uh, he's like because they named another mermaid
and he's like they can play tag with each other whatever,
aren't they supposed to be like the fastest things in
the in the world. They don't know if the Krana
line was in there. That might in the anime. I
don't know. I think go back and reread that the anime.
Speaker 2: He was put her in a tank with piranhas because
he has pet piranas.
Speaker 3: Oh god, maybe both options are on the table. I
don't know. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: It is bad. So he he is so like en
Averateth and right away Hen's about to bid two hundred
like she's she's ready, and then he goes five hundred
million berries and everyone's.
Speaker 1: Like, there's no point even or trying to help it him. Yeah,
billion berries. So that I'm still on the I'm still
on the page, and Noma should just made up a
number back on my ship.
Speaker 3: But also probably rubb a celestial dragon. The wrong way
to try to like outbit him and stuff and things
of that nature.
Speaker 1: Is the disrespect you try to heltbid me, I have
unlimited funds.
Speaker 2: It's at this point that we see Loofy crash into
the auction house because he didn't he was he was
on that flying fish guy trying to get there and
he just didn't land properly the way right.
Speaker 3: Heading towards one.
Speaker 2: So you see Loofy react to Kami being on like
getting sold essentially, and Hachi is like, Loofy, stop, you
promised me you wouldn't do this, and uh. You see
kind of them kind of tumble down and have a
little bit of an interaction, and then Hachi, who at
this point was hiding that he was a fish man,
kind of uses his other arms because he's like an
octopus guy to grab Loofy. And now everybody is like,
oh my god, it's a fish man. That is disgusting,
and you see everybody kind of screaming and a lot
of commotion is happening, and uh, Charlos is just like disgusting,
I'm gonna take care of this, and he shoots Hachi
with his gun. And this was the moment that like
broke me because you see Kamie, you see Papa Goo,
you see the straw hats kind of just like sit
there shot and Hachi Lufy is going up the hatchie
like are you okay? And Hachi was like, one of
my last wishes was to make it up to Nami
for everything that I have done to her. And you
kind of see him bleed out a little bit and
it's just such an emotional moment. Oh my god, I'm
tearing up.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: He wanted to try to help her, even just like
a little way he.
Speaker 2: Could, right, So yeah, he felt so guilty for what
him and his crew did to Noa me. And you
see Loofy just rage, rage in his eyes and he
punches this celestial dragon in front of everybody. So that's
kind of what everybody. Let me Also, note this kid
in law are in the auction house because they're just
there to see what happens, because kids like I want
to know who this Loofy guy is because Kid is
the only other pirate that has a higher bounty than Loofy,
so it's Loofy and then kid. So kid is here
just to kind of see what goes down. So they
both get up and they're just like, all right, I
guess it's time to handle things to leave. And then
the straw are now kind of like all right, you
know what we're gonna We're gonna have to take care.
Speaker 1: Of this.
Speaker 2: Is still up there.
Speaker 1: Super fun moment. Usa falls from the sky and lands
on the other celestial dragon. Afterwards, he also took one out.
He took one out a legend. He's a legend. It
might even be a god.
Speaker 3: I would say, I feel like that punch too is
one of the things that he probably made better in
the anime, which is like, I'm really glad you watched it,
because he gets a full page spread in the manger, right,
but they gave it the old scribble scrabble treatment for uh,
for that sequence, they made the walk really long, is
like the build.
Speaker 1: Up to it, So walk dodging the bullet, the impact
the punch punched them, walk into black and white. He
punched him back into black, and he left a little
fist mark on his face, completely distorted his face. It
was it was great.
Speaker 2: It was such a moment.
Speaker 1: I will say the nothing that Happened moment and the
Celestial Dragon punch moment are like my top two two
of my favorite moments in one piece. M hmm so far.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're up there. And then uh, I love that
Law and Kid too, Like they were honestly just kind
of chilling at the option, but rather than being seen
as like victims of this whole thing, they're now seen
as accomplices, right, as like the Marines were already nearby
and and Rady to pull up.
Speaker 2: So they were they were ready, They had the place
around it already because they knew that, you know, the
straw hats were coming. But yeah, you see the sequence
where everybody's like starting to go at it, and you
also see what's going on at Navy headquarters. They get
the call and they're like, hey, yeah, Loofy, that man
punches celestial dragon. So they said, an admiral we have
not met yet. His name is Borceline or his real
name is Borcelina. I don't remember his actual adsar. There
we go and they are like, all right, it's time
to go, it's time to pull up.
Speaker 1: But see rale in.
Speaker 2: They yes, he uh he just those those shackles, those
handcuffs just slipped right off of him. He was in
no danger at all. And he also releases I believe
the giant and I think anyone else that was in there, Kamie.
He releases Kami, but.
Speaker 1: Us a technique he does. Do you remember what they
called the technique conquers hockey.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot going on.
Speaker 2: In this like little Bitty, and it was very similar
to what Loofy did to that ox.
Speaker 1: Oh I'm so happy you noticed that. I was going
to bring it up because you didn't mention the ox
I don't think earlier. And I was like, when we
talk about hockey and we talked about Raley and what
he did to people, I'm glad you made that connection.
Speaker 2: By your yes, and it made me remember also the
interaction Shanks had with white Beard. When Shanks got onto
white Beard, white Beard screw just fell to the ground,
So very very soon it's starting to starting to connect.
But yeah, he saves Kmie because that one other female
celestial dragon was about to kill her and really kind
of just does his little hockey thing. So the fight
begins to move outside at this point, before we.
Speaker 3: Moved the fight outside, just like while we're in like
the auction house area, So the female celestial dragon that
you mentioned, you know, she's yes, she shoots the auctioneer, right,
so like as he's as he's making that call, do
you remember, like any I do? Like while we're on
the topic of the.
Speaker 2: House, So the auctioneer calls the owner of the auction house,
who we find out is Do Flamingo, one of these
seven warlords, and I believe, Yeah.
Speaker 3: He's a man with the best fashion in one piece.
Speaker 2: Jash motherfucker.
Speaker 1: And you remember what he says.
Speaker 2: What he says something along the lines of like, yeah,
so I'm not really doing that human auction like trafficking
stuff anymore. Was like last season, So you're on your own, buddies.
Speaker 1: Slavery out of style, man, Slavery is out of style, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the eymore the era.
Speaker 1: Of smiles is on the horizon.
Speaker 2: Yes, whatever that means whatever.
Speaker 3: He's gonna spread happiness and cheer for right.
Speaker 2: He can't, can't.
Speaker 3: He's had enough of his evil ways. This is uh,
that's the only thing that could mean.
Speaker 2: But yeah, So basically he tells the auctioneer, now you're
on your own, buddy, because he's like, I need your help.
You're the owner of this place. Can you please come here?
So the fight starts to move outside, and the Navy
already pulls up. So you have kid Law and Loofy
and they're already at this point Kid in Law, they
weren't gonna get involved, but now they're like, you know what,
let's see what you know, each of us are capable
of having to deal with the Navy. And it was
kind of it kind of becomes like a can who
can defeat more soldiers than the others, so we get
a showcase of both of their abilities. Law I think
is honestly so disgusting. I don't understand how his devil
fruit is allowed. But basically Law is able to make
a little he calls it room, and he can basically
anything in that little space. He can do whatever he wants,
you teleport, he can slice people in houses, mismatch their bodies.
He just stopped, like I can't even describe, like exactly
what he could do. He could just do so much
he is he mans it's disgusting. And then you see Kid.
He has kind of like a he called I think
he calls it repel. Basically he's like a he's like
a magnet.
Speaker 3: He can mantis. I don't think we ever even learned
the name of kids fruit. Like he's just doing stuff
with like metal no magno no me or so, I
don't know magnetos son of a gun.
Speaker 2: But he basically takes he takes everybody's weapons and they're
all like helpless now and he makes like a big
arm and is basically uses their weapons against them and
it's super cool. And you see each of them kind
of all three captains kind of doing their own thing
the straw hats, and there the other crew members from
their crews are kind of getting into it as well.
You see Killer do his thing. You see Beppo. I
like Beppo Alte from their dude everybody his little Marshal
martial arts. I love that scene where Beppo he kind
of like plays dead. I don't know if you guys
remember that scene.
Speaker 3: Is one of the most iconic scenes.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I know, I'm gonna pretend I'm dead. So yeah.
And we also see the sequence of the other supernovas. Ah,
so that's Bonnie or I don't know, Bonnie is there.
It's like Capone Rue and like Basil Hawkins because Kisa
pulls up. Kiser is just a chill dude. So we
find out that his double fruit he is a he
can control light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's crazy anything Before we continue, let me
just jump in here. Fun fact. Oda literally made up
all nine of these other Supernova Supernova characters or ten
or whatever. Actually it's nine because Z and Loofy the
week of their debut because an editor requested that they
make some rivals for Loofy. So like the week prior,
he made up these characters and then apparently he didn't
have any sketches until like the.
Speaker 3: Week of that's crazy considering how.
Speaker 1: Much and how important they are going forward in the series,
Like yeah, you can see.
Speaker 3: Him leaning into the rival thing though and stuff because
literally leaving the auction house kids like don't worry, I'll
clear the way for you guys, and then just the
look on long Lupy's faces, like oh yeah, and then
that's when the uh be measuring contest begins, right, They're all.
Speaker 1: I wanted to bring it up, like you've never prior
to like these this arc. He hadn't planned these characters,
but then that is the stuff that happens in the
future and how like things are woven together and stuff
is crazy. Or maybe he didn't plan to introduce them
all right now, maybe he planned in the future to
introduce the characters, but they're like, yeah, you need some rivals.
He's like, all right, fucking ten of them, nine of
them right now.
Speaker 3: Right, which is pretty shallow introductions as far as what
we get. It's just a bunch of characters stopping up.
We get their powers, their bounties, et cetera. But they're
all pretty distinct. But yeah, we haven't really delved into anybody, right,
So so he gave himself some time there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were all on a different route in the
Grand Line, So that's the guys the justification.
Speaker 2: For like but yes, we do get that information too,
but they all get here at the same time. Yeah,
it's almost like fate.
Speaker 1: Interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, it also seems like Italy takes a while
to get your ship coated and stuff, right, and that's
the only way for pirates to really get through. So
I'm sure most people once they get to the archipelago,
they're there for a little.
Speaker 2: While, right, So yeah, but talk about how most pirates
don't make it to Yeah, a lot of them don't
even make it to like the New World because the
journey there is so dangerous. It's not safe out.
Speaker 1: Don Kreek last came back or three days I remember excellently.
Speaker 3: Yeah, granted he acidentally sailed in the Mehawk, so that's
not fair. That's a.
Speaker 1: I think the line the Grand Lines with r G
it really is. And you're talking about his light light
no MEI.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a light guy. He controls light and
he's very very hard to beat. So we get a
showcase of also the other super Nova's powers. We see
a poo. He makes music just out of his body.
It's kind of uncomfortable, but uh, he's kind of a
silly dude. You see Basil Hawkins, He's very much like
a he's a magician. He's a lot of voodoo dolls,
tarot cards, stuff like that. Your rouge is kind of
like the whole He can bulk himself up to be
super strong. Copone. I thought Copones was really funny. He
has like a crew who is like minuscule, and they
get bigger and like shoot out of his body and
it's super silly. You see them trying to fight Keisa
Do and Kisa Do there is just like he's not
even fighting. He's just chilling and just throwing stuff around.
Very chill. Dude doesn't go well and we see another
warlord pull up and uh, it's Coolba from thriller bar
as well. Uh, and you can see the sequence were
for some reason, Kuma is in like four different places
I don't even know, multiple places at the same time.
Find out that they're not they're they're all like different
versions of Kuma. They're like clones almost, and Cuma's kind
of fighting. You know, each character in these different locations.
So then, oh, I kind of I don't remember when
this moment happened, Yes, positivist does.
Speaker 3: There we go, so fights ensue, but like as those
fights are happening, the straw hats make their way back
to uh, to the bar, right the bar that says
they're going to rip you off in the name or
what have you.
Speaker 2: And I also want to note this one moment, if
you guys, uh, go for it. I want to hear,
because I actually really love this moment. It's such a
small moment, but I think this attests to Law's character.
So you see Law go back into the auction house
and he freeze this one slave who was a pirate
captain before, and he offers this guy, He's like, do
you want to join my crew in the way of
just saving him. So I think in that moment, I
was like, I think Law is a good person, Like
I think he's a good character, and I'm really looking
forward to seeing him more because I think he has
such a powerful devil fruit.
Speaker 1: And you know, I love that you already love that.
Speaker 2: He's such a cool guy. And it really does not
help that he's voiced by Matt Mercery for me. It's like, yes,
there we go.
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteed favorite him again in five hundred chapters, right,
And these next couple of arts are just chef's kiss.
Speaker 2: I heard I'm coming up on I actually am almost
done with Amazon movie.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, run it back again next week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we can run it back again next week. Because
I finished the episode last night where it broke my heart.
I did not expect this art to also make me
really really sad and upset. But we'll get to that
next week. But we go back to Shocky's bar, and
that's when Rayley reveals, Yeah, I was the the Dark
King or recently the right hand man of gold d Roger,
and you see kind of everybody go, oh my god,
they have so many questions for him.
Speaker 3: Hold on, that's not how everybody reacted. Okay, we're talking
about little moments in this arc. One of the best
ones is that reveal because so many people are shocked.
And then you know, Brooke, he's like, oh, yeah, I
think there was a rookie named gold Gold He was
a rookie of that name. He's been around the block. Yeah,
I love that moment so much.
Speaker 2: Sorry, No, you're fine, You're fine. We're just having a
good time. But we we learn actually so much about
Goldie Roger in this little I guess episode. You find
out that he was actually a nobody for a long time,
like he was not he nobody badn't an eye at him,
But he ended up being I believe, the only pirate
in his crew to make it all the way through
the grand line. That's where he kind of earned his
pirate king title. But you find out.
Speaker 1: Make it through all the way through the groundline.
Speaker 2: Yes, very dangerous, dangerous journey. You find out really tells everybody.
The Marines actually never captured him. He turned himself into
So it's not that the Marines captured. They only lie
to make themselves look better, to make themselves really like, look,
we were able to capture this guy, so don't be
don't try so basically making an example of him. But
the only reason, oh go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, the media coverage of it,
they're gonna be like, yeah, we caught him, this is uh,
of course we did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at us.
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, So exactly they got a fire lit up
under his butt whenever he found out he had a terminal.
Speaker 2: Illness, right yes, so that's when he was Uh, we
find out that he basically started letting his crew go
one by one to kind of move on with their lives,
and he was going to turn himself in. We also
find out that Shanks and Buggy were on his crew
when they were children.
Speaker 1: Is this is what we find out? Oh my god?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it reveals that, and then we also learned
about Crocus right more, dude. So there's a lot dropped
in this.
Speaker 2: Arc because really recognizes the straw hat on Lufy's head
and was like Shanks straw.
Speaker 1: Hat really even says to Lufy like it suits him,
it suits a fearless man like him in the slavery House.
Speaker 2: Yes, but basically we kind of get a little bit
of that history. How the government's intention of publicly executing
Goldie Roger was to basically try to end the pirate
era and instead it kind of backfired. And when he's like,
you guys are gonna have to look for my treasure.
Speaker 3: My treasure.
Speaker 1: I left everything I gathered together in one place, now
you just have to find it.
Speaker 2: Then it did backfire. Because of this, the Pirate era
is just out of control at this point. There's so
many pirates trying to find it, trying to get through
the ground line. Not all of them succeed, but y'all
you see nico Ra, she is just shocked. She kind
of gets up and asks Raley, do you know what
happened during the Void century? Because you know, we find
out from Anny's lobby that you know, she's part of
the She's the only survivor off of Ohara, which are
the people archaeologists who are researching on what happened, and
really goes, I do know what happened. I do know
what happened, but me telling you isn't going to change anything.
And she but he's like, do you want me to
tell you? And she you could see her kind of
almost tempted to ask him to like give her all
the information because you don't, Robin, she loves information, she
loves history. And she goes, no, thank you, and she
kind of wants to find it on her own. And
then Usop kind of goes in as well, I forgot
what he's asked.
Speaker 1: Actually, I feel like it's very where's the one piecee?
Speaker 2: Where's the one piece?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: And you see Loofy kind of getting mad. Dare how
dare you ask that don't don't ask him that.
Speaker 1: He said one more they quit. Yeah, I don't even
want to know exists.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he wants to. Loofy's like, I want to be
able to fight it myself. I don't want anybody telling
me where it is, and is like profusely apologizing. But
this is where I think Raley is just like these
are these are good people. They these people are gonna
be very important.
Speaker 3: You haven't even right, Jordan, No, no, I got past Wana.
I was like mid egghead last night.
Speaker 1: Last I read dude this scene in where Raley says
he knows stuf about the void century me and animec
and I've had so many arguments about it after but
I will find out why arguing in the future.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's so many little things here. I think one
of the things that I love about Lufy, and I
think really gave Rele a good impression, is you know,
whenever he talks about being the Pirate King, says like,
I'm not going to the New World to conquer anything, right,
Like the person that's freest is like, is going to
be the pirate king? Right, So like he's a searching
for freedom and I think that gave them a pretty
good impression of him as well.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: I mean they already liked him a shaky yeah, or
Shaki was already a big fan. What was your first
impression of her? Poseidon guilt? Damn, Kil's crazy.
Speaker 2: She is not sixty years old. I refuse to believe
she as old as as she is because she does
not look like that. She does, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: And it was I actually didn't remember myself that when
they first walk into that bar, she's like beating up
a bunch of random guys and like, yeah, they don't
owe me, want you or anything.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, So then oh go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say one thing that I do
want to at least mention and stuff I might have
mentioned earlier. I don't know. But the uh, the guy
that the first guy they met, you know, inside lagoon
when they first went to the Grand Line. I think
his name is Crocus. He was also Rogers ship, right.
Speaker 2: So he was there for the last three years, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Info draw and dumps like this just adds so
much context to meetings like that, because they met a
member of the Pirate King's crew. Uh, and you know,
the interaction is like, don't you know, don't do that
otherwise one of us is gonna die. And so she's like,
oh yeah, and who would that be. He's like me
of course, like like he's so innocent, like he's like
he's weak. But yeah, they met somebody.
Speaker 1: He was like the doctor, right, yeah, yeah, fair enough. Yeah,
he joined to help take care of actually, never mind,
that's the spoiler, but he rogers, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh they went off. He went off whenever he
did his own thing and stuff. He was looking for
Brooks' career was what it was, what he said, probably
for Laboon's sake, prior to going back to Laboon. So
all that's dropping this art.
Speaker 1: Another thing. When Shaky first met Loofy, she asks about
and his lobby, like is it true you like waged
war against the world government blah blah blah. He's like, oh,
it's the borging story. I don't want to last living
in the present, the boring story.
Speaker 3: Crazy anyway, Sorry about three off track, therapist, No.
Speaker 2: You're you're perfectly fine. Anybody.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I know it's good. I'm going all over
the black. At this point, we know who really is now,
but prior when we were first introduced to Shaky and Rayley.
We didn't we didn't actually know correct. So when says
he was just he's a hundred times stronger than you
is crazy. Like Shocky said, he's yeah, like the ship
Coulder one hundred times stronger you to Loofy, I'm like,
what the hell? I remember that in my mind when
I first read it.
Speaker 3: And I mean we've seen some gaps and up to
this point, anytime, like admirals in them show up like
al Kiji kind of let him off the hook a
couple of times, right, and then uh, in this arc,
if you want to start talking about what's happening outside
that bar, Kiseru is no like laughing joke either, Right,
He's absolutely uh many rookies left and right, and it
doesn't matter. It's not even close.
Speaker 2: He's like not even tired at all.
Speaker 1: He's just vibing one hundred times stronger. And it's actually accurate.
Both with Kiseru and Raley. I think it's like they
are one hundred times wronger than Lufi and the other
Supernova's currently.
Speaker 2: Oh you know what, that's right. That was something I
forgot to know. One of the supernova's Drake was actually
an ex admiral used to be part of it. Yeah, extu, Yeah,
he used to be part of the navy. And uh,
I think there was like a line that was said,
you want your old job back, and then he was
just like, no, I don't want my old job back.
Speaker 3: Do you kind of withdraw my furrow? One k But
that's that's about it.
Speaker 2: He's like na. So I thought that was very interesting
to see such a high ranking pirate who used to
be part of the Marines. But anyways, uh fights also
starts breaking out outside of the bar because the little
Kuma I don't even know, that's not the real Kuma.
One of the pacifistic Kumas is out there, so they
start fighting. Sanji and Zoro are fighting, and Zoro at
this point is still not recovered from thriller Bark, which
is kind of strange because we were told that nothing happened,
but you know something something did happen, so he he
is not at his top, you know, notch for fighting here.
So you see Sanji kind of kind of like, what's
going on, Oh my god, he still hasn't recovered, and
then real Kuma pulls up.
Speaker 3: Zoro is not the type of pirate you'd want to
have on your fantasy sports roster. Like he is all
the time, all these fights. Yeah, like he's he plays
through it sometimes, but yeah, he's always injured.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. So we see also Raley getting into it
as well with kisa Ru. Now he is now fighting
Kizaru and he is Kizerou starting to struggle now, but
basically they start to kind of go down one by one,
and Loofy makes the call to be like, we cannot
defeat these guys. You guys need to start running and
we will meet up at some point, Like, you guys
need to just start running save your lives. So you see,
I believe it's not me and Frankie go in one direction,
Chopper and Robin go in another direction. Like everybody is
now running for their lives. Yeah, but the problem that's
happening is that, you know, they're starting to fight, like
the Marines start fighting the straw hats, and you know,
because they love each other and care about each other
so much, they all kind of get distracted with trying
to save one another, and one by one, Kuma kind
of uses his little pop heads fuck and starts basically
blipping them Fanoco Zoro, right, and then goes first. I
think Sonji comes next, right.
Speaker 3: I think there was I'm trying to remember the exact order.
I think it was like Brook after that or or
something to that effect. But yeah, Sonji was like fighting
it for a while, like trying to save the other
He was one of the ones that kept trying to
get in the way to protect people. And then yeah,
I end up going somewhere in the middle. Might Yes,
I think Frankie tried to do a koop dea burst.
Chopper goes Monster Forum, right, He's trying to like they're
trying to fight to let the others get away, and
but one by one, like you said, this was the
the annihilation of the straw Hat crew.
Speaker 2: You see also Chopper eating like three rumble balls, which
is very at this point we know is very dangerous
because he did it once at Any's Lobby to save
his friends. Like the straw the straw Hats are doing
everything they can to save each other. But I think,
you know, this is the first time we kind of
see the defeat of the straw Hats, and you see.
Speaker 1: The bubble.
Speaker 2: Yeah, God, so good, Oh God. And then there comes
a moment in the middle of all of this that
really is gonna try to intervene. Kuma comes up to
him and goes, I need you to trust me, and
Rayley decides to no longer intervene, and you see one
by one, you see Loufy just in shambles. Now he's
what he to his eyes right now, he thinks that
they're all just dead, like one by one they are
just getting killed off. From the last person to go
before Loufy is Robin and you see her a little
bubble pop and he's like on the ground crying, like
saying he failed. And it was such an emotional moment
because you also get this montage of each of the
straw hats up into this point, like one of their
most pivotal moments. You see NAMMY's kind of, you know,
on the ground with a straw hat scene. You see
the I want to Live scene. You see the one
where Chopper is like, I'm gonna stay here and Lufy's like, no,
shut up, You're coming with me, you know, Zoro being
like I'm not gonna get defeated again, like all these
all these pivotal moments, right and Bam Loofy is also gone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could just tell he feels so powerless in
this moment too. Is he's like trying to He's trying
to fight it and stuff, but like NAMMY's outstretched hand
is is she like reaches for him, Robin calling his
name as she disappears. Right, He's just he's unable to
do anything about it, right, and you know, his whole
crew that counted on him as the captain and stuff
just fell apart right before his eyes before he Yeah,
that was just kind of broken.
Speaker 1: Right on the bright side. Final we meant best girl
in the next arc.
Speaker 2: So we'll talk about that next week because I.
Speaker 1: Have already started watching.
Speaker 2: Imatch and I'm we get miss Boa handn't cock Oh
boy that it's such a fun I actually really we'll
talk about it.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about it next week.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it. I'm about to do part too.
Speaker 1: It's allowed to say something positive to the negative.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, we are. I'm really looking forward to Marine
Ford actually, like I I oh god, but this arc.
We we'll talk about that next week.
Speaker 3: I guess there is a lot set up here in
this arc as far as it's reading for a paper
right at one point, and I mean it announces that
paces to be executed, right, So who wasn't reading that paper?
Speaker 1: I'm trying to recall someone or something.
Speaker 3: It wasn't one of the straw hats. They don't read
the papers.
Speaker 2: I think it was coone copone phone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he was just actually gathering info, just things
of that nature. So yeah, yeah, a lot of things
being set up. Heres what an emotional?
Speaker 2: What emotion?
Speaker 1: How many?
Speaker 2: Because we were it was like twenty definitely around twenty.
Speaker 3: What's crazy is it's only like twenty I think it
was like twenty four chapters of the manga. Yeah, so
twenty four chapters or twenty one episodes. But like manga,
it flies by, like there's so much packed into every
single chapter like it is. That's why I felt like
such a highlight of the series. I would honestly kind
of glued when I tried to reread it.
Speaker 2: So it was, you know, it's definitely like you guys
mentioned earlier, not the same formula, because you kind of
see the same formula with everything. Straw hass arrive on island,
bad Guy, they kind of they kind of do their thing.
Bad guy is there, they defeat bad Guy, they move on,
But in this case, bad Guys kept showing up too
many bad guys.
Speaker 1: It's either rescue straw Hat or rescue future straw Hat
or save town from bad guy someone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still got a lot of the story beats
there as far as everybody separated at the start, chaos
of them doing their own thing, and then uh yeah,
you know it was the journey to rescue Kami, right,
it kind of like speed ran all that, but it's
it's just once you got that climax of the big
punch and stuff, everything goes to craft so fast after that.
Speaker 2: It does with people showing up, and I think it
also just goes to show like how far these marines
are willing to go to protect these horrible, horrible, horrible people.
Like it just I was crying throughout this art.
Speaker 1: Live in society, we.
Speaker 2: You know, this is this is human trafficking is a
real thing, and it's you know, One Piece doesn't shy
away from such dark themes, which is what I actually
really enjoy about this anime that you know, Oda has
no problem you know, kind of basically giving commentary to
real life issues that are happening in our world like this. Yes,
One Piece is a fantasy world, but there's very horrible
things happening, and a lot of corruption, and we get.
Speaker 3: The it kind of hides it from us at the
start of the arc with Augie not trying to worry anybody.
He doesn't want them to know that he's like kind
of risking, playing very risky by even going on the island, right,
But it tackles a lot of themes on like a
discrimination that the fishmen and stuff facing this arc as well,
and sure that hit you pretty hard, being like the
goddess of the sea and whatnot, right, like sea mermaids
and fishmen in particular, just kind of how they're treated.
Speaker 1: To animal when they see hot Sheet and realize he's
a fishman and they're all like, ooh, gross, he's gonna
give us a disease. What's it call it? He's got
the brain of a fish. He isn't like like it
was just like the level of discrimination immediately upon seeing him.
It's just heartbreaking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's there's a lot of commentary to on, like
characters like Kid because even if you you know, no
matter how quickly Oda rod him and stuff they wrote,
Kid is a character that's like, up to this point
in the grand line has been like burning down village,
a lot of innocent people died from kid, right, Like
it painted him as a pretty bad guy. But then
even him, like looking at the dragons, he's like, they
make me look like a like a pretty peaceful guy
by comparison, like and like those are the true like monsters.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, with all that darkness and all that corruption.
He's like, you want you wonder why people have become pirates?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Really good? So uh yeah, a lot a lot
there as far as uh how much was packed into
this arcs.
Speaker 2: It's so horrible because you know, these people who live
in the one piece world, they look to the Marines
and the government as like the people who are going
to protect us there, they're the good guys, when in reality,
you know, they're doing much much worse, you know, things
than the pirates are doing. You know, I mean not
saying that all the pirates are innocent, but I mean
you see the people of Saba Odi, they are scared.
They're scared of the Marines, They're scared of the celestial dragons.
So I have thoughts.
Speaker 1: Shades are gray everywhere. Right, There's a lot of marines
that are doing good, but those same marines that are
doing good are still working for a system that like
supports all this corruption and darkness in the background because
they're owned, like the Marines are owned by the world
government and these celestial dragons that like support these certain notions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well there's a lot. There's also a lot of
corruption on the pirates side, of course, I don't even
say corruption. There's a lot of evil, but it's just
less centralized, right whereas.
Speaker 1: Uh, straw hats but dude kid has killed many in
a sense.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's decentralized because all these
pirates are kind of just doing off, doing their own thing,
whereas with the government it is here in this arc,
I think it was twenty kings or something like that
came together to bring about a world government. And then, uh,
you know, whenever you have a centralized system like that,
it allows corruption to uh potentially manifest at like the
highest levels of that hierarchy. Right. So yeah, we just
kind of see the results of that.
Speaker 2: We just get like a glimpse. I feel like that
we just got a glimpse of what you know is happening.
And I actually failed to mention also, I believe there
was a scene where Garp gets word as well as
to what's going on, because he's a vice admiral, right,
he's like right under admiral, And I think there's a
scene where he's like, do not tell anybody what is
going on to one of his you know, marines, because
he finds out Loofy's doing his yeah thing against the
celestial dragons.
Speaker 3: So he also has another that, yeah, he has a
good line in this arc as far as uh, you know,
releas one his thing. He sold himself into slavery, and
they know that, they know that he's there. Oh yeah,
I don't want they don't want to pick a fight
with him at this moment.
Speaker 2: Because yeah, they're scared on him.
Speaker 3: They said, we don't want to be fighting two legends
at once, right, they're already it mentions that they're already
putting like a lot of personnel towards something else, right,
So it's like setting stuff up in that regard as well.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and you could probably guess who they're referring to, Poseidon,
but Garb was not referring to Loofy at that time.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: He was saying, don't don't go like they This is
when they found out Rayley was in the auction house
and like, don't go there because he could kill hundreds
of you guys. Like really will kill hundreds of you guys,
and we need all the manpower we could get. We
don't want to fight two legends at once.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that and they guess I think it. I
think it says no. I mean, I'm not gonna say it.
I guess if you didn't catch on, but.
Speaker 2: It does say it at this because I assume that
second Lene.
Speaker 3: I think Doffy says it, or do Flamingo says it.
Speaker 1: Del Flamingo. It's it's like briefly sprinkled in there. You'd
have to connect garb line Garb's line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my goodness, I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: I think it's an imply it's not it's not directly
said by DOPHI Trodan, but that is you could go
back and and read it if you want to rewatch it.
Speaker 3: They might have just said it in the manga then
I know, I know he says it, but yeah, they
might not have been as explicit there.
Speaker 1: So okay, although we do need to wrap it up,
I do need to go the in a crush, you know.
I loved it. This was a great episode. The arc
ends in a crushing defeat, much like the other ones, yes,
a much unlike the unlike the.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, my bad, my bad, miss books.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Any final thoughts, guys, what honestly such a devastating arc.
I think that's maybe the word I'm gonna use is
just devastating, stating.
Speaker 3: I try to focus more on the amusement park than
anything else.
Speaker 2: If I don't see it, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3: Thirty flavors of ice cream exactly.
Speaker 1: And on that note, check out Poseidon Mythos on Twitch
on YouTube. Check out the anime Dude on twitch on YouTube.
Hope you guys enjoyed Shint Pock you and I'll see
you all next time.
Speaker 3: Later, everybody,